satisfactory

[delicate hinge]

Especially if you have auto save turned on

[weary condor]

im not asking for help yall I know how to save scum 😭 I was just whining

good lord

[delicate hinge]

Lmfaoooo

[sterile blade]

"I just wanna talk, don't talk back to me"?

[weary condor]

:|

[delicate hinge]

It's ok to bitch about it, i've lost several hours of gameplay one time because i had to go back too 😭

[weary condor]

I said something that objectively before my eyes happened, then 5 people denied it, then tried to give me the solution I'd alr done before I came here to mention it 😭 like I appreciate the effort to help people but cmon now

[delicate hinge]

i'm almost 180h in on the current save and went from starter base to my actual base, but i haven't even started building on the proper copper base yet, feels annoying 😄

[tribal shell]

This is lowkey why I use tonetags

[meager fern]

which 5 people 🤔

[delicate hinge]

Blow some aliens off the cliff, it might blow off some steam 😄

[feral vector]

I still think you already took the drive out lol

[delicate hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/cmurder-gif-18877714

lol, why didn't my gif load in :c

[abstract heron]

perms or something

[delicate hinge]

dangit

oh well, whatevs

[meager fern]

if you dont have permissions to upload images, there is a 99.neinnein percent chance you cant post gifs. sadge

[rigid wedge]

idk what i did here but at least it works #screenshots message

is there a trick to connect them when the top and bottom are out of range from each other?

[meager fern]

i think at some point, maybe even now, you could connect things with conveyor floor holes no matter how far apart they were

[rigid wedge]

you can vertically

its just very annoying if they are out of range of the build gun

[feral vector]

just make a ladder?

[rigid wedge]

i did

somehow the belt ended up inside the pillar

[feral vector]

and yeah if you have a floor hole lined up perfectly it will snap infinite length

[feral vector]

yeah fair enough sorry lol. looks like something weird happened

[rigid wedge]

even out of range from the build gun without ladder?

[feral vector]

no you need to start the build at one end then get close enough for it to snap to the other end, but the total distance doesn't matter it will make a super long conveyor

[feral vector]

did you rotate the exit of the lift towards the pillar somehow maybe?

[rigid wedge]

idk im just happy it snapped

[feral vector]

yeah it works that's good news

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots message

[wraith widget]

satisfactories alien planet proves that the earth it flat

don't tell anybody, but earth is a donut

[smoky forge]

[wraith widget]

pfff that thing can only take out 1 tree

[smoky forge]

[wraith widget]

oh shit

[smoky forge]

[smoky forge]

no technicaly infinite trees in a limited radius

[wraith widget]

i never wanted nukes so bad, i wanted to destoy all trees in my playthrough

foliage is trying to stop me

[smoky forge]

i played a mod with upgradable weapons

and leme tell you that it is a good thing that i didnt try out the nuke witht hat mod

the nobelisk itselfe was already 3x the range of a normal nuke

i cleared forests with 3 big booms and a whole big stutter in my game

[wraith widget]

i normally like bush and foliage, but when it comes to industrialization , i get it

remove all plants and trees, defy your god

[smoky forge]

no god

(my oppinion ofc)

[wraith widget]

i still have a personal one but we dont talk that much

[smoky forge]

[wraith widget]

ADA is god

ada wong

[fringe shadow]

after finishing my coal power i just saw after 10hrs+ that i didnt set up 1 single pipe and thats why i had 10 coal power plants or smthing not running.. xd

[faint willow]

these random frame drops are getting a bit upsetting

[wraith widget]

so no pipe?

[harsh cape]

my pipes just arent filling with nitrogen i feel like im losing my mind

[fringe shadow]

i just forgot 1 pipe from all water extractors into the coal machines

[fringe shadow]

can u send a screenshot

[harsh cape]

i think i might understand the issue the pipe just couldnt supply enough gas to the manifold so it was constantly starved

[fringe shadow]

after every 1h i have to rejoin my world because its lagging, does it happen to you also?

[harsh cape]

uhh i havent noticed anything but my pc also likes to just explode every so often so the game usually isnt open long enough for that to happen

[fringe shadow]

xd

[harsh cape]

are you on experimental

[regal tiger]

I'm working on blueprints for railroads, and am looking for a need way to connect the top of the slope with a flat section, without a gap (the foundations are flanked by half sunk conrete pillars and that creates the gap). If I (half) nudge another piece up it sticks up through the flat portion of pillar, which looks worse to me. Any suggestions for how to do this?

[bleak mica]

I downloaded a blueprint, how do they put elements at such an angle, any idea?
#screenshots message

[tall lantern]

probably beams

[eager oar]

Freeform beams

[wispy sun]

if i have a coal power system that consists of 8 coal gens that run from 3 water extractors and 2 miners that get them 120 coal per min, does that min i can just double that power system by placing another 8 gens, 3 more extractors and overclocking the 2 miners to 200%?

[regal tiger]

Another thing I have spotted is that on top of the pillars sits a beam, and on top of that are railings. I got the railings to slope by initially placing the railing on the slop foundation and then nudging vertically and horizontally until on the beam. but the left and right are slightly misaligned, and I have no idea how. The kicker is that the one that i cannot reproduce by nudging as i thought I did originally is the one that looks best when connecting to the top and bottom of a slope, so is the one I actually wnat to use!

[regal tiger]

Yes

[faint willow]

Triple-clock on a level 1 miner on a normal iron node isn't too much, is it?

150 opm

[wispy sun]

alright thanks just wanted to make sure

[dense violet]

!wikisearch miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=miner

[dense violet]

all the info on clock mk and purity is on there

[bleak mica]

what's that?

[dense violet]

use beams in freeform mode to get angles

[regal tiger]

Its a build mode you can get using the R key

[faint willow]

saw this, was moreso asking if the clocking threshold is too much early on, or if i need to go for the "overkill is underrated" mentality and max it out early for the eventuality of using more

[dense violet]

I have no idea what you mean.
in general with pure nodes you're limited by your belt speed for most of the tutorial

clock miners to output whatever it is you need

[bleak mica]

beams = pillars? I only have default and zoop both inside and outside blueprint builder

[wispy sun]

also if i wanted to add another 8 coal gens totaling up to 24 ill have to overclock my miners to 300% and add 3 more extractors right?

[dense violet]

beams are not pillars

they are beams

[dense violet]

!wikisearch beam

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=beam

[dense violet]

beams, and a pillar https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1424031026069639210/image.png?ex=69d9a8fd&is=69d8577d&hm=b4f48503846df81272d44869c2c36e85079838924a3ac8feaddf9c1902fcd73d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=346&height=350

[regal tiger]

You cant overclock beyond 250%, so you will need more miners

[wispy sun]

right, thanks

[dense violet]

find a spot with multiple coal nodes right next to water, there's always at least 1 near every start zone

[bleak mica]

cool, unlocked them

[wispy sun]

i only have 2 normal nodes and the other 2 are impure which im using to make steel and the other coal nodes that i have are in a forest biome, 3 are there and they are pure

[dense violet]

where did you start?

[wispy sun]

rocky desert

[dense violet]

right, far east at the edges of the area are 2 spots perfect for coal power, use your nearby coal for steel, distant coal for power

it's very easy to import power

more annoying to belt things

[wispy sun]

hold on ill send a screenshot

thats how far it is

i mean i think i can still manage that

[dense violet]

I mean maybe? but having a very solid coal power station can get you to tier 7 easily if you burn like 4 full nodes

[dense violet]

yeah the nodes on the right of that image

[wispy sun]

uh huh

got it

ill try to get them to the gens then, thanks

but im just expanding my power now so that i can run my modular frame factory

[dense violet]

just burn the coal on the water there 🙂 very easy

[dense violet]

my coal set up there in my last save https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1490900154553995385/image.png?ex=69d9b0f8&is=69d85f78&hm=a01f69ff9cf29f0237ab1f59635a3c55d752fbf9fa9c8e34ca2dab2d43145b31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1412&height=767

[wispy sun]

also if i were to connect 4 miners and their combined production is 480 coal per minute and i want to place down 32 gens how many water pipes will i need to divide the water extractors to

i just got very confused when i tried to calculate that

[bleak mica]

each non overclocked gen takes 45 m3 a minute

and 15 coal

[fiery pewter]

Miner slooping when

[tall plover]

refinery is the only way unfortunatly

[bleak mica]

real

[reef basin]

would be like worst sloop usage

[dense violet]

just make 4 groups of 8

don't connect them all

[empty bridge]

hi all. Need this Caterium stuff to research in the mam. found a location but it's unreachable. Can I build something to connect mainland to this rock?

[tall lantern]

foundations?

[empty bridge]

haven't tried yet but is that the correct thing?

[tall lantern]

it's one of the simpler options

[empty bridge]

ok. I'll give that a go. Thanks very much!

[blazing parcel]

I used so many 4m ramps to get places in the early game, then I bought the ladder on the store and that helps too. I still use it now and I'm in Phase 4

[fiery pewter]

Let's sloop plutonium then

[tall plover]

I always sloop my 1% miners so i get low energy usage AND more output

i know, im genius

[fiery pewter]

But miner slooping isn't possible tho

Afaik

[fiery pewter]

Also just running on the 3 per minute

[fiery pewter]

If it's up high, then use storage bins, they can stack and have ladders

[coarse shadow]

Do Signals not work if they are too close together?

[bleak mica]

Man I just added 1 junction to a water pipe and then had to spend 1 hour debugging the flow

in the end i had to dismantle and place same fking pipes in the same places (left junctions and supports as they were before)

[normal orbit]

if tracks are too close the signals think both tracks are one

due to trains would collide passing each other

[tall plover]

you didnt realize it was a joke when i said 1% miner?

[tall lantern]

people do dumb stuff all the time, hard to tell

[coarse shadow]

i have built the exact same train station like 100-200m away from the other one with same signals and they do not work anymore on the second one

[tall lantern]

depending on what exactly the issue is, either it's not as exact a copy as you thought, or it's too exact and the setup doesn't work if duplicated like that?
probably the former

[normal orbit]

exakt duplicates arent always exakt i've come to notice a lot when people say they've done it :p

theres also the track bug which allows for 180 degree turns on a straight section which is a reason you get the "signal loops into itself"

[bleak mica]

man hoverpack makes building so incredibly chill

i can see now how ppl never finish phases

[coarse shadow]

i built it now again and the first path and block signal on the station (entrance and exit) worked fine but after i placed the second path signal the first one shows "loops into itself"

[sterile blade]

You'll likely keep having one signal showing that, until you make a full loop of rails+signals on that railway (or branch of railway)

[coarse shadow]

how many signals and what type of signal do i need to place on the railway?

[sterile blade]

Is that the only reason why it might pop up?
No other bug-related reasons?

[sterile blade]

The kind doesn't matter (just affects how efficiently or not trains travel), but I reckon you should have at least one signal between every intersection

[normal orbit]

afaik its the reason it shows up, cuz the tracks allow for a 180 degree turn into iself

[sterile blade]

I just find it a bit weird as it has been popping up a lot, but I haven't noticed an increase in "lol, look at this train doing 180s" kind of posts (maybe I just missed them)

(I also haven't checked on the QA site though 😅)

[normal orbit]

mainly cause when you signal a track which allows that you get the error so trains dont auto drive on it

[sterile blade]

Good point

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message if you dont have signals you get this bs

[coarse shadow]

its not just one showing it, it's almost every signal showing it on the train station

[normal orbit]

in an intersection where one piece does that, it will error out on whole intersections signals

you can kinda see it if you go into signal mode and see which piece doesnt have a diffrent color to the intersection

you can try delete and rebuild it

or move signals 1,5 foundations from the splits/merges

[muted tangle]

Hello, i have a question. I have a big problem when i want join my friend, i have a infinite loading and i can't join

[tribal shell]

Do you guys are ever like "hey I wanna start playing" (in my case a new save) but then existential dysfunction hits and instead you watch youtube all day?

If so, how do you get out of that

[willow hare]

setting goals

[tall lantern]

waiting for the motivation to return briefly, do a small part til the dysfunction takes over again, take a few months to finish the project

not a good solution, but it's how my stuff tends to go lol

[brittle dune]

Factorio has like bots that changes the ease of gameplay but satisfactory has like 2 dozen (or more) things which it may hurt to operate without

Basically every phase has like 3+ things like that

[clever yarrow]

anyone about Starrupture so far? it is in sale rn

[hushed frigate]

ough

trying to produce turbo motors is driving me mentally insane

what do you mean i need almost every single raw material in the game

[crude canyon]

What do you mean almost

But yeah, turbo motors are a pain

[hushed frigate]

the only raw materials i can think of that arent used in the process are uranium and caterium

[ornate saffron]

sulfur

[hushed frigate]

true

[ornate saffron]

but ya, 4 is really complex. If you have a handle on fluids phase 5 is easier

[late pumice]

Hey guys I’m looking for some cake help I suppose

My cake would be themed after satisfactory. I am currently thinking of three options of a cake

[real shale]

Hello

[atomic venture]

lizard doggo flavored cake

[crude canyon]

Shrimp flavour

[real shale]

Depends on what kind of difficulty you want

[crude canyon]

With some spaghetti

[late pumice]

1. Pioneer helmet
2. FICSIT Coffee cup
3. Factory Cart with a Lizard Doggo driving it and a nuclear waste container somewhere

[real shale]

FICSIT coffee cup coffee flavored cake :P

[crude canyon]

Multiple layered cake with different parts on each layer

[tall lantern]

mercer sphere with a lil speaker that just randomly goes "consume"

[hushed frigate]

#screenshots message
struggling to decide which i should accept and which i should leave to decrease the pool size

[ornate saffron]

there is more harddrives in the game then you can use

[tall lantern]

if you'd use one, take it. if not, either leave it or flip a coin

if you're seeking a particular recipe then leaving others in the pool makes sense, but if not then it doesn't really matter - some say it's better to just pick something immediately, others that you may as well leave them until you do hit a point where you decide one of the two would be useful

[elfin smelt]

im the later

[fiery pewter]

I have 2 braincells fighting for third place

[fiery pewter]

Hey. Rude.

But true

[elfin smelt]

I mean, what good does unlocking s recipe that you probably wont use for dozens of hours instead of just leaving it there to decrease the pool

[fiery pewter]

Not much

Better to leave in the Pool

But sometimes you should get it when you see it

[daring oriole]

hellllooo

[ornate saffron]

Personally I get every possible recipe before changes phases

[daring oriole]

i need help my factory isnt produting as fast as i want it too

[next ivy]

then produce more

the factory only does what youre making it do

[daring oriole]

no like its not making plates fast enough to make reinforced plates

[next ivy]

then make more plates

have you done the math ?

[tall lantern]

if it's running at 100% and not making as much as you want, add more
if it's not at 100%, check your math, then check if things are backing up or starving

if you're not doing math, then yeah it probably won't be running optimally

[daring oriole]

i dont no maths and my things running at max capacity rn

know*

i got kicked out of school

[next ivy]

i do not know if this is a joke or not, and thats sad

either way, addition should be possible

[daring oriole]

i got kicked out cuz i had a motorbike accident and it broke my leg

[ornate saffron]

Never to late to learn. The internet is full of wonderful information

[next ivy]

you should sue the school

[daring oriole]

tried i failed and lost alot of money

[next ivy]

all machines show you how much they produce and consume, in items per minute

you can see those numbers when opening pretty much any machine, on the left theres input, on the right its output

[tribal shell]

And if you're bad at math like me, use the search bar ("N" on PC) as a calculator

[next ivy]

#screenshots message

example for iron plates

[elfin smelt]

Im afraid to say but this game needs you to do a lot of maths if you want to be as productive as you want

[next ivy]

you could also eyeball it

[daring oriole]

could like some1 hop onto a vc with me so i can screenshare cuz idfk what im doing its my first time playing

[next ivy]

look at the belts,
if theyre full youre good
if theyre empty make more
if items start to build up in machines, they are limited by belt speed probably

[daring oriole]

i spent 14 hours just trying to make smart plating

[elfin smelt]

theres no vc in this server

[daring oriole]

fr bruuhh then need to add one

[tall lantern]

no they don't

[elfin smelt]

they don't

every problem and questions can be explained through text and screenshots

[tall lantern]

for a first time you should definitely try and learn it yourself without handholding, at least for a bit. The whole tier set are a big tutorial, and playing it yourself'll let you learn to troubleshoot.

[whole crown]

İs there anyone who wants to play?

[tall lantern]

if you still can't solve it after some proper time and effort then #1038092680493801533 is the best place to ask specific questions

[tall lantern]

#1201555265942724758

[young hound]

does using power shards for power generators make them less efficient?

[tall lantern]

no, straight linear on generators

[young hound]

absolutely no loss?

[tall lantern]

250% clock = 250% input cost, 250% power generated

[young hound]

thats great thanks

[whole crown]

🤓 ☝️

[elfin smelt]

aside from the power shards yeah no loss

[tall lantern]

(vs on production machines where the input/output scales linearly but power usage doesn't)

[whole crown]

🥀

[tall lantern]

I'm not looking for a group, so no thanks

if I was, I'd be in that channel

[whole crown]

[whole crown]

[tall lantern]

pinging people with random stuff also doesn't help your chances

[wispy sun]

does mark 2 miner just mine twice the amount of ore per minute?

[delicate hinge]

Quick question, if you change to experimental 1.2 does that ruin your save? Even if let's say you join someone elses save?

[elfin smelt]

it consumes much more power tho

[lucid bloom]

It shouldn't affect saves you don't load and save in 1.2. If you purely play 1.2 to join multiplayer it shouldn't affect your own saves.

I'm not at home RN but loading 1.2 gives you a warning about it and recommends making backups for any 1.0, 1.1 save files

[weary condor]

Be sure to back up saves before switching just in case

[lucid bloom]

Definently backup your saves

[tall lantern]

it doesn't ruin your save, but any save files from newer versions cannot be loaded in older versions. So if you don't back up your saves, and need to go back to 1.1 for any reason, you're just stuck

at least if you took backups, you have something to revert to. still lose any progress you made obviously, but it's something

[delicate hinge]

Thank you!

ok i guess it doesn't hurt to create a backup just in case.

[tall lantern]

good idea in general to have backups anyway, this just gives an extra reason

also make sure to backup any blueprints too, same deal

[delicate hinge]

Yeah

[whole crown]

ow yeah

[delicate hinge]

i'm just not playing satisfactory that often to kind of keep the backups, But i've come so far in my current save.

[tall lantern]

don't you back up your whole PC anyway?

[whole crown]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-what-gif-3784745843284049350

[delicate hinge]

Backup.... what backup??

[timid rune]

to overclock 59 converters or not, fun decisions!

[delicate hinge]

l've got 2, one for gaming and a personal one, the personal one is the only one i'm kind of backing up on a regular basis, but the gaming on i only backup if there's something important i'm saving temporarily. Besides, i'm on win 10 so the support for updates aren't many and i don't find the pc to be that much of an issue

[tall plover]

Why stop at 59?

i have a total of 124 fully overclocked converters

[warped barn]

I have an interesting question

Is the energy animals are respawnables ?

[tall plover]

power slugs? no

but you can make power shards later yourself

[delicate hinge]

really?? I thought they do respawn??

[young hound]

they dont, but tamed lizard doggos can generate infinite power slugs over time

[tall plover]

or... you automate them

[reef basin]

we had them in the past. They are not possible to moderate, so they were removed

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1492177309371990149 i was like that seem low for 60 generators ... ohh missed a wire and DAYUM

[merry ridge]

Slooping iron plates or screws imo

[sacred dagger]

I’d like to ask something.

Does this game support ‘auto-run’ without having to press the ‘WASD’ keys?

[merry ridge]

Oh I thought you asked “what would be the worst thing to sloop”

lol reading while driving atm

[flint dawn]

There is no afk kicking timer if that’s what you mean, even on console when your controller turns off it’ll still run

[eager palm]

Not that I've encountered. Best bet so far is to have something heavy and well balanced to set on your W key

[sacred dagger]

#streams-and-videos I have a clip and I’ve uploaded it here

[young hound]

steel screws + oc + sloop

[crisp mountain]

Is there any other good reason for making everything on foundations other than looking good to the eye

[mortal ginkgo]

lets you be more organized and foundations and such has grid-like zones for better placement

[wispy sun]

how much mw approximately does it consume

[elfin smelt]

exactly 3 times as much as the last one

[fringe shadow]

so i will have impure oil 24/7 ?

[elfin smelt]

mk1 5MW, mk2 15MW, mk3 45MW

[crisp mountain]

Is it worth to rebuild the stuff then?

[reef basin]

not really

[reef basin]

also not really

[wild hollow]

I never thought concrete was going to be my main bottleneck in lategame lol

I keep running out even though I fill up half my inv with it

[young hound]

soo real id have 10 dimensional depots just to upload concrete and its still not enough

[wild hollow]

Real

Building production steps now with 5 floors each, 830 concrete per floor.

[tall plover]

idk what the pure recipe is anymore, but i think so, yea

[fringe shadow]

rip

[vernal vortex]

Whats the Total amount of oil/min on the entire map?

[reef basin]

pick all you want and decrease pool size to minimum

[tall plover]

i have made a bad decision by wanting to make 400 biochemical sculptors per minute

this factory

is getting absolutely huge

[reef basin]

around 12.6k

[fringe shadow]

im doing 37.5k power with fuel rn.. its big af

[tall plover]

#screenshots 400 GW per min

with ionized fuel

technically not optimal but fuck it

wanted to do it for the fun of it

[fringe shadow]

thats big

[tall plover]

its already smaller than the biochemical sculptor factory rn

and im not even close to being finished

[autumn musk]

bois is there way to unglitch my boombox stuck under my base underground somehow still playing doom

[tall plover]

why would you wanna stop that

[autumn musk]

when someone else hops on my world for me its fine

i bought another boombox

[tall plover]

i wouldnt associate myself with people that dont like doom music

[leaden cosmos]

im thinking of where to put my home base to not disturb factory building. this is gonna be my 2nd save bc i got cooked on planning the logistics and i dont feel like scrambling over whatever ive built in the past

[tall lantern]

since your "home base" is only really just the HUB and maybe Space Elevator, put it wherever's convenient, and move as needed

[leaden cosmos]

oh oke

[silver pollen]

lmao

[wispy sun]

if i need 330 coal per minute so i make the 2 mk2 miners produce 165 coal per minute and then i do a throttle system so that one miner uses mk1 belt and the other uses mk3 belt, my question is after i put them through a conveyor lift do i need to continue the mark 1 belt or can it also be a mk3 because only mk1 goes to the input side of the lift

[worn oar]

Mk3 is fine at any point after the start of the belt, because even one mk1 at the miner will limit the rate.

[spare prism]

Hi

[wispy sun]

uh huh, so after they travel through the lift i can make them go on mk3 belts from i understand

i just wanted to make sure

[regal tiger]

I'm working on blueprints for railroads, and am looking for a way to connect the top of the slope with a flat section, without a gap (the foundations are flanked by half sunk concrete pillars and that creates the gap). If I (half) nudge another piece up it sticks up through the flat portion of pillar, which looks worse to me. Any suggestions for how to do this?

Another thing I have spotted is that on top of the pillars sits a beam, and on top of that are railings. I got the railings to slope by initially placing the railing on the slop foundation and then nudging vertically and horizontally until on the beam. but the left and right are slightly misaligned, and I have no idea how. The kicker is that the one that i cannot reproduce by nudging as i thought I did originally is the one that looks best when connecting to the top and bottom of a slope, so is the one I actually want to use!

#screenshots message

[marble ibex]

Hello everyone, the question is, if I start playing the experimental version of the game, will I be able to continue when the experimental version is released?

[tall lantern]

yes, saves carry forward

just not backward

[spice patio]

Just care that the game version used to load them is same or newer than the one that made them.
Not caring about the branch labels at all.

[fiery root]

Could it be, that east of the first location of that grassy lands there may come an area that isn't the healthiest for New pioneers? With quite alot xenos tanking my bolts

[tall lantern]

yeah they're a bit more hostile out that way

[fiery root]

Im thinking about searching West for coal. Cause i dont yet want to Deal with that deadly Terrain and hostile cratures

[fiery root]

I see, thanks.
Gonna make that area to my nuclear waste deposit

[glad carbon]

I have returned to satisfactory, only question now is do i turn my entire world into a nuclear wasteland?

[shy temple]

By having trains of nuclear material running on your mainline and going all snowpiercer with them.

[feral vector]

how much coal do you need? north of the grass starting area is quite a bit of coal that's pretty safe but maybe you're past that point

[glad carbon]

I js relised i need to actually finish my bauxite factory, which has turned into my copper factory 😭

[shy temple]

West there is a place as part of grassy fields that I loved to set up for coal that is fairly early game and newer player friendly.

[left bane]

hi!

[shy temple]

I don't want to spoiler too much, but if you hit the scanner in grassy fields, a few coal nodes should ping available. It is a really nice place for some early game building with lots to offer. There are some slightly tougher zenos, but moving around is easy enough and nothing too extreme.

[shy temple]

On my current map, I am in the process of setting up the bauxite myself. I decided to go mega train routing though for fun.

I haul raw resources around and like to process internally in factories. When 1.2 comes out, I am thinking of doing a more BUS system with raw resource production areas where instead of horizontal expansion, I go vertical.

[glad carbon]

I tried reusing the water from bauxite production into copper, bad idea, i have like over 1500 copper a min

[shy temple]

XD Ooop!

[left bane]

HI! i was just curious and wanted to hop on down here to ask if satisfactory was very demanding when it comes to performance as i run on a absolute potato and i only have 16 GB of ram so was curious or if i should just buy the game on console thanks!

[glad carbon]

Like the dummahh i am i decided to sloop all my machines

[atomic venture]

its not demanding

[glad carbon]

16gb of ram prolly wont last if you gonna build really big stuff

[zenith pecan]

32gb generally does unless you build like me.

[feral vector]

what do you mean by potato? I'm on a 3060ti and an old mid cpu and 16gb ram and it runs really well, but I haven't done any insane mega factories

[feral vector]

and you think it would work better on console?

[zenith pecan]

I've had saves eat 50 🤣

[glad carbon]

Im on console, and i dunno

Maybe?

[feral vector]

lol fair

[glad carbon]

I mean i did kinda cover the entire swamp area in buildingq

[fiery root]

I see, but what about the water tho? I mean i want the coal for New power

[glad carbon]

Game still runs fine

[feral vector]

scan for coal, head to the cluster of nodes north of the grassy fields starting area, there is tons of coal next to a big lake

that's like, the go-to coal plant spot

nothing worse than a couple hogs on the way

[shy temple]

It is on the shore of a nice lake!

[fiery root]

North there is coal?? On my hub it showed east so i thought that would be the next thing to go to

[left bane]

oh so for my processor it is a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.59 GHz) with 4 gb of v ram erm absolute toaster (im on laptop) ;0

[shy temple]

For grassy fields, there is one on the southmost edge of the fields on like a rocky column breaking away from main land. Then there is the one we are talking about that is sort of north/northwest

East is a bit more hostile. A good spot, but there is some bigger hostiles.

I don't want to spoiler it too much for you, but you will find it more thant satisfactory

[glad carbon]

This is my first time ive ever seen mk5 belts clog up

[fiery root]

Yess that rocky thing is where is went
But the enemies there
Everything wanted me dead. And took helluva effort do get rid of

[strange vortex]

@finite hornet you pinged wrong person

[feral vector]

you started in the green area right? north is for the easiest coal plant, there's like 4 coal nodes near a lake. You don't have to go east until you unlock scanning for oil and you'll see a bunch of nodes out east, which is also near water, great place for first fuel power plants

[shy temple]

Well, as for enemies? There will be some enemies everywhere and it can take a bit of practice to learn how to fight them reasonably.

Main thing you want to do early on is not to neglect your MAM research so you can get some upgrades.

[fiery root]

Yes i noticed i should run that Research more

[shy temple]

Then you need to do more line consolidation for your sink. :-3

[feral vector]

if you scan for coal nodes in the grassy fields the big cluster of nodes to the north should be pretty easy to find

[zenith pecan]

I just chuck down a kind of blueprinted bunker and shoot from inside for most hostiles if I'm being epic kazy.

[feral vector]

I ended up making my aluminum factory there but I didn't leave much extra room rip lol, might have to tear down my coal gens

once I got a rifle I felt like a bully lol

[shy temple]

There are just a few simple things early on that will really help. An upgrade to the basic zapper, and then also items to help with ranged.

Practice on how to fight too can make a big difference, dodging, particularly with jump.

[shy temple]

Not to mention spicy pills

[fiery root]

Aight. Crazy that it didn't showed me that first.. there first thing where in east 1,2 km away

[feral vector]

you find that group of 4 nodes now? you should be set for a real nice coal plant 🙂

[shy temple]

If you know how to play, east can be a really good spot because of the resource variety there, but not beginner friendly. My current map I went east for coal first. I still havent set up at that lake this time. But again, that was for challenge.

[fiery root]

Yea yes that coalcplan will allow me to make a glorious factory

[shy temple]

GLORIOUS!

It really is a nice place to build, both visually and mechanically. I usually also use tractors to haul coal out of there to my main base as well early on in addition to the power.

[feral vector]

really? there are two pure nodes south and southeast that I just belted over, used the ones near the lake for coal gens

[shy temple]

There is other stuff you can do with coal that is unlockable (I don't like to spoiler) that has some resources nearby to really make use of it.

[fiery root]

That is a smart way to use them

[feral vector]

yeah it's a good spot for a factory later, using it in phase 4

[shy temple]

Those go to my initial power production locations and some steel. I play a bit different than many people do so that usually isnt enough.

I had actually forgotten I was on this discord until I made a comment with a person on steam cause I missed chatting the game and am on epic from og launch.

... Wow, I joined this discord seven years ago!

[feral vector]

fair enough, wasn't trying to disagree, just interesting how people do stuff. I'm awful at the game XD

[fiery root]

A true pioneer legend

[feral vector]

jeez lol a real OG

[glad carbon]

Nuh uh, reuse all of it

[shy temple]

I love all the different way people do things myself. IMO, there is no wrong way. I am no elite pro either. I just like making up stuff on the fly.

[fiery root]

They teached about you on the pioneer academy

[feral vector]

oh I'm pretty sure I'm doing it wrong 😛

phase 4 is gonna be the end of me, I had to stop playing and spend all my time in planners lol

[shy temple]

Heh heh, I love my sushi train. It is one thing I always set up in my bases. I am just on a break atm with work and popped in. Going for lunch. This evening I will post some screenies of my work now.

[feral vector]

I mean I'm sure I could just send it and it would have worked out, I'm too picky about stuff

[shy temple]

Lowkey? I have never actually finished the game. I keep restarting early game

[glad carbon]

Imma go take a nice bath in my sommer sloop bath

[shy temple]

I would play for a lot, take a break, forget what I was doing and start a new.

[glad carbon]

You feel complete when you can make a bath out of sommersloops

[fiery root]

I will finish that for you, fella

[shy temple]

Need screenshots of that!

#screenshots message

[glad carbon]

I have them somewhere

[shy temple]

Origins of the sluglife in my name. To this day, I still never harvest slugs

[glad carbon]

I dont need to

[shy temple]

Now though they preserve their visuals on vonveyors.

[glad carbon]

I js keep em as pets

[shy temple]

heading out.

[glad carbon]

I lowk have like 3000 sommer sloops

I lied i have over 6000

[finite hornet]

oh... sry

[feral vector]

does the scanner just bug out sometimes? it just showed me 3 copper nodes then I scanned again and they vanished ol

[fiery pewter]

No they just show up for a short while

Then they dissapear again

[feral vector]

I mean I scanned again and it's not showing them

[fiery pewter]

Large distance?

[feral vector]

nah they were only a few hundred meters away hmm

I see them on the interactive map too I checked to make sure I'm not crazy XD

[fiery pewter]

Time to call some exterminators if it doesn't work

[latent prawn]

sometimes it can be a little flaky, idk what the condition is because the scanner is only useful in the game for a little while before you get signal towers

[feral vector]

oh yeah I should start using those towers whoops

[latent prawn]

yeah, towers are +1

[worn oar]

Has anyone actually mined and extracted every node?

[fiery pewter]

Probably

[worn oar]

I don't mean just put down a miner and leave, but actually use them

[fiery pewter]

Again probably

More like definitly

[latent prawn]

i saw a yt video where someone belted and sank all the nodes on the map

[worn oar]

That's absoolutely wild

[fiery pewter]

Just check the big Satisfactory YouTubers

[worn oar]

I'm over here feeling like a basic aluminum setup is a lot of work lmao

[latent prawn]

as far as actual factory building, if you max out ficsonium fuel rods, chances are about the only thing you'll have left is limestone which is a bit more than you'll ever need

aluminum is a meatball, for sure

greatly simplified if you use the sloppy->electro->pure ingot or instant scrap alts

[worn oar]

My problem is that I feel like it's inefficient to go exploring when I don't have a production chain I need running, so I usually just explore while elevator parts are being produced and I can't make a new type

Or if there's something slow that I just barely automated like motors

[latent prawn]

build only what you need when you need it. small, slow production chains with exploring on the side is kind of the way to do it

[fluid sapphire]

There's only so much to explore, after a while everything is explored already :p

[fringe shadow]

bro im doing 37.5k mw and to start it i gotta have 5.8k..

[vernal vortex]

Whats the difference between 1.1 and 1.2?(New stuff and etc)
Nvm found it

[unkempt blade]

start part of it then use that to start the rest

[fringe shadow]

oh ye true

[sharp creek]

what does gmt mean

[red sun]

In what context

[rigid wedge]

turns out you dont have to upgrade ur power gen if you just connect the 50% of it you forgot to hook up when you built it a few days ago

[sharp creek]

in the multiplayer

it says gmt +0 or like +7

[real shale]

0.1

[sharp creek]

ohhhh

its hours im stupid

[bold isle]

gmt is the agreed upon "general" time. your timezone is either gmt or gmt+/- the amount of hours off you are

[sharp creek]

i see

[glad carbon]

I wonder what a TB of ram would allow a satisfactory world to become

Okay now thats sick, the space station moves to where your new space elevator, just reaaaaaalllly slowly

[empty bridge]

hi all. how do I build a miner mk i on top of a caterium deposit. it says invalid placement.

[glad carbon]

Is there anything obstructing the node?

[empty bridge]

a rock but no idea how to clear it

[glad carbon]

Explosives

Thats later on tho

[empty bridge]

oh. so no way of mining it?

[glad carbon]

A little bits exposed no?

Cuz you can use the portable miners and mine it yourself to get the research on the caterium tree done a lil early

[serene jolt]

Make an unholy amount of portable miners and put them on every inch of space

[empty bridge]

thanks. I'm really just delaying the fact that I have to find and build a coal mining facilty for power

[covert linden]

hi 🙂

[glad carbon]

Coal power

I should rename myself to coal power sucks

[frosty sedge]

Are aluminium sheets required for the conveyor belts

[glad carbon]

Ye

Mk5

[tall lantern]

weird typo of "is great for getting off of biomass power"

[frosty sedge]

Kk Ty

[covert linden]

is there any shop where we can buy some goodies ?

[glad carbon]

Nuh uh

I love my biomass

Im using it over nuclear

[cold berry]

It's time to get lit and play a factory game (no drugs, my drug is efficiency)

[fiery root]

It doesss?

[glad carbon]

Realllllly slowly tho

[fiery root]

What if i move the elevator and then do a Upgrade on it? Does it work?

[wanton sky]

What does the blue color do?

[glad carbon]

I dunno

Ill have to try that with my phase 4

[wispy sun]

i just want to make sure, if i m producing 270 steel ingots per minute and i want to do a manifold so that 5 constructors recieve the steel ingots, ill have to do the manifold with mk3 belts right?

[fiery root]

Some race against the time
To Upgrade it before the elevator comes

[frosty sedge]

Yea as long as mk3 can move 270 or above per minutes

[glad carbon]

Im too busy planning to make a space elevator made of biomass burners so kinda cant for a while

[wispy sun]

oh alright then thanks

[fiery root]

So as long as i have same output of my miner and belts, i can feed like 5 constructors effectively when their Max input is also the said output of miner?

[young sentinel]

is there a way to either:
A: get the chainsaw to run on something other than biofuel
B: when carrying biofuel, not have my jetpack default to burning biofuel

[frosty sedge]

As long as your conveyers move at that speed then sure

I would wait like literally 10 secs before turning on the constructors just so there not on the edge of running out

That's just me tho

[fiery root]

Understandable

[tepid ferry]

currently in act 2 what items should i have in my dimensional depot?

[glad carbon]

Concrete

Atleast thats what i did

[frosty sedge]

Whatever U need for conveyors in my opinion 2 for concrete depending on speed and size of the depo and iron plates and rods

[fervent adder]

Hey how much have you guys started over in satisfactory. I'm on my second run now and just got to oil. Now I'm finding out I made quite a few logistical errors

And thinking about starting over again

Idk If I should though ( it has also been like 2 weeks since I last touched the game)

[hard wolf]

everything but screws. just make sure you have a buffer before each resource. I actually just added screws to my depot a few days ago but I think that was after completing phase 3. stators also aren't really necessary until fluid trucks

[glad carbon]

I started over once, cuz my very first playthrough i spent 80 hours not automating my stuff ti complete phases, js gotta plane a little ahead

Plane?

[limpid furnace]

Just abandoned your starter factory and start fresh in another area

[fervent adder]

Well I have everything automated but it's like not expendable LIKE AT ALL

[fervent adder]

It's quite big so if I would do that I might as well just destroy the current one

Which is my second option

[glad carbon]

I js relised i only have like 140 hours on the game and i spent 80 of which on a world that i didnt make past phase 3 😭😭😭

[frosty sedge]

I think I should of done that but instead I spent the last 30h fixing everything and making a mega factory that makes everything from iron plates to computers

[limpid furnace]

Starting over doesn’t solve the problem of bad base building. Either move to a new location or build upward. The amount of time it takes to start over is probably the same as just fixing it

[glad carbon]

Kinda doing the same rn

Except i already have one that does that

So im making a second one to make everything in the game

At a rate of 120 per min minimum

[frosty sedge]

That's my dream

[glad carbon]

My sommer sloops are making sure

That happens

My 6650 (i think i counted correctly) sommersloops

[frosty sedge]

How the hell do U have 6k sloops

[glad carbon]

Uhh

They kinda just started raining

[frosty sedge]

Uh never heard that one

[glad carbon]

Like theres usually what?

104 sommer sloops?

[frosty sedge]

I have 17

[glad carbon]

I have

[fiery root]

I have 0

[glad carbon]

295

[fiery root]

One reseached tho

[glad carbon]

In my inv

[frosty sedge]

Jeez

[glad carbon]

Lemme send a image of em

[strong fiber]

holy duper

[glad carbon]

Whaaat i wanted sommer sloops, over all i dont dupe anything but sommer sloops, powershards, snails, and mercer spheres

Rest i get on my own

[strong fiber]

bro why powershards

[glad carbon]

Because

[frosty sedge]

U can dupe stuff? I feel stupid now

[strong fiber]

There limited for a reason so you can automate them at the end

[glad carbon]

Patched on pc

[frosty sedge]

Lucky me

I'm not apart of that dw

[glad carbon]

Yeaaa but i like the snails

[strong fiber]

Duping stuff like power shards which makes some recipes useless

[strong fiber]

wtf you do wit the snails

[glad carbon]

Leave em?

[strong fiber]

where

[glad carbon]

Let them give more colour to my world

[fiery root]

Fellas i wanna rebuild
I need opinions

I started in the grassy fields starten biome. And settled south right at that big big cliff

There are like 5 iron nodes? And one copper nearby
As well as 3 cement on that little hole northern.

And now i have the alt recipe of copper wire, which i mostly need for everything.
So i rhink o can setup a very clean main factory there giving me the essentials

Am i wrong?

[strong fiber]

Grassy fields has lots of copper

There should be more if you ventured a little out

[glad carbon]

I also js use them as mam decor

[hard wolf]

the dune desert is also a good spot but I decided to set up my phase 3 project part factory there

[strong fiber]

I was on phase 5 but had to restart cuz my world became too unstable

[fiery root]

Yea but i like my little safe area i made
And i would like to focus on efficient iron stuff manufactoring before doing that with copper

[strong fiber]

uhm ok

[glad carbon]

Ill be real, having so many sloops actually makes the game harder, cuz i have to calculate everything by myself rather than using the site

[strong fiber]

You can sloop

[lucid maple]

is there a cheat sheet of all the alternate recipes that are the good ones?

[strong fiber]

Nvm only in the steam version

That i know of

But it cant be that hard bro

just divide by two

[glad carbon]

Yes, but then i havr to calc all the throughputs by myself, takes my time up 😭

[white dawn]

There are no "bad" or "good" recipes. There are merely recipes which are a good fit for your current circumstance and ones which are a less good fit

All recipes are at least situationally useful; any "tier list" or whatever is misleading you

[lucid maple]

but what about recipes for things i dont have yet

[white dawn]

Recipes are all about tradeoffs. One resource for another. Resource efficiency versus complexity. etc

[lucid maple]

i wont know what i need ahead of time

[white dawn]

The system will only give you recipes that you can use right now. The random pool expands as you unlock milestones

[strong fiber]

Every recipe has its own uses usually trading one resource for another

[lucid maple]

like i got a concrete and silica one both took silica, no need for silica recipes yet

[white dawn]

Even if you find recipes you're specifically fond of, you may not always use them because recipes often have niches in which they excel

[strong fiber]

Just save them in the MAM until you need them

[white dawn]

Just 'cause you use recipe A in this factory doesn't mean you'll want to use it in the next factory

[lucid maple]

you dont have to choose there and then?

[strong fiber]

No you can keep them in there which stops the same recipes from popping up

[craggy walrus]

Hi, do we have any way to retrieve the .umap of the game ? I'm trying to retrieve rss nodes automatically for a tools but I can't find them either in CommunityRessources folder or in .sav file of any save

[white dawn]

Correct, you can leave them unredeemed. But IMO that's a bad move; it's just gonna lead to a whole bunch of recipes you'll never remember to unlock and try

[strong fiber]

I also wouldn’t rescan either until im looking for an alt i need

[white dawn]

Better to just flip a coin and have them available as you're building factories

[lucid maple]

thanks

[white dawn]

More options == more flexible builds, more flexible factory locations, and more variety as you're building stuff

[strong fiber]

I always look at all the alts i have in the mam before building anything new to see if it could benefit me in my circumstances

Thats me personally

[bitter silo]

is it bad i wanna expand my fuel powerplant from 64 fuel gens to 128......????

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'm sure people do, sometimes, and obviously for more experienced players who are familiar with the recipes, you may have a better idea of what you'll want to use next

[strong fiber]

Not necessarily

[white dawn]

I'm quite confident in saying that most people who leave recipes locked away in the MAM library essentially never look at it until much later and they've got like 30 decisions to make instead of 1

[bitter silo]

ill just expand it upwards, tower of fuel consumption incoming haha

[white dawn]

And since you didn't know how to make the decision when you only had the one choice, having 30 of them all at once is hardly an improvement

[worn oar]

I always make a choice even if that's not optimal

[strong fiber]

Sometimes only useful for later on if im not using it right now but i know i will need it later its worth letting it sit for a while

[white dawn]

I admit my advice for experienced players would be different (not that an experienced player is coming here for that kind of advice anyway), but for first-time players who still aren't used to alts, IMO flipping a coin and redeeming immediately is far better than any other alternatives

[bitter silo]

i only recently learnt about the whole to-do list function hahahaa

[worn oar]

Same, it's an actual game-changer

[strong fiber]

For first time players i would recommend choosing right then and there because at that point in the game you dont really know what things will cost

[strong fiber]

Mine is broken

[bitter silo]

being able to be told EXACTLY how much you need of smth to make smth else. Game changer

[strong fiber]

my todo list never updates

[bitter silo]

how??

[bitter silo]

wth?

[strong fiber]

Its wierd idk

But its wtv cuz i dont use it anyways

[glad carbon]

Theres a todo list?

[strong fiber]

yes

[bitter silo]

im using it to manually make the stuff i need to get out of phase 4/5, cant remember which one im in rn

[worn oar]

Press tab, click right side of screen

[strong fiber]

hes console im pretty sure

[glad carbon]

Cries in controller

Okay yep theres a todo list

[strong fiber]

I forgot controller controlls its been too long

[bitter silo]

go as if your going to your map, its one of the tabs at the top

[worn oar]

Press Microsoft rune, move moving thingy to right

[glad carbon]

Its lowk empty

What was the point in the todo list

[strong fiber]

what r u talking about

[bitter silo]

you can search items on there you need/want to make, add to to-do list, and it'll give you numbers of what you need to make said items

[strong fiber]

I only ever use it for foundations btw

[worn oar]

Amazing how the most inefficient possible setup can make half of the thing I need in the time it takes me to find more power slugs and cut some trees

[bitter silo]

wym

[strong fiber]

The todo list

[glad carbon]

Oh, so basically, ive been able to not have to make a word document to save all i need to do

OOHHHHH

[bitter silo]

essentially

[glad carbon]

No wonder its a to do list

[bitter silo]

yh, but why foundations?

[bitter silo]

life changing huh

[glad carbon]

Uhh

Nuh uh

[bitter silo]

wym nuh uh

how isnt it?

[glad carbon]

Shhhhhh

[latent prawn]

even supports a limited markup language!

one thing i will say is that last time i really tried utilizing it for complex notes, i found that you hit the length limit for it pretty quickly

[bitter silo]

oh damn. never used it for notes. only recipes

[lucid maple]

im trying to use satisfactorytools to calculate a build for me based on how much resource i can pull but what would i put into the "production" tab to produce me a coal powered factory layout?

[white dawn]

sftools does require a bit of manual work to translate into "number of power generators," and in particular isn't especially useful for coal-powered gens (at least if you're feeding them just coal

sftools operates on "how do I produce x/min of resource Y" type questions

[lucid maple]

is there a better calc then?

[white dawn]

For coal gens, you're just mining coal and sending it directly into the gens, so there's literally no production line involved

You can build a coal gen and look at its control panel to tell you what the consumtion rate is

[lucid maple]

dont you also need water?

[white dawn]

Click on the little orange icon next to the buffers on there; it shows you the consumption rates that it consumes

Yes, it needs water+coal.

So it's just a matter of lining up what the gens need versus what you're mining/extracting

[lucid maple]

yeah i just wanted to eliminate manual counting im aware of how id do it manually

[white dawn]

There's a built-in calculator if you hit n. :)

[latent prawn]

tl;dr for coal is 8 generator/3 extractors/120/min coal

[lucid maple]

mk2 miners with mk3 belt 2x pure coal

[white dawn]

IMO sftools remains the "best" solver/calculator out there, but yeah, for generators you kind of have to "stop" at the fuel resource itself, and then do the math yourself for "how many gens does this support"

It's not hard math to do though, and it's well worth knowing how to do yourself. :)

[lucid maple]

nah i know its not hard im just looking for the easy way out lol

[latent prawn]

just double it and live with only pulling 240/min off of the miner. you can upgrade to double that later with mk4 belts

[lucid maple]

belts do 270 so we can overclock to produce that much to get max value from both pure nodes

[white dawn]

You could presumably use more manual-intensive planning tools like Satisfactory Modeller, if you like, of course.

[lucid maple]

then theres another pure and normal for steel

[latent prawn]

if you want to utilize the full 270, clocking everything to 112.5% will do that, but that's a lot of shards

[white dawn]

Which isn't a solver/calculator; it's more of a planner/modeller (as the name might imply)

Very different usecase. But that would presumably let you start with a miner and then hook it up to x machines, doing some of that math for you

[lucid maple]

its only 6 no?

[white dawn]

(I don't use it myself, but I know it's a popular tool)

[lucid maple]

wait no it would be 1 to reach 112?

[latent prawn]

1 for each of 16 generators and 6 for the extractors

[lucid maple]

the belt can do 270, miner mk 2 on pure is 240 no?

so only miners need overclocking

[latent prawn]

alternately, you could use 18 generators and push 90 water into the last 2, but doing so means a rebuild when you gain access to mk4 belts

[lucid maple]

by that time fuel should be unlocked

[latent prawn]

have to power fuel somehow

[lucid maple]

itself

[glad carbon]

Biomass

[lucid maple]

i meant fuel as a power source

[fervent adder]

Well I know what I did wrong and how to improve it

[latent prawn]

noob mistake

[lucid maple]

?

instead of being unhelpful maybe suggest better ways?

[latent prawn]

grid crashing is a thing

[lucid maple]

still unhelpful for someone at steel stage lol

[glad carbon]

Biomass is the only solution to power

[latent prawn]

it can be very painful to recover a world if your grid crashes and is self-bootstrapped

[worn oar]

Make a backup solid or liquid biofuel plant 👀

[lucid maple]

but i dont understand how using fuel generators (whatever the next stage of power production is) to produce power using fuel is bad

[glad carbon]

Biomass is best power, nothing can change my mind

[worn oar]

I can't reason you out of a position you never reasoned yourself into to begin with

[glad carbon]

What, nuh, not true, im reasonable

Wait im misreading

[worn oar]

Then look at the numbers lol. Biofuel has its place, both liquid and solid. But it's objectively not the best.

[glad carbon]

Hm

Biofuel has been so practical to me tho

I havent used any other power in the last 60 hours of my playthrough

And im at nuclear 😭

[white dawn]

I mean that's certainly a choice. :D

Most folks are quite happy to have fully-automatable power which will operate forever without having to have Pioneer attention, though. :)

[worn oar]

You can beat the game with biofuel if you want, but you're playing a challenge mode and it's not necessary

[glad carbon]

I only gotta spend an hour refilling it every 12 hours, its actually not a bad choice

[worn oar]

Tell me you're slooping it at least

[bleak valley]

What happens when you run out of biomass

[glad carbon]

I sloop everything

[glad carbon]

I kill more animals

[bleak valley]

Someone took the sloops advice too literally lol

[worn oar]

I mean if you're that committed to biofuel, whip out the mega chainsaw and you'll never run out ever

[white dawn]

That's a 7.6% factory-building efficiency loss you're taking, though! ADA would be displeased. :)

[glad carbon]

Im gonna cover ADA in conc floors

[worn oar]

I suggest getting mega chainsaw and putting the slooped animal dna into the awesome shop

[glad carbon]

I could

Or i could keep throwing computers in

I only need 3 million standard points

:p

[worn oar]

There are two scaling systems, one for animals and one for items

[glad carbon]

Ya ik

But then again i get 1 mil points per min so

I js naturally get coupons over time

[worn oar]

But deforesting whole biomes is fun.

[glad carbon]

I did that with the swamp

It was, not that fun

It took 10 hours

[uneven spade]

Man it feels good when an idea you had a year ago actually makes it into the game 🙂 . Trucks are so fun now.

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/681f845f6b7c573196376ec8

[worn oar]

Blade runners unlocked after only 27 hours 😌

[glad carbon]

Why not get the free ones in like the first 10 mins of the game

[worn oar]

The what

[glad carbon]

Yuh

[white dawn]

If you know where to look, there's a pair which are accessible in a cave basically whenever you can manage to get to them. Sort of requires dumb luck or foreknowledge, though

[worn oar]

Yikes

[white dawn]

I actually rarely bother grabbing them, myself. I just unlock 'em as usual. :)

[glad carbon]

Innit faster to grab em

Plus nearby you get 2 hard drives

[white dawn]

"why not [do something which your average user wouldn't even know existed]" isn't a super-helpful suggestion. :)

[glad carbon]

Lots of resources early game

[white dawn]

Sure, probably faster, but whatever

I like unlocking stuff. I like being rewarded for my work in the game. :)

And blade runners feel better when you've got hours of Not Having Blade Runners under your belt

[glad carbon]

I lowk thought they were later into the game

[white dawn]

Nah, can get 'em quite early via unlocks, though I admit that does require investment into the MAM which is also not always something your newer user will know to do

But yeah, there's a pair out there for lucky explorers or for people who already know where to look

Still fun to unlock 'em the "real" way, even if it took 27 hours. :)

[still dagger]

where can you find the recipe you unlocked ?

[worn oar]

Remember that FICSIT does not take responsibility for any harm caused by human error, even if that error is genetic.

[white dawn]

It's just available on the machine that the recipe "belongs" to. :)

[worn oar]

Hard drive library in the MAM or in the machines

[white dawn]

If you want to see what recipes you have available for a given resource, you can search for the resource in your codex (hit o or n ingame) -- the codex entry will tell you which building it's used in

[still dagger]

mmmmh so practical 🙂

[worn oar]

And MAM and codex and wiki

[white dawn]

The one thing the codex doesn't have is a full list of "here's the recipes you have available" -- it's only available on a per-resource basis

(And I don't think the MAM gives you any info for recipes you've already unlocked. Would only show you the details for choices you currently have available but have not yet chosen)

[sturdy oasis]

Hey, my game suddenly began to lag but i still have a good ping and can access my inventory fine. Can anyone help me?

[vestal dome]

guys how do i open chat in multiplayer

[sturdy oasis]

enter

[worn oar]

Enter, same as every game in the last 25 years

[wary osprey]

well, there's some games that use T or Y which is weird tbh

[white dawn]

Yeah, I actually don't think I've done multiplayer on a game which uses Enter

(Though I also don't often do multiplayer in general. But Enter is not universal, even if it's common nowadays)

[worn oar]

Ok sorry every non-Valve game of the last 25 years

[white dawn]

The multiplayer games I've played which don't use Enter have not been Valve games

[wheat reef]

Where is ||lizard doggo cave again? with mask and a exo||?

[wary osprey]

minecraft also use T as default key for opening chat, so every non-valve and not minecraft games

[white dawn]

Really the statement should have been "Enter, same as some other games which have come out in the past 25 years." 🥳

[worn oar]

Equivocation to make every statement I guess probably the same as every other statement maybe if there aren't exceptions possibly

Where would we be without arguments on the internet

[wary osprey]

But we can rebind to enter, which what I always does if it's not Enter

[tall lantern]

corrections*

[worn oar]

Is there any reason not to blow up every fart boulder I find?

Other than time

[tall lantern]

and the actual bombs

not really, if you've got the gear, go for it

[worn oar]

Cheers

[glad carbon]

Are the super computer alt recipies better?

[tall lantern]

alts are always tradeoffs, better in some ways but worse in others

[worn oar]

Superstate takes the least power and fewest machines, OC supercomputer produces the fastest but trades caterium for coal, quartz, and bauxite

[tall lantern]

and often that tradeoff is "swaps x resources for y resources", so that all depends on how much you value the resources, and that should really depend on what resources you have near where you want to build the thing

[dense gazelle]

is there a way to have a command be bound to multiple buttons eg. both c and mouse5 for crouch

[worn oar]

No

[shy temple]

Backreading the convo. How did you get so many?

[tall lantern]

lying or cheating lol

[shy temple]

||The way I find find it is go to the beach on west coast and follow it north. Eventually see like a U shaped cove (no water) in the beach with some bug pods and a cave above a 10m cliff approx.||

[glad carbon]

One of the dupe glitches that was patched on pc still works on playstation

[glad carbon]

Sent an image

[tall lantern]

the latter, then

[glad carbon]

Plus basically the rest of my world is legit

[wheat reef]

Thanks
I've found the ||nest but can't find either the exosuit||

[small crypt]

should i blueprint a packager and 2 fuel gens for crash sites or like 10 biofuel burners

[strange vortex]

Can i get some tips for Blueprints?

[leaden cosmos]

does my milestone progress save if i swap it to sth else?

[cold berry]

Anyone else here just kinda "skip" phase one? Like, I don't feel like the game is truly open until I have consistent power. So I just kinda do a patchwork job, tear everything down and then really start lol

[leaden cosmos]

thats my current plan lol

[cold berry]

I do like biofuel and it's niche as the only non-renewable. But I don't love using it as power for my base

I'm on 5x parts and I can't spam through this fast enough. I'm doing a minimal crafting run as well and ignoring that for this phase

[leaden cosmos]

i dont like how i have to run 24/7 for leaves lol

[small crypt]

just kill a few things, make a few stacks of solid biofuel and get to coal

[cold berry]

At least two constructors can power a lot with it

[cold berry]

It's more having a timer at all on resources stresses me out in this case

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots message bro i gotta use 1000 belts for rubber bec i only have mk4

[small crypt]

you dont have to make 1500 rubber a minute

[wheat reef]

Is there anything worthy except ||exosuit||?

[fringe shadow]

its for fuel

[fluid sapphire]

Just use the APA

[tame bobcat]

other than intersections is there any point of using path signals?

[deft flume]

hi just joined the server and have a question, because i joined after having found a minor issue in the game version 1.1, where would i write that? the Q&A Webste or question and help here on the server?😅

[shy temple]

It is a pretty neat helmet cosmetic. But mostly visual experience. I believe is a somersloop too.

[small crypt]

That doesnt generate power it just increases your grid

[frail sleet]

It generates power

[wheat reef]

Either I am blind or picking the helmet once in previous runs doesnt spawn it

[shy temple]

I have always used biofuel burners for their small size.

[small crypt]

Oh, ok awesome yeah I'll do that

[fringe shadow]

@drowsy carbon why more efficient? it does 6x less fuel 😄

[drowsy carbon]

are you making fuel or rubber?

[shy temple]

I dunno. Never checked. Maybe it is an unlock for game for use in future plays and multiplayer perhelps.

[drowsy carbon]

because for each its better a different way

[fringe shadow]

fuel ( i only have the problem that i have to use 5 manifold belts to a awesome sink because i only have mk 4

[drowsy carbon]

go into screenshots

[wheat reef]

I got default, lences one, welder like one, huge, bandana one, rgb, cat and golden, I am sure I miss it

[fringe shadow]

oh it takes 2x less refinerys..

[drowsy carbon]

ye

and less oil per fuel

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots

i guess to late now

its not finished yet, i need like 20more min

[drowsy carbon]

u still have time..

please fix it it hurts my eyes

[fringe shadow]

xd why

it doesnt look that bad

[drowsy carbon]

the numbers do..

[fringe shadow]

x2 refinerys but 100k points per min in shredder 😄

[drowsy carbon]

the tickets are not worth it 😔

[deft flume]

please anyone who could tell me where to go with it 😅

[fringe shadow]

ye ik its dumb xd, but i spend so much time i dont wanna delete it

[fringe shadow]

#1038092680493801533

[drowsy carbon]

think about it oil is not free

[fringe shadow]

or just here @deft flume

[fringe shadow]

im playing platform expansion mod

[tall lantern]

depends who you expect to help you.
if you want us lot to try and help out, #1038092680493801533
if it's something CSS devs would need to deal with, QA site

[drowsy carbon]

?

[fringe shadow]

i got infinit resources

#screenshots

its satisfactory skyblock

[drowsy carbon]

oh

well then u should make more

or just be efficient

[deft flume]

is a gafic thing, not clipping, so don´t think anyone can help with it from here then thanks 🫡

[tall lantern]

also worth noting that the QA is a place for reporting issues, but not so much for getting any sort of dev response

[deft flume]

okay well just wanne share it with them if wanted i could share it here too but as i said it is rather a game thing then anything else😅

[fiery root]

Why does ada wanna ||replace me with another pioneer?|| Am i not good enough?

[wise junco]

Fackory

[cold berry]

Okay so, I'm on random ore, and I got this on one spot; limestone, coal, copper x2, iron x2, Quartz, Caterium x2, Sulfur

So this will be the spot of my mega factory, and those will be the first nodes I use with conveyors going into a truck stop to gather more from the plains

Going to only use roads for obstacles and just use the terrain I think

[neat plank]

Why do conveyer lifts give clipping warnings when connecting a straight conveyer 😔

[storm zephyr]

whats turbo rifle ammo do

[normal orbit]

shoot many bullet more faster over time

[shy temple]

That sounds like a really fun spot. Make up a big central warehouse and distribution hub. Start basic factory there and then just feed into the line.

Personally I love to follow terrain with vehicles once outside of my main factory area. Even my rail, I have a railroad tie blueprint that I use to lift the rail a bit off terrain, but still try to flow with it.

Turbo ammo is red, therefore it is better.

[fiery root]

The northern grassy fields is amazing! Can't believe i never visited there

Coal, copper, caterium
All i need

[neon dragon]

is the daisy chaining unlock in the experimental version yet? i cant seem to find it

[ebon marten]

not in the mam?

[neon dragon]

im looking in the mam, everything online points to the caterium tree, but i cant find it

[ebon marten]

are you sure you are in 1.2?

[neat plank]

People building megafactories and im.still building a starter 38 hours in.

[neon dragon]

yes

which node in the tree has the daisy chaining?

[leaden cosmos]

Kinda stupid question but.
Would factorio's main bus organising strat work in satisfactory?

[neon dragon]

if its under powerpole mk3, than that would explain why im not seeing it yet

[normal orbit]

not really

[fiery root]

Slow and steady
I am also in the absolute starting position

[tall lantern]

not really, no

[neat plank]

I am rebuilding it tbf.

[leaden cosmos]

Aw :c

[fiery root]

Well same.
Can not do anything without proper iron production

[leaden cosmos]

Depending where you are you have easy access to 120+ per minute

[neat plank]

I dont have proper iron production.

[fiery root]

Well yeah i do.
But i ignored like half of my nodes

[neat plank]

Im stuck annoyed at this conveyer lift clipping

[leaden cosmos]

Oh

Atm my struggle is the 40MW that i have trying to get past level 2 to get to coal gens asap

[tall lantern]

why aren't you building biomass burners

[leaden cosmos]

And that makes 500 bolts a pain

[fiery root]

Wanna jump to a solid 240/min in iron
Good basic for manufsctors

[leaden cosmos]

I dont wanna end up like with my 1st savefile

[ebon marten]

i dont play 1.2 but it does seem to be with mk3 power poles, you should be able to daisy chain if you have those unlocked

[neon dragon]

it is in fact under pole mk3. i just looked up the exp tree on satisfactory calc site

[fiery root]

U can absolutely destroy it after getting coal

[tall lantern]

it's pretty standard setup to have a lil cluster of burners for phase 1, then shift over to coal asap in phase 2

[leaden cosmos]

Yes its true

[neat plank]

#screenshots message

But why.

[fiery root]

8 biomass burners lil enough cluster?

[neat plank]

What is it even clipping.

[leaden cosmos]

I think so

[tall lantern]

as with anything in this game, entirely up to your preferences

[leaden cosmos]

I remember having 6 on my first save

[tall lantern]

it's not an unreasonable number imo, at least

[neat plank]

I had 6-8 until Coal.

[fiery root]

Its eating through my biomass tho
I had a big struggle with finding coal and water

[tall lantern]

make sure you're making solid biofuel, at least

[neat plank]

I remember setting up a manifold that converted biomass into 6-8.

[tall lantern]

every starting area has somewhere with coal and water not tooo far away, I believe

[neat plank]

And that sorted me.

[tall lantern]

(only one I'm unsure of is the dune desert)

[ebon marten]

coal is easy to find

[fiery root]

Yes yes
Whole bio burner deidcated to make solid biofuel on repeat

[neat plank]

What I love about Coal is I'm only using 1/6th of it right now in my power.

[fiery root]

Well yeah i didnt find any at water. And the next were on that rocky construction in the east which is a little too hard for my lil bolt gun

[violet glen]

Hmm, what do you usually need more of? Alclad Alu Sheets, or Alu Casings? Right now I just split my alu 50/50 between them.

[pseudo mesa]

I wanna be able to fully automate factory cart production

[leaden cosmos]

Should i spam platforms whenever i wanna build anything?

[tall lantern]

foundations are handy

[leaden cosmos]

Im asking these bc im very scared im gonna get overhelmed early again

[violet glen]

foundations aren't technically mandatory, but without them the game is a huge pain imo

[tall lantern]

just try stuff out

[violet glen]

Usually when I pick an area, I level it out into as big of a flat space as I can, smoothing out the terrain as much as possible

[tall lantern]

there's ~nothing you can do to permanently screw yourself over, so just treat the base game as the tutorial it is

[marble torrent]

Anyway to make road barriers go on ramps perfectly like fences?

[shy temple]

I sort of flow with terrain, though when I get foundations and stuff unlocked, I will start to build more off ground and have subterrainean components below ground of sorts. Subways, piping, etc.

[leaden cosmos]

Base?
Also inventory space kinda

[tall lantern]

the 5 phases, before the game becomes full sandbox "make your own goals"

every tier has new lessons

[leaden cosmos]

Oh

[tall lantern]

it's pretty good as a tutorial tbh as long as you pay attention and try stuff out for yourself

[shy temple]

Because mineable resources are infinite, it is pretty difficult to lock yourself out.

[clear ivy]

kinda wish there was belt throughput limiters, would make my life so much easier

[real shale]

There is, lower tier belts :P

[tall lantern]

logistics is one of the main challenges all through the game

[cold berry]

Got a spaghetti nightmare to finish phase 1

[shy temple]

If you tear everything down and dont have enough to rebuild, then it can cause issues with hving to rebuild what was formerly torn down.

[clear ivy]

yeah but 60 per minute is still too fast

[leaden cosmos]

The thing that overhelms

[real shale]

Then split 60 into 30

[leaden cosmos]

Spaghetti

[tall lantern]

if you tear everything down you at least have the materials to rebuild that exactly as it was 😛

[shy temple]

The other is right at start and build too much to run off biofuel, then you can end up spending a lot of time running around trying to keep biomass going.

[clear ivy]

yeah you right, but then it takes more space

i just want a straight manifold you know

[tall lantern]

if it's a manifold you don't need to worry about ratios, it'll balance itself eventually(tm)

[shy temple]

Straight manifolds do rely on surplus to really function properly. It is sort of the reality of a manifold

[clear ivy]

well thats the thing, eventually

[tall lantern]

and you can speed up that eventually by prefilling the machines

[shy temple]

I think what OP is wanting is slow enough so the early ones don't take half the resource

[clear ivy]

yep

[tall lantern]

though tbh splitting 60 into a 30 is hardly brainmelting

[clear ivy]

yeah i gotta make a blueprint for a manifold with 60 to 30 splits

[neat plank]

Me who didn't collect any plants and went straight coal.

[shy temple]

There is a way sort of that is not so compact once you get smart stuff with using line filters.

[shy temple]

Manually making components? Aint nobody got time fo dat

[neat plank]

No. Animal meat.

[tall lantern]

nom

[shy temple]

Well, true. XD

[neat plank]

I got enough exploring.

[shy temple]

I don't think I ever used animal in a bio. That must look odd in the grinder. I always use the plants I clear from my build sites.

[cold berry]

Manifolds are great for over-tuned, high backend machines. If you just wanna vibe, they're there for you, granted you can get the throughput going to power them. I use them a lot, especially for things like ore distribution

Load balancers are for when you can't.

[tall lantern]

other way around
perfect splitting is for simple stuff but falls apart with more unbalanced splits, manifolds are the catch-all that works on everything

[cold berry]

But there are more compact load balancers than a lot of players know. I like 3 belt lifts all pointed the same way

[clear ivy]

also im struggling with coming up with a solution for a sushi belt path, cause the issue is a sushi belt can't run well without an awesome sink, but if you have multiple shops, especially of the same type of resource, the same shop will always take half of the resources cause it just ends up in the awesome sink

[cold berry]

Manifolds are the goat for ore distribution

I'm gonna give them that forever

Load balancers for that just take too much space, and you should have a surplus anyway IMO

[tall lantern]

surplus implies not 100% efficient 😛

[real shale]

You are right I should use 110% of the space available and clip stuff through walls

[cold berry]

Nooooo not like that

[clear ivy]

i think surplus on a manifold is fine, just because it can take awhile for the manifold to spin up

[elder oracle]

wait I’m stupid

you can just package liquids and then sink that

[clear ivy]

but conveyor limiters would change that whole situation

[tall lantern]

usually better options, but that's the ultimate fallback

[shy temple]

Yeah, a ratio for programmable splitters would do it. So you can set a 1-8-2 or however you want to input it. Essentially a tick counter.

[neat plank]

So like what is the alternative to a Manifold?

[tall lantern]

perfect splitting

or ratio splitting, or "load balancing"

[shy temple]

Manifold or splitting is pretty much the two ways.

[elder oracle]

Smart splitter manifolds

[tall lantern]

I don't like calling it balancing because your goal is generally to intentionally unbalance

[tall lantern]

wat

[jagged smelt]

Manifold wins in all scenarios for one reason. In the time you didn't plan, math, and build a balancer you are already half done with the next project.

[shy temple]

Fractal splitting can be compact, just difficult to set up because uses splitters and lifters.