satisfactory

[bronze kindle]

which gives you energy, and you cant have enough energy

[feral vector]

hmm I do have diluted packaged fuel to use the heavy oil residue

[bronze kindle]

i just used residual fuel tbh

[merry rapids]

i have almost 2k Wire. should i stop mining that?

[bronze kindle]

you'll eventually need them

[next ivy]

how do you mine wire

[merry rapids]

i mine copper and transform to wire

[bronze kindle]

i learnt overproducing aint a bad thing in satisfactory

[feral vector]

hmm I'm trying to set the planner to give me fuel and it still says to make a ton of polymer resin for plastic and rubber

it just adds refineries with the heavy oil residue alt instead of using the normal plastic and rubber recipes that give HOR

[bronze kindle]

just select the recipes you want

deselect the rest

[feral vector]

lol that's the issue idk which recipes I want

I'm trying to add all the alts I have in my library and unlock some of the ones it suggests. but it suggests so many of them heh, and lots of the time two it suggests are options on the same hard drive

[whole robin]

A smart splitter with overflow going to the 75 should work i think

[crude canyon]

so, has anyone ever something similar to this happen?
"why are my hmfs not coming?
Ok, I'm lacking in modular frames, because I'm lacking in rips, because I'm lacking in wire, why? Oh, because I've been doing quickwire for high speed connectors and now the caterium ingots are still loading, and I'm using those for wire"

[chrome musk]

ye i did it its working thx

[whole robin]

Glad to hear it

[feral vector]

pretty much every time I mess with my production lines this happens lol

I just leave things alone and build new factories now XD

[crude canyon]

This is why I group things by the machines now
"ok, 2 machines for storage, 3 for rips, 12 for motors..."

[somber smelt]

#screenshots how do i get rid of this appearing after the pipe is painted. Do i need to make the swatch the main one before i use the blueprint?

[scenic mirage]

iirc you can just hover over it w the same swatch and itll fix it

or you can just reapply the swatch

[somber smelt]

but doing that to over 500 machines sucks

[scenic mirage]

yikes ya that rlly does :/

[somber smelt]

sooo that is the only way....

[scenic mirage]

im not sure of another way sorry

[somber smelt]

alr thanks still

[scenic mirage]

maybe scim? or some kind of mod

[bronze kindle]

can i create multiple custom "swatches" + how can i deselect at the swatches section the things /i accidently clicked on multiple things except just the one i want

[ornate saffron]

you cant unselect.

you have to select another swatch. The defaults are the top row (provided you didnt change them)

[bronze kindle]

dang it

can i create new swatches unter the custom color tab thing ?

[fallen orbit]

Man i almost had a perfect design for the mk1 blueprint designer reinforced iron plates factory
Sadly the conveyor wall when you put a output belt to it , it barely clips with the designer and the designer doesn't let it be built
So thats the only thing I'll have to do manually

[fluid sapphire]

you get just the one custom swatch

[fallen orbit]

It was honestly challenging to fit and connect these many buildings but it's all connected now gonna test it in a bit

[bronze kindle]

damn

[somber smelt]

recolour your 18 swatches

thats how i did it for all my colours

[bronze kindle]

nah i wanted to switch the color faster since i'm dealing with multiple different fluid inputs i wanted to color them

[somber smelt]

you can get a swatch select onto your hotbar

then with E you can select your colour

[stuck canopy]

what part manufacturer is making in the its animation?

[fluid sapphire]

supercomputer?

[supple canopy]

I think a supercomputer? All machines make parts of the same item

[bitter silo]

istg, the bit i love about this game is using blueprint designer to make "copy and pastable" processes to make my life easier and keep things organised

[crude canyon]

you haven't seen my blueprints then

they're chaos in a black box

[stuck canopy]

constructor and assembler making non existent items, and yea wiki says its supercomputer but ...

[bronze kindle]

how much fuel (formal fuel) does a fuel gen need X/min ?

[supple canopy]

20

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1491859088769028252 doesnt look like one

[supple canopy]

they do if you set your graphics higher 😂

[bitter silo]

oh sometimes ill make them chaotic and box them in, but sometimes ill make super neat colour-coded ones haha

[fluid sapphire]

its a frame with a cylinder in it, thats what supercomputers look like

[stuck canopy]

had to download a mod that helps with animation because depending on where i was looking it went from 15 to +60 fps

[stuck canopy]

it changes item depending on graphics setting?

[austere spear]

Hello I have one question. I build like 7 geotermic factory to have a boost of energy, after a few hours the geotermic buildings stop working, if i go next to them start again working, is something is usual or is a bug ? Anyone can help me with this doubt ?

[supple canopy]

iirc they have better rendering, I might be wrong. But yea as @fluid sapphire said it doesn't get more super computer like than this

[supple canopy]

geothermals have fluctuating power output, check how low it gets

[austere spear]

Yes I know is fluctuating power but they literely stop working after a few hours

[stuck canopy]

huh ... yea i see did it got changed? only started playing not long ago and remember it looking different from kibitz videos

[merry rapids]

what is a space elevator and why do i need one? 😄

[supple canopy]

oh yea it updated with 1.0. Before that is was a normal computer with a black thingy on top

[stuck canopy]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Early_Access_Supercomputer.png

[stuck canopy]

you cant really progress without it

[fluid sapphire]

the whole reason you are on the planet?

[merry rapids]

alright!

[reef basin]

probably... in one definition of "efficient". But there's like tons of different definitions of "efficient". Game uses "efficiency" as "% of time machine is running", which doesn't change with recipes

[stuck canopy]

"The Space Elevator is a special building used to complete phases of Project Assembly by supplying it with Project Assembly Parts."

[sharp creek]

steel screws are not good since you need coal if im right?

[feral vector]

yeah I just meant like more output per input

[scenic mirage]

everything is good for different situations

[supple canopy]

what's wrong with using coal?

[feral vector]

seems like the calculator always skips steel screws anyways and goes for steel rods -> making screws from those

[ornate saffron]

steel screws are fine if you wish to simplifiy your chain and have steel

[reef basin]

well given that steel screws use different input than base/cast screws, it's impossible to say

because it depends on other recipes in chain

[sharp creek]

coal is important for some other recipes and as fuel, i just like using them for important stuff mainly and not alt recipes

[feral vector]

but like... I'm probably gonna try disabling steel rods cause I think I'd rather have less machines than a bit more efficiency

[stuck canopy]

how weird is the fact that first part that i used manufacturer for is automating air filters?

[ornate saffron]

you have to weigh resources yourself and choose your recipes based on what you want to do rather then what is "best" as what is best changes for every situation

[stuck canopy]

handcrafted the handfull of computers i needed for signals

[sharp creek]

spoiler alert, signals need computers

[reef basin]

the thing is, everyone has their own preferences, so "efficient" can mean anything 😉

[white dawn]

On the other hand, unless you're intentionally building really big, coal is effectively infinite (like most other resources). When I finished my 1.0 save, I was only using like 20% of the world's coal

[fluid sapphire]

whats the spoiler?

[sharp creek]

just talking to the guy who like a loser HANDCRAFTED COMPUTERS

FOR SIGNALS

THAT NEED COMPUTERS

[fluid sapphire]

whats the problem?

[sharp creek]

he needs to automate computers

[fluid sapphire]

probably will soon enough?

[ornate saffron]

there is no issues with handcrafting. We are not here to judge other peoples play styles

[warped whale]

Dont they use like 1 computer each?

[sharp creek]

ok

[supple canopy]

bro it took me 1000 hours to realize that mindset held me off from so much of the game. I read so many guides saying I had to absolutely save oil bauxite and the likes, only to realize I never used more than 20% of their respective maximum

[sharp creek]

i was mean i shouldnt have said that

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's way more resources of basically everything on the map than the majority of players are ever gonna come close to exhausting

[fluid sapphire]

i had to handcraft radio control units for drone ports, because i needed the ports to handle intermediate logistics for the radio control units i was going to produce ♻️

[reef basin]

like 80% of guides are misleading or straight up wrong lol

[white dawn]

It's easy to exhaust a local source of a resource, of course, so if you're doing a big build in one location you may need to import from elsewhere

[bronze kindle]

#screenshots message math has to be correct this time

[feral vector]

maybe I should try being less efficient and more lazy lol

[ornate saffron]

I do not give much weight to bauxite as a resource as i always have so much of it.

So i often use it for Alum rods and screws

[feral vector]

like this calculator never suggests steel rotors but that seems easy to work with

[white dawn]

But it really has to be an explicit, concerted effort to actually run out of a resource in the game (apart, as I say occasionally, for folks taking nuclear power all the way to Ficsonium -- SAM can run out more quickly than you might think)

[ornate saffron]

have you completed the game

[scenic mirage]

kibitz

[feral vector]

no lol stuck on planning phase 4

[reef basin]

it's very expensive compared to other rotor recipes. Tools optimise for resource efficiency

[fluid sapphire]

nothing more useless than guides that say stuff like that

[feral vector]

yeah that makes sense

[fluid sapphire]

except tier lists

[sharp creek]

i think you should raise pipes if you didnt, cause one of the problems i just solved was pipes going back to the resource pipes that pipe them into the pipe

[fluid sapphire]

those are even more useless

[supple canopy]

honestly, OCD memes aside, satisfactory is very spaggheti and inefficiency friendly

[ornate saffron]

then i wouldnt worry about min maxing inputs and out puts. Just try to have fun and play

unless min maxing is fun for you lol

[unkempt blade]

it's the worst rotor recipe because it uses the fewest screws per rotor

[feral vector]

lol more like I can't help but try to min max it's in my nature, I'm trying to relax a bit

[fluid sapphire]

the best thing to min-max is fun

[feral vector]

I've ignored alts for hours and hours of gameplay though so now I'm overwhelmed trying to figure out what to unlock XD

[sharp creek]

im trying to get rocket fuel rn, thats the next step. even if i have 17 gigawatts, (which maybe could get me to phase 5?) because i still have nightmares

[reef basin]

get them all and use different ones for each factory 😛

[fluid sapphire]

which calculator

[reef basin]

get a coin to decide which recipe to use each time

[feral vector]

I have 28 hard drives in my library lolol

[ornate saffron]

steel rotors cost you more resources to make then the default. the trade off is exactly what you said. its easier

[reef basin]

yeah just get all of them recipes

[supple canopy]

I've done that so much and it's so much more fun, as well as coin tossing for which biome I'm going to build next

[crude canyon]

honestly there's so many recipes at any given place you have to be wasteful to not do everything you want some times

[white dawn]

It helps to realize that there's really no wrong choices for alt recipes. You can always unlock 'em all, and they're all at least situationally useful

[feral vector]

lol just picking random shit would be more efficient than staring at a planner instead of having turbo motors being produced

[crude canyon]

compacted steel

steel cast plate

[feral vector]

yeah I'm just trying to use the calc to pick some cause I'm clueless and it's very confusing

[reef basin]

yeah, those are examples of useful recipes

[supple canopy]

sometimes yea, my advice after 2 or 3 planning burnouts is to part your project and commit to a small part of the project

[crude canyon]

or really? using sulfur to make a lot more machines?

[feral vector]

I did a big planner for all the new phase 4 stuff, and then split it down into parts, I just gotta figure out alt recipes

[reef basin]

why not? machines are one-time cost and a bit of power, and sulfur is hardly limiting factor

[white dawn]

Could be quite useful in a munitions factory

[reef basin]

or you can use it to process byproduct compacted from RF

tons of uses for each recipe. I'm not forcing you to use it, but do not call it useless either 🙂

[feral vector]

like steamed copper sheet seems great but am I really gonna run out of copper 😛

[sharp creek]

i did it, i saved my factory, are you guys proud of me?

[feral vector]

yes

[reef basin]

it's basically another "pure" version of a recipe, add water to get more

[fluid sapphire]

no but it can mean the difference between making do with local copper and having to import more

[sharp creek]

i hate copper,its iron but boring

[bronze kindle]

No. It is your mission to keep the factories running as a FICSIT Employee.

[feral vector]

yeah I think that's how I need to plan this stuff? if efficiency lets me use one local node instead of one local node plus one far away node then it's good, otherwise idc much

[unkempt blade]

yeah! and iron is just limestone but worse!

[fluid sapphire]

sure, if you dont need the extra output from adding water, adding water makes less sense

[sharp creek]

you must be employee of the month or smthn, so mean.

[fluid sapphire]

for me its free stuff i find hard to say no to

trade water for free resources? sign me up

[sharp creek]

i have never had to use limestone except like 5 times, but its design is real cool

[supple canopy]

unless you like pipes and refineries (I prioritize recipes that use blenders)

[sharp creek]

the fact you dont have to smelt it too is very nice

[fluid sapphire]

refineries are fine, piping water is not hard

[unkempt blade]

A lot of times for me it's just "I want to use [specific nodes in an area] to make [item types]" and then sometimes I need to use steamed copper sheets or whatever to make the math for the output work and sometimes I don't

[fluid sapphire]

i just go with vibes really

[unkempt blade]

pipes are my third favorite logistics strategy behind factory carts and trains!

[crude canyon]

thoughts on steel cast plate?

[feral vector]

that's what I was planning on doing I'm just being indecicive with alt recipes

[fluid sapphire]

1.2 will release and i will finally make my elevator part factory that uses almost no belts, just carts

you will love it

[ornate saffron]

insert peak efficacy meme here

[stuck canopy]

well sorry that i didnt waste time building a whole ass setup just to get 332 computers and instead laid almost 30 km of railways bringing enough recources to make +10 computers per minute if i wouldnt need to

[sharp creek]

i said sorry ):

tbh i hand craft my sam fluctuators

cause they are basically one time use for mam and the somer sloops crystal

[stuck canopy]

ya just read that part, was doing math to make sure that i was true

10+ per min and its limited by crude which i got more localy

[stuck canopy]

same, among other stuff i didnt bother

[sharp creek]

i hate signals

[ornate saffron]

i hand crafted 5 stacks 200 hours ago and im still working through them

[stuck canopy]

add more, fixed my issues

[sharp creek]

i add more, more break

there is this like 3 line 1 connected to the other

and they are same color, so if both cars arrive at same time they both stop forever

each time i add, it no work

[hearty flame]

i cant pull up my to do list, even when theres stuff added to it

[scenic mirage]

reload save

[hearty flame]

i mean ive not been able to for a while

[scenic mirage]

make sure its not collapsed

ive done that a few times 😭

[hearty flame]

how do i uncollapse it lol

[scenic mirage]

open the note editor and there should be a little button

[hearty flame]

...

wheres that

[scenic mirage]

m iirc, it should be in your controls

[hearty flame]

where tf

[stuck canopy]

sounds like you need path signals instead

[sharp creek]

i dont even know how they work

[strong lodge]

Anyoneay nowkay igpay atinlay?

[reef basin]

wouldn't recommend randomly adding signal

[scenic mirage]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

[stuck canopy]

only one train passes at a time through a junction

[reef basin]

that's either tons of typos, or non-english (in which case please use english as per #rules )

[reef basin]

use blocks everywhere to learn how blocks work. You don't need paths

[hearty flame]

where
i aint findin nun

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1491239071618695329
added along the long straights

[fair egret]

So I realized something. Something I like to make, that I expect most people end up making, is a filter for all the random crap you pick up: Biomass, creature remains, slugs. Dump 'em in a box and send them through some smart splitters for processing.

But, previously, I always preferred using programmable splitters over smart splitters, because if one of the items backed up, I didn't want the whole system to back up. If you set a smart splitter to "any undefined" for the items that don't match, it'll just halt if one of the filtered items gets clogged. But with a programmable splitter, you can say both "any undefined" and "overflow."

But what I realized is that you can just set the smart splitter to "overflow" and that will send undefined items through, as well. The cost is that it has to fill its internal buffer first, but that's easily worked around by sending some items you don't care about (like iron plates or whatever) through first, to jam up that buffer.

[worn oar]

Do you guys like to update and upgrade your old production and mining when you unlock new tech, or leave it alone and exploit new nodes?

[worn oar]

I just make one storage for leaves, one for wood, and one for solid biomass as a buffer

[reef basin]

looking at your image, remove them all and start again. Add a few and see how they behave. Learn how they work rather than randomly spamming them like you did

[stuck canopy]

huh ... i guess yea blocks should be able to handle junctions too but some scenarios needs a path

[white dawn]

I never upgrade, only build new

[feral vector]

hmm my newest set of storage containers uses only smart splitters instead of smart splitters that overflow into a second belt with a bunch of mergers, the overflow isn't gonna work properly?

[white dawn]

At most I'll upgrade miners and split off their output; I may want a new factory in basically the same place as an old one. But the actual factories remain untouched

[reef basin]

no scenario needs a path
yeah, path may be useful, but never required

[fair egret]

It depends. In general, I default to wanting to leave a perfectly functional factory alone, but when it comes to stuff like iron ingots, it can make sense to upgrade your smelters to more efficient recipies later on, so you can make maximal use of each node. I mean, you're eventually going to upgrade the miners to get more ore anyway, right?

[reef basin]

I never touch anything old, always build new

[feral vector]

I'm still trying to plan phase 4 stuff 😅

[reef basin]

though you can build new stuff on existing nodes, just upgrade the miner and split extra

[fair egret]

I'm not sure what you're saying, but my setup has no mergers. It's just a belt that flows through a series of smart splitters, in sequence, before dumping anything that couldn't get filtered into a box.

[dusky aspen]

there are now world seeds in satisfactory? that means i can have random worlds?

[fair egret]

1.2 has the ability to randomize nodes.

[reef basin]

not worlds, just node placements

[feral vector]

yeah my old setup is smart splitters with left to the item I want in storage, straight is any undefined, right is overflow, and then the right side leads to mergers that have a belt that handles all the overflow

[dusky aspen]

:/

[worn oar]

Same quantity of each node, randomized locations and purity are now options.

[feral vector]

but then when I made a new setup I was like I'm gonna try using just smart splitters with item to storage on left and overflow going straight. but you're saying overflow won't work unless you prime it or something?

[fair egret]

My setup filters left and right to different items, so I only need five splitters for the whole set (four creature remains, three slugs, leaves, wood, mycelia).

And then the center goes to the next splitter with "overflow", as I just described.

[dusky aspen]

can i make every node the best one and have achievements?

[worn oar]

No mod disables achievements. Only advanced options disables it.

[dusky aspen]

yay

[worn oar]

You could even just use cheat mods if you wanted to for some reason

[dusky aspen]

do i have to enable something to have these options? or are they normally in the game?

[fair egret]

Overflow works if you don't prime it, it's just that splitters have an internal buffer of like three items, and won't overflow until that buffer is full. So you can just fill that buffer with some plates first.

They are in the experimental branch.

Anyway, if you don't fill the buffer first, you can end up, like, trapping some precious purple slugs in limbo, or whatever.

So better to use plates to do it.

[stuck canopy]

i know trains get forcibly stoped by signals if they dont slow down in time but if it so happens that 2 trains come at a same junction they both might enter it because signals take time to change, thats where path signals is a must imo

[small crypt]

whoa...pure ingots are OP

[leaden turret]

@turbid tangle dare you to make a mod that disables achievements

[reef basin]

trains pre-reserve one segment ahead of time, so no path needed

[abstract heron]

Use ags

[leaden turret]

that would defeat the point in pedantically not being able to say "no mod disables achievements" 😛

[worn oar]

Armadyl greatsword

[ornate saffron]

I prefer the Moonlight greatsword

[worn oar]

Dare you to make a pure copper foundry and say that again

[feral vector]

oh okay that makes sense

ty

[abstract heron]

How about me making 100 nuclear pasta per minute by hand

[reef basin]

well, they cost water and more power

[worn oar]

Do it you won't

[abstract heron]

I am working on it

Working on it not overclocking

[strange vortex]

I'm motivated to play satisfactory but Idk what to do in it

[small crypt]

make a factory

[lost cloak]

is bacon renewable now?

[reef basin]

always was

[lost cloak]

you sure? i recall being told they didnt regrow

[reef basin]

doggos

[lost cloak]

this was years ago

[reef basin]

afaik nothing regrows

apart from nuts if you pick them from bushes and don't destroy the bush

[lost cloak]

and berries

[scenic mirage]

they regrow after updates tho right?

[reef basin]

only those that are added/moved afaik

[lost cloak]

thats what i was wondering, cause i always found it weird that they didnt regrow

[reef basin]

and maybe they fixed even that

because I remember them mentioning something like that in 1.0

but even without regrows they are technically renewable

[lost cloak]

how

[reef basin]

doggos

[lost cloak]

what do you mean

[reef basin]

lizard doggos

[lost cloak]

what do you mean

[reef basin]

can bring various resources

[lost cloak]

ok thats extremely low yield though

[reef basin]

including shards (or slugs, idk which ones), consumables, etc.

[brittle dune]

pretty sure nuts, berries, bacon, all regrow

[reef basin]

well, question was about renewability

[lost cloak]

ehh ok with that thinking, crude oil in the real world is also renewable.

apply some common sense

[brittle dune]

except when you remove the berry or nut plant

[violet glen]

"Is it a berry, or nuclear waste?"

[reef basin]

people have made farms for doggos. It is common sense

[reef basin]

bacon doesn't have the plant tho

once wiki starts working I can check the info there

[austere tinsel]

Consumables regrow.

[supple canopy]

I have a personal container full of reanimated sam from early 1.0 release sitting in my HUB, now my ficsonium plant only relies on recycled dark matter residue so I'll need to kickstart it. Guess what I'll use for it 👀

[violet glen]

so in theory, ignoring the doggo route, healing is finite 🤔

[lost cloak]

ok let me rephrase. Does the Bacon plant that naturally spawn when you first make a new safe file, excluding new bacon plants added by updates, or bacon plants that get moved, respawn in its natural spawn location, if it is not destroyed by a player or other entities, and only harvested by a player interacting it with pressing E

[brittle dune]

pretty sure it regrows in its spots

[austere tinsel]

As do plants and sticks, but only if they aren’t destroyed using explosives or the chainsaw.

If an object is destroyed with anything other than basic foraging.

It’s gone forever.

[austere tinsel]

Yes, it’ll regrow under those conditions.

[lost cloak]

ok nice

so they fixed it at some point, then i can use them for inhalers more recklessly

[supple canopy]

wait really?

[austere tinsel]

Yes.

[reef basin]

wiki seems to say

Unlike Nuts and Berries, Mushrooms do not regrow, as they lack a 'plant' that grows them.

though I'm limited to google previews, as the wiki is currently down

[supple canopy]

yea I was pretty sure the bacon agaric doesn't regrow but maybe I have old info

[ornate saffron]

Can't you heal via meat and berries?

[reef basin]

I think it was never supposed to regrow, and don't remember patch notes mentioning they regrow now

[lost cloak]

it 100% used to NOT regrow, so question is if they made it start to regrow

but if wiki says no, then they're probably right

[violet glen]

hm, I thought it was meat and mycelia, but I think you're right

[supple canopy]

same via the wayback machine captured in march 2026

[violet glen]

Meat and Nuts!

[lost cloak]

meat regrows(respawns)

[violet glen]

and Meat, Mycellia and Shrooms

[reef basin]

nuts definitely regrow, and berries as well
both of those can heal, nuts can be turned into protein inhalers

[ornate saffron]

OK but nuts regrow as long as ty you only pick them and dont destroy the plant

[violet glen]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

So heal with "deez" nuts

[lost cloak]

ok so protein inhalers are the only true renewable inhaler then

[supple canopy]

yes that's the idea I've always had anyways, i'll upload my save on a SCIM to see if bacons are missing

[serene jolt]

100X stage 1 seems brutal. No coal power the whole time. If it weren’t for that I would consider trying it

[ornate saffron]

Its a alien power augmentor speed run.

[dusk mirage]

My server is on 25x and everyone has too much time on their hands for shit like this. #screenshots message

[serene jolt]

Yeah

[lost cloak]

i have 1100 nuts 😄

also i could've sworn i swooped inhalers at some point, were they never automatable?

[violet glen]

Man, I hate fluids... I have 12x Heavy oil residue into 8x Residual Fuel, into 16 Fuel Gens, which in theory is a perfect ratio. But it just keeps stalling out cause of full outputs, one of each stages refinery only at 92~95%, consistently the same one, and 1~3 fuel gens flickering occasionally.

The setup is obsolete now, but I'd still kinda love to understand what's wrong

[lost cloak]

do you have space to add some buffers thoughout the loop?

[violet glen]

I could slap some of the huge tanks between each

[lost cloak]

dont think the big tank is needed, the small tank is plenty sufficient. try sneaking just 1 buffer in the generator pipe manifold

if that dont solve it, try overkilling it with buffers 😄

see if it does anything

[small crypt]

might not be saturating the pipe

and its sloshing around

[violet glen]

It's producing 320m³/s of fuel, so the big pipe is needed, but far from saturated

[lost cloak]

oh this sounds like an elevation issue then

i thought you had 600 in 600 out

if you have elevation in your pipes, then thoughput drops

[violet glen]

I don't think I can paste screenshots here

[lost cloak]

put a mark2 pump in the most obvious spot, if you have a chokepoint between generators and refineries

you can paste in #satisfactory-experimental

lets go there

[violet glen]

This whole setup is flat on one level, but I have a slight incline on the outputs, 1~2m up

[fluid sapphire]

post in #1038092680493801533 instead

in-line buffers will not solve anything

[reef basin]

yeah, that's a bad idea. Never do that

[violet glen]

The small buffer has solved it at least. But I feel like only temporarily. Cause it's filling up more and more.
It's not "in between", it's just on the output line of the fuel

[fluid sapphire]

it will not solve anything, only delay problems

[violet glen]

it just seems like the fuel doesn't make it to the gens fast enough, by a very small bit

[reef basin]

buffers only hide issues

[scenic mirage]

feed from above, dont use junctions at an angle. lmk if that helps

[reef basin]

and make the #1038092680493801533 post with images 🙂

[violet glen]

Everything is one one level on the fuel line, no level difference

[scenic mirage]

noo use #satisfactory-experimental!

[reef basin]

what if they aren't on experimental?

(and #1038092680493801533 is way better place for it)

[violet glen]

Pretty sure that was not a serious remark ;)

[scenic mirage]

lmao the other dude said to go there bc you can upload images there lmao

[atomic venture]

are manifolds actually infinite? cause like at some point surely the manifold has to be resupplying machines faster than it can resupply machines at the end

[mystic urchin]

I wish there were other variants of ramps than just 4m of the frame beams

[ornate saffron]

manifolds will work as long as your belts support the part through put.

[mild finch]

#screenshots message hmmm, i would've thought you would only build inside @hearty flame

[ornate saffron]

top belt speed is 1200/min so if your manifold uses 1200/min parts per minute or less it can handle it

[mild finch]

transport every ressource of the game to a point, and process them, and sink that

[ornate saffron]

do a sink one of every ore speed run

[true mulch]

the wiki is currently down due to problems with the platform

they're having some problems with the database

sadly nothing we can do on our part, if needed then the web archive or fandom serve as backups

[reef basin]

use codex in Tools or ingame instead for now

[leaden turret]

don't recommend fandom as backup 😛

[true mulch]

true that for recipes either Tools or SCIM's codex do the job

[reef basin]

just checked and one page loaded for me 🤔

[true mulch]

now it gets stuck loading instead of throwing 502 right away

[reef basin]

it's very slow for me

[violet glen]

If I had to guess, it's getting scraped by a swarm of bots

[reef basin]

I'd say it's being DDOSed by all the people refreshing to see if it's already up

[fluid sapphire]

time to save a local copy

[true mulch]

the initial cause is a botched MySQL update

[violet glen]

hm, that'd also do it

[remote marsh]

what's the easiest way to make adaptive controle unit?

[reef basin]

that heavily depends on how do you define "easiest" (and probably every person will have different idea of what easiest means)

[remote marsh]

the least amount of like 50 constructers

a small factory

[reef basin]

so, least buildings? you want recipes with high output per minute then

[remote marsh]

yh

[next ivy]

how do you weigh speed and machine count

[clear aspen]

Wsp chat

[reef basin]

we're not chat, this isn't twitch

[clear aspen]

Then hello

Idk I always say that

[remote marsh]

no we are PIONEERS

[elder oracle]

we pioneered

[ancient heron]

How the fck can you easily automate limestone bro

[fluid sapphire]

put a miner on a node - attach conveyor belt - done

[ancient heron]

Already done that but it's slow as hell

[remote marsh]

make more

[fluid sapphire]

what belts do you have?

[clear aspen]

WE PIONEER BEYOND THE PIONEER WE WERE A MINUTE BEFORE! LITTLE BY LITTLE, WE AUTOMATE A BIT FURTHER WITH EACH MACHINE! THATS HOW A FACTORY WORKS

[ancient heron]

Mk 1 but I've got mk 2 unlocked but I don't have assemblers set up yet

[fluid sapphire]

how much is the miner outputting?

[clear aspen]

Does anyone get the reference?

[fluid sapphire]

idk, how old is it

[clear aspen]

Around 2007 give or take

It’s Gurren laggan “we evolve” speech

[real shale]

@clear aspen give me an NPP fact

[reef basin]

NPP fact: NPP stands for nuclear power plant

[supple canopy]

I can access a few pages but my guess is they were stored in browser cache?

[reef basin]

there's also wiki cache and server cache... but yeah may just be having issues or down completely

[clear aspen]

#off-topic-general message

[supple canopy]

the SCIM was DDOSed a few days ago too, what is it like some politician afraid of the satisfactory lobby or smth??

[reef basin]

they didn't get Tools yet, they can try, but I'm ready

[atomic venture]

i am making a megaproject where i want to connect every vein in the dune desert. assuming every node here is pure, how many freight carts should i use?

[clear aspen]

More than one

[atomic venture]

i need like a general amount

[leaden turret]

is currently up

still locked tho

[atomic venture]

im using mk 2 miners but will upgrade eventually so expect like outputs of 1200 maybe

[clear aspen]

Idk then

[supple canopy]

depends on where you want to haul all that. Just guessing, around 400

[white dawn]

Freight car throughput is dependent on two factors: stack size + round-trip time. Until you know the exact round-trip time you won't know what throughput the freight cars are capable of, and thus you won't know how much you'll need for the specific route

[fluid sapphire]

figuring all that out sounds like a hell of an exercise

[white dawn]

You can, of course, plug in numbers based on N freight cars, to find out the maximum round-trip time that many cars can handle, for the given throughput you want

Yeah, IMO it's nearly always not worth doing the math. Just vibe your initial freight car count and then adjust if you need to, once you can see the route running

[atomic venture]

ok

[white dawn]

However, the equations you can use, should you want to anyway, can be found here: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput

[worn oar]

Are there any tips for actually getting conveyor floor holes to read blue or am I doomed to have slightly clipping holes in all my floors?

[true mulch]

some structures claim they're clipping when they're not and vice versa

I wouldn't care about the hologram if it looks fine when built

[fluid sapphire]

i thought the floor holes always clipped and it was just whatever

doubt it, you have barely just started

more to discover

the early game is kinda nostalgic looking back

[atomic venture]

alternatively, is it a good idea to use a long line of conveyor belts?

but it would crush my dreams of train mania

[worn oar]

I'm still figuring out how to play this game after 275 hours 😭

[wheat musk]

REAL

[fluid sapphire]

1300 hours and i still discover 8 months later that i didnt build something so it works properly

[reef saddle]

Am I able to talk Mod issues in this chat?

[reef basin]

mods are better discussed in modding server

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @reef basin

[white dawn]

In the end, however you handle logistics is up to you. :) Personally I'm quite fond of trains, and like seeing a busy train system

There's definitely a learning curve to building them, though

[turbid tangle]

it was already on my eventually™ plans list, I can see people not wanting their achievements affected by a vastly different modpack or custom level for example

[scarlet maple]

when will the game be free?

[fluid sapphire]

most likely never?

[leaden turret]

when you get a job at CSS https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/7113819-senior-programmer

[atomic venture]

dont think that was ever the plan

[scarlet maple]

can someone gift me the game?

[hard stump]

You know just thought of this the next update we need railroad crossing signals for trucks and trains

[tall lantern]

against the #rules to beg

[leaden turret]

#rules

[scarlet maple]

mb didnt know

[tall lantern]

should probably read them before anything else then...

[leaden turret]

you had to agree to the rules to join the server

[scarlet maple]

i never read the rules, they are boring and its to much letters for me

[leaden turret]

go read them now then

[tall lantern]

ah so you're just awaiting a ban, fair enough

[fluid sapphire]

does it ever work? begging i mean

[scarlet maple]

who will ban me ??

[leaden turret]

the mods

[tall lantern]

any of the people with nice colourful (non-blue) names

[scarlet maple]

ok

[tall lantern]

in the meantime I'd suggest looking for either odd jobs around your local area, or an actual job

age-dependent of course

then you can buy the game like everyone else and become a true pioneer

[scarlet maple]

i was waiting for a discount on the game but never, will be there a discount one time?

[tall lantern]

30% discounts are frequent

[scarlet maple]

i dont know how to program

[leaden turret]

@tall lantern ☝️

[tall lantern]

free, not so much

[scarlet maple]

ok

[small crypt]

is there a list somewhere of every single item used in building

[tall lantern]

(on steam at least, I forget consoles exist)

[leaden turret]

the wiki

[tall lantern]

eww working in an office, no thanks. remote ftw

[small crypt]

which page? nothing on the uploader page

[scarlet maple]

can someone gift me 20 euros on steam?

[leaden turret]

CSS office has:

• gym
• kitchen
• game room
• fluid truck delivering julmust

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144>

[tall lantern]

• a looooooong commute

[scarlet maple]

im not begging for the game

calm down

[reef basin]

well, you shouldn't do that either

[tall lantern]

can someone gift this guy a ban? I'm also not begging for the game so must be fine 😉

[scarlet maple]

i mean, there is no rule about that

[reef basin]

there's common sense about that

[scarlet maple]

cmon man

[small crypt]

bro was born without the ability to feel embarassed

[leaden turret]

• swedish healthcare

[small crypt]

get a job and work for 30 minutes

[scarlet maple]

if the rules dont say it there is no rule about that

and i have frree will

[tall lantern]

so do the mods mind

[reef basin]

We may still take action if something you do is not explicitly in the rules, or if it's in a grey area.

[leaden turret]

freedom of will does not mean freedom of consequence

[tall lantern]

i assume xkcd links don't work in here

[scarlet maple]

gng i just wanted the game💔
its seems cool

[tall lantern]

but y'all know the one I'm thinking of

[reef basin]

we all earned it 🙂

[leaden turret]

which number?

[scarlet maple]

not everyone is rich

[tall lantern]

1357

[small crypt]

20 dollar rich

[reef basin]

sure, but unfortunately that means that not everyone can get the game

[scarlet maple]

the game could be less euros, instead of 38,99 it could be 10 or 15 euros

[tall lantern]

British healthcare is also free... eventually

[small crypt]

pfp checks out

[reef basin]

it could also be free. But devs need to eat

[scarlet maple]

its to expensive

[tall lantern]

for you

[scarlet maple]

i think they already got a lot of money

[tall lantern]

there's no point complaining in here about the price, the time and energy could be spent elsewhere, say looking for a way to get that cash money

[reef basin]

it's 6 years in EA+release, a few years even before that. Price tag matches effort put into it. It could go 60 euro and still be worth

[tall lantern]

it's also very good value for time

[ornate saffron]

naw they need more, Im a firm believer thgat this game is a quality product and they deserve fiar pay for there work

[leaden turret]

problem: can't afford game
solution 1: don't get game
solution 2: earn money for game

[reef basin]

sure, go ask devs for free copies because they are rich enough already

this really needs <@&387163995947270144>

[small crypt]

we need a no trolling rule

[scarlet maple]

gng what

[leaden turret]

that would result in the majority of CSS being banned from the server

[ornate saffron]

we do. see the first bullet point

[scarlet maple]

how am i supposed to get money, i cant work im not a man

[leaden turret]

women can work too

[reef basin]

honestly... not our problem

[tall lantern]

nonsequitor ahoy

[ornate saffron]

I paid for my opwn ps1 when i was 11

[small crypt]

just stop feeding him

[leaden turret]

i cant work im not a lasagne

[ornate saffron]

im a lala, i cant help it

[small crypt]

let <@&387163995947270144> clean up when they get here

i just got into a flow state and went out and got like 80 mercer spheres, and some sloops, i found this one spot where i could see like 5 of them in plain sight, that was great

[tall lantern]

consume

[small crypt]

your waves lap at our shores

[unkempt blade]

which of the spheres is your favorite one?

[tall lantern]

fred

[sturdy oasis]

Hey, I have a train setup wit a 600/min mk5 belt input and the same belt as output but there come only 540

[reef basin]

did you put buffers on your platforms?

[sturdy oasis]

industrials on in and out

[tall lantern]

and can your train actually roundtrip fast enough for the amount you're moving?

[reef basin]

connected with both inputs?

[small crypt]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Building_materials <- found it

[unkempt blade]

that route just needs a second train

[reef basin]

if yes, add another train

[sturdy oasis]

oh thanks i will try

[serene jolt]

Do i need pipeline pumps for oil?

[reef basin]

only if you go up

[serene jolt]

ok

[small crypt]

yeah my brain cant brain when it comes to vehicles, like theres 2 buffers and a gap there and like idk throughput stuff, they say a well built train just extends the exact throughput of your belts but i dont trust it

[tall lantern]

provided its round trip time is short enough

[unkempt blade]

it's generally just give them a little time to average out + add more vehicles if throughput is still low unless you're moving really really big numbers

[weary condor]

More trains is never the wrong answer

[small crypt]

do you do 1 train per item

[tall lantern]

it can be if the problem is the load/unload pause 😛

[unkempt blade]

I do a single item per car but multiple items in a good number of the trains

[weary condor]

More train… cars!

[fluid sapphire]

one train per node 🧠

[unkempt blade]

you can do more than one item in a car if the total throughput math works for all items but it's usually more of a pain than it's worth

[small crypt]

i take back every doubt i ever had about dimensional depots

[fluid sapphire]

what doubt could you have had 😄

[small crypt]

i just didnt think they would be that big a deal

[fluid sapphire]

tool that almost entirely eliminates inventory management> not a big deal

[small crypt]

the comfort is felt immediately

[fluid sapphire]

multiple uploaders per item 🤯 🧠

[tall lantern]

they were a very nice addition in 1.0

[lavish inlet]

My god im finally done with my nuclear power plant, after 50 hours holy shit i never want to do this again

[slim frost]

but you will

[storm crow]

guys my calculation for npp was wrong i tried making fuel rods enough for 12 reactors but i miss caculated it and i can supply 120 reactors

[lavish inlet]

I got another 33 reactors to build now that i have the power headroom, but i gotta work on something else for awhile, ive been 100% focussed on this endeavour

[earnest bridge]

??? How

[storm crow]

i was using ai for the calculation

[small crypt]

the 0

[small crypt]

dude...come on

[storm crow]

lets say that time it made mistakes

[tall lantern]

if only AI could actually do math

[lavish inlet]

Time to build it then

[storm crow]

ee

[tall lantern]

if you're relying on AI to do your calcs you, uh, may want to doublecheck it

[coarse shadow]

why do the signals at my In-Line Station not work?

[tall lantern]

what error do they give

[coarse shadow]

loops into itself

[tall lantern]

well there's your hint

hard to give more detailed solution with zero knowledge of the setup, if you can't figure it out you'll want a #1038092680493801533 post with screenshots and what you're trying to achieve

[coarse shadow]

this is my first time with signals after 400 hours and still no clue how to use them correctly

[fiery pewter]

Same

[tall lantern]

block signals break track up into blocks, one train allowed in a block at a time. tracks too close may be considered a single block, common issue

path signals are a lil more complicated (not much), but also broadly unnecessary

at least, as long as you're doing single-directional rails

and if you've opted into bidirectional rails have fun, they're a right pain to signal

[worn oar]

I feel genuinely bad for people who ask chatbots how to play this game. Not only is your brain atrophying to dust, but you don't even get to do the most fun part of the game which is finding problems and then planning and implementing the solutions

[tall lantern]

i think AI's tendency to just flat out "lie" (as if they had agency) is probably worse, cus not only is that all true, but you don't even get correct answers out at the end

[small crypt]

the worst thing about AI is the type of person it creates and the fact that they're allowed to speak

if they can figure out how

[leaden turret]

dunking on clankers is #off-topic-general

[tall lantern]

unless it's ADA

LLMADA

[small crypt]

ada and corrupted ada dialogue is really neat

[leaden turret]

I don't think you'd be safe in your factory if she heard you call her a clanker

[tall lantern]

pfft, what's she gonna do about it

[leaden turret]

orbital strike new crash site

[tall lantern]

lol fair

but we can just reSPWN

no factory damage mechanic

[small crypt]

Noted. I have logged your creative vocabulary under ‘biological emotional outbursts’. Would you like me to schedule a reminder for when your power runs out next?

[leaden turret]

not if ADA is orchestrating your reSPWN

[small crypt]

reminds me of that game where like the main bad guy is in charge of the respawn machines but he keeps letting you respawn, forgot what it was

something from my teens

[leaden turret]

hardspace ship breaker

[frail minnow]

love this game

[storm crow]

who wanna see my factory

[tall lantern]

people who look at #screenshots

[leaden turret]

or #design-and-architecture

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots message any tips to make manufactor belts better?

[ornate saffron]

looks pretty good.

a logistics floor below can move some to a under side.

you also done have to attached the splitters to the lifts you can place the away from the lift

[tall plover]

@fringe shadow Platform Expansion Program Enthusiast?

[fringe shadow]

yess

[tall plover]

playing aswell

very good mod, looks like im a bit further ahead

if u have questions lmk

[earnest oak]

hey anyone who knows about trains able to help me??

[fringe shadow]

ur design looks but i dont really like it 😄 still ty

[ornate saffron]

just food for thought

[fringe shadow]

playing it the 2nd time now all good, but ill remember that

[tall plover]

oh nice

first time for me, but ill go further than just completing it lol

currently working on 400 biochemical sculptors per min lol

my previous setup produced 3 Assembly director system per min

so now its 33x more

[atomic venture]

is it possible to replace blueprints

cause what if i wanna switch to mk6 belts in the future

[ornate saffron]

youll have to do it manually

[atomic venture]

:(

[iron musk]

guys i have a weird issue

whenever i die from uranium poisoning my game crashes but when i die normally to a spider or from fall damage i die normally

[atomic venture]

maybe dont do that then

[storm crow]

guys how do i use the bin

[earnest oak]

Anyone available to heko me with trains in questiona and help

[iron musk]

but i love inhaling toxic materials

[tall plover]

inhaling is safe, just not the radiation

[iron musk]

makes sense

ill do that

[wheat reef]

I should hop back on satisfactory

And I also must start using transport not just for a joke

[rigid wedge]

Good morning pioneers

[small crypt]

Good evening lush baal

[wheat reef]

Good night everyone, tomorrow I'm hoping back into the game

Stand ready for my questions, Pioneers

[primal obsidian]

ok

yay

[feral vector]

gas isn't too much of a hassle to transport or what?

idk if I should build blenders for cooling systems right next to the nitrogen gas (and belt over some aluminum sheets + copper sheets + rubber) or just pipe the gas to near my aluminum factory

[reef basin]

generally fluids are harder to transport than solids

[feral vector]

yeah I have just never used gas before maybe that's a bit easier? and it would be a downhill trip 🤔

I am woefully unprepared for phase 4 lol the only thing I've ever set up logistics for is a bit of rubber and plastic, not used to moving things around. I think I have a plan to at least get turbo motors automated, with extra radio control units and cooling systems for storage

[unborn moss]

Nitrogen is also special in that 4 nitrogen fits in 1 container if you do packaged.

[rugged burrow]

Anyone have an idea on 1.2 full release?

[feral vector]

hmm I kinda forgot about packaging stuff, I only use that for diluted packaged fuel

[feral vector]

soon TM

[rugged burrow]

🥲

[unborn moss]

I doubt even CSS knows 100% yet.

[feral vector]

using steel screws isn't much less efficient than using steel rods and then crafting screws from those right? I'm really lazy less constructors sounds better

[wary fiber]

who still remembers the "HUB Parts" item

[ornate saffron]

Do what makes you happy. There's lots of respirces

[ornate saffron]

Me unfortunately

[wary fiber]

one of my worlds still have 2 of them

[clever pier]

I don't really care about "efficiency" because there is way more coal and iron ore than you need on the map. steel screws reduces the amount of machines needed in a chain so I use it

[feral vector]

alright that's what I was thinking

unless it like... let me use one less node or something

[wary fiber]

if you look in screenshots i posted the image

[clever pier]

if I was playing with x100 elevator parts in the 1.2 version then maybe I worry about if I'm using all the resources efficiently

[wary fiber]

doing the match currently

[wary fiber]

steel screws will get you more but more machines then cast witch is 7 (same as normal steel screws) (it was all 60 iron ore per/m limit the

normal steel screw was 780 per/m cast screw was 240 (iron was 60per/m for both steel needs coal its the same rate as iron

[ornate saffron]

The question was steel rod.

To screw

[wary fiber]

it cost more machines 2 foundrys at 66 2/3% and 29 constructor (thats total for steel rod

vs cast screws witch is 2 smelters 5 constructor at 96%

and yes i did that in modeler

[ornate saffron]

60 ingots turn into 960 screws via steel rods

The trade of is space and power

60 ingots turn into 780
screws via steel screws.

This method costs less power and space but you get less output

[wary fiber]

also idk if i should be playing at ultra with a 2060s with Gl

[ornate saffron]

Change settings until you have acceptable gameplay

[wary fiber]

am getting 60fps

in early and sometimes late game

gpu just a bit warm at 86c XD

yes it does have better cooling then my cpu somehow

[weary condor]

playing 100x dw bout it, not worth effort

[civic ore]

I need some logistical help if anyone here is good at it

I’ve got 1200 steel ingots I want turning to steel beams via molded beam alt recipe

One foundry uses 120, so that’s 10 foundry’s. The issue I’m having is figuring out how to divide my 4 tier three belts (and a 5th supplying 135) neatly so that there’s no wastage of the ingots

[weary condor]

manifold, periodically inject ingots

[civic ore]

How do you know where to inject? Or should I just set up all 10 with one and add it where it appears to slow?

[weary condor]

inject based off vibes

[dense violet]

do not listen to this person

[atomic venture]

i just had an idea for a train, basically dedicate one half of the freight cars for unloading, and the other half for loading, and you swap the order of the two sides for each delivery, and then id pair that with another trainline just to pick up the unloaded materials and move them to the main base

[dense violet]

how many belts with how many ingots do yo uhave

[weary condor]

if you really wanna get fancy ye you could set up with one and decide where to add

[civic ore]

4 belts with 270 and one with 135

[weary condor]

at least thats just how I'd do it

[dense violet]

clock your foundries to use exactly that on each belt

done

[weary condor]

can they clock to 270?

[dense violet]

clocking solves 99% of yoru logistic issues before they happen

you can clock any amount , just have the machines for it

[civic ore]

You know what I’d disregarded that due to not wanting to use Aton of electric but mygod that is so much easier

Thank you guys I don’t even need to do any maths I lowkey forgot I could do that

[dense violet]

you can under clock and use less if you want, and don't need shards

[weary condor]

you ccan always build more power gens

[south sinew]

except if they're biomass where more power equals more pain

[civic ore]

I’m at a awkward point where Im waiting to complete phase 2 of space elevator so I’m stuck with coal and ive used all the coal deposits in like 1500 meter radius (ignoring the coal for the steel)

[wary fiber]

fuel power

[weary condor]

in what world is someone using biomass when theyve progressed up to mk3 belts

[dense violet]

are you in the grassy fields?

[civic ore]

Yeah I’m gonna do this. Makes the whole thing piss easy. Feel stupid for not just doing it now lmao

[civic ore]

Nah dune sea

[weary condor]

lmao happens

[dense violet]

SE should be like 4 nodes of coal, with mk3 belts and over clocking you shoudl be able to do like 64 coal gens, gets you to tier 7 easily

[tawny pagoda]

hello am new too this game i would like learn more an have satisfactory friends

[dense violet]

besides, over clockign doesn't actually take much power
if you fully over clock a factory to 250% you only use 34% more power

[weary condor]

extra power use from overclocking is negligible frfr

[civic ore]

Oh I’ve completely maximised all that coal for power already. I’m at 3700 MW but I’m using 2500 with max cons at 4000 so I’m worried of overstressing it

[weary condor]

lowkey if you're riding the line on power usage that heavily you should be building more power infrastructure imo

[dense violet]

better go burn more coal https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1490900154553995385/image.png?ex=69d90838&is=69d7b6b8&hm=23b0b78fef5dea87ebd5a2691da90dd9ff4529b2c07617c08d2045530504c213&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[dense violet]

the coase of DD has lots of coal

[wary fiber]

me and a friend wanted to know how much fuel power we can get from the oil ilands withould being limited by any other rescores but oil and uh 296.3 fuel gen fully overclocked with ionized makes 185,185,19MW

[south sinew]

it makes more without ionized

[wary fiber]

it doesnt

[dense violet]

ionized fuel is power negative

[south sinew]

the machines to make ionized cost more to run than the extra power you gain from it

[dense violet]

you're forgetting the energy COST in making it

[wary fiber]

yeah am not counting that part

[dense violet]

you're not counting you'll have actual less energy to use?

[civic ore]

I wish I could post a pic to show you lmao. I’ve got like 50 in a straight line there

[latent prawn]

you end up better off with spamming out blended turbo->rocket fuel. ion fuel is very intensive on coal (time crystal). when you make it, you're generally trying to offset the cost of other things and grab some extra power as a bonus

[dense violet]

literally every otehr channel lets you have images

[dense violet]

but 1 line sounds awkward

[civic ore]

I’m just tryna rush phase 2 hoping the next tiers it will unlock will give me a better power source so I don’t have to keep coming back and piping in even more coal

[civic ore]

I’m new lmao my bad

[dense violet]

eh, I use coal until until phase 4

[latent prawn]

does that calculus factor in feeding the byproduct compacted coal back into more power?

[dense violet]

afaik yes

the compacted coal doesn't cost much to make anyway

only a few assemblers

[wary fiber]

only like 33.78 compacted coal for rocketfuel

[latent prawn]

yeah, the thing about it is it rasies the available sulfur you can use for power

[civic ore]

That’s where I’m at now, but I can really feel the bottleneck now. I need something better then coal after this versatile framework factory is done

[wary fiber]

844.45 coal and sulfer input with 888.89 nitrogen gas

[dense violet]

you should have access to fuel power

[latent prawn]

ion fuel is as big of a project as nuclear.

[civic ore]

At lvl 5 or right now?

[wary fiber]

the fuel power we where doing was about as bigger then 4 reactor setup

i think

[latent prawn]

as far as i can tell, what the real use for ion fuel is is to be able to sink the synth power shards into something so that you can make surplus dark matter residue. Maybe i haven't run the numbers for it at the sweet spot yet, but from what i've mathed out, making more AI expansion servers is a better bang for the buck

[dense violet]

and that's phase 3 btw

[civic ore]

Pls don’t say I have a whole nother phase of the space elevator before I get off coal

[dense violet]

if you're at tier 5 you have fuel
but I usually use coal until tier 7

[latent prawn]

what actually does seem rather compelling is getting 10 apa's fueled for 300% power from what you are making. far less resources needed.

[latent prawn]

i'm doing a 5x power run atm, and finding the yield on the base yellow fuel recipe where its at before getting to the stupid huge dilluted & turbofuel build stage

plenty of coal power along side that, but the yield on base fuel is percent-wise much greater

[dense violet]

yeah one of the reasons I thought x power was stupid.
it's very easy to use up all the power in creating the power

[latent prawn]

part of the chalenge with it!

[civic ore]

Damn so sounds like my best bet once this power runs out is just setting up another fat coal plant in a new coal depot area. I’m so lucky I got iron pipes I’d have no idea how to balance coal for power vs coal for steel without it

[pliant jewel]

anyone knows how to fix my shop. i added 3 thinks into my cart before updating and the 3 things is gone from the shop. cannot purchase doesnt exist in my build menu.

[latent prawn]

really it isn't horrible, but you do have to math out whether a build is worth it

[dense violet]

just burn distant coal.
iron pipe really sucks for iron

[civic ore]

Okay I will going forward. This is a weird game where everyone says you’ve basically got unlimited resources but it does NOT feel like that when you are actually playing. Maybe because I haven’t ventured much further then the top right of the map yet

[dense violet]

go out like 2km and burn all the coal there.
use nearby coal for steel. Much more convenient

doesn't mater if power is far away, just 1 cable brings it in

[civic ore]

Well there’s two annoying problems I had sorted!

Brilliant thank you very much. I’m gonna get to implementing the advice you’ve given. If not for the clock speed I’d probably still be trying to mentally figure out where to inject them 😩😭

[wise junco]

hewwo

[dense violet]

look, injection manifolds ARE a thing... but clockign is so much simpler and is easier to design around
clocking is THE main logistic tool in the game.
use it everywhere

clock groups of machines to output EXACTLY what you need for a section of the next process

[small crypt]

i found a thing that says its crude oil shooting out of the ground, i hover it, says crude oil but it's not a node, what is it?

[latent prawn]

less so if you're using iron alloy

[small crypt]

it's got a few normal and pure nodes around it

[latent prawn]

its a resource well. the fracking machine is unlocked in phase 4

[small crypt]

ohhh i see

[latent prawn]

water, oil and nitrogen are available from different wells. except for the nitrogen, they're placed in convenient spots to support aluminum and nuclear late game builds

the nitro wells are placed inconveniently as far away from each other to make drones useful

[dense violet]

going all the trouble for alloy but not just steel? very silly

[wise junco]

you silly

[latent prawn]

yeah,if you are building ficsonium nuclear, the coal needed for it gets rather tight, so things like that become important

[tired axle]

Is there a way to automatically flush fluid buffers?

[latent prawn]

connect them to a consuming machine & wait 😉

[meager fern]

aside from what moonchild said, no

[tired axle]

🙁
what are you guys doing with that purple oil resedue thingy

[mystic pendant]

drink it

[tired axle]

Smart

[ornate saffron]

Make fuel with it

[latent prawn]

initially, your best option is to turn it into coke and burn that in generators. alternate recipes make it like liquid gold for power and plastic/rubber when you find them.

my first oil build satisfies the one-off needs with it of making smokeless powder, sometimes some heavy turbofuel and packaged fuel, but the bulk of it just gets disposed of by making it into coke which is really rather useful stuff between having another coal power plant and using it as vehicle fuel

[rigid wedge]

Do you guys tend to centralize everything that’s goin into a dimensional depot or just have them in groups or randomly sitting somewhere on the map?

[worn oar]

Building vertically is so obnoxious damn

Would have been done with this an hour ago if I just threw everything on the ground

[latent prawn]

before them, building a centralized mall was a project that made sense to do, but since their addition, i've just been hanging a depot with storage off of production lines before the goods get transported

[ornate saffron]

I place them where they part is made.

Often at the end of a production line ill have a smart splitter set to any going to a industrial storageand overflow to a sink.

Then the industrial storage feeds a depot

[rigid wedge]

Can they keep up with whatever ur building when maxed out?

[ornate saffron]

If not ill make another production line and another depot.

Atm I have 1000 concrete a minute feeding 7 depots

[rigid wedge]

You can have multiple depots per resource?

I overseen that part

[ornate saffron]

Yup.

After research there is 201 spheres.

Divide them up any way you wish

201

[rigid wedge]

Ty

[crisp vine]

Hey random question after scrolling through the discord and seeing everyones incredible builds and designs.
I'm 40 hours in no where near phase 2 and lacking half of the resources I need to automate... Now all of my "factory" is on foundations but I need to bring it up in height to actually scale it.

So would it be better to build one Big flat factory or be cool and design something vertical for better practical use later (including logic floors ofc)?

[worn oar]

You are prematurely optimizing. In phase 1 you don't even have good tools or thoroughput to do much vertical

There's no need to scale right now

[ornate saffron]

Just learn the game and work towards the tier and phase goals.

Decor comes laters

[crisp vine]

I mean I have steel production up, coal power down making somewhere around 1,250 MWH (this is my second play but I didn't get far with the other before life got busy so I know the mechanics and how 80% of things function at least)

[jaunty jewel]

MWH != MW

[crisp vine]

ah yes forgot 😭

[jaunty jewel]

for another answer to your question, if you want a good looking factory i wouldnt built completely flat, but you dont have to prioritise how your factory looks

theres a non-zero chance youll want to rebuild a factory entirely because of new optimizations you unlock (e.g higher belt tier or new alt recipe)

[worn oar]

You can also just make big orange boxes or wafers everywhere, there isn't a recipe you have to follow to build vertically when you finally get to that

[jaunty jewel]

also yeah expanding vertically is usually the way to go

[worn oar]

I like machines on the bare ground -> flat foundation factories -> wafers -> orange boxes -> not sure haven't tried to build something pretty yet

[crisp vine]

I mean I don't exactly want to prioritise how my factory looks but I'm at that point where I want something else other than focusing on how fast is my production?, how do I scale this into X part? etc so I was thinking with all my god forsaken sink point I might aswell send it into a "smaller" build

[west jackal]

will overflow handle any undefined and overflow?

like heat sinks and bottles on one belt, heat sinks forward, bottles and heatsink overflow to the right

nvm. i figured it out

[white dawn]

Yep, Overflow implicitly includes "any undefined"

[soft halo]

returning player here, what are the go to/what do u recommend for the aluminum production chain recipes?
when i last played i recall pure aluminum ingot, aluminum scrap or electrode, and sloppy alumina being the go to, any changes or notes/recommendations?
also is the alternate recipes for the casings recommended? (the one that uses copper)

[timber willow]

Think pure ingot, electrode, and sloppy are still the best

[gaunt crypt]

all-clad casings is really dependent on what casing using recipes you're using and how you're distributing casings to them (on site production or shipping them in somehow). It saves you some aluminum at the cost of some copper. It's unlikely that you're actually using all the copper or bauxite in the world.

[soft halo]

alright good to know ill keep that in mind then!

[white dawn]

There's various chains that are great depending on circumstance. It really depends on what exactly you're trying to do

[soft halo]

thank you!

[white dawn]

A lot of folks like Pure Aluminum Ingot because it lets you avoid quartz, but that means less bauxite efficiency

[gaunt crypt]

by the strict measure of "most efficient allocation of resources" yeah they're probably better

[white dawn]

electrode+sloppy has great yields so long as you're willing to spend oil, which you may not want to do

On my last playthrough I'd used four different aluminum chains throughout. The "best" one will vary depending on your situation

[gaunt crypt]

but logistically they're more work and if you've chosen alternates that don't use a lot of casings you probably don't need so many casings to see a huge benefit from that efficiency

[timber willow]

I mean that I would guess depends where they have aluminum setup since location is definitely a factor in recipes like aluminum and all that

[soft halo]

i might do a bit of both just so im not using a ton of oil or coal to balance it out, i also like saving quartz because im big on the quartz alternate recipes for like everything else lol so ill prly stick with the one that uses no quartz even if it is less yeilds

[gaunt crypt]

I generally feel like sloppy is "best" until you exhaust whatever pure and possibly normal bauxite nodes are logistically convenient

when your needs are about to force you to add another bauxite node that is gonna require a signifigant logistical problem, its possible you're just better off dealing with the logistics of one of the higher yield recs instead

sloppy+pure that is

[timber willow]

I mean on vanilla though on a cliff there are two pure bauxite on the cliffs near the I think the west Coast, I mean yes not the best placement but definitely a lot of potential depending on of course the logistics you mentioned

[gaunt crypt]

yeah how you are handling logistcs affects a lot of things

[soft halo]

im just gonna go nuts and use like 3/4 the bauxite nodes right away so i dont gotta revisit it hopefully at all at the very least not for a long time, might go out of my way to purposly use the ones that are logistically hard to deal with first so if i do need to revisit it the ones left will be pretty easy to get going

[timber willow]

Oh no argument there but that is why I said locations for certain factories do matter

[gaunt crypt]

if you've already got a functional world spanning train network you're gonna favor different recipes than if you have drag belts or new rails across half the planet to tap another node

[soft halo]

fair, one more question just for factory design inspiration and vibe, when you guys think of aluminum what is the first color that comes to mind? (aside from the actual color of aluminum)

[gaunt crypt]

And even when I had a functional world spanning train network in my last playthrough I still at one point ran a bauxite belt from the titan forest up the mountain into the bamboo forest that I could hook directly into my existing aluminum production rather than involve the trains just because the route they were gonna have to take wasn't a particularly efficient one with how I was laid out

for trains I use a very light metallic blue/white or light metallic grey/white if that's what you're getting at

[soft halo]

i meant more for factory accents and just general vibe but trains factor into that too so that works!

[gaunt crypt]

yeah i use the same basic colors for my aluminum smelters. Usually do something else for the bauxite part but not married to any one scheme there

[ornate saffron]

I generally dont decorate until many hours after its built. I llgo build another facility entirely then come back.

[gaunt crypt]

for the most part I only color trains until I'm in the post elevator phase of the game

[ornate saffron]

Allowing time for any hiccups to show and for me to troubleshoot. And think of how I want to decorate

[gaunt crypt]

everything is getting slapped down, torn up and rebuilt far too often to go deep on aesthetics before then.

color coding the trains by cargo just makes eyeballing what the heck is going on on the rails so much easier

[timber willow]

sad to say but until console players get 1.2 we are limited to semi default colors we cant exactly make the super crazy colors .. yet but to answer i do similar to @gaunt crypt do silver accents on a dark grey not metallic shiny but matte best way to say it

[gaunt crypt]

particularly in my last run where I was going in hard on that particular brand of self torture that is multi item stations

[soft halo]

fair, i like the idea so i shall keep it in mind fs when building

opinions of fluid trains and trucks? from what i recall back when i played before 1.0 fluid trains were pretty bad at least

[gaunt crypt]

if your rails/stations are well designed with good signaling, adequate buffers, etc the problems of fluid trains are highly exaggerated

nitrous compresses well enough to be worth package/ship/unpackage just for the sheer additional throughput you can get but otherwise I just use fluid trains unless I specifically need the packaged version at the destination

trucks on the other hand... well I haven't played experimental yet but hopefully the rework is as good as advertised

I have never set up trucks for anything and not ended up wishing I did it some other way by the time I was done honestly

[soft halo]

oh im playing in experimental i know they added fluid trucks and overhauled pathing is there something else of note theyve done?

[gaunt crypt]

the old pathing is maddening. if they've megaimproved that I may try them again

fluid trucks would make that much easier to consider as well

[ornate saffron]

Increased the volume of fluid stations

[soft halo]

ive been going out of my way to use trucks whenever possible because of the changes and from what ive experienced so far its a 11/10 change, it makes them much easier to use and far more reliable

[gaunt crypt]

if you've got a base in a place like the grassy plains and you want to bring in a oil or fuel in 1.1 its... an experience

[dense violet]

why? there's an easy oil field to the NW

[gaunt crypt]

that's a comically long pipeline or rail on your first playthrough

I actually ran the pipeline on my first playthrough. And that only after first trying to run it from the crater (that's the node I found first). Never. Again.

But if the pathing is as good as advertised in 1.2 I could imagine running trucks

They should do decent running up and down the coast with minimal built up road infrastructure

[ornate saffron]

I ran a 2km pipe for my nitrogen the other day lol

[gaunt crypt]

A long nitro pipeline is honestly less of a headache than a fluid.

still has lots of ways to bite you if you aren't careful of course

I had one where I had a train picking it up down on the beach on the west coast with it being piped down from the mountains. 4 parallel lines running almost straight down bringing the total output of the well. That was fun to build.

[ornate saffron]

For sure, I've done some silly things with pipes and have gotten away with .ore then I should over the years

[gaunt crypt]

As long as you've got the pressure enough valves will fix anything with gasses really

That playthrough was insane though... I was grinding 80 warp drives a minute when my potato just couldn't take it anymore

[tribal shell]

How do I have 50 hours in this game I feel like I know absolutely nothing

[weary condor]

that means you're doin it right

frfr

[gaunt crypt]

Don't worry. Once you finish the tutorial it makes a lot more sense.

[tribal shell]

"We got tricked into doing a 100 hour tutorial" - The Worst Guide To Satisfactory (iykyk)

[weary condor]

speedrun? :)

[tribal shell]

You know you have a good game when 100 hours is considered speedrunning

[grand charm]

90 hours and still in phase 3 and finally optimized 22.5 modular frames p/m. now to do the rest

[gaunt crypt]

I was around 50 hours in the first time I restarted after realizing just how heavy the combined weight of all the boneheaded things I'd done up till that point was becoming.

[tribal shell]

I was very proud of my 12 biomass burner setup the other day. That's about my level of experience

[elfin smelt]

I mean that's the average of sandbox games

[gaunt crypt]

run x: stay on biomass for a long time while you figure out coal.
run x+1: get off biomass faster as you don't have to figure out coal.
run x+1+y: stay on biomass for a long time until you can skip coal entirely

it's the cycle of life.

[weary condor]

so was I lol, setting up good biomass never gets old

[gaunt crypt]

A heavy duty, slooped biomass setup can run for days off one 20 minute chainsaw massacre.

[weary condor]

this space tick got stuck in the middle of this platform im tryna build

might have to use scim to remove it 💀

[gaunt crypt]

you mean one of the crabflies?

[weary condor]

nah

the space tick whale thingies

[gaunt crypt]

oh right

[tribal shell]

The beans

[weary condor]

the corpses stay bouncy just fyi

scim not gonna be needed

[gaunt crypt]

They're pretty easy to remove if you don't let yourself feel any emotion.

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots message 30k power from fuel incoming

[weary condor]

I hate when i have to leave a project to grab more concrete

I think im about 5k deep

[tribal shell]

So do ya'll use scim or satisfactory tools?

[weary condor]

I tend to avoid em except for using map

[tribal shell]

Valid valid. I use tools to wrap my head around production chains because I suck at math and the visualization makes it easier

[grand charm]

Exactly same here! And then I write it out on paper and voila! Not cheating!

[weary condor]

I dont think using a calculator/planner is cheating at all

[tribal shell]

Hot take: playing a single player game, cheating doesn't exist. Play how you enjoy the game.

[weak bloom]

How do I get to this sam node in the red forest? #screenshots message

[tribal shell]

It's in a cave

[civic ore]

I have 8 separate 270 miners for limestone. Totalling 2160

That is needed to supply 4 separate manifolds that each consume 540

My belts only fit 270

Am I cooked or can I do something to feed these manifolds without needing Aton more limestone nodes

[stray oriole]

idk if here i can ask but, theres a way to get rid of fluids? like an awesome sink but for water or anything else?

[tribal shell]

If you need to get rid of water, try making wet concrete. You can't sink unpackaged liquids

[civic ore]

Please elaborate on wet concrete. Is it an alt recipe?

[tribal shell]

Yes, it's an alt recipe. Combines water and limestone to make concrete

[feral vector]

you're on mk3 belts and you need 2160 limestone? 0.o

[jolly solstice]

i only really use satisfactory tools' calculator for when i wanna make 101% sure i get my item rate calculations right (or when i'm too lazy to calculate them myself)

[feral vector]

it's just way faster than doing it myself in excel lol I use it all the time

[sterile blade]

Some use it to save time, others end up using it to avoid learning how to plan

[feral vector]

how do you even use it to avoid planning? I have to tweak so much stuff to get what I want

like I tried to throw everything for phase 4 in there and I had to adjust alt recipes and break it all down into smaller planners and set the outputs of those as inputs on the items later in the production chain

[sterile blade]

One way can be using it to plan all early game factories and following it to a T without any questioning (literally offloading all factory thinking to the software)... Which often ends up with questions like "how to feed 240/min to my machines when my belts can only move 120?" or "how to split 120/min into 30/min and 90/min?"

[feral vector]

you figure if people didn't use the planner they would know how the belt stuff works?

[jolly solstice]

yeahh there's quite a difference between those two

[feral vector]

I was kinda confused by belts and shit, this is my first factory game, I tended to just load balance everything cause it made intuitive sense to me

[jolly solstice]

i figured the basics and some slightly advanced stuff out really easily with no external resources

[forest hound]

Scim?

[feral vector]

and "how do I split a 120 belt into a 90 and 30" is like... the start of someone understanding the game better I think? at least it was for me. I didn't realize you can just manifold and stuff will work out, or that I can use smart splitters with overflow to prioritize the 90 or the 30 first

[tribal shell]

Satisfactory calculator

[sterile blade]

Eg: some people take that preference and assume that's the only way to do logistics; then end up trying to balance for numbers like 69.420/min just because "the plan said so" xD

[forest hound]

Like the inbuilt one?

[feral vector]

there's no way I would have done manifolds if someone didn't give me that tip lol

[tribal shell]

Nah it's a website

[forest hound]

O

I use satisfaftory modeler meow

[feral vector]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

satisfactory calculator interactive map = SCIM

[unkempt blade]

yeah once you understand how splitters work you can kind of just focus on the total number and not how to break it up most of the time

[forest hound]

Or just do it with the inbuilt calculator

Or my head :3

[feral vector]

SCIM lets you edit your save and load your save file to see missing hard drives and lots of cool stuff

[jolly solstice]

tbh yeah, the manifolds for some reason were difficult for me to find about so i only learnt about them externally but i refused to use them for a long time because i wrongfully thought that they would make the production rates permanently unstable in all cases

[civic ore]

Yes I regret it heavily. Worst still I need to finish this low to get the next stage

[sterile blade]

Fair warning, as it's not great as a calculator
Map is great, but the calculator part... Ehhhhhhh.....

[feral vector]

they aren't very intuitive IMO, seems weird that they just kinda work out

[unkempt blade]

you should get yourself a beautiful mind wall so you can externalize what's in your head

[feral vector]

I use satisfactory tools for the calculator 😛

[jolly solstice]

yup

[feral vector]

what do you need all this limestone for

[forest hound]

No. I WILL do all the math in my head and i WILL forget it all and do it ALL again!!!

[jolly solstice]

lowk cheating ngl

[feral vector]

that's like... 4x the amount of limestone I've used through finishing phase 3 lol

[sterile blade]

Reminder that "cheating" holds little objective meaning in a single-player non competitive game~

[feral vector]

well yeah but idc how people play a single player / coop game. I don't look up hard drives or edit my save, I don't even like using SCIM to find nodes. I used it once to find SAM when I was newer

[feral vector]

I think it's more like cheating will rob you of some fun in your first playthrough, the world is very well crafted

[jolly solstice]

yup that's a fair point, up to the user if they consider that fun or not

[feral vector]

I would have been so excited when I finally found SAM if I didn't just look up where a node was lol

[unkempt blade]

This would be my concern more than "cheating". A lot of the exploration stuff was a lot of fun the first save

[feral vector]

that's probably the only thing I feel bad about looking up. that and alt recipes, I feel like knowing about HOR -> diluted packaged fuel kinda made me skip the early fuel gen struggle

[unkempt blade]

you only get to play it for the first time once

[feral vector]

and knowing about hoarding hard drives = thinning the reward pool made me hoard them instead of use them XD

[civic ore]

I have 1200 steel ingots I’m tryna make into beams so I can finish tier 3 of the space elevator. I have. 54pm of the cube frame things already so I wanna max out the versatile framework production

And I need the concrete for the alt recipe for the beams

[feral vector]

yeah I fucked up my first playthrogh in palworld by looking up where the good pals were, trying to be less sweaty in this game

[feral vector]

you can finish phase 3 with like, one machine worth of each? are you doing a challenge run or something

[civic ore]

Lmao it’s my first time playing the game I decided to overproduce so i wouldn’t have to mess about with it again lmao

[feral vector]

I say I'm being less sweaty but I spent hours yesterday and today using the planner to plan phase 4, but I think that was overdue from me skipping a lot of space elevator part automation

[feral vector]

you can chill a bit fr

[civic ore]

I just assumed I’d need a boat load cos it says 1000 for the upgrade

[feral vector]

I have more versatile frameworks than I know what to do with and I make like 2 machines worth or something. it adds up over time, I have 3 large storage containers worth lmao

[civic ore]

I would but now I’m like 90% done it’s being fed with 810 coal and concrete and it has like 60 machines in it all wired up properly it’s literally just missing concrete

[feral vector]

yeah might as well just send it

try to find the wet concrete recipe if you need that much limestone hmm

[civic ore]

But I fucked up I did the maths wrong and went from needing 3 limestone nodes to like 9. I was devastated ahaha

[unkempt blade]

they're good for coupons if nothing else 😄

[feral vector]

don't feed them all to the sink, if you stockpile thousands of versatile framework you can use them later to make more advanced stuff 😛

[civic ore]

This is my logic tbh I wanna get the achievement for the expensive trophies

[feral vector]

you'll have so many that you won't ever need to build them into a production line again just container feed everything

man I'm too tired today to do phase 4 stuff

need to connect all my factories with trains, everything needs random shit from all over the map now

[civic ore]

I don’t think I have the recipe able yet I don’t have a machine I can put liquid and belts into yet

[tribal shell]

Smart splitter is your bestie here

[tribal shell]

You don't have refinery?

[feral vector]

you're working on phase 3 parts? should have access to the oil processing milestone. or do you mean you wanted to unlock phase 3?

[sterile blade]

This has become a little less true, with the 1.2 additions

[weary condor]

god I hate this game

[tribal shell]

What happened

[weary condor]

accidentally deconstructod a crash that had hard drive in it

[feral vector]

the game won't let you do that

[dense violet]

didn't think tha twas possible. Just reload save

[tribal shell]

Wait you can do that-

[feral vector]

I've tried and it says nope you can't there's a hard drive in there

[meager fern]

ive never opened a crash and then had time to try to deconstruct it

[weary condor]

experimental, accidentally selected it while using mass deconstruct on debris

[sterile blade]

Wait, that's illegal!

[delicate hinge]

Yeah you can only deconstruct after you taken the harddrive as far as i know...

[fringe shadow]

you know where to get normal or pure crude oil? i only got impure in refinery

[delicate hinge]

ooooh

[weary condor]

yall it literally just happened in front of my eyes

[delicate hinge]

nvm, don't know how it is in experimental

[feral vector]

hmm maybe you can get around it by using mass deconstruct? auto save is like every 5 mins just load one

[sterile blade]

BTW, we got another channel especially for that 😉 ( #satisfactory-experimental )

[feral vector]

you sure you didn't already take it out 😛

[delicate hinge]

what if you reload from a previous save?