satisfactory

[native tapir]

Honestly? I just don't think there is really anything that can be done outside of making factories. Not sure the game really allows for anything else.

[austere tinsel]

Anyone else just go around butchering local wildlife early game for biomass instead of picking up leaves and sticks?

5 spitters = 1k biomass.

[strange egret]

havent thought of that

might have made the biofuel phase of the game easier for me

[austere tinsel]

Yeah, honestly killing mobs for biomass is much faster tbh.

100 biomass per hide is a great ROI.

[strange egret]

what phase of the game are you on rn?

[strange egret]

i can say cool things to- like economics- and investments, and shareholder privlage

[austere tinsel]

Just started a new playthrough so Phase 1. Just got the elevator up and my bootstrap factories running. So about to make the shift to coal and tear everything down after stocking up on some basic parts.

[strange egret]

im currently on phase 2! first playthough to

really loving the game- building powerplants especially

[worn oar]

Making cities, planning infrastructure you don't really need just for the hell of it?

[native tapir]

In theory, sure. You could do that.

[worn oar]

I mean you could finish the entire game by plopping machines on the bare ground and belting spaghetti everywhere if you want to. But most people not named Josh Letsgameitout don't do that

[strange egret]

i mean it is called satisfactory for a reason- would like however to see a defensive aspect to it- even though the developers already said they aren't going to do that

[strange egret]

that man is the soul reason why i got the game

[austere tinsel]

Reminds me of a video I watched about Satisfactory.

[worn oar]

Literally same, also the way I discovered his channel

[rigid wedge]

How would you know when you reach that limit for a item?

[rough shore]

When storage containers are full duh

[strange egret]

probably would do it via storage, meaining calculate how many storage containers id need depending on the stack size

[rigid wedge]

Storage seems so limited in satisfactory

[stone python]

storage is infinite.

[rigid wedge]

Technically

[stone python]

only limited by the amount of containers you are willing to build

[rigid wedge]

[stone python]

and uiobjects i guess LOL

[normal orbit]

how much storage do you need?

[worn oar]

What is the optimal factory layout and why is it this? https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1hjcgof/main_bus_design/

[uneven path]

Dimensional depots, normal containers, industrial containers, fluid buffers of 2 sizes

What else do you need in terms of storage? The components should be going to building stuff anyway

[feral vector]

I don't think I've ever felt like limited storage is an issue? but I'm just starting phase 4

[austere tinsel]

Mostly because storage only has 3 major purposes.

• Storing items for personal use (you really don’t need much).
• Buffers (Only useful for trucks/trains)
• Storing project parts to load later.

[feral vector]

I guess a third tier of container that had as many slots as your max inventory size or something would be nice?

[native tapir]

Sounds interesting. Will check him out. Always looking for top tier factory layouts to get inspo

[rigid wedge]

How do you visualize the placed stuff on the map?

[strange egret]

id like to use physical storage containers, Dimensional depots seem like cheating

also should clarify- will be storing the liquids in containers- not just- the liquid itself

[feral vector]

lol I've been hoarding up to 3 storage containers worth of space elevator parts for like the whole game, seems to keep ending up being helpful. like in phase 4 I have more than enough versatile frameworks to just container feed them to what I need

[normal orbit]

you're not forced to use depots if you dont want to

[strange egret]

no i mean for the 1 million of each item thing

[normal orbit]

why do you need 1 million of each item?

[strange egret]

for general gameplay i will fully use it, no need to run back and foward for supplies

[strange egret]

an endgame challange

something to do ig

[stone python]

why stop at 1mil, go to the moon and do 100mil!

[normal orbit]

its just elevator part 2.0 make boxes

not much of a challenge imo

[feral vector]

just do a challenge run with 100x costs or something?

[austere tinsel]

I tend to create factories as I need things in-mass.

Oh, I need 1000 smart plating? Time to build a smart plating factory.
Oh, my only rotor factory is a personal use rotor factory? Time to build another rotor factory.
Every factory producing a part gets its own independent supply lines from factories dedicated to it.

Generally I keep 1 factory dedicated toward making personal use parts if I find myself using a lot of them.

[feral vector]

yeah I have one factory for basically every item in the game except the new tier 7 and 8 stuff I haven't got around to yet, which goes to storage and overflows to a sink

but in phase 3 I got lazy and container fed the manufacturers for space elevator parts

[strange egret]

i guess its more for the wow factor of it then?

[austere tinsel]

I container feed phase 1 but that’s about it.

[feral vector]

so now I have to container feed them again to make enough to use as components for the phase 4 parts lol. or I guess I could properly automate them but it's not like I don't have a stockpile of stuff to container feed with

[austere tinsel]

I don’t see a point in making a rotor or reinforced iron plate factory when I’m just gonna tear it down to power it with coal.

[bleak valley]

Who was gonna tell me the rebar gun was so much stronger than the basher

[feral vector]

I feel like container feeding phase 3 kinda made phase 4 a hassle, but I did the math and it's not hard to container feed to get enough ACU and modular engines to use for the phase 4 stuff

[bleak valley]

I’ve spent so long ignoring it

[feral vector]

why tear it down? I just need one assembler worth of rotors to keep me stocked up all game

I gotta decide if I should automate the phase 4 stuff, so far the game is making it pretty clear that the next phase will use parts from the current phase

[austere tinsel]

I design all my factories with scalability in mind.

[feral vector]

beginning of a new phase is so overwhelming lol I got like ten things to automate

[austere tinsel]

Any factory built after phase 1 can be converted into a mk.3 factory with minimal effort.

[feral vector]

I'd do that if I was better at the game lol seems hard for a first playthrough

[bleak valley]

2 rotors per minute is gonna make the game take a lot longer this is why I had to start a new save I was only making barely enough to scrape by phase 3 and phase 4 was overwhelming. Now I’m making extra of everything

[austere tinsel]

The glorious power of the manifold helps a lot.

And thinking with verticality.

[bleak valley]

On my current save my first factory was ten smart plating a minute

[feral vector]

I mean I build little rotor factories into production lines when new stuff needs them

the initial rotor factory just feeds storage with a depot and sinks the rest

[bleak valley]

Then 15 rotors and reinforced plates per minute and the newest is 30 modular frames a minute

[bleak valley]

Gotcha

[feral vector]

maybe I'd be better off just making a much bigger rotor factory and siphoning them off later? beats me lol i'm trying not to go too overboard looking up good ways to do stuff

[feral vector]

that's definitely way more than I did lol

[bleak valley]

The rotors and reinforced plates are just for personal use

They might get siphoned off later but the smart plates and modular frames have their own supplies

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need... smart plates for personal use

[feral vector]

yeah I just don't know how much space to leave. I ended up building another floor to my starter factory (2 I guess, one small one for logistics underneath the actual second floor)

[bleak valley]

I said the wrong thing

[feral vector]

lol I think I had one machine worth of smart plates going for my whole playthrough and I'm at like 3 storage containers full and had enough to container feed the other space elevator parts

but I'm super slow at like 140h. I probably afk like 20-40h?

I only have one train and it's just a single track with loops on both ends to bring plastic and rubber to my starter base, I gotta properly do logistics for this phase 4 stuff

[fluid sapphire]

scaling up existing factories is overrated

[feral vector]

might get that modeler app to plan stuff. or just use tools and figure out how the different factories work with each other myself

[fluid sapphire]

it really only works if you build floating platform style

[feral vector]

lol I was going to say this is how I feel but I do build floating platform style XD

[austere tinsel]

To keep logistics simple. I follow a 3 principle process.

• Simplify recipes where viable. I’d rather make reinforced iron plates purely out of iron and iron wire. Screws are a hassle. Reduce the amount of trains and trucks you need to run between factories by maximizing single ore manufacturing when possible.
• Multi-stage verticality. Each floor of the factory is dedicated to one stage of a manufacturing process toward the end goal of the final product. Plot out where machines are gonna go before you lay down a single wire or conveyor.
• 1 factory feeds another. There’s more than enough ore. If your factory needs more parts than a singular factory can produce, build another and setup a train/truck network to keep the buffer at the primary manufacturing filled.

Doing it this way breaks down each part I want to produce into a singular separated problem as opposed to trying to connect everything together. Modularity is king.

[feral vector]

for the first one you just mean like a motor factory that uses alt recipes so it only needs iron? can't you just build somewhere that has the 2 or 3 things you need and belt it in hmmm

[bleak valley]

Finally got depots

[austere tinsel]

You can, but that requires good location.

[bleak valley]

The game is playable

[austere tinsel]

I don’t wanna be thinking about location so I just use alts.

[feral vector]

yeah this is kinda what i'm trying to work out in my head for phase 4, gonna have factories for stuff near the resources they need and then bring stuff to other factories to finish building it if necessary

[old grail]

i think the first two you mentioned are the most important one to learn

[feral vector]

depots are so handy, I finally have them at a decent upgrade level

[feral vector]

you don't really seem to need to build vertical if you just do cheesy floating platforms heh

[austere tinsel]

Ye, I used to try to build factories as one big interconnected network.

But it gets really confusing, really quickly.

Modularity helps keeps things easy to diagnose and fix.

[old grail]

today i made a 300m/battery factory to supply future factories that will be using trucks/tractors

[feral vector]

hmm for me it seems less confusing, I can lay it out kind similarly to how satisfactory tools has it

I can see where stuff starts and how it flows until it reaches the final manufacturer or whatever

but to be fair I haven't automated anything crazier than heavy modular frames 😛

[old grail]

yeah same, now i do like you mentioned, i would also prefere a factory with one ore being used, like those iron wires. You can build around the ore straight up

[austere tinsel]

Ye.

There are ofc cases where you can’t use just one ore.

Sometimes you need multiple ores on-site to manufacture things later in the game.

[feral vector]

but I guess having every step of the production on it's own floor would help me keep things organized similarly to laying it out on a big flat platform

[austere tinsel]

In which case having a decent understanding of trains/trucks and how to buffer/overflow things helps a lot.

[austere tinsel]

Saves on space and looks nicer as well.

[old grail]

thats true, rhats true, but then logistics come in play and skill of locating right machines close or next to each other

[feral vector]

if I run out of space I jsut make another huge foundation slab above XD

[austere tinsel]

Circuit board factories work.

[feral vector]

it looks like shit though lol, I do want to make cool factories that actually seem like factories at some point

[austere tinsel]

It’s just they get really really big later in the game.

I’ve seen nuclear power plants that span for miles.

[feral vector]

I'm trying to just build where I can belt in everything I need. do a planner on satisfactory tools and see how many nodes are close by

[feral vector]

yeah fair enough I don't have anything too scaled up

[austere tinsel]

Yeah, the issue stems from when you start needing more raw ore than is in your immediate vicinity,

[rigid wedge]

i just had a great idea. i dont like the desert. so i could make a project to exploit all the desert without processing it in the desert

[austere tinsel]

That’s why modularity is nice. You can just build another factory and hook it up to your supply line.

[feral vector]

you should see how long my belt is to get quartz and sulfur and SAM to my starter base XD

[austere tinsel]

Oof.

I tend to follow the 500-1k rule.

If I need an ore farther than 500m-1k.

Run a truck/train.

[lean fossil]

can you sink nuclear waste?
(curious)

[austere tinsel]

No.

[lean fossil]

how do you get rid of it.

[austere tinsel]

Best way to deal with nuclear waste is to convert it into plutonium fuel rods and then sink those.

[rigid wedge]

same but when i consulted my inventory it said we have 800 iron plates, take it or leave it

[austere tinsel]

Or you can go the difficult route and use the fuel rods and convert that waste into Ficsonium.

[feral vector]

welp I found the first thing I can't just container feed lol, turbo motors need something I haven't automated yet

[austere tinsel]

But Ficsonium logistics is a headache.

[lean fossil]

I wish I could radiate the planet.

[feral vector]

this would have been smart in hindsight

[normal orbit]

process it into plutonium fuel rods, which you can sink, or burn, then process plutonium waste into fisconium fuel rods which make no waste

[austere tinsel]

Isn’t Ficonium power negative though?

[normal orbit]

not even close

[old grail]

i wonder what they have up their sleeves for next updates, i havent even started producing stuff for phase 9 lol and convertors seem pretty complicated

[normal orbit]

also if your options are sinking plutonium or making ficsonium the power gain is tremendous

[lean fossil]

Is THAT possible

[normal orbit]

fairly easily, just tedious

[lean fossil]

I REALLY hope lets game it out checks this game AGAIN

It's also so funny how he contributed to making the game as optimised as it is right now

Just because he made a conveyor tornado. 😭

[fluid sapphire]

did more than that

[austere tinsel]

Personally I tend to store plutonium fuel rods for vehicle fuel and sink overflow.

[lament lily]

hey uhh im new to the game how do i unlock the third tier of phase one

[lucid maple]

whats the best build planner? is it satisfactorytools1.0?

[austere tinsel]

Easy source of tickets and wasteless vehicle fuel.

[normal orbit]

tier 3 is phase two, you need to deliver 50 smart plating thru the space elevator

[lament lily]

oh alr thanks

[fiery root]

do the enemies respawn on death?

[plucky bone]

Is rocket fuel a gas or a fluid?

[white dawn]

"best" is subjective. Of the solvers available, it's my own favorite

[rain elbow]

should i make 32 coal gen or 16?

[lucid maple]

so you're familiar with the tool?

[white dawn]

That said, the solver at satisfactory-calculator.com isn't great; I'd avoid that one. (The interactive map there is A+, just not the calculator)

[cunning field]

is it useful to try to make a perfect factory at phase 5 ? since i'll have to destroy it anyway

[white dawn]

You never have to destroy anything. Apart from very early Phase 1 factories, I literally never tear anything down

[rain elbow]

if u wanna build something great, u dont wait for technology to advance do you?

[cunning field]

but its gonna take forever and ficsit's not gonna be happy abt that

[lucid maple]

trying to make reinforced iron plates but i have 2 pure iron nodes to use for it (120/mk2 belt limit atm) but i cant figure out how to calculate it from that site using 2x120 imputs rather than 1 singular 240 any tips on how i can split the 240? if i stay with this setup i have a line that need 180 but im limited to 120

[rain elbow]

JUST DO IT

[old grail]

i use satisfactory modeler, downloadable on steam

best so far

[rain elbow]

a word of advice, dont use all there is to make a single item

go with ratios

[lucid maple]

im in the north forest i have plenty other pures for now

[rain elbow]

otherwise load balancing becomes a nightmare

[worn oar]

Downside is you have to manually create the entire chain yourself and fix the miner thoroughput

And it doesn't have the ability to set a limit according to the resources available on the map

[normal orbit]

just take one belt of 120 into four smelters then into four constructors to make 80 plates. then double that up and you have two lines of 80 plates

[worn oar]

Whereas these online tools do the calculations and limit themselves

[old grail]

yeah true but for me that time to set it up gives me some space to re-think everything about this factory

and i usually round them up

[rain elbow]

?

[worn oar]

If I tell satisfactory modeler that I want to make 6000 plutonium fuel rods/minute it's going to let me waste 30 minutes on it instead of telling me that's stupid and won't work

And unless I already knew there was a limit of 2100 uranium on the map I wouldn't know I was in the wrong

[fiery root]

I found it!!!

[old grail]

thats a good point

i guess i didnt yet build anything at such a scale

[worn oar]

Generally just build the small version of what you want, and then come back to make a bigger version later if/when you need it.

[hasty estuary]

wow

i just got alt recipe for "charcoal" (the manual one) and alt recipe for portable miners in the same hard drive

might be the WORST lineup ever

[normal orbit]

portable miner is the only way to automate em, so not bad imo

[hasty estuary]

why would i need to automate them

is there a use for them later down?

[old grail]

every miner

depot them

[normal orbit]

each tier of miner uses one, so a mk3 miner takes 3 of em to build

[hasty estuary]

yeah im aware but is it that much of a hassle to throw down a work bench for 20 seconds?

[meager fern]

drones also take miners

[worn oar]

Charcoal is excellent for two use cases: creating satellite steel plants to support small amounts needed on-site for larger builds, and fueling trucks/tractors with minimal effort away from coal nodes in the early-mid game.

[hasty estuary]

i feel like its more time making a whole factory for it than just making the miners when u need

[normal orbit]

to each their own. i find it to be less hassle to just automate em from an impure iron node and just send em to the dimensional depot

[worn oar]

You get absolute heaps of coal from minimal effort, it just isn't enough to run a constant plant producing or consuming a lot of coal.

[hasty estuary]

this is a fair point

[normal orbit]

its just two constructors and an assembler. not like its big effort to automate :p

[storm zephyr]

can a train pick up cargo from 2 different places at once

like can it carry 2 of the crate things

[reef basin]

train? yes
car? yes/no

[storm zephyr]

so i need 2 freight cars and presumably 2 freight platforms on each station?

[reef basin]

car can pick up at two places, but will carry one crate

and generally mixing items into one car is not recommended

[storm zephyr]

wait why not

[fiery root]

Even after searching for coal my glorious space elevator is in clear sight

[normal orbit]

if station 1 fully loads a car, then nothing will fit from station 2. so you're better off loading diffrent cars at diffrent stations, but you can use same train for it

[storm zephyr]

oh i see

[storm zephyr]

ive tested and it doesnt fully load but now ive realized that itll be 4 different items (plastic and rubber from one station and alclad sheets/casing from another) so i should probably just get a 2nd car

will i need 2 freight platforms at EACH station to support a 2 car train?

[normal orbit]

i'd do four cars for four items for reliability, but you do you

[storm zephyr]

but then will i need 4 platforms

these freight platforms are HUGE man im having trouble fitting 1 in this area

[normal orbit]

two platform each

just space em out on one station with empty platforms to match train

[storm zephyr]

oh i forgot about empty platforms

[earnest bridge]

how u turn on experimental?

[storm zephyr]

steam betas id assume

[earnest bridge]

what

[storm zephyr]

#screenshots

[earnest bridge]

oh lemme check

[crimson swan]

Do you need to unlock both "Sam Fluctuator" and "Somersloop Analysis" to be able to research "Alien Energy Harnessing" in the MAM?

[normal orbit]

yes

[earnest bridge]

ah thanks bro turned it on. appreciate it

[storm zephyr]

do i need an empty platform in the back or just sandwiched inbetween the station and its platforms

and then in the unload area do i need 2 freight platforms?

[normal orbit]

between station and cargo terminals

dont need to use em at the ass end

[white dawn]

For myself, my own factories only ever really output to my own personal storage: ie, stuff that's used by my build gun. So my own RIP factory would be unlikely to produce more than like 30/min or 60/min or whatever. Then whenever some other factory needs more RIPs, I make more right inside that one factory, btw.

[normal orbit]

four

[white dawn]

If you do want some help with factory planning, though, solvers like https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production are quite useful; can head to the "Inputs" tab and limit your resources (say, to 120/min like you said you were limited to) and then "Maximize" production of RIPs, which'll be based on the limits you set

Then you could just do two modules of that

[earnest bridge]

do i gotta backup my save or is it fine?

[white dawn]

Though, again, for myself, I don't really worry about "maximizing" nodes; I just make what I need and be done with it. :)

[normal orbit]

back it up incase

[storm zephyr]

id back it up if i were you but im unsure if you NEED to

[earnest bridge]

ok but if im gonna start a new save cus i just completed the game then i dont have to right

[storm zephyr]

nah

[fiery root]

Is there a way to handle those bee spawners?

[normal orbit]

crouch, then approach and bash em

or just ya know... nuclear bomb em

[fiery root]

I can bash em? My bolt gun didnt do anything

[earnest bridge]

yo i try to start and it says plugin "sml failed to load beacuse module sml could not be loaded". "There may be an operating system error or the module may not be properly set up"

what i do

[normal orbit]

remove your mods

[white dawn]

They can be destroyed by anything that does damage; if one rebar doesn't do the trick, multiple would. But yeah, the meta for 'em is to approach while crouching and just bash 'em.

[earnest bridge]

ok

[fiery root]

Sounds reasonable. So imma put em on my list for wjen i have needed Ressources to Show gratitude

[white dawn]

There's an even sillier meta where you remain crouched while jetpacking over

[earnest bridge]

ah thanks it worked now

[remote marsh]

hey guys i got a question.
I just got oil and really need power, what is the best thing to do for it?
1: make plastic and use the hor for fuel and power
2: just go from crude to fuel

[reef basin]

well, whatever you need. There's not really any "best" thing

[earnest bridge]

get the heavy oil alt recipe

[white dawn]

If you want the most fuel out of your crude oil using the vanilla recipes you start with, use the default Fuel recipe

[fluid sapphire]

dont sweat it too much, you can do a bit of all 3 and scale up when you get better tools and more recipes

[fiery root]

Make plastic and throw it in the next ocean

[white dawn]

Basically for all the vanilla recipes, it's most oil-efficient to use the most "direct" recipe. Use Rubber to get rubber, Plastic to get plastic, and Fuel to get fuel.

[earnest bridge]

Honestly i would get heavy oil alt recipe + heavy turbo fuel alt recipe and then get sulfur + coal and make turbo fuelllll

[white dawn]

The other ways (again, with the vanilla recipes you start with) are all just ways to process byproducts into stuff that you might find more useful; the oil-to-product ratio will be much lower than the direct versions

But yeah, once you get various alt recipes, the situation can change quite a bit

[worn oar]

2

[white dawn]

If you're hurtin' for power and just want some quick Fuel Gens up, though -- yeah, use the vanilla Fuel recipe and hook some gens up to that

[remote marsh]

okay thank you all

[normal orbit]

you need a starter factory for plubber, so might as well handle the hor from that into fuel. then you can make another fuel plant elsewhere for more power

[remote marsh]

okay thx

[storm zephyr]

power tower mk.2 when

[feral vector]

oh god I added the phase 4 stuff to satisfactory tools and wtf is that visualization

[feral vector]

this would be nice, I always branch them out so I can zipline around, lots of them end up full

[earnest bridge]

wait how do i backup a save like im at the folder but then what do i do?

[feral vector]

copy it to another folder

[storm zephyr]

i have like 3 power towers next to each other in this one area cause of terrain and branches

[normal orbit]

i just use two full oc'd impure nodes for 150 crude each, both feeding 5 refiners each, half set to rubber, other to plastic, merge all the heavy oil residue (150) into 100 fuel which burns in five fuel gens for 1250mw. and then i setup overflow sinks for the plastic and rubber so it never stalls

[feral vector]

yeah I gotta set up something like this. right now I'm just using the polymer resin byproduct from my fuel refineries but that only works cause I still haev a bunch using the shitty default fuel recipe

[earnest bridge]

thanks.

[gaunt crypt]

imo its rush geothermal, do a walkabout capping some geysers and not worry about power for a very long time. You can actually do that around the time you'd otherwise be setting up coal power, skipping coal entirely and it'll cover you until well past discovering fuel gens to the point setting up fuel gens is a cakewalk and nuclear isn't too bad either.

[storm zephyr]

i have a pure node feeding 8 refineries (4 plastic 4 rubber) and the heavy oil gets turned into smokeless powder/petroleum coke

then i have another pure node feeding 4 fuel refineries and i use the resin to make polyester

[gaunt crypt]

if you do it at the point you get coal you have to loot goblin crash sites a fair bit to cover the research. Doing it at the point you've reached you can basically make everything you need but loot goblining is pretty easy at that point.

[storm zephyr]

this reminded me i should pop another hard drive into the mam cause i have like 20 built up

[feral vector]

you don't just pop down a MAM when you find one? maybe you explore much faster than me lol I could never stockpile that many

[autumn steeple]

i have not once touched thermal lmao

[gaunt crypt]

It's pretty easy to have 5GW just grabbing the ones that are well clustered/convenient. If you go and get every single one it's closer to 8GW.

[storm zephyr]

at one point i had to scour the earth for mercer spheres so i figured i might as well pick up hard drives on the way (i ended up finding more hard drives than mercer spheres)

[feral vector]

this doesn't seem like a first playthrough strategy

[autumn steeple]

i did a big ol bit of procrastination exploration and got around 65 mercer spheres, 25 drives and 20 sloops lmao

[feral vector]

I didn't even know I could use it until I already had fuel gens

[autumn steeple]

along with the 150 sphere and 50 sloop achievements

[gaunt crypt]

Even then there's probably a few GW reasonably close to all the starting areas. If you've got oil extraction up you've traveled near/past several geysers no matter where you started

[ornate saffron]

I tend to connect the geo thermal to power priority switches so i can turn them off remotely if I need to trouble shoot a power plant

[grim carbon]

is there any other blueprint designers besides the MK1 and MK2 inside the special tab?

like a build version or a decorative version?

[reef basin]

wdym?

[grim carbon]

i was talking with my copilot trying to figure out the ui

[feral vector]

ah I didn't mean it like that, just holy shit that's a lot of stuff going into one part 😛

[grim carbon]

is was totally confusing me, so i shut it off

[reef basin]

UI of what?

[grim carbon]

the designer

[reef basin]

why not consult wiki?

it's both more accurate and better

[storm zephyr]

would be neat if you could zoop blueprints

[normal orbit]

? you can make whatever in the designers why would you need a build or decorative versions?

[grim carbon]

that's what i thought

there is only one UI to the desinger

copilot is so confusing sometimes

[normal orbit]

what?

copilot?

[grim carbon]

yes

[reef basin]

using AI instead of getting help from wiki

[grim carbon]

i'm not going to be consulting AI for this kind of thing again

[normal orbit]

gotta be the only person who unironically uses microslops garbage

[gaunt crypt]

Actually that's pretty much how my first playthrough went. Played through unspoiled w/o discord or guides or anything. Started in grassy plains. When I needed oil I looked at the scanner and ended up trekking to blue crater. Actually getting oil from there back to my base turned into a.... production to say the least... but running back and forth past all those geysers got me thinking and I paused on oil to wire them up. Then said "i wonder where else there are geysers... and that's how I discovered just how big the world was. When I finished the final phase I had about 6 coalgens I had already built and 1-2 fuel gens I built to get rid of waste fuel and one poorly functioning nuclear reactor along with all the geyeers in the world.

[storm zephyr]

should i build a giant railroad across the entire coastline

[normal orbit]

blueprint designers is as simple as it egts, you just build what you want inside it, then save it

[reef basin]

build railroad from/to places that you need rail to go to

[worn oar]

It's basically nothing compared to Factorio

[storm zephyr]

but would a railroad around the map border be cool

[reef basin]

well, railroad is cooler if it has a use 😛

[storm zephyr]

i mean im planning it cause i think it would make stuff near the edges of the map easier to access (my base is in the dead center)

[reef basin]

yeah but don't just build random rail. Build rail between places that want train

[normal orbit]

Cooler to build it around terrain features :p

[gaunt crypt]

One of my favorite bases was built on top of the huge lake near the center of the map with a rail that looped the world. It's a lot of fun.

[storm zephyr]

my base is in a similar spot im thinking about having it go through the river to the northwest and around the map

or the one through the swamp to the east too

[gaunt crypt]

Depending on how you feel about megaprints there's a few worldwide rails you can load in. Some are way overkill but some of the lightweight ones are nice if you're in the mood for that kind of playthrough without routing everything yourself

[storm zephyr]

i think building the railroads myself would be better cause i can pick up collectibles along the way

[grim carbon]

why don't belts get deleted when you clear the designer?

[hollow terrace]

Does anyone have advice on how to stop excess water from filling pipes? I’m currently trying to fix my aluminum factory but I’m running into an issue with my pipes filling up with water and not being able to make more aluminum. Do I just need to package it

[storm zephyr]

if you have 1 regular aluminum scrap refinery you can just loop it back around and delete an extractor cause by default they produce exactly as much as 1 water extractor

[grim carbon]

yes and then sink it

[hollow terrace]

Ah okay, I didn’t really think of my set up that well when I did it. I can send a screenshot of it after but I think I’ll just have to sink it

[gaunt crypt]

The easy answer is "wet concrete -> sink"

The longer answers are various mixes of feed the water back to the input from an overhead pipe while covering the difference w/ an underclocked and/or valved extractor

[storm zephyr]

wet concrete -> cheap silica would be cool too maybe

[gaunt crypt]

the longer answers are highly dependent on the rest of your build and are either really interesting to figure out or utterly infuriating depending on how you feel about that sort of thing.

[storm zephyr]

wait no cheap silica takes limestone

[gaunt crypt]

it can be done with <any rec that takes water> -> sink. Wet concrete is the standard answer because there's pretty much always a random limestone node somewhere nearby whereas everything else that takes water tends to be more complicated by comparison.

[feral vector]

if you have two refineries making scrap, you can send the water to two solution refineries that are at 0.667x clock speed and it perfectly uses the 240 water / min. then your other two solution refineries are at 1.33x overclock and use 480 water / min from extractors. keep the pipe systems separate. this will use a full 480 / min of incoming bauxite

[atomic venture]

i have like a train with 4 pure nodes how many freight lines should i use? the train is on the far top corner of the map and the nodes are on the top center of the map

[feral vector]

or just do something with the water and sink it. but that works real good for a contained system that doesn't mix wastewater and fresh water

[reef basin]

don't merge fresh and byproduct water

that's easiest solution, no need to sink, no need for any priority, super simple to set up

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1460381544173801616/image.png?ex=69d816cc&is=69d6c54c&hm=0d27c1131076a53f99dad2fee4c95288aa06cdb1ff5f00053012d630a2b4eb3e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=685&height=968

[atomic venture]

helpppp

im so alone

waaaaa

[upbeat jacinth]

Same in terms of people that see an issue with so may early game buildings still visually glitching

[hollow terrace]

Just implemented this now and it’s working so much nicer, so I thank you. Now I just need to expand my factory 😐

[storm zephyr]

would submarine railways be cool

[violet glen]

lol, i loaded my available alternates from my save into the planner, and it promptly suggested I make rocket fuel based on alien protein

via Biocoal

[reef basin]

which planner?

[violet glen]

satisfactory-calculator

[reef basin]

yeah that one has pretty bad planner

[worn oar]

Disable the alternate

[reef basin]

(map is great tho)

[violet glen]

Yeah, I just found it funny

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ can try this one

[violet glen]

600 rocket fuel per minute. Need to keep hunting at high enough of a rate to sustain it

Though alien protein turns into a surprisingly high amount of coal

[worn oar]

Unironically if you want to sloop it, liquid biofuel becomes pretty decent

You can run a 7.5GW setup off of a storage container for hours

[violet glen]

need to build the storage container in a position with consistent respawn

[worn oar]

Nah I meant wood and leaves, just gather while you're out and about

Come back to base to drop off inventory and refill the container

Don't know that I would prefer sloops there rather than producing things though

[violet glen]

something I only very recently realized... slooping snails -> power shard

[grim carbon]

haven't heard of that breed

[violet glen]

It's just twice the shards for virtually free

just need to plop down a constructor, put a sloop in, and quickly let it process your snails

[grim carbon]

i've only heard of blue, yellow and purple

[violet glen]

well yes :D

[unborn moss]

Yea that's how you should do your power shards, always with sloops

[violet glen]

It just never occured to me that that recipe is also something a machine can do

[fringe shadow]

wasnt smart splitter in quartz tree?

is it in sulfur now

[ebon marten]

caterium wasnt it?

you need the ai limiters for the smart splitters

im amazed i can still remember what tree its in, i havent played for a while

[fringe shadow]

oh ye true

[grim carbon]

muscle memory

[tender ether]

@brisk mural nice power shard are the files posted anywhere on the interweb?

[brisk mural]

I built it with half scaled files from the Power shard on makerworld by Shockwave 27, with the diameter of the crystal holding bit modified for a friction fit. That scaling and use of my own electronics made it a huge pain to assemble with screws, so I'd recommend some revisions if you wanna make one yourself. If you are good at stuff like Arduino and soldering and have the equipment to do so, go for it. Otherwise, build the full scale with the electronics listed on the post or find another model entirely.

[drifting vault]

So I decided to torture myself by playing Satisfactory Plus... I'm 36 hours in and I just got steel being produced D:

[tame bobcat]

to make my life easier what are the best alt recipes for aluminium production

[ornate saffron]

feeling........ Screwed?

[drifting vault]

sloppy aluminum and instant scrap are solid

[drifting vault]

screws aren't even a problem so far honestly but lmfa

[tender ether]

I'll have a look thanks.

[feral vector]

0.875 turbo motors / min leftover going to storage is probably not much eh? might overproduct a bit more than that

[ornate saffron]

youll need some for personal use ^_^

[feral vector]

yeah just trying to decide if that's enough overproduction, doesn't seem like much lol

[small crypt]

i just dedicate 1 60/min (base) node for every item in the game, if it's a pure node i'll split it to 2 items

works out so far

theres not really that many items in the game

[feral vector]

hmm shit I should probably look at my alt recipes before I do all these planners

[feral vector]

I usually do one machine worth of whatever it is but the numbers work out weird when I'm trying to siphon off overproduction for all this phase 4 automation

[ornate saffron]

should. shunt the person use ones into a Industial buffer that feeds a depot. Over time youll have lots.

I think the only buildings are Portals, Miners, Particle accelerators and Quantum Encodins.

you dont really spam those

[feral vector]

gotcha fair enough ty

[hard wolf]

double buffer it and let it run overnight. then you'll (hopefully) never have to worry about it again

[weary condor]

i hate this game sm

regretting my own choices

[feral vector]

lol sounds like my playthrough, all the shortcuts I took are piling up

[weary condor]

nah its not like that

#screenshots message

[nocturne finch]

It’s a rough start lmao

[weary condor]

yeahhh

once I get to coal its gonna be worth tho

[plush trellis]

Ladies and gentlemen I have now completed one of the 4 required items for phase 5

[feral vector]

lol yeah self inflicted

[weary condor]

the worst kind

[nocturne finch]

In my game with my friends we are at x5 elevator parts

[hard wolf]

are they slooped?

[weary condor]

my tier 1 space elevator parts?

[hard wolf]

the smart plating machines

[weary condor]

uh no

I dont think you can unlock that without stuff from t2

either way would much rather have an excuse to build useless shit for 10 hours lol

[hard wolf]

idk about SAM fluctuators but you can get circuit boards at crash sites

[ornate saffron]

Everyone's playthrough is built on the choices we make. This makes every run and everyone's playthrough different

[wise junco]

Yeah usually phase 4 is where that hits ya

[weary condor]

okay well the choices I made were poor

[hard wolf]

you could get sloop research with crash site parts

[feral vector]

should have automated phase 3 and set up more trains

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots any tips to make my storage better?

[weary condor]

needs more foundations

[ivory condor]

Sure does, my play through atm involves sam....alot of sam

[floral sparrow]

What are some good use cases for the tractor? Pretty new here

[weary condor]

I personally dont love the sam/mercer/somersloop tech too much

[weary condor]

running stuff over

[feral vector]

first thing I used it for was to bring coal to my base without making a really long belt, seemed to work pretty well

[simple pebble]

yeah, generally, moving large quantities of stuff distances that are too ugly to belt

and this can either be distributing really large numbers of a single resource, or transferring a whole bunch of different outputs from base A to base B

[floral sparrow]

Is the truck a better version of it later on?

[feral vector]

yeah truck is an upgraded tractor

[coarse bay]

is there a button for opening codex

[hard wolf]

o or p I think?

[coarse bay]

its o ty

[violet glen]

I didn't realize how much power "one full pipe of rocket fuel" was oO

[worn oar]

Yes except that its higher center of gravity can sometimes make it flip or uncenter when the tractor would have driven over the land just fine. And when it uncenters it does this weird spin thing losing all momentum

[feral vector]

lol how many generators

[frosty brook]

I wish i could have office building items…

[violet glen]

600m³/s of rocket fuel equated to 144 fuel gens, which is 36GW

[frosty brook]

A carpet would be nice

[feral vector]

lol yeah that's quite a few

[violet glen]

Given how easy it was to make that one full pipe (Just 5 refineries into 4 blenders into another 4 blenders), that took me by surprise

though it ended up being "only" 143 fuel gens. And a packager.

[white dawn]

Remember to overclock your fuel gens. :D Well worth the shards

[warped hound]

found smth fun that let me get thousands of power shards even tho im only at tier 4:)

[violet glen]

sounds like a glitch 🤔

[warped hound]

ye

[feral vector]

if you wanna cheat just use mods lol

[white dawn]

I mean if you're going to glitch, just use SCIM or AGS to give yourself the inventory directly

[feral vector]

as long as you use a sloop on the constructor you make power shards with idk how you could run out

[warped hound]

dont really like the glitch and might just sink all the stuff

[violet glen]

I mean, I also have over 1k power shards now. But I just collected snails

[feral vector]

yeah or that

[warped hound]

i do know how to put on mods

[hard wolf]

is it that duping glitch where you put a door in the blueprinter, load stuff into a tractor, drive it onto the blueprinter, save, clear, and reload?

[white dawn]

Shards can't be sunk. :)

[violet glen]

But you can trash them, right?

[warped hound]

then i just find a good spot to drop em

[hard wolf]

I'm trying to save as many slugs as possible

[worn oar]

Ionized fuel

[violet glen]

you can infinitely produce them later on after all, so if they were like non-radioactive nuclear waste, that'd be a bit funny

[weary condor]

i love using save editor to answer stupid random questions

[white dawn]

Or keep 'em, of course. Once you have them automated you have literally infinite quantity (depending on your patience and civilization not collapsing, at least). :)

[warped hound]

gonna only keep like maybe 100 or 150 just so i can atleast overclock my factory

[white dawn]

And there's a few thousand available on the map just via slugs, so it's not like you've even got more than is feasible, pre-automation. :)

[worn oar]

5308 if you sloop every slug

[warped hound]

i think im keeping just 100 or 150 which should hopefully last a good bit

just doesnt seem fun to have thousands since then theres no point of having slugs or getting the synthetic power shards

also how many uranium deposits/veins are there ive only found one and i hate the location

[hard wolf]

5 I think, all impure or normal

one of those really tall spires has a node at the top and you can move the uranium with drones

[warped hound]

ik one is in the desert at the top of the cliff thing

[warped hound]

be fun to make the nuclear power plant that imkibitz made but ik my poor laptop would just want to explode

[hard wolf]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3;223886;154541|gameLayer|uraniumImpure;uraniumNormal;uraniumPure

oof :(

train, then?

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots message ive done my "first" storage

[karmic crow]

Wish I learned a lot sooner you could snap foundations to the world grid

I would’ve done so many thing differently

[torn cairn]

this is my favorite game of all time but the assemblers being just slightly bigger than a foundation kind of makes me lose my mind on a regular basis

[cold berry]

Yes yes. I just make a 3x3 blueprint that can run 4 of them and call it a day lol. Outer casings with blueprints help a ton for me in this game.

Stackable and line-able, because it has to be

[karmic crow]

How many modular engines per a minute is sufficient im making 5 adaptive control units per minute currently and not sure if that’s overkill

[white dawn]

I always just target time-to-Space-Elevator delivery. Decide how long you want to have to wait for that delivery to finish, then make the factory which gives you that timing

Obviously there's a hypothetical graph somewhere comparing the extra-time-spent-building-an-even-bigger-factory versus time-saved-on-delivery, but that's my usual way of deciding how big to build SE parts

[hollow turret]

But yea that's a good amount

[cold berry]

I want to go fast

[karmic crow]

So you don’t need modular engines for anything else besides the space elevator wasn’t sure if they would be used to craft something more advanced later on

[worn oar]

I found that just making one machine worth (or whatever you can manage) of each space elevator part before you do a full build is really effective

[spare mountain]

hi chat

[worn oar]

It can tick away while you do the 1200/minute assembly director system build

[white dawn]

Oh, yeah, there's also that, for sure. :D I suspect that that hypothetical graph's break-even point is actually at an awfully-slow production rate. :P

[clear aspen]

wsp

[soft lark]

does anyone know how to program PLC or use codesys

laymans terms: hey guys im going insane can someone please help me

[spare mountain]

wdym 1200/min, oh no im kinda scared for the rest of the game now

[tender panther]

hello

[spare mountain]

hi

[tender panther]

i love satisfactory

[spare mountain]

i do to

at what point are u in the game

[spare mountain]

.

[placid totem]

wouldnt it make more sense for the spiders to be able to crawl on walls and ceilings

the devs could make going in caves so much more horrifying imo

and they should

[weak bloom]

please don't the spiders are already plenty horrifying

[placid totem]

nah nah. its not realistic if i cant see a giant spider on cave ceilings. they should add drop down attacks too, much more realistic

[small crypt]

i had an idea where they should be made to eat your powerlines out in the wild, and then burrow in the ground to ambush you when you go to fix it

[placid totem]

oooo sand trap door spiders

yeah i think more of a horror aspect with them would be awesome

like the devs said they dont want to do base invasions and stuff, but progression of the AI to kill you would be interesting

[small crypt]

finally iron pipe alt

now i can make fully iron motors

[spare mountain]

i kinda need help for somthing

[weary condor]

wsp?

[spare mountain]

its hypertube speed constant or we can increase our speed?

[weary condor]

look up "hypertube cannon" on youtube and look for a video by LGIO

[spare mountain]

i dont talk abt the lauchers, i talk in regular pipe

in a looonng conected one

[weary condor]

yeah its the same mechanic

just point the exit toward a pipe 🤷

[spare mountain]

i see

[weary condor]

you'll naturally decelerate to a certain speed when in a pipe tho

so you'll need to place your boosters sporadically throughout the hypertube system

and ofc going uphill requires more boosters

[spare mountain]

ye but doing so makes it one way

[weary condor]

not entirely

[spare mountain]

i wana take it both way

[weary condor]

can add an entrance to the other end of booster

[spare mountain]

hmmm

is there an other fast way to go?

im still at the begining

[cold berry]

Chat, why should I even bother with path signals?

[weary condor]

if you dont have an issue dont add things

when you have an issue come back to em :)

[cold berry]

That's fair honestly

[weary condor]

thats how I do it

I prefer to do signals reactively rather than proactively, to prevent me going overboard

[cold berry]

I'm thinking of restarting one more time. I got to phase 4 but I was really, really inconsistent with my build quality and also, I have no dedicated space elevator parts manufacturing because I didn't know I'd need so many of the old ones (trying to not look at guides and just casually comment here and play), and also I didn't know about overflow sink setup's

And also also, I wanna tweak the settings a little. And also also also, my setup is just not good for train and truck logistics

[weary condor]

yeah this save I rushed cat tree so my first factories would have overflow asap

[spare mountain]

i hate this game, its 4:24 am, i still wana play but i have school

[weary condor]

I hate this game
its 4am
I still wanna play

average satisfactory experience

[spare mountain]

im honestly scared abt the endgame

[weary condor]

lol dont be

the game is designed so you can take it at your own pace

[spare mountain]

my factory seems alredy amazing

[weary condor]

what takes me 30 minutes could take someone else many hours

and vise versa

[weary condor]

for the sake of your device, feel free to build factories far apart from each other! it doesn't all have to be centralized

[spare mountain]

yeah i see

i did 38 coal reactor in the same place, is that engouth?

[weary condor]

for the whole game? not in a million years

newer machines take more power, forcing you to use newer power methods

such as the many types of fuel or even nuclear

or if you really wanted to you could always max out coal

[small crypt]

if my keybinds stop working one more time after copying machine settings im literally just uninstalling

rippin my hair out over here

[weary condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1468320101387211008/1490275147788062872/togif-36.gif

argh

[spare mountain]

no no, i just completed the phase 2

[weary condor]

38 coal gens can last you until next phase3

but it depends on the player

[spare mountain]

i alredy had 12 near to my main factory

[dense violet]

imo you just find 4 nodes of coal next to water
burn it all, and when you get to mk3 belts , OC the miners so you can make 64 generators

[spare mountain]

could you show me on the map around were it is?

[dense violet]

every start zone has at least 1 spot like that
what zone did you start in?

[spare mountain]

the very first one

i wana screenshot it but idk i cant

can i show you on stream realy quick?

[dense violet]

that's ok, if you're at the giant arch, go north north west into the hills
past a cliff you'll find a circular lake with 4 nodes of coal there

[spare mountain]

uuuhhh

can i just show you please

[dense violet]

there should be a compass at the top of your screen

[dense violet]

#1488544511071096892 message

[dense violet]

this probably helps too #1459381376263655729 message

[spare mountain]

i see

wait that might be littealy where i placed it

OOOOH THERE WERE 4 NODES

ITS AMAZING

[pliant dust]

is there a way to switch satisfactory calculator to see how many a second i could make instead of how many resources to make a surtain amount?

[spare mountain]

idk sorry

im gonna go chat

good night pookies

[worn oar]

Use your scanner to locate coal like you did with iron

Also, you don't have to go to the 4-coal spot. You can take one of the other two nodes and belt/truck it over to water

[spare mountain]

I saw 2, but didnt saw the 2 others

[worn oar]

They're north and slightly west

[hard wolf]

I just connected the input pipes and flooded the system. I really hope this works >w<

[west jackal]

im very close to just doing 26x300 pipes on this factory.. the 600 pipes are being stupid

[weary condor]

loop em

[west jackal]

;-;

[west jackal]

if only it were that simple

they are looped. cobalt and mcgalleon looked at SS and werent able to determine the issue, so they both have the save file and are going to look at it when they have the time, however at this point i feel like it mightve just been easier to split the pipes

[dense violet]

set the inputs you want to use and recipes, then hit maximise https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=fo2rxP7kcKFa5mngTsBc

[weary condor]

well there goes my next suggestion :/

[west jackal]

well it seems to be working now?

i added some extra pumps and it seemed to have fixed it, theyve been running for 30 ish minutes no problem, will see if that continues

of course as soon as i mention it, it breaks

it only dropped off for a second

[torpid mist]

Hi guys I’m pretty new to this game and I just bought it on console, I’m having a little bit or trouble and was wondering if I can share my screen and show my beginner factory. And it would be awesome if you can use VC as well

[feral vector]

wtf lol I added everything I want to automate for phase 4 to one planner and I'll need 62.3 plastic refineries 😂

2643 screws / min too, I gotta search for more hard drives

[cursive crane]

If you instead tell us what you are struggling with, usually beginner factories are pretty simple to fix
Otherwise #1201555265942724758 might be better for that

[torpid mist]

It’s not exactly issues it’s just what to improve

[hard wolf]

I tried adding valves to help with sloshing but heard in a video that they can do more harm than good. is this still the case? I'm also building a water tower but wonder if it would be better to zero all of the clock speeds and let the fluids fill up

I am piping in more water than is required

[dense violet]

valves tend to either do nothing or hurt things
water towers just give headlift. They don't fix anything

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images of what you're trying to do

[twin parcel]

uh guys , which is more rare? bauxite or quartz crytals?

[dense violet]

it shows on hte wiki how much of everythign there is

and there's different recipes so relaly depends what you're doing

[rich parrot]

There is less bauxite on the map.

[torpid mist]

Yo is there any expert players that I can VC??

[dense violet]

you've asked a number of times, vast majority of people don't. You'd have better luck posting images of what your'e doing to do in a qna post

[torpid mist]

my bad I just have a really hard time understanding this game. Time to goto Reddit 😔

[dense violet]

I really don't recommend reddit.
tons of bad info that doesn't get cut out of the community because people can't talk real time

the #1038092680493801533 will get you a lot more accurate info

[rich parrot]

Step 1: Build foundations.
Step 2: Set up main logistics arteries.
Step 3: Place machines.
Step 4: Decorate.

[dense violet]

I'm pretty sure people on the reddit still talk about mk2 pipe bugs, bugs that don't exist

[feral vector]

hmm pure copper ingot vs encased industrial pipe, my math right? encased industrial pipe is just like ~17% more concrete efficient but pure copper ingot is more than 2x as efficient going from copper ore to ingots? not too worried about the water cost hmm

[feral vector]

people will help you here just not on VC

well maybe someone will help on VC but you'll have more luck just posting some images and text

[torpid mist]

Like I just don’t know what’s most efficient I’m watching all these YouTube vids and just can’t sit there for an hour to barely get any information

[west jackal]

dont worry about "whats most effecient" untill you can form your own thoughts my man

the only things that matter, are, diluted fuel, and encased pipe alt

[torpid mist]

WHAT even is those

[rich parrot]

Videos are for inspiration, for getting ideas of styles. You learn by doing.

[torpid mist]

I’m trying to unlock coal rn

[dense violet]

1st - tons of videos on YT are shit
2nd - the milestones are a tutorial , you're there to learn and make mistakes

[feral vector]

you're gonna go crazy trying to min max your first playthrough

[west jackal]

then you are way too early into the game to worry about whats effececient ❤️

[dense violet]

3rd - ask a specific question in your post 😛 https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1491648319443828878

[torpid mist]

Why can’t YOUU

[dense violet]

I can't ask questions for you

[torpid mist]

No like

[west jackal]

just make the items you need, in managable quantities, and if you have questions you can ask, but we arent mind readers

[torpid mist]

You VC me @dense violet

[feral vector]

encased industrial pipe?

[dense violet]

I've been helping people on this server for years. I can count the number of times I've VCed people on one hand 😛 plus I'm running around the house

[west jackal]

and i second Cobalt ont he reddit/yt thing, reddit sucks for information, and youtube is cool to watch others play but generally dont go into good detail about building effecient factories

[dense violet]

just ask specific questions!

[west jackal]

yeah the alt

good alt... and heavy encased frame very nice

[dense violet]

you'll also learn literally 1000x as much and as fast trying thigns out

[feral vector]

hmm really, I was gonna take pure copper ingots over that

[west jackal]

pure copper is amazing if you have the power to handle it

just get both 🤷‍♂️

[feral vector]

they are on the same hard drive lol

[twin parcel]

So it's more worth it to stick to normal aluminum Ingots over pure aluminum Ingots?

[torpid mist]

Guys how does coal stuff even work

And should I create a factory to produce nails

[dense violet]

depends if you think it's worth bringing in more crystal. Usually easier to just process more bauxite

[dense violet]

ok are you trying to make coal power?

[west jackal]

get more drives

[west jackal]

i do pure but thats just me

[torpid mist]

I’m about to

[west jackal]

im also processing all 12300 bauxite though

[feral vector]

I need to build some shit I explored a ton recently lol

[torpid mist]

I have water near me kinda

[west jackal]

there are no nails in this game

[torpid mist]

Sorry screws

[west jackal]

assuming you mean screws? id never recommend making a dedicated screw factory. build them on site

[feral vector]

encased industrial pipe just saves concrete right? 6 pipes is the same steel input as 3 beams?

[west jackal]

indeed

[torpid mist]

Ok ok

[west jackal]

encased beams are concrete hungry...

[feral vector]

hmm I guess just straight up 17% discount on concrete is a pretty good recipe

[west jackal]

concrete is most plentiful resources iirc

but also

you can use iron pipe alt and bypass coal 🙂

just need copious ammounts of iron 🙂

[feral vector]

hmm

I'll need like 1200 copper ore / min for all this phase 4 stuff that seems harder to deal with than needing more concrete

[west jackal]

eh not in my experience, but yes theoretically

[feral vector]

I swear I had wet concrete on one of my hard drives

[west jackal]

phase 4? im assuming youre t7/8? you shouldnt really be worrying about 1200 copper ore ngl

[feral vector]

I'm not too worried I just want to actually use some alts instead of hoarding them

[west jackal]

i think im doing around 2400 copper ore for my pasta?

[west jackal]

absolutely

but there are more hard drives than alts

so you can get all alts

[feral vector]

I'd really rather build stuff than explore right now, I did a pretty big exploration session and I don't have anything from t7/t8 automated

can you see which alts you unlocked somewhere? idk wtf I did, I loaded an old save and I do have wet concrete in my hard drive library, there's no way I'd pick the other option on that hard drive

alright nvm I do have it in my library I must have been doing something stupid

[west jackal]

you cant search alts afaik, but you can check each recipe you have to see the alts

(or just look in recipe selection of constructor/assembler/etc)

[feral vector]

ok that works well enough I guess. seems kinda ridiculous they don't have a list of unlocked alts though

[fiery root]

Alright i found water and a good chunk of coal. Costs me only 1,5km of way and fighting an active war out there

[west jackal]

agreed

[west jackal]

finally!!!

[feral vector]

oh well, devs can't prioritize everything 😛

[feral vector]

hell yeah coal power is such a step up

[fiery root]

And there is some leaking Gas nearby aswell. I guess thats gonna be important sooner or later

[worn oar]

You have a long ways until you need to care about nitrogen gas, don't worry

Tier 8 for it

[fiery root]

Damn thats quite a while

Little question fellas

I always wanted to Set up my coal first and then expand the factory because with more Power i can build more machines

But it seems that said machines need quite a while at their present state to Producer all that i need for my dear coal facility

[worn oar]

What's the question

[fiery root]

Should i slack and wait for everything i need to be eventually done? So i can rebuild all factory without caring too much about Power and cable salad

Or should i do that already now before New Power is coming

[west jackal]

huh

[worn oar]

There are many ways to play as there are players, but I would actually recommend not rebuilding at all

[west jackal]

well you should setup coal before expanding in my opinion

[dense violet]

go and explore while items are being made. Unlock recipes

[west jackal]

yeah, and thats just my/our opinion, you can play however you want

[worn oar]

Leave your old stuff as a museum, go explore and exploit new stuff, and build new factories, keep the milestone unlocks rolling, etc

But again, you can play however you want because it's a well-designed game that rewards variety

[cursive crane]

You can check all the recipes/what you have unlocked on SCIM in a neat little list. Can also unlock/lock them iirc if you want to... "reverse" a decision

[fiery root]

Intresting. But the Museum technique would take away four of my iron nodes

But i really need a better hub point
My area is prettt limited there

[worn oar]

There are 127 iron nodes in the game, and 34 are in your starting zone

If you want to rebuild stuff, then wait until you have a new belt, logistics, miner, machine, etc tech so that you're at least getting something out of it. Rebuilding to remove spaghetti is silly

[fiery root]

Oh i see. Everything i watched about this game told me that spaghetti is a cardinal sin

[worn oar]

Nooooo, spaghetti is just as valid as orderly factories, and just as fun.

Watching tutorials and guides on how you "should" play Satisfactory is removing half the fun, I'm not kidding

[jolly solstice]

the con is that if you come back after a long time of not playing you won't understand a thing going on in a spaghettified factory because of all the mess

[worn oar]

This is also fun; you can simply grab the closest belt of what you want and split it over

[jolly solstice]

but what if it breaks some carefully calculated input or output rate that will massively hinder the factory's efficiency 👀

[fiery root]

I understand. Thanks fellas! I like my spaghetti i keep my spaghetti

[worn oar]

Then you create another factory of that thing and the spaghetti grows :D

[jolly solstice]

😨

the endless cycle of spaghetti

[fiery root]

Spaghettification

[worn oar]

If you end up not liking the spaghetti later that is also fine. But please try to play it before you optimize the fun out of it, that's like the only thing that I would say you "need" to do. Save the tutorials for if you get stuck for a while

[feral vector]

Perfect thanks

[fiery root]

Aight!

Also, can i unlock the actual rifle before the coal?

[feral vector]

When you do stuff your own way you get to solve problems that you created which is pretty interesting lol

[worn oar]

If you explore a bunch yeah, but I would get coal first

[fiery root]

I would feel safer if i get to that hell on the xeno planet arned with more than my silly little gun

[feral vector]

Probably the biggest tip is rush coal power so you don't have to play lumberjack simulator for too long

[fiery root]

I encountered a thing that ate 10 of my bolts

[feral vector]

I didn't go too crazy looking stuff up but I kinda wish I went in a bit more blind

[feral vector]

Yeah some stuff is tanky. There are some areas you might want to avoid till you got better guns

[fiery root]

I need ti step through that hell of 2D cats and bees and tanky fellas to my coal

[worn oar]

Each different biome has stronger or weaker monsters. Without spoilers, one of the toughest areas is pretty close to the grassy fields

[fiery root]

Damnn

And those damned poisen flowers

[west jackal]

those are easy with nobbies

just.. find sulfur 😉

[fiery root]

I found a wreck and thought those two aplha alien spitting were it.
But then i saw them 10 cats and 5 of them flowers

I demand a airstrike

[worn oar]

Aw man I lost spitter remains somewhere on the forest floor and now I have to deforest the whole place until I find them

[west jackal]

why? they respawn

[worn oar]

I don't waste

[small crypt]

#screenshots message 4 hours for modular frames and motors, what an incredibly and exceedingly tedious and fucking boring experience

it's like 2% factory gameplay 98% messing around with belts

#screenshots message modular frames and motors, all made completely from iron

[cursive crane]

.... that is factory gameplay

If it took you 4 hours to make that you are either
A. Sorely underprepared
Or
B. OCD af [welcome to the party] and needed to perfect every belt lol

[pure wharf]

where can i go to report a bug?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[small crypt]

i dont care about the belts being perfect i just hide them, all i do is make sure they dont clip

the top part took a combined maybe 15 minutes

[worn oar]

You chose to overcomplicate it TBH

I just throw early assemblers on the ground and hook them up

[small crypt]

that would take 100x longer

[cursive crane]

Do you have the hoverpack?

[small crypt]

i know because thats what came before

[small crypt]

not yet im only tier 6 at the moment

ceiling conveyor supports being completely worthless, not being able to nudge snapped splitters/mergers, and no "alignment" lines when placing them in the air sucked the most time away

[cursive crane]

So A it is then lol
Nothing wrong with that, just welcome to satisfactory, things only get longer from where you are, make sure to use every tool at your disposal, check the equipment shop/mam for things like that

Satisfactory is such a great introduction to the genre, but most sf players would tear their hair out at foundry/factorio lol

[small crypt]

i looked through to the endgame for processing lines and they're all like, toddler simple, it's just fighting with belts

and snapping, just the building mechanics in general

[faint willow]

#screenshots is there a nudge option that's more refined than just doing ctrl + arrow keys? because this is u p s e t t i n g me

[small crypt]

it should just snap to the port

[twin parcel]

ah i see, do people use quartz nitrification for silica or they just use cheap silica?

[faint willow]

nope, it's adhering to the foundations beneath it

normally i'd just hold ctrl and it'd snap to it but now it's just snapping to the assumed grid

[small crypt]

is your machine off the grid somehow

[faint willow]

it's off-center a tad but that's because it's locking to the ore deposit

i don't think i can nudge miners

[small crypt]

oh yeah

hide miners in the basement and just run a belt

[feral vector]

how could this possibly take 4 hours? I'm godawful and slow at this game and even I'd do it faster than that lol hmm

[small crypt]

#satisfactory message

[worn oar]

I think smart mod or infinite nudge can do it? I'm not sure

[feral vector]

you're trying to do it in a really weird way? if you're already doing a floating platform just have a second foundation underneath and run everything on the floor?

or like... just run stuff along the ground and extend the conveyor mounts a bit to go over top of other belts? the conveyor lifts being that long seems like it would make things weird?

I'm pretty new but I managed to hide shit under the floor pretty easily

[faint willow]

yeah i might have to just download a mod... but first im going to sleep. my brain is physically incapable of handling this game right now.
i spent six hours trying to build a smelting array only to realize my superpower of wildly overcomplicating things came full-swing and realizing i probably don't need 20 smelters if they're all going to feed into one belt and then re-split off into another 20 smelters for plates and rods.

[small crypt]

fuck, a second floor

...im going to bed

[feral vector]

even without a second floor I think things being closer to the roof would be easier to work with

[worn oar]

Usually changing the distance or angling myself so that I'm on the far side of a straight line between the machines fixes it, but it can be fiddly.

[feral vector]

enjoy your well earned rest lol

half of the lessons I've learned in this game so far come with wasting an excessive amount of time 😛

I made some insane designs for smart sorting stuff into storage before I realized I can just run a sushi belt instead of one belt with each item 😂

phase 4 is still killing me I haven't even played today just sat on satisfactory tools trying to plan stuff

[faint willow]

im also learning a very valuable lesson of not spending more than a few seconds looking in either #screenshots or the subreddit for satisfactory builds because ill become wildly overwhelmed very quickly.

[feral vector]

it's okay if you don't try to emulate it and just want some ideas but yeah I just feel bad when I see the stuff people make

[small crypt]

well they started close to the roof but every output i moved a y level down so they wouldnt clip, but yeah tomorrow when i move the rest of my stuff to tile-able scalable lines like these ill do the floor thing, because regular supports and a grid to snap to would have saved me 3.5 of the 4 hours i spent squinting and staring into the sky. GL in your phase 4, one step at a time

[feral vector]

I hope I'm giving you good advice, I'm pretty new 😛

it seems like having the foundation underneath would solve a lot of the tedium though

[small crypt]

only rule i would follow is make sure that whatever you build can be pasted at the end of itself infinitely without faffing about

[faint willow]

hard for me to fathom someone building a literal coliseum for generating several hundred thousand watts of power when i'm still in the mode of trying to figure out how to make three iron miners fit into 20 smelters smoothly.

[dense violet]

process each node individually, clock the smelters to do it

[feral vector]

isn't this more of a factorio thing

you can always just make another floor if you need space hmm

[worn oar]

You're off by a few orders of magnitude. Several hundred thousand watts isn't enough to power a single lightbulb in Satisfactory.

[feral vector]

I haven't had much luck trying to add on to existing factories I just build new ones and keep the old ones feeding storage

[dense violet]

that's the worst thing I would say for this game

[feral vector]

I feel obligated to help people figure this out when I see it after how long you took explaining it to me lmao

[dense violet]

create dedicated systems. Belt throughput is very minimal in this game

very fair

[faint willow]

im brain farting on how to reference my old screenshot but i had a picture of how i did the miners belting into four lanes.

[copper quail]

I havent played this game in years, anyone know what the biggest changes have been?

i just booted up my old save and things are not working haha

[feral vector]

one thing to know is that you don't have to split it up perfectly evenly

[small crypt]

i mean if you have fun redesigning everything every time you upgrade miners, then more power to you, i'll stick to just adding a blueprint to the end of my manifolds

[feral vector]

dimensional depots and somersloops probably?

[copper quail]

never heard of it sounds cool

[faint willow]

#screenshots message

This was the picture I was referring to

[dense violet]

just start a new save. nodes and recipes have changed

[copper quail]

i indeed had to start a new save today

[dense violet]

just treat the milestones as a tutorial and plug along 🙂 you'll get there

[feral vector]

you trying to find out yourself or you want to know what they are lol

[copper quail]

ill figure it out soon enough

i just wanted to know if i could salvage my factoryu

[small crypt]

i was surprised how early depots are

[copper quail]

or start entirely from fresh

but as you mentioned, i have miners placed where their arent ores

and stuff isnt working properly 🙁

[small crypt]

yeah start fresh

[faint willow]

feel like im gonna have half a billion unfinished saves until i get to a point im comfortable

[feral vector]

I don't think this comes up that often? like I'm not sure why I would even bother sending more iron to my starter factory

not exactly confident in my opinion though lol

[copper quail]

thats why i make my stuff modular

[feral vector]

the game doesn't punish you too much though, you're not gonna run out of resources or get swarmed by biters

[small crypt]

right now i make 2 motors per minute, and 6 modular frames per minute with this #screenshots message

when i get higher level miners and belts, i can just paste blueprints onto the end of each manifold and boom, scaled up

[feral vector]

not much reason to start new unless you enjoy it. anything you can do in your new file you can do in the existing one with a bonus of having free stuff coming in from your existing factories

[copper quail]

i know belongs in unrelated but holy shit yes satisfactrory is so much more chill

compared to factorio

[faint willow]

oh im aware, it's moreso getting to a point of no return because of the time it'd take to rip out and rebuild.

[feral vector]

if you need more motors and modular frames, you can just build them as part of a production chain for the new part 🤔

[small crypt]

i will, these are my lines FOR motors and frames

[feral vector]

just leave it and make a new factory hmm

[feral vector]

that works too yeah, just scale up production on parts and send them over to new production lines

[small crypt]

like if i have a line for say, reinforced plates, i dont leech off that line to feed another. i scale it up when i can, but if something else needs them i make them at that node as part of the higher level line, so im not using my stored materials, that gets messy af

[feral vector]

yeah I gotcha, I do the same I just don't keep them all together

[small crypt]

but if/when i get new miners and belts ill just swap out everything in all my factories to make them bigger and faster

[feral vector]

if some new thing needs reinforced plates I just have the assemblers for those in an area with that stuff

[small crypt]

sigh, every game i play if i have extended periods of free time, it's a cycle of play game until night time -> lay down and watch videos of game and talk about game on my phone -> repeat

[reef basin]

I don't touch existing factories

[small crypt]

why wouldnt you scale up? it's free

[meager jacinth]

im having an issue where water is in the pipes but its not filling up the buffer, anyone know how to fix?

[radiant stirrup]

i need help, i am 300h into satisfactory but i dont seem to understand trains or how to use them or why i should even use them.

If i use them to transport material for Production, how doe i know how many items per minute i am transporting, isnt always better to use conveyor belts and or to prdouce localy and just get the materials when i need them

[feral vector]

do you have enough lift?

[meager jacinth]

yea

somehow flushing the whole thing a few times fixed it

[feral vector]

pipes are so weird lol

[feral vector]

I mean, the place with my oil refineries is really far away from my starter base, I used a train to get the plastic and rubber back. maybe if I just ran one belt there it would be okay but that doesn't scale up?

[violet mango]

yeah...liquids in this game used to annoy me to the point of just using the all liquids are gasses mod lol. not so much now, but still pretty sloshy

[feral vector]

and my usage of trains is like incredibly lazy and basic, you can move materials around really well with them if you know how to set it up properly

[violet mango]

trains are useful for transporting bulk resources over long distances. they're good if you have mutiple dedicated factories for specific resources

[reef basin]

why would I scale up if I don't need it?

and it's not "free", it costs time I can spend on other projects

[radiant stirrup]

but how do i know how much material i am transporting per m

[meager jacinth]

nvm its bugged again idk why

[reef basin]

you're transporting as much as you put in

[feral vector]

yeah that's my thing, if I'm gonna make more constructors for something I might as well just do it with the nwe factory?

[reef basin]

(if not, add more trains)

[hard ivy]

Trains have 2 main benefits

1. You can carry tens of thousands of items per minute over a single rail
2. If you build your rails right, they're expandable. You can just add an intersection, a short piece of track and a station and start moving items from that station to another one kilometres away

[violet mango]

luca, if you check the cargo depot you attach to the train stations, it should show your average throughput just above the inventory of it

[feral vector]

the freight station or whatever it's called where you drop stuff off tracks this doesn't it?

and you can always just add more cars if you need to hmm

[feral vector]

I guess you already said that lol my bad

[hard ivy]

You can calculate it if you want

[feral vector]

I really should set up more trains

[violet mango]

i think theres also throughput sensors you can attach to conveyors now right? or is that still just a mod?

[supple canopy]

for a single freight car you can do (stack size of item*32)/(throughput you're trying to haul), and it gives you the maximum roundtrip time. Then get a stopwatch and if your roundtrip time is longer than that, then you're losing on throughput on that freightcar. In that case just add another train

[feral vector]

they are in the awesome shop now

[violet mango]

okay i thought so, but i havent played unmodded since right after 1,0 so i wasnt sure

[feral vector]

so one car will do 32 stacks?

[supple canopy]

it doesn't work for trains because it only calculates over one minute I think? I've been screaming at people this would be a useless addition to the game

[hard ivy]

Pretty useless for trains though
Unless you record them for like an hour and average that
But a 1 min average doesn't tell you much about the train's throughput

[feral vector]

hmm good to know

[supple canopy]

it has a capacity of 32 stacks yes

[reef basin]

yeah, though since they calculate running average, they may be misleading

[feral vector]

trains have a built in items per minute tracking thing though don't they? that seemed pretty accurate when I checked it with my trucks idk if it's similar

[supple canopy]

(unless it did a 10min calculation but of course it doesn't)

[reef basin]

I mean trains are "you put X in, you get X out, if not, add more trains/cars"

[violet mango]

ohhh..ooh....yeah. that seems almost pointless in that state then. all you need is math to figure that out otherwise xD

[supple canopy]

yes I've heard they were accurate but never really did testing

[dense violet]

the come in bursts, I wouldn't rely on them

[violet mango]

seems to be pretty accurate. was eyeballing it today, had 144 rubber/min coming in and it was just barely too much flow for a tier 2 belt

[dense violet]

better check is to see if the pick up location is backing up or not

[feral vector]

hmm I guess with my truck the round trip was real short

[dense violet]

short round trip trucks can have HUGE throughputs

per truck

[feral vector]

yeah I just mean the tracking thingy is probably more accurate for those

[violet mango]

i've never really used those much, but i definitely will once 1.2 gets out of experimental. actual proper pathing is a gamechanger

[feral vector]

I had a miner limited to output 180 / min and the truck station always read pretty close to 180 / min

[feral vector]

I used them once early game and then just used belts till I got a train lol

[violet mango]

same haha

[feral vector]

I honestly probably should have used them to bring SAM and quartz and stuff back to my base, those belts I ran were kinda ridiculous

[small crypt]

i have some pretty insane coal belts

found pure coal but small water, need big water, big water far away, belts.

thank goodness for infinite height lifts too

[hard ivy]

These get pretty close to the actual average because they average for much longer than the belt monitors

[bleak mica]

Can trains move automatically back and forth along the same track? As in 1 line that is not looping

manually I can

[hard ivy]

They need a locomotive at both ends but yeah

[bleak mica]

nice

i feel i'm not using trains correctly

I have 3 separate lines with tracks that don't cross ever even though they go roughly to the same place

[feral vector]

hey if it's working it's not that bad lol

[dense violet]

make 2 lane rail, it'll be a lot easier

[feral vector]

I still have a half completed 2 lane rail

still just the one train going back and forth with rubber and plastic gotta figure out how to use them properly soon with all this phase 4 stuff

[bleak mica]

how

[dense violet]

like a road. Or any train line near you

[dense violet]

a really simple example #1487321875922030722 message

[bleak mica]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[feral vector]

saving this for later thanks

I watched a video on path signals and block signals but it got prety ridiculous pretty fast lol

[dense violet]

the 'simple' part of that is just zooping foundations the whole way and printing train towers along the way. It's very fast to connect them up

[dense violet]

you never have to use path signals. You can just use block everywhere

[bleak mica]

Ok so, I have a train with 2 freight carts which grabs smart plating from one station, motor from another and brings it to a station with manufacturers another train which grabs stators from same location that serves motors (but i built a separate station for it), grabs plastic from the same place that manufactures engines and then goes to another station

I don't get how 2 lanes will help tbh

[feral vector]

yeah that's what I heard, I'm sure block would be sufficient for what I'm going to set up

[bleak mica]

what's a train tower?

[dense violet]

if you follow that link I shared , in the image there's foundations in a line, on top are little 'towers' that hold the rails up

keeps them very neat and tidy

[bleak mica]

is it unlockable?

or is it a blueprint

i just made a stupid pillar that's very difficult to add rails to lol

anyway here is my train track spaghetti
#screenshots message

[dense violet]

just a blueprint

[dense violet]

yeah, if you pre zoop a line of foundations it's easier to not have spag

[bleak mica]

if i have two tracks I would still need two stations at the same place right? one for loading and one for unloading?

I cant use one station for both

right?

[dense violet]

well you could have different platforms both load and unload

just not on the same car at the same time

[bleak mica]

what if train on the track has different amount of freight carts

ugh

[oblique aspen]

I would like if load or unload would be part of the train schedule and not the platform itself, but alas

[hard wolf]

I've completed phase 3 for the first time >w<

also, life hack: get portable miner alt recipe, overflow plates and steel pipes into an assembler, belt that into a buffer (optional) and a depot, don't ever have to think about handcrafting portable miners again

[reef basin]

Don't even need to overflow, just make a small separate production

[hard wolf]

I like that overflow makes it very low priority

[reef basin]

I like things stable 🙂

[willow pond]

i still think that full 8m concrete foundations should provide radiation shielding

[reef basin]

that would require reimplementing radiation from scratch, so not viable

[hard ivy]

That would make the calculations like an order of magnitude less efficient

[willow pond]

i know, it's just a fantasy

[hard wolf]

asbestos foundations and lead nodes when? 🤔

[willow pond]

would be hilarious to be walking down a hallway and seeing neon green and blue particles flying out of an open doorway

[obsidian zodiac]

Lung Disease DLC 2030

[willow pond]

just step into the [redacted] and it'll clear right up

[fiery pewter]

Making cigars out of biomass when?

[cedar iris]

woah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091869794640343070/1375999973031804948/togif-13.gif

no embed?

https://tenor.com/view/no-embed-gif-11734251878080232128

[reef basin]

no, and your messages are perfect example why it was disabled in the first place

[cedar iris]

did i say something wrong?

[prime basin]

Radiation should give us cancer instead of instant damage, and we just start growing masses that show up in multiplayer and then we become radioactive and give others cancer and then the entire world is filled with radiation, infinite power source, true efficiency, and also the masses can be harvested for biomass lol

[cedar iris]

but biomass is infinite anyway

you can kill fauna for remains, process remains into protein, the process protein into biomass, and process it further into solid biofuel if you wish

[prime basin]

yeah but its radioactive biomass

[cedar iris]

:P

[prime basin]

INFINITE POWER

[cedar iris]

finite*

[prime basin]

nah

the pioneer is immortal and has cancer, infinite power

[cedar iris]

fantaties at another level be like

[prime basin]

*unfinite

[cedar iris]

thats not a word

[prime basin]

thats the joke :l

[merry rapids]

where can i find better fuel for my generators? im feeding them leaves now..

[cedar iris]

craft the leaves into biomass

craft biomass into solid biofuel if available

[rich parrot]

Research solid biofuel

[cedar iris]

its more efficient

[prime basin]

wood

[cedar iris]

killing fauna is quite good as well

[reef basin]

it's just that when embeds were enabled, every third message was either a reaction gif, or something that should go to #screenshots (people showing off their builds). The chat was unreadable as a result

[cedar iris]

you need the MAM to actually use the remains

[cedar iris]

average group chats be like

[reef basin]

well we love our chats to be readable 🙂

[cedar iris]

true

[hard wolf]

I've got all all but control system development in tier 7, haven't touched tier 8, am working on my first aluminum factory, and just picked up the sloppy alumina alt. any alts I should scan for?

[prime basin]

what if instead of sloppy alumina, we had sloppy Joes?

[hard wolf]

sloppy joes aren't gonna save puppies and kittens :/

[dense violet]

for aluminum?
pure ingot is often convenient

Electrode srap as well

[prime basin]

ficsit never wastes, the pioneer will find a way

hear me out

what if