satisfactory

[feral vector]

one for concrete definitely isn't enough but I always keep some stacks of concrete in my inventory

[summer smelt]

With current production, it takes 111h to complete phase 2 smart plates : D. 100x is so fun

[normal orbit]

should make more :p

[summer smelt]

Yeah i did unlock tractors, better miners and belts. I can go crazy

[peak vortex]

Oi. Im on experimental and my controller stopped working on pc. Worked fine for the past week

Any workarounds?

[wise junco]

#satisfactory-experimental

[worn oar]

It's now your responsibility to spread out like a virus, stopping only to refill building supplies and mop up the wildlife. Make the grey goo proud

[small crypt]

have to wonder if "damage to ficsit property" means the suit, or you

[reef basin]

yes

[worn oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5OogSI8Wo

[summer smelt]

stop to refill? What it is? Some kind of new item?

[worldly zinc]

any idea when 1.2 will come out of experimental?

[reef basin]

when it's ready

[cold berry]

I couldnt tell you what it means but It means something to me

[worldly zinc]

ty was hoping it'd be done before my birthday on the 25th lol

[reef basin]

yeah that's like 0% chance

[summer smelt]

It's around 6 week from experiemental release

I think UPD 7 it was almost 9. Some update it was really long time

[worldly zinc]

appreciate the info

[humble osprey]

Hi, im on an old roblox game where there is factory but the community is not as dedicated as this one for them so i came here to ask help to develop a factory optimized to its limit in that game, could anyone help me?

[small crypt]

every time i think something is far away, it isnt

[fluid sapphire]

@deft notch looks like you're either a time traveler or your system clock is wrong

[reef basin]

sounds like #off-topic-general

[humble osprey]

my bad

[elder oracle]

is there enough Hard drives to get all of the alternate recipes?

[tall lantern]

yes, with spare

[elder oracle]

aight

[worn oar]

33 spare HDDs

[tall lantern]

lol no

more like 7

[cursive crane]

not including the ones you could potentially buy from the awesome shop [dont do it its not necessary]

[fringe shadow]

yo im in phase 4 now, i wanna remove EVERY factory of mine and built with mk 3 and stuff, is there a good map or yt video where u should build what item

[tall lantern]

that sounds like a terrible idea so I hope not lol

why throw away three whole phases of stuff

[cursive crane]

scan for resources and plan accordingly

[fringe shadow]

bec every factory i built isnt good xd

[tall lantern]

they worked well enough to get you this far

[fringe shadow]

bruh that will take 10 hours+

[fringe shadow]

ye

[tall lantern]

leave 'em be and build new, no need to tear down a working factory

not like you'll run out of map resources

[cursive crane]

you can use the interactive map on scim otherwise..

[tall plover]

dont shoot yourself in the foot like that

[fringe shadow]

ye i wanna do like 1 pure iron node with mk 3 miner for iron plates, rods, screws and the basic stuff from phase 0 yk? so i can have soo much more iron for a giga factory later

[tall lantern]

you say that as if it wouldn't take even longer than that to delete and rebuild what you have

[fringe shadow]

i dont have that much lol

[cursive crane]

dude wants to restart so he can make full use of one pure node

😂

[tall plover]

i spent about 30 hours in 2 days for my energy setup

technically 33 hrs

[fringe shadow]

nuclear?

[tall lantern]

there are 46 pure iron nodes on the map, you'll live 😅

[tall plover]

n o

[fringe shadow]

which power plant takes so long ?

[tall lantern]

any if you keep tabbing out of the game into other stuff like discord

[fringe shadow]

xd

[tall plover]

640 fuel generators

[cursive crane]

pick a couple and go from there.
the game is designed to make you solve logistical problems with vehicles and belts, there is no meta location

[tall plover]

and supplying them

[cursive crane]

ever built a 12k iron ingot factory
#screenshots message
this is a fourth of it

[fringe shadow]

why would u need that much 😭 why dont do nuclear

[fringe shadow]

loll

[tall lantern]

rocket fuel just be like that

[fringe shadow]

thats 160k power..

[sharp hatch]

guys are there any lfp ds server for satis?

[cursive crane]

wut

[sharp hatch]

looking for players

basicly a server for finding duos

[cursive crane]

#1201555265942724758

[sharp hatch]

ou shit

thanks

[summer smelt]

Tried to look alloy recipes? Single OC foundry 187.5/min

And no messing with water

[fringe shadow]

69.400 thats all iron on the map with slugs

that doesnt look like much tbh

[umbral pulsar]

until you realise how many mk1 belts itd take to move it all

[fringe shadow]

i would just do everything with mk7

or trains

[umbral pulsar]

still 69 belts needed

[fringe shadow]

ye

[umbral pulsar]

and thats not including the pure ores in refineries that like double or triple ur ores

[shy furnace]

Do enemies respawn or can i need to hunt them to extinction?

[remote marsh]

they respawn

[shy furnace]

cool

[tall plover]

ill do nuclear next

also why not

im playing a mod called platform expansion program

technically i have infinite resources so i can be wasteful

thats why im making 4800 Ionized Fuel per min

(300 Power Shards + 4800 Rocket Fuel)

[floral sparrow]

How many different train car types are there? Haven't unlocked trains yet

[fringe shadow]

what does that do?

ah this

i played that also

[forest hound]

i was just making a sandbox world and i noticed it say theres portals??

[next ivy]

sure

[forest hound]

is it just like a transportation for items and people thing?

[next ivy]

only people

[reef basin]

just people

[forest hound]

o ok

[reef basin]

teleporting items would be op

[next ivy]

then dont make teleportation a concept in the game

nonsensical game / world design

[reef basin]

one

[fallen plaza]

they get rid of fluid cars?

[reef basin]

no?

[normal orbit]

same car for items or fluids

[reef basin]

there's just one type of car, you can load anything into it

[normal orbit]

just get loaded with a box or a tanker

[fallen plaza]

oh yeah, 2 types of platforms, sorry

[elder oracle]

for the next April fools update, you guys should apply ragdoll physics to everything. (except for terrain)

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots can someone check pls

[elder oracle]

It’s just a scanner

[fringe shadow]

oh thats nice, where do i get it? quartz mam?

[cursive crane]

Resource efficiency, if you are weak and cant handle pipes sure go that route. But doubling your iron ore into more ingots just because you built a couple water extractors is the better route to go unless you want to build a mapwide train route to collect all the iron nodes

[cursive crane]

pure iron ingot turns that into well over 100k ingots

[small crypt]

lets say im making 15 steel beams and 40 steel pipes/minute, but now i need encased industrial beams, do i use the beams im buffering from that setup or do i go find another iron and coal node

[fringe shadow]

with foundry?

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch iron+ingot

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=iron+ingot

[elder oracle]

It’s called the AWESOME shop

[fringe shadow]

okayy ty

[cursive crane]

pure iron ingot recipe turns 35 ore into 65 ingots. Uses a refinery and some water

[elder oracle]

[cursive crane]

always more
but if you need a little bit to get started use what you got

[normal orbit]

iirc you need to unlock oscillators in mam then buy it in awesome shop

[brave grove]

why do the hypertubes do the particle accelerator thing

[reef basin]

why do the thing, do trains

[unborn berry]

@loud lark

[unborn berry]

get pinged

[light harness]

hello

[fringe shadow]

any tips to make builds more beautiful? i always do a platform in the sky and thats it xd

[small crypt]

is it just me or do splitters on lifts just not line up with the same height as a lift input

[flat wedge]

Yeah that’s something that will never stop annoying me

[fringe shadow]

is there a website with a map, where i can check which nodes i used or do i have to use radar towers around the map :/ ?

[leaden turret]

scim, linked in #welcome

[flat wedge]

Satisfactory calculator

Website with an interactive map

[light harness]

omg i do that too, I made a post about it if you want to check when people say stuff https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1490855383802318900

[fringe shadow]

❤️

[fringe shadow]

ik but even if i put in my world data, it doesnt say if i used the node or not

[light harness]

make sure its the latest save and also, im pretty sure it doesnt tell you, but you should know because im pretty sure it displays buildings

hey is there any way to change the scale of UI in the game, i struggle with reading

okay i figured out how to change the HUD but settings menus and etc still are small

[small crypt]

i feel like i have to break and replace half the belts and mergers/splitters anytime i place blueprints

less work to build from stratch atp

[forest hound]

is there a way to auto connect train tracks when placing blueprints?

[next briar]

Eyy rq question i feel so dumb asking 😭

Basically i got 3 foundries making 120 steel ingots per minute so i can feed those into 8 constructor to make steel beams yk

That would be themost efficient way right like when their all full

I asked chat gpt and it said i could only use 2 i mean help😭

Oh the steel beams need 60 per min n take 4 sec to produce

[small crypt]

dont feel dumb for asking, feel dumb for asking chatgpt 💀

[hushed frigate]

120/15 is how many constructors you need, unless you’re over/underclocking any

So yes, 8 constructors

[next briar]

Uhh

[small crypt]

120 steel/minute is 2 beam constructors

[next briar]

So 8 r right like i asked another guy n he said 2

[hushed frigate]

Whoops, got the input and output confused

Yeah it’s 2 constructors only

[next briar]

Ahh damm gonna be slow asf😭

[hushed frigate]

For 30 beams/min

[light harness]

hey is there a way to auto default foundations to the concrete material

[small crypt]

pick concrete in the dropdown

[ornate saffron]

in your build menu you can set the materiel then pout it on a hotbar

[fluid sapphire]

Go to the build menu, each subsection has a material select drop down menu

[next briar]

But it feels so inefficient yk like using 2 normal iron ores and 1 pure coal ore for 5 versatile Frameworks per minute😭

[light harness]

i just figured it out

i want to change all current foundations...,

[ornate saffron]

hit X

then select the material. then youll have to spam it

[wise junco]

hewwo

[fringe shadow]

how do i pick it up? #screenshots

[light harness]

damn, thats fine ig

[light harness]

the dismantle crate? You have to remove all items inside then it dissapears

[fluid sapphire]

They can't interact because it's on a well

[light harness]

uhh idk then

[fluid sapphire]

Either move it or delete it with SCIM

[fringe shadow]

ye

[fringe shadow]

u cant remove it with that

wait maybe i can upload my map on satiscalculator and delete it from there

[fluid sapphire]

That's what I mean

[fringe shadow]

ah

[light harness]

anyone know where to find save files on Linux

[fringe shadow]

i thought scim is smthing else

[light harness]

oh wait i figured it out nevermind

[fringe shadow]

mb

[small crypt]

oof, i didnt realize that if you replace something you dont get the materials back

[next briar]

How do Tractor stations work like do they only need to refuel at 1 station or do they need to refuel on both (short route)

[fluid sapphire]

You do, though?

[fluid sapphire]

Just one

[next briar]

Ah thx

[light harness]

wdym

[fringe shadow]

u do

[small crypt]

upgraded a miner but didnt get my original portable miner back, started with 2 had 0 after

[fringe shadow]

idk about miner, but with belts u get it

[light harness]

oh idrk

[fringe shadow]

yo whos playing with Platform Expansion Program mod ?

[ornate saffron]

There is a specific Modding discord. You may have better luck there ^_^

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[hard ivy]

How many did you have in the inventory, and what miner were you upgrading from/to?

[fringe shadow]

ty

[small crypt]

mk1 - mk2, 2 in inventory

[next briar]

Wait why doesnt my tractor connect to my station im kinda stuck

[small crypt]

are you on 1.1 or 1.2? because afaik they got completely reworked

[next briar]

Console gaming so 1.1

[hard ivy]

Then you should have one left
Unless you had a full inv and it ended up in a dismantle crate somewhere

[next briar]

Ahhh nvm got it

[fringe shadow]

can someone tell me what this do? i readed all i dont really get it https://ficsit.app/mod/LoadBalancers

[small crypt]

would 3600 mj be enough to get me to fuel power

[fringe shadow]

i think yes

[worn oar]

Firstly never ask chatgpt anything more complicated than the weather, you are literally harming your ability to think for yourself. Secondly, you can do simple math in the machine itself. Click the blue number that says 45, type the desired amount divided by the number of machines. That's 120/3.

[fringe shadow]

i had 2.4k but i didnt do quartz, sulfur and caterium at the time

[worn oar]

Yes, but you'll probably want more at that point

[reef basin]

MJ or MW?

[small crypt]

mw sorry

[fringe shadow]

is there a good mod for load balancer? i want something where i can configure the splitter how much it should put in the left / right side or infront per minute

[reef basin]

probably yeah. Though load balancers are generally not needed

[fringe shadow]

i dont wanna do the math everytime.. and i dont wanna use manifolds anymore

[reef basin]

fair, it's your choice 🤷 just saying it's more work than needed

[wise junco]

def more work than needed

[supple canopy]

not using manifold late game is just unviable, unless you're producing minuscule amounts

[fringe shadow]

but why not? if i want to do nuclear power it will take days or even weeks to fill xd

[reef basin]

you don't really need all the power immediately anyway

[cunning siren]

If you enjoy exploring hunting for geothermals if / when you need them early on can be fun 🤷

[reef basin]

and you can do direct input

[fringe shadow]

okay

[supple canopy]

yea nuclear power plant is one case where you can justify load balancing but even then

my plan will be to stack up on uFR while I decorate my powerplant and then I'll have a drone just bring it all in bulk

[cunning siren]

I only use one if I fully sloop and OC turbo diamonds. Big fan of the manifold stuff, so easy

[supple canopy]

I'll have 60 power plant fed with uFR, I am NOT building 100 splitters

[small crypt]

im trying to shove 720 coal/min into 48 coal generators but i dont think i can, by the 6th one splitters would be going below 15/min so i cant even get the full 240/node in, cause it would halve too many times

or does that also work itself out eventually

[reef basin]

it does yeah

[cunning siren]

It can, if you "prime" the manifold with coal prior to turning them all on. The buffers will fill up and that should "fix" it. Either way it's not a big deal IMO

[wise junco]

don't even truly have to prime, just speeds up the process

[cunning siren]

Yea, it's not needed

[small crypt]

so i can set it up and just let it sputter for a while

[wise junco]

as long as your math is correct and youre not belt or pipe limited, yes

[dense violet]

you have 720 on one belt? it's at least a mk5? if so it'll eventually spin up yes. Unless you have a hidden bit of low mk belt somewher e

[small crypt]

gonna be 3 belts

[dense violet]

ok you're not connecting them up are you?

[small crypt]

16 per belt

no

[dense violet]

cool, then yeah as long as you

1. have enough parts per min for the group
2. have a fast enough belt for it

it'll spin up to 100% quick enough

[wise junco]

you know, Cobalt, every time you said that p1-p5 is a tutorial, i thought you were exaggerating.

the closer i get to the end i get it. the tools you have available later make so much of the earlier infrastructure moot

this is my 3rd save and I really think I'm gonna finish the tutorial this time

[dense violet]

yeah you learn to pull it all together by the end 🙂
if it makes you feel better I've never actually pushed the last phase button 😄

[fickle locust]

Haha this was me until a month ago

[dense violet]

I can just never be bothered, I just do my own thing afte rthe last milestone

[wise junco]

I've got 2/4 of the p4 elevator parts automated now, so I am starting to get big momentum... and also I know how crazy easy I could do better with access to mk6 belts

[next briar]

Rq ques why cant i use somersloops is it in the Mam

[small crypt]

looking ahead nothing really seems that complex as far as process lines go, but all the b*tch work routing items around and dealing with the minutiae is my least favorite thing of all time

[wise junco]

haha it gets a little wild later, depending on recipes used

[dense violet]

alt recipes change the whole process - you can plan very high tier factories using resources almost entirely local

or did you mean within the factory?

[fickle locust]

Yeah you have to research them first

[small crypt]

mostly like, within the factory, gotta route at different heights and send things here and there and get tangled up in belts, then find the one part of a blueprint that has to be broken and replaced for the belts to start moving because that happens every now and then, just wears on the patience

[dense violet]

ah, I don't rely much on blueprints for doing things like that
but you can get around a LOT of that by pre planning sections of factory to opperate right next to the next process
that often means you might centralise the ingots, then have a few buldings around ti processing hte next steps, ect. Helps to sketch the layouts out

[cunning siren]

Yes... the game has it's quirks, no doubt about that. Easy to forget that after thousands of hours of play though

[worn oar]

Get the smart mod, it does its very best to route the close belt and pipe connections

Have not found a better solution

[small crypt]

I'll consider it, ty for the recommendation

[small crypt]

#screenshots message

this is gonna get REALLY ugly by the time i place all 48 coal gens

[dense violet]

you really don't want to leave it to automation for connecting logistics if you care about it being neat and tidy

[cunning siren]

If I ever do coal power, I do it on the water with overclocks so I can do very simple stuff like this #screenshots message

[small crypt]

i wasnt aware there was even an alternative to coal power for midgame

[cunning siren]

Yea, there are some tricks to early geothermals so most folk do coal

[small crypt]

coals not so bad its just dealing with water and messed up ratios

plus i guess each one needs a pump cause 10 meters high is apparently a lot shorter than 10 meters long

[cunning siren]

There is some quirkiness with water extractors IMO. One of the reasons I build directly on the water so I don't have to mess with pipe 🍝 as much. I do like that they snap to each other once the first one is placed, makes it easy to place the rest

[zenith spire]

Build a water tower

[loud fulcrum]

1.2 when 😫 fuck a power pole

This update is so good, such a good game

[worn oar]

Do NOT

[ivory condor]

Daisy chaining is locked behind mk3 power poles

[next ivy]

after that its available for all machines ?

[void cliff]

It’s beautiful

[burnt prawn]

I'm impressed by all the alt recipes for oil stuff, specifically how they're individually pretty bad but waaaaay better when combined

[cunning siren]

OH thanks

[clear aspen]

Chat I have a quick servey react 👍 if u like screws and 👎 if I don’t like them

[cunning siren]

"The best part of the game is making screws" ~ Snutt Treptow, August 15th, 2023

[clever pier]

I agree

use alts and produce screws immediately before the machine they are needed for. don't try and make screws in one place and distribute them

solves the issue completely

[worn oar]

Any problem can be solved by throwing more screws at it TBH

[burnt prawn]

Do gases have sloshing pipe physics challenges like liquids do?

[worn oar]

Not enough water? Use screws. Spitters got you down? Pelt them with screws.

[clever pier]

screws exist specifically to teach you not to try and make all of one item in one place

[burnt prawn]

I'm powering the whole map off of nothing but screws now 👍

[worn oar]

Make sure to get plutonium screws 👍🏻

[cunning siren]

Screw that 😆

[clever pier]

you can mostly eliminate screws using alts if you really want to

[dense violet]

basically all recipes build off each other to some degree, just very obvious with the oil loop

[clever pier]

or just do as I suggest and make them only where needed

[dense violet]

yes

[clever pier]

and the aluminium loop

[dense violet]

well the alum stuff is also very self contained, and they're honestly a much of a muchness
Electrode gets you a BIT more but not enough if you want ot save your oil for other things or just want to throw all your coal at it since... coal is near useless as you get on
base solution is still great even if you go pure ingot because you can use the waste silica elsewhere
or just do a combo of pure ingot and base ingot

whereas the oil > hor > diluted fuel + recycle loop is just ... the most you can get out of oil

[worn oar]

Nuclear lets you free up a bunch of oil

[dense violet]

eh, kinda but oil is just so useful everywhere

so many alts use oil products as a filler for other resources

[worn oar]

Oh I barely play with alts, maybe it makes a huge difference

[remote cave]

alts are game changing tbh

[dense violet]

alts are pretty much the core part of the design of the game. So many different paths to things

[wise junco]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[worn oar]

I love the pure ingot alts, but unsure if it's worth the energy cost

[dense violet]

for me it's just the huge aspect of the refineries. Hate them.
alloy recipes forevers

[remote cave]

even the "pure" recipes that use water can multiply ur raw nodes value

[cunning siren]

Energy cost eventually becomes not a factor

[remote cave]

yeah pure for nearly everything too tho definitely worth

[dense violet]

Refinery Simulator 2026

[wise junco]

hate the refineries, but until I have mk6 belts, they really help maximize output

[remote cave]

refineries are satisfying imo

[dense violet]

what made you this way?

[wise junco]

who hurt you

[worn oar]

Gives you something to do while thinking about how to decorate your next screw factory ^^

[remote cave]

impure nodes

got to get something from them somehow

[wise junco]

do people actually make screw factories?

[remote cave]

na

sane people dont

[worn oar]

Each region has a screw factory, it's like a logistics hub

[cunning siren]

Sometimes 🤷 can be fun

[wise junco]

inline where i need 'em, 100% of the time

[primal crypt]

Screw facotries are a flex.

[dense violet]

my screw factories tend to be 1 constructor eating steel beams

[cunning siren]

I normally have 3x steel screw constructors feeding 3x copper rotors and that's about it 😆 enough to feed 10 BWD a min with the proper sloopage

[worn oar]

You have an excess of steel beams? Teach me your ways

[clever pier]

this is the way

[clever pier]

coal and iron ore aren't exactly hard to find

[dense violet]

just a bit of steel , or Aluminium Beams if you're feeling fancy

[worn oar]

But I always have something else I want to do with my coal, that's the problem

[primal crypt]

i saw this 100 HMF facotry he did each operations a seprete floor with was the most builtifial precise belt work devoting an enitre floor to belts of screws.

[clever pier]

you can also use the coke steel alt

[remote cave]

turbofuel issue?

[cunning siren]

You will too once you switch to Mk.4 belts 🤷

[dense violet]

like what?
by tier 7 it should be an almost useless resource

[clever pier]

dedicate one pure coal node to steel and you have way more than you need

[cunning siren]

Virtually nothing uses steel beams for some reason after Mk.3 belts 🤷

[clever pier]

but I usually use the coke steel alt instead

[worn oar]

Aluminum, compacted coal, diamonds, turbofuel, etc

[primal crypt]

Aluminum steel beams are a game changer. Basically taking a path for industrial beams that would take 48 steel to one that takes 12 aluminum. 24 steel and more machines are needed for the 4per min encased pipes. feeding aluminum into the starter factory i'm trying to triple my output form 11 to 30 HMF.

[dense violet]

I tend to use oil for the Alum
compacted coal has no place in my world
diamonds... don't need many and pink diamonds is great and doesn't use a ton.
turbo fuel for some bullets or precursor to rocket fuel for my jet pack so I only need a few drops of coal

[junior laurel]

`

[hushed frigate]

a lizard doggo threw itself off a cliff while i was trying to tame it

it did NOT survive

[unkempt blade]

yeah aluminum steel beam screws are amazing

[worn oar]

It knows what you are

[knotty bear]

Just rechecked my math 12 times just to figure out the reason we weren't making nearly enough power was out of 10 fuel refineries only 2 had a connected output

[lusty cedar]

Heyy so uh,

1. can someone tell me when I should use load balancers, and what conveyor busses are?
2. should I be producing a ton of excess resources, or making as I need it and no more?
3. should things go into storage first, then be used, or go from output straight into the next machine?

wanted some more opinions and other people's experience

[dense violet]

1. you never do and buses are just lets of belts that feed many systems. This game doesn't work well with busses

2. do as you like - the tiers ane milestones are basically a tutorial.

3. probalby over flow to storage?

really depends how you like doing things

[lusty cedar]

I'm already working on phase 4 😭

[dense violet]

still part of hte tutorial

[lusty cedar]

Oh hi Khomyak

What do you mean phase 4 is still part of the tutorial

[jolly solstice]

hi cross 👋
i can't really answer the first one but i would like to throw my two cents for the other two

2. it's one of the ways to go but i prefer not doing excess (although i do stick to modular factories spread all over the world instead of one megafactory so that's that)
3. for modular factories it's preferred you use them up for whatever you need finished asap and then store them, for megafactories i've got no experience

[dense violet]

the phases are themselves, not a challenge
you can make hte dirtiest sloppiest factories and still get there at the end

phase 5 is basically the ender dragon in minecraft, you never actually ahve to finish it and after tier 9 you have access to everything for a creative world of your own projects

so either

a) you're going to do your own projects and create your own weird systems with end points in mind after phase 5 so everything you do now won't matter as they won't really work with your new projects
or
b) you consider phase 5 the 'end' of the game and stop playing, where everything you build now still won't matter how you set it up

[lusty cedar]

Welp, time to follow my obsession of powerplants

[dense violet]

sure 🙂
I highly recommend nuclear. Much more interesting than fuel

[lusty cedar]

5 billion turbo fuel generators

[weary condor]

#faq

[dense violet]

eh, if you want

its ... not really a project with variation. It's mostly just spamming generators

[clever pier]

fuel gens powered by rocket fuel is the way

nuclear is entirely optional

since theres no nuclear parts required for phase 5 elevator parts

[knotty bear]

Is it fine to have manifold like setups for fuel plants

[lusty cedar]

I have no rocket fuel yet :(

[weary condor]

how else would you do it..?

[dense violet]

rocket fuel is just turbo fuel. You convert other resources to more oil and ... spam endless generators

[jolly solstice]

it works so yeah, it's fine

[abstract heron]

a trillion turbo fuel generators 😂

[worn oar]

Fuel gens are also optional, just do a biomass burner plant using packaged liquid fuel. Perfectly elastic supply to meet your demand.

[earnest chasm]

Is it worth Upgrading The Dimetianal Depot to more than 60/min? Conciderring that mercer spherse are limited resource?
I was thingking Upgrading Stack size only and that was i can have more dimentioal depot

[worn oar]

If you collect every mercer sphere and use every upgrade you'll have over 200 left. Yes it's worth it.

[clever pier]

now make nuclear pasta with only biofuel burners

[worn oar]

1/min nuclear pasta is about 3 GW, that's totally doable. I had a 7.5 GW liquid biofuel backup power plant and it didn't take very long to make.

[dense violet]

just convert all the bio fuel to bio coal and convert them to uranium rods

[worn oar]

Especially if you're willing to spend some sloops on that, it becomes kind of insane the returns you get. Totally optional though.

[dense violet]

green energy

[clever pier]

you could easily do it with biofuel + geysers + alien power augmentors

no coal, fuel gens or nuclear

[worn oar]

I think so definitely

I don't want to attempt a challenge like that until I finish the main game though

[clever pier]

if you tap all the geysers its about 5GW I think?

[abstract heron]

i have umm power in my world 11,151,760MW

[primal flax]

hi, wondering what will happen if i make a world on experimental will i be able to continue playing it after 1.2 is released or will it break?

[chrome bear]

how many upgrades are there for the drill?

[worn oar]

The what

[meager fern]

do you mean the miner?

it goes up to mk3

[cursive crane]

Youll be able to continue playing it but its always advised to backup saves

[spice patio]

Saves work in newer game versions, no matter the label of that version.
So yes.

[fiery root]

Mornin fellas

[meager fern]

good night

[chrome bear]

does it double everytime?

[meager fern]

Yes

[loud fulcrum]

Reasonable, I mean there wouldn’t be a reason to unlock them

[ivory condor]

Clearly not. I mean once you get mk3 power poles, just use those

[clever pier]

yeah I think daisy chaining should be much earlier

like after mk2 power poles

or just give us tesla towers that power all machines in a radius with no cables

[ivory condor]

Objectively anything is better than locking daisy chaining behind mk3 power poles

[clever pier]

generally mk2 power poles are "good enough" , I barely ever use mk3

[worn oar]

It basically makes power poles obsolete. Daisy chaining is definitely stronger than mk3 power poles.

[oblique aspen]

i still use power poles, what it removes is the mk1 poles you stuck to every single machine, not the poles that run power through your factory, well for me anyway, i dont like the idea of having one cable daisy'ed through the entire factory, while possible, just weird 😛

so i just end up daisy chaining blocks of machines that are of the same kind working on the same thing

[merry rapids]

why is there 2 types of power poles? (i might be wrong)

[oblique aspen]

there is .. 4, i guess

[merry rapids]

oh

[oblique aspen]

mk1-3, and power towers

1-3 just have more connections, 4, 7 and 10

[merry rapids]

i just started and i can make 1 pole and add 1 other on the same pole?

[oblique aspen]

the first power pole can take 4 cables

[worn oar]

Yes and you should

[feral vector]

I love when I put down a mam to scan drives while I'm exploring, forget to dismantle it, then run back to it cause it looks like a drop pod in the distance XD

[clever pier]

you can immediately dismantle the mam after starting it scanning the HD

then go to any MAM to get the result

[young sentinel]

i fixed the issue. up to 6000 MW now. stable.

[feral vector]

does the codex just not tell you what buildings require a material?

like I don't think circuit boards are used to build anything important? not sure how I can check besides going on the wiki though

trying to set up depots with limited mercer spheres still

[clever pier]

circuit boards are used for computers which are important

they are part of the recipe for several late game elevator parts

[feral vector]

yeah but I don't need them to make buildings or belts or anything like that?

[clever pier]

trains use them

computers I mean

also programmable splitters

and radar towers

[supple canopy]

No you don't need circuit boards anymore. Used to be used for trucks and train signals. And no unfortunetly there's no way to know what an item is used for building in general

[feral vector]

alright thank you

I can just check the wiki but I'm trying not to go overboard with spoilers

[clever pier]

what? computers are still used for freight platforms

[supple canopy]

(except of course the wiki or scouring the build menu)

[supple canopy]

we're talking about circuit boards

[clever pier]

circuit boards are needed to make computers

[feral vector]

it's so weird that the wiki shows what things are used for, but only recipes lol

[feral vector]

I mean like, non production uses

[supple canopy]

yes but you don't need to have a dimensional depot for CB

[clever pier]

I disagree , I think its useful to have a stash of them

[feral vector]

I don't need them in the depot if they aren't used for building anything directly. like uhhh stators in 1.1

[supple canopy]

no there's a "build gun" category, so you can check

[supple canopy]

what for?

[feral vector]

I meant codex lol

[clever pier]

if you need to handcraft computers when out in the field

[feral vector]

just put computers in the depot?

[normal orbit]

you can manually upload some, absolute no need for a depot

[supple canopy]

I mean I have a DD for circuit board simply because I didn't realize they weren't in use anymore

but honestly @feral vector it depends on your playstyle but I think mercer spheres are abundant enough not to think about minmaxing their use for DD

[feral vector]

yeah I just don't have enough to put one on every storage container yet

and if I can remove a few I can get another upload speed upgrade sooner or something

[supple canopy]

ah yes I understand

[fiery root]

Would u guys put your Power supply right next to the Main facility? Or is a greater distance better?

[normal orbit]

i'd just go find some more

[feral vector]

I can only do one thing at a time 😭

I just brought back 11 I'm working on it lol

[normal orbit]

its easier to transport power than the items to make the power

[feral vector]

I got overwhelmed by phase 4 spelevator parts so I'm just exploring

[supple canopy]

power supply as in power producing factory? Either way is fine but as sapphic just said, dragging pole is easier. But if you deem next to your factory would make for a cool place to build a rocket fuel setup... go for it

[fiery root]

Thanks fellas!

[dense violet]

make your powerstation wherever the resources are.

lots of coal next to water around

[oblique aspen]

power in particular doesnt have any business to be in a central location - you need a power line to the resource anyway for the miner, so might as well skip transporting the resources

[hushed frigate]

is there anywhere on the map where sulfur and bauxite are relatively close together?

[normal orbit]

west area of red forest

[meager jacinth]

is bolted frame or alternate alloy ingot better

[supple canopy]

apples and orange. If it's the two that pop up chose the one you think you'll be using sooner (bolted frame really helps power wise for early game imo)

[meager jacinth]

well im alr phase 2 so im using both alr

if a choose an alternate recipe am i still able to use the original?

[supple canopy]

yes, alt recipes are just an option with different pros and cons just like original recipes

and if you pick an alt recipe over another, the other is not lost, you get to pick it later as you get more hard drives

[dense violet]

eh, ish. It's one of the reasons instant scrap is pretty niche

[meager jacinth]

is it possible to get all the alt recipes then?

[dense violet]

there's basically never any content you're locked out of in the game

also, every alt recipe is good at the thing it does

[supple canopy]

you spelled "the best option for aluminum" wrong

[dense violet]

it's the same output as Sloppy Electrode uses coal and suflur that is more awkward and has about the same amount of piping and machines

so really just uses more awkward resources

[supple canopy]

yea but it uses BLENDERS that blends YELLOW GOO

[dense violet]

... eh.

[clever pier]

yes but some are extremely niche while others are useful all the time. eg cast screws and the wet recipes and always useful

[south sinew]

I wouldn't say cast screw is always useful

diluted fuel would be the go-to example of "always useful"

[obsidian zodiac]

hey leo no video this week, were in the process of planning a checkin video

[lost rapids]

Good morning

[obsidian zodiac]

good morning!

[karmic crow]

Why can’t I turn lizard doggos into animal protein ?

[fiery pewter]

Lock 'em up

[crude canyon]

i mean, if you get one, do you need the other?

[fiery pewter]

Just confessed to murder

[karmic crow]

None of them drop remains

[fiery pewter]

Duh

Are they enemy?

No, they be fren

Not everything is to be murdered

Lizard doggo's exist as an easy way to dispose of nuclear waste

[karmic crow]

CH 47s have a nice fully articulated rotor system

[fiery pewter]

Interesting subject switch

[karmic crow]

You get so much more lift with a tandem design

Yes I changed my ways

No more lizard doggo murder I’m sorry

[south sinew]

If you have diluted packaged fuel it can be worth taking diluted fuel as well.. but in practice, yeah, you really want to have one of the two, not necessarily both

[fiery pewter]

Diluted packaged fuel does add the packaging step though, which can result in an annoying packaging loop

Diluted packaged fuel is thus more bulky

[crude canyon]

i wouldn't call the packaging loop annoying. But I think after you get the blender, you just don't need it

[karmic crow]

I just manually added empty containers and haven’t had a problem

It just cycles itself back

[crude canyon]

but if you make more power, which do you use

[clever pier]

for me its always useful, I like eliminating one step in the making of screws

[karmic crow]

Idk I use turbo fuel mainly rn

It’s the easiest to do

Those fuel generators take up so much space though

It’s also annoying trying to find coal and sulfur close together

[obsidian zodiac]

cursed question

[stray onyx]

heard that 1.2 update is quite stable right? so we can expect it soon

cant wait for daisy jump

[remote stream]

i have an idea

[viscid tangle]

hello. what is a good amount of basic materials for a first factory floor? ive built the foundation but im unsure of how much basic stuff to produce

[remote stream]

robot that can collect food

[south sinew]

hence why most people skip turbofuel; diluted fuel is just easier and makes more than enough juice

[south sinew]

the merits of screws aside, the reality is that many people go screwless so cast screw is not that useful in that situation

[clever pier]

it takes a while to find all the alts to go screwless, so during that time before you have them all cast screws is useful\

[south sinew]

I don't disagree, but then, that limits cast screw's usefulness and removes it from the always-useful category

[clever pier]

useful in every playthrogh but not useful all the way through every playthrough

[inland kelp]

can someone tell me why my game is only working sometimes on dx12 and other times it crashs on startup

the only way i got dx12 to work was lunching on valkan and it just goes to dx12

[green fiber]

Have you verified game files?
Have you removed old drivers / updated your graphics drivers ?

Other option left is that a shader cache file is left in the game folder which may also need to be removed so it rebuilds it

[inland kelp]

done all but last one

will it get rid of my saved game

[wispy sun]

if i wanted to make a 20 modular frame per minute factory then will i need another miner? or will i be fine with just 1 overclocked iron miner

[supple canopy]

uuh depends on the miner type, how much you've overclocked it and if you're already using it? just see how much iron ore you'll need

[fiery pewter]

Overclock em

[wispy sun]

idk im using a normal node and im overclocking at 150% and im using a mark one miner

[karmic crow]

I realer only overclock miners and to make certain ratios easier and more even

[tall lantern]

instead of trying to guess, just look at how much iron ore you need

compare with how much your miner could supply and belts can handle (no point clocking up to extract say 450/min if your belt can only do 270)

[wispy sun]

it says i need 480 per min

[dense violet]

Cast screws are pretty niche
And wets are awful for the sheer number of refs

Theres generalist recipes and specialist recipes

Mostly they just come down to how early on the chain they are

[fiery pewter]

Unpopular opinion (I think):
Leached Iron Ingot and Leached Caterium Ingot are more water and ore efficient than the Pure recipes for both of those recipes

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> appreciate the #dev-streams post, but can we get a text summary of state of dev somewhere, especially re: the patch that didn't happen?

[south sinew]

I also hate streams

[leaden turret]

if you have issues with streams, contact your urologist

[spark stream]

Hello jason

[obsidian zodiac]

we can look into a write up about state of devs, i know temporal does full stream recaps but they take quite a bit of time

as for the patch, its likely next week on the 14th. ran into some issues

[leaden turret]

where do you think temporal gets the full stream recaps from 😛

(cough clips archive site cough)

[leaden turret]

ah cool, just wanted to double-check that it wasn't some weird setup for that april fool's joke that went around about a physics patch 😛

[leaden turret]

also was it a bad easter egg or did Mikael get tempted by påskmust ?

[clever pier]

see I never bother to perfectly balance water, I just use the excess for wet and sink them

[obsidian zodiac]

im actually not sure, i havent heard from him

[leaden turret]

is the fluid truck still parked out back?

[empty bridge]

hi all.

I've reached the objective: Complete Phase 2 which means I need to start seriously planning production of the 3 various items I need to complete it. Should I start afresh or stay where I am (grass fields) and start planning here?

and how should I plan, what order of things, etc. Are foundations a good idea or waste of resources at this stage of the game?

[reef basin]

if you want them

[tall lantern]

no need to restart, why get rid of working factories?

if you have the resources nearby to make the things then make 'em here, if not then look further afield, the game's definitely leaning you towards expansion as you get further in

[supple canopy]

that's a fact lol, also true for copper. Leached is just superior all around, although using it for iron is a waste considering how rare sulfur is and abundant iron is

[fiery pewter]

No. Pure Copper is more water and ore resistant than Leached Copper

[clever pier]

have a look at what is needed to unlock the tier 3 and 4 technologies. do you have the resources to unlock them near you? otherwise you will have to move and find new nodes.

i would suggest yes to use foundations and never to distmantle a factory... just leave it sinking stuff and build a new one elsewhere

[supple canopy]

yes true

[fiery pewter]

And leached is also slept on due to needing more refineries

To make the sulfuric acid

[sterile blade]

Anyone who finds having to deal with Water for Pure ore recipes annoying isn't going to touch leached recipes even with a pole

[supple canopy]

yes and also the internet is riddled with guides telling people to absolutely avoid alt recipes using rarer ressources as if you were gonna need 90% of sulfur/bauxite/oil after you finish the game

[fiery pewter]

I like acids :3
I will use the acids

[fiery pewter]

True. Most of those guides are also made to follow the meta

[reef basin]

which isn't true at all

[dense violet]

All it is is clocking. Which you have to do to set up the whole thing anyway

[clever pier]

nah, if you just provide excess water in and then sink excess water using a wet recipe you never need to worry about clocking

i just provide enough to run the refineries all the time and sink the output

[reef basin]

"worry about clocking" is always needed, as to some extent that's how many machines you're building

[clever pier]

as in I don't need to underclock anything

i just max the water input and sink the excess output

[reef basin]

extra work for no reason 🤷

[clever pier]

nah not really any extra

plus shiny shiny coupons

[reef basin]

yes, getting limestone, extra water, extra refineries

all that is extra work

[clever pier]

in terms of time to build it out, I can build this faster than if I attempted to balance it perfectly

so more machines but less actual build time

[reef basin]

you don't need to "balance" anything tho

[fallen orbit]

Just finsihed building a 8/min smart plate factory although it seems a bit overkill are they needed in the future recipes? Am at p2

[clever pier]

if you want the water to recycle perfectly

you need to do a bit of balancing

[clever pier]

yes you need them later

[reef basin]

no, not at all

[tall roost]

Can you put a 600/min belt in a platform that gets loaded in the swamp and unloaded in the gass plains areas? Or should i decrease the rate of items im putting in each platofrm

[clever pier]

ok I'll admit the truth... everytime I tried to recycle the water with aluminium I would come back to find the factory had stopped after 40 minutes or so. so now I don't bother trying to recycle water

[fallen orbit]

If that's true that's unfortunate I'll just sink them then in future

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1460381544173801616/image.png?ex=69d61c8c&is=69d4cb0c&hm=b3968fe3526afd964b2d8acab041b7127c8a8714eeaf9e12c75692ccdacc3b90&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=685&height=968 super simple, no balancing

you just don't merge fresh and recycled water

[reef basin]

well, as I said above, it's your choice, but it's more work to sink

[fallen orbit]

I'll try to scale down my factories in future this 8 smart plating per min factory alone took me 6 hours

[clever pier]

hmm, ok yes I was trying to merge all the water back together

[green fiber]

I think stuff got mixed up here: you WILL need smart plating in the future

Each previous project part is used in the creation of a new part in the next phase

But thats about it

[weak field]

i wouldn't scale down

scale up, and also you'll learn to scale faster

[turbid ether]

can someone help me with this copper factory... im new

[fallen orbit]

That's good to know thansk

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 post and describe the issue (possibly with images)

[turbid ether]

i wanna hop in a vc with someone

[reef basin]

yeah that's pretty bad way to get help, as other people cannot join, and it won't help other people either

not to mention that if the person who you VC with cannot help you, you have to explain everything again to next person

[turbid ether]

ok ill try to expain best as i can i guess lol

[fallen orbit]

So after playing 30 hours in a new save I have kinda made the realisation of just continuing in my old 120 hour save tbh

It's was messy and little spaghetti but I had made alot of progress in it doing the old stuff I have done already just cleaner and better now feels tedious rather than fun as I once thought when I left my old save

I am so so so glad to the person who said to me to not delete your old save

It might just be more fun to clean the old save rather than start from 0
What do you guys think?

[tall lantern]

generally better not to throw away progress for no reason, yes

you'll always learn better/cleaner/more "efficient" ways of doing things as you go, just take the lessons for your next factory

[reef basin]

why even clean? just build new and keep old

[dense violet]

very few systems you ev er make past like tier 2 will ahve all machines running at 100%

that means you have to clock things and do math

[fallen orbit]

Or destroy old to build new? Maybe to use the nodes

[tall lantern]

plenty more nodes on the map

[clever pier]

no, if you over supply inputs you never need to do math, everything runs at 100 percent

[tall lantern]

in the end it's completely up to you how you want to play, these are just recommendations

[reef basin]

there's enough nodes for everything, and by destroying build you're going backwards (using time to have less factory), so wouldn't recommend that

[fallen orbit]

I was at p3 completed when I left that save
The reason why I left that save was i got up myself into too big project's

[dense violet]

literally jsut hitting a few buttons in a calculator

[fallen orbit]

And part reason I did a new save was i returned to satisfactory after an year

[clever pier]

start with the end result and work backwards making sure each input gets what it needs

[fallen orbit]

That's really good to hear tbh thanks

I should spend some time getting everything seen in my save again it's been an year since I left this save at 121 hours

Just reading my old save powergrid seems confusing I had 20k mw production and only 9k max consumption why was I building a gigantic turbofuel plant

[tall lantern]

headroom for all the factories you were gonna build, probably

[fallen orbit]

My this save was all over the place but the only reason I feel like getting back into it is because the amount of progress I had lol
Now continuing in the new save seems pointless

[fiery root]

Its time to let the factory grow

[plain marten]

i love sushi belts they are perfect

i dont get why anyone would not use them

[fallen orbit]

Damn 64 turbo fuel generators what the hell was i doing

[real shale]

Only 64

[fallen orbit]

The scale is crazy i never had this big of a fuel plant before and it was 85% done coming back to it is confusing

Although looks like everything was connected and built except compacted coal was the main requirment

[fallen orbit]

Well looks like they are all also over locked aswell

So almost a 120 gw plant
Dang

Is it even worth using poweshards to produce 960 compacted coal per minute?

I mean 39 assemblers is a big amount but nothing too crazy

[sterile blade]

If you can spare the shards, I think it's always worth OCing ^^

[dense violet]

power shards only increase clocking. Meaning you need fewer machines to make it

but compacted coal itself is ... very niche

not much use for it

[fallen orbit]

Yeah
Am just returning to my old save and turns out the 120gw turbofuel plant was all built including the fuel except compacted coal

[stray onyx]

yeah i have some left overs when i am producing rocket fuel and idk what to do with it

[fallen orbit]

Any estimates or a way to calculate how to transport 960/m with trains?

[dense violet]

mostly time it

[fallen orbit]

I don't even have any clue why I was even building this large of a plant either but as everything is basically done I might aswell finish it

[dense violet]

see if your car will get full before it returns. If it does, you need more cars

[fallen orbit]

Trial and error then?

[sterile blade]

You can safely move 1 FULL belt per freight station, things just get a bit more complicated when trying to move more than than (like over 1.5 belts' worth of items per freight)

[fallen orbit]

Doesn't matter the tier of the belt?

[sterile blade]

This always works

[dense violet]

no, time it

[sterile blade]

Aye, I made that comment generic on purpose as I don't know what tier of belts you have ^^

[fallen orbit]

Being dropped into endgame suddenly is kinda overwhelming but fun lol
Much better than tediously grinding from early game

[dense violet]

in general you can get away with moving 1 belt per platform unless you have mk6 belts or it's a really long trip

[fallen orbit]

I am at 600/m

[dense violet]

tier 9 is still the tutorial

[fallen orbit]

💀

[sterile blade]

There is no belt MK that carries that much ^^
They carry either more or less: ||480 or 780 per minute||

[fallen orbit]

Oh mb it's the alluminium belts

[sterile blade]

780

[fallen orbit]

Do you guys lay down foundations before you build rails?

[sterile blade]

A single freight for <1000/min with MK5 belts should be easy enough; if one train isn't enough, you should be able to just add more without any worries (the only issue comes when the trains are "too many" so the stations spend so much time locked in docking that you start losing on throughput...)

[ornate saffron]

Latley my rail has been a single Bp of a straight rail and Foundation. when i get to curves and bends i make them on the fly.

[dense violet]

it's a really good way to keep them tidy.

you can zoop a single line the whole way and use blueprints to print towers on top for the rail

[fallen orbit]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that this time around my old train rails are so ugly I want to redo them

[fallen orbit]

Power towers?

[dense violet]

no jsut regular towers,

they can be really simple, jsut a few foundations if you want

[fallen orbit]

Should I just make a blue print of two rails lines and build them above land it'll be so much easier lol

[dense violet]

like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1448157102966182049/1448167940225499156/image.png?ex=69d5d7fe&is=69d4867e&hm=d1158cd748e753dc9584c86111fca014b75dcdb871dd43d5e5e3e76bc161fe64&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1044&height=1006

[fallen orbit]

Or first bomb the entire forest

[dense violet]

why would you bomb the entire forest? just work around the terrain, clear a few trees if you have to. it's easy

[dense violet]

I don't think I destroyed a single tree for the red forest rail #design-and-architecture message

you might need to if you do side by side rail, but not a ton

[fallen orbit]

I am sorry dumb question but are these towers there so it's easier to slope downwards later on?

And is there a reason you have a foundation in between them below the 2 rails

[dense violet]

I'll ping you in #design-and-architecture

[fallen orbit]

Alright thanks

[dense violet]

did the same thing for the stacked rail too https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1341791357131296838/unknown_18.png?ex=69d5c954&is=69d477d4&hm=dc6280833b57067f1ded8c974238f9cac4176b8a242baaa62d8621d448964184&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=283

[fallen orbit]

Is there a sweet location in the map where I can get 960/min coal and 960/min sulphur from the same place

I mean atleast not that far

If not it'll just be more logistics

[dense violet]

you can use SCIM

but honeslty if you're doing turbo fuel blended turbo is simple, just needs sulfur

[fiery root]

Fellas

My object Scanner does it job and scans for Power slugs

However, this one is under very big rocks thst seem unbreakable

How do i scan for another slug?

[dense violet]

move away

also bomb the rocks

[clever pier]

there might be a cave entrance somewhere else not obvious

[fallen orbit]

I just have everything built except getting the compacted coal now tbh
I can't switch now
It's a 64 gens overclocked plant I'll just figure it out
Changing stuff would be too much of a hassle and i already have the exact fuel needed for it

[magic aspen]

how much foreign energy amplifier uses singularitu cells? (sorry for bad english)

[dense violet]

!wikisearch power_augmenter

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power_augmenter

[supple depot]

Is there a way to add stamps or map markers to my save file using an external save editor?

[dense violet]

ask in the SCIM discord

[lean fossil]

how do YOU yes YOU conveyor up your manufacturers

[rough shore]

me?

[fiery root]

Whats smelted wire? For what should i need that?

[dense violet]

there's no such thing as smelted wire
there's
wire
quickwire

[rough shore]

smelted wire?

maybe a secret alternate recipe that nobody knows about

[wispy sun]

if i have 2 builds of 9 constructors and one makes screws and the other one makes iron plates, and then i need 6 assemblers to make reinforced iron plates, now how many belts do i need from each of these 9 constructors running into the assemblers?

this game makes me procrastinate so much

[rough shore]

depends on tier recipe clocking bla bla bla

[lucid bloom]

And what tier belt you are using

[rough shore]

question isnt how many constructors/machine its how much are u transporting of an item?

[dense violet]

what's the total number of reinforced plates you're trying to make?

[rough shore]

is it 2 billion a minute or is it lower

[wispy sun]

on the screws im using mk1 and on the plates im using mk3 to construct them, idk what tier of belts im gonna use for the assembler yet

[rough shore]

wat

[lucid bloom]

Look at expected input for the machine, how many items the belt can carry, and what the output is for the recipe you are using

[wispy sun]

my goal is 20 modular frames per minute and if i want it to be 20 then it should be making 30 per min

[dense violet]

going to ping you in math and metta

[fiery root]

How do i free this flower from its misery?

It ate 10 bolts without blinking

[dense violet]

invincible

[fiery root]

What are you trying to say sir?

[dense violet]

it's invincible

[fiery root]

That thing is quite trespassing
I need that area for production

[dense violet]

plan it elsewhere.

[rough shore]

what flower

[dense violet]

probably a bulb plant

[fiery root]

That who tried to poison me

It got an eye

[dense violet]

oh, a fly bulb

those should be able to be killed with a few hits, you might be missing

[fiery root]

Could be. But that thing doesnt have an eye anymore. Just standing up when i dare to come nearby and starts poison

[dense violet]

ah poison bulb plant. you need explosives

[fiery root]

Aight bet.
That thing wont comprehend what imma do with it

[rough shore]

woah

calm down its just a plant bro

let it be part of the decor

[whole robin]

Does your decor usually spout toxic gas that kills you within 10 seconds

[whole robin]

Generally anything that makes poison gas can be dealt with using bombs

[fiery root]

Can i shoot down that big things that fky over me?

[whole robin]

The flying mantas? No, they're invincible

[hushed frigate]

How do i get rid of excess alumina solution? Cant really package and sink since the nearest crude oil node is like 5km away

[white dawn]

Alumina Solution is pretty much intended to just be processed right there in a "complete" aluminum loop

[whole robin]

Turn it into aluminum scrap

[white dawn]

You shouldn't have any "extra" -- send it all into the next step of aluminum processing

If your Alumina Solution is travelling more than a few tens of meters to the next step, you're doing something a bit weird. :)

[light juniper]

I am producing 318.667 aluminium ingots - how should i split them between casing and sheets?

[white dawn]

My advice: don't! Just sink the ingots. As you need casings/sheets/whatever, set up that specific export (and the amount of ingots you're sinking shrinks over time)

[fiery root]

Aight good for them
Just want to make sure nothing is disrupting my efficiency

[white dawn]

That way you're not guessing.

[whole robin]

I suggest hopping onto then instead of trying to kill them, especially since they clip through buildings

[rough shore]

the gas is part of the decor just wear a gas mask

[fiery root]

I can use them as a personal vehicle?

[hushed frigate]

How can i make an overflow gate for pipes?

[rough shore]

why

[spice patio]

Hump in pipes, for non-gasses.
As lower parts will fill first, and anything past the hump will only get fluid once the things before the hump have had their fill.

[hushed frigate]

Thank youu

[rough shore]

what if they are anti gravity pipes

[oblique aspen]

then you make the hump downwards, duh

but luckily no such thing as anti-gravity pipes

[rough shore]

why luckily?

[clever pier]

pipes filled with nitrogen are anti gravity pipes effectively

infinite headlift

[whole robin]

No, they follow a set path, with no way of diverting them from it

[fiery root]

But i can ride on them on my next micro break!

[clever pier]

but that set path they follow usually goes past a few interesting special places

so they are a way to be lead to interesting places

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

THis good gng?

[austere marlin]

hey guys, is there a debug tool in the game ? I have frame drops but no idea where this is from

[rich parrot]

You could just pool all the oil to a single station.

[lean fossil]

huh...genius..

[fallen orbit]

I really need some advice am very much confused and I have 140 hours of playtime

[rough shore]

its perfect

[fallen orbit]

The thing is last year in January i bought the game played for 120 hours
I was at p4 (in progress , completed p3)
And I had alot of slugs , mercer speheres and stuff collected
But due to time constraints i quit the game later on now april I had restarted playing on a new save on March 27th
I have now 30 hours into it p2
I did play my old save again today and I felt like everything I am doing in my new save is tedious and pointless
But it's just my last year save is so cluttered even if i start a new project I feel like I don't understand my current world if you get what I mean

[ornate saffron]

false starts happen

[rich parrot]

It is good practice to stand up from your chair every 20 minutes, drink some water, and ask yourself: does this thing I'm doing still make sense?

[fiery root]

When du i get better Power?
This biomass isnt the go i want something more reliable.
Something better for the planet

[normal orbit]

in tier 3 as soon as you unlock phase 2

[rough shore]

the thing ur doing prob doesnt make sense before u start making it

[fiery root]

Amazing
Industrial age here i come

[fallen orbit]

It was clearly making very much sense in the new save I started and have 30 hours into everything I do and build I know and I know about the world I have just forgotten what I had built in my last year save and where or whereelse paths cross

[ornate saffron]

You get nothing better for the planet. You are there to abuse the planet and grid it up for Ficsit.

You get || coal || in phase 2 and || fuel || in phase 3

[rough shore]

nuclear power pal

[fiery root]

I am the last hope for earth.
All i do is for the greater good

[rough shore]

yeah but ur not on earth so just do whatever fr

[visual idol]

The waste is bad tho

[rough shore]

dump it in space fr

[thorny lily]

I know it’s been forever since I said hi but I hope folks are still loving the game ❤️

[fiery root]

Fridays for future are just on earth after all

[whole robin]

Not if you turn it into plutonium then ficsonium

[ornate saffron]

Im just makking Pluto rods and sinking them or using them in drones

[thorny lily]

If any of the old Discord users are still here I’d love to say hi to them too 😁

[rough shore]

also yeah waste is recycable fr

[visual idol]

I’ve never made it that far so I didn’t know lol

[rough shore]

i butchered the spelling

[whole robin]

Or just put all the plutonium waste into a container in a secluded location with nothing important near it (like real life)

[fallen orbit]

Is it a false start though? I clearly don't remember much about my old save and idk how to explain when you spend enough time in a world you know your things
But it's like when I play my last year save it's like i have been dropped into end to mid game without any efforts

I am just fiddling around between deciding if it's a false start or actually a good beginning

[ornate saffron]

I dont take breaks. I play a save until i giveup or see it to completiom. If i take a extended break there is no hope of me coming back to it. Im always lost

[fallen orbit]

That's my same feeling tbh now that I have left that save for so long it doesn't feel real to play in it

[tall lantern]

if you follow Independency (ie don't siphon from other factories) you don't need to know what your existing stuff does

[fallen orbit]

Now as I play in new I am just starting satisfactory from 0 but just with some extra knowledge to my hand

[thorny lily]

I still have saves six or seven years old.

[ornate saffron]

I have my U7 and U8 saves. I just dont load them

[thorny lily]

These must be update 2 or 3 saves lol

[ornate saffron]

I gathered

[fallen orbit]

It's not just about independency it's idk hard to explain for me but the time spent on the factories in that world , dropping into an old save with almost everything feels dissapointing to continue

I think I should just stop worrying about it and continue in my new save

I had just build a 8/min smart plate factory in that

[thorny lily]

I’m getting back into the game thanks to friends and the interactive map.

Bless Anthor.

[fallen orbit]

Did you continue your old save or?

[thorny lily]

Oh likely yeah.

A new one too though.

[fallen orbit]

Oh that's interesting to know

[thorny lily]

Some are pre pipes others are pre lift conveyors for belts

[fallen orbit]

Pre lift conveyors wtf

Imagine the spaghetti

[thorny lily]

You had to curve them tightly upward in a figure eight forever.

[fallen orbit]

Alright I'll stop stressing over it and make a versatile frameworks factory today including expanding my coal plant
Manually craft automated wiring👍

[thorny lily]

Sort of

[fallen orbit]

Once I am at p3 with jetpack I'll collect the mercer spheres and depos then the real stuff begins

[thorny lily]

Curve them upward tightly in a loop more or less.

[ornate saffron]

I have a play time 1115 hours of Satisfactory. this is Across 7 game clears (many of these were early access)
My Current Save has 250 hours. Its the longest ive every put into one save. Honestly more then 2 or 3 saves combined. I'm trying to label everything, Optimize and Decorate as i go. So when i do take a break i hopefully can come back.

The reality is though after a long break i always feel like im on a foreign world not of my making. Its hard for me to be invested again.

[thorny lily]

The interactive map helped open saves and get my bearings before stepping back into an old save.

[fallen orbit]

I am so glad you typed this out
That's the exact feeling am facing
I also feel like it's foreign in my old save

I just can't get invested in it anymore

[rough shore]

build a really big fat orange box that does everything

[fallen orbit]

Will ada approve

[small crypt]

Im away from pc atm, anyone know off hand how many coal generators wide a water extractor is? Trying to cook in my head

[tall lantern]

2

clock down to 75% and it tiles nicely

[rough shore]

if it works

[small crypt]

Oh thats perfect

Yeah thats exactly what I was thinking ty

[ornate saffron]

honestly Parachute and zip line will get you far for exploring. you can use two power poles connected with wire to scale cliffs

[lean fossil]

any tips?

[fiery root]

Do the hostile Tank dogs respawn? Or can i just make them extinct with enough determination?

[lean fossil]

I kind of want to use MULTIPLE trains

[rough shore]

uh signals

and stuff yk

[fallen orbit]

Gathering 100 mercer spheres without jetpack just seems like a hassle to me tbh but it's very possible but you also need sam activatrs

[dense violet]

you're going to have a hard time with multiple trains and a bunch of 2 way rails

[next ivy]

bypasses should work in satisfactory, right ?

[tall lantern]

if it's a shorter route

[ornate saffron]

I just hand crafted a few stacks when early, I still havent needed anymore 200 hours later

[next ivy]

do signals here disallow train flow in the opposite direction theyre facing ?

[tall lantern]

yes

unless you have a signal facing each way there

[strange vortex]

Can I get some tips?

[dense violet]

on?

[rough shore]

Satisfactory i think.

[dense violet]

specifically

if not specific - try not falling into the void

[rough shore]

unless u want to obviously

[ornate saffron]

Ada does not flirt with aliens

@void gorge I hope you feel better.

Easter eggs rarely agree with me. so i do not partake

[lean fossil]

why is my train glowing.

[rough shore]

probably because of glowing stuff

[lean fossil]

True

[ornate saffron]

its a common bug. I save and laod when it bothers me and it goes away

I assume you mean the red outline

[rough shore]

sounds to me like a sick bug

[lean fossil]

how to stop my foundations from z fighting
(I HAVE To clip them)

[next ivy]

you could use a mod like infinite nudge
or use a material where its not as obvious

[fiery root]

Fellas
Is the alt iron plate recipe a good one? It needs 20 wire tho

[tall lantern]

all recipes (alt or not) are good at something, you'll have to learn to weigh the tradeoffs

sometimes the tradeoff's pretty clear like here (adds copper, reduces iron), others are less obvious, things like space, power, complexity

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[next ivy]

yea concrete would have less obvious Z fighting

since the texture is more uniform

[fiery root]

I see
So giving that i have a way better iron production at my place abd pretty less copper, i should logically stay at the iron recipe, yes?

[lean fossil]

that is concrete.

[tall lantern]

seems a reasonable conclusion

and from that you've already grasped that the usefulness of alts depends on what you have access to nearby, nice

[autumn musk]

Hey question how to play 1.2 on epic games

[spice patio]

Install Satisfactory Experimental that shows Update 8 image.

[next ivy]

weird that the borders are so dark then

[abstract heron]

@void gorge hope u feel better will there be a patch this week and is there a video this week Friday?

[lean fossil]

"next stop is unreachable" shit is so fucking reachable

[mortal ginkgo]

Manually? Yes. Not by AI.

[lean fossil]

NO NO IT LITERALLY WENT THROUH A SECOND AGO BY THE AI-

ITS TRYING TO GO FROM 2 TO 4 WHAT

[mortal ginkgo]

See. Something goofed up.

[lean fossil]

RIGHT NOW ITS TRYING TO FROM 2 TO 3...

ITS AT 3

[rough shore]

Someone doesnt know how to use trains 😂🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

Train is mental. Train is unhinged.

[lean fossil]

i had to redo the timetable...I literally just did the exact same thing and now its working

[rough shore]

U just dont want to admit u had a really stupid mistake going on there pal

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> hope u feel better mikael will there be a patch this week and is there a video this week Friday?

[magic dirge]

Does it make sense to play with both SMART! and Infinite Nudge at the same time?

[ornate saffron]

did we end up getting the bug patch that was promised last week?

[abstract heron]

no 😛

[ornate saffron]

I dont know what smart is. But if they have overlapping features and/or hotkeys it may cause issues

[worn oar]

I can't stop myself from adding in somersloops

[small crypt]

i use them for elevator stuff and the uh

slugs

[worn oar]

Gigajuicing my production lines is somehow deeply satisfying and I don't know why

[ornate saffron]

Nothing wrong with that, Its a Adavnced Game Setting for a reason, the devs gave us options for many play styles

[earnest ridge]

Patch is next week: #satisfactory-experimental message

[abstract heron]

not this week but next week

[ornate saffron]

If you havent joined already there is a Offical Modding Discord

[small crypt]

anyone ever get disoriented with distance? like i keep finding ill travel forever to get to a node i scanned, build something there, then i turn around and im like right next to my space elevator basically

[worn oar]

If anything it's the opposite for me, the travel time feels a lot longer than it is

[earnest ridge]

Correct, nothing this week.

[small crypt]

they should make stingers eat power cables

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/why-michael-scott-the-office-why-are-the-way-that-you-are-gif-5593972

[small crypt]

bonus points if they gain the ability to burrow and wait to ambush you when you come to see why your power grid failed

[worn oar]

Blowing up a rock to discover a bus-sized green spider is bad enough already, thanks.

[small crypt]

TIL that can happen

[worn oar]

There are three or four of those and one of them is really open too, so after I recovered from nearly having a heart attack and dying I spent 10 minutes carefully boxing it in under the floor using cargo containers and foundations so that I could recover my stuff without dying to poison gas.

[bitter crow]

ive just reached aluminum, could someone tell me if its gonna be essential, like plastic. And if so, should i build a centralised factory for it, that ships it out.

[lament niche]

can we ban this user

[worn oar]

Absolutely essential and you will want a factory for it. Arguably more important than iron.

[lament niche]

yes it's very essential

[bitter crow]

how much do you think i will need per minute?

[worn oar]

Start with one node, you can scale up more in tier 8 and 9

Takes a fair bit of effort to exploit even one node

[bitter crow]

👍

[west jackal]

I did 12300 ingots/min

[worn oar]

Come on don't scare him, that's last of the endgame type production

[west jackal]

Ive run out. But im out of bauxite... so not much i can do without burning sam

[west jackal]

No? I used 6k for t7/8

[small crypt]

i do 1 node for everything so far, by 1 node i mean 1 pure so ill do 2 normals

[bitter crow]

ill probably do 480/minute to begin with

[west jackal]

4kish for nuclear power

And the rest for personal use /t9

[bitter crow]

god damn

welp, thanks for this information, it helped.

[worn oar]

Nuclear power is not required to beat the game, but you might enjoy doing it anyway

[bitter crow]

ive heard its a living hell

[zenith pecan]

I'm aiming to nuclear power just for the sake of it, I already can't use all the power I have as is.

[bitter crow]

btw ill do 240 aluminum sheets and 240 ingots

[worn oar]

It's a logistics puzzle, one of the most complex. But you've already solved logistics puzzles by this point.

[zenith pecan]

Some of the logistics are made a lot easier when you use extra floors for sub components.

[ornate saffron]

naw, you just need to plan things out and take your time

[turbid ether]

can someone help me? https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1491030300069855334

[white dawn]

It's just production lines like anything else. Especially if you do Plutonium (or Ficsonium) it can get complex, but all it is is Factory

[wraith tinsel]

irgendwer deutsch wo mir bei meiner fabrik helfen kann

[next ivy]

"wo"

[white dawn]

The main wrinkle is that you can't directly sink Uranium/Plutonium Waste, so you need to have a plan for what to do with that. For Uranium Waste your choice is "store or turn into Plutonium Rods," for Plutonium Rods your choice is "burn it (creating Plutonium waste) or sink the rods," and for Plutonium Waste your choice is "store or turn into Ficsonium"

I'd wager the most common setup is convert-to-Plutonium-rods-then-sink-the-rods but any of the options are quite viable

Storing Uranium Waste can be a bit of a bother since it accumulates so quickly, but that's nothing that a chonky ISC blueprint or two can't fix. :)

[west jackal]

Burning plut rods in drones is good too

(With sinking extra)

[mental torrent]

i just started a new world and see all the changes on the experimental branch i dont even wanna play anymore lol

[west jackal]

??

[white dawn]

Yeah, IMO that's just an "extra" you can do if you've decided to sink the rods, though. :) But yeah, if you don't mind irradiating drone ports, and are sinking the Pu rods anyway, they do make an excellent drone fuel

[west jackal]

Experimental doesnt even have that many changes...

[mental torrent]

nooo i meant i dont wanna play the main game anymore

[worn oar]

I did the math and I think you can make like a full belt of plutonium waste if you sloop the last bit in the chain. It's kind of hilarious

[small crypt]

falling into the water in build mode is the best

[white dawn]

Personally I feel they're an absolute waste in drones. If I've spent the effort/resources to make Plutonium Rods, I'm gonna burn those suckers, darnit. I'd rather have Pu Waste than leave all that "free" power on the ground. :D And drones can be fuelled with practically anything nowadays

[mental torrent]

the changes on the branch are so good that i lost the will to play without them

[ornate saffron]

Fluid strucks, zooping signs, Painted Rails, And revamped Truck system is pretty much all of it. well bug fixes too.

Its a happy gift when it comes to main but im not holding off for it

[mental torrent]

i love using trucks, im super excited for it personally. trains are just kinda boring after a while, and the vehicle systems sucks to use

[bitter crow]

im doing 210-240-20 for sheets, ingots and casings

anything bad w that?

[ornate saffron]

I agree with the current vehicle method, This is a ME issue tho, as i cannot drive lol

[white dawn]

I'm honestly gonna miss driving-to-create-paths. I should really get on the Questions site and request that be retained as an option, even if it's just laying splines behind you as you drive

[plain marten]

how do you make the center markings on road turns look good

[white dawn]

Aha, figured I'd've been beaten to it: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69c3c616f991d027c570f97f

[ornate saffron]

I use three asphalt foundations, flanked by Half concrete foundations. Placeing a line down the middle of them

[small crypt]

any good trick to measure a consistent distance in the water? so my extractors on 1 side can be as far away from foundations as the ones on the other?

[ornate saffron]

place foundations and a pipe support then you can line up the water extractor input with the pipe support

[zenith pecan]

I wish curvy wavy foundations could be made in a similar way to how railways are laid down, same for walls.

[plain marten]

indeed

[mental torrent]

wait splines behind you sounds kinda awesome actually

[white dawn]

Yeah, I feel like it'd be a nice compromise, and you'd still be able to lay down the splines manually instead, if you prefer

Though I assume there's probably a lot more work required to implement such a thing than my simple little suggestion would imply, so I'm not holding my breath for it. :D

Maybe in v1.3. :P

[stark ridge]

does satisfactory have parameterized blueprints similar to factorio?

[mental torrent]

the only problem with the current system is just the uncertainty of what's going on, and it feels hard to setup something that needs high throughput with multiple trucks without a 16 lane highway so they dont hit eachother or fly away

or the wheels clipping in foundations

[stark ridge]

acutally a work around would be fast "copy recipe from this building to this other building" if that exists

[white dawn]

Nope, very different system to Factorio's. As is usual: try to forget everything you learned in Factorio when playing Satisfactory; they're very different games. :)

[next ivy]

that exists

check keybind

[white dawn]

Yeah, you can Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V machine settings (including shards/sloops/etc), though that doesn't integrate with blueprints at all. Has to be done on a per-machine basis

Though at least you don't have to go into the machines' control panels to do so

[bitter crow]

wait a minute this isnt that difficult

[stark ridge]

yea that works. thank you.

[small crypt]

can the peener shaped fart plants be destroyed somehow

[bitter crow]

is aluminum casings the most important one, for industrial use?

[white dawn]

When I'm doing bigger builds, I tend to just end up with custom blueprints for that one build. At least it's pretty quick to open a blueprint, change a recipe or whatever, and then save with a new name

[white dawn]

Yes! Find some sulfur and research it in your MAM

(And while you're at it, make sure to check the MAM frequently for anything you can research. All sorts of goodies in there)

[white dawn]

All aluminum products are useful; you'll want 'em all.

[ornate saffron]

Like any part it depends on you choices through out the game, I generally make a quantity of sheets and casings for pioneer use (more sheets as they are for mk5 belts) then leave the rest as ingots until i have a need

[bitter crow]

oh yeah thats clever

ive already figured out what i need for personal use

i guess ill put the rest as ingots until i need 'em

[white dawn]

Oh, one other thing: you do need to have steel available to actually make use of that stuff from the MAM. Though even if you're not producing steel yourself yet, you'd be able to scavenge some from crash sites, if you're willing to go on walkabout for awhile

[small crypt]

yeah i got a big leg up from the crash salvage then made steel proper

[bronze kindle]

hello!! i am currently at Tier six and Phase 3, now i am thinking about making a bigger factory for iron parrts: such as iron plates, nuts, rods, reinforced iron plate, computer, stator, rotors - would that be worth it ? or should i build everything apart ?

and what do i need more later on the game of the things mentioned above - so i can calculate how many i should produce per minute

[next ivy]

just make more when you need them