satisfactory

[lost cloak]

you need a whole ass cart just for the canisters

[red sun]

It makes it hardER

It's an added task for not-tons of benefit

[tawdry charm]

Not a few if you need to transport like 2k water/min and you need like 30 packegers and unpackagers at every end (gd reference)

[red sun]

Why add a bunch of extra machines at each end if there's an incredibly easy way to not do that?

[feral vector]

this game makes it very difficult to decide when I should explore and when I should keep building stuff

[red sun]

If you like doing that sure go ahead, but I don't see tons of point

[red sun]

I tend to do most of my exploration near the beginning, I like to get my smart splitters and depots as soon as I can

[tawdry charm]

Expleroe when you feel like it, are tired of building factories, or you need sloops, drives, spheres

[lost cloak]

got jetpack? explore
no jetpack? get jetpack

[rigid surge]

you are all just lazy is what im hearing, ficsit is not angry just disappointed.

[feral vector]

I should probably get more hard drives but I just finished phase 3 and I have so many milestones to do, and there's always something where I'm like... I want to automate this before I explore so it stockpiles while I'm out

[lost cloak]

ficsit wants efficiency. No point transporting water, thats never efficient

[red sun]

Extra machines = more power consumption = less efficiency = Ficsit is disappointed in you here buddy

[lost cloak]

bingo

[feral vector]

I have that stuff, just always want to automate one more thing before I explore lol

[lost cloak]

and more overhead, and longer to set up

[feral vector]

to be fair I feel like I just unlocked the real jetpack... liquid biofuel is SO MUCH BETTER than solid biofuel holy shit lol

[lost cloak]

oh yea, solid is.. rough

[lost cloak]

get pulse nobs too, they work GREAT with biofuel jetpack

[feral vector]

when I was building my stupid sky bridge train to where my oil is I saw a bunch of stuff guess I'll go get hard drives while HMF and crystal oscillators and stuff are automated

[red sun]

Fair enough lmao, I'm usually building factories until I'm either

1. bored
2. in need of materials that I'm too lazy to fetch
3. procrastinating
4. a combo of the above

[lost cloak]

3

i pick 3

always that 3...

i need a factory finished, but first let me 3...

ill get to work after 3..

[feral vector]

wtf is a pulse nob

[red sun]

Pulse nobelisk but pulse nob does sound funny

Sounds like a euphemism

[lost cloak]

you put down a few nobs, smack them and you go flying. Then you can use bio jetpack to keep speed and steer

[feral vector]

nob like the bomb things?

I only have the normal ones so far lol good to know

[lost cloak]

yes

ye you can get pulse quite easily

[feral vector]

I just abuse the shit out of ladders and 4m ramps

my world looks like fortnite in some places

[rigid surge]

not when I have 1.8 tw buddy

[lost cloak]

you can get from one side of the world to the other, in one jump. With just a couple pulse nobs

i do strongly recommend automating crystal oscillators though, you may get addicted to them 😄

[red sun]

Still less efficient

Doesn't matter by how much

[ornate saffron]

Snoop and Mariah pesting you?

[rigid surge]

every one of my factories run at 100% buddy 😄

[lost cloak]

who asked

[red sun]

Uses more power than it needs to

Look man I don't give a flippity fuck how you play the game lmao

Go for it

[cunning geode]

I'm half way through tier 8, about to work on fused modular frames. How many per minute should I aim for? I can see I'll want at least a few per minute for elevator parts, but I don't know how much more I should produce to have a comfortable amount for building the machines that require it.

[red sun]

I just personally see no point

[rigid surge]

seemed bothered just a minute ago

[rigid surge]

no ones speaking to you

[red sun]

I really could not give less of a shit

[lost cloak]

also everything running at 100% is not even a flex. There are many situations where its a sign of just personal OCD tinkering, which is NOT ficsit approved efficiency

[rigid surge]

you did just a minute ago buddy

[red sun]

I repeat

[rigid surge]

same

[red sun]

I really could not, never have, never will, give a shit

[lost cloak]

STAY MAD

[red sun]

I'm not gonna flip my lid over how someone plays a singleplayer game lmao

[rigid surge]

ngl im just rage baiting 😄

[red sun]

I noticed

[lost cloak]

Hes plugging his Twitch but has not streamed in ages. Bro get to work small man

[rigid surge]

who transports water what the hell

[red sun]

3/10 effort

[feral vector]

why would you not just underclock some machines though?

[lost cloak]

https://www.twitch.tv/hazeee0420/videos?filter=archives&sort=time look at this lazyness, this is not efficient

[ornate saffron]

gamingwithdoc

[rigid surge]

who cares about that buddy 😄

[rigid surge]

you maddddddddddddd

hahahahahahahahaha

[red sun]

I can hear my braincells imploding, it's starting to sound like pop rocks up in the old noggin

[feral vector]

I have one per minute for now 😛

[red sun]

I feel like I'm being trepanned

[lost cloak]

oh not saying underclocking either. I do try to match the clock speed to demand, but to take a very simple example.. you dont make a dedicated iron plate factory to throw into the sink, or into dimension storage. Thats just insane.

You leach off basic parts from existing factories, which will cause them to dip to like 96-99% for short periods, but it gets you all the basic resources you need without needing useless factories for them

[unkempt blade]

I miss the pop rock oreos. Those were the only good type of oreo

[red sun]

Excuse me I have never heard of these

[rigid surge]

nah birthday cake are the best

[lost cloak]

thats... sufficient. for now

[feral vector]

wtf normal oreos are great

[red sun]

They sound good af

[unkempt blade]

I think they were just a limited run. I haven't seen them around here lately

[red sun]

Probably. We have Creme Egg flavour Oreos kicking around right now

[lost cloak]

ey get to work, start streaming. Dont bait us with a twitch plug thats dead

here ill follow you, just increased ur follower count by almost 2%

[red sun]

Doin' the lord's work out here

[lost cloak]

if stock market went up 2% right now i'd be glowing

trump ruining it

2026 bean ruff

[rigid surge]

bro get a job, have a shave, maybe youd get laid, you major virgin

[lost cloak]

daaaamn hes hitting low

[feral vector]

hmm I kinda set up one machine worth of everything except spelevator parts

wtf are you guys arguing on discord for 😂

[red sun]

Christ in a can the pair of you wind your necks in before I knock your heads together

[ornate saffron]

Well...

My start factory is often just all the phase one parts for personal use.

Then I do the same for steal and motors

[feral vector]

only time I was being an asshole on here was when someone spoiled part of the ending, I don't wanna know what I'm building yet rip

[feral vector]

I think I have everything automated except for stators?

[fluid sapphire]

this one right here officer, stealing from the company

[red sun]

Entirely justified

[unkempt blade]

In that way it's technically it's a megafactory which is peak independency. This is the most well organized your factory will ever get!

[ornate saffron]

I did stators too. Although I won't need them for personal use until 1.2

[rigid surge]

touch some grass buddy

[feral vector]

thank you lol, it was late at night and the only other person here was mad at me for telling the guy he was prick for spoiling stuff when there is a spoiler channel

[wispy sun]

can someone help me rq

[feral vector]

ah, you'll need them to build like... buildings or something?

[tall lantern]

not without knowing the problem

[rigid surge]

he started getting personal over transporting water 😂

[tall lantern]

don't ask to ask, just ask the question

[lost cloak]

i tend to just rush manufacturer then make one proper factory that makes heavy modular frames, computers and high speed connectors. And i tune that factory to be 100% efficient at full thoughput, and i use alts such that all lower tier items are being used at some point. Minus motors, they go on a separate line..

Then i put dimensional storages thoughout the factory to leach off every part.

When dimension storage eventually fills up, the factory goes up to 100% efficiency. With very small dips as i use parts from dim storage.

Then i only sink "high" end parts (for midgame at least)

[wispy sun]

okay so i have a conveyor belt leading to a conveyor splitter that leads to a constructor, the splitter is connected to both of the conveyor and i want to make screws out of iron rods and the iron rods are just not passing through

if you want i can send video in dms

[tall lantern]

no thanks

[red sun]

#1038092680493801533 with some screenshots might help

[tall lantern]

make sure it's actually connected, then that ^

[feral vector]

yeah that seems better but I'm not gonna pull that off on a first playthrough

[red sun]

Stay-tours? I think

[real shale]

stay-ter

[lost cloak]

oh damn no for first playthough just vibe, dont follow any rules at all. Just VIBE and enjoy it. i wish i could play it for the first time again

[unkempt blade]

"stors", the "at" is silent

[tall lantern]

correctly, stay-ter

[red sun]

There's a schwa in there somewhere

[feral vector]

might as well keep all my early game production of the basic stuff going. I think iron rods and screws are the only ones where I have overflow going to storage

[feral vector]

I'm really trying hard not to look too much stuff up and ruin it for myself

[red sun]

Then again I'm Bri*ish, there's schwas everywhere

[ornate saffron]

You need them for truck stations in 1.2

[feral vector]

state - er sounds like the hillbilly way to say it 😛

[red sun]

[mater-from-cars.jpg]

[fluid sapphire]

there's only one buildable that requires screws - the awesome shop

[unkempt blade]

That's good to use them for buildables again. I'm not really sure why they got taken out of power storage

[hasty mango]

how good are blueprints? never used one in my life of satis and building everything by myself

[ornate saffron]

Hey Bobby-Joe, grab me one of dem dar sat ters

[feral vector]

wonder if I'll even use trucks lol that's a problem for future me

[red sun]

Very helpful for some, I personally don't really use them tbh

[feral vector]

exactly ahahaha

[ornate saffron]

Agreed

[fluid sapphire]

they are huge time savers and convenience for stuff you build repeatedly

[feral vector]

not using blueprints is unhinged 0.o

[fluid sapphire]

not using blueprints severely limits the scale you can build at

[hasty mango]

basically you build the stuff and then when you save it and want it somewhere else too, it builds automatically?

or how does it work

[feral vector]

I'm a scrub and I still use them for like 8x constructors or multiple smelters or whatever

[red sun]

It's building a bunch of buildables much like just one buildable, basically

Plonk tons of shit down in one go

[fluid sapphire]

thats primarily how i use them

[unkempt blade]

Words like that were a lot more fun before the internet was big. I used to read new words and just pronounce them wrong until I embarrassed myself in public but now I just google pronunciations which is way less fun

[red sun]

I use them for rail pillars and that's about it

[feral vector]

for all I know that's the correct way to pronounce it, just thought that was funny 😛

[red sun]

I like to build my factories "organically" on a whim, they have more character that way

[ornate saffron]

cANT REPLY THERE LOL

[fluid sapphire]

i build most of my machine blueprints like lego pieces that snap together with the auto-connect feature. this basically means i can set up blocks of machines very quickly, with all the wiring and belts already connected
#screenshots message - but yeah, you build it in the blueprint designer, save it, and then it'll be available for repeat building

[feral vector]

lol yeah you get the notification but it gets nuked instantly

[ornate saffron]

im guilty of t hat too

[feral vector]

lol both seem fine

[unkempt blade]

Rotorical is also a great word

[feral vector]

i have 193 awesome tickets 0.o

[ornate saffron]

im just shy of 500 i think

1.1mil points a minute

[fading whale]

Wether you get the words right or not, never have any ragrats for trying.

[rigid surge]

im on like 26mil per ticket now 🙁

[red sun]

Gay men, brother

[fluid sapphire]

well, lucky you, mine cost like 100m each

[unkempt blade]

Exactly! take a look! it's in a book! reading raaaaaaainbow 🌈 📖 🌈📗 🌈📚 🌈

[rigid surge]

dammmm

[ornate saffron]

I largely ignore tickets after all the awesome shop is purchased

[red sun]

purchaseed

[rigid surge]

I want all the trophies haha

[feral vector]

jeez lol

[ornate saffron]

I get that. I did that to when 1.0 came out ^_^

[unkempt blade]

I get all the statues and then I get as many of the cheapest statue as possible and put them everywhere around the hub

[fluid sapphire]

i already have all statues though

[ornate saffron]

i left my nuclear math on my thumbdrive..... on my desk at work

[fluid sapphire]

but i want to fill my hand slots with golden nuts, except for 1 slot for the coffee cup

[feral vector]

I'm too indecicive for this game heh, idk what to buy. need some better styles for stuff

[fluid sapphire]

buy everything

[leaden turret]

-# sliding doors are unhinged

[feral vector]

and like I don't even have beam supports gonna get those for sure so my next railway isn't a stupid sky bridge

[feral vector]

ba-dum-tss

[leaden turret]

[unkempt blade]

Ask one of your coworkers to email it to you. If they do report them to IT for plugging in a usb drive that they just found lying around

[red sun]

Terrible. 10/10

[feral vector]

I probably should have got this double ramp before I made huge ramps in the sky that I have to look at

at least have it clean looking instead of all jagged

[ornate saffron]

this was my solution this time

#design-and-architecture message

made it a bp

Ive never powered a nuclear reactor.

ive only used rods to power drones

[feral vector]

looks pretty clean

I gotta figure out a blueprint for supports for a train track at some point but I have my train working to bring rubber and plastic for now so I'm not too bothered

[ornate saffron]

i use to much cement in my builds. im making 1000/min

[feral vector]

man I make like 20

[winged root]

Regarding programmable splitters, if you have the input overflow + item like iron rod would it only filter iron rods in case of overflow?

[ornate saffron]

no itll do both

[feral vector]

you mean one output iron rods and one overflow? it will send them all to the iron rods one until its full

hmm.... does any undefined mean overflow will continue on?

[winged root]

No in 1 track have 2 filters overflow + iron rod

Though it seems it doesn’t narrow the filter and treats it as 2 separate commands

[ornate saffron]

Overflow happens when the otehr outputs are not available.

Rods selects rods

so all rods will go through that output plus the anyitem that has nowhere to go

[feral vector]

I have mine setup for like, iron rods left into a container, any undefined straight to let other things go to their storage, then right is overflow to go to an overflow belt with a bunch of mergers

so I could do left iron rods, straight ahead to the other containers is overflow? and stuff that isn't iron rods will go there?

and then directly into a sink instead of having a parallel belt with mergers for overflow?

[feral vector]

I just realized you said programmable splitters, I don't even have those unlocked I'm no help lol

[ornate saffron]

they are the same as smart plitters but you can assign multiple options to a single output

[winged root]

All good it’s just I though programmable could filter more accurately but for 98% of my use case smart is sufficient

[feral vector]

yeah I get the general idea but I've never used one

[gaunt crypt]

I haven't had much luck finding automation cases where programmable splitters are superior to smart splitters using only vanilla tech

[ornate saffron]

I used them for my Mall back in the day

[feral vector]

yeah what would the use case even be? splitting up sushi lines into more sushi lines?

[ornate saffron]

or Suchis into regular

[gaunt crypt]

I'll occasionally set up a big dumb container that will split everything I actually want in my inventory one way and all the garbage that builds up in there the other way just for a quick cleanout

but actually leveraging programmable splitters always seems to involve some other piece of modded tech

[feral vector]

but if you're going into regular belts you only need one thing per output?

[fluid sapphire]

useful for feedback loops

just for a bit of compactness, instead of multiple smart splitters

[gaunt crypt]

Maybe I'd have an easier time visualizing it with a practical example but I suspect whatever problem it's solving I found some other way.

[fluid sapphire]

you can for sure solve it with just smart splitters, just less compact

[gaunt crypt]

whats the practical example where the programmable splitter is shrinking it though?

other than the manual inventory sorter I mentioned

[fluid sapphire]

something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6b72xF8pc

[gaunt crypt]

I guess I just never design myself into that problem but okay I see the point

[fluid sapphire]

its just the convenience of routing the overflow to one belt instead of two

[bleak valley]

The only Time I’ve used a programmable splitter was in my meat grinder to split up the enemy parts but all it does is avoid one smart splitter

[fluid sapphire]

i did that on purpose because i normally dont do stuff like this at all

[white dawn]

Basically, yeah. If you go heavy into sushi processing that can be useful

[feral vector]

huh, your train can't run you over?

[white dawn]

It's pure convenience -- anything you can accomplish with a Programmable you could also accomplish with a collection of Smart+Mergers

But it can be handy especially in cases like building Central Storage and whatnot. Plus the model/animated-texture looks cool. :)

[gaunt crypt]

I've used them heavily paired w/ mods. All kinds of applications there depending on what you're running.

[white dawn]

On my last Central Storage setup I'd have bulk sushi deliveries being dropped off by vehicle/train/drone which would get sorted out into individual sushi belts per "floor" of the storage, for instance

Programmables just let all that process take a bit less space

[feral vector]

dying to fall damage when you have a jetpack is real smart

[leaden turret]

could petition CSS to have FICSIT add an emergency tank that gets drained before splat

[feral vector]

tank wasn't even empty I just didn't think I was going that fast XD

one of those strong hogs that drop 5 materials combo'd me off the ledge and I was flying down a 4m foundation ramp lol

[leaden turret]

I was implying an auto-firing of the jets to protect FICSIT property.

cleaning Pioneer guts off of an expensive jetpack is not efficient

[feral vector]

that sounds great lol, late game jetpack upgrade

man making a sky bridge over to my oil sure showed me what a bad job I did exploring, there are hard drives and slugs the whole way here

[fluid sapphire]

slugs are everywhere, thats not particularly shocking

[feral vector]

yeah, more the hard drives. and there are sloops and mercer spheres as soon as I pull out the scanner

[winged root]

I have created a quantum hog, somehow when the hog was in its rock throwing animation and got hit by a poison plant each time I shot it for a solid minute it would teleport to another location

[leaden turret]

either that or you found a herd of invisible hogs

[daring bane]

i keep finding my self overwhelmed during phase3 not sure what to do , lol

[feral vector]

automate all the new stuff you unlock, get a train going to where your oil is

[valid glacier]

can polymer resin go into awesome sinks?

[daring bane]

ye i mean know about automating everything, just not sure where to start and if i wanna build fancy or just get it automated asap or focus on MAM upgrades etc ^^

[feral vector]

you can just feed manufacturers with containers to finish the ACU and modular engine if needed, I had so many extra things laying around that it was a non issue

[feral vector]

yeah

[valid glacier]

ok

[feral vector]

I automated as much as I could first so when I explored or built my train line I was producing the new stuff like computers and heavy frames

[indigo geyser]

Just about everything can go in the sink. It's only the stuff you really want to put in that can't go lol

[feral vector]

but I had to bring plastic back to my starter factory myself using hyper tubes lol maybe a train first would be smart

[valid glacier]

its going to be a pain automating ACU, but i have to do it because i need it for phase 4.. wish me luck

[feral vector]

if you're making tons of resin you might want to set up some plastic/rubber refineries though

[feral vector]

yeah I'm gonna worry about that later lol I'm still exploring, haven't set up aluminum yet

assume I'll want a factory automting all the space elevator stuff for this phase

[valid glacier]

wait what milestone do you have to unlock to be able to automate aluminium?

[feral vector]

soon as you finish phase 3

[valid glacier]

ah okay

[feral vector]

I got impatient and container fed the ACU and modular engine so I'm done

[plucky bone]

Holy. Heh heh. Finally.

That was no fun

Power grid is fixed. Went from 6 or 7 to 3.

Thank gosh for the interactive map giving you a layout of yo stuff cuz I woulda took days to do that.

[winged root]

Hyper tube canons!!!

Build some moreeee

[plucky bone]

Those are fun. I just have a net of em so far

No cannon or accelerator yet. Can't figure it out how to boost up.

[winged root]

I have 2 at main base (I have learned how to go anywhere on the map with them through many Fiscit biological resources)

It’s about the tubes, you build supports next to each other, remove every other support and delete the outgoing end of the hypertube between them, after that how many hypertube entrances you add is up to you

I don’t know how to
Make the centrifuge yet tho

[plucky bone]

Ok. I think I got an idea. I'll try that later thx.

[winged root]

Gl

[feral vector]

you want a video that shows it?

[plucky bone]

Nah. I'm resisting the urge.

Thx though.

[unkempt blade]

smart, more of a reason to keep using factory carts to get around

[plucky bone]

Haven't even tried one of em yet.

[unkempt blade]

sacrilege! blasphemy! you should unlock them next 😄

[plucky bone]

I have

[fading whale]

Part of Factory Carts Are Keto Friendly just died.

[unkempt blade]

Nah this is my life's work. I'm just here to spread the good word of carting

and to make sure people know you can eat them even on certain restrictive diets

[plucky bone]

I'd rather fly around with a powerline. Lol.

[dusk mirage]

Anyone know how fast the elevator is?

[unkempt blade]

a bit slower than a factory cart

[dusk mirage]

so, about 40 km/h?

[fading whale]

Probably a question more suited for a pirated channel and not the official Discord.

[feral vector]

do you not know where you are lmao

[fading whale]

Plenty. And none of them are on the official Discord for their respective games.

[warm finch]

why would you even pirate satisfactory? and a terrible question to ask on an official discord.

[cold berry]

I took 2 hours, finished up my copper processing for my computer plant. Now all there is to do is completely reconfigure my train setup to get input into it for plastic, crystals, steel pipes and reinforced plates

[tender loom]

cuz i dont got the money for it?

[fading whale]

Easy 😄

[dusk mirage]

I just made a 131 km long elevator and I think it's going to take hours for my corpse to arrive at the top

[unkempt blade]

You could always sell your plasma. That would buy you a lot of games

[warm finch]

then learn how to make money. doesn't take much these days. but don't be asking about pirated games here on the official discord. It breaks TOS rules and will result in a ban

[cold berry]

Yeah, it's not that hard. I'm just bitching

[fading whale]

"I'm this far now. Only the rest left" 😂

[unkempt blade]

Yay trains! That sounds fun

[eager scaffold]

my only answer to that question as i did pirate it before buying is to test if my laptop can handle satisfactory and if i would enjoy it past like 10 hours
but i did save money and buy it 2 weeks later - which i almost do now for all my games as i have so much bought stuff that have barely any playtime

[fading whale]

And that sucks.
But this is the wrong place for any talks about piracy for this game.

[feral vector]

idk why you wouldn't just try mods and see if it works if you're gonna get the game for free anyway

[dusk mirage]

Gus should join the satisfactory modding server so he can get banned there too.

[unkempt blade]

if you're going to pirate games you at least need to get a level of meta with it to make it interesting. Like pirate Sid Meiers Pirates to play as a pirate while wearing an eye patch and a hook hand

[fading whale]

I miss IRC chats when you could see when someone got muted, kicked and/or banned.
...And hit with the occasional trout.

[dusk mirage]

Pirate games? nah, do piracy in games: install eve online and join the goon squad

[storm zephyr]

can the jetpack take fuel from my dimensional depots

[fading whale]

No

Has to be in your inventory.

[unkempt blade]

there's really only one way to know for sure and it's to exhaust your fuel at max height and see if it refills before you hit the ground

[fading whale]

Just make sure you have enough air-time to fiddle with it.

[storm zephyr]

similarly, can i use bombs from my depot?

[bleak valley]

I don’t think the depot works for anything but crafting and building

It can store those things so you can drag a backup into your inventory

But can’t auto afaik

[dusk mirage]

Sure you can, drag them into your inventory and bombs away!

[storm zephyr]

packaged liquid biofuel is ideal for vehicles and jetpacks and stuff right

[dusk mirage]

nope, it's not fully automatable for vehicles and while it lasts long in the jetpack you can have better flight speeds and controll with other fuels

[storm zephyr]

so what is better?

[fading whale]

Nothing automatically leaves the DM. Storage only. You cannot consume from it.
Unless constructing something.

[dusk mirage]

for height, turbo fuel, speed and controll is ionized fuel or regular fuel if you can't get that yet

[feral vector]

green spiders are jerks

[fading whale]

I am inbetween. Rocket fuel gets you places.

[dusk mirage]

and vehicles run the same on anythiing you put in, so anything you can automate and stuff in there is the best for you

Just do note that uranium fuel rods turn them into rmoving radiation spots

[storm zephyr]

rubber is kinda useless for me rn when do i get a use for it

[dusk mirage]

You get many uses for it soon after yyou get it, but you know theres a wiki?
You can find all this info there with way better formating and less typos.

[fading whale]

And less opinionated 😄

[feral vector]

I noticed the same, all the stuff you automate in phase 3 wants plastic

[dusk mirage]

All that plastic wasted into making those modular engines, WASTED I say!

[feral vector]

fair enough lol I figured I missed something

all the non space elevator stuff at least 😛

[real shale]

FICSIT does not waste.

Sink those modular engines

[feral vector]

I still have so many space elevator parts stockpiled incase I want to container feed them for some new parts lol

worked out good in phase 3, I had so many extra automated wiring and smart plating

[static gyro]

is there anywhere where i can send images? ive been stuck on this thing for like 2 days and idk what to do lol

[dusk mirage]

I set my space elevator requirements to x25 so my friend won't just slap some sloops to a manufacturer and haul the needed stuff by hand to it and skip the automation.

[tall lantern]

if you have questions and want help, consider #1038092680493801533 ?

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[static latch]

is er crate lake a good place for a coal power factory

[feral vector]

I think I saw a mod that permanantly marks resource nodes you walk past I think I might grab that... I don't want to use the interactive map I feel like a cheater lol

[tall lantern]

(in particular don't use #screenshots for questions)

[feral vector]

I used a map to find SAM when I got annoyed and I wish I just explored more first 😛

[deft sluice]

Sure, although later in the game i almost always convert it into my aluminum factory since it's close to the red forest biome and has a lot of water

[static latch]

er ok im like at the nothern forest but no big lakes have any coal nearby so

[cold berry]

Nah that's the one I don't care about looking up lol. The rest are a fun treasure hunt. There are not many good SAM nodes tho

[feral vector]

eh I didn't need a special node just wanted a little bit for research

[deft sluice]

That's basically satisfactory in a nutshell, very rarely will you find all the resources you need for anything in one place, satisfactory is a logistics game

[feral vector]

would have found one nearby if I went in the caves

[tall lantern]

coal power's got a few good spots not far from starting locations

[feral vector]

did you start in the grass area? there's a pretty clear place for coal gens

[cold berry]

Yeah, that's the one I use if it's in the ||Rocky desert||

[static latch]

lol ok but if u were at nothern forest wher ewould u put ur coal power

[tall lantern]

river to the west

[feral vector]

it's north of the starting area, there are like 4 nodes, you can run belts a few hundred meters to a lake

[tall lantern]

it has coal, it has water, it's the usual distance

[cold berry]

I was going to make fluctuators in my computer factory but like, no. I can just make them from a crafting bench with my Awakened SAM DD setup. I have 3 inputs because I wanted to be able to craft from inventory without it running out

Maybe later

[deft sluice]

Either at crater lake or the rocky desert spawn point

but only until i unlock oil, then i'd scrap the whole thing

[static latch]

rocky forest is quite far away soo ill do crater lake

[deft sluice]

crater lake is fine to get you through the early phases

[cold berry]

The Crater lake SAM node is tempting to use for my computer factory actuslly, wait. No. Don't give me ideas. I can't make it more complex.

[deft sluice]

On that note, it's crazy just how much having just 2x power consumptions warps the game completely

[cold berry]

;-;

[cold berry]

I'm on 75% :p

[deft sluice]

i've got 32 coal generators up right now and i cant even finish building the phase 2 components

[worn oar]

#screenshots message this is the best coal spot in the game

[deft sluice]

75% as in it's less power consumption? or 1.75x

[dusk mirage]

It's been an hour, and my corpse is still just nodding in the lift, still going up.

[worn oar]

Why? There's absolute buttloads of coal everywhere except north middle and SW corner of the map

[cold berry]

Less lol. I'm doing my "no-stress" run. I also have "keep everything" and "pure nodes" on

I plan to do a challenge run next

[deft sluice]

Oof, i'm doing 5x phase amounts, 2x powr consumption and randomized nodes

[cold berry]

This is my second playthrough but I only got to phase 4 unlock last time. I plan to go all the way this time

[cold berry]

I kept phase amounts normal, and I wish I increased it honestly. That part of the game is fun and too short if you have a good setup

But I'll be doing infinite runs of this game so w/e

I'll get to it in the next 20 years lol

[deft sluice]

eh, it's a bit of an eyesore for me, once i get into running 100 fuel gens the coal gens output is irrelevant so i just take it all down

[cold berry]

"randomized nodes" is so good for replayability and I can't wait for that part of my next run

[deft sluice]

it's created some interesting situations in my current playthrough

1 uranium node + 4 SAM nodes in the grassy hills spawn point lol

[dusk mirage]

I spawned into an area with no iron, copper or limestone in about 1,5 km range.

[worn oar]

Playing the same game for 2 decades is crazy

[feral vector]

I use keep everything too. it's not like it's hard to get your stuff back it's just tedious

[worn oar]

You get the exact same number of each node, so that means there's somewhere on the map that's jam packed with iron, copper, and limestone

[dusk mirage]

Yeah, too bad that wasn't my starting location, I decided to reroll instead of walking.

[deft sluice]

I do wish the purities was also randomized, or maybe i just didn't change that setting

[worn oar]

Totally reasonable I'd crash out if I had to play a map without any walkable resources

[white dawn]

Heh, I'll still occasionally play through a game from my youth. First-play-to-most-recent-play on many titles would definitely exceed 20 years many a time for myself. :D

[worn oar]

The spaghetti MUST flow

[worn oar]

I still sometimes play Age of Mythology which is one of the first games that really captivated me. But for 20 years straight, whew

[deft sluice]

I keep coming back to runescape lol, past 20 years by now for sure

[storm zephyr]

well yeah thats one way to say it

[dusk mirage]

I would comment on playing a game for years but then I think how I started playing FF7 when it was released and still play it. I feel old.

[storm zephyr]

i awlays start in northern forest cause everything you need is decently close

like its all within trucking distance

[fluid sapphire]

i stopped in 2011-2012 when everything went to shit, every once in a while i log back in for vibes, then wont log in again for another couple of years

[cold berry]

Rate my setup for my next run (note-, it's meant to be different, not hyper challenging);

-Randomized nodes, prioritize normal rarity nodes (question, is this close to vanilla disbursement?)

-More Normal nodes (I don't like poor quality nodes but don't want to have all pure like this again)

-"Keep inventory" off completely (currently on max)

-Power 150% (currently doing 75% so this is double for me)

-Space Elevator Parts x5

-(self-imposed) Space Elevator Parts factories have to be permanent and always on, and setup to a sink when not being used

-(self-imposed) minimum crafting bench use, only when necessary.

[storm zephyr]

mfs really be out here doing satisfactory challenge runs

[dusk mirage]

I did mine with 25% power usage but with pure nodes and 25 times the requirements for space elevator it makes you go for larrge scale automation, and ofc random node positions.

[worn oar]

The only resource which isn't majority normal rarity is iron, which is majority pure. Quartz and bauxite are tied rare with normal. I would personally hate power 1.5x since it throws off some of the recipes like biofuel. But it's totally valid.

Minimum crafting bench would drive me insane though, that's my crutch. Good setup, maybe consider higher on the elevator parts though

[cold berry]

In the satisfactory discord of all places, I should have some shame

[deft sluice]

My self imposed rules are no using build to climb, if i can't get there with my current gear, i dont go. No structures breaking physics (nothing floats, everything has to be structurally logical)

also i don't pick up items frm crash sites unless i can already manufacture it myself

and no doggos of course

[cold berry]

Counterpoint - that's what the self imposed "always on and sinking" is for, to keep the fun going because I like the space elevator, so I can look at my factory still churning out space elevator parts and pretend

But I'll still have access to the next phases

[fluid sapphire]

meanwhile me #screenshots message

i will build a factory for them, but not before i have everything unlocked

[marble torrent]

Does Coffee Stain plan on native HDR implementation?

[fluid sapphire]

seems unlikely

[storm zephyr]

@short fog how do you make roads that look like that

[fluid sapphire]

probably would have already

[cold berry]

That is one to add to my list. Sounds fun

[worn oar]

Sounds horrendous I won't lie. No foundations, power poles, belts to climb? And you can't even get a headstart on the MAM?

[marble torrent]

Thats unfortunate, its a very beautiful game

[worn oar]

And how do you plan to access that SAM in the middle of the void and the one on top of the tiny spire since you could hardly make something structurally logical to reach them. Both are pure SAM, can't miss 'em

[short fog]

you have a Asphalt thing in the Awsome shop with this you can make the texture and then use some markings

[sharp viper]

Wish there was an "L" shape for the zone foundation patterns

[deft sluice]

Nope

[storm zephyr]

can the jetpack use packaged fuel?

cause for some reason its only letting me use biofuel

oh nvm

[normal orbit]

click the cog and select which fuel

[deft sluice]

I don't need it to be perfectly sound lol, if i can add some pillars around it's fine

[storm zephyr]

wdym sam in the middle of the void

[normal orbit]

he prob means the node on the tall pillar to the west of the void pit south of red forest

[storm zephyr]

ah

[fluid sapphire]

packaged fuel is truly one of the worst feeling fuels for it though, trash burn time and elevation

[worn oar]

Do I? I thought there was one inside the void hole

[normal orbit]

there is not

[worn oar]

In the center

Hmmm okay

[storm zephyr]

i dont really have any other fuels so its the only one i can automate rn

[fluid sapphire]

packaged liquid biofuel

[storm zephyr]

cant automate it

[deft sluice]

you basically can

[fluid sapphire]

semi-automate it to the point where you only need to toss leaves or wood into a container

[deft sluice]

you spend like 5 minutes gathering biomass for hours of flight time

liquid biofuel is the way to go

[fluid sapphire]

for sure, goated burn time

[real shale]

That would be great if my world had any biomass left

[storm zephyr]

creatures

[fluid sapphire]

well you probably dont need liquid biofuel, do you

[normal orbit]

just make biomass from animals :p

[real shale]

That would be great if I had any animals left

[fluid sapphire]

also an option

[storm zephyr]

dont certain ones respawn???

[fluid sapphire]

what you do, mod out all the spawn points?

[real shale]

Only if there's no machines near their respawn points

[fluid sapphire]

what you do, cover the entire map with machines?

[storm zephyr]

i dont think thats true cause my oil farm is constantly swarmed by spiders

[real shale]

Maybe you haven't filled it with machines enough then

[worn oar]

0% chance you cut down everything on the map. I use mega chainsaw and I have hundreds of thousands of biomass worth of mycelium, wood, and leaves. And I haven't even cut down a whole biome worth of forests.

[normal orbit]

powered machines not idle (since idle basically use no power)

[storm zephyr]

I cut down the entire red forest to make a warehouse

[real shale]

Nobelisks

It's and LOTS of nobelisks

And lots and lots of time spent demolishing everything

[storm zephyr]

honestly i feel like regular fuel is plenty

[deft sluice]

i mean, you surely have rocket fuel by now so you don't really care anyways

[worn oar]

Well at that point package yourself some turbofuel

[real shale]

I don't care about nature correct, I demolish it all

The ideal world is one without trees

[worn oar]

My 7.5 GW liquid biofuel plant isn't even beginning to make a dent in my biomass reserves 😩

[raw spade]

hey guys, is there some speculation or some mention when the 1.2 releases ? thx

[storm zephyr]

is there a way to make hunting mercer spheres faster? i have the object scanner and radar towers but it still feels like im not finding enough

[deft sluice]

you know you can play 1.2 right now yeah?

[deft sluice]

use interactive map i guess

[worn oar]

I use the collectible indicator mod

[deft sluice]

or wait until you have rifle + jetpack + rocket fuel

[worn oar]

Works with all types of collectibles and is customizable

[storm zephyr]

i have jetpack+fuel+nobelisks

[raw spade]

yeah ik just want to play the stable to be sure, playing on dedicated

[crude canyon]

protip:
You can use rigor motor to get more out of the existing stators and rotors

[real shale]

Protip : you can use protips to help you with your gameplay

[worn oar]

Protip: shoot the enemies until they are defeated

[dusk mirage]

Is there any way to install both stable and experimental at the same time on steam?

[worn oar]

Install version 1. Copy the folder, name it something else. Update to the version you want. Whenever you want the other version, swap which one is named normally

[deft sluice]

finally, after 22 hours i'm done making 5k smart plates for phase 2

[worn oar]

Sheesh

[deft sluice]

yeah...5x phase parts with 2x power consumption is crazy

i can't really scale it up any further

[winged root]

🙁 random crash of pure virtual function being called (guess I gotta find out what’s caused this) see ya later

[worn oar]

Are you teleporting between biomes?

[dusk mirage]

Seeing the 62'500 versatile frameworks required for phase 3 made my friend make a whimpering sound, close the game, and leave the call.

[winged root]

Hyper cannoning though the crash occurred during normal sprint sliding, maybe the renderings crashed it late

[deft sluice]

at 5x?

[dusk mirage]

12'500 is going to be tough on double power consumption

[dusk mirage]

nope, 25x

[deft sluice]

ah

yeah well

[worn oar]

Extremely old bug, I don't know what the fix is but it only seems to happen when teleporting between biomes, respawning between biomes, or hypertubing yourself at lightspeed

[west jackal]

I dont like how the converters look on power grid

[deft sluice]

i think i'm going to spend a few days working on a massive power plant

[west jackal]

i love the converter animation

[worn oar]

Maybe you were just unlucky, run it back

[winged root]

Fair enough, thank you for informing me

[west jackal]

how massive? love massive

[storm zephyr]

why does the dune desert have so much iron??? 😭

[west jackal]

because you can make a lot of stuff with just iron

you can finish t4 with only iron i think?

[fluid sapphire]

its not unique in that, iron is plentiful everywhere

[storm zephyr]

ok but its got like half the iron nodes on the map from what i can tell

[west jackal]

once you get enough wire for a mam

[deft sluice]

uhh, probably gonna aim for 1200 or 1800 turbofuel/min

[west jackal]

lightwork 😉

just teasing! thats good though!

[deft sluice]

i'm not even sure how many batteries i'm gonna have to fill up just to start that kind of factory

[west jackal]

my small power plant is 1800 rf/min

my big boy plant is going to be like 1.9TW of power generated

(its only net like 1.2TW because itll burn around 700GW of power just to keep it running

[polar coral]

hallo evryone

[deft sluice]

yeah i haven't given much thought towards the scale yet

[worn oar]

My small power plant is 1560 compacted coal/minute. Haven't started turbofuel yet, just sunk the coke 😵‍💫

[deft sluice]

but i'm going to make it as big as possible

[dusk mirage]

Greetings.

[inner meteor]

i made my first aluminum factory but i dont know why its so hard for people? where is the struggle usually? i had no issues creating aluminum luckily

[west jackal]

where youg etting compacted coal from if youre not making tfuel

[lean fossil]

Ominous.

[fluid sapphire]

its the water

[deft sluice]

most peole struggle with water biproduct

[lean fossil]

I think the point is it's gonna piss you off sooner or later.

[inner meteor]

fair enough, i just ran it into some coal generators

[west jackal]

the issues are if you try and recycle waste water, some people dont know how to optimize the fluids

[lean fossil]

Noted.

[worn oar]

Dealing with the waste water, not backing up on silica or any of the fluids

[west jackal]

bad, you should be recycling the waste water

[lean fossil]

Dutily noted.

[fluid sapphire]

people want to plug it back into the system directly, i also directed it elsewhere entirely myself, that makes it super easy

[worn oar]

Coal and sulfur

[lean fossil]

VERY noted indeed.

[deft sluice]

I usually just find some limestone and make wet concrete with the waste water tbh

[west jackal]

if you dont want the hassle though, my go to is a pure recipe/wet concrete

[deft sluice]

but i've made some waste water loops

[fluid sapphire]

pure ingots

[lean fossil]

Also I have a normal fuel gen setup...should I js compactly coal it or nah.

[west jackal]

im processing all 12300 bauxite rn, it uses all the waste water

[lean fossil]

Aka make it a turbo fuel setup

[worn oar]

Wtf isn't that like 50k aluminum

[inner meteor]

i thought about that, but for me it has no point really, my water extracters do the work and i dont want to mess with loops and priority systems, running it into coal plants works fine 👍

[west jackal]

its fine so long as you remember to sink the aluminum output or else itll back up and then wont ever come back on properly

[simple locust]

hey can someone help me out with a nitrogen transport line? I need to transport a bunch of the gas half way across the map and Im not sure how I should do it

[west jackal]

no need for prioriy systems?

[lean fossil]

Overflow sink right?

[west jackal]

package it transport

[deft sluice]

drones

[west jackal]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

says who, all solutions are valid

[west jackal]

package and drone^

[west jackal]

dude i was just messing with them

[fluid sapphire]

fair enough

[lean fossil]

Drones actually gonna make me so happy when I get them

Are they faster than trucks?

[deft sluice]

yes

[simple locust]

should I do a large train line for it?

[fluid sapphire]

not over the top enough to easily tell

[vapid jasper]

are rotors used for anything beyond early game? or can i run my assembler into another assembler of smart platings to save space and effort?

[west jackal]

drones are faster, but only carry 9 stacks

[lean fossil]

Ahhhhh now I don't have to belt and train shit.

[west jackal]

i like trains :3

[lean fossil]

It's used in some things

[deft sluice]

Drones are great but they don't move a lot of resources at once

[inner meteor]

anyways i also finished my 10 p/m RCU factory, i fear i might have to upgrade it in the future

[west jackal]

absolutely used for the rest of the game

[lean fossil]

Always useful to have some rotors left behind

[west jackal]

motors are used religiously

plus you need rotors for a lot of stuff

[simple locust]

I was thinking that ngl, could you help me out with the specifics?

[west jackal]

like what?

[warm finch]

Oh really??? LOL!

[lean fossil]

Use blueprints

[west jackal]

how much nitrogen? how far? how many trains do you want to run?

id recommend using blueprints to make the trains neater/easier, but the way i did them was awful (they look very nice) but took hours

[warm finch]

right now we have more drones than trains 😭

[west jackal]

shut up!

[worn oar]

Yeah a lot of stuff, you'll need thousands

[west jackal]

that was your fault Deaf!

[vapid jasper]

so run into a storage then assembler of smart plating?

[simple locust]

1.250 a min, and im running it from the closest node to the canyon that seperates the forest from the desert

[worn oar]

And their big brother motors is also a bottleneck

[warm finch]

uh huh, mr. "it's too close for train"

[west jackal]

i mean thats up to you, you need rotors for building, so id recommend planning to store a certain ammount/min and then the rest can go to whatever you wanted

[west jackal]

they were like 100m!

[fluid sapphire]

as with anything else in this game, its more useful to have ongoing production rather than a storage box (better, have both)

[vapid jasper]

idek i think how im doing it is inefficient af but i have no idea how i would make it better

[worn oar]

If you don't have a box for overflow of each thing (and a bit extra production) I question your choices

[west jackal]

trying to visualize that distance, i will always recommend packaging nitrogen, it compresses it and then you can transport it on a freight train instead of messing with fluid mechanics on trains

[vapid jasper]

idk how to do that, i have my iron being max produced properly but for my reinforced plates and rotors its just a storage box going into the assembler

[simple locust]

how many trains would I need for this tho?

[west jackal]

realistically? 1 train with 2-3 cars should be pleny, i assume if youre doing nitrogen you have mk5 belts?

each item car can easily handle your max belt speed (just build a buffer)

and nitrogen compresses 4:1

[valid glacier]

Would this work to split 360 per min into 120 per min and 240 per min? (the belt at the bottom is 360 per min and the one to the left is the one that needs 120 per min and the middle one gets 240 per min) #screenshots message

[west jackal]

so if youre moving 1250, thats 312.5 packaged nitrogen/min

[west jackal]

just have 1 train with 2 cars, one bringing the nitrogen to the factory, and the other bringing the empty packages back to the packaging plant

alternatively, you could use drones, but most likely you will need 2 drones going each way because that is too close for drones to be super effective

[simple locust]

so just have the train bring back the empty cans?

[west jackal]

id absolutely recommend that

[simple locust]

im bringing the nitrogen from the top left to the bottem right (most recent immage in screenshots)

[west jackal]

nitrogen requires aluminum packaging so i dont like wasting the empty containers

you always CAN use drones, you could even use factory carts if you want

[stuck bough]

guys what to do when my dedicated server keeps crashing. save file is working just fine

[west jackal]

but id say trains would be best for that

[simple locust]

is it possible to put the cans back into the same cars or should I have a car at the end specificly for the cans

[west jackal]

not possible

or if it is, its a terrible idea

just have 2 cars on the train

1 for the packaged nitrogen the other for empty cans

[deft sluice]

Yes

[night wigeon]

Hey short question: when i select random nodes in 1.2 does that also change the amount of iron nodes overall or they are just swichting positions?

[deft sluice]

Just positions

[night wigeon]

Tyvm

[dusk mirage]

You could have 2 stations on each end? One empties and the other fills. Only issue would be if the system got clogged up.

[simple locust]

alr, last thing; do I use 1 rail or 2 rails

[west jackal]

i think its supposed to keep the ammoutns the same

[west jackal]

the best answer is always 2

if you have 1, you need to have overtake rails if you end up with more than 1 train on that rail

[dusk mirage]

overtake rails don't work cause train AI is lobotomized.

[west jackal]

i run tracks across the map and then hook stations into the central lines (so i have a 4 rails spanning the map) and this lets the train always drive on the right (or if youre weird, left) of the track

[west jackal]

didnt know that, thank you!

i havent tried monorails since the trains could just clip through each other

[simple locust]

I have closed cuircuts of rails for each group of items being transported

I dont wanna deal with the confusion of running cross map rails

[west jackal]

i personally dislike that, it ends up with more rails being built, but tahts fine

[dusk mirage]

Same, had to learn that the hard way a while back.

[west jackal]

tbh, youre moving low enough quantity over a short enough distance, you would be fine with a monorail and single train

but id never officially recommend that 😛

[simple locust]

ill run the double rail system

[shy fern]

im struggling with my rails currently, signals make my brain hurt with my rail design...

[misty hearth]

just study electrical engineering and come back to the game after a few years

jk jk

[shy fern]

yeah...thats what it feels like

[dusk mirage]

replace electrical engineering with factorio

[shy fern]

anyone that knows how this works able to maybe watch my stream and tell him what im doing wrong?

[misty hearth]

because it's lowkey what it is, it's abstract and not at all intuitive and you really just have to put in the hours and sit with your focused thoughts before you can reliably manage signals in even a small or medium sized network

[misty hearth]

factorio has a depressing lack of doggos

[dusk mirage]

You just need more time in it and the spitters will look more and more like doggos by the minute.

[west jackal]

signals are pretty easy?

block makes a block.. path lets train reserve a path through

unless youre doing high throughput intersections, blocks are all you need

[shy fern]

yeah, sounds easy...but its not xD

[storm zephyr]

the phase 3 parts actually dont look too bad

[dusk mirage]

And intersections are easy as well, path on the input, block on the output.

[west jackal]

it is pretty easy... whats going on?

[shy fern]

bunch of train wrecks

[west jackal]

only main issue is if you try and place the signals where the track splits, it can have "looping" issue

[fluid sapphire]

#1038092680493801533

[west jackal]

can you provide screenshots or something?

i have only ever had one train wreck and that was because i was driving the second one xd

[shy fern]

im gonna try again, i just blew up all the signals to start over

[west jackal]

e.e okay

[dusk mirage]

good thing the game doesn't nudge you to place them there by snapping or anything.

[storm zephyr]

so how exactly does truck automation work? like is there a path i can make them follow

[dusk mirage]

build a path and set them to go on it like trains.

[west jackal]

exactly...

[west jackal]

you drive the path if youre in pre 1.2, if youre in 1.2 then you place the path like trains

[cold berry]

Path yeah, but make sure they have turn around room and one going one way, one going the other

Oh I never messed with them before

[storm zephyr]

oh i drive the path? neat

[cold berry]

I didn't know it was different even

[storm zephyr]

so can i have a bunch of trucks driving the same route or no

[cold berry]

Yes

[dusk mirage]

1.2 just nukes the old system and turns trucks into trains where you can't controll where the signals go.

[cold berry]

Spicy

[storm zephyr]

hwo do i leave truck

[cold berry]

🔥🔥🥵

[storm zephyr]

oh E

[orchid dagger]

how do you remove a material without dismantling it

[west jackal]

you save the path and then can load it in other vehicles (including factory carts 😉 )

[deft sluice]

remove? what do you mean

[orchid dagger]

to go back to the default foundation

[dusk mirage]

nobelisks

[dusk mirage]

I think you can use the customizer for that?

[orchid dagger]

there's no option for the default one

[west jackal]

yeah just select the standard foundation material

its just called ficsit foundation...

[orchid dagger]

there is none

[dusk mirage]

It ain't on the list ...

Just checked.

That's a nice small oversight from the devs?

[storm zephyr]

how do i put fuel in the truck

[orchid dagger]

the back

[storm zephyr]

how do i make it move then

[orchid dagger]

put fuel in it and hop in

[storm zephyr]

ah i put it in the container

[west jackal]

its on my list? tf?

are you in 1.2?

[orchid dagger]

yes

[dusk mirage]

Yeah

[west jackal]

that.. may be a bug then

its there in 1.1

[dusk mirage]

In the customizer material tab?

[west jackal]

yea

[dusk mirage]

All the more reason to love our oh to experimental 1.2 fork.

[storm zephyr]

maybe trucks arent for me cause im a really shitty driver

[dusk mirage]

Go to experimental and you can just build the paths for those trucks.

[worn oar]

I mean one box after the output (only one per item, not one per machine) so you can steal from your machines and not have to hand craft building parts

[worn oar]

Yeah but you overcomplicated it. Mk2 belt for the 120, whatever for the other one. Game enforces the limit.

[valid glacier]

ok how can i split 120 items per minute into 67.5 items per minute and 52.5 items per minute?

[storm zephyr]

smart splitter

[wheat knoll]

yo anyone w

[valid glacier]

i havent got that how do i unlock it

[wheat knoll]

i want to start a new game with someone

[fluid sapphire]

Regular splitter

[storm zephyr]

yeah that too probably

[wheat knoll]

is there any french ppl that want to play ?

[storm zephyr]

good chance it doesnt need to be exact

[west jackal]

with manifold you can jsut use normal splitter

[fluid sapphire]

Machines take what they need, the rest keeps moving, hook stuff up and it will self-balance

[worn oar]

I would say DON'T. Just split two ways. When the buffer stack inside the machines fill up they will automatically fix the problem themselves.

[storm zephyr]

priority mergers are pretty cool ngl

[spare prism]

Well if you don’t have smart spliter set the one constructior to set value and all remaining resources will go into the other machine once the first one fills up

[fluid sapphire]

Smart splitters are useless here

Only changes the order of the buffer fill

[valid glacier]

#screenshots message im trying to do this

[dusk mirage]

just split it in two and then split the other line 3 times in a row merging one side a daisychaining the other and on the last one maerge the 7,5 it splits into the other line.

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[dusk mirage]

If it needs to be exact.

[fluid sapphire]

It doesn't

[west jackal]

only thing that is even worth ever doing load balancing is like nuclear, and even then its like.. eh

[fluid sapphire]

Unloading trains too

[storm zephyr]

honestly should i use trains or trucks for this #screenshots message

[valid glacier]

well im following satisfactory tools so i think it has to be exact?

[fluid sapphire]

it doesnt

[valid glacier]

oh ok

[storm zephyr]

copied the message id instead of the link on accident

[worn oar]

I think you missed the point. Two smelters can feed into two iron plate constructors since it's a perfect ratio, the other two should be fed to the other four machines using a splitter so that the internal buffer stack lets the machine balance itself without balancing the inputs.

[fluid sapphire]

do you have mk2 belts

[valid glacier]

i have mk3

[fluid sapphire]

even better

just manifold it

[west jackal]

wdym?

[valid glacier]

ok ill try that and send a screenshot

[west jackal]

load balancing is pointless for trains...? just have double belts going into isc buffer then outputting (ideally 1 belt max) but up to around 75% of best belt*2

[fluid sapphire]

not when you have 8 platforms and need to feed 10 machines, for example

[west jackal]

oh i just use priority mergers 🤡

it may not be the best solution, but whatever

[dusk mirage]

what is an industrial storage in front of a train station if not buffered load balancing?

[fluid sapphire]

would not work for me

i need exact ratios

[west jackal]

technically ig its buffered laod balancing? but not in the way we were discussing, load balancing is splitting a belt that is 50.4/min into 120 generators lol

[west jackal]

wdym

[dusk mirage]

do you even need to ask? he's clearly insane.

[worn oar]

I don't need a screenshot, just take a moment and think about the logical layout of a production line because this problem will pop up with literally everything you build that has more than two steps.

If you need a whole machine amount of an input and a fraction amount of any of the following machines, a splitter is almost always the way to solve that problem. The fractional machines start out taking half the output, then once the one using less fills its buffer stack the other will take more than half. The game will do the balancing for you.

[west jackal]

we will use my aluminum for example. I have 2070 coming in from my bauxite processing for fmf, its 3 600 belts and 1 at 270, they have smart splitters and priority mergers setup so that all belts ALWAYS are at the correct speed and all machines stay full. technically its a manifold though

[normal orbit]

8 belts to 10 manifolds wouldnt be hard with some overflow splitters on 4 belts merging onto a 5th, and just make it twice

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys is there a way for fixing scanner and radar not show already taken hard drives as still valid targets?

[west jackal]

that too

[worn oar]

Is there any point to this besides making your power graph less spiky?

Well I guess with bauxite you have to get rid of the silica but other than that

[dense violet]

I mean it's very easy to keep manifolds filled w/o pmergs, no idea why they are there

[valid glacier]

so i have to split 4 smelters into 5.75 constructors. (2.25 and 3.5) is it easier to just merge all the smelters outputs into one belt and manifold it across all 5.75 constructors? or do i just do what you said

[fluid sapphire]

idk man, it didnt work without balancing it, i had a manifold type system, the machines earlier in the manifold kept eating most of the coal, my train seemed to sit too long, and the resource at the source started getting sinked

#screenshots message

yet now it works perfectly

explain that atheists

[worn oar]

Yes. (both are fine, up to your belt speed limit)

[west jackal]

power grid should NEVER be spiky

[valid glacier]

i have mk3 belts so that will work thank you

[west jackal]

and i do that because i need 2070 aluminum ingots for 77.5 fmf/min

[dense violet]

once again, yes, a manifold works here, works essentially everywhere, you don't need to keep asking 🙂

[valid glacier]

okay i just need confirmation from the pros

[normal orbit]

power graph should be a smooth line, if its not you have some issue with the power production

[wheat knoll]

is there any french ?

[dense violet]

a manifold works everywhere

[west jackal]

now, the consumption isnt always smooth once you hit particle accelerators, but it should otherwise be smooth

t9 items also make weird consumption graphs

[worn oar]

I'm really not concerned about a 0.1-2% variance in my power production. But I meant consumption.

[normal orbit]

consumption dont really matter

as long production is higher

[worn oar]

Yeah

[cosmic brook]

Any tips on how to rotate foundations smoothly?

[worn oar]

Dylan is worried about consumption rate and I don't see why it matters unless you're blowing a fuse

[dense violet]

hold ctrol while spinngin
or try to build on top of another object, sometimes barriers or beams allow smooth spinning

[normal orbit]

hold ctrl for 5 degree rotation

[worn oar]

I assume it's so you can prioritize using what is already in your factory instead of imports but I don't use them either

[cosmic brook]

i tried using catwalks but it doesnt let me rotate it

[west jackal]

well uh.. spiky means you messed up somewhere in production of the power and usually are much more than .1-2%

[cosmic brook]

doesnt work :|

[west jackal]

im not worried about consumption? i said production should never be spiky

[dense violet]

just about anything like tha tcan be done wit ha smart splitter

[normal orbit]

hold ctrl and mouse wheel to rotate

[dense violet]

spin it on top of an existing foundation

[cosmic brook]

yea i know but it doesnt work

[worn oar]

I have a continual variance between 10-130MW in power production on my 21 GW network using only coal, compacted coal, fuel, petroleum coke, with backup solid and liquid biofuel. I tried troubleshooting it but at some point it just doesn't matter and I ignore it..

[dense violet]

or on top of a beam/barrier

[normal orbit]

it absolutely works

[cosmic brook]

it rotates the thing 90 degrees aka not useful 😭

[dense violet]

post what you're trying to do in #design-and-architecture

[normal orbit]

then you're not holding ctrl

[cosmic brook]

i am

[hasty mango]

when you load a blueprint inside the designer, how do you get rid of the designer itself cause it says "cannot dismantle with building inside"

[cosmic brook]

i even changed the crouch button to a different keybind to see if it helped but it didnt

[worn oar]

Could use it to force the output silica from aluminum to be used first

[vapid jasper]

i printed 3 coupons yesterday from the sink and i was never able to find them, anyone know where they couldve gone?

[worn oar]

In your inventory

[vapid jasper]

they arent

[worn oar]

Did you pull them out of the sink?

[dense violet]

put exactly what you need onto the belt in the first place. You have fully control of that with clocking

[vapid jasper]

yeah

[worn oar]

Checked for chest on the ground?

[dense violet]

show how you're trying to do it in #design-and-architecture a channel for tha where you can put images

[cosmic brook]

okok

[west jackal]

10-130 is very weird numbers to be dropping out unless you have something wildly underclocked

[worn oar]

Yeah I gave up trying to figure it out

My guess is that I accidentally dragged a slider on a coal or fuel generator somewhere

[cosmic brook]

ive sent it

[fluid sapphire]

trains braking?

[worn oar]

I don't have any trains set up yet

Actually I don't even have trucks lol it's all belts

[wise junco]

Hewwo

[worn oar]

It didn't sink in just how much iron the desert gives you until I unlocked the hoverpack. It's crazy

[ornate saffron]

an ocean to make it ppure too

[winged root]

Council what is most optimal the sloppy or pure aluminium recipe

[west jackal]

yessssir

[west jackal]

optimal? in what sense?

i use sloppy electrode pure, its 1:1 Bauxite to ingots

doesnt need silica, just pet coke bauxite and water

[winged root]

Reducing requirement for rarer nodes while still optimising production

[west jackal]

i mean, tbh aluminum is kinda limiting in my world atm, i needed a lot for nuclear

but, sulfur (and sam) are biggest limiters, so not doing the instant scrap alt saved a lot

[winged root]

I see

I’ll build the factory towards sloppy then and see later if I should rebuild

[ornate saffron]

sloppy turn 600 bauxite into 720 ingots i think if you use no other alts in the chain

[west jackal]

yes. but with pure (to remove needing silica) its lower

(and electrode scrap alt)

its 3 alts that i said

[ornate saffron]

yup

[storm zephyr]

why wontit let me load cargo into the truck

[ornate saffron]

is the truck station powered

[storm zephyr]

yeah

[sharp viper]

I have 500 hours on this game and I'm not past tier 8 is that bad?

[ornate saffron]

thats fine, no race

[storm zephyr]

its just not working

[west jackal]

is it set to load...

[fluid sapphire]

no, you're fine, i am at 1200 hours and i just finished phase 4 xd

[storm zephyr]

yeah

[sharp viper]

I unlocked the blender like 50 hours ago and I still dont know what it does 😭

I keep trying to make all my factories look good

[ornate saffron]

it blends parts, like oal and sulfer to make rocket fuel

[ornate saffron]

or Nitrogen Alum and HMF to make Fused frames

[wise junco]

B l e n d. C o n s u m e

[ornate saffron]

Bananas with soda and strawberries

a little yogurt

mmmmmm

[sharp viper]

Is there a command to set the gametime to night?

Or change how long daytime is?

I dont like how days are like 1.5 hours and night is like 15 minutes

[fluid sapphire]

whats not to like

[tranquil bolt]

Why would you want a long night lol

[real shale]

Welcome to being on an alien planet with a different day/night cycle :P

[wise junco]

Because daytime sucks

[real shale]

Daytime is great 🍌

[fluid sapphire]

building in the dark sucks

[ornate saffron]

I use the mod skyui. Im still recovering from eye surgery. Having it day all the time helps reduce strain

[wise junco]

Hope your eye(s) is doing well friend

[sharp viper]

Is that useable on the new experimental mode?

Also hope ur eyes get better

[ornate saffron]

Ya no mods for 1.2

Eyes are fine. It was corrective surgery. Healing will take 6months thats all

[wise junco]

Oof

[hasty mango]

#screenshots message anyone

[wise junco]

Cannot

[hasty mango]

bruh

[wise junco]

Might be a mod out there but not in the vanilla game

Paths going in, blocks going out of the intersection @royal mortar

[winged root]

I just noticed how crazy the entry range is to vehicles, I tried to open a crate 50 m away from one and got into it😂

[viral egret]

#screenshots message oh cool

[ornate saffron]

Looks like a toy I had growing up

[dusk mirage]

go stand under it and maybe Dio will apear with the rest of the road roller

[royal mortar]

i did that

and yet it says "Signal loops into itself"

[dusk mirage]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1489711426410123384

move those signals a bit backwards, weird bug

[royal mortar]

i already rebuild the entire intersection, twice. also reloaded the game 🙁

#screenshots message

[dusk mirage]

And the signals for the intersection are not at the point where the track splits?

[royal mortar]

they should be

[dusk mirage]

wrong direction, now the signals are after the track splits

they should be away from the intersection and after the sign with the arrow that indicates a track split

[royal mortar]

that's where the signal snaps in, where else could i place it?

[dusk mirage]

a meter or so past the snap point

[royal mortar]

#screenshots message

[hasty mango]

principal difference between path and block signals? not being able to understand them

[hasty mango]

cool headache you got there

[royal mortar]

is it possible that those 2 t junctions are too close together?

[winged root]

Right lads I’m at an impasse got an alternate of silicon circuit board orrrrr 6 inventory slots

[dusk mirage]

Mercer spheres made inventory not that important, least that's my opinion

[winged root]

Logical

[wise junco]

not sure if someone already answered, but move them a tick out from the actual points where the tracks meet. probably the signal bug

[raven finch]

The amount of times I've casually fall damage clutched via tractor is ridiculous lol

[umbral pulsar]

hey all, started doing oil and theres some crude "nodes" which i cant place an extractor on. they look like they have explodable rocks around the node, how do i extract the crude?

[next ivy]

by exploding the rocks ?

[dusk mirage]

can you find those nodes by scanning?

[umbral pulsar]

i cannot

i take it i havent unlocked somethingf

[dusk mirage]

Those nodes are used in later step of the game, with another extraction method

[next ivy]

you acn not scan for them
or you can not find them via scanning ?

[umbral pulsar]

ah i see, do you by chance know when i unlock it?

[wise junco]

tier 8, i believe

[umbral pulsar]

i see, you both have been very helpful, thankyou!!!!

[wise junco]

any time!

[royal mortar]

giving up ...

[wise junco]

@royal mortar did you see my above message

[tawny tusk]

what are my odds of loading satifactory on a virtual machine (im on macbook)

[royal mortar]

yes, but i have no idea how to do that. how can i move the signal a "tick"? confused

[wise junco]

by tick i mean just going past where they are. put them where the tracks aren't joining

if you put them exactly on the joining point it can bug out

[royal mortar]

great

[unkempt blade]

I would think you could get it run somehow but I also probably wouldn't expect it to run great

[tawny tusk]

i was running shapez and it was lagging

not shapez 2 like the original shapez

[unkempt blade]

yeah you're probably in for a bad time even if you get it sort-of running then

[dusk mirage]

If you are going to try then do tell us how pretty the slideshow was.

[feral vector]

anyone know why my rifle isn't loading homing ammo?

pretty sure I'm doing something dumb lol

[tawny tusk]

whats some factory game that is easy to run

i highly doubt 3d is gonna be possible

[dusk mirage]

How much ammo is loaded into it?

[west jackal]

holy frick, quantum encoder at 250% and slooped draws 26 GW

[feral vector]

none, the icon in the bottom left shows the normal rifle ammo at 0 / 15

[wise junco]

hold R

[unkempt blade]

factorio should run on osx but I'd check their system recommendations

[feral vector]

I thought it might be like jetpacks where you gotta set a fuel type but I don't see anything like that

[tawny tusk]

but I heard factorio wasnt very beginner friendly

[feral vector]

I got 500 homing ammo in inventory and rifle won't reload

[dusk mirage]

Yeah, hold R for a menu to pick the ammo

[wise junco]

@feral vector hold R while wielding it

[feral vector]

well how tf do I do that on a controller lol

[valid glacier]

wow, i cant play satisfactory anymore because of my shitty PC

[wise junco]

hold whatever your reload button is

[feral vector]

I found it, had to hold down on the dpad

[unkempt blade]

there's a little more pressure on the player (hostile enemies getting stronger) unlike satisfactory or shapez but otherwise it's just a factory game 🤷‍♂️

[feral vector]

reload is X heh

[west jackal]

also nodes running out.. right?

[worn oar]

They aren't nodes, they're fields of ore. But yes.

[west jackal]

ew, why are you p[laying with a controller

[feral vector]

can always just turn them down or off if you wanna learn more easily

[tawny tusk]

can't u like turn off the enemies

[winged root]

Can’t at that lvl, believe it’s a later tier upgrade

[unkempt blade]

yeah but you can adjust those if you don't like them

[feral vector]

because my body is fucked up and I can't sit using a mouse and keyboard for as long

[dusk mirage]

Yes, but what would you target with your artillery systems then?

[unkempt blade]

maybe, I haven't done a save in a while 😆

[tawny tusk]

i have no clue what that is as i have never played before

[valid glacier]

can i change from vulkan to directX12 without opening the game because vulkan is doing something and everytime i open satisfactory it crashes straight away

[tawny tusk]

if there isnt theres prob a mod to do it

[dusk mirage]

It's a lasers guided "turn that into a crater" thingy.

[unkempt blade]

but anyway, that's the only other factory game I know of offhand that would run on mac without jumping through hoops

[royal mortar]

i removed the 4 signals between the 2 t-sections. now it's working. i think they might be to close together. now they should be treated as one big intersection

[wise junco]

awesome. basically if youre holding a signal and the colors on both sides of a signal aren't different, the bug probably happened

[dusk mirage]

But you can turn down the enemy size and how much they gain streenght over time a bit for your first runs to get time to slowly learn the game

[tawny tusk]

Would you recommend it to a new player?

[unkempt blade]

if you're on steam you can go into the properties menu for satis and add the engine you want to start with under launch options

[wise junco]

i eated all the factory carts

[valid glacier]

its just a box that i have to type into

[dusk mirage]

Factorio, yes. Artillery in factorio? You're going to love it if you make it that far.

[tawny tusk]

Make is that far? Alright, ill give it a try tommorow

[unkempt blade]

yep it is you use -dx11 -dx12 or -vulkan

[wise junco]

I need to try factorio at some point tbh

[dusk mirage]

I tried avoiding factorio cause I had to go to uni, maybe it's time to get back to it.

[royal mortar]

you get that from vulcanus, i think

[valid glacier]

thank you its fixed now

[unkempt blade]

you just need to convince your friends to play too so it counts as a social activity

[tawny tusk]

ok

[wise junco]

friends?

[dusk mirage]

I just need some cash to gift them the game, then they can't refuse as I know where they live.

[unkempt blade]

the people you use social engineering to convince to make satellite bases to gather resources for you

[wise junco]

OH those

[feral vector]

damn I might actually need to automate some ammo soon, homing rifle chews through it

[wise junco]

rifle ammo goes pretty quick but it automates quick too

[ornate saffron]

Ya, you tend to use a lot of rifle ammo.

I stick to scatter shot

[wise junco]

still part of the explosive rebar gang 8-)

[unkempt blade]

harder for freedom from ammo manufacturing

[feral vector]

scatter shot?

[dusk mirage]

I just go with nobelisks for everything, only problem comes when a hog with one planted on its head goes to an important plant for a mexican standoff.

[brittle dune]

shatter rebar

[feral vector]

ah cool I gotta try that too then

[wise junco]

regular rebar isn't awful, but the specialized rebar variants are where the rebar gun really shines

[ornate saffron]

Shatter rebar sorry. Its like buckshot.

[brittle dune]

What I love doing with nobelisks is plant a cluster nobelisk right where I'm standing as a spider is jumping onto me

If I get a perfect hit it's an instant kill

Initial explosion + 5 extra explosives right into them

[wise junco]

i might have aggression turned off cuz i got tired of changing my pants every time big spiders jumped at me

[ornate saffron]

I slide into the fuanas model and fire

[brittle dune]

As they explode upward

[dusk mirage]

I just arm my friend with nukes, don't even need perfect hit to kill both the spider and me.

[brittle dune]

I think even the giant green ones die instantly to a perfect hit

[feral vector]

the jumping spiders are awesome lol actually gotta lock in a bit

[viral egret]

so, realistically speaking, i'm in phase 2, what do i need a LOT of for building and stuff...

• Iron plates
• Iron rod
• screws
• wire
• cable
  fuck that's a lot of stuff i need like 3 iron nodes and 2 copper nodes... okay fine

[feral vector]

I do so much exploring from sky bridges though I'm a cheap ass

[ornate saffron]

You'll need some of all that but screws for personal use

[dusk mirage]

yeah, it spawns what, 5 clusters? and each of those do 60 damage. So it about 300 damage on its belly.

[feral vector]

well at least last time I explored... already had my train running there so I just followed it with the object scanner

[unkempt blade]

screws don't get used much for building but they're in all the best recipes

[feral vector]

automate one full machine of everything, send it to storage, send the overflow to an awesome sink using a smart splitter

[brittle dune]

It's soooo satisfying to get a perfect hit on them as they land on your former position

[viral egret]

okay so i can sort of ignore screws for the time being, i'm planning out stuff like wires, fundations and other BULK materials

[dusk mirage]

Don't forget reinforced plates and rotors you use to build machines with

[wise junco]

this guy is getting it

[brittle dune]

I love the combat in this game

[unkempt blade]

yeah maybe stick a stack or two in storage for making equipment and then don't worry about them outside of production chains

[viral egret]

yeah but i need to build like 10 or so of them before i can automise them, while fundations and cables i need hundreds

[feral vector]

it was a huge pain in the ass refactoring my starter factory to send stuff to a storage area and sort it but it's so nice having infinite supplies of all the building materials and passive sink points

[viral egret]

okay i'll do that then