satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

I'm okay with this. Satisfactory is one of the better optimized games. So many games are unplayable for midrange hardware

[paper current]

Is the space elevator important

[timid rune]

it is the major part of the game's progression

[wispy osprey]

Basic progression, yes

Endgame, no

[ornate saffron]

only if you want to progress through the games tech tree

[minor rock]

we should be able to see grass beyond 3 character models of length on Ultra. xD

[paper current]

So I should complete the first phase of it

[wispy osprey]

You should complete them when you can

[minor rock]

im sure its not hard to force it, b ut still

[timid rune]

go through the tutorial, learn the basics with ADA's guidance

[wispy osprey]

Unlocking more stuff to get at camp is good

[elfin smelt]

space elevator is the default main goal of the game so yes

[timid rune]

and start working towards automating ore processing and power generation

[elfin smelt]

it's not just important, it's paramount

[paper current]

563 iron is a lot

[timid rune]

well... that's why it is paramount to progress towards automating iron and coal power generation

the requirement is there so you are forced to research to automate your production

[wispy osprey]

Should I just do all pures or go overkill with it

All pures, extra crafted parts from machines, less energy consumption...

Man 1.2 is gonna be really really good

[paper current]

Is there any way to mine iron faster early game

[timid rune]

the only concern with 100 warp drive/min run is the amount of lag with that many machines

[minor rock]

turn on cheat engine speed hack :brain :

and mine it manually, beat mk3 in record time

[timid rune]

I really recommend you to go through the tutorial with ADA's guidance

[paper current]

How do I start it

[dense violet]

your compure will catch fire before you can use the base resources in a normal map, pure nodes doesn't really get you anything

[minor rock]

start a new game and dont click skip the tutorial :p

[paper current]

I didn’t click that though

[timid rune]

you might have to start a new save and don't skip tutorial

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message any1 got ideas for how to put away the residue with it looking cute

[timid rune]

and then you follow ADA's instructions

[paper current]

But I’m already 6 hours of gameplay in

[lean fossil]

Ada is the goat

[lean fossil]

Watchu unlocked.

[minor rock]

you can play the tutorial and switch back , its not a huge deal

its oddy ou never got it though

[paper current]

Oh good point

I think I did get it but just not pay attention

[wispy osprey]

The entire point of the game is that there is no real "point"

It'll still be fun to try different ideas

[fiery pewter]

hey there

how easy to get dedicated server

[minor rock]

very

[dense violet]

yes. But what I'm sayign is there's no effective difference between pure nodes and regular map, since you can't use all those extra resources

[fiery pewter]

nice

[dense violet]

it does not increase the 'go big' aspect of the game

[wispy osprey]

Fair

You can't make use of bauxite for 75% of the game

[timid rune]

a lot of the fun in Satisfactory IMHO comes from vanity builds post space elevator

[wispy osprey]

You don't have to leave space elevator up after its built, right? The space station itself stays there

[timid rune]

yeah you can bring it down

[lean fossil]

chat gcmon any idea

[timid rune]

pretty sure I don't have mine up anymore in the current run

[timid rune]

do you have residue to rubber or plastic unlocked?

[lean fossil]

I'm doin all 3 of em

I js dont know EXACTLY how to belt them

[timid rune]

time to maths!

[lean fossil]

Cause ion want it to look messy

[timid rune]

also you can use straight mode of belt placement 🙂

[lean fossil]

oke

illl try to keep the refineries away

[ornate saffron]

more splitters into slower belts going everywhere making your factory look like a 3 y/o tried to wrap it in ribbons

[lean fossil]

cause i plan to espand the generators

I need a mk4 belt REAONREAH

[hard wolf]

how do I determine train throughput? (i.e. trying to move 3600 iron/m)

[lean fossil]

480 god damn residue

[lean fossil]

throughput?

[ornate saffron]

one train, four freight cars. split it evenly across all four frieght platforms. If you need more throughput, add a second train

[paper current]

Finally phase 1

[dense violet]

what's your belt speed?

[hard wolf]

is there like a resource/m number for freight cars or is that just to simplify it?

[hard wolf]

480 at the moment, but I'll be upgrading soon

[dense violet]

it depends on stack size and return time for the train

[ornate saffron]

that is a simplification.

if you want the hard math the wiki has your back

[dense violet]

you can usually depend on 1 belt per car, but that changes with mk6 belts

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Train+throughput

[hard wolf]

thank you

[latent gate]

Quick question, cobalt

[paper current]

OH MY GOD IF I PRESS Q I CAN MAKE MORE THINGS

[red dew]

Is making 900 m cubes of rocket fuel a minute good

[proven snow]

😂

[proven snow]

Progress!

[paper current]

Now I can make miners

[latent gate]

We talked about nuclear pre beacon removal, and at the time the spire coast delta was the spot to do it

That still true?

[dense violet]

still fairly true, they've removed a few nodes so you have to bring a little in but it's very convenient to make uranium rods.
just drone them to the ocean to burn after

although the mk6 belts means more options open up as pure nodes output more now

[rough shore]

why did no one tell me u can have more than 1 hotbar

[ornate saffron]

alt plus scroll wheel for ten ^_^

[rough shore]

yeah well ur telling me after i discovered it

i genuinely thought that 1 beside the hotbar was a level or something

is there a way to put items with colors in the hotbar? like 2 concrete foundations but for different colors

[proven snow]

I know you can but I rarely use it

[rough shore]

thanks mr 🐌

[ornate saffron]

not sure. but you can put color swashes

[rough shore]

ooooooo

[south lion]

for jetpack fuel do u gotta have it in inventory or can it be in dimensional depot?

[rough shore]

ive never used a jetpack but my wisdom says inventory is a must

[ornate saffron]

gotta be in inventory

[south lion]

dang alright

[ornate saffron]

that being said it will switch to any fuel in your inventory when your prefered runs dry.

[south lion]

yeah ik that

[rough shore]

did u really know that tho?

[ornate saffron]

As @rough shore has expressed somethings allude attention. Just sharing info that is relavent

I like having a hot bar for fluids and a Hotbar for trains

[lean fossil]

how do you"activate" the somersloop

[white dawn]

You need to research a thing in your MAM to be able to use them in machines, if that's what you mean

[south lion]

yes?

[rough shore]

alr nice

[south lion]

not hard to figure out

[lean fossil]

I CAN use it but uh I put in a yellow powerslug and now i got 2 instead of 4.

[white dawn]

Ah, the first cycle through, the machine will use the pre-slooped settings

[rough shore]

thats how somers and sloops and slugs work

[white dawn]

The next one you send through should double properly

[lean fossil]

I SHOULDVE knew that.

[sleek verge]

is there a discord where i can justt chill with othrs while playing statisfacory

[rough shore]

ok im not very smart ive read that i got 4 instead 2

[white dawn]

It's basically because the production cycle has technically already started, so it uses the "previous" settings. You can see the same thing with clock settings and such; your changes don't actually apply until the next cycle

[ornate saffron]

you research it in the MaM after you do enough research you can || place them into machines to double output at teh cost of power for no additional resources, or make a Alien Power Augementor which gives you 500MW of power plus 10% of your grid as a bonus||

[paper current]

What am I meant to do while I wait for smart platings to finish

[dense violet]

explore, build more factories, research the MAM

[ornate saffron]

explore, build more

[dense violet]

btw, if you hold E while building an object it'll bring up a radial menu of similar objects
really compreses your hotbars

[rough shore]

that ik but i just forget everytime and instead press e until i get it and then press one more e by accident and have to redo the loop

[dense violet]

you can also right click within the menu to swap textures if the objects have dif skins

[rough shore]

that i didnt know

thanks for the additional useful and brilliant knowledge CobaltOfDoom-Talk Circles To me

[paper current]

More implies I've built stuff

[void cliff]

Using multiple hot bars helps a ton on gamepad, as the build menu is a little clunky on gamepad

[ornate saffron]

sure does. it is a automation game

[white dawn]

@long patio (re: #screenshots message ) - That's an April 1 easter egg. That's a creature from Sanctum, one of CSS's earlier games

[rough shore]

its called a walker no?

[white dawn]

You'll likely notice a few other things like that if you're playing on a session started while your system's clock is on April 1

(I believe you can turn that stuff off with the "disable seasonal events" setting from the game's main menu, if you don't want 'em there)

[paper current]

A fuse just blew what do I do

[dense violet]

fix it.
probably build more power

[paper current]

How do I fix it

[hard wolf]

there's a big lever if you press e on a power pole or generator. if that doesn't work do what cobalt said

[dense violet]

what's your power source right now?

[paper current]

The hub

[dense violet]

ok either you went over your power limit or you ran out of biofuel

[white dawn]

That happens when your machines require more power than your generators are generating. That's generally either due to overbuilding, or if on biomass, because one of your bio burners ran out of fuel

[paper current]

It is empty

[dense violet]

flick on a power pole

[long patio]

lol, it's midnight where I am so didn't even notice, thanks for the heads up

[dense violet]

better get more 😉
turn leaves to bio mass, turn biomass to solid biomass, it'll burn longer

[paper current]

I havent unlocked solid biomass yet

[rough shore]

yeah no problem cuz ive obviously done all the work of telling u what it is

[dense violet]

get more leaves then 🙂

[paper current]

Ill just cope without power for a while

[rough shore]

gotta get chainsaws asap

[dense violet]

go and punch like... 10,000 leaves. Sprint and hold E. Will take a few minutes but you'll have enough power to get past the phase

you'll regret not automating things

[paper current]

I want to automate its just expensive

[white dawn]

Wood lasts longer than leaves, btw. Can also process alien remains into a lot of biomass

But yeah, it helps to prioritize unlocking the chainsaw/soild-biomass

[dense violet]

it's just leaves and wood

[white dawn]

Soild Biomass gives you the best "bang for your buck" for power. Though if you don't have Solid yet, you can still make things last longer by processing into just plain ol' Biomass before burning it

[paper current]

I'm mining iron though

[dense violet]

have you unlocked powered miners?

[paper current]

Yes

I'm just broke

[dense violet]

I mean hand forge a few things, but power a powered miner after

[paper current]

Once I can afford it

[rough shore]

use more biomass burners the ones on the hub arent enough

ok wait are we talking resource epensive or power expensive

woaaaah u can color belts

[knotty bear]

I finally made a 4x4 belt blueprint I'm going to bring every ore node on the map to one spot whats the best place to make a factory

[rough shore]

every ore node is a little tiny bit overkill i feel like

just a feeling

[white dawn]

If you insist on doing that, the location really doesn't matter; you'll have a ton of logistics no matter where you go. Just pick somewhere nice that you'd like to build in

[dense violet]

1. your computer will catch fire before you can process them all
2. if you're moving everything anyway, build where ever you want

[white dawn]

Though fair warning: your plans are a lot more difficult/impractical than you might think

[ornate saffron]

I think ive said this to you B4, but NOT doing that is ideal.

If you insist on it i suggest near water, oil, and nitrogen so you dont need to ship as much fluids, The spire coast fits this

[dense violet]

also, 3. there's basically never any 'best' in this game unless you're really specific what qualities you're looking for

[knotty bear]

Flat/easy to build land is my main critera if I'm shipping everything.

[rough shore]

i feel like the best is only if it fits a design ur visioning other than just pick space major space

like humungous gigantic space

[dense violet]

you can build vertically in multiple floors - infinite flat space everywhere

[knotty bear]

The coast far left of the map with the beach and stuff?

And you haven't said that before.

[ornate saffron]

spire coast is the north coast that is not the desert.

westr coast has all these options and so does the Blue Crater (south east corner of map)

[knotty bear]

Yeah I'm currently near the West coast and I think it wouldn't be terrible to just extend my current base upward and outward.

[hearty flame]

im feeling kinda stupid, but how tf do you pull up the to do list when its not appearing

[spare prism]

how much power hypertubes use

[normal orbit]

build one and find out?

[hearty flame]

you just need the entrances, so just 10mw

[spare prism]

thanks im trying to see whats hogging all my power lol

[hearty flame]

lol, whatve you got running?

[lost cloak]

can i disable snapping totally? Like, if place a foundation on another foundation, and hold CTRL, i get a smaller snap grid. But can i make it not snap at all as if i placed it on terrain?

[cedar token]

it feels so good to have 600 power capacity

(triple what i need rn)

[hearty flame]

i remember when i only needed that little power

[cedar token]

it might just last me through phase 2

[cedar token]

[hearty flame]

everything i have rn, if it were running would all need abt 5k
its steady at abt 2k atm
im making about 3.5k

[spare prism]

a lot rn, iron plates, iron rods, screws, copper rotors, quickwire, coppeer sheets, wire, cable, stitched iron plates, steel beams and pipes

[lost cloak]

or snap to belts, i cant even snap stuff to belts

[hearty flame]

mergers and splitters snap to belts, im not sure what else does tho

[unkempt blade]

I'd brace yourself to probably 5x that at minimum over phase 2 unless you're willing to keep your production of stuff pretty low

[lost cloak]

they cant be placed on most "curved" belts tho, even if i could snap foundations to them

which i cant

i wish we could do roads the same way we do belts, with curves. its impossible to place good looking foundations as roads on curved surfaces

[spare prism]

fiscit disapproves, you must work at max efficiency

[white dawn]

Some frequently-linked-to videos about building curves, btw. You can actually get quite good results in vanilla:

Wan 3.0: https://youtu.be/8Jxfy2_Iw6U
Wan Curve: https://youtu.be/i5qnl0PzkXE
Any-size Circles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3ZM4Zzhqs
KyloBuilds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwyyYpe0c4
Foundations following rails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V0fQPq3Xo

[paper current]

Why does stage 2 require so many more materials

[white dawn]

I have some bad news for you about Phase 3 + 4 + 5. :)

If you had an automated production line for Smart Plating from the first phase, btw, then you can just let that continue to run while you go through the rest of the Phase 2 stuff

[paper current]

But 950 more smart platings it cant get any worse right

[white dawn]

It'll be done with the 1000 Smart Plate goal long before you're done with everything else in the phase

[hearty flame]

you have no idea

[paper current]

I have it completely automated other than making it

[white dawn]

Again: I have some bad news for you. :)

[white dawn]

So yeah, just let that run. It'll be done with 1000 of them long before you've got everything else up and running

[paper current]

All I need to do is automate it

[unkempt blade]

I'd recommend getting elevator stuff automated and leaving it running even if you're not actively using it. Worst case you can sink it for points but otherwise you'll have a container of it ready when you need it

[ornate saffron]

many Phase parts are needed to build future phase parts. Automation helps ^_^

[paper current]

I want to automate its just expensive

[unkempt blade]

Even just getting a trickle of it coming in is going to help a lot. Doesn't have to be some crazy number right away

[paper current]

The only hard part is concrete

[ornate saffron]

what you think is expensive will shift overtime, same thing for distance and scale. As you gain knowledge and get comfortable with the game it gets easier

[unkempt blade]

yeah you get more tools to deal with the big numbers and distance and whatever other challenges as you explore/unlock stuff

[paper current]

Should I automate iron or concrete first

[unkempt blade]

You'll want both automated early. I'm not sure there's a huge difference in which order you do them though

concrete is the simpler build of the two

[hearty flame]

it aint too hard for concrete, you just need a miner, constructor and some form of storage
(besides power ofc)

[paper current]

So I have to automate iron first because concrete is way too expensive

[plucky bone]

Man I just found out about auto connect blueprints. AFTER I built my whole rail line to the NW corner from the grasslands. Yep. That's how it goes. Coulda made a nice railway and not a snake. Haha.

[ornate saffron]

but snakes are good in grass

[plucky bone]

It's in the water mostly:(

[ornate saffron]

get that Ghibli vibe

[hard wolf]

what's the max four cars can handle? I decided to keep it simple for now x.x

[ornate saffron]

with mk6 belts they can input/output 1200/min minimum

[plucky bone]

Sure taking my time here. Would hate to see my hrs and I haven't even made one part for phase 4. But am messing around exploring too for hard drives etc. Map opening and so on. Sure seems like a big map.

[ornate saffron]

really it depends on belts used and distance

[ornate saffron]

it is a big map just shy of 50km squared

[plucky bone]

I overdid the train to see what everyone was talking about(The 4 car thing) and am clueless as to why that is a thing. I have big trains and they work good.

[plucky bone]

🇫 Holy

[hard wolf]

I'm also trying to figure out how to spread the load out because I would rather have multiple train stations than a bunch of long iron lines all running to the same station but if a car can definitely handle 2 480 belts I can work around that number

this is mostly confined to the dune desert, so distance (hopefully) shouldn't be an issue

[crimson wigeon]

DAMMIT! Devs got me. I totally forgot about the date. #screenshots message

[white dawn]

A single freight car cannot handle a full 2x-max-belt-speed throughput, btw, since the station pauses material flow for 27sec or so while docking

You can definitely approach 2x-max-belt-speed, but how close you can get relies on round-trip times and such

Though obviously if you need 2x-max-belt-speed throughput you can just add another freight car/platform. :)

[paper current]

This automation is faster than I could have ever imagined

[crimson wigeon]

is there a way to disable it?

[white dawn]

The throughput you can get depends on two factors, basically: round-trip-time for the route, and the stack size of the item itself. What I tend to do is just set up a route with whatever number of cars "feels" right, and then I watch it for a cycle or two. So long as the sending station is reliably getting empied out, I've sized it properly. If not, then I may need to add another car

[white dawn]

"Disable seasonal events" from the main menu settings (has to be main menu, can't do it in-game)

[crimson wigeon]

thanks. They are escaping containment now that they are big

[white dawn]

Oh heh, oops!

[crimson wigeon]

ngl. It got me good. I was immersed in building the initial multi-factory and did not expect to come face to face with that.

[unkempt blade]

as long as it works it's a nice railway 😄

[abstract heron]

@void gorge you DID A RAID WITH Verified Accounts Only Chat 🙁

[abstract heron]

@void gorge WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scenic mirage]

what came out in the new exp patch?

[ornate saffron]

check tomorrows date

[scenic mirage]

1/4?

[ornate saffron]

yup..... also known as April Fools

[scenic mirage]

oh so no patch? 😭

[neat plank]

I lose entire evenings exploring.

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[abstract heron]

it will come today laater

[neat plank]

I spent like 2 hours looking for resources, got lost found myself above where I was before. Confused.

[abstract heron]

or tmr its like 6pm for devs so they probbaly eating dinner

[hard wolf]

that makes sense. thank you

[neat plank]

Somehow I have to make Steel.

[scenic mirage]

oh no we actually dont eat dinner here in scandanavian countries

everyone just gets off work then walks around the city and drinks beer and smokes cigarettes

[neat plank]

Sounds like me in my 20s.

Fr though. The eternal dilemma, do I take the Coal to Iron. Or the Iron to the Coal.

Or take both somewhere else.

[scenic mirage]

i only moved here to denmark a little over a year ago but im shocked how many ppl smoke cigs

and how young they start. and snus, people throw their snus and cigarette butts on the floor and its so sad to see, so much plastic just being thrown everywhere

[paper current]

I thought cigarettes were paper

[scenic mirage]

the filters use plastic

[cedar token]

i just discovered the cyber wagon lmao

[magic aspen]

if I play on experimental and then new version comes out, am I going to have same worlds?

[white dawn]

Yes -- you can always take a save created in an "older" version and load it in a "newer" one. Once v1.2 gets released into Public, your saves in Experimental will still work

[hard wolf]

when I make purple power shards with a somersloop it's not actually doubling them

[white dawn]

What you can't do is take a save from Experimental and bring it back to the current Public, since that'd be going "backwards" in versions

[scenic mirage]

you should be getting 10 from 1 purple

how many do you get

[hard wolf]

5

the constructor also says 10

[scenic mirage]

the first time you make smth it doesnt apply the sloop also, its only on the next one

its annoying but nothing you can rlly do ab it 🙁

[white dawn]

If you're really anxious to maximize your slug production, you can set the recipe to something other than slug processing for that first "cycle" and then once you've produced one of Something Else, switch the recipe back to slugs

That way you don't "miss" the first one like that

But really there's so many slugs on the map it's not really worth worrying about. :D

[hard wolf]

I wanna save as many as possible

[scenic mirage]

i tried doing that so many times and it never worked, i just have 3 constructors specifically for making shards now

never get moved or anything so its not reset

[hard wolf]

that worked, tysm ^-^

[white dawn]

Heh, I admit I've never actually even tried that myself. Not worth the bother -- even without slooping there's more than enough slugs on the map to get me the shards I want

And you can automate shard production in the lategame anyway, so eh

I'm not gonna miss "wasting" a single shard in the early game. :D

[neat plank]

Me OMW to ranch Doggos.

I hope they dont give me Nuclear Waste.

[white dawn]

They don't anymore; their gift pool was updated in v1.0

[thin ember]

no update today for experimental?

[neat plank]

Oh noes.

[ornate saffron]

there will be

[neat plank]

So Slugs are finite in 1.1

[thin ember]

time?

[neat plank]

Or they don't give me nuclear waste xD

[ornate saffron]

no clue, whenever they push it. more bug fixes thats all

and the seasonal event is already live

[white dawn]

Doggos will still give you slugs. They just don't give you nuclear waste anymore

[thin ember]

?

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[thin ember]

how to get those?

[neat plank]

Excellent. I need slugs

[ornate saffron]

have seasonal event turned on (it is by default) and play. you'll see them

[thin ember]

is it at experimental 1.2 branch?

[ornate saffron]

asfar as i know, I dont play 1.2

[thin ember]

how come there's no official info about such event? oO

[ornate saffron]

its april fools thats why

[ornate saffron]

#satisfactory message

[thin ember]

not April 1st here

[white dawn]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/April_Fools'_Day <- It honestly hasn't ever really changed much. Kind of Old News™ at this point (though obviously there's plenty of folks who have never known about it). :)

[ornate saffron]

the world spins and trains keep running.

@thin ember

this is the real Annoucment today ^_^

#streams-and-videos message

[storm zephyr]

is there any better way to set ts up

#screenshots \

[ornate saffron]

depends on the theme. if you are going for Tentacle monster you nailed it

[scenic mirage]

nope unfortunately its the only way

[fluid sapphire]

How could it possibly be done any better than that

[neat plank]

Any advice on Steel Production before I yolo spaghetti 😄

[neat plank]

This is giving me ick xD. So well done.

Like my brain doesn't like the organic nature 😄

[proven snow]

make a lot of steel

so you dont have to go back and spaghettify whenever you need more production

[fluid sapphire]

If you do want to math it out, calculate round trip time, add roughly 1 minute total, multiply the number of minutes with how much you consumers are using, divide this large number with the number of cars, lastly, add a car or two extra

[neat plank]

So unlike a starter where I focus on what I want at the end, this is more like, make a big Steel Plant that's extensible.

And worry later xD

[fluid sapphire]

Extensible designs are overrated :p

[neat plank]

I mean that just means space next to it.

To do it again.

[proven snow]

I'd say so

[neat plank]

Or on top.

[neat plank]

Excellent now to find Iron Ore.

[fluid sapphire]

It's usually easier to just build a new factory if you need more, with extendable designs you have more work by way of fitting the new in with the old

But I suppose it depends on how you build, if you are more production than design minded and not bothered by uneven rows of machines, it's totally fine

But even then, I think it's easier to build a new factory instead

[small nova]

Just finished my oils refinery set up. It got all recipes for fuel.

[proven snow]

For me it kinda depends on if I'm adding new items or just upping production.

Like usually I'll just make a design that can scale up production as I unlock more miners and such. But I won't start adding production for new items and space elevator parts and such as I progress

[neat plank]

Sometimes I like having Production in place for expansing. I tend to enjoy centralising facilities.

Especially if the place feels chill and pretty.

[small nova]

Amen

I always have my factory’s close by

[neat plank]

Like I'm in the Rocky Desert and I'm itching to build a power plant at the top of the waterfall next to the Coal.

[floral sparrow]

Can you disable inventory loss on death without disabling achievements?

[ornate saffron]

yes

[heavy oxide]

I'm going to be converting my biomass burner power plant to a rocket fuel power plant, any suggestions to make it look cool?

[serene jolt]

I now use the respawn button and a hyper tube cannon for transport around the map

[heavy oxide]

Pulse nobelisks are useful for getting back, combined with the jetpack

[serene jolt]

Biomass to rocket fuel?? I can’t build anything that looks good but using reference images could help?

[serene jolt]

lol yeah. Respawn faster though

[neat plank]

Everything Pink.

[heavy oxide]

Ooh I like that Idea

[ornate saffron]

you spelt "peak" wrong

[serene jolt]

lol

[heavy oxide]

I think they meant to say pink

[ornate saffron]

pink = peak. thats the joke

[heavy oxide]

No no no, you have to switch it around

[serene jolt]

Joke went right over bros head

[ornate saffron]

as you can tell by my discord avatar/icon I am the core example of toxic masculinity.

[serene jolt]

Mmm hmm

[zenith pecan]

I mostly use pink with quartz related stuff #design-and-architecture message & #design-and-architecture message , not everything but plenty enough 🙂

[real shale]

aaaaa trynna deal with the math involved in aluminum aaaaa, gotta get the numbers sitting pretty

[ornate saffron]

im a giant helmet pink pioneer

[serene jolt]

Fun times. How bad is aluminum? I haven’t got that far before

[real shale]

its alright

just trying to figure out how to make up these refineries so i can get pretty numbers to work with

[ornate saffron]

keep in mind not only can you feed the water byprodcut back into the system, but you can use it to make silica or copper ingots

[real shale]

im trynna make two wet concrete factories here to deal with the water, just wanna get the pipes in a way that lets me do that cleanly without leftovers

[ornate saffron]

i planned out where all the piping would go before construction this helpd

[fluid sapphire]

Centralizing I can understand to some degree, but leaving stuff open and unfinished would drive me even more crazy than I already am, if thats even possible

Like I have centralized some things like aluminum and circuit boards, but those are still pre-planned finished units in and of themselves

[spare prism]

#screenshots message im done

[fluid sapphire]

Like the building process for me is like, the machines and conveyors and stuff is a paragraph of text, but if I don't wrap it in something, it's like the punctuation is missing and its all wobbly

Neat, I like the lighting

[cedar token]

umm i just built a (relatively) large factory but im still only making 8 smartplates a minute, when i need 1000. do i just wait 2 hours for it to produce or what?

[fluid sapphire]

8 is a decent chunk per minute

[ornate saffron]

ya, go explore. there is 118 harddrives to find, alien artifacts and the MaM needs research

[white dawn]

Waiting for your production lines to finish the quantities required by the Elevator is, indeed, often the case. :)

[cedar token]

is it cheating to use an interactie map

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, just go and keep busy :p

[white dawn]

I personally tend to shoot for about a 2-hour completion, though for Smart Plates in Phase 2 I just make use of whatever I built for Phase 1. By the time I'm finished up with all the other Phase 2 stuff, that original line will have finished the 1k quantity long ago

[fluid sapphire]

I'm sure there are some purists out there that prefer having radar towers everywhere but fr, who cares, I use the map, it's convenient, go nuts

[ornate saffron]

Its a sandbox game. do Whatever you are comfortable with. You dont need me to tell you whats right or wrong. go have fun

[cedar token]

yeah fair idk why im asking you lol

[white dawn]

Smart Plating is generally the first of the Phase 2 requirements I've got completed, since it's technically already set up from the instant I enter the new phase

Might take a bit, but there's a lot to do in phase 2

[fluid sapphire]

3 tabs always open in my browser - wiki, map, and tools

[warped whale]

Unless you build on the ground. That's always wrong.

[white dawn]

The more important question is: who would care even if it was?

[ornate saffron]

no dirt factories can look cool too

[white dawn]

(I mean, if the answer is you, then yeah, I suppose you'd have to decide how you feel about it. :D)

[warped whale]

See how easy it is to be wrong??

[cedar token]

lmao

[zenith pecan]

I still have a constructor sitting on the sand, after 1400 hours haha.

[white dawn]

For myself I actually do kind of consider external tools like SCIM + sftools + such to be "cheating," but I also DGAF if I cheat on my singleplayer games, so eh. :P

Although that honestly is partially why I actually use my own bespoke solvers rather than sftools most of the time. Feels less like "cheating" to me if it's a thing I wrote myself

(I mean, that plus I get a visceral enjoyment out of that kind of recreational coding, to the extent that's often more fun that even playing the game (depending on mood), so there's that too)

Added a "randomize recipes" feature to my own solver which I'm still rather considering using for my next playthrough (presumably in v1.2); should be a good time there. :D

[amber crater]

lowkey what i did was i let it do its thing while i built my new factory

[amber crater]

a good way to think about it is like, you wouldn't allow a run that used the interactive map on speedrun.com, but who cares if some guy shows off their factory they made with the help of SCIM

[fluid sapphire]

Did you load it up with somersloops?

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, we must be careful not to anger the competitive satisfactory scene

I think speedrunners probably don't even need anything like that

[white dawn]

Heh, not sure I agree with the first half, honestly -- I don't think there's any stigma against external references in speedrunning. By the time speedrunners are in WR-attempt territory they've probably internalized a lot (or everything) but I'm sure speedrunners often have references taped up or on a second monitor or whatever while doing runs

[amber crater]

i think it would probably be against the rules on most speedrun boards but honestly i'm not sure. i wasn't saying that i would care for the record

[white dawn]

Even though I sort of consider stuff like SCIM to be "cheating" it's definitely not in the same category of "cheating" as anything that actually directly affects the game

[white dawn]

Oh sure, I'm just talking in the abstract too. :D

[amber crater]

yea :D

[fluid sapphire]

What if they wrote info gained from the map down on a piece of paper? Or what if they figured it out on their own and used that piece of paper? Is there a difference?

[amber crater]

uh idk

[fluid sapphire]

Is writing stuff down cheating?

[amber crater]

i wasn't making an argument for why speedrunners shouldn't use maps lol

[white dawn]

But my own impression is that speedrunning in general wouldn't be at all opposed to using external tools for "lookups" and such. If you're not affecting the game itself I expect it'd be fair game

[fluid sapphire]

Real rabbit hole here

[white dawn]

Yeah, lots of real fine lines there

[amber crater]

i was just saying it probably wouldn't be allowed, i don't really know

yeah

i wonder if there ARE satisfactory speedruns though

[ornate saffron]

oh there is

[cedar token]

thats so funny that the game tells you that youve been playing for too long

[white dawn]

(And, importantly for speedrunning in particular, it'd be something that's literally impossible to police anyway, even if the speedrunning community cared. How in the world could you even know if someone had a browser open on the next monitor over)

[neat plank]

The lone Concrete maker.

In the vast desert.

[amber crater]

i can't imagine speedrunning satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

Well, suppose only if it's live, like GDQ

[ornate saffron]

Any percent speed run record is 11/min 32/sec

[zenith pecan]

The lone slug processor.

[real shale]

okay, you know what, I have an idea to make this factory run, time to do 2% effort math and underclock these refineries

[tired axle]

Hey (hope this is the right channel), is there any mod that lets me build like a control room where I can monitor all my constructions and power sources?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[tired axle]

Ty 🙂

[keen flame]

how tf

you need to unlock so much stuff from thje milestones, what abt the spaceship thing timer

tis like 25 mins at the end of the game

[real shale]

any% means glitches are allowed

[ornate saffron]

idk i just read the chart on speedrun.com lol. There is a video attachted

[keen flame]

there are glitches?!??!?!

[real shale]

of course?

[mystic oriole]

oooohhh yeah there's glitches

[real shale]

you can glitch under the map of course there is glitches lmao

[keen flame]

how what

[real shale]

hypertubes or trains

[keen flame]

ohhh

[mystic oriole]

you can also get lots of resources through blueprints.

[keen flame]

bruh

[ornate saffron]

the satisfactory rabbit hole is real

[clear mesa]

mercer sphere duplication

[real shale]

first time ive ever had to whip out a notepad for this game

[ornate saffron]

any item really

[clear mesa]

yeah but with non-renewable finite resources like mercer sphere or somersloops, can come in pretty nice

[keen flame]

how to duplicate items asking for scientific research purposes so i can avoid it

[reef basin]

honestly just enable creative mode

[keen flame]

if anyone wanna tell me in dms

[reef basin]

I told you in public

[clear mesa]

i believe you just put something in a storage container in a blueprint

[keen flame]

that isn't a solution

[keen flame]

huh, and that just duplicates it?

[stuck canopy]

is there a way to remove items from dimensional depot list?

[keen flame]

uh yes double click

or drag them

[clear mesa]

ive never tried it out tbh with you but im pretty sure it's something as simple as that from what i remember

[real shale]

thank you underclocking for making my life so much easier with this aluminium factory

[clear mesa]

ok from what i searched up it seems to be a bit more complicated than this nvm

[ornate saffron]

clocking is the games bread and butter

[real shale]

now that i know sloppy alumina and electrode scrap have a lowest common multiple of water production to consumpion has made this SOOOOO much easier

[ornate saffron]

its not hard by anymeans. But harder then using Advanced game settings or SCIM

[real shale]

285 heatsink/min factory begins...

[amber crater]

how could you possibly need that many..

[cinder notch]

He brings the heat. The game brings the sink

[ornate saffron]

cooling system, turbo motors, plutonium rods

5090's for AI data centers

[hard wolf]

I tried placing automated gates and offsetting them and they stayed open permanently

[fluid sapphire]

I thought they squashed that, there have been bugs with the gates for a little while now

[fluid sapphire]

Ah the good old days when you didn't have to cheat to duplicate spheres/sloops/slugs and the devs did it for you, not once, but twice

[plush trellis]

If I was going to redo all my factories. Where on the map is a good spot. (That has the most stuff like oil, copper, water and coal, iron etc)

[fluid sapphire]

Why do you want to do that

There isn't really a single spot with all the resources

Swamp has a lot of those close by

[reef basin]

why redo?

[proven snow]

yet...

[wild hollow]

Is it fine to buy parts with the AWESOME shop, or is this a trap? Will tickets become so expensive lategame that I can't afford anything?

[hard wolf]

satisfactory calculator has a map that displays all the nodes, as well as slugs/sloops/etc. I'm currently setting up my huge factory for space elevator in the dune desert. I also have a turbofuel plant in crater lake and want to build my nuclear plant in the swamp

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, quite

[plush trellis]

I need a lot of stuff and my base location is running out of space

[fluid sapphire]

There is a cap on ticket cost, if you're buying stuff just to finish milestones I dont think that's all that costly

Basically you'll be OK as long as you don't overdo it

[wild hollow]

Ah cool, thanks. 🙂 I'm sinking all of my production lines with smart splitters.

[fluid sapphire]

I bought some stuff to finish phase 4 milestones so I could use the things they unlock to actually produce the items

[fluid sapphire]

Just spread your wings, you don't necessarily need to cram everything into one location

The game naturally pushes you to expand

Ditch the idea of a "base"

The whole map is your base

[white dawn]

The answer might depend on whether or not you're interested in buying the "trophies" from the shop.

Those serve no gameplay purpose, but some folks want to get them all. If you do want to get them, you'll thank your Past Self for not buying "parts" from the shop

[fluid sapphire]

What's a couple hundred coupons here and there :p

[white dawn]

It's true that there is a cap on coupon cost, but that cap is quite high. If you want to go for all trophies from the shop you may find it's gonna take you a long time

If you don't care about trophies, though, go for it -- it's not hard to buy out the shop otherwise and still get coupons pretty cheaply

[fluid sapphire]

Just play the same save for 1000+ hours and that problem goes away on its own

[ornate saffron]

100/min BWD would also do it

[white dawn]

You could leave your existing factories as they are and just build the new stuff elsewhere, btw. No need to tear anything down unless you really want to

It'll be easier to build new factories if your old ones are still running and producing construction material for you, too

[wild hollow]

I maxed on Runescape, so I can max this game too. I don't care if it takes the next decade of my life

[spare prism]

you build up then

[ornate saffron]

did you get sailing to 99 too?

[wild hollow]

No, I quit years ago lol

[plush trellis]

Coal checked.
Iron and copper checked. Oil stuff I can train around like im now
Nitro fine
Limestone fine

Is there anything I’m missing?

[ornate saffron]

A lot of people have this overwhelming urge to build everything in a single location and as though its a 2d game.

you have 2km of airspace before the deathbox and the map is 47.1 km2

[ornate saffron]

caterium, Sulfur

[fringe stirrup]

if i dont get diluted packaged fuel soon i'm going to kill somebody

[ornate saffron]

Bauxite, sam, Uranium, water

[ornate saffron]

when you are behind on harddrive scanning its a bummer trying to find the one recipe you want

[rough shore]

act like u dont want it

[ornate saffron]

works with cats

[rough shore]

backfires when ur allergic

[ornate saffron]

I am, I still put my stupid face in there stomachs

[cedar token]

sneeze

[plush trellis]

Sulfur and cat good and checked out. Water is by oil and nearby to coal. Uranium is by the coal. Baxuite kinda far but I can train that in

[fossil oyster]

Has anyone ever experienced.....train station contamination? Like, I have a train station with 2 platforms of coal, and 2 platforms of copper. They are not sushi'd whatsoever. For some reason, very rarely, at the destination factory copper ore has been mingled with the coal line and the factory grinds to a halt.

[iron estuary]

has anyone killed the big blue thing that flys about

[plush trellis]

I don’t think I’m missing anything else

[tight ridge]

no go pet it instead'

[ornate saffron]

it doesnt have a hurt box. Flying this is friend. Give head pats

[fluid sapphire]

This should only be possible if something is lined up (freight platform/wagon) wrong or you are combining them somewhere with a merger

[fossil oyster]

Worth mentioning that the train station serves several trains

[fluid sapphire]

Time to go over everything then, I guarantee you that there's an error somewhere

[fossil oyster]

I "fixed" it with making sure that the train only picks up coal, and the other only picks up copper

There is no error. And this has happened to me before. And I fixed it in the same way. Reanimated SAM got mingled in a bauxite line (again, a mixed station)

[fluid sapphire]

Multiple platforms in a single station can't interact with each other in any way afaik

Not on their own anyway

[normal orbit]

that is a setup issue, either you're loading copper at a terminal where coal is or vice versa

[fluid sapphire]

I think setting the train to load and unload specific items is always a good idea regardless

[fossil oyster]

I know, they should not, but it has happened to me on several occasions (i have a VERY large factory, and have had to raise object limit quite a bit)

[plush trellis]

I could just make alots of mini factory’s. Train across the map back to my “main” base location HMMM

[fluid sapphire]

If it's a large system, it may help to also have smart splitters act as a filter where you're offloading

Better safe than sorry

[normal orbit]

i've a save with around 80 stations and 150-ish trains. and i've never ever seen any co mingling of resources.

[fossil oyster]

I mean it's fixed, but it's just weird

Yeah 100+ trains here and running out of resources that aren't iron/limestone...probably user error then

[fluid sapphire]

Some other train with an accidental extra stop?

Idk

[normal orbit]

like if i want two trains to drop off items from two sources. i build the stations and trains with it in mine. like pickup point 1 is a station with two terminals, and train is engine+cars. then pickup point 2 is a station with two spaces then two terminals and the train is 3 engines and 2 cars. and they both unload at a station that got 4 terminals

[fluid sapphire]

But if what you say fixes it I guess not

[fossil oyster]

Yeah that's how I do it

The coal was never outputted at the pasta plant, only the copper at the time crystal plant

[stuck canopy]

not to take out items but remove that listing entirely

[normal orbit]

no

[fossil oyster]

I'm about to give up on this save anyway because I can't reach 100 BWD/60 AI/60 Biochemical sculptor without majorly re-factoring my factory :(

[keen flame]

ohh, then no sadly

i would love to get rid of some things on there lol

[normal orbit]

you can just pin the things you might actually wanna manually take out, like nobbies, sloops, gas filters etc

and they'll be at the top, theres not really any reason to take out other materials since they get auto used when building

[plush trellis]

Bois.

It’s to to expand

[hearty flame]

is there any way to get rid of coal gen smoke
or am i stuck with smoke coming through my floor

[normal orbit]

kind of

play with high graphic settings and place a thick foundation above

lower graphic settings does make the smoke just go thru

[olive summit]

does a train being opposite to the direction of where its going count as the 4/1 ratio of locomotives and freight cars

[normal orbit]

yes

[olive summit]

k thx

[white dawn]

Hm, the question could be taken a few ways... In terms of acceleration power, I believe it's only the locomotives facing in the direction of travel which produce forward thrust, so "backwards" facing locomotives would be dead weight

A locomotive doesn't weigh the exact same amount as a freight car (and freight cars weigh more when they're filled with stuff), so it's not really exact

[normal orbit]

the only downside is the weight affecting climb speed on an incline

[white dawn]

4:1 is more of a guideline anyway, though. If your trains aren't accelerating fast enough (or are having trouble with hills), just add another locomotive

You can get away with a lot more freight cars for the same amount of locomotives if your rail is perfectly flat (and you don't mind a slower start), etc

[fluid sapphire]

You can't get rid of the smoke, but you can get rid of the floor

[oblique aspen]

didnt smoke get blocked by floors at some point, it would go sideways instead

or was that only from smelters..

[fluid sapphire]

Any man that stays behind, is left behind

Oh wait, wrong guideline

[fluid sapphire]

Not that I've ever seen, smoke is just some basic 2d sprites going wobbly

[proud bough]

i was today years old when i found out ADA yells at you if you spam reasearch tasks

[round tendon]

any way to fix machines becoming invis on joining a 1.2 server

[fluid sapphire]

I see a lot of people exactly as old as you here every day, it's a pretty wild coincidence, anyway, happy birthday

[cold berry]

God I wish we had ladder access holes like we have conveyor holes. It'd be nice for enclosed vertical systems to have access to them when I need to

Without leaving a huge hole in the floor of it

[leaden turret]

fill 3/4 of the hole with catwalks

or fill more of the hole with beams

[cold berry]

I have nowhere to hide the clipping. I made glass containment boxes for my machines, and anything else outside the box will show. The beams is a good idea tho

I'll look into that

With asphalt floors to hide clipping and beams, that may just work 😮

[white dawn]

it's always beams...

[lost cloak]

what ammo do people prefer

[soft rose]

Turbo rifle and cluster bombs.

[lost cloak]

turbo? isnt that storm trooper accuracy?

[soft rose]

Only if you hold down the trigger. It gets faster and crazier the longer you fire. The first 5 or 6 are perfectly accurate

[fickle locust]

You can fire in ~5 shot bursts and be accurate

[soft rose]

Pop the trigger to be accurate, hold it for panic mode.

[fickle locust]

I like homing ammo because I can jetpack and spin in a giant circle

[storm zephyr]

do we prefer the new one #screenshots

[soft rose]

I go turbo over homing for ease of production.

[storm zephyr]

is there a way to make it so i can keep some stuff running if my fuses blow?

like a one-way power pole or sum

[fluid sapphire]

Priority power switches perhaps

[eager palm]

Beams drawn into curves like old LineFlyer tech for ramps

[steel flare]

is turbo fuel the best for power? is it worth the hassle?

[fluid sapphire]

If you set up a temporary production and feed it with one industrial container worth of high speed connectors, that makes 96 stacks of homing ammo (2 industrial containers) - that's more than you could probably reasonably use in a single playthrough

[fluid sapphire]

If you want lots of power for little effort, rocket fuel is a much better return on your time

If you just hold out until you unlock blenders

[coarse shadow]

I just want to ask if the oil to fuel/polymer resin recipe is more useful than the oil to heavy oil residue recipe or not?

[cold berry]

I'm gonna do it

I'm gonna make my first blueprint

200 hours in

[steel flare]

👍 i just built a large rubber and plastic plant but i don’t think 4gw is gonna beable to supply it and give headroom for another power plant so i might have to do that first https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1487194888670941184

[real shale]

cooling device alt my beloved

[fluid sapphire]

HOR starts to shine once you also have diluted packaged fuel or regular diluted fuel

[storm zephyr]

why is 1200mw production not enough for 1100mw demand

son im crine

[fluid sapphire]

What's your max consumption? Do you have machines going idle sometimes and then waking up again?

[coarse shadow]

should i just continue with normal recipe without water for rubber and plastic?

[storm zephyr]

max cons 1093.5mw
capacity and production 1,200mw

[fluid sapphire]

If you're just starting out, the normal recipes are fine

[empty spoke]

can somebody explain load balancers for me? i currently have like 8 mk6 belts that output like 934 of smth, and i wanna basically just minimize the belt amount to the most necessary so all belts cover the most possible which would be 1200, is that what load balancers are for? or can anyone give me a simpel solutions without having to do too much math

[fluid sapphire]

Once you have blenders it makes more sense to use the recycling loop setup

[reef basin]

blenders don't change much tbh

[storm zephyr]

why are you blue

[reef basin]

why not

[empty spoke]

and yes i know that i would need 6.2 belts, but i don't know how i would connect that ingame

[fluid sapphire]

Suppose you could do it with the packaged version, just be a bit more annoying

[real shale]

blue moulded

[storm zephyr]

turns out i just had to reset the breakers at the main part of my base instead of at the coal generators

[coarse shadow]

Its at the beginning of this world (like my fourth world now) but can't choose between those 2 recipes

[storm zephyr]

i have no clue why that was the issue but its fixed so i dont care

spend a billion years making a factory for something using a specific alt
check mam and see hard drive i forgot about
get better alt

[fluid sapphire]

hunt for recipes before planning a factory

[storm zephyr]

when do i get rubber because i need it to open this pod

[reef basin]

only very slightly. Basically the extra "annoyance" comes from having to:

• make one blueprint
• automate canisters into depot

[coarse shadow]

so use the water recipe in mid/lategame?

[reef basin]

after that, it's practically the same

[steel flare]

phase 3

its like the first tier petroleum power

[heavy oxide]

Rocket fuel is a gas, right? I can't remember

[reef basin]

yeah

[heavy oxide]

I thought so, thank you

[steel flare]

i think you can find rubber at other drop pods though in the loot that it drops

[storm zephyr]

whats better for sinking

quartz crystals or silica

[fickle locust]

Quartz crystals are worth more per unit
But silica is slightly better per unit of raw quartz

15 raw quartz can make 25 silica (worth 500 points) or 9 quartz crystal (worth 450 points)
Using only the base recipes of course

[storm zephyr]

so if i have cheap silica i should do that?

[fickle oriole]

every once in a blue moon I'll wan to build something and it won't, showing an '!' icon with a swirly blue circle around it. if I save and reload, then it goes away. Anyone know what's going on here?

[fickle locust]

The game is stuck thinking you're pressing alt and pinging

[fickle oriole]

ahh, ty

[storm zephyr]

whats priority merger do

[fickle locust]

I want to say you can hold alt while clicking and make it fix itself? There's some trick

[storm zephyr]

is it like an overflow gate in reverse?

[fickle locust]

Haven't run the math but seems reasonable. Though concrete is also quite good for early tickets

[naive palm]

"My sink was forced to eat 16 tonnes of concrete 😔"

[storm zephyr]

should i just go exploring and hunting for hard drives

i just got the hard drive scanner

[fickle locust]

It allows you to prioritize while belt a merger takes from more commonly. It's generally much more niche than smart splitters

[fickle oriole]

kinda what it says. If you have goods A and B going into a regular merger, the game will alternate between them - one A, then one B, then one A, then ... Priority merger let's you give one side, say A, the priority - then B's will only go through if there is nothing on the A line.

[storm zephyr]

wait whats somersloop even used for

[reef basin]

what about you play the game and figure it out?

[storm zephyr]

that sounds convenient but i dont know what i'd use that for icl

[fickle locust]

Cool things

[storm zephyr]

should i hunt for that too

[fickle oriole]

it's pretty niche. I've never wound up needing it.

[naive palm]

Alien artifacts are so fun. I rarely have to hunt for them though - you'll find plenty just scrounging around for HDDs

[vagrant oar]

priority merger and programmable (specifically) splitters are generally pretty niche

[storm zephyr]

im broke on mercer spheres 😔

[naive palm]

mercer sphere economy dried up RIP

[vagrant oar]

I've only found myself using programmable splitters once, and I could accomplish pm the same thing with a smart one lol

[white dawn]

Yeah, Programmables are just a space-saver for the pioneer who's invested heavily in sushi

[storm zephyr]

is the radar just a longer range object scanner?

[white dawn]

Anything you can do with a Programmable you can accomplish with smart+mergers

But it's nice to save space, if you've got a lot of item sorting going on. :)

[naive palm]

sushi belt is the one and only time I kicked someone from the server /jk

[white dawn]

Plus they look neat, of course!

[ornate saffron]

You gathered and used all 298? Or just ran out of spheres on hand?

[storm zephyr]

i got all the ones in my general area and i have to go out really far to find more

[ornate saffron]

Radar towers will tell you how many are in its range.

[white dawn]

The radar tower will persistently show you the locations of all resource nodes within its range, and give you counts of things like spheres+sloops and such that can be found in the area

[naive palm]

After your first few spheres A.D.A. tells you to submit a brain damage compensation package but it's unclear who to submit it to

[storm zephyr]

is earth like destroyed or something cause the ficsit hq NEVER responds to my complaints

[white dawn]

Your resource scanner technically has a longer range than radar towers, since it'll show you the three nearest "pings" regardless of how far away they are, whereas radar towers have a set radius

[naive palm]

don't sleep on radar towers though, very useful.

[storm zephyr]

should i be bringing power lines with me wherever i go

ive been using them to zipline back and forth but like is there any reason other than tht

[naive palm]

Would FICSIT be so heavily invested in the ||Save the day|| project if there was no one to save? (phase 2 spoilers I think)

[white dawn]

I always figure I'll probably want some power over in that corner of the map anyway, eventually, so I may as well drag power along with me. :D

In the end it's up to you though

[void cliff]

Don’t forget you can always mark stuff on the map if you wanna find it later

[white dawn]

But yeah, ziplining is a pretty great transit method for much of the game

[naive palm]

do you guys remember the days before power towers... just huge jagged strings of powerlines spiderwebbing across the map?

[storm zephyr]

should i save hard drives for when i unlock later game resources so i can get alts for those instead of "iron wires"

[obsidian bluff]

man this game would be perfect if my blueprints werent weirdly stuck in each session. don't the devs know we want the blueprints to be free and not have to do weird file manipulation or keep making the same BPs just because we are on a new server?

[fluid sapphire]

I have just recently discovered that they can be very handy for feedback loops

[storm zephyr]

for what

[fickle locust]

Don't take me back there, those were dark times

[void cliff]

It’s intended to just make new blueprints, buddy

[white dawn]

Your pool of available recipes gets bigger and bigger as you unlock more and more stuff; I personally like to "keep up" with my hard drive research, more or less, so that when I unlock a new milestone, my next hard drive scans are likely to be recipes for the newly-unlocked tier

[obsidian bluff]

that is just so lame...

[storm zephyr]

i kinda ran out of good alts for my stage i think cause im more interested in the computers and stuff i find around crash sites than the actual hard drives

[obsidian bluff]

whatever reason they came up with not to follow factorio's example of how to handle blueprints, it's gotta be lameeeee

[mossy cedar]

should one automate motors and stators at tier 4 ?

[fluid sapphire]

An example: a sushi-fed high speed connector production with an oversupply of circuit boards that gets merged back into the feed before taking new ones from outside of the system, basically prioritises the boards already in the system (note, image is out of date, silica and quickwire are merged before they enter the loop) #1487064678642487296 message

[white dawn]

I mean, that reason is almost certainly just "we're making our own game, and this is how we want to make it"

[reef basin]

the game is completely different from Factorio. It doesn't scale as much, and the feeling is supposed to be more minecraft-y, where you place everything block by block

[white dawn]

The only DNA Satisfactory shares with Factorio is "make factory"

I mean, plus mutual admiration between the dev teams. :D

[obsidian bluff]

this is an argument not to have blueprints at all, not to make them transfer poorly

[reef basin]

we also don't have any construction bots or anything, and pasting a whole factory instantly is kinda... not fun™

[white dawn]

You're free to play the game without blueprints if you like. :D

[obsidian bluff]

this is not even what im talking about

[white dawn]

I do think that it'd be nice for there to be a way to "natively" transfer blueprints between saves, though, if only for console players. PC folks can just copy some files, ezpz.

[reef basin]

not really. Blueprints for small sections are very useful. And the puzzle is in making them fit into each other

[white dawn]

Perhaps that's on a TODO somewhere at CSS HQ. :)

I've always just made fresh blueprints for each playthrough, though

[obsidian bluff]

it's merely a matter of being very inconvenienced when i want to move my blueprints around

[white dawn]

That way I'm not bound to my past decisions, etc

[obsidian bluff]

it can be done, but they dont support it in a proper way

[storm zephyr]

i kinda got used to this cause i play a lot of modded minecraft with create where the schematics dont save across different packs

its really not that bad idk

[white dawn]

Yeah, it doesn't bother me personally

Though I do think it'd be nice if console folks had a way of moving 'em around

[storm zephyr]

i mean didn't the game only recently get console support

[white dawn]

Yeah

[obsidian bluff]

glad at least there is one person here not glazing such a lame design decision

[reef basin]

ah, I missed your previous msgs and was replying to "why blueprints are not like in Factorio", didn't see you were talking about transfering the BP files

honestly, I think it's good, as it incentivises more to make your own blueprints, though afaik there were technical reasons for this choice as well

[obsidian bluff]

we can do it, but why do they make us have to pull out the files and move them around? it makes the game feel half-finished

[white dawn]

I mean, I do disagree that it's a "lame" decision

It's just How It Is -- as-built, blueprints aren't really intended to be moved save-to-save

[storm zephyr]

why did nobody tell me hatchers could respawn...

[obsidian bluff]

i make my own blueprints, but i play on other servers. now my blueprints are gone. now i cant use my blueprints. see the problem?

[white dawn]

Just 'cause I think it'd be nice for the game to get blueprint transferrance as a feature doesn't mean it's a "lame" decision

[reef basin]

yeah, problem is that you expect to play in same way everywhere 😛

[obsidian bluff]

the game has the same challengen everywhere

[stuck canopy]

can someone explain simpler how does radar tower work? does it need line of sight or not

[reef basin]

not really (and definitely not with 1.2)

[next ivy]

no line of sight

[obsidian bluff]

it's asinine that you think we should all have to make different blueprints every time

[next ivy]

it just displays everything in X range

[white dawn]

Nah, just place it down and provide power, then check your ingame map. It'll show you a bunch of stuff within its scanning radius (ignores Z-axis entirely)

[next ivy]

otherwise underground shit would never be shown

[obsidian bluff]

for those that want to, yeah great go do it, but for those of us who dont we are getting stiffed

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[reef basin]

embrace different playstyle and have fun in different ways rather than spamming the same thing over and over in every save 🙂

[white dawn]

^ well, if you want to suggest features and such to the devs, there's the site for it

[storm zephyr]

what nobelisk does the most damage on detonation

[white dawn]

And yeah, partially because the game's challenge is essentially the same with every playthrough, it really doesn't bother me to make new blueprints for each playthrough

[obsidian bluff]

i make new blueprints every playthrough... you do realize there is nothing stopping anyone from making new BPs just because they still have access to old ones?

this whole argument is lazy

[white dawn]

'cause I'm generally trying to play in some way differently each time

If I just played the exact same way every single time I'd get bored. :)

[next ivy]

i will start using something else, once i come up with something better

[reef basin]

if you've come to complain, expect us to have our own opinions and voice them

if you've come to suggest change, you're in a wrong place

[white dawn]

I mean, we're just talking about why it doesn't bother us. There's the questions site if you want to suggest things to the devs. Not sure what else you expect us to do. :)

[next ivy]

why spend time recreating the same shit ive made 5x before

[leaden turret]

cos that's how poopin works.

[reef basin]

why play in the same way if you can play in a different way

[leaden turret]

[next ivy]

because thats the optimum for me

[storm zephyr]

is there anything important in the red bamboo forest place cause its REALLY laggy when i try going there

[next ivy]

until i find something better

[obsidian bluff]

because the game gives me the same challenges...

[white dawn]

And if you do want to use the same blueprints, at least on PC it's a simple copy->paste.

[obsidian bluff]

obviously some things are going to be the same

[reef basin]

then imo the playtrhough of "doing the same things again" is kinda pointless 🤷 but you do you

[white dawn]

Well, anyway, gonna disengage now, 'cause I think you just want to vent/complain a bit. :) (Which is fine! Welcome to the internet, etc. 🥳 )

[jagged depot]

What is the belt setup people have a name for that starts with an S and is not a sink setup? Can't think of the name

[white dawn]

As I say, if you want to actually give suggestions to the devs, you've got a link to the place where you can do it

[real shale]

Nuke

[leaden turret]

spaghett

[jagged depot]

Not that either 🤣 I already have too much of that 😅

[obsidian bluff]

i'm sure the devs have got this request 10000 times but they just wanna be 'different' and not officially support blueprint transfers

[real shale]

Sushi

[reef basin]

if you're doing the same thing, the same way and without any change, then why do it at all. You've already had that experience. I wouldn't have much fun beating a game by doing literally the same thing as I did in my last playthrough

[jagged depot]

YES thank u

[reef basin]

search the QA site instead of doing assumptions

[obsidian bluff]

and how many times have you seen someone complain of this exact issue?

[leaden turret]

yes, because complying with data protection regulations and silo'd platform controls is something that no other game studio has

[reef basin]

like... three times since BPs came out

including this one

[sterile blade]

Neuron activated 🐒

[obsidian bluff]

musta missed some of em

[reef basin]

I'm here quite often, so I don't really think it's many players bothered by this, no

[ornate saffron]

I could really go for some AYCE sushi

[void cliff]

Always.

[reef basin]

I've seen a lot of questions about "How", but very rarely "why" or "this needs to be changed"

[obsidian bluff]

bizarre... you spend time making these blueprints. why would you want to just toss them?

[void cliff]

sushi is always expensive, but it’s always good. Better to leave satisfied than to leave broke and hungry

[void cliff]

A lot of us toss entire saves

[storm zephyr]

would 17 electromagnetic control rods be hard to make once i unlock them or should i just sink these?

[reef basin]

because of the size of BPs, they are usually designed to solve one specific case for that specific save (and most likely that specific factory/architecture)

[void cliff]

They aren’t hard to make later, but they can also show up as hard drive unlocks, so aren’t bad to keep some around

[storm zephyr]

so i should keep at least 1?

[void cliff]

1 stack

[storm zephyr]

i only have 17

[ornate saffron]

I view BP's as custom assets for the world i use them in. Often for architecture not machines. If i copied them from world to world, Everything would look the same

[void cliff]

Then save until you get 100

[next ivy]

to get to the new stuff quicker
im sure youve played through the game a lot already
some have never gotten there

[void cliff]

Lizard doggies can drop the electromagnetic rods, though. So not too hard to get more

[obsidian bluff]

that makes a lot of sense for architecture. for machines it's the opposite case

[storm zephyr]

is having gigantic bridges in the sky

FUCK i got knocked off by a hog

[reef basin]

you can just... continue the save?

[storm zephyr]

is having gigantic bridges in the sky a good way to explore

[void cliff]

My architecture is generally always bad, so no point to copy a BP to a new save anyway. It’s a 5x5 cube, they aren’t hard to remake functionally.

[next ivy]

not if its not my save

[storm zephyr]

should ia utomate encased industrial beams

[ornate saffron]

You use them for mk4 belts.

[storm zephyr]

how much do mk4 belts transport

[ornate saffron]

480 I think

[storm zephyr]

are parachutes one time use

is there any easier way to get mycelia

[ornate saffron]

Chainsaw to fungus is easiest. If it looks like it may not be a plant, its probably fungus.

[storm zephyr]

oh my god i never thought of that

so THATS what those huge blue mushrooms are

does the lichen on cave walls count

[ornate saffron]

Try it caves are generally i good source

Beware spiders

[supple canopy]

that's no more true, parachute is a full time equipment now (since update 6 maybe?)

[storm zephyr]

does it make me move faster horizontally too like a real parachute

[supple canopy]

not really but you can cheese and climb cliffs and the likes

[heavy oxide]

Those are mycelia which is used for fabric production

[storm zephyr]

is there a way to resist radiation cause holy shit

im trying to search for recipes but ALL these crash sites are surrounded by radioactive mobs

[real shale]

So, moment of truth, i should eventually start seeing 285 heatsinks/min

[ornate saffron]

Yes phase 4

[real shale]

#screenshots message slowly.....

guess i gotta let the feedback loops stabilise and monitor it from there

[storm zephyr]

is there any way to get back to my hub that gives me aw ay back

cause um

#screenshots

[white dawn]

If you just want to teleport back to your hub, you could intentionally die (there's a "respawn" button in the menu which does that, I believe). Can switch your game settings to keep all inventory on death beforehand

[storm zephyr]

but is there any way to leave myself a way back cause im like really far out and im not done here but my inventory is loaded with stuff i kinda need

OH WAIT WHAT IF I PUT DOWN A DIMENSIONAL DEPOT

AND PUT MY STUFF THERE

[leaden turret]

swim around the coast to avoid getting nommed on

[storm zephyr]

im a genius yo

i got gassed out and died anyways

which rebar hurts mobs the most?

[proven snow]

Either explosive or shatter

[storm zephyr]

does explosive rebar break the rocks?

[heavy oxide]

You need a hazmat suit and iodized filters

I have the filters already automated

[heavy oxide]

Yes

[storm zephyr]

is the explorer actually worth using

[real shale]

#screenshots message welp, cooling systems soon

[fluid sapphire]

Idk how your pc doesn't explode with all that glass

[real shale]

glass is performance intensive?

[keen glen]

i didn’t think so

i know lights can be slightly

[fluid sapphire]

It is kinda yeah

[keen glen]

never noticed that

[fluid sapphire]

What's your Gpu

[real shale]

4070S

[keen glen]

4060ti

[storm zephyr]

where can i see how long my powerlines are

[fluid sapphire]

Well more firepower than what I have hehhehh

I noticed it more on my old rx580

[keen glen]

satisfactory tools website probably

[real shale]

hmmmm how long do i wait before i decide "its not the manifolds, theres something actually messing with my throughput here"

[keen glen]

the interactive map part where you upload your game file

[fluid sapphire]

If there are multiple blocks, you could compare them?

[real shale]

i just hope the feedback loops stabilise relatively quickly

[storm zephyr]

i have 73km of powerlines

[storm zephyr]

should i get automated speed wiring?

i think i need automatic wiring later too right

i dont have the high speed connectors yet

[keen glen]

it’s quite easy so u may as well

[storm zephyr]

automated speed wiring or rescan

[storm zephyr]

i rescanned and got quickwire stators

100% worth it ngl

[keen flame]

how to sleep

[keen flame]

i am not sure but you will (probably) get every recipe by the end of the game anyway

[real shale]

close eyes

[storm zephyr]

i just got copper rotors 🔥

[cyan marten]

load up my save: april 1 jumpscare

[storm zephyr]

what does overclocking coal generators do? is it worth it

[twin hedge]

Not worth it

I'm into the "need to find crude oil" portion of the game. Well, I found it but goddamn I'll never get near it with all those spitters

[serene jolt]

i'm hosting with steam and everytime that one friend joins my game crashes

my other friends can join but this one guy crashes the game

[stone python]

100000% worth it, saves on build space, if you care about that. or allows you to expand your power grid without building another plant (provided you can supply the required coal/water)

worth it when you FIRST get to coal? eh, probs not

helpfull towards the end of coal phase though

[coarse bay]

everytime i join friends server the server crashes how can we fix this

[serene jolt]

PLEASE SOMEONE ANYONE

[real shale]

ah i know why my heatsinks aren't producing fully, damn you mk5 belts, youve made me forget once more

[wise junco]

i'm gonna produce your heatskins fully

[cunning glade]

What does css do for the 1st

[junior laurel]

Load the game up or just go through #screenshots
People in other timezone have been posting them a lot.
Happens every year and we take a shot every time we see one on the QA site as a "bug"

[main basin]

So I hear that theres a calculator in the game, where is that exactly?

[next ivy]

press N

[keen flame]

doesnt work i keep doing so

[real shale]

close eyes...but longer

[next ivy]

instructions unlear, am dead

[cold berry]

I've never seen anyone put the miner inside of their factory, so I'm trying that for the caterium in my computer factory

And decorated the area like it's any other spot of my factory

[wild phoenix]

I do that

[unkempt blade]

I like to build them into a little ramp divot in the foundation

[supple canopy]

sometimes I do but not necessarily by choice, I find a cool spot for a factory and there always happen to be a node there lol

[compact seal]

can an oil extractor on a pure oil node fuel more than 8 fuel generators? (Using regular fuel and regular fuel recipe)

[dim pivot]

can someone check my universal path issue please, ty

[wise junco]

depends on your recipes

[next ivy]

huge doggo

[amber crater]

how do you guys deal with placing railways over huge distances

[next ivy]

blueprints

[hallow remnant]

(posted this in the console channel by accedent the first time) is anyone willing to join me on a new satisfactory server im starting, my dms are open

[amber crater]

they don't generate with supports so if you need to bring them up you have to build a whole concrete pillar first

[amber crater]

i don't think even the mk2 designer is big enough to hold a meaningful amount of track

[next ivy]

you can autoconnect rails

but yes

[amber crater]

even then you're still stuck building the support pillars by yourself

and building in only short segments because the designer isn't that big

okay, sure, you don't have to build supports for your railways

but i think it looks bad without supports..

[fluid sapphire]

I don't understand, how would you even do it without supports? What are you saying here

[amber crater]

if you do build a section of track in the blueprint designer so that you can autoconnect it (for things like straight distances or max incline/decline)

[fluid sapphire]

the size of the designer does not limit the length of a given piece of rail

[amber crater]

it does if you're using blueprints like they suggested

cause they can only be as big as the designer

[hallow remnant]

???

[fluid sapphire]

no, thats what auto connect is for, i do mine like this, its just a 3x3 in size #screenshots message

you use blueprint auto-connect build mode, line it up, then lock it, then nudge however far you can

the blueprint itself only has a small stub of rail so the auto connect feature knows whats up, it doesnt need to be long at all

you could make it even smaller, whatever the shortest piece of rail is that you can make,

[amber crater]

wait whaaat

[fluid sapphire]

what

[amber crater]

what the fuck i feel so stupid..

i didn't know that was a feature!!

i thought they meant literally manually snapping blueprinted sections of track to each other

[fluid sapphire]

its still kinda new, 1.1 patch from last summer

[amber crater]

i have to try this'

[fluid sapphire]

incredible feature, i can imagine the pain building rail was before this

well this, vertical nudge and the removal of nudge limit, all huge features that we got with 1.1

i tried building rail before that and it was fucking annoying

[dense violet]

it really wasn't much of a pain
you printed towers and then quickly just snapped rail between two far bits

it was in fact very fast

[fluid sapphire]

i had a hard time getting my rail to the right height, the annoying fiddling i had to do to get the blueprints to the correct height ughhh

[amber crater]

um coming from someone who already built 3 train lines like that

that was fucking miserable!!

[fluid sapphire]

amen, i know for me i couldnt do it without these features

well maybe i could without auto connect, but vertical nudge is huge

[dense violet]

that's wh yyou zoop a line of foundations along the path first

[dense violet]

zoop a line of foundations the whole path first
then print 'towers' on top that hold rail
connect them as you go

it's great for planning AND keeping everything tidy #1487321875922030722 message

[fluid sapphire]

suppose if you fiddle around long enough you figure out how to do just about anything

[minor cedar]

bro signals are too confusing

train signals i kinda get the purpose of the block ones but pathing ones are just too weird

[wise junco]

path in, block out

[minor cedar]

yeah i heard

[soft halo]

Quick question, do asphalt roads increase tractor/truck speed? Or just player speed

[hallow remnant]

is anyone here familiar with systemd i just want somone to check my config

[noble coral]

soo wtf is the weird runny thingy and why are all the animals resized rn t-t

is it an april fools thing?

[dense violet]

you can also jsut do blocks everywhere. Paths are totally optional

[cold berry]

I'm so excited for this first real attempt at a super aesthetic factory I learned how to use the photo mode lol

The photo mode is awesome

[dense violet]

shouldn't increase speed in any other way that it's often easier to drive straight and flat?

[mortal ginkgo]

asphalt is cosmetic in the game. any foundation can just make your ride smoother because of flat train but not actually increase the speed

[minor cedar]

do u not need paths for multiple junctions at the same place?

[feral vector]

it pains me to have so many leftover space elevator parks

[dense violet]

need? no not at all

just turn the intersection into a block

[minor cedar]

why do people use them then?

[dense violet]

mostly they like the look of them I guess?

sometimes it means mroe than 1 train can use a junction at the same time
but conversely ALL trains always slow down at a junction even if there's no reason to

but very few people ever have so many trains they need anything like that

you can, w/o much effort, never ever use path signals

[amber crater]

why build any train signals when you could build a lotus interchange

[minor cedar]

i c

[molten chasm]

Im starting in satisfactory, currently at phase 2, but i dont know if its worth it to keep the materials for previous Convenyor mk's stored. Should i just store the mats im using for my current Convenyor mk and redirect the rest back to the factorys?

[dense violet]

the materials that make old mk belts are used for other things too

[molten chasm]

Like im not using reinforced iron plates but i dont know if i should keep storing them while using half of it or use my full stock on the factory

[feral vector]

it's good to automate them, have them go to a storage container, and have the overflow go to an awesome sink. you use them for stuff occasionally

[wise junco]

automate everything. whatever you dont automate, you will need automated eventually with few exceptions

[molten chasm]

you think is better to have an overflow rather than using them for more complex recipes?

[wise junco]

if you siphon off of your existing production to produce more complex items, you'll find yourself backed into a corner typically. you'll run out of resources quick

[feral vector]

I'm still new but so far it seems like automating one machine worth of everything is good so you have them on hand, then later on when you use them in production lines you keep those separate and just make more of whatever it is

I tried to siphon off my automation and it made my starter factory a shit show lol

[dense violet]

you can always over flow it to things you are also making - just don't sink them and it'll all back up and store

[molten chasm]

oh so you have a dedicated production line for each item?

[feral vector]

easier to just automate iron plates, iron pipes, wires, copper, etc. and have a storage container full so you can use them when you need them. extra goes to the awesome sink so it's not a waste

[dense violet]

for me? while going up the milestones?
the opposite xD I just smoosh all the items together

[feral vector]

lol you make me feel better about trying to use my leftover parts to container feed the phase 3 parts

[wise junco]

this is the way

[dense violet]

It's a good method for just unlocking things and focusing on other things

[feral vector]

I literally have like 4000 each of smart plates and automated wiring, it feels stupid to make production lines for them again lol

but I'm sure later I'll be like shit I should have automated the phase 3 parts cause I need them later

[molten chasm]

and do you use an exclusive node for each item too?

[wise junco]

typically, i do, unless i make a specialized plan for that specific resource

[molten chasm]

ok i think i get it

[feral vector]

that seems kinda awkward to do early game

[molten chasm]

you think so?

[feral vector]

maybe I should plan my phase 3 parts factory based on node outputs

[feral vector]

don't listen to me I'm a newb too lol

[wise junco]

there are more nodes than you need to beat the game. do what you need to do that makes sense to you to stay organized and grow outward

[molten chasm]

also, is there a more efficent way to travel than hypertubes?

[feral vector]

do you know about using multiple entrances?

[molten chasm]

yhe

i do

[feral vector]

a cannon to launch you across the map is probably faster than a bunch of entrances going into a tube but I just use the tube I'm too lazy to set u pa cannon

[molten chasm]

maybe i should start moving everything in trains so i dont have to move around an pick everything up