satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

Fluid compression for ttansport would be good to. Like how gases compress 4:1 when packaged

[scenic mirage]

liquids arent compressible tho

[ivory condor]

You forgot rain to wet

[green fiber]

That doesnt help with the fact that train stations only have 2 pipe ports in / out

[ornate saffron]

Don't they go 2:1 when packaged?

[late tartan]

Idea, have the fluid platform changed so that something kinda attaches to the train from the platform and pipes it to the platform.

[hard ivy]

liquids? no

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ i meant irl

[ornate saffron]

Im talking in game

[green fiber]

Not even ingame.

[ornate saffron]

O ok

[green fiber]

Liquids are 1 : 1

[sterile blade]

Or 4:1

[green fiber]

Gasses are 4 : 1

[ornate saffron]

Okay ty

[green fiber]

Dont get your fluids, liquids and gasses mixed up guys

[late tartan]

Most liquids cant be compressed any reasonable amount with SIGNIFICANT amounts of pressure

[hard ivy]

rocket and ionized are 2:1
nitrogen is 4:1

[sterile blade]

We can't sushi them 😭

[green fiber]

Right i forgot, the oddballs

Then again, it is 2 m3 into a tiny bottle

Dont ask how concentrated rocket fuel or ionized fuel are

[sterile blade]

They kind of make up 2/3 of the packageable gases... Hardly the odd ones out, by now days standarfs 😅

[ivory condor]

Back in u2 you could sushi it all, but that art form is now lost

[normal orbit]

tbf you can fit nearly 11 m^3 into a 50L bottle :p

[sterile blade]

Well, that gives me an idea for a future sushi-based playthrough... (handling fluids always as solids, with Packagers around every fluid-handling machines)

[ivory condor]

That could work

[ornate saffron]

On a 2x power run 😛

[ivory condor]

Would have to package all the oil as it comes out of the oil nodes to

[sterile blade]

Oh my...

[sterile blade]

Empty-package-galore playthrough

The loopbacks for packages would be quite insane

[fiery pewter]

Birb spotted

[ivory condor]

And 2x parts multiplier

[ivory condor]

Actually with 0.25 parts multiplier you might be able to do some crazy stuff with packagers hmmm

[sterile blade]

Packagers' multiplier doesn't affect empty packages...
Ie: they thought ahead, no way to make "free resources" loops

Eg: with 0.5x, you'll need 30 Water and 60 packages to make 60 packaged water

[scenic mirage]

aluminum could be inf water

[sterile blade]

Not quite. From the perspective of water, you'd be burning Bauxite and Coal/Coke to get some amount of Water (also alu, ofc).
If this was doable with Packagers, then we'd actually be looking at endless resource generation (ie: fill one Packager once, have the loop making output forever with no additional input)

[fossil oyster]

Do packagers actually take 0.25x/2x etc into account? That's silly

[sterile blade]

They are processing machines (albeit a bit special on some recipes). Why wouldn't they?

[fossil oyster]

Because you can create infinite products from 1 water

[sterile blade]

You can't... We just went over this 😅

[fossil oyster]

Yeah okay lol

What about sulfuric acid?

50 sulfur 50 water -> 200 sulfuric acid boom

Hopefully it's not a KSP2/City Skylines 2

[sterile blade]

That's not a way to make infinite products

[fossil oyster]

Never said it was

[sterile blade]

Example of packaging: 30 Water + 60 packages = 60 packaged water
60 packaged water = 60 water + 60 packages

The fluid gets multiplied, but the packages are fixed

[fossil oyster]

Is that how it's implemented? Weird

[sterile blade]

If the packages were multiplied too, then we'd have infinite packages out of a pack-unpack loop (no input, just processing the same fluid in a loop, with an output of packages xD)

[fossil oyster]

Yeah just leave them as is I mean. 30 water 30 packages = 30 packaged water

[sterile blade]

I don't quite see the point in that...
Why exclude them from the multiplier completely?

[plucky bone]

Do you want any surplus in a big refinery? I got mine to .01 surplus. Or is exact better.

[fossil oyster]

Yes.

(whatever you want. mine are all exactly 100%)

[abstract heron]

👋

[plucky bone]

? It won't stall it after ten or so hrs?

[lilac lotus]

is there a way to rollback a save from 1.2 to 1.1 to use mods?

[plucky bone]

Was just not wanting to go under to starve it eventually.

[fossil oyster]

Why would it?

[abstract heron]

Question DID YOU BACK UP YOUR SAVE

[fossil oyster]

If you sink the excess it will not stall. If you don't, yeah, it will stall

[lilac lotus]

i have a couple of saves. started the game in 1.2

so start fresh?

not much of progress there so it may be okay

[abstract heron]

for 1.2 due to EXP i made new save

[plucky bone]

I seen with a miner and a smelter both at 100% and the miner backs up. 59 was a better flow. And 60 for smelter or you would eventually get extra and back up. A Mk 2 I think at 60. Was wondering if fluids had that little "Grace period" of randomness at same settings?

[lilac lotus]

aight

[plucky bone]

Like I said earlier. I am picky. And knowing everything is cool.

Not rude like. I'm just specific I guess is better wording.

[fossil oyster]

If all outputs exactly match the input it should never ever stall

[sterile blade]

I'm not sure I'm parsing your message correctly, but it sounds like the Smelter wasn't running all the time, causing input to pile up
Either that, or a wrong clock or the use of a certain flying tool. Possible spoiler: ||the hoverpack can cause machines to go idle||

[plucky bone]

No, it was early on. Smelter didn't back up just didn't process 60 like both were set for. Seemed to be round 59.75 only so I put it at 59 now and it runs good. Been a while since I been there though. Building a train and power corridor round this place.

[fiery pewter]

What.

Was the smelter conencted via manifold?

[twin plinth]

is there a time frame when 1.2 comes to the main game/

[fiery pewter]

Yes.

Sometime this year

[ornate saffron]

when its ready. no date annouced

[twin plinth]

ah thanks

[fiery pewter]

I wonder if Let'sGameItOut is an actual gametester

[plucky bone]

Just one smelter at 60 w/ 2 constructors behind it. A mk 2 miner at 60 will eventually fill the belt to the smelter. At 59 it's good. On a crappy impure iron node.

[fossil oyster]

That really should not happen

[fiery pewter]

I have never had that.

[plucky bone]

I'll test it again.

[fiery pewter]

Maybe some save file corruption but it's not my field of expertise.

[plucky bone]

Gimmie a bit though. I ain't at that place.

Unless a restart was needed. I'll check later

It happens

[fiery pewter]

Wait are you on a dedicated server?

[plucky bone]

Nope.

Singleplayer

[fiery pewter]

Hum

[plucky bone]

Decent PC too. I think anyway

[fiery pewter]

And ofcourse the obvious questions:
The constructors have their outputs connected and all of that jazz

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> video this week or not?

[fiery pewter]

Because 2 things at 60/min should not cause backups

[ornate saffron]

you are a savage. asking every day lol

[plucky bone]

Yep. For sure. I made sure to do all that. Evne replace and reset the recipes/power shards..

[abstract heron]

what i did not hear a answer for mikael in stream

[plucky bone]

Even belts and mergers

[void gorge]

No

[abstract heron]

minus patch notes only had 3 weeks of video

[abstract heron]

Next week maybe?

[void gorge]

No

[fiery pewter]

Mk 0.5 belt when

15 items per minute

[abstract heron]

Oh ya i got to remember europe has time change this weekend

[fiery pewter]

1 hour less sleep 😭

[abstract heron]

BUT streams won't end at 1pm for me anymore

or 1:15pm

[velvet kindle]

[abstract heron]

Okay thank you noow go make 1.2 nice pls

[ornate saffron]

Many of us suffer this. no body is happy. i really dont know why we still do this

[fiery pewter]

They're working on that don't be so bossy

[abstract heron]

stream from CSS start at 11am for me and can last till 1pm

[abstract heron]

i anit bossy 😛

[fiery pewter]

TrADitIoN

[fiery pewter]

You just told people who are busy doing something to go and do that.

U ain't their boss

[abstract heron]

ik but i am hoping 1.2 is nice and being worked on

[fiery pewter]

They are working on it 😭

Forgot the experimental branch didn't you

[abstract heron]

IK 😛

[fiery pewter]

Hrm gotta ping Big M

[void gorge]

@void gorge

[zenith pecan]

Huh?

[fiery pewter]

You

Mk. 0.5 belt when

[unkempt blade]

I hear it's going to make fluids even more perfect than they already are

[void gorge]

2.0

[fiery pewter]

Hell yeag

[valid glade]

yeah america does it too and it’s really dumb

[fiery pewter]

Isn't winter time the actual time

[fossil oyster]

Yep

[fiery pewter]

Or was it summer time

[fossil oyster]

Winter time is "actual time", whatever that may be

[valid glade]

winter

when it gets dark early

[ornate saffron]

Canada here.

Ontario specifically. We have legislation in place to make a time change permanent but some douche decided to pin it to New York states decisions. So if they ever get rid of the time change we do too

[valid glade]

LOL that’s never gonna happen

i think we should just stop the time change forever

[fiery pewter]

Lmao canada triggered dyno

[fossil oyster]

Adamantite Ore

Oh wait, that's a different game

[fiery pewter]

Lmao

New SF+ addition

[ornate saffron]

I can rant about this forever and its more of a #off-topic-general thing anyways.

[reef basin]

good old times in osrs with adamantite

[valid glade]

true true oopsies

[ornate saffron]

im guilty too lol

[unkempt blade]

But what about how the time change messes up all my train schedules in game? Is that still on topic?

[clever pier]

while I was away from my base DoggoMate found a single nuke nobilisk. um where has he been?

at least it wasn't nuclear waste

[unkempt blade]

I think 1.0 got rid of rad waste gifts, it's truly the end of an era

[clever pier]

i like the idea that there are caves too small for a pioneer to enter that the doggos go into that are full of stuff from past failed pioneers attempts

thats where they get the "gifts" from

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say they are taking from crashsites and your factory

[spare prism]

Good morning I need a fiscit breakfast

[wind ore]

at first the corrupted ada seems creepy but tbh its getting hilarious for me

[unkempt blade]

then you're going to need some giant pistachios, blue food coloring, and a disposable vape

[supple canopy]

just realized there's a bot doing ADA react anytime the letters ada appear in a message

[tall lantern]

wonder what wins, ada or coupon

[golden river]

prada?

[hard ivy]

Is coupon even still a thing?

[tall lantern]

and in reverse order? coupon or ada

[hard ivy]

Apparently not

[tall lantern]

huh, guess not

[supple canopy]

"I wonder what wins, the house or the chips?"

[tall lantern]

rip

worked fine yesterday

[supple canopy]

coupon?

[hard ivy]

Why did you get one and not me XD

[tall lantern]

coupon, kupo

[ornate saffron]

let's save kupo!

insert mog gif here

[real shale]

Kupo

[timid ledge]

good morning 🙂

[real shale]

kupo?

[timid ledge]

i am at a point where i need a big storage 😄 is it worth to build dimensional storage ?

[ornate saffron]

v#off-topic-media message

[reef basin]

always good

[weak bloom]

Spoiler alert, we are actually feeding kupo nuts to lizard doggos

[clever pier]

ficsit breakfast is lizard doggo eggs with paleberry sauce and fried bacon agaric

[ornate saffron]

honetly that would slap

[weak bloom]

Satisfactory is a final fantasy game, the aliens are Jenova

[unkempt blade]

The dimensional depot should be able to handle what you need for most items. For some of the highest-use items I'll keep an extra storage container of them around

[real shale]

USBeeralo

[ornate saffron]

when ever i see the birds look up to the sky mouths wide i wana drop a nut into its mouth

[timid ledge]

ya i mean i just run arround and grabing items...

[real shale]

I mean you can always teabag the bird so

[ornate saffron]

not the same

[weak bloom]

I set up a blueprint with 2 industrial storage containers into a dimensional depot and a belt out for overflow to a sink, I slap one of those down into the end of every production line, more or less

So if the depot runs out I can go to the container and grab a few stacks

[supple canopy]

for things like iron plates, concrete etc... I have several dimensional depots so the upload is as many time faster. works very well with a storage beneath and a mk3 conveyor lift

[weak bloom]

Usually I only need to do that for like, concrete or steel beams when I'm putting a ton of foundations down though

[timid ledge]

i need to have the storages close together ? or can i just upload from the factory

[weak bloom]

Depot uploads wherever

[spare prism]

@ornate saffron hi

[supple canopy]

from the factory, the whole point of DD is to have access to it anywhere anytime

[timid ledge]

sounds good thank you man 🙂

[supple canopy]

#design-and-architecture message my setup looks like this, like @weak bloom described

[weak bloom]

Yep mine is basically that plus a second ISC on the side and a smart splitter to overflow

I don't have them all in one place for basic materials though but I might rework a factory to make more basic things in one place later on

[supple canopy]

mine has overflow too... hidden underneath 😁

[spare prism]

@ornate saffron what you building today

[ornate saffron]

@supple pulsar

its a long standing bug. #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

nothing. im sick and at work. I can hear my heartbeating in my ears

[spare prism]

Damn you can't be sick that isn't the fiscit way

[ornate saffron]

But i am working on the plans for FMF and Turbo motors for pioneer use

Selecting the best recipes for my goals and resources and such

[spare prism]

I'm working on trying to find pipes and the zeno basher in the cave

[ornate saffron]

there is bladerunners and a helmet there too

[spare prism]

Yea I found them I just can't find the 3rd nest

[ornate saffron]

gotcha

[spare prism]

Also I keep falling and I'm getting mad

[ornate saffron]

im sure there is a million youtube video wlakthroughs

[spare prism]

I tried searching up but I'm not getting much I had a short video tht showed 2 but not a way to the 3rd, another one just showed the entrance and the first nest then the video ended 💀

[proven snow]

You guys ever wish that there weren't any guides at all on games and the community just had to fumble around together rather than seeing the 100% foolproof meta zero brain power yt walkthrough?

[ornate saffron]

i did it 200 hours ago on my save. which is likely months ago at this point

[spare prism]

No

[proven snow]

fair

I'd expect it to be an unpopular wish

[dense violet]

no? yt tutorials are bad and you don't learn 1/10th what you would doing it yourself
people just cripple themselves and build someone else's factory

[spare prism]

I use tutorials in all my games

[supple pulsar]

glad to know its not just me🥲

[ornate saffron]

save then load always fixes it for me. its only a issue on my low spec laptop

[weak bloom]

It's a bit of both. I don't necessarily want to just do everything myself, I want the community aspect of figuring things out like we used to back in the day. But yeah the content creation solved meta is kinda frustrating for a lot of games. Especially single player, like why do people look up builds for rpgs and shit, like who are you impressing by being #optimal
Like don't get me wrong I'm fine with tutorials and stuff but these days it feels like every game is "solved" the moment it's released so I usually avoid most content like that.

I kinda blame live service becoming more popular for letting this bleed into single player, because it really started with mmos and the like.

[proven snow]

I am a fan of being able to access information for how a mechanic or something works

But a guide on what to do is just bleh to me

[next ivy]

with these types of games theres rarely 1 single best way

if there is it would take ages to calculate

[ornate saffron]

i feel the same. I want the information that supports me in utilizing mechanics not a step to step guide.

teach a man to fish so to speak

[supple canopy]

I've ranted about this many times, last time being yesterday I think, but guides on "chEckK oUUTt the ToPp 10 alT RecIEpE U CAnNoT MiSS 😱 " absolutely get under my skin, mostly if it's just about how to "get rid of screws"

[dense violet]

recipe tiers are trash, it's true

[unkempt blade]

We all know cast screws is the best recipe. Do we really need posts/videos just to confirm this?

[ornate saffron]

bro jsut trying to start a fight lol

[real shale]

How to get rid of screws

Step 1 : skill issue

[unkempt blade]

hey engagement bait is how I get this internet personality stuff to pay my bills!

[ornate saffron]

Queue a pop hit about fighting

"this is my fight song"

[weak bloom]

You're so right, and the best way to run a save is to use recipes that maximize the use of wire and screws

"screw your manifolds, logistics is a skill issue"

[scenic mirage]

yay im so excited, its time to build my train infra 😶

[real shale]

No it's not, it's time for trucks, lots and lots of trucks

[scenic mirage]

choo choo motherf*cker

[real shale]

Vroom vroom motherf*cker

[unkempt blade]

or factory carts think your mom is a classy lady and respect the hell out of her

[serene jolt]

Yeah I got it. Thanks though

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[green cloak]

guys ive just unlocked powerpole mk2, when i make new power lines is there a setting to automatically place the mk2's?

[scenic mirage]

NPP FACT PLEASE

[clear aspen]

Hello fellow mamytemian

[clear aspen]

#off-topic-general

[green cloak]

hello

[serene jolt]

I think it’s based off of what you build the cable off of. I just place a mk 1 if I don’t need the mk 2 then connect and build from there if that makes sense

[green cloak]

okay, thanks

[unkempt blade]

you can use "quick switch" once you're in the cable tool and it'll keep using whatever you switched to for further clicks

[dense violet]

but also, you probably want to keep using mk1s. Mk2 poles make for a spagheti mess of cables

power sockets are great placed next to machines too

[clear aspen]

How’s everyone doing

[obsidian zodiac]

fantastic texanplaneguy how about yourself

[clear aspen]

Quite well, I have a small question and I feel this is asked a lot

[spare prism]

bruh im getting mad i cant find these stupid pipes ive been walking around the past 30 mins

[obsidian zodiac]

not sure i can answer it but lay it on me

[clear aspen]

Is cross play between consoles and computers planned?

[obsidian zodiac]

it is not currently planned but it is certainly not a closed door 🙂

[clear aspen]

Sweet

[keen flame]

LOL i remember that

[scenic mirage]

do yk what the word is on half glass frame foundations? and 1/2m windows?

[obsidian zodiac]

im not sure, sorry

[tall lantern]

no word, probably

[scenic mirage]

🙁 those would be dope

[tall lantern]

don't forget to upvote things you want on the QA site

[tall lodge]

You know what would be cool? A hub module. basically a square module that can be snapped to the grid but built in a way that it integrates into existing builds so you can actually integrate it in other builds. In general the one thing I am missing is more ways to make the place an actual home for the poor pioneer.

[obsidian zodiac]

weve been bringing up architectural pieces more in general, so we'll share more as we get more info locked in

[tall lodge]

oh hi Jason o/

[scenic mirage]

do you have a link? 🙏

[spare prism]

yes we need to build more factorys

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @tall lantern

[tall lodge]

Like generally furniture and such would be such a lovely thing to have. I know you can approximate beds and couches with some trickery, but I rather would love to have a beach house you know. After hundreds if not thousands of hours the pioneer has a right to that I think 😉

[obsidian zodiac]

just keep in mind that while we gather as much feedback as we can, the studio has to prioritize things for both the health of the game and the studio in general 🙂

but mikael and i both feel strongly that more customization is a good thing and were having those conversations!

[tall lodge]

Yeah I am just daydreaming here, not expecting any of it to be clear. But a person can dram 😉

[weak bloom]

Honestly biggest architecture thing I want is filling out all combinations of foundation, walls, sizes, and materials. It's like almost there but not quite xD

[clear aspen]

Man pointed shades on the pioneer helmet would be so peak

[tall lodge]

Also love the weather on exprimental, been a long time since we had that way back when.

[gilded prawn]

hi guys plz answer the question why i cant do record in tractor for autopilot like i cant open menu for it

what i need for autopilot

[green fiber]

What button are you pressing

[gilded prawn]

like all

no button

[green fiber]

There should be a radial menu you can select stuff from

I think it was V?

[mossy moon]

I thought it was q

[green fiber]

Q is the recorded path menu i think

[mossy moon]

Maybe I miss remember BCS I'll never use it

[mossy moon]

Ah

[gilded prawn]

q i open inventory

[mossy moon]

Hm

[green fiber]

Im starting to forget too because 1.2 vehicles are just better

[mossy moon]

Indeed

[gilded prawn]

and its experemintal verison , maybe its a reason?

[green fiber]

Oh you are trying in experimental?

[gilded prawn]

yea

[green fiber]

You cant record paths anymore

[mossy moon]

Explains it

[normal orbit]

🙏

[green fiber]

You can only select stations now

You need to build the paths by hand now

[clear aspen]

Oh what I’d do for external emojis and stickers, but ik the reason why

[valid glade]

same, sucks how a few people ruin stuff for everyone else but that’s life 😔

[gilded prawn]

ok ty

[clear aspen]

Dead chat

[jagged nymph]

no its not

its ALIVE

[tall lodge]

We are just all too busy with optimizing our factories 😉

Or making them prettier.

[jagged nymph]

or making them messier

[ornate saffron]

play more satisfactory and generate more conversation around your experiences

[clear aspen]

Can’t I’m in school 90% of the stuff I do outside of school is satisfactory

No I’m student

Sophomore in high school

I promise you I’m a high school student

[next ivy]

@tidal slate no one can text in that channel

[jagged nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/kevinmcgarry-lafb-loveatfirstbark-collage-gif-23112507

[next ivy]

and the achievement says collect 100 hard drives
not scan 100 hard drives

[tidal slate]

Yeah but how else should i get them

[next ivy]

exploration

[clear aspen]

Still within discord TOS tho

[next ivy]

or buying them from shop

[tidal slate]

Oh true

[clear aspen]

Im jus a sophomore who is lowk really into nuclear power

[next ivy]

and you will get more stuff to scan when you progress the main quest

[jagged nymph]

lwk ts pmo icl

[tidal slate]

Yea alr but what can i do about this i marked every crash site that i looted and am pretty sure that i should have the trophy by now

[next ivy]

can you even place 100 markers

i never paid attention to that

[tidal slate]

Yeah you can place 250 in total

[plucky bone]

Is there a setting to partial rotate on foundations?

[next ivy]

hold ctrl

[plucky bone]

Not 90 degrees. partial like 10 at atime like on land

[next ivy]

yes ctrl should do that

or was it shift

[plucky bone]

It just snaps to the foundation 90 at a time. I get 4 choices. It's a blueprint with foundations as a base.

[next ivy]

well

its a blueprint

place a rotated foundation first

then place the blueprint on that

[plucky bone]

On land is fine. Guess Nudge it is.

🇫

[next ivy]

if you want to 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️

[plucky bone]

Click click click.....

[tidal slate]

Just to finish this @next ivy so i cant do anything rn except for collect all 100 again?

[plucky bone]

I'll try some stuff.

[next ivy]

if its anything like PC achievement tracking, then you can even collect them across multipple saves

are you sure you didnt do something to disable achievements in that save
not sure what that would be but theres probably something

just went ingame to check, yes it was ctrl

hate people that make me double take

[tidal slate]

Nah i got almost every trophy except for this and a few other which were bugged (didnt track) as example the "research every milestone" one which didnt pop while i was finished and had everything but that one gor fixed and i have it now

[real shale]

Nacho cheese

[lean fossil]

whgats the void storage called again

[tidal slate]

Am i not yummy?

[jagged nymph]

dimensional depot

[lean fossil]

You are a goat

[abstract heron]

what kind of cheese you are

[lean fossil]

is it possible to just delete all fandom wikis

[jagged nymph]

frr

if theres an official wiki theres no reason to have the fandom one

[abstract heron]

use the wiki.gg ones

[jagged nymph]

it sucks so bad

[abstract heron]

as mikael

[lean fossil]

yes i js want to delete the fandom wiki

[velvet thorn]

Void storage is a new name for it
Personally I like to call it Google drive

[abstract heron]

or jason

[viral egret]

imma be 100% real with you guys i think i'm just too dumb for this game

[abstract heron]

why

[velvet thorn]

Relatable

[lean fossil]

I'm autistic in the game and I'm doing js fine

[viral egret]

this game actively makes me feel like i'm just very stupid

[abstract heron]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[velvet thorn]

But it also might just be that I refuse to use calculators

[lean fossil]

do yall love uncle sam (the "SAM" ore)

[unkempt blade]

if you can't do math on your fingers and toes then nature never intended for us to know the answer

[velvet thorn]

Can confirm

[lean fossil]

IM really STUPID I HAVE AN ASSEMBLER WITHOUT AN OUTPUT BELT

wait how the language does one connect 4 belts into one belt

[unkempt blade]

be kind to yourself it's just a game

[normal orbit]

mergers

[jagged nymph]

mergers

[ornate saffron]

two or three mergers four if you wana be silly

[lean fossil]

better?

[lean fossil]

I already have one connecting three belts into one

I'm stumped at the idea of connecting for belts into one

[jagged nymph]

merge 3 belts into one, now you have 2 belts. Merge those together

[lean fossil]

Goat

[jagged nymph]

lowk thought that was like common sense but apparently not 😭

[real shale]

Now merge that singular belt again

[ornate saffron]

| | | |
m-m-m-m------

[normal orbit]

what about second merger?

[west jackal]

Nature? Base 10 number system was some arbitrary numerical system that someone developed long time ago, however, base 12 or base 16 are actually WAY better numbering systems, base 12 is probably the best because you can easily divide by 2 3 4, but we will never switch to this because the general public wouldn't understand it and would think 0x16 is 16 and not 22

[normal orbit]

and elevensies mergers

[lean fossil]

i could not mlg zipeline
i'm dead

[west jackal]

Just click right click then ot stays out?

[lean fossil]

I hold.

[normal orbit]

jsut toggle it on

[unkempt blade]

I like base 7 because it works better with my fingers

[west jackal]

Uhhhh

How many fingers you got on each hand there friend

[normal orbit]

did you put some fingies into a factory cart?

[unkempt blade]

enough to throw a baseball

[west jackal]

I'm thinking the radiation grew extra fingers?

From the clearly nuclear powered factory carts

[jagged nymph]

i like base 2 because it works better with computers

and then the computer can do everything for me

[west jackal]

Base 16 is soo easy to convert to binary

[jagged nymph]

autocorrect eh?

[west jackal]

Also hex appears everywhere in nature, we just choose to ignore it for "simplicity" but anyone doing advanced operations (computers or engineers etc) would likely agree that base 10 is poop

[west jackal]

Yeah I'm in class on my tablet lol

[jagged nymph]

imagine having to go to school

[west jackal]

It's my last semester then i have to go... to work

[unkempt blade]

kids these days... you're supposed to be doodling the cool S on your notes not messing with discord in class

[viral egret]

fr where the cool s went at cmon

[lean fossil]

I sure am lucky
a sam with 10000 poison thingies

[west jackal]

Eh my teacher is ranting about synchronous generators 😮‍💨

[jagged nymph]

thingy go spin, spin with magnet induce magnetic field on coiled wire, coiled wire make electricity

[west jackal]

Basically lol

She's using data from 2018 though.. I think that her charts of where our energy comes from may be outdated

[remote marsh]

there isn't really a way to skip exploring right?

[west jackal]

Uh you can spawn in all the items ig?

[remote marsh]

yh but..

[ornate saffron]

you can purchase hard-drives for 100 tickets

[west jackal]

You can use scim to spawn in the slugs sloops spheres and hdd

[remote marsh]

i ain't cheating that hard

[west jackal]

Not vanilla

[ornate saffron]

im at 220 hours with 400 tickets..........

[spare prism]

You tell him bee

[ornate saffron]

you can buy Hard-drives in vanilla though

[spare prism]

Show who's boss

[west jackal]

Huh????

[west jackal]

Since when

[ornate saffron]

since 1.0

[west jackal]

And I have more tickets than you

[lean fossil]

niceee

[west jackal]

😜

[ornate saffron]

you have to get to phase 5 though i think

[viral egret]

what's the point of the bolted iron plate recipe? it just consumes way more resources... is it just cause it's faster?

[lean fossil]

15 spiders

[spare prism]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/ewuTwuTe4A

[west jackal]

Does it actually use more?

[ornate saffron]

that is not suprising at all. I power all my munitions from the remains of my enemies

[viral egret]

yes it uses 6 more bolts per plate

[ornate saffron]

but outputs more plates too if i remember

[normal orbit]

more screws, less machines

[lean fossil]

and i killed them all holy

[west jackal]

My remains go to inhalers for when I'm on the swamp

[lean fossil]

do they spawn back?

[viral egret]

yeah i just dont have a 250 belt yet

[normal orbit]

do in one assembler what would take three normally

[west jackal]

Yeah but you save on power/buildings in the long run, especially with cast screws/ steel screws

[west jackal]

Lower the clock speed to 48%

Then it takes 120 🤷‍♂️

[viral egret]

that'd avoid the whole point of making it faster...

[west jackal]

No, still faster than the other, but yes i agree

[viral egret]

i mean, i guess... idk i'll fubmle around

[west jackal]

It was a sorta joking answer

Also, you save power underclocking 1 instead of the others 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

more screws less

[real shale]

Underclock all your machines to 1%

[west jackal]

Is every adult in here an engineer 🤣 @jagged nymph

[real shale]

I am yes

[jagged nymph]

im neither

[real shale]

I am an electrical engineer :P

[scarlet aspen]

Anyone has any idea how long 1.2 can be realsed from exp ?

[jagged nymph]

like prolly like 3 months

[west jackal]

I'm about to be

[real shale]

They say that for every time someone asks they extend it by a day (a.k.a no one really knows)

[unkempt blade]

That's a generous interpretation. I mostly just talk to people and scream at Claude

[west jackal]

As an engineer? Let me guess, software engineer?

[scarlet aspen]

Okay thanks, so gonna download exp right now

[real shale]

Software engineers aren't real, that's just AI in disguise

[unkempt blade]

Yeah software/devops stuff but doing consulting stuff recently so it's less hands-on-keyboard time

[west jackal]

What do you do? I like applications / pcb design! But I have interview for control system position next week

[real shale]

Power engineering

[west jackal]

I prefer hands on than consulting when I worked at software comp

[west jackal]

Like power systems or power electronics?

[real shale]

They go hand in hand these days so both

You can't really distinguish between the two these days, they are one in the same field

[west jackal]

I mean, do you work on the transformers and stations for power grid or do you design converters/inverters/pf corrector etc

[west jackal]

Fair enough

[real shale]

I work on transmission/distribution network stuff though, not so much power station

[west jackal]

The 2 line power towers bug me in satisfactory, the implication is that satisfactory uses DC to span the wuooe map?

[unkempt blade]

I make more money now (independent LLC) than I was as an individual contributor at a permanent job but it's a lot more networking and people stuff to get to that point and less coding flow time

[west jackal]

Do you like it?

[real shale]

I love it

[west jackal]

That makes sense, my dad was a independent contractor, but joined a solid role when my sister was born

[tranquil hemlock]

Building a copper blueprint. Setting up the outputs at a 3-slot conveyor wall. Just realised I'll have copper sheets in the middle, between the wires and cables. Just paused when I realised and stared at it in disappointment for a minute

[unkempt blade]

and since LLMs blew up it's been a lot more knowing how to use LLMs well then swordfighting on chairs while claude does stuff

[west jackal]

Lmao

[real shale]

DC is very effective for long distance transmission so it's likely

[west jackal]

Huh?

Everything I've been taught is that ac is better for distance

[real shale]

No need for phase transposition or reactive power control.

At longer distances AC actually becomes a lot more lossy and that's especially clear for cables

[west jackal]

Because DC has large fall off proportional to distance?

[real shale]

The opposite

DC becomes much more efficient in longer distances which is why it's used in interconnectors

You'll RARELY see an AC subsea cable

[west jackal]

Then why doesn't any country use DC for centralized grid?

[real shale]

Because there's a limit

Capital cost of converter stations cripples DC application

[west jackal]

I wonder if my teachers lied to simplify concepts

[real shale]

For >50km underground you are better off using DC

for overhead it's like ...200? 300?

[west jackal]

That makes more sense, I wonder why ficsit allows such expensive power networks

[real shale]

And the only reason for that is purely because of converter stations being so expensive not so much the lines being inefficient

With DC you don't need to worry about shifting phases about to balance impedances at longer distances or controlling reactive power to prevent ferranti effect

[tall lodge]

Because its more efficent. Cost is a non factor if you have one pioneer building the infrastructure 😉

[spiral summit]

not rly as they just join up to 1 nub by the end and i like to imagine one wire as a neutral

[real shale]

Earth* not neutral

There's no neutral on towers, that's a transformer thing :P

[west jackal]

Maybe its to do with wasted power? Isn't ac easier to have high voltage low currents then just a transformer to step it back down? That would reduce the power loss?

This would also be a cost thing I'd suspect as power loss is money loss?

I mean if I'm wrong please correct me, I appreciate it ❤️

[spiral summit]

really? where does the neutral go then

[ornate saffron]

in #off-topic-general im sure the nuclear nerd there will likethis convo too

[real shale]

The neutral of the transformer is earthed

[spiral summit]

i study physics so please excuse my lack of electrical engineering

[west jackal]

We are talking about the satisfactory power grid 😜

[ornate saffron]

i did?

[ornate saffron]

naw, we past that lol you are solid into IRL at this point with transformers nad undersea cable lol I like the convo i just wanaa make room for satisfactory chat

[spiral summit]

thats funny

that means all my power plugs are double earthed

[west jackal]

I know 😟 sorry

[spiral summit]

how many times does one have to earth an electrical appliance

[real shale]

No, different thing

The neutral is used for a return path in plugs, the earth is used for safety

[spiral summit]

thats interesting

i always assumed that the neutral has to return to the source of the ac to complete the circuit

[real shale]

You are correct

[tall lodge]

I mean realism goes out of the window relatively quick given that a single cryptid engineer can operate a power grid that can surpass a G7 nations power production.

[spiral summit]

so uhh... how does the circuit complete if the power lines have no neutral?

[tall lodge]

Quick check on numbers Germany had roughly 210GW which is very much achievable in Satisfactory.

[real shale]

Basically the neutral on transformers provides a return path for unbalanced loads, the power lines themselves don't have a neutral but I'll admit my knowledge at distribution/domestic level is shaky so I'd recommend looking it up ;P

[normal orbit]

210gw is like a small nuclear plant :p

[west jackal]

Dang, my tiny plant makes close to that with just 1 sulfur node

I'm going for 2TW from nuclear

[normal orbit]

210gw is what you get from 300/min uranium in a full chain

[west jackal]

But I needed a little power to push for mk6 belts

[real shale]

Have you changed node purity?

[west jackal]

Uh no

Is it not possible? 😮‍💨

[real shale]

2 TW shouldn't be possible from nuclear on default node purity

[west jackal]

I thought someone said you could get to like 4TW or something total

[ornate saffron]

setup nuclear to the plutonium rod step sink the pluto rods and return when you have all phase 5 unlocked

[normal orbit]

its not 1470gw is max

2100/min uranium

[real shale]

Even then you are still on waste excess too iirc

[west jackal]

From just nuclear?

[west jackal]

Is that full chain?

[real shale]

You can't actually produce enough ficsonium to burn all the plutonium waste from what I remember

[normal orbit]

full chain of 50.4 uranium fuel rods to 22.4 plutonium rods to 112 ficsonium rods

[west jackal]

How much sulfur? Sam? Trigons?

[real shale]

Yes.

[normal orbit]

3300-ish sulfur, 4500-ish trigons. need to sloop the ficsite ingot step.

[west jackal]

Okay so I still have enough sulfur to get the rest of the way from nitro

🫣

[west jackal]

What alts is that with?

[lean fossil]

how many screws do i need for 100 rotors.

[west jackal]

And do you work backwards for that?

I mean to say, how did you plan out the numbers/min

And do you not have sam for anything else in the world?

[normal orbit]

infused cells, fuel units, non fissile uranium, instant cells, plutonium fuel units

got plenty of sam for other things. slooping the ficsite ingots leaves me like 6000+sam/min

[spiral summit]

busy ragebaiting ada by slowly flushing 1 cement bag at a time

[west jackal]

Woah, how many sloops/sam do you use? Sorry if that's a lot of questions, just curious

[spiral summit]

do these voicelines ever end

[west jackal]

Well, I still want to push mk6 to unlock pure miners

[normal orbit]

its 20 sloops into 10 converters

[west jackal]

I thought they took 4 each?

[normal orbit]

they do not

[west jackal]

Cool!!

DeafBringer is gonna "love" the new project

I'm sad that 2TW nuclear doesn't work though.

I'll just need to setup rf in the crater

[spiral summit]

ada has like 15 unique voice lines of telling you to stop flushing crap down the toilet

[rough shore]

now i have to go and get them all thanks

[hybrid jewel]

Guys, I built a hypertube canon, so now I cant jump off...

[feral vector]

got coated iron plate or 6 inventory slots from a hard drive, figure I should just leave it in my library?

I have DD but they aren't very upgraded yet

[plain quest]

I've been playing the 1.2 experimental. When I open the escape menu it doesn't pause the game.
Is this something that has to be manually enabled?

[soft rose]

Zooping signs will be the death of my gpu

[valid glade]

what gpu do u have

[sturdy fulcrum]

tried to protect myself from the rain with glass roofs in 1.2

it didnt work
like you had one job

[keen flame]

detailed game

[soft rose]

6700xt. Im being sarcastic. But i walk into certain hallways and it sounds like its going to take off.

[valid glade]

LOL

[soft rose]

Ada also has lots of lines scolding you for killing Beans.

[normal orbit]

wish you could zoop signs with a slight clip :p

[weak tinsel]

I killed one because it was clipping into my coal powerplant and wasn't moving

ADA didn't like it

[loud sable]

I have a question--

I am just starting out , and Ive spent my last long while setting up coal power.

Are 15 coal generators gonna do me well enough?

[west jackal]

Pausing like that is a mod

[west jackal]

Not even close. But I recommend scaling in sets of 8. Makes life easier

[soft rose]

Same. I had one in my Power plant that wouldn't move. He got nuked. Ada's like "I liked you better before you did that." Well Ada, I was never a fan of yours anyways.

[normal orbit]

typically coal gens go in factors of 8 :p

[plain quest]

didn't the 1.2 changelog say that was a new feature?

[west jackal]

Ask in experimental channel.

[normal orbit]

1.2 can pause on menu now

[weak tinsel]

Go for 32 coal generator

[west jackal]

Oh no, the ghosts haunt me

[weak tinsel]

What ghost

[west jackal]

Ada got mad when I killed a few on accident

[keen flame]

you killed a few ticks on accident?

[soft rose]

@west jackal yeah the Doggos and Beans shes nit too happy about us hurting.

[spiral summit]

maybe i should just delete ada

[west jackal]

Well beans get in the way. They die.

[soft rose]

@spiral summit she needs to be AI limited.

[west jackal]

I strap 10 nobelisks and if that doesn't kill the beat them with my stick

[weak tinsel]

She also scolds you for flushing items down the toilet

[soft rose]

@west jackal Beans get a clip of turbo ammo. They either move or mowed down.

[odd ibex]

Can someone explain me the Kirchhoff's Voltage Law and Kirchhoff's Current Law in satisfactory terms?

[lean fossil]

can i get a lore explanation as to how the flower poison thingy becomes a statue?

[cold berry]

Because f* you, nobelisk time

[feral vector]

am I blind, where does it say how much fuel a fuel-powered generator needs?

[spiral summit]

you need to give it fuel first

[feral vector]

lol hmm kinda hard to know how much fuel to provide

I figured it out, if you go over to the fuel part you can push a button to show the supported fuel

[naive pendant]

The wiki entry for fuel generator shows the math pretty well

[feral vector]

I guess I never learned how to do that, biofuel was just throw in whatever I have and coal I kinda looked up the setup for 8 gens

[feral vector]

yeah I can just google it I was wondering about in-game though. I'm trying not to look up exactly what to do for fuel generators like I did with coal

I learned a lot from my mistakes when I tried to get storage set up figure I should try the same for something with pipes 😛

[lime furnace]

was the hard drive scanning time changed in the experimental build?

[weak tinsel]

We should be able to zoop in 2 directions at once

[rough shore]

yes

why is that not in the game rn

[lime furnace]

who do I need to talk to to get that as a setting

[restive sandal]

I don't even know what a zoop is 😭

[weak tinsel]

Zoop mode? Basically you can place multiple foundation or walls at once in a line

[restive sandal]

Oooh. I still don't know why it's called Zoop

[fossil pagoda]

do you guys know a mod that make like... grass placebable ? like put natural terrain texture on ur fondation ?

[weak tinsel]

Because it's funny

[fossil pagoda]

bcs when u do it, that "zoooooooop"

[restive sandal]

Will there ever be a floop mode?

[fossil pagoda]

sure, that called fluid

[fossil pagoda]

infinite zoop mod is ur bff

[keen violet]

any experienced players want to join me

[twin parcel]

uh , found out u can sink packaged water to farm for sink points

[ornate saffron]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[keen violet]

this game is hard af

chos everywhere

[feral vector]

I love getting jumpscared by my hypertube entrances lol

I didn't realize any of them could suck you in and not just the one at the end

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[tall lantern]

the game's also a giant tutorial, take it slow and pay attention, and just try stuff out. You'll pick things up as you go, and if you get hard stuck on something, you can ask questions about it

[keen violet]

the MAM stuff is confusing and weird and annoying

[lean fossil]

what do i do with radiation im cooked

[tall lantern]

what's confusing/weird/annoying about it? it's not really much different to normal milestones - put items in, get an unlock out

[tall lantern]

it's only microwave radiation that cooks

[real shale]

[restive sandal]

I'm lacking motivation to reorganize my factory. Please help

[lean fossil]

Genuinely I cfant get past that sht

[tall lantern]

modifying a working factory is unnecessary, go build new stuff, much more productive

[rough shore]

do both

[ornate saffron]

I phase 4 you'll unlock a way to deal with radiation

[restive sandal]

Except that there's new tools I have to make the whole thing less cluttered. It's an old factory, so even if it technically works, there are easier ways to go about producing things

Also, it looks like an eyesore.

[ornate saffron]

The easiest is to leave it as is. If its making what you need. There is no issue. If you need more just build another

[real shale]

I refuse

[tall lantern]

"because I want to" is always valid, but again, if it works it doesn't need changing. Instead of trying to upgrade a 20/min to a 40/min by rebuilding the whole thing, if you instead built a new 40/min, you end up with even more

[ornate saffron]

Its your choice 😛

[real shale]

Rebuilding is fun

[tall lantern]

it's a common trap to get caught up in rebuilding old stuff because it can be better, because it can always be better

so it's instead good to take those new thoughts and learnings and apply 'em to your next factory

[feral vector]

I fixed up my beginner factory but it was only to make sure things all went to storage and the overflow went to a sink, cause stuff kept filling random containers and stopping production

I think that was worth it but even then I'd probably be better off just progressing and sinking better stuff from a newer factory, not like you need a ton of awesome shop stuff

[unkempt blade]

The part I think is silly is everyone says they're doing it to "increase efficiency" but is actually just trying to make it look subjectively better

[marsh tundra]

where's the pause option for vehicle paths?

[unkempt blade]

wanting it to look different is a fine reason, people don't need to fluff up their justification beyond that

[ornate saffron]

In 1.1 you pause be actively pausing while you record the route

[marsh tundra]

sorry, i forgot to mention I was on experimental 1.2 😅

[ornate saffron]

Lol. No pauses needed then

[marsh tundra]

yeah, that's why I'm having a problem, because the tractor is doing laps all the time without waiting for the station to fill up

and the pause button at the station seems to not respond

[gleaming wasp]

ive got a question about the game

for some reason, my to-do list isnt appearing on my ui

[ornate saffron]

Best to move this to #satisfactory-experimental they would know more

[ornate saffron]

Open you build menu and click the far right side of the screen. If it has no notes, Nothing will be displayed.

If there is notes and they are not displayed it maybe some sort of bug. Which can be reported on the qa site

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[gleaming wasp]

im trying to show what i mean but for some reason i cant copy+paste images into this chat

[ornate saffron]

Try #1038092680493801533 and make a post

I have yet to experience this but other maybe able to help

[supple canopy]

guys, say I fuel my drone with plutonium fuel rods (pFR) and a roundtrip consumes less than 1pFR / min. Will it consume 1 pFR everytime it gets to its home port, or it'll hold onto it for as many roundtrip the pFR can last?

[ornate saffron]

As far as I know it'll continue to use that power source until it runs dry

They it will consume another from the ports fuel supply to continue functions when it can no longer make another trip on the previous input

[supple canopy]

dope, thanks

that's so cool because I thought about sinking 8 pFR (I'll be making 16), but I'll use it as drone fuel instead

[ornate saffron]

BUT my information is out of date as i havnet used drones with rods in some time. I dont see a reason to change it though

[supple canopy]

okay thanks, i'll test tonight

[covert valley]

Is it better to have coal gens go directly to power towers or is it fine for them to go to poles?

[gleaming wasp]

whatever is most convenient for your setup

theres nothing wrong with making them go into poles

[green fiber]

Doesnt change efficiency

So do whatever

[covert valley]

Okay i thought i seen something that said the towers were better but guess not thx

[green fiber]

Towers definitely aren't better or worse than poles

[leaden turret]

easier to land on a power tower than it is a pole 😛

[feral vector]

if I have some fuel gens splitting off a pipe, then at the end have a pump that goes up to a fluid buffer, the fuel in the buffer won't be able to flow back down cause of the pump? need the pump further back?

[jagged nymph]

dont use fluid buffers

at best they do nothing at worst they ruin flow

[feral vector]

really wtf lol

[jagged nymph]

the only time to use them is for
a) fluid trains
b) aesthetics (you dont actually connect a pipe to them)

[feral vector]

not that I don't believe you but that's weird

[jagged nymph]

its cause a pipes flowrate is related to how full it is, if you have a buffer, it wont fill (or if it does it doesnt help anything) so your pipes wont get good flowrate

[feral vector]

I guess if I let all the pipes fill up before I start anything it doesn't really do anything except delay the inevitable if my math was wrong

not like the math for 2 refinerys into 4 fuel gens is hard I gotta uninstall if I messed that one up

[twin parcel]

normally i fill up the buffers first before production . yes fluid can slosh but the problem is less obvious on mk1 pipes .

[feral vector]

if everything stays full isn't the buffer doing nothing though?

[twin parcel]

they are just backup to start up power plant if the fuse blown .

[jagged nymph]

then put the buffer in parralel, not series

[feral vector]

hmm ok

[twin parcel]

eh its just one industrial buffer .

[feral vector]

you overestimate my intelligence lol

[surreal pond]

I just got into trains and the signal are really confusing. They all say signal loops int itsealf ore some work but the others say the same that signals loop into itsealf..Is there a way to fix it or do i have to redo all my rails? If it help im on the new exp branch

[jagged nymph]

make the signal not loop into itself

[normal orbit]

move signals away from the splits in the tracks

usually easiest way to fix it

[surreal pond]

if i move alll signals away from the intersection they seem to work but one is still complaining about the signal loop

[normal orbit]

rebuild the track after that one

[surreal pond]

can the issue be cause by the signals being built on track thats been autoconnected between rail bluprints?

[normal orbit]

if the autoconnect wasnt autoconnecting then yes

180 degrees are valid turns since 1.1

[dire wagon]

I just finished tier 3 and i'm omw to setup a coal extractor. I wanna move base becauase the place where i'm at right now is bad, it has a single coal source and its on a floating island (which has no water on it).

My criteria to find a base for tier 4-5 would be finding a location with some water and either a pure coal source, or a few normal nodes. Is this a good strategy?

[twin parcel]

do u think converting 2400/min fuel to rocket fuel is excessive?

[jagged nymph]

nah

i needmthe power

[surreal pond]

the rails work i have ran trains through it but the signals are complaining about it looping itsealf still. Should i have the signals in the rail bluprint or manual place them?

[twin parcel]

hmm , how u guys deal with excess compacted coal?

[tall lantern]

use it to make the rocket fuel that makes the compacted coal

[leaden turret]

burn it in a coalgen

[normal orbit]

or make steel with it

[leaden turret]

ooh, you could make screws with it that way 😛

[normal orbit]

never used signals in blueprint so dunno. But i can say i dont have much issues with that

[leaden turret]

give yourself more problems 😅

[west jackal]

Do I need pressure cube for anything other than pasta and motor alt?

Trying to decide how many rcu I should turn into pcc (out of the 90/min)

[tall lantern]

why not check the wiki

[west jackal]

Doesn't tell me if late game buildings require, does it?

[supple canopy]

for ficsonium if you ever go that far in nuclear

it's a commitment but a good one

[tall lantern]

it tells you all recipes it's directly used in, so you can follow the chains from there

[west jackal]

It shows me plut fuel cell, pasta, and tmotor, i was just curious if like particle accelerator requires it or the enrichment etc

[tall lantern]

pasta's definitely got at least one non-spelevator use, though I forget it offhand

[west jackal]

Bc I was gonna use pressure motor alt (saves on resources) so was curious if I needed to save an pcc or turn them all into pasta (except for ones going to motor)

[jagged nymph]

s

[supple canopy]

yes for the singularity cell, which is used both for portals and ficsonium

[jagged nymph]

i lowk need to handcraft 400 motors cause i need them to make fuel power cause i have not enough power to automate them

[reef basin]

it does

[dry hamlet]

is there a 1.2 bug with coal generators that are not visible

[tall lantern]

if there is it'd be in #satisfactory-experimental

[reef basin]

*on QA site

[tall lantern]

or both

[unkempt blade]

I hope you have a great hour+ at your crafting bench

[jagged nymph]

yeeeepppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

[supple canopy]

you can buy them in the AWESOME shop, I keep forgetting about it but it saves so much time

[jagged nymph]

true...

[unkempt blade]

they're basically all over the place at crash sites for free

[jagged nymph]

yea too lazy to do that

ill just buy em

[west jackal]

turn off other factories?

[jagged nymph]

easier to afk tbh

but i already awesome shopped them

[west jackal]

i learned you can turn off priority switches from anywhere, so its very easy

[jagged nymph]

dont have those

i also have one big megafactory

[keen flame]

just go take a shower

it‘s about time, as a satisfactory player

[plush girder]

is it unreasonable to want an on off switch added to the SINK unit?

[west jackal]

how long do you take to shower, tf?

[west jackal]

why?

just use overflow sink and add storage?

[plush girder]

why not? I have my reasons in my recycler unit and it is the only one without .

[supple canopy]

connect it to a power switch

[west jackal]

i just asked why, obv you have reason

[plush girder]

good idea ikd why I didnt...thank you

[plush girder]

I just asked why not...and gave a reason don't get upset I wasn't making a slight

[keen flame]

quite long actually unrelated to the joke you replied to

i like to sit there and think about where it all went wrong

[fickle locust]

I don't know what the use case would be and it prompts me to ask if you use smart splitters

[keen flame]

well i guess but if the idea is to keep them in a container when theyre not being sunk you can just… not do anything instead

[normal orbit]

s'what overflow splitters are for

[west jackal]

i didnt get upset, just a weird request because typically the sinks are always on as overflow protection. thats what i asked what your reasoning was, because i was curious

[spiral summit]

little easter egg in the 1.2 map #screenshots message

[elfin idol]

lolllll

[jagged nymph]

its confirmed thats intentional btw

lemme find it

#satisfactory-experimental message

t38 talon over my house rn

[lean fossil]

how get fuel for explorer

[ornate saffron]

Grass, wood, biomass,coal. Almost all fuel sources are accepted

I dont think it takes rods anymore

[hollow ravine]

is the ficsit foundation material missing or was it never there?

[jagged nymph]

it was always, and still is there

ada ficsit coupon

[hollow ravine]

not in 1.2 exp #screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

wait what??

why is it not there

[hollow ravine]

im talking about the first foundation you ever get

the plate + concrete one

[jagged nymph]

yah i know

[hollow ravine]

was it ever there i think i remember it being there

[jagged nymph]

wait now i cant remember if its supposed to be in that tab

[hollow ravine]

why wouldnt it be tho

[jagged nymph]

idk

cause its not a skin, its the default

or smth

[hollow ravine]

i dont think it should be that way

[plain marten]

how do you play experimental

can you start a new save in it

and can i continue it after 1.2 release

[tall lodge]

You have to select the experimental branch on steam.

[plain marten]

do i still get achievements

[tall lodge]

No idea honestly. Never cared much about them.

[jagged nymph]

yes

[plain marten]

can i continue my save after 1.2 release

[jagged nymph]

yes

[plain marten]

perfect

so theres 0 downside to using experimental so essentially its the same as 1.2 being already released

[jagged nymph]

other than there might be bugs

experimental basically just means beta

[loud sable]

Hey! So... I am super early into the game, but I found a uranium node--- Im guessing Im hyper far from being able to use Uranium, so I am wondering..

Can I tank the radioactivity damage to build a mk1 drill on the uranium node, then make it so that everything it mines is fed into a SINK for those coupon points?

[jagged nymph]

yeah, but its not really alot of points

[loud sable]

I have absolutely nothing that I can do with Uranium

[jagged nymph]

correct

[loud sable]

so if I can turn it into a point farm, even if slow, untill I can use it, I say its a win?

[jagged nymph]

yeah

no harm, its just not really a ton of points

[unkempt blade]

I like doing this earlier game. It's a nice easy way to get some extra coupons

[timber willow]

yeah its only 1 or 2 points per ore isnt it?

[jagged nymph]

35

[timber willow]

ahh

[loud sable]

It would also help me get em faster- At the moment it costs me 40K points for a coupon it seems

[unkempt blade]

It's decent points per item if you're doing it early game. It's not a huge amount of items though so it doesn't scale super well

[jagged nymph]

yeah itll certainly give you a few tickets early game

[loud sable]

I am close to unlocking a MK2 drill- I think

[jagged nymph]

not enough to make like 50 tickets in a reasonable amount of time though

[jagged nymph]

its in logistics mk3

what phase are you in

[coral marsh]

Quick tip: the space elevator parts have the highest points value for the sink

[jagged nymph]

yes

[loud sable]

idk, Im hyper far away exploring the map and killing stuff for protein. Cuz I just now learned how to make that DNA thing

[coral marsh]

In phase 3 I believe its the modular engine with the highest value

[jagged nymph]

although you likely arent making them in high quantities

[loud sable]

Id send a screenshot of where I am at rn, but I cant send images hahaha

[unkempt blade]

yeah I like getting some of the building/organization stuff from the shop ASAP so any little boost at the start of the game speeds it up a lot

[jagged nymph]

what is your space elevator requirement currently

[loud sable]

Phase 2

1000 smart plates
1000 steel frames
100 of those odd things

I already settup automated crafting for both smart plates and the frames

[jagged nymph]

ok then its in your current phase

unlock logistics mk3

[timber willow]

i remember those days lol my world is like 10 mill points hence why i say this lol

[loud sable]

wanna hop on a call so I can stream and show what I have going so far for myself?

Its my first ever playthru tho

so if you see something settup in a way that causes your eyes cancer, please forgive me xddd

@jagged nymph @unkempt blade @timber willow

[jagged nymph]

?

[loud sable]

.

[jagged nymph]

post screenshots in #screenshots

[loud sable]

oh, I did not even see the screenshots room

mb

[timber willow]

best way to show stuff off @loud sable

[coral marsh]

Ballistic warp drives have the highest point value in the game, 2.4 million each

[jagged nymph]

thats alot ofp oints

[coral marsh]

It is, but theyre also extremely expensive

[timber willow]

yeah you almost have to be sinking these to get the nut unless you afk sink alot

[coral marsh]

Which is what my friend intends to do

Afk sink as much as he can

Me? I still plan to produce and sink 20 ballistic warp drives per minute

[jagged nymph]

im gonn make 2 bwd per minute

[coral marsh]

Im pretty sure thats just 1 manufacturer at 200% clock speed, so, nice one

[unkempt blade]

even just overflow sinking all your factories should get you pretty close by the time you're beating the elevator objectives

[jagged nymph]

i dont usually make alot of space elevator parts per minute, since i can just wait longer for it to fill up

[coral marsh]

Theres a mod that turns iron ore into biomass, biomass into protein, and ofc, the usual protein into 30 dna capsules per minute

[unkempt blade]

the 1.1 goals aren't a super big number so just have a couple per minute knocks it out pretty fast

[jagged nymph]

iron ore into biomass?? that defeats... the entire point of biomass?? that its not automatable???

[coral marsh]

I once had a steady flow of 300 thousand DNA points per minute with that mod before I stopped using it

[coral marsh]

Partly why I stopped using the mod

It was incredibly broken and made everything far too easy

[jagged nymph]

yar

[unkempt blade]

yeah it sounds like you almost might as well just use AGS at that point

[coral marsh]

The mod gives you recipes that only consume 1 of each required item to make 10 of the resulting item per recipe cycle

For everything

I decided it was far too OP to use and removed it

[jagged nymph]

i use infinite zoop and curvebuilder

but.... well they dont work on 1.2 exp yet 😭

[coral marsh]

In the base game, its either Mycelia or alien protein, but one of them has the largest conversion ratio of any item in the game into another item.

I believe its alien protein into biomass at 1500 per minute at 100% clock speed

15 alien protein becomes 100 biomass lol

[plucky bone]

What do you pioneers use to keep you rails smooth on hills? tilted roofs? I got a rail but man it's a rollercoaster.

[jagged nymph]

that sounds like a fun ride

why change it

[valid sigil]

wish I could help but my trains are all nauseating to ride

[plucky bone]

It is fun. but too side swipey etc. Needs a bit of smoothing.

Hard on the eyes

And no time for a good straight pic.

[cold berry]

Cartograph is the mod I miss most in 1.2

Puts your buildings on the map

[coral marsh]

The entire functionality of the SCIM site needs to be added to the base game.

[gloomy tusk]

nikolai

you have returned

🥳

[reef basin]

I mean we have radar towers

[jagged nymph]

so people should be able to mass edit their save file in game?

[coral marsh]

Wait it can do that?

[proven snow]

Yea, can spawn or delete any items / buildings you want pretty much

[reef basin]

what other functionality were you talking about?

because most of the others we already have in the game

[proven snow]

Never toyed around with it much myself, but it's pretty nifty if you're into it

[reef basin]

(and even the save-editing we basically have in creative mode, or at least most of it)

[coral marsh]

Production planner

[reef basin]

that one is subpar at best tbh
no optimisation, no using multiple recipes, no support for loops and byproducts, no saving in browser...

[coral marsh]

Im just thinking, like a holographic layout of the production of an item, showing you how many machines you'll need.

(My mind gets ahead of itself when it comes to, "hey, what could be cool in the base game")

[reef basin]

I'd rather have better planners in there 😛

[unkempt blade]

there's already a calculator in game what more do we need?

[void cliff]

Is there a timer in game?

[unkempt blade]

you have to build a sundial using only what you have available in the game

[void cliff]

I’ll just keep using my egg timer next to my doggo figurine

[unkempt blade]

you should play however is fun but since that sounds like out of game help it's technically cheating

[spiral summit]

sacrificing my ability to use curve building mods and lumen just so i can build with cross beams 💔

[unkempt blade]

I was curious about what the function gained from crossbeams was. Are they much different that just using the square connector to make one in some way I'm not thinking of?

[floral sparrow]

Is there any way to stop modern railings from clipping when going around a corner?

[spiral summit]

architecture

crap i might need to use it now

i hope i dont corrupt my save by reverting from experimental

[unkempt blade]

better back it up lol

[spiral summit]

guess ill wait

[floral sparrow]

This is what I mean by it to clarify

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

better to ask those questions in #1038092680493801533 or #design-and-architecture where you can attach the image directly, rather than abusing #screenshots

[carmine ginkgo]

lets gooo. i finnaly automated power shards

[jagged nymph]

how many

[carmine ginkgo]

15/min

[jagged nymph]

nice

[floral sparrow]

Yeah, it just feels like overkill sometimes. Ideally I'd just be able to attach a screenshot here lol

[carmine ginkgo]

for the moment im limited by my belts because i have mk5 and i need more coal if i want to make more but right now with the coal nodes that are somwhat close this is my max. if i get belt 6 i can double it i think to 30/min

[jagged nymph]

if you turned all of them into ionized fuel it would only be 20gw by my calculations

[carmine ginkgo]

?

[split meadow]

hi guys, im new

[lean fossil]

So a factory basically automates every type of recipe one has right?

So if I make a steel FACTORY I have to automate every single recipe it has? or only the ones that involve steel.

[carmine ginkgo]

Ah i see. I forgot ionized fuel uses power shards.

[jagged nymph]

yeah ionized is so bad for power lol

[carmine ginkgo]

I'm set on power. I have a massive rocket fuel plant

[jagged nymph]

its barely better then rocket and is much more expensive

[carmine ginkgo]

With the alt recipe

Now I can overclock all my factories and like more than double everything

[lean fossil]

yo

[jagged nymph]

wha

[lean fossil]

So a factory basically automates every type of recipe one has right?
So if I make a steel FACTORY I have to automate every single recipe it has? or only the ones that involve steel.
[ARCH],
right?

[jagged nymph]

?

idk what you mean

[lean fossil]

A factory is automating everything that consists of that certain thing

[jagged nymph]

make the factory make the stuff you want it to make, usually stuff that shares common resources

[lean fossil]

RIGHT?

[jagged nymph]

if you want it to sure

[lean fossil]

So a STEEL FACTORY involves every single recipe?

[jagged nymph]

if you want it to sure

[carmine ginkgo]

I did that

[lean fossil]

I'm cooked

[lean fossil]

EVERY RECIPE or only a few ones

[carmine ginkgo]

All the items using the best recipe for that item i have

Mostly to avoid screws

Cause fuck screws

[lean fossil]

holdon fire guy let me dm you sum rq

[carmine ginkgo]

So I have a very big warehouse where I have 6 double storages for almost every single basic item

[lethal sandal]

i am not looking forword to new warehouse 2.0

[reef basin]

there's no "best" recipe tho

[jagged nymph]

the best recipe is whicever one is my favorite cause my opinion matters the most

[carmine ginkgo]

Best recipe that help me make my factory smaller without having smaller output

[reef basin]

then those involve screws

[next ivy]

there would be a best if you give us some parameters to optimize for

[carmine ginkgo]

Screws can burn in hell. If I can't avoid making those I will

[reef basin]

any specific reason?

[lean fossil]

#1486843695520022629 if any1 knows more recipes do tell

[lean fossil]

and if any other wyay to make iefficient

[mortal ginkgo]

funny enough, best reinforced iron recipe in your taste of "smaller with bigger output" asks for screws, which goes great with steel screws recipe.

[carmine ginkgo]

I use the recipe with wire because unlike screws I can make wire from the ingot straight away without having another step in the middle

[unkempt blade]

oh boy it's my time to shine - what you want is the best alt recipe in the game, cast screws

[carmine ginkgo]

That is pretty good if I need screws I would use that

[rough shore]

huh

[carmine ginkgo]

My factory where my supply for reinforced plates is made doesn't have other uses for screws but it does use wire so i just up the production of that

[cold berry]

Back to oil production, whee!!!

(I started over for 1.2)

My coal plants actually worked this time, as I think I designed them better. So I have high hopes for oil :p

I'm just going to process the oil on site and then have a truck or train that brings the fuel, plastic and rubber back. First time I've done that

[unkempt blade]

I probably wouldn't even move the fuel if it's just for power. Can make the generators right next to the factory

[sly herald]

what happens if i want to do a new save and turn on advanced game settings is it jsut for that save? what does it do?

[cold berry]

I wanted the fuel for rocket fuel. Question then, can I use fuel for my jetpack from my wireless storage... Drive ... Things?

[unkempt blade]

yes just for just that save, AGS is basically "cheat mode" stuff that prevent you from getting achievements during that save

[unkempt blade]

You need to move it from your DD to your inventory by hand still I think but it can go into the DD

[sly herald]

why does it keep saying seesion creation failure