satisfactory

[jagged nymph]

bro never heard of a manifold

[valid sigil]

learning manifolds changed my life fr

[lean fossil]

fell off the void and had to reload the save.

[jagged nymph]

you dont have keep everything turned on?

[honest summit]

can i get that dimensional storage thigny at phase 2 or is that a phase 3 thing

[jagged nymph]

you can get it in phase 1

[valid sigil]

all in the MAM right?

[honest summit]

ah alr thanks

[jagged nymph]

if you get steel from drop sites, but you need phase 2 if you want to automate the pipes

[lean fossil]

...

Isn't that cheating?

I thought there's achievements in the game and ion wanna lose em gng

[normal orbit]

its not a setting which affects achivements

[lean fossil]

can i turn it on rn

[normal orbit]

yes

[lean fossil]

I FOUND IT

ARACHNOPHOBIA MODE.

where is the thing though

found it

[gilded jolt]

Hey, I think I remember being able to straighten cables a while ago... But I can't do it anymore. Am I remembering wrong?

[little cobalt]

like power lines?

[gilded jolt]

yes!

like between two wall outlets

[little cobalt]

i don't think there is any option other than placing the power receptacles in straight lines

[normal orbit]

will still droop same amount, so they look more slack with two close nodes than two far ones

was a mod to straighten them

[gilded jolt]

I am almost certain we used to be able to set cables to straight rather than loose (never used mods)

but maybe I'm thinking of a different game

[normal orbit]

never been a vanilla feature

[gilded jolt]

daaamn, I don't know where that memory comes from lol

[lethal sandal]

hey, storage is supposed to spawn into a crate if it cant go into invintory right?

[jagged nymph]

Yes

[lethal sandal]

i think my game is broken again...

[jagged nymph]

It merges with other ones though, if you have one somewhere else in the world it will go into the existing one

[lethal sandal]

good to know

il have to find it someday

[jagged nymph]

Or I think it only merges with one's within a certain radius but the radius is like half the map

[jagged nymph]

It shows where they are in the map

[lethal sandal]

i know, but thats a ways away

[halcyon locust]

So I'm having some issues that I've never had before with the game (I'm on the most recent official release, not experimental). I can't change my game to windowed fullscreen or it will just permanently freeze, I can't stream it on discord or it will permanently freeze, I can't tab out of it at all or it will permanently freeze... is there anyone else who's had these issues? I verified the files and that did nothing.

[little cobalt]

you can turn off the merged crates if you prefer

[lean fossil]

im bein serious but how the flip do fluid pipes even work

[lethal sandal]

magic

[lean fossil]

junctions arent even letting out any output of my water

[feral vector]

Hmm I think I should have searched for hard drives earlier when the pool was smaller, I want iron wire and steel rotors lol

[serene jolt]

stitched iron plates or 6 inventory slots?

[reef basin]

they are bidirectional and kinda simulate physics inside

[lean fossil]

THEY DON WORK.

[reef basin]

whichever you want. There's never a wrong choice and you can get all recipes anyway

[reef basin]

then they are built wrong, not a fault of the pipes

[lean fossil]

how do i fix it.

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 post with screenshots and description of your problem

can't help you if your problem is "don't work"

[jagged nymph]

Since you didnt provide any info, im gonna assume the issue is that you're trying to send oil into a machine that needs water. That wont work. You need water in the pipe

[lean fossil]

i never even reached oil #1486506371401781319

Jumpscare warning btw

[feral vector]

Maybe I can just wait until t5 and spam hard drives to get the OP oil recipes?

Hmm when does the game consider you able to get t5 recipes from hard drives, do I gotta do a t5 milestone?

[reef basin]

neither

each recipe has its own requirement

[whole robin]

If i plan on not using quartz crystal for any alt recipes, are the only uses for them crystal oscillators and buildings? (Im only in phase 3, about to hit phase 4)

[jagged nymph]

!wikisearch quartz

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=quartz

[serene jolt]

should i not be finding quartz right away? like it was at spawn. doesn't seem mid game to me

[whole robin]

Not quartz, quartz crystal

[jagged nymph]

!wikisearch quartz crystal

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=quartz+crystal

[feral vector]

Alright thank you

If I reroll a hard drive it can roll anything I have access to at the moment?

[jagged nymph]

yes

but it cant get anything already cached in the hard drive ibrary

[feral vector]

Yeah I saw that tip thank you though. I've only found 4 I think I really don't explore much too addicted to factory stuff

[spiral summit]

real interesting stuff going on with these new vehicle physics

such as "levitation"

such as #screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

drone mk0

[lean fossil]

417 GAWD DAYUMN consumption

[spiral summit]

holy shit theres some insane glitch

with the legacy paths there might be a random invisible barrier that if interacted with teleports you to the vehicle thats on the path

i believe they finally fixed running out of vram though thats nice

[lean fossil]

ix the explorer faster than slide jumping with the leg upgrade?

[jagged nymph]

i think its faster but its worse

[lean fossil]

confusion

[little cobalt]

on flat ground it's faster

[lean fossil]

well yes I'm making a sky road

[spiral summit]

not with conveyors

[lean fossil]

I'm not placing a conveyor across the world and accurately move on it.

last time i did a conveyor I was dying

mentally and in gam

and is it possible to zoop more than 10m

[spiral summit]

what i do is i keep it selected with the dismantle tool and delete it while airborne

mmmm this daisy chaining is going to make everything look so much cooler

[frigid ore]

when is 1.2 coming out on full game?

[jagged nymph]

few months

[whole robin]

Its coming in negative 2 weeks from now

[frigid ore]

uhhhh

... mixed

ok thx

[feral jay]

Likely months, not weeks. It's a "It'll be released when it's ready" kind of deal.

[frigid ore]

ok thank you

[distant hill]

There's no way to know for sure when 1.2 comes to the main game, but based on past things... I would guess a 2 months?

[normal orbit]

they got an internal target date, but they aint telling that to us :p

[feral jay]

I'll install exp when most of my qol mods work

[normal orbit]

will prob be after some time its hit stable :p

[feral vector]

ok power towers are OP just for using to build far away and zipline to

[onyx jungle]

Hey guys any idea why my satisfactory keeps crashing at the main menu on Xbox?

[wise junco]

love me some power towers

[low current]

Does anyone else have massive start-itis? I love the game, but I'm on my 6th or 7th world so far & still haven't sent the 2nd batch of stuff up the Elevator. I get a tiny bit further each time, learn a little more, then get - bored? overwhelmed? - and start over, again and again. Last night I finally automated my first steel products, and now I'm itching for yet another restart.

[feral vector]

I refuse to restart lol all my hard work will be gone

[wise junco]

I've restarted a few times, but not that many. To each their own, though

[feral vector]

anything I can do in a new file I can do even easier in my current one 😛

[low current]

The saves are still there so I could go back if I ever change my mind - but I doubt that'll ever happen. They'll live in limbo until I need the hard drive space & have to start deleting things.

[simple wing]

I'm having trouble with keeping the flow in a pipe at max. i have a buffer right after a set of 5 pumps. any tips? playing 1.1

[elfin smelt]

don't use buffers

[wise junco]

buffers can goof with flow

[little cobalt]

progress slows down a lot after the first 2 phases and complexity also goes up. that's the game trying to get you to start automation (even very slow) then go explore while your factory cooks

[elfin smelt]

fluid buffers are really only useful only for fluid freight stations

iirc

[little cobalt]

i think it's worth sticking to a save and getting the goodies like jetpack (and good fuel) and hoverpack. but there's no wrong way to play as long as u have fun

[feral jay]

Wrong. Everyone who doesn't play this game my way, is playing it wrong.

[lethal sandal]

hey, is there any way to do diy tables?

[feral vector]

hmm I've been putting buffers at the end of my pipes for my coal plants I figured it couldn't hurt lol

[lethal sandal]

rip tps

[little cobalt]

in theory it should be fine to put buffers in your manifold. i usually do and have no problems

[feral vector]

I love that you can just build foundations without regards to physics, just made a crazy sky bridge up to this SAM

[low current]

I did go exploring more this last round, got my first SAM & Caterium nodes & a couple of pink slugs. And I finally figured out how to recolor machines so it wasn't all the same orange & black. Now if I could get it to change default colors instead of one by one... (I'll get it sooner or later.)

[little cobalt]

just make sure you aren't going up from them ideally

for making the complexity more approachable i recommend looking at your final recipe and working backwards

[lethal sandal]

rip asthetics

[feral vector]

I think it looks cool heh

[lethal sandal]

i dont, without pictures anyway

[jagged nymph]

my mouses battery is bout to run out

[tall lantern]

my toast is ready

[wise junco]

my mouses battery is ready

[wise junco]

i think your sky bridge is cool duder

[feral vector]

#screenshots message

thanks lol

easy to run a belt this way I'm getting impatient I wanna unlock depots

[wise junco]

GOOD. depots are gonna change your life

[jagged nymph]

sky bridge

[feral jay]

heh I've never built bridges, I just have rails and shit that levitate

I have a train station built over the void that I put some fans under pointing down to give it at least the illusion of the reality that it could hover there

[wise junco]

does global illumination cause some random stutter for y'all too? i just disabled it because i was trying to diagnose a stutter every 10 seconds or so and that seems to have been it

[feral jay]

Global illumination is cheating.

[jagged nymph]

??

[feral jay]

(I don't use it, my GPU is a bit underpowered for it)

[jagged nymph]

h

[wise junco]

it used to be fine, but i'm wondering if my building is scaling big enough that it's finally catching up

[little cobalt]

i don't like how dark it gets without lumen

[feral jay]

I can use it early game and I haven't had a problem with it then

[normal orbit]

That's ok. It uses CPU :p

[jagged nymph]

is you really factory if you not automate?

[feral jay]

That's exactly it, it's not so much that lumen is too much for my GPU, but that I'm forced to use a lot of lighting, which is too much for it

[feral vector]

running up hill is so slow, ziplines probably won't be any better going up a steep incline eh?

[jagged nymph]

they arent as fast as normal but still faster than walking

ziplines can go like completely vertical though

[wise junco]

imo, ziplines are great for early game elevation changes

[little cobalt]

it'll still be pretty quick, moreso if you take some momentum in with you

[normal orbit]

Parachute

[jagged nymph]

charapute

[feral jay]

You can also just build a new hub (if you delete the first one) and build it somwhere above you, and respawn

[feral vector]

ok running back up to set the power was worth it to slide down again wheeee

[little cobalt]

there's also ladders for cheap in the awesome shop

[feral jay]

First thing I buy, every game

[wise junco]

hmm, nevermind, GI didn't fix it anyway... just randomly my CPU is dropping to 0% utilization. this isn't good

[feral jay]

Followed next by power nipples

[feral vector]

did I just build foundation under the ground that I can't delete now lol

[wise junco]

thoroughly possible

[feral vector]

what lol

I bought the ladder but I always forget I have it

[feral jay]

I can't deal with that lol, it's like a splinter in my brain. Every time I do that I need to delete them with SCIM

[little cobalt]

i'm a sucker for conveyer holes + ceiling mounts

so nice to have your spaghetti hidden

[feral jay]

Wall outlets, I keep calling them power nipples

[feral vector]

oh god this is terrible things snap to them now

I was trying to not be lazy for once and build a foundation for my incoming belts

[prime orchid]

Is 78 hours good for just about to complete phase 3 it’s my second play though well my second world only just finished phase one in my first before I decided to start fresh in rocky desert

[feral jay]

This isn't a timed game, it really doesn't matter

And it heavily depends on your particular playstyle. I'm a very slow and methodical builder myself.

Part of the joy of this game is that it's a chill factory builder sandbox, and there's no time pressure at all

[little cobalt]

if you only finished phase 1 on your first world you're pretty much still a first timer. there's no rush and lots to learn :)

[feral vector]

I'm at like 60 hours and I haven't even found an oil node yet lol

[feral jay]

I'm over 4000 hours and some things still stump me.

[real shale]

Is 1500 hours good enough to complete phase 5?

Because that's the estimates for how long it's going to take me to complete it

[coral marsh]

i have nearly 600 hours on the game bud, i'm not even bothering to finish phase 5 yet

[coral marsh]

take as long as you want man there's no time limit

[real shale]

Alright 10k hours it is

[feral vector]

welp depots are pretty ass when you first get them, I can't even manual upload until I get computers 🙁

[feral jay]

Depots change everything, and don't let yourself think otherwise

[pure condor]

what do you all use to plan factories?

[lethal sandal]

is there a max speed for tubes?

[feral jay]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/

[pure condor]

thanks

[feral jay]

I don't think so. I have hypertubes fast enough that the forest doesn't render before I arrive. In a previous save I had some express tubes so blazing fast, the ground didn't have a chance to render before I got there, and I could fall to my death.

[lethal sandal]

thanks magic man

[feral vector]

alright I'm trying them out, I can only make 6 of them, or 3 of them and I can upgrade either upload speed or stack size hmm

[real shale]

My brain mostly but tools sometimes

[wise junco]

f a c t o r y

[feral vector]

I might upgrade upload speed first? one stack of everything is already pretty nice

[feral jay]

Ah, you need more Mercer spheres

[little cobalt]

they change everything eventually but when you first unlock them they are def underwhelming

[wise junco]

i personally also prioritize speed over stacks but that's just preference

[feral vector]

uhhh what 3 things yall think I should put depot uploaders on lol

[little cobalt]

explore and hope for some computers at crash sites as u accumulate the other artifacts

[feral vector]

I have been saying I'm gonna go explore for spheres and sloops and go towards where the oil is all day but I just keep doing factory stuff

[real shale]

Whatever it is you use the most, which is probably concrete

[feral jay]

My opinion might be coloured because they weren't a thing pre-1.0, so running back to base for mats took up an ungodly amount of time, even if you used construction trains

[feral vector]

hmm yeah concrete and steel beams for belts and foundations probably

[cursive crane]

Iirc its more just diminishing returns.

Something like around 9-15 entrances and anything past that is only small percentage gains

[real shale]

🦎

[lethal sandal]

i can taste the frames

[little cobalt]

with the base level DD you still kinda need to do that. 15/m of a handful of items doesn't mean very much. but eventually it becomes amazing for sure

[late shuttle]

How can I bring my copper up to my platform

[cursive crane]

Conveyors, vehicles, make a ramp and hike it up

[late shuttle]

Ok

[cursive crane]

We would need more information than that to properly advise the more optimal ways, but generally if its not a long distance and you are going up, conveyor lifts.

[feral jay]

With a catapault

[late shuttle]

Conveyor lifts ok

[cursive crane]

Depends how much you need to move, how far, and how fast

[late shuttle]

I’m new

[feral vector]

hmm I'm so used to keeping all this stuff in my inventory depots are gonna be weird

[little cobalt]

for now i'd still try to use your inv mostly tbh

[feral jay]

Yeah 1 stack and 15/min upload isn't a game changer, but 5 stacks and 240/min sure is

[little cobalt]

i like to build a container into a DD and fill it with a stack of every useful item i can think of first thing

for the "oh no i ran out of/forgot X thing" moments. u see purple and know you need to head back but can still finish your thought

[feral vector]

good idea I didn't think of that

[late shuttle]

It’s in screenshots

[feral vector]

might as well use my third uploader for a stack of everything besides beams and concrete

[little cobalt]

keep in mind it is very easy to clog when it is full

the easiest time is the beginning when u know the stock of each item is 0

[feral vector]

well at first if I put one stack of everything it won't clog right? then I can put depots for individual stuff later?

[little cobalt]

yup!

[feral vector]

thanks for the heads up though I would have been confused why it stopped working

[cursive crane]

Open the build menu and decide for yourself with the tools available to you.

[feral jay]

It won't clog with one stack of everything, no, but the moment you try to upload a second stack of something, it will

[cursive crane]

The miner has a conveyor output for a reason, start there

[lethal sandal]

hypertoobes are fun if laggy

[late shuttle]

Yea but idk how to get it across the terrain

[feral jay]

I build hypertubes everywhere

[cursive crane]

The games about experimention and learning, open the build menu and see what you have available. Theres lots of ways to do different things

If you are really lost, worst case you can always make a really long conveyor and upgrade later

[feral jay]

I almost never use any of the vehicles

[static gyro]

do storage contairs have less storage than personal storage boxes?

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch storage

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=storage

[feral vector]

they are big containers, personal storage ones are like a little chest, storage containers are like stuff you'd put on a train car lol

oh god uploading this stuff is gonna take forever

[feral jay]

!wikisearch storage container

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=storage+container

[cursive crane]

Personals have 1 additional slot with the trade off of not being able to automate
However you can stack bigger ones

Personal can be more dense but not automated

[late shuttle]

But like how do I get it over this canyon

[static gyro]

ahh okay ty, i just wanted to have a place to put a bunch of my bs lol

[feral vector]

I didn't realize they actually had more storage that's hilarious

[cursive crane]

Build a platform or something, or just stretch it over.

[feral jay]

Movement challenges are an integral part of the game. Try building foundations, using power lines and ziplining, the jetpack, ladders, parachutes... there's myriad ways

[feral vector]

go around, build a bridge? you have foundations right

[cursive crane]

If its equipment and such, the DD is a lot better.

[feral vector]

you can play this game like fortnight lol foundations are absurd

[static gyro]

DD?

[cursive crane]

Check the MAM

[feral jay]

!wikisearch dimensional depot

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=dimensional+depot

[static gyro]

oh that thing

ive honestly never used it

[feral jay]

Cloud storage for your shit

[feral jay]

You should

[late shuttle]

Ok

[cursive crane]

The dimensional depot is a gamechanger, if you arent immediately rushing to build it as soon as possible, you are wasting time in your save

[static gyro]

idk why i never did on my first playthrough.. maybe ill do it on the file im on rn but i cant find any SAM

[cursive crane]

Would you like me to spoil an easy location for it?

[static gyro]

thats exactly what im doing, i watched a playthough and saw how useful it was so i want to get it now lol

[minor cedar]

guys how do i limit my inputs in satisfactory tools

[static gyro]

i mean ive already seen what it does so i guess it doesnt hurt lol, im in the second place you can start off with, the desert with trees and stuff

[minor cedar]

i want to limit inputs to whatever output and see because sometimes getting a required output requires the weirdest splits

[cursive crane]

Rocky desert or dune desert?

[static gyro]

rocky

[cursive crane]

||Which area did you start in?

Grass Fields: There's one at the bottom of the pit under the giant arch.
Rocky Desert: Near the four coal nodes on the eastern edge of the area is a cave entrance. Inside the cave is a SAM node (and two three quartz nodes) that nobody can ever find by scanning.
Northern Forest: Head north to the Spire Coast. There's an impure node on the northwest point and a pure node over on the northeast side.
Dune Desert: On top of the mountains on the western edge of the biome. It's the northernmost one, right by the crash site.||
Courtesy of a guy on reddit

[static gyro]

good ol reddit, thanks!

[feral jay]

You can also unlock scanning for SAM with the object scanner at some point

[little cobalt]

it's very deep into the game

i feel like you do come across them naturally if you explore a lot (and especially if you hypertube cannon) but i can't blame you for wanting it asap

[late shuttle]

I did it!

Thx

[cursive crane]

It is really weird how late the scanning is for how soon you could use it for the DD research

Ig the scanning comes with a higher need for it, but 🤷‍♂️

[late shuttle]

Now I go demolish everything

[cyan leaf]

Wouldn't the iron pipe alt like superior then the base one?

[cyan leaf]

(Aka the steel pipe alt that uses iron ingots)

[little cobalt]

it's a lot more convenient if you only need a few

i wouldn't call it a completely better recipe though

[weak bloom]

I did not realize how rough it would be to send 1200/min via a single train car so I might have to rip down part of this train network and just belt it @_@

it's up in the red forest and one segment of it is short enough that 2 trains might not actually work well enough to get a single station up to 1200/min

it can handle 780/m just fine but I don't think it can expand 🙁 I'll try adding a second train when I get mk6 belts and see if it actually works but doing the math it seems unlikely

[cyan leaf]

Why only just a few? It makes slightly more then the base recipe and the other alt for it is to weird

[weak bloom]

should probably have assumed that I would need 2 cars for a single 1200 resource and built with that in mind tbh

[late shuttle]

What tier 2 thin* is more important

[cyan leaf]

If u hahe plenty of time just sky Bridge it if tight on space

[floral sparrow]

For those who have played multiplayer, do you find Satisfactory more fun with 2 or 3 players? I'm only at tier 4 myself and want to get friends into the game

[inner ruin]

no because no one else builds the way i like it

[wise junco]

second train? or is there a very very short distance that would just cause chaos?

[feral vector]

damn first time really exploring and this game is beautiful

the movement and the world design are both so impressive, I didn't expect either to be good in a factory game

nice to have a hand crafted world to run around

[weak bloom]

#screenshots message
green line I can add a second train and I think it MIGHT be able to get 1200/m. I need to add a second train just BARELY to make it get 780/m right now

red line is so short that it can get 780/m with a single train but adding a second one might add enough downtime that it may cause an issue with 1200/m....I'm not sure, will have to test it

if anything I'll just belt the resources from the red line along the train track and let the green one keep going

[wise junco]

it seems tricky for sure

[weak bloom]

this was a good lesson though, for future train networks I'm gonna plan for at most ~600/m for a 100 stack item per car

[twin parcel]

how do u reduce cpu usage? it overheats my laptop .

[feral jay]

You can't, really. It's a CPU intensive game

It helps to build smaller factories and more of them, spaced far apart

[twin parcel]

any graphic settings or buildings that spike cpu usage?

[feral jay]

Maybe using fewer windows so the engine can occlude some things and not render them, but that's more of a gpu thing

But really the only way I can think of that makes any measurable difference is to build smaller factories, more of them, and farther apart

[twin parcel]

hmm , my gpu usage is around 70% , which is normal when running a game , but cpu to 70% , thats new to me .

[feral jay]

heh yeah, this game is CPU bound, not GPU

[feral vector]

I finally go explore and I forget to bring my scanner

I'm 100% making a power tower zipline back to base lol

[twin parcel]

hmm , worried that 80 degree celcius will fry my laptop .

[feral vector]

maybe I should try hyperloops

[feral jay]

It works well for me because I have a 2070, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, but an AMD2950X, which has 16 cores, and this game massively takes advantage of multiple cores

[twin parcel]

ah , im using ryzen 7 8845HS , it has 8 cores . and rtx 4050 .

[feral jay]

Yeah this game should run smooth as butter for you

Well actually I don't know that CPU so don't quote me on that

[twin parcel]

i guess i gotta do something with overheating issue , high quality thermal paste maybe

[feral jay]

It could be. Depending on the CPU, thermal throttling could show up as high CPU usage

A quick test would be putting it on a laptop cooling pad with active cooling fans and see if there's any measurable difference

In my case the bottleneck is usually Wine, but that's specific to Linux

[little cobalt]

because you don't need coal or foundries. iron pipe costs 20 iron ingots for 5 pipes, so 4:1 iron ingots/ore. with basic steel recipes it costs 3 iron ore and 3 coal for 2 pipes, so 1.5:1 for iron ore and coal.

you can take the steel efficiency even further with the solid steel alt, taking you to a 1:1 ratio

[feral jay]

@twin parcel also, #off-topic-tech might be a better place to have a larger conversation about game performance, and mybe mention in this channel that you're looking for ideas there

[prime orchid]

Can anyone give any suggestions on what to scale up yet I have modular frames at 60/min motors at 20/min circuits at 10/min and steel pipes and steel plates or beams at 45/min then steel reinforced beams the ones with concrete at 50/min these

I’m just about to complete phase 3 need to start making motors and them sphere things

[feral jay]

Sure, quadruple everything

[twin parcel]

maybe scale up ur power plant first when u have oil unlocked?

[coral marsh]

50 computers per minute using the crystal computers alt recipe

[prime orchid]

Hahaha I know I need to but power wise I’m along way off yet only got 8gw of power

[feral jay]

Oh wow, then power should be your priority right now

You gonna need around 50GW to even get started with teir 9, so don't hold back

[prime orchid]

Got oil it’s giving me about 3gw cause I’ve had it unlocked for about a week irl just haven’t gotten into it as I’ve been building the aforementioned factory’s

[twin parcel]

using diluted packaged fuel?

[prime orchid]

That’s good to know cause looking at the recipe planner thing it says I need about 50 gw to get 1/min of the three items I need to complete phase 3 even though I already have 2 of them done might aswell rebuild and make it better

[prime orchid]

Just fuel straight from refinery to gas gen then plastic being created after that from the pellets

[feral jay]

Start planning out a massive power plant around this point in the game. Like build one for 20GW or so, but design it in such a way that it's not insurmaountable to quadruple it, as your power requirements grow

[feral vector]

is hyperloop much faster than just ziplining?

[prime orchid]

Okay thank you

[feral vector]

planning for stuff like expanding that much is too crazy for me lol

I guess if you make your power modular you can just chunk more on there like I did with blocks of 8 coal gens and 3 water extractors

alright maybe I'll try hyperloop to get back to base from these oil nodes

[little cobalt]

there's lots of oil nodes, it's fine to leave your inefficient stuff in place and build better ones concurrently

[twin parcel]

ah , use heavy oil residue alt + diluted packaged fuel , 900/min crude oil should give u about 2400/min packaged fuel , u can sink the resin or add water to make plastic , then use excess fuel and plastic to make rubber .

[prime orchid]

Thank you I’ll do that then I do have is it turbo fuel or rocket fuel whichever is the next one up unlocked

[feral vector]

I forgot encased industrial beams so no refinerys for me rip

[feral jay]

This game, I started my big turbofuel plant with 20GW worth of turbofuel generators (so 80), but I built it all out in such a way that it wasn't a huge deal to eventually scale that up to 80GW and 320 generators

When I need more I'm not sure yet whether I'll go with rocket fuel or nuclear

[fossil cargo]

is it just me or does anyone else think the alien DNA capsule looks drinkable

[cloud wolf]

Yes

[fossil cargo]

it looks like a weird jug full of chocolate pudding

[cloud wolf]

Strawberry

[feral jay]

@fossil cargo holy crap I love your username

[inner ruin]

take one for the team. drink it and tell us if its drinkable

[feral jay]

It's so simple and says so much

[cloud wolf]

Wha about me

And my pfp

[feral jay]

Well I don't get the reference, so you fail

Or I fail

Take your pick

[feral vector]

lol I tried to be cheesy and load a save to see if I got different recipes from a hard drive but it must lock in what you get when you start the ten mins

[spare prism]

I need help finding the doggo cave

[plucky bone]

Did you know it matters what end of a connection you start at with a belt, the shape changes on straight. Such a nice feature.

[feral vector]

hmm can you explain this a bit more please? straight seems to fight with me half the time

[plucky bone]

When you use straight, but it isn't straight lined up the curve changes where it is and so on depending if you start at one connection or the other. I take a pic and show you in #design-and-architecture

[unkempt blade]

Inhaler Flavor Ranking:

1. Nutritional Inhaler
2. Protein Inhaler
3. Therapeutic Inhaler
4. Vitamin Inhaler

[coral marsh]

you're wrong, they're vapes

(i just made it up lol)

[unkempt blade]

same science applies, thatt's why my list is correct

[steel flare]

hey can anyone help me with blueprints im not sure whats going wrong 🙏 #satisfactory-experimental

[burnt heath]

Is the game possible to beat with all of the cost multiplier settings introduced in 1.2 cranked up to the max?

[feral vector]

ty 🙂

[plucky bone]

Ye.

[feral vector]

recycled rubber is one of the OP recipes right

[plucky bone]

Finally almost done. Was gonna smash the starter place but I replaced it all nice and orderly as I could. I should take notes so I know what order for my storage next time.

[unkempt blade]

all things are possible if you believe in yourself

[sterile blade]

What makes you think it might not be possible?

[burnt heath]

well you need 100,000 nuclear pasta, 100,000 biochemical sculptors, 25,000 AI expansion servers, and 20,000 ballistic warp drives for the final phase, while ALSO having to deal with every step of the production process exponentially requiring more and more resources, topped off with 5x power comsumption

[sterile blade]

Well, yeah... But the items needed for spelevator deliveries (and milestones) are fixed amounts, not per minute amounts ^^
Ie: even producing each at 1/min, you can eventually finish the game

[burnt heath]

in like 9000 hours bro

like yeah it's possible but I was more asking if anyone will ever do it

[sterile blade]

People usually build more than just "1/min" of each spelevator part 😉
That's where the challenge comes in

For those who find the normal amounts excessive already, we can even make them lower now~ (was the minimum 0.5x?)

[burnt heath]

well honestly achieving much more than that is already incredibly hard thanks to the 2x recipe costs you would have to deal with

[burnt heath]

yeah you can do that

[simple wing]

i figured out my water problem. however it means all the pipes i laid before are useless and will have to feed the water from above.😭 there goes a few hours of plumbing work.

[crimson sundial]

Yoo, they killed my boy beetle within the Experimental menu screen 😭 lmao he was crossing fluid truck path and got ran over

[sterile blade]

To put it into a "biggus factorus" perspective...
2x recipe cost leads to a max production of (very roughly) ~20 to 30/min of each final spelevator part (no slooping). 20/min would be enough to fill the biggest shipment (100k) in ~83 hours ^^

[burnt heath]

each project assembly part is like 5 production steps minimum with the best alt recipes, and even that is 32x cost built up over each step so even 20/min would be very hard to achieve

[unkempt blade]

just need to use more screws and it'll be no problem

[sterile blade]

I reckon that such multipliers make it a bit more appealing to build one factory for each spelevator part only to destroy it and repurpose the ores for another spelevator factory (so you can pump out a lot more spelevator parts/min)

[sterile blade]

Oh, right, I forgot that one must multiply on each step 😅
Cut the per/min numbers accordingly 😅

[burnt heath]

if you want to make 5 million screws/min then sure

[sterile blade]

Which, ironically, is a milestone that someone beat already (iirc)

Making 5 mil screws, that is

[burnt heath]

Yeah I've seen that

on the other hand, would that mean having as many production steps as possible would be optimal for the 0.5x recipe cost setting or am I thinking about it the wrong way?

[sterile blade]

You are correct.
Eg: standard screws better than cast screws

Though, the devs did think ahead and made it impossible to get "free resources" via production loops (like those involving Packagers)

[spare prism]

guys i need help finding the 3rd nest#screenshots message

[sterile blade]

#satisfactory-memes message @serene jolt If you haven't got an answer already: the "straight" building mode can missbehave on belt segments that are already straight (ironically); the fix is usually to change building mode

[bitter dust]

yo

im doomguy

[feral vector]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-thumbs-up-gif-13684011490947959172

[honest summit]

i cant find my save file in my folder anyone know where its stored

[swift turret]

`File Locations (PC Players)
Where are save files located?
%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

It’s a good practice to back your saves up regularly (especially if you are using cloud saves) by copying them to another location.

Where are screenshots located?
%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\FactoryGame\Screenshots

Where are the Blueprint files located?
%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\Blueprints

Please note that Blueprints are not cloud synced. `

check https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/670203778712076288

[smoky flame]

I really want to try out the infinite nudge mod, I don't have any mods but if I do get mods, does that mean achievement is disabled?

[warm finch]

no

[quick nexus]

I never knew this until a minitue ago but theres a very small chance for the train to make a diffrent honk when honking

[real shale]

hmmmmm

94.4604 modular frames/min

[swift turret]

infinite nudge is already vanilla

unless you mean infinite zoop

[smoky flame]

Smaller nudges

[plucky bone]

Can you apply swatches as you build?

[feral vector]

lmao I tried hypertubes and was underwhelmed then I tried them with 10 entrances and holyyyy

[simple wing]

How come when i stand here and watch my pipes they work, but i walk away and I lose pressure and my blenders go idle

?

[feral vector]

they must be scared of you

sorry if I had anything helpful to say I would lol

[simple wing]

you're good. every time i think it's working, it's not lol

[feral vector]

I'm the wrong guy to ask, I had to debug some coal gens earlier and it took me way too long to realize a whole pipe was missing cause I didn't add it between blueprints

isn't there some feature that connects blueprints now?

[warm finch]

turn off your blenders and have everything fill up pipewise. then turn your blenders back on

[west jackal]

gah, i decided to make a tiny rf plant, who knew that placing over 400 fuel generators would be a pain in the ass

[floral sparrow]

I just noticed that that the bases of two modern railings perpendicular at a corner slightly clip into each other, causing a jittery shading effect. It's small but now I can't not notice it

[warm finch]

"full pipes are happy pipes"

[simple wing]

I had tried this but i waited until blenders were full. i didn't check the pipes

[warm finch]

make sure whatever is feeding the blenders are backed up as well

and make sure you're not exceeding your pipe limit or your production cap (of whatever is feeding the blenders). double check your math

[simple wing]

is it a bad idea to try and max out the pipe? i.e. 6 diluted fuel blenders to 1 mk2 pipe

[feral vector]

I managed 360/min on mk1 pipes for 8x coal gens but that was with the inputs split up a specific way, or a loop works too I think

[warm finch]

Not a bad idea. but if you're operating at the very edge of pipe limits, you will need to add in a feedback loop. Blenders release fuel in pulses/batches. if the pipe is full when a blender needs to push a new batch out, it can't and will back up until there's room in the pipe, then it does it again, which creates a slosh effect with cascading larger and larger impact (like a domino effect) working it's way down the pipe until you get sizable airgaps throughout the pipe that it causes things to shut down

that "feedback loop" will act as an internal buffer of sorts to minimize the impact of the sloshing as blenders cycle up and down

[feral vector]

do I need a packager to deal with the heavy oil residue byproduct of making rubber or plastic??

pretty sure I'm just tired and not paying attention

[simple wing]

feedback loop is where i just connect the ends of the pipe or is it a separate feed?

[warm finch]

yes, location is key. what are you feeding the diluted fuel to?

[simple wing]

its my water supply im struggling with

[plucky bone]

Finally satisfied with the starter place. Now to move on. Threw a few pics up.

6Hrs later....

[warm finch]

oh then how are you feeding the water? how many extractors?

[feral vector]

that looks awesome, cool spot for the space elevator

[warm finch]

water input is different because water extractors run constantly

[plucky bone]

Thanks. I even made it so the manta goes under it.

[fiery pewter]

if there is space in the pipe system

[plucky bone]

Pure luck though not skill there.

[warm finch]

probably my favorite picture/meme I've made so far: https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/456117300446232578/1486257451157426218

[plucky bone]

Still gonna put the HUB there somewhere maybe. Or like a sattelite maybe.

[west jackal]

Woah I didnt know you knew fluids like that

[simple wing]

i've brought all the way to the top of blue crater. 45 extractors + 1 to bring the water up and back down to get the right height. made it higher than my pipes feeding the blenders

every 5 exractors feeds 6 blenders

[west jackal]

You're doing diluted with blenders?

Are you doing tf, rf?

[feral vector]

mine is so janky in comparison I posted it lol

[fiery pewter]

The same as diluted with refineries but then without the packaging

[simple wing]

rf

or at least setting it up

[plucky bone]

Pretty realistic I'd say. I noticed cool things with pipes. Gonna be fun. I'm getting into that stuff now.

[west jackal]

You dont have to, but id recommend setting up a blueprint that has refinery and 2 blenders, with oc you can setup to take 75 crude 200 sulf 100 coal water and 150 nitrogen (with nitro rf) and then not worry about the pipes. Just have the 300 rf going out on mk2 pipe

Also, because I am working on my small one with DeafBringer, if you clock gens at 240 %each fuel gen takes 10 rf/min (credit to USBeefalo)

[plucky bone]

Not bad. Gotta start somewhere. Remember I am 180+ hrs in. And not touched anything past MK 4 belts/stuff. Have some cool things but not yet. Wanted all the fixings fully stocked and produced first.

[warm finch]

you might be having headlift issues? may be more beneficial to do 2 extractors OC 250% to each pipe of 6 blenders.

[plucky bone]

I also have a basement under there. Mostly belts on the roof and my depots are there. I purposely made the floor so most miners there (4 below) only the power connector sticks through the floor. 2 are 4 M above and 2 on the top)

[simple wing]

i did the single extractor and 3 mk2 pumps to make the head lift for the whole thing

[warm finch]

you might have headlift issues somewhere

[plucky bone]

Now for the hardest part. Trains.... Need to bring 3 items in from far.

[twin parcel]

is it possible for the conveyor monitor to glitch?

[plucky bone]

Trucks for close be easy

[twin parcel]

it says 481/min on a mk4 belt , i was like where the extra one came from

[plucky bone]

Should I change the foundations?

[warm finch]

trains are super easy

[plucky bone]

They are stock

[feral vector]

yeah I was gonna fix it more but I got impatent and went and got SAM for the depot then explored to find some oil

[plucky bone]

Did I do something wrong? I am on the grid with my blueprint builder. on foundations but It's too high or low by a half a small nudge. I build it hold on.

[feral vector]

I have a little bit of belts underneath the foundation, that worked good for stuff that had to go across production lines. I just left the spaghetti on the one side, it all feeds into a sushi line that gets sorted into storage or sink so meh good enough

[plucky bone]

That's how I started

O Oops. Ya the ground is not "On grid" haha figured it out

Foundation, place and delete

So I would imagine the arrow is forward for train stuff?

[spare prism]

😴 sleep time

[simple wing]

connecting the ends seems to have fixed my problem

ty

[glacial totem]

Hello I'm pretty new into the game is there any way to "zoom out" when constructing buildings? Like the silhouette takes up my whole screen when building something like a smelter. Scrolling mouse wheel just rotates?

[swift turret]

you'd have to use a lookout tower

or wait until later for better equipment

like phase 3 - 4

[glacial totem]

Thanks

The step up from hand-mining ore to having a mining tower feeding a smelter feeding a production feeding a storage unit was a huge high

[swift turret]

theres a lot to this game you will learn to love as you progress

[glacial totem]

I would say I'm already Satisfactory-pilled

[feral vector]

lol run now it's too addictive

[plucky bone]

You will get used to it. Your best friend will be the H and ctrl bottons then arrow keys to nudge.

[glacial totem]

I'm enjoying figuring things out without a wiki too.

[plucky bone]

And R for single/zoop

straight curve etc.

I find the scale hard.

[feral vector]

I'm trying to not look stuff up too much but that's how I play everything lol

[glacial totem]

I'm coming from Dark Souls so that's not always possible

[feral vector]

I can ruin my first playthrough if I go too hard with research trying to chill for this game

but like... I would have never figured out manifolds if I didn't look at some tips videos

[plucky bone]

Same. I just look at the keybinds first usually when I start a game. Then mash buttons and cuss.

[feral vector]

my brain kinda figured out load balancing as a default method though which works fine

[plucky bone]

Uh I still have no clue what's what between all the sayings. I just make what works.

What they mean actually*

[feral vector]

@swift turret can't type in screenshots chat heh.

I made a blueprint with 8 smart splitters that put stuff into storage and the overflow went back into a sushi line for the sink. but most of it got dismantled ahaha I just ignore the belts

that blueprint was kinda awesome in theory but in practice you can just use a sushi line for input and output for a group of containers

[feral vector]

manifold is just a line of splitters, the first one fills up first, then the second.... load balancer is like take a belt with 120 input, split it once into two 60s, then split those into two 30s and feed them to smelters

[plucky bone]

Ah. I judt do the math and touch it up after if needed.

just*

Balance then I would say

[thorny rampart]

Is the "I know what you are" color filter in the camera mode a reference to something?

[winged crescent]

Heyyy i have a question:
My lizzard doggo doesnt show up anymore (yes i tamed him), any idea why?
I miss my little solar destroyer 🥹

[fiery pewter]

What

[fiery pewter]

They run off from time to time, not quite sure if they return

That ain't automation you just have hundreds if not thousands of them 😭

Tf

[winged crescent]

Wdym 😭

[fiery pewter]

Gah dayum

[fiery pewter]

The only lizard doggo I ever tamed just randomly ran off one day

[winged crescent]

Oh man

💀

[magic sinew]

i just realised i have to enable experimental for the experimental update

[winged crescent]

Theire my best friends bro i dont enslave em

[fiery pewter]

That is the same as pulling on a door that says "push" on it

[magic sinew]

more like trying to walk straight through

[fiery pewter]

"Open the inventory by pressing E"
blankly stares at screen

[stark blade]

i know it sounds weird but like
we already have a decentily detailed and well made backround islands that we cant get too
why not just make them into a map expantion update someday?

cos yes i have nuked myself so hard i have seen em up close
however
it would be cool to see them become part of the map

[cursive crane]

A good background is PART of the map design. If they would simply extend to those, then they would need more background beyond there. Again just moving the goalposts on that, its not as simple as just.. extending the border and putting flora on it either. The entire map has been crafted to have a purpose, any extension would then have to follow the same scheme

[stark blade]

yeah sorry im not exactily a game dev but i do know it definitialy wouldent be easy to do

would be cool to eventuialy see smth like that tho

[cursive crane]

I think if they were to give us more map of any sort, having a planet or moon or something you would use the space elevator to transport to would be the coolest option, and wouldn't sully the original map, they could then make an entirely new thing that they could craft any way they wanted.

probably wouldnt happen anytime soon, but would be the better way of going about it.

[stark blade]

yeah in all honesty that would make a lot more sence

[cursive crane]

They've stated it took 6+ years to complete the current map, to invest that kind of time into a dlc or free content update would be insane

I havent seen it myself yet so no spoilers Lol

[stark blade]

neither have i lol

i just watched others vids

[real shale]

lizard

[stark blade]

lizard

[feral vector]

tf are you spoiling shit for, do you not see the story spoilers channel

[cursive crane]

If youve played something like foundry or factorio, they have cool ideas on "whats after" that a cool coffee stain twist on would be good to see

[cursive crane]

Not the same lizard but yes
Lizard

[stark blade]

jeez bro sorry
im not exactily a big public server nerd :/

[stark blade]

wouldent put it past them to pull that kinda twist tho

[cursive crane]

Delete it or put spoilers on it

[feral vector]

nothign to do with being a nerd you're a moron dude

[stark blade]

hold please

[cursive crane]

You dont gotta be so aggressive, if you would communicate nicely hes already changing it

[feral vector]

that doesn't unspoil me, dude is an ass

[stark blade]

idk how to edit spoilers into an existing message :/

[stark blade]

if i am an ass for making an axident
then ur also an ass for yellin at me for it :/

[cursive crane]

If you put || on either side of something it adds a spoiler

[stark blade]

ah ok thanks 👍

[feral vector]

how do you accidentally explain the end

[stark blade]

and how do you go and keep finding ways to complain

i fixed my mistake and you are still going on about it

and it existed for all of abt 2 miniutes so its not like the whole server saw it

[cursive crane]

He already apologized, move on.

Its not like its something completely a suprise, you can guess that simply from finishing the first phase, he didnt completely ruin much

[feral vector]

how does that change me seeing it lol

[stark blade]

and?

[feral vector]

cause you're saying dumb shit still, how do you accidentally type a sentence

and you're an ass lol

if you're too stupid to avoid spoilers in the main chat good luck with this game

[stark blade]

bro i did not expect ppl on the satisfactory discord server of all places to still continue to be assholes over nothing 😭

[cursive crane]

Nah, this guy doesnt represent us

[stark blade]

i know
however i also dident expect to see ppl like that in a comuinity like this

[cursive crane]

Communities better than this, you apologized, all you can do

[stark blade]

amazing comuinity amazing ppl and one amazing ass ruining it XD

[feral vector]

god forbid someone be annoyed they have shit spoiled

[stark blade]

yeah its not like a bace a comuinity of one guy being a pain
i know practicialy all of you guys are amazing ppl who are capable of building amazing things
however dear god this sj guy is being anoying 😭

[cursive crane]

No reason to keep throwing personal insults at someone after they apologized for a mistake

[stark blade]

speedrun the game and confirm what i said then
means you get to the ending quicker anyway

or just yk

look up

[stark blade]

anyway thanks for ya help lol

-# now anyway i needa go clean up the pieces of walnut i sent flying across the room at mach jesus while tryanna crack it-

[feral vector]

I hope you miss a piece and step on it and it hurts like a lego 😛

[stark blade]

heh

the fact you act like u have no dad-

[feral vector]

actual genius lol thanks for the insight

I have a dad he's kind of an ass though that might be it

[plain marten]

ugh im procrastinating starting a new save because i cant figure out what kind of style i am going to do

and waiting for 1.2

[coral marsh]

after some really good fun and thanks to a certain couple mods, i have discovered that mk5 bladerunners will propel you to 180KPH, twice the speed of an Explorer on ionized fuel
using a long mk6 belt, this speed increase to a staggering 281KPH

[autumn juniper]

Did they ever fix the explorer back to having it's grippy tires like before or nah in 1.2?

[feral vector]

That sounds awesome lol

[coral marsh]

it's so much fun lol

[feral vector]

I just got the hypertube working properly speed is fun

[coral marsh]

also found out that if you let a hyper tube human launcher loop build up, the maximum velocity you can achieve is the speed of sound, 1 thousand, 2 hundred and 25 Kph

[feral vector]

I haven't tried a loop I just had ten entrances and it's already so fast

[coral marsh]

there is a mod that removes this restriction, but i am unsure if i want actual game breaking speeds lol, the map isn't actually massive and it's super easy to cross it at just 180Kph

[feral vector]

Yeah you would just fly off the map wouldn't you?

[coral marsh]

knowing the base game's maximum velocity however is the speed of sound, is a great metric and a reasonable amx value to set as default

[coral marsh]

oh absolutely

you can exceed some insane values by stacking pulse bombs under you but that also breaks the game

[smoky flame]

Gosh I really hate conveyer lifts, so buggy and clunky, but it's the only good way to build vertically

[coral marsh]

also, if the value readout for respawning is to be believed, then what seems as to be teleportation back to the hub, isn't actually teleportation, just insanely high movement speeds, 8,144Kph or Mach 10.6 (10.6 times the speed of sound, sub hyper-sonic) speeds

holy Sh!t, i just hit 1,736Kph on a sky launch

[twin parcel]

which produces more sopper ingots ? pure copper or copper alloy ?

[twin parcel]

10 ? i thought 5 was enough .

[wind ore]

if y'all were me would you choose steel rod or steel rotor

[swift turret]

steel rotor

rods can be made easy

rotors are a pain

[fossil oyster]

Pure Copper Ingot wins every time

[hard ivy]

You can also remove rods almost completely with alts
If you want to for some reason

[fossil oyster]

Steel Rotor + Stator = just iron pipes and wires, perfect

[wind ore]

if i dont get one recipe eventually it will come back in the future right?

[fossil oyster]

My Very Large factory uses 0 rods/screws

[hard ivy]

Yeah you can get all alts eventually

[wind ore]

oh theres enough hard drives for every recipe?

[swift turret]

yes

and in the MAM

[hard ivy]

And a few extras

[fossil oyster]

I have like 5 hard drives sitting in my storage, not doing anything

[wind ore]

this is nice

[fossil oyster]

Some alt recipes are so good I feel like it's pointless to build factories without some of them

[swift turret]

Modular pipes my beloved

I think thats what its called

[fossil oyster]

That doesn't exist

Iron Pipe?

[swift turret]

its the modular frames with pipes

[hard ivy]

Heavy encased frame

[fossil oyster]

Steeled Frame

[swift turret]

yeah that

I didnt know it existed for so long and it fixed everything

[fossil oyster]

Yeah that one is just broken lol. Never used anything else

Make HMF with just iron and limestone, pure bliss

[feral vector]

Maybe you need less for a cannon? I use them to speed through a long tube 🤔

[wind ore]

and if i dont want any recipe i can just leave them without selecting and they wont show in the future right

[normal orbit]

ya

[feral vector]

Yeah both options are locked out of the reward pool

I just got a hard drive with +6 inventory space that seems kinda nice since my depot is still not upgraded 🤔

[plucky bone]

O No. I made 2 lines going the same way. Should it have been one one way one 180 rotated?

Train

Yup. Oops.

[keen flame]

hello chat

yet another mobile discord update omg

[keen flame]

HUH

scanning can give you inventory space?

[keen flame]

you can still connect them where they end

by making a large circle

[plucky bone]

You can?

[keen flame]

yeah there’s no limits to what you can do as long as you don’t derail them

i rly should make more trains and stations

[keen flame]

is it like a

specific alt recipe

that does that

[plucky bone]

Phew.

This one's all perty. I used 2 blueprints one rail pillar one power tower w/plattform. Had to adjust them 3 times but.

[hard ivy]

It's a specific roll, yes
Instead of an alt recipe, it can offer you +6 inventory slots.

[keen flame]

that’s rly cool i’ll try to get that

thx

[wind ore]

is there any alt recipe regarded as a must have

[fossil oyster]

Heavy Encased Frame, Heavy Oil Residue, (Packaged) Diluted Fuel, Recycled Rubber/Plastic

Ah yeah, Encased Pipes goes well with Heavy Encased Frames

[hard ivy]

Imo it's about as useful as biocoal and charcoal

[fossil oyster]

What's a screw? I haven't started a new game in 800hrs

[wind ore]

ill definitely get that since it make steel ratio a lot better

[hard ivy]

Yeah I only need a couple thousand screws total before T3 and then I ain't making a single one more
Don't need an alt for that

[plucky bone]

Do the pros do a double back junction at an end of the line stop?

Does that work?

[fossil oyster]

There is no line stop

[clever pier]

why does every one get so mad about screws. just use the steel screw alt and you get 260 / minute from a single machine before you overclock

[supple canopy]

all of them, there is no "best" recipe, you must shun any alt recipe tier list you come across

[hard ivy]

I get it asap
Same with iron wire

[fossil oyster]

Except there is!

[hard ivy]

That's an even bigger waste of resources and space than cast screws

[plucky bone]

Where a line would end. Not carry on. 2 rails side by each all the way then looped back to themselves. Like a teardrop kind of with a straight side.

[clever pier]

don't try and make screws in one spot and distribute, just make them immediately before the machine that needs them

[supple canopy]

people who hate on screws are normies who haven't unlocked anything past mk3 belts. Once you get even mk4 belts, recipes including screws are perfectly fine

[clever pier]

how is it a waste of space when I feed it directly into the machine that needs them

[keen flame]

ngl i have bazillion steel ingots i could do with turning some into screws

[clever pier]

steel is iron + coal its not exactly expensive

[supple canopy]

which one and why is it quartz purification?

[plucky bone]

I like screws. Small sore spot but figure it out ya know. Cast screws rocks

[sterile blade]

It literally takes twice the production steps to get to Steel Ingots compared to Iron ^^
Also twice the materials

[keen flame]

my issue is i dont know what the community is making such a big deal about regarding screws, i’ve only seen 2 use cases so far until tier 8

so i dont make any extra screws

only for hmf and i think rotors need it?

i forgor

[clever pier]

except if you are making steel ingots anyway for other reasons then its no extra steps

[hard ivy]

The belts don't really take up much space so it doesn't really matter where you put it
Making and using screws generally takes more machines than not

[glacial totem]

wait are you supposed to actually ride on the || space elevator? ||

I keep launching it but I'm not sure

[keen flame]

LOL

[hard ivy]

supposed to? no lol
can? absolutely

[clever pier]

coke steel alt, you'll have so much that using some for screws is no issue

[keen flame]

im sure you would realistically be disintegrated immediately if you rode on the space elevator

so probably not intended

[glacial totem]

so it's purpose is to just go into space and come back and unlock new upgrades?

[keen flame]

yes

[glacial totem]

ok thanks

[keen flame]

and make ada say funny stuff

[glacial totem]

I'm going to do it anyway

[clever pier]

it would be nice if there was || an ending cut scene where you got to ride the space elevator ||

[sterile blade]

I mean... You still go through the same steps, no matter why you made the ingots...

[clever pier]

i use sushi when appropriate but I'm not weird about screws

[sterile blade]

Yes, alt recipes are nice and change much in the balance between different recipes

[keen flame]

imo an alt recipe doesnt have to skip a step in the production or change the required materials to be good

[clever pier]

fine gave myself an appropriate server specific nick

[keen flame]

when there are several recipes that take and output the same things but 1.5x of the output compared to the initial one for example

[plucky bone]

Stickin nobelisks to spitters is funny when they shoot it and blow themselves up mid toss.

[keen flame]

free amplifier

[sterile blade]

Many "fast" recipes use screws (as in: recipes with the biggest output/min compared to their alts)
Eg: Bolted Plates, Bolted Frames, Copper Rotors, Flexible Frames...

[keen flame]

5000? 😭😭

[keen flame]

i see

[hard ivy]

and what's the benefit of fast when it's so expensive you don't save space, power or resources

[clever pier]

space , power and resources are effectively unlimited

[keen flame]

just make more of each

[sterile blade]

One production step can fit in less space...?
Up to the user to decide 🤷‍♂️

[clever pier]

ok maybe with 100x elevator parts in the new game modes you'd actually run out of power or resources

[keen flame]

rn 152

[clever pier]

why do people care about space in factory layouts? build up my friend.

the sky is quite literally the limit

[sterile blade]

People can run out even without that, if they just want to fill their spelevator faster. What really makes it more feasible to finish all resources, imo, are input multipliers as they effectively cut down on the number of machines needed to process all the ores into products (which few people even have the hardware to challenge in the first place, normally)

[keen flame]

@unborn gyro can i add you

💔💔

np

[reef basin]

No, none. People juat have specific preferences, and there are recipes that are valuable for them

[sterile blade]

In the game in general?

[keen flame]

true

i am still procrastinating building some of my factories

so some things are not getting the inputs theyre supposed to

but the lioness does not concern herself with inefficiency

[reef basin]

No, there's not

[sterile blade]

I haven't checked in a long time and haven't summed the hours I have on EXP with EA in even longer...
I reckon between 1500 and 2500?

[ivory condor]

We truly are in the dark time line

Its over

[sterile blade]

My next project has gotten so ambitious I almost burned out during the planning phase
Now I use the Update as an excuse not to start... Surely I need to have all the new things aviable before actually building everything, right? 😅

[ivory condor]

Its fine im going to go be with my mews

[clever pier]

do not built factories while drunk. I know from direct experience

the next day I'm like "what was I thinking?"

[ivory condor]

Going to go all pure world for your next mega project

[plucky bone]

Oops. Wrong level Ha ha

[ivory condor]

Think how large your project can be with all of those pure nodes

[cursive crane]

Real

[frozen mica]

yo

[sterile blade]

No, it's "just" one very big factory with many, many, many production steps inside (pretty much all of the production steps, actually): #screenshots message
The ore input shouldn't be even close to map limits (maybe 20% of some ores at most)

[frozen mica]

what's happening in the Q&A site

[keen flame]

oh ok you could just click the button later then

[ivory condor]

What are you building

[sterile blade]

<@&370483737957236737> wave of spam in the QA site (edit: initial ping was to mods)

[leaden turret]

community manager probably more appropriate because moderators are for discord

[woven sail]

discord mods have nothing to do with QA

[frozen mica]

does this thing usually happen?

[leaden turret]

shall we file a ticket on the qasite to get discord mods moderation powers on the qasite? 😛

[frozen mica]

like does it happen frequently

[sterile blade]

You do it then, since they always listen to you

[sterile blade]

Unfortunately, it's not exactly rare...

[ivory condor]

Oh god i see it now

[timber willow]

That was planning, that looked like a drafting design model for something like a 3D print lol dam

[frozen mica]

it's really annoying plus no one even cares about what they spam

[keen flame]

prolly

[leaden turret]

where is the spam?

[frozen mica]

in the Q&A site

[ivory condor]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280

[leaden turret]

where

[frozen mica]

wdym

[ivory condor]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/search?sort=1&date=All Time

[leaden turret]

saying there's spam on the qa site is like saying there's cats on the internet

[ivory condor]

so much garbage on the qa site now sesh

[frozen mica]

no?

[sterile blade]

The "Omnifactory", a... Uhm... "starter factory" for the endgame, making literally everything xD
||Admittedly, it doesn't output unsinkable Plutonium stuff though, nor Ficsonium "lapms" or whatever they're called...||

[ivory condor]

I know

[sterile blade]

Just sort by new and scroll from the top

[frozen mica]

if you just go there and sort by newest you will see spam

[leaden turret]

ah, sorted by top, didn't see it.

I can try and integrate anti-spam features into my qasite fork buuuuut I'd need to find something that didn't rely on a third-party service or an LLM

[timber willow]

Still a crazy setup don't envy the amount of work that will be

[sterile blade]

The fact that it keeps happening, shows that their success rate is high enough to make it worth it...

[ivory condor]

<@&370483737957236737> I vote we get the mods promoted to clean up qa site, can this happened or nay?

[leaden turret]

(I literally just got the qasite fork working again since it stopped working after the server move)

[frozen mica]

or they are trying to do this all the time because no one responded yet?(which is kinda stupid if they do this)

[keen flame]

alright

tho i might not play that much in 1 year

im thinking of taking a few months break once im done with evrything

[void gorge]

Nay

[obsidian zodiac]

yay. now mikael and i will duel

[leaden turret]

I vote we hire me to fix the qa site cos I've already done it once

[leaden turret]

inflatable lizard doggo costume sumo wrestling stream, when?

[sterile blade]

I can't quite picture in my head what you mean by that...
Can you share a link?

[void gorge]

I mean, you find them the actual salary at that point, and you may unleash them all over it

[sterile blade]

Pay the mods with the revenue from the tickets for the community managers' duel

[leaden turret]

(thinking inflatable t-rex costume, but lizard doggo)

[timber willow]

Was replying to your screenshot when I said that bud

[sterile blade]

I know, I don't get the "3D print" comparison 😅

Yes

[obsidian zodiac]

in all seriousness the spam is pretty fucked and we'll look into better safeguards

[timber willow]

Oh my bad some more complicated builds you make a 3d render the modeler ss looked like that to me

[ivory condor]

The recent spam that just hit is equally bad, why i was asking about to clean it up somehow

[leaden turret]

one account posting once per second, laziest option I can think of is slowmode the qasite

[sterile blade]

Tbh, the part that scares me most if finding a good overall design/architecture for the thing...
I'm not great with decor 😅

[leaden turret]

can't post more than once per minute per account 🤷‍♂️

[obsidian zodiac]

my b, to the swear jar i go

[void gorge]

Fucking hell Jason

[obsidian zodiac]

MIKAEL

LANGUAGE

[timber willow]

Hence why I said don't envy you a bit ago 😂

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac is at a disadvantage to @void gorge , Jason can only swear in one language.

Mikael can swear in three.

[void gorge]

Make that 4

Among the 28 words of Farsi I picked up from my parents several swears made it in

[twin parcel]

is there any settings for pc that lowers ur graphics dynamically to maintain fps?

[sterile blade]

Yeah, the zoomed-in version gets quite insane... #screenshots message
I should've used "outposts" or "blueprints" to handle things more cleanly, but it's also fun to be able to see all of the steps clearly (well... As clearly as the zoom allows 😅)

[void gorge]

It's actually incredibly hard to not be

[timber willow]

Oh yeah for sure be crazy production once you getting running like you have it planned

[sterile blade]

That feeling when everything is going according to plan is just

[sterile blade]

Maybe this time I'll be able to actually complete the project and not just the planning stage 🤞 ...
Last time I kinda burned out before fixing the production properly (similar production plan, much smaller scale and no 1.0 recipes though)

[void gorge]

Yeee we've talked pretty extensively about it

He actually enlightened me to possible reasons why I long sickeningly much for the country

[ivory condor]

Jace was awesome to

great cm, still sad they are gone

[void gorge]

There's your batman

[obsidian zodiac]

in a way im like snutt before he was bald

[void gorge]

Who?

[obsidian zodiac]

ah, forgot about the accident. no one, honey

[void gorge]

Hmh.

[obsidian zodiac]

it all migrates to our chin at some point

[sterile blade]

Do bold people dream of bold hair?

[ornate saffron]

unfortunately true

[obsidian zodiac]

owie

[real shale]

Me whos been doing night shifts in the sleep schedule sense for the past few days

[ivory condor]

good, but the site needs some better safe guards against spam like that to hmmm

[void cliff]

was moving 15 lizard doggos across the map, and the herd caught a stray rock from a cliff hog!!! only 6 survived 🙁

[ivory condor]

hmm the offending account was sent to the shadow realm though thankfully

[true mulch]

is there even a captcha? there wasn't the last time I used the site

[ivory condor]

no and i think thats part of the problem, its to easy for bots to spam it

[true mulch]

well, that seems like a fairly obvious fix

[ivory condor]

yeah it is

[true mulch]

?

if it's been fixed, why bring it up 😭

[reef basin]

select all unpowered pumps and wrongly used valves

[true mulch]

select all belt segments with bottlenecks

[fossil oyster]

select best recipe for heavy modular frame

[true mulch]

hahaha yeah I was just about to say

[reef basin]

impossible captcha

[true mulch]

add an alt recipe captcha and start a war

[fossil oyster]

actually possible.

[leaden turret]

"identify the assembler" captcha and Snutt not be able to post

[reef basin]

not really as you don't know the context

[sterile blade]

What is the best Alt recipe?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> "pronounce Hannah's last name" captcha, everyone outside of the netherlands won't be able to post

[true mulch]

select all interesting rock formations

[leaden turret]

for the benefit of any newcomers to the server: https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/coffee-stainers/hannah/coffee-stainers-cant-pronounce-hannahs-last-name/

[true mulch]

no time to play lately

[scenic mirage]

what is her last name 😭

[leaden turret]

Beuger

[obsidian zodiac]

according to uzu, we have a captcha only when registering your account

[true mulch]

I really think there should be a captcha for every post

[leaden turret]

and comments

[true mulch]

it's not that any single user will be making enough posts for that to be a problem

[scenic mirage]

danish last names be like østergaard, mølle, sørensen, norgaard

[obsidian zodiac]

also according to uzu it would probably require some web dev work, which we dont have anyone at the studio working in webdev. pls dont @ uzu

were gonna keep tweaking the site and make it a better experience

[true mulch]

it could be annoying for active commenters, but those must be protected too, else the spam will just move there
a rate limit before a captcha shows up could be sufficient

[leaden turret]

_why do you think I said to hire me 😛 _

[void gorge]

@lethal raptor

[obsidian zodiac]

GUARDS

[void gorge]

<@&370480127630639104>

Fight me

[normal orbit]

someone getting lynched at the office

[true mulch]

someone is getting their coffee stained

[tall lantern]

best not say "fight me" when they can, in fact, fight you. with numbers advantage no less

[scenic mirage]

since yall here are half frame foundations coming? and half glass frame/roof?

[leaden turret]

you don't work remotely, you know hannah is just gonna come throw stuff at you

[median oracle]

[void gorge]

I'm pretty confident in my gains lately

[obsidian zodiac]

unfortunately mikael is too big for us

[reef basin]

put some context on that message

[tall lantern]

but you have infinite re-SPWNs

[leaden turret]

use the randomiser, we already saw that it can make Mikael lose his gains

[obsidian zodiac]

mikael is way too big for me, which normally i like

[sterile blade]

Someone is one a bammer speedrun, huh?

[magic fractal]

[shy ether]

[obsidian zodiac]

mikael called the avengers and they just started beating the sh*t out of him

[void gorge]

I did ask them to fight me

[leaden turret]

shitposting idea: ||shoop Mikael's face onto Thanos, other coffeestainers onto the avengers / guardians / spiderman||

this chat is a 1.3 tease, pvp confirmed

[obsidian zodiac]

well, almost every coffeestainer

[void gorge]

The fuck happened in that 2.0 meeting?

Sad I missed it now

[obsidian zodiac]

emmet came out as english and said he was "evil emmet" and said we were going to make an extraction shooter

[sterile blade]

... You didn't just casually drop that...
Satisfactorio is coming, 💯% confirmed

[void gorge]

Oh man

RIP the MMO dream

[leaden turret]

take the goat sim approach and fake an MMO

[sterile blade]

If your extraction shooter game isn't an MMO, that's just a server issue. Git guuder servers

[crude canyon]

Thinking on using factory carts as a bus

[ornate saffron]

Game director as Thanos other devs as the infinity gems on his gauntlet

[leaden turret]

I was more thinking mikael as thanos because of pinging the coffee stainers

[ivory condor]

Cant wait for space age

[sterile blade]

I hate factory carts because they can't load sushi in them. Terrible design
||Joke disclaimer||

[sterile blade]

Satisfactory: Sloop Age

[crude canyon]

1.2 brings a massive buff with them

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> just a thought, doesn't the 1.2 change in autopilot break factory cart skate parks?

[sterile blade]

??
Did they increase their storage?

[rocky mural]

[crude canyon]

the route options are much better now
vehicles will wait if there's another vehicle in a path, and you can split and merge paths

[obsidian zodiac]

technically yes - vehicles will now follow paths directly

but you can still drive vehicles with all the physics

[ivory condor]

Satisfactory: Low Framerate Age

[sterile blade]

Lots of people have been complaining about that...
I reckon there must be a few posts about keeping the ability to record paths (at least for some vehicles)
Also because that's the only way to have vehicles autopilot over jumpads, which is another funny feature of the old system

[obsidian zodiac]

if you have legacy vehicle paths, they might look super jank if they relied heavily on physics to work

[sterile blade]

Oh yeah, I know, I was just meming over their single inventory slot ^^

[obsidian zodiac]

from the convos ive had with the dev team, its no longer possible to use the legacy system. but who knows, maybe if theres enough pushback it can be brought back in some capacity.

[crude canyon]

did I tell you that my friend finished smarter truck stations?

[ivory condor]

What happens if you load those saves that already have recorded paths with jumppads

[sterile blade]

I had a truck route going from a lake to the top of a waterfall, all via carefully placed Jumpads, with the trucks weaving between the tree branches as they flew through the air....

[crude canyon]

what about elevators for vehicles?
Rn it's easy to go down, but a slog to go up

[scenic mirage]

do we still use railways or can we also use universal railway paths?

[ivory condor]

Hmmm i feel i have some testing to do

Time to find what happens if you try to load a save with vehicles with already recorded jump pads, because i want to see what jank is going to happen

[leaden turret]

have the devs tested internally what happens if they disable the safeguards with the pathing ? (rechecking validity when foundations are removed, etc.)

[ornate saffron]

on you pc computer

[ivory condor]

Hold on im about to break the game im sure

[crude canyon]

yeah you can switch between branches and test that out

[fossil oyster]

This isn't WoW

[ivory condor]

Yeah, this is totally going to be a complete jank mess im sure

[sterile blade]

Nope, last I heard about it, it was in progress and I declined giving comments/opinions xD (it was the mod for smart stations, right?)

[crude canyon]

yeah it's available now

[ivory condor]

That mod is going to need major rework with 1.2 i bet

[sterile blade]

I haven't tried.
Tbh, I also pretty much binned the whole idea at some point because it didn't seem very reliable and a lot of work to set up
(iirc, the old Omnifactory ran on some such trucks)

[crude canyon]

nah, it's just a filter on truck stations

so a truck carrying a lot of different stuff only deposits some of it

[sterile blade]

By "reliable" I'm not talking about trucks not reaching the stations, but rather them not engaging properly with jumpads sometimes (so instead of jumping they just phased to destination after a while)

By what weird metric?

[crude canyon]

time spent in this server

[sterile blade]

I doubt I'd make it to the top 50 xD

[ivory condor]

Speaking of pushback, about daisy chaining, its current spot in the research tree is no good

[sterile blade]

I'm honored 😅
Big shoes to fill!

[crude canyon]

is it too late?

[ivory condor]

Yes way to late....

[crude canyon]

what spot is it in?

[fossil oyster]

Just like Teleporters and Tier 3 Blueprints :p

[ornate saffron]

that was brought up on tuesdays stream.

Active doesnt mean good lol

[sterile blade]

I should find the time to hop on a stream...
That might just be the only way to bring the Programmable Splitters' half-feature to the attention of the devs for good

[sterile blade]

I think they just meant "good". And I'd agree ^^

[fossil oyster]

What defines good

[sterile blade]

Me

[ornate saffron]

like cats are good. But also evil assholes

[leaden turret]

anti-hero, not evil

[timid rune]

mmm 90 assemblers worth of reinforced iron plate input, this will take a while to backfill itself

probably at least 30mins for the manifold to sort out itself

[ornate saffron]

half feature?

[sterile blade]

If you wish, you can avoid or reduce the full-time with any of the following:

• Making a balancer instead of a manifold (no fill time)
• Manually prefilling machines (no fill time)
• Adding containers that "oveefeed" the manifold via some mergers along it (much lower fill-time)

[timid rune]

I am just gonna sloop one of the outputs upstream haha

[ivory condor]

After mk3 power poles

[sterile blade]

The fact that they can load-balance multiple items only when the output belts are higher MK than input belt (unintended feature, just happens to work)

[crude canyon]

damn they really like their poles

[ivory condor]

Like who decided you needed to have mk3 power poles before daisy chaining, send help

[ivory condor]

Too much so imo

[low ingot]

how?

[crude canyon]

what does it cost to unlock

[ivory condor]

mk3 is now useless because of daisy chaining also...

[crude canyon]

ok, computers, high speed connectors and quickwire

so this is around oil

well, you still have half the game to go through

[ivory condor]

Its still imo way to late to give daisy chaining

[tall lantern]

obligatory "experimental discussion is better suited to #satisfactory-experimental "

[hard ivy]

so is a mk1 and mk2 (after you unlock daisy)

only power towers needed for long range

[ivory condor]

So the devs are forcing us to unlock all of the power poles as a last bit of spit

[hard ivy]

if it was unlocked from the start, I'm not entirely sure if I would place a single pole

[ivory condor]

Be like heres daisy chaining finally, btw enjoy unlocking all of the power poles first because we hate you

[crude canyon]

I was playing with daisy chain everything and... yeah

it even saves resources

[hard ivy]

great for 2x

[late tartan]

Are fluid train cars still bad?

[hard ivy]

haven't changed afaik

[crude canyon]

wym bad?

[late tartan]

Low capacity, stops all in/out while docking

[green fiber]

Capacity was buffed (in 1.2), but like all train stuff the still completely stop while docking

[crude canyon]

do normal truck stations behave the same now?

[late tartan]

Which is why its still bad. There a mod to fix it?

[crude canyon]

no mods yet

[late tartan]

:(

[hard ivy]

it was?
haven't seen that in the changelog

[green fiber]

Truck stations never stop input / output

[green fiber]

Because its not in the patchnotes. They forgot about that

[late tartan]

I think they are neat but the cons make it unusable imo

[hard ivy]

2x?

[green fiber]

No, i think 2400 m3

from 1600 ish?

[scenic mirage]

do yall separate your railways? like place a barrier or smth in between

or do you just have em next to each other

[sterile blade]

Hate it when they do that...

They still haven't even updated the patch notes fixing the fluid loss on load in U6 😭

[green fiber]

Fluid changes were always in the shadows

[late tartan]

It fluid traffic wasnt halted on docking, fluid cars would be absolutely goated

[ivory condor]

So much so its not even included in patch notes

[hard ivy]

so packaging still better, if barely
+30% instead of double
and only on long enough routes

[scenic mirage]

oh noo there was too many new features in the update, steak too juicy and lobster too buttery 😭