satisfactory

[feral vector]

yeah I'm at like 1150 max consumption and my coal plants make 1200, and I have an extra 450 from biofuel if needed with a full storage container of fuel

[tall lantern]

might be a good time to invest in a lil more coal power then, you don't want to be right at your limit when you need to expand

[feral vector]

I think I might go make 16 more coal gens or something I don't like being anywhere near running out of power

lol yeah agree

[simple pebble]

Yeah my partner and I are arguing over whether to expand power or production on our MP server right now

[feral vector]

I'm not even using mk2 miners for coal yet, just the 60 * 4 nodes

and I could still overclock for more

[tall lantern]

well if there's two of you surely the answer is "both"

[feral vector]

I haven't overclocked at all lol this game has way too much stuff to think about

[simple pebble]

That was the original plan, yup

Now they're asking if I can help them with concrete for HMFs over fuel power 💀

[feral vector]

seems like this grass area is chill for resources during early tiers

[plucky bone]

I totally agree. I've put a ton into the sink just messing around and stocking my storage hall(Which I regret to say is too small and needs a complete redo)

[feral vector]

hmm is there a scanner for hard drives? I've only foudn like three

[plucky bone]

Later on yes

[feral vector]

yeah I have so many tickets I don't even know what to spend them on lol

[ornate saffron]

Nut

[feral vector]

I got some good stuff like ladder, concrete foundations, logistics stuff like floor conveyors

[plucky bone]

No sink emoji. Darn

[tall lantern]

[feral vector]

someday I'll actually use wall mounts and wall outlets, I just build out in the open still and don't really go vertical

not like I'm gonna run out of space if I can just make another big floating foundation even if it looks kinda janky

it's too hard to plan to make things look nice when I'm still figuring out how to make them just work lmao

[plucky bone]

Once you start making actual buildings and so on they are nice to use for details.

[clear aspen]

I like seeing the smog

[feral vector]

it sure is satisfying having a production chain with all green lights

[twin parcel]

dam , kinda pissed that when two mk 1 pipes merge into 1 mk 2 pipes , it sloshes .

[feral vector]

lol right we are supposed to exploit

[feral vector]

I still have no idea how pipes work I just copied a setup from the wiki, seems to work even though pipes are good for 300 and the gens need 360 or whatever

[spiral stratus]

Why do so many people remove screws from the game with alt recipes? Are they really that annoying?

[tall lantern]

just like belts, no individual segment can carry more than their limit, but as long as you don't have a bottleneck, it works

[feral vector]

I'm still pretty early game and I just needed like 15 constructors to make screws for motors

[clear mesa]

Overhated (imo) but they can be annoying logistically

[tall lantern]

because they don't realise the lesson screws are trying to teach and just want to manifold everything

[twin parcel]

its the quantity of screws , and the belts get saturated , u need to set up a lot of belts just for the screws .

[tall lantern]

(the lesson basically being "there are other ways to move resources than just jamming them all onto one shared belt)

[feral vector]

lol I accidentally learned a lesson from screws when I didn't need to. my constructors make 250 screws a minute and I thought my belts were only good for 240 so I split the output into two belts

[next ivy]

manifolds are to satisfactory, what balancers are to factorio

[abstract notch]

Yall think that the trigger that gives you the golden nut achievement should be picking it up and not by you buying it

[feral vector]

but those belts are good for 270

[plucky bone]

What lesson? I like learing. ✅

[feral vector]

do manifolds still work properly eventually even if you don't let the machines fill up?

[twin parcel]

yes i like learing too

[plucky bone]

Lol

[rough shore]

how would a manifold work without the machines filling up

[clear mesa]

they eventually will fill up, so yes

[feral vector]

I mean like.... letting my coal go into the generators till the line is backed up before I power them on

[next ivy]

if they dont fill up you did your math wrong

[clear mesa]

When it comes to power I would rather leth them fill up first before turning on

[feral vector]

even if the input matches the demand exactly?

[next ivy]

eventually they will fill

[twin parcel]

when the first machine input clogged , the excess resource sent to next line .

[feral vector]

ok I trust you guys lol

thanks

[next ivy]

as long as theres no bottleneck

[crude canyon]

ok, I think I'd like to try 1.2
I guess the biggest difference is the random nodes and the truck paths?

[clear mesa]

Eh with anything other than power yes but I've run into odd issues when it comes to coal where it can be a bit annoying sometimes, just place a few auto miners on a coal node and hand-fill the coal gens, no big deal

[abstract girder]

I think you shouldn't do that because it will take too long to fill the last machine.

[next ivy]

also you could add some backpressure to make em fill up faster

[feral vector]

I learned about manifolds from a tips video so I'm just abusing the hell out of them now, my brain didn't even consider that option, I was just load balancing everything

[twin parcel]

just use balancers , thats what i use on my oil plants , now im facing with pipe issues .

[clear mesa]

Manifolds are king 95% of the time

[feral vector]

is there a good way to help solve this? underclock the first few machines?

[next ivy]

no

[abstract girder]

I was the same way, and here I learned about manifolds. Balancers are very unnecessary in this game, in my opinion, especially when you have a manifold; unless you have a reason other than aesthetics, a manifold is better.

[next ivy]

then you wont meet your production goal

[twin parcel]

nah , its overated .

[rough shore]

oh he meant like hand filling them up i just thought filling them up in general cuz i mean the whole point of a manifold is overloading a machine then going to the next one

[feral vector]

I tried to just turn the machines off but then they don't fill up?

[next ivy]

just make more

[rough shore]

nuh uh

[abstract girder]

Ensure the belts leading to the machines are completely full before they start.

[fallow chasm]

Hello

[feral vector]

don't know what a balancer is heh

[clear aspen]

I always do manifolds I don’t wanna do math to figure out how to do balanced

[feral vector]

isn't that a very small amount of inputs tho?

[twin parcel]

yeap , or u can just use smart spilters on ur manifold and set the output to overflow

[feral vector]

like typically when I use manifolds the belts are extremely short

[clear mesa]

yeah sure maybe until you get to numbers like 182.5 which are fun to load balance

[feral vector]

like set straight to any and right to overflow so it skips the first machine and only fills it with overflow?

[twin parcel]

easy , just figure out the prime factors , just make sure its 2,3 or 5. otherwise its gonna be complicated .

[feral vector]

I spent a whole day figuring out how smart splitters work, this genre of game is crazy if you've never played one

[abstract girder]

Well, maybe a little bit, but I always do it that way and I haven't seen any problem with it.

[feral vector]

I think I need a job that uses this part of my brain XD

[clear aspen]

Smart splitters are so easy

[whole robin]

Just let it run for a while with machines on, they should sprt themselves out to all be on (if your math is right)

[clear aspen]

Tbf I understand nuclear stuff but not geometry

[feral vector]

I mean like... practical applications for them, the concept wasn't hard for me to figure out

[clear aspen]

I see

[plucky bone]

I threw up a question in #design-and-architecture If anyone knows pipes I need an opinion.

[feral vector]

like I had a genius idea to sushi line all my output and smart sort it into storage containers, I got it all set up with one container for each item I was producing and was like... a single belt can't handle this at all lmao

[twin parcel]

nah overflow means that output will only output if the other outputs are clogged .

[clear aspen]

I just belt it and worry about backing up once it affects me

[clear mesa]

great for sinks/storage and sorting sushi belts

[feral vector]

then I made some crazy (for me at least) blueprint that takes 8 input belts and smart sorts them, and another blueprint with 8 containers that connects to it, but it was still overkill

[supple canopy]

#math-and-meta message yeaaa definitly gonna find the prime factor between 896 and 576 and build a megafactory of load balancers

[abstract girder]

And if you're using manifolds throughout your entire factory, never start all the machines at once. For example, let's say you're going to produce screws; first, fill the belts going to the ingot melters and fill the ingot melters themselves. Once the iron coming out of the ingot melters fills the belts going to the producers, then start the producers. I hope you understand the logic.

[feral vector]

the last one I made was just 4 containers and a manifold of smart splitters with the overflow going to a sink, that seems better

[fluid sapphire]

Ya'll seriously stressing way too much about the spin up time for a manifold

[clear mesa]

This is good practice but unnecessary until you come to fluids, everything eventually turns on

[twin parcel]

its rare to meet those numbers mate , what u yapping?

[feral vector]

isn't that what I want though? skip the first few to help the last ones fill up then change the smart splitter settings?

[fluid sapphire]

Just leave your manifolds alone, they don't need you to babysit them, go do something else

[feral vector]

I'm new, I was just asking lol I don't stress that much

[abstract girder]

If you want your factory to operate at 100% efficiency, Sink is perfect for that....

[supple canopy]

It's literally part of one of the most number-friendly input for a nuclear setup (as in no decimals anywhere)

[feral vector]

yeah I also learned I can have an overflow smart splitter to a sink so production doesn't back up

[wary remnant]

That's just a 14 part split of 5 and 9. You want a load balancer for that?

[feral vector]

right now I have excess rods from my motor production chain going to a storage container but I'll sink it instead once I have a container filled with rods

[clear mesa]

especially useful once you get to crude oil..

[clear mesa]

Not sure why anyone would do this other than to say they did

[abstract girder]

Yes, smart splitters are great for simplifying the game; I didn't know about manifolds or overflows when I first started playing either. Don't worry, learning them will be very easy for you.

[fluid sapphire]

Not directly addressed to, indirectly perhaps, you can usually safely ignore advice about helping your manifolds along

[feral vector]

so like... having 100 ingots in all the smelters will help jump start the constructor manifold? then having max stack of iron rods in the constructors will help jump start the screws manifold?

[solar loom]

is there a way to keep the altitude youre building belts at?

[feral vector]

don't worry, I appreciate the input

[fluid sapphire]

Filling machine buffers is an OK solution, anything beyond that is unnecessary

[supple canopy]

"that's just a [sequence of the most cursed numbers]"

[wispy condor]

Sry for pinging you @median oracle but i mind something . Have you touched/lowered nanite pool for 1.2 ? Because i aleready hit it in 1.1 and i have bigger issues in the save ( i can't see anything i am placing , i have weird things (
#screenshots message ( link to the screenshots on #screenshots ) weirder than when i hit it on 1.1
So i was thinking of that or Unreal engine update ( if you want more informations of the save just ask me about )
Thanks for reading it

[crude canyon]

Ok guys, what should my current mode be about

[feral vector]

so only some stuff will fill up while it's powered off right? like coal gens filled up, but constructors won't?

[fluid sapphire]

Build foundations?

[fluid sapphire]

Fairly certain it's just various generators, nothing else, not 100% tho

[solar loom]

#screenshots

[clear mesa]

Anything power generation related fills up even when turned off yes

[wary remnant]

I do it because I can. It's just as easy to do it than not.

[clear mesa]

So we agree

[feral vector]

ok thanks, good to know it's just gens

[fluid sapphire]

Make another lift somewhere exactly the same way?

[median oracle]

nanite pool is dynamically growing with 1.2.

[solar loom]

Okay, ty

[fluid sapphire]

Or stack supports

Nudge vertically to desired height, then nudge where you need your belt to go

[wispy condor]

So it may be due to the Unreal engine update ?

[clear aspen]

I just felt like asking, why are there no VC’s?

[white dawn]

Essentially impossible to moderate properly

[clear aspen]

I see

It’s a bit annoying, but I don’t really care, was just curious

[ornate saffron]

Unfortunately people can't moderate themselves

[clear aspen]

I see

[serene jolt]

How many people can play on one multiplayer server? Is it only 4?

I’m using the steam hosting thing btw

[clear aspen]

I think it’s 6

[serene jolt]

Ok

[clear aspen]

Shoot I mean 4

My mind blanked for a second

[serene jolt]

Oh ok

[tall lantern]

4 by default but can be extended (at own risk)

[clear aspen]

How

[tall lantern]

ini file edits

[severe storm]

Things i want after my first 2 and a half weeks playing the game:

*a favorites tab in the build menu and some way to organize it to personal preference.

*cap the build length of pipes/conveyors to their max, so if you go over their max length, instead of just showing as unbuildable, it would allow you to build it at it's max length still. (allowing you to more quick place them without worrying about length nearly as much)

*solar panels

*allow gas nobelisks to explode things like normal nobelisks

*some way to wear the hoverpack and jetpack at the same time, maybe make the hoverpack double tap jump to toggle. (basically like minecraft creative mode flight)

*a "quick stack to nearby chests" buttom similar to terraria, or at the very least, a "craft using nearby chests" option. (this is most impactful pre dimensional depot)

*some way to more easily build things off the ground.

*renewable trees/leaves, maybe farm plots, or a automatic tree farm esque building. this would give a bigger purpose to the wood to coal recipe, especially end game. could also make mycelia renewable.

*a flying vehicle, even just a pilotable drone.

*the ability for the jetpack to use fuel from the dimensional depot. also the ability to use gas mask filters & ammo from the depot.

*the ability to use multiple MAMs for different research at the same time.

*make sipping coffee give you a small speed boost (like 5-10%)

*add GUI size/scale/position customization. the more customizable, the better.

*increase rifle mag size to 30 bullets, 20 just feels sluggish to me. (ik turbo ammo exists)

*add the ability to pick up/interact with items while reloading.

*increase the stack size of all/most items to 500.

*underwater DLC, basically subnautica but way better.

*public mod tools & steam workshop support.

theres definitely more, i'll update this as they come to me.

this is not me complaining, i adore this game and have put 212 hours into it in my first 2 weeks.

sorry for the spam.

[quaint goblet]

coffeestain has said they’re not doing green energy like solar panels

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[sterile blade]

Spam in the proper places ^^ (See above)
The server is for convos, it rarely serves as a place to report bugs or suggestions (even more rarely than the devs looking at the general chat...)

[unkempt blade]

He's claiming to have played nearly 16 hours a day for 2 weeks. He might just need to go outside for a while

[tall lantern]

favourites tab is just your hotbars isn't it

some of these look reasonable and QA site worthy, some are very unlikely IMO - solar panels already mentioned, multiple MAMs , stack size, would all be balance things so unlikely to change that drastically

[errant stump]

Hi, I'm fairly new here. I like storing large amounts of resources, but storage capacity is limited. Is there a mod that gives infinite storage without blocking game achievements?

[next ivy]

you can always build more storage

[outer musk]

How do I increase flow rate in a mk 1 pipe?

Not enough water is getting to my goal gens

I sent a screenshot in #screenshots of my setup

it does go up at a pretty harsh angle but I have pumps so doesent that help?

[fickle locust]

Generally pipes either let water through or don't. If some (but not enough) is going through, I'd be more inclined to look at how much you're producing and how much you're consuming

[fluid sapphire]

Are we playing the same game? #screenshots message

[outer musk]

I have enough production, thats not the problem. its the flow rate, idk how I can fix that but I have more than enough production

[fickle locust]

It might help to put this in #1038092680493801533 so we can get other pictures

[outer musk]

alright

[fluid sapphire]

That one shot says nothing about how your piping is done

[crude canyon]

So what are factory cart paths for
Why would I want them over belts

[severe storm]

basically, pumps.

[twin parcel]

the oil extractors supposed to flow 600 in mk2 pipes , even added fluid buffers , nothing works .

[cedar iris]

where do i post bugs

[severe storm]

well 2 and a half weeks, but hey, i got laid off from my job recently, leave me alone

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[ornate saffron]

Qa site

[cedar iris]

thank you

[plush trellis]

As my track is straight line I put block signals not path signals?

[proven snow]

Yeah path signals are just for if you have multiple trains running and there are intersections

If no intersections block signal is enough

[plush trellis]

[fluid sapphire]

Pumps provide headlift, not flow rate

[severe storm]

oh, interesting

i thought they did both

[fluid sapphire]

Read the tooltip for pumps :p

[ornate saffron]

Max flow is dictated by pipe. Mk1 give a max flow of 300. Mk2 600.

As far as I can tell you cannot reach max flow unless a pipe is full

[severe storm]

given what i've seen, that makes sense

[ornate saffron]

Things the game does not tell you

Backwash and sloshing exists

[next ivy]

but why do they exist

is it a coding artifact
or intentional feature

[ornate saffron]

🤷

[fickle locust]

Pretty sure it's intentional

Liquid flow is supposed to sort of simulate how liquids work in the real world

[next ivy]

then why are they so unrealistic

[rough shore]

cuz

idk what those are

guys its just pipe to machine cant be hard

[fickle locust]

Because you can't have a nicely optimized game and perfect simulation of real-world physics and systems that make sense for the player all at the same time

[severe storm]

it's really not, i caught on pretty quick and i actually find he fluid mechanics really dope

[next ivy]

so simplify the fockin simulation

[rough shore]

game doesnt make sense tho either way

[severe storm]

is it supposed to?

[next ivy]

simplifying the simulation would solve 2 of 3 issues

[rough shore]

idk?

[hearty flame]

the doggo just gave me a nuke-

[normal orbit]

they also provide pressure which can help liquid reach further

[ornate saffron]

They do that

[fickle locust]

The point is there are competing priorities. "Just make it better" isn't a response to that point.

[hearty flame]

i cant even use it yet 😭

[next ivy]

luckily no one said that

[fickle locust]

I think the devs are probably missing the mark on explaining liquids, based on the questions that come in, but I also don't want liquids to work the same as conveyers because then what's the point

[normal orbit]

if they would show pressure variable, that would help players in figuring things out instead of keeping it hidden in the background

[fickle locust]

Pipes aren't that hard to work with once you've internalized how they function--the game just doesn't do a good enough job teaching that, as compared to conveyers where it really does

[normal orbit]

also making the pipe ui show accurate values

[next ivy]

hiding shit aint great yea

i thought flow was shown tho ?

havent looked at the interface in a while

[normal orbit]

flow is, but its not anywhere near accurate

[next ivy]

oh pressure

[normal orbit]

using a stopwatch to time how fast the fluids flow from A to B and calculating the flow with pipe volume/time seem to suggest pipes hit max flow almost instantly and the time needed is just to fill volume

[ornate saffron]

Hiding impies intent. Really it just shows a average. Flow rate graph with more detailed data would be more useful. Showing the average and what the data points were to give you that average. How hard it would be to give us this and present it in a meaningful simple way is another thing entirely

[plain marten]

if onborading is enabled and you start a multiplayer game, will everyone see the starting intro or not?

[next ivy]

yea i bet its much harder than copying the power graph and slapping some different variables on it

[quasi star]

Is there an updated mod for rotating things on the other axis?

[next ivy]

is infinite nudge not updated ?

also i think theres a modding specific discord

[rough shore]

would be nice but idk

[knotty bear]

Why's my game updating

[ornate saffron]

Infinity nudge allows it but no mods work on 1.2

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> video this week?

[rough shore]

guys guys guys

i got solid steel

[ornate saffron]

We got a stream yesterday. Covered many bugs

[abstract heron]

Ik but video this week

[fluid sapphire]

Is there a list written down somewhere?

[jagged nymph]

no

[ornate saffron]

Whatever was covered in #patch-notes and the archives which has links to specific statements and such

[abstract heron]

It’s all 8:15pm for the css team ish

I have to remember they have there time change this weekend

[fluid sapphire]

No mention of train signaling fix 😭

[valid glade]

what’s wrong with train signaling

[next ivy]

finally

180° train paths on a straight

-# right ?

[abstract heron]

I use 7:15way

[jagged nymph]

24 hour time is so much better than 12 hour time but im used to 12 hour time so thats what i use

[rough shore]

literally same thing

[jagged nymph]

1500 is the same at 3:00 pm?

[rough shore]

yes

[jagged nymph]

well like they both reference the same thing but one system is clearly better

[plucky bone]

Fluids kinda new to me yet but if I have 10 plastic and 10 rubber refineries I should only need 5 refineries to make fuel from the residue if my math is correct? Am I close to correct? And one fully overclocked extractor on a pure oil node.

[rough shore]

yeah and that is sundials

[fluid sapphire]

Signals on rail splits can make trains think that it's a 180 degree turn depending on the angle the rail is built from, causing the error "loops into itself"

[jagged nymph]

true....

[abstract heron]

But be happy I am making 100 nuclear pasta

I want to make 230.625 per minute but later

[jagged nymph]

uhhh

why???

[valid glade]

ohhh that’s wack

[abstract heron]

To me?

[jagged nymph]

do you need to power like 1000 portals???

[abstract heron]

I wanna more

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[plucky bone]

O shoot. Welp that was a waste of a few hours

[abstract heron]

I think 165 no overclocking and copper powder extra with mods

[abstract heron]

Want to know my hrs

[plucky bone]

Next time double check the recipe.

Sure

[jagged nymph]

what happened

[jagged nymph]

no you dont wanna know his hours....

[abstract heron]

18,959 hrs on record TOTAL @plucky bone are my hrs to much

[spare prism]

hi

[abstract heron]

And over 5,100hr in my world

[jagged nymph]

i lowk need to see this world

[abstract heron]

I am still working on it and 2 I use mods

[plucky bone]

I made a refinery with 10 and 10 with rubber/plastic but realized i needed it for power and didn't need the plastic/rubber cuz I got a plant and ya I want power. Maybe gonna zap it all and do straight fuel. Oops

[abstract heron]

Reason why I tat every stage

Test I mean

[plucky bone]

Not that, Just I didn't think enough and made a plastic refinery when I wanted a fuel one for a powerstattion. Duh moment.

Greenie

[abstract heron]

First if there is a problem I swear

And then I work to fix it

[plucky bone]

I got 10 mins in July 2021 and since about a week ago I have 180 1/2 hrs

Still have my first save,

[knotty bear]

Why is my game updating rn

[plucky bone]

I kinda test but usually I just go more and add ways out/no plugups.

[abstract heron]

And reason why I test eveery part

[plucky bone]

This game is my style. Math is easy and you don't gotta worry bout waste cuz the sink and so on.

[abstract heron]

EXP MAYBE

[knotty bear]

I am on exp why is it updating

[latent marsh]

guys I started a new game and got cast screws and iron pipes back to back in early game I think I'm ascending

[abstract heron]

#patch-notes read

Reason why

What

[knotty bear]

oh it updated

[abstract heron]

Yes

[knotty bear]

how did they delete a whole limestone node last update

[jagged nymph]

dont act like you dont have over 2 years of time on this game

[abstract heron]

June 8th 2020 I got the game

[jagged nymph]

cause it was a ghost node for a long time, wasnt visible but you could place a miner on it. I assume they removed it while they fixed it

[knotty bear]

I'm on phase 3 rn with 134.8 hours of playtime.

[jagged nymph]

so you spend 8 hours a day on this game basically

[abstract heron]

I am at 18,959 hrs on record of play time TOTAL AND having 5,100hr or more in my current world

[abstract heron]

Some days I play 15hr or 13hr

[whole robin]

Do gases slosh in pipes? I know that sounds like a dumb question but I can never be too sure with how fluids work

[jagged nymph]

if you spend 8.96 huors on this game every single day since you got it that would get you as many hours as you currently have

[abstract heron]

I am currently working on 100 nuclear pasta

[knotty bear]

Not even my worst satisfactory phases lead to me having the game open that long

[abstract heron]

@knotty bear

[valid sigil]

what version was your current world created in?

[abstract heron]

Update 1.0

Since the game on 1.0

[valid glade]

that’s like how i used to be with dayz 😭

[abstract heron]

But i did get the game June 8th 2020

[valid sigil]

Ah cool, are you keeping it up to date or is it staying at 1.0? Just curious if the updates would cause any issues with such a large world

[abstract heron]

Updates unless the word turns into ugly mess or I have to restart

Or if the devs say to restart

[knotty bear]

holy hell

[abstract heron]

So I’ll keep updating my world unless devs say u have to restart or something breaks

[fluid sapphire]

What's the deal anyway with that, how do you have that much time to play the game

[abstract heron]

I love playing the game

[fluid sapphire]

Well, clearly, how do you survive

[sinful bobcat]

It’s called autism that’s how we have so much time to play the game

[abstract heron]

And it’s also a good game with good devs and such

[fluid sapphire]

I meant more like don't you have anything else that takes up any time at all?

Other commitments

[sinful bobcat]

I feel very judged by steam when the hour count only goes to “above 100 hours”

[fluid sapphire]

Autism creates more time in the day somehow?

[abstract heron]

And it’s not to insane math game

[little cobalt]

do you not have any days off?

[latent marsh]

I do all my schoolwork in advance so i can play all day

[sinful bobcat]

I have 1.4 thousand hours

Never completed a play through btw

[whole robin]

No, it makes us abandon other things to satisfactory

[abstract heron]

Or any easy days to play and I love watching movies shows and other stuff to play

And build

[fluid sapphire]

Sometimes but that doesn't mean I actually have nothing else to do for 12+ hours?

[latent marsh]

I wish I didn't need sleep

[plucky bone]

Do I keep my refinery and just make another.... Yup. Easy choice. I got the supplies for it so.

[rough shore]

yall got problems fr fr

[abstract heron]

Remember to test every stage

[sinful bobcat]

I have 4 thousand hours in Destiny, don’t talk to me about problems.

[fluid sapphire]

Don't you have cooking, cleaning, idk, laundry, whatever to do at all, ever?

[latent marsh]

it's only a problem if you let it be

[knotty bear]

Btw this game and kerbal space program are the only games on my PC that cause coil whine.

[fluid sapphire]

Commuting? Shopping? Anything at all?

[knotty bear]

I only have a 2060 6gb so that might explain it but still.

[abstract heron]

I only take breaks in summer due to hot

[sinful bobcat]

Meal prep, dishwasher, vacuum, washing machine

[rough shore]

eating showering hydrating?

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah that's what I mean, that stuff adds up

[latent marsh]

just put plastic over your phone to use steam link in the shower frfr

[knotty bear]

I am quite luckily moving to a house with air conditioning before Summer so I can keep playing satisfactory.

[little cobalt]

it's not like those things aren't getting done. i'm sure you've spent a day relaxing on the couch before, it's not so different

[abstract heron]

Ofc there are breaks in the day for playing like eating and other chores

[rough shore]

a day doesnt equal 20k hours i dont think

[plucky bone]

I will. It's just one for now. I usually turn it all off switch/power then run it up. always. Then balance input till not too much over filling. Belts I guess. Hate a full belt. Like it looking nice not stop go. Hate that.

[fluid sapphire]

We're not just talking about a few days where you play all day, but multiple years with 12+ hours what I am assuming is most days

[abstract heron]

I have 5080ti in mine and 32gb of ram

[plucky bone]

You should see my base its interesting

[little cobalt]

12h days every day for years is a different thing entirely yeah, i'm with you there

not sure how many people that applies to

[fluid sapphire]

I am mostly curious about leo here with 20k hours xd

[valid glade]

guys maybe leo is insanely rich and doesn’t have to work

[knotty bear]

Dang, I have 32GB of ram but my card ain't great.

[fluid sapphire]

Just can't wrap my head around it

[abstract heron]

Or me 13hr to 15hr a day

On a good day

[little cobalt]

this is a game i tend to binge but only for periods of time with breaks in between

[abstract heron]

I only do summer of quiet due to heat

[sinful bobcat]

32 gigs
RX 7900 XT 20 gig edition

[rough shore]

19k hours since 2020 lets say 6 years of playing every day u need over 8 hours a day EVERY day

[fluid sapphire]

Alright leo, spill the beans, what do you do "for a living" or what's your situation

[abstract heron]

Won’t comment

[sinful bobcat]

FUCK 2020 WAS 6 YEARS AGO

[next ivy]

nuh uh

[abstract heron]

Steam release day

[sinful bobcat]

I started playing in.. pipe update

Still haven’t completed any play through, still haven’t beat 1.0 btw

[abstract heron]

Me on steam release day

[shadow glade]

Hey, does anyone have any recommendations for when you're just starting out in the game?

[little cobalt]

i got the game back when it was epic exclusive and haven't been able to convince myself to buy it a second time on the good game platform

[sinful bobcat]

I had a save at 800 hours for 1.0, but it spaghettid itself and became corrupted

[rough shore]

dont sleep on hard drives

[abstract heron]

I also use mods in my factory

[lean fossil]

Have yall ever split something 8 ways

[severe storm]

but it is 30% off rn on the good game platform

[abstract heron]

Balancer my friend

[whole robin]

Try to get to solid biofuel/coal as soon as possible, so you dont have to micromanage your power

[knotty bear]

Where's somewhere on the map with oil and copper.

[lean fossil]

My brain melted to shit I can't find a good tutorial 🙏

[rough shore]

over there

[abstract heron]

Radar tower

[whole robin]

Over yonder

[abstract heron]

Hi dyno bot

[little cobalt]

radar tower good

[abstract heron]

I have biome factory’s which I am doing

[knotty bear]

How do I get a slug that is trying to go into my awesome sink

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[knotty bear]

nvm got it

[abstract heron]

Awesome spilter

[whole robin]

Deconstruct the conveyor/sink then place it back down

[lean fossil]

shit I shouldn't have put them into a line.

[severe storm]

this game has revolutionized how i'll play factorio from now on

[abstract heron]

Really

[whole robin]

No, it should work if its in a line

Thats mainly where manifolds are used actually

[lean fossil]

oh well i did do that and it stopped at the 4th smelter

[little cobalt]

as long as each is consuming less than the belt input*

[rough shore]

do u have enough input

[whole robin]

Yeah, you have to be patient and the buffers inside the machines will fill, sending excess to the next one down the line

[lean fossil]

im getting 240

maybe I should upgrade my belt 🤔

[whole robin]

What belt are you using?

[rough shore]

mk2 prob if it stops at 4th smelter

[abstract heron]

Reason why I test every stage

[lean fossil]

what he said:

[rough shore]

well mk2 can only transport 120 u have 240

so u need a mk3 atleast which transports 270

[lean fossil]

jesus this will be a grind

all of this because of GREED

[whole robin]

If you have mk3 unlocked, just make a steel beam factory and use them by default

[little cobalt]

t3 belts are cheaper than t2

[lean fossil]

yeah but I'll js need this milestone

[lean nexus]

Whats a good quantity of encased steel beems to be making for storage

I started with planning for

120 - Steel Beams
60 - Steel Pipes
12.5 - Encased Beams

I think i should be making more encased beams?

[rough shore]

can u make more?

[lean nexus]

Yea, I need to figure out where to build it first, but Im thinking about dropping to 80 steel beams and 25.833 encased, based on 480 each of Iron Ore, Coal, and Limestone

[whole robin]

Do you have dimensional depots unlocked?

[lean nexus]

Thats a WIP right now

Im gonna make it once I setup the sam stuff and get some more spheres

I've been up to Phase 3 before, but restarted with 1.2, since I hadn't played my old world in a while and there was a lot of things I wanted to do different

[rough shore]

if u can make more make more

[lean fossil]

is trhere a way to make the dog GET OUT

[lean nexus]

Encased Beams are for Mk4 belts right?

[whole robin]

Also, try to tame dogs to get computers early so you can upload from your inventory

[rough shore]

also if u have the right alternate recipes a steel pipe costs around 0.33 iron ore

[lean nexus]

Also I want the alt recipie for the iron ingot + coal -> steel right, thats better than the coal coke alt recipie

[lean fossil]

is there a way to make him stop following me yo

[floral sparrow]

I have about 110 power shards lying around and I'm at tier 4. Do you think it's worth it to spend shards on overclocking a whole standard 8-coal-generator power setup for now to keep my machines fed for a long while?

[sterile blade]

Build something around it (or lead it into an enclosed building)

[jagged nymph]

no alterante recipes are better than otherse, they all have their use cases, their pros and cons

[feral vector]

ok doing conveyors underneath my factory floor isn't that hard at all

[lean nexus]

From what I calculated, I can get more steel from the iron and coal from the Solid Steel Ingot recipie

[whole robin]

Put him in a pen somewhere using foundations, check in on it every once in a while, and sometimes it'll give high tier items as a gift

[lean nexus]

well thats obvious but im using satis tools

[rough shore]

uh no

[jagged nymph]

uh yes

[rough shore]

nuh uh?

[lean nexus]

I guess Its time to go harddrive and artifact hunting

[feral vector]

I've played for like 3 hours and all I've done is get everything I'm manufacturing to go to storages with overflows to sinks

[jagged nymph]

give one example where an alternate recipe is objectively better than another one, where there would be absolutely no reason to use a different one

[sterile blade]

I think you'll perfectly get your point across if you repeat it just one more time...

[lean nexus]

The heavy frames alt recipie

[jagged nymph]

which one

[floral sparrow]

Biocoal/charcoal (no reason to use a limited resource for an unlimited one)

[rough shore]

hmm stitched plate and iron wire?

cheaper and faster

[whole robin]

Encased frames?

[lean nexus]

yea

[rough shore]

and absolutely any recipe that removes screws?

[lean nexus]

that one, I had to look it up

I use some reddit page with a "tier list" of whats best based on different factors

[jagged nymph]

stitched plate: if you dont have extra copper to use on it, or you just want the simplicity of using only iron

iron wire: if you dont have extra copper to use on it, also its more efficient to use copper

[rough shore]

i meant stitched plate + iron wire pal

u use iron wire for the wire and stitched plate to use the wire from the iron wire its just cheaper and has higher output

[floral sparrow]

I'm still fairly new—out of curiosity, what inspires the trend of phasing out screws?

[rough shore]

quantity

[jagged nymph]

nothing, people are just too lazy to use like 3 belts instead of 1

[fierce sigil]

You need too many for the default recipes, and belts have a hard time transporting that kind of quantity

[lean nexus]

Im making 300 screws a min rn for no reason, they go into storage lmao

[jagged nymph]

only the early belts, like mk3+ have no issues, you jsut might need a few belts if youre making alot of stuff with screws in one area

[plucky bone]

If I use Mk 2 pipes when not needed is that a bad thing?

[sterile blade]

Throwing Copper rotor in the bin?!
Such heresy that one is a fast boi! (Like most screw-related recipes, actually, but not as much ore-consuming)

[jagged nymph]

why are you storing them? the only thing that uses them is the awesome shop

that you build

[floral sparrow]

Maybe to swim in them like Scrooge McDuck

[lean nexus]

It was for handcrafting the other plates but I dont need to do that anymore, I gotta revamp the starting factory still

[lean fossil]

is there a button for multi wiring

[leaden turret]

this is a "small amount" of screws: #screenshots message

[lean nexus]

That is no screws wym

[sterile blade]

If you have the power for it, slapping down a few assemblers that you then hand-feed can be much faster than handcrafting (the 2 can be done at the same time too...)

[fierce sigil]

That wasn't what you were saying at all, lol. I need coffee

[lean nexus]

Im making 40/min now so I am big chillin

I built a 40/m reinforced + 20/m mod frame factory

Im over 1500 MW max consume and I dont got steel setup yet 😢

[little cobalt]

there are definitely alt recipes that are significantly cheaper and/or easier than the defaults. most can be useful in certain situations, and tier lists aren't all that helpful though- agreed there.

diluted fuel for example is just crazy good

[sterile blade]

Tier lists are subjective, but some seem to forget that or be actually convinced that they are objective ^^

[jagged nymph]

but they also either use more power, more space, have less throughput, etc. Theres always some downside that may make you want to use another one

[floral sparrow]

Damn. Is it all right to stick with screws for smaller recipes like rotors? For example, here is my first rotor factory that I built recently#screenshots message

[sterile blade]

Meh, hardly. Most alt recipes offer clear advantages with relatively small disadvantages (if any) compared to standard recipes. Simple example: cast screw

[normal orbit]

why wouldnt it be?

[jagged nymph]

theres no reason to get rid of screws unless youre allergic to using 1 or 2 exrta belts sometimes

[leaden turret]

iirc, those were the screws for heavy modular frames. the screws for rotors were exiting earlier off to the left of shot

[jagged nymph]

like i never understood the screw hate, screws are fine, theyre easy, and yeah theyre high throughput, but you can just use like a few extra belts if you cant fit em on one

[lean nexus]

if cast screws made 60/min I would be happy

[leaden turret]

is baby/micro factory. is fine. 😛

[little cobalt]

it's just 'cause they are annoying early game before you get the good belts

[lean nexus]

balancing a ton of 50s into 120s is exciting

[crude canyon]

anyone else not being able to vc people?

[normal orbit]

can make it giev 60/min

[sterile blade]

Change the clock so they do

[jagged nymph]

50*12=600, 600/5=120

[leaden turret]

no voice chat in this server because it's not feasible to moderate

[jagged nymph]

just put grok in vc to moderate it tbh

[leaden turret]

hard focken no there

[jagged nymph]

what oculd possibly go wrong??

[little cobalt]

grok show me the alpha stinger in a bikini /j

[lean nexus]

when you got 120 belts though

[jagged nymph]

load balancer

[lean nexus]

I rushed smart splitters for it

[leaden turret]

@little cobalt called it

[stoic hedge]

discords having issues again 😭

[jagged nymph]

wdym

[stoic hedge]

Investigating - We're aware of an issue that is preventing people from connecting to Discord - we're actively investigating
Mar 25, 2026 - 12:21 PDT

[jagged nymph]

im not having any issues

[sterile blade]

Some people curse them; some people tinker and find ways to make them work
I always find it funny how one can finish the game and restart just to finally realize "huh, I COULD run a rotor Assembler at 100% with MK1 belts... I just had to go through the whole game to know enough to tell..."

[stoic hedge]

connectivity is a problem rn so who knows

[leaden turret]

as unpleasant as some elements of this community are, I don't want it to be considered a welcome place to fans of captain transphobe mcasshat's [redacted] tech

[jagged nymph]

i think grok would be a great moderator wdym

[sterile blade]

Let's not push any more politics in the chat...

[leaden turret]

please tell me if you're joking so I know whether to roll my eyes or block you

[jagged nymph]

im obviously joking 😭

[leaden turret]

if it were obvious I wouldn't be asking

[jagged nymph]

no i actually thought the ai that called itself "mecha-hitler" would be a good moderator

[leaden turret]

there are idiots on the internet that legit think that tho

[jagged nymph]

true...

[ornate saffron]

To be fair we read more ridiculous things in the news daily

[jagged nymph]

also true

[ornate saffron]

Easier to get your maple syrup from the russians

[keen flame]

new pfp

to me it is new

[hollow vector]

just exploded my self while using cluster nobelisks midair in a hypertube cannon

cat videos are the highest qualiy form of media

[leaden turret]

[hollow vector]

luna is secretly the gamer using the computer

[lean nexus]

Any suggestions for where to build steel factory?

[hollow vector]

did you spawn in the grass fields?

[lean nexus]

Yea, I was looking at the place to the right thats grayish color

[hollow vector]

crater lake?

if your in early game id actually just use the coal for coal powerplants

[lean nexus]

Im past that already

Im staring at satis calc map lol

[hollow vector]

oh then i dont have that much of a say for it

[quaint goblet]

is this the actual pressure conversion cube

can i get your autograph

[hollow vector]

quite possibly

[hollow vector]

-pressureconversioncube

[quaint goblet]

thanks

[hybrid jewel]

Wow, coffestain have some russian developers

[lean nexus]

Whats the grayish colored area bottom right of the map called?

[hollow vector]

crater lake afaik

currently have my fuel power plant over there

[lean nexus]

Thats where ive had one before

[rough shore]

why do in game notes not work i type 10 it does
1
0

[lean nexus]

I do my coal power north west of the grass fields spawn, not sure what its called, big lake with waterfall+cave

[hybrid jewel]

I didnt know it was so cool, now I love this studio even more

[lean nexus]

I was stupid and forgot to place a mam and start researching hard drives right when I got the first one

[hybrid jewel]

Oh come on, lets do it without politics

[hollow vector]

@lean nexus turns out according to scim its actually just called blue crater

[lean nexus]

The first place I mentioned?

[hollow vector]

yeah

[lean nexus]

I googled crater lake and thats where I do my power

I still gotta do compacted coal, but idk if I am going to

[hollow vector]

i mean sulfur is quite close

[hybrid jewel]

Stop pointing at my messages 😡

[next ivy]

coffee stoner

[rough shore]

why are the notes like this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1486454843013861617/prwppsn.png?ex=69c59073&is=69c43ef3&hm=52be5958482f2ec1a5061a063586f6438c43f6d6f7f2d09544cc605e576f5bc2&

[lean nexus]

Yea Ik but lazy lol

[hollow vector]

fair enough

[jagged nymph]

cause of a known ui bug

idk if theres a fix

[lean nexus]

Text space prob isnt wide enough lol

[jagged nymph]

other than waiting for css to fix it

[random haven]

I need to start making a storage platform lol.

[lean nexus]

Wait I get Miner Mk2 soon, so I can do 270 per node, I am on all pure nodes lol

[jagged nymph]

? you can do that with mk1

[lean nexus]

I meant with the belts

[jagged nymph]

huh

you mean you got mk3 belt?

[lean nexus]

You can get 270 out of mk1, but you cant take 270 outr until I do Logi Mk3

[jagged nymph]

so you meant you get mk3 belt soon, not mk2 miner

[lean nexus]

Which is soon, prob gonna build encased beams as it own thing

[cold berry]

My steel factory is running okay. I want to expand from 3 foundry's to 6.

[lean nexus]

yea lol

[jagged nymph]

i see

i was confused

[rough shore]

but u need mk2 miner to get mk3 belts so

[lean nexus]

Me too

[rough shore]

nvm no

[jagged nymph]

why not like 34

[rough shore]

i mixed up advanced steel production with basic steel

[lean nexus]

Encased Beams gonna be its own thing

[cold berry]

I was thinking I need to set my sights higher. I'll go 12.

[rough shore]

at least

[timid ledge]

is this a common problem ? i pressing Q and it laggs ? xD

[jagged nymph]

i have 43

[random haven]

When do you guys set out to actually start building a base with building stuff. lol Still purely living otu of the HUB

[jagged nymph]

i dont

i move my hub around to wherever is convenient at the time

[cold berry]

I set up a 10-plant fully over clocked coal power plant to finish out phase 2. This is my second playthrough. I quit after oil on the last one tho

[lean nexus]

I build all outpost bases, I used to build all in one spot and move all the resources, but I like modular outpost factories, rather than 1 huge one

[timid ledge]

is this a common problem ? i pressing Q and it laggs ? xD

[lean nexus]

Im gonna tilt if I dont get Solid steel ingot from this hard drive

I got Iron Alloy Ingot and Bolted Frame w/ rescan availablew

[little cobalt]

yeah it turns out generalizing large groups of people is a bad idea :)

[cold berry]

Can you get rid of the drive items I don't use anymore? I don't wanna see awakened SAM or SAM anymore lol

[rough shore]

ive looked around like 25 hard drives to get it i dont even have that many alt recipes unlocked and yet it took a while

[little cobalt]

yes i have a black cat i love with all my heart

[lean nexus]

Im adoping a black cat this week, she is 1. She has to get medically cleared before I can take her home though

[hybrid jewel]

Ehm, no? Only my parrot, once i picked up a stray kitten and put it in good hands

Im really tired of the whole situation in the world. Crazy people rule the media and redo the laws, while the rest of the quiet population has to sit and remain silent. Its good that im an escapist and can build factories all day long

We do not share any profanities in my family

[lean nexus]

Discord really got me making Steam Voice Chat rn

[hybrid jewel]

Yeah

[white dawn]

-# the family that profanes together stays together!

[hybrid jewel]

Right

[lean fossil]

Should i make a whole ass different mining thingy ma thing js to make steel beams or do I js use the thing I already have

[floral sparrow]

Is placing multiple floating mergers/splitters just tedious or is there a tool/function to help place them faster? So far I've been aligning on my foundation then nudging all the way up into place

[little cobalt]

you'll need both beams and encased beams moving forward. do with that knowledge what you will

[lean fossil]

I have no brain.

[lean fossil]

Yet I must scream

[hybrid jewel]

I love animals, even some snails and caterpillars. I remember, i picked up such a baby in the middle of the road, fed him with some leaves at home and let him wait out the winter, and then released a beautiful and large butterfly into nature

[severe storm]

yeah you probably should to future proof

to put it simply

[lean fossil]

The sad thing is I LOVE DOING PURE SHIT

MOST OF MY FACTORIES ARE PURE

should I js settle for normal?

[severe storm]

i mean it's up to how you wanna play the game

[little cobalt]

i'd rather build my factories around normal nodes at your stage personally. pure nodes can be better utilized later on with better belts. but yeah it's a sandbox, you can do whatever you want

[lean fossil]

ic.

[severe storm]

for now normal is definitely fine, and it's fairly easy to come back later and add another line of ore

[valid glade]

why not just play with all pure nodes then

[lean fossil]

bazingo

[severe storm]

the biggest thing is just try to use a tile-able design so that you can expand it later if needed

[lean fossil]

The coal is 1000 km away.

This will be the least efficient facto

wait cant i js use trucks

[severe storm]

in that case, use factory carts to transport your coal long distance

[lean fossil]

or not...

"100 rotors"

What's funny is I did this JUST for my reinforced iron plate factory

Now I'm gonna make another factory before being done with that.

[severe storm]

it's ok, the pure persistence to avoid hand crafting items will drive you to the finish line

[lean fossil]

I can be petty enough to avoid automating something.

This is why I'm making a reinforced iron farm after phase 1.

I am STUPID

[severe storm]

the screws will beat you into submission

[lean fossil]

Eh it's fine I have a mock-lightsaber now.

[lean fossil]

NOPE I'm gonna use my reinforced iron farm and make it so that overflow goes into a giant storage container for screws.

[severe storm]

yeah good luck with that

[humble osprey]

i just got an idea

yk how u got two rails for bi directional movement right??

[lean fossil]

what

[humble osprey]

what if i make a third rail for personal transport

[humble osprey]

like trains dude. people usually make two rails so the trains can go both wats

ways

[lean fossil]

Wouldn't you need 4 rails then.

[humble osprey]

????

[lean fossil]

2 rails so it can go both ways.

then another 2 so you can go both ways.... for personal transport

right?...or am I being stupid

[humble osprey]

no ill need only one

[rough shore]

why two for personal transport

[humble osprey]

cuz that rail is reserved just for me

theres no risk of collision

[rough shore]

also why personal transport when no personal transport?

[lean fossil]

is there a way to b hop faster.

other than sliding

[normal orbit]

tracks can be driven on in either direction. people make two rails for each direction just to allow more than one train to occupy the tracks

[normal orbit]

do it on a belt

[humble osprey]

use conveyer belts as personal boosters in places with high foot traffic

[humble osprey]

yeah exactly, i was gonna build a third track thats always gonna be empty unless when i wanna go somewhere

[normal orbit]

it kinda makes a third rail not necessary

[humble osprey]

cuz i have a mod that makes trains like 5x faster so its genuinely a valid transport mechanism

[jagged nymph]

i need to get these motors automated soo badly but i have other projects to do first

[humble osprey]

i like digging my foot into the accelerate when IM using the railway to transport
what ends up happening is that i collide straight into the back of an unsuspecting train on autopilot

[normal orbit]

automated trains should drive at max speed unless you're overloading them so they go slower

[rough shore]

is there a mod to make notes have no character limit or something

[humble osprey]

they slow down at junctions tho

and the max speed is 800kmph
trains only reach that speed if they have no reason to slow down on a path
realistically, there is always a junction ahead and close enough that if they reach those speeds they wont be able to slow down fast emough, so the ai never lets them reach the max speed

they usually hover around 400-600

which is pretty bad when i come along at 800

[lean fossil]

is there a multi wire button

[jagged nymph]

?

[rough shore]

did u not ask that before

[lean fossil]

like...multi wire..

[jagged nymph]

wdym "multiwire"

[lean fossil]

Yeah nobody answered I think...

unless someone has replys off

[rough shore]

also wdym multi wire

[jagged nymph]

well if you dont elaborate on what ""multi wire" means you wont get an answer

[lean fossil]

Like I keep having to click on the wire click on the machine then click back on the wire and then click back on the other machine

[jagged nymph]

no

actually maybe if you hold shift or control

but i dont think so

[rough shore]

no idea

[normal orbit]

click back on wire?

just build wire from point to point?

[jagged nymph]

theyre too lazy to do that

[lean fossil]

nope ig it dont exist

[glass root]

anyone elses discord not working? I cant voicecall

[lean fossil]

go to discord support ig?

[normal orbit]

yes discord voice is down

[rough shore]

its an automation game without automatic wires 🙄

[tall lantern]

assume you do at least have cable on your hotbar

you aren't just going back into the full build menu each time

[jagged nymph]

theres an item called "automated wiring"

[rough shore]

doesnt do its job

[jagged nymph]

yeah it does it automates wiring

[rough shore]

nuh uh

[normal orbit]

it does it job of completing a parts delivery to the space elevator

[lean fossil]

guess whose power ran out..

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))$!@($I!@()%@!JKI%)!*(@J%K@*I(

fuck i almost did a mlg zipline

[covert valley]

are trucks more efficent than a belt?

[jagged nymph]

define "more efficient"

they are just different

they have pros and cons

[covert valley]

like speeds i guess, i am on tractor or tier 2 belt to transport coal from picture below

[jagged nymph]

well with trucks, you can always just add more on the route to get more throughput

[covert valley]

bruh can i not put a picture

[jagged nymph]

no

[covert valley]

okay i guess ill mess with them at some point i jut built the entire belt line and dont feel like changing it rn

[jagged nymph]

if you already have the belt built you may aswell keep it

unless you dont like the look

no reason to replace existing, functioning infrastructure

[normal orbit]

the idea with vehicles and trains is you can very easily expand on them without having to drag belts across the map

[spare prism]

hi

[little cobalt]

you can beat the whole game with belted resources so it's really a matter of preference

[leaden turret]

trains can't hold up your pants

[little cobalt]

i took the path of least resistance with long belts then eventually drones. but the other options are very neat and worth considering if you want to see more of what the game offers

[feral vector]

you'd think the 4th time I set up a row of 8 coal gens I'd know how to do it without messing something up lol

[feral vector]

no transportation until drones sounds like such a hassle

[little cobalt]

to each their own :)
belts are transportation in their own right

[plucky bone]

Yes! Phase 4!! Right on. But I think I'm gonna redo 90% of my place. Maybe eeven move. Any suggestions for a good spot? No spoilers just say north center west something like that. I started in the grasslands in the south.

even*

[reef basin]

why redo? just build new and keep old

[valid sigil]

I’ve recently unlocked drones and was wondering what their use case is. Do you use them for new resources that don’t have belts yet?

[feral vector]

you don't need to redo anything just leave it lol it's free stuff getting produced

[plucky bone]

True. I wanna move some parts into factories. Too much spaghetti

[feral vector]

I just spent a bunch of time refactoring my main factory and it seems like it was a waste of time lol

oh no I'm not putting half my stuff in a sink and some storages are overflowing... doesn't really matter from what I can tell as long as I'm automating a few important things

[rough shore]

u can maybe further optimize something

[reef basin]

rebuilding is indeed mostly waste of time

[feral vector]

time is better spent setting up a new factory, no?

I just redid the storage and got sinks working in my main factory cause I wanted to figure out how that stuff works, was definitely overkill

[rough shore]

i mean there is no time limit so u can really just rebuild as much as u want doesnt really matter

[feral vector]

putting belts under the floor sure is nice glad I figured out how the conveyor lift floor holes work

[rough shore]

maybe to optimize or just make it look cooler or i mean yeah u can just set it

[plucky bone]

I don't think so. I'm picky like that. But yes 90% goes to the sink lol. But the added ons are slapped on not nice like. Just started making nicer builds and want it all like that. Plus my storage needs to move cuz I use the overflow to make stuff and I can't get at much anymore. Just needs some "Love"

[fluid sapphire]

To each their own, I nuked my whole world to basically start over with all the stuff I unlocked in phase 4

I built a giant power bank and warehouse to get me started

[plucky bone]

Space elevator part stuff is all over and messy. The basics are good.

[feral vector]

you can literally just put a foundation above your current setup and leave that setup alone though, why delete anything?

[plucky bone]

I send a pic or 2 of my mess in #design-and-architecture in a min.

[fluid sapphire]

Wasn't happy with the way I was building and needed a fresh start 🤷

[feral vector]

setting up a new storage and warehouse sounds smart I'm gonna do that when I get mk4 belts and stuff

[fluid sapphire]

It was worth it

[plucky bone]

I couldn't. It's like a bandaid when you need surgery.

[fluid sapphire]

Relatable

Or... Need a sledgehammer

[feral vector]

you can have a fresh start without destroying anything though? 🤔

[fluid sapphire]

Mental clutter my guy

I can't have that exist in my world

[feral vector]

put walls around it XD

[little cobalt]

they are ideal when you have more power than you know how to use, are lazy, and want to move low-throughput items around. most efficient when going (very) long distance but as long as your production stays fed it doesn't really matter

[plucky bone]

Yes I use my storage so 2 containers fill then when the big one starts that is used to make stuff. That way I always have 2 small tainers of everything I make.

[feral vector]

I thought I was a pefectionist yall got me beat tho lol

[fluid sapphire]

Too spread out and chaotic

[feral vector]

I aint deleting my shitty starter factory I'm gonna laugh when I look at it later on and see how awful it was

[plucky bone]

Perfectionist. You have no idea.

"Me"

[little cobalt]

wall around it and make it a museum 🤝

[feral vector]

the only thing I did properly was my new motor production chain and even that was a bit janky

[fluid sapphire]

I can load a save from 1.5 years ago for that haha, but no, I remember exactly what everything I ever built looks like

[feral vector]

nice to finally do something with perfect efficiency

[plucky bone]

Although I just found this nice spot by all the waterfalls. Didn't know this was across the void.

[feral vector]

but I'm so damn slow that I'm gonna stockpile like 2 large storage of motors XD

[little cobalt]

motors are an excellent thing to have "too many" of

[plucky bone]

Southwest corner I think

[feral vector]

I know that I'll need way more of everything than I can possibly imagine but for now it's kinda ridiculous to have so many lol

I'm progress blocked until I can get some oil production byproducts, game is forcing me to finally explore

[little cobalt]

some things you can easily overproduce but motors are not one of them imo. they are used for lots of goodies

[feral vector]

I still gotta set up storage for like 3 more things too I think... quickwire, steel beams, steel pipes

two large containers full of beams and one of pipes should be enough or what? not sure how much to sink

and one large storage container of quickwire seems fine too hmm

[feral vector]

fair enough, glad I got them automated before I messed with all my storage stuff

[little cobalt]

one container of QW is plenty for personal use but most of your production of it will be for other parts later on

[oblique aspen]

one industrial container of everything is plenty, maybe two of concrete if you do big builds

assumign there is actually production behind it to refill them in real time 😛

[feral vector]

two of beams since they are for my current belts?

[oblique aspen]

you wont need that many for belts

[feral vector]

idk lol this SAM is really far away

[little cobalt]

for beams and pipes i tend to just build a massive tower of ind. containers and (eventually) a ||dimensional depot|| on top

[feral vector]

is the spoiler a depot?

alright I figure just saying depot is vague enough that someone who wants no spoilers won't get it, thanks

this game has too much to do I can't focus on anything my poor ADHD

[fluid sapphire]

Depending on building habits, a single container can be laughably little

Even for stuff other than concrete

[sinful bobcat]

See you got the ADHD type that nerfs you

Not the one that buffs you

[plucky bone]

I threw a few pics up for ya.

[reef basin]

it depends on uploading/filling speed, not size of a buffer

[fluid sapphire]

Sure it does, a buffer makes a big difference

[little cobalt]

once you get t4 belts you'll wanna use those heavily since the 480 number is much friendlier for math

[feral vector]

I still need to process some SAM, I need to go find oil, I need to get more sloops so I can start doubling output of power slugs and other stuff, I need hard drives I've only found 3, I need mycelia I completely forgot about those

[little cobalt]

so i'd make sure you have those going too

[feral vector]

I mean my t3 belts all get loaded with 240/min anyway

[feral vector]

I forgot depots are on this list too lol so much stuff to do

[fluid sapphire]

A larger buffer can let you get away with much less production

[sinful bobcat]

Do we have to spoiler stuff other than the ending anymore, it’s been 2 years 😂

[feral vector]

so what do you recommend? a couple storage containers?

[little cobalt]

that's perfect; once you upgrade you can just double / overclock everything in the chain and double your output :)

[feral vector]

I'd appreciate it but I wouldn't be too angry lol I'm not trying to go completely blind but I'm also trying not to look everything up and ruin my first playthrough

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

I jest, but my smallest setups have like 7-8

[plucky bone]

What you need mycelia for? I don't use it even.

[sinful bobcat]

I haven’t completed the game, don’t worry so I don’t really know the ending

[little cobalt]

mycelia is great biomass and also used for your first gas filters

[feral vector]

jesus lmao, surely I don't need that many containers early-midgame

[feral vector]

idk the MAM stuff, I wanted a parachute but I ended up getting a jetpack first cause I forgot about mushrooms

didn't realize you can chainsaw them rip

[fluid sapphire]

Some things are nice to have lots of in storage, like motors, rubber, if you decide to build fuel power

[plucky bone]

Ah. I got a chute but never use it anymore.

[fluid sapphire]

Generators eat through motors, rubber and quickwire quick

[feral vector]

I wanted to get one and set up a hyperloop to launch myself places but I had other stuff to do first

[hallow crow]

i wanna try get satisfactory to run on my buns laptop, any tips?

[sinful bobcat]

The mall hungers

[feral vector]

zipline are fast enough lol

[fluid sapphire]

My storage is all over, maybe at some point as a side project

[feral vector]

hmmm maybe I'll keep two containers of quickwire and motors and rubber and concrete or something

[little cobalt]

enclose your factories with walls so they aren't always rendered. but you can only do so much; blood from a stone and all

[hidden sluice]

We need to be able to Zoop Ceiling Lights

[sinful bobcat]

Usually by aluminum I have a factory that kinda just makes all them tier 1-2 things and later tier 3-4 stuff all into 1 mall and DD

[hallow crow]

i meant to get it to run it 😭 i get 10 fps on my laptop in the menu

[fluid sapphire]

I'm not so sure that's entirely foolproof, encasing 8000 power storage did little to help my case

[lime furnace]

can anyone point me to the daisy chain research on the experimental branch?

[hallow crow]

btw i play on my pc mainly

[clear aspen]

Under power line mk3

[hallow crow]

any performance mods or sm

[lime furnace]

your kidding me

[valid glade]

yeah 10fps in menu there’s nothing fixing that experience

[little cobalt]

you're doomed, sorry. you could try reinstalling your gpu drivers but i doubt it'll make a major difference

[valid glade]

sorry bro 😭

[hallow crow]

yeah no

[valid glade]

bros laptop is a chromebook 😭😭🙏🏻

[hallow crow]

dell vostro 3520

[feral vector]

any real need to upgrade power poles? or add some power towers? I guess towers would be awesome for ziplines hmmm

[hallow crow]

old asf

[sinful bobcat]

Air port

[fluid sapphire]

Most of the shacks around here make building materials for me #screenshots message

[valid glade]

yeah that makes sense

atleast you have your main pc

[little cobalt]

yeah power storage is mostly static so idt it would help too much for them. i meant moreso things that animate, like belts and other machines

[valid glade]

yo your world looks awesome goodjob bro

[little cobalt]

yeah that looks sick, nice work

[feral vector]

huh lol

[sinful bobcat]

Air port

[little cobalt]

towers are nice because you can easily see them when you're out and about checking for a place to plug in

also good platforms for fighting and, as you already mentioned, ziplines

[valid sigil]

Before I built a hypertube, zip lining between power poles was my main method of transport

[sinful bobcat]

I just have a global train network and then slap down a train and go

[little cobalt]

they can stay relevant for basically ever since ziplining also counts as ground for refueling your jetpack

[loud sable]

I got the game 2 days ago and I already have 19 hours in it--

Satan have mercy on my soul, because we're bout to meet soon at this rate-

[valid sigil]

And once you get a hover pack, you can catch yourself on the wires if you’re too far away from anything to recharge

[mental torrent]

hey does anyone else's game look like potato grahpics on ultra settings?

[plucky bone]

I zipline to my refinery or take a truck when exploring. Works so good for pillars and I get to run things over. Short trips I run/slide ya know

[valid sigil]

have you got upscaling enabled? would be my first thought

like DLSS on ultra performance or something lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro using DLSS 5 kek

[little cobalt]

i was hopeful that the Explorer would be useful for, y'know, exploring, again in the exp update but it still handles like a bar of soap

[mortal ginkgo]

game is way too vertical to explore with explorer. that is something I sadly accepted...

[little cobalt]

many moons ago it was actually good

[valid sigil]

using the explorer is 50% rebuilding it to get it unstuck

[little cobalt]

or at least helpful

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah I heard such tales.

[plucky bone]

Haven't tried that one yet.

[mental torrent]

yeah for some reason it was sticking after i disabled it, but restarting fixed it

[valid sigil]

I’ve just started producing aluminum and it’s cool how it’s more involved than just mine ore > smelt ingot. no idea how I’ll manage all the inputs / outputs on a larger scale

[hidden sluice]

Aluminum is my favorite item to make in the game

There are so many ways to do it

[jagged nymph]

yeah its pretty fun

[plucky bone]

ADA's message was funny AF into tier 4

[proven snow]

If you have everything already set up, not rly. But the upgraded ones are very nice for setting up a factory so you can do 10 poles rather than spamming like 100

[valid sigil]

and soon, 0 poles

[jagged nymph]

well you still need some

[valid sigil]

true 😔

[jagged nymph]

way less than before thourhg

[proven snow]

I’ll be unlocking that soon, gonna be fun to try out

[little cobalt]

daisy chaining is amazing. i hope it is made a little quicker to access though. gating it behind oil or crash site looting is a little lame imo

[jagged nymph]

yeaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i dont think it should even be a mam research tbh

or if it is, atleast earlier in the caterium tree

[valid sigil]

It does kinda feel like a mechanic that would just be in the game from the beginning

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[little cobalt]

it makes sense in the caterium tree i think. it's all about making your electronics better

moving it up 1 tier to come before/equal to pole mk2 is a good fit

[jagged nymph]

it does also make mk2/3 pole essentially obsolete

[valid sigil]

all this daisy chaining talk has me thinking back to the days of mk1 power poles and biomass generators

[jagged nymph]

the horror...

[valid sigil]

40 power poles and they’re all 4/4

[jagged nymph]

yheah.

[valid sigil]

Disconnect 1 and the entire factory fails

[tall lantern]

but then the mk2s actually feel good when you get them

[little cobalt]

much less relevant fs but still handy. even with chaining i like having a pole for each of my sets of machines in production lines

[valid sigil]

What if mk2 / mk3 increased the number of connections each building had

[jagged nymph]

that doesnt seem super useful

[tall lantern]

what if power lines had a max power and higher tier poles gave a higher limit

(please no)

[little cobalt]

having 3 slots would enable continued chaining down 1 set of machines while also powering a separate set of machines

[jagged nymph]

i mean having one more connection on each would be kinda nice cause you can branch off a machine onto a new line but after that its not really necessary

[jagged nymph]

OH GOD NO

[tall lantern]

I think daisychain should come after mk2 poles but probably before mk3. It's not super often you actually need mk3s, can't remember the last time I built one intentionally

the jump from 2 extra connections to 5 is already plenty (or from 3 to 6 on a double wall mount)

[valid sigil]

each tier has a different max operating temperature and you have to calculate your load

[plucky bone]

I use one post a machine in nice lines. MK 2 is nice for intersections but I have posts all over. Can def see I knew nothing to begin with here.

[little cobalt]

save it for satisfactory 2 😭

[valid sigil]

Have any of you experienced the 1.2 weather effects / rain?

what’s it like

[south sinew]

#satisfactory-experimental

[little cobalt]

very cool and ambient

they did nice work on the audio. perfect transitions from interior to exterior with rain on roof sounds

[plucky bone]

Can you replace foundation like you can a post?

[tall lantern]

sorta

[valid sigil]

Ooo that sounds lovely. I’ll sit in my factory sipping pretend coffee, while sitting in my house and sipping real coffee

[tall lantern]

you can change their material with the customiser, can't swap a 4m for a 2m or whatever though

[plucky bone]

Ok. Yes just the basic ones to glossy concrete.

Not size

[latent heron]

excuse me, do yall usually place the coal generator close to the water extractor

or is it okay to have them separated from each other

[cloud halo]

Did you know? If you sync drinking coffee irl and in satisfactory, youll get a build tool irl?

[tall lantern]

pretty close normally

[latent heron]

is there a reason why?

[plucky bone]

Lift

[valid sigil]

I hope it’s gold irl too

[tall lantern]

a) why move resources unnecessarily
b) easier to move solids than fluids

[little cobalt]

avoiding headlift makes water a zillion times simpler

[mortal ginkgo]

easier to just pole the power to your base since almost all coal in starter areas are close to water

[valid sigil]

yeah my coal generators were like 30 meters away from a puddle, and the coal was belted a few hundred meters

to those that build aesthetically pleasing factories, at what point in the process do you start decorating? As you’re expanding, or once an area is functional?

I’m very very new to building decoratively and I’m curious to hear how others do it

[latent heron]

i see, because i have my coal generators hella far from the water source since its where me and friend decided to place it. and only now i started to wonder if the range affects the pipes flow

[tall lantern]

usually more the height that causes issues, as well as complexity in general

it's just simpler to build the gens by the water

[valid sigil]

Ultimately you can use pumps for headlift but as others have said it’s slightly more annoying

[lethal sandal]

i request aid for i am now blind, i cant find where to edit blueprint location

nor rember how to drag the damn things, click and hold aint working

[little cobalt]

press H then use arrow keys + pgUp pgDown to nudge

hold ctrl to do a smaller nudge

[lethal sandal]

wrong blueprint but the small nudge is very nice to know

[little cobalt]

you mean like categories?

hit edit in the menu

[fluid sapphire]

Heh, thanks ya'll

[lethal sandal]

i dont see edit, thats the issue

[crude canyon]

can I see that world for myself?

like can I get the save or a tour

[fluid sapphire]

I can DM you the save

[proud cave]

What's generally the best way to connect all the resource node outputs when working with a mega factory?

[little cobalt]

can you take a screenshot of your blueprints page? i don't really understand

[reef basin]

generally we don't recommend making a megafactory

but if you really want to, using any of the available transportation options is fine

[lethal sandal]

i send in dm's idk the proper channels

[reef basin]

any apart from this

[lethal sandal]

huh

well to late, its already sent

[timid rune]

I wonder if a 30 Thermal Propulsion Rocket / min falls under a megafactory category hah

[little cobalt]

looks like a bug to me. tried restarting the game?

[lethal sandal]

i just did

[reef basin]

"megafactory" is a gameplay style, not factory size

it means "all production in one place"

[timid rune]

yeah I still have rubber and Fused Modular frame done elsewhere from the core then

[proud cave]

I'm thinking of doing a kind of branching root way to connect them. I have the megafactory within the general center of the map where I then plant to have individual back and forth train lines connecting to collection facilities in the center of each biome

And then each node is just connected to each facility via belts

[timid rune]

did have quite a bit of fun sorting out the fun of 375 motors/min

[little cobalt]

no change?

[lethal sandal]

nope, im trying reverts rn

i blame god

[little cobalt]

hmmm. i've definitely had the bp page act up and need a reload before (like not displaying changes). never seen the edit button disappear though

[lethal sandal]

who do i poke for this?

[little cobalt]

probably the bug report website

[feral vector]

if I got the 2500 versatile framework for phase 3 should I keep making them or just pause those assemblers

[little cobalt]

but you could try backing up all your current BPs, then deleting them, then creating a new BP in-game

[lime furnace]

is there a difference between the colors on the vehicle path blocks?

[lethal sandal]

i would, but i dont know where the file is

oh my fucking god chole

were stupid

[little cobalt]

did u need to scroll down?

[lethal sandal]

1 button away

[little cobalt]

you should have an edit button on the bp page either way so i still think it's bugged

glad it's working after setting a category via the designer though :)

[lethal sandal]

now the extra annoying part, makeing the blueprints pretty now

[lean fossil]

Yall make things...pretty?..

[jagged nymph]

i make concrete

[lean fossil]

I'm revolted by my starter iron plate and rod farm.

[jagged nymph]

factory*****

aktshooaly

[lean fossil]

My friend js attached a miner to an impure resource node and he called it a factory 🙏

[lean fossil]

(and also crafted concrete)

[valid sigil]

Heart is in the right place

[jagged nymph]

i rememeber in my first playthrough where my friend was teaching me the most automation he did was placing a miner on an iron node and then having a belt come off of it and spamming e to grab iron ore off the end

[jagged nymph]

and then hand crafting everything

[lean fossil]

That's what matters

[lean fossil]

my FUCKING GOD

[jagged nymph]

he said, and i quote, "factories are like super lategame"

[valid sigil]

my first factories all tried to perfectly balance every crafter using 15 splitters and mergers