satisfactory

[ornate frost]

could sink it

or underclock buildings

are you on pc or console?

[rigid surge]

underclock your machines to only make the amount you need

[abstract girder]

pc

[ornate frost]

you could try satisfactory modeler on steam, its free, it definitely helped me a ton

[golden sail]

thanks bruh i hadnt thought about that

[abstract girder]

I hope I can create my own schematic there because the Satisfactory Tools website provides the schematic directly, and I don't want that.

[tall lantern]

modeler's a different type of planner to tools, more aimed at the individual logistics of a factory

[misty garnet]

why whenever i use maximize on satisfactory tools it uses sam

what does sam do to help

[rigid surge]

convert into other resources

[tall lantern]

because its default weighting is based on resource rarity, and it judges the conversion recipes to be more resource efficient in that regard.
disable SAM, the Converter, or the individual conversion recipes

[misty garnet]

so you can make sam like other stuff

[golden sail]

i have decided to turn off 3 constructors as its more convenient than underclocking the buildings

i would have to produce 6.66 less screws per machine so no

[ornate frost]

i mean, if you are already producing enough resources to make that many, you may as well just sink the overflow tbh

get some benefit out of it

[young grotto]

i been playing and the tool to turn the objects went to 90 drgrees it was working now its at 90 how do i get it back to less

[golden sail]

then i should keep the machine running but redirect its production to the coupon thing?

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message

[ornate frost]

More or less, yeah. I would send all the outputs into a storage and use a smart splitter before that to sink the overflow

your factory stays running, you get coupons, its pretty nice

[abstract girder]

thank you dude for information i need that

I checked a little late, I apologize.

[golden sail]

ill stick to my primitive option for now, i dont have access to smart splitters yet

[misty garnet]

i would get them sooner than later, just try and find a caterium node and you should be able to unlock

unless there’s some restriction based on what tier your in

[golden sail]

ill scan for it later, i havent got into mam research that much

rn im focusing on getting this factory working asap so that i produce stuff while im away

this is my first playthrough anyway, still i believe im doing good

[misty garnet]

yeah that’s fair i’m still on my first i’ve discovered new stuff that changes the way i play so much

[unreal sand]

Any idea what’s coming with 1.2?

[tall lantern]

fluid trucks, new game mode (details unknown), rain returning, bugfixes

oh and selfie camera

[golden sail]

nice

ok screw distribution is now done, now to iron bars

[abstract girder]

when 1.2 came out, what will happen to my save

[tall lantern]

the save itself can always be carried forward

if there are node or recipe changes then factories might break, but those'd be very unlikely for 1.2

[abstract girder]

oh okay

[tall lantern]

note that you can't move saves backwards, so if you opt into 1.2 Experimental, any saves you make in there cannot be loaded back in 1.1

hence the ol' "Back Up Your Saves"

which is of course good practice anyway, but particularly important for experimental

[orchid zinc]

Hey im kind of paralyzed and want a plan that would last for a long while.
So i want to have modular factories that can be expanded when needed and that will construct one thing.
The constructed objects should be transported to a central location that can be used in other production chains.
I dont want to make a mega factory so based on distance, some production chains will be localized where relevant resources are close by.

Any thoughts? Are there other big ones i should consider?

[tall lantern]

that sort of centralisation is not generally recommended

[orchid zinc]

How come?

A guess: the logistics are expensive probably?

[real shale]

Centralisation in any logistics/utility sense is generally a bad idea as it gives one single point of failure. It's best to make multiple factories across the map and spread them out to make logistics simpler

[tall lantern]

for one thing, it's usually better to build near the resources
and relatedly, it makes it harder to tailor your production to local resource availability
also just the logistics of having a whole network of interrelated factories

the game has alternate recipes for most things, but you won't really be able to take advantage of any potential benefits from those if you've already decided how you're going to build everything

having to track how much of each item is going where and so how much you have available seems like pain, but some people do manage that fine

[real shale]

centralised power makes me cry

[tall lantern]

though at least one shared power grid is sensible

[bleak valley]

I connect all my factories with power towers my grid is big enough

[real shale]

i mean more so when generation is all in one place

[bleak valley]

That scares me

[real shale]

its not as big of a deal when you get rocket fuel cus......rocket fuel but

[tall lantern]

power plants are just another factory, just with output in a different form

but with a far easier way of tracking usage vs production than you would with items

so same rules apply - build near the resources, consider alts that'd help with that build

[orchid zinc]

Right, localized factories close to relevant resources. Im guessing the designs should be expandable too yeah?

Like if i need x more amount of same good, it shouldnt be a hassle to expand

[tall lantern]

that's up to you really, some folks like to expand their factories, others would "expand" by just building another one (whether that's in the same spot or somewhere more appropriate)

it's nice to not have to modify a factory once it's done

very easy to make mistakes like missing a belt upgrade if you decide to modify an existing factory to support more items

a common strategy is independency, where a factory deals with its whole production line itself, from raw stuff (or close to it) to final outputs

[zenith pecan]

Or forget to clock a miner and spend half an hour troubleshooting everything but that.

[orchid zinc]

Oh right. And if you want to build Z good that depends on X and Y, those should be built close by as well?

[tall lantern]

part of the same factory, even

though you can always split one logical factory up into smaller, distributed physical ones if you need to

the idea's still that that overall production doesn't need to siphon resources from anything already built

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[abstract girder]

how can i use this satisfactory modeler app??

[tall lantern]

independency's common enough that it's got its own wiki article lol

[plush trellis]

Dude this area has all the basic stuff I need in one small area

[fluid sapphire]

Most (or all?) starting areas can get you basically up to oil power without having to go too far

[ornate frost]

there are some video guides on it, i think. you can really just start from anywhere, your source or what you wanna make and go from there

[earnest dock]

ADA recommends brain damage
Is it safe to keep touching purple void spheres?

[tall lantern]

sure why not

[unreal sand]

I call them asbestos spheres

Because like asbestos they will give you cancer in new and interesting ways

[earnest dock]

You mean like those round candy my uncle used to give me?

[unreal sand]

Yes

[celest belfry]

Am I supposed to be doing maths every 2 mins or am I just shit at the game?

[normal orbit]

idk, i do maths for 2 minutes then spend countless hours building based on that math

[celest belfry]

Maybe it's the maths I'm shit at

I have 240 ingots of copper being produced. I'm trying to split that into constructors making sheets and wire, but I'm having a brain fart and cannot calculate for the life of me

[earnest dock]

Make script go math
use brain to touch stuff
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[normal orbit]

could just wng it, like take 120 of that to copper wire in 8 constructors and the other 120 to make sheets in 6 constructors

[celest belfry]

I have looked at that website several times and have no clue what to do with it 💀

[celest belfry]

Do I need cables for phase 2? Other than for basic crafting?

[tall lantern]

I'd advise using Tools over Calculator
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[celest belfry]

That's what I'm hung up on. I know I need sheets and wire but can't decide how to allocate the sheet to wire production and then how much wire to Syphon off

[tall lantern]

don't try and predict the future, build what you need now

[normal orbit]

you need both wire and cable for building. you will eventually have to make more, but you could take like 180 of the 240 wire and turn that into 90 cables in three constructors.

[proud leaf]

i got my world planned out for now i will have mini facotries and in the future i will make a mega factory in the desert

[earnest dock]

I just poke a few buttons to see what's the next item on the list production chain looks like

Pretty handy

[celest belfry]

Thanks for the help guys

Think I understand it now

[fiery violet]

@abstract girder one on the left is something like a folder (you can input/output items from it and put buildings inside)
And one in the right is something unknown to my person
-# #screenshots message

[abstract girder]

hmm for the statistics right?

So that it's easier to look at the statistics, right? I apologize if I didn't explain it clearly enough.

[fiery violet]

Yeah

Also it's for organization

[abstract girder]

okay thanks for information

It's a nice app, but a bit difficult to use.

[next ivy]

theres others if you just want a calculator

[abstract girder]

what is its name?

[spare prism]

Hi gang

[next ivy]

i know at least 3 i think
scim (web)
satisfactory modeler (steam)
factoriolab (web)

[abstract girder]

okay thanks dude

[fiery violet]

That screenshot is from satisfactory modeler

[next ivy]

k and ?

[abstract girder]

yeah

[reef basin]

~~where are Tools? 🤔 ~~

[next ivy]

dont know that one i guess ?

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ 🙂

[next ivy]

1.0 game version or tool version

dunno if anything wouldve even changed from game 1.0 -> 1.1

[reef basin]

not much, but it supports 1.1

[real canyon]

how much is one fuel power generatore using rocket fuel per minute? im producing 600 per minute rn

[reef basin]

the fuel gen will tell you

[real canyon]

oh thanks

4.17 per min😭😭 than 600 was way overkill

[reef basin]

it's 4.16666666/min btw

[real canyon]

ohh good to know than im doing the math with 4.16 to have some overproduktion👍🏻👍🏻

[reef basin]

well if you want overproduction, do the math with 4.17

[real canyon]

i want to produce more fuel than i burn to keep a steady energy produktion maybe i wrote it wrong

[reef basin]

yeah so do math with 4.17

[real canyon]

true

damn thanks

[gusty dagger]

Anyone know, what happened to the german Satisfactory Discord?

[pine adder]

Any chance it’s going to be cross play anytime soon? My friend just got a console and we were hoping to play together

[tall lantern]

very unlikely

[ornate frost]

I doubt it unfortunately, I think it has to do with the way the game loads on pc vs console

[pine adder]

What if we kidnap the developers

[ornate saffron]

A fuel generator at 240% uses 10 rocket fuel /minute

May make your head math quicker

[normal orbit]

or 144 gens at 100%

[rare lintel]

guys im pretty new and like i went exploring very far away from my hub and i had already seen normal hog and bigger hog whatever they are called and i saw a giant hog that can throw rocks and i had to run for my life. What is that thing?

[normal orbit]

fluffytailed hog, alpha hog and nuclear hog respectively

[tame jacinth]

Nuclear bombs is the only way I felt safe trying to explore spider caves

[compact knot]

i have a blueprint of a cage so i can fight spders safely lol

[simple pebble]

Those ones are Cliff Hogs

They are super not fun to fight if you don't have any good way to get height

[earnest dock]

There is an island to the west of the map with pure oil nodes but no democracy (

[surreal breach]

guys, automated heavy modular frames is a MUST right??

[reef basin]

automated everything is a must

[surreal breach]

i dont have auto screws

[unkempt blade]

Very disappointing. Don't you know cast screws is the best recipe in the game?

[surreal breach]

what i meant by that is that i dont have a factory that makes ONLY screws

but yeah i do know that cast screws is GREAT

[unkempt blade]

rookie mistake, you need a screw factory so you can send them to all your other factories using drones

[abstract girder]

why?

[reef basin]

because the game is about automation?

[unkempt blade]

to fend off carpal tunnel syndrome

[earnest dock]

Screws are there to clog up your beautiful conveyor spaghetti better invest into explosives

[surreal breach]

even if i did have a screw only factory, i only have maximum mk4 belts

[abstract girder]

hm okay

[surreal breach]

so its still pointless

[abstract girder]

true

[spare prism]

Hand craft

[surreal breach]

yo, is there a good alternate recepie for modular frames i do NOT want to use reinforced plates

[earnest dock]

Its a trick, you spend more time automating then just handcrafting to Phase 4

[rare lintel]

they dont get bigger right????

[reef basin]

that depends on what you call "good"

[unkempt blade]

they're all good recipes, especially bolted frames

but also they all use reinforced plates

[spare prism]

Bruh google said it will take 3-6 hours to complete the game only handcrafting 🤣

Essentially, attempting to bypass automation for crafting will make the game grind to a near-halt, potentially taking a 3,000 to 6,000+ hour investment to reach the final tier compared to the standard 150-200 hour "speedy" playthrough.

[reef basin]

yeah don't trust google with info about SF

[spare prism]

But you can trust google its the internet 🙂

[unkempt blade]

yeah that sounds pretty accurate if you use lots of crash sites

[spare prism]

I wonder if you can find enough plastic and rubber to complete game

[surreal breach]

what about an alt recepie for reinforced plates

[earnest dock]

Tickets are your friend

[surreal breach]

oh wait i alr have stiched iron plate

[simple pebble]

About that...

[reef basin]

again, depends on what do you call good

[unkempt blade]

the wiki is really good for questions like these

[surreal breach]

takes little to no space

and can be spammable

[rare lintel]

dont tell there are bigger hogs then cliff hogs

[reef basin]

that's like nothing

things take space in this game

you can clock them to take less space tho

[unkempt blade]

maximum screw usage + easily transportable using factory carts

[pallid umbra]

uh i guess there are the Nuclear Hogs lol

[rare lintel]

the WHAT

[pallid umbra]

go to Titan Forest , you'll see what i mean lol

[rare lintel]

what is a titan forest

[pallid umbra]

oh right

[surreal breach]

also, why does the game make you rejoin your world after about 12 hours of playing??

[rare lintel]

ive only been in some grass lands and a pink forest n stuff

[unkempt blade]

he doesn't even know about ||hogzilla|| or ||mechahogzilla|| yet 😆

[pallid umbra]

well next to pink forest is a place where there is some Nuclear Hogs ( often shortened as 'Nuke Hogs' )

[rare lintel]

😭

i thought the cliff hogs were the worst

[pallid umbra]

which are the strongest and prob the most annoying of hogs

[rare lintel]

is rebar gun good for cliff hog

cuz its the only gun i have rn

[pallid umbra]

i guess ? but i think retaliate hostily is better lol

you got zeno basher ?

[rare lintel]

not yet

[unkempt blade]

just stand near a ledge and matador them off the side. Don't equip a parachute/jetpack/etc if you value your dignity

[rare lintel]

i got the sugarcube instead

i love it

[pallid umbra]

there is one is doggo cave

together with a runner

[rare lintel]

when do i get a jetpack vro

[rare lintel]

where is doggo cave

i have 2 doggos imprisoned rn for items

[pallid umbra]

hum i can show you in DMs

[unkempt blade]

you get it from the rocket hog

[rare lintel]

one gave me a nuclear bomb

not even joking

[pallid umbra]

ik

they are my main source of nukes early game

[rare lintel]

where do i find the ROCKET HOG

[rare lintel]

ok

[pallid umbra]

its a 0.1% chance of it spawning at a hog location

[rare lintel]

me

that sucks

[austere marlin]

Hey guys, in satisfactorytools, is there a way to change the input ? For instance I want to say that I have 240m3 of petrol as an input and I want to 50/50 rubber / plastic with this

[real shale]

oh wow, satisfactory uses 10 GBs of ram for me

[white dawn]

You can add any imports/inputs you want in the "Inputs tab" -- the solver will prioritize using that up before grabbing from raw resources

[austere marlin]

Oh nice amazing ty !

[white dawn]

(To make sure that the solver doesn't ever use the raw resources, you can also set the oil availability down to 0, etc)

[austere marlin]

Well I just changed the raw ressource limit to 240

[thorn cave]

can somone tell me why my packagers won't work I posted a screenshot in questions and help channel

[reef basin]

screenshots isn't for talking and asking questions. Use #1038092680493801533

[thorn cave]

the screenshot was for clarity?

[reef basin]

the screenshot can be added in #1038092680493801533 as well

[thorn cave]

ik.. thats where i posted the screenshot..

i dont mean to be rude but what are you on about

[reef basin]

oh mb I misread

[thorn cave]

oh k

[austere marlin]

Can I safely dismantle a tractor and put the same route inside a new truck ?

[hearty marlin]

yo i need help like rn, idk why the thing wont let me adjust it to symmetrical in the game

[unkempt blade]

I think the routes are (unfortunately) vehicle-type specific unless something changed while I wasn't paying attention

[austere marlin]

This is unfortunate
I have a follow up question then. Is setting up long belt lines across the world a problem (at all ?) performance wise ?

[next ivy]

there is no symmetry or mirror toggle in the game afaik

[weak tinsel]

The || summer sloop looks like the S PPL drew in middle school and you'd find carved into desks||

[silver crescent]

how to get the tag to post in LFG

[unkempt blade]

hasn't been much of an issue in my experience, your mileage may vary depending on how many/how far you build

[austere marlin]

Thanks, I'll probably settle for this then

[reef basin]

you add it to the post

[atomic geyser]

Anyone else notice that the satisfactory map is literally just Spain

[surreal breach]

guys a trampoline spawned in my farm

[unkempt blade]

it's clearly the mitten portion of Michigan

[unborn moss]

"somehow familiar shape"

[unkempt blade]

ancient aliens put those desk carvings there

[weak tinsel]

That's the first thing I noticed

[teal crater]

Hey shouldn’t the MAM be getting decorated as I complete trees?

Or is that not a thing anymore

[normal orbit]

the mam? no

i can't recall that being a feature

[teal crater]

I mean it says it’s a thing on the wiki

Unless I am horrendously mistaken

[normal orbit]

huh, so it does

says this tho: Only MAM buildings placed prior to start of research will be upgraded to show the decorations; any MAMs placed down after the completed research will not show these decorations.

These various decorations on all MAMs will disappear upon restart of the game.

no wonder i've not noticed it :p

[zenith pecan]

Likewise.

[teal crater]

Yeah it’s apparently temporary

Wow I missed that

[zenith pecan]

Plus I've moved the mam several times as well due to my factory evolving.

[teal crater]

Kinda wish the decorations were permanent

Becomes busier the more you do

[normal orbit]

might be on the list of things to fix, but far down in priority

[teal crater]

Yeah it’s just a cosmetic change

[zenith pecan]

I can imagine a research corner having small prototypes/models and a ton of notes piling up.

[teal crater]

Would still be nice tho

Yeah you get it

Becomes an actual work station rather than something you visit every now and then

Or even just a setting to turn on and off the cosmetics

[celest belfry]

Phase 2 is finally finished 😅

[pallid umbra]

do any1 know what is ingame screenshot file path ? i need to access the file without actually launching the game

[bleak valley]

Is it in the faq? I thought I saw it in there once

[celest belfry]

Should it have taken 50 hours 💀💀

[pallid umbra]

yep it is thanks

well

it doesnt work lol

[hearty flame]

...

took me 70...

[silk coral]

Man that’s a shame. the neo looks promising and I could get it for $400 with a discount 😢

[silk coral]

It’s not a race man it’s about the factory growing endlessly 🔋💪

[celest belfry]

I just feel like I'm fucking up sooo many basic things lmao

The factory is a MESS

[atomic geyser]

It's all part of the process

[silk coral]

If you don’t fuck up you’ll never have anything to compare your successes to

You should see what the belts leading to my steel factory look like lmao

[atomic geyser]

exactly. I've redesigned my modular frame factory like 14 times just to get .5 more per minute for the hmf factory im working on

[tall lantern]

protip: usually better to build new than to delete and replace existing

take the lessons you've learned for the next factory

but you could've instead had 14 modular frame factories in that time 😛

[celest belfry]

I gotta start getting the hang of that tbh

Might as well explore now phase 2 is done & set up new factories in new biomes

[atomic geyser]

my insert whatever I have that makes me like this won't allow me to have multiple factories in different places producing the same thing. I need 1 huge factory with trains leading to others that need that item

[tall lantern]

oof, making it hard on yourself eh

[atomic geyser]

Everything needs to be neat and clean

I also hate any clipping

like coveyers through floors, ect.

[tall lantern]

doesn't preclude having factories for the same resource around, particularly if different locations have resources that'd better suit a particular alt

(or having them within the factory that actually wants that item - good ol' Independency)

[sweet vessel]

if im stuck in a hole

with no concrete

what do i do </3

loaded a dif save im dumb

[wise junco]

unlock the ladder at the awesome shop - you won't regret it!

[celest belfry]

how do you keep the bus clean tho? mine is hot spagetti

[swift turret]

trick answer you dont

you put walls around it and forget it exists

[celest belfry]

LMAO

[wise junco]

this is the way

[zenith pecan]

I generally avoid spaghetti.

[shy dagger]

Gang, how many hours roughly untill || i get to blow up shit with nukes || approximately. I'm 120 hours in, about to start phase 3

[swift turret]

120? You just started a new save?

[shy dagger]

First play through

I also lowkey just run around alot

[swift turret]

give it another 1000 hours and maybe you'll complete the tutorial

[celest belfry]

I stacked mine four high with nothing in between; a big ole wide 10 lane bastard. My plan was any time I needed to pull something off the bus, I'd drop the level of that line by two (since four lanes above and below are clear) and hook it up to a splitter. I did not end up doing that. It's just spaghetti.

[shy dagger]

Wow this community is so great a giving straight forward answers

Might aswell just go to reddit

[wise junco]

tbh, that's a REALLY hard question to answer

[celest belfry]

Unironically tho lmao

[swift turret]

that was a real answer

[shy dagger]

I knoww 😭😭

[shy dagger]

This is valid, thank you

Is it propper end game, final phase?

[swift turret]

if you speed run it takes about 10 hours to complete the game, if you only do the objectives can take easily 100 hours, if you're playing to play, easy 1000+ hours

[wise junco]

like, do you have gas filters/iodine filters automated yet?

do you have any uranium processing going yet?

🤷‍♂️

it could be in the next 10 hours or 300 based on your playstyle

[real shale]

aaaaa

[celest belfry]

I'm playing on ps5 and terrified it's eventually gonna be unplayable on a 1000 hour save

[real shale]

So they can flame you rather than give you an answer?

[shy dagger]

I've more or less got everything up to computer level being mass produced

[swift turret]

only computer?

[shy dagger]

?

Does this guy say anything helpful

[tiny sigil]

its a budget laptop, you can't expect it to game lol

[swift turret]

worrying about blowing stuff up and you've only made computers is funny

[shy dagger]

Forbid someone is curious about a game they're playing

[silk coral]

Yeah ur right guess ill have to stick with my pc

[swift turret]

yeah its forbidden

[celest belfry]

imagine being baited by the master baiter

[real shale]

Honestly an estimate for nukes is kinda hard to give, unless you want me to give you the straight forward answer in my experience and tell you its 580 hours left until you get them because thats how long it took for me

[shy dagger]

Everything at computer level is being produced, so tier 3 resources ?

[wise junco]

here's what I can tell ya... I split my time early on in this save between exploration for HDD/slugs/etc and factory building.

I'm 304h in, with all the rebars automated and basic nobelisks automated. I don't even have the nuke ones unlocked yet BUT I also haven't worried about anything nuclear yet

[shy dagger]

Perfect. This is what I was looking for, thank you pioneer 🫡

[shy dagger]

Ight sound

[wise junco]

I also tend to be a SLOWER builder... I take my time and really tinker

[real shale]

Truthfully phase 4 is a HUGE step in complexity and then phase 5 again

[celest belfry]

What the fuck is this game bro 😭😭

[wise junco]

addicting AF

[real shale]

i use medicinal bananas to make my uranium cells

[wise junco]

you freakin' better

[real shale]

its a lot of bananananaanannaas, heres a banana for scale 🍌

[wise junco]

phase 4 is where everything i didn't automate in phases 1-3 comes to haunt me because i rush tiers EVERY time

[real shale]

Satisfactory is a factory simulation game by Coffee Stain Studios for Windows, Xbox, and Playstation. The player (referred to as "pioneer") is dropped onto an alien planet with a handful of tools and must use the planet's natural resources to construct increasingly complex factories. The initial goal is to construct a space elevator, through which the Pioneer begins supplying the megacorp the player works for (FICSIT Inc.) with increasingly numerous and complex components for their unknown, but stated to be prudent, purposes. These exports unlock access to new technology that in turn unlocks a new tier of manufacturing and refinement machines to support the production of the next phase of parts to be delivered to FICSIT.

[wise junco]

i love you

[celest belfry]

TAKE A BREAK: YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 8 HOURS
yeah but I have just one more thing to upgrade imma do that rq
TAKE A BREAK: YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 12 HOURS

[wise junco]

if this isn't EVERY TIME

"shhh ADA i'm almost done with this thing like 5 minutes"

[real shale]

i love you too strange fruit with medicinal properties

[celest belfry]

It's sickening!!

[wispy tundra]

hey, hello 🙂 one quick question, do I use the same pipes that I use for water, to transport crude oil from the extractors? (just got in phase 3)

[wise junco]

you sure do

[wispy tundra]

oh ok thanks

maaan after spending 400 hours in phase 2 this game is really making me think now lol

[celest belfry]

Uh actually I completed phase 2 and haven't touched tractors at all yet

Should I get those before exploring?

[wise junco]

imo, i'm not a fan of the tractors/trucks, but everyone has a different opinion

[forest tangle]

Is there a way to feed multiple (different) items, into a Dimentional Depo, without the system breaking when an item is full?

[tall lantern]

no

[wise junco]

unfortunately naw

[tall lantern]

use more depots

[wispy tundra]

My entire playthrough is based on tractors, lol

[wise junco]

more power to you! i've used them a few times in the past and they're cool, but.. just not for me

[celest belfry]

400 HOURS????

[wise junco]

oh fr, this game will eat you alive

[wispy tundra]

YUP
I was building this
https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1ru66ua/450_hours_in_this_is_platform_alpha/

[forest tangle]

Some people just want to watch the conveyers go Brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[tall lantern]

400 hours is definitely nearer the far end of the bell curve for phase 2 lol

[wise junco]

@wispy tundra I seriously love it. it has a great vibe to it

[celest belfry]

Where tf do you get compacted coal from?

[tall lantern]

sulfur tree

[celest belfry]

Is this something I've ignored?

[wise junco]

you throw coal and sulfur into an assembler after unlocking it in the MAM

[tall lantern]

the MAM has a lot of useful stuff

[wispy tundra]

It's made with Sulfur + coal

and unlocked at MAM

yea
it's like coal but better

[wise junco]

Alex, I really like the main support pillars for the main platform

[celest belfry]

I have ignored most tech trees bc there's no resources it needs near me 🥲

[wispy tundra]

gives better mileage

[wispy tundra]

Thanks! someone else called them "too fancy" haha

[celest belfry]

Ok this is genuinely impressive

[wispy tundra]

but they're meant to support an entire macrostructore so

[wise junco]

ahhh they can screw off. i love the detail

[celest belfry]

I understand it now

[wise junco]

bravo. i really like it

[wispy tundra]

and this is my first playthrough, I built it before leaving Phase 2

[celest belfry]

God damn you should see the mess I made to get me through phase 2 💀

[wise junco]

hey, we all have a diff approach for sure

[celest belfry]

Seeing that is like realising I've been playing with Legos wrong my whole life or something phahaha

not realising the bricks can connect to each other or some shit

[wise junco]

HAHA I feel that way after I see some builds

[wispy tundra]

yeah 🙂 thanks!

Now I'm planning how I'm gonna advance

[wise junco]

are you going to expand PA or build a PB?

[celest belfry]

It's the maths that's killing me

[wise junco]

@celest belfry have you used satisfactory tools?

apparently I can't type today

[celest belfry]

I know there are calculators, I just don't understand them. I spent an hour thugging out my entire production line process from start to finish using a pen and paper 🤣😭

[wise junco]

i used to do that at work - when it was slow I'd pen and paper out my whole factory

[warm finch]

best to not have new players use satisfactory tools/scim until they have a foundational understanding of the game.

[celest belfry]

I've looked but I don't get what it wants me to input, like if it's the target rate for advanced components or whatnot (I'm very baked rn I'm struggling to explain)

Like how am I supposed to know how many rods I need type shit

[wispy tundra]

I'm scouting locations for platform Beta. I'm almost settling to build it here: https://i.imgur.com/TEJYbfZ.png
It's close to my compacted coal factory, so I can inherit some of the infrastructure, it has a bunch of crude oil deposits and also a lake. What u guys think?

[tall lantern]

you decide what you want to produce and how much. Don't try and predict the future, just go with what you need right now

[wispy tundra]

I'll prob use it as a plastic, rubber and Tier 5/6 macrostructure

I already have a conveyor bus taking compacted coal from close to there to Platform Alpha, so I can just convert this to a road and connect both platforms

[wise junco]

that's a good spot; the only thing i would say to deter you is ||this is a critically easy spot to build late-game fuels. it can be done elsewhere but this spot has everything you need all in one spot||

[wispy tundra]

Well, there's nothing holding me from ||expanding platform beta later when that time arrives||

[wise junco]

very true! just making you resource-aware

[wispy tundra]

I don't need to use ALL the nodes that are there now. There's actually WAY more nodes than I need right now

[celest belfry]

clocks off at work to clock on at home

[wise junco]

not gonna lie, i like the idea of a series of road-connected megaplatforms

[wispy tundra]

LITERALLY my life the past month

[warm finch]

the factory must grow

[wispy tundra]

Yeah, suppose I'll do that. I'll build Platform Beta there, and then convert the conveyor bus into a road

maybe I can even run a train line between platforms later

when I have trains

[wise junco]

that would look dope

[wispy tundra]

Yeah. The way it's going, I'll prob have one platform per Phase

[celest belfry]

I'll be out shopping, calculating my production lines & priorities. Genuinely haven't been this obsessed about something since learning to play chess LMAO

[wispy tundra]

specially cuz my plan is to make all final assembly for space elevator parts in Platform Alpha (Since the elevator is located beside the South end of the platform), so they will need to communicate

[celest belfry]

Going to sleep at night realising that one thing you did earlier secretly made a mess of everything and you gotta fix it when you wake up

[wispy tundra]

Watching guides when you can't sleep

[real shale]

💊 🍌

[wise junco]

lolol that does happen

[celest belfry]

This is blocked in the UK btw

[real shale]

Oh yeah, can't use Imgur at all in the UK, which is crazy

[wise junco]

wut

[celest belfry]

Gotta send the government blood samples to access the web these days

[real shale]

All the mod overview pages use them so all that displays is a page saying that it's restricted

[celest belfry]

REAL. Just watching people who are better than me play the game has made me improve sooo much

[real shale]

Lofi factory noises to sleep to

[wise junco]

i took all of my game advice from lets game it out

[wispy tundra]

that is weird. OK, lemme upload to my dropbox

[real shale]

Yeah they were one of the platforms that nope'd out after OSA rather than incorporating filtering

[real shale]

Oh no you poor thing are you okay

[wise junco]

LMAO

no, never ok truthfully

[real shale]

Sameeee

[wispy tundra]

wtf they auto-delete dropbox links?

just sent u a priv msg lol

[celest belfry]

tbf I can 100% imagine a script kiddy on discord sending malware through dropbox lmao (not you, just generally)

[wispy tundra]

now I need to start htinking how I'll build refinery blueprints... this is a WHOLE NEW BUILDING lol

[proven snow]

That platform is gonna need a LOT of expansion

[wispy tundra]

oh yeah I'm aware

god in heaven things got MUCH MORE COMPLEX than constructors and assemblers LOLZ

[wise junco]

oh, it gets wild

[real shale]

1.2 experimental........soon

[wispy tundra]

OK, actually, forget the compacted coal
I will produce FUEL as a byproduct in platform beta, and I can route this for both platforms' refueling stations

[proven snow]

I've been very excited for 1.2, but gonna be going on a 1 week business trip tmrw so I suppose I'll have to wait a bit

Unless maybe I play a bit on my laptop

[wispy tundra]

OK so, is it my impression, or it's not worthy to automate polymer resin to make residual rubber/plastic?

[swift turret]

its good for fabric which can be used for gas filters

[wispy tundra]

ah, that

[wise junco]

polymer resin will be useful in some ways, but i personally usually take the byproducts from other production lines, not as a dedicated line itself

yes, primarily fabric imo

[swift turret]

true its better as a byproduct

[wispy tundra]

yeah, I was looking at things there, it's much better to use the crude oil to make actual rubber and actual plastic

[wise junco]

correct

the resin you'll get as byproduct will be MORE than enough to automate more fabric than you'll ever need

[wispy tundra]

ah good. Awesome to know

[wise junco]

i think 75 fabric/min powers my entire automated gas filter and iodine filter setup, to give you an idea

and i'm still making more than i can actually use

checked my math. yes. iirc, you can only use 5 iodine filters at max rate per minute... not sure on gas. so you could probably do on half that

[wispy tundra]

cool
yeah, anyhow, I suppose I'll start with those 2 factories #screenshots message

seems like a good starting point

[wise junco]

hell yeah it does

[wispy tundra]

OK, so, first of all I need to build some blueprints for refineries. New building, new blueprints lol

[deft drum]

man i can't wait for the 1.2 patch notes

[sly herald]

Im new and havent got the game yet is it good? does it take a lot of time. i can afk. is it worth it? ( i will be getting it on sale)

[wise junco]

it's the best game i've ever played, tbh, but can be incredibly time intensive depending on how you play

[wispy tundra]

the last time a game made me lose my entire life as it went by was when I got the original The Sims at launch

[white dawn]

It's not unusual for find to spend hundreds of hours in the game. It's not meant to be an AFK game, though. If you're tempted to AFK, build more factory instead. :)

[sly herald]

wdym build more factory

[wispy tundra]

unless you use your money to cheat and rent a dedicated server to run your factories 24/7 lol

[white dawn]

As for if it's good, remember that you've asked that in a Discord populated mostly by people who like the game so much they want to keep talking about it even when not playing

So the responses are unlikely to be without bias. :)

[sly herald]

similar to rust time wise? if you have played it

[real shale]

The satisfactory drug....

[sly herald]

true lol

[wispy tundra]

or WHILE they play

[wise junco]

i've played SOME rust - i'd say this takes more time imo but the multiplayer aspect of rust can make time go faster

[white dawn]

If x/min construction of a resource is slow enough that you feel like AFKing, build a factory that does x*2/min instead. :)

[real shale]

And if that isn't enough ...double it

[white dawn]

As others have said: AFKing is just microtransactions to your utility company

[sly herald]

i think ima get teh game it looks like fun

[real shale]

You see I have a loophole to this, I work for said utility company so I'm essentially paying myself in a weird twisted way

[sly herald]

my friend has factorio do you know if it is similar because he likes that so would he like satisfactory

[tall lantern]

they're both factory-building games with belts, that's about where the similarities end

[sly herald]

and can u do multyplayer?

[tall lantern]

yes

[sly herald]

bet im getting it

[wise junco]

i highly, highly doubt you'll regret it

[spare prism]

yooo if i set up 2 depots on same item from different chest do i upload more per min?

[tall lantern]

yes

each has its own upload

heck they can be from the same chest if your belts can extract fast enough from it

[real shale]

We need more......more the outputs they must grow ....everytime I close my eyes....I see it....I see the smelters, the constructors, the WHOLE LOT I can't escape it

[sly herald]

has anyone here ever played industrialist on roblox

[abstract girder]

#off-topic-general

[tall lantern]

no, don't think roblox has most of our age range as its target audience lol

[sly herald]

that is what i expected lol and mb frig

[abstract girder]

i am sorry

[sly herald]

its alg i was jsut curious if anyone did and if it was similar

[spare prism]

thanks

[wispy tundra]

first order of business, let me build 100 motors to cover building costs for my first factories and make me comfortable for a while because I haven't automated motors lol. Maybe I should.

[wise junco]

oh yeah, you'll need motors for a loooong time

[real shale]

oh yeah i still have to automate turbo motors

[zenith pecan]

I had some serious manufacture creep when I thought, oh 600 resin byproduct from the coke plant, I'll make filters with that! , it worked but damn, the factory itself is huge.

[wispy tundra]

Yeah, I probably should automate motors, something tells me I'll cry for not having them on my dimensional depot as I build the new factories

Guess Platform Alpha is gaining another factory xD

[hearty marlin]

BRO i just finished fase 1 thinking 50 of those reeinforced plates were a lot now they are asking for a 1000

[warm finch]

my sweet summer child....

[hearty marlin]

dont even bro.....

at least now i have coal energy which is better than what i had bfr

[proven snow]

Greedy ass ficsit corporation

[fickle locust]

Once you get automated power the game opens up

You stop being glued to your biomass

[wise junco]

yes. biomass will keep you pretty stationary

[wise junco]

this is completely accurate

you'll need a large influx when you first need them, then it'll calm down. i make do with something like 2.2 motors per minute to my DD.... i only feel the burn once in a while

[real shale]

i will cry regardless

[wise junco]

also same

[real shale]

i cry when i open up the game because i know what im in for

[wise junco]

i will cry less once i finish my fused modular frames in a bit. it's been a lengthy project because i have been lazy

[real shale]

Should have seen me with supercomputers, that took me months

[wise junco]

yeah, I still need to do those too

[real shale]

😢

[wise junco]

the GOOD news is my transcontinental train line is over half the continent now, so life is a bit easier

[wispy tundra]

I can do 1.1 with my current capabilities, but after I unlock mk4 I can double that, or just sloop it

or do both and have 4.4

[wise junco]

once you get past your initial hump, 1.1 may get you further than ya think

[real shale]

I need rotors, I keep putting off automating rotors for some reason

[wispy tundra]

I have like thousands of Rotors stashed at Platform Alpha because no production line is currently using it and it was the first thing I automated. I can handcraft a few hundred motors to get me through that tough spot

[wise junco]

honestly not a bad idea

[wispy tundra]

but I'll automate motors regardless. I was thinking 1.1 may be too little but now I'm confident it'll be enough for now. Specially since I'll build a stash while I'm using the handcrafted ones

[wise junco]

exactly

as you move on, you don't always need a huge amount automated. just enough to get you by

[zenith pecan]

You can go large for motors 😄 #design-and-architecture message

[wispy tundra]

yeah 🙂

[wise junco]

absolutely beautiful

[misty garnet]

how much turbo fuel per minute does a fuel generator use

[deft drum]

okay, all of phase 4

automated

[hearty marlin]

u gon get excomunicado kid

[cobalt jetty]

do rail junctions work with block signals on all ins and outs instead of path signals on ins? All the braking is killing my throughput

[wise junco]

yes, but then nothing will proceed until the entire junction is clear

[cobalt jetty]

ok word, that's fine for now as i only have like 5 different trains, nothing gets backed up

[white dawn]

Once you have turbofuel unlocked, head to a fuel gen and look at its control panel. There'll be a little orange gas-can icon near the fuel input buffer. Click that and it'll give you the consumption rates for all fuel types it supports

(Though only at 100% clocking; doesn't adjust to the actual machine clock, I don't think)

[cobalt jetty]

IIRC it does but only once it's running

[white dawn]

Though I suppose by the same token, I think that that gas-can display may round the values a bit more than some people like, so the wiki may be of more precise use

!wikisearch fuel-powered generator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel-powered+generator

[misty garnet]

ahhh thank you

[cobalt jetty]

just unlocked hover, god i'm so happy to not be burning through such copious amounts of packaged fuel lmao

[deft drum]

the ratios per full pipe of 600 cubic meters of fuel are

30 for Fuel
80 for turbo fuel
and 144

[spare prism]

Test

[deft drum]

F-

[cobalt jetty]

it worked?

[spare prism]

My app is glitching I tried to put up a post it said failed and wouldn't load

[cobalt jetty]

skill issue xd

[deft drum]

krill issue

[cobalt jetty]

efficiency issue

[spare prism]

its not working

[cobalt jetty]

oh my god i just realized satisfactory is helldivers but for productivity rather than patriotism

where do you guys make your black powder factory for ammo and nobelisks?

[wise junco]

i made mine on the southeastern part of the northwest chunk. it turned into chaos

[cobalt jetty]

i'm kinda thinking northwest corner

[spare prism]

bruh, i was trying to post in LFG and it said error now i need to wait an hour before i can post again

[cobalt jetty]

oof

is anyone currently using SCIM? it's not loading and i just wanna make sure it's a me issue

[mortal ginkgo]

website loads for me

[real shale]

oh no its the impure limestone node

[jagged nymph]

works fine for me

[mortal ginkgo]

hello mortal

[real shale]

I am pioneer not mortal

[wise junco]

my new band name

[real shale]

ur new band name should just be medicinal banana, that name in itself is legendary

[primal obsidian]

satisfafctory selife

[cobalt jetty]

cheers 'preciate it guys, someone in the house must have been downloading hentai or sumthin xD

[proven snow]

But, you live alone...

[mortal ginkgo]

holy hardcore download if its stopping SCIM

[real shale]

nah it was just someone downloading ark with all dlcs

[cobalt jetty]

stop that gives me ptsd

[cobalt jetty]

i said what i said

[real shale]

mmmm half a TB on one game

[jagged nymph]

dcs is like 400gb

(no dlcs)

[fluid sapphire]

Whats dcs

[real shale]

<@&387163995947270144> slurs in another language

[fierce thicket]

I think its a game

dcs world

DCS is a true "sandbox" simulation that is also designed to cover multiple time periods of interest such as WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Gulf War and others.

[undone wolf]

Am i the only one who thinks the game could drastically use some decorative interior stuff

Like chairs, tables, plants, carpets... in the awesome shop

[fluid sapphire]

Chairs and tables do nothing for productivity

[fierce thicket]

decoration

[undone wolf]

I really enjoy base building and I'm sure lots of people do too

[fluid sapphire]

No lollygagging

[undone wolf]

It's a big part of the game

[ornate frost]

Where else am I gonna store my slugs?

[fluid sapphire]

Shelving

[undone wolf]

I find myself leaving empty rooms in factories and I go "yeah this could be an office or dining room"

But then reality hits me

[fluid sapphire]

Fairly certain we will get some new decorative pieces in 1.2, probably not tables/chairs though

[dense violet]

you can get pretty creative to make those objects with vanilla items. Some cool yt vids displaying that

[undone wolf]

You can get pretty close

But it will never look completely right

[dense violet]

I've seen GREAT custom furniture made in this game 🙂

plus in this way everyone's furniture lookds dif, not just the same chair everyone has , as an example

[wise junco]

finally finished my FMF factory... that felt like forever dragging my feet

[hearty marlin]

guys i just unlocked coal farms, should i build a complete separate base for that?

[feral jay]

Probably, yes. Near water somewhere.

[low ingot]

It's best near water, less hassle with pipes

[dense violet]

most coal is also near water

so you kinda have to go lookign for the waterless nodes

[hearty marlin]

alr ill find a good spot and show it to yall

[dense violet]

I suggest find 3-4 coal nodes next to water. Every start zone has at least 1 place like that

and then burn it all for power

[hearty marlin]

by 4 nodes u mean 4 of those spots where miners go?

one other question, can i just delete the space elevator while im not using it?

[feral jay]

Nothing is ever really lost in this game

[proven snow]

I dunno I've seen some pretty deforested areas

[abstract girder]

Sometimes my game lags, dropping to 10 fps for 15-20 seconds before recovering. This happens especially often when exploring new areas. My specs are:nvidia 1650 GTX, AMD Ryzen 5 5500, 16GB RAM, settings at the lowest.

[oak stirrup]

Quick question, can i put two locomotive engines on both ends of the train to make it go front and back on the same railway track without having to loop it around?

[proven snow]

yup

[hearty marlin]

u capping fps or no?

[proven snow]

Pretty good for a simple path with two train stops, but personally I prefer the loop. If you want to do anything more complex the back and forth method gets real annoying too

[abstract girder]

no i dont do it

[hearty marlin]

i think u should, and maybe vsync 2, even tho it causes some input lag

oh wait, i think i found the coal spot

ill post on screenshots channel

[mortal ginkgo]

you definitely should

[abstract girder]

hm I'll do it when I log into the game tomorrow.

[swift turret]

On phase 3 for the billionth time and the worst part of being on there is unlocking trains and figuring out how to start it

[oak stirrup]

I was thinking of 1 track with 2 stops which splits into another track with 1 more stop, so it's like 2 routes:
Main base <> factory 1
Main base <> factory 2

[abstract girder]

Should I set it to 60Hz or 144Hz? My screen is 144Hz.

[mortal ginkgo]

144Hz I suppose.

[abstract girder]

thanks

[proven snow]

Should work yea

I'd definitely prefer a loop tho

[scenic thistle]

does this game have actual customisables like the stuff in the hub?

[swift turret]

you can customize your character

[scenic thistle]

i mean like chairs

[fierce thicket]

not yet

[scenic thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[mortal ginkgo]

you are saying not yet as if confirmed to come soon...

[fierce thicket]

no, but it can existe in the future

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean I get it, to hype someone, to give hope. But false info is still false info 😛

I mean, they can even add my mom in the future. And she would fit in perfectly. I wouldn't say "not yet" to that.

[fierce thicket]

i didnt say it would be in the game, but either it wont be

[craggy vector]

YOO COAL POWER UNLOCKED SUB 5 HOURS

[swift turret]

aside from milestone upgrades I forgot the hub even exists

[mortal ginkgo]

I wish we had more reasons to visit it. Considering how easy milestones are...

[weak bloom]

is there any downside to having water extractors operating at more output than the pipe will need? or can it cause issues if they turn on and off like that

[dense violet]

usually not

[swift turret]

no it just fills the pipe

honestly only downside is if you dont like power flucuation because the extractor will idle

[mortal ginkgo]

not exactly at early game. though water extractors got a slight delay before they restart so they can cause some imbalance.

[weak bloom]

okay. because I noticed idling in my recycled plastic factory and got paranoid and checked, and the water pipe is almost empty. I have 2 water extractors set to 200 each feeding the pipes into 4 diluted fuel blenders (so exactly 400).
I THINK it was because I just forgot to let the pipe fill in the first place. I went to check my recycled rubber plant next door and it seems to be operating fine, and it's set up exactly the same

[dense violet]

water extractors have large output buffers so really should never have an issue

[swift turret]

better for stuff to back up due to over production than idle due to no resources

[weak bloom]

but I did see that the fluid levels in the pipes (both water and fuel) would be fluctuating in the rubber factory. like, I'd see the fuel level in a pipe segment drop to half and then fill up again, etc.
I think that's fine.....?? like, they shouldn't be staying full all the time during normal operation right? I just need to make sure they are full before startup?

I guess a better sanity check on the factory would be making sure all the refineries are at 100% operation uptime....?

[dense violet]

if made right

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned how the 'efficiency' meters are not to be trusted

but you do you
easier to stare at their lights for 30 seconds

and faster

[weak bloom]

yeah so I'm wondering what the best sanity check for this factory is, but I guess that works. make sure nothing idles is better than checking pipe levels, because I'd expect them to be fluctuating during operation, right?

[dense violet]

once you flood a system it should stay flooded

but if you have a stutter in the next step it'll still be flooded, since it won't be using everything

so imo genearlly just stare at rows of lights

[hearty marlin]

wait whats the difference between pure and normal ore of stuff

[oak stirrup]

What's the recipe of rocket fuel? Sulfur + Coal > compacted coal + fuel > turbo fuel

[ornate frost]

my first rail line is complete. the track layout is hideous but it works...

[oak stirrup]

After that?

[swift turret]

use the alt and you skip turbo

[oak stirrup]

What alt?

[swift turret]

either trubo or nitric acid I forget

[proven snow]

Add Nitric acid (Nitrogen gas and water)

or the alternative recipe is nitrogen gas, fuel, sulfur, coal

[swift turret]

Nitro Rocket Fuel Alternate

[proven snow]

Probably easier to look at the wiki to get this info than scattered info on discord

Just search "rocket fuel satisfactory"

[oak stirrup]

Got it thanks

[oak stirrup]

Didn't know about this thanks

[swift turret]

yeah ok it uses fuel instead of turbo

[oak stirrup]

Just gotta hope now i get that recipe in hard drives 😭

[swift turret]

im wrong it produces more rocket fuel

[undone ether]

guys

so i literally cannot make enough aluminum to finish phase 4

[swift turret]

honestly tho I can see the base recipe being better if you have a turbo fuel plant already

[undone ether]

like i would have to travel ~6000ish meters

im in phase 3 rn

[oak stirrup]

Hypertube cannon

[swift turret]

Theres pure iron nodes nearby and you can add more water and get rocket fuel

[swift turret]

theres plenty of bauxite in the world

train them in

[undone ether]

the issue isnt getting over there, the issue is the amount of time it would take for the train lines

[swift turret]

blueprints do not take that much time

its their whole purpose

[undone ether]

my current bauxite node is transported by drone but i cant tell if that is inneficient and also its in the red forest and my factory is in the desert dunes

[proven snow]

Sounds like a big fat lie

There's plenty of resources on the map. And even if you just make a small setup you'll eventually get there

[undone ether]

yeah but the trains man

[swift turret]

add more drones

if 1 is not doing the job, add 10

[undone ether]

wouldnt trains be better thought

[oak stirrup]

6kms for trains isn't even that much

[swift turret]

yes but if you already have 1 drone you can add more

[undone ether]

like i cant tell if i just suck

[undone ether]

how can i do it super quickly

[oak stirrup]

If i show you my save you'll legit laugh bruv 😹 i have train lines running underwater

[undone ether]

ew

[oak stirrup]

I did that thinking that "the view would be nice"

[proven snow]

Nah, there's lots of ways to go about things and you'll get it. Sounds like you just have a little issue with patience.

No shame in taking a little break if building a train track gets too much

[undone ether]

what if i just like

used scim

or is that too sinful to cofee stain

[proven snow]

To spawn it in? Could work

Might rob yourself of some fun though. I find people usually regret spawning stuff in to make stuff faster

[undone ether]

i honestly dont know man

i had to scim in the nuclear pasta because well it fucking sucked

i have the field gens and nuke pasta done

[swift turret]

Starting a train line when you get to phase 3 is the worst

I think I finally have an idea tho

[undone ether]

i have a 6.3km long trainline for caterium

i have lots and lots of caterium

like imkibitz levels of caterium

[swift turret]

he still doesnt have enough caterium

[undone ether]

i just checked the SCIM production planner for assembly director systems and i am NOT doing allat

[swift turret]

watch totalexcpises video on factory management

[undone ether]

yeah but like i want phase 3 TONIGHT

its been so long

[swift turret]

phase 3>

the assembley director is phase 4

[undone ether]

i mean i want phase 4 tonight

stfu

[swift turret]

do you even have nuclear pasta done

[undone ether]

yes

i scimmed it

[swift turret]

how do you have that done but not assembly director

pasta is way worse than that

[undone ether]

i scimmed pasta in

after the heavy frames i just gave up

[stone python]

unfortunate

[undone ether]

ts game makes me want to kirkify myself

[stone python]

might not be for you then

[undone ether]

im too deep in

its already consumed me and the factory must grow larger

it genuinely might be turning my skull into a fine powder

[swift turret]

HMF are easy

they require some iron and concrete

[wispy tundra]

god in freaking heaven I hate when I've built almost the ENTIRE factory only to find out that I built it one foundation to the south more than I should have
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

[undone ether]

maybe im just

bad

[swift turret]

are you using alts?

[wispy tundra]

SCIM to the rescue I suppose

no way I'll tear the entire thing down and start over

[dense violet]

what is the issue that 1 foundation is causing?>

[undone ether]

which ones should i use just gimme a list

[swift turret]

...

theres no list

alts are just for whatever is convenient like cast screws, iron pipe. All good but not good in all situations

[undone ether]

which alts should i be using for HMF, FMF and PCC

[wispy tundra]

which is needed for things to fit tigether

[dense violet]

the issue is there's no meta.
it depends on all the other recipes you're using, locations, your personal style, ect

[past dune]

theres no right or wrong answer.. you should use what's available, depending on the rest of your save.

[dense violet]

if there was a meta, honestly the game would suck

[undone ether]

i honestly think im just stressing myself out too much with my gigafactory

[swift turret]

use heavy encased frames if you dont want screws, if you like screws use steel screws, if you dont like either, give up and cry

[undone ether]

i have cast screws

[wispy tundra]

OK so
My build uses megaplatforms like this one
#design-and-architecture message

basically I built the factory directly beside the street instead of leaving 1 foundation space for the sidewalk
which is needed for things to fit together
including the output/input stations where the tractors pick up / unload stuff

[dense violet]

you could just widden the platform by one and build what you need

[wispy tundra]

can't, because the crossings were designed taking the exact size of each factory into consideration
if I do that the crossings don't line up anymore
Also, if I leave the factory there the ramp for the truck input station will invade the street

I'll just SCIM the factory one foundation to the north

[undone ether]

will i ruin my game if i just spawn in some stuff

man im literally boutta cry

[ornate saffron]

looks good

[wispy tundra]

Thanks!

[wispy tundra]

I have more pics here https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1ru66ua/450_hours_in_this_is_platform_alpha/
🙂

[ornate saffron]

all my phase 3 decorating is done.... Just waiting for phase parts to craft.

exploring while i do this of course

[hollow turret]

Should I hand craft phase 4 or nah

Or as much of it as I can

[ornate saffron]

if you do you are going to really make phase 5 harder

[hollow turret]

Welp there goes that idea

[ornate saffron]

some ppl prefer it that way. As they feel the game doesnt really start until everything is unlocked

[dense violet]

the tiers are basically a tutorial, what's the issue?

[undone ether]

you dont understand man

[hollow turret]

Ahhh okay

[hollow turret]

?

[undone ether]

im tweaking tf out over this game

[hollow turret]

Go take a chill pill

[dense violet]

which is why I explicitely asked what your issue is

[hollow turret]

Like fr

[undone ether]

im trying to get to phase 4

and i need to make assembly director systems and thermal rockets

[dense violet]

sure, pick an item in a milestone, automate it in a factory

[dense violet]

if you've automated all the parts you could just toss the basic parts into containers and make the space parts that way

[undone ether]

you cant craft them in the bench

[hollow turret]

Dawg please read

[dense violet]

"if you've automated all the parts you could just toss the basic parts into containers"

and the containers feed machines

[fickle locust]

You're allowed to make the worst factory in the world
Make the machine that assembles the final thing (thermal rockets)
Make a machine that makes each component that feeds in to that
Go on down the line until you're done

[undone ether]

so just like making a normal fucking factory

[fickle locust]

If you're freaking out about complexity just do it badly. It'll still work

[hollow turret]

Yes?

[undone ether]

but i literally needs so much stuff to make it work

[hollow turret]

Phase 3 ain't bad

[wispy tundra]

roflmao one of my tractors just did a wheelie out of the blue

[dense violet]

no

look at the basic parts the space parts need

you should have those automated already

take a bunch of them, put them in containers
feed the containers straight to he machine to make space parts

[undone ether]

i dont have them automated already

i dont have enough aluminum

[dense violet]

then go automate them.
any amoutn of aluminium will eventually work.
the point of the milestones is to automate all the parts they need -

[hollow turret]

Whg would you need aluminum?

[dense violet]

if you just spawn in parts you're just making the problem worse as they still aren't automated

[undone ether]

do you have any idea how much aluminum phase 4 needs

[dense violet]

actually yeah, you don't get aluminium until phase 4

[undone ether]

no

[dense violet]

you haven't even unlocked it yet

[undone ether]

you get aluminum is phase 3

in in tiers 7 abd 8

im trying to get tier 9

@dense violet #screenshots message

[dense violet]

that's phase 5

so you're trying to get to phase 5

ok process some more aluminium and automate all the basic parts

[undone ether]

tier 9 is phase 4

phase 5 is assembly completion

[dense violet]

no, tier 9 you've completed phase 4

*in any case the solution is to automate all the basic parts.
that's part of hte tutorial

[undone ether]

#screenshots message

you are simply wrong

incorrect

[hollow turret]

Bro

[dense violet]

once you complete phase 4 project parts you're in tier 9

ok goodbye forever

[undone ether]

LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOT DIHFACE

[fickle locust]

You're very combative

[dense violet]

not quite a record block but in the running

[undone ether]

you

are wrong

[hollow turret]

Phase 4 doesn't need that much aluminium

[ornate saffron]

Alright onto Phase 4. And aluminimum unlocked.. Time for bed

[undone ether]

the thermal rockets man

the thermal rockets they hurt

[hollow turret]

How much do they need?

32

[undone ether]

look at the recipe

[ornate saffron]

this is my 8th ime unlocking this phase and i still get excited lol

[hollow turret]

Lol

[hollow turret]

I can't Dawg

[fickle locust]

Literally if you have any amount of aluminum you will eventually be able to complete the recipe
And if you need more, guess what the solution in the factory game is

[undone ether]

phase 3 is generally hard because then you start the aluminum and nuclear but phase 4 has the converters and shi and then it makes you want to tweak out

this game is fun torture

[royal sable]

wait how many phases are there

[fickle locust]

There are 5 phases

[royal sable]

dayum

[fickle locust]

Each phase has a requirement of project parts. Finish Phase 5 you finish the game

[ornate saffron]

well you see credits anyways

[royal sable]

im practically done with three i just need to finish my train network bc all my stuff is spread out

[reef basin]

Tier 9 is phase 5. The screenshot shows it requires completed phase 4 to unlock

[royal sable]

do they add new phases with new updates? got the game like a week ago

[hollow turret]

I mean I know I'm rn making a over abundace of aluminium with 1650 aluminum sheet and 1600 aluminum cases

[ornate saffron]

Doubtful

[fickle locust]

In early access they did it a bit more often
They haven't included a new phase since the game launched and they added phase 5

[ornate saffron]

Most of us do this. I personally process one bauxite node at a time.

[royal sable]

i see

[fickle locust]

I'd be surprised if we got a new phase for a while. The 1.2 update won't have one, that's certain

[hollow turret]

Would be great to see it but no unless they just haven't told us yet and it's a secret

[ornate saffron]

We get "new ways to play " come 1.2. So stay tuned

[hollow turret]

Yep

I'm excited

[reef basin]

Also if they add more content, it would most likely extend existing phases

[jagged nymph]

i highly highly doubt that any new phases will ever be added

[jagged nymph]

unless they release some kinda dlc

[ornate saffron]

Maybe if we get a 2.0

[jagged nymph]

but thats probably not gonna happen

[ornate saffron]

🤷

[hollow turret]

Maybe in a decade

[jagged nymph]

what would even be in satisfactory 2

[ornate saffron]

They haven't rules it out. So there is hope

[royal sable]

considering what ive seen with the space elevator thing id assume theyd do a different type of project like planet core mining or smth

[jagged nymph]

idk what would be different about it

[hollow turret]

Ye aren't they doing that with 1.2 a little

[jagged nymph]

they might, if so it hasnt been teased

unless fluid trucks are a seperate milestone

[hollow turret]

Ye maybe

[hollow turret]

Aha phase 6 is fluid trucks
Does it make sense no is it funny maybe

[undone ether]

THERES GONNA BE A PHASE 6

WHAT

oh btw now im making thermal rockets

[jagged nymph]

no

[undone ether]

awww

[fickle locust]

According to your definition there's only up to Phase 4

[undone ether]

hush pal im bathing in my 600 aluminum ingots per minute

[fickle locust]

Hey well done

You'll have your thermal propulsion rockets in no time

[jagged nymph]

only?

[hollow turret]

Lol

I got 1600 per minute

Just need to balance everything

Wish there was a stats page like Minecraft and see what you have crafted what you placed and destroyed

[jagged nymph]

there is

its called scim

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[dense violet]

save the plans you make as notes

[grizzled jolt]

Need more tickets

Hopefully the remains of like a hundred beasts can get me a hole in the floor and a hole in the wall

Die monster

[jagged nymph]

what time does 1.2 release

[abstract heron]

i think bweteen 10am to 2pm EST

[sturdy tartan]

quick question yall, can i take other peoples blueprints and save them to use for myself?

[grizzled jolt]

I have nobelisk!!! Explosives placed

[glass yarrow]

Hola

[reef basin]

yes, though I'd recommend making your own to learn how things work

[jagged nymph]

yeah, id reccomend atleast knowing how to make the blueprint by yourself before using someone elses

especially so that if theres issues, you know how to figure out if that blueprint is causing it

[gloomy tusk]

#off-topic-media got myself a new monitor

[naive kettle]

Is it alright that ive already put in 100h but still havent even finnished phase 3?

[reef basin]

Yes, you should play the game at your own pace

[oak stirrup]

i completed phase 3 doing everything manually xD only 3 assemblers and 1 manufacturer and manually putting in the materials for inputs and taking the outputs

it's fine

and i'm 70 hours in atm

[naive kettle]

Okay, cus i been seeing peoole put in like 60 and be finnishing phase 4 with beautiful decorated factories while im working with multilayerd foundation pancakes

[naive kettle]

Oh yeah ive decided on never having to hand craft anything ever again

[wispy tundra]

That feeling when you climb to the highest point you have and just look at your build ❤️
I swear to you that's the BEST part of this game

[oak stirrup]

same, phase 4 is just on another level compared to phase 3

[wispy tundra]

Me, just arriving at Phase 3 now and already feeling the order of magnitude increase in complexity: 😶

[oak stirrup]

and in phase 3 i had several mini factories, just nowhere to build a proper main base, so i was going back and forth from factories bringing stuff (didn't set up truck station/railway)

[wispy tundra]

holy mother of hell refineries BARELY FIT in the blueprint designer

[zealous iron]

Hope tomorrow we could build conveyor and stackable conveyor pole at same time. Waiting this qol since few years now 😅

[twin sinew]

Do pipes split evenly at each fork like conveyors do? Up until now I've just had my water extractors overproduce but now I have to actually balance stuff for fuel power generators

I could still ignore it if I wanted to tho

[jagged nymph]

its a bad idea to try to balance fluids

it doesnt really work

[dense violet]

you effectively cannot load balance fluids without extreme measures that are not worth it

[twin sinew]

So what does that mean

Yae or nay

[jagged nymph]

just manifold it

[dense violet]

means just manifold it

[twin sinew]

I should know what that means

[dense violet]

you know how you've had a row of splitters feeding machines on a belt?

[jagged nymph]

it means that manifolding it works way better than trying to balance fluids

[twin sinew]

OK so just hook everything up one system

[dense violet]

well have a pipe feed from Point A to Point B

don't link up multiple systems together

[ornate idol]

does the diluted fuel alt recipe require Turbo Fuel to be unlocked, or am I just getting unlucky?

[twin sinew]

I mean for like a line of refineries or whatever

[dense violet]

well you need blenders for diluted fuel, refineries for diluted packaged fuel

[twin sinew]

Not gonna hook up my fuel with my crude oil

[jagged nymph]

do you have the bledner unlocked

[ornate idol]

yes, diluted packaged fuel, does it require turbo fuel, or just the regular oil processing tier?

[dense violet]

no, just regular oil

[ornate idol]

the wiki is offline at the moment

ok, that's what I thought. Hopefully my hard drives will hold out before I actually get the facility built. lol

[rancid turret]

belts are one way, with splitters and mergers that go 2 or 3 ways, and there's priority versions of both

with pipes, they let fluid go both ways, and junctions go all ways simultaneously; fluids will go where they please and sometimes you need to build your pipes differently to force the issue

mostly when you're running pipes at 100% capacity

[twin sinew]

Hmmmm

[rancid turret]

in those instances you'll need to feed a pipe manifold from both ends

[twin sinew]

So I do need to balance sruff

Dangit

[rancid turret]

you couldn't if you tried

[twin sinew]

?

[rancid turret]

not in the belt load balancer sense

fluids go where they want

[reef basin]

no, you cannot balance fluids

[dense violet]

A loop is not 'balancing fluids'

[reef basin]

(or rather - it won't work like you think)

[rancid turret]

i put a picture in #screenshots showing a manifold fed from both ends

boarding a plane so can't help now

[twin sinew]

So what I'm seeing here is that the problem with my setup at the moment is just feeding numbers

Alright then thanks for the clarification fellas

Oh gods let's game it out has made another satisfactory video

Nevermind different game

False alarm you can all go home now

[rancid turret]

one thing to remember about pipes is, they bounce back on dead ends; machines, junctions, valves, if it's got nowhere else to go it'll go backwards, and that will eat into your pipes capacity (290 going forwards, 10 coming backwards), hence why the extra pipe in the picture i sent is needed

(at least that's how i understand it)

[tawny urchin]

That’s what I thought when I first saw the thumbnail, I almost screamed with joy

[gusty junco]

yo guys everyone's gotta comment on lets game it out to get him to play satisfactory again

[royal sable]

im assuming you figured it out by now but if youre trying to split stuff evenly just do a lil math, have a separate row of refineries for x water output

keep in mind the max flow rate of your pipes too

[reef basin]

no thanks

[royal sable]

and like the guys before said just manifold it

just do separate manifolds