satisfactory

[jagged nymph]

satisfactory is one of those games where after you buy it you play it

and then when youre done playing you close the game

[hollow geode]

I played it then bought it idk what you talking about

[jagged nymph]

interesting

[hollow geode]

lmao

ngl I really don't know why I got satisfactory

I think a friend told me to get it

[jagged nymph]

i was looking through my friends steam library like 5 years ago and said "this game looks good should i get it"

[hollow geode]

lol

[twin parcel]

Pure iron recipe + iron pipes is a great recipe combo

[jagged nymph]

he proceeded to be the worst satisfactory player ive ever seen in my life

[hollow geode]

lmao

we all start out bad

[jagged nymph]

a direct quote from him: "factories are like super late game"

[hollow geode]

bruh

[jagged nymph]

no this guy was utter shit

[hollow geode]

ok yeah he takes the crown on worst

[feral jay]

Wait what? This game has factories?

[hollow geode]

I thought my friend was bad not knowing to switch to straight or curved belts and stuff

[jagged nymph]

he put a miner on an iron node and then just a belt coming out of it to the hub. When he wanted to craft something, he grabbed raw iron off the belt and hand crafted it into ingots then other stuff

[twin parcel]

U can build big ass factories early in the game , just need some planning and allocate some space for future upgrades .

[twin parcel]

Dafuq

[jagged nymph]

he made me hand mine the limestone for the space elevator concrete

and then couldnt figure out how to use an assembler to make smart plating

[wise junco]

wet concrete, pure iron, solid steel... alt reciped the hell out of it

[jagged nymph]

like not how to automate it, to even setup the recipe and put stuff in

im not sure how

we spent about 5 hours and didnt even finish phase 1 or automate anything except raw ores

[hollow geode]

man I remember back in early access multiplayer if your ping was just high enough you could bug out a node and be infinitely mining it without being near it. you had to turn away fast enough after clicking to mine. Super nice early game. Sadly it is patched though.

[twin parcel]

Bro really said nah , let's handcraft my way to finish the game .

[hollow geode]

lmao

[jagged nymph]

i was like man this game is really bad

then like a few months later i saw a video on it by imkibitz and i was like wait what

[hollow geode]

my friend has rushed to phase 5 and we have to catch up with factories and stuff. We have a lot automated but it is not done well.

[jagged nymph]

thats the biggest mistake that i and many others make, rushing new tiers when you dont have the infrastructure

[hollow geode]

yeah he is the one to get to the end then go back though in any game

complete opposite of me

[jagged nymph]

i still havnt finished this game

[hollow geode]

I told him many times we should slow down

[twin parcel]

My first factory was a spaghetti mess , I thought I could keep up and become josh , nah I chose to delete my factory to preserve my sanity.

[hollow geode]

lol

[jagged nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-pepper-gif-2264975622811470705

[unborn nova]

do vavles make it so stuff in pipes can only flow one way?

[hollow geode]

maybe

[weak bloom]

I really appreciate that you can do a bunch of separate things with the aluminum chain and still have it generally work out, with the ratios
like I'm routing a TON of bauxite into the same location and I have ~300 available crude oil in that location for my plans
so I can use half the bauxite with normal aluminum scrap and half of it with electrode scrap, still use the same number of machines (roughly) and be able to scale out the aluminum factory pretty neatly depending on which recipe makes the most sense for each step

[hollow geode]

I know if you put a unpowered pump it locks the direction to the direction the pump is facing

[unborn nova]

ye idk

[hollow geode]

could you OC to get up top 600 oil? idk if you are wanting too but might be able to and get more of your bauxite processed in one location

[unborn nova]

From the outside, it will look like fluid is moving from the output side of the valve back to the input side!

thats from the plumber guide

theres a little thing on valves

ye idek

[weak bloom]

well it's on the west coast, and there's 2700 oil there total, I'm gonna use 2400 of it for rubber + plastic

[hollow geode]

ah yeah makes sense

[weak bloom]

but yeah I'm also putting a massive aluminum processing facility here and I'm gonna split it between normal and electrode scrap, and also split the remaining between normal ingot and pure ingot recipes based on the amount of quartz I'm getting over to this location

and it's really nice that I can divide up and scale the different parts of the aluminum chain accordingly

[near mural]

Would a manifold between multiple train stations operate normally

[weak bloom]

what do you mean by that?

like different freight stations for the same train? yeah, it should

[near mural]

I wanna make a factory with outputs to multiple train stations with diffeent amounts needed for each and im trying to avoid load balancing bcs I really dont wanna load balance it 💀

I mean I could just loop the one track yo both destinations

[weak bloom]

yeah so the throughput of the train will be limited by the consumer in all likelihood. so just manifold it into both stations, send them off to different locations
if A is using 300 and B is using 450 and you're manifolding a belt of 750 into both stations at the factory, then yes this would work, the A train would just pick up less than the B train once the system has stabilized

[near mural]

I see thank you

[sick falcon]

how much power is 9k rocket fuel

[near mural]

Has anyone lapped the world with a train and how long did it take

It seems like itd be crazy convenient to have but also sounds like a huge thing to do

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message
#screenshots message

this makes train networks super super easy to set up

[near mural]

Life changing advice

[west jackal]

but then they float

[sick falcon]

thats the tradeoff yea

[west jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1480092545223495792/Screenshot_20260308-003905.png?ex=69af13d9&is=69adc259&hm=0f6bf1ec961915340bfa28dfe65ee828bd5b1acaaf6c3ab2eb9e07498b464944&

[sick falcon]

i cant stand making curves with platforms so its a worthwhile tradeoff imo

[west jackal]

this is the design im using

i dont use foundations, its small pillars with a cross hatch inside from painted beam

curves are harder than flying trains, but i think making real curved platforms brings the world alive for me

holdon i can send a pic of how my curve turned out

if you want

[sick falcon]

sure lets see it

[unreal sand]

Is mycelium an unlimited resource?

[weak bloom]

technically you could destroy every mushroom in the world I think

[unreal sand]

Do they regrow?

[west jackal]

it is limited, but the only thing youd need a lot of it for would be filters, you can replace fabric with polyester "alt" and then youre set

[west jackal]

#screenshots message Just a small one, but you can see the idea

[unreal sand]

Well does that mean that if I run out of mycelium I can’t make any more filters

[west jackal]

i can also change how sharp the curve

[west jackal]

i just said, you can replace fabric with polyester alt, that removes mycelium 🙂

[unreal sand]

Oh

[west jackal]

just research mycelia in the MAM ❤️

[unreal sand]

I thought filters needed mycelium itself

[west jackal]

im sorry technically i spoiled, i shouldve just told you to research

[unreal sand]

Yeah I know the alt

[west jackal]

no, they take fabric, iron plate, and coal

[unreal sand]

I’m not brand new

[unreal sand]

Ah ok

[west jackal]

that mightve been something they changed, not sure. i remember never bothering automating back in the day

[unreal sand]

Fair lol

I’m starting a new save

And so far I’m already at coal power

[west jackal]

yeah ive got 1k+ hours, but ive never beat the game 🙂

[unreal sand]

Damn

[west jackal]

ive been playing since U1

lol

[unreal sand]

To be fair I’ll probably join that boat lol tier 6 looks like absolute hell

[west jackal]

no!

t6 is fun! t8 is the hell 🙂

[unreal sand]

I meant of project assembly

[simple pebble]

I never get around to automating filters because the polymer resin cost is just annoying to work with

[glad leaf]

“Choo choo mother******”

• ADA for no reason

[west jackal]

oh, phase 4 is awful yea

[west jackal]

huh? im bleeding polymer lol

[unreal sand]

I just shove the stuff into an awesome sink

[glad leaf]

Did you know, if you jump on the hub’s roof the sound will be muffled for no reason

[glad leaf]

why

[simple pebble]

yea, problem is I'm always using recycled recipes

[glad leaf]

I need oil

[unreal sand]

Have fun running a multi mile long pipeline

[warped roost]

Hi fellow Factorians.

Satisfactorians??

[gilded goblet]

where can I download Satisfactory + modpack 🙏 I'm watching Kibitz torture himself and I want to be tortured too...

[west jackal]

well my diluted fuel plant produces lots of polymer, i can turn into plastic/rubber but dont need it atm, easier to sink as im not limited on crude rn. to further that, im already at water so can easily make fabric

[west jackal]

there is a modding discord but it wont let me put the link here.

[warped roost]

There is a mod manager

[gilded goblet]

can you dm me the link please

[unreal sand]

There’s a modding community for this game?

[gilded goblet]

yes

everything needs screws in Satisfactory +

it's great.

[unreal sand]

Oh hell no

[west jackal]

https://smm.ficsit.app/

[unreal sand]

Screws are my worst enemy

[gilded goblet]

Belts and Conveyors need screws too..

[west jackal]

that is the mod manager, ill dm you the server invite tho 🙂

[sick falcon]

wtf

[gilded goblet]

If any of you know what Greg Tech New Horizons is, I play that. I want torture in Satisfactory too.. I don't want any saving from video game abuse

[west jackal]

i think there may be an official invite somewhere on this server, i bet there is a bot command for it, but i dont know it 🙁

[warped roost]

Does anyone know how I can give myself materials, turbo motors, elevator parts. etc in a creative game?

[unreal sand]

I think you may need some as well given you called that great

[west jackal]

the only way I know how is using SCIM for save editing

[west jackal]

load save in SCIM and then click on an inventory, edit inventory, then you can select what you want and how many you want

[warped roost]

By putting items in a chest

[west jackal]

yes

[upbeat jacinth]

Advanced game settings

Give item button

[west jackal]

does advanced let you give yourself items though?

oh thats new haha

[upbeat jacinth]

It’s as old as AGS itself

[warped roost]

Ahh, Okay, I used that to unlock all the levels, did not see how to add in ventory. I will look into that. Thx~!

[west jackal]

AGS are new for me 🤷‍♂️

[warped roost]

AGS?

[upbeat jacinth]

Yeah making it blend into the other toggle options is a weird decision

[warped roost]

Advanced..... got it

[ivory condor]

https://discord.com/invite/xkVJ73E

[west jackal]

i tried that and it killed my invite link slech

[upbeat jacinth]

I’d rather it be its own tab that looks like Minecraft creative menu

[ivory condor]

my link isnt killed hmmmm

[west jackal]

idk

it did it again when i sent the link for same server

[gilded goblet]

Oh i have many screws loose

I need more video game abuse (satisfactory can no longer be my safe place)

[upbeat jacinth]

It hasn’t been for me since the great animation breakage

[ivory condor]

if your fine with modding, there is plenty of ways to torture yourself in this game

[gilded goblet]

I love modding games

I just came from modded minecraft torture

[ivory condor]

then you'll love modding this game

much torture awaits

[west jackal]

there are some mods im really interested in, like requiring constant elevator parts. thatll be my next playthrough 🙂

[gilded goblet]

I seen screw spam tin and having to crush ores before processing them, I was already interested.

I also need that digital storage mod before I genuinely want to commit crimes, so I'm gonna throw that in too.....

I want horribly abusive mods, but I want some QoL too

[west jackal]

dim depot is good enough. if you need more, add more depots

[fierce granite]

I was debating on the constant elevator parts or space elevator x1000 requirement

[gilded goblet]

(Both.)

[upbeat jacinth]

How does it punish you for stopping feeding it parts

[fierce granite]

Don't think both would go together, but the constant did have the ability to increase the amount

[gilded goblet]

OH yay

[fierce granite]

It removes your ability to build anything above that level

[ivory condor]

good question hmmmm

[ivory condor]

that would do it

[upbeat jacinth]

Or it’s a “maintain said ppm for x hours until tech unlocked” then you will get too lazy to take the factory down anyway

[ivory condor]

no more feeding parts for that tier, no more rewards from that tier from you now, i like that idea, punishing you for not planning properly, only for the true pioneers

[west jackal]

thats the mod i was talking about wanting to do. i just want to run credits atleast once first

[upbeat jacinth]

Has a chance of backfiring when somehow production stops and you can’t start it back up though

If it makes it into 1.2 as a game mode I wonder how they do it

[fierce granite]

1.2 is probably when I'll start a new run with the crazyness

[ivory condor]

didnt get back into the game much with 1.1, ill see what 1.2 brings

[west jackal]

im only on t7, so if ive finished by then, then ill restart

ive got like a dozen incomplete saves, most are bricked

[ivory condor]

all i heard was rain and fluid trucks and a possible random ore nodes for a game mode, but nothing that makes me really want to play

[west jackal]

ruined nuclear, miners on oil nodes with conveyors going into fuel gens, the works.

[upbeat jacinth]

Yeah it’s the vague posting update

[ivory condor]

though ill probably boot it up just to see what the weather looks like back in the game now

[west jackal]

the old weather was nice

[upbeat jacinth]

Although they also didn’t do as much as before to hype it up so I don’t have high expectations

[ivory condor]

yeah it was, it was lost in the engine upgrade from ue4 to ue5, it'll be nice to have it back

i wonder if it'll be visually similar or different in some way now

[west jackal]

yeah. the engine upgrade was def nice, but ive missed the rain

i hope they add like thunderstorms! that would be cool

[upbeat jacinth]

It’s the tropics after all

[hollow geode]

they are adding rian back in 1.2 right?

or is that just rumor?

[ivory condor]

yes, confirmed for 1.2

[hollow geode]

if I can type that would be great my god

[west jackal]

also fluid trucks, although they will likely be useless.

[ivory condor]

devs confirmed 1.2 will have rain back

[hollow geode]

yeah I hope there are fluid pipe fixes to make it better

[west jackal]

i feel like most people only need to move fluids after trains

[upbeat jacinth]

Let’s just hope the road sign means something more significant than droplets

[verbal dagger]

As far as unlocking alt recipes from hard drives, I know that if you have something researched, you want to keep it so it stays out of the pool of alt recipes to draw from when you research a hard drive.

I think I saw in a youtube video that some recipes unlock at higher tiers or phases. Do you have to have those phases unlocked, or is it just a priority thing? Like if say I was on phase one, all alt recipes would draw from the lowest phase/tier recipes first, and then draw from higher level phase recipes?

That's probably worded funky, but not sure how else to phrase it.

[hollow geode]

yeah

[west jackal]

you have to have it unlocked

[ivory condor]

doubt it, as annoying as mk2 pipes are

[west jackal]

for example, i want nitro rocket fuel alt. i need to unlock particle enrichment from t8 before it is added to the pool

same with an rcu alt, need the base recipe milestone first

[verbal dagger]

thanks

[west jackal]

yup!

[ivory condor]

i would be surprised if 1.2 included any real changes to how fluid in pipes works but we'll see

[upbeat jacinth]

The hopium is diluting

[west jackal]

the wiki online will tell you what researches are required btw

[hollow geode]

yeah I sadly think you are right. I have been fighting fluid pipes over the past few days and it really is all becaue they do so many things on fluid behind the scenes. The amount of physics and calculations on fluid is insane

[west jackal]

tbh idc, the game is amazing. I hope they add a new map though, id be SOOOOOOOOOOOO down for a paid dlc new map, or satisfactory 2 that is just a different world with similiar mechanics and just small changes, like buildings look different, slightly different resources/crafting trees.

[hollow geode]

satisfactory 2 would not be for a LONG time

[west jackal]

ive been playing satisfactory for coming on 7 years, so something like that would absolutely ruin my life because id play it 24/7

[hollow geode]

seen as 1.0 just dropped a year ago

new map would be sick

[west jackal]

i mean... i agree.... but its been in development 7 years, and i dont mean complete reworks, all the physics and everything could stay the same, just some "small" changes

[jaunty bone]

new world would be more awesome

[west jackal]

theres already mods that do these things

[hollow geode]

then it would be a major update not a new game

[upbeat jacinth]

And so many other games in this genre were born during its development that it’d be hard to bring genuinely new thing to the table without genre hopping

[ivory condor]

hand crafted maps are alot of work, if it does come it would probably be with a dlc, to justify the time and effort put into it

[hollow geode]

yeah and I think most people are alright with that

I know I am

[west jackal]

id buy a paid dlc...

[verbal dagger]

hahaha, I just found out you can flush things down the toilet XD

[upbeat jacinth]

The only distinction would be the art style, and I hope they really lock in on it after they’re done with what’s currently on their plate

[west jackal]

shit id be fine dropping another 40

most would complain abotu that, but ive gotten SO much enjoyment from the game, i dont care

[ivory condor]

for sure, if a dlc via a new map comes out im 💯 buying it

[hollow geode]

speaking of art style I honestly hate the new look of Super Compters. Old one looked better imo

[upbeat jacinth]

Unfortunate circumstances
It was the model for quantum computers

[hollow geode]

yeah

[upbeat jacinth]

And it does look like one

[hollow geode]

but quantum computers and super computers are VERY different things irl

[west jackal]

i agree

[ivory condor]

yeah that was weird they gave super computers the same visual model as quantum computers

[west jackal]

yes.

[gilded goblet]

40+ mods already being added

[ivory condor]

i still think it was a weird choice

now we are cooking, let the torture start

[upbeat jacinth]

They def cooking custom animations for every constructor recipe trust
That’s why the default bolts and plates are still broken after like 2 years

[ivory condor]

I thought that was for optimization

Too many custom animations being more expensive to render?

[exotic fractal]

CHAT

I FINALLY DID IT, I BUILT A HEXAGON

(this is an impressive feat for me ;w;)

Sapphic niko is a goat for his advice

[ivory condor]

Hope you did it in a bp

[exotic fractal]

indeed, i wasn't risking not being able to recreate it XD

[ivory condor]

Good XD

[unreal sand]

I want to eventually make a train line around the map

[twin parcel]

Trucks vs trains , why do people prefer trains ? I see trucks are easier to set up , just make ur own road blueprints .

[upbeat jacinth]

With the new instancing tech they probably can pull it off
The question is what is the art department doing for all this time other than the fluid truck

[fierce valley]

trucks can be iffy with thru put, they can be a bit laggy but that’s hopefully getting fixed with this new update who knows

[fierce granite]

I feel trains are easier to set up and expand as needed.

[fierce valley]

trucks are a bit more cheaper though on the infrastructure side

[ivory condor]

I have the feeling the art department is cooking something top secret

[fierce valley]

take up a less area to set up a station, so i’d say it’s up to what resource is needed and where it’s going

In my world, i have a few truck stations but they’re set up over short distances across difficult terrain

[fierce granite]

Toss anything accidentally in the truck route and cause a problem, trains, you can easily just move the track

[fierce valley]

yeah that’s true

again though it’s all up really on the situation i feel

trains are better for bigger hauls and when you need more accurate thru put or at least efficient ones

however both are cool imo

[west jackal]

i have trucks fall off roads constantly even with good path setup

trucks arent bad, but trains are way better imo

[fierce valley]

yeah the pathing is a bit buggy

[west jackal]

item transport goes as follows Trains > Drones > Factory Cart > Truck > Long Conveyors > Tractor

[glad leaf]

Y

[fierce valley]

sometimes trucks can just stop moving, go off their pathing, or go off their path slightly (big problem on roads built for them)

[glad leaf]

Weird

I accidentally built a warehouse in the sky

[fierce valley]

I think they’re getting an update with the fluid truck coming in with the new update soon

[glad leaf]

And then I lost my jet pack

In the warehouse

[west jackal]

yes. it constantly falls off the road

[native tapir]

🤔

What indeed

[harsh pier]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-peek-hiding-hide-gif-5340342

[dense bone]

apart from fuel what is compacted coal used for

[weak bloom]

Only decision factor should be 'choo' vs 'beep' tbh

[west jackal]

there are 2 alts, one for black powder, one for steel. Other than fuel/ fuel alts

[fierce valley]

choo AND beep

best of both worlds

[unborn nova]

whats the best way to dispose of water from stuff like alumin scrap? its sorta annoying to work it back into systems because it produces like 2/3 of what alumina solution needs and using a bunch of plastic to sink it seems sub optimal

[dense bone]

coal powerplants work fine

[gilded goblet]

I think I just sinked everything that was backing up

[fierce valley]

I normally just throw it into a coal gen, and grab extra coal from the coal already being used

[willow pond]

so what's with the occasional weird square texture bug, usually underwater?

[unborn nova]

can coal gens use petrol for fuel

[fierce valley]

No, but they can use petroleum coke

[unborn nova]

ok ye perfect thats what i meant

[fierce valley]

man i gotta finish my
cooling system and turbo motor plant tomorrow

[west jackal]

try underclocking or overclocking machines to match the recycled water

[unborn nova]

ye ive kinda tried to do that but i think its too time consuming to go underclock the water pumps on the edge of the map where im pulling water from

coal gens i think are actually tech

they burn like no fuel

[west jackal]

fair enough

wet concrete alt is my go to

or pure iron/copper

[unborn nova]

oops

[unborn nova]

ya same sorta

im using a steamed copper sheet recipe that im running water to

from a different aluminum factory

[west jackal]

lol yea

i plan on processing all the aluminum in the world in one location

... little scary

[unborn nova]

im making a factory that makes 25 warp drives a minute rn so im just going backwards from each part

[west jackal]

i uh.. ive never seen t9

last time i finished t8 there wasnt a t9

[unborn nova]

im almost done making the fused mod frames for the thermal rockets

[west jackal]

nice!

[unborn nova]

ye then ill need to make turbo motors

and then thats 3/4s done

but i think thermal propulsion rockets are the hardest part to make

so many steps

[west jackal]

yes fr

(dont know, havent seen recipe, but ive seen enough people talking about it)

[unborn nova]

lol

[west jackal]

im working on setting up proper logistics and not just spaghetti trains on the ground

ive linked it a few times, but im very happy with the train tracks im working on

[gilded goblet]

setting up mods is annoying.

[west jackal]

huh?

[gilded goblet]

the amount of compatibility and updates and wrong mods and all that is like, actually irritating

[west jackal]

oh.

ive never done more than a couple mods

sorry 🙁

[gilded goblet]

Or when it tells me Digital storage needs an update from 1.3.11 > 1.3.9

Because downgrading a mod, is updating evidentally.

[west jackal]

maybe try following a modpack from someone else like kibitz

[static gyro]

gonna get it to satisfactory again tomorrow

anybody have any tips on how to make highways for materials and other stuff? I want to have a main area where all my product is imported

[warm finch]

trains. Trains. Trains! TRAINS! and more trains!

[static gyro]

but thats superrrr late in the game, and I never used trains or anything like that before

[warm finch]

it's actually not... and if you're not even halfway, don't worry about importing everything to one location yet. work on progressing through the milestones and learn from the tiers

[static gyro]

well I had 2 previous saves and didnt get super far, I know i got to the point where I had to make advanced wiring or something for the space elevator, trains would be completely new for me

[west jackal]

trains are considered early game. you get them t5 or t6 (which seems like halfway or further in) but by time spent its like 1/4 or 1/5 of the way into the game

regardless, if you dont want/cant do trains, i wouldnt bother with central factories/storage, but if you insist, you can build a conveyor bus, ive seen some blueprints with 24 or something conveyors transporting items

[static gyro]

im not that hard headed haha, what other options are there? in my other saves I just had factories everywhere and used powerlines to get around, but after seeing professional factories I was amazed and really wanted something similar to that

[west jackal]

getting around? i mean you can use zipline, there is the explorer vehicle (quartz) thats pretty quick, tractors are slow but work

hypertubes/hypercannons are amazing

if you are talking about moving items youre limited to trucks tractors, conveyors, trains and drones (t8)

oh and factory carts... but you need an army of them to move items quickly

[glad drum]

hypertube cannon for long distance + fast conveyor with blade runner slide jump with jetpack/parachute for short range I think are the two best movement options in the game

[unkempt blade]

guess it depends how you define an army

[west jackal]

go away satan

🙂

[unkempt blade]

I love you too, buddy

[west jackal]

honestely, i enjoy talking with/reading your chats

i was more referencing your old username saying carts take x6.66 screws or something along those lines

[glad drum]

you sir - my jump pad factory cart thing is super inconsistent and not really working... will it help to use more jump pads, put them closer together?

zig zag em?
bounce em up and down from ground to ceiling?

[unkempt blade]

yeah but a screwless factory cart is a crime against nature

[glad drum]

maybe its possible to make a train so long that the factory carts hitch a ride on the train cars??

[west jackal]

tbh

factory carts suckk 😉

im going to build a factory cart skate park though

[unkempt blade]

When I use them with jump pads they're normally at a diagonal setting. For the first one I drive off a foundation or something and drop in on top of it. From there they normally seem pretty consistent for me. I can reliably bounce on pads across a lake or whatever

It does take a bit of tuning to get them that way though but the cart doesn't really have to land exactly on the pad. There's a bit of a hitbox bubble around it

[warm finch]

an army of screws

[unkempt blade]

I thought I had a cart jumpad video somewhere in my drive but can't seem to find it. I'll dig around a bit more tomorrow

[west jackal]

i CRANKED the production of quartz and iron plates. still burning through it wayyyyyy too fast with this new train structures

[warm finch]

sloop em

[glad leaf]

Why can’t I run

[warm finch]

do you have legs?

[glad leaf]

No

They got deleted because mined uranium and put it in my
Pocket without a hazmat suit

When do I even get the hazmat suit

No questions about how I got uranium in my pocket without a hazmat suit, it just happened

[warm finch]

do you have aluminum?

[glad leaf]

No

[warm finch]

then it'll be a while lol

[glad leaf]

What tier is it

Or is it MAM research

What is ficsite used for

[warm finch]

!wikisearch hazmat+suit

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hazmat+suit

[warm finch]

!wikisearch ficsite

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=ficsite

[upbeat jacinth]

delicious

[glad leaf]

I know they make ficsite Trigons
But what are those
For

Gotta be for the space elevator or smt right? Or do they just exist

[normal orbit]

ficsite trigons are for the t6 belts, several buildings and to make certain tier 9 items. most notorious being ficsonium fuel rods which need a lot of them

[glad leaf]

Oh god

I flushed a bomb down the toilet and ADA said “what a lovely suprise for the next person” and I completely lost it

[hybrid nymph]

Just got to get my homework done and then I'm going to get on

[glad leaf]

What time is it

[fiery pewter]

What type of question is this even

[glad leaf]

A question about time doongus

[fiery pewter]

You're on your phone 😭 check it yourself

[jagged nymph]

Øŋîőñ

[fiery pewter]

...

what.

[cursive prairie]

is there a way to check my altitude in game?

[jagged nymph]

Preventive torque bylaws

[fiery pewter]

Look down, then you get a pretty accurate view of how high you are

[cursive prairie]

was hunting spheres, map shows elevation so thought it will be useful

[mighty hare]

My nitrogen/Compacted Coal outpost has six giant spider spawns and a bonus cave with 5 more.

Gonna have heart attack before I finish building it...

[sharp basin]

Yo guyz. 🤟
Since I’m early phase 3 I think I should prioritize energy, meaning fuel. As you know, I already got several solutions, but I want something big from the start. Doesn’t have to be turbofuel though. And I got all the alt recipes I could need! What’d you say?

[stuck dagger]

A turbofuel setup is bigger than a regular fuel setup

And I went almost immediately to turbofuel when I got to phase 3, so go big methinks

[sharp basin]

Cuz I heard here don’t go turbofuel man, just go fuel, just a 33% difference, then go full nuclear

Then I heard go fuel, then wait for rocket fuel, turbo / ionized fuel are useless

So I’m like mmmmm

[normal orbit]

turbo isnt useless, its just people like to wait for nitro rocket fuel since its extremely easy to setup and you can build a diluted fuel plant, then just tack on the nitro rocket fuel blenders and just pipe it into the same pipes as the fuel went

[sharp basin]

For now all I did is a set up for packaged liquid fuel for my jetpack

[sharp basin]

Yeah but blenders aren’t available before tier 7

[normal orbit]

yes. so diluted packaged fuel in tier 5, then add rocket step in tier 7

you dont need to rebuild fuel gens, just add some to each line and/or clock em up

just put the rocket fuel into the former fuel pipes to the generators

[sharp basin]

Good advice, thanks 🙏

Which alt recipes you recommend at that early point?

[normal orbit]

in phase 3? diluted packaged fuel is prob #1, heavy oil residue #2. the recycled plubber are also fantastic

[sharp basin]

OK i’ll look into these

Do some maths

[glad leaf]

My brain is itchy

[sharp basin]

@normal orbit I need the blender to do the combo alt Diluted (Packaged) Fuel with alt Heavy Oil Residue right?

[normal orbit]

na

just refineries... so many refineries

and some packagers

2 packaged water + 1 heavy oil in a refinery = 2 packaged fuel. so package water, unpackage fuel.

you can make blueprints with 1 refinery and 2 packagers and just have the canisters loop in side there, like add 20 or so

[sharp basin]

❤️

Because I heard I can quadruple my production that way

[normal orbit]

yes

[sharp basin]

OK I think I’ll do just that 👌

Then wait for rocket 🚀

[smoky flame]

If you dismantle all of your dimensional depots, will it remove the cloud storage completely and destory all items in the cloud?

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message this is my diluted packaged fuel blueprint i've been using for awhile now

theres also a decorative blueprint i add ontop of it :p

if you have a mk3 designer like going into a creative world, i think you can place the packagers dirtectly below the refinery

[normal orbit]

nope

[glad leaf]

I’m not sure that works

[normal orbit]

?

[glad leaf]

What

Who even are you

[hybrid nymph]

she's a community contributor

she knows a lot

[cunning glade]

Interactive map gets so laggy sometimes holy

[cunning glade]

Smart person

[glad leaf]

What

[cunning glade]

The ocean over by rocky desert how far out can u build over there

[cunning glade]

They're a smart person

[normal orbit]

a fair bit

[glad leaf]

Why is it when I place a bomb and detonate
It, I usually die

[cunning glade]

Gonna see if I can put my aluminum plant over there

[normal orbit]

why not where the bauxite is? :p

[cunning glade]

If not maybe a little bit lower in the rocket desert further from the starting area

[cunning glade]

Cuz all resources are being brought in from train

All I need is a spot with water

12k bauxite 9k quartz 14k limestone 1250oil

[normal orbit]

you dont need that much water

[cunning glade]

21k

36.6666 water extractors

Fully oced

[normal orbit]

you're using the waste water tho?

[cunning glade]

Pumps is factorio lol

Wait truth what fucking thing was I looking at then

[normal orbit]

should only need 3690 water

[cunning glade]

Oh that was my nuclear setup

[normal orbit]

if you use sloppy+electrode

[cunning glade]

Yeah I had looked at the wrong planner oops

[normal orbit]

820 water if you use instant scrap, tho you need some more for the acid

[cunning glade]

So not excited for the 390 cheap silica assemblers

[hybrid nymph]

oh just a little piece of information, for those that don't own the game yet, it's on sale right now on Steam

[cunning glade]

Well I still kinda wanna out it there but only 3k water means I could place it near a well I think

[normal orbit]

until 19th, 30% off

[hybrid nymph]

indeed yes, it's still $13 off

same price as Minecraft right now

[cunning glade]

This means I could put it in the grassy fields

Or even dessert as I won't have any copper or alot of resources left there so might be worth too put there

[normal orbit]

i hope not :p nuclear gonna need so much more water than that :D

[cunning glade]

That's for making the fuel alone lol

[normal orbit]

2100 uranium full chain is around 630 fully oc'd extractors :D

[cunning glade]

Then I'm doing something wrong

[normal orbit]

prob some math error, 21k water isnt 36.666 extractors, its 70 at full oc

[cunning glade]

Truth that's cuz I'm thinking one does 600 for some reason when it's 2

How does one make excited photonic matter out of nothing

[reef basin]

out of power

[cunning glade]

I see

That looked weird

[normal orbit]

air + power = excitement :p

[cunning glade]

Fair enough

[cunning glade]

Idk if u saw but u were talking about a feedback loop I think with the residue?

[normal orbit]

tho its more like, light + power i suppose. since its photonic

[cunning glade]

What exactly did u mean

Cuz I need 8000 residue a min

And like the only way too get that is with a byproduct being made with the nuclear power plant it seems

[normal orbit]

just a reuse loop. the ficsonium fuel rods produce half of the residue you need to refine the waste to ficsonium

[cunning glade]

Either 400 power shards or 300 superposition oscillators

[cunning glade]

Ah so if I just sloop thoose

[normal orbit]

you can make it with reanimated sam too

[cunning glade]

Yeah that's another thing I'm looking into

[cunning glade]

I need 16k for 8000 holy

[normal orbit]

you do not need 8000

[glad leaf]

What do I do with somersloop

[reef basin]

research it

[cunning glade]

With this recipe yes the other one is 7400 but its with 336 super oscillators

[glad leaf]

But it makes my bones itch

[hybrid nymph]

I've been thinking

I just can't keep doing this to myself anymore

[normal orbit]

224 Pu waste = 4480 residue needed, half comes from fuel rods, so you only need 2240 total

[hybrid nymph]

I am tired of constantly trying to impress people

[glad leaf]

Okay

[hybrid nymph]

it's mentally exhausting

[glad leaf]

Then stop

[hybrid nymph]

and nothing I ever do feels like it's "good enough"

[cunning glade]

Okay disabling both fixes it

Tools just being wacky ig

[glad leaf]

This isn’t the place to talk about your mental issues

[hybrid nymph]

I know...

I'll stop

[cunning glade]

Okay I may have fixed it but I need a silly amount of Sam

[glad leaf]

Sam

[cunning glade]

I need almost 19k

[glad leaf]

what

Oh

[cunning glade]

I think if I buy enough sloops and do reanimated Sam I could be fine

[glad leaf]

Do people even play on console

[normal orbit]

19k seems a bit much, but yes you will need more than whats on the map. so at least one step has to be slooped

[cunning glade]

Quite a bit yeah

[glad leaf]

Must be hard

[cunning glade]

Wym?

[glad leaf]

Controllers
Usually have slow camera movement

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=9mjJcf08LdPAWTvbGApj well heres the tools link

[cunning glade]

depends entirely on sens and sens curve

[normal orbit]

i'll be honest, i think the tools are throwing you off, you should prob just sit down and do it by hand. cause your numbers make zero sense

[glad leaf]

How has my one coal powered generator not shut down after I connected like 80 different buildings to that power grid

[normal orbit]

cuz they prob idle and draw 0.1mw each

[stuck dagger]

Buildings don't use (much) power until they're active

[glad leaf]

I have a huge iron factory that’s always running

And a steel factory

[stuck dagger]

How many biofuel gens do you have

[glad leaf]

What

Like biomass burners or something else

[stuck dagger]

Biomass burners, yeah

[glad leaf]

I don’t use those

[cunning glade]

i mean it doesnt seem that off but fair idk

waiting for the machines i need before i try and do that

[normal orbit]

"not far off" "336 super position oscillators" mmk

[cunning glade]

if u enable the alts it will prefer too use them

why i have no clue ask greeny

[cunning glade]

my guess is cuz of the feedback loop it looks like

as it takes me from needing 10k sam too 3k

downside byproduct

[normal orbit]

you said 19k sam tho, i am so confused

[cunning glade]

19k sam no sloops

that was me not adding an input for any of the sam stuff

with it still like 10k tho

also can u sink synthetic power shards

cuz if not the superpostion dont seem too bad

thats 12m sink points a min

[normal orbit]

you cannot sink shards no

[cunning glade]

okay so def not doing powershards

thatd produce more waste than nuclear'

fucking 480 a min

[cunning glade]

kinda silly cuz we made them but ight

[twin parcel]

uh just attach a priority power switch on ur power shard factory and turn them on when ever u need extra shards ? upload them to dimensional depot for easier access?

[normal orbit]

no he wants the dark matter residue byproduct

which isnt great on shards, cause they need dark matter crystals to make

and you can't sink shards

[pearl sparrow]

anyone wanna cuddles

[twin cradle]

.
I bought satisfactory with steam

but my i3 igpu is so poor to work

I think it's lower than 30 fps with lowest graphic quality setting

oh my money 🔧 🔧 🔧 🔧 🔧 🔧 🔧 🔧

[ornate saffron]

get a refund.

[twin cradle]

NO.
I WILL upgrade my computer in this year.
Really

btw I'm not sure I have enough money

[normal orbit]

Oh ye. Satisfactory is very CPU hungy

[void cliff]

That’s the right attitude. I bought a new pc just to run my old one as a server

[twin cradle]

lol

[neat plank]

Me whose PC is 12? 14 years old.

[twin cradle]

wha da

[neat plank]

Yeah.

My CPU was launched in 2012.

[cunning glade]

and here i feel old with a 4 year old pc

[normal orbit]

I am so happy I upgraded when I did before the ai garbage ruined the pricing

[neat plank]

Ol' reliable.

She's not much to look at.

[weak bloom]

I built my new PC in March 2025 and went all out on it with 64gb RAM, 9800x3d, 5080, and it might have accidentally been the most responsible financial decision of my life......

[cunning glade]

had 12700k 6900xt upgraded the gpu too a 7900xtx

[neat plank]

I mostly play Satisfactory on Steamdeck though.

[cunning glade]

plan too get 9850x3d soon some ddr5 and a nice watercooling loop

[ornate saffron]

Im still running my 5900x, rx 6900xt combo. Ill likely not upgrade anytime soon.

I downgraded my ram to 64gb.

Sold half to help pay for my eyes surgery

[cunning glade]

do u use afmf2?

6900xtxh which i had was fucking amazing

my friends borrowing it now

but with it getting that 4k wise it got alot better

[ornate saffron]

Afmf2? I am not good with acronyms

[cunning glade]

amd fluid motion frames 2

ig 2.1 now or whatever

[ornate saffron]

Oh, not generally

[swift turret]

@topaz talon it probably still thinks the boulder is there. If you relog it should fix itself

[topaz talon]

nope

[cunning glade]

fair i use it all the time cuz why not it feels nice and looks good

[ornate saffron]

I still have my gpu on silent eco mod. I dont generally play anything competitive and I lock games to 60fps

[cunning glade]

ah fair

i play 4k 165hz so i aim for that

and tbh i just leave it uncapped

[ornate saffron]

Fair, I do have a 4k monitor but I only use it for art.

I do gaming at 1440p my monitor is force limited to 120hz as well lol .

It was to hot for my liking

Satisfactory plays well and so does the games I play with friends. So I am happy.

I don't play much else that is intensive

My fuel power plant started acting up again. I guess thats on the agenda when I get time to play

[void cliff]

Satisfactory doesn’t get 165 fps for me on a i9 14900, RTX 5070 Ti at 4K

[stone scarab]

Fahh

[ornate saffron]

SO

[stone scarab]

Not you

[ornate saffron]

LA, Ti, Doe

[stone scarab]

Tf does that even mean

[ornate saffron]

Its a song taught in kindergarten

DO - a deer, a female deer
RE - a drop of golden sun
MI - a name, I call myself
FA - a long long way to run
SO - a needle pulling thread
LA - a note to follow SO
TI - a drink with jam and bread
That will bring us back to do
Doe! - a deer, a female deer

[stone scarab]

Yeah also the last one is do, and how is this relevant?

Oh

[ornate saffron]

You said fahh

Pronounced the same as

Fa

[stone scarab]

Still corny as hell

[ornate saffron]

Oh no doubt

[stone scarab]

Silence thyself at once thy foul creature

[zenith pecan]

Yay, 12 constructors at 247.9167% , I swear quickwire numbers were designed to induce madness.

My fault for 127.5 computers I guess.

[topaz talon]

epic embed fail

[stone scarab]

Didnt happen

Idk what ur talking about

[zenith pecan]

It happened, we saw it, dirty deletes just don't count 😛

[stone scarab]

Proof?

[zenith pecan]

The reply is still there as is the deletion 🤷‍♂️

[stone scarab]

But who are they replying to?

[topaz talon]

to u

[stone scarab]

Proof?

[zenith pecan]

Not relevant, witnesses are enough.

[stone scarab]

Nuh uh

You could have been paid off

[zenith pecan]

This is discord, not parliament, who's paying anybody.

[stone scarab]

Somebody

[cunning glade]

Amd chill is very interesting

Also why does ada care about the whale ticks

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> is there a stream tomorrow and is mikael better and what time is stream due to some of us have time change?

[obsidian zodiac]

hi leo happy monday. mikael is physically better but his ailments mentally are unresolvable. stream is tomorrow at the usual time of 4PM CET

[abstract heron]

so 4pm cet is 10am EST okay

[abstract heron]

Thx hope he is 100% better and ya time change on early sunday which i dislike

[normal orbit]

tried to fix the mental issues with some blunt force to the noggin? :p

[abstract heron]

i just thought stream was at 11am due to time change

[past dune]

Finally did it...

7.19 Terrawatts of Pure Vanilla Power

#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Can u explain what I'm looking at I haven't gotten too mess with pa and converters yet

[spice patio]

But aren't you at EDT now?

[normal orbit]

power boost over 5tw, pure vanilla. haha no

[ornate saffron]

All are mental ailments are unresolvable

[abstract heron]

Yes

[cunning glade]

I'm assuming just a bunch of alien power matrixs

[abstract heron]

i sometimes hate this time change 🙁

[spice patio]

So you need to convert CET to EDT, not CET to EST.
As EU hasn't changed to summer time yet.

[ornate saffron]

That's some dedication

[obsidian zodiac]

the only treatment at this time is Pokemon FireRed

[past dune]

what i call the motherboard? its all the necessary special buildings to make plutonium rods, ficsonium rods and alien power matrices

[abstract heron]

i heard that game went to switch 2

[ornate saffron]

More of a jade cocoon guy. But I can respect

[abstract heron]

is there a video this Friday jason which ill probbaly ask in stream tmr?

[past dune]

pure vanilla my friend.. if you want to see the math:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BmSZGt1UbRt77WelIN9rYvyp99chb3nIuoGN4fybw4s/edit?usp=sharing

[normal orbit]

you are using a heck of a lot more sloops than whats available

[past dune]

The only cheating I do in my game

Creative mode, no build cost..

the few drones i use, dont use fuel, since creative mode...

I fly everywhere

.
thats all

[modern vale]

Laughs in duplication glitches

[obsidian zodiac]

next video will be releasing 17th

[humble osprey]

where do i go for help related to mods?

[past dune]

10 alien boosters.. is max you can make without cheating.. im using 10...

[abstract heron]

so we not getting ANY teasers for 1.2

minus what we already have

[modern vale]

Theres a separate server for modded satisfactory

[humble osprey]

im trying to get this mod which makes trains faster called "Speedy Trains Redux" but it wont let me click the install button, what am i doing wrong?

[past dune]

satis mod channel

[spice patio]

Again, why the times need to be said in UTC...
Not local time...

So that 16:00 CET is currently 15:00 UTC.
But when EU switches to summer time, it will be 16:00 CEST, and 14:00 UTC.
But the community managers will probably still mistakenly say it is 16:00 CET, meaning CEST.

So it will be 11:00 am EDT, until EU also switches, then it will be 10:00 am EDT, until next relevant summer/winter time switch...

[humble osprey]

oh can you give me the link to that please?

[abstract heron]

Good point and thx

[past dune]

check ur dms

[obsidian zodiac]

there have been at least 5 teasers in the past year leo pls

[abstract heron]

and will engine update come first to stable or come with 1.2 when its ready jason

[spice patio]

Jason: Long time complaint to Snutt etc. that you don't use UTC, only sweden local time, often forgetting to mark the summer time variant correctly.

[past dune]

using 10 alien boosters... theres 10 sloops on the map... math checks out.

[obsidian zodiac]

for you baldur i will make a good effort to use UTC

[spice patio]

Just makes that you convert it once into standardized time (and can also include local).
And then the reader has to just handle their own timezone and summer/winter time.
Not two conversions for the reader.

[abstract heron]

also what happened that mikael completes the game from tutorial on console how is that going? or with controller

[abstract heron]

i just thought that they had theres already

[nocturne sentinel]

Should i use factory carts to transport ||oil||

[abstract heron]

uh why

[cunning glade]

Package it and transport it by hand🤔

[glacial drum]

@unkempt blade What do you think?

[past dune]

@normal orbit

#screenshots message

[glacial drum]

Man nuclear is gonna be a hell of a thing to setup

I really gotta finish my 333 mod frames factory.

[nocturne sentinel]

Automation is key

[unkempt blade]

you should follow your heart

[past dune]

from experience... dont start ficsonium fuel rods, until ur also ready for alien power matrices... dealing with Dark matter residue is a pain otherwise...

[glacial drum]

DMR is rather easy with the DMC recipe is it not?

[nocturne sentinel]

Thank you

[past dune]

At full vanilla

You can make:

50.4 Uranium fuel rods
22.4 Plutonium fuel rods
39.4 Ficsonium fuel rods
50 Alien power matrices

[normal orbit]

you storing the plutonium waste or not burning all rods?

[past dune]

have to store the excess plutonium waste, correct...

you cant have 50 alien power matrices, if you process all the plutonium waste...

@normal orbit

[normal orbit]

yeah, ok, in that case i'll concede

otherwise you need to use the sloops to make more sam for the refinement

[abstract heron]

yay with my 82.4 nuclear pasta project is going 😛

[cunning glade]

slooped?

[abstract heron]

probbaly not or overclocked and yes ik there is not enough copper

[past dune]

#screenshots message

my waste holding facily.. can probably last over a year or 2 before becomes an issue

[cunning glade]

what

[normal orbit]

all copper on map allow something like 75 pasta or so

[cunning glade]

134.4

[abstract heron]

not overclocked and not slooped and probbaly using mods to have me more copper

[cunning glade]

oh sorry tools like too use sam by default

[abstract heron]

also yay 18,771 hrs on record

[past dune]

why do u need that much pasta?

[ornate saffron]

Its yummy

[past dune]

7.9 pasta = 39.4 ficsonium fuel rods.

[cunning glade]

134.4 pasta a min could be a fun project

[abstract heron]

and a nice project

[abstract heron]

i am just hoping for 1.2 that it little brings down ram among other things

[cunning glade]

also forgot i only hooked up like 5k of the 14k limestone i need

[past dune]

i dont think you can make that many... can you? because of the dark matter residue cost...

unless you spend all your sam ore for dark matter residue... maybe.. but that means 0 ficsonium rods, and 0 alien power matrices

[ornate saffron]

#satisfactory message

[abstract heron]

ofc u can use mods 😛

[past dune]

oh... i meant in vanilla mode..

my bad

[normal orbit]

tbf, you dont need 7tw in vanilla. the 1.8tw is enough for pretty much everything. so you can use the sloops to double reanimated sam, as well as ficsite step, which leaves plenty of sam to make some residue

[past dune]

yeah... i bet ill never use that much power... but the goal of my map.. is to 100% max out every single Watt possible..

last step is to take all the sulfur left and coal left.. and make compacted coal.. and max power there..

i got all the oil, geothermal, more than half the coal, all uranium, all plutonium, all ficsonium + all alien power matrices

[cunning glade]

tools gets silly when u try and maximize #screenshots message

[normal orbit]

tools prob thinking turning all oil into rubber using the basic rubber recipe is so outlandish it wont allow it :p

[cunning glade]

it turns it all into rubber and then some into plastic it seems

[cunning glade]

also no this is for 134.4 pasta a min

[normal orbit]

may i introduce to you the recycled recipes

[past dune]

i do only rubber personally..

[cunning glade]

it was using 12600 oil before

if i wanted too do this i would need spare oil for rocket fuel cuz it takes 500gw

[empty spoke]

what everything is included in "phase 4 items"?

[dense violet]

depends what recipes you use

there's many alts in the game

[ornate saffron]

Are you asking how many new parts there is in phase 4?

[empty spoke]

no i meant the actual new parts of phase 4

[dense violet]

!wikisearch phases

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=phases

[dense violet]

praise the wiki, love the wiki

[ornate saffron]

Thats a question for the wiki. Most of use do not have parts in a phase memorized.

I think i have it all laid out in a spreadsheet. But its just a copy and paste from the wiki.

[unkempt blade]

I'm going to act confident and say there are no new alt recipes after T6

[ornate saffron]

That ||alien power matirx|| alt was to powerful

[cunning glade]

do u even have blenders then?

[unkempt blade]

I do because I'm built different

[cunning glade]

i thought they were tier 7 and 8

[ornate saffron]

He is being a funny guy

[cunning glade]

i miss how easy hooking up new resources is in factorio

[empty spoke]

if i say i wanna produce 10/min of every phase 4 item, would that also include the space elevator items?

[ornate saffron]

Is it easier then running a belt?

[ornate saffron]

Its doable. Ive done it. Its just.... alot

[cunning glade]

well i need 14k limestone and too use trains

in factorio that would take like 5 maybe 10 mins

even with a bp for the train stations still takes a min

[ornate saffron]

Ah. But in satisfactory you are not worrying about aliens attack your factory or the nodes running out

Chill sandbox game

[cunning glade]

im aware i just miss how simple it is

and quick

[ornate saffron]

I still have yet to play.
I dont think I will tbh.

[cunning glade]

i think thats why its so much more addicting

because things dont take forever its easy too do one thing and then move on too the next or find something else u need too work on

[cunning glade]

missing out

[ornate saffron]

I play automation games to chill. I dont like worrying about aliens

[cunning glade]

factorio has made me apricate satisfactory so much more but i also love factroio

[cunning glade]

they really arent a bother the game is still very chill

[ornate saffron]

I understand factorio. Ive watched friends play it for hours.

[unkempt blade]

I like a lot about factorio but didn't like constant forced expansion from finite resource spots

[next ivy]

at least you can expand infinetly

not like this game, where youre heavily limited

[unkempt blade]

I would have liked a different source of pressure more than having stuff run out on me once I got a good outpost built

[cunning glade]

buff node density so they last longer

[next ivy]

just bring in new ore with trains

[unkempt blade]

yeah I did like 3x or something I think. I liked higher alien diff + less resource pressure

[cunning glade]

u get trains so early in that game its a non issue

[unkempt blade]

yes I finished the game, I'm aware how it works 😉

[ornate saffron]

Which is why factorio has those massive "blueprint" options. And we dont in satisfactory.

You spend all this time making a outpost you can essentially copy and paste it when your nodes run dry

[unkempt blade]

I liked making my own BPs (same for like DSP BPs) but using them for everything just felt very boring and cookie cutter

[next ivy]

why even make blueprints then

[ornate saffron]

I like bp's in satisfactory. But I make them unique for every save.

[unkempt blade]

I think I mind less in satis because I can actually do artistic stuff for the rest of the factory. It's more about how I want to arrange space for the other part of the build than it is the entire build like in factorio

[cunning glade]

well with this station hooked up too the train grid one more too go and theres no more limestone in the desert not sure where im getting the last stuff yet

[unkempt blade]

I love you but factorio can stand on its own without the glazing. A little critical discussion isn't threatening

[next ivy]

thats gay

[unkempt blade]

thanks

[acoustic kiln]

can someone help me with my railroad i wanna kms

[next ivy]

step 1: lie on the tracks

[normal orbit]

post your problem/question in #1038092680493801533 pictures help a lot when troubleshooting

[next ivy]

step 2: wait for train

[ornate saffron]

Im at the end of phase 3 and I have 4 BPs.

Just to reduce the the time for placing the same pillar 100 times for example. I look at BPs as custom assets.

[empty spoke]

if phase 4 10/min is enough, how much is of phase 3 and phase 2 enough to get smoothly through phase 5, NOT PHASE 4! I'd look it up myself but ngl i dont wanna get spoilered lmao

[cunning glade]

yes we just need more info:) also trains arent that bad

[acoustic kiln]

i am using a bi directional train

[ornate saffron]

Build for use and you have no worries.

The only way to answer that is to be spoiler heavy and force others to do the math.

[acoustic kiln]

and idk how to make a station with 4 freight

[ornate saffron]

Go to #1038092680493801533 and make a post with details

[ornate saffron]

We love to help bit this is a poor forum as we are generally chatting here

[cunning glade]

tho now that i think i worry about setting up my trains

[acoustic kiln]

oka

[cunning glade]

cuz i need like all the ore the miners are actually filling it with hopefully the buffer solves that

[ornate saffron]

Im trying to be better at trains but its hard lol

[ornate saffron]

They usually do. I put a buffer on each end. And let them fill. Over time on the output side if it is not keeping up i add another train

[vocal wolf]

is there amod that makes everything edible

[unkempt blade]

Same, I do enjoy the "can I fit the whole production chain for X into a this-sized cube" minigame though 😆

[cunning glade]

yeah its just im loading 4140 limestone a min and i actually want all of that from this one station i like double buffering output tbh

prolly overkill but oh well

[ornate saffron]

Overkill is better then underkill.

You dont want that @mortal ginkgo coming at you with a sledgehammer

[cunning glade]

also the fact im loading 12300 bauxite and i need all of that too work

think thats the right amount

[unkempt blade]

yeah once you have extra power adding another train is pretty low cost as long as you're building intersections well so the extra traffic doesn't jam them up

[cunning glade]

this is another worry traffic

my thought is in high traffic spots i make it 4 lanes

as one factory will have 36k coal going too it

[ornate saffron]

Lots of good solutions out there. This community loves to share them. But wait for the problem to come up. You have likely absorbed the knowledge already.

[unkempt blade]

where this might be more challenging than you're thinking is a train is always going to try to take the shortest-distance route not one that's most-clear or whatever

[normal orbit]

doesnt really work, since trains will always pick shortest route,

[mortal ginkgo]

noth'ng is overkill when it comes to limestone, embrace

[ornate saffron]

The sledgehammer is here

[mortal ginkgo]

yes blz.

[ornate saffron]

I just realized it may have been rude to ping you for a joke. My apologies

[cunning glade]

if a spot is not available cuz of a block it would choose the second track instead of waiting no?

[normal orbit]

it would not

[cunning glade]

do trains not work off common sense

[normal orbit]

it will wait

[mortal ginkgo]

As long as you spread the limestone that is TRUE and ONLY CORRECT belief, all is justified and no I am not biased

[cunning glade]

ill have too see how that one youtuber did it then

[dense violet]

they always take the shortest path

[empty spoke]

just to make sure, my math about that 1 train station with 4 cars can realistically give me a throughput of 4800 ore/min, correct?

[mortal ginkgo]

no they work on power

[unkempt blade]

it'll wait for the block on the shortest path to become open

[mortal ginkgo]

correct

[cunning glade]

if there the same distance cuz they would be?

[mortal ginkgo]

Trains are just cooler belts

[ornate saffron]

They work off the simple signal system. In most cases its a binary decision. Is the way clear or not.

[normal orbit]

i think there is a dynamic pathing mod for trains, but idk what its called. and if you need to turn it off your train network will break down, so use at own risk :p

[unkempt blade]

I'm not really sure if they were exactly the same distance what would happen. Would be a fun experiment 😄

[dense violet]

if you're running bidi trains you can make pseudo bypasses but it's not a real bypass as they will always slip left or right on that section rather than only if there's something in the way

[cunning glade]

yeah i may grab this

idk off too youtube

[dense violet]

it's extremely easy to design your trains to never ever get blocked

there's no dymanic production or consumption so you always know what trains need to go where

[ornate saffron]

Although a simple solution is high throughput trains such as the bauxite trains you plan can have there own system.

[dense violet]

build two lanes for two directions - basically solves all pathing issues

[ornate saffron]

We have lost power three times in 70 minutes here at work

Going home yearly would be bad for my finances but good for my mental state lol

And my factories

[cunning glade]

okay its totalxclipse that does the 2 too 4 lanes for his big smeltery

[ornate saffron]

He does a two lane one direction system twice

Essentially stacked. Raw and ingots on the bottom line other products on the top.

You could do this but doing a more direct route for something like mass quantities of bauxite may be better

Keep in mind streamers do what they do for entertainment not because its the best way.

Smelting all the iron in the dunes in one location with max output is the worst way to do it. As you are shipping more ingots then you would be just by moving the ore.

[cunning glade]

im only looking cuz of the train stuff cuz i wanted too make sure my idea for that would work

worst case i grab the mod that makes trains smart or idk tbh yet

still planning so far ahead

[dense violet]

what are you doing that the trains are getting stuck?

[cunning glade]

easily 100 or more hours out

[little heart]

@sick lion you are in iran rn ?

[cunning glade]

they arent i just fear they could

[ornate saffron]

Nothing yet. Its thought experiments

[cunning glade]

so planning too have ideas of what too do incase that happens

[dense violet]

have stations off to the side, in parralel, 1 train stopping at the station - basically nothing can go wrong

if you have MORE than 1 train stopping at those stations you want a wait lain in front

[sick lion]

Yea stealing kills Like no one else rn

[dense violet]

that's it. That's all the complications there are

[little heart]

leave me a few

[sick lion]

Nah Need to be on the leaderboard

[obsidian zodiac]

alright yall thats enough

[cunning glade]

ah so basically a stacker got it that was my plan

[ornate saffron]

The way I do it is one train one resource.

It has its own dedicated station as well.

Trains com off the main line and enter the facility logistics hub and docks to its station.

Provided two trains carrying the same product doesnt show up at the same time (this has never happened) there is no issues

[cunning glade]

just have a spare train that waits incase

[abstract heron]

who me? 😛

[little heart]

ok maybe next time

[obsidian zodiac]

no leo youre doing great

[cunning glade]

ye thats what im doing

[abstract heron]

i am always great

[little heart]

who is not so great ?

[cunning glade]

making little train stations that grab like 1-5k of the resource thats needed

[sick lion]

Great question

[ornate saffron]

You should be goochi as long as you space out your trains.

If you are running two trains and one is docking while the other is on the furthest part of the track no issues

[little heart]

I'm so different I'm so cool at school nobody can touch me

[cunning glade]

yo if my wifi could stop dropping well im connected too ethernet that would be great

like holy fuck 100$ a month for this bullshit

[obsidian zodiac]

@little heart @sick lion take this between your DMs, this channel is meant for discussing satisfactory

[little heart]

he dont accept my request

[dense violet]

not really a stacker since it's just a lane in front of the one station

[sick lion]

Sorry

[cunning glade]

i always use blocks and leave room

[ornate saffron]

I feel that. I pay a lot for my connection and its horrid.

[cunning glade]

essentially this games version of it since u cant stacker is what i mean

[abstract heron]

Will the engine update come before 1.2 or with 1.2?

[cunning glade]

time too bitch and threaten too switch too get half off

idk English ig

[normal orbit]

engine update is on exp atm

[cunning glade]

next update bring just rain?

[next ivy]

finally, easier water

[cunning glade]

or full storm?

[obsidian zodiac]

AFAIK the engine upgrade in tech exp rn will follow into exp next week

[cunning glade]

i want thunder so bad

[next ivy]

lightning shows you where sloops are left

[abstract heron]

so i am guessing it might be wrong 1.2 and EXP might be in one package

[cunning glade]

i pray good weather sound design

[obsidian zodiac]

thats so cool and probably so hard to implement but im writing this down

[sick lion]

Is there going to be a new phase to the space elevator?

[cunning glade]

i agree

[little heart]

hello my satisfactory friends !

[granite mango]

hey guys, been eyeing satsifactory for a while now and this current sale makes it even more tempting. * I havent done it just yet
I do have some questions regarding the gameplay loop as i couldnt actually find it from the reddit \ youtube videos around.

I see people either talking about phases or just show casing some factories or more likely - ideas that they are working on. I dont see myself that much of a 'creative' type of player so im just wondering hows the gameplay loop like - are there guidances of stuff you need to get done, objectives? or is it a complete sandbox and you should do w.e with no actual main goal?
Sorry if its a bit confusing, triyng to understand if the game is a good fit for me(with limited game time opportunities)

[next ivy]

i always knew i had good ideas

[cunning glade]

is lightning with 1.2 or just rain

[obsidian zodiac]

listen guys, i just work here

i only know everything thats coming in 1.2

and im not telling you

hehe

[normal orbit]

cruel :o

[cunning glade]

dies

[ornate saffron]

at its core its a sandbox game. There is a progression track but when you hit its end its up to you to make to make your own challenges

[abstract heron]

so jason is engine upgrade and 1.2 going to come in pne package or before 1.2 ENgine update

[little heart]

mean

[ornate saffron]

i have 1000+ hours into minecraft and I have never seen the end or the dragon.

this is the same. Its what you make of it

[obsidian zodiac]

yes.

[unkempt blade]

There's still a lot to do just in the automation and exploration loops. Where satisfactory offers something different than other factory games like factorio or dyson sphere program is mostly more creative building options and less overall logistics

[dense violet]

the milestones and phases are ... kinda a tutorial for your own projects after you unlock everything

[spice patio]

Basically means that 1.2 uses the upgraded Unreal Engine.
We just first got experimental with just the upgraded engine, to check for bugs in upgrading that.
And next we get the 1.2 content too as experimental, still using that upgraded engine.
And then at some point we get 1.2 stable, when the experimental version is stable enough.

[dense violet]

you can 'complete the game' with the dirtiest sloppiest factories if you want, it's not a real challenge

[abstract heron]

okay sso i am good if i play then Satisfactory 1.1 until 1.2 comes then to EXP if i do decide to play

[dense violet]

it's how you decide to create things is the challenge

[ornate saffron]

decide? you need over 1000 more hours. keep playing

[normal orbit]

min 20k hours to play on exp :p

[abstract heron]

i wanna to do first 20khr TOTAL before i make a review i am at 18,771 hrs on record

[abstract heron]

@normal orbit

[empty spoke]

are 2.5/min Ficsonium Fuel rods good enough?

[dense violet]

zero is better imo

[granite mango]

ah I see. thank you for all these replies/ my main concern in games like those is that i kinda lose my self and end up putting time for nothing really, its hard for me without a real goal of some sort. I do however like the concept and guess Ill give satisfactory a chance just to knock the what-if question out of the way 😄

any quick guide I could check to get me on tracks?
thanks again 🙂

[ornate saffron]

i know thats why you cannot stop playing. The 20k review is important and could act as a staple for years to come

[ornate saffron]

many on youtube. But i really enjoyed going in blind.

Even if you dont continue after the main portion of the game that is laid out for you. you will likely still get 100 hours plus from the game. Most people take over 300 hours during there first run from start to credits

[tall lantern]

best guide is no guide tbh. The game is very good at teaching you as you go, as long as you pay attention

[abstract heron]

i love this game tbh Satisfactory 🙂

[tall lantern]

arguably the whole game is one long tutorial, and you do get gradually introduced to new mechanics as you go

[dense violet]

honestly just follow the tutorial and poke at things - all the information for machines and recipes are there in the game and if you want more specifics the wiki

[humble osprey]

how do i preven trains from slowing down at path junctions

[dense violet]

play around with how you like to build things and find your style

[ornate saffron]

you dont

[tall lantern]

a) don't use path signals
b) make the incoming block longer

[next ivy]

making the block before the signal longer

[dense violet]

iirc you use block signals instead. My understanding is they slow them down

[normal orbit]

place the blocksignal before like 20-30 foundations away

[tall lantern]

if the block's big enough, the train can reserve the path before it decides "well that signal's still red, I need to slow down to stop nicely for it"

[glacial drum]

What’re you currently making?

[humble osprey]

so the block signal needs to be very far away?

[glacial drum]

Yea tbh the only part that’s like “be free” is t9 and even then.. you’re still learning

[normal orbit]

yea, since path signals are default to red, they will brake when getting close. if the distance is long, then it will reserve path before it slows and will just go at speed

[glacial drum]

Well, not rlly t9. more so phase 5 parts themselves

Even atp you’re using two new machines

[past dune]

since i now finished all nuclear fuel rods, uranium, plutonium and ficsonium and alien power matrices.. next step is to max out my coal power production using the rest of the sulfur available.

[glacial drum]

I meant numbers wise, my bad.

[ornate saffron]

are you already using all the Nitrogen?

[past dune]

im at 7.167 Terrawatts? is that what ur asking?

[glacial drum]

Once I’ve stopped being lazy and finally add the inputs to my 333 mod frame factory I plan to do something with nuclear. Just not sure what yet

[glacial drum]

I’m asking the amount of fuel rods you’re making.

[tall lantern]

corollary to that signalling stuff - you ideally want the exit block following a path-signalled junction to be relatively short. Since path reservation also requires the block after the main path block(s) to be clear

[past dune]

not all.. got around 1800 available stil

[past dune]

At full vanilla

You can make:

50.4 Uranium fuel rods
22.4 Plutonium fuel rods
39.4 Ficsonium fuel rods
50 Alien power matrices

[ornate saffron]

so would it not be better to use the coal and Sulfer for :Nitrorocket fuel for that most power gains ? Maybe i am misunderstanding. I am under the impression you want to get maximum power

[glacial drum]

You have stated that. I am asking what you personally are making.

[normal orbit]

he is making that

[glacial drum]

I’ve heard the swamp is a good area for nuclear power. If I decide to use that I’ll have to tear up my aluminum factory

Ah, I see.

[ornate saffron]

you are using the buaxite in the swamp already i take it?

[glacial drum]

Last I checked I’m using half of it or so. I made it back when I had t5 belts.

[past dune]

oh im making them exact numbers.. i maxed it out.

[vernal walrus]

Upgraded a coal line from mk2 to mk3 and hours later only just realized it was running slow at the inputs still. I had forgot ooonneee little lift entrance....

Just making sure theres no "upgrade this line" feature I'm missing...

[fierce granite]

You want the block to block signal block after the path signals always able to support the longest train you have to guarantee that the train can fully exit the path block

[ornate saffron]

look at the belt while you have a better belt in hand ready to build

[glacial drum]

Not even half, no. I’m using 900 of it/min.

I rlly need to upgrade that. I just haven’t as it supports some very important items. However, those items too need to be remade.

[vernal walrus]

Just got done doing this to make sure all the belts were good, they were. It took me too long to realize it was just a tiny piece of lift I missed heh

[past dune]

you have a point... but.. not sure the big difference tbh... if im using compacted coal to make the fuel... yes gain more power from fuel.. but 0 from the coal... im wondering if it's actually worth it

[ornate saffron]

the uranium node in the swamp is impure. run your numbers you may have enough for what you want

[ornate saffron]

this is often my ban. So i just dont upgrade lol

[ornate saffron]

some food for thought

[cunning glade]

oof i need another 5k limestone after the desert i thought it was less

[glacial drum]

I more than likely will. However, I need to remake some old factories to finally automate stuff properly instead of half assed anyways.

My old aluminum factory makes and drones out just enough for 1 machine of Turbomotors and cooling systems along with the basic casing and sheets themselves

Due for an upgrade for a while now.

I may honestly take all the red forest and put it into a large factory. I may be able to up my battery production too. Could use it for drones.

[cunning glade]

i rec rocket fuel for drones tbh

they might be the same

[glacial drum]

I use rocket fuel to make 162Gw rn