satisfactory

[bleak valley]

Actually a week of afk damn

[spare prism]

You don't need to go AFK

[bleak valley]

You’d have to at least for some length of time

[spare prism]

I could go harddrive seaching or explore my map lol

[bleak valley]

I feel like you can clear the entire map and then some in 160 hours lol

16 hours is more reasonable

[spare prism]

#screenshots message

[pallid umbra]

lol

[spare prism]

collect power slugs

[bleak valley]

True

[spare prism]

heres so many in the game and some you have to buildto reach it

[pallid umbra]

if only i didnt crash everytime i tried to come in your game lol

[spare prism]

i told you ask for help to see why its crashing

[pallid umbra]

yeah yeah

[loud anvil]

Hey, is anyone else currently having problems connecting to a server?

[jagged nymph]

nope

im not

i mean im not trying to but that also means im not having issues with it

[loud anvil]

I keep getting the error: “Failed to connect to the server API.”

[bleak valley]

I’m not even on the game I’m just here

[near mural]

whats yalls favorite biomes

i havnt built in them yet but i lovee northern forest and dune desert they look so cool

[jagged nymph]

facorite starter or favorite overall

[pallid umbra]

i'd have to say Titan Forest

[spare prism]

Bruh people are “?” my screenshot post lol

I'm getting notifications

[near mural]

i wanna send a ton of trains through the titan forest connected to the trees

[pallid umbra]

XDDD

[near mural]

and bridges lots of bridges

[spare prism]

lol

[cunning glade]

Northern Forest it's so peak

[near mural]

either or

[cunning glade]

The 60 reinforced plates right off the bat so tasty

[jagged nymph]

favorite starter is rocky and favorite for building megafactories is dune desert

but favorite for looks is northern forrest

[near mural]

rocky desert seems like a fun place to start

[cunning glade]

I think dune dessert is peak for leaving it for last

As I'll be taking all of the copper limestone and coal from it

[near mural]

in a later file i think a huge planned megabase from phase 1-5 in dune desert would be really cool

[ornate frost]

is it possible to auto connect power lines in blueprints? (like streetlights on a road)?

[cinder wing]

guys what does nitrogen gas is used to??

[cunning glade]

Late game stuff

[cinder wing]

???

[cunning glade]

Mainly rocket fuel and a few other components like fused modular frames I think turbo motors

[humble osprey]

trains are very cool

[cinder wing]

ohhh ty

[cunning glade]

Prolly some others too but unsure off the top of my head

[humble osprey]

the cool-ness of trains is directly related to how fast they go and how loud they are

[cinder wing]

cuz i seen it a lot of time and i wasnt sure if it was helpful

[humble osprey]

make trains faster and louder

i rest my case

[cunning glade]

It's very helpful

[cunning glade]

There's a mod that lets u make them go 800km/h

[cinder wing]

but like i dont think its helpfi+ul in phase 3

[cunning glade]

Along with a mod too add a signal that makes the train honk

[humble osprey]

pls show me 😭

[humble osprey]

omg yes pls

[cunning glade]

https://ficsit.app/mod/SpeedyTrainsRedux

[cunning glade]

https://ficsit.app/mod/HonkBack can't find one sec did find this tho

[humble osprey]

ive never gotten a mod before, how does this work? is this like reversible? like if i dont like it i can remove the mod without curropting everything (like minecraft) right?

[oak stirrup]

Guys I'm trying to build a blueprint but for some reason (only inside) the blueprint designer, the direction of my vertical belts won't change

Is it a bug or am i doing something wrong

[gloomy tusk]

like you cant rotate them in the blueprint?

[normal orbit]

Are you snapping them to something?

[cunning glade]

Okay so basically u install the mod manager and ur good no it shouldn't cause issue if u delete a mod depending on the mod

There's a mod that lets u make belts as long as u want and it's one belt

But if u remove that it breaks ur game

[oak stirrup]

Can rotate, the input/output directions won't change, i press the button, the text changes from default <> reversed but the direction doesn't change

[cunning glade]

Or save I should say

[oak stirrup]

Oh yeah that might be it, it's getting snapped onto a splitter

Thanks

[gloomy tusk]

you havbe to snap it to the other splitter outputs if you want different direction or the input

[normal orbit]

Well yes then. It's not gonna allow you to put s belt against direction of the connected item

[cunning glade]

90% of the time removing mods won't cause issue but it will remove that item so if it's a modded train station for example you'd have too replace it with a normal one after

[gloomy tusk]

output one direction input is another you cand have an output belt on to go into an output

how do i get the goilden mug

[normal orbit]

Finish phase 5

Then buy it in awesome shop

Or buy two and maybe do something with the spare

[marsh ice]

Wait what are the requirements to be able to smoothly zoop blueprints

When I try it’s always so janky

[near mural]

you can zoop bps?

[cunning glade]

How many coupons?

[reef basin]

not sure if BPs can be zooped in vanilla 🤔

[spare prism]

Would be cool to do but I don't see that option so I brought a duplicate into my world so can throw one in ever machine I got now my only limitation is power 😂

[cunning glade]

Blueprints not too my knowledge

[neat yarrow]

just unlocked phase 3, im so overwhelmed idk where to start..

[bleak valley]

Slowly

Pick something (I usually do hub tiers) and figure it out one step at a time :D

[humble osprey]

unlock coal power

then work on setting coal power

this will carry you till you can set up petroleum plants

[brazen pecan]

hey how do truck sations work?

[humble osprey]

they dont

[ornate frost]

Basically pickup/dropoff points for vehicles (tractors/trucks/factory carts?)

grab item at station --> drop off at station
you gotta drive the vehicle's route manually first, then you can set it to autopilot

[brazen pecan]

nvm found it out

[wide sonnet]

you don't even need to do a good job on the route, it'll just zoop itself there eventually

[brazen pecan]

wrong input source needed

[glad drum]

How utterly CRUEL is it that you can clip the basic shelf into the HUB but not the storage containers?!?!

I was so excited to put my containers inside my little home

[weak bloom]

how often along a track do I usually want block signals?

[wise junco]

i typically do every 3-4 train lengths

[bleak valley]

I’ve never put one down

All of my trains are isolated though

[humble osprey]

i use blueprints so its built in

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[storm scroll]

Hiiiii!!!!! Would anyone be able to help me with a question I have got ??

[wise junco]

shoot your shot

[storm scroll]

Just done my first hard drive

[near mural]

yah

[storm scroll]

And I got the choice of an altertnate option of reinforced plates 6 extra inventory slots or to rescan the hard drive any suggestions

[fierce granite]

there is enough hard drives to get everything, so choose what you think you want now

[storm scroll]

Very new to the game so no idea what would be me best choose

[glad drum]

6 inventory slots

[wise junco]

you won't love this answer

it's all useful at some point. pick what's better for you now. eventually you'll get it all

[south sinew]

I'd take the inventory slots but don't stress too much about it

[near mural]

theres enough harddrives to get every recipe youll find more take what you want now

i will say tho stitched reinforced plates is very nice

[storm scroll]

😂 ok thanks for the help everyone I wasn’t expecting so many responses haha

[glad drum]

More inventory slots = more space to hold stuff = more stuff you can build without refilling, super helpful especially early and needing to explore

edit: inventory slots are the only one I would immediately take

later on, if both options are mid or bad, you can leave them without making a choice and it eliminates them from the pool of hard drive options

[storm scroll]

Thanks all I just happened to stumble on the fact I can do that which I found crazy so I didn’t know how important it was 😂

[glad drum]

Hope you're enjoying the game man 🙂 Luckily, for most alternates, the only thing you'll miss out on is some time going to find more later haha

Cast screws can be very helpful early, some people consider it the best early recipe. Good luck brother 🙂

[brazen pecan]

how do i make my tracotr go on the path i recorded?

all it' shwoing as a pause symbol

got it working

[storm scroll]

I only just getting smart plates try to start myself off well it’s slow but progress is progress !

[wise junco]

it all adds up

#screenshots message making progress on the HMF 8-)

[reef basin]

suggestion: don't ask random people how to play your game
you can get all the recipes and they are all viable in one way or another

as for the inventory slots, they kinda get pointless later, but some people like it

[glad drum]

dont listen to greeny, definitely ask us our opinion on everything and just randomly select and opinion that seems the most fun

also, try clipping lots of stuff into the ground and mountains - it's like little tunnels for your materials!

[reef basin]

what

you say to not listen to me when my advice is literally the same that you said

"pick one that you like, if you don't pick one at random"

[molten vessel]

Does single-player not have a pause button?

[reef basin]

no, because singleplayer is really just a multiplayer you're playing alone

[normal orbit]

it does not, no

[molten vessel]

Irritating

[reef basin]

(and also there's usually not much reason to pause)

[bleak valley]

I saw that it could be added next update

[glad drum]

yeah but i wanna influence his mind to embrace spaghetti

[molten vessel]

It would psychologically make me feel safer.

😿

[normal orbit]

theres a pause console command, but it has a tendency to break your factories, so use at own risk

[glad drum]

#streams-and-videos message - I don't know how this happened but I made a conveyor go back out then back in idk

[feral jay]

https://ficsit.app/mod/JustPause is what I use, I agree, not having a pause function is stupid

[glad drum]

its the exit button

[molten vessel]

And you could also leave work with a bullet to the brain. Doesn’t make it a good option.

[storm scroll]

Bro the spaghetti I think I just had a heart attack and died

[feral jay]

It's a single player game, there should absolutely be a pause function. In the real world, phones and doorbells ring, kids get in to fights, pots boil over, any number of interruptions could require a quick pause.

[molten vessel]

Also, isn’t making everyone play ‘multiplayer’ more intensive?

[normal orbit]

while i agree with that, css had issues implementing a pause cause it kept breaking factories when used, which is why they never implemented the functionality. You can just put fauna to retaliation or passive and theres zero need to pause

[glad drum]

LOL interesting comparison.

I've never had a reason that I've wanted to pause the game but didn't feel like I could save and exit.

[cunning glade]

It's a factory game why would u need too pause it what

Then ur not making coupons

[feral jay]

You can, yes, but I don't like playing on passive, and it takes too long to activate that if the phone rings

[molten vessel]

Good for you, but people with different neuroses, like me, when things move on without me at hand.

And I’d prefer to be able to get up without closing my session

[cunning glade]

Legit no need like deadlock it makes sense in

[feral jay]

Because there's combat, or because you're running off battery backup, or because you haven't set up a liquid loop properly and it'll back up and fuck things up. I can name any number of things. The point is that there's no good reason to exclude a pause function from a single player game.

[cunning glade]

All of thoose sound like the pioneer isn't doing his job well

And failing ficsit

[molten vessel]

Exactly, let me pause for a moment and stop doing my job temporarily.

[feral jay]

And that may be true, but my point is still valid. There's no good reason to not implement a pause function.

[cunning glade]

But even so u can still fix the issue

[normal orbit]

gave you one

[cunning glade]

There's no good reason too implement a pause feature if u wanna pause go back too main menu?

Takes like 10 seconds too load back in 🤷

[feral jay]

True, unless it causes some kind of issue I'm not aware of, I'll give you that.

[fluid sapphire]

Well it did so

[normal orbit]

god i wish it only took 10 seconds to load

[sick falcon]

why is rocket fuel burn rate so weird

[cunning glade]

Specs?

[feral jay]

Or hell even without a pause, a quicksave could accomplish the same thing realistically

[cunning glade]

Real

[cunning glade]

Good thing that's a thing then

[normal orbit]

i'm aorund 4 million object count :)

[feral jay]

Wait what, it is?

[cunning glade]

That doesn't help me

I mean u press one button maybe 2 in the menu and it saves that's a quick save too me or it does it automatically

[molten vessel]

Uggh. I keep finding pods that need power, but I didn’t bring power line materials…

[cunning glade]

Every how often u set it too

[molten vessel]

Autosave and Quicksave aren’t quite the same

[cunning glade]

I was saying there's auto saving too

[sick falcon]

i always set up a small biomass burner setup

[normal orbit]

satisfactory has autosave which is default on to 5 mins iirc

[fluid sapphire]

Make a blueprint that you can climb into or something if you are so concerned about your safety, as for going over your power capacity, just don't do that?

[sick falcon]

theres only like 2 pods that require enough power to make it annoying

[molten vessel]

How much makes one annoying, in your mind?

[cunning glade]

By the time I find thoose I have a train network so I can just steal from main grid

[cunning glade]

They're like 300mw

[normal orbit]

alien power augmentor makes enough power to open any harddrive box, if you have it unlocked

[fluid sapphire]

I don't usually bother with the pods that need power until I can make APA

[molten vessel]

Oof, that’s a lot from my current standpoint

[brazen pecan]

is there a fetaure that locks a tractor into place where it was originally recorded

[cunning glade]

That's actually good too know ty

Tho low-key if I do another playthrough I kinda want all the alts from the start

[normal orbit]

i think the most power hungry box is 420mw

and augmentor is 550mw

[feral jay]

I use a blueprint for that, quickly plop down four sharded bioburners connected to a pole for a quick 300MW if I need it

[cunning glade]

How does this thing work with sloops

Cuz it has a fucking input

And I wanna use it dammit

[normal orbit]

it costs 10 sloops to build

[fluid sapphire]

It takes alien power matrices

[normal orbit]

then you feed it alien power matrixes

[cunning glade]

Ah

[normal orbit]

to raise the power boost from 10% to 30%

[sick falcon]

the 300+ mw ones

[cunning glade]

Like depending on how many u feed it or

[sick falcon]

i love how you can get so much more than 10% more power by using sloops elsewhere

[normal orbit]

you need 5/min iirc

[cunning glade]

Can they take synthetic power shards?

[normal orbit]

early game sure, late game no :)

[cunning glade]

I assume so

[normal orbit]

no

[glad drum]

Fair enough. Either mod or save+quit are your only options unfortunately.

[cunning glade]

Wait what that's dumb

So u can only feed the power augmenter for so long

[normal orbit]

?

[cunning glade]

Cuz there's limited slugs

[normal orbit]

you can feed it as long as you make the matrixes

[cunning glade]

?

But the matrix's can be made with synthetic power shards right

[glad drum]

ooooh OR if you wanna pause, you can hook up a power switch to your entire grid and flip it whenever you need to leave so all your factories stop

[normal orbit]

ofc

[cunning glade]

Okay that makes more sense

Fuck ass Sam tho

Why'd they limit the sam so much

[glacial drum]

Alternate recipes make the “basic” item. Regardless of the recipe.

[normal orbit]

cuz its a powerful material, and you need to decide how and where to use it

[glacial drum]

it’s not some special item it can beused in any other recipe line

[cunning glade]

Oooooo they give dark matter residue

I need that shit

So much of it

If I can find enough of it I can maybe get rid of my byproducts from nuclear

[glad drum]

Anyone else ever ask their friends if they are DTF? (Down to Factory) to convince them to hop on and play?

[glacial drum]

You get DMR from almost every quantum encoder recipe

[cunning glade]

I will find a way too get nuclear byproduct free

[cunning glade]

Well for my phase 5 parts I make 800 a min but it seems it also uses 800 a min so

And I need 7400 residue a min

[glacial drum]

You could just turn sam straight into it. I find it easier to just incorporate something else that makes it into the factory I’m building

[spiral summit]

bro what the hell

pressure conversion cubes sink for more than plutonium fuel rods

lovely

[glad drum]

you may not be aware but you can actually burn plutonium fuel rods for power

[cunning glade]

Kills tools

[abstract heron]

does anyone know when the stream dev stream will start for tuesday i am so confused with the time change

[cunning glade]

So too make 7400 dark matter residue it has me make 226 superposition oscillators as a byproduct

[abstract heron]

is it 10am or 11am

[cunning glade]

I think I see why recipe wise but fuck off with ur superposition oscillators

[spiral summit]

you may not be aware but it likes producing a lot of something called "waste"

[spare prism]

If I OC my coal plant how much do I have to size down instead of the 8 I believe it is

[cunning glade]

It's looking like I get a choice of 400 power shards a min or 300 superposition oscillators a min for a byproduct

[glad drum]

what no nothing is waste - it just gets added to the giant death cube

[cunning glade]

Yeah but I wanna be able too do more

Also smart man what were u talking about yesterday with slooping the residue or something

Cuz I'm thinking I don't have a choice

Only way too get this much residue is by what looks like this feedback loop or something

[spiral summit]

ill produce plenty of power from 4 uranium rods / min for now so ill only burn plutonium as a last resort

[fierce granite]

you will have to do that math on what you clock stuff to

[cunning glade]

Me who's going for 50 uranium rods and 20 plutonium

[dawn dove]

Im new to the game and this server, I only just got to coal power a week ago and I’ve been playing for months, is that a bad thing or is that normal

[cunning glade]

Everyone plays at a different pace all that matters is ur having fun

[feral jay]

There is no wrong way to play the game, I'm a slow builder myself

[dawn dove]

Oh ok

[feral jay]

The game is specifically designed to be a chill factory game without time contraints

[dawn dove]

Alright

[cunning glade]

Something like that lol

[bleak valley]

I have 100 hours and I don’t have much done lol

Very take it at your own pace

[spiral summit]

youre going too fast

[near mural]

how many hours

[dawn dove]

Wait I only have 47 hours

I think I miscalculated

[molten vessel]

I assume we unlock the ability to scan for pods at some point?

[normal orbit]

think its comes with object scanner

[forest tangle]

I'm trying to make a shorty lift and it's not working... I have conveyers at the input and output, they are facing the correct directions, I'm building a T2 Lift from the bottom up, but It just refuses to snap... I've been at this for over an hour... can saomeone help?

[bleak valley]

Build the object scanner in the equipment workshop

[molten vessel]

I don’t know how to change what it scans for…

[forest tangle]

RMB

[bleak valley]

Left click to bring up the radial menu

Right click to cycle one by one

[molten vessel]

I’m on Steamdeck

[bleak valley]

Look at the controls

Settings should have all of them

[normal orbit]

use corresponding controls

[cunning glade]

Mam upgrade but yes

[molten vessel]

Should’ve tried the attack button before, XD

Mine doesn’t have anything but Mercer, Somer, and the three edible plants?

I do have a MAM

[cunning glade]

Quartz tree

[near mural]

its a far way down quartz tree

[cunning glade]

Iirc it's in there near the bottom

I think left side of the tree

[molten vessel]

I’ll put my focus on that, thanks!

[cunning glade]

Also interactive map will show them too but idk u could classify that as cheating or kinda idk

[feral jay]

It's RT on xbox and R2 on playstation if that helps https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Controls#General_4

[molten vessel]

Not sure how I’d even use Interactive Map on deck

[cunning glade]

Everyone has different morals when it comes too single player games

[cunning glade]

U have a phone I assume?

Or I'd assume it can open Google

[molten vessel]

It being interactive made me assume it would require access to the save file?

[cunning glade]

No

U can upload it so that it won't show ones you've gotten but u don't need too

[molten vessel]

Unlike Valheim map thing that just needs seed, but doesn’t live update

[bleak valley]

It has features to upload your save but it’s not required to use it

The map is a set map every time so things don’t move

[fluid sapphire]

Put down supports exactly 4m apart, sometimes it can also help if you attach a belt to one of them

[reef basin]

you can store it or process it

[bleak valley]

Uploading your save just shows what you’ve collected and where your buildings are

[cunning glade]

U can turn the waste into fuel and then burn it cleanly

For even more power and no byproducts

[feral jay]

I use https://ficsit.app/mod/ConstructionPreferences for that

[cunning glade]

Wait holy peak

[fluid sapphire]

It's not so bad vanilla, I think you can also blueprint them

[cunning glade]

I will be looking into that and maybe using it

[cunning glade]

Got any other qol mods I may have missed

[empty spoke]

why does my train say no power? what fuel does it need? i thought it runs on electricity

[bleak valley]

My second save is gonna have mods for sure

[spiral summit]

ficsonium requires about 2/3 of the power it produces

[bleak valley]

Did you power the station

[feral jay]

Cartograph, Remote Factory, Effeciency Checker, Flashlight Settings, Gardenere's Toolkit, Infinite Nudge, Just Pause, Outline Loot, Power CHecker, Remove Empty Dimensional Stacks are what I have running right now

[fluid sapphire]

You need to connect at least one station into your rail network and plug it in

[normal orbit]

station has a power pole

[spiral summit]

for me i think ill be left with like

2gw of net power

[cunning glade]

Peak ty I see a few I don't have that I'll look into when home

[spiral summit]

thanks but id rather use biofuel

[cunning glade]

What's y'all's fav spots with water for big builds

[feral jay]

I'm always looking for good QoL mods

[cunning glade]

I can't decide where too put my aluminum plant

I kinda wanna do grassy fields

[bleak valley]

Saving this to check out later

[cunning glade]

But that doesn't have 21k water close too my knowledge

[fluid sapphire]

Rocky desert

[cunning glade]

Same

[cunning glade]

That's where home is

[fluid sapphire]

Gold Coast?

[cunning glade]

Near paradise island?

[fluid sapphire]

Well North of the waterfall

The area north and south of all the oil

[feral jay]

They're all vanilla friendly too, so you can still load your save if mods break or if you want someone to join your game for a bit

[cunning glade]

Yeah got my starting PowerPlant there my 1800 time crystals are gonna go there plus computers and motor factory

So quite a few along that coast

[normal orbit]

gold coast is on the west edge of the map, between grassy fields and rocky desert

[cunning glade]

Yeah near paradise island

Frick I hate being indecisive well I gotta go do dishes so I can go home and make this 16400 aluminum

[fluid sapphire]

There's still the northern edge of the map

[near mural]

wish we had a snow area soooooo bad

[dawn dove]

I wanted to join my world in Satisfactory but then i remembered im lazy so im watching YouTube instead…

[normal vale]

No

[empty spoke]

wait, there are only 2 outputs on freight car stations so the max output i can get out of 1 car from the train is 2400/min right?

[normal orbit]

yes but not really

theoretical max would be 2400. practical is a lot less

[empty spoke]

and why is that?

[glacial drum]

The station stalls when loading or unloading

[empty spoke]

cuz im not able to keep up a full freight car i assume?

[glacial drum]

Stalls as in no items can come in or out

[empty spoke]

unrealistic to have a train unloading 24/7 at the station

[normal orbit]

cuz there aint no way you can move trains with unloading fast enough to sustain 2400/min, and then you'll run into issue of output isnt prioritized, so you might get more on one belt vs another

[flat flint]

how much alu ingots you need per min to dont have any issues in endgame?

[normal orbit]

if you want reliability, its 1 belt into industrial storage then 2 belts into the terminal. and opposite on the unload side

[empty spoke]

hmm i would have to calculate that, but if the station can store 10k iron, i will have around 4 minutes before the next train must come in so the next unload starts to keep the 2400/min up

[glacial drum]

It all depends on what you make.

[unkempt blade]

at least 1

[glacial drum]

I make <2000 and have no issues. I also try to eliminate aluminum when possible

[empty spoke]

what exactly is the terminal

the freight platform?

[normal orbit]

where items go in and out

[glacial drum]

Another thing is it’s a lot easier to setup a mass manufacturing plant in one area and transport the bars/items to where they’re used rather than setup a new production line near aluminum deposits each time

[empty spoke]

what actually happens when the freight platform is full and a train tries to unload? will it just wait until theres space again or just keep driving

[unkempt blade]

depends on the settings you use

[empty spoke]

i mean a buffer would most likely solve that i just wanna know if its even needed

[unkempt blade]

wouldn't solve it, might delay it 🙂

[empty spoke]

true.. then a sink lol

[normal orbit]

also do math on it, if you have items which stack to 100. the train car can hold 3200 items, at 2400/min you need a round trip to take 1m 20 sec, and the unload/load time is what, 27s on both ends, so thats 54 seconds of that alloted time

[empty spoke]

the train can only hold 3200 items? i heard it can hold 10k with a 100 stack item?

lemme check that actually

[normal orbit]

32 slots

[empty spoke]

damn i got misinformations

well doesn't change too much

[normal orbit]

500 stacks like concrete is easier, 16k then

[empty spoke]

yea il only transport ores so il always have to work with 3200

[normal orbit]

its a lot easier to reach thruput by doing 600/min cars

[unkempt blade]

high quantity + small stack size is usually the weak point for vehicles but with trains you can at least increase train size and spread it out to multiple freight cars before you start adding more trains

[empty spoke]

yea i think the max i will do is 4 freight cars, don't think any more are beneficial

[glacial drum]

Man I was just debating on changing up my aluminum factory and making it way bigger but I just realized all my cooling units and turbo motors are tied to it

[empty spoke]

firstly i will have to calculate how long my route takes

[glacial drum]

Maybe I should change em all up

[empty spoke]

im doing a circle around the whole map so i assume around 5-7min

[glacial drum]

Or just make it larger and keep sending the same amount after it’s made to the same spots

[empty spoke]

doubt 5-7mins are small enough to keep throughput tbh but lets see

but i can just half the travel time by using 2 trains

[brazen pecan]

my tractor isn't loading whne im trying to records, can anyone help

[glacial drum]

Once I play next I’ll have to check how much aluminum I’m using and where.

[reef basin]

depends on everything xD

[glacial drum]

Hey greeny where’s the most common spot you see for an aluminum mega factory

I’m thinking the swamp could work

[reef basin]

I don't like megafactories tbh

[glacial drum]

Tbh less mega factory more - Mass production of aluminum ingots and then sending them off to smaller factories needing it

[normal orbit]

most of the bauxite is in the red forest

[reef basin]

yeah same

[glacial drum]

Maybe I’ll bring the swamp stuff in to the forest.

All I know is atleast 3 factories will be disrupted by that. Itll be fun to do.

Right now I’m working on my 333 mod frames/min. It’s all mostly setup I just need to finalize the outputs of the frames and make the actual iron ingot setup.

[empty spoke]

#screenshots message could somebody tell me if u think thats enough space for the belts? i have 0 feeling for that

[normal orbit]

belts yes, industrial storage no

well you could angle it i spose

[empty spoke]

industrial storages for buffer i assume?

[normal orbit]

yes

belts will stop when its unloading/loading

a buffer storage fixes that

[empty spoke]

ohh

[unkempt blade]

They also don't need to be right next to the station if you choose to use them. That seems like enough room to me though

[glacial drum]

Why would their proximity matter?

[empty spoke]

il just make a big industrial storage corner somewhere at the train hub, will look dope i think

[normal orbit]

a little, but negligble

unless they like a km away

[unkempt blade]

if you want to use a single ISC and have both outputs connected you might wind up with some extra conveyor but even there it doesn't really matter

[empty spoke]

i think il just start with 1 train station with a full route to test and expand later so i get a better feeling for the space i need

dont wanna build everything up just to realize that i can demolish everything again

[cunning glade]

Which biome exactly?

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message i placed mine below

[unkempt blade]

Yeah it's good to do some smaller experiments before you do anything too huge

A lot of new people come here with some huge idea then get frustrated making it happen 😆

[cunning glade]

Noted

[fluid sapphire]

Idk, haven't built there myself, whatever surrounds the oil

[cunning glade]

I really worry about my trains throughput

[empty spoke]

still thinking if i use the fluid trains tho, i heard alot of mixed opinions about it

[cunning glade]

Ah the tropics I call it

I have a giant 6400 rubber and 3000 plastic factory there kinda dead center of it

[normal orbit]

spire coast is at the north

[cunning glade]

And like that's already pretty laggy

[fluid sapphire]

Time to start shipping water I guess?

[cunning glade]

Tho I'm about 99% sure this horrible preformace is from a mod

[unkempt blade]

I'm a big supporter of using vehicles just because they're fun but the standard logic to minimize effort is normally don't move liquids to solids move solids to liquids

[cunning glade]

I just haven't bisected cuz I'm lazy

[cunning glade]

I mean there's still the dessert

Biome wise I low-key wanna use the grassy fields

[empty spoke]

i still think il go for the packaged variant cuz i heard u can transport alot more that way, and well im building a megafactory so il need every drop i can get

[normal orbit]

using vehicles is a good way to learn them.

[cunning glade]

Issue being 21k water is alot of water too move

[fluid sapphire]

Nothing a large handful of trains can't handle

[cunning glade]

Yeah I have decided I don't wanna train 21k water a min

[normal orbit]

i think i saw some youtuber do nuclear on packaged water by train. should prob be searchable, see what he did

[unkempt blade]

Freight cars hold a decent amount of unpackaged liquid. It's the same idea as ore where you can add some combination of more freight cars or more trains and you'll be fine unless it's a huge amount or the route is really long

[empty spoke]

still wondering if i can build my base big enough to build my nuclear power plant inside of it without being affected

[cunning glade]

Already have like a lot for the 9k quartz I need 14k limestone 1250 oil and 12300 bauxite

I'm actually unsure how I wanna do this cuz it's gonna be a lot of train stations of 4

[unkempt blade]

yeah something like this would be an edge case example, nuclear uses a crazy amount of water compared to like moving a couple oil nodes or something of that scale

[cunning glade]

And then I think I should prolly load balance the output

Too make sure some lanes don't get starved some how

[empty spoke]

do rails need power poles nearby?

[cunning glade]

Rails are power poles

[normal orbit]

no, just need to power one station

[cunning glade]

Essentially

[empty spoke]

gotcha

[unkempt blade]

you connect power cables to the stations

[cunning glade]

Right I'm assuming load balance is right cuz I have a feeling the back containers may not fully empty but idk

[empty spoke]

damn the train hub will become much larger than expected with around 10 stations

[cunning glade]

Well the front ones are

[empty spoke]

i might hit world border before that

[normal orbit]

if you're going mega factory, 10 aint gonna cut it

[cunning glade]

How many trains do u need before the game starts calling it train simulator or some shit

[empty spoke]

fr? i thought 1 stations per resource will be enough

[cunning glade]

Train stations I should say

[normal orbit]

haha, no

[empty spoke]

wait hold up damn

[cunning glade]

I thought it was 50

Maybe it's 100

[empty spoke]

but why does the train station amount matter? isnt just a question of how many car platforms i have?

okay well i mean it makes sense, since i calculated the 10 train stations with the assumption that i get 10k iron per car

if its only 3200 iron, then it rly might not cut it

[cunning glade]

Per train car a min the technical max is 2400

[empty spoke]

that would make 12800 iron ore considering that i only use 4 cars, which rly isnt much

[cunning glade]

Cuz u get 2 belts of 1200

[empty spoke]

yea im talking input

[cunning glade]

Yeah same

Input or output would be the same cuz u can only load or unload so fast

But that's why u buffer

[normal orbit]

no, THEORETICAL, not technical

[cunning glade]

Whatever same thing

Also I mean depends on if u do mods

[empty spoke]

well wait, if 2400 is the actual limit why are we talking that transporting concrete etc can do about 16000, that wouldn't change anything since the actual max is still only 2400

damn things got alot more complicated with the 2400 limit

[normal orbit]

first off, you're not getting 2400 out of a single train car. it will never work

settle on max 1200

[empty spoke]

thats 5k iron per train station, damn

[normal orbit]

secondly, you're gonna want more than 1200 of some ores, a lot more

[empty spoke]

im cooked

[cunning glade]

I have a tool for this

[azure dove]

New leaks?

[empty spoke]

4800 iron is barely enough for 2-3 factories this will never work out lmao

[cunning glade]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/6fezikbafu

Not that I understand it that much but neat tool

[bleak valley]

Desmos lmao

[cunning glade]

I need too edit that too work for me

[sacred sinew]

oh hells to the yes. This power is the bomb. I've brought up 3 of 6 fuel plant pods. Each nitro turbo fuel tower produces 150 turbo fuel/sec, enough to run a batch of 16 fuel generators clocked @ 228%. I jumped from 45k MW generation to 78k MW power being produced.... and I've still got 3 more fuel generator batches to bring up.

[cunning glade]

Cuz I have faster trains and double sized freight wagons

MK2 train mod thats what it's called

[empty spoke]

how much iron would i approx need to be able to produce every phase 4 item on a 10/min?

[cunning glade]

I have another tool for this

[reef basin]

depends a lot on recipes

if you really want to do it this way, open a planner and check it in there

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[cunning glade]

Best tool ever

[empty spoke]

yea i think its time to open up excel

the real grind begins

[cunning glade]

Yk in my almost 600 hours never used excel

Calculator tools and interactive map all u need

Well for me atleast

[empty spoke]

i mean yea but doesn't the information dissapear after i close the window?

[cunning glade]

Nope

[unkempt blade]

just don't clear your browser cache/local storage

[cunning glade]

If u open it on mobile u won't have ur stuff from PC tho

And vice versa

[glacial drum]

Depends on the tool you use

[cunning glade]

Well we are talking about the one I just linked him

[glacial drum]

With the one greeny made you can share it with a link

That’s the same one. You can’t edit them both and have that immediately sync to some “cloud” but you can share the link between devices

[empty spoke]

il allocate 5h into planning my whole save file now before doing anything else

cuz damn

wait why are people talkign about phase 4 and phase 5 items? is there even a phase 5?

[unkempt blade]

we don't do "measure twice cut once" around here it's more like "agonize over what you want to do for a week then spend 2 days actually building it"

[cunning glade]

So fucking real

And I hate it argh

[empty spoke]

fr i think i havent build any structure for the last 2 days but was constantly ingame lmao

[cunning glade]

I have the resources ready for aluminum I just need too like plan where I wanna build it and how

But I'm so indecisive so that's not helpful

[empty spoke]

and all started with planning to use trains

but il start the planning tomorrow morning at work, its getting too late

im heading off guys thanks for all the tips and advices

[real shale]

Most of the time I don't even use those, I just do it all in my head and wing it

The proper engineer style, just do it and optimise it later and realise when everything is established that you can yell at your pastself for being so stupid as you engineer a plan to undo the mistakes you made

[real shale]

This is how actual projects in real life work too lmfao

[unkempt blade]

I work with startup software companies and engineers are often lucky to get a short bullet list for the desired outcome 🤣

[cunning glade]

Planning 60 nuclear pasta or making sure I have enough resources left on the map for 112 fics rods are not something I wanna do in my head unfortunately

[real shale]

Lmaooo

[cunning glade]

See but I also could just not make mistakes and then I don't have too deal with it

[real shale]

Mistakes don't necessarily present themselves immediately, they could show themselves as a problem later down the line

That is the perpetual cycle of engineering

Design, Implement, Improve, realise later that your original designs impede your new ones and so forth

[feral jay]

Heh that's why I was pushing for blueprints when the devs didn't want to add them. It allows for much better iteration of designs.

[ebon cobalt]

is it normal that deconstructing a dimensional depot with a full inventory while its uploading something cause a loss of all of its materials and its contents? cus my world appears to be down 1 mercer sphere now..

[feral jay]

Not that I'm aware of, that would seem like a bug to me, unless you've missed it somewhere

You can always edit one back in if you're on PC at least

[twin sinew]

do i eventually get splitters that can do funky split ratios? cause i needed to split five ways earlier today and with 1/2 and 1/3s that is not doable

[feral jay]

No

[twin sinew]

dang

[feral jay]

You can do weird setups with different speed belts and splitters to get almost any ratio you want but that's... janky

[ebon cobalt]

i just deconstructed it and... well everything is gone
and it turns out i didnt have a full inventory

[feral jay]

You sure there's not a dismantle crate somewhere halfway across the map? There's a known bug with dismantle crates where if you have one a long way away, it still uses it

[twin sinew]

I'm fine with doing belt splitting (ive been doing that) but id rather not have to mess with conveyer speeds

[ebon cobalt]

there is one on the map nearby so lemme check that

weirdly everything got put in there
thanks <3

[feral jay]

haha yeah they changed the dismantle crate behaviour a while ago, you used to end up with those damned things everywhere, this is a bit buggy bit still way better than what it was before

[fervent folio]

man I love overclock. I just discovered it around 30 minutes ago and alone its already going to save me 6 hours of waiting on smart plates. I only have to wait an hour and 40 minutes

[fierce valley]

prepare to use overclocking A LOT

[fervent folio]

oh I will because I thought I had to make like 4 Assemblers to get that type of power now i only need 1

[fierce valley]

im currently automating tech for tiers 7 and 8 and overclocking is indeed required for some of these machines, mostly to save space

[feral jay]

I'm currently rebuilding constructor/smelter/assembler blueprints for mark 3 blueprints

It's time consuming now but saves so much time later

[jagged nymph]

underclocking is also very useful

[fervent folio]

yea because some of the stuff i made before could not even run at full power it was at like 60% effeicenty but now they can all be at 100% if i do it right

[fierce valley]

I literally just unlocked partical accels and im terrified of completeing phase 4 💔

[jagged nymph]

the quantum encoder is so sick

[fierce valley]

I haven't been beyond phase 3 during my time playing, so all im doing currently is all new ground for me

[jagged nymph]

i havnt completed phase 4 before but im planning this entire save out so i should be on track to finish phase 5

[fierce valley]

i think my favorite thing i've built so far is my factory for fused modular frames

i built buildings ontop of the cliffs outside of the first area spawn

[jagged nymph]

fusedmodularframesareprettysick

[fierce valley]

it was fun to build automate and plan everything so i agree with you !!

the one problem was making everything look "natural" or at least have proper support

[jagged nymph]

yeah i dont do that

[real shale]

You are pretty sick

[jagged nymph]

i make cubes

[fierce valley]

we love the spread of positivity

[fierce valley]

also, based and fair lmao

on my next playthu im def gonna actually plan things out, i've kinda just been eye balling it and making it up as i go

[jagged nymph]

concrete slab, place machines, run out of space, make new floor, encase with walls

[mossy sigil]

Hello, I'm brand new to the game

[fierce valley]

✨ Verticality ✨

[jagged nymph]

hi, what tier?

[fierce valley]

Welcome !!

[mossy sigil]

I'm at a level 5 base

[real shale]

Hello brand new to the game, I am nerdmojer

[jagged nymph]

what ?

[mossy sigil]

I'm an hour in

[jagged nymph]

idk wym level 5

[fierce valley]

oh do you mean phase 5 on the onboarding?

[jagged nymph]

ohhhhh

[mossy sigil]

Yeah

[jagged nymph]

i see'

[fierce valley]

save your slugs

that's my first tip

[lavish flame]

is it worth keeping my coal plant after making a good fuel plant? or would it be better to use the coal for other applications

[jagged nymph]

dont tear it down until you need the coal. If you need the coal you can use that

[fierce valley]

^^^

[lavish flame]

that makes sense, thanks!

[tall lantern]

there's a lot of coal on the map

[jagged nymph]

but if you dont need to tear it down theres no reason to

[fierce valley]

also it is extra power, can't complain about that

well that's 500 alumia sheets automated

time to do another 500 ✨

[jagged nymph]

imma do 780 so it can fit on exactly one belt

[fierce valley]

im mainly doing it 500 on 2 belts since i don't have the 1200 belts yet

idk when you unlock them but i ASSUME it's within phase 4

[jagged nymph]

well everything is in phase 4

completing phase 5 doesnt unlock anything new, it just finishes the game

[tall lantern]

phase five is tier 9, you unlock plenty. it's finishing phase 5 that finishes the game

[fierce valley]

and that's the challenge !

[spare prism]

does Satisfactory tools allow OC machines

[tall lantern]

tools doesn't care how you clock your machines, it just tells you the total % you need

[jagged nymph]

yeah but hes referring to phase 4 as the phase where mk6 belts are unlocked. Which would make phase 5 finishing the game

[spare prism]

is there a website that allows you to add OC to the equation

[jagged nymph]

thats not how it works

[tall lantern]

which is incorrect, mk6 belts are unlocked in T9 in phase 5

[spare prism]

?

[jagged nymph]

if it says 5.6 machines that means you need 560 percent total, which could be 2 machines at 250 percent and one at 60, or 5 machines at 100 and one at 60, or 10 machines at 50 and 2 at 30, any combination

it doesnt tell you how many machines you need

[tall lantern]

560 at 1%, also valid

[jagged nymph]

that is true

but it wouldnt be possible to put oc into the equation, because thats not how the tool works

[tall lantern]

but yep you beat me to it, that's exactly how Tools works, it does not care in the slightest how you plan to clock your machines

which is also useful for splitting them up into smaller groups

[spare prism]

It does tell me I need 5, 4 at 100% but 1 at 38.462 but I wanna OC all my machines. So if I were to do that then what am I left with I just wanted to add overclock to the tool

[gusty junco]

How do you connect machines to each other in satisfactory modeler?

[tall lantern]

so it's telling you you need 438.462% of clock speed

[fierce valley]

you can click and drag on the inputs and outputs to create a line

[cunning glade]

Yes it does?

[fervent folio]

Guys im in a delema i found a hard drive and the recipes in it are 10 iron plates and 20 copper wire for 3 stiched iron plate 5.6 per minute or cast screws 5 iron ingots for 20 screws i was thinking screws what do you guys thnk

[jagged nymph]

no it means you need 438.462 percent total, so you could do one at 250, one at 150, and one at 38.452 or even one at 250 and one at 188.452

[fierce valley]

then you drag it over to the next machine

[gusty junco]

Ok thx

[tall lantern]

take the one you'd use, and if you really want both, go get some more drives

[spare prism]

Ummm 🤔

[fervent folio]

yea i think would choose the bolts since i dont have to make iron rods anymore

[gusty junco]

Seems so simple idk how I didn’t figure it out 🤦‍♂️😂

[fierce valley]

lmao xd

[jagged nymph]

take whichever you will use, becuase there are enough hard drives fro every alternate recipe

[fervent folio]

thanks good to know

[spare prism]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=OGmwCgiM2eDu775SqbDU

Im gunna go make this now

[peak wasp]

Is there like a guide that gives insight(?) on how to approach higher order parts but like without giving most optimal things? I just got blueprint mk1 and really clueless about mass producing these new parts.

[jagged nymph]

put the parts to make them in the machine, the parts come out of the machine. Send those to the machiens that need them

[peak wasp]

thanks!

[fierce valley]

oh really?

[jagged nymph]

yeah

more than enough actually

[fierce valley]

i didn't know that, that's cool

[unkempt blade]

yeah I've taken cast screws 3 different times now because it's the best recipe and I already have all the others

[jagged nymph]

i hate cast screws tbh

[reef basin]

"optimal" is very subjective. Just build what makes sense to you

[unkempt blade]

that's ok I still love you even if your recipe judgement isn't that great

[fierce valley]

big truth nuke

[jagged nymph]

just turn rods into screws i dont see the issue

you need rods anyway, youre gonna be makin em

[fierce valley]

plus there is that stiched iron plate alternative

which just completely removes the need for screws

[unkempt blade]

I still love you. You're allowed be wrong

[fierce valley]

typed with the upmost rage

[reef basin]

allowed? sure
is wrong? not at all

[unkempt blade]

Don't worry I love you too and I appreciate how much you care about me

[fierce valley]

now time to plan like 20 assemblers for heat sinks

28 actually xd

[unkempt blade]

stitched plates are ok too but bolted plates are the best one

[fierce valley]

useful for big projects i say, where you need loads of plates

[unkempt blade]

totally, like for heavy flexible frames

[grim carbon]

How do I zoop?

I’m trying to build with concrete foundations

I select the zoop mode

[unkempt blade]

choose zoop mode and drag as you build

[mortal ginkgo]

now that I check it, Stitched asks for so much iron wire if copper is wanted to be saved, and steel screws is agood alternative to also save space and shards early game

I mean, main defense of it all is, verticality is free.

so iron wire still kinda wins over if someone does not get steel scres alt recipe

[unkempt blade]

I like stitched with iron wire because it keeps stuff simple but much less so with normal wire

[mortal ginkgo]

because it is WAY easier to get iron wire and stitched plates early game

[mortal ginkgo]

that being said I can see the fun of saving space especially with constructor making steel screws right beside assembler

however it increases steel usage so its better to keep that in mind

[smoky trench]

anybody else get fps drops when they look at a bunch of batteries that are charging?

[mortal ginkgo]

not really but batteries got some good graphics themselves as they charge up so maybe thats the reason + not strong enough GPU

[unkempt blade]

yeah I don't really feel pressured by steel in my saves. I don't use coal for much else and once you get some of the recipes that use pipes it gets even lower pressure

[real shale]

Impure Limestone Node

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but its still a journey early game. however late game I can see the appeal of steel screws + bolted plates

[smoky trench]

my gpu is decent but i think the charging particles that 200+ batteries give off might be a bit too much for it

[mortal ginkgo]

Greetings young traveller.

[mortal ginkgo]

could be yeah

[real shale]

#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Not really the place but does anyone know how a mod gets identified in the mod manager loader as broken

[fierce valley]

is there alt accounts named Pure and Normal?

[cunning glade]

As there's a mod causing me too drop too 20fps and its not great but idk what mod could be doing it I need too bisect ik but I'm lazy

[grim carbon]

Is there a way to swap regular foundations with concrete ones without removing the regular ones first?

[cunning glade]

Can't u hot bar it?

[mortal ginkgo]

They are not worthy to mention so I am not even bothering to answer that.

[fierce valley]

do you have customization unlocked/

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother why are we having Helldivers 2 screenshots in Satisfactory

[fierce valley]

respectable

[grim carbon]

No I mean ones I’ve put down already

[real shale]

Because the red forest got obliterated

[mortal ginkgo]

holding CTRL works for doors, maybe works for foundations too?

[real shale]

It's just....red now, no forest

[fierce valley]

there's a tool in the customizer that lets you paint over it with the basic foundations

[grim carbon]

I saw your screenshot

[fierce valley]

you can use that to "paint" the foundations to what you want without dismantling them

[grim carbon]

That works just swell

[fierce valley]

it's not red forset it's just ____

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg here got jumped by green stingers so much that he took it personally that the forest exists

[burnt prawn]

The forest had it coming

[real shale]

That's three biomes I've completely destroyed so far

[burnt prawn]

Gotta catch 'em all

...and by catch I mean level

[real shale]

Southern Forest is just Southern, not a tree or shrub in site, the swamp is just CONCRETE now and the red forest is just......red

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg wants his save to open in 15 minutes kek

[real shale]

I mean, I have a high spec pc so it's Gucci

Besides, save file bloat doesn't bother me either considering my experience with AllTheMods save bloat

[ebon cobalt]

i just noticed i have 120 hours and have never got past phase 2..
that changes soon tho :3 (probably in like a week or two)

[fierce valley]

put a big ol walmart right in the middle of the crater

[fierce valley]

You got this !!

[grim carbon]

That’s going to save so much time!!!

[ebon cobalt]

1,000 versatile framework boutta make me cry xD

im upgrading the power grid rn (water is being annoying)

[bleak valley]

I did it with one machine making frameworks you got this

I recommend making more than that though it took ages

[fierce valley]

it only gets WORSE but you got this 🫰

i have plans to remake the factory i have specifcally for smart plates automated wiring and versatiles

im beyond glad i have a world wide rail network, nice to know i get anything anywhere and gather resources anywhere

i need to redo like, ALL of my factories once i get mk 3 miners finally automated

[covert vault]

train experts, whats wrong here? (im just testing stuff so i can understand how trains work)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480365408136728606/1480365440885854219/image.png?ex=69af6940&is=69ae17c0&hm=404ec108c39dc5265cd3e20f103c0a0ee142b3ab534e853a9e7db38fb6a01b68&

[fierce valley]

mind sending that to #screenshots

[real shale]

Your block signals are the wrong way around

[covert vault]

#screenshots message

[real shale]

You need the lights facing the same direction at the path signal

[covert vault]

whats the correct way here?

[real shale]

Basically the same orientation you have your path signal

[covert vault]

ahhh i see, thanks a lot dude

[real shale]

Np

[fierce valley]

i didn't even realize they were facing the wrong way

i feel silly

[covert vault]

i've been messing around with trains for the past hour to try to understand how thier logic works cuz i think i'll need to start using them soon

[jagged nymph]

i mean you never need to use them

but theyre very useful if you figure them out

[fierce valley]

however they ARE cool to use

[real shale]

Admittedly here, you don't need path signals

You can just block the junctions

[stone python]

i was about to say

just block it all

[fierce valley]

i never understood path signals, how do they work again?

[real shale]

T junctions won't ever have a scenario where you can have multiple paths free

Unless it's dual rail

[covert vault]

i'll try to do so

[real shale]

Reserve paths for a train to enter a junction even if another train is within the same block

[fierce valley]

oh

[real shale]

Basically means you can have multiple trains in the same junction and not have them collide

[fierce valley]

yeah i think i'll stick to just blocking

it's worked so far

[mortal ginkgo]

basically tells train to not go into a segment if it cant get out of it. useful for junctions etc so that train doesnt hold space in junction if it cant go out of it, preventing it from blocking the entire place

[covert vault]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480365408136728606/1480368236309778643/image.png?ex=69af6bdb&is=69ae1a5b&hm=2977a5a05b56cf1a4c66ad6171894af22665b7c862bce4cbe01ff79cb8638e88&

something like this?

[stone python]

perfect

[real shale]

Yup

[covert vault]

alright

[stone python]

so good in fact, it will attract the attention of beans nearby and make them stand on that track

[fierce valley]

i actually haven't seen a bean in ages... the only one i've seen is out near a road i have that constantly gets run over 💔

[real shale]

Me thinking about the estimated number of hours it'll take for me to complete the game, I'm thinking 1500

[fierce valley]

i have like at least 870 in total

[jagged nymph]

imma guess this save will be about 400-500 hours considering i dont decorate anyhting

[real shale]

I don't decorate anything either, I am just obsessed with doing everything except my current plans

[fierce valley]

i build the factory i need, and if i feel like it, i add details

[real shale]

actually that's a lie I do decorate, but only when I get distracted from doing what I was doing and decide "this needs to look prettier"

I don't know how I'm going to decorate my blue crater megafactory, but I'll figure it out

I kinda like the open air nature of my factories

[fierce valley]

the infinite cycle

[burnt prawn]

It's so weird seeing rail signal heads with green below red

[stone python]

i get in trouble whenever i apply this philosophy to my irl clothing choices.

[burnt prawn]

You put factories in your clothing?

[fierce valley]

just fancy new railway codes in the world

[fierce valley]

lol xd

[wispy tundra]

OK, so, I'm supper happy right now. I'm 350 hours into my first playthrough, and I just carried out my design for Platform Alpha ❤️
#design-and-architecture message

Basically this is a macrostructure that produces all base items and feed them into the dimensional depot, and also build Phase 2 elevator parts. Later it will be expanded to produce the next phases elevator parts parts too. It's a bunch of small factories, and a fleet of tractors bring items from one factory to another. I idealized it like a month ago, and didn't know if it'd be viable. AAAaand I'm glad to say it iS :DDDD

Now there will be other "platforms" which will tackle other goals, and they'll be connected by roads and (I assume) trains.

[burnt prawn]

Gah, on the one hand, building rail with blueprints is super nice, but on the other hand, I want to at least nominally respect the topography and not just build viaducts for everything

[spiral summit]

messing around with launch pads and im just hoping i find some crazy speed glitch so i can propel a truck at mach fuck

[fierce valley]

firstly i am BEYOND jealous of that creativity that is sick but it also reminds me of those shopping districts xd SUPER WELL DONE THOUGH 🔥

[proven snow]

Find someway to clip 100 jump pads into each other or something, would be mad

[burnt prawn]

I like that aesthetic!

[fierce valley]

big true

[wispy tundra]

Thanks! It's also super cool to just watch all the trucks going around.

Oh yeah, I also have a refueling station being fed compacted coal from a small factory located elsewhere, and all the tractor routes stop by that station. That way they can run indefinately.

[wispy tundra]

Thanks! It means a lot from the other more seasoned players 😄

[burnt prawn]

Full disclosure: I have played for a total of two weeks XD

[fierce valley]

THAT'S what i love about vehicles, they might not be efficient sometimes but the go vroom and that is cool

[fierce valley]

would love to see your progress!! i love new playthrus

[native tapir]

I love vehicles but I hate how two holograms is enough to crash the game lol.

[spiral summit]

woah

[burnt prawn]

Trucks and tractors seem really nice for shuffling stuff over to train stations when the nearest one is pretty close and I can't be bothered to fit another one in

[spiral summit]

occasionally when between two launch pads you might get flinged real fast

[wispy tundra]

I 100% love vehicles and I'll prob use them a LOT, following this "platform" idea

[spiral summit]

@native tapir have you discovered any tech with launchpads

[native tapir]

Yes. Lots. lol

[burnt prawn]

How much of it is reliable :P

[native tapir]

They traumatized me when we did our factory cart tower race.

[native tapir]

like 69% is reliable

[burnt prawn]

Nice

[fierce valley]

logistical network

[native tapir]

A fun one we learned during our tower race @spiral summit

is this:

If you nudge a bounce pad exactly two nudges down into a foundation, you get a low-power jumpad. It does baby jumps

[burnt prawn]

That... actually sounds really useful

[native tapir]

It is very useful when you're making rap videos in Satisfactory and want to make a vehicle look like it has hyrdaulics.

For the race this year we actually just modded it in since we were modding the explorer to be faster anyway. But for vanilla "bug" builds like I make, it is useful

[spiral summit]

f-f-f-f- actory cart music

[fierce valley]

[spiral summit]

with a lizzard doggo inside of course

[native tapir]

Bounce pads almost ruined our tower race though. We couldn't figure out why some people were getting yeeted out of the tower and some were not even making it to the next level. That's how we (I should really say Novatech) found out about the low power versions

@spiral summit there is one way to get yeeted at mach fuck in a truck. I will demonstrate it with a factory cart on Tuesday or Wednesday of this week when I am back in town and can make a quick video

(it's not that big of a secret - I've already somewhat shared it but not like this)

[hearty estuary]

hi

[fierce valley]

hello!

[spiral summit]

awesome

[hearty estuary]

how are you doing

[burnt prawn]

Does the explorer still permanently delete fruit plants it runs over?

[fierce valley]

i think all vehicles do

[burnt prawn]

Ugh

If only they grew back

[jagged nymph]

anyone got a duck do?

[wise junco]

a what?

[fierce valley]

i got a goose don't

would that work

[jagged nymph]

no you were supposed to say "whats a duck do"

sigh

[wise junco]

sorry let's try it again

[spiral summit]

they shoulda given carts conveyor physics smh

[spare prism]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xaMGrrLtTFeOT0fVzlxJ im really hurting my brain

[jagged nymph]

why is everything on maximize

thats gonna be really nasty with a bunch of wierd decimals

[spare prism]

bc im making do with input

[jagged nymph]

bring in more input

[spare prism]

i have 270 going in

[wise junco]

every number gets weird eventually

[jagged nymph]

literally ever machines on that graph has a nasty decimal point

[spare prism]

i will im OC every machine and putting slooper inside

[wise junco]

the one i'm working on ain't much better

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=CtlIcnHJQgqBTylcdoR8

if you use math equations to do the output numbers/clocking, it's way easier

[spare prism]

my brain hurts tho to many numbers

my brain feel like its gunna have a meltdown

[wise junco]

just build one square at a time

[glad drum]

#screenshots message - I didn't realize that trains are able to make 180 degree turns on a dime, it's really impressive and useful!

[wise junco]

actually lol'd

[glad drum]

It's always good to experiment with new unlocks to see their capabilities 😉

Thankfully a train running into itself won't derail it!

Now I wonder... can a train derail, then RERAIL itself on a new track so we can have daredevil trains?

[drowsy kelp]

No

[glad drum]

so sad

[drowsy kelp]

The train cars unlink when derailing too so you’d have no train to pull with the locomotive even if that worked

[hollow geode]

what are some basic blueprints you guys recommend having?

[jagged nymph]

manifolded input/outputs

[zealous urchin]

so bored

and cant sleep

[jagged nymph]

like 8 constructors with a manifold input and merged output

[hollow geode]

yeah I am working on making some of those

[jagged nymph]

same with assemblers and the rest

[jagged nymph]

thats the main time saver

[feral jay]

I have a bunch of basic "20x Assembler Factory", "40x Constructor Factory" blueprints that make things a lot faster

[hollow geode]

yeah got smelters, constructors, assemblers (many different versions as well)

[zealous urchin]

10 smelters
10 constructors
8 assemblers
4 manufacturers
12 blenders

[hollow geode]

trying to just really optimize stuff now

[feral jay]

My two favorite utilty blueprints are my "Awesomer Sink" that lets me plop down a powered sink compelte with fueled bioburner and container so I can sink stuff when I'm on an adventure, and a 4x sharded bioburner for 300MW of power to open up crash sites

[hollow geode]

that is a creative one

[jagged nymph]

awesomest sink?

awesome sink mk2

[feral jay]

Also a rail bed blueprint for quickly building rails with auto-connect, I've been using that a lot lately

[hollow geode]

I just spent 14 hours building a nuclear reactor facility yesterday and 70% of that was belting and piping the blenders in a compact way (for some reason I gave myself 4x3 blenders with only one foundation between the 4 rows. Inputs and Outputs in a 1 tile took me a moment to get right

[zealous urchin]

damn i dont imagine myself coming back to satisfactory for 14hrs sessions

[feral jay]

Speaking of blueprints, I find it extremely frustrating that I can't attach double sided power poles or conveyor wall holes to the outside walls, or signs to the exterior

I really hope they improve that with 1.2

[hollow geode]

damn I was gonna upload screenshot but it no work in this channel

[feral jay]

#screenshots and link it here

[hollow geode]

ah thanks

[zealous urchin]

and i hope ppl who defend blueprints religiously wont show up rn

[feral jay]

This channel would get flooded with screenshots if they were allowed here

[drowsy kelp]

They probably will anyway

[glad drum]

For nuclear, a blueprint with a bunch of storage containers connecting to the next one so you can smack it down and have waste-storage for a good chunk of time

[hollow geode]

#screenshots message

that was my last screenshot I took and the big change is water pumps were added under where I am

60 of the damn things

[zealous urchin]

water hungie biznes

[hollow geode]

that I made like 3 blueprints to make running pipes tollerable

[zealous urchin]

imagine pipes with legs running

[hollow geode]

I did it to myself though... I overclocked all those nuclear plants so the each take 600/min of water

[feral jay]

lol I also have a "Megastorage" blueprint, as many storage containers as can fit in a blueprint, all belted together, I used a few of those for my ficsmas present stockpile

[hollow geode]

lol

[drowsy kelp]

Nah real factory builders immerse themselves in the spaghetti, become one with it, only then will you learn true factory-building power

[feral jay]

Something like 5000 stacks of storage I think

[hollow geode]

I have done that then I became a man and organized and I can't go back

What do you guys think of the main base??? I still have to move the stuff on the right into it but just built it up and realized I wanted more power before setting it up.
#screenshots message

[drowsy kelp]

But only spaghetti can achieve such unparalleled factory density

Assuming no clipping or anything

[hollow geode]

and the second screenshot was earlier with a box and it was bad to I made it circle. But it shows the side design

[hollow geode]

I try not to clip. But if you look at my main base image you will see circle. That is the one time I knew I had to clip

[sick falcon]

how does satisfactory tools know the max water on the map is 9007199254740991

[hollow geode]

might be the limit of how many water pumps before you reach entity limit?

or your PC combusts spontaneously

one of the two

[drowsy kelp]

I’d guess max OC water extractors stacked as densely as possible across all water sources

[sick falcon]

i think my pc would combust a long time before that

[drowsy kelp]

Nah it’d detonate before the save even loads

[hollow geode]

buy a supercomputer to test this

[sick falcon]

apparently 9007199254740991 is the maximum safe integer in javascript

maybe related

[hollow geode]

then yeah it is that

any above and error

[drowsy kelp]

So funky code

[sand pasture]

hello

[hollow geode]

values above actually just become infinty and you lose exact values

interesting

[feral jay]

It's 2⁵³-1

[lucid copper]

is there a way to curve billboards and other signs on ps5?

[hollow geode]

like the board itself?

[feral jay]

The maximum safe integer that javascript can handle, I doubt it has any relation to the actual water available on the map

[lucid copper]

the light part

or text part

[hollow geode]

the boards don't curve. You can just spin them

[lucid copper]

oh dang

[hollow geode]

you can do the foundation curving and snap them that way

[feral jay]

Building anything not consisting of only right angles is a huge Satisfactory flex actually

[hollow geode]

I made a circle for my main base
#screenshots message

[sand pasture]

hey is there anyway someone can help me out bby hopping on my world and taking a look at it and telling me how to improve? i don't have many hours and im not that creative

[hollow geode]

do you know how to curve foundations?

[feral jay]

That's an awesome base, mine are always very... utilitarian

[hollow geode]

I am going a bit crazy with builds on this world with my friend

[lucid copper]

nah im new to the game

[sick falcon]

does blueprint autoconnect work with pipes and conveyors

[feral jay]

yes

[lucid copper]

well midgame

[hollow geode]

give me a minute and I can set up a thing and drop it in screenshots to make sure it is what you are wanting to do.

[lucid copper]

k

[feral jay]

Yours looks much better than mine #screenshots message

[sand pasture]

can anyone help me?

[jagged nymph]

dontasktoask.com

[sand pasture]

what?

[jagged nymph]

Website

[drowsy kelp]

Slug carousel, 10/10 base

[jagged nymph]

Read it

[feral jay]

It surrounds my golden nut

[drowsy kelp]

Name’s pretty self-explanatory

[jagged nymph]

And the website explains it further

[sand pasture]

i understand that

[drowsy kelp]

Asking if you can ask a question, assuming you’re not asking “where do i ask xy” or something, pretty much just wastes time

[lucid copper]

im finna make a giant city in the dunes area for motors

[jagged nymph]

I would explain it but the website explains it all

[drowsy kelp]

Didn’t they ask already tho

[jagged nymph]

Idk

[sand pasture]

but i was just asking a question i just read what was on the website i just wanted someone to take a look at my factory because i wasnt sure how to improve damn

[jagged nymph]

Ik but then you should say that

[sand pasture]

i did

no one answered me

[drowsy kelp]

#satisfactory message they did

[sand pasture]

where

[jagged nymph]

Well that was earlier so I didnt see it

[drowsy kelp]

I wasn’t linking an answer

[sand pasture]

okay?

[hollow geode]

@lucid copper #screenshots message

[hollow geode]

that is how the current main base looks but we are moving it

[drowsy kelp]

How do you make things off the 45-degree grid

[feral jay]

"May I ask a question?"

"You just did, Data."

"Then may I ask another one, after this one?"

Can't recall the episode but I always loved that line

[hollow geode]

idk how on controller but on keyboard you hold the control button and use mouse wheel. That is the same button as the snap in line button for reference for controller

but you have to do it above a foundation.

so place a foundation under your desired floor height

Great vid on it. I used it as a refreshing somewhat recently, and to see if there were any new ways or anything.
https://youtu.be/cuebs3Irbbs

if you are a person that believes in co clipping then cricles will trigger you

and one note. Use the foundation type you want to be final. It sucks to customize them after cause there are so many that some you can not get to

[drowsy kelp]

Clipping sucks when it’s avoidable and there’s z-fighting

[hollow geode]

concrete foundations are the best for stuff like curving

they still z clip a bit but not that much

especially not anymore. It used to be WAY worse

[empty path]

someone a year ago gave me a website with a real nice calculator or planner, i can't find it anymore, i just returned to the game, about to enter phase 4 so that is gona come handy :c

anyone might know which one it was? .-.

[hollow geode]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

that one?

[empty path]

wasnt that one, was cleaner

[bleak valley]

Satisfactory tools?

[hollow geode]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[empty path]

that one is a bit meh, its what im using atm but i remember the other being better and its not tools either

OH

i thought tools were something else i found earlier

[empty path]

thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[hollow geode]

yeah

I was trying that one out and plugged in Plutonium fuel rods and it said it couldn't generate the thing

idk what I was doing wrong

I just tested with like AI limiters and it worked

idk it is weird

[empty path]

i miss end game items 😄 but its fun being on this early phases again, and im playing on a self hosted server with a friend that loves these stuff, so first time doing multiplayer, been hella fun ngl

[hollow geode]

multiplayer is soooo much nicer nowadays

I ran it back in early access (like update 6 I think) and it was buggy for sure

[empty path]

i was expecting issues, so far the only problem is spitters plasma being funky, other than that game is awesome, feels like single player

[hollow geode]

like the dedicated servers not just standard multiplayer that is

[empty path]

yeah i have a dedicated server machine at my home

[hollow geode]

it reall yis super nice

gives all the people access 24/7, and overall they run really well. (obviously you need a machine that can run it but I have not had any issues with crashing) And the setup of the world and save management is SOOOO MUCH NICER

it used to be all config edits

[empty path]

well good thing this is my first time experiencing it in nowadays times then 😄

[hollow geode]

yeah

and just visual bugs and stuff in game. lifts items would float above the lift was my favorite

[wise junco]

#screenshots message 25 HMF done 8-)

i'll work on the fused modulars tomorrow... easy peasy after getting this all routed nicely

[hollow geode]

nice