satisfactory

[midnight harness]

yes

[spice patio]

No.
The other way around.
You are getting 2 000 000 000 000 byte drive.

Which is what 2TB is.
2 TiB is 2 199 023 255 552 bytes.

[midnight harness]

you actually get almost 2.2 TB

[normal orbit]

well ok i'm wrong then cuz its less than that

[midnight harness]

if you buy a 2TiB drive

[spice patio]

But you cannot buy 2TiB drive.
As all the makers sell in 10-based, not 2-based.

[normal orbit]

is windows reporting TiB as TB then?

[midnight harness]

2 Tebibytes is 2.19902 Terabytes

[spice patio]

Yes.

Microsoft hasn't changed to "not confuse people".

[normal orbit]

i see

[spice patio]

And is using SI prefixes for binary prefixes still.

[midnight harness]

they are both binary, its only that one stops at 1000 and one at 1024

[near mural]

nothern forest seems like itd be the best starting location imo

[reef basin]

which incidentally confuses many people even more

[normal orbit]

i get diffrence between the units. its just I buy 2TB, get 1.81TB, the unit is the same, but the value is diffrent, so i guess its windows telling me little lies

[spice patio]

No.
That is the whole point.
SI-prefixes are multiples of 10 ( 10^X )
Binary prefixes are multiples of 2. ( 2^(X*10) )

[spice patio]

You buy 2TB drive.
Windows shows 1.81TiB, but doesn't show the i, because "cannot change because that would confuse people".

[real shale]

It's a nice spot, but choose wherever, because you'll expand either way

The factory must grow....

[reef basin]

depends what "best" means for you

there's no general "best"

[near mural]

im not starting a save just scouting for factory locations

[real shale]

Depends on what you are trying to make

[glad drum]

#screenshots message - I think the "best" area is the water craters but I just like 'em cause they're pretty... er... were pretty.

[spice patio]

And in not changing, they cause major continued confusion...

[midnight harness]

and so does linux and Unix

[reef basin]

then it depends what you want to make, what recipes are you using, etc.

[spice patio]

Linux has mostly moved.

[real shale]

Some locations are more ideal for certain items than others, but there is nothing stopping you wanting to belt things from across the map to make it work :P

[spice patio]

Some individual legacy utilities haven't.

[midnight harness]

not according to your god wikipedia

[near mural]

yeah i get this
northern forest seems like it has a ton of pure nodes for early resources tons of biomass not that it really matters tho the central location i would imagine expand to where ever needed comfortably and you have close acess to dune desert for a huge open area when needed

[reef basin]

tons of pure nodes make it actually bad starting location, since you're limited by belt and you want to expand anyway

[near mural]

i hadnt thought abt that but that makes nsese

[midnight harness]

its good for mid to late game mostly, as already mentioned

[near mural]

ive forgotten what it was like early game with those horrid mk2 belts

[normal orbit]

i low key dislike computer teminology so much. like resolutions. 2k referring to 1440p

[unborn moss]

I like the northern forest, but you'll have to rebuild the starting factories.

[midnight harness]

yea, you get used to the speed of mk 4 or 5 and forget

[midnight harness]

its the num,ber of pixels

[spice patio]

There is some stuff that has moved to use actual 10-based prefixes and amounts.
Some stuff that has moved to the new binary prefixes and amounts.
And some tiny bit of legacy that is using 10-based prefixes with binary amounts, but those are just some old command line utilities without real maintenance.

[midnight harness]

number*

[normal orbit]

i know it is

[reef basin]

HD, FHD, UHD, QHD... 😄

[near mural]

yeah i love my current factory and am quite attached to it but im in desprate need of a change of scenery from the lame grass plains and northern forest and dune dessert are calling me

[normal orbit]

but its WRONG

[hushed totem]

Oh god yeah, I went back to my starting coal factory, mk2 belts Everywhere and the pipe situation was so bad

[midnight harness]

why is it? its completely consistent

[hushed totem]

I cried a little witnessing my own stupidity with pipes, it was so bad, such a mess in such a small place too

[midnight harness]

happens, mostly on starter coal

[near mural]

i was having such a hard time with screws in my first factory having to use 2 belts because i needed more than 120 it pissed me off sb 😭

[real shale]

I will not tolerate grassy fields slander, grassy fields my beloved

[normal orbit]

its not. 2k referes to the horizontal pixel count. for 4k its 3840 pixel, like ok close enough., 1080p is 1920 pixels, thats a heck of a lot closer to 2k than 1440ps 2560 pixels. 1440p should be like 2.5k and 1080p 2k

[midnight harness]

the worst menace in early game are your limitations

[cunning lily]

Not a bad spot for gratitude for all you've learned, too. Both.

[near mural]

i dont hate it but ive spent the last 40 hours staying in the grassy fields only able to admire the other biomes from afar

also FUCK all these impure iron nodes omg 😭

[real shale]

Impure iron nodes are great

[midnight harness]

depens on what you are making

[hushed totem]

Man, my dumbass tried to split a pure resource node producing 1,200 per minute, with MK5 belts, it uh, didn't split to 600 evenly, I genuinely don't know what I was thinking

[spice patio]

Old standard was to talk about the height, not width...
But then marketers went wild with "4K" and broke that convention.
And then that 1440p was branded as "2K" or like in marketing...

[reef basin]

purity of nodes is practically irrelevant

[midnight harness]

for rods in early game before splitters? heaven

[near mural]

my hmf setup was really fun to make and i wanna make a huge one just for funsies but theres no good locations for that in grass fields i swear 😭

[midnight harness]

yea, that broke it

[hushed totem]

Oh god yeah definitely, I've become alot more organized and more educated with pipes and belts

[ornate saffron]

demo coal lake

[ornate saffron]

there is nitrogen near coal lake too.

[midnight harness]

and 1080 p looks wonderful, so they could have just went with that for 2K res

[real shale]

Well....nearish, it is pretty high up

[near mural]

hmmmm

[spice patio]

Like HDD marketers broke the "SI prefixes with bits and bytes means 1024" convention to make their drive seem larger than it was in 90s and fucked up everything too.

[hushed totem]

Also I ended up putting the entirety of grassy fields into making screws because I was getting pissed off by how many screws I needed, I did end up changing it eventually but Man, I hate screws

[real shale]

I rebuilt my coal lake from a coal power plant into a fused modular frame factory

[spice patio]

And we are still suffering.

[near mural]

i just use alt recipies and havnt used screws since beforei used foundations... ill never use screws

[midnight harness]

and i still learn it in a computer centered subject

[real shale]

Screws are great

[midnight harness]

so they are not chnging in the short run

[spice patio]

Because the teachers are idiot old farts who don't want change...

Doesn't make it right.

[hushed totem]

Oh god, I didn't use foundations for Awhile

[midnight harness]

and wikipedia doesnt say its wrong

[hushed totem]

I think I was like, 40ish hours in before actually using them

[near mural]

are fluid trains like bad bad i dont need nitrogen just yet but im definitely gonna wanna train them out somewhere somehow

[midnight harness]

and books are still being sold

[hushed totem]

And I didn't even snap them to the world grid either

[reef basin]

yeah world grid is a trap anyway

[midnight harness]

so it's not changing in the next few years at least

[hushed totem]

Actually idk, I just pipe it to whatever I need

[spice patio]

And SI system has been updated to explicitly say it is wrong.
And binary prefix standard also says it is wrong.

[reef basin]

it's not wrong to use GB
it's wrong to think GB is 1024 MB

[near mural]

elaborate pls i built EVERYTHING on world grid

[spice patio]

To use GB etc. for GiB etc.

[midnight harness]

are we really going back to this?

GiB is 1000, GB is 1024

[reef basin]

the other way around

[jagged nymph]

you have that backwards

[spice patio]

GB for GB is ok.
GiB for GiB is ok.
GB for GiB is not ok.
Fortunately no-one even tries to use GiB for GB.
Except @midnight harness

[spice patio]

Other way around.

[reef basin]

no reason to have things on same grid, localised grids give you much more creative freedom

[ornate saffron]

dont worry about it. building on the world grid is fine

alothough I do like building off grind. It forced me to learn howto merge foundations and make them look good. Which is a core part of curve making

[spice patio]

kB is 1000 bytes.
KiB is 1024 bytes.

[near mural]

i mean if things are only connected by trains i suppse world grid dosnt really matter huh

[reef basin]

if they are connected by anything

[ornate saffron]

think you boys are far into #off-topic-general time

[real shale]

real, this feels like a revolving debate

[unkempt blade]

I do skyroads between factories (trains + vehicles) and world grid makes my life so much easier

[near mural]

im not savy enough with the build system to merge foundations and it look nice yet

[midnight harness]

i have always used it like that

[real shale]

you'll learn overtime the tricks to aesthetics in the game

[midnight harness]

ike, my whole life

[ornate saffron]

go to #off-topic-general please we are trying to talk about satisfactory

[midnight harness]

i didnt even know there was another way

[reef basin]

it's super easy
and even if you don't want it, you don't need to connect things with foundations anyway

[real shale]

i actually found one quite recently where i like to shove power poles into pilars to make it look like bushings

[jagged nymph]

then youve always used it incorrectly

[real shale]

better looking than wall outlets imo

[midnight harness]

and taught incorrectly sadly

[midnight harness]

yep, a lot

[real shale]

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

The other thing I like to do with those lights is just stick a wall outlet directly behind the wall inside of the factory where they connect and then do all the cable stuff inside the factory

the clipping through the wall isn't visible and the inside already usually has lots of cables

[midnight harness]

(seems like joy doesnt taste that good judging by your pfp)

[unkempt blade]

unrelated, it's just the best emoji + the best vehicle

[real shale]

i dont mind the wall clipping tbh, it gives it that internal wiring look

[midnight harness]

hahaha

[prisma jewel]

hola, soy nuevo y me gusrtaria saber si hay algun contenido aqui de como traducir los mods de satisfacrory. gracias

[humble osprey]

hey i am trying to play with a freind by using the ip for multiplayer, do i have to be connected to the same wifi as him to play or? is it like LAN?

[midnight harness]

no que yo recuerde, pero puedes intentar buscar en Satisfactory Mod Manager

[midnight harness]

no, you can connect from anywhere

[ornate saffron]

The host likely needs to do some port forwarding

[midnight harness]

its easier to just invite eachother on steam or whatever platform you are in

[spare prism]

i really dont wanna hook up my factory

[real shale]

Oh would you look at that, the swamp seems ideal to produce my nukes

[midnight harness]

i have to rebuild my entire storage for the third time, spoiler alert, it doesnt get better

[humble osprey]

the other guys account is well um

[ornate saffron]

ya, many ppl build there first Nuclear reactor setup there

[midnight harness]

cracked?

[unkempt blade]

Because it's already perfect!

[humble osprey]

yes

[prisma jewel]

bueno de alli me dieron este canal de dc 😏

[humble osprey]

i dont know if im allowed to say that here

[ornate saffron]

the ggame is on sale right now.

[real shale]

Time to absolutely cover the swamp in concrete foundations to make it look prettier

[humble osprey]

i paid for mine, fair and square tho

[ornate saffron]

NO piracy talk.

Tell friend to pay for the game. its worth the money

[midnight harness]

i dont think they will ban you, you are the one that has it legally

[midnight harness]

that's true

but it's not recommended to talk about it a lot

[spare prism]

im fine when i have high mk poles but im stuck at mk1 rn

[midnight harness]

just go buy it

[humble osprey]

anyways thats not the issue here, the issue is i cant see my ip when i go to mannage session > session settings > session ID

[reef basin]

change to depots 🙂

[midnight harness]

i have both storage contairers and depots

[real shale]

Can always just do a "what is my IP" in Google

[humble osprey]

the place whwere it should show my IP is just empty

anyone know why?? has this happened to anyone ever???

[reef basin]

or run command line thing for your IP

based on your OS and stuff

[real shale]

That's true too

[crystal yoke]

guys, iam kinda confused right now
the AGS is off on my current game save, i can see its turned off at managing session menu
but, i still have access to keep inventory, pacifist config and arachinid config in accessibility menu
can i still get achievements? even with keep inventory

[midnight harness]

yes

those are not extra configs, they are in the base game without cheats

[inner ruin]

i hope in some near update they turn off the fixed path for that flying alien thing and have it try avoid structures

[crystal yoke]

very nice

[humble osprey]

wait is that the same thing what satisfactory would have outputted?

[real shale]

Yes, it would have outputted your public IP

[midnight harness]

the flying manta?

[inner ruin]

ye

[midnight harness]

but it's so funny when it just clips through your stuff

it doesnt destroy anything

[inner ruin]

meh. ugly game mechanic

[midnight harness]

and i get a ton of enjoyment from riding it

[jagged nymph]

you should be able to turn it off tho

[midnight harness]

my guy, this game lets you clip things through solid terrain, there is almost no realism

[real shale]

welp, time to expand my railway network to the swamp......back to the blue crater once again :D

[midnight harness]

i have a TF generator there ;P

[real shale]

i have everything there

including 300 fuel generators

[midnight harness]

i have 17.5 GW there

[real shale]

75 GW

[midnight harness]

plus a 10GW battery

[real shale]

god damn it that is a good idea huh, i should add a copious amount of batteries here

[midnight harness]

thats a lot

[midnight harness]

i have a blueprint for batteries from 1 to 3 GW

and its super space efficient

its pure laziness

[reef basin]

I know you don't like the unit discussion, but power storages (not batteries, that is an item) are measured in GWh, not GW 🙂

[midnight harness]

yea, but the storage capacity in batteries is plain GW, the output is /h

[reef basin]

it's not

[real shale]

it is

[reef basin]

you cannot store watts

you store joules

(or watthours)

and GWh is different from GW/h

[elfin smelt]

the age old confusion

[midnight harness]

true

just checked

they store watt-hour

[inner ruin]

yeah that is also ugly. i dont clip through things

[real shale]

honestly, being in the electricity industry, its a moot point, they know what you mean either way, and i knew what you meant

[midnight harness]

the devs said its intentional because if not it breaks, it was a bug if i remember correctly, but then they just left it as a feature

[midnight harness]

yea, normally they do

[inner ruin]

yeah i imagine things kept getting jammed

[real shale]

they use the base units for stored capacity anyway in most cases, they only refer to MWh etc etc when its actually outputting

[reef basin]

the other way around

it's outputting MW but storing MWh

[midnight harness]

yea, and it was laggy because they had to make every centimeter of conveyor hologram have a hitbox

[reef basin]

yeah, but since they said they didn't know about SI units, I thought I could teach them something

[midnight harness]

are you really trying to teach someone who works on that how it works? (Talking about Pioneer, not me)

[real shale]

tbf

[reef basin]

I was talking about teaching you, not pioneer

[real shale]

its semantics at this point, most people refer to the capacity of battery storage systems in MW etc etc

hell, you go to most system operator reports they'll list in MW

[midnight harness]

you do realize that the person that WORKS ON THAT INDUSTRY didn't correct me

[reef basin]

again, I'm very much aware that people use things wrongly

[reef basin]

and that relies on assumption that I do not work in that industry? 🤔

[midnight harness]

as is, if someone that knows what they are talking about doesn't correct me, i will use it as i used it with them

[midnight harness]

no, it relies on the fact that another person that is confirmed to do so hasn't

[real shale]

i mean in fairness they treat it like a generator, which is where the MW thing comes from

[midnight harness]

yea, they probably do

[reef basin]

"I've seen people using it wrong" shouldn't be a reason to also use it wrongly

[reef basin]

yeah, but as a generator, it can have any output from 0 MW to [almost-infinity] MW

[midnight harness]

and unless i'm writing a full on article on the subject to a person that works on it, normally people will understand, even if they do work on that industry

or don't you use abbreviations too?

[real shale]

actually its even more so treated a generator when you put sync condensors and all the other FACTS stuff into the mix

[reef basin]

again, I'm not saying I did not understand or anything like that

[real shale]

Also, this is a very much controlled and partially the reason why they are a nightmare for protection systems because of their imposed current limits

[reef basin]

I'm just pointing out that even the game lists it in GWh
and it's a pretty important distinction for some people

[midnight harness]

if we were all talking correctly, we would have to use full words such as do not and would not because we are not writing them correctly as abbreviations

[real shale]

but as someone said prior

tech teminology and standards are consistently inconsistent

[reef basin]

I'm still talking in SF context tho, not irl

[midnight harness]

yep

[real shale]

fair

[unkempt blade]

kilomegawatts - oops not sure where the reference got added 😄

[real shale]

death

[midnight harness]

death

[reef basin]

poor random guy getting pinged with a wrong unit on an unrelated message

[viscid bobcat]

I’ve taken a very long break in satisfactory and my world has about 40 Hours in it, and I was in the middle of building a large fsctory, should I just make a new world or can I still continue?

[humble osprey]

kMW

[unkempt blade]

I blame discord because I'm perfect in every way

[real shale]

dont worry, its not the worst thing you can say in an electrical context, it could be "volts jolts, current kills"

which makes my blood boil

[inner ruin]

1.21Gw

[midnight harness]

kkW

[jagged nymph]

kkkW

[humble osprey]

thats too far

[unkempt blade]

this is why we can't have triple prefixes only double prefixes

[real shale]

speaking of units and standards, theres also people who dont know units like volts (V) needs a space between the unit and the actual value :P

so you see stuff like 1000MW when its actually 1000 MW

[midnight harness]

that's true

[unkempt blade]

or 1 milliterawatt

[midnight harness]

and also most peoiple dont know how to calculate Watts

[jagged nymph]

kWh is such a cursed unit

[real shale]

its cursed because it doesnt exist

[inner ruin]

vol x amp = watt

[jagged nymph]

yes it does wdym

[real shale]

no, kWh does

:P

[midnight harness]

nope, one thing got left out

[inner ruin]

res?

[midnight harness]

yep

[real shale]

Are we talking AC or DC

[inner ruin]

idk how you add that in

[midnight harness]

if i remember right it was (V x A) / R

[real shale]

you add it in the alternative forms, VI is fine

[real shale]

no, you are thinking of I2R

[midnight harness]

hm

[real shale]

P = VI is correct

[midnight harness]

then i dont remember right

[inner ruin]

this is right?

[real shale]

alternatively I2R and V/R

[real shale]

yeah

[inner ruin]

ayy big dub

[unkempt blade]

Whichever one of them wrote Highway to Hell

[midnight harness]

learnt it 2 years ago from a 2 hour a week subject

[real shale]

but if you are including AC, its slightly different

then its p = vi (lower case to showing a changing quantity :P)

[inner ruin]

i cant do ac in my head

[jagged nymph]

yeah most people dont have air conditioning in their head either

[weak hedge]

what to do with power slugs

[jagged nymph]

research them in the mam, they are very important

[unkempt blade]

build a carousel out of conveyors around your hub and put the slugs on them

[hushed totem]

Beat them

[real shale]

we do have alternating current tho :P

[shy dagger]

Yall

I'm lowkey bad

[unkempt blade]

what makes it lowkey instead of just bad?

[spare prism]

at the game nice

[shy dagger]

Cause im chill with it

[real shale]

im highkey bad

[unkempt blade]

you should get less chill and fix the problem by using more factory carts

[shy dagger]

2 way rail, 1 rail line, keep reaching same error of after unloading at docking station. Presented with a "station unreachable". Looked through reddit and whatever else there is online but can't find a solid solution 😭😭

[shy dagger]

Wait this might be it

[unkempt blade]

it's at least not not an answer

[real shale]

is your train station the wrong way round?

[shy dagger]

Both stations are facing away from the direction of entry, there is a middle station but I don't think that's important

[unkempt blade]

do you have a train station platform on both sides of the stations and a locomotive for each direction on the train?

[shy dagger]

Yes

[weak bloom]

finished my stack of 4x144 fuel generators :^) now time to get back to actually building useful products

[shy dagger]

Sick, I've got my factory of 12 generators using turbo fuel, long way to go

Mahoraga PLEASE HELP

Ok so at reaching the unloading station I have to get it, press Dock, and then it unloads and proceeds to work again

[wise junco]

fluid carts when

[ornate saffron]

Best we can do is trucks 😛

[real shale]

FLUID TRUCKS

i want them

[unkempt blade]

we need to get more signatures before CSS will take us seriously

[wise junco]

signs a drawing of a banana

[ornate saffron]

Ten days and you can help on experimental and get your trucks

[real shale]

there is too many TREES around me

[wise junco]

expwosives

[weak bloom]

#screenshots message kinda sad the sloop in the power augmenter stops rendering at such a close distance away 🙁

[unkempt blade]

I stand in solidarity with my QA brothers and only do paid testing!

[real shale]

but then i have to start a new save.....

and also it ruins the surprise

[wise junco]

i.. never thought of this. i've never played on experimental and now i'm glad i haven't

[ornate saffron]

Well no you can just backup your save then play it on experimental.

And somehow I doubt any of use are going to avoid the surprises as long as we are in this discord

[tall lantern]

no chance lol

some of it might stay confined to #satisfactory-experimental initially, but it'll spread

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm going to keep telling people that fluids are going to be even more perfect than they already are so the surprise is ruined

[tall lantern]

and of course if we get a video about it (which I believe we are?), that'll definitely be talked about here

[real shale]

dont worry im sure a message of "Mk3 pipes didnt solve my fluid flow issues" will appear here

[wise junco]

i used 16 buffers and layers of valves and my flow is messed up, help

[shy dagger]

Fluids are my worst enemy 😡

[inner ruin]

you say this while water is keeping you alive 😮

[real shale]

no, you are your own worst enemy in this game

99% of fluid problems are a pioneer issue

[unkempt blade]

don't worry, fluids are going to be even more perfect in 1.2

[weak bloom]

ah yes, my eternal nemesis
Past Me

[wise junco]

HAHA

[weak bloom]

that guy sucks

[wise junco]

literally laughed out loud @weak bloom

sometimes i spend a few days on one side of the map, then when i go back to the old side i go "who built this garbage?....oh"

"nevermind"

[real shale]

thats me in my design job looking at a drawing i hate and going "who did this stuff?" before looking and seeing my name on the latest revision

[weak bloom]

also me in software engineering "what IDIOT wrote this code-oh"

[wise junco]

sometimes I'll be at work and go "who ordered all this product?...oh...it was me.. i'm the villain here"

[real shale]

"you know what on second thought this drawing looks alright"

[unkempt blade]

I'm the only one at my current job who occasionally leaves comments instead of just going "CoDe SHouLd bE SelFdOcuMenting 🤓 " so it's usually pretty obvious

[real shale]

you ever see that one coding meme where its like "only god and i knew how this code worked, and now, only god knows, please increment this counter for every failed attempt at optimising it"

[weak bloom]

"yeah and I shouldn't HAVE to be reviewing your shitty code but we can't always get what we want" ~~god i wish I could say this so often ~~

[tall lantern]

code should be self-documenting - it should explain the "what" very clearly
but comments are for the why

[weak bloom]

Also half the time everyone parroting that talking point writes unclear code anyway

[real shale]

that is why i dont leave any comments because even i dont know why

[unkempt blade]

but if they do that how will they improve their code golf numbers?

[tall lantern]

"yes I can see you're adding 12 to that value, but why on earth are you doing that"

[real shale]

i can only imagine a batman like interrogation "WHY ARE YOU ADDING 2+2 HERE, TELL ME!!"

[weak bloom]

They'll just reply that the API spec should explain that.....it's never ending with these people.
It's always just an excuse to get out of properly documenting their code

[tall lantern]

just like real golf, do it on your own time and not in your office 😛

[real shale]

trees in this game disgust me, i cant wait til i get my hands on nukes

[shy dagger]

Nukes?

[jagged nymph]

Code shouldn't need comments to make sense, but it can help explain it better

[real shale]

nukes

yes rico...kaboom

[shy dagger]

I'm alot more excited

[ornate saffron]

I find cluster bombs do a better job.

Although less satisfaction

[real shale]

dont you mean..less SATISFACTORY

HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAH

[unkempt blade]

the longer it's in use the more grateful you'll be for the comments when product inevitably wants a change 😆

but that's a problem for future me Claude probably

[jagged nymph]

Yeah, there should be comments, but you shouldn't need them

If that makes sense

[shy dagger]

Yall know if there any online resources that essentially just a trouble shooting guid for ts

[real shale]

do you know where the semi circle goes

[ornate saffron]

Ts?

[shy dagger]

🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️I DOO

[shy dagger]

This shit

[ornate saffron]

There is much shit out there.

Please specify

[unkempt blade]

you just type your problem into google with the word "satisfactory" at the end and it generally has threads for you to look at

[shy dagger]

🧎‍♂️🙏🙏 trains 🙏🙏

[ornate saffron]

Signal issues?

[real shale]

oh my god, the swamp on moody dark global illumination at night looks...depressing

[ornate saffron]

It can be

[shy dagger]

Reddit quora yt sites no ones heard off. Been to them all

[shy dagger]

Not even, just a two way line

[real shale]

it actually looks so ominous, i feel im in fucking gotham

[ornate saffron]

The spider help keep your mind off it

[shy dagger]

Gang i work on the railway irl youd think trains rail would be my strong suit

[real shale]

#screenshots message

Genuinely, i feel like batman lives here, it looks as moody as gotham

[ornate saffron]

Single rail two way limits you to one train

Put a engine on each end of the train.

Stations should have the curved part facing away from the freight platforms

[ornate saffron]

Its a good representation of me

[real shale]

you are batman?

[unkempt blade]

I live in a swamp! I put up signs turned on gloomy illumination! I'm a terrifying ogre [at night]! What do I have to do to get a little privacy?

[ornate saffron]

All but the rich and vigilante parts.

[worldly burrow]

is the wiki down?

[ornate saffron]

The screw page loaded for me.

Wiki.gg mind you.

Don't use fandom

[real shale]

search function has been playing up for a bit right now, but everything else has been working just fine

[worldly burrow]

for me it just ups my gpu usage to 100%

[ornate saffron]

Jeez. That weird

[tall lantern]

wiki's being slow for me too. got an error once yesterday too but it's mostly been fine otherwise

[real shale]

[tall lantern]

though my GPU is not spiking 😅

[worldly burrow]

could one of you send the URL maybe?

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @tall lantern

[tall lantern]

ah there we go, 502 Bad Gateway on my third page

[leaden turret]

checks wiki.gg discord for known issues

[worldly burrow]

so its not me?

[tall lantern]

dunno, depends what's happening for you

[worldly burrow]

doesnt work lol

[leaden turret]

did you unplug the server to charge your phone? 😛

[tall lantern]

descriptive

[worldly burrow]

I suppose I did

[fickle wraith]

im trying to intersect two trains on to one station but the rail signal is the wrong way for some reason and i cant rotate it

[fickle wraith]

#screenshots message

[wise junco]

It's a little fickle at times and you have to look at the track just right. Are you at a rail connecting point or in between?

[tall lantern]

where's the signal?

[wise junco]

Those signs forget it they'll never be right

Make your peace with it 🤣

[fickle wraith]

do they matter?

[tall lantern]

not at all

[wise junco]

Only for manual driving

Self driving doesn't worry about them

[fickle wraith]

gotcha

[normal orbit]

Those just direction indicators

Turn one way or the other

[real shale]

oh i can give my uranium a wash through the water fall before i process it... nice

[wise junco]

Very safe for the water below

[real shale]

i mean.... it is....water is how they contain radiation

[worldly burrow]

I already said what is happening lol

[real shale]

thats why its technically safe to swim in a nuclear water bath because the radioactive material is that deep that the radioation is no where near as lethal

[tall lantern]

100% GPU on visiting the wiki is unlikely to be directly caused by the wiki, imo

god knows what it could be, but issues with the wiki loading are probably unrelated to that

[real shale]

does the swamp have unique music or something, ive never heard this music before

[worldly burrow]

but its ONLY the SF wiki, every other wiki.gg is loading

and every other website

[jagged nymph]

you tried every other website and wiki in existence?

[tall lantern]

sure there's something wack with the wiki loading at all (it's hit or miss for me as I already mentioned)

[worldly burrow]

omg shut the fuck up, I tried some

[wise junco]

I learned today. I didn't realize water has radiation shielding properties in bulk. That's pretty wild

[real shale]

yeah, for every one meter depth of water, the radiation is effectively cut in half afaik

[wise junco]

From what I read that seems about right

Pretty cool! I love learning about anything nuclear but somehow never heard that

[inner ruin]

yeah its why they leave it in a massive pool for years after use

[white dawn]

7cm, not 1m. :)

[normal orbit]

the wiki.gg been very slow to load for me as well. but its not doing anything to my gpu

[white dawn]

Though I wouldn't trust a waterfall to be a particularly good method of protecting yourself against "raw" radioative material going underneath it on belts. For one you're not actually guaranteed any density of water at any given time, and also since it's exposed you'd be potentially introducing radioactive particulate into the water below. :D

[real shale]

eh its the swamp so its fineeeee

theres already plenty of mutant spiders in there, whats a couple more

[spare prism]

NOOO something is wrong my one machine doesnt have a belt do it but idk what i didnt connect

[slender minnow]

so, can i swin at chernobyl?

[jagged nymph]

no

[real shale]

no, that is a different story

[slender minnow]

well, thats disapointing

[jagged nymph]

thats illegal and deadly

[slender minnow]

what a shame

[real shale]

i tried swimming in the elephants foot, they said it was stupid for some reason

[slender minnow]

IN THE ELEPHANTS FOOT?

WHAT IS YOUR DENSITY?

[real shale]

uhhhh let me look it up real quick

[slender minnow]

(as it would be impossible for a natral human to penetrate the surface of the waste)

[real shale]

1.096 +/- 0.007 g/cc

[slender minnow]

ah, mb

[ornate saffron]

well yes, but long term health will be affected

[slender minnow]

so they LIED

[real shale]

and possibly short term depending on where you do it

[slender minnow]

i CAN swin in chernoble

[wise junco]

You know they shot the elephants foot?

[slender minnow]

*thud/ *Squelch

[wise junco]

They needed a sample and it was the fastest way to break off a piece

And safest

[slender minnow]

ah, makes sense

i find it would have a nice taste

[wise junco]

LMAO

[real shale]

even though safest is a low bar because you only have a minute to stand near it before getting a lethal dose

[slender minnow]

for, "food sciences"

[wise junco]

No doubt lol

[slender minnow]

can it erase my bodily composure?

hm, what would happen if i ate the medicinal banana

[real shale]

cannibalism

[slender minnow]

but, its a medicinal banana

[spare prism]

Bro the math ain’t mathing rn

I’m getting over WHELMED

[slender minnow]

then take a break by building a man cannon

[spare prism]

MY one assembler is missing screws idk where they are

[slender minnow]

just make more screws

[spare prism]

Oh no

I miss counted my factory is missing 2 assemblers

[slender minnow]

what phase are you on?

[spare prism]

Nooo I gotta rebuild everything

[real shale]

overclock

[spare prism]

I quit

I quit I’m done

[slender minnow]

uh oh, hes burned out

[spare prism]

This game is stupid

[real shale]

put two assemblers to 200% clock speed problem solved

[slender minnow]

i was warned about this

@warm finch warned me, im sorry benson

[warm finch]

Overclock and you're good

[spare prism]

I can’t

[warm finch]

Why not?

[spare prism]

It’s complicated but I’ll just add some

So I have all the recourses I just forgot to add the extra 2 to the line that then goes upstairs

[inner ruin]

can someone explain how ficsyt defied the laws of energy and made there conveyor belts run on 0 energy

[ornate saffron]

video game logic.

[real shale]

efficiency

[ornate saffron]

You cant see the invisible Gnomes that are running upside down on teh underside of each belt

[spare prism]

Can’t belt move without electric

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[deft drum]

Belts use frictionless materials and/or Stirling engines

[jagged nymph]

My friend always says he wishes belts needed power.to work

[gloomy tusk]

i hate your friend

[jagged nymph]

Which is like.... why

[white dawn]

Could use a mod to cut power-generation build outputs by like 75%. That'd account for 'em. :D

[jagged nymph]

Playing sf+ rn and its HELL

[spare prism]

There’s probably a mod for it

OC belt when

We can move 1 trillion items

[jagged nymph]

Mk7 belt when

[low ingot]

When 1.2 comes 🙂

[jagged nymph]

Mk4 miner when

[reef basin]

never

[jagged nymph]

Mk2 oil extractor when

mk2 water extractor when

[spare prism]

Mr. Dream killer entered chat

[slender minnow]

mk 4 power lines when

[jagged nymph]

Impossible pipe when

[slender minnow]

mk 2 power towers when

mk 2 somersloop when

[white dawn]

mk2 Lizard Doggos

[jagged nymph]

YES

[slender minnow]

mk2 awesone sink when

[ornate frost]

Pioneer mk.2

[jagged nymph]

They can bring sloops n spheres

[slender minnow]

wait

thats genius

[jagged nymph]

Mk2 bean?

[white dawn]

Someone should do a mod which just adds "mk2" in front of everything that doesn't already have a mk, and adds +1 to everything which does

[jagged nymph]

Shouldn't actually be hard to make tbh

[dense ingot]

HELLO had satisfactory sitting in my steam library and decided to play it, ive had fun am on phase 3

[ornate saffron]

Giga Bean. You can build on its back

[jagged nymph]

I mean I domt know anything about modsing this game but doesnt seem too bad

[ornate frost]

Basically my experience.
"I havent touched this game in a minute, let me try it out again"

[dense ingot]

bought it on computer that could not run it. now i got a new and can run it

[humble osprey]

does ficsit pay me to make my buildings look pretty

[white dawn]

I believe ADA would be canonically against it. :)

[real shale]

You are assuming you get paid in the first place

[spare prism]

lol

[deft drum]

"Any compensation for your work is being put into the loan you took to come this far from Earth in order to Save the Day"

[raven lance]

Is it just me or is the photo usually freaking out? Recently the bottom half of my screen in photo mode has just decided it'd be cooler to just be black and be inconsistent at different altitudes

[slender minnow]

since last night, i went from starting phase 4 to halfway phase 4

[wise junco]

i have to pay ficsit to participate

[slender minnow]

its all going back to YOUR loan

so yeah

[storm hull]

is satisfactory making my gpu temp 62/61 degrees normal?

[raven isle]

Can't say I expected to be bottlenecked by iron plates of all things to unlock T6 belts...

[river marsh]

This game has seriously put me at a stalemate, i know if i open it im gonna be glued to it for hours but im tired at the same time yet i cant sleep

[oak stirrup]

Steeled Frame or Molded Steel Pipe? which one should i take? i guess Steeled Frame right?

[normal orbit]

whichever you would use

both are good

[oak stirrup]

3 Steel > 2 Pipes / 5 Steel + 3 Cement > 5 Pipes kinda doesn't make sense

[normal orbit]

50% more pipe for some cheap concrete? whats not to like?

[wise junco]

every recipe in the game has its use case, rest assured

[oak stirrup]

I see

[mossy fulcrum]

and there's enough hard drives to get every recipe eventually

[wise junco]

all depends on what you have closeby or what youre trying to accomplish

[oak stirrup]

Oh was my first drive, so was expecting the other option to be locked forever

[wise junco]

ahhhh, no

there are ||117-ish?|| hard drives, and youll be able to unlock everything with a few to spare if i recall

[normal orbit]

na you can get every recipe

you need a lot of drives tho

[raven isle]

Don't pick them until you need them. It helps give you more options as you scan drives. You can return to them later to pick them.

[primal crypt]

which stautues have a decent size

[rustic charm]

is it normal to want to start a completely new save? im on phase4 parts, t8, but i just want to start over

[inner echo]

For me...yes.

[rustic charm]

its my first playthrough. 100h so far

[inner echo]

I've never 'finished' in 2.6k hours.

[primal crypt]

its normal keep in mind it would take you a long time to devolp the map and your first facotry is likly thowaway for most people.

[inner echo]

I've always kinda hated space elevator parts.

[rustic charm]

phase4 parts are insane

[primal crypt]

sometimes its better to replace what you need in another biome and decomonision.

[rustic charm]

i kinda want everything locked again though

[real shale]

Time to cover the entire swamp in concrete

[raven isle]

Just pushed the big red button for the last time. Slightly somber.

[inner echo]

It was worse before...but they just have no ongoing use. Even with 1.0 I just ended up containerizing parts only needed for later parts. Never doing the chain for them.

[raven isle]

And holy crap, T6 belts look cheap. I expected more cost.

[inner echo]

They are cheap in that "leave the game running for an hour to build up a buffer" way.

[scenic thistle]

Can you use trains just for transport like have it going round the map and u get in when it arrives

[inner echo]

Though the power is nothing to sneeze at.

[ornate saffron]

No reason why you cant

[scenic thistle]

Ty

[inner echo]

There are mods...but I would just build a loco on the fly, and delete it when I get where I want.

[raven isle]

I just finished my 300 GW factory, luckily. I was at 12k beforehand. Feels weird having so much more headspace. Can't wait to need power again, though, LOL

[normal orbit]

technically yes, tho i would just make a train drive it, then dismantle it rather than waiting for one to come

[real shale]

anyone know what the blast radius of normal vs nuke nobelisks is

[inner echo]

I prefer cluster for radius...and lack of fallout.

[real shale]

eh i have infinite iodine filters now, so the fallout isnt an issue

[inner echo]

Plus you can use them as ghetto fireworks if you just chuck them (not straight up) and detonate mid flight.

(cause the cluster bonblets don't detonate till they reach the ground...good for that 'smell of agent orange in the morning')

[golden warren]

Ah, you can't zoop Blueprints?

Me realising my train tunnel I designed is going to need to be manuall placed 1000's of times to go across the map

[inner echo]

That's the story of trains.

Even without tunnels.

[real shale]

okay so apparently nukes have a 25m blast radius

[inner echo]

It's just more fun above ground.

[real shale]

i say aparrently because its not listed on the actual wiki

[golden warren]

Yeah but at least I could build like 3 times as long tracks if I wasn't being limited to the blueprint

Now it's a third as long, and I have to spend time making sure the blueprint lines up

[inner echo]

Sorry...I'm a big fat cheater when it comes to my train bp.

6 is just such a better amount of tiles. Four minimum length rail segments.

[golden warren]

How so?
I'm using a couple QoL mods

Oh is it like a mega blueprint?

[inner echo]

I use a bpx6 for my rail...and most anything else.

[humble osprey]

Don't u wish we could choose body shape customization

[river marsh]

Whats the best way to build rail tracks on the same altitude? (Ive been using a concrete pillar with foundations and 2 rails on top blueprint with auto connect for this but it kinda becomes ugly when the terrain is extremely uneven)

[humble osprey]

I hate that everyone is the same exact height

[inner echo]

I really like 12 and it's divisibility. Still don't love the 'foot' though.

[humble osprey]

Every methord has it's benefits and disadvantages

The methord u have chosen is best used for quickly setting down long tracks with no planning and minimal resources

[inner echo]

I use a mod...grid ruler. It's the best for doing surveying work.

[humble osprey]

If u want perfectly straight rails, you'll have to sacrifice all of that comfort tho

[river marsh]

Damn 😭😭

ill probably stick to comfort then

[humble osprey]

I know this doesn't answer your question personally I really would get used to the wobblyness than deal with all that

[river marsh]

Oh wow how does it work?

[inner echo]

I just got really tired of my train being off the Z part of the world grid by some unudgable amount.

[river marsh]

yeah probably what im gonna do too

[humble osprey]

Btw with ur methord, u can lock a hologram with H and then nudge it up and down to make it match the altitude

Did u know this? It's very important that you know what I'm talking about

[river marsh]

OHHH WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THAT

[inner echo]

It's a holgraphic foundation with like a 20x20 tile grid hologram surrounding it.

[river marsh]

i think my brain is too tired to understand this

[inner echo]

more like 40x40? Some big grid.

[river marsh]

Can i bury the pillar base with nudging

if so itll be so helpful

[normal orbit]

yes

[river marsh]

lovely

[normal orbit]

nudge it down

[inner echo]

I usually just snap it to something

[spare prism]

What’s more. Wire or cable put into a sink?

[river marsh]

prob wire?

I mean cable

[inner echo]

Sometimes I will only put it down without actually building it...fly away to the end...then nudge

[normal orbit]

its generally more points to put the item needing more steps to make. theres a single exception to it afaik.

[river marsh]

ok sir

[spare prism]

Okay I’m gunna make cable

[humble osprey]

Yes ofc

[river marsh]

thanks dandan

This might be life changing

[gloomy tusk]

when you set it up they just work you dont need to wait a long time unless you make like 10p/m and then thats just a lack of preperation problem

[normal orbit]

wire is 6 points, cable is 24. needing 2 wire to make 1 cable, means you'd egt double points sinking cable vs wire

[real shale]

oh boy i am going to need a lot of concrete huh

[glad drum]

#screenshots message -- idk if I'll do "Iron Pipes" again but it was handy for a 'quick' and needed boost to my pipe production

[inner echo]

Screen shot #screenshots message

[river marsh]

Looks neat

[gloomy tusk]

just set up wet concrete factory it is so useful

[real shale]

no i mean i have plenty going into the dimensional depot just not fast enough for what im doing right now

which is making the swamp look nicer

[normal orbit]

more depots :p

[real shale]

i have 6 depots pouring in concrete

[normal orbit]

could have 10

[real shale]

dont like the number 10

[inner echo]

I have like 18...impatient. Though I do wonder if the virtual container has the same weird "can't be more than ~2000 items per minute" everything else has.

[raven isle]

Hmm, so I'm planning out my pins in my DD. Literally held off on uploading them so I had a specific order. So far I know I want my ion fuel, gas filters, iodine filters, med inhaler, homing ammo, and nobelisk. Am I forgetting anything?

[real shale]

#screenshots message this will certainly take a while

i feel mr burns trying to block out the sun, except its the swamp

[unkempt blade]

It's your game so do with this what you will but I think you might be overthinking this. You're not going to be interacting with the DD manually very often even for the stuff you've listed

[oak stirrup]

the spilitter splits the resources evenly right?

[normal orbit]

yes

[oak stirrup]

i can't figure out why i'm getting less resources on one side in a 2 split

[raven isle]

Oh, I am. And I know I won't, but I appreciate that I waited and it's already done. I'm just trying to make sure I didn't forget anything else that I might want.

[real shale]

are you afflicted by the "wrong belt level on one side" curse

[oak stirrup]

it's so stupid istg, deffo not a belt issue

[normal orbit]

are both sides using resources at same rate?

[oak stirrup]

I've checked them all, even the vertical belt

[midnight harness]

did you perchance snap it into a belt?

and then upgrade the exterior belts or build them?

[oak stirrup]

yes supposed to be, the output of my iron ore is supposed to be 240, mk3 belts everywhere, one side has only 4 smelters connected in 2x2 and the other side is supposed to go directly to 2 foundries using 45 iron ore each, but for some reason the foundries aren't even getting 45 (when they should be getting 60)

[oak stirrup]

i've destroyed and rebuilt the entire setup for the third time

[midnight harness]

same question

[midnight harness]

even the splitter?

[oak stirrup]

yes

[midnight harness]

hm

show me ss

or is it already on the channel?

[oak stirrup]

even the splitter, at first the splitter was using 3 outlets, now i reduced it to 2 to maybe make a difference but it didn't

[unkempt blade]

I think anything else would just be other ammo/nobelisk/fuel preferences if you have any other ones you'd want there

[oak stirrup]

mind if i dm it to you

[fervent folio]

I have a question about the game before I purchase it. If anyone doesn't mind answering.

[oak stirrup]

what's up

[normal orbit]

ask

[midnight harness]

yea, np

[midnight harness]

sure, what is it?

[fervent folio]

Since i dont have all that much money to spend since I don't have a job yet i was wondering whats the lowest satisfactory goes, because ive look on steam db and its weird. Im assuming its 30% off?

[jagged nymph]

just built a belt rate limiter setup for the first time ever because i dont have priority merger yet lol

[midnight harness]

prolly like 50 in a sale that has both CSS and a steam discount event

[real shale]

my swamps looking better already

[fervent folio]

well right now its $27.99 and by looking at steam db it says it goes on sale 30% off alot even during major sales

[normal orbit]

its been on 50% once or twice, but its mostly at 30%

[gloomy tusk]

anyone know the game doom eternal?

[fervent folio]

So i should just get it at 30%

[midnight harness]

if they dopnt they live under a rock

why do you ask?

[normal orbit]

imo yes, you might be waiting for years until its 50% again

[real shale]

whats doom

[fervent folio]

Alright thanks for the info ill most likely get the game today or tomorrow

[midnight harness]

a word

[oak stirrup]

ever since jan 2025 it's only been -30%

[gloomy tusk]

i want to get it

[oak stirrup]

so yeah i'd say so

[midnight harness]

its a good game, but its hard as is doom policy

[jagged nymph]

which is something i only recently figured out how to do

[fierce valley]

the main fuse blowing

[weak bloom]

I can set up train tracks to link up my existing train lines and make intersections and such without using signals as long as I'm not adding any new trains, right?
like I have 3 independent rail lines now and I want to connect them all and start building them into a bigger network, and I can do the tracks without affecting the existing lines?

I think I'll only need signals once I start adding trains that actually will intersect

[real shale]

This is why you have priority power switches

[fierce valley]

i remember not knowing about them during my first ever playthru

[fierce valley]

do you want the tracks to be one or two way? just wondering

[weak bloom]

one way, I have 2 tracks one for each direction on these existing lines already, just haven't connected them together

[fierce valley]

oh, then yeah you can connect them

if you're doing bi directional rails, have a passing siding along the track

[snow rune]

In the HAB, on the top bunk bed there is a strange alien looking box (you need to look inside it) what is it? or does everyone not know?

[verbal vault]

simply plural is dead

[spare prism]

Sees gap in product runs around trying to find miss matched belt 💀

[gentle lava]

how do i make it so it auto crafts, as in the manual crafting

[normal orbit]

spacebar

[gentle lava]

Ty

[tropic arrow]

TIL water extractors not only require the water to be sufficiently deep (which I knew) but apparently not TOO deep. 🙁

[stone quiver]

Yeah something about the tides

[tropic arrow]

So much for my planned extractor location 🙁

[real shale]

nah its just an out of bounds thing

if you put it too far outside of the map it just acts as if theres no water there

[tropic arrow]

To the developer's credit, when you try to place it it clearly shows the extractor sinking into the water as you slide the potential build location. So you can see exactly where the supposed "drop off" is.

but now I only have a third of the space I thought. So I'm trying to adapt.

[jagged nymph]

cant you press h and then use page up to bring it back up? or just build it to a foundation?

[cunning glade]

Is there any place in grasslands with a lot of water?

[tropic arrow]

can't nudge extractors

[sharp basin]

Don’t know why but can’t equip homing rifle ammos

[real shale]

theres the two water resource wells to the north east

[jagged nymph]

yeah you can i just did it 5 minutes ago

[sharp basin]

Got loooots of them and the rifle of course

[jagged nymph]

wait nvm

i forgot i have a nudge mod on

[cunning glade]

Yeah not quite enough hmmm

[jagged nymph]

but you can place them on foundations that are just barely submerged into the water

[cunning glade]

I need 21k water a min

[jagged nymph]

thats alot of water

[cunning glade]

Kinda

For nuclear I think I need 146k

[real shale]

oh boy, you arent gonna find that much in the grasslands, better off taking it from the shore to the west then

[tropic arrow]

Maybe they have ammo preference selections, like the jetpack does? Is there a selection on it?

[cunning glade]

I'm either thinking train in the water or build somewhere else I just don't know where

And I can't decide

[bleak valley]

Build it in the ocean

[tropic arrow]

found it. Hold R to bring up radial menu to select ammo type

[cunning glade]

See but I kinda wanna build it on land tho I could just make a platform in the ocean

[jagged nymph]

coal power online

well partially

im gonna increase it by 6x this amount but i made just enough to cutoff my biomass burners

[bleak valley]

I wanna remake my original coal plant but I kinda like preserving it

It’s very inefficient lol

[empty spoke]

yall for sure know that circle route over the whole map of trains, will i let all trains drive in the same clockwise direction?

[sharp basin]

Chainsaw can only use solid biofuel?

And question about gas mask: infinite usage or not?

[jagged nymph]

they use gas filters

[real shale]

#screenshots message 1/3 of the way there

[cunning glade]

For?

[real shale]

covering the entire swamp in concrete

[sharp basin]

You just keep them in your inventory?

[jagged nymph]

yes

[midnight harness]

yep

[jagged nymph]

just like the jetpack with fuel

[sterile mesa]

guys i need help with water pumps

for some reason it works for a bit then just stops working

[midnight harness]

shoot, i will kelp

[midnight harness]

huh, maybe energy?

[sterile mesa]

energy is fine

[midnight harness]

or sloshback

[sterile mesa]

what is slosh back ?

[midnight harness]

did u use pumps?

[sterile mesa]

nope

it is around 6m headlift

[midnight harness]

is the water lower than the gens?

[midnight harness]

use them anyways

[sterile mesa]

yes the water is lower than the gens even when using them same problem

[tropic arrow]

Figured out a way to extend the extractors a single slot over the deep ocean. Doesn't help much but at least I can squeeze one extra row of them in my limited space.

[midnight harness]

they prevent the water going the wrong way

[sharp basin]

Does not work with radiations I guess?

[midnight harness]

did ypu wait for the gens to fill up before turning them on?

[midnight harness]

that needs the hazmat suit

[sterile mesa]

i did not do that

i will try doing that

[midnight harness]

other filters and only made after tier 3 of elevator

[midnight harness]

yep, normally its that

[sterile mesa]

the thing is the pipeline gets water and fills up then after a minute it just stops getting anymore water

[midnight harness]

even more if its really tight or exact

[sterile mesa]

even though the one before it is fully filled

[midnight harness]

did you perchance snap the crosses to the pipe?

[sterile mesa]

yes

[midnight harness]

you have to reconnect then

only the main one

lemme show you

[sterile mesa]

alright

[midnight harness]

you need to have 2 extractors in one side of the main pipe (since they max at 300) and the other on the other side of the main pipe

max of 8 coal gens per mainj pipe

main*

[sterile mesa]

i have 20 extractors and 40 coal gens 4 of the coal gens are set to 50%

[sharp basin]

That’s the only body suit?

[midnight harness]

which tiar are you on?

[sterile mesa]

each extractor is going into two coal gens

[midnight harness]

yes

[sterile mesa]

we are in phase 2

[midnight harness]

then you have mk 2 pipes?

[sterile mesa]

we havent unlocked them yet

[midnight harness]

if you do, you can double the max cap

[sterile mesa]

how can i show u this

it is so confusing why it is not workking

[midnight harness]

and i recommend expanding to a max of like, 36 gens

[midnight harness]

send on screenshots channel

[sterile mesa]

because when we had 20 coal gens it was working perfectly bu after adding the double it stopped

[midnight harness]

or dm me. idc

[sterile mesa]

i will dm u

[midnight harness]

aight

[bleak valley]

I feel like I’m hitting a plateau

I just unlocked advanced aluminum and I just don’t know what to do

[white dawn]

1. Choose something you haven't yet automated.
2. Automate it!
3. If tired of factory building for the moment, go exploring for awhile instead
4. Repeat!

[bleak valley]

I think I just need to get rid of all my manufactures make a second factory somewhere to double my current materials then combine them into a third factory for the advanced stuff right now I don’t make enough to make more higher tier items

[white dawn]

In the end, of course, progression means factory building. Burnout can happen to all of us! Sometimes it helps to go explore instead, sometimes it helps to make your own goals, sometimes it helps to take a break and touch grass, or just play something else for a bit

[spare prism]

hi

[white dawn]

IMO what often really helps is getting out of the mindset of "main factories" in the first place. I mostly have totally separate, isolated factories for literally every component in the game, which essentially go from ore->product

So like if I were you, I wouldn't "get rid" of anything; I'd just make new factories, totally from scratch, for whatever needs production next

Trying to "centralize" resources (ie: produce a bunch of Resource X in the hopes that future factories will need it) is more work than many folks realize, and you're constantly trying to guess what the future brings

If, instead, you just decide that whenever anything needs Resource X, you make more of it right inside the new factory, then things become (IMO) quite a bit more straightforward

[bleak valley]

So if for example radio control units I only have enough materials right now to have one machine going instead of adding to what I have I should find somewhere else with enough of the materials to make a decent amount

[white dawn]

Once again, I'm dancing around the build strategy of "Independency" - https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency 🥳

[white dawn]

Right, what I'd do is find a spot that's got all (or most) of the resource that the RCUs need, and build a factory right there for it.

And then for the next resource I'd do the same -- totally isolated factories, mostly going from ore->product

By that point in the game, I admit I'm often doing "subfactories" for more advanced parts. Like later on when something else needs more RCUs, I'm likely to make a new, separate RCU factory just for that one new item. Like some other production needs 12/min RCU or whatever; I'll make 12/min RCU specifically for that thing

[bleak valley]

Ok yeah the opening statement is exactly my issue lol

[white dawn]

Rather than trying to expand an existing factory or whatever

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's real easy for folks to fall into the centralization mindset, especially since it's not too difficult to keep up in the earlier parts of the game

[bleak valley]

So leave my current small setup running and find a new place for the things I need way more of

[white dawn]

It can quickly become kind of a nightmare though

Yeah, that's how I'd do it, anyway

[bleak valley]

I was able to keep the central idea for longer because of how good my spawn was I had tons of iron and copper right together to use

But yeah this will help

My only issue is finding a good goal amount for each item

[white dawn]

And of course some people like centralization anyway -- Independency's just one way to play the game. I end up advocating for it all the time, but I don't always follow it religiously, etc

[white dawn]

That's kind of another nice feature of Independency -- each factory essentially only ever outputs to your own personal storage. So it's just a question of "how quickly do I want my own build-gun stuff to replenish?" For advanced parts often just a single machine's worth is good enough for that

[real shale]

oh wow, okay so crashpods can require phase 5 stuff huh, first time seeing that

[bleak valley]

Yeah here’s my map after almost 100 hours #screenshots message it’s all very together

[sharp basin]

Explosive rebars do the same job as regular nobelisks right?

Meaning blowing up rocks?

If so, which nobelisk should I carry with me? Pulse nobelisk? To push enemies away?

Gas nobelisk, I don’t see the point

[bleak valley]

I use xeno basher

[swift turret]

some creatures are killed by the gas

[normal orbit]

Gas Nobby does like 5? Ticks of 30dmg. While normal Nobby is 50dmg

Pulse is fun for a momentum boost

[mortal ginkgo]

you might as well kill them. Pulse nobelisk is mostly a way to put 15 on ground and smack'em to make yourself fly far away. Its like a "hypertube cannon but done as intended"

Gas Nobelisk is meh because spiders are immune to it (I think the large variants are)

[normal orbit]

The green ones are either immune or very resistant

[spiral summit]

snowballs....

cheapest explosive ever

let the snow fall on my enemies

[feral jay]

I stockpoiled tens of thosands of them over Ficsmas

[spiral summit]

lategame automate nuke nobelisks and jetpack 100m in the air and hope you dont blow yourself up

[slender minnow]

no offense, but i really dont like ur cosplay

[mortal ginkgo]

This sounds like an ULTRA MASSIVE OMEGA ALPHA CHUNGUS "you problem" to me my dear brotherman of century.

[slender minnow]

lol

[slender minnow]

anyways, now its time for be to rebuild my factory, i. love. ficsit.

[jagged nymph]

why rebuild?

ive never once tore down an old factory

ive expanded old ones, but never rebuilt

[feral jay]

I love the cosplay, but they need to realize that PURE LIMESTONE NODES are superiour in every way

[slender minnow]

my spaghheti looks worse than a bowl of ramen, and optimizing mk 3 miners is necessary

[slender minnow]

wait a minute

no you are different people

and tbh, you ARE superior and i like ur cosplay

[spiral summit]

the best limestone node is the random one thats 4 foundations away from the factory that needs it

[real shale]

oh @mortal ginkgo its you, have you seen my latest creation

[tropic arrow]

Why does https://www.satisfactorytools.com/ sometimes add extraneous things to the visualization diagram? Like separate flow charts involving random production chains, using zero inputs and producing zero outputs. I can ignore it but I'm curious if it's something I'm doing that is confusing the tool?

[jagged nymph]

@feral jay >>> @mortal ginkgo

[feral jay]

Exaclty

[mortal ginkgo]

brother, kek. very kek, so kek.

[jagged nymph]

boooo

[mortal ginkgo]

that imposter doesnt even have a proper profile

[real shale]

#screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

like dude, at least give it some try. I kek at you lot. Foolish mortals.

[real shale]

look at it impure limestone node

[mortal ginkgo]

LORD HAVE MERCY

[real shale]

THE SWAMP WILL BECOME ONLY CONCRETE

[glacial drum]

I hope all of that was from impure limestone infused concrete

[jagged nymph]

BRUTALISM IS AN AESTHETIC 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[real shale]

Let me get a heads up view of the whole thing right now, its beautiful

#screenshots message

at least the swamp looks better now

[jagged nymph]

do you really use a nuke nobelisk every 12 seconds ?

[bleak valley]

Covering the entire map in radars

[tall lantern]

known malarkey, it's not you. From their FAQ:

13.) I'm getting weird boxes with 0x Machine or -0x Machine that aren't connected to anything
This sometimes happens because computers are not exactly accurate when dealing with decimal numbers. You can safely ignore these boxes.

[bleak valley]

I can see everything

[feral jay]

No but I sink the extra for points

[jagged nymph]

i dont see how floating point innacuracies could possibly cause an issue on that, id love to see the spaghetti in the source code

[tall lantern]

you could ask him

[jagged nymph]

is it on guthub

probably too much code for me to look through anyway

[tall lantern]

I think the API code isn't public but he does give it out sometimes

it's probably just a simple 0.00000000000237849 sneaking in somewhere

[jagged nymph]

wait greeny made satisfactorytools.com?

i never knew that

[tall lantern]

lol yes

[feral jay]

Because working with solvers like that is hard. Ask @reef basin for details

[real shale]

okay, it is done.... i have covered the entire swamp in concrete

#screenshots message Looks beautiful when looking at the whole map

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys I got terrible news...

My one side of foundries are.. ONE NUDGE OFF.

THIS IS MADNESS. UNACCEPTABLE. HERESY ALL OVER MY WALLS!

[real shale]

maybe ill do the dunes next

cover the entirety of the dunes in just concrete

[mortal ginkgo]

speaking of concrete, did you see the new concrete look of my smelter building?

[real shale]

i did not

[mortal ginkgo]

YOU FOOL! Lemme show.

[mortal ginkgo]

#design-and-architecture message

wanted a more concrete-y look

[real shale]

looks beautiful...looks strong looks functional

[mortal ginkgo]

no u ❤️

I love looking at it from it from below, you can see my lil pioneer at bottom right

we are like.. so smol

[real shale]

Time to make 240 encased uranium cells

[inner ruin]

does anyone know roughly how many coal reactors a water extractor can suply water for

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[inner ruin]

damn 3 extractors brings enough water for 8 coal reactors. i have 30

[fierce granite]

make sure to account for how much water 1 section of pipe can support

[bleak valley]

Time for 80 coal generators

[inner ruin]

no i mean i have 30 coal reactors

[mystic wolf]

i swear, once you reach fuel generators is a completely relief

[bleak valley]

Ah

Good luck pioneer

[mystic wolf]

fr haha

[normal vale]

520+ hours on this game and I JUST figure out you can blow up boulders

Im very happy and very mad at the same time its a very odd sensation

[mystic wolf]

opsie haha

[hearty flame]

you can?

[normal vale]

yeah

like those small weird rocks that are always in your way

[hearty flame]

how?

[placid totem]

🪨 💥

like that

[hearty flame]

[placid totem]

[snow rune]

saddest factory

[real shale]

another bots about it seems

[supple canopy]

hey guys on satisfactory modeler I made this #screenshots message

Is there a way to move all this into an outpost?

yea nevermind I've been looking for two whole ass days and it's right the moment I ask on discord I discover you can cut paste 🤦‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

What are you going to cut/paste first?

A whole new world just opened up for you. One full of unlimited possibilities and all of the pasteable things

[supple canopy]

the whole thing, I wanted it to look just like this

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

woah slow down, you need to pace yourself or you'll get hurt doing too much too quickly

[bleak valley]

Entire map is now radar towered

I can see all the ore

[supple canopy]

I can see only ore*

[bleak valley]

True

[unkempt blade]

what's the best part of the map now that you know all of it?

[bleak valley]

The dune desert has a ton of basic ores but I’ll have to look over it later I got off right after finishing

[deft drum]

Yeah Dune Desert has so much copper, iron, and Limestone. And a good bit of coal around the edges and even some nitrogen up north.

Oil and the ever elusive Bauxite tho? That's more tricky

[oak stirrup]

why can't i place an oil extractor on an oil node (not a puddle, the one that gushes out oil)

do i need a seperate building for that one?

[mortal ginkgo]

that needs another late game machine

[oak stirrup]

I see

[fluid estuary]

Hey guys if I’m starting oil and I’m in the grass lands where should I go

[mortal ginkgo]

west

[unkempt blade]

It's called the plunginator and it makes a really cool sound while it plunges

[fluid estuary]

I was thinking about south east

[mortal ginkgo]

sure go ahead

[fluid estuary]

Ok

[deft drum]

South East has more broken terrain to get there and back, and also more dangerous enemies on the way

Sticking to the western shore is simpler, and also has more room to build your oil stuff

[unkempt blade]

but just think of all those sweet sweet DNA coupons

you could unlock factory carts in no time at all building in the south east

[hexed raptor]

guys what is a manifold

[tawny urchin]

I just hopped on a new game of satisfactory after a long time and I clip through like half the terrain?? What’s going on??

[deft drum]

The simplest way to load and unload multiple buildings in sequence

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Manifold

[limber cove]

I've got some miners shutting off periodically, is there a fix?
mk 3 at full overclock, nothing backing up, it just shuts down for some reason

[weak bloom]

omg I just had an idea, I'm going to make a 5x5 foundation blueprint and embed wall power outlets in it via clipping and just leave one out at the corner so it automatically takes care of giving me a grid to use the hoverpack on

[sharp basin]

Btw this one works reaaaaally well (PS5): https://youtu.be/oIwuDUSZApc?is=XwNmcoAE2FyZunJY

[spare prism]

so just build more or OC the ones you have

im making smart plates now

OC plus sloop lol

201mw of power

Damn it my fuse broke

[deft drum]

The lategame buildings when slooped and sharded laugh at that power draw

[exotic fractal]

almost done with phase 3 of the space elevator for the first time

[deft drum]

Wonder why

[exotic fractal]

:D

[spare prism]

Nah I have 1000mw being used rn by bomass the entire desert is about to be clear I cut so much down

[real shale]

so close, i can almost taste the nukes

[exotic fractal]

mmmmm

[deft drum]

Uhhh, a gigawatt of Biomass?

[exotic fractal]

nuclear war

[unkempt blade]

yeah I have a beam with wall connectors running up it to drop for hoverpack power when I'm building other stuff