satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

English is a muddled language

[next ivy]

indubitably so

[magic glade]

i like satisfactory but i dread Base Building...

[ornate saffron]

Then build a factory instead. Bases are not needed.

[magic glade]

i meant a factory lol, but just building em such a dread...im better at logistics than bulding

[next ivy]

factories are just logistic buildings 👀

[magic glade]

i cant see it that way 😅

[ember escarp]

How come its a hard pass?

[next ivy]

"cryies", "snutt" ?

[ember escarp]

I was not aware of this burn out. How come people were having burn out with vertical nuclear power plants?

[near frost]

i just played for 30h only in the past 2 days

i need help

[zenith spire]

People just overthink it. It’s easy

[ornate saffron]

Anything specific?

[dusky dagger]

That’s called efficiency

[near frost]

if only ficsit was paying me bro

i basicly have a 9 to 5

[daring scroll]

is it bad to make individual factories for each item and never borrow output from other factories?

[tall lantern]

no, it's good

[dusky dagger]

It’s good, you never run out of a resource

[near frost]

ya why not

[ornate saffron]

if I need resources another factory is using. Ill upgrade the miner and max oc it. Then put a smart splitter in front setting the line to the old factory as any

And another to overflow.

Effectively shunting the excess resources off to where I need them.

[elfin smelt]

thats a perfectly good and recomended strategy

[daring scroll]

but is it fine if i dont care to do that?

[elfin smelt]

theres even a page on the wiki about that

[ornate saffron]

Oh ya, the map is huge with more resources then the average player needs

[ornate saffron]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[daring scroll]

ty, thats good to know, it feels a lot more simplified like this

[elfin smelt]

yeah thats the whole point

I do ship my aluminum products and plastic/rubber to other factories tho

[ornate saffron]

Sometimes thats the road of least resistance.

When I get to aluminum I process a entire node of bauxite at a time.

Then just use trains to get it where needed

[zenith pecan]

Or tunnels and all the maps bauxite.

[fiery pewter]

Two ghost unreads is insane

[hollow lance]

You can find some ideas in an article titled "A Satisfactory Way of Building". I'd give a URL, but discord auto-deletes my post if I do....

[last bluff]

do people actually plan out what independent factories are making tho? usually my only goal per-node is "process it into the base component and process the byproducts" and hopefully it checks out

[stone scarab]

Lemme pull that up rq

[magic glade]

Explains the ping, just send a dm

[fiery pewter]

Yes, I do

[last bluff]

oh damn, is that even more complex to do?

[fiery pewter]

Not really

[hollow lance]

Different players, different playstyles. Personally, I have one huge main factory and satellites for obvious stuff like oil processing, aluminum processing, etc.

[mortal ginkgo]

I like having a Hub area to return to.

[white dawn]

Every factory I make starts with "I want to make x/min of Resource Y." Then I'll use whatever resources are necessary to do that (without caring if there's "extra" capacity left on nodes, etc)

[hollow lance]

Copper powder is definitely its own factory!

[last bluff]

I can't think of a vanilla recipe/chain as an example but I see potential iron, I just get the ingots at that outpost and concrete is a bonus

[hollow lance]

I always seem to want to mix in a bit of copper into my early iron production.

[last bluff]

then move all material and sort them at the destination

[jagged nymph]

ive like sort of planned out this save

i like know how much of each complicated part i need and where im gonna build stuff

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg got a plan, got purpose, got intentions

[frosty sedge]

Imagine having intentions I got pure hope

[wary sonnet]

Me with my nuclear power plant

[last bluff]

Chernobyl next to your HUB? It's more likely than you think!

[frosty sedge]

See that would be interesting

[mortal ginkgo]

the fact that Nuclear Reactors simply stop and not explode in this game is heresy

[ornate saffron]

i just build what is needed. there is a few exceptions. As stated earlier I process one bauxite node at a time. Aluminum is a resource i always tend to use lots of. Belts, packaging and so one. Another exception is power. Unless i make a specific effort not to i always over build power. It something i generally don't want to think about. I am also using a single Factory cart to move Smart plates to a Modular engines factory as i thought it would be cute
Other then that i try my best to build independent facilities.

[tough nacelle]

does anybody have ant tips on where to bluild a mega base

[last bluff]

Your explanation sounds like those are independent too

[ornate saffron]

your most likely answer will be DONT DO THAT

that being said if you are set on the idea the Dunes has the most copper and iron in the game.

[last bluff]

The desert up North(?) goes hard I'd say

[ornate saffron]

you not wrong lol.

[jagged nymph]

for a megabase it doesnt really matter too much tbh since youre importing alot of stuff from everywhere anyway, so wherever looks the coolest

[last bluff]

Word of caution: all the coolest areas are full of spiders

[ornate saffron]

Another good location would be above the Blue crater as it has a little of everything. Since the general idea of Mega base is all in one place. this would include, oil for power and byproducts

[mortal ginkgo]

this is untrue. Pink Forest in the middle is the most relaxing place ever. Pink bamboos are so cute.

I STRONGLY suggest checking them out after automating coal gens.

[pastel canopy]

Does anybody know the recommended amount of turbo fuel I should make? I want to use it for the jetpack and for energy

[last bluff]

What do you mean? You get giant enemy spiders of the radioactive variety there

[mortal ginkgo]

totally fase, people can trust me yes 🙂‍↕️

I might be an impure limestone, but my heart is PURE.

[ornate saffron]

you can play on peaceful mode and it does not effect trohpys

[jagged nymph]

you dont need much for the jetpack. Like, 5/minute is enough. As for power, start with how much power you wanna generate and work backwards from there for how much to make

[last bluff]

You can use Steam Achievement Unlocker and advanced world settings for creative mode

Why play a game if you won't suffer a panic attack from it?

[ornate saffron]

for sure. just saying the bamboo doesnt have to be stressfull

[pastel canopy]

ty

[ornate saffron]

all the game options really lets you dial in a play time that works for you.

[last bluff]

I am pro-building a base in the bamboo forest btw, even if resource allocation is a bit jank
But it certainly does have spiders

[last bluff]

Also modding makes the game even more painful which I love

[mortal ginkgo]

There ARE spiders in that forest but they are pink colored and they do not attack unless you do the first move.

[jagged nymph]

there are also big friendly spiders that bring you stuff like lizard doggos

[last bluff]

Pink coloured spiders? You mean those walking plants? I never had them attack me, only run away

[mortal ginkgo]

FINALLY SOME TRUTH GOSH!

[last bluff]

Wait you can tame them?

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes but you should be unarmed first. Or else they think you will attack and run away

[jagged nymph]

yeah if they see a gun on you or a nobelisk they run away

[last bluff]

(They did when I attacked)

[jagged nymph]

or a zapper

[ornate saffron]

you taking the piss? i had no clue lol

[last bluff]

I wish there was a better weapon than the xeno-zapper btw

[jagged nymph]

are you being so fr right now

xeno basher, rebar gun, rifle, nobelisk

[last bluff]

I guess nobelisk has some niche uses

Like blowing up rock

[mortal ginkgo]

Big dawg said nobelisk is niche 😭

[jagged nymph]

fym niche thats my main weapon and its used for clearing trees n stuff

[ornate saffron]

im a big fan of the rebar gun

[last bluff]

That's called aiming in melee distance

[jagged nymph]

but if you dont wanna use that theres the xeno basher, which is literally just an upgraded xeno zapper.

[last bluff]

Honestly, I also like shooting the birds

[last bluff]

I'd agree if it made lightsaber noises

The issue with the rebar gun btw, as the second best weapon, is that it feels so wasteful to shoot an iron worth of ammo every 2 seconds

[pale tree]

wish i didnt have to hold down the button to stay on a zipline

[ornate saffron]

you dont, the other mouse button toggles open and close

[pale tree]

no way

[ornate saffron]

im fine with it. i like scatter shot too

[stable lily]

Also next update trash ?

[ornate saffron]

not likely, apperently it has more content the 1.1

we will find out real soon

[last bluff]

Next update no golf

[stable lily]

🤔 no more Infos 😢 i will more ress, item, better logistic ❤️

[ornate saffron]

we get full patch notes with Experimental on St pattys day

[white dawn]

What would make you think that, btw?

[tall lantern]

1. I have 1.1
2. I don't have 1.2
3. so 1.1 is better than 1.2 right now
4. as per the internet, anything that's not the best is trash

[jagged nymph]

when is 1.2 coming out anyway

[hollow lance]

On experimental on March 17

[jagged nymph]

ah ok

so about 2 weeks

[hollow lance]

I hope they fix the "enemies retaliate" game setting. Right now, it seems the same as "passive".

[jagged nymph]

i was wondering why nothing was fighting back even though i had it on retaliate

[hollow lance]

And, a search bar for the inventory, dammit!

[jagged nymph]

ive never needed an inventory search tbh

[jagged nymph]

for what purpose

[bleak valley]

The inventory isn’t that large

[hollow lance]

Mostly for dumping stuff into containers.

[jagged nymph]

ig but its not that hard to jsut look at your inventory

[bleak valley]

If you hit control and right click it moves all of that item type at once

Or left click

[hollow lance]

And, for checking what I got before taking a trek. Then again, the depot makes that mostly unnecessary.

[bleak valley]

I forget

[hollow lance]

I'm playing the SF+ mod which doubles (at least) the number of types of items.

[elfin smelt]

I use inventory abreviation symbols

the accesibility setting (idk the actual setting name)

it really helps finding the item I want

[hollow lance]

Before depots, I like to have a mini mall. When I open a container, it would be nice to see how much of the matching item I have without eyeballing the entire inventory.

Or, maybe when you open a container, it could be like when you open a machine - you get a row of boxes at the top of the inventory that matches what the machine/container uses.

[jagged nymph]

now that would be a good idea

whats strange is what a machine makes shows up in the related section even though you cant deposit it into the machine

[ornate frost]

I have discovered the miracle that is hypertube cannons

[white dawn]

You can manually drag stuff into the output buffer, btw. :)

[ornate saffron]

Vomit cannons.

[bleak valley]

You can also drag liquids out of the output and trash them to clean it out quickly

Scoop out that toxic liquid with your hands pioneer it’s safe

[sick falcon]

i always thought it was just so you could see how much you have

[ornate saffron]

4, it was only bad when one was sick.

Its 2026

69 is out

6 7 is in

[abstract heron]

OH THAT STUPID 67 MEME I HATE

[near mural]

6777

[abstract heron]

😭

[near mural]

aside from hypertube cannons what do you guys use to traverse the map between factories?

[reef basin]

trains. Never cannons

[bleak valley]

Ziplines :D but my factories are really close currently

[near mural]

idk why the idea of riding a train in satisfactory never occured to me

[near mural]

thats what im using rn but my oil and soon my computer and hmf are a tad too far for them to be convient anymore </3

[bleak valley]

Trains are pretty fast yeah

I doubt anything beats a cannon though since it’s not exactly intended

[jagged nymph]

but its not gonna be removed

[reef basin]

exactly why I don't want to use them

[jagged nymph]

so is it really a bug 🤔

[reef basin]

you never know

[near mural]

cannons are fun in the moment but i like having infrastructure that allows me to move between factories

[jagged nymph]

the devs have acknowldged it and kept it in

on purpose

[abstract heron]

[reef basin]

the devs also said we'll never get pipes 🤷

[zenith pecan]

Cannons are also performance sensitive, relying on them is a poor move.

[eager palm]

I mean, hypertubes are still pretty fast even if you never go airborne. Just put entrances occasionally to bump speed.

[jagged nymph]

true but i doubt theyd say they arent gonna remove something and then remove it. Especially a feature loved by the community and it literally doesnt hurt anyone

[reef basin]

or they could rework it into actual feature

[jagged nymph]

maybe

[zenith pecan]

Add actual tube accelerators would be nice, but I'm close to being well past it with the teleport network awaiting sing cells (again)

[eager palm]

Can a jump pad into a single hypertube segment cause a reasonable launch?

[sick falcon]

what do i do with all my slugs now that i have automated power shards

[simple pebble]

Give them a home

[cunning glade]

Morning chat

[zenith pecan]

I house them inside a constructor.

[cunning glade]

Question how do y'all go about decorating

[fiery pewter]

Not

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message Throw em on a looping belt

[fiery pewter]

I genuinely lack the creativity

[cunning glade]

Cuz I wanna start decorating and I find learning what other people do is super helpful in this game also yeah I should check out screenshots

[sick falcon]

i like scaffolding, beams, pillars, and walkways, kind of like an oil rig vibe

[ornate saffron]

Its a process that has changed over time.

Back when I started i just added pillars and such to add depth to boxes.

Then I went through a industrial revolution phase when everything was from the frame pack

[glacial drum]

Beefy do yk anything about the object limit on console

[ornate saffron]

Ive read its around 1million with no way to change it.

[glacial drum]

Def can’t make my 1 tw setup then

[cunning glade]

That's another thing I wanna delete my hoverpack for a bit and start adding catwalks

[glacial drum]

Actually it should only take 10k batteries so it should be fine..

[cunning glade]

So my factorys are traverseable

[ornate saffron]

Honestly a power priority switches with no power storage would save on the most objects.

[glacial drum]

Forgot each storage isn’t 1 building for 1 kwh

[ornate saffron]

On pc I changed my object limit to 4mil long ago

[cunning glade]

Yeah I maxed that forever ago and haven't looked back

Ran into issues after 200h hours

[glacial drum]

Do yk if the limit counts just machines or walls & stuff?

I think I should be fine building the 1 TW storage.. If I’m not well.. that’ll be unfortunate

[ornate saffron]

Every object you place. Including machines, foundations belts beams

Floor holes

[glacial drum]

First I have to build a 333 mod frame/min factory

[ornate saffron]

Pure iron i take it

[glacial drum]

It’s my last of 3 factories aiming to make enough materials to be able to place 1 TW of power storages within 5 hours give or take

[glacial drum]

Pure iron into solid steel and some steeled frames

Also using stitched plates.

Tbf I could do it off of just iron. I wonder what that’ll look like

[abstract heron]

i have to build 82.4 pressure conversion cubes per minute and just did alumin for it

[ornate saffron]

Totalxclips did a video where he processed all the iron in the dunes in one facility.
I imagine its like that

Spoiler that one facility reached the object limit

[glacial drum]

Think I’m gonna run the math on that now tbh. I thought I’d run it off both coal, iron, and copper to not need to use more than a t6 belt in any spot but even with what I have now the wire itself will require more than 1

[fiery pewter]

It will, req_wire_ more than one?

[abstract heron]

LOL if i want to do 76.5 Nulcear pasta per minute

[fiery pewter]

Absolutely crazy

[abstract heron]

36900 copper per minute

[fiery pewter]

Holy

[jagged nymph]

im gonna do like 4 nuclear pasta

[fiery pewter]

I was planning like 20

[abstract heron]

but i have 82.4min pressure conservion cubes that i have to play with

[fiery pewter]

That's more than 10.000 pure copper refineries if my math is correct

[abstract heron]

Thats why 100% of copper on the WHOLE map

[jagged nymph]

you did your math wrong

[abstract heron]

2640 ref

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[glacial drum]

No way in hell I’m doing purely iron. Holy that’ll take much more work for the same product

[abstract heron]

i have done all PURE refeinrys of iron copper and limestone in Dune Desert

[abstract heron]

DO IT its fun 😛

[fiery pewter]

Leached iron better than pure iron in terms of ore and water usage

[ornate saffron]

Ya i did all the iron and copper in rhe dunes using pure once. Never agian

[glacial drum]

faster belts in 1.2 when

[fiery pewter]

No

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg got copper PTSD 😭

[glacial drum]

I feel atp it would break the damn engine

[white dawn]

I believe that things like foundations (and presumably walls) are now "lightweight objects" which don't consume UObjects in the same way that other stuff does, btw

[abstract heron]

my world is at 4,954hr

[ornate saffron]

Good to know

[white dawn]

I'm not sure what exaclty got moved into that newer system though

(I put "lightweight objects" in quotes as if that was the exact term; it's possible I've gotten the term wrong slightly. :D)

[fiery pewter]

They probably won't do faster than 1200/min, because we do not need it for a singular machine

[glacial drum]

Do we need 1200/min for a machine currently??

[ornate saffron]

Its the problem with games under constant development. You info falls behind lol

[fiery pewter]

Like, fully overclocked mk3 miners on a pure node

[glacial drum]

Ah

[fiery pewter]

1200 ore /min

And the rest is like

No

[ornate saffron]

Screws 😛

[white dawn]

Aha, there we go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIKjR5jVv9Y&t=373s

[glacial drum]

Im gonna run an anti screw campaign in my save

[fiery pewter]

Lol same

I once calculated a system that would need 11.4k screws per minute

[ornate saffron]

Thankyou I'll try to get to this

My acu factory used a lot of screws and wires.

[charred slate]

guys i think i have a problem so my friend sent me satisfactory but i dont thinks its the real one is there a way to still use this one with multiplayer or should i get from steam or epic

[fiery pewter]

Wdym the real one

Pirated copy?

[charred slate]

yes

i think so

[mortal ginkgo]

his friend has set sails in far, distance and dangerous seas

[glacial drum]

I can make the same result of 333 mf/min with less than 1/3 of the damn machines if i don’t use only pure iron

[charred slate]

because my friend that im try to play with now says that i dont come up that i own the game

[ornate saffron]

Not a flex, I just used the recipes that make sense

[charred slate]

but it works can i still use multi

[fiery pewter]

You will need the real copy. Game devs implement hidden features that know when the game is pirated

That make it unplayable

[charred slate]

then why does it still work

[fiery pewter]

You need either some steam stuff or epic stuff to go multi

[white dawn]

Just buy the game; talk about pirated/cracked copies isn't allowed here. :)

[fiery pewter]

Spring sale soon

[ornate saffron]

Going into a official discord essentially saying you have a pirated copy is a ballsy move.

The game is worth paying for.

[charred slate]

im not sure if it is how to send image

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots , but I'd take everyone's advice

[charred slate]

im wondering because its in a shared account like family

can you tell me if it is?

[cunning glade]

Question if I'm going back too a rubber loop cuz I wanna turn everything into blenders can't I leave the refineries making the plastic and rubber alone?

[white dawn]

That's almost certainly pirated; it's a very old version

[charred slate]

oh okay that figures

thank you allot guys

im gonna get it now see ya soon

[real wolf]

I'm making 6gw and I need 18gw for my new power plant to work

[white dawn]

If you're not launching the game quite obviously from Steam or EGS, it's not valid. You can get "gifted' games via Steam (and presumably EGS), and there's Family Sharing stuff, yeah, but it would be quite obvious that you're getting it "officially" through the official clients

[ornate saffron]

Its a preference but I like steam for mutliplayer

[glacial drum]

You could either jumpstart your grid with some BB or other methods.. Or you could setup some power storage to store excess power and then release it to jumpstart the plant

[charred slate]

steam or epic games?

do i get it with steam or epic

[ornate saffron]

I prefer steam

[near mural]

epic games sucks butt cheeks

[white dawn]

Whichever you want; it's the same game either way

[real wolf]

I'm gonna have about 18gw of power storage, dw

[charred slate]

its cuz i have like 3 euro cuppon

[white dawn]

Let's not get into another Storefront Argument here

[glacial drum]

Epic games is only used for fkin free games and fortnite atp dude

[sick falcon]

i heard that you shouldnt route more than 2 drones to a single port

why is that

[glacial drum]

Because drones are selfish

And territorial.

[charred slate]

ima do steam thanks guys

[near mural]

if its a game i play alot id rather buy it on steam than play it for free on epic tbh

[charred slate]

fair

[ornate saffron]

Like me circulating the rump roast at the buffet

[white dawn]

You can do it; as with anything in the game it just helps to understand the behavior. The main potential problem is that a drone delivering material will wait at the port if it can't fully unload; it won't leave until it's fully unloaded. So two drones delivering material to the same port could end up having to wait around

Whether that's actually problematic for the transfer you're doing is, of course, another question

[untold zealot]

... Should I route my existing Modular frames and Steel beam production into Versatile Frameworks, or build it all from the ground up? I can never tell how much the "earlier" stuff will be used in the future D:

[white dawn]

For situations where you're having drones pick up material from the same port, there shouldn't be contention issues apart from potentially waiting for the lengthy landing/takeoff sequences

For instance many folks will have "fuel depots" which remote drone sites use to grab fuel for the other drones to use. For that situation you'd have potentially dozens of drones configured to grab fuel from the same port

But because they're just picking up material, there's rarely any contention

[ornate saffron]

Most phase parts feed into a another phase part. If that helps

[whole robin]

How much power would a blender clocked at 200% with full sloopage use

[lost rapids]

Hello chat

[cunning glade]

Chat plz?

[white dawn]

Sloops quadruple energy usage, and doubling with shards would a-bit-more-than-double the power requirement. So multiply by like 9 from the standard clock and you won't be far off

[ornate saffron]

You can just build it and see

[charred slate]

yo guys i got it now

and you were right that one was a pirate

[cunning glade]

I haven't done blender stuff in so long

[fiery pewter]

Nice

[cunning glade]

I think I just need too get rid of the packagers and the refineries for them

And replace them all with blenders

[charred slate]

check screenshots yayaya

[ornate saffron]

I would just do a different setup else where.

[near mural]

unlimited games but no games

[cunning glade]

With what oil on the map lol

[charred slate]

the worst part is multiplayer works with it but i dont wanna be doing all that for a game

[glacial drum]

187.5*2=375 Mw I believe

[ornate saffron]

Spire coast in north west coast and blue crater all have lots of oil

[charred slate]

no one i know plays it xD

[whole robin]

I'm still working on making heavy modular frames for adaptive control units

[ornate saffron]

The only friends that matter are cats

[zenith pecan]

Spire coast 😜

[cunning glade]

I have under 1k oil left on the map

[ornate saffron]

The newest post in memes hits hard

#satisfactory-memes message

[cunning glade]

I'm making 3k plastic with this node but it's not running well cuz it's a loop

[ornate saffron]

Plenty

[dark trellis]

is the interactive map website fully accurate? doesnt seem to be

[glacial drum]

Setup a backup vip junction for emergencies?

[cunning glade]

So I wanna replace it with blenders but I think I can keep refineries that are making plastic

[jagged nymph]

yes it is

[dark trellis]

i cant find a sam node that its displaying

[ornate saffron]

I find it to be

[dark trellis]

are they in some weird locations?

[glacial drum]

Have you checked in caves

[ornate saffron]

Are caves turned on

[jagged nymph]

its underground then

[dark trellis]

ah, i didnt even know i could access underground

[hazy sable]

which? did you check https://satisfactory.th.gl/ ?

[glacial drum]

Go down to layers and select caves

[jagged nymph]

a cave

[rugged stratus]

Im automating almost all items, but I do it in separate factories, is that the correct way on playing?

[dark trellis]

i checked satisfactory-calculator.com

[jagged nymph]

if thats how you want to do it yes. Theres no correct way to play

[white dawn]

The only correct way of playing is to make sure you're having fun. :)

[dark trellis]

so is there a reliable way to find cave entrances?

[cunning glade]

By under I mean like maybe 300 or it's like 150 left

[jagged nymph]

the interavtive map

[ornate saffron]

The correct way is the way you enjoy.

But it is a strategy

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[rugged stratus]

If I have to automate nuclear pasta, I start over from the ores, and if I have to automate singularity cells I start over from the ores

wouldnt that cost a lot of ore nodes?

[dark trellis]

idk, i cant seem to see anything about entrances

[jagged nymph]

if you want to do it that way sure

[jagged nymph]

click caves

[white dawn]

No more so than if you'd tried to centralize stuff instead. It's the same amount of Factory either way; just if you do it separately you're doing it in bits

Keep in mind that no matter what build strategy you're using, you're never bound to follow it religiously

I'm kind of constantly advocating for Independency (basically what you're already describing), but even I don't follow it precisely all the time

And just 'cause you've been building in a certain way up to a point doesn't mean you've gotta keep on building that way if you're feeling differently about stuff later. :)

[rugged stratus]

So, if I have to automate nuclear pasta, there is no problem at all rebuiling the RCU factory? I already have one producing 20 RCU / min

[jagged nymph]

not at all, i mean i would just take some from that factory, but thats just my preference

[white dawn]

Sure, no problem with that. I actually prefer doing that because it generally means I get to play around with various different alt recipes, in different corners of the maps, etc.

Looks like on my 1.0 playthrough I was producing RCUs in three different factories

[ornate saffron]

I also do this.

Although I always state its a sandbox. Most of my gains as a player is by doing and failing at the things I was told not to do lol

So I just make recommendations and support the choices they make

[rugged stratus]

if I take it from that factory then I will have an empty dimensional depot

[jagged nymph]

well dont take all 20

[white dawn]

(lol, although glancing at my 1.0-playthrough factory plans, it looks like I had an identical factory chain for all three of those RCU factories, so I wasn't being especially diverse there. Ah well!)

[rugged stratus]

that's smart

[glacial drum]

You could also begin to overproduce by a bit and sink/store any excess advanced items to build future infrastructure with when needed. However I’ve found I enjoy making entirely new factories for nearly everything myself.

[white dawn]

I seem to think that my second RCU factory was actually built right on top of my first one, using the exact same resource nodes, since I hadn't actually exhausted any of the nodes

[jagged nymph]

you dont need a ton of rcus in the depot anyway

[rugged stratus]

I might use all the caterium nodes just for quickwire

[glacial drum]

You’re gonna need a lot of belts

[rugged stratus]

I mean, im aiming on getting all items automated separately and on the depot

[weak bloom]

How many automated heavy modular frames is too many? I'm seeing the number of nodes in the desert and considering setting up another big production line of them there

[rugged stratus]

u know from experience?

[weak bloom]

I have 11.75 producing now

[glacial drum]

Quickwire is a large large item to transport

[rugged stratus]

I guess if you start producing them over 200/min it's a big too much

[rugged stratus]

drones / trains / trucks

[untold zealot]

Argh. Whomever decided that a Miner requires Portable miners to build - I hope you stub your little toe or step on a lego!

[white dawn]

"Max HMF" with resource conversion is 3553.5/min, so 3554/min would be Too Many. :)

[weak bloom]

I just drop an equipment workshop and craft a stack when I run out

[jagged nymph]

its never too many unless youre using so many materials that you cant produce enough of other stuff

[rugged stratus]

I automated portable miners

[jagged nymph]

why?

they are super easy to automate

[rugged stratus]

fr took me 2 hours

[white dawn]

Yeah, like Shaddyy said, there's an alt recipe which lets you fully automate Portable Miners. As of 1.0 it's a nice simple Assembler recipe, to boot! Get that going and send 'em into a Depot; then you'll never have to think about 'em again.

(Portable Miners are also used lategame to construct drones, fwiw)

[untold zealot]

Sure, but I dont need that many (yet) :D

[jagged nymph]

just automate like 1/m or something like this is literally a non issue

[rugged stratus]

there is no "that many" I have 1500 assembly director systems

[glacial drum]

You can make 750k qw from the basic qw recipe I think

[thorny glacier]

I have no idea what I’m doing in this game

[magic glade]

i was given a good article for satisfactory, OSA FUCKED ME!

[jagged nymph]

its literally just 4 steel pipes/m and 4 iron plates/m just use the iron pipe recipe and there you go. Youre using like 20 iron ore per minute and you never have to hand craft them again

[white dawn]

Yeah, the Automated Miner recipe is a 1/min output anyway. Even that rate is overkill, really, but it's a trivial amount of Steel Pipe and Iron Plate, so eh. Could underclock it to consume even less, though, if you like. :D

[glacial drum]

I make like 10 PM/min I think

Can run it off a single iron node

[rugged stratus]

just use iron pipe and u will do it in 1 node

[glacial drum]

Rlly simple and ez to setup

[white dawn]

(Automated Miner recipe tweak + stackable Portable Miners + Dimensional Depot) from v1.0 is probably my favorite QoL the game's ever gotten. :D

[ornate saffron]

I just hand craft a stack of portable miners while I poop. Then shove that in my depot

[white dawn]

(Though honestly I think it's stackability that's the main "win" there)

[autumn path]

i just hand craft like 100 at a time then i am good for like 50 hours of play time

[rugged stratus]

how long can a train be?

[jagged nymph]

infinite afaik

[near mural]

its so tempting to sloop and handfeed space elevator parts but i know ill need them later </3

[autumn path]

oh yea i forgot in .6 they didn't stack

[white dawn]

Freight cars have weight (and get heavier as you load more stuff onto them) and a single Locomotive has a set amount of acceleration power. On perfectly-flat rail you can technically get away with (as A350 Enjoyer said) effectively infinite train length if you don't mind really slow accelerations.

[jagged nymph]

just add more locomotives though (1 per 4 train cars)

[white dawn]

If you've got inclines and such, though, one commonly-stated recommendation is a 4:1 ratio of freight cars to locomotives. I believe that even with fully-loaded freight cars that's enough acceleration to get them up any rail incline that the game lets you lay down

[rugged stratus]

oka

[white dawn]

Though you can always add more Locomotives to the train to provide more acceleration power, if your trains are struggling on hills or you just want 'em to get up to speed more quickly

(More Locomotives does not mean a faster top speed; it only affects the acceleration power)

[glacial drum]

I stand majorly corrected. Only 37,500.

[ornate saffron]

@round pollen build

[rugged stratus]

is it a good thing that Im using 44% of the sam in the world for 50,4 uranium fuel rods?

[round pollen]

true

[glacial drum]

It all depends on the situation. Are you gonna use sam for other things? If so then using the least possible per project is good yes. If not then using the most per project wouldn’t hurt

[rugged stratus]

nah, I would use sam only for ficsite ingots and trigons, and I already have them automated

[open crescent]

Real. Can just make stairs of foundation like I usually do to climb a mountain

[ornate saffron]

Sometimes you get so deep into the woods you can't feel the forest through the trees

[weak bloom]

I just build an infinite ladder upwards lmao

[stable lily]

I see only camera Updates 😆 not really good New 🤔 ress, or others. And this ist a ask with trash

[hollow lance]

Then use the parachute...

[open crescent]

Oo yeah, easy to do with conveyor stacks

Funnier with the lookout towers though. I have a stupid lookout tower ladder in my world and I love it

[hollow lance]

I make all my trains have only one freight car. And, every consumer gets a dedicated train. Wait time on the consumer is "until empty" or 900 seconds. Producers are set for 60 seconds. Works really well for me. But, I think I might be in the minority on using one car trains.

[white dawn]

I find it difficult to parse most of what you said, but if your complaint is that we don't know what's gonna be in the release yet, that's just because we don't know what's gonna be in the release yet.

That is not unusual; CSS generally keeps things to themselves until the actual release dates are closer, and the March 17 date is only on the experimental branch; not a full public release.

You'll only have access to "v1.2" on March 17 if you're willing to help beta-test the forthcoming update

[west jackal]

i hope 32GW is enough to get to nitro

[white dawn]

Can always build out more, if not! :D But yeah, I'd think that'd be more than enough

[west jackal]

i wanna do a massive aluminum plant, but need to setup some RCU to get blenders

[white dawn]

Though as always, it depends on how "big" you build. :)

[simple pebble]

Yeah that should easily do it unless you're going crazy big

[west jackal]

i was using 12GW to finish phase 3, and that was without automating elevator parts

i just built the 20gw, although i can build it pretty quick with the blueprints i setup

[glacial drum]

Now that I have 100% re9 I can finally get back to satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

How long did that take you

[west jackal]

i finally gave in and tried 1:1:1 dpf, and made a blueprint with 2 refineries and 2 packagers, so it takes 30 crude and makes 80 fuel 🙂

[glacial drum]

4 1/2 playthroughs at 33 hours in total

[ornate saffron]

Ill stick games i can get 1000 plus hours from lol .

Ill get re9 on sale for $10

[glacial drum]

I don’t see it going on sale for a looong while especially not that low

[west jackal]

so all i have to do after placing 2 blueprints (1 for the generators that take all the fuel and the other for the refineries) i just hook the pipe to the generator inlet, hook up water (2 extractors for every 3 blueprints) and add in the crude which easily scales off any maxed crude node (took inspo from beefy here)

[ornate saffron]

Im okay eith this.

Shapez is $2 right now.

[cold berry]

I'm sick of doing throughput calculations and load analysis at work factory. I want to go home and do throughput calculations and load analysis on my factory I run on my computer for fun. 🙁

[ornate saffron]

I work at a warehouse..... doi g inventory management.

I feel ya

[cold berry]

At least I'm a team lead. I cheer myself up by saying hey, at least I have an interest in it. (I genuinely like setup for instance, I get to tinker)

[west jackal]

hey you need to sensor the T word

[cold berry]

But it's funny to be doing the programmer "I want to stop looking at bad screen and go home to look at Good screen"

[cold berry]

Is tinker a swear now or are you doing a bit?

[west jackal]

yes its a swear word! stop saying it! smh

[last bluff]

What's the worst location to build your primary base and HUB?

[west jackal]

middle of the ocean?

[cold berry]

I go home and I tinker with my macerators

Try to stop me

[west jackal]

oh heavens

[last bluff]

OK minus out of bounds then, what's the worst?

[west jackal]

i will summon the gatekeeping 3d printer community on your ass

[ornate saffron]

I move my hub to where my current focus is and I dont have a primary facility

[west jackal]

may have beena bit

[west jackal]

how often do you move hub

[cold berry]

Same, but I do have a storage base which is kinda like a hub. But that's more for logistics, that bitch moves with me

[cold berry]

Often enough that I keep 20 iron ore on me at all times lol

[ornate saffron]

Depends. Im at blue crater atm making a monster phase 3 factory.

[last bluff]

Blue Crater goes hard

So really no worst place?

[untold zealot]

Ok, building in the "air" is starting to drive me bonkers. If I want to attack a Splitter to a Conveyer Lift up high, what's the easiest method? Because when I try, the game attaches the splitter on top of the Lift, which doesn't work

[cold berry]

"Well yes, but actually, no" imagine I'm allowed to post the meme here

[west jackal]

how monster is monster?

[last bluff]

Anyway I hate the swamp personally

[west jackal]

you got tool link

[fiery pewter]

Place the splitter first with vertical nudging

[cold berry]

I like swamp. Call me crazy. Yeah I need the nobelisks but like, it isn't that bad. But I think swamps are pretty so that may just be me.

It's a challenge but like, that's why I play games

[untold zealot]

Right, I can do That!... what's vertical nudging?

[cold berry]

Page up, page down

Allows you to move the part a little at a time up and down

[untold zealot]

Erh, that does nothing in my game

[last bluff]

I love screws

[cold berry]

I constantly forget it exists lol

[low ingot]

Brother, there the worst to keep up with wyn

[cold berry]

So I haven't actually used it yet

[fiery pewter]

H first to lock the item

[low ingot]

Cast screws is almost a need, not a want

[fiery pewter]

Then you can nudge

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

#design-and-architecture message

[untold zealot]

Ooooooooooooooooooooooh

[last bluff]

Screws ❤️

[glacial drum]

Placed a good 100 nukes on the landscape and then threw one directly onto a spitter on accident.. it proceeded to suicide bomb me and now none of the old nukes detonate.. sigh..

[west jackal]

gorgeous! I love those arches

[last bluff]

Spitter Strangelove self-nuke is funny

[west jackal]

need to figure out how to make vertical circle arches

[untold zealot]

Ok, cool! I'm super annoyed the game doesn't feature better ingame tutorials showing how the player can build, but luckily legends like @fiery pewter and @cold berry exist. Thanks!

[west jackal]

? they give you the things and its a sandbox game

[ornate saffron]

The lower part is just ore processing. The box in the background is the actual factory. 2
⅔ done

[west jackal]

minecraft doesnt show you how to build a home, terraria doesnt tell you anything, why would sat?

[bleak valley]

A majority of the buttons are on screen too

[west jackal]

wow, i really need to setup trains, idk why but they stress me out

[ornate saffron]

Well the user interface has tells you most of your options and the bottom right hand gives you key hotkeys

[last bluff]

Satisfactory is a wiki game confirmed?

[west jackal]

i mean..

its as much of a wiki game as minecraft?

[last bluff]

Hell no lol

[west jackal]

yea?

i look at sat wiki WAY more than minecraft wiki

[last bluff]

Satisfactory does a much better job at explaining and railroading

[west jackal]

dude i agree

[last bluff]

It also makes mods much easier since pressing o works so well

[west jackal]

i was pointing out that sat is a sandbox game and better than the other 2 games

[ornate saffron]

The in game tools give you all most the information you need. You can even search for a part and adjust numbers

[last bluff]

Yes that

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message Would yall pave over the top of the hole the water and coal is in or just bring it up and pave over elsewhere in a factory like this? I’m gonna need over 300 machines

[last bluff]

Meanwhile good luck making a pickaxe in Minecraft for the longest time without outside help

[glacial drum]

I think it’s gonna have to be a multi floor factory but I’ll probably process the pure iron outside of it

[weak bloom]

Yeah tbh I just use the wiki because it's a bit more convenient to click between items when looking at multiple recipe requirements.
But all the information is available in game

And doing clock math is even easier in game because you just drop a machine and tweak it, or do it in the codex

[static prism]

can anyone help me figure out why my coal mine and my whole grid just keeps shuting off im new only have 3 coal mines

[west jackal]

wut

the crafting book/achievement system guide you to enchant table, you can make a eff4 unb3 fortune3 pickaxe with one lucky roll, thats without using anvil.

again i agree, satisfactory is better

no question

[last bluff]

Crafting book is relatively new, and achievements/advancements don't explicitly mention the requirements

[west jackal]

relatively... its been around for many years. but i see what you mean.

[last bluff]

And even right now, good luck finding out how to make a nether portal on your own, when the rare ruined portal is the closest to semblence

[untold zealot]

I'm mostly here to build cool factories, but I feel like I'm fighting the actual placement of the smaller things more than anything else. I did the weirdest early game factories until someone suggested I try the whole Manifold Split/Merge thing, which really helped me stick with it when I was frankly close to just giving up due to the spaghetti belts :D

[west jackal]

the book was added 9 years ago...

[white dawn]

Satisfactory's Codex (n or o to search/open, respectively) is an extremely handy feature that many folks don't really realize exists

[west jackal]

placing things on foundations/using straight belt placement mode makes things look a lot cleaner

[last bluff]

Oh that's actually half the game's existence then

[orchid zinc]

Do you need straight roads for trucks and tractors?

[static prism]

can anyone help me with my COAL MINE its not working right im new to the game

[last bluff]

Wait how did they not figure out how to also add brewing and explain anvils better in those 9 years?

[weak bloom]

In fairness I feel that if the game deliberately guided you towards manifolds it would be against the spirit of the genre.
Manifolds are not the only way to organize and distribute inputs. It's just a very common and convenient way.

[ornate saffron]

They work well on dirt too

[white dawn]

No. I actually advise against building roads for vehicles. Negates one of the main advantages of using them (ie: very little infrastructure required)

Using the map's "natural" roads does kind of limit the kinds of routes you can make with vehicles, but IMO the tradeoff's worth it

That said, a lot of folks just enjoy building roads. So if you're gonna have fun doing it, go for it. :)

[west jackal]

anvils are self explanatory i think... brewing definately tho. brewing is a pain if you dont know what youre doing (although vanilla tweaks resource pack adds a brewing recipe graphic to the table)

[untold zealot]

Totally fair! I'm happy there exists external resources (Like asking in discord) though :D

[west jackal]

load balancers are really cool! they just take more brain power, but they look way cooler! and are kinda needed for low throughput like nuclear

[last bluff]

Both are much easier with a previous playthrough, modifications or the wiki yes... (I hope you see why I called resource packs modding, that is more to compare it to other games)

Then you have Satisfactory where you can just keep going and be fine

[weak bloom]

But yeah that's kinda why I would disagree with the idea that the game doesn't tell you enough. It tells you plenty for how to actually manufacture stuff and use machines, shows you the recipes, and then solving the logistical part is up to you.
Which, well, is the entire point of the game, really xD

[west jackal]

Ink I want to be very clear. I agreed with you from the start. I used minecraft and terraria as an example of widely adored sandbox games that explain LESS than sat 🙂

[last bluff]

Oh oops

[weak bloom]

The satisfactory wiki is more of a recipe reference than anything else. All other "external" resources are more along the lines of ideas or suggestions on implementation methods, not finding required information to play the game

[last bluff]

I really, REALLY misunderstood that

[west jackal]

You are good, sometimes i dont phrase things right and come across wrong!

I love all 3 of the games, but sat is BY FAR my favorite

[ornate saffron]

Look in #1038092680493801533 for other threads about this subject. If none fits your needs make a new post.

No need to channel hop posting everywhere

[west jackal]

i cant wait for them to add DLC/new map or sat 2 with completely new recipes >:D

[last bluff]

Satisfactory does go hard, I can't wait until they release golf

[west jackal]

id be fine with similiar infastructure just slightly different because its a different planet so buildings look different or different resources are available

(like subnautica/below zero/2)

[untold zealot]

That said I think I also just need to get used to that Satisfactory sort of expects the player to clip things and that things will look chaotic. I actually haven't played Minecraft or Terraria, so Satisfactory is my first "logistics" game (I'm more used to stuff like Anno)

[west jackal]

uh, it doesnt expect things to clip?

my stuff doesnt look chaotic? (most of the time)

[untold zealot]

... It doesn't? I feel I keep getting the yellow warning all the time

[weak bloom]

You know what's funny, I never really got into Minecraft and I think part of the issue was when it first came out I wasn't about that life of "how in the hell do I even DO anything"
Crafting felt like "stick 2 random things into the bench and see what comes out" if you weren't looking up recipes, and like, there's a place for that kind of discovery gameplay in a sandbox, but more often than not it's just the first wave of players who enjoy the discovery and then it becomes a solved wiki game for anyone who comes after

[last bluff]

Yellow and even red is fun for stuff with weird hitboxes where it clearly doesn't clip

[weak bloom]

So at that point why bother continue to obfuscate stuff like recipes, the point should be what you do with the sandbox not figuring out how to make all the pieces out of information you're not given

[west jackal]

#screenshots message
This is a small power plant i made in an hour or 2 last night

[last bluff]

Minecraft is actually trying to not have that stuff obfuscated which makes it worse if anything

[ornate saffron]

Clean

[west jackal]

there were like 2 yellow warnings even though stuff doesnt actually clip, it just goes through the hitbox without actually going through it

[next ivy]

only with recent updates

[west jackal]

Thank you!

when i get hoverpack im going to go back and add some buildings around it to make it look nicer

[untold zealot]

That's super cool, but I think you also have prooobably a few more hours in Satisfactory that I do :D. I've also heard I can unlock a Jetpack later, which'll really help out

[west jackal]

yea i guess youre right, i liked building big farms and learning redstone

[west jackal]

yes jetpack is t5, and yes ive been playing since 2019

i only have like 1200 hours i think? but most of those were from more than 2 years ago (before the games full release)

and my first 600 hours were all spaghetti

[last bluff]

I love Satisfactory as the 3d factory game but damn do I love Minecraft modded as the 3d factory game

It's oddly similar

[untold zealot]

I mean even now after only 15 hours I look at my first factories still standing and go "Huh, what was I thinking" as I keep learning (and unlocking options) how to route things. The learning curve is just slightly frustrating at times, is all :)

[west jackal]

but to be fair! that was before they added the straight belt mode, so i had to learn how to do 90 degree turns

[orchid zinc]

Does it make sense to have a production line of each and every part and store them? Im noticing the issue with that being i have an overflow of various part which could be used for more advanced components.

[west jackal]

im glad you seem to be enjoying it atleast, if you need help there are always people here to help! I just didnt want anyone disparaging the game 😛

[last bluff]

Fluid mechanics

[west jackal]

Thats what I do, other than the parts you dont need, but i dont know that its worth

[west jackal]

... yeah fluid mechanics are annoying

i still struggle sometimes getting my fluids to flow right...

[weak bloom]

Not super basic stuff like ingots but you will consistently need more or less every other component in the game

[west jackal]

again though, i had 300 hours prior to fluids being a thing, it used to be that oil pumped out of the ground in a barrel

[next ivy]

damn

they should go back to that

[west jackal]

LOL

[weak bloom]

Must use factory carts to pick up the barrels and bring them to a facility

[west jackal]

no the game is much better now

[ornate saffron]

More then me

[west jackal]

im bad though beef. i spent most of that doing the same thing. one big flat platform. no asthetics. nothing

AND IVE NEVER FINISHED THE GAME

because most of those hours there was no finish, or use for SAM, Mercer, Sloops

[ornate saffron]

I've seen credits 7 times. I need to show down. That's what I'm doing now

[west jackal]

i have never even finished phase 4 parts

they got added during one of my last playthroughs but ended up restarting before i finished

[west jackal]

for now im still sinking the polymer, but only because i dont need the plastic/rubber/fabric rn

[ornate saffron]

This is the way

[simple pebble]

Yeah I've had to force myself to play slower

[west jackal]

i really liked my dpf blueprint

[ornate saffron]

Im only on phase 3 and I've exceeded the time of two complete runs. So I am succeeding

[simple pebble]

Installed plus so I couldn't get away with my usual habit of planning a factory for a whole phase at once and then squishing it in willy-nilly

Oh awesome!

[west jackal]

i feel slighted by ADA]

"Did you know the average pioneer can optimize fluid throughput"

[ornate saffron]

Thats her energy.

[west jackal]

i know... it makes me feel a certain way 😏

shit i can unlock blenders without unlocking bauxite refinment from stuff ive picked up exploring

gonna get hoverpack instead

[coral marsh]

blenders are awesome, i love using them

[west jackal]

shoot @ornate saffron i didnt know nitro was after nuclear

i guess its not after "clean" nuclear

[coral marsh]

nitro rocket fuel? yea it's a blender only recipe

[last bluff]

Good. Aluminium is a hoax

[coral marsh]

yo another person who says "aluminium" correctly

[ornate saffron]

It required fraking

[west jackal]

not the blender part. I mean the nitrogen part

[next ivy]

did i hear allium ?

[ornate saffron]

I consider them to be the same as you really need plutonium for nuclear

[coral marsh]

the plant?

[last bluff]

Yes, annum

[west jackal]

i didnt realize fraqing was afternuclear

[last bluff]

Nothing is after nuclear

[west jackal]

i suppose it isnt "after" unless you follow each milestone order they gave

[ornate saffron]

Unlock as you wish.

I see them as end game options

[west jackal]

hmm

i dont know that i can run a nuclear setup on 30GW

[orchid zinc]

What happens if a tractor runs over a creature in an automated route?

[normal orbit]

making the fuel rods is just manufacturers. then you can burn it for power and the refinement to plutonium will kick on, but then you're making power, so should be ok

[last bluff]

It ragdolls funnily

[white dawn]

The creature gets damaged as per usual. If the vehicle gets knocked off course and can't auto-correct, it'll end up auto-teleporting to the next node after a few seconds

Once you get far enough away from the vehicle, btw, it doesn't fully simulate; just kind of teleports from node to node. (Mobs also won't exist at that distance either.) So it's only something that can happen while you're relatively nearby

[next ivy]

so we just have to delete all nodes but 2

[orchid zinc]

Okay so i dont have to plan the trucks route so as not to hit creatures?

[ornate saffron]

Yoy get a trophy

[normal orbit]

and an achivement if you run yourself over :p

[last bluff]

This is what the cybertruck is for

[white dawn]

Correct! Though if you do find yourself getting annoyed by vehicles sometimes getting knocked off their paths a bit, you can build some stuff near the spawn to disable it. A Power Storage or two hooked up to your grid is generally enough, and feels a bit less "wasteful" than some other options. :)

[last bluff]

Wait is that in vanilla?

[last bluff]

20 asphalt blocks you attempted to dye green to simulate a golf course generally does the tricks

[white dawn]

And of course your vehicles are gonna occasionally make contact with the factory inspector beans sometimes no matter what you do. Those spawns will stay active. :)

[ornate saffron]

[last bluff]

Nature's bouncy castle!

There's no spider emoji?

[weak bloom]

ADA is a fork of GLaDOS I just can't prove it

[last bluff]

Is GLaDOS open-source?

[weak bloom]

Maybe Ficsit stole the code from Aperture somehow

[ornate saffron]

Unless I see a brain in a jar ada is heresy

[weak bloom]

Or perhaps Ficsit is a spinoff from Aperture.....hm it's all coming together

[last bluff]

ADA is 40,000 gnomes in a trench suit

[cold berry]

Wait a second.... Fix ... It ...

I am the entire circus

[last bluff]

BOB THE BUILDER

[cold berry]

I didn't realize it was a pun

[last bluff]

btw why don't the crash sites come with bodies

[next ivy]

why do you think there so many enemies around them

[cold berry]

You're not paid to think about that

[sinful roost]

What... are you wanting to do...

[next ivy]

also those crash sites are not crew capsules

[last bluff]

Biofuel

[next ivy]

they are freighters

[cold berry]

OH free meat! DNA capsules here I come! 🙂

[weak bloom]

ADA is re-evaluating her assessment of your potential as we speak

[cold berry]

She already hates me (I killed a space giraffe)

[last bluff]

Which one?

[ornate saffron]

#story-spoilers

[cold berry]

Many

They got in my steel line

[ornate saffron]

Steve

[cold berry]

They had to die. They were in the building

"ficsit employee corpse. Refine into DNA capsule?"

Y E S P L E A S E

F R E E T I C K E T S

(this would be such a funny mod)

[ornate saffron]

We do this in rust.

Harvest bodies for fat then make low grade fuel from ut

[next ivy]

describe yourself with an ADA quote

[ornate saffron]

"Choo, Choo"

[next ivy]

||"Very Efficient. Also Rude"||

[last bluff]

Any place I can see quotes without having to open the game?

[next ivy]

"your enthusiasm for saving the day has been noted. your attitude has also been noted."

[weak bloom]

"how inappropriate. Tell me more."

[last bluff]

SIX SEVEN

[ornate saffron]

The wiki

[last bluff]

There's no quotes on the ADA page AAA

[near mural]

67

[ornate saffron]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/ADA

[next ivy]

"It's all laid out so that even a monkey could understand it, so you should have no issues!"

[tame elk]

o/

[tidal dock]

Can you speed up hard drive research?

[snow apex]

nope

[reef basin]

yes, research as you collect them instead of coming home and then going through 20 drives

[tidal dock]

well then, note to self "don't horde hard drives"

[normal orbit]

can just put down a mam as you go, start research, then dismantle it and keep exploring

[tidal dock]

I left the base with an empty inventory so building anything was out of the question

[bleak valley]

You always want stuff to build with makes exploration way easier

[normal orbit]

have you heard of our lord and saviour the depot?

[tidal dock]

That requires those purple orbs

which I'm also missing

[ornate saffron]

Best you can do is to immediately place a mam when you pick up a drive hit research then delete the mam

[near mural]

trying to setup a train that loads at one station and goes straight into the next station i cant get it to load and its saying the next station is unreachable when it is a straight shot to it what am i missing

[hexed raptor]

why does my stuff come out in groups of 2 instead of as a constant stream

[normal orbit]

prob cause the machines make two at a time

[reef basin]

probably because the recipe makes 2 at time?

[white dawn]

When you're building/planning factories, the "per minute" rates are nearly always the most convenient to work with, and folks tend to think in terms of per-minute basically all the time. It's worth knowing that that's sort of a lie though. What actually happens is that every N seconds, the machine suddenly consumes a chunk of input materials and produces a chunk of output materials.

[next ivy]

probably one of the stations is the wrong way around

[white dawn]

Do some math on that and you arrive at the "per minute" rates that we're used to, but machines always operate on discrete chunks at a time. (Hence that behavior you're seeing)

[next ivy]

to toggle load / unload open the freight platform menu

[white dawn]

That's also at the root of many issues people run into with fluids -- the same's true for them. The fluids aren't consumed/produced at a steady rate, but instead consumed+produced suddenly in chunks

[hexed raptor]

ahhhhh ok thank you

one other question is why are my spliters spliting so so slow its holding up my lines

[next ivy]

maybe a small piece of unupgraded belt

otherwise bug ?

remember seeing it before

[normal orbit]

theres no splitter bugs really. its a belt limitation

[near mural]

do i need them facing the direct the train theyre sending out is going or facing teh direction theyre taking trains in from

[normal orbit]

stations need to be same direction as train

[near mural]

thank you

[orchid zinc]

can you not feed coal into the fuel-input of a truck station?

[white dawn]

You can! Coal is your usual fuel of choice for Phase-2 vehicle fuelling

Note that if the vehicle already has something non-coal in its fuel hopper, it won't take in any of the coal that the station's offering

[untold zealot]

Hm, is there a way so see how much of a resource is passing by on a belt (like you can with waterflow on pipes)?

[reef basin]

yes, though you can also know it by just calculating how much you make 🙂

[gloomy tusk]

awesome shop

[untold zealot]

Mistakes might have been made trying to "streamline" bringing coal from one area to another by merging them into a single band and then splitting them up at the location to several other foundries D:

[white dawn]

(Note that the "flow" meter on pipes isn't super useful for actually telling you your effective flow rates generally, though for feeder pipes on max-throughput setups it should be somewhat reasonable)

[stone scarab]

What if they’re making nuclear pasta and they don’t want to lose it

[untold zealot]

Also, praise be Power lines and Hyperloops

Suddenly having a secondary (and future) base doesn't seem like quite such a pain

[stone scarab]

Hypertubes you mean?

[normal orbit]

while true, its actually a nice troubleshooting tool, easier to check a belt counter than individually checking an oodle of machines :p

[untold zealot]

Ah, yepp!

[stone scarab]

[white dawn]

Now I want to create a "hyperloop station" which tries to look like a hypertube but what you actually do is wait for a very-slow-moving tractor to show up and then ride that over to 200m away

[sinful roost]

I included hypertubes with my train blueprint, it was super convinent

[stone scarab]

Hyperpatience

[reef basin]

for sure... if it was reliable 😛

[normal orbit]

its reliable to +/-1

[reef basin]

not always

[stone scarab]

gambling

[normal orbit]

maybe not if you're down on like 1-2 items/min on the belt

but anything over 10% belt capacity it works fine honestly

the biggest mistake people do is put belts on machines with full output, add beltcounter and go "why so high"

the belt reading is accurate, they just output at belt capacity until machine buffers empty out

[stone scarab]

I’ve been struggling with this in early game for a while now, but what’s the best idea for dealing with extra items, such as holding iron bars for later use, should I only start the chain when I need it or let it shut off once full?

[normal orbit]

overflow smart splitter and a awesome sink

[stone scarab]

I’m saying early game

pre plastic

[normal orbit]

you get them fairly early

[proven snow]

I'd definitely send some to a storage container though. You'll for sure need more stuff later, having a little stored up can be useful

[normal orbit]

they only use 30mw, and free tickets

[stone scarab]

1 for each chain… plus the rate for early items sucks

[spiral summit]

i just realised 1.1 came out nearly like a year ago

what the hell are they working on

[near mural]

is there a release window for 1.2? id like to finish my current save before it comes out hopefully

[proven snow]

1.2

[ornate saffron]

Rain, fluid trucks, a "new way to play" selfie mode, console release, ue5 optimization

[stone scarab]

Holy shit

[proven snow]

I think all we know is that it will come to experimental on March 17th

Idk how long they take to release something after experimental release

[near mural]

satisfaactory runs on ue5?

[ornate saffron]

Yes sir

[near mural]

i never noticed it runs so well compared to other ue5 games on my pc

[gloomy tusk]

then run it in to a buffer storage container?

[normal orbit]

experimental on 17th march, then prob be on there for 2-3 months

[white dawn]

Historically it's been usually something like 1-3 months before public release. On the outside it's been 6+, but that's for special cases like major UE version upgrades

[near mural]

thank youu

[gloomy tusk]

also just saying they have the new player tag so i doubt they are dealing with nuclear pasta yet

[ornate saffron]

That is what happens when you strip it down removing everything you don't need then spend time optimizing.

[stone scarab]

yeah and you said awesome sink

😴

[gloomy tusk]

are you dyslexic?

[gloomy tusk]

.

[near mural]

so what youre saying is ue5 games generally having horrible optimization is optional for the devs depending on how much work they wanna put in

[gloomy tusk]

its not even an edited message 🙏

[spiral summit]

this is because, in fact, good graphics also require good optimisation!

[stone scarab]

Dam

[white dawn]

AFAIK, there's two main performance-killers in UE5: Nanite and Lumen. I think that there might be some extremely limited instances of Nanite in Satisfactory but they're mostly not using it. Lumen is entirely off unless specifically enabled as an "experimental" option on PC (and I assume not available at all on console)

[ornate saffron]

Pretty much.

From what I understand UE5 has great ease of use. But unless you strip all that away and load in your own assets its runs like dog shit

[white dawn]

So they're avoiding the biggest UE5 performance pitfalls

[near mural]

another reason to love coffee stain

[real shale]

Wait rain?

[ornate saffron]

Added come 1.2

[real shale]

Oh, that sounds nice

[gloomy tusk]

does satisfactory have ray tracing

[spiral summit]

well it existed before didnt it

[white dawn]

To be fair, it's partly because the game is so old and has its roots in versions which didn't have Nanite + Lumen. It's entirely possible that if they'd started development while those features existed, they'd've been standard configuration for the game. :D

[spiral summit]

so theyre just re-adding weather

[ornate saffron]

It has global illumination as its advanced lighting festure

[ornate saffron]

Yup,

[real shale]

I'd prefer rain over the fog

Honestly the game for me looks better with r.fog 0

[spiral summit]

oh right how do you disable it

[ornate saffron]

I remember gamingwithdoc saying there was a console command.

Skyui is a mod i use to freeze the sun cycle to reduce strain on my eyes has a toggle option for fog

[real shale]

r.fog 0 is the command to disable fog but it isn't permanent unfortunately

You have to turn if off everytime you enter the game

I wouldn't mind it but some of my factories look ugly on the inside with massive fog in them lol

[normal orbit]

you can add it to the engine.ini file to have it do it automatically i believe

[spiral summit]

only thing i like from the fog is the pink hue it gives at night

i do wish the game was pitch black at night though ngl

[tidal dock]

Why is SAM ore so hard to find T_T I know where one node is but it's on the opposite side of the map

[next ivy]

every biome usually has one

usually in special places

[tidal dock]

I'm trying a forest start if you happen to know of a spot

[next ivy]

look for any major landmark i guess

[ornate saffron]

Across the river into the rocky desert. Just past the river is coal nodes and a cave.

Inside the cave

[tidal dock]

oh nice, I'm using that coal for my power

[next ivy]

well theres ||2 in the north at the ocean||

[wary prawn]

i need help my train is stuck docking and i cant remove it because its docking

[next ivy]

undock 👍

[wary prawn]

it doest let me brotato

[ornate saffron]

Most do. Hence my choice of node ^-^

[spiral summit]

theres one in plain sight in no mans land

[near mural]

just made the absolute ugliest railway and set of train stations but it was SO much easier than belting or trucks

[next ivy]

AND its reusable

for the next train

[carmine leaf]

quick question, is it possible to mirror a machine? im building some coal power generators and want the same inputs across each other

[ornate saffron]

No

[near mural]

ym having a diffrent train with diffrent stuff using the same track? all ive got rn is it going back and fourth bringing copper to my oil for computers

[carmine leaf]

damn, oh well. thanks for the fast answer

[next ivy]

that is one of the main appeals of trains over other transportation methods

[clever sandal]

i cant belive that going from rocky desert to grass fields by the sea is only like 4 km... that's shorter than my ride with the bus from school to home

[normal orbit]

maybe in 1.2 :o

[near mural]

thats exactly where my line will probably extend to hoping to make hmfs in rocky desert

[ornate saffron]

Spread like a plague across the map

[normal orbit]

i did spot something in the 1.2 exp date reveal trailer, but its so far away and blurry idk if it'll be a thing

[clever sandal]

i mean the map feels big but isnt really in the numbers

[ornate saffron]

Ya, totalxplise pointed that out to. We shall see

[normal orbit]

#satisfactory-experimental message that mk2 miner has the power nub on the wrong side

[near mural]

making my factories look not horrible is genuinly harder than the logistics

[ornate saffron]

Make spaghetti and just say your Italian

[near mural]

spaghetti might be the play i spend jst as long keeping everything organised as i do planning and actually building 😭

[clever sandal]

yo i have a video idea: "can i beat satisfactory while satisfying myself?"

[ornate saffron]

Please leave the only fans content on only fans

🤢

[clever sandal]

gang... it was meant to poke fun at that one minecraft video...

[gloomy tusk]

[clever sandal]

anyway.... why are some recepies so hard

[tall lantern]

learning curve

[clever sandal]

but like the logistics are still crazy in mid/late game

[ornate saffron]

the logistics and layouts are the game

[tall lantern]

the more you do the better you'll (hopefully) get, and the further you get the more options you'll have

[ornate saffron]

And decision paralysis comes for you like a night terror

[unkempt blade]

I think it's probably because you're not using enough screws

once you've mastered that part you just add cast screws to make it super easy

[deft drum]

I unironically use bolted plate+steel screws a lot

[unkempt blade]

right? it's just a good recipe!

[deft drum]

I do understand the seething hatred of Screws but I find them less annoying that most i guess?

[tall lantern]

maybe you've learned the lesson they're there to teach

"don't always try and jam everything onto one belt"

[ornate saffron]

They are fine. The factory i am currently building needed 1770 screws on one floor

But thats the trick. Construct screws where you use them. Direct feed machines where possible

[unkempt blade]

and most importantly - when you have the option to choose a screw-consuming recipe you should do so

because all the best recipes use screws

[deft drum]

15 RIP per minute per machine is just, too tempting

[forest tangle]

I might need some help... Can someone tell me why there no ingots flowing out of the top storage, and along the belt? Will post pic in a sec...

[unkempt blade]

the outputs don't work like a splitter does. It usually favors one (I think by build order but there might be some weirdness besides that)

[forest tangle]

#screenshots message

[near mural]

genuinly how do i get 4 things into a manufacturer without a spaghetti mess

[unkempt blade]

vertical conveyors to different levels + a manifold for each

[deft drum]

3x the rate from one assemlber (saving 30 MW) bust costing 4.167x the screws, which even on default recipies only costs a couple extra constructors, is well worth it

[ornate saffron]

Floor holes for two inputs

One input in line with manufacturer and lifts for the final line.

[near mural]

thank you both of you

[deft drum]

insert Homer Simpson looking good meme here

[forest tangle]

Storage and the lift only have one output each... it cant have anything to do with multiple outputs

[unkempt blade]

did your conveyor get placed backwards or something maybe?

[ornate saffron]

#satisfactory-memes message

[forest tangle]

I just rebuilt the conveyer to make sure ... it's the right direction

[ornate saffron]

I can share some screenshots in a hour if you need more advice and examples. Just @ me

[near mural]

that would be great 🙏
im trying to build more organized since i think im approaching the point where my factories will be more permanent but its sm harder than it looks

[wary prawn]

can you despawn a train with commands when its stuck?

[forest tangle]

It looked like the lift was connected to the box, but there was a tiny gap

[frosty sedge]

Is steel beams useless past phase 2 because I mas produce them but I don't see any real use if pipes are 10x better

[normal orbit]

beams still used in a load of buildables, and for versatile framework

you need some of it

[wary prawn]

.

[ornate saffron]

I love the frame decorating which uses beams

[frosty sedge]

Do I need versatile framework past phase 3

[autumn path]

do machines use energy when idle?

[ornate saffron]

Youll need 5390 to see credits

[frosty sedge]

That's not a lot

[autumn path]

might need some for phase 4, haven't looked fully yet

[tall lantern]

0.1MW IIRC

[deft drum]

Neg

Ahh beans

[autumn path]

but for example the first of the 4 items required for phase 4 is part #6. It requires parts #5 for components which requires part#3 for components. there are 4 parts and the 4th uses nuclear tree

so i haven't fully looked

I don't tihnk any of that is a spoiler

[near mural]

when dealing with fluids and manifolds if i dont fill all the pipes before hand theyll fill eventually right?

[deft drum]

Yes, but slowly

Iirc the advice is to Underclock the last 1 or 2 buildings for a bit to fill it up first, or use a fluid buffer before turning on the machines

[near mural]

very helpful thank you

[unkempt blade]

For pipes I normally let them fill before I use them but I'm not sure how much that's just habit for me vs necessary. Manifolds (as long as the math works) will saturate with enough time

[near mural]

honestly fluids are so fun rn i hope they dont make me lose my mind later

[autumn path]

they are getting their first big upgrade next update

the physics of them atleast

[near mural]

what exactly does that mean

i dont really see how they could operate diffrently

[wise junco]

I put all fluids in factory carts

[autumn path]

could always be more realistic or better

[ornate saffron]

maybe

[autumn path]

like pumping 600 thru 2 pipes connected to a pipe that uses 400. the game is horrible at making that work properly. Although it is much better than other games.

what you mean maybe? pretty sure i saw it in the official trailer

[brave hearth]

why dose crouch jumping feel like ultra kill movement
anyone
anyone else

or would it be crouch sprinting

[reef basin]

afaik this isn't confirmed yet

[thin nymph]

Just a reminder to check if that one pipe was starving or not

[normal orbit]

pipes and fluids been updated like 10 times since update 6 :p lil fixes here and there

[cunning glade]

Chat I may finally get done gathering the resources for all the trains I need

Tho bad way too phrase it

I have about 5 nodes of aluminum left and then 14k limestone

Which will be iirc all of the limestone in the desert

Plus some from tropics and swamp I think

And then it's finally time too start the build

Yk upon needing this much ore I have a feeling gathering 36k ore is gonna take forever

Also I've heard of a loop with converters where u can gain materials?

[near mural]

is satisfactory calculator out of date? theres a pure coal node next to the very far west of the northern forest but i cant find it in game

i guess its techincally in the rocky desert

[normal orbit]

you might be on the update 8 version

click the big yellow button in top right that says game branch

and select stable

[near mural]

ive been on that the whole time i had no idea 😭

thank you

smh that was perfect for my hmf </3

[ornate saffron]

Neko beat me to it lol

[zenith pecan]

The fundamental problem of where to actually put certain factories haha, routing material is a tougher challenge than just building monsters.

[mental orbit]

So I haven’t played in like 3 months and I probably have no clue what’s going on, do I just start over

[ornate saffron]

I would. But thats me. Do tou have the patience to try and remember lol

[mental orbit]

That’s what I’m tryna figure out

I have 60 hours in that save and it’s my first one. I tore literally everything down halfway thru and cleaned it all up too

Currently on Phase 3

Can’t tell if the game is starting to get really hard or I just screwed myself over spending like 15 hours at least rebuilding my entire world

[brave hearth]

why dose crouch jumping feel like ultra kill movement
anyone
anyone else
or would it be crouch sprinting

[ornate saffron]

They give you lots of mobility options in the game. It feels really good

[brave hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-joia-gif-27503164

[warm finch]

ouch. generally not an effective use of time to tear down and rebuild on a massive scale until you unlock mk3 miners and mk5 belts. then you can really go ham

[warm finch]

no links allowed here

[brave hearth]

its a gif

[warm finch]

it's still a link lol

[brave hearth]

of a cat

doing a thumbs up

[proven snow]

Yeah no embed perms

[brave hearth]

???

[reef basin]

the gif is perfect example why they are disabled here 🙂

[mental orbit]

This is my first time playing a factory game so it was bad. Very bad. Disgusting bad, if u saw my setup u would probably cry and chuck ur head out a window 😂

[brave hearth]

i am my setup

[mental orbit]

Spaghetti all over the map, like 50 electric poles all right next to each other

Still have water being pumped like 2000 meters across the map cuz I thought the lake on top of the mountain was the only water source

[brave hearth]

BUT NO PHOTOS

[near mural]

i was having a hard time finding somewhere with nearby pure nodes of limestone and iron before i realized i really dont need 10 hmf/m rn and can make due with just 3 slooped 😭

[zenith pecan]

It isn't the node issue, it's the order in which to put factories so I can get material between them, as for HMF, I'm producing 45 atm.

I'm starting with the cooling unit factory then dropping the turbo again, I'll ship the heat sinks.

[near mural]

your issue is figuring out how youre gonna get processed items to other factories to further process them?

[zenith pecan]

How to bend belts around others so they don't clip and the best order of facilities.

I had to move my rubber and plastic feeds because my initial construction overran the site where those materials popped up ~whoops.

[near mural]

sounds like quite a mess one ill have to deal with eventually too 😭

[zenith pecan]

Depends how you build, this is what is swallowing the dunes at the moment: #screenshots message

Got the cooling unit factory floor laid down, I should start placing the turbo motor floor again nearby and design the heat sink factory.

I can't get much done tonight though, early start for work.

[spare prism]

[stoic nebula]

do mikeal or jason ever join chat with us?

[reef basin]

sometimes

[normal orbit]

Now and then

[stoic nebula]

gasp

i wanna ping them but dont wanna be in trouble or smth

[reef basin]

you can ping them but they are both most likely sleeping at this point of time

[low ingot]

man i be seeing y'alls screenshots and like comparing it to my stuf, i have no imagination xD you guys be making crazy builds i dont know how you do it

[reef basin]

(also there are some people who love to spam-ping them with unrelated BS, so I assume they ignore most of the pings nowdays)

[stoic nebula]

i wont get shunned if i do?

[stoic nebula]

i just wanna say hi... i never get responded to in the livestreams

[reef basin]

there's tons of other people on streams, so it's indeed hard to get responded to

[stoic nebula]

sigh

yea no i just dont want them to be like "u cant be pinging us maam!!" then i have to leave bc someone got onto me

[civic silo]

When I set my gameplay settings to "Retaliate" creature hostility, hostile creatures will not attack even when attacked by the player

is this a known bug?

[jagged nymph]

wdym

[jagged nymph]

yeah it is

[proven snow]

Press q. Select conveyor belt. Assuming you have it unlocked (unlocks like… 30 min into game?)

Point it at one machine likr a smelter then left click, then point at another machine and left click

[autumn path]

So i decide to choose the recipe other than the aluminum scrap that increases output because it doesn't produce silicia and i need it for ingots, then 2 minutes latter a recipe pops up where i don't need silica for ingots, FML, now i need to find it again lol

[woven vector]

question, are there some "item frames" like minecraft?

[proven snow]

Not exactly, but in the Awesome Shop you can unlock signs, and signs can do a ton of things. Such as display pictures of any item, making them basically like an item frame

[elfin smelt]

it's an item frame but even better

[woven vector]

i keep rebuilding over and over and over and over my stuff smh

how do you get ficsit coupons

[weak bloom]

hm is it worth automating iodine filters?

[tall lantern]

depending on what you want to achieve, you could just build a circular belt with the item on it lol

[hard stump]

Out of these items steel pipes,wire,iron plates,iron rods screws would you feel 1200per min is to much if not how many if not just one? And what ones?

[deft drum]

of them probably pipe?

[autumn path]

any splitters let me set the limit of items than can pass thru?

[deft drum]

rest 1200 per min is a good start

[dense violet]

no, that's what clocking is for

[dense violet]

if you're going into radioactive places regularly? sure

[autumn path]

multiple ways to do many things

[dense violet]

well in this case ratio splitters aren't among those ways

[slender minnow]

as a noob player, i need to know if you have any tips for me because yall sound really good

[sinful galleon]

anyone can help me? i built a fuel generator crude oil but i have so many refinery with fuel but generator go off because there is not much fuel

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch coupon

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coupon