satisfactory

[warm burrow]

posted

[mortal ginkgo]

need belts stickting out at least one segment out of those splitters etc

[sour schooner]

I see. that belt must be at the edge?

[mortal ginkgo]

doesnt matter, as long as there is a belt to connect to, it will try its best and let you know

[sour schooner]

I see, lemme try

[normal orbit]

It matters a bit. There's a minimum length

[last mason]

I haven’t had belts auto-connect to mergers/splitters before even though I have a long belt before it

[normal orbit]

So if they too close they won't connect. Unless they at the edge and distance is 0

[sour schooner]

thanks for the help for everybody, The BP segments are noW got connected

items are also going through so the connection is not just visual but also functional

[woven vector]

just a question, what is some material that will always be useful going forward? Example bolts, iron plates

[west jackal]

iron plates, rods, and lots of concrete are t0 items youll need forever

[jagged nymph]

literally everything

[west jackal]

but to extend that, most of the items are important, reinforced plates, rotors, motors, steel beams pipes and encased beams, hmfs computers.

[woven vector]

bet thanks

[normal orbit]

all but screws, circuit boards, stators, electromagnetic control rods. they arent used in construction, so you dont need to stockpile em, just make what you need. the other materials you use when building, so keeping them on hand is good.

[west jackal]

just about everything, except circuit boards, aparently you dont need more than a couple of them 🙂

stators are used in construction!

[normal orbit]

nope

[west jackal]

power storage buildings?

[jagged nymph]

nope, stators are not used in any buildings

[woven vector]

btw

[jagged nymph]

only other items

[west jackal]

huh, they must have removed them..?

[woven vector]

any way to remove rocks? i got some huge annoying rocks

[west jackal]

i know for a fact they used to

[west jackal]

if they are cracked then yes

[jagged nymph]

maybe, but not anymore

[west jackal]

if they are "solid" then no

[west jackal]

i looked it up, 1.0 changed it from 5 stators to 5 encased beams.

[fickle locust]

You need 500 screws for the awesome shop! Which I know because I constantly forget, clear the screws from my inventory, and then have to manually craft them... Because you can't use tickets to buy things if you can't build the shop

[normal orbit]

200*

[west jackal]

i wish i knew that before i automated stators early on, dont feel like tearing down the factory though

free tickets i spose

[normal orbit]

you can manually upload 2500 screws, enough to build 12 awesomeshops

[west jackal]

just reupload the screws with inventory upload

[fickle locust]

Or, hear me out: every single time you realize you've forgotten you could put down a power augmenter and a constructor with the steel screws recipe and have that craft them for you

[jagged nymph]

i had 20 extra screws in my iron factory for the depot, so i just put those in storage

[surreal ingot]

#screenshots message @sour schooner
Only works for belts not splitters/mergers if you put some short belts at the end of the blueprint it should work

[river marsh]

i put 5 refineries with a total output of 200 fuel which goes through a straight pipeline into 10 fuel powered generators, why are the generators at the end of my chain not getting enough fuel to be at 100% efficiency?

[normal orbit]

refineries might not be running at 100%

[river marsh]

you were right thanks

[stiff dock]

i neee help

where is a good place to build my first coal factory in grassy fields?

i looked it up and it said the southwest edge but i don't know where that is

[white dawn]

Do you mean Coal power, or your first factory making steel products?

[stiff dock]

both

[white dawn]

If the latter: just anywhere there's coal. There's some around the edges of the southern cliff

[stiff dock]

but i need water

[normal orbit]

power to the north, steel to the south

[white dawn]

If for power: look for locations which have like 3-4 coal nodes clustered right near large bodies of water. You'll find those to the North

They may be up to 1km away or so, so drag some powerlines. :)

This will be the first of many nudges the game will be giving you to start expanding around the map. :)

[stiff dock]

oh gosh it's gonna be far i'm scared

[ornate saffron]

you got this, Spread like a plague upen this planet

[white dawn]

Get your hikin' boots on. :)

And be on the lookout for fancy loot while you're out exploring!

[stiff dock]

should i build foundations on the way there?

like below the power lines?

[normal orbit]

entirely up to you

[keen belfry]

hii there! there is a mod that makes character look like a kamen rider?

[south sinew]

It's usually worth building ramps/bridges to get to commonly visited locations, like the 4-coal-node lake, but you don't need to build a roador something

[woven vector]

is the overlapping risk big? i see always that fchaning a few inches of position removes the risk, but is it?

[white dawn]

I basically never connect remote factories with foundations, but as Sapphic Neko said, it's entirely up to you. :)

[white dawn]

Nah, clip things together all you want. So long as you're happy with how it looks, it's fine. :)

The game's got a "hard" clipping limit where it won't let you build things too close to machines, but so long as the game will let you place something, then it'll work fine.

[void edge]

is there a known fix or does someone know how to fix the "Failed to find GObjects" error

[hollow lance]

(1) I'd never connect my outposts with foundations!
(2) I connect my outposts with trains ... and I have foundations under the tracks. Ummm, so I guess I do have foundations connecting my outposts. 🙂

[white dawn]

I generally go the "disconnected pillars" route for my trains, which looks Realistic Enough™ to myself. So I don't even do that. :)

[hollow lance]

Check your mods - Try disabling some. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q="satisfactory"+"Failed+to+find+GObjects"

[normal orbit]

I kinda do... technically my train highway is connecting factories with foundations i spose.

[void edge]

i dont have mods thats the issue

[normal orbit]

wrong reply :p

[hollow lance]

Sorry, no idea then. FWIW, if you're not 100% sure you never previously installed mods, you can double check the folder <steamapps>/common/Satisfactory/FactoryGame/Mods/. And, of course, the usual first advice for any issue is to go into steam and "verify files".

[void edge]

i think i got it, i had a few extra files so i just deleted the whole thing and im verifying integredy of my files

[autumn path]

What do most people do with the water produced in aluminum? use it for the first machines in a big loop? or use pumps to feed some of them and use teh water to feed some others in a separate loop?

[void edge]

build a skyscraper

[hollow lance]

Combine as much water as you can fit into your pipes. Use a VIP to reduce the amount of water you need to pull via extractors. There might be a diagram for that kind of aluminum feedback loop on the wiki.

[autumn path]

vip?

[hollow lance]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[white dawn]

I basically always loop the "recycled" water back to the earlier step in the process, but I keep the fresh+recycled pipe systems totally separate. Doing so may require doing some clocking to make sure that all the numbers match up. When doing so, it can be helpful to pre-flood the "recycled" pipes so that the system starts off basically at full speed

A couple example layouts for that (one with vanilla recipes, one with sloppy/electrode): #math-and-meta message

If you combine the fresh+recycled, then yeah, a "VIP Junction" (described in the manual that ArcaneTourist posted) is generally the most reliable way to do it

[hollow lance]

A VIP is variable input priority. It's a small combo of two pumps and a couple of junctions. Water produced by machines goes into the high priority side. Water from extractors goes into the low priority side. Output goes to consumers.

I've heard of people just wasting all their output water by making and sinking concrete or some such, but that offends my sense of efficiency and desire to puzzle solve.

[autumn path]

From what i am reading, they changed it so that a buildings output takes priority over a pump, so nothing fancy is required anymore

[hollow lance]

The other thing for aluminum is that you'll likely want to have your factory broken into a couple of "modules" all exactly the same. Otherwise, you'll hit the limits of either belt speeds or pipe throughput or both.

[hollow lance]

Really?!? Wow!

[white dawn]

No, if you're combining two liquid flows and need one to be consumed before the other, a VIP Junction is your best bet

It's always been true that you can get a working system doing that without a VIP Junction; I've even done it myself in the past

But if you're combining fresh+recycled I'd always recommend a VIP Junction still

(As I say, my real recommendation is to just not combine them in the first place -- far less opportunity for weirdness and hours of debugging, IMO)

I used to combine loopbacks quite frequently but I eventually got tired of the extra work. Keeping 'em separate is as straightforward as you can get. :)

(That said, folks with known-good VIP Junction blueprints which have already been debugged to the point of reliability can always just plonk one of those down)

[swift turret]

@spring walrus #screenshots message rocket fuel is easier

[woven vector]

question, is the water+coal limited at 600MW?

[hollow lance]

I use VIPs a lot. Especially with the SF+ mod that adds a bunch of new fluids and also creates a lot of byproduct streams. VIPs are reliable.

[hollow lance]

Uh. It's limited by the amount of coal on the map and the amount of water on the map?

IIRC, I once had a setup with a couple of coal nodes and some sulfur and got over a GW...

[autumn path]

so depends if you are running the mod that makes them all pure, or lets you build nodes

[thorny berry]

question ive played a good amount of factorio and going to get satisfacrtory but not sure weather to buy on pc or console cause im running a budget computer that can handle the game on low settings

[autumn path]

I had 4.5 GW from just the 4 coal north of the main starting location. 5.5 GW with 1 sloop power booster

[inland fulcrum]

I assume nuclear power is the best power source in the game, right?

[autumn path]

i would go pc personally, its made by PC people, you can copy paste ctrl c and v recipes to buildings ect

just waiting for a Ctrl+Z

[spring walrus]

but it requires sulfur, coal and lots of oil to be in the same zone :)

[hollow lance]

Nuclear is very late game. I only did it once. Fuel generators are early and can generate all the power I need.

[swift turret]

Use trains

[autumn path]

also i dunno if smart! is on console, but it changes the game in terms of tiem required to build a massive factory

or portals 🙂

[spring walrus]

thats effort

[inland fulcrum]

Well I just unlocked drones and I'm thinking if I should just rush nuclear instead of staying with fuel before I make all the very advanced factories

[swift turret]

If yoy already have infrastructure set up its barely any effort

[autumn path]

yea probably only like 2-6 hours lol

[swift turret]

32 blender, 20 refineries. 150k MW

Seems like a good deal to me

[coral glacier]

Yes!
Specifically when using Plutonium fuel.

[hollow lance]

And, an input-only fuel tank to be used if your grid crashes and you need to do a cold restart.

[swift turret]

Thats the case for any large scale power

[hollow lance]

Or, batteries controlled by smart power switches.

[swift turret]

Nuclear or fuel

[thorny berry]

@denots so for mega builds get on console for quality of live blueprint stuff go pc?

[glacial drum]

Console cannot use mods.

[hollow lance]

And, there are some really nice QOL mods.

I've heard people running this game on laptops. Guessing/hoping graphics isn't the biggest issue? I'd expect CPU. And, some minimum amount of RAM. That said, my current game is running with only 8 GB virtual and 1 GB physical memory.

[thorny berry]

my gpu is the only thing that is below min

[noble viper]

My laptop runs the game pretty well on high, but it's a pretty beefy machine, 3070ti gaming laptop. I do have issues with thermal throttling in games if I don't regularly dust out my laptop though

It's also several years old and getting longer in the tooth

[hollow lance]

There are video settings. You can turn down texture quality - especially if your video card doesn't have enough VRAM. I'm doing fine with 4 GB of VRAM on the video card. Turn down the shadow stuff if your video card isn't very powerful. Steam will let you refund if you play less than an hour, IIRC. There is a 'graphic test' button in the settings.

[thorny berry]

i have a Radeon Vega 8

[hollow lance]

I have a Radeon R9 which is a lot more powerful, so I dunno. But, with the max 2g of shared ram, I'd definitely lower the texture settings.

[bold heron]

what if hypertubes would carry power like rails.
so just 1 entrance of the network needs an actual power connection ?

[thorny berry]

hmmmmm

[deft drum]

Blue crater

[spare prism]

I have a question if something in my game breaks but its from mods, but i disabled them all and my game still broken what i do

[spark ruin]

how much RAM do you have ?

[spark ruin]

anything below min spec will make it terrible

[orchid zinc]

If i have ore coming into a splitter which leads to two constructors, one that eats 40 ore per minute and the other 20 per minute, will the splitting follow those percentages? I imagine the capacity of the constructors will make one of the conveyor belts (for the 20 per minute) be full while the other isnt?

[jagged nymph]

it will initially split 30/m to each, but once the 20/m machines fills up (because its getting 30/m) the belt will backup and the excess will go to the 40/m one. So if you split it like that, it will work, but it will take a few minutes before it starts working at full speed

[orchid zinc]

Sick, so the constructors will make the goods go into them proportionally to how much they need basically? based on how much they eat

[stone scarab]

In early game kinda but when you get later that’s not how it works

[orchid zinc]

what changes?

[jagged nymph]

not really, it doesnt see "hm this one needs 40 so ill give it 40" but what happens is when the belt backs up, it has no where to send the excess other than the 40/m one, so it has to go there

[stone scarab]

Well, there are some recipes that turn 24 wood a second into 120 biomass a second…

[gloomy tusk]

guys whats happening in 1 minute

[stone scarab]

3 o clock

[gloomy tusk]

discord is undergoing scheduled maintenance

[stone scarab]

Oh

[gloomy tusk]

does that mean we wont be able to talk

[stone scarab]

Well ggs ig

[stone scarab]

Prolly yeah

[gloomy tusk]

its 7am now and nothings happening

[jagged nymph]

cause basically if you have 60/m coming into the splitter, both sides will get 30/m. The 20/m machine will use 20/m of that and the other 10 will slowly build up in the machine, until it gets backed up into the belt all the way back to the splitter. At this point, the other 40/m goes to the other side, because it cant go to the side thats backed up

[stone scarab]

Uh… it’s 3 for me

[jagged nymph]

its 2pm for me

[stone scarab]

U in America?

Cuz I am

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[stone scarab]

So like in the west right?

[jagged nymph]

like right in the middle

[stone scarab]

Like California ish?

Oh dam

Cuz I’m up at the top right

[jagged nymph]

nah its 12 in california lol

[stone scarab]

Oh

[ember escarp]

Anyone know of a job in the real world where I can use my 4000+ hours of Satisfactory gaming experience to land a job?

[jagged nymph]

satisfactory youtuber

[stone scarab]

Maybe a manager of some sort of mass production factory, or a warehouse like Amazon, where you have to manage the number of ins and outs, with the fact that people don’t run constantly like machines, so you have a couple of options but you could just be a youtuber and sell tutorial videos

[jagged nymph]

i mean they wouldnt hire you because you have satisfactory experience

but if you were already hired, the problem solving skills you leanred from satisfactory may help

[stone scarab]

But you would go in and show you’re abilities in management and land it

[jagged nymph]

not really how it works

[stone scarab]

How I wish it worked

[jagged nymph]

yeah

but it doesnt

[stone scarab]

🙁

Damnit

: (

[pliant heath]

Saddest factory

[stone scarab]

Please tell me you’re a seasoned player

Never mind you are

[neon yoke]

My first time playing and just realising how much the alt recepies are worth it. Really stunned by the combination of solid steel bars, molded ingots and finally steel screws i just got running. Makes the game so much more interesting. Amazing game ❤️

[autumn path]

getting rid of screws is great too

i need to go get like 20 more hard drives been putting it off

[jagged nymph]

screws literally arent even bad

[normal orbit]

they give you cooties

[autumn path]

just need them in such high numbers that you often need to make them in line which is just annoying

[jagged nymph]

like sure you need quite a bit of screws but thats only an issue very early game

[neon yoke]

Yes, I've heard of it, and if I find the recipes, I'll definitely try it sometime.

[stone scarab]

My friend kept throwing out my screws cause I kept them in a chest to make room for other stuff In my bag

[ornate saffron]

to be fair you only need snough to make the awesome shop and mam

[white dawn]

@jaunty blade (re: #screenshots message ) - Create a #1038092680493801533 thread and inline the image there. Asking questions in #screenshots is super awkward

[jaunty blade]

thanks, i will do that

[near mural]

is there a recipe for turning oil directly into hor?

[ornate saffron]

yes

[near mural]

thank youu

[ornate saffron]

Its called

Heavy Oil Residue

[near mural]

i dont have any drives omg bruh 😭 \

[inland fulcrum]

Its possible to stack several pipeline pumps (with proper distance to eachother) to make water go further up than just one could right?

[hollow lance]

Yes.

[inland fulcrum]

So you can push it up infinitely?

[hollow lance]

Yes.

[acoustic bear]

the map is 2km tall

and you can build a fluid tower to remove the headlift requirement on large builds

[hollow lance]

Note that viewing a pump shows how much head lift it is seeing. This lets you make sure your pumps aren't too far apart.

[rugged rune]

If i do a ‘water tower’ of pipes and pumps at the start of my fluid pipeline, it will handle all the headlift over a long distance of pipes, correct?

[jagged nymph]

yes, although technically thats not an intended thing

[hollow lance]

Just like the real world! Cities use tiny pumps to labor all night to push water up into a water tower. Then during the day, households consume the water at a faster rate than the water tower pumps could run. Using slower pumps is cheaper for the city.

[white dawn]

Yes, but it also does that even if you don't create a "tower"

Headlift will propagate over infinite horizontal distance (barring bugs/glitches)

Towers don't really get you anything; pumps are effectively free. :)

Also, we tend to recommend keeping your pipe systems as short as possible. "long distance" and "pipelines" are a recipe for annoying debugging

When you do inevitably run into flow problems on a network, you'll thank your Past Self™ if the system you built is as short and simple as was feasible. :)

[jagged nymph]

if you need to transport it long distances you can package/unpackage it

[hollow lance]

Personally, I keep pipelines or belts under 1km and use trains for longer distances.

[rugged rune]

I insert buffers on long pipes. Flush the buffer midway and if it fills normally, go to the next midpoint. Cuts down a lot of debugging, cause i dont like fluid packaging/trains/trucks

[weak bloom]

The part that's inaccurate is one pipe going to the water tower pressurizing the entire system lol. Irl you have to actually get all the fluids up before they can go down passively

[white dawn]

Buffers are far more likely to cause problems on fluid networks, or hide existing problems until you're no longer paying attention to the network, than fix them, fwiw.

[hollow lance]

I don't think I implied differently. It's gravity that provides the outflow pressure of course. Point is that if you tried to replace gravity with pumps, you'd need much larger pumps than what they actually have.

EDIT: It's all about time. Pump up at a slow rate all day long. Use the water at a higher rate, but only for short spikes. Also - don't be a maintenance worker in the sewers at about the time people are waking up....

[white dawn]

IMO buffers are basically never worth it unless you're doing fluid-train-platform buffering, which is when they're definitely necessary. :)

[weak bloom]

Yeah but what you can do in game is have one pipe up to the water tower and back down, then connect it to like fifty other pipes and every one of those can move up and down to the level of the water tower.
That doesn't make sense realistically because it implies the entire volume of the fluid network is going into the water tower

The water tower principle works like it does irl fundamentally, but in game it scales infinitely because of the way it's simulated lol

[thorny berry]

16gb

[magic ginkgo]

.

3 years...

long time...

[white dawn]

Thus making your pipe network a million times harder to debug whenever anything goes wrong. :)

I strongly recommend folks don't engage in those kind of tower shenanigans. Or if you do, tear it down and do without before asking for help in the Discord about it, 'cause that'll almost always be Debugging Step 1. :)

[hollow lance]

I don't see a need to a water tower. Provide enough lift to get up to the top level of your factory and you're done. Adding a storage take doesn't buy you anything.

[magic ginkgo]

@void gorge Don't wanna brag but... I may have been here longer then you! ❤️

Anyway, love your managing and have a great day!

[reef basin]

Water towers are just pumps with extra stteps

[reef basin]

you want to brag?

[magic ginkgo]

Hahaha, no one can outlive you lol

[sterile blade]

More steps for less pumps

[normal orbit]

more steps and more pumps lol

[magic ginkgo]

Even thought to make a custom bot for the fun of it? (for this server ofc)

[weak bloom]

yeah I'm not planning on doing anything like that unless it's much later and on a project where I'm specifically making a point out of it

[magic ginkgo]

@torpid herald You tried and failed...

[sterile blade]

Why more pumps?
So long as the tower is not "too high" (ie: wasting headlift) or feeding just one pipeline, one should need ~half the pumps or less

[normal orbit]

cuz you kinda need to bring it a little bit higher

and it still loses pressure with distance so you might still need a pump before a manifold

[sterile blade]

I don't think that's enough to offset needing ~half of the pumps, let alone needing less (ie: headlift shared between more than just 2 pipelines)

[keen belfry]

how you guys plan big factories?

[cold berry]

So ... Do fluid pipes MK2 take ANY copper? Because if not it's all going into my computer chips and I'll use iron for wire

[keen belfry]

im strugling with lvl 3 elevator stuff :c

[cold berry]

I vibe at the nodes and machines until they catch my feels

[normal orbit]

copper sheets and plastic

[cold berry]

I thought the recipe was rubber and plastic tho?

[normal orbit]

which is a lot nicer than the alclad sheets they used to :p

[cold berry]

I was wondering if any part of the recipe was hidden weirdly

[weak bloom]

they used to use alclad sheets?!??

[cold berry]

Like maybe it hides the mk1 part but you still need it idk

[normal orbit]

yea back in update ... 3 i think

[cold berry]

I don't even know what an alclad sheet is lol (I'm on tier 6)

[hollow lance]

There are a number of planner tools that will help you plan out counts and ratios, if that's what you mean. Search for "tools" on the wiki.

[keen belfry]

planners are pretty limited tho, btw you guys thing vertical designs are better than horizontal ones?

[cold berry]

I like a mix of both.

[keen belfry]

i mean, the project builder is limited*

[coral marsh]

Anyone else think the production count of alien power matrix is a bit unfair? It takes 1 quantum encoder at 200% clock speed just to match the consumption rate of 1 alien power augmentor.
I do personally believe the 250% production rate should be 7.5 per minute instead of 6.25. Slooping a quantum encoder is also expensive on both power and number of sloops required.

Either the production rate needs to be increased a little or the consumption rate of alien power augmentors needs to be decreased

[normal orbit]

considering its boosting the augmentor from 10% to 30%, no, i dont think its unfair, thats a massive boost

[coral marsh]

I mean sure, thats fair, but a 200% Qe is power expensive

[hollow lance]

Multiple floors. So - control both the horizontal and the vertical.

[coral marsh]

And requires a lot of SAM which is the 2nd most limited resource in the game

Even with alt recipe mods, SAM flucs are hard to make

[weak bloom]

the power expense becomes less relevant the more power your grid has overall because the augmenter scales with it too, I think that's the intent behind having the 30% boost be locked behind such a high power requirement

[normal orbit]

if you make 1tw of power, thats giving you 200 more gw, much much more than the overclocked encoder will use

[weak bloom]

incentivizes you to get a bigger power grid before feeding the power augmentor to make it more worth it and less of a tradeoff

[coral marsh]

Fair

Would be nice if the 250% production rate was 7.5 though, a small increase of 1.25 per minute. 2 Qe's supply 3 Apa's

[spiral summit]

dont get why theres no vehicle first person in the base game

speeding in the explorer in first person is like one of the most fun things to do in this game

[sterile blade]

first person

[sterile blade]

That would be quite damn fun

[ornate saffron]

First person perspective I understand

[sterile blade]

Surely there's a QA post about it... Probably a few years old 😅

[spiral summit]

well it is because theres a mod for it thankfully

[normal orbit]

tried a mod once which lets you see out of the train as if you're driving it, was pretty neat

[reef basin]

I'm not admin on this server to add a bot to it
(and idk for what would you want a bot)

[magic ginkgo]

I guess your not in my ticket (maybe you are) but I made a suggestion there: #1478132911604633771
For more info <3

[reef basin]

I'm not. I'm not admin nor moderator. I can't view other people's tickets lol

[magic ginkgo]

oh welp

i will tell you what they say if you want to know

[neon yoke]

Is there a known bug with the foundries in blueprint desinger? Whenever i place one of the blueprints down in my plant the conveyors are shifted and the setup isnt the same as in bp designer. Double checked in BP designer. Any idea?

[normal orbit]

not to my knowledge

i got blueprints with 24 and 32 foundries, not seen anything like that

[neon yoke]

ty

[normal orbit]

using mods?

[neon yoke]

nope, vanilla

[ember escarp]

Does anyone here know some one that would be willing to sit down with me to teach me how to make a decent 10 minute video for youtube for a Satisfactory factory that I have recently built?

[zinc pagoda]

Any one knows signals? A train right Infront of a station says it can't get there because of signals. I don't understand what's wrong

[normal orbit]

signals are directional, make sure they all go in same direction and that station is also in same direction

[zinc pagoda]

Yep they are. I have other trains running but this one won't

Oh dam it's the station facing wrong way lol thank you

[normal orbit]

yup, the classic

[zinc pagoda]

Thank you. I have so many trains never done that before haha

[sinful roost]

I forced my own hand at learning signals after gridlocking my entire phase 4 development lol. I'm finding it fun now!

[jade storm]

WHY IS CRUDE OIL 2000 METERS AWAY

[west jackal]

does priority switch give the main grid top priority?

[reef basin]

because you should learn to expand and build all around the map

[west jackal]

thats why dune is best

[reef basin]

*bad

[normal orbit]

pull up your pantaloons and go for a hike :p

[proven snow]

To make the game more fun by forcing you to engage with logistics

Sending trucks or trains around the map is awesome

[west jackal]

dune is close to plenty early oil

[reef basin]

which doesn't teach players to expand and they then have issues when building everything in one place

[hollow lance]

There really isn't a main grid. And check the tabs on the switch - you can put different switches in different priority groups.

Don't forget to name your priority switches!

[west jackal]

I named priority, only the switches themselves let me assign them, but everythong not on a switch is on one grid i thinkl

[weak bloom]

if I am feeding a manifold with more items than it needs, I can put a smart splitter as the last splitter in the manifold and direct overflow out that way, right?
I guess it would work at any splitter in the manifold, technically.....?

[normal orbit]

put the smart splitter before the manifold

it wont work at the end

[weak bloom]

oh ok

[normal orbit]

if its at the end, materials will just go there, and hit the overflow cuz they got nowwhere else to go, if you place it first, it will fill manifold normally then hit overflow once the manifold fills up

[weak bloom]

right, makes sense

[west jackal]

umm, you can place it at the end too? just better at the beginning right?

[normal orbit]

you can, it just wont work as intended

[west jackal]

as long as you use smart splitters for every splitter

right any; center overflow, for each splitter

[normal orbit]

well yes, you can make an overflow manifold if you want to i spose

[weak bloom]

I mean if every splitter is smart then sure but that's so much more work and if you mess up the settings on one of them it'll all go to shit

[west jackal]

lol i think i always do overflow manifolgs

manifolds*

[sterile blade]

If you set up the first one and "eyedrop" it, there's no room for error (the copies have all the same settings/customization as the eyedropped item)

[weak bloom]

true

[west jackal]

eyedrop?

[weak bloom]

I guess the benefit to doing it that way would just be having an overflow output at the end of the manifold rather than needing to do it at the beginning like my initial question

[sterile blade]

"Sample building"?

[weak bloom]

middle mouse, the duplicate existing item thingy

[west jackal]

shi thats a thing?

[weak bloom]

yeah middle mouse click on anything and it'll turn the build gun to building that

it's SO useful. it also copies the item settings

[west jackal]

didnt know that was a thing

[sterile blade]

Smart splitters allow you to overflow anywhere you want if set up correctly

[weak bloom]

...I was about to sink my excess rotor production and now that I see smart splitters use it, I might shove it into a dimensional depot instead LOL

looks like I don't need to keep stators around for crafting any buildings or whatnot though

[sterile blade]

You can still... overflow the overflow
(Ie: 2 smart splitters)

[simple pebble]

Yeah nothing needs stators besides like, the MAM

They're only needed to make bigger components

[west jackal]

rotors are very important to dim depot, they are used a lot

as far as stators? no need to dim, but having some on hand if you are going to handfeed space elevator is a good idea

i just did it for phase 3

[untold zealot]

Silly question - if I've crafted Stun Rebar, but my gun has Iron Rebar, how do I switch between the two?

[proven snow]

If on PC I believe you hold R

[normal orbit]

hold R

[untold zealot]

Ah, that did it! Thanks

[jagged nymph]

grassy fields spawn eh?

wait why did it put me so far back in the chat when i clicked the server

[hollow lance]

Yeah, you start with a big network/graph and each switch sections off a piece of it. Hmmm, never thought about it, but I guess you could assign a name to that original network portion by installing a priority switch "backwards".

[sinful roost]

When the devs were sitting around planning fixonium how hard were they laughing when someone suggested 10 singularity cells?

[jagged nymph]

not that hard

i imagine

i mean its 1 pasta for 10 cells

[hollow lance]

Isn't it 1:1 cells to ficsonium?

[sinful roost]

Listen I don't have pasta laying around like screws over here pal

[jagged nymph]

yeah, so its 1 pasta to 10 ficsonium

[sinful roost]

😭 it's fine. The factory will grow

[weak bloom]

all elevator parts are only used in future elevator parts, right? don't need any of them in the dimensional depot at all?

[jagged nymph]

nope, the only space elevator part thats used for other stuff is nuclear pasta

although do note, early space elevatory parts are required to make the later ones

[hollow lance]

Just how fast are you creating plutonium waste?!?

[weak bloom]

yeah I'll put them into a storage container, just not also into a dimensional depot

[jagged nymph]

or just automate enough of them, you dont need a ton unless you just want to automate alot as a challenge

[weak bloom]

they're part of a big factory making basically all of stage 3 plus a few other components that I had the resources for nearby. so I'll just put one container of those and sink the overflow along with all the other stuff being stored+sunk
gonna manually feed the adaptive control unit and automate that somewhere else later for stage 4 though.

[hollow lance]

The other thing to do with nuclear waste is to put a bunch of storage crates in a "not a place of honor"

[jagged nymph]

im gonna process into plutonium rods but im just gonna sink those i dont feel like messing with ficsonium

[near mural]

steel frame modular frame alt recipe worth using? im in grass fields with alot of limestone nearby so i was thinking of using it for molded pipes and beams

but it also seems just as easy to just use rods

[acoustic bear]

steel frame, encased pipe and heavy encased frames makes HMF super easy

makes it steel pipe, concrete and reinforced plate in various combos

then you got options for making steel pipe as well and the reinforced plate

I'd do reinforced plate as stitched plate and make iron wire for easy one input reinforced plates

[coral marsh]

Im gonna try and produce a little extra ficsonium so I can make ficsonium singularities along side my modded alt recipe bolted singularities for the alien power augmentors and teleporters.

[near mural]

should i save some of the limestone in my area then? im not quite at hmf yet and im making a factory to fill containers and depots with basic parts for machines

[acoustic bear]

you're gonna need hella concrete and limestone also makes for a good alloy with iron or copper to get more ingots

it's all around useful tbh

[humble plank]

@zach the best alt for HMF is the heavy encased frame (IMO)

[coral marsh]

That one is fun, I used it mostly as well

[humble plank]

@zach the reason for this is because it uses fewer modular frames per HMF, and modulear frames are a PITA

[acoustic bear]

heavy encased frames, steel frames and encased pipes

[jagged nymph]

they aint that bad tbh

[acoustic bear]

boils HMF down to like 3-4 components

[humble plank]

so to avoid making more modular frames, the heavy encased frame can be used so you dont have to make as many modular frames

[jagged nymph]

i mean i agree that encased is the best

but not cause less modular frames

its cause limestone is abundant and doesnt have a ton of uses

[coral marsh]

Molded pipes is a lovely recipe, especially when paired with coke steel ingots

[acoustic bear]

lack of screws and conservation of copper is a big one

it's all iron and concrete and coal

[jagged nymph]

yeah

the only downside is the numbers arent easy to work with

but thats not too big of a deal

[acoustic bear]

you're never gonna get more than low double digit HMF anyways

per minute that is

if you got 10 HMF pm that's significant

[jaunty jewel]

unless you want to do that

[jagged nymph]

im gonna do like 25 in my next save

[coral marsh]

Idk if you guys like using mods, but theres one specific mod i use that adds in "heated" recipes for reinforced iron plates and all modular frames except for fused. They're blender recipes except for the reinforced plate recipe which is a foundry use

They all use fuel, liquid or packaged to make way more per minute

[jaunty jewel]

that sounds kinda cool maybe

[coral marsh]

It is very cool, want me to get images of the recipes for you?

[humble plank]

if your gonna do nuclear, u need lots of HMF to make FMF to make PCC... youll be happy if your making HMF in quantities if you want to process nuclear waste..

[jaunty jewel]

you dont need pcc for plut rods

[jaunty jewel]

go for it

[humble plank]

@glitch you dont?

[weak bloom]

if I delete a splitter and place another one back in the same location, will it auto-reconnect to the belts or do I need to re-belt it?

[coral marsh]

Gimmie a min ~

[weak bloom]

oh it's not working I gotta reconnect

[jaunty jewel]

you can use the default recipe which is steel beams, ecr (?) and something else i forgot + plut cells

which are plut pellets + concrete iirc i havent done it in a while

pcc is just used in the alt which i think gives you more plut rods per minute? these are some of the only recipes i dont know basically by heart

[hollow lance]

If you use mods, take a look at https://ficsit.app/mod/AutoLink

[normal orbit]

Yes plutonium fuel units is like 50% more Vs standard I think

[jaunty jewel]

those recipes look unbalanced, like the frame one doesnt look that good but the rip one looks insanely good

[coral marsh]

Plutonium fuel rods produce at 0.25 per minute, plutonium fuel units produce at 1 per minute

[coral marsh]

Which frame

[jaunty jewel]

regular, heat fused frame (fmf) is a base game recipe

idk about the hmf one

[normal orbit]

No they do it at 0.5/min but also use more cells. Iirc it's 50% more fuel rod per fuel cell

[coral marsh]

My bad, was looking at the wrong recipe

You are right, 0.5 per minute, I forgot I have moved oxide recipes from a mod lol

[west jackal]

fnally got the gosh darn diluted packaged alt

[jaunty jewel]

also just looking at the output wont tell you how "good" a recipe is

[west jackal]

i dont have to live off batteries

[humble plank]

The nice thing about the pluto fuel unit recipie is its made in an assembler, and its the end product (the rod you use in the plant), and its easy to sloop in an assembler (just 2 sloops, and not a huge power drain, etc..),,, So you can double your pluto plants just by slooping the end product in an assembler or two...

making way more energy for you than the extra energy used to sloop/overclock those assemblers, etc..

[jaunty jewel]

yeah, but if you do use plut plants you dont have waste free (not that thats needed thats just something people generally go for)

[humble plank]

but your right, the basic pluto unit doesnt use pressure cubes...

well, then make ficsonium from that to get rid of the waste, etc.. (which you need singularity cells which use pasta which uses pressure cubes too)..

[normal orbit]

I would not sloop plutonium...

[jaunty jewel]

ficsonium is net power loss though (i think), also not possible without phase 9 anyways

[normal orbit]

That is Wildly incorrect

[humble plank]

anyhow there are 3 ways to go with nuclear... 1) Make uranium only and store waste, 2) make uranium and process to plutonium and sink, 3) go through the whole cycle (uraniun -> plutonium -> ficsonium) and have no waste leftover or sink stuff..

I think its good to go through the whole cycle... but it is a lot of work, sure...

and ya, your not gonna get to ficsonium until phase 9, so if your in lower stage and you want to use nuclear, your either going to store waste for a while, or sink plutonium for a while ..

[coral marsh]

Weakest of the nuclear options, it exists as a way to deal with plutonium waste and singularity cells

[jaunty jewel]

well yeah i know that, i just swear its net power loss or an incredibly small power gain

it also uses a lot of sam

[humble plank]

its a slight power gain, but the purpose of it is to get rid of the waste really..

[coral marsh]

Really does lol

[normal orbit]

Considering it allows you to burn plutonium Vs sinking it. It's actually a huge power gain

[jaunty jewel]

no? you can just store plut waste

[humble plank]

@normal orbit yes, if you consider that in the equation, its a significant power gain...

[jaunty jewel]

just becuase you can get rid of plut waste doesnt mean its required to burn plut rods

plut plants produce so little waste per min that you would need to wait literal years to fill enough storage containers with them

[humble plank]

well , its sorta sucky to store the nuclear waste, and you have to alwayas keep on top of it (i.e. add more storage forever for it)... Some folks do it that way though, and thats fine...

and ya, pluto plants produce far less waste

[jaunty jewel]

you do NOT have to keep adding storage to it

[humble plank]

you dont?

it fills up eventually

... or you could use SCIM to edit it out I suppose 🙂

... kind-of a cheat though (well, not kind-of even)

[normal orbit]

My nuclear plant makes 224 plutonium waste/min that's 13.440/h and 322.560 in a day. The amount of storage needed is yes.

[jaunty jewel]

lets say you make 80 plut waste per min (from 80 regular clock npps, using 8 plut rods) , that takes 6.25 minutes to fill 1 stack out of 48 meaning to fill just 1 container, it takes 5 hours
i cant remember how many industrial containers you can fit in one blueprint but its a lot

[jaunty jewel]

224 npps worth of plut is insane to begin with but thats not unstorable

thats around 13 and a half industrial containers every 24 hours, but realistically you are not playing 24 hours a day and 13 containers isnt really that much

[humble plank]

@jaunty jewel if you have a dedicated server running the world 24/7, it will fill up eventually (and when you are asleep) ...

[jaunty jewel]

turn off the server then lol

[humble plank]

then you get to log into a dead world 😉

[jaunty jewel]

or just dont play on a server (obviously not applicable if playing with friends)

[humble plank]

well, okay... But Id rather have fun, keep the server running and producing stuff, and make ficsonium 😉

[jaunty jewel]

i mean yeah you can do that but i can guarantee you most players wont do that

[normal orbit]

I played around 400 hours after making that. That would be 225 containers. Yea naw. Imma process it

[humble plank]

I think most players (in general) don't try nuclear to begin with...

most players don't get past coal.

[jaunty jewel]

yeah fair enough but you also gotta consider most people arent gonna make 224 npps worth of plutonium lol

it would take barely any time to place that many containers and you can hide it if you dont like how it looks but if you wanna do ficsonium go for it

ficsonium itself is not massive net power gain, its plutonium

[normal orbit]

Burning plutonium added around 580gw and the ficsonium 280gw.

[humble plank]

to each their own, but my main purpose in ficsonium is just to get rid of the waste (at that point I have so much power from the plutonium plants that I dont care about power at that point)...

[normal orbit]

The entire plant from ore to ficsonium used around 300gw

The uranium fuel rods were 630gw

[jaunty jewel]

and how much of that was just making the ficsonium parts

[normal orbit]

1490gw of power at a cost of 300gw is well worth

[jaunty jewel]

1210 without ficsonium for a lot less cost

just the qes and accelerators for ficsonium and rods without factoring in anything else that needs to be made averages almost 70gw

[normal orbit]

Closer to a 100gw I guess

Still only a third from the gain

[jaunty jewel]

the particle accelerators needed for the past for the cells adds another 44gw

just the particle accelerators mind you

[normal orbit]

The pasta is counted in

[jaunty jewel]

to make that much copper powder (using pure) uses another 21gw from just refineries, alloy 4gw

not going to work out cost for pcc because theres many ways to make them

which trigon recipe did you use

ficsite *

[normal orbit]

Not counted in that is trigons and pressure cubes cuz they in aluminium plant which is 250ish gw but it supplies so much else

[jaunty jewel]

what trigon recipe did you use

[normal orbit]

Aluminium

Used least sam

Still had to sloop

[last bluff]

I scrolled up. People actually don't like processing plutonium?

[coral marsh]

Some dont

Personally, I have always loved physics, all realms of it. So nuclear power fascinates the hell out of me

[last bluff]

I mean thematics aside

[normal orbit]

You can prob make any argument to skew it one way or another. I had zero plans to store waste. So having a net gain of like 600gw was worth it for me. If someone wanna store waste and find arguements to do it's their perogative. It's not something I'd ever consider. I don't wanna go make more storage or risk things shutting down cuz they filled up. I rather forget it and just make more power. Sides I really had fun setting up ficsonium even tho I wish there was more bauxite and Sam on the map

[weak bloom]

all right I'm FINALLY actually making the phase 3 parts

[last bluff]

Plutonium wasn't easier to wrap my head around the first time I had to work on that so I'm mostly surprised someone who likes getting to that then doesn't go full way

[jagged nymph]

yeah, plut isnt that bad tbh

[normal orbit]

Plutonium is fairly easy to make. Ficsonium is only bad due to the ficsite trigons honestly

[topaz shale]

I've never actually gotten into nuclear. If I ever decide to try to replay this game, I might try to go full in to nuclear. Could be fun to set up.

Though just trying to convince myself to try to finish the game is a bit tough lol. I have done like 3 or 4 attempted playthroughs and have never actually gotten to the end.

[near mural]

if i have 4 rip assemblers manifold into 5 modular frame assemblers do i need to fill up the modular frame assemblers with rips before itl work properly?

[fluid sapphire]

if you want it to fire on all cylinders right off the bat then yes, if you can keep yourself otherwise occupied, it makes no difference, it'll spin up eventually

[near mural]

thank you

[zinc lily]

yall will i need smart plating/volatile framework/automated wire after phase 2? i have factories for all three and im hoping they'll be useful later on

[normal orbit]

Yes they used to make next parts

[jaunty jewel]

i like processing plutonium, i do not like processing ficsonium

[zinc lily]

ah ok good to know thank you <3

[coral glacier]

Ficosonium is an overcomplicated trash can.

[jaunty jewel]

yeah although i want to try it at some point

i just also really dont want to

[coral glacier]

I'm not saying it isn't useful, because it is when you don't want to deal with storing massive amounts of waste that will eventually fill. It's just complicated

[last bluff]

Does someone have a general idea or screenshot of how how to use balancers and lay down belts in tight spaces? Like 3m hidden away tight for rebalancing, and personal per-item physical storage for laying down belts kind of tight

[jaunty jewel]

why make overcomplicated trash can when you can make easy trash can that also takes up less space and uses 0 power

[normal orbit]

Less complicated more just resource intensive tbh

[mortal ginkgo]

plutonium got really low amount of waste that you can make a setup to store them easily for like 10k hour play time.

If you played this game for 10k hours... well... game is good I guess. 👍

[jaunty jewel]

too resource intensive for my playstyle lol

[shrewd raven]

I always tell myself, I’m gonna finally do a full run through of the game (little do I know I get creeped up on once I hit coal power and cannot continue) 💔

[normal orbit]

Setting up 5000 storage boxes sound positively dreadful. Refining it is more fun :p

[last bluff]

I don't know if I'm stupid enough to have had issues processing plutonium in vanilla, or if I'm intelligent/autistic/whatever enough to find it fun to make fiscosium and find it about as complex

[shrewd raven]

Im sorry but your name and profile caught me SO off guard and it’s cracking me up 😭

[last bluff]

Actually, who here can relate to the slight feeling of brain not work when doing anything with multiple inputs or outputs? Actual complexity doesn't matter

[mortal ginkgo]

kek 😭👍

[jagged nymph]

im like "alrright he have 25/m here, 400/m here, 255/m here, wait this first one was.. 35/m i think?? wait i need to start over counting"

[fluid sapphire]

4m sign go brr

[jaunty jewel]

i forget literally everything im doing in this game lol

[fluid sapphire]

i have most of my stuff in sftools in different tabs

[topaz shale]

Same here though the last time I played, I have gotten decently far. Gotten to the last tier but then got burnt out and stopped playing. That was a few months ago lol

[jaunty jewel]

even if i make stuff in modeler i still forget it all immediately

[fluid sapphire]

if its modular and you know the outputs the internals dont really matter later

[jagged nymph]

i dont have a problem with building stuff, its just planning it to make the numbers work out right thats difficult

[fluid sapphire]

dont do it manually then

[near mural]

am in phase rn making a factory for basic parts ( modular frames rotors ect ) with plans on putting everything into storage and depots rn i only have abt one constructor or assembler making things to go into depots do yall think thatl be enough or should i expand before i finish the rest of the factory?

[jagged nymph]

wdym

[fluid sapphire]

use something like sftools, tell it the recipes, give it the target number of products and select recipes, let it do the math for you

[jagged nymph]

yeah i know

i do that, but figuring out the right numbers to use byproducts n stuff

[fluid sapphire]

but yeah if you're working on a large enough system it gets a bit complicated

[jagged nymph]

or like i dont like having machines clocked to like.. 128.928% oe some random number

[jaunty jewel]

i prefer modeler anyways

[fluid sapphire]

i did most of my phase 4 planning over a span of several weeks, tweaking things here and there

sure

to some extent its inevitable

i try to have nice numbers too

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Uyn1IC17imIMIytmKGw1

sometimes i round up and sink the extra garbage
#screenshots message

[zealous urchin]

hello chat

[near mural]

any way to make automating high speed connectors less awkward

[dense violet]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-how-dare-you-dont-speak-to-me-how-dare-you-speak-to-me-gif-17332672

😛

[dense violet]

what are you using them for?

[zealous urchin]

😆

good one

[near mural]

i dont have anything to make with them rn im jst making a factory for getting things into dimensional depots

[dense violet]

ah I tend to avoid having to make them with the right alt recipes xD

but you can make them with JUST caterium and oil if you want

[near mural]

that seems alot easier than the base recipe

[dense violet]

adding some silica from a source though does cut your caterium costs down though if that's important

[near mural]

im on tier 6 rn so i dont have much of a need for caterium atm but i will keep that in mind ty

[dense violet]

something like this works well? https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=VMjNRBjRK9mMvjS9gcDM

[near mural]

are stators used in anything on their own aside from motors?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch stator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=stator

[near mural]

this is very nice ty

[zealous urchin]

ahhh electronic parts

im way more of a frame chain guy

[dense violet]

frame chain?

[near mural]

frame chain?

[jaunty jewel]

modular frame

[zealous urchin]

modular frame to nucular pasta

[near mural]

thats far beyond me 😭

[zealous urchin]

and that singularity cell

[near mural]

!wikisearch computer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=computer

[zealous urchin]

what put me off abt them was that i insisted on using distilled silica

then having issues with water byproduct and splitting that silica accordingly for circuit boards and hsconnectocors

[reef basin]

fyi there's a search box on the wiki, so you don't have to type it here

[near mural]

sorry it was convient at the time 😭

[dense violet]

not a huge issue xD just pointing it out.
the search function is a good way to direct people to the wiki for basics like that

or bringing the eternal coal generator layouts for new people

[last bluff]

Wait that's a thing?

!wikisearch bosscrab

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=bosscrab

[last bluff]

😭 😭 wrong way around 😭 😭

[dawn mist]

Eyyyyyy
For transporting crude by train, fluid vs oil barrels?

[jagged nymph]

i prefer oil barrels

[weak bloom]

build a pipeline under the train track

[jagged nymph]

but its up to you

[jagged nymph]

you can also recycle the containers

ship em back to the input

[dense violet]

if you know how to buffer them properly it works out to be basically the same

[jagged nymph]

more throughput on barrels

[weak bloom]

does time of day affect anything mechanically in the game or am I good just leaving it stuck at noon using skyui?

[jagged nymph]

nope, just visual

actually i think more spiders spawn at night but nothing about actual automation

[weak bloom]

oh good more reasons to keep it daytime

[jagged nymph]

lol

[dense violet]

depends on your current belt speeds but yeah

[jagged nymph]

true

[dense violet]

honestly mk6 belts just kinda made trains a little awkward xD
with mk5s you generally could just do 1 belt per platform and let it rip

but mk6 belts fill them up too fast so often need 2 platforms per belt

[last bluff]

I like fluid trains because I like the look of them but I do wish trains were a bit smarter and had proper ways to get a full railway supported Factorio style

Though that's an issue I have with trains in general

[jagged nymph]

fluid cars need to be buffed

maybe they will since were getting fluid trucks

i wonder if fluid drones 🤔

[last bluff]

How big of a problem would fluid cars be if you could just really congest the railway system with a lot of trains everywhere?

[jagged nymph]

huh

[dense violet]

why? they work out to be about the same as solid cars in terms of throughput

[untold zealot]

Erh, before I make poor decisions - I just teched into Steel, and it wants Coal+Iron. I can either drag Iron to the Coal area, or drag Coal down to the Iron area. The Coal area has a lot of water near it. Does anything in the Steel-tech require Water?

[deft drum]

Neg

[last bluff]

I am really doubtful of the ability of drones to carry a lot of fluid... Time to have each drone lift about 2m²?

[dense violet]

save the coal next to water for power

[dense violet]

but honestly, if you have a look around you should be able to find iron+coal in the same spot easily

the most common combo

[untold zealot]

Hmm. I picked the Rocky desert start

[deft drum]

The best steel ingot recipie is "Solid Steel Ingot" which uses Iron Ingots instead of Iron Ore and gives you more steel per both raw inputs

[dense violet]

top left of RD is prob the best bet for just steel then 🙂

lots of iron+coal there

SE and NE of Rock des you have some good power spots

[untold zealot]

Top left is... North West on the map then I guess?

[deft drum]

Yeah north west, 2 hundred or so meters from the coast

[dense violet]

only about 300m between iron and coal

[dense violet]

on the NE there's 1 iron node mixed with a bunch of coal as well, much closer. But imo that's a solid spot for power

[untold zealot]

.... Uuuugh that's a lot of walking

[dense violet]

300m is nothing ❤️

[untold zealot]

I'll probably build it up there and pipe it into my main base then

[dense violet]

you'll get used to it 🙂

[deft drum]

Bunny hopping

[untold zealot]

Oh, sorry, I meant mostly from where everything else I've built is

[dense violet]

oh that's fair as well - the game kinda forces you to create outposts like this

[deft drum]

Learning to bunny hop make moving around so better

Also find some quarts to make some Blade Runners from the MAM

[dense violet]

oh yeah, if you haven't researched MAM stuff get on that asap

[untold zealot]

Oh I did! It involved poison trees, hidden cave entrances and a lot of spider-monsters. Not a great time!

[dense violet]

worth it though!

[last bluff]

Sadly bunny hop makes it REALLY hard to change direction

What I'd recommend is doing near-perfect crouch jumping so you can slide jump up slopes

[deft drum]

That Yes Man avatar made that sentence so much more funny

[deft drum]

Damnit got my terminology mixed up

Meant crouch jumping

[last bluff]

Also you can parachute up slopes and keep your momentum which is really funny

Everywhere where you have those arches, that gets you more height than jetpack for free

[untold zealot]

I did see that one of the upcoming milestones is the Hyperloop though, so that'll (maybe?) help me get around - but out of curiosity, should I pipe stuff into a main depo of sorts? I feel I'm reaching critical mass in how much I need to walk around to pick up stuff

[dense violet]

well hyper tubes are useful, but once you make an outpost and connect it up you probably don't need to go back and forth all the time

[deft drum]

There's a very specific rare resource you want to get your hands on

[dense violet]

as for a 'central storage' ? not really.

its basically always more work trying to create a central depot than just hitting up a few spots along your hyper tube set up

[deft drum]

Or using the ||Dimensional depot||

[untold zealot]

Fair enough. I can probably place some storage containers a bit closer to eachother to make pickups easier

[spare prism]

Where can I find Sam ore from dessert biome?

[deft drum]

Dune or rocky?

[spare prism]

Starter area

[last bluff]

A main area to get your resources from is a good idea yes, even with some standard storage containers (unless you REALLY need containers full of stuff to build)

[deft drum]

North west or north east?

[last bluff]

Though for depots that's less relevant

[elder oracle]

The giant arch in the starter area

they should really make the map more random for everyone

[spare prism]

Towards the edge

[dense violet]

usually the way to go 🙂 unlock smart splitters and over flow to them

[elder oracle]

[last bluff]

We all go to the same planet tho

[elder oracle]

Ik that

[dense violet]

its possible they are doing a node shuffle mode in the update?

[deft drum]

There are 2 desert biomes

[elder oracle]

but like switch up where each biome is

[untold zealot]

I think I saw it in the tech tree and went "Oh well that'll make me change everything ahahaha lets wait with that"

[spare prism]

There is node randomizer

[last bluff]

Honestly I'd pay for a DLC which is just a much smaller smaller map you can either visit or start on

Could even make it random

[dense violet]

not so much?
the game is heavily focused on A to B production. Dedicated lines.
smart splitters just gives you more options

[spare prism]

Oh no we each Gunna have different work

[dense violet]

doesn't bother me much. I think the nodes as they are give lots of specific chalenges and paths to work factories

[last bluff]

I wish we had smart... What's the opposite of splitter again?

[south sinew]

merger

and there are smart mergers since 1.1

[last bluff]

Where they? I did not unlock them?

[ornate saffron]

After a hour of trouble shooting.... I found on lillte belt not connected lol FML

everytime

[south sinew]

in the MAM somewhere just like smart splitters

don't remember where

[ornate saffron]

they are called priority mergers

[last bluff]

Wait you can actually unlock crash site scanning?

Also oops I kinda forgot to do my MAM

[spare prism]

Guys I can't find Sam ore

[last bluff]

And now I spoilered myself

[south sinew]

there's lots of good stuff in the MAM

[ornate saffron]

where did you start?

[jagged nymph]

it seems there isnt a limit to the amount of cars in one train

[south sinew]

it's basically always placed in some inconvenient and hidden location

[spare prism]

The desert

[jagged nymph]

check the scim

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[spare prism]

It's all black

[south sinew]

the black is the parts you haven't been to yet

[spare prism]

i think im near some

[south sinew]

the screenshot he posted is of the fully-revealed map

[spare prism]

yea

I found river

[wispy osprey]

The full map takes a good few hours to explore manually

[spare prism]

OMG I JUST SCREAMED

i fell down a hole almost out of map

[low ingot]

yeah, theres like 5 of those around the map

[spare prism]

bruh i had no building stuff

[dense violet]

always have building stuff when you're wandering around! 😄

[low ingot]

FICSIT does not have Life Insurance Policy so please be mindful

[spare prism]

dont worry i asked in LFG for help

[ornate saffron]

you are Ficsit property.

Do no damage Ficsit property

[spare prism]

i play modded game so if i reset or die I lose 50% of items in my storage and 2 stuff become unresearched

[feral jay]

Remember, fall damage is not covered by your Pioneer Health Plan. Nor is pioneer health!

[ornate saffron]

you dont need to mod to play hardcore.

i can tell you how to soft lock your game so when you die you go into a infinite death loop

[spare prism]

bruh no

[feral jay]

Even then you can just laod a save

[low ingot]

whenever i die, i load the last save.. "ain't nobody got time for that"

them spiders be chasing me on the power lines through the jungle

[proven snow]

Love hardcore mode in games.

Satisfactory isnt particularly well suited for it but still alright.

In Satis I prefer to make challenges to make factory building / logistics tougher tho

[feral jay]

The "Days since last incident" in my world is also "Game days since start" lol

[last bluff]

the player being "damaged" by some made up... bad air(?)... is laughable to me

why would a yellow rock "damage" you just because you see it?

and it "radiates" what? my basement is just as dark

[spare prism]

OMG im saved, autosave helped me out but 2 of my auto saved was stuck in hole

[ornate saffron]

look into radon poisoning in canada. Its pretty common and it happens as the rocks beneath or feet decay releasing Radon. then it gets trappeed in basement and people can be poisoned from it and even die

[spare prism]

@ornate saffron im trying to unlock where I can put sloomersloop in constructor

[last bluff]

hardcore mode would be really fun but I'd be afraid I'd never ever expand and get stuck in phase 1, maybe 2? imagine going afk in a place up high you think is safe and after your death, you discover there was a crab nest just out the way

[ivory zinc]

Impossible to get stuck with the respawn function

[last bluff]

I assume that's why it isn't a thing

[ornate saffron]

i ghathered. That why i shared the cave map

[proven snow]

I have a hard time imagining going afk, not something I like to do in games

[spare prism]

I said I play modded game so if I respawn I lose 50% of my items in my storage and 2 random stuff becomes unresearched

[last bluff]

I live on my own so things happen sometimes

[spare prism]

I only go AFK in games that pause

[proven snow]

Yeah in non pause games I just log out

But Thats just preference

[spare prism]

I remember I went afk in a game that didn't pause and I came back to a dead screen

[feral jay]

Don't ya just love it when a pipe system behaves completely differently after you laod a save? I was staring at this system for a solid two hours yesterday and it was stable. Tonight, the moment I load this save, it's fucked up again

[proven snow]

Satis is very log out friendly. Doesnt cancel any buffs or reset stuff

[feral jay]

And people say fluids aren't janky

[near mural]

after accounting for ai limiters stators and computers my copper setup is scarily small compared to iron and i feel like im missing smth 😭

[spare prism]

Copper can only make cable and sheetz until you get alternative recipes

[last bluff]

oh I've been afk a few times deliberately when the gi- GIANT ENEMY SPIDERS (dun dun) would walk back into my base in the slim chance of escape

dying with indignity, to not watch the spiders

[dense violet]

to be fair, you do less than stable set ups. Every fluid thing I've seen you do are delicate balancing acts

[near mural]

am i gonna need more soon? (i just recently got oil) i have alot of space i can leave to expand my copper for later if needed

[spare prism]

I'm wrong person to ask lol

[dense violet]

more alts or more cable?

[last bluff]

WE NEED MORE CABLE

[feral jay]

This is a relatively simple 600/min refinery farm to 600/min generator farm setup

[dense violet]

I remember your last fuel set up I was helping you fix 😛

[feral jay]

lol

[dense violet]

You go into it knowing youre doing a house of card sset up, as long as you're aware that's the case , you do you

[feral jay]

Same setup, still working the bugs out, it's overflowing where it shouldn't be but that might be due to a bit of sloshing

[near mural]

copper products in general ill have a constructor making cable for personal use and some for computers i also have my sheets being produced and im left with much more space than i originally thought

[dense violet]

when you hit electronics youll likely need more copper sheets

[feral jay]

The only "house of cards" bit in this setup is actually pushing pipes to the max

[abstract heron]

With time change next weekend does CSS still on there time will they do that later in month?

[near mural]

okay thank you ill leave this space open then

[stone scarab]

my tummy hurts after i ated all the mark 2 belts in my factory..

[dense violet]

nah that's fine, as long as you're keeping it direct and simple.

You're keeping it direct and simple aren't you 😛

[feral jay]

Yeah, refineries producing 600/min that feed a generator farm that consumes 600/min

[dense violet]

1 pipe to one floor?

cough cough

[stone scarab]

: O

[feral jay]

1 pipe to two floors, 40 generators per floor

[dense violet]

and that is a wobbly option to pick. Not impossible. But definitely annoying

[stone scarab]

hol up launching satisfactory rn lemme check ts

[last bluff]

so now I know that priority mergers exist

I now have the slight urge to make an input container for the full inventory which then brings each item to the respective machine for processing

[dense violet]

I've done it a few times but I always regret it

[feral jay]

Honestly this would all be so much less frustrating if I was just given more information

It's not that pipes are difficult. But I do find them rather opaque

[dense violet]

you're getting back flow at junctions which becomes worse when you have branched manifolds over different elevations

that's all the information that is useful honestly.

[feral jay]

No I mean from the pipe system itself, not from other players lol

[dense violet]

because if you're getting back flow at sections it won't help even if you have infinite pumps at every point along hte pipe

I know what you mean xD

the whole of the solution is a layout that avoids multi floor manifolds because they are delicate flowers that wilt when you look at them wrong

[feral jay]

I suppose I could change it up to 80 generators per floor, I'm planning to double it anyway

[dense violet]

I do seem to recall suggesting at one point just extending the floors to avoid it

but you were pretty determined

which is fair

people have goals

[feral jay]

And my gut tells me the same thing yours does, that the elevation changes inttroduce imperfections

[ivory zinc]

Ugh i dont know how to design my factory aestheically

[dense violet]

I like bottom feeding pipes and THATS not something I suggest to people

[feral jay]

No no, I'm determined to run it at 600/min. Particularly how I do that is less important

[dense violet]

ok make it one floor

with a proper loop and flooding theres very little that can go wrong

[last bluff]

I'd primarily advocate for a simpler design as that means less resources and energy needed to work with throughput, if you need to redesign it anyway

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture is good place for that? you can post images and talk techniques and tricks 🙂

[last bluff]

or actually follow Cobalt's advice as that's less vague and more helpful

[ivory zinc]

Ontop idk how much aluminium im gonna need

[dense violet]

process a node or two and then go from there 🙂

[last bluff]

all of it

[dense violet]

don't future proof, it's just a waste of time and thinking

[last bluff]

fun tho

[feral jay]

And I'm pretty sure the issue isn't actually with the generators. I put in an overflow packager to check if anything actually overflowed from the refineries. In 4 or so hours AFK, the refineries didn't overflow, but the generators still starved. That tells me the issue is actually with my refinery setup

The frustrating thing I jumped in with today is that as soon as I laoded up the game today, it started overflowing, after 2 or 3 or 4 hours of not doing that yesterday

And it was immediate

It could even be a game startup thing and if I loaded up the game from further away it wouldn't be an issue

[spare prism]

@ornate saffron so im lost lol i cant find it

[dense violet]

over flow packager could be another source of back flow on a line :\

[feral jay]

Oh I'm aware

[dense violet]

if not set up right slapping one on a fuel manifold causes a mess

and an overflow packager probably won't help avoid the stutter in any case

knock back will stutter the producers very easily

[feral jay]

#screenshots message

Interestingly, I closed those valves to let the system settle a bit. Ten minutes later I opened them, and now those pipes aren't overflowing any more

So this might well actually be a bug with bootstrapping things on load

I'd have to make it repeatable though to prove that

[dense violet]

thank you for exposing me to a new pipe horror.

[feral jay]

Most of the pipes you see are empty

[dense violet]

oh I know, but two pipes connected up with valves is delitefully painful 😛

[feral jay]

It's 9 refineries producing 360 heavy oil -> 7.2 blenders producing 720 fuel -> 32 refineries producing 600 turbofuel, but with enough space for four of those chains

Oh the valves on the overflow, I could eliminate those, I'd just need a packager for each feed pipe

I should do that

[dense violet]

I'm still pretty sure it's not going to work as an effective overflow to stop backflow from stuttering production

which is the main issue

[feral jay]

That's not its purpose actually, it's just there so I know whether it's the generators not consuming enough fuel, or the refineries not producing enough

[dense violet]

that's what I mean though, if they aren't consuming enough it's likely a flow issue

[feral jay]

If it's the generators not consuming enough, then some turbofuel should overflow. But if it's the refineries not producing enough, then it won't overflow

well, theoretically, anyway

[dense violet]

and if it's a flow issue it probably won't use the overflow

[feral jay]

True enough, pipe overflows are already pretty jank

[dense violet]

the simplest and least likely to fuck your system method to detect flow is just basic logic and simple pipes

Fuel gens starving and Fuel producers clogged?
flow issue
fuel gens starving and all the fuel producers running fine? probably math issue

[feral jay]

In any case, putting that overflow didn't make things worse

[dense violet]

there's a shocking number of things you can do with pipes where the best result can be not making things worse xD

[feral jay]

But it could absolutely prevent me from making things better if it's a latent issue it's causing

[dense violet]

which bit could prevent you?

[feral jay]

If it introduces some other issue that doesn't manifest itself except under specific circumstances

It's absolutely a flow issue I'm having, the question is whether that flow issue is caused by the refinery manifold, or the generator manifold

(or some combination of both but I'm leaning towards the refineries right now)

[dense violet]

you mean the extra bits and bobs you add sometimes?

I don't think "If it introduces some other issue that doesn't manifest itself except under specific circumstances" is a good reason to have those systems in - if thsoe systems are what's causing the problem, simply not having them solves things and you don't need to design the rest of your system around them

like you CAN have buffers in line in a system and make it work

make sure everything is flooded, there's a pump before and after the buffer, and it will likely cause zero harm

but that doesn't mean you need to change a system in case you do want to put a buffer in

[feral jay]

It's a temporary thing anyway. The fact that it doesn't generally overflow tells me that any flow issue is backing up my production, not my consumption

[dense violet]

sure but that's basically always the case in every single flow situation

[feral jay]

Yeah but I'm a dumbass who built a multi-floor generator farm

[dense violet]

still.
if you have flow issues it's almost always 100% of the time how you're feeding the next step

I say almost 100% of the time because I've seen some wildly weird and crazy layouts where it was just impossible to really tell what was going on and the fix was to rip it all out

[jagged nymph]

why no half width ramp

[dense violet]

the problems on those were also likely with the consumpion points backflow, but I have no solid evidence so I'm hedging my bets xD

[feral jay]

#screenshots message I'm gonna try feeding the top pipe and looping underneath instead of that, see if that makes a difference (sry fat fingered the enter key)

[dense violet]

are you having problems in this section too?

[feral jay]

This is where I think the issue is, yes

[dense violet]

ok jsut real quick , your fuel generators are starving right?

[feral jay]

Just barely

[dense violet]

are any of your fuel producers ever CLOGGED of output?

[feral jay]

The system as a whole is probably running at 99.5% or so

They do back up yes, as in the internal buffers fill

[dense violet]

ok then you have a flow issue between the producers and consumers at the generators side

now, that doesn't mean you don't ALSO have a problem in the previous step

but if you have a problem in the last step it's basically impossible to diagnose the previous step

as it's artifificially backed up

you need to get to a point wher ethe generators are running fine until the PRODUCERS are starving

[feral jay]

Yeah that was the point of the overflow, it's a diagnostic tool to see whether or not I can actually push 600/min out of those refinery manifolds, and it looks like I can't

[dense violet]

if they end up starving

look, extend the manifold to 1 bigger floor first with a reliable loop set up, flood it, then fiddle with the previous steps

you'll save yourself a ton of time and work

[feral jay]

You mean produce a bit less fuel to begin with and intentionally starve the generators?

[dense violet]

no no, get your flow to your generators working in such a way that, after the system is flooded, teh generators don't starve unless the producers are also starved

that means you've fixed the flow issue to the generators

[feral jay]

heh that's exactly what I'm trying to accomplish lol

[dense violet]

because it sounds like you absolutely have a flow issue between those 2 points and tryign to diagnose a PREVIOUS step before you fix that one will waste time

good, make it one floor, loop and flood it 😛 as you talked about before

then go back to that last image and see if things are ok

[feral jay]

But muh giant powah towah!

[dense violet]

then bring in more oil to make more floors 😛

or, destroy your soul and run 300 pipes to make more floors

[feral jay]

It's certainly worth a shot

[dense violet]

because apparently you're a pipe werewolf and that's your silver

[feral jay]

I do enjoy pushing the game's systems to the limit, yes

[dense violet]

and thats fine. Just dont run 600 pipes on multiple floors. Pipes have a limit to how much they'll let you slap them around

[feral jay]

I could make this easy by doing 550/min generator farms, but that's not challenging enough

[dense violet]

I honestly don't think it would help that much

high flow, not max flow, really don't like being slapped around that way

it might?

but I wouldn't want to do all the work for that and find out you're still having the same issue

[feral jay]

It introduces weird things too, like a pipe running at 600/min even when it's not full, which is usually impossible

[dense violet]

well when you're running less than max flow consumption you'll see average flow rates, and sometimes it can peak to 600, that shouldn't be an issue realy though

[feral jay]

Learned that doing this setup actually, a vertical pipe can run at 600/min regardless of how full it is

At least down

[jagged nymph]

thats a shame. you cat make train tracks gold with caterium finish

[elder oracle]

I am the Immortal MoldyGH

[agile sequoia]

can someone please explain smt to me, i made a world for just myself, no friends nothing, still every now and then my steel factory stops and i wonder why, each bloddy time i come back to the same few, i send a few pics in #screenshots

all smalters are also at 2/3 coal

[topaz shale]

It's bizarre how well satisfactory works on the switch now. I remember when I first tried, it barely ran but now it runs like a charm and plays great!

Hopefully this time I'll actually be able to finish the game.

[feral jay]

You have coal and compacted coal on the same belt. The compacted coal is clogging the input because those foudries can't accept it

[agile sequoia]

it all comes from 1 single coal mine

theres nothing but coal

[feral jay]

You must have accidentally put compacted coal on the belt somehow

[agile sequoia]

or is there any rare chances im missing?

[agile sequoia]

for 6 times now x.x

[feral jay]

They can look quite similar, it was probably just a mistake

[agile sequoia]

ig i get high but not that high

[agile sequoia]

i dont even touch steel

i just let it run and overflow into the sink

it just randomly happens

[feral jay]

Well somehow, compacted coal is winding up on that belt. Every foundry you have a picture of there with the dismantle hover, it's plugged by compacted coal.

[hybrid nymph]

Oof I played for 6 hours last night

I got oil and aluminum fixed, now I get to fix both coal plants

[jagged nymph]

those are rookie numbers

most ive done in one sitting is like 14

[feral jay]

Yep, gotta pump up those numbers

[agile sequoia]

its clean coal look in #screenshots

it should be impossible

[hybrid nymph]

I did 8 hours one time, started at 10PM ended at 6 AM

I am going to expand my power storage

I want 50 batteries

And I want more fuel generators

[agile sequoia]

i got the game about 1 week ago, got 117h (a 8,5/5 job) and my longest was 31h

[hybrid nymph]

I want to produce 20 GW of power, now I need more especially after the base clock speed of my manufacturers has been increased with the vanilla upgrades mod

[agile sequoia]

but on weekends i mostly pull all nighter on any kinda game i like, satisfacty is starting to get a pain tho

[hybrid nymph]

I love this game! 😎

This is my 3rd favorite game of all time

[agile sequoia]

u need to think about everything

[hybrid nymph]

My first being Minecraft

My second being Diablo 3

[agile sequoia]

if put in 1 wrong recipe or mix the lines..

everything is done

[agile sequoia]

minecraft is just the best

i wish i could see my hours on it

[feral jay]

Maybe it should be, but somehow, compacted coal wound up on your coal belt. Try putting a smart splitter on the belt before this factory, and have it split compacted coal off into a sink or container.

[hybrid nymph]

It really is. Mods are the best, I haven't played vanilla since 1.7.2. it's just so damn boring

I have 1200 hours on Minecraft

[agile sequoia]

DAMN

i played vanilla untill.....

idk what netherrite was like 1.16.5

smt like that

[hybrid nymph]

Most recent modpack I played was in 1.18.2

[agile sequoia]

but i also played a lot of modpacks, i 10000% left in love with forever stranded

[hybrid nymph]

I love FTB Infinity. That's my favorite modpack

I still have my FTB Monster world lol 😆

[next ivy]

thats pretty much the last one i played

everything after that my pc couldnt handle until recently

[hybrid nymph]

From 2016, damn that was 10 years ago?! I feel old...

[feral jay]

Hey I just realized I can plop 4 fuel generators at a time already hooked up, if I blueprint them. Sweetness.

[agile sequoia]

i still got my first every console, my ps3, with minecraft and all my worlds... prop a few dogs waiting for me

[ivory zinc]

My wii u gone

What would u even use charcoal and biocoal for

[dense violet]

2 main ideas I've come up with

1. temp production factories, things that spit out ammo - don't need it running all the time and you can just dump whatever you collected on your way out into bins and get bullets and bombs and you can avoid having coal in the system

2. turn pig meat into uranium rods

(or whatever else you want with sam ore)

[feral jay]

My ammo factory runs 100% all the time, but I'm punishing myself this save

(except for gas nobelisk)

[ivory zinc]

I wanna start my no mam run now

[dense violet]

that sounds like the worst thing in the world

[topaz shale]

I'm going to try to get through at least the early stages as fast as I can. Won't be building mega factories for a while other than for the basic building materials.

[ivory zinc]

It is

No sloops no under or over clocking

No alt recipes

No smart splittrrs

[feral jay]

I like my current challenge

No machine is ever allowed to idle

Everything must run at 100%

[ivory zinc]

Thats what im doing without calling it a challenge atm

But just because i want a nice powergraph

The only thing that "idles" are the sinks

[feral jay]

It gets complicated once you have accelerators/converters/etc

I have separate power grids for trains and anything with a variable power draw

[weak bloom]

phase 3 complete \o/ 150 hours in lmao

[hybrid nymph]

I just have 1 power grid for everything. I produce more compacted coal now so that means more turbofuel

I'm thinking of expanding my turbofuel production from 7 refineries to 12

[ivory zinc]

What were u doing the whole time

[hybrid nymph]

Messing around lol 😆

[weak bloom]

side projects, trains, automating bigger factories than I probably needed to at the time

[hybrid nymph]

I have been taking my time with tier 8

It's been slow

[ivory zinc]

Istg

[last bluff]

not sure if this is actually true, or even if they're random, but are crash sites around uranium ores more likely to have no requirement to unlock them?

[hybrid nymph]

I'm at 162 hours and just got to nuclear

[ivory zinc]

If i dont get this alt recipe soon ima crash out

[ivory zinc]

Anything hard to access usually doesnt

[last bluff]

oh I see

[thorny berry]

vi got it on ps5 and im struggling to place a portable mioner any help please?

[weak bloom]

oh wow everything in tiers 7 and 8 depends on aluminum lol

[hybrid nymph]

Sure I can help, what's the issue?

[hybrid nymph]

Yes it does Athena

[thorny berry]

so i crafted a portable miner and eqipped it but its not letting me place it on an iron ore deposit or node

[weak bloom]

darn I thought fuel wells would be sooner than this lol, it's gonna be a while for nitrogen gas too then

[hybrid nymph]

You need A LOT of aluminum sheets and casings

[weak bloom]

ok so bauxite refinement -> control systems -> advanced aluminum production is what I'm gonna focus on I think

[last bluff]

encased uranium cells don't take aluminum, checkmate

[ivory zinc]

Yes which is why ive been researching harddrives for 3 hours now

[hybrid nymph]

Try reloading the game, sounds like a glitch 😕

[ivory zinc]

Craft it put it in your hand slot and press r2

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah what Rice said

Try putting it in your hand slot

[ivory zinc]

Im not getting the alt i need

[thorny berry]

ok thanks i got it to work

[next ivy]

you got the research unlocked, and are not picking the alts right `?

[hybrid nymph]

Welcome 🙂😁

[ivory zinc]

Yes

I got one of them

But the second dont want me

[grim carbon]

can someone help me identify something for me please?

[hybrid nymph]

You can save scum the recipes. Just scan the drive and save the game once the drive finishes. Then look in the MAM and reroll the stats, then if you don't like it, you can exit out of the game and come back in

[grim carbon]

can someone take a look at the picture at the bottom of the fuel-powered generator page that shows the large setup and tell me what those things are on the right side?

[hybrid nymph]

Link it 🔗

[ivory zinc]

I know i need pure aluminium ingot

[grim carbon]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Temporary_Fuel_Power.png

[ivory zinc]

Refineries?

[hybrid nymph]

You'll get it eventually

[ivory zinc]

Or do u mean blenders

@grim carbon

[grim carbon]

oh right

that's why i didn't recognise them, i haven't used them yet

i've got them ready to use

[hybrid nymph]

You unlock blenders in tier 7