satisfactory

[swift turret]

no gas mask

[ivory zinc]

Overall annoying asf

[swift turret]

no bombs

[ivory zinc]

Omg

[short fiber]

Okay hear me out #screenshots message

Have a train specifically for grabbing thing bunch of sulfur then dropping them off in a secondary location to be picked up by another

[violet pecan]

"Can you beat Satisfactory with ONLY things that are ABSOLUTELY Necessary?"

[ivory zinc]

Any% Speedruns

[verbal dagger]

"Can you beat satisfactory ONLY by doing things?"

[short fiber]

No t2 power poles

[violet pecan]

"Can you beat Satisfactory?"

[short fiber]

No

[ivory zinc]

No use for animal remains

[last mason]

how do i make a belt balancer that can handle 1700 items with using mk4 belts?

[ivory zinc]

Wdym

[violet pecan]

"Can you beat Satifactory without CONVEYORS?"
Most evil idea I could come up with

[last mason]

i have 5 inputs making 340/min and i need to split it so i have 1050 going one way and 650 going the other

[ivory zinc]

You can

[last mason]

holy shit that would be painfull

[ivory zinc]

Thats what over and underclocking is for

[violet pecan]

The horror of moving EVERYTHING manually

[ivory zinc]

2 outputs you can use for the 650 one and just underclock one of em to 310

And add that 50 less on a diff machine

[last mason]

ok

[verbal dagger]

can you hook up the smart splitter directly to the output of a container?

[ivory zinc]

You do it infront

[verbal dagger]

I'm trying to hook it up, and it's not snapping.

[ivory zinc]

You can then set one direction to 'overflow" letting it only split whenever the items are backed up to the splittrr

[last mason]

you should be able to scan for it

[ivory zinc]

Onto a belt

[swift turret]

someone already beat it by hand crafting

[violet pecan]

Beat the game solely about automation without automation

Only exception is Elevator parts

[last mason]

#screenshots message

[short fiber]

Does anyone else dislike the burn rates of fuel power? Like it messes up alot of the math

[ivory zinc]

Only w rocketfuel

Anything else is fine

[placid sigil]

should i work on oil power or do i should i focus on making plastic and other important components

[ivory zinc]

Make fuel power

[placid sigil]

kk

[short fiber]

Imma do 2800 turbo fuel per minute

[ivory zinc]

Why

[short fiber]

Bc I decided to do smth dumb before finishing phase 3

[ivory zinc]

Which is?

[verbal dagger]

I use the 'overflow' option right?

[ivory zinc]

Oh turbofuel

[short fiber]

Make 2800 turbo fuel

[ivory zinc]

Overflow towards the sink and "any" towards the box

[short fiber]

Or should I wait and use blenders

[verbal dagger]

I don't know what that means.

[ivory zinc]

For turbofuel u dnt need em @short fiber

[ivory zinc]

Use overflow in the splitter on the side thats is going to the awesome sink

[verbal dagger]

So I should put it before the container? Right now I have it after the container.

[ivory zinc]

As i said. Before the container

[short fiber]

I will have to up my power production above 10k for a it to get this started

Prob gonna make it around 15

[ivory zinc]

No u dont

[short fiber]

10k yes bc the refineries are hungry

[ivory zinc]

Just spam batteries before and when it starts up it will slowly take over anyway

[short fiber]

Oh....I forgot about those

You're smart

[ivory zinc]

I would make a bp and make sure you have enough of em

They just need to last until the first generators start

[short fiber]

You're right. Anyway enough math, gotta sleep

[feral jay]

Alright, time to turn on an 1800/min rubber plant and see where I fucked up

It's the kind of setup that you can't even start to run until it's completely finished https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=nLrjBXTFMteXFalilMPj

[ivory zinc]

For what do u need this much rubber @feral jay

[feral jay]

Becasue I want all the rubber

For the challenge of building it

Abd if I engineered it right, I can do the same for plastic and might never need plastic or rubber again

[hybrid nymph]

Sorry for the late reply, was doing homework. Doesn't look like you connected right

[west jackal]

trians to transport the crude? how well do fluid trains work...?

[west jackal]

only 600 crude 😛 rookie numbers

[short fiber]

Of they don't work well enough in math then I'll package them and send them which gives more per cart

[fickle locust]

Fluid trains aren't amazing but they also work just fine

[west jackal]

can fluid trains support 600/min?

[fickle locust]

Yeah, you can put two pipes on them

[west jackal]

so... can they support 1200/min?

or better to have fluid car per each 600/min node

[fickle locust]

No because load and unload cuts into it

Solid freight is limited to ~95% of 2x your best belt speed (so you can't manage 2,400/min, but you can get 2,300-2,350)

[feral jay]

Well it does look like it's working perfectly from the moment I turned it on, that's sayin' something

[fickle locust]

Fluid trains have an even bigger margin because they have the same issue with load and unload, but also pipes can move a maximum of 600/min but won't actually achieve that flow rate 100% of the time

I've not tried this, I'd expect you could have perfect functioning if you anticipated 580*2-5% for the load-unload. ~1,100

[west jackal]

tbh, im very glad because i always have issues with fluid factories at the start

[west jackal]

okay that is good to know

[feral jay]

Straight pipes are fine at 600/min, they get progressively more error prone as you add more consumers and junctions

Just a buffer to a station will do 600/min quite well

[fickle locust]

You can build this where everything feeds backwards first and only sends the overflow out which lets you build in chunks

[feral jay]

I mean, you still need to be able to actually fill that buffer at 600/min for that to matter though

[willow pond]

dumb question time: is there a way to stop the graphics from doing that weird thing where it shows stuff like drop pods in the distance that don't actually exist anymore?

[feral jay]

Nope, it's a long standing bug

What you see in the distance is the default state of the map, actual detail doesn't get rendered until you're closer

[willow pond]

i assume it's one of those "UE5 being weird" things

[feral jay]

There may be an LOD tunable with the console somehow

It's more a matter of the game not loading the entire map at once for performance reasons afaik

[willow pond]

let me load it all 🤣

give me a reason to do that bootleg 48gb 4090

[feral jay]

There's some secret sauce in how the game abstracts things when you're a far enough distance away, this LOD issue is an artefact of that

I agree it's really annoying though

And it's why I just cheat and use SCIM to hunt hard drives lol

[willow pond]

it's less annoying that it's just an old thing that nobody can really do anything about, but yea

[feral jay]

A lot of folks place a lone power pole on raided crash sites

[willow pond]

i have a game from like 2010 that can use more vram than this game 🤣

being able to decon pods was a great addition

[feral jay]

Yes, but rather pointless until this gets resolved

Well except that the space they occupied is usable again

[willow pond]

i kinda wish we could grab the ships and put them in a garage as a way to fly around the map

[weak bloom]

wow the silica ratio is kinda awful lol, 3 machines at 96% produces 108 silica but requires 64.8 quartz.......

ok if you clock it to 88.8888 then you get 60 -> 100 out of 3 machines lol

[twin parcel]

which circuit board alt recipe is better?

and what combination of alt recipe they go along with?

[willow pond]

from what i've heard, whatever it takes to get screws out of the chain of manufacturing

[cold berry]

Screws suck. They take so much space to make an adequate amount Jesus

But I don't think circuit boards take those anyway

The unlocking alternate recipes thing should be in more automation games. I haven't played Factorio because the colors bum me out so badly, but, I'd imagine it may be there too? But more games need it. It's such an addictive part of the gameplay loop to find a better one

[twin parcel]

there is no screw in the recipe mate , its either plastic + copper sheet , copper sheet + silica, or plastic + quickwire , or rubber + petroleum coke .

[willow pond]

oh brain fart, misread it as computer

[cold berry]

Copper nodes seem more rare than other nodes, so, quick wire may alleviate your copper grind

[ivory zinc]

Space? #steelscrews

[cold berry]

But I'm newish so IDK

[cold berry]

I want the steel screws so badly but I haven't found it yet aaaaah

[twin parcel]

caterium is more rare than copper , excessive use of caterium can fk me up .

[cold berry]

I just know my caterium node makes so much quickwire.

And I can't seem to use it fast enough in my boards

[ivory zinc]

Make high speed connectors. Then it wont anymore

[cold berry]

I-I was just about to start those

D-don't say that

I'll cry 🙁

[ivory zinc]

And ai limiters

[cold berry]

I have those

Up at a good clip

[ivory zinc]

Im mentally preparing to rebuild everything

I have 18k power which im using 9k of atm. Meaning the only reasonable thing is to make 112k power

[cold berry]

I'm on that stage RN. My steel line seems efficient enough, but, my copper and iron sucked, and my limestone quartz and caterium are just pumping into the factory when I want them processing in the factory.

I'm gutting everything and doing some decorating while I do it

[ivory zinc]

Pure recipes

[cold berry]

I don't have many yet. That's the water+foundry one right?

Yeah, I don't have that yet

I need to get after the hard drives. I'm about to be able to scan them soon though so

[ivory zinc]

Ye

[willow pond]

i'm trying to find a way to grid & pretty up my power lines, plus color coding them as to which subgrid they're on

[ivory zinc]

I have not gridded any of my power yet

[willow pond]

i did see someone set up a fancy looking foundation plus power storage platforms and then just plant a big power tower on top of it, might do that

[ivory zinc]

Aluminiumumumu

[hot hare]

Hello people

[ivory zinc]

Is overrated

[willow pond]

ok dumb question, is aluminum listed as aluminium for all the non-US versions of the game?

[hollow hemlock]

bam, first harddrive gives cast screws, this is going to be a good run

[willow pond]

that's great news. now that bad news is that most of the other options are gonna feel like crap when you start picking them up

[weak bloom]

Oh my god I have just discovered the packaged water, packaged diluted fuel, unpackaged fuel loop and you just need to prime it with canisters and it Just Works, that feels so dumb but I love it lol

[willow pond]

now sloop it all 😛

[weak bloom]

You only need
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FIFTY ONE REFINERIES to use up one full oil node, jesus

[rigid glen]

what recipe would that be

[weak bloom]

Rubber to recycled plastic using diluted packages fuel for processing the heavy oil residue. Makes 800 plastic from 600 crude + 200 water

Lots of machines though

[rigid glen]

sounds like it, good luck 🙂

[weak bloom]

Can do the same in reverse for rubber too, so what I'm hearing is that I need to find a way to organize ONE HUNDRED REFINERIES somewhere near 2 pure oil nodes

[feral jay]

I just built a rubber plant that needed over 80 refineries to fully utilize one pure oil node

But I'm getting 1800 rubber/min out of it

[placid sigil]

five hundred cigerretes

[rigid glen]

WEest Coast

[weak bloom]

I think I'll actually hold off on the insane rubber+plastic production until stage 4 and do that on the west coast yeah

[rigid glen]

lots of room for those refineries

[weak bloom]

So I can get blenders. I don't need that much production for anything to finish stage 3

[gloomy tusk]

STREIK

guess what

[feral jay]

6 is afraid of 7 because 789?

Or should I keep guessing

[gloomy tusk]

for i second i thought you were going to make a joke about 6 and 7. Im glad you didnt

[gloomy tusk]

i just saved 200 dollars on ram so now i can get a rtx 5060 ti

16gb vram edition

[feral jay]

Nice, I'm just chillin' with my 2070 until prices are sane again

[gloomy tusk]

im buying now because im cooked either way 😭

australian prices are already above us and canada prices so its just one hell of a lot worse

[sour cargo]

is there i way to see all the alternate recipes i unloced in-game?

[west jackal]

im making 10 HSC/min i think and 10 computer/min (and 10 CB/min) i think im using 252 caterium

[west jackal]

if that helps

all standard recipes

[ivory zinc]

Im getting a 5080

[gloomy tusk]

Holy shit are you like a billionaire

[ivory zinc]

Why

1.4k

[gloomy tusk]

im joking

but it is super expensive

[cold berry]

4070TiSu is my card

It's pretty good. Good deal I got on it.

[west jackal]

ive got 4080 super, very nice, does everything i need at 4k ultra 🙂

if i need high frame rates i just dont play at native 4k

[normal vale]

I have one of those it works on satisfactory really really good

[gloomy tusk]

what res and what settings?

[normal vale]

1280x720 and ultra/cinematic everything

I also have my frames limited at 140 and I have never seen it drop below 120

[normal vale]

correction as I looked at a factory after I typed that, I have never seen it drop below 71

[west jackal]

do biofuel burners kick in before power storages?

[west jackal]

720p???!

just use upscalling, play at 1080 atleast? using like 50% native frames you should be fine at 1080p, because i have a 3050ti laptop chip and i can run at around 90 fps with around 50% native

[normal vale]

wait I just fixed it I had my thing on the min

[next ivy]

arent they working constantly

[west jackal]

no?

biofuel generators only turn on when the grid need them

[normal vale]

I just changed it I had it on the min I can run 1920x1080 with 0 issue

[west jackal]

i thought so lol

[normal vale]

mb lmao

[west jackal]

both my weaker computers could do 1080 with no problems, so i was kinda surprised!

im running my 4080s at 4k ultra and get around 100-120 fps with no upscaling, but i think ill need to enable upscaling when my factories grow 🙂

[ivory zinc]

60 frames r enough for satis

Imo

[normal vale]

I love the scenery at max graphics but the second I look at one of my more complex factories it drops to around 71

[west jackal]

well yeah, but 4k ultra when i get to megafactories i may drop under 60

im more concerned about ram than anything, i only have 32gigs

which is double what i need for any other game, but not sat

[normal vale]

"only 32 gigs"

I am running 16 gb of ddr4 😢

[nocturne sentinel]

me too boddy

but its better than nothing

[west jackal]

ive got a nice 32gig kit, but this game is RAM hungry lol

my laptop also has 32gig ddr5, but laptop ram is poopy

not to mention its stupid and only actually lets me use like 28 gigs? some weird stuff happens with the allocation, i think its a lenovo thing

[normal vale]

honestly better than my last computer 0 complaints cause I used to run satisfactory on a MSI 15.6" laptop so its definitely an upgrade

[west jackal]

hey man my laptop is 15.6 lenovo ideapad gaming 3 🙁

[normal vale]

I only had to replace it cause it fried the motherboard

[west jackal]

i got it like 4 years ago on a big sale, i only really play satisfactory on it when im at my gfs house

i dont think ill ever get another "gaming" or even non gaming tbh, laptop

[normal vale]

the problem with laptops is the absolutely miserable ventilation

[west jackal]

yup, that, and they are slower for same price, and screen is WAY worse, its an lcd vs my oled at home

[normal vale]

yeah I built my PC for about $120 CAD cheaper than my laptop

[humble osprey]

man i wish i could make a T junction using conveyer belts

its very akward havng gaps where i put a t junction in my personal transport lines

[west jackal]

? splitter?

[humble osprey]

how am i gonna fit inside a splitter

even if i could, that would probably kill my momemntum

[normal vale]

I dont think you are supposed to shove yourself into T-Joints on coveyor belts...

have you tried hypertubes?

[feral snow]

conveyer belts are primarily for bunnyhopping

transporting materials is secondary

[reef basin]

put hypertube junction above the belt just before the splitter

[humble osprey]

exactly!

the most exciting part about unlocking a new teir of belt is the speeeeed

[feral snow]

"yay, i can go from the iron area to the coal area faster"

[west jackal]

are blue spitters the alphas? or the green ones

[feral snow]

spitters are usually green

[west jackal]

?

they arent usually the dark green...?

[fiery pewter]

The big spitters are the alpha's, and you have 3 different variants:
The orange-brown ones mainly in desert areas, the green-gray ones in forest areas, and the blue ones mostly in the tropical biomes or beaches

[west jackal]

oh okay

[fiery pewter]

Each of the variants also has a unique attack

[vale perch]

you'll become 3 smaller people

[normal vale]

make like a banana and split

[humble osprey]

trice the efficency!

[fervent mantle]

hi. just rejoined the server. is it okay to ask minor questiosn here or does one have to use questions and help for everything?

[west jackal]

why cant i get packaged diluted fuel alt

i just got option for inventory upgrade

[reef basin]

do you have the required milestones for it?

[reef basin]

very minor questions are fine, but #1038092680493801533 allow you to post pictures and scopes it nicely so that there's not multiple conversations going at the same time, and also helps other people which may then search it, so it has a lot of advantages

[normal orbit]

you need to have both oil processing and fluid packaging unlocked

[west jackal]

i have all t5 and t6 milestones, i guess im just getting unlucky

ive gone through like 30 HD + rescans to try and get it, expected to get it by now

[normal orbit]

its rng, you can opt to not pick any recipes and they get removed fromt he rng pool

which makes it easier to get what you're hunting for

[west jackal]

thats what ive been doing

i saw someone say it so i tried it, that is "new" lol

i feel like im playing wrong bc im building all these cool factories, but i have automated any space elev parts, just gonna handcraft to complete p3, def gonna automate the p4 parts though

[south cliff]

I usually handfeed P1-3 too

[west jackal]

i do it like this every playthrough and i wanted to automate it this time, but i just cant be bothered when im going to want to tear down everything

[south cliff]

and P4 parts is when I start to seriously create independent factories

[hybrid nymph]

Caterium circuit board

[obtuse sable]

Starting up a new save, what's a good spot in the Dune Desert to get things going?

[hybrid nymph]

Go near the beach with the oil. There is a coal vein near the desert, well 2 of them actually, a pure and impure nodes. There's also a pure caterium ore vein near there too

that's my suggestion

[obtuse sable]

Spire Coast?

[normal orbit]

theres 2 impure coal nodes in the canyon to the spire coast

just plop down factories where ever in dune desert

theres a lot of nodes

[obtuse sable]

I know there's a lot of nodes, just wondering if there are spots like the 2 main starting areas in Northern Forest

[normal orbit]

with a lot of pure nodes?

the middle bit of dune desert have an oodle of pure nodes

coal at the coast for power, quartz up north

[tranquil latch]

My blueprints only show a white arrow even when im using one that i saved, can anyone help?

[normal orbit]

i saw someone say it could be caused by having forbidden characters in your session name

like spaces, asterisks, etc

basically anything not a letter or number

cuz blueprint folder gets same name, and then its not a valid folder

[tranquil latch]

so do i just like change the save name?

cus when i click it, it takes up my materials but nothing happens

😭😭

[normal orbit]

no the session name

you create a session, then your saves are in that session

[tranquil latch]

ohhh

my session name had a space

oh yeah it works now

thanks alot

[gloomy tusk]

yo guys

should i trust steam cloud when switching gaming devices?

[normal orbit]

no, it doesnt copy blueprints

[fallen orbit]

Is there any info on what is coming in 1.2?

[normal orbit]

some, but wait until 17th for a more comprehensive list

#satisfactory-experimental message theres a decent list of what we know so far

[harsh moat]

it seems to me like the music isn't playing as often as it did before 1.1 or maybe i'm hallucinating

[gloomy tusk]

i already know that i have a 2tb external ssd with all of those

[harsh moat]

but i find myself listening just to factory noise while no music plays

[gloomy tusk]

wait is rain not a thing?

I swear it is

[normal orbit]

hasnt been since update 8 came

[gloomy tusk]

maybe its just my laptop crying from trying to run the game

[last bluff]

You don't game on an enterprise server?

[gloomy tusk]

i game with the cheap NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell Workstation Edition, 96GB just trust i cant send a photo cause its too big to fit

[last bluff]

That build can probably run Minecraft at Fabulous

[gloomy tusk]

probably not thats a bit much

i gotta go bye

[glass root]

Heavy Encased Frame or Heavy Flexible Frame?

[sterile blade]

Flexible

[nocturne sentinel]

how many times have you left satisfactory running and went to sleep

[low ingot]

ummm... i just woke up to full storage containers if that tells you anything 🙂

[nocturne sentinel]

hear me out just make bunch of storage so you never can run out

[low ingot]

i thought i did

[sour cargo]

just put a smart splitter and a sink ... easy tickets

[tall lantern]

treating the game like an idle game usually means you haven't built enough factory

[fiery pewter]

I will never run out of plutonium waste storage

[crystal lichen]

How it feels envisioning plans for factories I know i will never construct 🥹 ✌️

[sour cargo]

steeled frames or steel rods?

[fiery pewter]

Steel frames pretty dope ngl

Never fiddled witb steel rods

[crystal lichen]

Steel rods is really good

Using it with solid steel ingots or coke steel makes it have a way better resource ratio then the normal recipe

I forgot how much better

[sour cargo]

steeled frames make it go from 2/min to 3/min
but steel rods make it go from 15/min to 48/min

[zenith pecan]

Solid steel is +50% more ingots for the step of smelting the iron into ingots before the foundry.

[fiery pewter]

Yeah but alts aren't only about how many you get, but also how many you use

[crystal lichen]

It’s like 3.6x better using solid steel ingots and iron alloy Ingots

[sour cargo]

and frames have another "better" alternate with bolted frames, and screws aren't really a problem if using steel screws

[fiery pewter]

The leached recipes for iron ingots and caterium ingots are better than the pure recipes

[crystal lichen]

leached recipes are never ever worth it

[zenith pecan]

My primary foundry uses compacted steel due to the byproducts from nitro rocket, that nets me 4800 ingots.

[crystal lichen]

unless you for whatever reason have spare sulfuric acid

[fiery pewter]

You always have spare sulfuric Acid if you make enough

[crystal lichen]

smart

[crystal lichen]

an iq too high?

[fiery pewter]

I once desigined a nuclear power plant that made extra acid's separate from the production line to deal with the water byproduct

[crystal lichen]

i love designing and making store blueprints 🥹

[fiery pewter]

Store?

"Hold up honey, I gotta get some nuclear pasta from the store, brb"

[crystal lichen]

like

blueprints that turn raw resources into a set item

like you place it down, feed it resources, and you get the final item you desire

[sour cargo]

this references this : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fjgaGN8m5rw

[normal orbit]

It depends a bit, cause you can find alt recipes to not really need rods at all

[crystal lichen]

i completly misunderstood the concept of stores at first and it led to me wasting like 10-15 hours trying to to impossible balancing before i realised i was stupid 😭

[crystal lichen]

i mean just for manufacturing rods

if you need to make rods then steel rods has the best resource efficiency

[sour cargo]

a lot of the buildings will need rods tho, at the very least.
tho i'm guessing you can just have a impure node make that and store in a dim depot huh

[twin parcel]

How much power compacted coal provides ? Is it worth it to build a coal generator for it or turn them into steel ingots ?

[normal orbit]

compacted coal makes same power inside of a coal gen. but it burns slower, like 7.something/min so you can build more coal gens

[reef basin]

that's a weird question tbh

that's like asking "apple or sandwich"

[sour cargo]

that was the choice i had from the hard drive ...

[reef basin]

fair, but then the question isn't A or B, but which one you like more and which one will be more useful to you, which only you can answer

there's no good or bad recipes, there's just recipes that are useful for your personal preferences and limitations

[latent gate]

Choose neither, let it sit in the hard drive index so you can stare longingly at both

[dense violet]

it basically just converts sulfur to more coal.
just go find more coal next to water

[sour cargo]

eh ... i'd argue there are some bad alternates ...

[hybrid nymph]

I'm hopping on the game for about an hour then going to bed

[cunning glade]

See u say just an hour

For me it never truly ends up being only an hour

Also I can only use 9780 bauxite on the map till I get 1200 belts

I don't get why no bauxite in the dessert tho

[normal orbit]

i kinda like its all in a thin stripe in the middle

makes gathering up so much easier

[reef basin]

there are none

[normal orbit]

biocoal and charcoal are kinda bad :p

[ornate saffron]

they are not bad, certainly not useful to all.

[normal orbit]

recipes which can't be automated in a game about automation is kinda definition of bad.

[ornate saffron]

I dont use enough ammo to automate it fully.

[hybrid nymph]

I love turbo ammo, super good for killing cliff hogs

[ornate saffron]

many of peoples favorite

[cunning glade]

Except for u can't even do this till u get 1200 belts😞

[next ivy]

sooo, miners are just not automatable huh

in a game about automation

[ivory zinc]

Wdym

[next ivy]

portable miners cant be automatically made

[ivory zinc]

They are, with alternate recipes

[next ivy]

didnt find it yet then

[normal orbit]

they absolutely can be automated

[next ivy]

so hard drives ?

[ivory zinc]

Yes #screenshots

[normal orbit]

pipes and iron plates iirc

[next ivy]

bs lol

[sour cargo]

you can have a dim depot full of portable miners lmfao

[ornate saffron]

just hand craft a sstack while you poop and youll be set for a long while

[next ivy]

which is exactly why its bs

[normal orbit]

i just use some random impure iron node to make iron pipes and plates and automate some miners into a dimensional depot :p

[sour cargo]

why did the +6 inventory upgrade from hard drive only give me +3 slots?

[normal orbit]

believe game gives you some extra slots when you start nowadays, so the first upgrade doesnt do anything.

[low ingot]

there probably is a cap on inventory space?

[normal orbit]

theres a cap too, yea, 100-ish slots

[zenith pecan]

Don't burn compact coal, it't too valuable, use it to make turbofuel/non blender rocket, or in my case the compact coal is a byproduct, that I used for steel.

[sour cargo]

i'm nowhere near 100 slots so that's irrelevant

and it's supposed to be +6 slots. it gave me +3

[ornate saffron]

this is why i think nitro rocket fuel is too good lol/

i love it dont get me wrong

[normal orbit]

can report inventory issue on qa site

can also go into scim and add more slots :p

[reef basin]

nothing forces you to automate fully 🤷
but partial automation is better than no automation

[hybrid nymph]

Hmm aluminum is having a n issue

[ornate saffron]

they exist and no one is forced to use them. But they are nice for those of use that do us them

[ornate saffron]

water?

[vague apex]

hey is someone able to help me understand manifolds and production planning tools

[sour cargo]

huh, after checking the wiki and checking what i have unlocked, turn out i have the correct amount.
it's weird since i saw it add 3 instead of the stated 6 ....

[sour cargo]

what do you not understand about manifolds?

[vague apex]

well im on a planning website and goes from miner to smelter but it goes to 11 smelters so does that mean making a line of splitters going into the smelters and then mergers on the outputs

[sour cargo]

yes

[ornate saffron]

Maniofolds are pretty simple. Make sure your belt has the throughput needed for the line or Manifold of machines. Each splitter will split the belt throughput in half (or belt speed) sending parts into the first machine and then remaining amount down the line to the next machine and then repeats. when the first machine is full the parts don't split instead moving to the next machine in the manifold

[ornate saffron]

its just giving you raw numbers. You'll have to split things up for your specific situation. hard to feed 11 machines with mk1 belts for example

[vague apex]

and it wants me to go from smelter to 3 different types of constructors and some foundries would i just split the smelters output into 4 then and then make 4 manifolds?

[vague apex]

ah ok too easy

[ornate saffron]

if you want. you can split it any way you like. I personally prefer segmenting it up into amounts i need. For example if 4 of the 11 machines are making rods ill make that its own section. But this is prefence.

[vague apex]

wdym like seperating the smelters at the start?

[ornate saffron]

ya, its easier for me to trace back issues if i separate machines into blocks. Block A feeds rods Block B feeds plates and so on. This way if i see a yellow light i can look and see okay this is Block A which is rods. allowuing me to ignore block B while trouble shooting

again this is preference.

[vague apex]

ah ok i see

thank you so much for the help

[ornate saffron]

np, I hope i expalained it well enough

[vague apex]

hopefully i can figure it all out lol

[ornate saffron]

on youtube

Gaming with doc
TotalXcplise
and
Spectrumdad all have some great tutorials.

Although i would suggest staying away from mega factory designs during your first run as they are logistics heavy. It is hard to do when you dont know what is coming

[vague apex]

ive seen gaming with doc he seems pretty good. i was wanting to make a mega factory but i guess it can wait till another run

[ornate saffron]

youtubers build mega factories because they are impressive. They are rarely efficient or easy to manage. they are also painful for your hardware.

I often suggest reading this. even if you dont follow it, it gives you much good information

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[vague apex]

ill definetly do something like that i reckon

[reef basin]

I'd recommend:

• not following tutorial videos
• not building megafactory

[vague apex]

instead just making a bunch of smaller ones?

[zenith pecan]

I prefer individual buildings personally, even if they themselves are large scale.

[ornate saffron]

Personally i finished the game before watching any tutorials but the content is out there if you are in need

[vague apex]

i havent used any tutorials ive only used like rough concepts and ideas

[zenith pecan]

I can't show examples atm due to being at work.

[ornate saffron]

the concept of Mega factory is often looked at all in one place.

[vague apex]

yeh thats what i was gonna do but they said dont do a mega factory so was asking should i do that isntead

[ornate saffron]

I prefer building for need.

I need 50 smart plates so i build a facility for that specifically

i dont build parts without a reason

[vague apex]

yeh thats what im doing for now

[ornate saffron]

although you will need a little of almost everything in phase 1 and 2 for personal use ( other then phase parts)

so you may want some production lines for pioneers use.

in the end take your time and have fun

[vague apex]

yeh ive been taking my time

im up to phase 3 rn

[ornate saffron]

(ive cleared many times )

Im also on phase 3 currently

[vague apex]

ive loved it so far but have probably done so much unnecessary stuff cause i was bored lol

[ornate saffron]

lol boredom breeds creativety

[vague apex]

lol fr

[hybrid nymph]

okay fixed aluminum, the issue was that the refineries were filling up with water and geting clogged, so i had to setup 3 coal generators to use the excess water

now I get to fix oil

[bold heron]

is my math right ?
72 fule gen should produce around 18.000MW power and consume 1440 fule right ?

[reef basin]

you can also loop it back

[reef basin]

(it's "G", not "k")

[normal orbit]

yea

[bold heron]

great

[woven vector]

Can someone help me?

I have found 4 coal mines. So 4 MK.1 miners.

How many water extractors do i need? And how many coal power generators?

[real cobalt]

well its 120 per 8 and 4

[tall lantern]

one coal gen uses 15 coal and 45 water per minute

so, ez math

[real cobalt]

or that

[woven vector]

120 per 8 and 4 what, subject?

[real cobalt]

120 coal per min is 8 coal plants

and 4 water extractors

[tall lantern]

3 extractors*

[south sinew]

3 extractors yes

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[tall lantern]

(or 4 at 75%, which is my preference)

[normal orbit]

if its the spot i think it is, its 4 normal nodes. so a mk1 miner would output 60 without overclocks

[real cobalt]

eh 4 is better

[south sinew]

no it isn't

you're just wasting space because you're unable to route your pipes properly

[real cobalt]

but you got oceans my child

[tall lantern]

4 downclocked tiles nicely and doesn't trip up newbies with throughput limits since each extractor directly powers 2 gens

[normal orbit]

makes literally no diffrence if you do 4 at 75% 3 at 100% or 2 at 150% aside a few mw of power

[south sinew]

but those coal nodes are not next to an ocean

[tall lantern]

move the coal

[real cobalt]

so?

[south sinew]

you could do but what's the point

[ornate saffron]

Or spending more in upfront costs to save on power. As space is the resource we have the most of

[woven vector]

ok so 4 extractors, 8 coal generators, 4 mk.1 miners. And then i just create a massive single electrin line going to my base

[south sinew]

the game contains many more complex piping challenges than this so it's not really worth skipping

[real cobalt]

yes

but there right 3 is best but when i use 3 i sometimes have drops in power with 4 ive been able to have constant 600w

[tall lantern]

that's usually a piping issue

[real cobalt]

and im to dumb so extra water extractor

[tall lantern]

3 at 120 or 4 at 90, either way you're getting 360/min total, just have to make sure it can get where it needs to go

[woven vector]

how do you move the big ass tall alien girafee

[real cobalt]

hit it

and it shpuld rum

run*

[ornate saffron]

[real cobalt]

and thats the bean

[ornate saffron]

Aka steve

[hybrid nymph]

naa too inconsistant, there isn't a way to trash fluids directly, wish there was

[ornate saffron]

That's the challenge

[reef basin]

it's very much consitent if done right

(meaning "don't mix fresh and byproduct water")

[hybrid nymph]

I just need a way to burn water consistantly as soon as it's produced

I need to burn 300^3m of water, so I setup 3 coal gens

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1460381544173801616/image.png?ex=69a6a68c&is=69a5550c&hm=a43060ee17997be2be68e6c529d65b9b0e341da6b3af554699e03e2105e848e7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=911&height=1288

[hybrid nymph]

hmm -Minecraft Villager

[elfin smelt]

I did this setups on my first aluminum line and they work great

[woven vector]

do i really need the steel pipe for the water/coal energy thing or no?

or the copper are fine

[elfin smelt]

I just had to make that upside U trick to prevent a bit of the sloshing in the byprod water

[woven vector]

you

[real cobalt]

lol ol

lol ok*

[woven vector]

i mean this

[reef basin]

if it says it needs steel pipes, you need steel pipes

[woven vector]

not what i asked

[cunning glade]

question i have rocket fuel being made in blue crater should i move the fuel for drones too a more central location

[reef basin]

what did you ask about then?

[cunning glade]

cuz like time for drones too move and such idk if it would cause any issues

[woven vector]

read it 20 times maybe you'll be able to formulate an useful answer

[reef basin]

"do I need steel pipes"

[cunning glade]

also unsure of how i want too feed my drones fuel

[normal orbit]

pipes are build with copper sheets. you can't choose to build them with steel pipes

[woven vector]

ty

[cold berry]

I keep forgetting this game has like planes and drones and shit (currently tier 6)

I'm excited for it

[reef basin]

basically what I said but ok

[cunning glade]

drones peak for low throughput stuff

just gotta decicde how i fuel drones everywhere and i do think i wanna make a more central fuel storage spot

[cold berry]

||Satisfactory is now tied with "CaBiN: Create Above and Beyond in Newer (versions)" for favorite automation game for me. (It's just hard to beat a good Minecraft automation mod pack with Create and AE2, but, it's tied to me now). Great game.||

[cunning glade]

ig i just make a spot i can keep expanding and just put empty pads there and then have drone that just for fuel too and from

[normal orbit]

i usually make packaged fuel in a location and feed it into drone ports (like 6-12 or so depending how many i want) then just use em to ship the fuel out to other locations

[woven vector]

since i have 4 water extractors and 8 coal generators, do i split them specifically 1 per 2 coal gen, or i simply can make 1 pipe connected to all 4 and then connect then to the coal gen

[cold berry]

That's a pretty cool idea, I'll be taking that now

[cunning glade]

see im already making it in blue crater i wanna take that move it too a more central spot and then do something like this i think

[elfin smelt]

now that I think about it should probably used drones to deliver nitrogen for my small (1.5 p min) HFF factory

but i was to absorved in trains and ended using them even though it needs like only 25m³/min iirc

[cunning glade]

ah fused frames will be soon

i need 30 a min i believe

[elfin smelt]

I legit forgot that drones existed

[cunning glade]

prolly just make it all in one with pressure cubes ig

[normal orbit]

drones got a nice boost in 1.0

[woven vector]

@real cobalt if you can help

[cunning glade]

then drone thoose too pasta factory idk yet

part of me wants everything being made for 30 pasta in one spot

okay no nvm ill get 30 min stutters

6000 rubber in one spot is already bad enough

[elfin smelt]

Im yet to make a super computer factory to continue unlocking tier 8

[cunning glade]

thats what i was working on 100 comps a min 20 super a min

but i need drones for my hmf for the acu

so i can automate first part

but i plan too do like 16k and i need like 1200 belts for that which kinda sucks

could prolly go do the math and figure out how much i actually need

[woven vector]

can someone tell me if you know (coal+water energy farm)

[cunning glade]

uhhh iirc feed it from each end with one water extractor u might need one in the middle too

[ivory zinc]

Why so much

[cunning glade]

i havent done coal in a min so i could be wrong

[cunning glade]

making 30 pasta a min

[reef basin]

you can do it with 3 to 8

but either way, it's generally recommended to keep fluids as simple as possible, which includes not merging separate systems together (in your case, keeping it separate would be the way to go). Coal gens generally are hard to break, but in the future you'll have setups that need much more care, and it's good to learn good piping before reaching that

[woven vector]

so 1 pipe per 2 each coal gens separated from other pipes right?

[reef basin]

if doing 4 to 8 instead of 3 to 8, yeah

[normal orbit]

should make a few more fused frames than what you need for the pasta. need some for the thermal propulsion rockets and to build mk3 miners, converters and particle accelerators.

[reef basin]

no reason to connect them anyway

[cunning glade]

i just know i need atleast 30

havent gotten too them yet and done the math for the exact amount tho i have 50 hmf a min too work with

could sloop too 100

[hybrid nymph]

okay I'm finishing coal tomorrow

goodnight

[weak bloom]

I'm looking at all the possible petroleum products - is the only use for fuel beyond powering drones/generators the alt fused modular frame recipe and turbo diamonds?
And is that fused frame alt worth using or can I put most of my oil towards rubber and plastic once I have enough fuel for power generation + drones?

[normal orbit]

you can use fuel to increase production of plastic and rubber dramatically

[weak bloom]

Yeah but that's all self contained right

Like it's from the heavy oil residue so I won't be using extra crude oil inputs to make more plastic and rubber than the original input

[ornate saffron]

Oil products can be used to make coke as well if you need coal and you are near none.

Lots of oil on the map. I wouldnt worry about running out for the average player

[normal orbit]

well no, fuel can't, heavy oil residue can

[ornate saffron]

Correct. I mis spoke

Fixed

[rancid turret]

i use heat fused frame, it uses much less aluminium, overall a little less resources and fewer buildings

it doesn't really use that much more oil

fuel is cheap

though i also use all the oil derivatives (coke steel, coated iron plate, rubber concrete)

[normal orbit]

if memory serves, i think its 150 ingots for heat fused and 225 for normal recipe

to make 3/min

[woven vector]

got a question now. I got the 8 generators (using 2 to run mines+water extractors)

Now, do i just bring the other 6 via 6 different "cables" to my spot?

[normal orbit]

can jsut connect all of them on the same power grid and drag it away

[spice patio]

There is no limit on how much power single cable can move.

[normal orbit]

no need/gain to keep two to jsut power miner and extractors

[woven vector]

how do i conect all of them to a single cable tho? max is 4

[normal orbit]

place a power pole after each generator, connect to that, then link the power poles

[woven vector]

ohhh

[normal orbit]

you have no limit on how many power poles you can put down

[harsh moat]

what would you consider being the best/most convenient fuel for drones available?\

currently using turbofuel but they go through it quickly

[normal orbit]

best is plutonium or ionized

fastest speed

[harsh moat]

plutonium rods i can sink anyways so that's good

[normal orbit]

then its uraniium fuel rods, then rocket and batteries, then turbo and lastly normal fuel

[harsh moat]

yes but i'm not only looking at speed but at convenience of making certain fuels

[real cobalt]

no you need copper sheets, reniforced plates rotors

[weak bloom]

Oh boy I just looked at the mats for mk3 miners.....I'm gonna be at mk2 for a while LOL

[normal orbit]

if you just want convience then fuel is the one. its a tradeoff, the more complex the fuel, the faster your drones will be and the better thruput they'll have

also the less fuel they use

like a packaged ionized will be 1/5th the use of one turbo fuel. and what, a plutonium fuel rod is equal to like 750 turbo fuel canisters

plus being 50% faster

[glacial drum]

Nearly able to get back to work on my 1 TW project full time.

Gonna have to opt for caterium wire for these mod frames, though.

I cleared a huge area not realizing there was.. no coal there yesterday.

[glacial drum]

Remember it’s possible to hand feed machines! You could build a few to make the materials to make a good 3-5 miners. That can speed up your process of even automating them.

I think I made a good 10 by hand before automating them.

Though, do remember, you can only use 60% of a pure node mk 3 miner without t6 belts

(60% of 1200)

[normal orbit]

mk5 belts are 780 not 720

(so its 65% by that logic)

[weak bloom]

yeah t5 belts are definitely more important I think

[glacial drum]

I stand corrected.

Belts are definitely the most important to get first yea

[weak bloom]

t5 belts will let me 250% mk2 miners at least

[stoic parrot]

hi

[snow apex]

Hi

[rancid turret]

once you automate steel, it'll be much cheaper to make MK3 than MK2

the odd numbered ones need more complex inputs but don't need as many of them, while even numbered ones are costly

you get way more steel beams than reinforced iron plates once you automate steel

[simple pebble]

Mk2s are uniquely annoying because you're still stuck with phase 1 tech, too

Encased beams at phase 2 aren't a bother at all compared to reinforced plates at phase 1

[weak bloom]

I think you're talking about belts....? I mean miners

encased beams have kinda been an issue for me a couple times but only when I'm like upgrading an entire belt highway at once

and yeah I basically skipped mk2 belts

[fluid sapphire]

you can already produce stuff at a pretty massive scale with mk2 miners and mk5 belts

[rancid turret]

oh lmao

yeah miners get costly

[woven vector]

man im so addicted to this

downloaded it just 2 days ago

20 hours of playtime

well 3 days ago

[reef basin]

Mk2s are only annoying if you don't automate enough 🙂

[south sinew]

I found them generally to be a bit overpriced for what they offer

mk3 belt is cheaper and a lot faster

[cunning glade]

Why is there so much limestone

[sleek delta]

when life gives you limestone

[fluid sapphire]

how else are you gonna make cloudy diamonds

[cunning glade]

Wait let me check my time crystal recipe

[real shale]

That's a good question

[cunning glade]

I only need 30k coal for that

[real shale]

only

[cunning glade]

Which is almost all of the coal

Meanwhile that's only half the fucking limestone

Like it just doesn't make sense why limit the other resources so much but limestone there's 13 trillion of it

[fluid sapphire]

wait until you find out how much iron there is

[cunning glade]

Yeah but iron isn't resource intensive

[fluid sapphire]

nothing is unless you make it so

[cunning glade]

Like u can so easily use all of the copper coal Sam sulfur

[real shale]

Wait until you find out how much water there is

[cunning glade]

Quartz

But yet limestone there's a million

[fluid sapphire]

well, yes

[cunning glade]

Just silly I don't understand it

[real shale]

There's a small 9007199254740991 m³/min of water

[autumn path]

I have 5(or 6) lines of 780 iron ingots. should i make 3 lines of plates and 4 lines of rods or 2 lines of plates 6 lines of rods with those 5, or go 6 lines of ore for 3 lines of plates 6 lines of rods

[cunning glade]

Also just bitching cuz I might run out of resources on the map

[weak bloom]

everyone says just stick to the odd numbered belts but honestly I've been using mk4 WAY more than mk3 because 200% of a pure node is 480 and it's opened up a ton of possibilities with that many resources
though part of that is probably that I've stayed on phase 3 longer than I should have and using mk5 would just have been better lol

[cunning glade]

But there's still gonna be limestone no matter what

[real shale]

Like why is there so little water on the map

I need it for all these refineries.....there's not enough of it...

[south sinew]

In those cases, I just run a mk4 belt a very short distance into a splitter, then two mk3 belts out of it

[cunning glade]

Wait I can make more diamond

[south sinew]

although obviously, if you are producing more than enough materials for a mk4 belt, you may not care that much about how much cheaper mk3 is

but mk5 belt is again very cheap and very good, so I generally just go for that

[fluid sapphire]

well, its practically unlimited, i chose iron because that actually has a reachable cap (maybe, for some people)

[cunning glade]

Wait maybe not

Cuz if I go up too 1800 time crystals a min that's 36k coal

[autumn path]

I just run the pure nodes mod, you can also run the mod that lets you build ore deposits

[cunning glade]

I needed the other 8k for nuclear I think

[real shale]

I'm actually curious how many points/min packaged water would give you if you were to use all the water on the map

[cunning glade]

I have mk5 miners

960 ore a min 2 outputs

Cuz like I don't wanna change the game too much

But I do want access too more resources if I need them

[autumn path]

yea its my third run, i had zero mods my first run

[cunning glade]

I still need too beat the game

[autumn path]

did 0.6 and 0.8, now a 1.1

[cunning glade]

I mean this is technically my second world that's I've actually stuck too

I played over 200 hours before 1.0 but I never went that far past steel as I wanted full game

[autumn path]

if i have 5 lines of iron should i go 3 for rods or 3 for plates? or should i go for 6 lines?

[cunning glade]

In theory there's prolly more than what's on the site

[real shale]

9007199254740991 seems like a very specific number

[cunning glade]

Iirc he said that's the limit of the number on the site so it doesn't go any higher and we don't actually know the true amount of water a min

Cuz of some integer or something fuck if I remember

Could prolly find it rq

[real shale]

Free ticket generator

Although I guess your limit would be canisters wouldn't it

[autumn path]

is there enough iron and plastic to package it?

[real shale]

I doubt

[autumn path]

yea you can put down a ton of them on the shores

[cunning glade]

I don't

With sloops and just how much plastic u can make and iron on the map

Especially with pure iron

[real shale]

I don't think it'd be nearly enough to package all the water on the map

[cunning glade]

Also can't u turn Sam into iron?

Someway I think u can copper iirc

Not that far so idk that well

[autumn path]

how many water extractors per pure iron node?

do i need more iron rods or iron plates generally in like phase 3/4 (not including alt recipes too much)

[real shale]

With pure iron you'd be taking water away, the question is if all the water was used, even though it'd be pretty minor lol

Iron alloy ingot though, is a good alternative

[south sinew]

you're not gonna run out of water before you run out of iron even with pure iron

[normal orbit]

would disagree, using a rare resource to make more of the second most common isnt a great tradeoff

[south sinew]

water should always be the first resource to be expended as it's by far the most common

[real shale]

I mean there's 9007199254740991 + some more of it on the map

I don't think you are going to be able to package all of it before running out of iron and plastic

[normal orbit]

theres a third of copper compared to iron, so using copper to make more iron is just odd

[real shale]

Assuming your computer doesn't burn first

[spice patio]

That value in SCIM is just largest value supported as integer in the language used.

[real shale]

Yeah that's why I said some more

Goodquestion already mentioned the integer limit

[spice patio]

Might be less, haven't been checked in any way or form.

No-one has tried to approximate how many water extractors you can fit onto the map.

[real shale]

I got years to spare /jk

Sadly I do not have the computational power

[unkempt blade]

ok but are we doing it with or without glitching them into the ground?

[normal orbit]

someone did cover the map in foundations, maybe someone else will try cover all water in extractors :p

[real shale]

My hero, turning the planet into a ecumenopolis as it was supposed to be

Sadly water extractors would probably be a bit more computationally heavy than foundations, especially if you are trying to package everything

Imagine having ALL those water extractors hooked up to the same power switch, it would literally be a lag switch at that point I'd imagine

[cunning glade]

Shhhh

I didn't think about that

[real shale]

Lmao

[cunning glade]

I mean low vs high settings for me is like a 250fps difference

Anyways my food is on the way

[last bluff]

legends say that, with millions of extractors, the water still sloshes at the third machine

[cunning glade]

I actually need too eat before playing this game or I don't eat

Game even reminds me and I'm like I should do that and then don't

[last bluff]

I once played for so long, the game told me the world had to restart

[zealous haven]

does manifolding work on 1:1?

[last bluff]

which is a 24h thing

[cunning glade]

I low-key wish I was big so I could just gym and have a lot of muscle

[last bluff]

you mean where the input can take the full output? it'd just be a buffer at that point

[cunning glade]

So much nicer than having too eat 4k cals a day too gain any meaningful weight

[last bluff]

or you give it 50% capacity

[cunning glade]

Am also confused wym

Manifolding basically always works

I'm gonna make a manifold bp that's what I need too do

[jagged nymph]

manifolding works if your belt can hold the amount youre producing, and youre producing >= the amount you need

[cunning glade]

Otherwise I'm gonna go crazy

I think I oc the silica

More so for performance sake

500 assemblers just making silica

[fluid sapphire]

alts are goat, centralizing iron precursors ahead of time is more trouble than its worth

[cunning glade]

Oh sorry 390.476

I rounded up way too much

[rigid lion]

Just hit phase 4

Oh boy

[normal orbit]

most fun phase imo :)

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[rigid lion]

Do you reckon multiple mini factories feeding into the space elevator is most efficient? Or a large scale project factory being fed resources and components at the space elevator? I’m starting to encounter throughput issues now that my rail network is half a map long

[fiery pewter]

Use more trains per line

Also, large scale factories, especially in phase 4, get clunky very fast

[rigid lion]

Roger that. I definitely need to double plastic prod ahahah

[normal orbit]

phase 4 was the birth of the stacks (40 machines in a blueprint) and i love how industrial it looks with lines of them :)

[rigid lion]

How do you mean? Like vertical stack machines?

[fiery pewter]

Probably yes

[rigid lion]

I was wondering about that the other night when I was screwing about. Will have to try it. I like compact stuff and I like blueprints ahaha

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message these :)

[woven vector]

about to unlock mk 3

[elfin idol]

question

with pipelines

the capacity is 150m3/min

[fiery pewter]

What

[next ivy]

thats a rate

[fiery pewter]

No

[next ivy]

not a capacity

[hollow lance]

Pipe rate depends upon the tier of the pipe.

[elfin idol]

yes ok but like thats what i mean

[fiery pewter]

Pipe mk1 is 300m³ per minute, pipe mk2 is 600m³/min

[fiery pewter]

So like half a mk1 pipe

Of what?

[next ivy]

half pipes are for skaters

[fiery pewter]

Lmao

[elfin idol]

my question is, if i have a connected system with 2 outputs each drawing 80m3/min, and 4 inputs producing 40m3/min, will it work?

in theory it should

[next ivy]

2 * 80 = 4 * 40

[fiery pewter]

If you connect it correctly, keep headlift in mind, yes

[elfin idol]

yes the input is over 150 total

but logically it should work

ok cool ill try it and see

[fiery pewter]

Don't forget vertical pipe junctions have priority connections

[next ivy]

where does 150 come from

[fiery pewter]

40×3+40×0.1

[hollow lance]

Check the wiki for the "plumbing manual" . Extremely well written and has diagrams and pictures. Several cool tricks there.

[normal orbit]

odds are that might be bug fixed in 1.2

[elfin idol]

linked in screenshots

[fiery pewter]

WHAT

Since when

[normal orbit]

they're using mods

[next ivy]

ah yellow posted wrong numbers

[fiery pewter]

Nonono

[next ivy]

yellow or pebble

[elfin idol]

?

[normal orbit]

pebble

[fiery pewter]

I speak the truth

[next ivy]

fucks sake pebble

[elfin idol]

tf i didnt post any wrong numbers

[normal orbit]

mk1 pipes are 300/min

[fiery pewter]

You using mods?

[elfin idol]

oh

[normal orbit]

yours being 150/min is not accurate cause you're using mods

[next ivy]

#screenshots message

[elfin idol]

might be mods then yeah

lol

[fiery pewter]

Minor heart attack

[hollow lance]

SF+ has mk1 pipes at 150, mk2 at 300, and tops out with mk3 at 450. No 600!

[elfin idol]

yeah itll be that

im on sf+

[fiery pewter]

The dreaded satisfactory plus

[elfin idol]

nah its hella fun im enjoying it

[fiery pewter]

"Do you want screws"

[next ivy]

in that case its unlikely to all fit through 1 connection right ?

[hollow lance]

SF+ has a discord....

[fiery pewter]

"Too bad you need screws to get screws"

[elfin idol]

im also playing with no manual crafting

[fiery pewter]

What hellscape did you put yourself in

[tall lantern]

sf+, they already said

[elfin idol]

hold on it gets better

[fiery pewter]

Wait how the hell did you advance through onboarding!

With no handcrafting

[elfin idol]

check

#screenshots

for mod list

[normal orbit]

should prob move your questions to the sf+ discord to avoid confusion

peopel will assume no mods here

[hollow lance]

He may have skipped onboarding and started at tier 1. Still nuts to do no handcrafting though.

Yeah, the SF+ discord is the proper place.

[elfin idol]

had to skip onboarding anyway because of the fact its bugged with random start location

[tall lantern]

yeah, or at least make it abundantly clear you're playing modded, since they just throw out the rules of the base game

[unkempt blade]

the one true way to play satis is vanilla, the way the wise and benevolent creators intended for us

[tall lantern]

and even so, 90% of the time the answer will be "use the modding/relevant mod discord"

[hollow lance]

Speaking of SF+ and fluids, I posted a gas overflow setup on the SF+ discord. Not going to discuss it here though...

[cunning glade]

If y'all are making a factory where u know u need higher belt speed. And are getting it soon how do y'all remember or mark the belts u need too upgrade

Ig maybe a stamp could work depending on how small I can make them

Cuz like it's gonna a hot fucking min before I get 1200 belts

[proven snow]

I just go back through later and upgrade stuff that looks like it needs it.

If I see a belt running to one smelter it probably doesn't need 720 parts per minute so I won't upgrade it. But belts that distribute to a lot of things I'll upgrade

[normal orbit]

build it so the only belt which needs to be updated is the one coming out of the miner

[cunning glade]

I mean fair

But also like 20k silica a min thru 780 belts

I'll prolly just place a sign and hopefully I remember

[cunning glade]

This is already the case as for quartz I have too tap basically every node but 2 since I'm limited too 780

[normal orbit]

its only 30 belts tho, i had 41 belts just for aluminium scrap

[cunning glade]

Oh how I wish time crystals could just be an end of t8 thing

[cunning glade]

Let's check how many I'll have

[cunning glade]

Wait how

[normal orbit]

#design-and-architecture message each belt has 600/min scrap

[cunning glade]

Ah okay that makes sense

Im gonna try and condense them down too 780

[normal orbit]

prob not a good idea. you might hit belt limit and some machines can't output it all

[cunning glade]

I think the most annoying one will be copper cuz it's what 36k ingots a min

[cunning glade]

Wym

Or I just plan for 1200 belts and cry about the inefficiency and yellow lights

[normal orbit]

cuz the machines makes a large number of items each time it process, and you have multiple outputting onto same belt to cap it. you probably will run into an issue they can't actualyl output fast enough and the internal storage builds up

[cunning glade]

Well yeah but u just make sure it only has 780 tho?

[normal orbit]

i used to have two blenders outputting 600/min onto a 1200 belt, and one machine would eventually fill up and stop

[cunning glade]

So basically the game isn't coded right and is lieing too us got it

[normal orbit]

cuz they make items in batches of 30, every 3 seconds

[cunning glade]

Well I'll prolly do 600 a min then

Which is like so lame

[cunning glade]

This is prolly why my first ever aluminum plant does this

It's making some 3600 a min

And the scrap ones back up

[normal orbit]

only way i got it to kinda make sense math wise, is having two blenders each makign 30 items every 3 seconds. is 20 items/s and the belt should also be 20/s, but there seems to be somewhat of a delay on merging, it will eventually build up in one machine

[cunning glade]

Yeah just the game logic being fucked

Oh well

[woven vector]

is there a point where you get a faster crafter? or no

constructor*

[placid sigil]

god i hope so

[cunning glade]

U can make them faster

[placid sigil]

but prob not

[cunning glade]

With slugs

[placid sigil]

i just overclock them personally

[normal orbit]

its not an issue in big manfolds where only like a few items are made in each cycle, like a smelter. there its like 1 item every 2 secons. and making a 1200/min out of that worked fine

so i dk

just something i observed, and now correct for

[cunning glade]

Just blenders being blenders ig

[normal orbit]

just in general try avoid belt limits, like my big stacks have a 1200 belt in, but 2 600 out

[cunning glade]

No yeah I noticed that too in a way cuz I should've had 10 belts of 780 for scrap but some would back up and shit

Wasn't sure why tho

[cunning glade]

I am a belt limit and pipe maxer

First thought I do is I divide whatever I need 30k coal for example by the fastest belt I have

And same for pipes

And then I figure out how many rows I need

[woven vector]

just a question whats a good use for the conveyor lift? Never had the chance to use it yet

[cunning glade]

Go up

Or down ig

[weak bloom]

maybe this is related to something I recently observed
so I have two turbofuel lines producing 300 turbofuel, that each take 240/m compacted coal. I have a set of assemblers producing exactly 240/m compacted coal. but sometimes I am seeing that conveyor stutter a little and not always be flowing
which I think shouldn't be the case since that whole line is 100% efficiency, right? the 300 turbofuel is going into 40 generators and I let it fill up by underclocking one of the gens and then set it back to 100%

[woven vector]

instead of using the rails?

the belt

[cunning glade]

I mean belts kinda go up

[normal orbit]

pipe maxing i've never had issues with

[woven vector]

yea thats what i mean

not sure when its useful the lift

oh maybe, double container?

[cunning glade]

It's almost always useful there's so much too do with it

[stark cypress]

what more can a man do in this game, I put 2 launch pads facing each other and I think my duty is done

[cunning glade]

Start building up more

[normal orbit]

when building vertically

[cunning glade]

So I'm guessing you've barely started

[normal orbit]

or manifolding multiple input machines

[stark cypress]

more launch pads? got it

[stark cypress]

yeah, my game time is 4h

[cunning glade]

How many coupons u making

[stark cypress]

coupons?

[cunning glade]

Looks like ur duty has just started pioneer

[stark cypress]

I think my launch pads are as good as they can be

[cunning glade]

Experiment with the awesome sink

It's pretty awesome hence the name

[stark cypress]

oh wait I got 5 coupons, one time there were these gifts around the map and Ithink I got the coupons from them

[cunning glade]

Anyways o7 chat I got food

[cunning glade]

Sounds about right the Christmas event

[normal orbit]

especially the totally normal ficsmas gift

[stark cypress]

I just built the MAM not long ago and I found out I can get rifles in this game, I think the animals gonna have a rought time

[cunning glade]

U can get || bombs ||

[normal orbit]

||nuclear bombs||

[cunning glade]

Was gonna say that too tbh was thinking about it

[stark cypress]

I think I got my atom-nobelisk or sum like that from the gifts aswell but idk how it works, it says something about exploding but idk

[weak bloom]

it's the only correct option for when you see a spider

[cunning glade]

U need a detonator

Or have a spitter shoot it well u throw it

[stark cypress]

are they hard to make

I want to blow up one of those big fat tall elephant human things

[cunning glade]

Space whale tick giraffe something like that

[stark cypress]

they run around my conveyor belts

[normal orbit]

they easy to make, just need some coal sulfur, steel pipes and an assembler :p

[cunning glade]

Did trains get better in 1.1?

[normal orbit]

arguably slight worse :o

[cunning glade]

How so?

[normal orbit]

while new track algoritm allowed for tigther turns, it made signaling intersections more annoying since what used to be invalid turns are now valid

[cunning glade]

I see

[normal orbit]

but thats just my opinion on it :p

[cunning glade]

Dosh is such a peak YouTuber I want him too play more satisfactory and I wanna see him play Dyson sphere

[cunning glade]

No good too know I was watching a diff vid on this game and he said trains were supposed too get better in 1.1

[sinful bobcat]

Trains are more user limited than game limited

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message that this is an allowed turn is the whole reason intersections suck to signal these days

[cunning glade]

I hope 1.2 brings preformace optimaztions and better like pop in for lights and etc

[normal orbit]

the ue5 update on exp right now does improve global illumination somewhat

[ornate saffron]

:/ forgot to Over cloack a coal miner lol

[unkempt blade]

I'm sorry you ruined your entire save 🙁

[ornate saffron]

it my fualt for using Impure

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented I believe in you to find more coal to use

[ornate saffron]

i need 450 so 3 combined impure nides are perfect

gotta sloop the nearby Impure limestone though

[cunning glade]

God just saw someone talking about 11k screws a min and I couldn't imagine that like why choose that pain

[ornate saffron]

Ill never watch this but it makes me giggle every week

#streams-and-videos message

[unkempt blade]

real pioneers of greatness embrace screws they don't hide from them

[cunning glade]

I mean I like them

But tools doesn't

And I do as tools tells

[zealous haven]

does manifolding work when the output is 1:1 with the input

[cunning glade]

Kills u

[zealous haven]

wdym

[cunning glade]

What do u mean unc

[unkempt blade]

the creator of tools doesn't appreciate the true majesty and splendor of cast screws so I'm not sure his work can really be trusted

[zealous haven]

if i used 120 ore, i want to output to 4 smelters, does manifolding work for load balancing or no

[cunning glade]

So far I think it can

[ornate saffron]

if its 1:1 you just direct feed #screenshots message

[next ivy]

a manifold is not a balancer

[zealous haven]

i’m trying to load balance 2 rows of 5 with a 300 output miner

[unkempt blade]

you just wait for the manifold to fill up and all the smelters will get enough ore if that's what you're asking

[cunning glade]

Don't try load balancing just manifold

Only load balance for trains imo

[next ivy]

for low throughput items

[cunning glade]

As long as the machines don't need more than what u can move on the belt u can manifold

[weak bloom]

might be a bit of a random question but are there ways to like, draw lines/groups in satisfactory modeler just to visually sort all the plans I have going on? lol

[next ivy]

it will take ages for machines to start up with low throughput items, but sure

[unkempt blade]

I'd just take a screenshot and do it in paint but I also don't believe in modeler

[cunning glade]

I also don't believe in modeler

I saw someone with 1.2k hours in that shit and I'm like wtf

[ornate saffron]

in that same picture all the founderies are fed by the same coal belt. the ratios for each foundery is diffrent but the entire line needs 450 coal. The belt supplies 450 so it will balance itself. Once the first Foundery is full the excess goes to the next and so on until every one i full except the last

[cunning glade]

Ig background well game is open

[weak bloom]

yeah I just have it open while game is open, not like I'm using it all the time

[cunning glade]

I just use tools my phone as a calculator and the interactive map

[unkempt blade]

You need to reject modeler and make yourself a beautiful mind wall. That lets you make all sorts of lines on it

[weak bloom]

I prefer to set up the machine layouts myself and not just let the solver do it because I want to have more even numbers, and deal with overflow properly

[cunning glade]

Interactive map cuz when I need 30k coal it's nice too figure out what are all the nodes I'm gonna need

[weak bloom]

so that's what I use modeler for

[cunning glade]

When I need 390 assemblers for silica I don't wanna do that personally

I just like knowing how many I need too make for what I need

[balmy willow]

It means we need a 18 story screw factory

[cunning glade]

All moved around by factory carts

[clear night]

And I’m over here still trying to get out of the all over the place factory to the multi story factory buildings

[balmy willow]

Exactly

[warm burrow]

how does my oil pump fill up if the pipe has 600 flow rate

[cunning glade]

Thank fuck dark matter residue is a gas

[next ivy]

is it consumed fast enough

also, dont look into fluid mechanics

[warm burrow]

some of the refineries arent even 100% on

and its 20 refineries taking 30 oil per min each

[next ivy]

any height change from mine to processing

[warm burrow]

a bit but i placed a pump in the beginning

math aint mathing

[cunning glade]

Huh

Yk watching dosh make 100 singularity cells

And then seeing my build need 224 of them doesn't fill me with very much joy

[cunning glade]

Tbh #screenshots get a photo best way too figure out fluid issues

That or u could make a post in #1038092680493801533

[last mason]

Multi story is painful when the personal elevators don’t reach the roof of the building

[west jackal]

#screenshots message Dear goodness, what is this factory going to be, its HUGE!

[west jackal]

all my factories this playthrough are multistory

[sour schooner]

Hey. I havent played since blueprint autoconnect was added. How does it work? Here Im placing some constructors, mode is set to BP autoconnect, but when I build it, the 2 BP segments are not getting connected anywhere, (middle splitting lane, outer merging lanes, power cables at middle on the beams). #screenshots

[last mason]

#screenshots message I have to build 3 more of those but taller and a lot of fuel gens

[west jackal]

I also want to know Gabor, from what i was told, you have to have conveyors at the edges of the blueprint, but i still havent gotten them to work correctly

[last mason]

Yes

[west jackal]

lol i understand the issue now

[last mason]

But they don’t connect to mergers/splitters