satisfactory

[leaden matrix]

I try and sink them most the time, but getting bottles/plastic here and there is really annoying so i just swallowed the hard pill of balancing

But for one of my aluminum factories I didnt wanna balance so I used a coal gen as a makeshift water sink😭

[empty spoke]

damn wait if i wanna use belts instead of trains i cant start the megafactory before reaching mk6

[opal sphinx]

??

[bitter crow]

i guess i cant procastinate it any longer

[tall lantern]

you can always use more than one belt

[neat pasture]

it was just a gif dw bout it

[bitter crow]

time for the great plubbering

[empty spoke]

replacing all belts across the map would be a nightmare

[bitter crow]

this hack!

[neat pasture]

what hack?

[bitter crow]

i bet tenor.com is a badbad website

[bitter crow]

it prob takes your minecraft account

[ornate saffron]

This playthrough im holding off on large scale concrete production until phase four so I can turn the water into wet cement. Then feed that into four industrial storage with four depots. Overflowing into a awesome sink

[neat pasture]

no dw just all the insignificant things like social secuirty info

[west jackal]

you gonna send that concrete to the nuclear site?

[regal lantern]

In my entire factory, I think aluminium is the only time I have liquids flowing directly to recycle them

[west jackal]

are you jk or serious?

[bitter crow]

jk

[regal lantern]

Everywhere else, every liquid is packaged and either sunk or unpackaged

[bitter crow]

iim stupid, but not that stupid

[leaden matrix]

Ohhh thats smart, gonna make the wet cement at the site of the water or move the water and make the cement by the sink?

[ornate saffron]

Nope for personal use.

[ornate saffron]

Ill just incorporate it into my aluminum facility

[west jackal]

i need to go sphere hunting, i dont even have concrete on a DD still because eveyr sphere i find is blocked by rad/rad dogs or uranium and stingers 😠

[leaden matrix]

For my aluminum casing satellite factory im using valves and a single water storage to balance :>

[leaden matrix]

Ohhhhh thats cool ^^

[regal lantern]

I need to move my aluminium to work with packagers really

[ornate saffron]

In the past I've made a VPJ to manage any issues with recycling the water back into the aluminum production.

[ornate saffron]

This playthrough packaging the water and moving into a DPF facility would be a good option too.

[neat pasture]

its not possible to get the same train station to load and unload is it?

[regal lantern]

It is

[ornate saffron]

This is what I ment earlier when I was saying fluid inputs will likely never be added as it goes against the theme of the game. You need to find ways to deal with the fluid byproduct. You can use other resources and sink but that is the most wasteful options as most option give little points

Finding a way to be productive with the byproduct is where the challenge and fun comes from

Ficsit doesnt waste

[west jackal]

no its not

[fickle locust]

Each freight platform can only be load or unload
You can put loads and unloads mixed in the same station, but each platform will only ever do one

[neat pasture]

alrighty

[normal orbit]

well you can have one terminal load, and another unload, but you will probably tear your hair out mixing that between stations and figure out why it doesnt work

[empty spoke]

are there mk3 miner?

[fickle locust]

Yes

[regal lantern]

Yes

[leaden matrix]

Mmmmmm mk3 miner overclock🤤

[empty spoke]

yea theres no way im starting my megafactory before tier 9

[full escarp]

I start with a mega factory and expand onto and into it.

If one plans properly, there will be a mega-factory from the get go.

[sinful roost]

My mega factory grew to have suburbs instead of getting absorbed lol

[neat pasture]

finally think i automated modular engines

[normal orbit]

you're not sure? :p

[neat pasture]

idk if it works yet ill have to wait until the resources are pumped around

[normal orbit]

ah

[neat pasture]

also cant get my train to work

[normal orbit]

whats it saying

[neat pasture]

its saying station unreachable

[normal orbit]

usually means your station is the wrong way around

[neat pasture]

oh right

[normal orbit]

or a piece of track is missing

[neat pasture]

thats a thing 😭

[leaden matrix]

10 minutes of troubleshooting vs auto connect not working 2 hours ago

[ionic cipher]

can someone check my pick in screenshot et tell me why my carbon machine isnt workink its says no connexion

[normal orbit]

its easy to spot when building with hoverpack, if the auto connect dont work, you suddenly fall like a brick :p

no connection usually means you havnt connected it to the power grid

[leaden matrix]

Wait, does electricity go through the fucking rails

[glacial drum]

Yes

[normal orbit]

yes

[ornate saffron]

Thats how they power trains

[leaden matrix]

This is as big of a small discovery as when I learned you can tap when crafting manually😭

[neat pasture]

if i need to get a train to run back and forth on a single line do i need a train on each end of the wagons?

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[normal orbit]

ye

[ionic cipher]

u need to connect de carbon machine to power constantly ?

[neat pasture]

ayt

[normal orbit]

it needs a connection to send power to yes

[neat pasture]

do i need buffer stops or will the train stop?

[ionic cipher]

and i can cut it when ?

[normal orbit]

you dont need em, but can be handy if you end up driving manually :p

[normal orbit]

you dont

[ionic cipher]

so i constantly need biomass still

[normal orbit]

no

[leaden matrix]

They'll stop at the station ^^

[normal orbit]

the coal gen makes power

you need to connect the coal gen to your power grid or it wont work

[ionic cipher]

understood ty

[neat pasture]

train still doesnt work, theres a train on each end of it and all stations are facing the raight way and powered

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message look like this?

[neat pasture]

no and its not gonna since im gonna expand my working loop

idc anymore i dont have space for that kinda station

[ionic cipher]

so now that i have my coal factory i have to connect a cable that will go all to way to my factories ?

[normal orbit]

yep

[stoic nebula]

wsppp

[leaden matrix]

Yeah, it'll power them

[ionic cipher]

only one cable work ?

[normal orbit]

sure

[ionic cipher]

bc production is what i can use ?

[tranquil flower]

just started automating phase 2 hell yeah

[sick falcon]

is heat exchanger not strictly better than heat sink? cheaper aluminum, uses rubber instead of copper, and faster production

[tranquil flower]

my factory is fucking huge and im not excited to switch all the convayors manually from mk2 to mk3

is there a way i can do it automatically

[normal orbit]

nope

[coarse kindle]

Does anyone know is it possible to get pure ingot refinery alt recipes before you unlock refineries or are they only possible after

[normal orbit]

you need refinery unlocked

[ionic cipher]

120/m of iron is enought for a part 3 to 4 ?

[tranquil flower]

awh

[sick falcon]

if you hover over a conveyor with a different mk selected in the build gun it will replace it

[ornate saffron]

Just leave it.

It works already as you made it for the purpose you made it for.

[tranquil flower]

i know, its just having to go to every convayor and doing it

[sick falcon]

why do you need to switch them

[ionic cipher]

is there a way i can like simulate my futur factory by a site ?

[last bluff]

120/m of iron ore mined? technically you can afk it a bit, you just do it once

[ionic cipher]

ye i have a pure ore so it should be 120

[ornate saffron]

Satisfactory tools is a great way to plan out all the math

And

Satisfactory modeler is a great free steam program for planing the layout

[tranquil flower]

i mean

[ionic cipher]

ok ty ill try

[tranquil flower]

why wouldnt i, its more effeficent

[last bluff]

you might want much more than a single ore node for your main progress but for the space elevator, you're lucky

[sick falcon]

its not, it wont speed up the manufacturing times at all

each part still takes the same amount of time to build

[ionic cipher]

yeah i mean i just unlocked coal i think 120 should be enought

[ornate saffron]

Or. You can just upgrade the belt from the miner o'clock the miner and shunt the resources to another facility. This way you dont stop or pause production or backtrack playing around d with stuff you already did

[tranquil flower]

im so confused lmao

[ornate saffron]

As it is already fulfilling its purpose

[ornate saffron]

Let's start fresh.

Why are you upgrading the belts?

[tranquil flower]

so items can get from one machine to another quicker

[normal orbit]

but if you dont have more items, the speed doesnt matter :p

[ornate saffron]

But I assume they are already getting to where they need to be fast enough.

[normal orbit]

if you're feeding 240/min on a mk3 vs 240/min on a mk4 makes no diffrence

[empty spoke]

uhm guys when i try to place any structure, a green ! triangle pops up on my screen, any ideas?

[normal orbit]

your alt key is stuck, smack it a few times

[empty spoke]

oh lol thanks

[last bluff]

I played that Youtuber skyblock mod and it's way too easy. after the question of "is 1 pure ore node enough", I just imagined the horror of being hard-hardcapped ono

[sick falcon]

@dense violet is sending gasses thru trains unpackaged ok if i dont use buffers?

[normal orbit]

you're gonna want buffers on trains, cause belts/pipes stop when its loading or unloading creating gaps in supply unless you have a buffer/industrial storage

[mystic wolf]

holy, heavy modular frame takes an hell of resources, should i aim at least for 5 unit per minute?

[empty spoke]

is there like a blueprint channel here from people that share their constructs? im looking for a cyberpunk themed bridge over the water

[sick falcon]

i know about the throughput loss, its a worthwhile sacrifice if it means i can avoid the extra infrastructure packaging takes

[normal orbit]

i didnt mention packaging tho

its just general practise for trains

regardless if fluid or item

[ornate saffron]

Our resident fluid expert posted about this recently.

Gases tend to be ducky with trains so ppl package them

So he did some testing

#math-and-meta message

[sick falcon]

so trains in general dont like gasses, not just the buffers

[normal orbit]

well since buffers arent directional, you kinda need to force it with a pump on each end

[sick falcon]

oh interesting i see

honestly packaging seems like less of a pain than managing whatever that is lmfao

[stone quiver]

I can't figure out what would even be worth packaging and in packaging. Too smol brain for it

[ornate saffron]

I just happened to be online when he posted this lol

[ornate saffron]

Nitrogen mostly

[normal orbit]

gases get compressed when packaged, so you can move a lot more volume that way

[brisk warren]

this fluid buffer of sulfuric acid really looks like lemonade but i feel like it needs a taste test to be sure

[sick falcon]

feed it to a lizard doggo to see

wow plutonium fuel rods seem like a massive pain in the ass to automate

not even counting having to do it all next to my chernobyl of a uranium waste dump

[normal orbit]

they're not so bad

[unkempt blade]

if you're already doing uranium it really doesn't add on much more

[normal orbit]

if you use instant cells its super easy :p

skip pellet step

tho pellet step does eat a lil more waste. so if you just wanna get rid of waste its nicer, but instant cells makes more plutonium for whatever you wanna use em for :p

[leaden matrix]

Nahhhh they arent that hard, just takes some trains and a designated spot for the end result

[neon yoke]

Hi, after starting my coal plant i noticed, all biomass generators will stop burning fuel and their power generation wont add up anymore. Just the coal generators. Is this intended?

[normal orbit]

Yep

[tall lantern]

yes, biomass only burns as needed

since it can't be fully automated

[neon yoke]

ah, okay, thank you ver much

[leaden matrix]

I have nuclear and im just learning this btw </3

[normal orbit]

I know some people use em as shitty batteries :p

[mortal ginkgo]

Oi oi oi oi! Take what you said back about my PRECIOUS and READY TO RUMBLE biomass burners!

[normal orbit]

I shan't :p

I said what I said

[safe bison]

has anyone done some maths work to find out what location has all resources closest to

[grim carbon]

not possible

i feel this is history repeating itself for me

[normal orbit]

Area near gold coast have everything. But not in quantities you might want

[grim carbon]

now i need to find bauxite, but when i get close to the location of it, it jumps around

[tall lantern]

unless you were planning to use literally every node on the map (unlikely) that wouldn't be useful anyway

[ornate saffron]

Starting zone... north forest likely

[safe bison]

not starting zone, just location

[ornate saffron]

Likely above you

[grim carbon]

hmmm

[ornate saffron]

Blue crater has everything I want

[sick falcon]

just planned out a whole factory for 5 turbomotors a min, just to check my MAM and see turbo pressure motors

[tall lantern]

and a train network would make it kinda irrelevant, and that's likely what you'd be using to transport this many resources around

[sick falcon]

which seem a thousand times better

[stone quiver]

Eh most alts are just different paths. Some are very nice if they reduce components like instant plutonium and you already have the requirements automated

[last bluff]

does anyone know how to stop petting the lizard doggo?

thusfar I've been unable to

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message this area have all resources, but like not great nodes

[tall lantern]

xeno basher?

[sick falcon]

its a known bug, it softlocks you

nothing to be done unfortunately

[last bluff]

what about a few nobelisks?

[mortal ginkgo]

it solves the problem but then you get sent to gulag for your warcrimes

[stoic nebula]

do trans ppl play satisfactory? as far as I know im the only one

[tall lantern]

it would be surprising if you were the only one, yes

[grim carbon]

@ornate saffron found it, and you are right! It IS above me

I built a tower out of concrete pillars to find it

[stoic nebula]

lol

[stone quiver]

Can't say that's something I find on steam charts

[unkempt blade]

impossible, they're too adorable

[last bluff]

without being too judgemental (or maybe I am 😈 😈 😈 )

autism does happen to be common with LGBT, and factory games are the honeypot of autistic people (Linux-adjacent)

[stone quiver]

Because of trains?

[stoic nebula]

THATS CRAZY

[stoic nebula]

well i realize neuronontypical people (like autistic people) play this game but i was wondering specifically about trans

[last bluff]

I'd be surprised if this game at all deviates from that

[stoic nebula]

explain?

[last bluff]

also what's the opposite of trains autism? my experience says Warriors and similar fandoms

[white dawn]

I mean, how in the world would anyone here have actual statistics about that? I'd be shocked if Satisfactory's demographics were noticeably different from just, like, the general population's demographics

This is all sort of #off-topic-general IMO though

[last bluff]

there's 0 way this game has the same demographics of Town of Salem

[stoic nebula]

exactly

[white dawn]

Still, I'd recommend diverting over to the offtopic channels

This really isn't a topic for In Here

[last bluff]

I thought alphas became a bit too easy until I got sleepy and died to one

[fervent crypt]

how do i protect myself from radiation ?

[last bluff]

only hazmat suits work, apart from not bringing the materials to your base

[stone quiver]

Radiation filters. Gas mask and hazmat suit Filter --> iodine filter

[fervent crypt]

endgame level ?

[sleek creek]

Do you all use both inputs to load Train Freight stations?

[tall lantern]

yes, with a buffer industrial storage

[last bluff]

you can make them at the time you should even consider using nuclear power

[sleek creek]

I was planning on hiding the storage units below the freight station. But cannot figure out a way to use double inputs that doesn't look ugly.

[night birch]

How do you stack machines within eachother in blueprint designer - i can't find anywhere any guides but i keep seeing blueprints that have like 5 buildings within itself?

[normal orbit]

pretty sure its a mod? normally you can't clip machines into each other

[night birch]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/details/id/11235/name/Phase+3+Heavy+Modular+Frames+11.25+Mk4+4x3 this one has buildings within each other

[normal orbit]

oh thats just nudged into place

[mortal ginkgo]

ridiculously modded, considering it got a water extractor on top of it lol

[night birch]

thats another thing - how is it working - placed it and it got water... how?

[shell oracle]

I just use the bottom one with a basic lift and the top with a tiny conveyer and basic lift

[night birch]

how do you nudge it into place?

[mortal ginkgo]

again, modded. also there is a very hacky trick of putting a water extractor on a BP maker too

[night birch]

right... I see I didn't realise it was modded

so basically it hacks more or less?

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message you can make stacks like this, just press H and move the machine

[night birch]

hmm he had 10 assemblers within same space - i tried it in blueprint designer - wouldn't let me place it

[mortal ginkgo]

yours are still in reasonable spaces. that BP has things literally inside each other

[night birch]

Exactly

[normal orbit]

#satisfactory-experimental message this is 12 assemblers in a blueprint. you can do a lot with verticality in the blueprint designer without resorting to weird glitches and mods

[night birch]

basically the blueprint is actually slightly bugged - assemblers were not getting concrete, i was able to build them outside of BP and reconnect to the line with splitters and mergers

but i was trying to figure out how it was built to see if i can fix the bug

cause 10 assemblers take up the space

And it wouldn't let me relay the conveyor belt, which i assume is cause buildings are stacked within eachother

[mortal ginkgo]

as the good'olde saying goes, make your own BPs 😛

[night birch]

yeah fair enough 🙂 I was just curious

i mean i got it working with side fix, i guess i'll know better in future 🙂

[safe bison]

should I avoid repeating decimals in production, e.g. percentage

especially when working with oil stuff

[eager palm]

I feel that they kept old models for assemblers and things, so as not to brick older blueprints and factories, but the 1.0 assemblers for example have a larger clipbox. If you have a pre-1.0 blueprint with an assembler in it, you can strip the BP down to just the assembler and save it as a fresh BP, with the old dimensions.

(Which can then be used in new BPs

[normal orbit]

its up to you, i personally like working in whole numbers usually. like clocking rocket fuel gen to 120 or 240% for 5 or 10/min use. Or working with whole manifolds. like 300 copper into a refinery manifold on pure copper recipe will output 750 copper ingots, even if each refiners ends up with a fraction in it.

[eager palm]

The same can be said of old recipes. I have HMF factory BPs that use the old recipe.

[stone quiver]

I do gens to 200%, 8.3333*72. Vs 10 * 60. I guess that's two rows of 30, could be clean

[safe bison]

the issue is, I'm outputting 50 of heavy oil residue and the refinery has a 60 intake (for fuel)
and since it's oil, it will inevitably fail somewhere: be it oil, fuel production, etc

[normal orbit]

just downclock it to accept 50

[regal lantern]

Are the rifles any good?

I've never tried them in 500 hours of playing

[stone quiver]

Yes

Just float and shoot stuff

No one likes sitting and fighting nuclear hogs

[regal lantern]

I just have several containers full of nuke nobelisks, I just throw one at enemies whenever something threatens me lol

[stone quiver]

Requires uranium and filters but ya, nukes do wonders

[night birch]

i just turn off agressivness in settings

[normal orbit]

if a recipe takes 60 HOR to make 40 Fuel, and you have 50 HOR just do 50/60*40 = 33.3333 and you know what to downclock the refinery to, then as you burn the fuel, 1 fuel gen is 20, so you need to downclock the 2nd one to 13.3333/20 = 66.666%

[regal lantern]

That's no fun for me

[autumn path]

When placing an object (hypertube branch) i can rotate using mouse scroll, how do i flip it?

i want the branch on the other side

[safe bison]

but that leaves it to a repeating decimal in the percentage

[normal orbit]

Doesn't really matter

[safe bison]

right

[normal orbit]

It's what you got and you need to use it or they stall

Alternative would be to make more hor

[autumn path]

My constant need for perfect effeciency says otherwise

[reef basin]

perfect efficiency literally goes hand in hand with clocking

[safe bison]

shouldn't I avoid repeating decimals though

technically speaking

[formal edge]

Does anyone know how to get distance in the build hologram? I can't link to the you tube example or put an image of it. 😐

[junior creek]

hey sorry to interfere but can I drain a smaller lake using water extractors?

[formal edge]

youtu . be/dEaB0cbiotY?t=1212 maybe allowed?

[junior creek]

like is it possibe to completely drain it and run out of water

[autumn path]

I would assume no, resources are infinite so would assume the water is, never seen it lower

[dense violet]

you'll need item buffers still.

[normal orbit]

Iirc my basic oil starter is a fully overclocked normal node sending 300 crude into 10 refineries. 5 plastic 5 rubber. By product is 150hor which goes into 2.5 refineries to make 100 fuel which power 5 gens for 1250mw

[junior creek]

great thanks because the lake I fouund for my coal power generator is more like a puddle than a lake

[autumn path]

there is a map if you don't consider it cheating

[safe bison]

follow-up question to the person above me, but why are there rivers and lakes on a planet where rain doesn't exist

[autumn path]

is it 4 coal near the main starting spot?

[whole robin]

because science!

[normal orbit]

Rain coming in 1.2. it stopped working with the ue5 change in update 8

[autumn path]

water can exist without a rain cycle

[junior creek]

alien waste.

[safe bison]

also doesn't it evaporate or something technically, so rain should exist if water exists

[autumn path]

depends on the atmpsphere

in earths temperature and pressure, yes

also it could evaporate, but something else takes it or the conditions aren't proper for clouds, or it is so litle it just adds moisture to the air and something else is removing it

[tall lantern]

rain does exist, we've just been in a drought for a year and a half

but it'll start raining again some time in the next few months

[safe bison]

another thing, where does the coal and oil come from

[tall lantern]

previous pioneers

[eager palm]

In engineering physics, they really hammered home the idea that 3 significant figures reduces the marginal error to an irrelevant amount. We get 4 with over/underclocking.

[autumn path]

Plants

Most oil on earth is from plants, we just like to say its from dinosaurs

[eager palm]

It’s all from corn

[safe bison]

do they use repeating decimals in real factories

[autumn path]

no we round

[safe bison]

is that why devices have such a short lifespan

[autumn path]

but we don't shut down from overstock on feed materials

which devices?

[safe bison]

fridges, TVs, phones, etc

they're all so prone to breaking few days after warranty expires

[normal orbit]

Planned obsolescence. Gets you to consume more

[autumn path]

we round to an eight usually, or like 16th or closer, (thousands) on machined parts

hopefully europes new laws change that for appliances

[safe bison]

why powers of 2

[autumn path]

fractions of an inch

[safe bison]

what do you work irl

[autumn path]

engienering technologist for industrial piping

so satisfactory

[safe bison]

so you build pipe factories?

[autumn path]

in plant 3D(autocad)

[safe bison]

do you use AI

in other words, chatGPT

[autumn path]

i don't use chat bots but ai has been in CAD for atleast a decade yea

[safe bison]

interesting

[eager palm]

As machining precision requirements increase, rework/recycle costs go up, so there has to be a reasonable tolerance of under/oversizing. It’s usually within a margin of “doesn’t really matter” but it’s really only super important in mechanical parts because movement exaggerates dimensional disparity over repetition.
Long-winded late response, but TLDR is money.

[junior creek]

sorry to interrupt again but what would be the best way to aquire coupons?

[autumn path]

feed extra shit

[eager palm]

What phase of the game?

[autumn path]

once you get to oil you will probably have scraps

[junior creek]

3 and 4

[safe bison]

do you like hunting

[junior creek]

or well phase two of space elevator

[autumn path]

personally i run to cadmium as soon as i can and feed it straight into it because you don't really use until like phase 6 or soemthing

[safe bison]

you mean caterium?

[junior creek]

oh so then just dump the scraps

[safe bison]

oil is 5-6 I'm pretty sure

but when you get to oil you'll have a lot of byproducts that you can throw

[junior creek]

I mean rn I'm using copper wires because I've got a bunch of those\

[eager palm]

Smart splitters on all production, send excess to a sink. Max out nodes and overproduce within limits of current belts.

Quartz products are nice for early coupons

[autumn path]

yea, stoned and call it that alot, pretty sure thats the real mineral it is based on

[junior creek]

okay thanks I'll try something like that

I'll just grind cupons for a bit then stop production of it cuz I'm not planning on making any huge factories soon

[eager palm]

If you only want short bursts, hunt creatures and sink the dna

[autumn path]

quarts would be really good too yea

[junior creek]

don't you need like a thousand?

[eager palm]

It’s like 1000 points per thing

[autumn path]

thousand dna, for the first coupon

[unkempt blade]

personally I just use cast screws and send them directly into a sink to maximize coupons per unit of power

[junior creek]

hmmmm yeah that's kinda a lot tbh..

[eager palm]

Points=/= items

Sink one dna, get 1 coupon

[autumn path]

never cared about power too much, other than the bio fuel phase

[safe bison]

doesn't it increase

[eager palm]

Yes

[autumn path]

and right now about to enter coal, have the mats to build 64 coal plants so won't need to worry for a long while

[junior creek]

ohhh damn my bad I missunderstood you guys I just got 7 cupouns from dna SWEET

[safe bison]

btw

whatever you do, never buy equipment/parts

[stone quiver]

Just sink your elevator part overflow, the rest isn't that important and you'll score massive amounts late game

[junior creek]

Yeah lol that seemed kinda dumb to me from the start

[eager palm]

You can buy parts if you want, just better to automate them

[unkempt blade]

except the boom box which is the second best weapon in the game and the first best noisemaker

[safe bison]

pointless

[safe bison]

that is good

[stone quiver]

Using coupons for parts is for going fast, since you're only aiming to build what is necessary

[autumn path]

i buy parts most runs , and yea i put a sink on the end of all my runs sometimes, split it half into sink and half into container, once container is full 100% goes into sink

once splitter/one sink/one container, at teh end of all my lines

[eager palm]

I recommend buying some parts with coupons if you’re trying to unlock milestones and you know what you’re getting yourself into

[safe bison]

just manually craft them

[autumn path]

time saved is massive

[stone quiver]

Manually crafting a metric load of high end assemblies isn't a thing.

[safe bison]

build a factory that makes a lot of that part?

[stone quiver]

And now we're going in circles

[autumn path]

bio fuel isn't automatic

[safe bison]

oh well

I thought you were referring to other parts

[autumn path]

you skip biofuel, or any other phase you prefer

Can i flip an item instead of rotating it? hypertube link PC

[brisk warren]

threw a nobelisk at a spitter and the spitter shot it out of the sky 😭

[spare prism]

Do I need portable miners at all in late game?

[reef basin]

miners, drones

[ornate saffron]

yes you need them for non portable miniers

[spare prism]

I got hard drive recipe for automated miner

Or wet concrete

[reef basin]

you can automate them with that recipe

don't ask us what to pick, pick what you want to pick

[spare prism]

That's why I'm asking of they are needed

[zenith pecan]

I should get around to making a portable miner factory haha, I keep mass hand making them when I run low while I conquer the map.

[fluid estuary]

Hey guys if I’m doing coal power how many MW should I be making I’m currently at 600 but I need more

[full escarp]

uh as many as you can squeeze.

dont just calculate to what you can currently do - go beyond that for future.

[reef basin]

you should make enough to run your factory

[elfin idol]

huh so im running at a render percentage of 40% upscaling to 3840x2160, and my monitor is 1920x1080 and the game actually looks super damn nice

[tall lantern]

anywhere between like 8 and 64 coal gens is fairly normal

[fluid estuary]

I was thinking about going up to 1200MW so like 16 coal gens

[full escarp]

I mean like..every time i start a new factory i aim for 1gw minimum

[elfin idol]

TSR really is good holy

[full escarp]

My current beginner factory is already sitting at 2.7GW and im already using like 2GW

[autumn path]

the alt power mod looks interesting, might try that next run

[unkempt blade]

is it the one with doggos on hamster wheels?

[autumn path]

don't think so. has like 40ish different power buildings i tihnk like 3 or 5 new sources

[elfin idol]

ah wait i can just get a different roof material #screenshots

hhhh i just spent all my tickets

[dreamy nest]

help, i have glitched into terrain and i cant get out?

#screenshots message

just had to complain, i got out now, nevermind 🤣 🤣

[unkempt blade]

that's ok you'll get more!

[proven snow]

Hopefully it wasn't still right next to your face when it got shot

[dreamy nest]

does the ping utility have range limitations on it and also how many geysers are on the map 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

yes and yes

there aren't too many geysers, actually quite few

[dreamy nest]

i found 5

[autumn path]

the interactive map is best way to check

[fickle locust]

31 geysers apparently

[clever mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nev-nevolent-owl-gif-26700423

[brisk warren]

Oh it was. I was hovering pretty close, had one on it already and threw the second. Big ol boom in my face but I lived with like half a bar of hp and the spitter died. So mission accomplished!

[terse mason]

could anyone help me out with my trains?

[hybrid nymph]

Sure

Watcha need help with?

My suggestion is to make a loop with the track

Trains work best when they go in a loop

[terse mason]

so basicaly i have it in a loop but my train wont load or unload anything it breaks at the train site and the freight cargo train thingy then leaves and goes to the next stop

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images of your stations

[proven snow]

Have you set the container stations to "load" or "unload" depending on your need?

[next ivy]

wasnt there a way to change how the build animation looks like ?

[atomic geyser]

I'm still pretty new to the game (Tier 3). Do yall think I should stay where I am at the rocky desert spawn and transport the coal from far away or move my entire setup to where the coal is?

[next ivy]

look around the spot where the coal is
do you have all other needed ore nodes nearby for what youre trying to make

when yes; its worth thinking about building production over there

[proven snow]

I would generally always look around to see if the resources you need are close to each other, better than to transport them long distance back home.

Having smaller factories around the place also makes things a bit less overwhelming. If you end up making a megafactory at one spot producing everything, things are gonna get messy quick

[dense violet]

the game forces you to expand and build factories all over - just build a new factory, don't move

[atomic geyser]

yea I've noticed it gets really hectic really fast

[dense violet]

also - find coal next to water, and burn it there

[atomic geyser]

yea it has water right by it

[atomic geyser]

So what you're saying is have smaller factories all over for specific crafting trees and such dependant on the area?

[dense violet]

so just burn it there. No reason to move it

[next ivy]

thats the mindset im currently using

get all nodes within a range of like <1500m and see what i can make out of em

[proven snow]

I'd say that's generally the better/easier strategy, but it's up to preference.

Megafactories can be fun too, but they're a lot more planning and headache. Which can be fun, but maybe not suited for a new player (I say this having done megafactories for my first two playthroughs heh)

[atomic geyser]

I love the idea of having 1 big factory to produce litteraly everything but that sounds so incredibly difficult

I'm the kinda guy that needs everything to be optimal while also being neat and tidy. This game is litteraly made for me.

[last bluff]

I wish more buildings produced byproducts as that makes both megabases and train setups quite fun

[proven snow]

Once 1.2 is out I'm going to do a new run and put a few challenges on myself to make things more interesting. Been a while since I played so may have to change some things once I see what everything is like, but I plan to make this a more slow-paced long-running playthrough than my past ones, and forcing myself to make more local factories / production regions. What do you guys think of these "main" rules?

Rules:
Randomized ores (coming with 1.2? Otherwise mod it.)

No long conveyor belts (3 full belt lengths MAX). Must use trucks, trains, and drones. Vertical lifts fine.

**No long power poles (6 max distance poles max, or 3 towers). ** Must use local power / ship power sources. No using train tracks to conduct power long distance either.

Be mindful of the environment. **Only utilize half the capacity of coal and fuel deposits (set miners to 50%). Also consider radioactive effect on environment. ** Don’t make huge nuclear facility in middle of rainforest, don't have containers full of waste, encase trains and buildings carrying large amounts of radioactive material to shield the environment, etc.

Make triple the needed elevator parts for each phase

Alternative recipes can only be used in one factory each

[tranquil flower]

this is kinda fire

[zenith pecan]

My kind of constructs violate all those rules 😛

[last bluff]

Once 1.2 is out, I'm going to wait for the SF+ update (and then not change anything about my playstyle)

[tranquil flower]

i didn’t even know 1.2 was coming out i thought this game was still in beta

[last bluff]

It feels like it

[tranquil flower]

well prerelease or whatever you call it

[dense violet]

it was released ... 2 years ago now?

[tranquil flower]

no way

i thought the game was still in like 0.8 or something

i haven’t played since 2022 lmaoo

[peak wasp]

about to complete phase 4 last few nuclear pastas

[proven snow]

the randomized ores and limitations on drawing power lines across the map to make one big grid feels the most exciting to me. I feel it’ll really mix up my playthrough

[sturdy sand]

just beat the game finally

[next ivy]

wasnt there a way to change how the build animation looks like ?

[hybrid nymph]

Hey guys, just in class

[last bluff]

Palworld is EA, with less camera clipping and no pickable foliage inside the terrain

[tranquil flower]

i hope you get your phone taken away 🥹🥹✌️

ok i’m sorry

[peak wasp]

didn't realize that particle accelerators draw up to 15 gigs of power per item that's crazy

[dense violet]

don't sloop them and they wont

[last bluff]

15 gigs?

[tranquil flower]

wdym

[hybrid nymph]

Yes particle accelerators use a lot of power

That's why you got to get more of those fuel generators

[last bluff]

I'm saying Satisfactory has some bugs, and that the handmade map has some foliage issues, full-on holes in the terrain at places, and some other kinks which don't feel fully "release"

And atm Palworld just happens to look and feel the most complete for a game in early access, so an easy comparison

[peak wasp]

of power

[tranquil flower]

ohh i was so confused lmao

they should add satisfactory to nintendo switch i bet it would run great

[last bluff]

Isn't the tooltip 1.5g or something?

[ebon marten]

no it wouldnt

[tranquil flower]

no way

[last bluff]

You basically need a Satisfactory Console Edition to ever have it run there

[ebon marten]

considering the nintendo switch is a glorified mobile with a controller that gets beaten performance wise by mobiles anyways

[last bluff]

I don't think the actual compute is the issue actually

Phones would also struggle keeping miles of factory and outposts + infrastructure running

[tranquil flower]

i was just making a joke ☹️

[last bluff]

(Based on my tests, Satisfactory basically uses 8GB at idle?)

[ebon marten]

and guess what, theres no mobile version or any game as large and performance hungry as satisfactory on mobile

[last bluff]

Minecraft

[tranquil flower]

not as much as google chrome idle am i right guys 😂😂😂😂😂

[stone python]

youre trying too hard

[tranquil flower]

i’m sorry

[last bluff]

One 😂 less and it would've been perfect

[tranquil flower]

satisfactory on mobile would be kinda fire tho

because like

it’s addicting

[stone quiver]

Power demands are never ending....

[last bluff]

6GB flagship models

[stone quiver]

Think I'm up to 200GW and counting

[last bluff]

letsgameitout would blush

[tranquil flower]

holy peak

2:35 am rn and i gotta be up by 6 chat am i cooked

[last bluff]

Relatable

[hybrid nymph]

LGIO is a community member

[ebon marten]

bedrock was coded with mobiles in mind and even the requirements for that game have been increased over the years, satisfactory wasnt coded with mobile players in mind. it technically wasnt even coded with consoles in mind really. i mean sure its out on consoles but there are no mods on the console version and isnt cross platform with pc either becuase the mods that are for pc would end up bricking consoles

[hybrid nymph]

No console modding is so damn stupid!

[ebon marten]

there are quite a few games that are on console that have mods for their games

[hybrid nymph]

I think Coffee stain should have just said to Microsoft and Sony, "If you don't let us mod our game on your consoles, we're not letting you sell it".

[tranquil flower]

this also applies to nearly every game on steam lmao

[stone python]

considering the modding community is an outside team....ya

wouldnt go over well

[tranquil flower]

good point

[zenith pecan]

Can't even alter the object limit on the console builds 🙁 , I'd be screwed trying to play on my xbox instead of my pc.

[last bluff]

Minecraft was a half-joke as Java with optimisation runs much better and with a smaller memory footprint

For the cross-play, modding should just boot you back to the menu if loading in something that doesn't exist causes a critical error, like loading into a world running a different version. Cross-play is just a very difficult thing in general and modding is the least relevant prolly

[tranquil flower]

satisfactory should add a satisfactory marketplace where you spend real money to get “ficsit tokens” to spend on shitty mods ✌️ and also sell the game to microsoft while your at it

[dreamy nest]

every time i open this discord its something more mind boggling

[stone python]

its just a teenager trying to be edgey and look cool. come back in 5 hours when theyre in bed and youll be good

[tranquil flower]

what

[last bluff]

I'd gladly spend 2 months in wages to buy every golf dlc

[tranquil flower]

why can’t steam just have a monopoly over the entire gaming industry bc ngl i wouldn’t mind that

just a thought

[hybrid nymph]

I could go for that on console. You pay like $0.99 per mod to add them to your game. That's fair

I think Microsoft should just buy out Coffee Stain

[dense violet]

like?

[stone python]

please no

leave poor CS alone

[dreamy nest]

like this entire conversation

[dense violet]

they kind of do - since if they decide to deplatform a company it can just sink them

and secondly, what is wrong with you?

[tranquil flower]

this is a very intellectual conversation

[last bluff]

The thing that's the biggest bummer when looking at how paid modding has gone, either you can only use one item at once, or the content can't expect common dependencies, so in both cases modding is VERY limited

[hybrid nymph]

Thanks, I always have something to add ☺️

[dreamy nest]

ok sure

[dense violet]

I block people that repeatedly waste my time so thankfully I don't know what you're refering to

[hybrid nymph]

I just want crossplatform play with console and PC

[stone python]

shit, have i mde it onto that list yet?

[hybrid nymph]

The only reason we do t have it is because PC allows mods

[tranquil flower]

this is kinda aura ngl

[zenith pecan]

That would impose limits on pc players to make the crossplay not crash the console in question when loading into larger save, mine are a little bit infamous for crashing pcs, that isn't even counting mods, that's a whole other can of worms that's already been opened.

[last bluff]

Not having cross play because one platform allows mods is such a stupid reason

[dense violet]

wanting some corporate overlord to control others and how you consume media is also located in the general 'to be blocked' region.

[stone python]

i feel like your saves would cause red ring of death

[peak wasp]

Finally finished phase 4 no wa people actually automate space elevator parts

[hybrid nymph]

It's not my fault that consoles are inferior to PC

[mortal ginkgo]

It is a perfectly valid reason considering how damaging a mod can be if the modder knows how to deal damage and have such intensions.

[zenith pecan]

Unless you got a console with 48/64gb of ram, no chance heh.

[hybrid nymph]

My PC has 32 GB of RAM I can run tons of mods

[tranquil flower]

solution: make good consoles like come on guys it can’t be that hard

[zenith pecan]

Mine has 64gb, I have had saves burn 47gb+ just to even load.

[last bluff]

That's an argument against multiplayer, or an argument for companies to explicitly state modding will get you in jail

[hybrid nymph]

It really isn't, but console is centered around cost, so if a console was the same power as a PC the console would be like $800

[tranquil flower]

is your factory aperture science bro

[zenith pecan]

Will be when I online the portals 😛

[hybrid nymph]

I think it is lol 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

its a valid arguement and concern regardless you accept it or not.

nobody wants their playstation bricked.

[tranquil flower]

is a mod bricking a console even possible, surely it just wouldn’t run and that would be the end of it

[mortal ginkgo]

ah, how naive you are.

[tranquil flower]

[last bluff]

PlayStation modding can create instant wins, unplayable lobbies or bricked game saves, and that's modding on the console

Think CoD and Minecraft

[hybrid nymph]

What about if we just allowed "simple" mods like: fuel chainsaw, glass fluid tanks, and vanilla upgrades?

[tranquil flower]

listen i’ve modded a 3ds before don’t mess with me 😛

[last bluff]

Modding causing damage potentially is an argument for anticheat, constant monitoring and against Linux or bringing it out on PC in general, even if consoles themselves have enough hacks and cheats

[hybrid nymph]

Or what if to connect to a cross-platform game Microsoft just checked for mods and if they detected any it wouldn't let you join. It can't be that hard to program a modded game checker, right?

[tranquil flower]

guys what do you think will happen to steam when gabe newel dies

[last bluff]

Multiple games have a modded game checker, like Civilisation series (which is cross-platform)

[hybrid nymph]

It'll probably become a lot less open to mods 😞

And it'll probably be bought out by microsoft

[last bluff]

Some games don't but you just disconnect (NOT crash) if you find an outdated or modded world, or yourself are outdated

[tranquil flower]

isn’t this just modded minecraft servers, surely that means microsoft is capable of doing it

[hybrid nymph]

That's the magic of Steam, Valve is a privately owned company, so it doesn't have to listen to investor demands

[autumn path]

my entire plant on bio fuel runs 180 MW max, the water pumps alone for my new setup will take 660 MW

[last bluff]

In all fairness, Realms are easy to hack in compared to third-party (Java OR Bedrock) self-hosted servers so Minecraft is not the best example

[hybrid nymph]

They already check for mods on bedrock edition, what would be so hard to do the same thing in satisfactory?

They only allow modded players on PC, and check for mods on console

[last bluff]

Watch a Toycat Realms stream and you'll find bedrock lava walls soon enough so Minecraft is REALLY not the best example

[mortal ginkgo]

Someone who is interested in mods do not play such games in consoles anyway. The risk of anything bad happening is simply not worth it.

In the end you are downloading files of a random dude in internet.

And the ones who want mods in consoles are so few in numbers that their biggest rivals are the "modern audience" 😛

[hybrid nymph]

Sounds like you need more burners for backup, but once you get batteries you can set those up and replace the biofuel burners with coal generators, then just keep batteries to replace the biofuel

Then you can deconstruct your biofuel burners

[autumn path]

na i am fine, just a huge change lol

[mortal ginkgo]

why do you have so much water extractors?

[autumn path]

to run 64 coal plants

[last bluff]

Console games are actually ran in their own isolated container

[mortal ginkgo]

let coal plants handle the water extractor power demand?

[hybrid nymph]

If you want easy power, try the Refined Power mod, it adds solar, and it's super cheap to make

[last bluff]

They would theoretically be safer than Steam games in the damage they could cause

[hybrid nymph]

Correct yes, let the coal power the water extractors, that's what I do

[autumn path]

i didn't say i had an issue

[mortal ginkgo]

Which makes them bigger problems to solve when random John edits something he shouldn't in a mod.

[last bluff]

How?

You quite literally can't deleet every other game and their save files in modern consoles

[mortal ginkgo]

its 6.00am here and I didn't sleep yet. Do you really expect me to give you a big rundown about how one can send data or corrupt whats existing via a mod?

I dont think so, brotherman.

In the end, "console players who want mods" is so niche that its not worth the time and risk.

[last bluff]

The idea of a sandboxed environment somehow being less safe than an open tool you run through a GUI to mod is laughable

[mortal ginkgo]

its so niche that even people who wants romance options for ADA might be larger than their numbers

[last bluff]

Have you ever talked to a console player?

Why would modding in games which have it be so popular if it was a niche thing, or how would that be an income stream

[mortal ginkgo]

Wait, what income? Was this talk about monetized modded content?

[autumn path]

most mods are made by people knowing that maybe 100 people will use it

[last bluff]

Originally, but if people even pay for it, then there's people wanting it

[mortal ginkgo]

Holy hell this whole conversation is cooked, say it ain't so big dawg.

[last bluff]

Do you have any development experience

Or systems administration/IT

[mortal ginkgo]

I do.

[mortal ginkgo]

Gamedev and IT, yes.

[autumn path]

you said worth the time and risk.. what time and risk if they aren't investing money in hopes of making more

[mortal ginkgo]

Can I leave now?

[last bluff]

Then you should know about Docker, no?

And you should know about the Cloud?

[mortal ginkgo]

And your point being?

[last bluff]

And how to catch a thrown error?

That console modding is inherently safer than Steam game modding

[mortal ginkgo]

I am talking about the risk that console makers can have.

[last bluff]

Because the system itself is safer

[mortal ginkgo]

Brotherman of century, a modder who has bad intentions will always try to make sure its intentions are hidden.

There is a reason Elden Ring people can play multiplayer with mods and takes either too much time or simply not get caught despite the fact that game constantly checks what you are doing and whatnot.

"Oh it is easy to find if it is modded", yeah right. If only everything had such silver lining.

I kek at you lot and go to sleep. o/

[hybrid nymph]

I have a dumb question about Minecraft? why doesn't Microsoft just buy the Tinker's construct mod from the mod creator for like $50,000 and add it into the official game? it would make so much sense, make the game so much better, and be very simple for Microsoft to do. so why haven't they done it yet? does Microsoft not like making money? Makes no sense to me?

[autumn path]

you are so over teh board and keep changing the goalposts it is crazy, now you are basically talking about hacking

[mortal ginkgo]

I was always talking about "mods having bad intentions" and why "a game dev may not really bother about it for such reason and is justified".

Anyway, if this game gets mods for console, more power to you lot. Just expect that it ain't happening.

[autumn path]

so now it is game devs? first you said you were talking about consol makers

[elfin idol]

classic discord argument

[last bluff]

Tbh so did I, but that's a thing both consoles and pc struggle with

Hacking is an argument for stricter anticheat and in the worst case against pc releases

[mortal ginkgo]

It is both and they are related. I thought it was rather obvious. You are trying to aim at something but it doesn't make sense.

[elfin idol]

both go sleep u will never agree with each other

lol

[autumn path]

na i am just pointing out your nonsense when you try and argue with him

[mortal ginkgo]

no I will not go sleep. I am an impure limestone node

[mortal ginkgo]

you weren't good at your job, you are free to stay quiet

[elfin idol]

then get to making concrete

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, that is a valid arguement.

[last bluff]

People will not like the main progression being overthrown that much, or else flint might have tools and copper would actually be a new tier

[autumn path]

i was making it more obvious to others, i knew you wouldn't understand it even when explained

[hybrid nymph]

Get back to concrete production -Ada

[mortal ginkgo]

Sure buddy, you were always 100% correct in your life.

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to but brother Molded Recipes asks too much Concrete!

[visual wolf]

I did it. Finished Project Assembly for the first time.

[hybrid nymph]

How would adding the ability to make custom better tools do that? It's such a good feature

[hybrid nymph]

You just beat the game?

[visual wolf]

Beat it? Well, that depends on your definition. I no longer have any milestones or objectives.

[hybrid nymph]

Then you win 😉😁

[last bluff]

They want to keep recipes in the crafting table primarily, and they really don't wanna stray from enchanting as a mechanic. What would Tinker's add other than a better form of repairs?

[autumn path]

You are literally the one trying to argue with multiple people at the same time and prove you are always correct....you really don't understand how to self reflect do you?

[elfin idol]

why are the birds singing its 3am

brotherman leave me alone

[last bluff]

Tinker's would be not the worst baseline for a better banner pattern system though, and better repairs would be a nice addition

[hybrid nymph]

A lot of things actually. Namely tool customization, tool repair, and the ability to double ores with the smeltery. Tinker's would be a huge hit with the community

[elfin idol]

right ima go sleep and leave my production line running into sink so i can get lots of tokens in the morning

[autumn path]

3am in winter? seems odd. Is it an owl?

[elfin idol]

probably cuz campus here has lights

[hybrid nymph]

There is a difference between you and I, I'm correct and know I'm correct, and people respect me, people don't really respect you. It's about building a repitation

[elfin idol]

no lol, its like morning birdsong

[last bluff]

They're against multiblock structures, they're against rpg levelling, and I assume they'd be against every added combination of materials to create items, items which are enhanced rather than enchanted, or item recipes which don't look like their vanilla recipes

Also, they did add ore doubling in their "enchantments" way so that might be a bit too late now?

[hybrid nymph]

In other words Microsoft is dumb and cares about kids and their game being simple?

Got it!

[last bluff]

I can easily see them consider the broken elytra treatment for other tools though

[last bluff]

I'd rather call them greedy than dumb, but yes and yes

[stone quiver]

1m 2 or 4 for foundations?

[unborn nova]

i use 1 for big platforms just cause its the cheapest

[last bluff]

Preference, but 4m is slightly easier to not accidentally have then float if you care about aesthetics. Check the world grid though if you're building against a miner

Wait 1 is cheaper? Then nvm

[hybrid nymph]

Minecraft, is my favorite game, but vanilla is just WAY TOO SIMPLE AND BARE BONES for me

[last bluff]

I play so much modded where the 3 are all the same price

[unborn nova]

i assume they are right

[hybrid nymph]

Vanilla is so damn BORING!

[stone quiver]

Glass has to be 1m too

[hybrid nymph]

There is nothing to do, you can beat vanilla in 4 hours, then you're done

[last bluff]

I share your opinion tbh

[hybrid nymph]

If there aren't mods installed on Minecraft, there is no reason to play it in my opinion as a master Minecrafter

[last bluff]

Personally, I might prefer Creative Minecraft, but modded comes close with some QoL like near-infinite interdimensional storage

[hybrid nymph]

I wrote half of the modded wiki

For Minecraft

[last bluff]

What is the Modded Wiki? FTB?

[hybrid nymph]

If you've visited the FTB wiki you have probably read one of my articles before

[unborn nova]

1m and 4m have the same material costs 😭

[hybrid nymph]

I wrote like 5000 articles on that website

[stone quiver]

Snapping 1ms is a pain

[last bluff]

You sound a bit young to have written the primary FTB pages as they've been around for a bit

[last bluff]

Good

I did complain about the Release tag for this game, but with stuff like that, I'm glad the devs chose the gameplay balance over "realism"

Platforms having the same cost is quite, may I say, "satisfactory"

[hybrid nymph]

I only cheat with awesome sink points, I do EVERYTHING ELSE legit

[last bluff]

Wat?

[hybrid nymph]

I want that golden nut statue

Gotta get it

[stone quiver]

Just sloop and afk, sink every phase 4/5 you can and donezo in a day or 3

[old bramble]

Hey I need some help with an issue. So I have the Dimensional Depots set up for a majority of items. But when I dismantle like Constructors, Foundations, etc. I get them back into my inventory which clogs them up. I haven’t found an options to disable item return on dismantle. Is this something I just have to “deal” with or is there a solution I’m just not recognizing yet?

[hybrid nymph]

I've already done enough AFK in gaming, I AFKd in Minecraft for like 8 hours before multiple times. I left my computer on white I was at work

[hybrid nymph]

You have to deal with it or use a mod

[old bramble]

So I’m on console so my only option is just ‘deal’ with it 😂

[hybrid nymph]

Yes, that is correct 💯👍

[old bramble]

That’s my only gripe with the Depot right now. Dismantling just clogs the inventory with stuff I don’t need lol.

[hybrid nymph]

It's like that on PC too unless you have a mod that sticks it back inside the depot

Just a core mechanic of the game. Ficsit does NOT waste!

[stone quiver]

It's very easy. Build a sink, a container, drop it in, done.

[old bramble]

I feel SOOOOOOOOOOO stupid now.

I didn’t think about using a sink 😂

[stone quiver]

The sink is the trash can

[hybrid nymph]

Oh yeah you can sink it lol 😆

[stone quiver]

Faster than hitting delete

[hybrid nymph]

Hadn't thought of that duh

[old bramble]

God I hate feeling so damn stupid.

[hybrid nymph]

I only sink high value items

The lowest value item I sink is heavy modular frames

They're worth 10,000 points

Modular engines are worth 5000

But adaptive control units and super computers are where it's at

Adaptive control units are worth 76k and supercomputers are worth 96k

[stone quiver]

I sink everything that ever hits my inventory now

Only keep bullets and food after a construction project

The rest will refill

[hybrid nymph]

Nice 🙂👍

You figured it out, good job

[fleet flower]

*Me (newer to Satisfactory but far enough i need crude oil for plastic) --

"Oh hey look a cave that seems like there's crude oil somewhere on the other side"

a minute later

"Oh sweet a bunch of mycelia mushrooms"

30 seconds after beginning to mushroom farm

"🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬"

[hybrid nymph]

You can't farm without mods 😔😭

I just totally wish you could farm: mushrooms, trees, pale berries, beryl nuts, and bacon mushrooms

[autumn path]

Me using this chainsaw is just step 1 of farming, clearing the land, I am a farmer, I just fail every run thru at stage 2, tilling the land

def RPing as a farmer thou

[hybrid nymph]

I just wish farming was part of the base game. I want to be a Ficsit Farmer!

There is a farming mod "Ficsit Farming" it allows you to grow food and make: muffins, cakes, bread, baked potatoes, corn on the cob, and many more

[autumn path]

maybe in the paid dlc

[hybrid nymph]

I would totally get it

[storm hamlet]

Hey guys im wanting to use a train to bring ingots into a factory, is it better to have a storage container at the unload or loading phase of the train or both?

[hybrid nymph]

Farming DLC for $0.99?

[elfin idol]

look in #screenshots for how i leave my game running overnight xDDDDD

truly beautiful

[hybrid nymph]

Storage before the station in case of overflow, then have the belt going into the station

What are you trying to craft?

[agile saffron]

choo choo jank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9eJqsa75uQ

[hybrid nymph]

Choo Choo is NOT jank lol. Choo Choo is love, Choo Choo is life 🧬

Choo Choo mother******

[elfin idol]

duck

uh

[native tapir]

There is nothing wrong with that train

[storm hamlet]

Im just doing a big factory trying to use trains to bring it all in. Right now im working on the ingots iron/steel/copper/caterium. Nothing else is placed right now. Just the train push pull for ingots.

[agile saffron]

and there is everything wrong with the tracks the train is riding on

[native tapir]

There is nothing wrong with those tracks

[agile saffron]

there is

I would expect choo to fall off tracks, not change directions

[hybrid nymph]

Choo Choo never falls off tracks unless the track ends or it collides with another train

[hybrid nymph]

Why aren't you crafting the items next to the ingots and just transporting those?

[agile saffron]

but... le track does end

but instead it just turns around going in a different direction on the junction the track ends at

[misty saddle]

sometimes it is just easier to transport base items in, like in my nuclear facility so many different components are needed, so i just shipped raw ore in and craft everything onsite

[native tapir]

It simply folds back on itself

Bug. Fun one!

[hybrid nymph]

Hmm fair point. Makes sense

Hey guys I need help with something

I need help with train signnals

I need someone to do it for me

Either that or I need another train station

Guess I'm making another train 🚂

[storm hamlet]

Haha so uh I tried that but I didnt make it big enough so I went out and got a nice big open area and even built it off the ground so I can make it as big as I want. I thought about just bringing in the raw materials, but decided to leave smelters/foundries next to the extracters, im also making concrete at the node and using the same ingots train to bring it in. All ingots/ concrete are being made at 600per min. Ive left room to have multiple train stations if I need more than that. Ive been on phase 4 for like 200 hours lmfao. Ive spent 90% of my first play thru working/ fixing my 33.5k MW turbo fuel power plant. I hate fluids lol

[hazy topaz]

im up to 61.7 hours in satisfactory woohooo

[hybrid nymph]

I am on my 6th playthrough, and I have 157 hours on this save so far, taking my time, and barely on tier 8

[feral jay]

I was at five hundred I think, before I hit phase 5 this save

I really like to take my time

[surreal ingot]

What is happening here
#screenshots message

Is it just me or why so blurry

[surreal ingot]

Im on second time ever getting to tier 7&8. 130 hours in :D

[hybrid nymph]

I got to tier 7 at 67 hours then just been super slow, just a lot of improvements and building, not really focusing on milestones too much

[storm hamlet]

This is my first ever save. I stopped playing like 6 months ago cause the fluids were annoying me. Decided to give it another go and all the generators are finally running and the fluid is finally exiting the refineries

[hybrid nymph]

It took me 17 hours to get my aluminum factory setup and working, had to rebuild it 4 times

[storm hamlet]

I just did aluminum today. Its amazing what I can get done when im not messing with power. Im finally progressing

[hybrid nymph]

I need more fuel generators

I need to redo oil

I have 2 untapped oil sources

[storm hamlet]

I didnt wanna have to keep messing with power so I just did 4 oil nodes that were close and overclocked them 1800 crude oil. 134 generators lol

Like 83 or 84 refineries lol

[hybrid nymph]

I need more coal to make compacted coal

So I can make more turbofuel

I just need to find a new coal source

I have the vanilla upgrades mod installed which increases the base clock speed of machines

[storm hamlet]

My coal nodes are far away and it looks ugly how i have it going to a train. Ill re do them eventually. Im all vanilla wanting to get steam achievements

[hybrid nymph]

I am going to upgrade the miner MK2 so it can extract pure nodes at least at 750 items/min instead of 600

Same with the oil and water extractors

I also need to upgrade: the constructor, assembler, and manufacturer

[storm hamlet]

If I remember right mk2 with 3 power shards is only 600per min I think you need mk 3

[short fiber]

Omg the mk 4 converybelt is so hot, like omg why can't every belt look like this (i haven't seen mk 5 or above)

[jagged nymph]

it does look pretty sick

mk6 looks cool but it doesnt look anything like the other belts

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah they do look pretty sick, I was a big fan of the mark IV belts for a long time

[quartz echo]

Hey guys I'm new, where do the noobs go to ask repetitive train signalling questions

[feral jay]

Start a thread in #1038092680493801533 and generally somebody'l help you out

If nobody sees it, mention it and link to it in here

[fair lily]

is there a help channel??

[feral jay]

#1038092680493801533

[quartz echo]

Thanks! https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1475729246063427687

[fair lily]

thank you!!

[leaden matrix]

I HATE THE MK4, it does look pretty though :>

[cunning glade]

I'm so hyped for nuclear pasta

Yeah but this is like it straight up pauses for 2 seconds

[cunning glade]

Why do u hate mk4?

[leaden matrix]

Making Encased Industrial beams was really annoying for the early game ToT

[fiery pewter]

It really isn't

It seems to me you're just a tad bit too lazy to work on steel

[unkempt blade]

I feel the same way about mk2 also. 1, 3, 5, 6 are all pretty easy to crank out tons of materials for but 2 and 4 feel like they need more effort at the time you unlock them

[leaden matrix]

Steel is icky and aluminum is more fun🥹

[fiery pewter]

Steel is very fun to work with

[leaden matrix]

ONG, at the time it feels like you get less bang for your buck, especially before you get the DD😭

[sick falcon]

how far do i need to refine nuclear waste before i can sink it

[fiery pewter]

How the hell you even get to aluminum without touching steel

[fiery pewter]

All the way until plutonium fuel rods

No wait

[sick falcon]

damn that’s a pain

[fiery pewter]

I lied, its non-fissle uranium

[leaden matrix]

Alternate recipes, but sometimes you have to touch it

But just enough to get past it

[fiery pewter]

At least I think it is

[unkempt blade]

some of the alt recipes for steel ingots are pretty good and encased industrial pipes makes beams a lot easier

[fiery pewter]

Pipes as a whole have way better rates than beams

[leaden matrix]

I LOVE ENCASED INDUSTRIAL PIPES

[fiery pewter]

But hates encased industrial beams, the exact same item

I know, you're talking about the recipe

[stuck dagger]

no you see, encased industrial pipe + iron pipe = no steel required /s

[solemn forum]

im planning such a massive rework of my factory and completely forgot about encased pipes, you unintentionally saved me such a massive headache lol, i kept getting stuck with my steel beams

[leaden matrix]

This guy gets it🥹

[stuck dagger]

Honestly though, iron pipe is more convenient than I thought at first

[cunning glade]

but they easy

[cunning glade]

real

[stuck dagger]

I'm making modular engines out of nothing but iron and rubber

[leaden matrix]

They easy later

[cunning glade]

they easy by the time u need them too

[normal orbit]

iron pipe is useful if you dont have coal nearby, but if you use like solid steel ingots and molded steel pipes you can greatly increase pipe production by like an order of magnitude

[leaden matrix]

They steel
They icky
Icky steel

[fiery pewter]

You see a problem
Where there is no problem
Fake problem

[leaden matrix]

It is a personal problem
Real problem
Me problem

[solemn forum]

real

[normal orbit]

like i got a factory turning 1800 iron ore and 1800 coal into 2700 steel pipes/min :p

[misty saddle]

Steel is chill. I personally have beef with oil setups

[stuck dagger]

I hate refineries

[solemn forum]

ive had fun with my steel production thusfar, it being tedious is what makes it fun to solve

[misty saddle]

Organizing refiners neatly with belts and pipes is a bit of a pain, best I can figure out is just lifting solid inputs above the rest

[cunning glade]

steel is chill wym

[gloomy tusk]

refinerys are the best

[woeful raven]

Hello! Is there a way I could do a dimensional depot + sink and splitter setup for multiple items? Or is it really one depot for one item?

[solemn forum]

that being said, its understandable to avoid

[leaden matrix]

I dont like steel

[leaden matrix]

I LOVE REFINERIES SM

Second best part of the game by far

[misty saddle]

Crazyyy they drive me insane 😭✌️

[stuck dagger]

It's what I do but it's not the most brainless solution

[gloomy tusk]

one depot per item

[fiery pewter]

You are one emotional rollercoaster

[stuck dagger]

sure there's less setup time but then you have to remember what item is clogging others

[leaden matrix]

I like refineries, I just dont like steel, im a simple guy

[fiery pewter]

Nonono

[misty saddle]

They’re so hard to make a clean setup with on one level which drives me nuts

[woeful raven]

What could be a better setup regarding the matter?

[fiery pewter]

Not really

[leaden matrix]

My only issue is they take up a good bit of space sometimes :/
(and they deal with pipes so they can be jank sometimes)

[unkempt blade]

Have you tried making steel beams out of aluminum yet? That's pretty fun

[fiery pewter]

There's this wonderful thing called a blueprint designer

Saves some time

[unkempt blade]

Screws made from aluminum are definitely the best screws

[stuck dagger]

Like others said, one DD per item
Mine is broadly grouped by source material (e.g. one DD takes plastic and rubber)

[leaden matrix]

:0
Noting down that in the list of alternate recipes I need

[misty saddle]

I’m not a fan of blueprinting myself tbh, for certain things it’s great but most of my factories I just build from the ground up

[leaden matrix]

I use them mainly for rails and some specific stuff :>

[stuck dagger]

I just don't like how big and flat I have to make things when refineries are involved

[fiery pewter]

Sounds like you're just giving yourself a handicap

[misty saddle]

Yeah that’s what I use them for, rails, stacked conveyors, specific architecture stuff etc

[stuck dagger]

They're too tall and the chimney smoke clips through structures so you have to make it "outdoors"

[woeful raven]

Your setup is what I am trying to achieve 🥲 but I don’t know how it goes. Do you make the items conveyed alternate?

[short fiber]

I have a BP for temporary biofuel now lmao

[cunning glade]

why

[stuck dagger]

Not at all, but I have a storage container placed before the DD

[woeful raven]

What happens then if for example your rubber is full and there’s a rubber before the input of the DD. Doesn’t that stop your plastic from entering the DD?

[misty saddle]

Nah just haven’t found them useful at all in my gameplay for factories, I change clock speed and adjust everything for specific outputs. Why place an 8 smelter blueprint and then modify when I can place the exact amount I need for my output

[stuck dagger]

Correct, and that's why it's not the most efficient, you have to use or discard the rubber before the plastic can come in

[unkempt blade]

I think it's kind of an acquired taste. They get really good for large scale builds or when you're doing a lot of repetitive decorative stuff imo

[stuck dagger]

or just move it into your inventory

I only set it up that way because I was worried that I'd run out of spheres one way or another

[misty saddle]

Yeah decorations is what I mainly use them for lol. Building rail supports or light sign walls 100x manually isn’t really it 😂

[unkempt blade]

I like doing a lot of little lights and stuff like that just because I think they look nice and they're way less annoying as part of a BP than doing them by hand for the whole factory #screenshots message

[misty saddle]

That looks sick

[woeful raven]

Ohhh I see. Maybe I’ll try the alternate one. So it won’t feed the DD multiple amounts of a single item as the other one gets uploaded

I’m thinking:
Let’s say rubber got in and it gets uploaded. The next item on queue is plastic, and since it’s plastic, the third item (rubber) waits at the input conveyor until the plastic inside gets uploaded next. It should balance the item inputs, and if the other gets trapped, you will have

Item 1: Full stack
Item 2: A stack with one missing quantity

And maybe I’ll have the rest in the conveyor go through the sink🫡

Thank you for answering my question!

[short fiber]

Will 2k packaged biofuel last me awhile with jetpacks

[normal orbit]

well depends how much you jetpack around

[fiery pewter]

Everytime I see people refer to the Dimensional Depot as DD, the first thing I think of is Duplex Drive

[exotic hare]

Do any of you have a copy of the script BBT links to in this reddit post? The link no longer works.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1igapde/i_wrote_a_script_to_create_a_time_lapse_of_my/

[floral trellis]

Is there a way to change what fuel you are using on the trucks or no

On console

[ornate saffron]

Just feed your preferred fuel into the fuel input of the truck station

[floral trellis]

Yes but I put Biofuel in and needed it out to put coal in

[ornate saffron]

I was going to go in more details but I saw you had your answer

[nocturne nebula]

Is it true that biofuel is good for the jet pack?

I’ve only ever tried the yellow stuff.

[jagged nymph]

yay i got jetpack

[nocturne nebula]

Yey! 🥳

[jagged nymph]

yeah, its my favorite fuel for the jetpack (that you can get early)

[hybrid nymph]

Nice jetpacks are awesome 👍😎

[floral trellis]

Thanks anyway tho

[nocturne nebula]

I got turbo fuel running my power gens

Not packaged any though.

[coral marsh]

Would yall rather oil extractors mk2 or smelter mk2

[hybrid nymph]

Yes liquid biofuel is the best fuel for the jetpack, it has the longest burn time, liquid biofuel Burns for almost three times as long as gasoline does.

[nocturne nebula]

Nice

[dreamy nest]

i'd prio oil for power needs personally

[jagged nymph]

i like bio more than turbo for jetpack. Turbofuel sends you up fast, but the charge is very short. Bio lets you stay in the air for a long time, but you dont ascend very fast

[nocturne nebula]

Pros and cons lol

[coral marsh]

Once you unlock it, packaged ionized fuel has the efficiency or near it of liquid biofuel and more speed than rocket fuel

[hybrid nymph]

Look no further, there is a mod that does exactly that. It's called "vanilla upgrades" it allows you to research core upgrade clock speed up to 100%

[floral trellis]

Would anyone help me set steel up

[jagged nymph]

yeah, but thats very late

[hybrid nymph]

Sure

[jagged nymph]

what do you need help with specifically

[coral marsh]

Yee

[floral trellis]

Just basic set up really

[coral marsh]

I wonder how well a Mk2 foundry would go down in the game

[jagged nymph]

mix coal and iron into steel, turn steel into beams and pipes

[hybrid nymph]

Like I said, you can do that with the vanilla upgrades mod

[floral trellis]

No i mean like join me and help not tell me lol

[floral trellis]

No i mean like join me and help not tell me lol

[hybrid nymph]

You need to find a coal source, and a iron source near eachother

[jagged nymph]

i dont think theyd ever add a mk2 building

[hybrid nymph]

You're smart, you can figure it out

[hybrid nymph]

Again "vanilla upgrades" mod

[jagged nymph]

i mean its not that hard. think of how many beams and pipes you want, then figure out how much iron/coal that needs and hook it up

[coral marsh]

Very, well aware, I postulate hypotheticals because they're fun to think about

[floral trellis]

Ino that i just wondered if anyone would wanna play and help out

[jagged nymph]

what would a mk2 foundry do

[coral marsh]

No clue

Straight up doubling output wouldnt seem fair, so maybe 2 crafting recipes per building

Idk

[jagged nymph]

i think im gonna go make some potatoes

[coral marsh]

Nice

[ornate saffron]

screws are a better part :p

[coral marsh]

Waiting for assembly directors to finish crafting

[jagged nymph]

this is devastating

im out of potatoes

[nocturne nebula]

Might have to get into aluminium today

[dreamy nest]

aluminum is complicated but handy

[jagged nymph]

required*

[hybrid nymph]

I had potatoes for dinner, potatoes and BBQ chicken

[jagged nymph]

sounds good

[hybrid nymph]

Aluminum is extremely complicated. I had to go through four versions of an aluminum factory before I found one that actually worked. It was tedious and time consuming

[jagged nymph]

i just build shit and hope it works

[hybrid nymph]

Getting into aluminum revolves around finding a coal source, and transporting it by train, then you have to find a water source, and then you have to transport silica by train, then you have to set down refineries and then you have to set down smelters. Ugh 😫

[agile saffron]

if you are just setting up baby's first aluminium for dimensional depot then you can just belt the stuff over to where you need it. But yeah anything else is going to want a choo

[nocturne nebula]

Do you have a fav spot?

[cursive crane]

West coast for aluminum, southeast field for fuel.

Only way to go

[nocturne nebula]

That’s far. I’m in the dunes

[cursive crane]

Still west coast for aluminum, any other location optional for fuel

[hybrid nymph]

Yes, there is a pure aluminum node at the top of the hill, directly due East of the grasslands

[dreamy nest]

i dont think we've been to the southeast part of our map at all

over where the cursor is? #screenshots message

[cursive crane]

Basically. Just east of the... lake? Right next to the cursor theres a buncha oil

More a pond really

[dreamy nest]

cool ty

[frosty mirage]

You are missing out then, blue crater is a nice place for power plants or computer factory setups

[dreamy nest]

guess i know where my next expedition is

[cursive crane]

Just beware of certain rocks you find on the ground that may or may not be.. spicy

[dreamy nest]

ive been re-rebuilding my main factory

for like 6849209120 hours

[cursive crane]

Other than that great basebuilding location to build a very large flat platform over lol

#screenshots message

[dreamy nest]

we plopped down a factory where that drone marker is like, 3 hours into the game and hard commited to the spot

my friend likes the view 🤣

[cursive crane]

Yea. Great starting location, but important to branch out and explore as soon as you can

[hybrid nymph]

Exactly, there are very few aluminum nodes on the map, this is why the grassy fields are the best place to start

[cursive crane]

Honestly there being not that many is a very good reason to start using trains to move it down to you

[night birch]

when you place with the press of the left mouse button, keep holding it and then use mousescroll to turn it around

[jagged nymph]

whats the most fuel you can get from one unit of oil

[sterile blade]

Isn't it a 2-clicks placement?
Ie: move/rotate the hologram -> click 1 -> rotate in another direction ("flip it") -> click 2 -> item is fixed in place

Unless one changes settings about click-and-hold, there should never be a need to hold a mouse button while operating the scroll wheel

[jagged nymph]

what should i use my 300 polymer resin per minute for

hmmmm

i could turn it into plastic and sink it perhaps

and then when i need plastic in the future its ready for me

yeah ill do that

[sterile blade]

Making rubber withy it gives you the most output per Resin

[jagged nymph]

true but i know that i need plastic for computers

[sterile blade]

Your choice, I'm just adding data for it

[elder skiff]

Are node spawns random or are they always the same ?

[hybrid nymph]

Make it into fabric and make that into gas filters and radiation filters

[jagged nymph]

eh ill do that later

[hybrid nymph]

Always the same, always the same map, unlike Minecraft the map is NOT procedurally generated

[jagged nymph]

computers are more improtant

[jagged nymph]

and im glad its not, makes the map super cool

[hybrid nymph]

It also helps to keep the file size only a few megabytes

[sterile blade]

For now...

[jagged nymph]

that too

[hybrid nymph]

I have seen Minecraft save files as big as 45GB!

[sterile blade]

Factorio be like: "look at the things they need to mimic a fraction of my power"

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> follow-up to previously-asked question:

Would Hannah rather:

• Snow Biome
• Proc Gen
• Eat Surströmming

[leaden turret]

Satisfactory be like: "look at the things they need to do to mimic a fraction of my dimensions"

[sterile blade]

And what about node randomization?

[leaden turret]

well we're all but certain that's coming in 1.2

[sterile blade]

That possibility is exactly what I was referring to

[leaden turret]

supermarket is still the same supermarket when they move stuff around without telling you

[gloomy tusk]

I HIT PEAK EFFICIENCY

[gloomy tusk]

Finding satisfactory’s rarest world videos would release everywhere

[sterile blade]

The original question was "are node spawns random?"...

[ornate saffron]

moring folks, Back to the factoryu grind b4 work

[leaden turret]

ah, I only saw the bit about the map not being procgen, followed by you saying for now

[sterile blade]

... Huh?

[gloomy tusk]

Goodnight

[elfin idol]

heyyy just a quick tip for any of the visual players out there looking for the game to look good, to reduce pop in of parts changing LOD just run 'foliage.LODDistanceScale 3' in the console and it basically gets rid of it lol

[gloomy tusk]

If nodes were randomised people would make videos to try to find the rarest world where every node was pure

[elfin idol]

it does affect the foliage but funnily enough it also affects a lot of machine parts

[leaden turret]

that implies:

1. that the seed is user-configurable
2. that the distribution algo isn't balanced

[elfin idol]

im not having any performance drops either

[reef basin]

I think randomized nodes would be just shuffling current pool of nodes

[gloomy tusk]

Doesn’t need to be user configurable people could just create new saves until they reached the list of nodes

[gloomy tusk]

Is there any pure Sam nodes?

[leaden turret]

if it's not user-configurable, the virality/utility of a video showing off the rarity is moot

[reef basin]

No idea

[gloomy tusk]

Nah it would be cool to see a world with all pure nodes

In my opinion