satisfactory

[toxic lichen]

each purp will give 10*

yellows 4
blues 2

[hybrid nymph]

i meant to say 10 lol

typo

Still I have only used about 200 shards

[candid marsh]

I mean... I held all my slugs in this world. I'm just in phase 2 and built my coal power plant... already have 83 power shard (more considering the ones I'm using) and I never went for slugs. those were the ones I randomly found

[balmy orbit]

i just think its fun to do some exploration

[candid marsh]

It is... well it is until you find a damn squad of alpha spiders lmao

[balmy orbit]

im the alpga, i smak em

[candid marsh]

well tbf the ones i acltualy hate are those damn radioactive hogs

[balmy orbit]

yes, those are truly awful

the crimes i would perform on those damn hogs would give every peta member a seizure

[candid marsh]

I need a doom mod for this game to use the chainsaw as a weapon

[balmy orbit]

the top middle zone has a very high density of bad guys

[candid marsh]

there's a forest covered with a mist that is actually a pain in the ass

feels like caves in pokemon

[balmy orbit]

have u been at the quarts cave? ish top left

[candid marsh]

I think I been there but not in this world

[balmy orbit]

place is damn cool, a pure sam node down there too, cave is huge so u could make a pretty large factory down there

[hybrid nymph]

I used to make modular engines to awesome sink them, but now I see that it is no longer woth it

[candid marsh]

oh I just use an impure node of sam... I don't think I'll ever need more than that. a normal actually cause the minner is overclocked

[balmy orbit]

ahh, thought u needed more of it

[candid marsh]

dunno in the end game... but as far as I ever got, with any node is ok

[drowsy kelp]

I either ram them with my exploration vehicle of choice or hoverpack wayyy into the sky and nobelisk them

[quartz yoke]

@candid marsh my favourite start place is the Swamp, which is south of the Dunes.

[balmy orbit]

just facetank them

[drowsy kelp]

Nothing’s that hard if you can stay safe and have patience

Except when a stinger catches you off guard and leaps at you before you know what’s happening

[drowsy kelp]

What makes it your favorite

[balmy orbit]

this exploration mission just turned into me running in circles collecting slugs in the same area, there are an insane amount top middle of the map

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah there are gonna be a lot of collectables in an area designed to be difficult

Which… i guess depends on exactly how high “top” is

[candid marsh]

but like... you must walk there in order to star in that area. or can you pick it when you create the world?

[candid marsh]

you know? I almost always forget to use vehicles lmao

[hybrid nymph]

I'm just hopping on and imrpoving my factory

[drowsy kelp]

The 4 starting areas are the grassy one, the rocky desert, one i’m forgetting, and the dunes, you cannot pick an arbitrary starting location

[quartz yoke]

Have to walk there, but it has great access to stuff early... just have to not mind spiders

[quartz yoke]

good access to nodes on the south side, and early access to Parachute for some HardDrives searching

From walking there to Geothermal it took only 3 hours.

could probably have done it faster if I knew which sites to go to first.

[candid marsh]

the forest

that isnt bad to start either... but you will hace to chop a lot of trees

[normal orbit]

A normal Sam node. 2 pure quartz and a normal quartz

[candid marsh]

lol I forgot to research catherium

Just when I needed an smart splitter -.-

[balmy orbit]

what do yall think about the ''rigor motor'' alternative, it is 3 rotors, 3 stators and 1 crystal oscillator which gives 7.5 per min, seems pretty good even tho more complex

[candid marsh]

never used it tbh

While I wait for the pod to come back... Pioneer reveal time

#screenshots message

[balmy orbit]

it does take more components but in general it seems good. regular gives 5/min and this one gives 7.5/min

[candid marsh]

well most of the alternate recipes can be good depending on what your goal is

sometimes it takes more resources but consumes less power, or produce faster, or consumes less resources. The thing is finding the right time to use them

[near frost]

ok so lets say i use Uranium Fuel Rods for my drone fuel, just for the fun of it. how many should i make then?

like i will be using at least around 30 drons in my entire world so ya

[normal orbit]

Enough

[near frost]

how much is "enough"

i was thinking mabey 10

[normal orbit]

Impossible to tell

Useage varies by flight time

[near frost]

i am just gone use 600 uranium and pray

[hybrid nymph]

nice

I'm finishing my SAM factory

[jagged nymph]

how many samuels per minute

[hybrid nymph]

it's a little old

I need to imrpove it

I will

It makes 75 per minute

I think I have to check

I need to sloop the constructors

[jagged nymph]

im not real

[near frost]

I am gone make 6 Rods should be enogh

[frosty mirage]

All of em

[peak wasp]

i do they always fck up my builds

I noticed that fluid pipes have a weird way of connecting to foundations too, if you have have a sandwich layer, you gotta keep putting the pipes on the layer you want otherwise it's gonna be uneven

I've been playing on and off for 5 now I think, 500 hrs total ish

My last playthru I automated power shards before my pc started cooking

I think I started update 7 or 8

I knew I started around 2022 or something

whenever lets game it out posted his vids on it probably

There was one that updated the map nodes I think that was 8

[jagged nymph]

i started right after 8 came out

[finite mirage]

hey where do i suggest features?

[jagged nymph]

idk

[finite mirage]

a fellow arch user?

[jagged nymph]

perhaps

[finite mirage]

quite exquisite

[jagged nymph]

indeubitably

i have 1

[hybrid nymph]

I am real lol

[finite mirage]

hi mr. lol

[hybrid nymph]

never took the test, but I have an IQ of 150

if that means anything

[jagged nymph]

how do you know your iq but you havnt taken the test

[hybrid nymph]

I took an IQ test ay my university

[jagged nymph]

i see

[hybrid nymph]

exactly lol

I don't exactly like to brag, except to dumbasses on the internet

in that case I will absolutely brag to prove I'm better than them

[jagged nymph]

when i went in and did the test i scored a 151 or 152 i cant remember but that was when i was 10 and since its based on how well you score relative to others of your age it would probably be lower if i took it right now

woah

we got albert newton over here

[hybrid nymph]

thanks lol I appreciate it

I also possess 4 college degrees

[jagged nymph]

which ones

[hybrid nymph]

AA in history BS in philosophy, political science, and economics

same degrees Christopher Hitchens had

[jagged nymph]

those are the 4 degrees i have the least interest in getting

[hybrid nymph]

what are you working towards?

[jagged nymph]

well im in high school right now

i probably want a degree in aeronautical science or something similar as im planning to be an airline pilot

no

like i want to be a pilot

i mean it depends

you dont get to choose your plane generally

my goal is to fly for delta

may not get there, but thats the dream

starting my ppl training in a few months

are you asking if there is or you are stating it

oh well yeah boeing has a yoke and airbus has a sidestick

thats not too big of a difference though

i prefer a sidestick

[hybrid nymph]

it's about the study of political system and how policy affects the country

[jagged nymph]

imma be honest i could not think of anything more boring than that

[hybrid nymph]

Democracy 3 is a game exactly about that and it's my #5 favorite game on steam

I find it to be fascinating

I see that lol

what year were you born>?

oh so you're 40

I'm 30

want to know something funny?

I have so much automated wiring I have no idea what to do with it

I have 3 industrial storage units full of it

[jagged nymph]

sink it

[hybrid nymph]

I am keeping so I can make adaptive control units from it

[jagged nymph]

who said anything about waste

[hybrid nymph]

those are worth 90K points each

[jagged nymph]

i have... 6 mercer spheres right now

thats not enough

[hybrid nymph]

it's never enuff

[jagged nymph]

back in my day mercer spheres didnt do nuthin

[hybrid nymph]

now they do, dimensional depots

[jagged nymph]

now i have 9

[hybrid nymph]

I have 25 sloops, and they're all in use

there is a crappy mod called "synthetic somersloops" they're super expensive, and not worth it

try radar towers to help

with the item scanner

[real shale]

POWER?

[hybrid nymph]

power! UNLIMITED POWER -The Emperor

The SAM has been hooked up to the main base

via train

space politics

yeah that was like 40% of the movie

I loved the prequels, the sequels sucked

disney ruined star wars

[crystal cedar]

What hasn't disney ruined

[pine bough]

I need help, every time ADA has a message it comes up on screen but no diolouge is heard, it isnt muted in settings or anything and i have no idea whats wrong, its been like this for a while so just closing and reopening the game wouldnt fix it

i want ADA on

[hybrid nymph]

especially SOLO s star wars story

Emilla Clarke ruined it because she's a shit actor

[pine bough]

?? my pc, the problem is ADA and nuthin else, nuthin else in satisfactory no over apps nuthin, only ADA

[hybrid nymph]

not even woody harrelson could save it because of her terrible acting, Anna Kendrick should have beeen casted instead

Even Kristin Stewart is a better actor

exactly! @pine bough

[crystal cedar]

I checked at #screenshots and ppl seem to have such good graphics. I don't get that even with ultra???

[hybrid nymph]

Women pioneers

[pine bough]

huh

[hybrid nymph]

don't forget it

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message

[hybrid nymph]

no I was just saying that Ficsit only hires women to be pioneers

that's all

which honestly makes sense

nice

[hybrid nymph]

sounds fun

I like trains a lot

[bitter crow]

Could someone explain to me how to use trains? im building a large scale plastic and rubber factory that will ship plubber out via trains, but i havent used trains before, should i have one container per stop or like what should i do?

[hybrid nymph]

train are simple, just build the track and the station and tell the train where to stop

[bitter crow]

can i just treat it like a manifold? where station one gets 50% and so on? or would that create issues?

[hybrid nymph]

yes that's correct, just make the track a loop

I think I fixed my trains

I think I need to fins 2 somersloops now

or install some mods

[bitter crow]

ive been looking for this answer for days, thanks alot

[hybrid nymph]

your welcome, trains are pretty simple and the most useful vehicle in the game

[zenith pecan]

I swear my foundry is trolling haha, I saw one of the belts wasn't running at full capacity the other day, I finally got a production plant up to use it, went back and all four outputs are at 1200 🤦‍♂️

A couple!

The transport tubes will actually be taken out once I properly online the teleports.

[hybrid nymph]

okay I'm finally doing it, I'm modding my save

[hybrid nymph]

if you have anymore questions, just ask, and I will do my best to help

[pine bough]

UPDATE: When i got leading edge production for tier 8 ADA went "The Mi-" and was cut off 😭

[bitter crow]

thanks alot!!

[oak nymph]

Do y'all know the clock speed a fuel gen need to burn 10rocket fuel/min

[jagged nymph]

like close to 239%

[oak nymph]

Google told me 240%

[jagged nymph]

yeah it rounded

[tall lantern]

It is exactly 240%,not rouunded

[oak nymph]

What's the exact number tho

[tall lantern]

1 burns 25/6 per minute

[jagged nymph]

so is the wiki wrong then

[oak nymph]

I'm gonna trust you so if it burns more I'm gonna blame you

[tall lantern]

Where on the wiki is that 239ish stated?

[jagged nymph]

well it states that 100 percent clock speed is 4.17 flud per minute so i divided 10 (the desired amount) by 4.17 (the 100 percent amount) and it produced that number

[tall lantern]

Or are you using the rounded burn time

Yeah the exact burn time is 25/6

[jagged nymph]

oh is the one on the wiki rounded

i see

i think it should say that on the wiki

[tall lantern]

it does, doesn't it? the bits I'm looking at don't say 4.17

[jagged nymph]

all it says is 4.17. doesnt even say its an approximation]

[tall lantern]

fuel gen page says 4.1666... with a note on the exact value, rocket fuel page says 14.4s

[jagged nymph]

i was on the fuel gen page

[tall lantern]

ctrl-f 4.17: no results

[jagged nymph]

wait where did i see that

[tall lantern]

you are on the wiki (wiki.gg) not the trashfire (fandom) right

[jagged nymph]

i know i saw that but i cant find it again

[jagged nymph]

yea

[normal orbit]

240% is the exakt number, no decimals or rounding

[hybrid nymph]

Oh I'm just a dumbass

[whole robin]

Why does the wiki only list spitters as the only enemy to be careful of while using nobelisks when I've been blown up more times by hogs throwing rocks and intercepting the mid air

[hybrid nymph]

I thought I broke one of my mods, didn't think to check in the milestones to see if I needed to unlock something lol

[reef basin]

it's not. It's 4.1666666666666666666666

wiki just rounds it up

[jagged nymph]

read the rest of the convo

my game crashes like 20 percent of the time when i collect a mercer sphere idk if its caused by a mod or not

due to a null pointer exception

[tall lantern]

probably

[normal orbit]

mod would be the likely cause yes

[tall lantern]

first step in any troubleshooting a modded game is to do it without the mods

[jagged nymph]

kinda hard to recreate though cause when i collect a mercer sphere most of the time it works so if i dont get a crash that doesnt necessarily mean its caused by a mod

but idrc about fixing it its not too big of an inconvenience

[tall lantern]

the normal amount of crashing when collecting mercer spheres is 0

[jagged nymph]

that is true

[hybrid nymph]

hell yeah 150 reanimated SAM per minute

[oak nymph]

But why

[hybrid nymph]

because whynot?

[weary copper]

any1 know any glitches that i can use im only at stage 2 tho

[jagged nymph]

wdym glitches

[weary copper]

uhm

tips/tricks

mb

[jagged nymph]

uhh use manifolds

[reef basin]

tip: learn the game on your own, listen to ADA, don't follow tutorials and videos

[jagged nymph]

i mean watching videos is fine but dont rely on them

like if you cant progress without watching videos you need to work on that

but seeing some cool building tips is fine

[frosty mirage]

Balance exploring and building

[weary copper]

my main issue is power like i gatte constantly go chop down bushes

thx for the help tho guys

[jagged nymph]

please move on to coal power instead of biofuel 😭

[weary copper]

oh

[frosty mirage]

Yea, thats what you're supposed to do for now

[weary copper]

alr

[jagged nymph]

he said hes on phase 2 though

[frosty mirage]

I think he meant tier 2

[jagged nymph]

oh

@weary copper are you on tier 2 or phase 2

[weary copper]

top right it says complete fase 2 but imma build my factory again cuz it's rly ass rn

[frosty mirage]

And when you check the hub - what tier are you at?

[smoky trench]

If i add like 5 trains to a single track that runs a circle will they de-rail each other or just stop behind each other when they get to the same stop

[weary copper]

tier2 atm

[jagged nymph]

so just to confirm, tier 3 and 4 are greyed out right? like you cant click them?

[lost heart]

will de-rail, need block signals to force them not to

[weary copper]

oh no its unlocked tll tier 4 i just only bought all the upgrades till tier2

[jagged nymph]

ok then research coal power and get that setup

[weary copper]

yup i got enough to unlock coal

btw is their any way that other ppl can join my world and help me build or is that not possible in this game?

[tall lantern]

multiplayer exists, yes. though I wouldn't recommend it while learning

[weary copper]

oh alr thx

[fresh zinc]

Just did a hardrive scan, got alternates for fine concrete or cast screws, should i take one of those or rescan?

[bitter crow]

Cast screws, pretty much the best alt in the game

[fresh zinc]

thanks 🙂

[bitter crow]

removes a whole step of production

[white dawn]

Eh, Cast Screws saves a bit of space+time in the early game, but it's otherwise unremarkable

Nothing wrong with using it, but far from the best in the game, IMO

[fresh zinc]

i havent claimed it yet, would it be worth taking it or should i rescan?

[white dawn]

All alt recipes are at least situationally useful. Go ahead and grab it. :)

[fresh zinc]

okayt

[white dawn]

There are also more drives on the map than you can use (and you can outright buy drives from the AWESOME shop later in the game)

So if you keep collecting drives you'll end up with literally all the recipes anyway

IMO if you're ever unsure, just flip a coin and then go find more hard drives. :)

[fresh zinc]

ahh gotchya

[sterile blade]

Can you flush hard drives in the toilet?

Maybe it could increase the chance of getting Pure recipes or other water-related recipes

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that alt recipes are just there to provide options. They'll swap one resource requirement for another, or simplify production at the cost of resources, or save resources but introduce complexity, etc, etc, etc

For Cast Screws, the "downside" is a bit hard to see, but the production-line simplification means that you can't take advantage of alt recipes related to Iron Rods. By some measures, for instance, the most resource-efficient way to produce screws is via the Steel Rod recipe to make the rods -- you can't do that with Cast Screws since it skips the rods entirely

Simplification at the expense of flexibility, basically

It's true that most players (especially in the early game) are unlikely to care much about that "drawback" to Cast Screws. And players later in the game may end up landing on recipe chains which omit Screws entirely. :D

But anyway, yeah, just go ahead and grab Cast; it'll save you a bit of factory space + power in the short term, at least

[empty bobcat]

Anybody else had a bug with placing a blueprint that contains a personel elevator and a whole extra elevator appears somewhere well outside the blueprint?

[rich torrent]

My mug came in the mail today
Now I can drink coffee in and out of game

[proven tiger]

What are the best alt recipes to use for HMF

[bitter crow]

wish i knew

alright gng, should i make my turbofuel generator at blue crater now, even though my base is in rocky desert??

[zenith pecan]

I made my power in the blue crater and my primary manufacturing is in the dunes.

[proven tiger]

In what biome is that i need to do turbofuel

[bitter crow]

ill get to it then

[zenith pecan]

Whereever you see fit to be honest, the logistics is entirely your call as to how short/long the feeds are.

[proven tiger]

But in what biome is that

[native tapir]

Any

[surreal ingot]

Imagine signs took power

And couldnt be daisy chained

[mortal ginkgo]

how about you go and image belts asking rubber aka phase 3

[surreal ingot]

What?

[native tapir]

Imagine belts and pipes as placable nodes for any resource.

You can do anything anywhere.

[mortal ginkgo]

What what? I told you to imagine, not asking questions.

[whole robin]

No thank you, I will not imagine that 💖 💖

[surreal ingot]

do you need to automate circuit board for you to use?

i forgot to make some extra for me

ok

so just trains really

[distant bay]

For some reason, whenever I unlock a new hand equipment slot, it doesn’t get added (I’m playing modded, could that have something to do with it?)

[bitter crow]

im just now realising how much this gen will generate

oh my god

[ornate saffron]

catch me up. I feel like im missing a bunch of info ^_^

[bitter crow]

im building a turbofuel generator at blue crater

its gonna be making ALOT

[ornate saffron]

Ah, You just realized the downside of fuel lol

[ornate saffron]

overclocking and blueprintes are your friend

[bitter crow]

yeah im realising that

[ornate saffron]

you can get 4 fuel generators on a mk2 Blueprinter

[zenith pecan]

I'll be sort of glad when my motor factory is running and passing some spare materials on, it'll restore my motors, rotor, steel pipe & steel beam production to depots that I demolished two days back.

[bitter crow]

i should be thinking about how i will do plastic, but this is more entertaining

[bitter crow]

woah

[zenith pecan]

Could always copy my plastic production build 😁

[ornate saffron]

@bitter crow do this

[zenith pecan]

It would definitely keep you busy for a bit 🙂

[bitter crow]

whats your setup?

like how does it work

[ornate saffron]

you know of Dubai made a bunch of islands?

[bitter crow]

the oil islands at the fields/forest?

[zenith pecan]

You asked for it 😛 #design-and-architecture message , each refinery platform uses the recycle plastic/rubber setup the whole biome produces 6460 plastic & 3660 rubber.

What I'm currently getting going is eating 5250 steel ingots & 4320 wire.

[bitter crow]

..

oh my god

thats actually crazy

[zenith pecan]

Incomplete but the wire production & the steel products sections are up, its intended to produce a few motors #design-and-architecture message

At least it's using the 4800 steel ingot byproduct from my power station 🤣

[reef basin]

"best" is subjective

depends on preferences, requirements, etc.

[bitter crow]

JESUS

#design-and-architecture

wait, you have one factory making lots and lots of motors? those get shipped out to other factories right?

[stone quiver]

I never looked at ballistic drives... man that ingredient list is brutal.

[bitter crow]

oh god

i divided the amount of refineries twice, it isnt 15 required, its 30?!

[zenith pecan]

Yes, explained in part here #design-and-architecture message

[stone quiver]

Always need more refineries

[zenith pecan]

Right now I'm completing the motor factory wiring so I can tear out the temporary grid.

[stone quiver]

I dunno why I feel like using logistics is unfair, it's how the real world is... specialize and ship. Maybe next build. I just struggle to find something I need to ship outside of doing it just because

[scarlet rose]

brutal doesn't do it justice

[stable compass]

looking for people to start a new world. starting now: https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1474612999816740924

[leaden turret]

I think this is the first time I've seen someone use #1201555265942724758 + discord message linking correctly 🎊

[reef basin]

the post in lfg is enough, no need to post here

[fickle locust]

I'm regrettably concluding that I made my train system running the wrong way in the rocky desert

This is going to be a mess

[eager nova]

ok

so, i want to start a compleatly different Nuclear power plant area where i can put like 20. Problem is resources. I have a spagettii factory and i want to start compleatly over for uranium fuel cell productions, but i dont know how many recources or where the best place would be for it or how many nodes i even need but I also want them to be fully overclocked. (The manufacturers).

[fickle locust]

TBH you need to just put in the leg work to do the planning
Sites like satisfactory calculator or satisfactory modeler can help you visualize the whole production chain, you can use excel sheets to the same effect, but what you're asking is for someone else to do the entire plan for you

[stone quiver]

You can drone in what you need or supply it all locally etc. take your pick. I think once you get to like pressure conversion cubes etc. it's not always best to make it locally bc the supply chain becomes huge again

[normal orbit]

prob easiest to base it either how much uranium you have/want or how many fuel rods you wanna make in the end. then math from there

[eager nova]

ok ill check those out, didnt even know those exsisted lol, sorry

[eager nova]

yea i was thinking of using trains or drones to get everything to the prodution zones

[normal orbit]

as for location, pick a spot with a lot of water, nuclear gens are thirsty bois

[eager nova]

yeah i was going to build them there

[ornate saffron]

Thirsty but have troubles keeping it down lol

[fickle locust]

I've fixed my train lines by adding more train lines
I feel like I've unlocked a higher form of spaghetti

Let's ride along and make sure I did this right

[bitter crow]

what happens if pipes arent full? i read somewhere that its important that they are

[mortal ginkgo]

certain people claims it provides max flow rate, while recently some people showed in some tests that max flow rate is indeed possible without them being full.

having bunch of not-full pipes also can cause heavy sloshing, causing low flow rates, once again.

best thing to do is, make sure all pipes are filled up, and then start using them all

[bitter crow]

cuz 33% of my pipes will be empty if i build like i want to build

[spiral crane]

every time I upgrade my Belts, I seem to find the need to rebuild my factory...

[bitter crow]

wait nevermind its worse than i thought..

111 refineries...

[mortal ginkgo]

oh dear LORD

just use pipes

[bitter crow]

i hate this game

[normal orbit]

welcome to refinery fatigue :)

[bitter crow]

111 refineries

this is insanity

[normal orbit]

not that many tbh :p

think my plubber plant is close to 300

[bitter crow]

kill me

[ornate saffron]

refinery fatigue is real.

[mortal ginkgo]

🔪

[bitter crow]

and i cant use the space below my factory cuz that is for plubber

oh my gooooooood

[ornate saffron]

go up

[mortal ginkgo]

go up

great mind thinks alike 🙂‍↕️

[bitter crow]

hmm yeah

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message refineries :3

150-ish uptop and another 120-ish below :p

[ornate saffron]

thats how i deal with refinery fatigue

[bitter crow]

i also have alot of space going out toward the deepest part of the crater, so might build a 2x2

EURUREKA!

[ornate saffron]

I suggest to take a second and think about later. Will you need that space for fluids later? have you used all the oil near you. will you want to. If the answer is yes. remember to leave space for water extractors and remember the less you have to move a fluid the bettter

[bitter crow]

oh my god i forgot an oil node

nope i am not doing allat

600x4 is a nice number

600x4.5 is not

[ornate saffron]

I a'm a sucker for not planning out for later for current ease lol

I always think "this is a future Beefalo problem. That guy is a jerk "

[bitter crow]

might use that node as a backup generator

if the fuse blows i have that one ro reboot

[bitter crow]

lmao

[ornate saffron]

I heavily suggest power priority switches which are unlocked in the mam.

!wikiserch power_priority_switch

[bitter crow]

#design-and-architecture

[sterile blade]

But the hoverpack bug...!

[ornate saffron]

i know its a thing. But i have abused these switches and have never come across it

[normal orbit]

the hoverpack bug is only a issue if you have power problems, what happens is it connects two points and bridges power which can bypass a switch thats off, and if your power grid can't handle that, boom

hoverpack is basically a wireless powernub :p

[crude canyon]

I'm really surprised how people can be like "hey guys, should I go load balance or manifold"
but not "hey guys, what kind of layout do you like to use in a factory"

[shell oracle]

what do you actually use power switches for? i havnt bovered using them yet

[crude canyon]

disable expensive factories when you're making power

[normal orbit]

priority switches is like a saftey, where it turns off sections based on priority set so you dont get cascade failure and your power production shuts down too

[ornate saffron]

that explains why i have never incountered the issue.

I have a main line that spans the world. Trains power pylons and geothermal direct connect to it. Everything else goes from the main line to a power priority switch

[crude canyon]

cool thing about priority power switches is that you can trigger them remotely

[shell oracle]

thats probably a good idea since ive been deleting power lines whilst sorting out power problems

[crude canyon]

it's not very useful anymore though

[ornate saffron]

ya ace and I moved the covo to #design-and-architecture and w aewre just talking about that

[ornate saffron]

I can see uses. I just dont use them much.

I did a run were i only did Bio and Geothermal until i reached nitro rocket fuel. I used the power swittches to manage my power. Focusing it where i needed it

[crude canyon]

I see that they can be useful for when you want things to go one way over the other. Like disable rcus going into pressure cubes to go into turbo motors

Thing is, there's very little scenario where that behaviour is useful

it's more that satisfactory doesn't really value that

[ornate saffron]

for sure. But i like that ppl havve the option. ITs a sandbox game. I play it like Minecraft. I have self goals and nothing else

[shell oracle]

would it be a good idea to use them to reroute parts froma personal factory to build space elavator parts on occasion

[ornate saffron]

its sounds nice but iqts like that simpsons meme where homer has all the excess skin stied behind his back

[crude canyon]

thing is, aren't most houses built like that too? You don't get to see the wire because it's buried in concrete

no

[ornate saffron]

I have sheilded conduit running along my wall lol

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[crude canyon]

nah I'm comparing how in a lot of real world stuff you don't get to see the spaghetti because it's hidden

[ornate saffron]

me too. Building codes is different all around the world Illinois doesnt allow wiring to run through the walls i believe.

I learned that from Technology connections on youtube

#satisfactory-memes message

in england every outlet needs a on off swich

and a fuse

[crude canyon]

I personally feel like a perfect factory is the one you can show off to someone else and they will immediately understand it

[ornate saffron]

that fair. and the goal., I just hate myself part way through. I do heavy planing for machines placement. but i always fail with belts and pipes. its somnething i am woprking on

[crude canyon]

here's what I mean
#math-and-meta message

[crude canyon]

maybe you should start thinking on bent and pipe placement first

[ornate saffron]

i havent always failed. I have had successes to. Im working on it

#screenshots message

#design-and-architecture message

#design-and-architecture message

i think my biggest issue is hyper focus. I focus on one aspect asnd completely ignore the rest. ADHD issues lol

[crude canyon]

Jesus I cannot do those kinds of things

[elfin idol]

i have a question

im so confused

[ornate saffron]

i ahave opinions ^_^

[crude canyon]

I have too little patience
My way of people is just "how can I do this asap and in a way I don't have to revisit again"

[ornate saffron]

you mean the basket weave belts. Output to trains overflow into Sinks?

[spare prism]

[ornate saffron]

thats all iron ingots lol

[elfin idol]

ok so i have three smelters, 2 are set up to output 20 iron plates per/min, and one is set to output 40 per min (ik its pointless i just wanna be space efficient rn lol) all 3 have a sufficient supply of ore, so that isnt the issue with what im about to explain. but basically i have a manifold setup to collect all the outputs, at the moment it is completely made from mk2 conveyor belts (which isnt even necessary for all of it) but the overclocked furnace gets backed up and cycles????

[crude canyon]

I'd transport the ore. Most recipes for iron can make more iron ingots than iron ore, so if you want to save throughput, you'd transport ore and then make it into ingots

[elfin idol]

it seems to be an issue with the mergers not merging fast enough internally

but maybe someone knows more than i do

i should probably try rebuilding the mergers it will probably fix it lol

i imagine their cache is full or something and its being weird

[ornate saffron]

double check all belts.

A easy fis is ttake the output for the 40/min machine and place a merger in front. Then send the other two machines into the same merger.

Or just dont merge.

send the lines to the manifold one line 1 ends add a merger and merge in line 2. When line two ends place a merger and feerd in line 3. this will reduce wind up time too

[crude canyon]

are you using all of the iron ingots?

[elfin idol]

well i should be but for some reason its not

wait

sorry i explained completely wrong

im talking about a setup of constructors making iron plates lol, and they all have more than sufficient ingot supply

but i dont think that changes the issue much

[zealous storm]

How high a water tower should be?

[elfin idol]

i still dont get why it doesnt work ;/

like my setup is completely logically sound

ill post a pic in #screenshots, the furthest constructor is the overclocked at 200% one

[crude canyon]

what's the % on the last constructor?

[elfin idol]

the last is standard

[ornate saffron]

i really cant help im terrible at troubleshooting with out being able to play

[crude canyon]

redo the mergers and the belts

[elfin idol]

yeah i will

it seems the last merger is bugged or something

as thats where the backup starts

[simple pebble]

Basically, above anything you expect it to feed into

So it helps to have an idea how tall your nearby factory will be

[elfin idol]

er so i found the issue o-o

ill post again in #screenshots LMAO

[crude canyon]

there was a tiny mk1 belt somewhere

[elfin idol]

mayhaps

[simple pebble]

Classic

[elfin idol]

it was hidden in the last merger cuz i placed the merger directly on a mk1 belt before upgrading it

[simple pebble]

Yeah I've done this before. There's always one belt half an inch long that you missed

[normal orbit]

yep, you do it once, then you start placing splitters/mergers first, then belts :p

[simple pebble]

Today's mistake for me was installing satisfactory plus though lmao

[ornate saffron]

are you gettting..... "screwed"

[lament ridge]

anyone use BAM? having trouble with the MK8 refineries

[simple pebble]

More like getting the rod

[elfin idol]

ive been tempted, even though im basically new, i kinda want to just suffer

[simple pebble]

Game is hand crafting hell for the first 20 hours

[zealous storm]

like one meter higher is okay?

[elfin idol]

first playthrough satisfactory+ like thats something

[simple pebble]

Yes

[normal orbit]

20 hours? O.o onboarding is like an hour, after that you can automate everything aside power

[elfin idol]

plus it annoys me sometimes that producing things is so simple when in reality it would be more complex, and plus makes that ick of mine a bit less prominent

[normal orbit]

oh satisfactory plus, ye ye ye gotcha

[ornate saffron]

Id check tyhe Modding discord piunned in #welcome

[crude canyon]

oh yeah I've been playing it. i kinda quit on mk4 belts because they're a pain

[simple pebble]

Ooh will have to check that

[elfin idol]

what are peoples advice on like rod + screw production like it just seems like such a massive area u gotta make for seemingly a very simple resource

early game this is

im tempted to underclock like 12 furnaces to 10 per min

just to make like simpler in a sense

[south sinew]

get cast screw alt recipe

[elfin idol]

but idk where crash sites are and i dont wanna google them cuz it feels cheaty ;/

[normal orbit]

dont make em at all :p

[elfin idol]

and this area seems to have fk all

[ornate saffron]

the biggest issues ppl have with screws isa through put.

I make screws then feed thre amount i need directly into the machine that uses it.

CAst screws reduces your space needs but you cannot take advantage of the good alternative rod recipes

[south sinew]

the start locations generally have a few drives not far away

[crude canyon]

do you want to play with me?
There's no multiplayer but we can be playing at the same time

[south sinew]

but also you shouldn't really need a massive area in the early game, it doesn't take much to get past this stage

I think I used like 3-4 constructors for screws or something

[elfin idol]

can do! how does it work then? is it like just a linked local chat lol?

but different worlds

[crude canyon]

yeah last time I was vc'ing with someone while we were both on our own worlds

[elfin idol]

also as a warning i accidentally deleted my saves so im literally doing phase 1 again 💀

[crude canyon]

it's ok, I was prepared to go phase 1 too

[elfin idol]

thats what i get for messing about with files too much

[crude canyon]

I dm'd you

[simple pebble]

God, I have no idea what to expect that far in.

Hardest thing about this mod so far is deciding when to commit to anything on a large scale, since every new tech upgrades previous tech

Unmodded, it's easy to pick a moment. But every element of automation pays off in this, even even it's not efficient

[crude canyon]

the hardest thing about it is when it gives you 5 different ways to make something and in the end it's a much bigger chain for like 60 parts per min

[crude canyon]

btw, I have a modeler for satis+ if you want

@simple pebblei dm'd you

[simple pebble]

Omg I love you

Thanks, this will save me extreme pain with spreadsheets

[ornate saffron]

i like that pain. I Revel in it. Born of it. Molded by it

[candid marsh]

does anyone knows why I can't join a game? I get this two messages
not_found (EOS_NotFound)
Could not resolve online session.

I have already deleted all the cache, opened ports tried different proton versions (on linux) and also tried on windows but nothing seems to be working

[ornate saffron]

have you searched #1038092680493801533 for the error code?

[bitter crow]

the fuel gen is gonna make about 44gw a minute

3/4 done with all the turbofuel refineries

i havent even begun on the compacted coal

sigh

[ornate saffron]

on tyhe up side youll not have to worry aboput power for a while

[bitter crow]

44gw

i havent even begun on my plastic infrastructure

sigh

[ornate saffron]

my curretn packaged fuel factory makes 10gw from 300 oil

[bitter crow]

yikes

[ornate saffron]

its 300 oil segmented into 3 sections. IF i need more power before nuclear ill convert one segment at a time to turbo as needed

[bitter crow]

very interesting

[candid marsh]

Yeah but it's the same I've already tried :/

[ornate saffron]

rough. Ive not incountered the error

your next step would be making a post in #1038092680493801533 Make it as detailed as possible so the tech savy can help

[bitter crow]

im missing 100 sulfur

[ornate saffron]

hopefully your pain can help other later too

[bitter crow]

scheisse

[ornate saffron]

for simplicity I dm;d you

[candid marsh]

I'll try reinstalling... the things they suggest there are the same that they suggest in the forum and also AI. If this doesn't work, then I'll cry under my desk

[ornate saffron]

Steam?

[last warren]

is there like an calculator to say for example: if i use the miner mk1 for iron on a 60 per minute node and i use mk1 belts to a smelter and then to an assembler/crafters for iron plates and for screws to make Reinforced Iron Plates. and then the calculator says that i need to underclock or overclock some assemblers/crafters?

[candid marsh]

yes

well... it didn't work

[torn lynx]

hey, how do the stop lights work for trains? i tried using them and i dont really get it

[normal orbit]

they arent stop lights, they divide the track into blocks which only one train can occupy

[frosty hedge]

Hi everyone, ive a doubt about the game. Im new in the game and im playing without almost any kind of guide, tip etc, just because i wanna enjoy to play and not tryharding or copy what ppl did on his world( for now ). I reached the phase 3 and now ive some questions. What is the best thing to do? crafting just the item that i need for the quest for unlocking the other phases or just make a farm for each item?

[torn lynx]

at a time or one train entirely

[normal orbit]

at a time

[sleek creek]

Isn't there a mod that can control day/night cycles?

[normal orbit]

#design-and-architecture message you need more than one signal to create a block

[ornate saffron]

they check the block the train is about to enter. If there is a train there it will tell the oncoming train that it cannot proceed.

Signals are all or nothing. You have to use them across the entire track system or nott at all

[torn lynx]

#design-and-architecture message liek this?

ok im lookign at youtube videos and i really dont get this

[empty spoke]

should i really make a exception for my megafactory to build the power plant out of it? (oil extractor) or is there any efficient way of moving fluids rly far

can train store fluids?

[normal orbit]

yes, but capacity is kinda limited

[torn lynx]

oh ive tried everyhtignb thewse thigns dont work

[ornate saffron]

I full heartedly beleive you should try to never move fluids distance. Move parts.

If you are set to make all in one place facility make the exception for power. then ship the solid byproducts

if you MUST move fluids there is less headaches by packaging it first

@empty spoke Gaming with doc on youtube loves his all in one facilities you can learn much by watching him while playing

[reef basin]

You can make all the exceptions and not build a megabase 😛

[sleek creek]

What do you all use for lighting on logistic floors?

[ornate saffron]

flashlight, I want to hide my shame.

[ornate saffron]

I kid. I make tall logitic floors with windows to let light in.

I dont want to be cramped

[sleek creek]

I wish default lighting options were better. Not a fan of the lumen hack.

[ornate saffron]

i really like global illumination. but i wish the draw distance was adjustable

[sleek creek]

I have been building 28x38 platforms up and down the coast manually for my consolidated base. Got tired of it and made the whole thing in a mega blueprint machine.

[ornate saffron]

the ppl in #1201555265942724758

[elfin saffron]

guys how do i make it so i can just hold the build button and it makes multiple at one (for like foundations)

[elfin smelt]

R to zoop mode

[elfin saffron]

oh

[elfin smelt]

or vertical mode

[elfin saffron]

thank you

i was wondering what zoop mode did

thanks :D

[ornate saffron]

np its the Specific question we like

[fresh river]

what do i do with plastifc?

[pallid ridge]

Will the 1.2 update be pushed straight to production or into experimental first?

[pallid ridge]

Computer, packager, etc

[fresh river]

alr

thanks

[ornate saffron]

for personal use mk2 pipes

[fresh river]

alr

[pallid ridge]

Question about liquid, does a refinery give us another headlift like in an extractor? Or does the headlift become zero when it output from the refinery?

[ornate saffron]

all production machines output headlift aty 10m

[rugged rune]

who is fishlabs?

[ornate saffron]

@celest dirge

or

@fathom solstice

[pallid ridge]

Alr, nice to know. Planning to have underground piping system so it can be a bit cleaner

[rugged rune]

are they just partners for console release? my friend who i convinced to join us pioneers was curious on their role

[ornate saffron]

ive never heard of them

im a pc masterrace guy lol

[unkempt blade]

I'm holding out for the switch release

this game will be way better waving the joycons around

[leaden turret]

https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/console-release/fishlabs/

[unkempt blade]

well sure but who's making the switch version?

[leaden turret]

never happening

[unkempt blade]

But it's on my vision board! I'm going to wish it into being

[leaden turret]

cursed monkey's paw says you get a switch 2 release of satisfactory, but nintendo remotely bricks your console

[unkempt blade]

no no I'm vision boarding a switch1 release, I don't have a 2

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> is more likely to confirm whether the lizard doggo has a butthole or cloaca than there being a switch release

[bitter crow]

Folks, another day, another really unique question:
At what point should i start having factories producing things whom transports its output to other factories? instead of building the part under one roof

[unkempt blade]

I just upgraded from a wii u like 6mo ago. I can't upgrade again until I beat all the good switch 1 games and switchisfactory

[leaden turret]

the point at which building it under a roof makes you wanna bang your head against a wall

[bitter crow]

i guess ill do that when i get to computers then

make a shit ton

[gloomy tusk]

around like phase 3 space ele parts in my opinion

especially the weird cube things

[bitter crow]

ACU?

[gloomy tusk]

probably

[gloomy tusk]

i made a factory cart trampoline park

[bitter crow]

i think ill have one fac for computers, one for mf and hmf and one for everything else

[gloomy tusk]

mf are easy what

[bitter crow]

yeah just mass production

im talking like 24^99

[unkempt blade]

do you feel true freedom when you're bouncing in your adorable vehicle?

[gloomy tusk]

only when i press the button and hear that majestic sound

[fickle oriole]

hi folks, first time trying to use carts, and I can't seem to get them to 'place' correctly - they're always showing up halfway-"submerged" so that the floor bisects the cart, and then it's not driveable - only option is to pick it up. What am I missing? thanks!

[twin bay]

Did they fix the crossplay issues between consoles that were around at launch?

[fickle oriole]

#screenshots message

nvm, figured it out - you have to equip it, not just drop it.

[west jackal]

lol it looks funny dropped on the ground

[bitter crow]

lamo

[zenith pecan]

Yay, stators and rotors are being produced again 🥳 , the easy part is sending the bits upstairs for my 150 motors 😄

[ornate saffron]

woot woot

[zenith pecan]

I have the partial factory running atm in order to fully prime the inputs.

[limber moss]

Man, I love Enter missclicks. One moment

[west jackal]

how do i do 1:5 splitter? i have 50 plastic and i need 10 going on one line and 40 on the other

nvm, i can just do smart splitter since the 10 is going to storage

[wispy osprey]

Manifold

[west jackal]

cant manifold beacuse the 10 is going somewhere that has a sink

[bitter crow]

44 gw 🥹

[west jackal]

also, load balancer/splitters are better for low production items anyways

i think the way to do it is with a priority merger that prioritizes the back flow and then 6 splitters with one of the final outputs feeding the merger

[wispy osprey]

Keep going at it in-game yea

I burned out of satisfactory sadly

[normal orbit]

easiest way is splitting it into 6 (3 then each of them 2) and take 6th belt and merge back before the split

[terse stirrup]

Ok so SF is on ps5 now?

I heard about it 6 years ago when josh played it. My pc couldt even run it

[west jackal]

thats whaat i was saying, i appreciate it!, i figured out how to do it with smart splitter

[limber moss]

I want to run 3 SAM fluctuator manufacturers at 90% each so I fully utilise exactly half of my wire production (270/min -> 135/min). While getting extra SAM relatively nearby won't be an issue with trains, I'd need to overclock/underclock the coal (pure) and iron (normal) Mk2 miners to mine exactly 121.5 of each resource so I get exactly 81/min of steel pipes. How screwed am I and most importantly - what should I do in your opinion, fellow pioneers? What to do with such silly numbers?

[sudden creek]

#screenshots message gng what we thinking

[orchid saddle]

when is 1.2 coming out

[ornate saffron]

we get teh expermental date tuesday

[terse stirrup]

Is it coming to pc?

[normal orbit]

comes to experimental in march sometime

[terse stirrup]

Ps5*

Oh. Ok. Thats not on ps5? Im not pc anymore (i was before)

[normal orbit]

satisfactory is available on ps5

[spare prism]

I'm getting mad this stupid animal keeps getting stuck on my pipes and I can't build on them bc he's in the way

[normal orbit]

give it a love tap with a nuke nobelisk

[sudden creek]

just bomb it

[spare prism]

Idk how but I jut killed it

I didn't know if took many hits

[ebon hollow]

been watching ppl on youtube play and now i finally bought the game

[sudden creek]

problem solved

[spare prism]

Yes I'm good now lol

[ebon hollow]

jinkies

[hybrid nymph]

I finished my train route

[pallid ridge]

I wanna ask about the train. Can a station unload multiple time from a single train? For example, when a station is just taking a load from a train, then another comes while it is partially full, will it take another load if the train wait?

The train will be set to go after a process happens but it has to wait for 2 minutes. By the time 1 minute passed, i believe the station will be empty. And during this time, will this station take another load from this train?

[normal orbit]

dont think so. i guess you could make a loop and set same station twice in timetable

[pallid ridge]

So it won't accept multiple input from the same train?

[normal orbit]

not typically. the freight terminal has more space than the train car. so if you need to unload twice you have an issue emptying out the terminal

you can set the timetable to have train wait until fully unloaded

[pallid ridge]

But the thing is, i set 3 terminal where I'm still using 2. If i set to fully unload, it'll never move out since i never use the third terminal

[normal orbit]

pretty sure it'll just ignore it

[pallid ridge]

No, it stuck since the third terminal no longer taking input from the train

That's why I'm thinking of using the move out once a process is done, but wait for 3 minutes

[normal orbit]

sounds more like you need to place an industrial storage on the terminal outputs and connect both belts so it can empty out

[pallid ridge]

Guess I'll have to make a buffer then sink excess material

[spare prism]

if i have to hand craft 500 modular frames how long am i looking time wise

[normal orbit]

have to?

[spare prism]

Yes don't question it 🤣

[normal orbit]

couldnt tell you, never handcrafted anything past the onboarding

[spare prism]

Well I need to make 100 heavy modular frame by hand lol but to get too 100 I need 500 first

[normal orbit]

i think you're missing the point of the game :p

[spare prism]

Woah woah woah

[spare prism]

My friend is setting up an iron factory but he had to leave half way thought it and idk how to finish it

[normal orbit]

you take some reinforced plates, some iron rods, shove em into an assember, and out comes a baby modular frame

[spare prism]

Yea I have resources but is it faster

[cold sierra]

I'm looking for a map of the game, but from the first day (March 19th 2019).

[normal orbit]

probably not

wiki says 15 hammers for manual crafting, not a clue what that means timewise

[spare prism]

It's 60 second to make 2

[normal orbit]

so about 4 hours and change

enjoy :)

[spare prism]

[halcyon plaza]

Hey gang. If I need to go to #1038092680493801533 lemme know, but what's the splitter/merger solution for getting 500 screws on 2 mk3 belts into 5 assemblers?

250 screws per mk3 belt

[normal orbit]

smart splitter manifold with a merger between assembler 2 and 3

[halcyon plaza]

Mhmmmm. If I don't have smart splitters?

[normal orbit]

then have fun

[halcyon plaza]

🍻

[cold sierra]

A hammer seems to be about 1/3 of a second.

[spare prism]

Can you get them?

How far are you into game

[west jackal]

is there a way to do 5 degree rotations of objects instead of 15

[normal orbit]

hold ctrl usually makes smaller increments

[spare prism]

So it's faster to hammer then auto make some

[west jackal]

idk the way i built ended with 15 degree rotations

[halcyon plaza]

Prolly worth checking huh

[spare prism]

They might be in the mam research area

You research anything yet

[cold sierra]

Maybe 0.25 s.
Depends if you count the time to start the crafting (the green lights that load before the first item crafted.)

[normal orbit]

you could try feed both belts into assember 1+2 and 4+5 then have them meet in a merger feeding into 3

[spare prism]

Well I watched the time on the assembly and it was slow compared to hammer

[halcyon plaza]

@cold sierra @spare prism No AI limiters. I'm only at the end of tier 4, and haven't found any around drop pods :/

[cold sierra]

Basically you can make 20 cables in 5 seconds.

[normal orbit]

go smack a caterium node some and progress the mam tree

[halcyon plaza]

Ahhhh this is brilliant

[spare prism]

It’s 2 per 60 seconds and I think it’s 2 every hammer second15 seconds . So that’s 8 frames in 60 seconds hand crafting

[halcyon plaza]

I progressed to smart splitters in the MAM, just don't have AI Limiters to unlock them.

[spare prism]

Make a factory

[normal orbit]

you can make em by mixing some quickwire and copper sheets in an assembler

[reef basin]

Not in the long run

[halcyon plaza]

wait reallyyyy

[cold sierra]

Yeah AI limiters are easy to make

[spare prism]

I need short term rn

[halcyon plaza]

Even without knowing the recipe? Again I'm only in Tier 4

[reef basin]

Still recommend to automate instead of manually crafting

[normal orbit]

if you have the smart splitter node in the mam tree, you have the recipe to make the ai limiters

[spare prism]

I just did the math my way is quicker

I don’t have a factory up rn

It was torn down to rebuild

[reef basin]

Again, you don't really care about that in this game

[reef basin]

Yeah don't do that either 😛 keep old and build new

[unkempt blade]

But just think about how much faster it was!

[spare prism]

We had to tear down bc all stuff was using mk1 stuff

[reef basin]

That is not a reason to tear down

[unkempt blade]

Totally makes sense. What mk is it now?

[spare prism]

Bruh I’m not gunna sit here and explain it to you bc it’s gunna take to long

[halcyon plaza]

I have AI Limiters in the recipe list, but the item entry has no recipe 🤣 If I stick copper sheets and quickwire in an assembler will it still work?

[reef basin]

Just split the excess from miner if you really want to use it

[unkempt blade]

It might be faster if you don't automate the explanation

[spare prism]

That’s the issue we had no room to split

[spare prism]

Omg

[normal orbit]

huh? if you have it in the list, its available in the assembler. did you collapse the recipe lists? click the + sign to expand em

[spare prism]

I built the first factory but it was based on my logic my friend now build the factory and it’s much better then before

[reef basin]

Getting new nodes is also faster than rebuilding

[spare prism]

Nah he built it pretty fast but also he made it better

If you seen what it was before you would say scrap

[oak nymph]

It takes a lot of time building 540generator

[spare prism]

But what he built we are gunna keep now

[halcyon plaza]

Can't attach a picture apparently... But in Recipes>Parts>AI Limiter, it has 2 recipe entries that just say "???" with a lock symbol on the end.

[normal orbit]

should be 3 in total there

the 2 ??? is alt recipes from harddrives

the standard one takes copper sheets + quickwire

[spare prism]

My brain hurts

[normal orbit]

oh no wait, theres only two

[halcyon plaza]

It's just not unlocked. Probably only showing in my recipe list at all because the MAM tree mentions the item. Otherwise I wouldn't even known it existed.

[normal orbit]

was thinking on something else

go to the mam, and find the ai limiter node, unlock it with quickwire and copper sheets

then make ai limiters and unlock the smart splitter node

[halcyon plaza]

How bout thaaaaaat

[normal orbit]

could've sworn you dont see the smart splitter node in mam tree without doing the ai limiter research node first

[elder skiff]

Is it worth going for the awesome sink stuff early on?

[halcyon plaza]

Have been completely overlooking manual crafting on anything more advanced than ammo from the beginning. Must have short-circuited my brain when it said 'you can't manual craft' about space elevator parts.

[normal orbit]

well you can't manually craft space elevator parts

[halcyon plaza]

Now with unlocking them... what is this about? 😄

[normal orbit]

set the input to the assembler to any and the side input to overflow. then repeat, can just tee in the other belt into that manifold

[halcyon plaza]

Assembler<SmSp>Assembler

Where left is "Any" and right is "Overflow"?

[halcyon plaza]

And where would the 2 mk3 belts with 250 screws each enter...

[normal orbit]

well you can place two smart splitters, set the input to two assemblers to any, then the third to overflow and have em meet in a merger

more or less same as the other one, just a little more reliable

[mystic crag]

My factory gane crashed😔

[spare prism]

Time crystals?

[west jackal]

When did they add mk6 belts? What are they made of? They look like sam or something

[wary falcon]

im struggling to deal with trains, i have one freight car to hopefully have a throughput of 1200 but for some reason its not e ven getting 600. its not that far of a train. is there a better way to do this other than just eyeballing it.

(note i have 5 freight cars for 5x1200 output.)

[oak nymph]

Time crystal and ficsit trigon

[normal orbit]

in 1.0, they're like magnetic fields or somesuch

[oak nymph]

Add more train

[wary falcon]

sooo am i gonna need like 10 freight cars?? that is such a pain

can a i even do that on a single train?

[oak nymph]

No, train not freight car

[wary falcon]

wdym....

[oak nymph]

Your route is too long

So just put a second train with the same amount of freight car as your first train. Put block signal and boom

I have 5 train on one track

[normal orbit]

if one train is 600, then two train is 1200, add more train

beauty of trains. can just add more

ideally start second train when first train is at the other station so they evenly apart

[elfin idol]

What’s the server down time that just popped up??

[oak nymph]

It was a pain setting up my five train with block signal I end up just putting a heck lot of signal

[elfin idol]

is it like patch or something

[wary falcon]

oh on the same track.. im not really sure how to do that. my setup is this would it be possible to have 2 trains?

#screenshots message

[normal orbit]

sure, just signal it so they dont collide

[elfin idol]

ADA keeps telling me I’m saving the day but I don’t trust her

[oak nymph]

Put block signal 2 train can't be in the same "zone" and the zone is define by Block signal

[elfin idol]

something fishy about ADA

[wary falcon]

what direction do block signals face?

[normal orbit]

where the arrow points

[oak nymph]

There is a arrow on the track

[ornate saffron]

the side with two circles face the oncoming train

[grim carbon]

i just found out you can't build a blueprint on the designer using water extractors, cos you can't put one on it

[normal orbit]

you used to, but no more, they fixed it

[grim carbon]

so i see

[normal orbit]

extracting water from the air was a little too strong :p

[hybrid nymph]

That's why I remove that mod

It was too busted

[wary falcon]

how would a block signal work if its placed at a crossroads? would it just take the path the doesnt have a train?

[hybrid nymph]

Even though I'm The Professor, I couldn't tell you

[normal orbit]

it will wait until the intersection is clear

[hybrid nymph]

Block and pass signals are the only thing that I don't know how it works in the game

I just always make separate tracks for all of my trains And I just stick to one train per track

[wary falcon]

ok ty lets see if ican get it to work

[normal orbit]

they kinda straightforward, block signals create blocks on tracks only one train can occupy. path signals reserve a path thru a block which can allow for multiple trains inside a block as long their path dont cross

[hybrid nymph]

Hmm, sounds confusing, still don't get it, but alright

Oh so path signals make it so only one train can occupy the path between the two signals?

If that's the case that actually makes sense

[normal orbit]

yea

[wary falcon]

im reading the description for block and path signals. if im bi dirrectional train should i use a path signal instead?

[normal orbit]

no

[wary falcon]

oh ok

[normal orbit]

your drawing imply they only go one direction tho

like a loop

if you want the trains to go back and forth... add another track

[wary falcon]

no they are going back and forth with intersections to guide them between the 1,2,3 spots

[normal orbit]

then you're gonna have issue with more than one train

[spare prism]

I ran out of iron rods 💀

[hollow hemlock]

if you're sneaky enough you can get multiple trains going along a single track, but you'll want only 1 to enter the shared rail at any point, unless you like collisions

[wary falcon]

whats the best way to solve it?

[hybrid nymph]

Trains work like electricity. The train will always take the shortest path to its destination

[normal orbit]

another track and have them go in opposite directions

[hybrid nymph]

I would recommend a bi-directional train, put 4 cars on it, 1 locomotive on each end

Each locomotive can pull up to four cars without experiencing a speed loss penalty

And since the locomotive doesn't count as a car, you can put one locomotive on each end so that the train can go bi-directional

[silk blade]

Hello, can someone help me with this error message? I can't join friend :User backend sessions are not possible.

[hybrid nymph]

I can help

It's just a technical glitch

[wary falcon]

so.. i swapped it abit to look like this #screenshots message

would i then be able to use two trains? one goes to the top left stop, the other the top right

[hybrid nymph]

Try rebooting your game. Whenever I have that problem I just have both myself and my friend reboot our games and then it always fixes it

[hybrid nymph]

Yes that should be correct

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message this is how you could do it and allow for near unlimited trains

[wary falcon]

uhh that looks a lil over complex

for what im doing atleast

[silk blade]

It still doesn't work after restarting.

[hybrid nymph]

Wow I should be an admin on this server lol 😆

[hybrid nymph]

🤔

Hmm interesting 🤔

It might be something to do with the firewall

[normal orbit]

yes, but it owuld work even better if you have two stations at the delivery rather than one, then trains wont have to wait for each other to unload

[oak nymph]

I've done it plus 285GW

[hybrid nymph]

Nice 🙂

[spare prism]

Heavy encased frame or 6 inventory slots?

[hybrid nymph]

If I had enough room at oil I can set up that many generators. I have two normal oil sources that I'm not using. And I have a mod that allows you to upgrade this base clock speed of buildings

[normal orbit]

heavy encased, down with screws

[spare prism]

It's concrete now

[hybrid nymph]

Try getting the alternate recipe called "iron screws" which allows you to make screws directly from iron ingots

Very useful recipe

[wary falcon]

true but that takes a lotta space in a place with little space

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah that's true, trains do take up a lot of space.

The station itself is 5 foundations wide

And you need a relatively flat surface to place it on

I'm using a mini mod pack I created, with only 15 mods

More inventory slots, vanilla upgrades, better power storage, expand dimensional depots, awesome artifacts, glass fluid tanks, awesome sink points times 100, fuel chainsaw, more elevator buttons, and void spheres

And a few others. Just very basic small mods that still keep the vanilla feel of the game. The biggest mod that I have is the vanilla upgrades mod. Which allows you to upgrade the bass clock speed of machines

[torn lynx]

Anyone had advice on redesigning whole bases?

[hybrid nymph]

It adds back in a feature of very old satisfactory where in tier 8 you used to be able to unlock Mark 2 versions of the basic machines that had about 40% higher base clock speed than the base machine

For example the Mark 2 constructor, the Mark 2 manufacturer, and the mark 2 assembler

[spare prism]

Diluted packaged fuel or electrode circuit board

[hybrid nymph]

For redesigning your whole base? Take a picture of your factory before you rip everything down, then figure out a design you want to go with

Electrode circuit board

If you don't like the results, you can save your game right now and save scum it so you can re-roll a different stat

Upgrading the vanilla machines is very balanced, as it takes power slugs and space elevator parts

By upgrading the base clock speed of vanilla machines You can make a Mark 2 miner extract more from an impure node

[normal orbit]

you can also not pick a recipe and those two will be removed from the pool so higher chance to get ones you want

[obtuse prairie]

After 5 years of gameplay and over 1000 combined hours across multiple saves, @sharp seal and I have just finally beaten the game for the first time!
GG Coffee Stain, incredible work

[hybrid nymph]

Congratulations! I'm happy for you

I technically beat the game back in early access, as I did complete all the milestones in Tier 8 when there was only that many tiers. Does that count?

[obtuse prairie]

I guess? We got to the point where we were going to try to complete those milestones, but they ended up being way too daunting

[pearl owl]

should i do trucks or nuclear power first (trains are out of the picture rn)

[feral jay]

Trains 😛

[hybrid nymph]

Nuclear reactor

[pearl owl]

alr

[hybrid nymph]

But in all seriousness trains are super important

Trains are the most superior form of transportation in the game

[normal orbit]

kinda need trains to do nuclear power tbh

[hybrid nymph]

They are the fastest land vehicle and they have the highest carrying capacity

[feral jay]

Nuclear isn't that hard if you just store the waste, it's really the waste processing that makes it tough

[hybrid nymph]

You have to automate the waste reprocessing And you can either awesome sync the plutonium fuel rods or you can burn them in a nuclear reactor

[pearl owl]

ik trains are important but with 4800 megawatts of coal and max consumption of 7k (its a server so we're using like 2k of it) trains would be a bit hard

[feral jay]

(At least, uranium; plutonium and ficsonium are another matter)

[hybrid nymph]

If you awesome sync them it makes it so you have a waste-free factory

[pearl owl]

alr

[hybrid nymph]

Also if you do burn them, plutonium fuel rods last for twice as long as uranium fuel rods do and they produce 1/10 of the waste

[normal orbit]

sounds like you should do fuel power first then tbh

[feral jay]

Oh, shit, do fuel generators before you worry about nukes

[pearl owl]

alright ill figure that out

ty for the info guys :)

[feral jay]

If you're still running off coal it's probably too early to even generate the power required to start with nuclear

[pearl owl]

yea we've just been adding coal generators whenever we need them ill work on fuel power

ty guys

[hybrid nymph]

Fuel power is fine

A fully overclocked fuel generator generates 625 megawatts

[placid lake]

Is this the right spot to ask if +6 inventory slots is good pickup from hardrives or not?

[pearl owl]

any good places to start the fuel generators

[hybrid nymph]

It consumes 40^3m of fuel or 18.75^3m of turbofuel

Yes, at the oil source near the beach. To the northwest of the map

There are two pure oil notes there and two normal oil nodes

[inland fulcrum]

What's the best weapon in the game?

[normal orbit]

tbf, nuclear fuel rods is just two steps of manufacturers, but you need to consolidate a lot of materials to get them made, silica, sulfur, quickwire, electromagnetic control rods, crystal oscillators and rotors.

[feral jay]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=0OOVdL6m9Q7PFmqxGoLt you'd need 1.7 gigawatts to produce the fuel for just five nuclear reactors with default recipes, you're just not generating enough power yet to embark on nuclear power IMO

[hybrid nymph]

The rifle with turbo ammo

[shell oracle]

its not great since dimentional storadge is a thing

[pearl owl]

1.7 GIGA WATTS

DAMN

[hollow hemlock]

nukes

[hybrid nymph]

Even though the turbo ammo deals less damage then the standard ammunition, it's rapid fire though You can empty an entire clip of turbo rifle ammo in about 4 seconds

[normal orbit]

its just 1700MW :p

[hybrid nymph]

One clip of turbo rifle ammo can kill a nuclear hog

[hollow hemlock]

but it doesnt have a blinding flashy explosion

and style points count for alot

[hybrid nymph]

The only hard thing about getting it is that you need smokeless powder, which is a byproduct of refining oil

[shell oracle]

why not just use homing ammo

they have maximum style points

[feral jay]

The best weapon is the rifle IMO, but the best ammunition is very much a matter of a match with your personal style, skill, and playstyle. I almost exlusively use homing ammo, because guided bullets are fucking awesome.

I just spray and pray, this isn't really a combat game

I do wish the game had a decent shotgun, for the same reason

[normal orbit]

rebar gun with quartz ammo

thats as much of a shotgun we have

[feral jay]

It's pretty close to shotgun mechanics yeah

It's not a hitscan but the effect is kinda the same

[normal orbit]

shatter rebar is hitscan

[feral jay]

It is after it lands but not before

[normal orbit]

mm no

its hitscan the moment you pull trigger

unlike the other rebar ammo

[pearl owl]

with fuel generators should i start on the pures or the normals?

[feral jay]

lol I'm upgrading blueprints to the next teir belt, there's always a belt or two I miss and I end up using SCIM to just cheat and upgrade them all

[hollow hemlock]

If youre just starting with it it hardly matters, just get that sweet sweet power rolling in

[feral jay]

Yes just get fuel generators up and running and figure things out as you go

What you learn from building those will come in very useful when you start working towards nuclear

[pearl owl]

what do i with the polymer resin it makes

[dreamy nest]

make plastic and rubber?

[feral jay]

Sink it, figure the rest out later

[normal orbit]

make plubber or sink it

[pearl owl]

alr

sink it it is just to get it off my hands

[dreamy nest]

if you make plubber set up a smart splitter to sink overflow

[feral jay]

Don't take on too much at once, figuring out what to do with the resin is a separate problem

[dreamy nest]

cuz if you cant process the resin your system backs up and no power

[pearl owl]

ill sink it

[normal orbit]

can also turn it into textile, and make gas mask filters, and then iodine filters so you can survive some radiation warmth

[pearl owl]

im making 240 m^3 of crude oil how much fuel plants should i make

[feral jay]

Use a calculator/planner, they help immensely

[pearl owl]

just for a reference

alr ty

[normal orbit]

depends on which recipes you use

[feral jay]

Personally I would recommend https://satisfactorytools.com

You'll need to uncheck SAM as a possible resource, but you can set the amount of oil to 240m³/min, and tell it to just maximize production

[normal orbit]

the bog standard fuel recipe, which is like worst one. would make 160 fuel/min, which would power 8 fuel gens at 100%

[pearl owl]

alr

[normal orbit]

if you have heavy oil residue and diluted fuel recipes. 240 crude would become 320 heavy oil residue, which then becomes 640 fuel, which could power 32 fuel gens

[pearl owl]

how do i tell it maximize production

wait nvm

[feral jay]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=PRpgZuzuDvtge2WvhjD4 that's a good starting setup

For some reason it wants to turn the resin into plastic, but you can also just sink the resin

[pearl owl]

ye ill just sink it

[hybrid nymph]

God I wish there was a mod that added more weapons

[feral jay]

I want a pie launcher

So I can pie enemies in the face

[hybrid nymph]

There is a weapon mod 🙂

I think I'm going to install it. There's also a weapon mod from our good friend Aquila That increases the clip size of every type of ammo on the rifle to 100

[normal orbit]

and if you want more power, overclock the node to 600 crude/min, turn it into 800 heavy oil residue, then into 1600 fuel, and if you have nitro rocket fuel, you can turn that into 2400 rocket fuel/min which would power 240 fuel gens at 240% overclock for 144 gigawatts of power :)

[hybrid nymph]

Nice 🙂👍

[pearl owl]

oh damn i should do that soon i have another pure node i can set that up on when i get around to itg

[hybrid nymph]

I installed the vanilla upgrades mod that allows you to upgrade the vanilla machines base clock speed. I would be able to turn an impure node to a normal node essentially as I could upgrade the base clock speed of the miner Mk2 by 100% and extract 300 per minute instead of just a measly 150

Even if I can only upgrade the base clock speed by 50% that's still good

If I did that, I could increase the extraction rate from an impure node to 225 per minute, instead of the default 150 per minute

[grim carbon]

i've just unlocked indoor lighting, put one up to see how it works, i thought i read that it has a control panel to configure how bright you can make the light from it, but i can't find where to access it

[gloomy tusk]

anyonw know why my rifle wont accept turbo ammo

[cunning glade]

Fused quickwire kinda peak

[normal orbit]

Awesome shop.

[gloomy tusk]

Revan

[hybrid nymph]

You need to hold down the R key to select ammo type

[gloomy tusk]

ok thanks

oh wait

i was using the turbo ammo from the other gun

[hybrid nymph]

I see

Glad you figured it out 😁

[gloomy tusk]

thanks do you know any qualityy of life blueprint modd

[feral jay]

I'm not. I want all other players to fail miserably. THat way I become the superiour player 😛

[feral jay]

There's a mod somewhere that lets you build bigger blueprints, I've used it for rail intersections and spirals

[gloomy tusk]

like factorio blueprints 🥹

[feral jay]

I don't think so, there's nothing out there that'll just let you select a pre-existing factory and blueprint it, it's all done "in the lab" in this game

[real wolf]

i need like 300 fuel powered generators to burn all my fuel

[ornate saffron]

different goals and style in this game your nodes dont run out. so you dont need to move entire factories. You are also not being attacked (factories i mean)