satisfactory

[torpid trellis]

im testing it now and flying back and forth about 10m inside the single factory is causing it to happen, but im staring at the cable connecting everything together so its definitely a single grid inside

[stone quiver]

Just as long as you don't accidentally delete a critical power line

But ya setting up separate power grids is more a realism thing than a concern once your power is wayyyy above consumption

[mortal ginkgo]

eh, your guess is good as mine. some says its separate grid, some says it happens all the time, some says its my mom's fault, etc

this game's bugs goes deeper than game's lore

[torpid trellis]

good thing I made all my factories walkable I guess, will have to make a note not to hover around when doing status checks on stuff

[stone quiver]

What setup is so finely tuned that it goes down if it pauses a few seconds?

[torpid trellis]

it doesnt go down immediately, but if im flying around and it ends up having those pauses like 10 times as i go back and forth, eventually quickwire starts to back up in the outputs of some machines

because its being made in large enough batches

the only setup that it causes an actual issue is Ive got a closed-loop distilled silica line where the water is balanced to need no input, if any of those machines arent running at 100% for long enough then eventually it falls apart and I need to manually top it up

[mortal ginkgo]

its interesting that you have it that severe

I really think this is a server issue since you mentioned it

I got the feeling there WAS a separate grid once and you dont have it anymore yet server didn't update..?

[glacial drum]

Just have a 108MWh battery setup and you’re good

108kMWh*

[torpid trellis]

I think in my case mods might be the culprit, I got a daisy chaining mod to give machines +1 connection rather than spamming power poles, it works perfectly but Im guessing on the backend the game treats those additional connections as separate grids somehow and it triggers the hoverpack bug

[mortal ginkgo]

oh so you are not only in a server but also modded.. oh God.. oh dear Lord.. HAVE MERCY UPON THY SOUL

[torpid trellis]

I get the bug when I have no daisy chained machines but on separate grids, I get it when I have daisy chained machines on a single grid, but not when I have no daisy chaining on single grid

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean.. we really didn't have enough context for your problem 😛

[torpid trellis]

no this is singleplayer, just very lightly modded

[mortal ginkgo]

you have a game-change mod albeit a very smol one.

its not like infinite nudge mod 😛

well you said server so it was.. "wrong context" too! 😭

[glacial drum]

What does the infinite nudge mod even do? Afaik you already can nudge infinitely can you not?

Ah it has smaller nudge increments

[mortal ginkgo]

it also allows minisclue nudge and scale/rotate to your will, anything, including.. UR MOM LOL KEK

[torpid trellis]

I had the same issue before getting it but not this frequently so Im pretty confident the daisy chaining is just being treated as multiple grids to make it way easier to bug out

[mortal ginkgo]

Might be ya.

[stone quiver]

You shouldn't really need to spam power poles though, interesting mod

One double wall mount is 20 connections. A power pole 3 is 10. My factories are like. One pole, one mount.

Could try life without that mod

[cunning glade]

Will a engine and 2 wagons be good enough for something that needs about 1.2k plastic a min

Cuz if I can do a 4 long one each with 2 for plastic and rubber then I only need one train

[reef basin]

depends on much more than just that

but honestly just try it and see

[cunning glade]

Distance being a big factor?

[reef basin]

roundtrip time, belt speed, configuration of load/unload station, etc.

[cunning glade]

I see

Well I'm gonna double buffer it

I almost always double buffer trains

[mortal ginkgo]

buffer will make the problem come up later, you still need to check everything above mentioned

[open briar]

can any1 help me why are my signal blockers show yellow ? https://imgur.com/a/9hUr8c2

[mortal ginkgo]

ofc mk2 storage is needed regardless

[stone quiver]

As long as you are generating enough plastic, the consuming factory will be fine. You just adjust number of train and have a delay due to the initial starvation of the system

[cunning glade]

I'm making 6400 of rubber and plastic

And one factory is in the tropical area the other next too the big Forest lake with that oil node

Building comp factory by Paradise Island I think it'll work

But just theorizing

[stone quiver]

A factory producing 1800 plastic/min even if taking 20m to transport, would saturate the receiving factory over time provided you have the containers to hold the material . The transport is inconsequential to the end result of the system , just how long it takes

[cunning glade]

I see ty

[stone quiver]

It's best to look at boundary conditions when looking at systems to determine what you would expect

[cunning glade]

After this factory I can automate the first phase 4 part too

Cuz supercomputers

What comes next the rocket things or mag gens

I think something magnetic

[crude plinth]

I both hate and love this game, ITS SO FKING HARD TO MAKE THINGS ORGANISED

[stone quiver]

I mean 6400 plastic/rubber is enough to drown any project in materials. I think I do 14 AIs/min in the swamp off of a legacy refinery setup (plastic and HOR byproduct for a small turbo fuel setup) fueling all the plastic needs from start to finish on that tiny output

[mortal ginkgo]

if only people knew that it actually costs alot of time to plan and decorate 😄

[reef basin]

I'd rather make it in amount I need for next step, but you do you

[open briar]

can any1 help me why are my signal blockers show yellow ? https://imgur.com/a/9hUr8c2

[crude plinth]

anyone know how can I automate the things needed for space elevator 3? the 2.5k versatile framework is easy but others are so hard

[reef basin]

why not post as image in #1038092680493801533

[stone quiver]

You automate by making the parts for it... then connect it to the next machine. Start from raw, up to the final product

[open briar]

oh okay

[reef basin]

also include segment colors and what the error is

[crude plinth]

my main save was so chaotic that I made a new save just to free my mind from the abomination I had created

[stone quiver]

Most people start out by just using a lot of space.

[cunning glade]

I hope so I'm already gonna be using about 2-3k

[open briar]

its basicly in the question

[stone quiver]

You making 30 super computers/min?

[mortal ginkgo]

did the same, it works wonders. next time I used a save editor (SCIM) to delete a selection, it works wonders as well

[cunning glade]

20 and 100 normal

[cunning glade]

I just find the nodes around that are oil and make as much as I can from them

[reef basin]

not my recommended approach, but again, you do you

[cunning glade]

Also I can't start phase 4 yet

I need aluminum so I can get drones going so I can drone the super comps

[crude plinth]

btw is there still a way to get the candy cane basher thingy? I have that on my main save but not having it on my second save is kinda sad (I forgot how I got that candy cane basher)

[cunning glade]

Cuz I have my rocketfuel plant but not aluminum for it

[west jackal]

is tehre a way to get armor or soemthing? i feel like a spaghetti man when im exploring

[stone quiver]

Only tier 8/9 item I find worth making in huge amounts (outside of personal challenge) is pasta to fuel portals.

I read most people overwhelmed by trying to automate half the map into one factory

[cunning glade]

Wait u need pasta for portals ?

Interesting maybe that 60 a min will come in handy

[stone quiver]

60/min (non sloop) will literally delete the map of copper fyi. If you enjoy making 1500 refineries, it's the project for you.

You only need like 2-3

[cunning glade]

I don't think so there's what 36k 30 only uses 15k so you'd still have 6k which should be good for anything else

But no I'm doing 30 with the plan too sloop them for a full mk1 belt cuz it'll look better

[mortal ginkgo]

dont think so, these are ficsmas thingies (unless you use a mod)

[stone quiver]

It's 14.4-36k depending on which ore-> ingot recipe

[cunning glade]

Also slooping copper powder would be potentially beneficial there

[crude plinth]

oh, so I gotta use mods or wait a year

[cunning glade]

Tho idk how good the recipe is so maybe not

Haven't gotten that far yet

[stone quiver]

Refinery is the highest yield, but the worst throughput.

[cunning glade]

Well you'd use pure which is the best

[stone quiver]

It is the highest yield, per copper ore, i argue heavily its not the best

[crude plinth]

I Think Ill wait a year, Im so lazy to mod the game

[cunning glade]

Compared too which alt

[stone quiver]

The amount of infrastructure , building, piping, etc that refineries need vs foundry is brutal.

Copper alloy ingot.

[mortal ginkgo]

Refineries got a sanity cost that is not documented by game devs.

[stone quiver]

Iron is the one resource you can treat as close as dispensable due to its massive volume compared to everything else

[mortal ginkgo]

I thought like you once for my ultra late game plan. And decided to use iron pipe recipe to save on coal.

Iron usage kinda went up, not gonna lie, like 90% of all iron 😄

[cunning glade]

See but it ain't that hard especially if u use a nice bp

[stone quiver]

You can bp the manifold, foundry, output of copper alloy ingot, stamp them down a dozen times, just connect the iron/copper conveyor, add a drone port and done.

Blueprinting water extractors , pumps, pipes, and all that just very messy. Since water isn't gonna act the same everywhere.

You choose your path. I find foundry path very easy for the cost of some iron. If you want to do refineries, prepare for 4-5x as many buildings, connections, footprint, etc

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> dare you to post a poll asking whether people think the lizard doggo has a butthole or cloaca

[obsidian zodiac]

damn it marv

its after hours

i miss my wife

[stone quiver]

Only one way to find out.

[leaden turret]

[obsidian zodiac]

please

[leaden turret]

iirc, office has:

• kitchen
• gym
• shower
• bed stashed away somewhere

why you need to leave? 😛

[obsidian zodiac]

and chokladbollar

[stone quiver]

Isn't it dark like 18h/day there? Stay by the glow of your computer. It is safer

[cunning glade]

See just once I get too doing big builds having pure too reduce how much I need is very nice it's also just default for tools Soo I leave it

I like more machines and a big factory

Also water is easy

They each need so little so🤷

[zenith pecan]

I build on a fairly large scale, I cleared the dunes late yesterday for a monster construction.

[cunning glade]

I did the math

[stone quiver]

Go for it. It's the difference between 3-400 buildings and 2500. Your preference

[cunning glade]

I need all of the copper from the dunes part of the copper from the swamps and the tropics for my 15k a min

So the dunes will be left copper less

[cunning glade]

2500 is like never need biggest so far is pasta which will need 1000 non oced for the copper

Oced it's only like 400

[simple pebble]

I low key hate iron pipes and wire

[zenith pecan]

I'll have to import a mountain of copper & caterium, I should start getting some of the original industry rebuild first.

[leaden turret]

two things:

1. that looks like a desert I've had in a sushi restaurant that was sort of like inverted cheesecake balls
2. I guess that's the swedish version of what Chef from South Park sings about 🎶 if you ever need a quick pick-me-up 🎶

[zenith pecan]

Iron popes worked ok in an early game pinch, I just couldn't make the iron wire numbers work without machines going idle.

[simple pebble]

Yeah, pipes are wonderful for small numbers

[zenith pecan]

Hmm, iron wire might actually help large scale though instead of wasting copper.

[latent gate]

There is no safe way to follow up on this joke.

Well done

[leaden turret]

suggestion for tomorrow's joke poll;

"are pop tarts cupcakes"

[latent gate]

NO DON’T

You’ll attract the topology of food community!

They’ll start asking if hot dogs are sandwiches or tacos and that never ends well!

[leaden turret]

is reference to the time Mikael said they thought poptarts were cupcakes
https://archive.satisfactory.video/search/?q=poptart

[zenith pecan]

Iron wires numbers for the motor plant I have planned, 2333.33 iron ingots > 77.78 smelters > 186.667 constructers > 4200 wire, oh man I hate the numbers.

[leaden turret]

asked an answered.

June 29th, 2021
Q&A: Is a Hot Dog a sandwich?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQ1QpTvJi8

[stone quiver]

Those caterium is cooked?

[latent gate]

Brace yourselves…

it’s starting

[zenith pecan]

Caterium is getting burned elsewhere, I'l just looking to keep the large scale pressure off copper for the 150pm motor factory.

[leaden turret]

June 29th, 2021
Q&A: What is a Calzone, but a Pizza sandwich?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_O6eDr9yM

[latent gate]

[stone quiver]

Hot dog is the meat. The bun does not change it

What a trick question

[leaden turret]

[leaden turret]

some weird people put hotdogs into a bun that's had a hole poked in instead of sliced open

I put those in the same category as sushi belters

[stone quiver]

Have you ever seen the glizzy straw?

Drinking a ballpark beer through a hotdog with a hole through it

[latent gate]

In New England they have weird hot dog rolls that look like two slices of bread that haven’t been fully cut

[stone quiver]

I lived in MA for a decade no idea what that is

[leaden turret]

warm hotdog-tainted beer warmed further by fresh hot dog surrounding straw

[stone quiver]

Hotdog on 4 Hawaiian rolls is a thing though

[west jackal]

do you guys bother with storage hubs? if you have dim depot they seem less important?

[latent gate]

#off-topic-media message

[latent gate]

There you go

Real thing

[leaden turret]

I build production towers and stick storage in the basement, sometimes only one per group of towers rather than each getting their own basement depending on whether or not the majority of the floors are making products that aren't needed for building other things

[stone quiver]

Oh that's just a bun

[west jackal]

sounds sick. so you do like mini hubs

[latent gate]

IT IS NOT

[leaden turret]

sorta? it started off as a way to locally house products before shipping off to trains going to a central warehouse, then I just stopped building the central warehouse and started commuting between storage facilities instead.

[west jackal]

what good do priority mergers do?

[west jackal]

that was my feeling, with hypercannons it feels easy enough to just jump between factories

[leaden turret]

I prefer non-accelerated / gravity-accelerated tubes, gives one an excuse to get up from the desk a bit

[native tapir]

Just popping in to do a victory lap

Crane wars have been won

[west jackal]

oh you like taking it slow ;P

[native tapir]

#streams-and-videos message

[west jackal]

how many DD upgrades should i get

it seems like its cheaper to just build 2 DD for things i need high speed atm

[warped meadow]

To have a train go back and forth on the same rail, I need to have a loco in front and back correct?

[west jackal]

just make a loop

[warped meadow]

takes up more space

[west jackal]

then you only need 1 line and 1 loco

[spice osprey]

If your input lines are uneven amounts, a normal merger can sometimes cause 1 line to get backed up. An example would be if you are load balancing in a number of lanes that isn't divisible by 2 or 3. Like if you need one input to become 5 equal outputs. You feed the 6th line back into the input belt so it gets redistributed by the other 5 splitters. When you feed the line back in, you need to use a priority merger and prioritize that line. Otherwise it will back up

[warped meadow]

even if transporting materials from each station?

[west jackal]

okay good to know. it doesnt seem super helpful though because i normally just manifold and not load balance

[west jackal]

im not sure. just ignore what i said and wait for someone smarter ❤️

[fading whale]

One example where they help a lot.
I have a main MK5 belt that outputs 780/m. This goes to a part of the factory that takes 780/m
But because of small fluctuations the 780 sometimes drops, but I still need 780 at the other end. So I top it off from an overflow elsewhere thet feeds into a merger.
It that's a standard merger, it will take every other from the main belt and of overflow meaning the main belt will back up.
But priority merger will only take from the overflow IF main belt is dropping a bit.

[normal orbit]

priority mergers are nice for compressing belts. like squeezing 10 belts of 675/min into 5 belts of 1200/min and one remainer of 750/min

[west jackal]

okay that makes since

so good but not super imperative to get right now

i found 60 oscillators at a crash site, but i havent automated them yet

[bold heron]

would be nice to get an 1.2 head or leg piece that lets the player avoide collision of "player made objects" for very lategame.
so we can phase between floors and walls.

[sick falcon]

nothing really, they’re not super useful

[sick falcon]

u can do that with smart splitters as well tho

[bold heron]

they priotize 1 lane before others when mergin belts and the output is full.

[patent latch]

I had a pirated version but just now bought the game, how do I transfer the save file?

[bold heron]

useful when u have production that not maxes out belts and some goods joining but u wont want 1 belt to back up.

[sick falcon]

go to the file locations and copy your saved game over

[patent latch]

where is it located?

#screenshots message

[normal orbit]

save file is in %user%\appdata\local\factorygame\saved\savegames\

[west jackal]

how do people make round builds

[granite olive]

You rotate pieces just right. I heard it's difficult. I just make cube boxes with windows

[patent latch]

I have a "76561197960271872" folder with the save data and "blueprints" with my blueprints, where do I transfer them for steam?

[normal orbit]

aim foundation at the opposite corner for the turn, hold ctrl and rotate once, then nudge it into place

[granite olive]

Yeh that 👆

[normal orbit]

you can blueprint left and right curves to make it easier

[normal orbit]

prob need to make a new game in steam client so a new number folder is generated, then move the old save into that one

[spice osprey]

Are trucks a form of automation? I sort of assumed that the player would need to get in and drive them around to transport material

[granite olive]

I just started doing blueprints last night! It feels like cheating

[granite olive]

Yes and if you can believe it, so are the little carts

The carts can carry one stack, use no fuel, but you can use a ton of them for a silly low volume transport line. Just make sure there's a road between both truck stops for it

Oh and another fact: if you save a route, it doesn't work between vehicles. You have to record between the cart, tractor, and truck.

Multiple of the same yes, different types,no

[leaden turret]

@void gorge re: Community Highlights, have you thought about getting a DDR machine in the office and using it as a controller for Satisfactory?

[spice osprey]

Interesting. Might be worth it to look into then. I kinda put myself in a pickle with coal for steel production. There are 2 coal nodes near my base. 1 of them has a bunch of iron nearby, but that's where I built my power plant. The other has much more limited iron, but I've already used all of those iron nodes for other projects. So I either need to transport the unused coal node to my unused iron, or I need to relocate my power plant so that the coal node near the iron is free for steel production.

[granite olive]

You can always build around the nodes after you.put.the miners on them.

Make them little showpieces like those little gardens at office buildings

[spice osprey]

You're just talking about decerations though, right? I'm talking about a logistical issue

[granite olive]

Well. A simple solution would be careful belt placement so they don't spagoot and sending them where they need to go

How far are these nodes? Would belts feels silly?

[glacial drum]

Time to automate atleast 5 ornaments/min

Turns out changing your system clock does infact allow you to replay ficsmas

[spice osprey]

My base in in the bottom left corner of the map. My power plant is on the little island with a pure coal node. A little ways to the right of that is the other pure coal node. there's 4 normal iron right next to that, but I've already used that iron.

[granite olive]

Is over clocking and belt upgrades an option?

[spice osprey]

I am in the very early stages of tier 3

[granite olive]

The tractor unlocks with the truck bay round then, yeh?

[acoustic bear]

tractor is very early unlock

before train or anythign

[spice osprey]

Yes, Vehicular Transport is a tier 3 unlock, so I could work towards that.

[acoustic bear]

tractors are super useful and can be used well into the late game

[granite olive]

K.heres what you can do. Make a road to where you want the stuff to go, preferably from your base to the place so it all lines up, and using coal as fuel (ugly belt is fine) you simply transport.your materiel closer and belt.it from the truck stop.

Make road there. Place truck stop. Walk power lines back. Place truck stop at home. Make tractor. Record.route to other truck stop and back, make sure at least one stop has a coal belt going into it, and off you.go

Oh and you only have to fuel one truck stop.

Or, if you're feeling silly. Do the same thing but use the carts if the volume is really low.

Like a bunch of carts. Just for fun. Or do both. Go nuts

You're at tier 3 so it wouldn't hurt anything to clown it right now

[supple rain]

why did it take me this long to find someone doubling truck stop throughput by just having two stops
(Two stations back to back on pickup and dropoff let you have double the potential throughput and I didnt even think about it)

[granite olive]

Idk what you mean

[spice osprey]

If i'm being honest, I think the smarter solution is to rebuild my power plant. Use the eastern coal node for that, and use the western one for steel production since it has a bunch of iron available nearby

[supple rain]

like;
lets say I'm using mk.1 belts, each truck stop has a maximum throuhgput of 120/m each, but I need more than 120/m of throughput

[granite olive]

Whichever is closest to water is good for coal plant.

Wait until you unlock fuel/turbo fuel. Hehe

[granite olive]

Mhmmm 🤔

[supple rain]

if I tell my truck to pick up from two 120/m stations right next to eachother, then drive off to the destination, as long as it makes it back before the truck stops are full, it will be able to carry the throughput of both

[granite olive]

Oh. I see

[supple rain]

I somehow never thought of that, thats a big part of why I never used trucks, because the throughput was so limited
(but I was just an idiot lmao)

[granite olive]

At that level I didn't think to do all that since I didn't have the power to use it

[supple rain]

having multiple trucks on the same route does fix the filling problem though

[granite olive]

You wanna talk about feeling like an idiot? I'm a blue collar dude playing a.math nerds (affectionate) game.
Unga bunga starter factory go 🍝🍝🍝

[supple rain]

to be fair, 🍝 is delicious

[granite olive]

I officially evolved from.my.starter base.last night after everything finally clicked and now I have a sprawling factory making everything I can at the mk5 build limit. I'm proud of me

[supple rain]

I'm proud of you too :D
Hitting each progressive conveyor mark allows alot more in terms of factories

right after your phase in progression, logistics tier is your biggest limitation

[granite olive]

Since this is the official satisfactory discord. I'm telling you all now I've named the encased beams "butter" and I encourage everyone to spread that like wildfire

[supple rain]

ohh truuue

and it's already got the butter knife stuck in the middle of it too! so efficient

[granite olive]

I figured that out from minute 1 and using the satisfactory calc I started making everything at the belt speed limit. And even now I can only make rotors at like 30/min with mk5 belts

[supple rain]

oh really?

[granite olive]

Yeh. That's with all the base components going 780/min

[spice osprey]

#screenshots message

This is what I'm looking at currently

[granite olive]

Coal gen goes where your words are. That's perfect.

[supple rain]

I personally build for a specific goal of items/m, and just belt in whatever is neccecary for that number

thats how I wind up with 1014 coal/m being demanded by my factory

[granite olive]

Ain't there yet. Currently trying to make everything as fast as one mk2 overclock source and mk5 belts will allow

[spice osprey]

So you think its a good idea to rebuild the power plant like I said here?

[granite olive]

Ill start spreading the loads with multiple sources making thousands of items a minute through multiple lines eventually but my brain isn't braining that yet

[supple rain]

wait you're in phase 4 i you got mk.5 belts
and you get mk.3 miners in phase 4

though it is in the late of phase 4

[granite olive]

That bottom right corner where I saw the node and some water is as good as you're gonna get on that map rn for power

[granite olive]

No no I just unlocked nuclear power

But I will say I jumped ahead on the sulfar tree and now can do rocket fuel but I don't have the ability to unlock that one acid or gas I need to make it

[supple rain]

isn't... isn't nitrogen part of the first half of phase 4?

[granite olive]

Yes

[supple rain]

oh wait no it's not, it's right after nuclear

[granite olive]

I have nitrogen too. But for a selfish reason since I can't use it yet. I like watching the machine throw it's little fit to get the gas out

Oh and that big cluster of oil on the bottom left of the map I currently have completely utilized with regular oil extraction and that particular machine since there's a pressurized one there too

I'm hunting and rocking between 7 and 8 but I have the hazmat suit too. So.i.guess I'm done with 7

About power tho. I'm pushing something like 14kw and my orange line is at about 9kw at any given time .but the blue line is dangerously close to the gray once since I keep building to the speed limit for things i need to make. A lot of my.machines just idle until I do something due to them all being full

And when I'd deleted my starter base I got like 3kw.or so back since all those machines were on mercer boxes and constantly running

[normal orbit]

i'd build a power plant up north near the big lake with four normal coal nodes next to it

[granite olive]

I didn't even see that. Yes. Listen to neko

[supple rain]

ah yes, the
"stuck staring at the machine for two hours"
moment
a true classic among the pioneers

[granite olive]

2 minutes. I gotta go build another thing. Controlled ADHD and satisfactory is a dangerous combination

[supple rain]

I like watching the vids of the machines online so that I dont run my clock up too much without actually playing the game, plus the sounds are very nice

[spice osprey]

Yeah, someone else recommended that to me a few days ago as well. That’s outside the area that I’ve explored so far, but it’s not too far away, so it’s probably worth it.

[granite olive]

Send it! 👍

[granite olive]

Can't say I've done that cept when I first used the calculator to go ham on a modular frame factory

[normal orbit]

then as you get fuel power, head east to the blue crater. have all resources there to make yes amounts of rocket fuel

[stoic nebula]

does anyone know where I can watch cabaret?

[granite olive]

I just...basked

[stoic nebula]

@normal orbit another neko?? :DDD

[native tapir]

Amen brother or sister

[granite olive]

I'm gonna go there for my next massive fuel factory. I'm gonna try to avoid nuclear as long as I can until I can unlock Plutonium rods to sink

[granite olive]

Brother. And I didn't say medicated. I said "controlled". Hyper focus. Discipline controlling the thing, and conveyer belts. I'm in heaven.

[west jackal]

@sweet light how did you make that insane amazing looking round structure

[stoic nebula]

does anyone know where I can watch cabaret?

[granite olive]

What is that

[west jackal]

Are plut rods not unlocked at the same time?

[stoic nebula]

a musical

[granite olive]

Ionno. Lemme look

[normal orbit]

they're a separate milestone, but in same tier

[stoic nebula]

@normal orbit another neko!!!

[granite olive]

No. They are on the tail end of the tier. I could just tink tink my way to it without going too nuts

[stoic nebula]

wait is nuke power needed?

[granite olive]

No

[west jackal]

Oh I guess I just unlocked at same time in past

Is geothermal still in the game?

[reef basin]

nothing is "needed" really

[normal orbit]

yes

[granite olive]

But it's a huge leap and you can utilize the oil for other things.

[stoic nebula]

okay good i have a lot of fuel power and dont wanna do it
@reef basin

[west jackal]

Lol I remember when it was first added and finally had enough power to shut off my 2 coal gens LOL

[normal orbit]

depends how big you end up building, you can finish game on rocket fuel ezpz, but if you wanna make some large scale production. you probably wanna look into nuclear power and its entire upcycle chain to ficsonium.

[stoic nebula]

i need more plastic anyway.... i dunno i really dont wanna build it

[granite olive]

One oil plant is like 250 and nuke is like 2500. Yu get that ball rolling with iodine filters in a mercer box you'll never hurt for power again

[granite olive]

Why not

[normal orbit]

on fuel gen is 250mw at 100%

[stoic nebula]

i dont wanna deal with nuke power, im not good enough at the game for it

[granite olive]

Fat thumbs

I got my numbers wrong but still. Power make go up 😁

[stoic nebula]

i suck at the game and wouldnt trust my build

[dreamy nest]

It doesn't explode if it melts down

It just irradiates

[stone quiver]

Who needs anything but biofuel.

[dreamy nest]

Build it far away from stuff lol

[stoic nebula]

still, i would be mad as fuck if it messed up because i dont wanna fix it

[west jackal]

Does uranium have any use other than nuclear power?

[normal orbit]

no

[west jackal]

Is it feasible to use all uranium on the map for one power grid?

(With sinking plut)

[normal orbit]

sure, theres "only" 2100 uranium/min

[granite olive]

I found out you can't delete raw uranium from your inventory. I wasn't wearing a suit. I looked like a scared deer dropping a duece and bolting

[stone quiver]

Not counting SAM

[west jackal]

Is that mk3 at 250?

[stoic nebula]

sob

[normal orbit]

yes, theres 2 normal nodes and 3 impure

[west jackal]

Dude you made me laugh out loud in the middle of class and pissed off my teacher 🤣

[stone quiver]

You can use plutonium as drone battery , unless you wanna sink

[west jackal]

Does it not create waste as drone battery?

And how do you handle it irradiating other factories?

[normal orbit]

used 1200 uranium/min in my last save, going full chain to ficsonium. made around 1TW of power in 180 nuclear plants

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont handle it, you embrace it, you become on with it. and no they dont produce waste

[west jackal]

Ficsonium must be new, idk what it is

[normal orbit]

plutonium waste refines into ficsonium which doesnt create waste when burned

[stone quiver]

Ya nuclear chain makes crazy power, I'm so lazy to set it up

[west jackal]

So you can burn plut without waste buildup now?

[normal orbit]

yes

[west jackal]

Is that t9 tho

[normal orbit]

its not cheap. but doable

[west jackal]

/converter

[normal orbit]

yes in tier 9

[reef basin]

ficsonium is since 1.0

[west jackal]

I havent made it to t9 since pre 1.0

[granite olive]

I like you. youre the Goku to my Vegeta

[west jackal]

I made it to t8 before I had to stop bc of irl commitment, and I always end up restarting bc I forget where everything is

[granite olive]

Signs exist. No I don't use them. Getting lost is the fun part

[covert quarry]

do new tiers come with each update?

[patent latch]

I deleted the new save steam generated and gave its folder name to the old one, the save works but i spawned in the hub without any of my stuff

[granite olive]

When i get home I'm gonna make big billboards pointing to where things are

[west jackal]

I dont think they've added new tiers since 1.0 just balance/small new things

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message didnt make it pretty, was more proof i could do it :p

[granite olive]

I wonder if those mountainous areas across the water with be visitable in the future.

[west jackal]

How do you consume over max cons?

[leaden turret]

nope, just pretty backdrops with nanite

[west jackal]

Does slooping cause that?

[mortal ginkgo]

how many fuel rod/mins is this?

[cunning glade]

Does aluminum and sam making something important

Or does it just convert the aluminum into something else

[granite olive]

You don't. Fuse go 💩

[stone quiver]

I'm in t9 with my friend just farting around... we did everything with just 3-4 factories. Dunno how to get lost . Take tube to the factory.

[cunning glade]

Dang autocorrect

[normal orbit]

1200 uranium became 28.8 uranium rods/min which then became 12.8 plutonium/min and then 64 ficsonium rods iirc

[mortal ginkgo]

very kinky, thank you. I am glad to see that it is more than 2 TWs of power

[west jackal]

Not max production. His orange is over blue

[normal orbit]

well its around 1TW the rest is the alien augmentors

[cunning glade]

Is using all of the uranium possible

[normal orbit]

yes

[reef basin]

depends how you define "using"

[granite olive]

That's....I don't know.

[normal orbit]

tho it will require slooping some sam production

[cunning glade]

Like if I wanna use it all and make a perfect loop with it what would be the best way

[reef basin]

it won't

[cunning glade]

Prolly just with plutonium

[granite olive]

Using every resource across the map is possible. I'd love to see that factory

[reef basin]

you can end at uranium, plutonium or ficsonium, it's your choice

[cunning glade]

Ficsonium seems cool but I don't think it's possible with using all of the uranium

[normal orbit]

theres not enough sam to make full recycle of 2100 uranium/min into ficsonium

[reef basin]

it very much is

[reef basin]

there is

[cunning glade]

I mean maybe but I'm now gonna be dedicating everything too this

Cuz using all of the uranium will be my last project

[reef basin]

depends on recipes you use

[cunning glade]

So I'll have what's left on the map

[normal orbit]

when i did the math, i ended up with around 12000 sam ore/min without using sloops to do the full chain. the biggest eater was making like 3000 ficsite trigons/min

[cunning glade]

Unsure not sure how too properly make it work with tools

[reef basin]

which Ur/Pu recipes did you use?

[cunning glade]

Cuz maximizing ficsonium fuel rods gives me nothing

Tools says no worky

[west jackal]

More power

[normal orbit]

the ones ending up in the largest amount of rods

[reef basin]

need to input waste

[reef basin]

well then sure, but nobody forces you to use those recipes

[cunning glade]

Yeah idk my numbers tho till I actually understand and do nuclear so

Can't really try and guess what it's gonna use rn

[normal orbit]

50.4 uranium rods/min, 22.4 Pu rods/min and 112 ficsonium rods/min

[cunning glade]

Too see if it'll be possible

[mortal ginkgo]

sloop + overclock the final step. doable indeed

you can get 120 fisco rods

[cunning glade]

Ig maybe

[reef basin]

you can just use different recipes to make less and then you don't even need sloops

[cunning glade]

If I have sloops tho ig I could dupe for some more fun

Or I wonder if there's a mod too but them in awesome shop like crystals

[normal orbit]

sure, but the goal was to make the most power with the materials available

[sterile blade]

There is always a mod

[reef basin]

which doesn't necessarily include those recipes

[cunning glade]

Well I have the one that adds power shards and hard drives

[normal orbit]

and slooping the trigons ended up being the most economical in sloop usage to achieve it

[cunning glade]

Cuz I added some t9 alternative recipes

Cuz I'm curious but if aren't balanced I ain't gonna use them

[sterile blade]

Using about how many Sloops...?

[mortal ginkgo]

fisco rods are funny enough, extremely expensive on trigons so...

[cunning glade]

Trigons needing? I've never been too phase5

[mortal ginkgo]

eh, my silly calculation states around 40 as I need 9.6 Fisco Rod Makers

[sterile blade]

Oh wow, so totally doable!

[mortal ginkgo]

fisco rod asks tons of it, thats why SAM etc is limiter factor for them

[cunning glade]

Oh cuz Sam makes them

[mortal ginkgo]

it is totally, you can even get more but I also wanted to focus on maximise uranium and plut fuel rod too

[cunning glade]

Yes trigons that's what needs Sam and aluminum

Iron being the best for it?

[sterile blade]

Funny how I never considered using Sloops to see wether "max nuclear" could be possible (including Ficsonium ofc)

[cunning glade]

Cuz most sam effective?

Can autocorrect stop people named Sam exist

So in that case

[normal orbit]

iron costs most sam to make ficsite. aluminium is least sam, caterium is between

[cunning glade]

Idk cuz I need too figure out what to do for aluminum

[west jackal]

I dont want to use all my sam 🙁

[cunning glade]

Oh wait aluminum is the best

[west jackal]

She was cute and now she's gonna go away to make a bazillion watts

[cunning glade]

Yeah it just shows the cost doesn't show how many of each I get a min till I scroll over on mobile

Okay so maybe I do make 10k aluminum and leave alot of ingots left over

Cuz like that's what idk yet is aluminum

Ik all phase 5 parts I think uses close too 5k

[normal orbit]

60 reanimated sam + 120 aluminium ingots make 30 ficsite/min

[mortal ginkgo]

if you are at the stage of using all SAM, you are already at ultra late game.

[cunning glade]

No clue how much Trigons I'm gonna need

[granite olive]

Big bong rip question: how much power is possible too make in the game? Every resource but biomass running, what is the absolute highest possible amount one can make? Can anyone answer that?

[cunning glade]

I need 3900 ingots a min for all of my phase 5 parts tho

So if I do make 10k that leaves about 6k left over which for sam and other stuff should be plenty

[west jackal]

No im planning for the future. I haven't even automated hmf/motors

[normal orbit]

if you want max production, 2100 uranium will require 4480 ficsite trigons/min

[sterile blade]

There have been various calculations done on that and we have different results depending on some variables like:

• Slooping?
• Ore conversion?

[normal orbit]

you can use other recipes to make less

[mortal ginkgo]

then you will be happy to use SAM, it is mostly used for late game stuff anyway

[west jackal]

Right now I just have it being refined then manually turning it into fluctuators for dd

[sterile blade]

The baseline with no slooping or ore conversion is (iirc) over 4 TW @granite olive

[cunning glade]

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

That's alot

[west jackal]

I dont even have many Mercer spheres yet. I went exploring for some and got messed up by some rad hogs

[mortal ginkgo]

my brother casually went to end game zones while looking for some silly purple balls

[cunning glade]

Uhh tools says that amount isn't possible

[mortal ginkgo]

and got NONE

[west jackal]

The biome was pretty! Untill the giant green spiders jumped through the air and ran me towards rad hogs and the giant spitters

[tall lantern]

are you sure that's not with conversions? I thought it was closer to 1 or 2 TW

[west jackal]

Not true, I got some

[normal orbit]

no, you need to sloop at least one step to have enough sam

[cunning glade]

3825 is the max

Without them ye

Only 5100 aluminum tho

[west jackal]

I was also looking for HD, sloops, and slugs. I got like 80 power shards 5 sloops and 6 hd, plus like 10 ms

[cunning glade]

So if i make 15k aluminum which is the max I can make

Oof

I use 12k quartz

So I'm left with 1k quartz on the map

[normal orbit]

i would recommend slooping the step making the ficsite

[sterile blade]

Nuclear alone can give ~1.4 TW and the oil leftover from that should give even more IIRC

[cunning glade]

Only need 500 quartz for phase 5 parts

So I mean technically do able

[mortal ginkgo]

Ah sounds like lore of my adventures: #satisfactory message

[cunning glade]

I need too verify my chain is using the right parts tho

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=TQhslGSuCXJ6mrRnNGit

[stone quiver]

Everyone obsessed with "what's the max" of everything.

[cunning glade]

Cuz I can prolly make it better and use Less of some things

[cunning glade]

No I just like making big things

[west jackal]

That sounds about right 😭 it was along the east coast I died a couple times trying to escape

[cunning glade]

And I wanna use all of the uranium low-key

But only if doable

With my current other plans

[west jackal]

But I got like 60 oscillators and computers so I was able to research pocket upload

[cunning glade]

Damm

I should've done 120 computers a min for a full mk2 belt not 100

[west jackal]

I really need more Mercer spheres, im tired of running to get all the resources

Can't afford power grid to handle a bunch of cannons

Should upgrade power grid... I can more than double it with the existing nodes!

[mortal ginkgo]

ah Swamp Area, well you REALLY went for the danger 😭

[cunning glade]

Once u get that smart plating automated do a huge exploration run

[boreal jackal]

hello, is there a channel to discuss satisfactory mods in?

[dreamy nest]

There's a whole mod discord

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @leaden turret

[granite olive]

That's a lot of juice

[boreal jackal]

ah okay, thanks

[west jackal]

I just finished the phase (I filled some boxes with the items for plating)

[sterile blade]

But at that point one literally has no more resources to use the power for

[cunning glade]

Well u need 1000 next and then after that even more iirc

[west jackal]

I need to automate some stuff b4 I start oil but my gfs lil brother wabts me to play palworld with him all the time

[west jackal]

The 1000 is the one I just finished

[granite olive]

That's what I was wondering. Yeh.

[west jackal]

And ill need to automate it for the engines

[cunning glade]

I mean I'm already making 700-800gw and I still wanna make nuclear out for fun

[normal orbit]

i did enjoy setting up nuclear. after some panic fixing :p

[sterile blade]

@granite olive BTW, the biggest "all-resources-used" factory plans (like max-coupons and similars) might not even reach 2 TW of consumption... I don't recall the numbers on this well, though 😅

[west jackal]

Max coupons?

To make nuts?

[sterile blade]

Yeah, like maximizing production to get the most points/min from the sinks.
To go nuts trying to build that

[west jackal]

That soubds... interesting

[sterile blade]

This usually translates in factory plans with 200+ Advanced Directory Systems/min

[west jackal]

Do people like stop all their other factories to do that?

[cunning glade]

Do ads be like the most point effective?

[stone quiver]

True end game is making buildings out of nuts

[west jackal]

Also side note; how do priority switches work?

[cunning glade]

My endgame is just a lot of points

[stone quiver]

I mean all your factories end game feed into phase 5 stuff in some way typically

[cunning glade]

Coupons

[normal orbit]

if you run out of power, the priority power will shut off the part with the lowest priority first

[sterile blade]

I think they either build it after finishing the game and then connecting all resources to that or build it all in creative-like mode...
I doubt anyone decided to just retrofit their factories to execute the plan, something that massive requires tons of planning, it's easier to have a "clean slate" (so at least building everything in separate locations from existing stuff)

[west jackal]

Yeah it seems overwhelming

[stone quiver]

Getting coupons for statues happens very quickly . You just set up a sink overflow on each factory

You earn points far faster than you can build your next project

[west jackal]

I want a room of golden nuts

Whatever isnt going to feed the power plant must be utilized 😭

[sterile blade]

I'm actually not too sure about that . I realize that I was just basing that detail on "pre-1.0" knowledge... But the most coupon-efficient item is still surely one of the Project Parts

[west jackal]

Mk 4 miners when? 😂

[stone quiver]

Yes, just pick a project part, the key to coupon points is just time, not necessarily the max item

[normal orbit]

ballistic warpdrive gives the most points per part iirc. but just sinking the excess as you progress will give you enough tickets to get golden nut by phase 5

[cunning glade]

BWD are

True but even before I have any phase 4 parts sinking I'm still making around 2m points a min

I need more

[sterile blade]

It can be straight forward with good planning, but it's still a lot of work. Even with a good plan, placing more than 25k overclocked machines takes quite some time (though mods can be a huge help on that)

And let's not even talk about the kilometers of logistics...

[west jackal]

I used to have mods but I dont have them atm, Im thinking of getting some building ones so I can try to make nice builds, bc I dont see how people make round builds

[sterile blade]

Just a few
The numbers must go up!

[fiery violet]

@normal orbit How much power is that???
-# #screenshots message

[normal orbit]

~ 1tw

[west jackal]

Also I yet to get an answer on how his cons is above his max cons

[cunning glade]

Yeah would probably be more but I didn't properly automate phase 3 parts I just hand fed a few machines

Phase 3 kinda feels like a joke

[sterile blade]

Doing round things in vanilla is possible, but quite tricky/annoying
The "Wan method" is a great start, as it's a very flexible yet powerful method and relatively easy to pick up (some methods can get quite convoluted...)

[normal orbit]

cuz end game machines have a ramping up power useage

[fluid sapphire]

i think this happens with particle accelerators?

[cunning glade]

How badly do thoose be power usage wise

Cuz I'm gonna need I think 30 of them slooped and partially oced

What I think 30 at 200% and slooped for pasta

[normal orbit]

iirc a fully overclocked and slooped particle accelerator hits around 25.000MW

[west jackal]

HOLY

I forgot how expensive those mf are

[west jackal]

Okay ill check youtube

[tall lantern]

Late-game stuff with variable power usage just does that

[fluid sapphire]

the formula is laid out in the wiki

[west jackal]

Does Particle accel show the average or something and it can spike?

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch production+amplifier

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=production+amplifier

[fickle locust]

60 pasta per minute?

[normal orbit]

particle accelerator, converter and quantum encoder all have variable power drains. the consumption will be an average, but at max draw its higher

[west jackal]

Cool. Thank you.

[mortal ginkgo]

make 60/min pasta, there is enough copper for that without sloops

[sterile blade]

@cunning glade BWDs do give the most points, but are quite "inefficient" in doing that.
Sorry if I base my example on the previous shipment, but the logic is the same: even though ADA yeld less points per item than TPRs, "max coupons" plans usually go for 200+ ADS/min and just give the leftovers for TRPs because doing the opposite would yield "just" little more than 60 TPRs/min...

TLDR: BWDs give more points but cost "too much" resources to make, so to maximize coupons it's best to maximize other project parts and give the leftovers to BWDs

[cunning glade]

I see

BWD leftovers would be nuclear pasta right

Cuz I be making 60 of thoose so I could make a tad more

Tho 4 slooped too 8 I'm not unhappy with

But it could be more

[quasi warren]

I have so much power now LOL

[granite olive]

Isn't it funny how we all avoid making spaghetti only to have to make pasta in the end one way or another?

[copper grail]

Should I choose charcoal from a hard drive or should I rescan

[tall lantern]

would you use charcoal?

[cunning glade]

The one from wood is a horrible recipe tbh not many uses

[copper grail]

My main power is coal

[normal orbit]

neither, if you dont select a recipe that recipe will be removed from the pool

[cunning glade]

Not for long

[copper grail]

Yeah it's the wood one

[cunning glade]

Once u get oil coal becomes kinda pointless for power

[copper grail]

It's either charcoal, 6 inventory slots, or a rescab

scan*

[cunning glade]

Or keep it find more and u won't get it again in future hard drives

[sterile blade]

BTW, do take the numbers I gave with a decent amount of salt... While the proportions might be accurate (~240 Vs ~70 to be exact), the numbers themselves might be quite off by now days standards 😅

[reef basin]

do whichever you want

[ornate saffron]

Generally speaking I don't make any selection unless I need it. Ill just let it sit there as it removes it from the pool of options.

[copper grail]

Imma just take the inventory slots tbh

[sterile blade]

Some do sushi instead!
There's really something for everyone

[mortal ginkgo]

sushi enjoyers go jail tho'

[granite olive]

I have ai limiters in mercer box. I may just

[copper grail]

Your username makes me get mad

[ornate saffron]

Put all the sushi into my mouth

[granite olive]

I could make a long sushi line to a base and use it to store every item in its own box and sink the rest

[copper grail]

Wha

[native tapir]

Sushi belts are cool

[sterile blade]

Don't let your emotions become impure.
Do not mine the Node, resist its calling!

[native tapir]

Like real sushi, they need to be done right

[mortal ginkgo]

You know you need to tap me.

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom is cool

[glacial drum]

Turns out my problem seems to be i’m not making enough fuel for my rocket fuel.

[native tapir]

She's okay

[sterile blade]

Objective factual fact right there

[copper grail]

This is why I get concrete from a pure limestone node

[glacial drum]

Ffs the pipes were sending enough to the 1st level but only like 40% of what was needed to the 2nd level

[mortal ginkgo]

H E R E S Y

[glacial drum]

so all the HOR backed up and barely any got to the blenders to make fuel

That’ll teach me to make multi lvl blender setups

Sigh

[quasi warren]

I legit tap all normal and pure nodes. Any impure limestone nodes I leave alone

[glacial drum]

Means I probably have to tear this whole thing down to fix it up unfortunately

[cunning glade]

So prolly turning all 60 pasta into bwd isn't that worth it

[copper grail]

I accidentally dismantled the space elevator, I am screwed

[mortal ginkgo]

You are WEAK.

[cunning glade]

Prolly too expensive other stuff wise

[quasi warren]

Nah. You can just replace it

[granite olive]

I put a bunch of impure nodes together to make a fast line just for you

[sterile blade]

They can make for cool #satisfactory-memes message too

[copper grail]

It didn't give me all the materials back

[cunning glade]

Oh it's doug

[copper grail]

I'm short 1000 wite

[quasi warren]

Then get 1000 wire

And replace it

[cunning glade]

I agree tho idk how too properly do them but also cool crane build on reddit btw

[copper grail]

too much work

[mortal ginkgo]

you had no inventory space, there must be a Dismantle Crate somewhere near you

[quasi warren]

^

[copper grail]

Too much ticking and holding space bar

[mortal ginkgo]

Brother said 1000 Wire is too much work...

Brother is not ready for whats to come later on...

[quasi warren]

... you dont have to hold it down

[mortal ginkgo]

AUTOMATE WIRES PLEASE DEAR LORD

[copper grail]

Oh

[quasi warren]

Just press space once. And it runs automatically

[mortal ginkgo]

also you press Space once..

[quasi warren]

Plus. automate wire.

[mortal ginkgo]

Please don't manual craft stuff unless you are forced..

[glacial drum]

Huh. I think I can solve my problem mostly by just making the fuel at the HOR refinery area. The only problem with that being instead of piping 900 HOR to the RF farm I’d have to pipe.. 1800… fuel..

[quasi warren]

^

[copper grail]

The closest pure copper node in 2000m away

[cunning glade]

God damn

[mortal ginkgo]

use other nodes?

[quasi warren]

you can do normal or impure

It just changes the output on the miner

[copper grail]

I saw that

[cunning glade]

Just realized my computer factory makes 10k quick wire

[quasi warren]

Impure: 30 normal: 60 pure: 120

[cunning glade]

And then 1.2k normal wire

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont even need that big of an automation for wire, just tap some copper

[cunning glade]

Call it the wire factory ig

[quasi warren]

^

Miner --> smelter --> constructor --> storage

[cunning glade]

And then a smart splitter for overflow

[quasi warren]

He's early game

[cunning glade]

Ah fair

[quasi warren]

Like EARLY early.

[mortal ginkgo]

HE THINKS WIRE IS TOO MUCH WORK AND YOU BROTHERMAN TELL HIM TO USE SMART SPLITTER

[cunning glade]

Smart splitters are pretty early too imo

[quasi warren]

He's fresh spawn in satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

You must be OUT OF YOUR MIND

[quasi warren]

He probably doesnt know NOTHIN

[mortal ginkgo]

NOTHIN AT ALL

[quasi warren]

Most satisfactory players are though

[mortal ginkgo]

THESE DUDES BE TAKIN' OUR JERBS!

[quasi warren]

me included

[granite olive]

I have a 600 of copper with half of it going to cable. If it's not maximized for my current load I'm not happy

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman here making cable as if his life depends on it

[cunning glade]

U could get smart splitters in the first like 3 hours

[granite olive]

I'm making everything as fast as I possibly can. With like 24 constructors on that muff

[cunning glade]

Yes gotta be efficient starting out

First thing I go for is foundations

[quasi warren]

He is BRAND new. Cut him some slack

[mortal ginkgo]

Hey listen, at least he didn't say he could finish the game in 10 hours.

[cunning glade]

I mean I've technically never beaten the game so I'm new too probably

I don't fully automate till I have foundations down

[ornate saffron]

Ive beaten the game seven times and im still new

[cunning glade]

First hour is just making concrete well my friend finishes the hub

[granite olive]

I have 50 carts doing a 2km coal run when I could use a drone for the love of the game.

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now you go jail

[granite olive]

(I'm gonna change it today but still)

[mortal ginkgo]

straight to jail, literally

[granite olive]

YOU LEAVE MY BABIES ALONE

[ornate saffron]

@spice osprey North of the start area there is a lake with four coal nodes. I highly recommend doing coal power there. Leaving your pure nodes for steel and such

[cunning glade]

I'm hyped I'm getting super close

[native tapir]

That? Took me like 10 min but thanks!

[cunning glade]

No way that big ass crane took 10 mins

I mean y'all had a lot of people

[mortal ginkgo]

no worries bud, I use them for small amount of transport in my main HUB 😄

#design-and-architecture message

[native tapir]

Oh, no it was just me

the folks in the photo are just part of the crew. Not to say that we don't collab or share ideas

[ornate saffron]

Seeing the credits and claims all trophies really opens up your mind for the real game

[cunning glade]

Oh neat I wasn't sure I assumed everyone helped

[native tapir]

My buddy Nova gave me some ideas for speed building the crane but that was me haha

[cunning glade]

I can't wait till I can make things look good

[native tapir]

maybe 20 min if I'm being honest

[cunning glade]

I see

[native tapir]

10 might be a bit of an understatement I admit

[cunning glade]

Ig building like that prolly isn't as annoying as connect 100s of machines

[native tapir]

(kidding. that took forever but if you tel anyone I'm going to say this is AI)

[cunning glade]

Don't worry I won't lol

[spice osprey]

Yep, you're the 3rd person to recommend that to me. I'll definitely take that advice

[native tapir]

the videos are the most time consuming part

[sterile blade]

Third time's the charm

[native tapir]

film everything in slow motion and then make the video. Takes way more time than anything I've built lately. Been a sec since I did a serious build.

[ornate saffron]

Im okay if you dont take it too. I just want to make sure you have all the information before making decisions ^-^

[cunning glade]

Yeah sounds about right media Creation can be annoying and very time consuming did some video editing classes in school and holy

[sterile blade]

I remember sending a "feature request" for stuff that could make content-creation easier (not too dissimilar to some of FicsitCam's features). I don't think that has ever gone anywhere...

[native tapir]

Oh Ficsit cam guy just did a huge update for Gursoy and I

[cunning glade]

I can't wait too actually be able too decorate well and too go back and decorate cuz my current factorys are just floors basically with all the machines

[native tapir]

well, for everyone butat our suggestion

[sterile blade]

Don't be a tease, spill them beans! 😆
What's the update/suggestion?

[cunning glade]

Floors and then 1 line of walls up too build the roof for more machines

[ornate saffron]

Every time i start a save i set rules for myself.

A big one is decorate before moving on.

Hard to do early game so I do everything I can and set a reminder. Such as

Do x when you have a hover pack

[cunning glade]

Yeah I just wanna finish the game and go back and decorate/optimize and make things look better with 1200 belts

U unlock 1200 belts so late for them too really be useful

[ornate saffron]

A good example is my razor, staor and motor tower. It looks fine but needs a hover pack to finish

[native tapir]

Oh he just added some. It's live.

Stability was the big one. No more crashes.

He also added a feature I asked for! A button to auto adjust keyframes to maintain constant camera speed!

[cunning glade]

All of my projects which they would've helped in were way before getting them

[ornate saffron]

Or just in time for copper powder

[native tapir]

Upcoming: he is adding bloom and other adjustments like photo mode has

[sterile blade]

I wish I managed to keep such self-promises for more than like... One phase 😭

[cunning glade]

Yeah my 37000 ingots a min will need I think 50 mk5 belts

Like flow of the game belts work really well until mk6

[sterile blade]

Thanks.
I'm not keeping up with mods updates 😅

[cunning glade]

Maybe making diamonds an end of phase 8 thing would be better

Hard enough too where u still use 780 for a while but if u really wanted could progress thru and unlock them

Cuz like idk if I make the 100 pasta I need then the 60 a min factory feels lame

[ornate saffron]

Mk6 belts are the first thing I unlock in phase 5

[cunning glade]

Will be same here

[quasi warren]

Im currently making 40 singularly cells a minute. I can handle 20 portals. Who needs this many???

[cunning glade]

Gonna need 30k coal for my time crystals

Well diamonds but

[quasi warren]

I understand that big time.

I looked at the alts. None of them really were good for me

[cunning glade]

I think I'm aiming for 1500 time crystals a min

[quasi warren]

So im just bringing in a ton of coal

[cunning glade]

If I use any other recipes I use 12600 oil

Fun fact I'm at least using 10k oil so far

I think I partially automate diamonds

[quasi warren]

Im using the oil in the blue crater for either rocket fuel or turbo. Cant remember, using the oil near the center of the map for plastic. Using the oil in the left coast for rubber. Not sure what ill use the spire coast oil for yet

[cunning glade]

Oil near blue is for rocketfuel plus the well near red forest gives me 3400 rocket fuel a min iirc and then the oil in tropical area and near the red forest is for plastic and rubber

[ornate saffron]

I aim for 100meters of belt a minute

[cunning glade]

The Coast near Rocky is currently my first power plant that makes 60gw

That will be torn down for diamond

Tho I have that well too which I wanna make into diamond

[quasi warren]

The oil near the desert, and spire coast, im not using yet

[cunning glade]

But I need about 8k coal for aluminum I think so I have too be super careful

[quasi warren]

Thinking of using those for SOMETHING, not sure what yet

[cunning glade]

Not too use all of the coal

If I added that well pretty sure my limit is coal

[cunning glade]

I'm doing 1500 time crystals a min

Purely for more points

And coupons

Tho maybe I can do more

[quasi warren]

Im talking about the 4 oil nodes near the desert, and the oil in the spire coast, im not using. Thinking of combining all that oil for something, any suggestions?

[spice osprey]

I'll probably build a temporary power plant by the eastern coal node like I mentioned earlier. The lake to the north is close on a relative scale, but further away from my base than anything else I've done so far. I'll want some form of transportation to get there, rather than just hoofing it on foot

[ornate saffron]

If that works for you great !

At that point I dont care about points generally

[cunning glade]

Well if there's a limit

But the way I look at it is in the end all I'll have is my points a min too look at

So the more the better

[ornate saffron]

Youll need to go that way anyways soon for ||oil||

But to each there own. I like spreading out like syphilis

[cunning glade]

This game really needs a space age dlc or more

Ig maybe satisfactory plus is what I'm looking for

Tho not multiplayer safe rn

At least this game isn't short like factorio

[quasi warren]

I tried that. It made me scared of screws.

[cunning glade]

I like challenges so I'd prob try that next

[quasi warren]

Belt? Screws. Constructor? Screws. MINER?? oh it's modular. AND IT TAKES SCREWS.

[cunning glade]

Tho I do remember it being screw heavy

[quasi warren]

You wana automate ore? Now you have to deal with concrete byproduct!!

[cunning glade]

Gives us a phase 6 coffee stain please

[quasi warren]

Oh and did I mention to build anything it takes SCREWS???

[cunning glade]

Yeah I played it a tad back before 1.0

[covert quarry]

i have my train connected to train stations but it doesn't seem to dock. Are there any additional steps that need to be done before a tran can dock?

[sterile blade]

Did you power the station?

[covert quarry]

of course, the route is great except its not docking

[sterile blade]

That was a dumb question, never mind it 🤦‍♂️

I guess it's bedtime for me 😅

[covert quarry]

dw about it

[quasi warren]

My biggest problem is I forgot to set the station to load/unload when I build it

[sterile blade]

BTW, if you make a post in #1038092680493801533 you can add pictures. Those can help a lot understanding the issue (and can save you some tipying)

[covert quarry]

i did do that

[covert quarry]

pictures wont help much i think since the route contains stopovers, i appreciate your help

[sterile blade]

Are all the stations facing the right way...?

[gloomy tusk]

@quasi warren

[covert quarry]

yeah, it first goes to a station to load 6 containers then to a second one to load 3. After that it drops all 9 off and repeats the process

[quasi warren]

Hm?

[gloomy tusk]

how did you get 7TW of power what did you usr

[quasi warren]

I think my name is a big hint LOL

[covert quarry]

does it matter if the train station is in front or behind the freight platforms?

[sterile blade]

Just for the sake of clarity about what I meant in regards to stations facing the right way (D is the station)
Ie: === D (correct)
Vs
D === (incorrect)

[normal orbit]

yes

[quasi warren]

I was kinda upset at how much power nuclear produces compared to how much work you put into it. So I found a mod that increases the power generated from nuclear gens. For plutonium, uranium, and ficsonium. And I also use refined power

[covert quarry]

wait where do you read that.

[covert quarry]

so it needs to be in front of the freight platforms i assume?

[normal orbit]

yes, and pointing the correct way

[covert quarry]

thank you

[sterile blade]

I just know that.
When looking at the station from above, it looks like a D (no pun intended) and need to face "away" from the freights

[covert quarry]

ooh i see

[quasi warren]

All these mods kinda line up in a way so that the work i put in for nuclear, for all 3 fuel types. Are not gone to waste

[covert quarry]

thank you

[quasi warren]

And refined power is just a unique way of playing

[sterile blade]

I don't recall wether the game explicitly tells you about it

[normal orbit]

when you place the station theres a huge arrow on the hologram showign its direction

[covert quarry]

yes

[sterile blade]

Oh, that's a nice addition. I guess it came when they started adding arrow for everything (especially blueprints), right?

[normal orbit]

always been there afaik

[ornate saffron]

@fresh folio I like the layout

#screenshots message

i like not seeing 20 refinereis then 40 blenders all in a big manifold lol

[floral bronze]

Hey, my friend has really bad lag on my world although his internet is good; how can we fix this?

my game is running perfectly fine whilst his is unplayable ^

[spark escarp]

How do you do those shiny signs guys?

[ornate saffron]

global illumination .

Totalxclipse has a several lighting videos breaking down some methods

[spark escarp]

alrighty let me see

[spice osprey]

This might be a strange question, but can you describe what type of lag he's expiriencing? Like is it dropping frames and stuttering, or is it rubber banding and desynching?

[floral bronze]

rubber banding and desync

[spice osprey]

Alright. I was just checking to see if it was a hardware issue, but that's definitely a connection issue

I'm not an expert on this by any means, so I'm just guessing here, but are they by chance using a VPN? That is often the cause of issues like this for most multiplayer games

[floral bronze]

nope, 0 vpns

[fresh folio]

they are manifolded lmao

the blueprint is really clean though, using a distribution floor for the logistics

and it totally avoids the fluid weirdness when you get up to 600 m^3

[scarlet rose]

aaaand i just 100%ed Satisfactory

every achievement has been collected

[fresh folio]

you nutted?

[scarlet rose]

what?

[fresh folio]

got the nut

[leaden turret]

phrasing

[scarlet rose]

its a part of the achievement, so yes

[scarlet rose]

what is the pioneer role?

[quasi warren]

I've wondered that

[leaden turret]

#welcome message

[fresh folio]

i put mine in a room full of displays set to white and named it "post nut clarity"

[stone quiver]

Getting the nut is not a hard achievement. I'd say gathering the spheres and hard drive and sloops is more painstaking

[scarlet rose]

the sphere one is by far the most painstaking one

just because of the sheer number of spheres you need to collect

[stone quiver]

Yea nut is pretty easy provided you didn't burn 3000 tickets already on like... screws

[floral bronze]

is it possible to split a liquid into a 5 load balance?

[dense violet]

Realistically you cannot load balance fluids

And definitely not in 1:5

[twilit stag]

does anybody know why my train wont dock? Its driving me insane, the stations are <-----------> (tested >----------<), three freighter stations are set on "load" and receiving items, train timetable has in whitelist said items in the stations

[leaden turret]

package > load balance > unpackage

🌈 tada 🌈

[twilit stag]

its just ragebaiting me

[floral bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

nice embed

[leaden turret]

are your trains facing the correct direction?

[fierce granite]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 so you can post photos

[dense violet]

Might be unpowered

[latent bridge]

Hey, satisfactory has crossplay?

[leaden turret]

yes but not between pc and console

[latent bridge]

aw, thanks

[cunning glade]

Really hope they add it soon

[leaden turret]

addressed in this week's dev stream; tl:dr; is it'd require a full replacement of the online services stack.

[west jackal]

ah, to everyone trying to help me with building circles, i didnt realize holding control let you do smaller rotations, youtube saved the day 🙂

[cunning glade]

Thank god

I'm assuming that means better online performance?

[leaden turret]

meaning it wouldn't happen any time soon because they don't have the resources to throw at it

[cunning glade]

Oh that's lame I'd love better multiplayer preformace tho

[leaden turret]

get job, make it happen 😛 https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/7113819-senior-programmer

[west jackal]

shoot i should send that job listing to my dad

[leaden turret]

they don't do remote work outside of sweden btw

[west jackal]

oh nvm

[jagged nymph]

early game is helll 😭

[west jackal]

also i doubt they would pay enough for him to leave his remote job 😭 but that wouldve been so cool

[leaden turret]

apply anyway, benefit from swedish healthcare 😛

office has gym

[west jackal]

i dont have 5 years of experience

only 3, and i turned down a job in arizona, i dont think id move to sweden, although ive heard the Ikeas there are amazing 😉

[cunning glade]

If anything I'd wanna join star citizen but no offices really close also do they use c++?

[leaden turret]

the job posting specifically mentions c++

[cunning glade]

I've never looked at a job posting for them

If anything star citizen is appealing they have some really cool offices

[west jackal]

yeah its c++ but they want 5+ years of professional work

[swift turret]

most games use a majority of C++

sometimes python and lua

[cunning glade]

Ah yeah I've never done anything super professional

[leaden turret]

game is Unreal Engine 5-based, gotta be able to do more than just use blueprints

[cunning glade]

That's fair

[dense violet]

and you have 3? apply anyway. You never know and barely costs you anything

[leaden turret]

looks at <@&370483737957236737>

being super-professional seems optional.

[swift turret]

lua is great if you wanna do stuff like roblox and mods to games

making mods to minecraft requires lua knowledge

[cunning glade]

Where do they even have offices for this game

[swift turret]

can be remote work

if they have a HQ its in a city where they're located

[cunning glade]

Says remote work is okay sometimes so

[west jackal]

do people make blueprints in a creative world or in their main world?

[swift turret]

either

[west jackal]

like i want to make better looking buildings, but feel it could be easier if i make those in creative

[swift turret]

if I need a specific blueprint for a project I'll make them on the fly

[dense violet]

why? you have all the objects you can use in your real world

[cunning glade]

Flying maybe idk

Yeah star citizen has an office in Texas but fuck that lame ass place way too hot

Also on the other side of the country from me

[normal orbit]

you can make em in creative and use the mk3 blueprint designer if you want the bigger area to work with. then you can copy the files to your actual world and as long as you have the mk1 blueprint designer unlocked, you can place any blueprint even if its make in a designer you dont have access to. just can't edit it.

[cunning glade]

So neither are good options sadly

[west jackal]

flying is the main thing, and unlimited resources

[west jackal]

HEY! Dont diss Tx 😠

[dense violet]

you need the resources in your basic world anyway, build a scout tower.

[west jackal]

scout tower?

[cunning glade]

Unfortunately they're not a smart state um politics wise so no thx

[dense violet]

a tower you can climb. in hte build menu. Or just a ladder

honestly just keep pressing forward through the tutorial until you get your hover pack.

[west jackal]

okay actually i agree

[cunning glade]

Lol

[west jackal]

are you calling everything up to t7 the tutorial? lol

or t8 idr where hoverpack is

[cunning glade]

Yeah phase 4 is when the tutorial ends

[west jackal]

Lol

[dense violet]

through tier 9

[leaden turret]

running joke, entire game is tutorial

[dense violet]

not even a joke. The milestones are basically just kiddy sign posts to direct you to a sand box game post phases

[west jackal]

fair enough

[dense violet]

every tier shows you new things to learn and manage.

If you wanted to you could really ignore all the design and create the sloppiest dirtiest factories that would stlil end up spitting out what you need to go through the tiers.

the point is to learn all the tools you have available to you

[nocturne nebula]

how many geysers are in the game?

[acoustic bear]

there is a map on the calculator

[west jackal]

do you guys put foundations under buildings on blueprints or have seperate blueprint for foundations

[nocturne nebula]

I am nowhere near any, lol

1500m away is the nearest

[dense violet]

generally just buildings

as in, the blueprints will jsut have thebuildings, not foundations

[west jackal]

okay

[normal orbit]

depends on the blueprint. my fuel plant i made buildable blocks with foundations, but for blueprints like big stacks of smelters/constructors/assemblers etc, i dont include the foundations

[west jackal]

yes i saw, im going to do something similiar to that ring of generators i think?

although i might do a decagon or something.. not entirely sure.

[normal orbit]

experiment :p dont be afread to tear things down and redo

think i remade my blueprints for the fuel plant like 15 times before i settled

[white linden]

When does the days since last incident count as decent?

[leaden turret]

if you complete the game in less than a day, that's no different to completing the game with an accident every day

[west jackal]

did you do it in creative or not

[cunning glade]

Just don't die dieing takes more skill than not

[white linden]

Have a 356 days since last incident game here 😄

[normal orbit]

no

[west jackal]

why does nudge not do anything

[cunning glade]

Wym

[west jackal]

nudge keys dont actually nudge?

[white linden]

Is it a water pump?

[west jackal]

no. literally anything

and holding control doesnt let me rotate things by 5 degrees

[jagged nymph]

you have to lock it in place first

[west jackal]

how do you lock it in place

[cunning glade]

H

Unless I'm dumb

[jagged nymph]

uhh i think the hotkey is h

[west jackal]

oh okay

[cunning glade]

Been playing factorio Soo keybinds aren't my strongest rn

[west jackal]

what about the rotation? youtube says holding control lets you rotate by 5 degrees but it doesnt seem to

[cunning glade]

Let's u rotate it in smaller amounts or it should

[west jackal]

oh it works if it doesnt like snap to stuff

[normal orbit]

it does if you aim at a foundation, not the terrain

[cunning glade]

Yeah it needs too be free placed basically

[west jackal]

it doesnt work on the side of a foundation. only on top it seems

[cunning glade]

U can't rotate pumps?

Ig fair but didn't know that

[white linden]

Cant nudge

[cunning glade]

That's what I meant

On the brightside of overproducing if I need more stuff I can just sloop

[nocturne nebula]

how do I change my jetpack fuel pls?

[cunning glade]

Actually wait how many manufacturers do I need

[normal orbit]

click the cog on the jetpack icon

[warm crystal]

HJHMWG come play among us with me and my friend thats the code

[nocturne nebula]

aaaah, thanks

[cunning glade]

How does one know if a sushi belt won't work

Like if the items are over ur fastest belt right

[leaden turret]

take your off-topic spam and go away

[cunning glade]

Cuz I have 48 manufacturers for computers

Low-key wanna sushi belt them doubt I can tho

[warm crystal]

Faaaaaaa

[cunning glade]

Yeah def not 2.5k quickwire

How do y'all make manufacturers inputs look good

[normal orbit]

feed em from below usuallyy

[west jackal]

is there a DD downloader that lets you pull items from the uploaded items

bluetooth item transport? 😛

[drowsy kelp]

No

[west jackal]

aww, would be too cool i guess, the devs just arent like that 😎

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message one example

[cunning glade]

True but then how do u manage all of them underground

Oh I see

[west jackal]

neko that is gorgeous!

[cunning glade]

Okay I like I'd have too make my logstic floor taller

[west jackal]

im taking "inspiration" from that

[cunning glade]

Also agree gorgeous very much like

[west jackal]

what are those neon structures

[nocturne nebula]

am I crazy to sink excess packaged fuel? lol

[normal orbit]

signs

[cunning glade]

My only issue is I need 75 manufacturers

[cunning glade]

Yeah why would u?

For me my packaged fuel runs on a loop that reuses the packages so that would ruin my loop

[nocturne nebula]

I don't need the power but need the plastic, lol

[cunning glade]

So turn the fuel into plastic???

[nocturne nebula]

oh!

[limber moss]

I'm just wondering - is it necessary to make those giant floating concrete flats when building anything larger, or can I get away with something more aesthetically pleasing (and still beat the game)?

[normal orbit]

you can build whatever you like

[nocturne nebula]

I have industrial liquid dispenser full of both the yellow and purple stuff

[cunning glade]

When building something really big it's just helpful too have a flat space but u could make it work however u want

[nocturne nebula]

shall I flush? hahaha

[cunning glade]

The purple stuff is better than oil tbh

[torpid estuary]

anyone else have a sporadic crash when launching the game?

[cunning glade]

U wanna turn all of ur oil into heavy oil residue normally

So if it's backing up from not being used u should make it be used

[torpid estuary]

I think that's the way, too

I tried this time to not use the purple stuff but purple is the way

[cunning glade]

So far there hasn't been a situation where I don't but I'm not phase 5 yet

[west jackal]

why cant you change the undefined tab of blueprints

[warm finch]

you can use the recycled rubber alt recipe to turn rubber and fuel into even more plastic. Same for recycled plastic into rubber.