satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

it's because I'm handsome and talented and not scared of different build patterns

[acoustic bear]

there are a few diff ways to make steel pipe too so you got options in that regard

it's very flexible

[cold berry]

Do you unlock all of the alternate recipes if you get all the hard drives? Or do some become l o s t?

[acoustic bear]

pretty sure you can get them all

[zenith pecan]

I forgot about storage cans full of space elevator doodads 🤣 , loads of sinking going on so I can reclaim all that space.

[covert quarry]

what item gives the most sink points?

[spice osprey]

Ballistic Warp Drive

[winged herald]

so uh how do yall do power when starting in the desert? just made a new save and i see zero bushes and stuff for biofuel

[tall lantern]

dune desert? oasis or waterfalls have plenty

[acoustic bear]

whatever you do, don't put a coupon(s) in a truck, drive it into a blueprinter through an automated gate inside and save the blueprint with the truck inside and then dismantle the truck and load the blueprint again

[winged herald]

dw i wont

i like not cheating

[acoustic bear]

good

[zenith pecan]

That seems like a horribly specific don't-do ...

[acoustic bear]

yeah, don't do it

[ornate saffron]

did you.... do it

[acoustic bear]

https://tenor.com/view/humor-funny-gif-24828647

[zenith pecan]

I just about got #design-and-architecture message going in a bit of a spaghetti factory ....

[ornate saffron]

burn out is real

[zenith pecan]

Will be time to start setting up portals soon enough, I also finally nuked my starter coal and copper facilities.

[zenith pecan]

Yeah I know, takes my mind off my ticket queue, until I'm next back in the office though.

[winged herald]

ah an eve online player, the best game ever

[ornate saffron]

I gotta do the owrst part of my job. Generally speaking we hire a moving company to do installations but work is dead so i need to go. I hate this part.

[zenith pecan]

"My laptop won't charge properly" ~why the hell are you using a dell 45w with a high end asus 🤷‍♂️

[ornate saffron]

just mad3e coffe. time to try and make this factory satis

[zenith pecan]

The joys of undocking my ragnarok, bumping off the keepstar and beating the fastest warp speed at sublight 😱

[zenith pecan]

I'm not kidding #off-topic-media message , it's a bit fast.

[winged herald]

how 😭

i mostly just mine space rocks lol

[zenith pecan]

Bumped off the keepstar on undock and got launched across the system.

[winged herald]

how far did you go lol

[zenith pecan]

About 60au before I was able to slow to a half and align back to where I was going, I was meant to be opening a portal, not flinging across the system.

[winged herald]

lmaoo. this reminds me i need to log in and check my skills, i havent logged on in like a week 🤣

[zenith pecan]

I'm still maxing some titan skills, so 3 months 😜

Oh man, I need to move the singularity factory off the sand 🤦‍♂️ , sod it, I'm going over to number crunch the ammo plant.

[spare prism]

hi

[bitter crow]

Should i build my train tracks elevated from the ground?

[cunning glade]

I think I need too start overclocking everything

Cuz my plastic and rubber factory cause some wild frame drops which I swear it didn't do before

[peak wasp]

hi. does someone know a good spot for a Gothic style Megabase/Gothic style factory city district?

[wary falcon]

what are some good alternate recipes in regards to the production line of electromagnetic control rods

[peak wasp]

Normally I would say yes. In rare cases on the ground but yeah, normally yes, elevated.

[bitter crow]

great! thanks alot

also should i have many trains systems or just one major

[peak wasp]

but may I see how your factory style looks up now? then I could decide better or give you a better Pro/cons list if you want.

[bitter crow]

well, ive been building small, one use factories

not very good at explaining

[crude holly]

#screenshots message Refer to this

Would this be alright?

[unkempt blade]

my gothic inspired factory looks like... #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

I normaly build a big main system with some smaller branches to it.

[cunning glade]

How many machines is too many in a single factory before preformace issues start being a thing

[bitter crow]

very well then, ill do that

thanks!

[bitter crow]

its too monochrome

[bitter crow]

yup, looks good

[peak wasp]

But don't forget, I'm not an expert, that's just how I would do it.

[unkempt blade]

yeah I know, it's to symbolize mans' inhumanity towards man

[bitter crow]

it worked for you 🤷

[bitter crow]

its almost abit hostile

[covert quarry]

at what tier do u unlock power shard recipe? i'm so desperate for it😭

[unkempt blade]

that's just the flying buttress doing it's thing. It's just like Notre Dame

[bitter crow]

frfr

[bitter crow]

MAM research

[covert quarry]

yeah whats that 1 item though like when do you unlock it

[unkempt blade]

MAM is tier 1 then you unlock it IN the MAM

[covert quarry]

time crystals

[unkempt blade]

and just fyi the wiki is really good at these kinds of questions 🙂

[spare prism]

does this server have VC so when people who are LFG can go to when they find a group to play with?

[unkempt blade]

it has #1201555265942724758

[spare prism]

yes i understand that but im asking for vc slots to talk to the group once they answer

is there talk in game like proximity chat

[acoustic bear]

you could just call them in discord

it's not like discord doesn't have a direct VC function that works regardless of game or server

[spare prism]

im just saying if i had a group of people i would have to add them all then add them all into a group vc, so im saying if they had deticateed vc channels, which they can block video permssions if they worried about that

[peak wasp]

Maybe there's a mod but I don't know. but most mods currently don't work on the experimental branch of the game.

[unkempt blade]

no VC on this server but you can make your own for free

[acoustic bear]

it's a headache to moderate and too easy to make your own

[peak wasp]

you dont even need to moderate. and there is soemething called group chat on discord. so you dont evem meed to make a server.

[unkempt blade]

A private server is nice to post updates if people play at different times or miss sessions. These are pretty long saves

[acoustic bear]

you definitely do.

[spare prism]

yea my other server im in they have vcs in server but they dont let anyone use cam or video in them they are just for talking

[tall lantern]

exactly, if groups can make chats and servers, why do the admin folk here need to worry about having one here?

[acoustic bear]

it's not needed here and they don't want to be responsible for it

[summer coral]

anyone have an idea as to why my conveyors on straight mode go slanted after a 90 degree turn?

[hollow turret]

You think it's possible to create a flat world on satisfactory with platforms

[acoustic bear]

that's pretty much what I do

[hollow turret]

Like the entire map?

[tall lantern]

pointless, but it's been done

[acoustic bear]

not quite but I just build big flat planes above the terrain

[unkempt blade]

you could give it a try and report back

[acoustic bear]

lift all my resources up

[hollow turret]

In the process of making it actually

[unkempt blade]

I believe in you. You're amazing and talented and you can totally build a giant flat platform with the best of them

[tall lantern]

hope you're at least using blueprints over zooping, get 36 down at a time instead of 10

[hollow turret]

I am not

[hollow turret]

It's gonna be so fun making a nuclear power plant yay

I haven't made one yet

But when I get back from vacation

[unkempt blade]

Smart. You need to build up a reserve of gamer energy to tackle a project like that

[hollow turret]

Yep
Well I'm making a factory that solves phase 4

[wary falcon]

officially just collected my 100th hard drive... how many are left?

[hollow turret]

W no idea

[unkempt blade]

the wiki knows

[wary falcon]

which wiki is best?

[unkempt blade]

the one in #welcome

[hollow turret]

Need to finish my aluminum factory tho

Need to figure out how spread out the factory so it works properly

Need to get the numbers correct

[bold heron]

if they ever bring a paied dlc what would u like to see ?

[soft marsh]

Finally collected all the alt recipes

[unkempt blade]

remove rocket fuel from the game

[soft marsh]

how dare you

[unkempt blade]

It's too easy. I don't like power being trivialized

[bold heron]

revoming is to much i think they just need to adjust numbers a bit.

[hollow turret]

True

[tall lantern]

maybe tune it down a lil yeah

[bold heron]

well dont use it.

[soft marsh]

I love it lol

[tall lantern]

it also makes ionised mostly redundant because it just doesn't gain you enough (or anything) vs what you spend to make it

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but I want to pay CSS so no one can use it. You asked what I wanted to see in DLC

[soft marsh]

Not that it'll ever happen but honestly if it did happen I might actually not play anymore lmao nuclear sucks and regular fuel is so much work for so little

[bold heron]

i rather would like see a buff to ionized fule, or nuklear or a slight nerf to the fule numbers.
like increase mat costs or increase fule consumtion.

[tall lantern]

nuclear was always fine

[soft marsh]

I cant stand it. Its so much work

RF all the way

[tall lantern]

the only real downsides to rocket fuel are the sheer generator count and managing the piping

[unkempt blade]

Nuclear isn't too rough. It's an appropriate amount of extra effort coming from fuel in line with other new factories you'd be building in phase 4

[tall lantern]

yeah, the jump from fuel or turbofuel to nuclear was an increase in effort for a worthwhile increase in reward

then 1.0 added rocket fuel and boom, easy fuel upgrade for not much more effort

[soft marsh]

I did a small sample of it to see how much work it was and I felt like the amount of processing both before and after wasnt worth the amount of power gained

I can see going from turbo to nuclear, that would probably be worth it

[tall lantern]

pre-1.0 that was the only option

[hollow turret]

Not really

[tall lantern]

if there'd been a proper experimental cycle for 1.0 I imagine rocket fuel would have been reduced a bit

[soft marsh]

any big changes coming in 1.2? Heard something about a new game mode

[tall lantern]

probably, but we dunno much yet

[hollow turret]

Heard something about water trucks

[bold heron]

the question is just how much power do u need. last time i build 3000 rocketfule 180k power.
thats nearly enought to power everything. whitout needing nuklear.

[unkempt blade]

liquid stuff is going to be even more perfect than it already was

[soft marsh]

Im sitting at about 60k power, using about half rn

[tall lantern]

well that depends on how big you build

[hollow turret]

I know that the factory I building gonna be using 42k

Might be more

I think not opening satisfactory calculator on my phone it's not fun

[bold heron]

what i would like to see is use earlyer tier production in later tier recipies so there is a reason to scale production of certain tier items.
rather than a production build in tier 1 last the whole game.

[hollow turret]

That would feel like a whole restructuring of the tiers and map

[unkempt blade]

I may not be understanding you but isn't this how most production chains already grow as the game progresses?

like I'm still using screws as a part of producing stuff in tier 8 or whatever

[tall lantern]

yeah, later recipes do still incorporate earlier items

though later factories don't usually incorporate earlier factories, because independency tends to work better

but that's a playstyle choice

(a very recommended one, but if that's not what you want and you're fine dealing with it, then play how you like)

[eager palm]

Imagine having Factorio-Blueprint-Level incorporation of old production into new chains like they do in 100% runs

[tall lantern]

never played that so tad hard 😅

but if it's basically just copypaste, then that just trivialises the game IMO

[eager palm]

I mean you have to actually build them, it just creates a ghost outline for you

(Early game)

[unkempt blade]

Factorio/DSP type factory games are at a different logistics scale than satisfactory is. It makes at least somewhat more sense to have bigger blueprints in those games

[eager palm]

I think the perfect blueprint size is: most advanced item in game produced from raw materials inside a single cube. But there are many who would say “just make 6 different ones and connect them”

[tall lantern]

with blueprints that size you just have the entire game solved with them

[unkempt blade]

I imagine you could already do this in the Mk3 blueprinter if you got creative 🙂

[tall lantern]

lol no you're not getting a BWD from ores in a 6x6x6

[unkempt blade]

when they first launched BPs there were a lot of people trying to cram as much stuff as they could into a smaller box than we currently have available

[eager palm]

Yeah, the clippers get it done

[unkempt blade]

🤷depends how much you care about clipping, etc.

[tall lantern]

buildings have hard clearance don't they?

[eager palm]

Yeah, but belts and things don’t, and there are some CURSED layouts for maximizing “efficiency”

[tall lantern]

yeah that's fine

[eager palm]

But if it’s all hidden in 4 walls, it’s shroedingers clip

[tall lantern]

all the belts in the world doesn't get you all the production machines in that 6x6x6 though 😛

[eager palm]

Really hard to make computers in a single blueprint tbh. Refineries are big

[stone quiver]

That is absolutely massive for satisfactory lol

You can do computer in a single blueprint. It just involves some clipping

Computer is not very complex

[versed mesa]

👋

[somber hound]

how could i get 110/min splitted into 80/min and 30/min

[stone quiver]

You just adjust clock speed and feed them

[drowsy kelp]

Split it 50:50, after the 30/min fills up the rest will overflow to the 80/m

[stone quiver]

Depends if the 30/min is actually 30 or higher but ya

[dusky vortex]

Is it weird that I kinda want a half-size (12-slot) storage for compact factory layouts?

[wary falcon]

who prefers modular factories or just big mega factories lmk im just curius

[dreamy nest]

im currently building a megafactory

[wary falcon]

im trying to decide if i want to make one single factory for every item in phase 4/5

but maybe that will be too big

[reef basin]

make two groups of machines, one making 80 and one making 30

[reef basin]

megafactories are generally not recommended

[wary falcon]

why is that?

[reef basin]

tons of excess logistical headache for no real advantage. Usually needs to be fully planned from start to finish. Creates more lag

[crude holly]

Trying to figure out a starter factory is driving me crazy

[wary falcon]

ooo i didnt know abt that lag thats a big issue for me...

[golden nexus]

centrilization is results in ineffcient logestics

[wary falcon]

so just to clarify maybe im wrong but modular factoroies would be... idk.... make like 2000 copper ingot somewhere and if i need 1000 copper ingots in a diff factory i can just bring it over?

[golden nexus]

whats the highest belt speed you have used?

[reef basin]

"modular factories" can mean basically anything

my personal preference is "independency", a.k.a "make everything you need in the factory that needs it"

[wary falcon]

currently 780

[golden nexus]

This is what a 2400/min copper ingot factor ylooks like #screenshots message

[wary falcon]

my original idea of a mega factory was make everything you need where u need it? what is a mega factory then?

[reef basin]

yeah this approach I wouldn't recommend either

[reef basin]

megafactory is "make everything in one place"

[golden nexus]

sorry this one #screenshots message

So thats 1 pure node

[wary falcon]

ohhh ok, i was gonna do the independency route then ig

[stone quiver]

Yeah megafactory is people trying to solve world map logistics of finished products mechanic ... with a massive world logistics problem for raw materials

[golden nexus]

this is only a few of the nodes in the grass fields.... #screenshots message

[whole robin]

Is it better to have one maxed belt and one belt that's marginally below it's max running along each other or just to have belts that each are a bit below their max?

[golden nexus]

it depends

[wary falcon]

alright ty guys

[golden nexus]

if you max a belt out and you lockup the output it will never be able to empty

[reef basin]

what does "better" mean in that context?

[stone quiver]

Just always use max belts , there's no benefit to slower belts other than aesthetics and some minor quicker level loading upon startup

[whole robin]

I'm running iron ore from a cluster of iron nodes to my megafactory setup, and i can fit 3 mk 2 miners at 250% on each mk 4 belt, but there's still room for another 30 per minute on each one

[wary falcon]

ok wow im noticing the big consumption of electromagnetic fuel rods is caterium.... and by a landslide... im using like 100 crude oil, 200 copper and 900 CATERIUM... am i using bad recipes?

[zenith pecan]

You can push caterium production with the pure, or if you're patient with refinery spam, the tempered recipe.

[unkempt blade]

you should ditch the belts and just use factory carts to move whatever it is

[reef basin]

slower belts usually make manifolds startup time longer, not shorter

[fair thunder]

So my friend owns the world that we play on but I want to put some blueprint saves I got off satisfactory calculator onto it, is it possible for me to add them on my own or does he have to do that?

[simple stream]

anyone tryna play long term

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[rugged geyser]

can i make a blueprint in a creative world and transport it into a normal world or nah?

[versed cosmos]

yeah you can move blueprints between worlds. im sure someone here can explain the details but its just moving files from one save to another

[west jackal]

but they look sick asf

[west jackal]

im pretty sure that the blueprints get stored locally per save, so he would need to put them in his local save folder

[fair thunder]

uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhgggggggggg

[zenith pecan]

Ok?

[delicate gate]

I just managed to teleport trains in 1.1... And it's even more buggy than before, because now you get bluetooth power as well from it lol

[west jackal]

...teleport?

[delicate gate]

you drive on a track and suddenly you are on the other side of the map

does require a train station as well as a freight station though. Basically the same bug that you can use to duplicate miners using buggy blueprints

you put down a truck station in a designer, save it, don't clear it though! Now place the blueprint near the teleporter entrance station (train station with at least 1 freight station) and connect the train station via belt. Now save the blueprint in the designer again. If you now place the blueprint you just saved it also includes the station and 2 of the truck stations, driving into the entrance station instead teleports you to the newly placed blueprint station

the stations will also still share power as they are connected via rails. If you dismantle the entrance station your game crashes, so be careful

[west jackal]

oh thats ..interesting

how did you discover that

[delicate gate]

i was trying to figure out how to teleport trains since the original exploit with clipping a 2 segment rail into the blueprint designer to link them no longer works as you can't place the rail. And i already knew the bug with the truck stations existed, so i figured it was worth a shot lol

you can pull any building with a belt connection into a blueprint that way, even miners and the space elevator

but multiple space elevators are extremely buggy and the blueprints lag like hell when placing them

and the truck stations tend to stick around as map markers, even if you dismantle them. Might have to use SCIM to remove those

[stone quiver]

Waiting for my buddy to finish up nuclear pasta... he decided 30+ pasta for the build and apparently it's been weeks long build for the scale of it. It'll be nice to get teleporters up

[acoustic bear]

I think something in my save might be borked. my performance has tanked recently

going from 120fps locked to like barely able to hold 60fps and stuttering hardcore

[drowsy kelp]

18000 copper ingots is a lot

Wait no

36000

[stone quiver]

Yeah 60% of the map copper and like 40% iron or something

Foundries for days

We just need like 3. For portals. But now we will have enough to teleport the whole map

[drowsy kelp]

Foundries sound inefficient for the amount of ingots needed

Foundries are 1:1, using alternates you can get more ingots for each ore

[crude holly]

I'm in phase 2 are there any good recipes I should try to shoot for?

[scarlet rose]

i would go for the pure ingot recipes

assuming you unlocked the refinery

[merry vapor]

Can resource nodes dry up permanently?

[acoustic bear]

no

[scarlet rose]

no, all resource nodes are infinite

[acoustic bear]

resources are infinite just bandwidth limited

[merry vapor]

ah ok, ty for the quick responses

[scarlet rose]

oil, water, iron, copper, if you can extract it, its infinite

[scarlet rose]

the only thing that is limited, is how much material per minute you can extract

[merry vapor]

Is it smart to make a permanent base, or is this game gonna force me to leave later on?

[acoustic bear]

you're gonna move around the map

don't be afraid to move the hub it's only 20 iron ore, the most basic resource imaginable. You can get that by sneezing

[scarlet rose]

there is nothing wrong with having a permanent base, everyone does, but eventually you're gonna have to expand and move around the map if you want you progress

[merry vapor]

okie dokie

[acoustic bear]

if you run all the way through phase 5, you'll end up with several large factories probably

like you'll surprise yourself

[scarlet rose]

yeah, i have one in every area, i have like three or four in the swamp alone

[acoustic bear]

yeah, I tend to build a factory for each phase it seems

and I've moved to each starting biome because it seems by the time one phase is done, I've mostly used up that biome area

[scarlet rose]

dude i used to do the same, like each floor in my old factory represented a new phase

but now that im a bit more used to the game, i just improve the efficiency, upgrade conveyor belts, miners, that sort of stuff

and ofc, i aim to make my factories as compact as possible, while maintaining efficiency

[versed cosmos]

miners, not minors

we made it illegal to have them in factories a while ago

[acoustic bear]

I'm currently tearing down part of my phase 3 factory and I'm laughing at what I thought was "good" back then

I was super impressed with myself building it and now I'm laughing

[scarlet rose]

yeah i did the same, i sometimes go back to my first world and go "what the fuck was i smoking back then-"

[spare prism]

Ik why I quit satisfactory before

It’s making my head hurt…..THE NUMBERS MASON

[scarlet rose]

use the satisfactory modeler if all you want to do is build and design

[stone quiver]

Iron is near limitless , and it's not very enjoyable making 3x as many refineries and needing to be near water . It may look more "efficient" on paper but it's about a truckload more misery to setup

[spare prism]

Yea but I’m starting out so I don’t have access to stuff

[scarlet rose]

wdym? its free on steam

its a software

[somber hound]

can you still use a manifold set up if one of the buildings in underclocked

[versed cosmos]

yes

you can pretty much always use a manifold

[stone quiver]

Manifolds have nothing to do with clock speed. It's just feeding machines and when they full they say no thank to more

[versed cosmos]

i cant imagine a situation in which youd be forced to load balance

[grim carbon]

i need some help with my power usage

[scarlet rose]

do tell

[grim carbon]

i have unlocked the fuel powered generator

[versed cosmos]

the answer is you need to build more power

[grim carbon]

and hooked it up, got it working great

so i removed all my coal powered gens

which was a big mistake

[versed cosmos]

so just rebuild the coal power

[scarlet rose]

never remove something, always replace it

[grim carbon]

so i've resetup my coal powered gens

[versed cosmos]

power it up on some biomass to get it going

then use that to power up your fuel gens

[grim carbon]

i've put 3 water extractors in the water, and 4 coal gens

hooked up the water and coal

[scarlet rose]

i love how this is just the agreed upon method, its basically a defibrator but for power grids

[versed cosmos]

for coal power, yes

[grim carbon]

i put a biomass burner with biomass in it, and connected it via a power pole

[versed cosmos]

for bigger setups, youd need 100 biomass generators

[acoustic bear]

sloop out some augmenters

[grim carbon]

3 water, 4 coal gens isn't that big

[scarlet rose]

Joe how many hours do you have on the game?

[grim carbon]

but too big

[versed cosmos]

800

[somber hound]

for a manifold is the best way to get it running is to first have no power for the first buildings let them overflow than give power and wait till the second buildings overflow aslwell?

[versed cosmos]

just turn it on and wait

itll fill up

[grim carbon]

i turn it on but the fuse keeps blowing

[versed cosmos]

disconnect it from everything else

just get the coal power running then start connecting other things up

[grim carbon]

i tried to connect it only to one water extractor

the fuse keeps blowing

[versed cosmos]

so your consumption is higher than your production

more biomass burners to get the coal generators going

[grim carbon]

i just connected the biomass burner to one water extractor

[floral bronze]

how can I make a manifold; 200 into 40 40 40 40 40?

[versed cosmos]

make it a manifold

[floral bronze]

wicked summary

[versed cosmos]

you want to load balance it

prime numbers are tough to load balance for

[floral bronze]

yes I know how to make a manifold, I just dont understand how to make it from 200

[versed cosmos]

just... make the manifold?

just a line of splitters

[acoustic bear]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QJfN0SHxTu0

[versed cosmos]

yes ik how to load balance for prime numbers

[acoustic bear]

use a smart splitter and you can route the overflow off to somewhere else

[floral bronze]

dont have smart splitters sadly so im trying to work without

[versed cosmos]

you dont need smart splitters for a manifold

it is literally just a line of splitters

[acoustic bear]

you can split it 2x and then take those 2 lines and split them 3x and route a single one of those back into the beginning

[versed cosmos]

posted something in #screenshots for load balancing 5 outputs

[floral bronze]

awesome.

thank you

[versed cosmos]

lemme know if u need it explained

[floral bronze]

I should be good, im just low on space as this factory is a proper mess

[versed cosmos]

u always need more space lol

[floral bronze]

I mean, it was bound to happen considering im making adaptive control units

[acoustic bear]

you have 2 kilometers above you available

go tall

[floral bronze]

im already going up and up and up lmao

its fine though, I will improvise

[versed cosmos]

might also help to not make everything in the same place

idk where youre building but if youre training things in you could do a lot of your processing before loading stuff onto the train

[floral bronze]

I am like very far from the hub

[versed cosmos]

so instead of delivering copper ore or ingots u make it into cable or sheets or whatever you need

then load that on the train

[floral bronze]

I am making the entire components first before sending them to places

so im making modular engines instead of sending rotors, rubber and smart plates.

[spare prism]

That’s nevermind

[nocturne nebula]

this game I love man ... its so satisfying upgrading factories

[floral bronze]

until you need 290 concrete....

[nocturne nebula]

thats notta lot

[cunning glade]

where can i get help with a crash report

[floral bronze]

290 per minute...

[nocturne nebula]

slugs 🙂

n sloops if you are really keen, lol

[floral bronze]

90 limestone for 30 concrete.

[versed cosmos]

you need the wet concrete alt recipe

[nocturne nebula]

I need 400 wire per min for my 4 machines making stators fully clocked

but I don't have mk4 belts yet

[versed cosmos]

so dont put it all on one belt

use two mk3s with 200 wire each

[floral bronze]

what does bro need so many stators for

[nocturne nebula]

also, only have 3 machines making 75pm, lol

[west jackal]

Gosh the devs did such a good job (on everything) but the sam ore node is sooo gorgeous

i remember when sam was pointless

[cunning glade]

what biome is most copper dense

[eternal island]

my friend refuse to play with me because he said he cant understand my base and feel really headache(ó﹏ò｡)

[median geyser]

How do people transition from source nodes to proper logistics? For example, from a miner to a factory, without just having a spaghetti of belts extending from all the nodes? Im still early-mid game, and Ive gotten the hang of making relatively clear lines and such in my buildings, but from node to belt wall input is still 🍝

[nocturne nebula]

even better when we don't have to self craft the fluctuators, lol

I think that should be earlier in the game though

[nocturne nebula]

I run foundations along the grid ... have walls 2 high so I can sprint down it too and jump for speed ... on top of that I have conveyor walls every 7 foudnations which is the perfect distance for your conveyor connections

I find the conveyor walls easier to snap to than the ladder thingie

(Stackable Conveyor Pole)

[west jackal]

LOL i just spent the past half hour crafting fluctuators, still need another 300 for the upgrades i want when i get back to base

[nocturne nebula]

😄

you can tap space bar it helps but still tedious

[merry vapor]

Can someone show me an example picture of their wire management on their base? Im boutta get an aneurism lowkey

[west jackal]

yeah i also normally watch tv while i play so it wasnt too bad

[west jackal]

what wire management 😉

[stone quiver]

Wire management?

[merry vapor]

[stone quiver]

Bruh that's like tenth circle of aesthetic hell.

[west jackal]

LOL

[surreal ingot]

soon to be 15/m heavy modular frames factory!
#screenshots message

[nocturne nebula]

documataries FTW

[scarlet rose]

what is this "wire management" you speak of? that some kinda update or something?

[west jackal]

the biggest issue is that its an inpure, i mean i have a mk2 at 200% but it still is only 30/m

[scarlet rose]

did they add wire management to the game?

[stone quiver]

Means making it look nice

[nocturne nebula]

I simply tapped an impure too .. I put a regular storage container in the line so there would always be plenty when in the mood

[stone quiver]

You can slap a steel beam underneath your structure and a wall plug but no matter what, power line has to eventually come out and to a power line

[nocturne nebula]

then highest tier belts so when crafting I can get more coming to me when ready

[west jackal]

why 3 towers? i mean it looks very nice, just curious if its split between them

[surreal ingot]

i can only make 10 for now (belt limitations)

so i split into 3 groups of 5

it also makes certain belts easier to use

[west jackal]

makes sense

[scarlet rose]

before i say anything, what phase are you on?

[surreal ingot]

*easier logistics

[surreal ingot]

3

[stone quiver]

HMF is so many people's first big project

[scarlet rose]

okay nevermind then, it looks good

i myself am producing 75 heavy modular frames per minute

[stone quiver]

I made a spaghetti motor factory , was a smart idea when I needed 3000+ motors

[west jackal]

wtf

[scarlet rose]

holy shit-

[surreal ingot]

i need tier 5 belts and mk 3 miners to get up to 15/m

[surreal ingot]

also why

[scarlet rose]

the question isn't "why"... its "why not"

[surreal ingot]

why put yourself thru that pain

[scarlet rose]

anyway, to answer your question, its because i have free will, and decided to use it

[surreal ingot]

more than 1 HMF per second

[scarlet rose]

what? how many do you produce?

i also produce 180 electromagnetic rods per minute

[acoustic bear]

I've got at least 50 hmf per min as well

it's not hard when you use the right recipes and use the blueprinter

[west jackal]

not near that much i think i normally do like 10ish

[scarlet rose]

im saying this right now, that is not enough

[acoustic bear]

steeled frame + encased beams + encased heavy frames

[nocturne nebula]

I finally automate fluctuators but now super low on mercer spheres!

[west jackal]

tbh it was before the blueprinter / without the blueprinter

[surreal ingot]

somebody should automate 134.34 nuclear pasta per minute.

[scarlet rose]

i don't mean to sound like a deusch, but 10 HMF per minute will not get you far

[west jackal]

do you need to automate them?

[scarlet rose]

its great towards the start, but once you reach phase 3 and onwards, 10 is not enough

[nocturne nebula]

first thing I did when unlocking the manufacturer, lol

[acoustic bear]

you can boil HMFs down to concrete, steel pipe mostly using the proper recipes

[scarlet rose]

this however is my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt

if you can make 10 HMF per minute work, great

[west jackal]

idk what you mean, 10/min was fine, i do modular factories, so i make more everywhere that needs them

[scarlet rose]

modular factories? what does that mean?

[west jackal]

all the hmf were really needed for were train and manufacturers i think

[acoustic bear]

steeled frame + encased industrial pipe + heavy encased frame = making HMF from steel pipe and concrete and reinforced plates

[west jackal]

plus this was a long time ago 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic bear]

you end up using the steel pipe in the all the steps

[scarlet rose]

and fused modular frames

[west jackal]

thats my point. i made more hmf at the fmf factory

[scarlet rose]

ohhhh

[west jackal]

thats what i meant by modular, sorry i saw someone use that term

[acoustic bear]

I'm telling you, use the above recipes, they all overlap considerably so you basically just end up making steel pipe and using it in 3 places

[west jackal]

yeah those look great, i normally do encased pipe and heavy frame

[acoustic bear]

and there are a bunch of alts for steel pipe

so you can be really flexible

[spare prism]

I’m doing my first phase on the space station

[west jackal]

space station?

[stone quiver]

HMF isn't in that high demand. One manufacturer is all you need. Unless you like... "only play while online" otherwise any amount of automation will fill a box

[west jackal]

that was my point, you need more hmf for the fmf factory but i make more there, so 10 was plenty for its own factory

[stone quiver]

Motors is important to stockpile bc eventually everyone drops 100 fuel gens down and is thankful they had a box on hand

[west jackal]

100?

i think i usually do 240, the issue is more of, the refineries take motors too 😠

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message last i checked this isnt how conveyers work

[west jackal]

does it still move?

[scarlet rose]

as per the laws of satisfactory... that is exactly how they work

[cunning glade]

yes its working

[scarlet rose]

if the materials are moving, it works

[west jackal]

interesting

[scarlet rose]

no further questions asked

[stone quiver]

I mean 240 is 150kMW. That's certainly enough to handle many many projects

[cunning glade]

i hate it lowkey

[tidal dock]

Is there a way to see which alt recipes you have without going line by line in the parts menu?

[acoustic bear]

150kMW is pretty much enough to get to phase 5

[west jackal]

uh you sure 240 is 150kMW?

[cunning glade]

u can build ceiling mounts on rail signals peak

[west jackal]

last i checked its 60kMW

you have them at 250%

i dont want to waste 700 slugs

[cunning glade]

but u cant place them on beams okay

[nocturne nebula]

big spiders SCARE me!

[stone quiver]

In tier 9 power shards are free basically so it's not really a hard decision

Less building more clocking

[nocturne nebula]

why must they jump at mah faaaaaaaaace?

[white dawn]

Pedantry time! It's gigawatt (GW). No such thing as a "kMW". :)

[stone quiver]

Yes but you can certainly say 150,000 MW

[white dawn]

Sure, that's inline with what the game reports on its panels

Just runs into problems when you then try to abbreviate that to a made-up unit like "kMW". :)

[hazy topaz]

Question! In the early game, I have 3 MK1 normal iron nodes, should I use each individual node to produce iron rods, plates and screws?

Or combine them all into one/two systems

[stone quiver]

Bruh it's just 150k. MW.

[white dawn]

That's not how SI units work though. :)

I agree it's not a huge deal in the context of a video game, but there's also no reason not to use the proper terms. :)

You wouldn't say a hard drive has 4kGB capacity, etc

(and honestly people would look at you weird if you said it has 4,000 GB capacity, too, though since the game itself reports power that way, that's at least consistent. :)

[white dawn]

IMO: make however much you want of each resource. If that means you can double up on the nodes, great! Feel free to do so. If some production of yours uses up a while node: also great!

[west jackal]

Sure but T9 is a long way off

[west jackal]

yeah i hated saying kMW

[white dawn]

I wouldn't bother trying to think of it in terms of using up a whole node, though. Just make whatever you need, and don't worry about maxing out nodes. It's a huge map, with a ton of resources out there.

[stone quiver]

Forgive me I'll type all the 0s that everyone desires

[hazy topaz]

Alright thanks!

[west jackal]

or um, say GW and TW 😛

[white dawn]

I would further recommend, btw: also don't bother ever expanding existing factories. When you need more, just spin up a whole new factory line. (Which might maybe take ore from a previously-used node, if there's spare.) Same amount of Factory in the long run, and a lot easier

Though lots of folks do like expanding factories; that too is very personal-preference

[nocturne nebula]

How many Somersloops are on the map?

[white dawn]

Though IMO never-expand™ is a lot easier in the long run

[white dawn]

About 108 I believe

[nocturne nebula]

cool

[white dawn]

!wikisearch somersloop

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=somersloop

[nocturne nebula]

I plan to use them on the last stage of big builds

[west jackal]

can you ||make those too|| lol

[white dawn]

^ wiki can fact check me. :D

[nocturne nebula]

lol

[latent gate]

Nope

[nocturne nebula]

would be handy!

[west jackal]

would be way too op

[latent gate]

Given the power cost?

[nocturne nebula]

I went on a hunt, thanks to a slooped machine came back with over 100 power shards

[latent gate]

Not really

[west jackal]

power cost of what

[nocturne nebula]

and a few too many spider remains!

[latent gate]

Overslooping almost quadruples power cost

[nocturne nebula]

that reminds me ... I need more POWAH!

[west jackal]

is overslooping when you put sloops in the machine

[white dawn]

Somersloops also gives you free power. Being able to automate their production would mean there's no point to any other power source in the game

Sure, slooping production machines would add more power requirements but you've also just given yourself literally infinite power. :)

[west jackal]

even without that though. just sloop nuclear rod production or something lol

[latent gate]

Plutonium alt recipe slooping gives you more free power than the machine does

[stone quiver]

Slooping is a broken mechanic but it adds some color to the story

[white dawn]

Honestly you don't even need to do that to be able to make more power than 99.99% of players will ever need

[warm finch]

How is it broken? It's working exactly as the devs intended

[west jackal]

again, infinite sloops would be op

[stone quiver]

It cuts the progression time for the space elevator phases in half. Just by having 4.

[white dawn]

IMO it's fine given the limited amounts. A bit of a cheat, sure (when compared to pre-1.0) but I still say they're nicely balanced

[warm finch]

Then don't use it? It's not being forced on you or any one else. and it's not cutting phases in half. that's not how it works.

[latent gate]

Bruh

[white dawn]

I know there's folks who don't like them at all on account of the cheatiness, but I've always felt that complaint is a bit overblown

[latent gate]

Relax

[west jackal]

he wasnt complaining, he was just saying infinite would be op

[warm finch]

it's a non-complaint. People don't like it? Don't research it, now it doesn't exist.

[west jackal]

bc i asked about if they were a thing in t9 yk

[stone quiver]

Moreso that it creates high variability for a "standard" experience

[white dawn]

To be fair, that in particular isn't a great argument IMO. A new player coming in is going to research everything they can, before even knowing how they feel about the mechanic. The folks who don't like them generally do so because they feel the game is unbalanced because of it, and the standard user experience is therefore going to be unbalanced

For folks who don't like them and care about the balance (and some degree of "purity" around the game's original intended experience/limitations) it can be a bit galling

(not saying anyone's wrong about how they feel about them, good or bad. Just elaborating on a viewpoint which exists. 🍻 )

[latent gate]

I’m not sure gatekeeping the game that way is really productive though

Disliking it is one thing

[warm finch]

That is honestly not a great argument or much of one to stand on, as it is exactly how the devs intended the game to work (the standard experience). Using it or not using it is still up to the player and is not forced onto the player. The same for mercer spheres. It's there, you can use it if you want, as the devs intended. Or you don't have to, the game allows you to play without it, as the devs intended.

The same applies for alternative recipes, it's all part of how the game is designed and the indented gameplay by the devs. Ultimately it is up to the devs how they want to gatekeep the gameplay and they've done an EXCELLENT job of making the game as broadly playable as possible for people to choose how THEY want to play the game.

[leaden turret]

people be XKCD-386ing, but at least they XKCD-386ing on-topic

[white dawn]

Eh, I'd disagree that it's gatekeeping, for a game which otherwise has no "pressure" and has a lot of qol stuff built in. But I'm just of to sleep now so, alas, cannot continue my end of the discussion. :)

[latent gate]

Honestly, I’d just as soon abandon the discussion

[white dawn]

Heh, ditto re: sleep alas. Would like to continue but the body's needs beckon. Cheers! 🍻

[latent gate]

I have never felt so called out for texting in bed

[white dawn]

And, I hope, without much emotional attachment. :D

[latent gate]

Well played

[leaden turret]

point of XKCD-386ing is people get emotionally attached to being right

[white dawn]

Heh, I feel like we've been Good Humans™ tonight. Anyway, about that sleep...

[stone quiver]

Oh sloops remind me of alien power, time check the reqs

[nocturne nebula]

how much headlift does a refinery provide pls?

[stone quiver]

10m

[nocturne nebula]

I have pipes about 3 walls high above the exits and its not leaving without pumps

aaaah, will have to lower, huh?

[stone quiver]

Just pump it

[nocturne nebula]

its a bit busy wioth the pumps, lol

I was hoping for a cleaner look

[stone quiver]

If you're entirely flat, then yes, no need to pump

You may notice so issues if anywhere along the way it goes >10m

[nocturne nebula]

here they are : #screenshots message

[spare prism]

I’m always right

[stone quiver]

I had 4 refineries hooked up to a tower of blenders , very tall. Even with numerous pump in the "tower" portion of the pipe, the furthest back refinery would not move HOR without a pump.

Sometimes pump is just the way without understanding why

Any reason it has to go up before out?

You're not using the space behind the refineries it seems

[willow pond]

my justification for completely clearing all the vegetation and rocks from the map: stopping the beans from getting stuck

also it's hilarious to have a stupid amount of leaves & wood on standby

[hybrid nymph]

hey guys

I just got done with my homework

I am free to play satisfactory for the rest of the night

[wraith widget]

will foundation ever be able to normally curve like belts/rails 👀 or impossible

[hybrid nymph]

there are curved foundations

from the awesome shop

[wraith widget]

i dream of placing foundations like the auto-connecting blueprint belts do 🙏

[willow pond]

running around the map with explosive rebar like a maniac

[acoustic bear]

no rifle with turboammo?

no cluster nobelisks?

[willow pond]

passive mode, and i'm gathering all the veg, so it's smart bombing the gas pillars mostly

got tired of the constant minor heart attacks

the resource management is more than enough fun for me

[full escarp]

sad spooder noises

[willow pond]

even in passive mode they scare the shit outta me

CSS needs to license them out

[sudden pilot]

why are most of my pumps not working? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1473572738319913042

[hybrid nymph]

let me see

I think I see the issue

pipe headlift does not stack, but it has headlift but it isn't enuff

you need to put another headlift valve near the top

[sudden pilot]

thx

ill give that a shot

[hybrid nymph]

welcome see if that works

[sudden pilot]

im assuming a headlift valve is a valve?

[hybrid nymph]

the headlift valve is a valve yes

[sudden pilot]

alr

would seem to have no effect

[hybrid nymph]

hmm

what tier are you on?

[sudden pilot]

teir 9, just rebuilding my fuel power plant

[gloomy tusk]

@stone summit since when did you play satisfactory 😭

[wraith widget]

do you put your manifold inputs split to the outside of a machine line, or through the middle? or vice versa

always curious i like having input in the middle

[gloomy tusk]

i dont understand what you mean sorry 😅

[wraith widget]

like in a line of 6 constructors, 3 on each side, would you put the input into the middle with splitters, or come in from the outside and output middle

[gloomy tusk]

i would put them in a row and not do that so its easier

[hybrid nymph]

nice, I'm on tier 8

[wraith widget]

i would agree until it becomes over 10 of them 😵‍💫

[gloomy tusk]

agree to disagree

i put it in a row till the end

[hybrid nymph]

I wonder if there's a mod that amdds in more tiers?

[gloomy tusk]

isnt that satisfactory+

[wraith widget]

is there a mod that makes machines overheat and need coolant

that'd be pain but i was thinking of that today

[willow pond]

that sounds as bad as a mod where you need the right gauge wiring

[gloomy tusk]

hopefully not 🙏

[uncut crescent]

finally back on the game after a long hiatus; keen to see what v1+ has in store

[wraith widget]

cant overclock without coolant or else overheat

[willow pond]

definitely nicer

[sudden pilot]

that sounds like torture but also a neat challenge

[uncut crescent]

how so?

[willow pond]

no color gun

[uncut crescent]

lol don't even remember 😄

[willow pond]

i think the biggest change was moving the smart splitters from tiers over to the caterium tree

[wraith widget]

when overheating they only produce like 50%, and there could be whole system of water being worse than others etc

if i were a modder id do it for fun

[sudden pilot]

you know what i might just go and make that

[willow pond]

i still like my mod idea but nobody's made it that i can tell

[wraith widget]

whats your mod idea

[willow pond]

making each species actively hostile to each other

[wraith widget]

id install that so they kill eachother and i dont go through 500 rifle ammo

[willow pond]

yea, not just the stingers being hostile

[wraith widget]

i was holding off on smokeless powder, but i decided to just use 1 drone and it changed my life

now i go out and shoot with my automatic

[willow pond]

i've also got other ideas

mount/taming tree

imagine leaping around on a big green stinger in a saddle

been trying to think of dumb Goat Simulator stuff to bring over too

[drowsy kelp]

I’ll take riding a hog over a spider

[unique trail]

how you can controle the real output on a balancer? for example you need 750 out on every output

[raven pine]

So after around 150 hours in the game first play through (tier 8) everything is a massive mess nothing seems to be where I need it and seem to be bottle necked on supply. I know nothing is running at 100% efficiency, the one train track I have running is a shambles. Also when I look at what I now need to create for my current goals my head near damn explodes

[unique trail]

I can realy understand you

[rugged ore]

are fluids really that complex or do people just not use valves

[unique trail]

depends, you have to pay attantion to something

[rugged ore]

cuz like 90% of the issue is the fact that pipes arent one directional and with valves they are
other than that just make sure its balanced

[unique trail]

i have no experience with valves but i am not so far yet in the game

only use oil for power and this works fine

[rugged ore]

would highly recommend 270 oil gives 20gw for free

[unique trail]

what about my question?

[balmy orbit]

what do yall do for points in the awesome shop? chuck random items? or do u make something dedicated to feeding it

[scarlet rose]

i set smart splitters to overflow most of the time

but i also have them around most factories in case i have things i do not want in my inventory

[unique trail]

how you can controle the real output on a balancer? for example you need 750 out on every output

[scarlet rose]

if you want to control the output, why not tweak the machines?

if that makes sense

[unique trail]

i mean the output of the ballancer

[scarlet rose]

no clue how it works

[green fiber]

At maximum flow the mk2 pipes have actual trouble staying at that speed inside pipe networks with junctions

As for valves, theres a bug that can happen when you have too many of them after another where headlift just gets set to 0

[wraith widget]

were you using online calculator for your builds, that is why you dont know wtf going on in the factory

i fell into that when i first started, but its much better to just go by what youve got infront of you instead of the calculator

[scarlet rose]

they're not complex

they're more so... irritating at times

[swift turret]

people just dont use valves

[dreamy nest]

i didnt know valves existed for several milestones

[scarlet rose]

same

[sterile blade]

Some would say you haven't been missing out on much 😅

[swift turret]

Same reasoning with "sloshing fluids"

[sterile blade]

Huh?

[scarlet rose]

yeah i got all the way to finishing phase 5 without using valves once

[sterile blade]

What do you mean?

[swift turret]

Saying people arent missing much is the same way people complain about it

[sterile blade]

I still don't get what you mean and what sloshing has to do with it

[obsidian zodiac]

physics are hard guys

[toxic lichen]

just let us manually suck the water out of the pipes
ez pz

[tall lantern]

isn't that just the Flush lever

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'

[sterile blade]

If only we cold do sushi with fluids...

[obsidian zodiac]

more like a mom getting snot out of a baby's nose

i like that idea

[toxic lichen]

feel like that would be a nightmare

[obsidian zodiac]

lets do that

[toxic lichen]

NO

[sterile blade]

Actual idea: put a little "faucet" somewhere in the "flush UI", with a warning not to drink the flushed fluid or something
Purely aestetic and only in UI, but might be enough to get the message across

[toxic lichen]

allow me to become the pipe

[sterile blade]

One man's nightmare is another man's dream~
[Confucius, chapter 420, paragraph 69]

[toxic lichen]

ill turn you into a pretzel

[obsidian zodiac]

in a sense, we already are pipes

[toxic lichen]

let me eat slugs

[obsidian zodiac]

ive been pitching power slug sour candy since i started but apparently food needs to be safe and approved to be sold or whatever

[sterile blade]

"Son, you need to put veggies in your pipe..."

[toxic lichen]

surely ficsit will allow us to be test subjects

[sterile blade]

Tbh, SF slugs would make for great gummies 😋

[obsidian zodiac]

right? or maybe like gushers

[versed mesa]

Hi good morning all

[dreamy nest]

mornin

[versed mesa]

❤️

Happy gaming day 😂

[dreamy nest]

tis a workday for me 🙁

[versed mesa]

Damn 😭

[versed mesa]

Sucks tobe you then 😂

[dreamy nest]

🤣 🤣

im up too early to go to work so im messing about in minecraft some

[versed mesa]

Am unemployed sadly 😭

[dreamy nest]

thats rough, sorry

job market is trash here rn

[versed mesa]

Yeah i got a disability

That sucks

I think its like most of the workd

[dreamy nest]

i operate under the delusion that its gotta be better in some places 🤣 '

[versed mesa]

Ive got High functioning Autism and been struggling and trying to recover from serious bad mental health depression

[dreamy nest]

im sorry

[versed mesa]

Tbh here UK i think is not good also

[dreamy nest]

unfortuante

so what are you up to in satisfactory lately dynasty?

[versed mesa]

Its fine I just got todo what I can i don't even get of much theys days is rare I prefer to be at home for now atleast

[bold heron]

if they bring a randome nodes gamemode, what would be the best starting area as just enviorment matters ?

[versed mesa]

Ive not played in several months or so I needed a break to try get my self right more it was not break on my head in away

[dreamy nest]

ah

well maybe today is the day!

[frail sleet]

• fluid parameters are not saved properly, so when you load a save, pipes stall for a period of time. If you're trying to push max flow through a pipe, it's impossible for them to catch up and recover that lost flow

[versed mesa]

Nope I am keep getting the urge to play and do some deep organising and work try do things way better

[dreamy nest]

organizing in game or irl 🤣

[versed mesa]

@dreamy nest am thinking on returning when 1.2 comes out and mods are updated hopefully

[dreamy nest]

im sure you'll enjoy that

[versed mesa]

Irl is out the question at the moment but I ment in game

[dreamy nest]

ah

[versed mesa]

@dreamy nest I paused at phase 5 lol

[dreamy nest]

got plenty of catching up to do!

[versed mesa]

Well factories need to be done proper for ne to have great Automation specially with delivery transports that I'd more like to get sorted out

[dreamy nest]

transport can be a problem if you dont put proper forward planning into it

[versed mesa]

@dreamy nest this is my story when first started and this is my first play through i started in green lands and nit fully knowing what todo i tried my best but I never started with foundation so most of my stuff is being made in this one spot which is great mess lmfao

[dreamy nest]

a large portion of the game for me is tearing down old work to optimize it

[versed mesa]

I also was hand crafting for abit as well before eventually i set up Automating lol

[versed mesa]

I get it this is what I am needing todo and work out what Nodes are what with best Nodes in serton locations of the map so thats going to take time

[dreamy nest]

i mean, your opinion on that will change over time

and you'll refactor, thats just normal

[tall lantern]

rebuilding isn't a requirement, mind

[versed mesa]

Let's just say I had just set things up just as to get a taste of each production and to learn from there and help from here

[tall lantern]

leaving a working factory alone is usually a better idea than tearing it down, even if it doesn't meet your new standards

[dreamy nest]

thats true says the person who hasnt advanced a research in 3 weeks cuz she tore down all her manufacturing to do it over in a neater fashion 🤣 🤣

[tall lantern]

yeah, that's the risk

[versed mesa]

Thats true maybe you can build new and destroy later

[tall lantern]

you end up spending more time rebuilding and actually progressing

[versed mesa]

Lol

[dreamy nest]

there are plenty of nodes, you never have to destroy anything if you dont want to

[tall lantern]

why destroy though?

[versed mesa]

Space

😂

[tall lantern]

there's way more of that on the map than you will ever need

[kind tartan]

did any of yall had ur "Load" game options missing? if yes pls check my thread in questions🙏

[versed mesa]

Its true but people are different my dude

[bold heron]

would a shuffled recipie game mode be fun ? where alt & standart recipies are shuffled so u dont know whitch one u end up whit ? (whit some logic behind it so the stuff is useble)

[tall lantern]

you'd have to check how many base recipes you could actually swap out to see how viable that is

most of iron/copper probably stays the same, ditto oil

[versed mesa]

Well sometimes you need todo what need todo to get things right

[bold heron]

at lease some, whit at tier 1 steels screws are not an option, caterium cable or iron wire would be an option for exaple.

[dreamy nest]

ya, they were just saying you dont have to redo

not that you cant

[versed mesa]

😂

[tall lantern]

"because I want to" is always a valid reason to do something, regardless of how useful or practical it is

but folks'll always try and steer towards the more sensible options by default

[dreamy nest]

at the end of the day its a game and you should play however is fun for you

[versed mesa]

Exactly

[dreamy nest]

unless you're playing coop, in which case its however is fun for you and doesnt drive the other person nuts

[versed mesa]

I believe in the app you can highlight and delete and area

So your not doing it manually one by one

[dreamy nest]

yes you can bulk dismantle

[versed mesa]

With save editor

[dreamy nest]

oh i havent used a save editor, idk about that

[tall lantern]

if you're save editing you can do what you like, but that's not within the game so not really important. You could also just paste in a factory that does everything and 10000 coupons

[versed mesa]

Me to really i have checked it quickly though

[dreamy nest]

you dont have to save edit to bulk delete, its in the game

[versed mesa]

True but people would like to try do there own work them self's

[versed mesa]

True

[dreamy nest]

alrighty, time for me to head to work, ttyl

[versed mesa]

You still got to manually highlight each one then delete

[versed mesa]

Have a nice day

[reef basin]

I nean I'd get all recipes anyway and use different ones for different places. So it won't really change much I guess

[cold berry]

I just unlocked glass last night and then logged off because I know what I must do next

It's Operation "move everything into pretty buildings" time

I evolve from the field when I get home tonight

My wife has been saying that I clock out of one job and go to the next job but I don't care, the factory must grow. And in this case retreat into shells all day and not really grow but you get what I mean. I can't wait to use multiple floors to clear up so much freaking room in my field. I'll be able to make multiple outputs for each part that I get too slowly now, too without feeling like I'm wasting PREVIOUS FIELD SPACE

I'm excited and I hate that this is what excites me in games a little lol. I play other styles of games but this is one of my big favorite feelings lol. Gonna play some FFVIIR while my factory makes excess so I don't run into any limits while rebuilding

I think the coal plant being outside makes sense so that's like the only thing I'm not moving into buildings

[hybrid nymph]

I just completed my first aestetic factory, it took me 2 hours to build it to look good#screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

anyone know if the buildings from the Zoopables mod are actually considered different buildings from the deafult ones internally?

since its a seperate thing in the build menu

[tall lantern]

sounds like a question for the modding community

[jagged nymph]

i was just curious since its a different thing in the build menu

but i dont think it is like that because you can use modded buildings

idk

[stone summit]

Yoo wsg, started near when I quit gtag

[wheat ridge]

In the Tiket shop is more building stuff

[jagged nymph]

huh

[nova yacht]

Chat can someone supply a broke bum with the absolute peak that satisfactory is 🙏

[swift turret]

what does that mean

[spice osprey]

They’re asking for someone to buy the game and gift it to them

[nova yacht]

What colossus said😭 😞 🙏

[spice osprey]

I’m fairly certain that soliciting is against server rules btw

[nova yacht]

Isn’t solicitation the act of trying to sell smth?😭

And I read through the rules before asking I don’t see anything of the sort

[swift turret]

Please don't beg for keys/free copies of the game.

That applies

[spice osprey]

The word “solicit” means “to try to obtain.” A lot of people use it in the context of trying to “solicit a sale,” which is why it’s associated with selling, but requesting something for free is also trying to solicit it

[nova yacht]

Yo I’m blind I didn’t see that 😭

[lavish inlet]

Has anyone ever converted all of the crude oil on the map into ionized fuel and burned it for the theoretical maximum of 3900GW of power?

[unkempt blade]

no one ever

[green fiber]

Ionized < Rocket Fuel

[lavish inlet]

Maybe the 15600 fuel gens are too scary

[lavish inlet]

Really? The burn time is more for ionized fuel?

[green fiber]

No but the setup is too expensive

[lavish inlet]

Yeah can you even produce enough powershards to achieve that much ionized fuel?

[green fiber]

You could probably but thats not the point. Its barely even power positive

[lavish inlet]

3000 shards per minute holy moly

[tardy turret]

Hey everyone, I’m jumping back into Satisfactory after a long break. Last time I stopped around coal power and honestly had no idea what I was doing 😅

Are there any good video guides you’d recommend? My ADHD brain cannot sit through long written guides.

Also, if anyone’s down to kind of “hold my hand” and help me restart properly, I’d really appreciate it!

i think i started in 2019

been over 6 years now!!!

[unkempt blade]

You were only on coal you're not supposed to know what you're doing yet. Just keep playing the game and pay attention to the research milestones so you know what to focus on next

[rugged ore]

play the game enough to make the factory wrong in every single possible way then dont do that

[lavish inlet]

Just play the game, use satisfactory modeller or similar if you need to plan something out

[tardy turret]

would yall recommend to restart or pick up from where i left off?

[desert plover]

how long ago was that, roughly?

[tardy turret]

is that like a 3rd party tool?

[desert plover]

likely best to start off fresh tho tbh

[lavish inlet]

Coal isn't that far in, so if you want a clean slate, restart, but if you just want to play, then continue

[tardy turret]

5-6 years ago!

[desert plover]

oh yeah clean start it is

a lot has changed xD

[tardy turret]

yeah ive seen!

[lavish inlet]

It's on steam, it helps you on how much materials and machines you need to produce something

[desert plover]

and yes, its free

[lavish inlet]

Only really necessary after phase 3, the factories before that isn't that complex

[tardy turret]

i remember always struggling for power

and then getting mats from far off mines

like building the conveyor belt so long just felt so wrong

[lavish inlet]

Try to rush fuel gens, much more effective to your time

[tardy turret]

okay i need to up my game knowledge

what are fuel gens?

[lavish inlet]

Just play the game, follow the space elevator missions and it'll push you in the right direction

[tardy turret]

oh generators?

[lavish inlet]

Yes

[reef basin]

my tip is to learn on your own rather than copying builds and tutorials

[lavish inlet]

The space elevator is basically a massive tutorial to teach you everything you need to know

[tardy turret]

oh and also i think like all of you guys i prefer my builds to be kinda "systematic" idk if thats the word so i cant stand bad looking builds but also fail to do so sometimes because im clueless!

[reef basin]

yeah, though there are others (some of them imo better than modeler)

[tardy turret]

ahh i see

are there any content creators that do like basic beginner guides?

likes imp things to do first and not miss out on

[reef basin]

yeah, though again, not recommend to follow

[tardy turret]

aight ima go with the flow then

[unkempt blade]

That's just part of learning the game. Everyone starts out building messes and gets better with practice

[reef basin]

the game teaches you plenty

[tardy turret]

last time i played, i played the game for straight 40hrs and then never touched it again 😂

[eager palm]

And no matter how prepared you feel, you will see places you could have improved after any build, so don’t chase prep perfection.

[lavish inlet]

Remember to eat and take bathroom breaks, the game comsumes you

[tardy turret]

OH I KNOW

[lavish inlet]

My 10h straight sessions are not good for my adult life

[tardy turret]

also are mods against tos? i remember some content creators using mods at the time that helped with aligning your builds and stuff

[low herald]

Cleaning up a starter mess on some choice resource nodes…

[reef basin]

mods are fine, though again, I'd recommend first playthrough to be vanilla

[lavish inlet]

#screenshots message

I like that too

[tardy turret]

damn those look so clean! i scrolled past few all of them look banging!

[lavish inlet]

I like my factories compact, systematic and 100% efficient

[tardy turret]

i think the game should add AI data centers in game too with all the hype happening irl!

[tardy turret]

well thats the goal

[lavish inlet]

There are Ai expansion servers

But if you need any help or advice my dms are open

[reef basin]

(though it's better to get advice in public rather than in DMs)

[icy coyote]

hey all, im very new to the game. like just built the space elevator new. how far should i push automation this early? last night i set up automation for everything iron related. but is 1-2 rotors per min worth it?

[reef basin]

any automation is better than no automation

[icy coyote]

i mean yeah that is true. just feelsbad

[lavish inlet]

(that's probably true)

[zenith pecan]

Don't stress mass production early on, you'll organically get build ideas as stuff is unlocked.

[unkempt blade]

Just make sure you unlock factory carts in the awesome shop as soon as possible. That's the only must-do early on

[icy coyote]

says the factory carts guy

[unkempt blade]

they're ok I guess

[icy coyote]

LOL

next stupid question...how do i get tickets for the awesome shop? my assumption was by sending things up the space elevator but i was too tired to test it last night

[unkempt blade]

there's a sink building that you conveyor extra items into and it spits out coupons

[quick dew]

Whats the best starting area 🙏

[reef basin]

there's no "best"

[unkempt blade]

they're all good, pick whichever one makes you happiest

[quick dew]

in terms of resources and efficiency

[unkempt blade]

see above

[reef basin]

it's the same map, and "efficiency" just depends on how you build

so resources are the same

[quick dew]

very badly ;-;

[reef basin]

yeah, but that doesnt' change with starting loc

[quick dew]

desert it is

[unkempt blade]

they're all pretty equivalent early on and by the time it's not-early the game is going to be "encouraging" you to expand anyway

[icy coyote]

i am full of newbie questions. is there a way to limit how many items get pulled out of a storage container? like for right now, iron plates are my most abundant, but i dont want to pull all of them out...maybe like 25% automatically

[unkempt blade]

When you start doing research in the MAM you'll get a smart splitter that lets you overflow items from full containers towards something else. Most people overflow into the sink

[civic merlin]

Just supply more than you pull, and you are ok. There is no way to say "pull if more than 25% full only".

[reef basin]

separate production for storage, and separate production for next step

[civic merlin]

Or split into container and into demanders. Smart splitter is particularly good at thus, but regular one is workable too.

[dreamy nest]

Wait, it's the same map no matter where you start?

[reef basin]

yes

[dreamy nest]

Huh. I assumed four different maps. My bad

[ornate saffron]

Its just big.

I suggest going for the max height build trophy so you know how much vertical space you have.

[primal crypt]

completed my analysis of geo thermal power. and i determined the game has a way of simplyfiling the calculation which amounts to far less batteries being required then the wiki suggests.

Before geo thermal graph

[reef basin]

wiki suggests power storage, not batteries

[swift turret]

Anyone else the type of player to put down a crafting table next to the hub?

[dreamy nest]

Yes but I'm playing with a friend

[warped meadow]

can anyone here help me with blueprints?

[dreamy nest]

Yes. Ask your question

[warped meadow]

I have railway blueprints, that allow me to go through the rocks/underground for clean subway systems.... I am trying to put down the blueprints and then enter said tunnel, but the rocks and everything are still present and the tunnel doesnt work

[tall lantern]

yes, blueprints aren't going to remove the world

[dreamy nest]

I've never done any tunnelling so I can't help, sorry

[toxic lichen]

wheres our tunnel expert

[tall lantern]

you'll need some other way to punch through the terrain, blueprint or not

[toxic lichen]

@zenith pecan

[zenith pecan]

I'm on discord, though I'm at the office so I'm of limited use atm.

[toxic lichen]

sigh

[tall lantern]

blueprinted hypertubes'd work, or just riding the train through, but the terrain will be there and isn't going anywhere

[spice osprey]

If I have a machine that requires 30 ppm, and I am only able to feed it 15 ppm, what is the difference between underclocking it vs just letting it sit idle some of the time?

[tall lantern]

underclocking is less power consumption, and stable

if you have machines turning on and off then your power grid needs to be able to handle the spike when everything turns on at once

as an added bonus, 1 machine at 50% costs less power than 1 machine at 100% running half the time, but that's not the primary gain

[zenith pecan]

The train and tube are the only way into your underworld even with established infrastructure, this is why I use vertical shafts and tubes along with conveyor lifts, there were some holes you could use and walk below ground, I don't know how many remain post 1.0, I never looked.

[spice osprey]

So theoretically speaking, as long as my power grid's output is larger than the max consumption number, it should be fine?

[tall lantern]

sure

but if you clock things correctly, that max consumption will go down in this instance, so you'll have more headroom to work with

[spice osprey]

yep, that makes sense. Sorry, my response was probably worded strangely. I'm not planning to do this. I'm just trying to understand more about the game's mechanics

[tall lantern]

constructors, what, 4 MW?
at 50% clock, it'll be like 1.8 MW.
If you had 50 of 'em, you'd need to support 200MW in case the constructors all turn on. But if you just clocked them, you'd only need 96 MW of max consumption, so could fit more stuff in without having to worry

[spice osprey]

Now, what about the opposite scenario. Lets say the miners/smelters are producing more than I need for a given factory output. Is it better to clock the input so there's no waste, or should I try to use that extra material for other things, and/or sink it?

[tall lantern]

either clock or make more, both are valid. I wouldn't sink ore, but if you want to make more stuff to then sink, that's fine

depends whether you actually want more product

using more purely for the sake of using more is meh

but if it's like "well I do need some plates too so I can use this node for that too", sure

don't feel like you're wasting nodes by not fully using them, since that by logic you're also wasting every other node on the map you haven't started using yet (h/t greeny)

[spice osprey]

So, the example I have in mine is Rotors. The assembler for rotors takes 100 screws and 20 rods. With 60 iron ore, I can make 120 screws and 30 rods, which means 20 screws and 10 rods will overflow. So I'm debating whether I should store that for other use, sink it, or clock everything to the right numbers

[reef basin]

you can't "waste" anything, resources are infinite

just clock the miner to what you need

[tall lantern]

also got option 3 there of make however many rotors you can make with 60 ore

might not be nice numbers mind

[swift turret]

Tell that to my powershards and im still 9 billions hours away from phase 5 :sad:

[tall lantern]

screws specifically aren't really useful as an end product beyond milestones

[reef basin]

powershards are also infinite

[swift turret]

now read the 2nd half of my message. Cant speed through having nothing automated

[reef basin]

they are infinte even pre-phase 5

[swift turret]

no you need time crystals to automate them in the MAM which requires phase 5

[reef basin]

no, you can just get slugs from doggos

[swift turret]

a chance

[reef basin]

but infinite

[swift turret]

Theres a also the chance you could never get them from doggos

[reef basin]

that still doesn't make them "not infinite"

[swift turret]

if buying a lottery ticket every day made me rich then call me a billionare

[reef basin]

you don't pay anyhting for getting things from doggos

[mortal ginkgo]

Time.

[reef basin]

if time is your issue, then don't play videogames lol

[mortal ginkgo]

You were still wrong.

[swift turret]

berrys

[mortal ginkgo]

It costs time to go for a doggo.

[reef basin]

that's one-time cost, not per-use

[mortal ginkgo]

Berries are infinite! runs

[swift turret]

Nah they're very picky you gotta find the perfect ripe ones

[scarlet rose]

i completed phase 5

[mortal ginkgo]

now you can finally focus on 60/min nuclear pasta

[fluid sapphire]

congratz, now you can finally start the game

[swift turret]

now delete it and start a new save

[reef basin]

I mean there are obvious things that are ignored since otherwise everything would have a cost. I'm obviously talking in terms of ingame resources

[scarlet rose]

now i rest, and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro blz.

[scarlet rose]

delete this save? hell no
start a new save? yes i probably will

[swift turret]

It is the cycle of life

[scarlet rose]

its the cycle of satisfactory

[swift turret]

like putting nuclear waste in your doggo and blowing them up

[scarlet rose]

what-

[swift turret]

Must've been the wind

[quick dew]

thx for the idea when i get there

[mortal ginkgo]

Did you say something?

[scarlet rose]

not even the wind can hide this

[sick falcon]

life must be so freeing as an impure limestone node

[drowsy kelp]

What about a normal SAM node

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, it is. Very much.

[latent bridge]

hey

can someone help me, i can't descontruct my pod

[sick falcon]

idk i’m not in phase 5 yet

[drowsy kelp]

Are you sure you didn’t accidentally leave it in blueprint mode

[latent bridge]

ye

it worked now

new at the game

[sick falcon]

sloop your slugs

[torpid trellis]

what causes a machine to stop and go idle in the middle of a production cycle? As in the craft is at 50%, the machine pauses and goes idle for a few seconds, then starts back up at 50%? All inputs are full, output is empty so not jammed up, power is constant and steady. Its affecting entire banks of machines at the same time, and I can't tell if this is just a bug with server calculations or something

[mortal ginkgo]

are you using Hoverpack?

[stone quiver]

The 100 MW hover demon strikes again

[mortal ginkgo]

I am still hopeful they will fix that in Satisfactory 2 - Revenge of Spheres

[stone quiver]

Hey power ain't free

[torpid trellis]

yes, does it connecting cause them to momentarily lose power? Ive got 30GW available over my current usage, hoverpack draw should be negligible

[mortal ginkgo]

It causes a bug where entire gridline stops production for a second when hoverpack connects itself to the new grid.

Might be worse when it is server but unsure. Whats we all sure about is what I mentioned above.

Solution? Only have one grid 😛

[tall lantern]

no power switches for yoouuuu

[torpid trellis]

thats good to know and extremely frustrating, ive got some lines that are pretty finely balanced and having machines randomly pause like that throws everything off

[mortal ginkgo]

hey maybe they fixed it at 1.2 experimental?

they REALLY want to hunt down the bugs once and for all

[tall lantern]

that'd be nice

[mortal ginkgo]

people have power storages just for sometimes but I get you

I personally dont see a point of having more than one grid as long as I am not dumbo enough to not check a pole time to time, which I might be but hey

[torpid trellis]

what im confused about now is that im pretty sure i do only have a single grid