satisfactory

[cold berry]

I blame Minecraft Create, because their pumps take extra power on the actual pipe via a gear

It's their fault

[feral jay]

That, and it's not explained in-game at all

(not that I recall, anyway)

[severe pewter]

My biggest problem was the sloshing, but if that can be mitigated, then it means I'm free to do almost whatever I want within the boundaries of the physics engine.

[ornate saffron]

You just got to approach it like the adaptous mechanicous in warhammer 40k.

Perform the proper rituals and praise the machine spirits

[severe pewter]

I'm sorry for your [fluid] loss[es]

[stone quiver]

Make it a 590 power plant and 0 issues.

[feral jay]

Really my biggest gripe is that there just isn't enough information given to me when I'm trying something funky, so I've gotta wait for a couple hours while it settles and stabilizes, before probelms start cropping up

The fluid dynmaics physics is fine in the game, it's just that it's mostly invisible to the player

[dense violet]

mostly sloshing is mitiged by loops AND full pipes AND lack of buffers

[severe pewter]

But damnit they gave fluid gravity, and I'm going to use it. The buffers are just my peepholes, regular pipes don't tend to give me enough information.

[dense violet]

you look at a set of machines using fluids - are they always up 100% of the time?
you have all the info you need

no? work on the flow or math

[feral jay]

I do understand that - if a fluid buffer fillls up where it shouldn't be filling up, you've got a problem

But it introduces issues in other ways

[dense violet]

except the issue with that is that it's often because the buffer exists that that happens

[feral jay]

AGreed

[dense violet]

and you can tell the exact same thing if your outputs on your producers are clogged

it's like shooting someone and then going 'HUH! this person has a bullet hole in them, glad I checked with this GUN'

[stone quiver]

I'm curious why all the buffer hate. You're telling me if I use pipes to fill a 2400m3 water tower and gravity fill a column of pipes... I'm gonna have issues because the game treats water out of the container differently?

I've not used them enough to notice an isssue

[severe pewter]

I can do that with belts, that's easy. But 300m³/sec doesn't always mean 300m³/sec, and sometimes I've gotta find out why. The more I mess with it though, the easier it becomes to mess with the fluids.

[dense violet]

they either do nothing or cause problems.
That's the whole thing

[dense violet]

yes that's why you look if your machines are running right

[feral jay]

Because people think it solves problems when it doesn't. There is no difference between a pipe and a buffer, game wise. They're the exact same thing to the game's code, just that a buffer holds much more and has a different UI

[dense violet]

except buffers give variable head lift and can cause flow issues by existing

pipes don't do that

[ornate saffron]

Buffers are for
......

....

Buffering trains

[feral jay]

Unless you're either stockpiling liquid, or using the buffer for wacky headlift tricks, there is absolutely nothing they do that a pipe can't.

[stone quiver]

I would instinctively think a buffer would apply continuous head pressure, whereas water extractors are discrete, if you watch the pumping animation .

No comment on how it's coded backend just visually and irl

[dense violet]

yup, their headlift depends on how full they are

[dense violet]

also if the yaren't always full, huge sloshing issues

[warm finch]

not just huge sloshing issues, WORSE sloshing issues than if you had just pipes with sloshing issues

[dense violet]

basically

[willow pond]

i love mindlessly plopping down machinery only to realize it's all backwards

[warm finch]

1400+ hours and I STILL do this.. aggravating.

[severe pewter]

Idk, only 2 things I've noticed are that 1: buffers are pipes with large vertical cross-section, and 2: buffers can be more prone to sloshing in large amounts because of the way pipe sloshing is treated combined with their capacity. But honestly, once I figured them out, it was never the buffers that gave me a problem. It was always the pumps (or especially check valves, on the rare occasion I used them).

I want to know the game logic that always breaks the pipe immediately after the pump. It's always that spot.

[dense violet]

also if you are pumping fluids up to a buffer for a water tower you don't actually need the buffer

[feral jay]

I recently did that with FORTY smelters

[willow pond]

3200 fucking hours and still doing it

[warm finch]

we should start an "Ass-backwards" club

[merry mountain]

ADA and the spheres are getting a little freaky

[willow pond]

or something like the decon button, but of a "flip this around please"

[warm finch]

run towards the voice!

[willow pond]

HARVEST

[severe pewter]

I'd love to have the cut/copy/paste mechanic of Alchemy Factory

[merry mountain]

they're flirting man which is a little weird for an AI model and a disembodied voice buuut I do need more dimensional depot space

[warm finch]

That... already exists!

well, for the machine settings that is. Then for the actual copying of machines you have the blue print

[severe pewter]

I don't mean blueprints. I mean I click, drag out a square, and everything above it is selected. Then I can cut it, or rotate it and re-paste it as I please.

[willow pond]

i still kinda don't like using blueprints

[dense violet]

I kinda wish they had never added blueprints

[severe pewter]

Especially in those moments when everything was accidentally placed one square off

[willow pond]

i just can't think far enough ahead to to a pre-setup thing like a blueprint 🤣

[severe pewter]

I can't blueprint, because I build, and figure things out as I go. No two builds are ever the same.

[willow pond]

same

i just did a mass run of 10 nodes to the center of the map without blueprints because i changed things about a dozen times

[severe pewter]

Lol, sounds like stuff I do

[zenith pecan]

I tend to make stuff up on the fly also, primary issue tends to be the large scale at which I build.

[abstract heron]

I wish conveyor stackable poles where able to zoop right and left not up and down

[severe pewter]

Having the patience to go through with the large builds is hard. Especially after the Sushi Factory.
That mentally cooked me.

[severe pewter]

You mean at 40m intervals or something?

[abstract heron]

like in a line for easyer placement

[zenith pecan]

Should see my spire project that I onlined recently, that took more patience than I could truly afford.

[severe pewter]

That would be kinda cool actually, a super zoop that auto-calculated the poles for you

[severe pewter]

I am curious to see. My stuff took so much out of me that I stopped playing for 3 years half-way through the build. And for several months afterward.

[stone quiver]

Where's the best spot to sloop for copper powder for pasta

Is it ingots from foundry or the powder itself

[zenith pecan]

Here's an overview of the spire project #design-and-architecture message , its basically 23 oil platforms and a resin refinery at the end, total output 6460 plastic & 3660 rubber.

[severe pewter]

Lol, the numbers say a lot

[zenith pecan]

Another large scale one #screenshots message , this place puts out 12300 aluminium ingots.

[silver seal]

Does anyone have a guide for nuclear power I can read?

[dense violet]

it's basically like any other process

decide on recipes and location

decide how yo uwant to deal with waste.

what did you want to know?

[zenith pecan]

All the worlds SAM #design-and-architecture message 🤣

[ornate saffron]

I suggest feeding the waste to doggo and the toilet on the hub

[zenith pecan]

More numbers here #design-and-architecture message , look at the pic just below the clip 😂

[silver seal]

That's basically what I was doing, more just wanting to know best ways to set up the plant and whether it is worth it to go straight to plutonium or not

[dense violet]

like everything best is subjective

you can jsut quickly blueprint storage for the waste, never have to do plutonium.

I generally do plutonium to feed into my drones

[willow pond]

do y'all like to max out the amount of smelters per node at the highest level of miner & belt rate before you've unlocked it and keep the extras on standby, or expand as you go

[west jackal]

do you guys usually use guns/rebar gun? i never bothered and just make nobelisks for combat, but since i just started over, i was thinking of getting rebar gun

[hollow hemlock]

the rifle is good stuff

[dense violet]

Other than that some tips

you don't have to make the rods and burn them in the same location
very easy to drone the rods to the water

I would have all the logistics, drones trains everything on a dedicated grid completely split from the rest of yoru world, don't want to accidentally delete a rail or power line and crash your nuclear system

[willow pond]

i do nobelisk until i get explosive rebar

[hollow hemlock]

nuclear weapons are good fun too, just enough kill, definitely not overkill by any means

[west jackal]

when is explosive rebar? is that on the sulfur mam

[silver seal]

Yes

[willow pond]

gotta get to refineries first

[west jackal]

oh dang

i dont even have steel going yet, just pipes from crash site

im taking it slow 🙂

i play a couple hundred hours then take a 6-12 month break then play again lol

[willow pond]

the tradeoff is with nobelisk you can drop one at your feet and be ok, explosive rebar you accidentally hit and it goes instaboom

C4 vs M79

[hollow hemlock]

But bigger boom is better boom

[stone quiver]

How long do these builds take

Do you prefer massive builds vs say "how much can I fit creatively in a 48x48x48 cube

[zenith pecan]

Due to work eating up a ton of time, sometimes a couple of weeks.

[willow pond]

however much your system can take before it melts

[abstract heron]

Thinking of how to do belting all the way for a straghit line

[willow pond]

(hit R)

[severe pewter]

The sushi factory is probably less than 1/10th that size.

The hard part for me was routing, figuring out what to make before routing, and trying to feng shui 30 different resources and minimize belt backtracking in a small space with as few belts as possible, without making everything super cramped.

I still haven't properly figured out aesthetics yet.

-what are you going to do with 1.21 Jigawatts of power?

[zenith pecan]

Sounds like the fun and games that is the helix bundle underneath the resin refinery, it's job was to cull resin before consolidating the rest onto fewew belts for distribution, send the resin upto the refineries, and combine the outputs with the rest, all within a six metre high space at each end of the structure.

[abstract heron]

i meant like threw a wall or belt

trying to do alumin nicely

[willow pond]

ah

i mean, we do have the custom wall holes now

[hollow hemlock]

transport satisfactory back to 1985 and then when I get home I'm immediately jumping into a new game of satisfactory 10.0

[willow pond]

lol i wonder what kind of mid-80s system would be needed to run SF on minimum settings

[hollow hemlock]

Thats a them problem

[willow pond]

i bet max settings would take the entire planets' worth of computing power from back then

[severe pewter]

You'd need to convert everything back to at least 16 bit first, maybe 8 bit. But a Gateway 2000 would probably barely manage at 1 frame per 10 minutes

[willow pond]

lol gateway, haven't heard that name in a long time. i remember the cow theme

[hollow hemlock]

there existed 32 bit systems in that era, theyd have to translate it off of intel though

[severe pewter]

The only 32 bit-type systems I'm familiar with all cheated by pasting something like 8 + 8 + 16 bits together.

[hollow hemlock]

Time to expand your horizons then 👍

[willow pond]

i wish that steel beams were conductive

[west jackal]

lol i dont

[severe pewter]

I'd be okay with it, if touching them caused electrocution, with damage scaling with the amount of power flowing through it

[willow pond]

oh 100%

too much power and you gmod fricasee

[west jackal]

what point is shatter rebar

[willow pond]

to shotgun blast multiple rocks

[severe pewter]

It's rebar. That shatters.

[west jackal]

no shit xD

[zenith pecan]

Pretty much a shitgun blast for hitting in an area.

[west jackal]

thank you. lol

[zenith pecan]

I prefer the explosions to shotgun hits though, more useful to me.

[willow pond]

same

[west jackal]

dont have oil

[severe pewter]

For a shotgun though, it's rather underpowered

[willow pond]

i'm too incompetent with any other type of rebar

[severe pewter]

Explosive all the way

[willow pond]

i do wish that regular rebar would pin players & mobs in place on a kill

[severe pewter]

I mean, there is stun rebar.

dang it I think I'm going to need a second bauxite node

[willow pond]

maximizing density without clipping sucks

[severe pewter]

Aye. Wanna see some screw magic?

[willow pond]

that sounds suggestive

sure

[severe pewter]

Lol. Not in the way you think though

[willow pond]

i'm currently working on 6 pure iron nodes almost side by side

[willow pond]

i'm starting to think i should invest in screw manufacturers irl

[cold berry]

First two steel items, and all iron items up to that point, and copper. Done.

And I don't have a proper building yet, rereeeee

Free range machines. They never see a cage their whole lives

[severe pewter]

Are you familiar with Frankenstein's Monster?

The goal was to make everything as compacted as possible without anything clipping. And I succeeded, but at what cost?

#screenshots message

[cold berry]

They have the whole field to roam in. They can eat grass freely

[warm finch]

your sanity?

[willow pond]

that's just painfully gorgeous

i love the stainless steel look

[severe pewter]

It was a much earlier build, from back during 0.6

-it was a lot of fun to build, but it wasn't until I finished, and finally took a look at it that I realized what I had created

[drowsy kelp]

Now that’s my kind of factory

You created a masterpiece

[severe pewter]

Still gets a lot of use too
In its current configuration

Further upgradeable with upgraded belts & miners, and shards, it's currently pushing out a modest:

20 iron plates
55 advanced plates
135 iron rods
1,260 screws

[willow pond]

at least we don't need flowers and a color gun now 🤣

[west jackal]

how much steel beams/pipes yall normally make at the start>

[warm finch]

as much as the belts will allow, that's usually your bottleneck for a long while

[west jackal]

i was thinking 270 iron/coal was enough for now, but i dont think thats enough for all steel items

[warm finch]

it's enough to get you started, which is what you can focus on

then as you unlock faster belts you can expand further

[drowsy kelp]

I didn’t even notice they went missing until i was reading random things on the wiki and noticed the removed content tag

[west jackal]

when can you get smart splitters now adayas

[willow pond]

caterium tree

[west jackal]

oh im blind

i thought the tree was removed for some reason

[willow pond]

i mean, they do blind you to a lot of stuff until you're 1/2 nodes away from it

[drowsy kelp]

Afaik no mam tree has ever been removed

If you don’t count ficsmas leaving and coming back every year

[west jackal]

flowers got removed.

[drowsy kelp]

Flowers aren’t a mam tree

[west jackal]

they were

[drowsy kelp]

They were?

[west jackal]

yes

i think its the only tree thats been removed now

[drowsy kelp]

Huh

[west jackal]

(well and the christmas stuff)

i just missed the tree

[drowsy kelp]

The flowers tree (more of a line) was removed in update 5 which was before i started playing

[gloomy tusk]

wow you have been playing for a long time

[west jackal]

lol ive been playing since U1, just not super consistantly, i play and then take breaks

which unfortunately means i own it on epic 😛 im considering rebuying it to get it on steam, tbh i probably would if i could move my old save data to steam cloud

[zenith pecan]

You kinda can move it to the steam cloud, copy the old data over, load it, then save, steam will sync it.

[west jackal]

i may do that then

[severe pewter]

I forgot all about that thing

[zenith pecan]

I've had other peoples save files end up on my cloud by loading them and trying to figure out the problems they had.

[west jackal]

and yeah its so much nicer not to, although changing the texture still costs material

[west jackal]

that is good to know

[severe pewter]

A good chunk of my steel is fed from oil byproduct

[west jackal]

?

what alt

[zenith pecan]

I ended up with thousands of steel just from power station byproducts 🤣

[severe pewter]

Petroleum coke

[west jackal]

ohh okay

i thought you turned it straight to steel or like plastic into steel or something weird lol

i didnt know if there was some new "weird" alt

[severe pewter]

Idk about that, but my stuff was rather diversified

[west jackal]

good!

thats my favorite parth of this game, seeing the things people make that are super unique!

[severe pewter]

Heh. Working on aluminum atm, want to play with quartz purification

[west jackal]

yeah, the one thing i was always bad about was bringing resources from other areas, for some reason i had a bad habit of either belting it across the world or trying to move raw resources, i shouldve condensed and such wouldve made moving things easier

[severe pewter]

Belting ftw

[warm finch]

you spelled "trains" wrong

[severe pewter]

What do you mean? My belts are resource trains

[west jackal]

dude im so tired i reread my mesage 4 times trying to see where i spelled trains wrong

[warm finch]

I was being silly about trains (I love trains)

[west jackal]

i like the old trains

not the new confusing ones 😉

(i understand them for the most part, but the old ones just went where they were told)

[warm finch]

that is still the case

[severe pewter]

Satisfactory - How to train your resources

[west jackal]

no, you have to deal with signals and logistics, you cant have multiple trains on the same rail

[dense violet]

Logistics and paths they take are the same. Just need block signals so they don’t collide

[warm finch]

you can. train logistics follows several very simple rules:

1. The engine decides where it is going. nothing else.
2. The engine will ALWAYS take the shortest route.
3. Block signals only tells the train if the next rail segment is available to be occupied.

[west jackal]

i know. i was just joking because they used to clip through each other so it was nothing

[warm finch]

AH! Fair. that didn't translate well, my apologies. I try to explain for any lurkers or newbies reading

[west jackal]

honestely, i appreciate it, it is helpful even though I knew more or less what you said

[severe pewter]

Half-clipping a belt to a lift was always amusing. I think it's called side-loading in Factorio

[west jackal]

AND, its really helpful that you do that because there are a lot of things you learn from experience, and sharing your experience could really help people!

[warm finch]

for sure. and you probably don't remember me. I started in U6 I believe, seen you pop up from time to time. I know I did as well

[severe pewter]

Actually, one feature I think the devs removed, that I really wish they hadn't, was the ability to place a track curve, then walk way beyond the range of the track, pick a spot, and it would still build out as far as possible. I used to use that trick to make giant bends, and I can't anymore.

[west jackal]

yeah i think i joined the server a few months into playing, the wealth of information ive gotten on here is outstanding! like back when fluids were added i could never get my water to work, mcgalleon saved my butt

[warm finch]

McGalleon and Greeny have saved so many players' sanity regarding fluids, newbies still come on here to argue with them

[west jackal]

lol

sometimes i like to argue with Greeny, but he is amazing lol

i use his tool all the time, sometimes i consider making my own, just because there are some features id like to add to his, then i realize how much work he has put into it and give up lol

[warm finch]

hahah the only time I "argue" with Greeny is when I'm being facetious.

[west jackal]

well, yeah... maybe im being stubborn some of the time 😛

[warm finch]

We play satisfactory, we are all stubborn to a fault...

[west jackal]

it doesnt help that im about to graduate with degree in engineering so I have to be stubborn there too 😛

[severe pewter]

(Why is it 'fuh-SEE-shus', and not 'FAH-setis'?)

[warm finch]

well tbf, it's not a professional degree anymore, according to certain, cough people cough

[warm finch]

you're legit asking a deaf person, so according to my expertise, it's neither.

[west jackal]

wdym its not a professional degree?

[warm finch]

serious question: you don't know?

[west jackal]

i mean, i dont pay close attention to politics, im about to graduate with bachelors in EE and will get masters in a few years, but i mean medicine, law, and engineering seem like the 3 main professional fields to me

[severe pewter]

Uh. Does it count as a professional trade then?

[west jackal]

huh

yall im so confused, why isnt it a professional degree lol

and if it isnt... what is?

ima laugh my freaking butt off if you say buisness or some shi because that is a party degree

[warm finch]

You don't have to convince me. My wife's a special education teacher and it's not considered a professional degree either. Nor is my counseling degree "professional" either. This is all according to Dept of Education.

[west jackal]

thats so stupid.

[severe pewter]

Sounds like somebody turned Engineering into the Breakdancing Raygun of Higher Learning

[west jackal]

i feel like thats a reference i dont understand 🙁

im just a wee lad

[severe pewter]

-because it's so easy

[west jackal]

engineering isnt easy?

i mean, i enjoy it, so its not like its hard but its not easy

[warm finch]

oh right no links here

[severe pewter]

I'd imagine that to be the mindset that demoted things

[warm finch]

I was making a joke about it. The Trump admin made a list of degrees they do not consider "professional" anymore for the federal Dept of Education to exclude from higher student loan borrowing limits.

nothing to be confused bout on your end Dylan.

[west jackal]

honestely, most policies of the DoE are dumb, they barely fund schools, then get mad when most teachers dont care enough and it shows on the students. there are some amazing teachers, ive met a handfull, but most of them are so worried about making enough money to live they cant focus on teaching. (I dont blame the teachers to be clear, I blame the gov)

this is a little off topic! Sorry!

[warm finch]

I don't disagree with you at all. I was being fah-see-tis...

[severe pewter]

It's a solid distraction while I tear the whole factory down

[west jackal]

i didnt realize that greeny had all his src code available on github 🤨

[nova arch]

Teachers in my country live off of a measly 1k-1.5k USD a month xD it's bad

[west jackal]

geez... what is that compared to other professions though?

[nova arch]

Other professions are no better only engineers make around 5k-10k

[west jackal]

i made double that working at autozone with no required education 🙁

[west jackal]

thats wild, i guess cost of living is lower where you are? I dont know... i live in the US and the economy feels ...yucky at the moment

[torn lynx]

ok, so im upgrading my storage area to have the dimensional depos, I automated so muich stuff that i ahve nowehre to put it

[west jackal]

DD are soooo amazing!

question for smart people. what distance do you consider too long for belts

[warm finch]

When it starts to bother you

[west jackal]

before packaged fuel i find supplying tractors with coal to be tedious

[warm finch]

yeah that's annoying. I just belt lol

[severe pewter]

If you're doing that, bake in a dump chest. Something that will send to every dimensional depot (it works much better if you place a storage chest or two prior as a buffer) via smart splitters. That way you can dump everything, especially the high value items back into storage, without having to sort it yourself. The setup does require a sink for overflow prevention.

[torn lynx]

oh i am

the sink hungers

[torn lynx]

#screenshots message

all of that is connected to one sink

[west jackal]

amnesite your build you posted in SS looks soooo amazing

my builds never look that good

i yearn to make my builds that pretty

[nova arch]

About the length of #screenshots I put there

[severe pewter]

It's a good start

[west jackal]

how long did that build take

[severe pewter]

The screws?

[torn lynx]

are you talkign about my screenshot?

[west jackal]

hell yeah the steel screws

i didnt realize it was just screws, it looks so amazing

[severe pewter]

I wouldn't say it's great by any means, but the belts are mesmerizing to watch

[west jackal]

it looks very cool lol

[torn lynx]

ah, i also plan on replacing my tractor system with trains, the tractor system works i jsut freaking lvoe trains, anyone have advice/

[west jackal]

trains take up a lot of room

[severe pewter]

@west jackal it's not just screws, but that is the bulk of it

[torn lynx]

i know

if it proves impossible or too miuch work i was gonna make a train to take stuff from the oil factory and bring it to me

[west jackal]

yeah after you said screws i looked closer lol. do you have like a texture pack or something? the steel looked sparkly

[severe pewter]

Nah, everything's vanilla on Ultra. It might be lingering Photo Mode settings though

[west jackal]

yeah im on ultra, your game just looks so nice haha, maybe it was just the lighting

[nova arch]

Ultra?! what are your specs?

[severe pewter]

Uh, it's been a minute

[west jackal]

i guess i have on upscaling

its set to quality tho, so it renders 90%

im playing on 4k240 with 4080super and 9800x3d, but i onlyhave 32gigs of ram, shouldve thought about this game when i built the computer

[severe pewter]

3080ti mobile, i9-12900H, 64GB of ram, 2x2TB drives set up in Raid 0

[west jackal]

if i had, i wouldve added 128gigs, 32 is fine for everything else haha

[west jackal]

i also play on my laptop that has 3060ti but its on like medium settings with performance upscaling

[severe pewter]

The cpu, hard drive speed, and enough ram to load every texture is important too

[west jackal]

i found the issue amnesite! for some reason the conveyor quality setting was turned down

[west jackal]

i have 3 gen4 nvme drives, they are fine

[severe pewter]

I've heard lower belt quality settings causes load issues

[nova arch]

Me on laptop with 1060 3gb i7-7700HQ 16gb ram NVMe ssd

[west jackal]

damn, my gfs little brother games on a laptop with iris integrated graphics, its so awful.

i wish you top of the line pc specs in the future ❤️

[nova arch]

Yeah I'm currently saving up money, should be enough to buy prebuilt pc with 4060 in the upcoming winter

[west jackal]

why prebuilt and not building yourself?

i think for the most part prebuilts (from small companies) are around 200-300 usd over the parts, so if you built you could put that money into more ram/gpu

[severe pewter]

For the same reason people use other peoples' blueprints

I wish you could build laptops like desktops though

[west jackal]

yea.. i bought a laptop back in 2022, ill never buy a gaming laptop again, i only really game on it when im at my gfs house but i think by the point i need a new one, ill be living with her soo

[severe pewter]

Especially because I can't truly upgrade a laptop, that's why I overbuilt the hell out of mine. Planning on running it to obsoletion

[west jackal]

yeah i wish i got one with better gpu, but it was on sale, and lowkey the battery life is already SOOOO bad

[severe pewter]

Battery life on mine is also trash, but that's to be expected. At least it's portable.

[warm finch]

same here, bought mine on sale from lenovo. it's decent, not terrible, not great. but it does the job and outperforms my PC it replaced which was about 7 years overdue for a replacement lol

I travel for work now so a gaming laptop is a must

when I'm home, I just hook it up to my 34" curved monitor. although tbf that's probably what is taxing the laptop the most lol

[pine elk]

I play on a Rog Xbox Ally X when I am traveling .. runs very good … at home I connect a RTX 5070ti to the ally and play everything in ultra settings on a 85 oled

[west jackal]

the laptop was better than my old pc, but i was coerced into giving that to my older sister that has never held a job, so she now has my old monitor and computer, i built a new one and got a 32inch curved 4k oled, so im happy, but out like a grand from the old system

anyways, it works for gaming on the go, as long as the system knows to use the gpu, sometimes it struggles and tries to use the integrated

[warm finch]

yeah that sucks. I had to turn that off in bios settings. drove me crazy

[west jackal]

the problem is that i want the integrated off when im at school, it just struggles to know when to use integrated or not. its supposed to use integrated on battery and dedicated when plugged in, but it forgets.

[warm finch]

works well for the most part. Unless the charging pack is wiggled just enough so the battery thinks it's not charging and then it keeps tryinng to switch to integrated in order to save battery

[west jackal]

not buying lenovo again.

i will say, i like the square power plug it came with WAYYY more than the round ones from other laptops

[severe pewter]

I used to be able to run this game in 4k at ~150fps (with Vulkan mind you), but between updates, Vulkan breaking, and The Factory Must Growing, I'm down to 50~60 @ 1440p

[west jackal]

lol, what do you use to check fps

[severe pewter]

At least it warns you that the charger disconnected

[west jackal]

im scared to load my old spaghetti mess

[severe pewter]

I leave the Nvidia fps counter running in the corner, real small. But I think Satisfactory has its own

[zenith pecan]

It does, open the console and type: stat fps

[west jackal]

oh bet

im only getting 120 fps, but im at 4k ultra

[torn lynx]

what is the best use for trains?

[warm finch]

everything

[torn lynx]

got it

[severe pewter]

I think I'm about to start using them. I need too many resources to build the aluminum stuff otherwise

[warm finch]

which recipe are you using?

[gloomy tusk]

anyone good with fuel difficulties https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1473209148534554765

[warm finch]

what's up?

[severe pewter]

A lot of alts. But crystal purification is going in there too. Considering whether or not I want to move materials locally to make all the subcomponents on-site.

But I'm currently ripping into the floor to make a bit more room for things.

[west jackal]

whats the benefit of rocket fuel

is it just the next tier above tf before nuclear?

[warm finch]

amazing burn time and return on energy

and it's GAS

[west jackal]

GAS?

[warm finch]

yup, gas, not fluid. don't have to worry about headlift

[west jackal]

oh

[warm finch]

low value high volume stuff, build locally if you can.

[fiery violet]

@tidal dock you can always pick nothing - then you won't get this again
-# #screenshots message

[drowsy kelp]

Making honk noises going 65 knots

[severe pewter]

Most likely going to. Just annoyed I had to rip everything out.
It's ~10 hrs down the drain.

At least I get to keep the already assembled aluminum bits.

[warm finch]

this is the satisfactory way

[severe pewter]

Currently debating on adding floors

[west jackal]

i need to automate motors and versatile framework, but its 1am and i have school at 8am...

it was good talking to you guys! goodnight@!

[severe pewter]

Tchüss

[peak wasp]

hey guys is the experiomental update worth trying or too many bugs? cheers

[versed mesa]

1.2 is not on there yet

[torn lynx]

ok, i learned the hard way that oil power doesnt jsut take crude oil, and now i look liek a total dumbass

[hybrid nymph]

hey if anyone wants to try my simple modpack I put together, it adds a few things but keeps the vanilla feel of the game

[torn lynx]

does packages oil residue serve any real purpose?

[mortal belfry]

thats how i mainly get rid of oil residue

i package it then sink it

[torn lynx]

im about to use tio for the fuel generators, didnt know if packaging it had any real purpose

[mortal belfry]

whats the most amount of freights that can be on a train until it slows down

[gloomy tusk]

Guess who just hit tier 9 🥳

[hybrid nymph]

nice

[severe pewter]

Also, oil is sort-of the introduction to aluminum shenanigans, and then probably uranium in turn

[short fiber]

Oh load balances..what would I ever do without you ❤️ ❤️

[severe pewter]

The residue can be refined. Dumping it is honestly a waste. Depending on which route you go, everything can be turned into:
Plastic
Rubber
Petroleum Coke
Fuel ( -> Turbo Fuel with compacted coal)
Fabric

[hybrid nymph]

I have a few favorite mods

Faster manual crafting redux
vanilla upgrades
glass fluid buffer
inventory slots 150
awesome points x100
balanced craftable power shards
power towers plus
fuel chainsaw
elevator icon pack
awesome artifacts

these are the mods I play with

[severe pewter]

While I've been running Vanilla, whatever mod overlays the base onto the World Map is something I'd love to have

[hybrid nymph]

there is a minimap mod

if you want mods but still want the vanilla feel, I would recommend trying these 10 mods

it still feels a lot like vanilla, but with a little twist and a few little quality of life things added and extra features

[hybrid nymph]

wow no messages in over an hour...it's quiet

[tall lantern]

europeans working, americans napping

[cold berry]

"Americans". Yeah keep trying to make me think they exist. Brain rot

I left my factory on overnight for the first time. I need reinforced plates. But I know it'll be clogged with screws

I didn't feel like disconnecting the screws

[tall lantern]

rekt, sounds like you need a better factory

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that idle crafting is paying microtransactions to your energy provider

[cold berry]

My roommate pays for the electricity and also I hate them now so it's cool

(not even sure if this is a /s, I'm moving in like two weeks because they suck lol)

[reef basin]

It's basically just highest safe number in the language the website uses. Practically ot's "infinity".
(Also cc @cunning glade )

[narrow musk]

Graveyards are awake!

[short fiber]

When 10 modular frames a minute lines up perfectly witb a pure node 😩

[sterile blade]

JuSt MaNiFoLd It!

[cunning glade]

I see ty very glad I pinged figured u weren't on and neat

[hybrid nymph]

Even though I am American, I don't identfy with them

I have a strong dislike for other Americans

I'm nothing like them

America is a joke

just wait for the shock what will happen when China becomes #1, Americans won't be so proud anymore

Here's the list of mods for my little vanilla + modpack

Faster manual crafting redux
vanilla upgrades
glass fluid buffer
inventory slots 150
awesome points x100
balanced craftable power shards
power towers plus
fuel chainsaw
elevator icon pack
awesome artifacts

[sleek halo]

Inventory slot 150??

Whats the point of the mam then

[hybrid nymph]

It has its uses, it still researches stuff

[sleek halo]

Js play the game as the devs made it

Thats how u enjoy a videogame

[reef basin]

inventory slots are basically pointles once you hit depots anyway

[hybrid nymph]

I have been doing that for all of my saves, I'm just trying mods for the first time

it's super fun

[cold berry]

||same, I'm just coping with this joke. It feels like our country has been destroyed by lack of education, but I'm neurodivergent and learned some things slower and some things much faster, and thought everyone was on the same page as me generally with a few bad apples, and easily tricked people. Then 2024 elections happened and woof. I feel like there's a lot of neurodivergent people "waking up" in the last 10 years and going "oh they actually meant that shit, and there were more than I thought huh"||

I mean I like power slugs me irl

[cold berry]

I want power shards creatable without the slugs, but I want the slugs to still be a bottleneck early game because I like them and think they're cool. Does this still allow you to use power slugs, and you don't unlock the other method until later?

[tame bobcat]

is it normal to feel burn out on this game because i just finished phase 3 and phase 4 feels like a lot 😭

[cold berry]

I take breaks with factory games often for this reason. RPGs (and a lot of other games too) I suck at coming back to, but factory games feel like a new game when you open them up after a week sometimes. I think it's easier to come back to because the big machines are like, active records of what I've been working on (unlike other sandbox games). If it's been a really long time, I treat the save like those "half done" saves in some simulation games where in, say, roller coaster tycoon, you have to figure out what's going on with the park and make it better. But then because you did it you're like "who put these pipes here?! Oh yeah me lol"

Especially if you hit a road block. I try to have a story-narrative game or a simpler grinding game ready for it. If you have a strong computer (or a second rig), you can turn your settings down and let it auto craft while you play a different game, too. That way it still feels like you're playing.

||Sorry if that's not the advice you wanted lol||

[tall lantern]

good news, this is already a thing in vanilla

and given that there's over 5000 shards worth of slugs on the map, you're unlikely to run out unless you're actively trying

[scenic mirage]

😂 i just moved out of the usa in 2025 and im so happy i did

[sleek halo]

Hope 1.2 gonna be peak

[scenic mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a2JoLHEbfY

[sleek halo]

Alr seen ts

Randomizer is rlly good idea

But its not even confirmed lol

[scenic mirage]

they said theyre gonna announce the date when 1.2 goes on exp on 27/2

[sleek halo]

thats longggg

Itll be the end of vacation till this

[scenic mirage]

vacation?

[sleek halo]

Yh in France/europe i think theres vacations rn

idk for europe but for france it is vacation

[scenic mirage]

???? what lmao

france is part of europe

[sleek halo]

Yh but i mean

Vacation arent same for everyone

Even in the same continenzt

[scenic mirage]

i have 11 days saved up rn

i earn like 2 a month n i live in denmark

[sleek halo]

Oh i mean school vacations

Srry for misunderstanding

[scenic mirage]

thas me 😭 forgot not everyone got a job

[sleek halo]

lol its okay

[scenic mirage]

been working 6 days in a row and i got my 1 day off rn

then i got another 5 days

[sleek halo]

Holy

[scenic mirage]

paycheck gonna be fat tho 🤑

[sleek halo]

Nice

But is it worth ur time

[somber smelt]

which diamonds alt should i use?

[scenic mirage]

ye i make good money n its a rlly good work environment, everyones rlly nice

[sleek halo]

If u like it thats the main point

[scenic mirage]

whichever one makes the most sense for your current situation

[sleek halo]

Anyways i thibk im gonna rewatch that 8h 100% of satisfactory

[scenic mirage]

wont be my long time career but rn im def learning a lot

[modest creek]

how do i disable a single mod without uninstalling it?

[scenic mirage]

best to ask that in the modding server

[scenic mirage]

cant believe ada considers exploiting the planet as a "behavioral defect"

[glacial drum]

Ada seems to see most of what we do as defects

[neon forge]

me: "time to make a big building to wrap my phase 2 factory in"
my power grid failing: "lol, lmao even"

[ornate saffron]

Mayhaps power should cone first

[zenith pecan]

Always power first, you can't build much if the whole thing eats a black out.

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message Time to rest till 1.2

[scenic mirage]

251 hours? how far did you get

[glacial drum]

100%

[cold berry]

Power exists in Create Mod and this (the two factory games I'm playing rn) to make me sad. MineMogul exists to free me from the shackles (and put me in different shackles, physics simulation on the belts)

The point of factory games is to make me passively pissed off until I switch to the other factory game to cool off

I'm healthy I swear

[scenic mirage]

priority power switches >>>>

[scenic mirage]

finished phase 5?

[glacial drum]

Platinumed the game finally. Time to mess with my system clock and play ficsmas

[glacial drum]

Yea I got every trophy. Including the fuckass golden nut

[zenith pecan]

They're useful for remote controlling, but if you build your grid solidly, in the first place they're not needed.

[glacial drum]

I’d been saving tickets my entire playthrough and apparently I stored some outside of the depot at some point too

[cold berry]

B-But there are aesthetic things to buy 🙁

[glacial drum]

Think it’s time for a challenge run or maybe just a break till 1.2

[unkempt blade]

why are you being cranky about the best statue?

[glacial drum]

I bought everything besides the factory floor prints

[torpid estuary]

Hi! Throughput monitors for pipes will likely never be a thing, right?

[cold berry]

I'm running my factory while I'm at work. On my lunch break I'm putting all the excess into my Sink. I feel like a real gamer™

[glacial drum]

I’m gonna sink that damn statue!

[scenic mirage]

smth you can also do is have a weapons factory (sulfur, coal, etc) and remotely turn it on/off and you can keep using it for fuel or whatever else

[torpid estuary]

The environment is proud of you

[unkempt blade]

there's "Advanced Game Settings" if you don't want to actually play the whole game

[zenith pecan]

I tend to fire and forget with ammo, the depots make it even more leave it be, as you have a permanent on board freshing store of things that go boom.

[cold berry]

The environment can die, it keeps my ores from me until I pummel it into submission and then I burn the coal to dab on it

[cold berry]

Nah, this is just how I play automation games :p

[torpid estuary]

I was thinking more of our actual environment

[unkempt blade]

I bet you would have loved cookie clicker

[scenic mirage]

yeah i use a LOT of nobelisks and tend to run through a full industrial storage once a week, so i just use that sulfur and other stuff for fuel normally. whenever i need to reup, i just turn the weapons on and adjust for the power loss

[hybrid nymph]

You can craft them with computers with mods. With the balanced power shard mod

[zenith pecan]

Once I finish this side project of my copper basics to depot factory, I'm part way through running the numbers on feeding an ammo.

[cold berry]

(fair, I only do this every week or so tho so like, eh)

[zenith pecan]

Tell me about it, I had to switch to snowballs as I'm out of nobelisk and I still haven't finished running the numbers for the replacement ammo facility.

[hybrid nymph]

once you unlock the synthetic power shard recipe in the MAM you can buy them with AWESOME sink tickets

[cold berry]

I moved onto revolution idle

[hybrid nymph]

my favorite idle game back in the day was a tower defense game called "Ant Buster" on Addictinggames

[cold berry]

I like idle games. They slot into my automation game schedule very nicely. But I'm waiting for the next update for Revo Idle and others aren't enticing me lol

[hybrid nymph]

ahh flash games were my childhood, I didn't get my first video game console until I was 10

[glacial drum]

I wonder what a no alt recipes run would look like

Maybe even a no fuel power run

[neon forge]

it was working for a bit... then some of my other factories came back online from me picking stuff up and it pushed it over the edge LOL

[hybrid nymph]

all I had was the family computer, still to this day I haven't bought anymore games on consoles after Wii

[glacial drum]

That feels like it would be too much though

[hybrid nymph]

I'm a PC gamer

[cold berry]

I play PC like 90% of the time but I dabble in Nintendo because childhood. And I do more than dabble in Zelda but like I'm a super fan so

A lot of Nintendo shit has better fan games than the actual games now though. Like Pokerogue. I don't feel like playing a regular Pokemon game now lol

[hybrid nymph]

I just added 3 new mods to my modpack:
Glass fluid buffers
Megaprojects: power domain
awesome artifacts

I was soo poor I could only play real games at friend's houses all I had at home were yugioh cards, board games, and flash games

[obsidian flower]

Hello, I've been having a problem since this morning. I can't launch the game, and every time I click "Continue" to restart my game, it crashes and I get an error message that says: "An Unreal process has crashed: UE-FactoryGame". Could someone please help me? I've tried everything and I don't know what to do anymore 😢

[hybrid nymph]

I remember the first time I played a playstation 2 and I was wowed by it so much

[scenic mirage]

only absolute goats remember guest defense on roblox

[hybrid nymph]

I remember so many good flash games

my favorite flash game was on Nick.com those were the days, I played a Danny Phantom game called "freak out for all" and I sucked so bad at them, I didn't end up beating most of them until I was an adult

My all time favorite computer game, before I realized how much it sucked, was Wizard 101

I did end up beating it

[unkempt blade]

I'd probably try starting with forcing it to launch using a different option of dx11, dx12, or vulkan

[hybrid nymph]

4 years ago today I beat Wizard 101

[unkempt blade]

if you're on steam open game properties and you can add something like -dx11 to launch options

[hybrid nymph]

February 17th, 2022

[obsidian flower]

Unfortunately, I've tried absolutely everything and nothing works.

[hybrid nymph]

okay enuff about me. let's talk satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok, in that case you might try posting in #1038092680493801533 and list off what you already tried and people might know of something new

[torpid estuary]

I recently upgraded from a 970 to a 1060 to a 3080 ti and an AM4 Ryzen and I gotta say the game looks beautiful now

Especially with lumen. But RIP my electricity bill 😭

[hybrid nymph]

good for you, it tends to do that yes

[obsidian flower]

Okay, thanks, I'll see if someone can help me out of this.

[hybrid nymph]

I'm running a Ryzen 7 5800X Overclocked to 4.8GHz and a RTX 2070 Super Overclocked to 2070 MHz

yes I overclock my PC, deal with it

[torpid estuary]

wdym

[hybrid nymph]

and I have 32 GB of RAM

[torpid estuary]

Why should anyone take offense with OC?

[hybrid nymph]

I get a lot of hate for that in the computer groups, because apparently it's bad lol

I disagree

[torpid estuary]

I OCed for years

[hybrid nymph]

Same here, been doing it since 2020

[dreamy nest]

Ooook

[torpid estuary]

Means you get to use your old HW for longer

I don’t see how that would be bad

[dreamy nest]

I've never seen hate for over clocking lol

[torpid estuary]

Yeah strikes me as odd too

[hybrid nymph]

indeed, except my stupid CPU is a DUD and it only wants to overclock just 100MHz otherwise it always gives me a BSOD

[torpid estuary]

Ah well my old sandy bridge i7 was an OC monster

[hybrid nymph]

I have sufficient cooling, and I never exceed 1.4V

I'm using an AIO

[torpid estuary]

Actually made a significant difference in factorio

[hybrid nymph]

if you want more FPS, overclocking your GPU is the way to go

your GPU is special, it can take a real beating you might be able to get as much as an extra 300MHz of core clock speed out of it

[torpid estuary]

I won‘t because my current build is liquid water cooled and it’s not able to dissipate all that heat

It’s in a mini itx case which was not made for this at all

I bought it used like that

[scenic mirage]

i could overclock tbh

i have a ryzen 9 5950x and use a 360mm rad mounted on the front of the case

[torpid estuary]

Between the ryzen and the 3080 there is so much heat output that the thin 2x radiator can’t cope

[dreamy nest]

I never thought it was worth it

[scenic mirage]

and the case sits on the floor by my balcony which is always open

[torpid estuary]

And I am afraid the water temps would exceed 60°C

[scenic mirage]

and its like -5 celsius outside rn

[torpid estuary]

Are you not worried about condensation?

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[unkempt blade]

look it up 🙂

[torpid estuary]

Yeah fr

[scenic mirage]

look up what? condensation? 😭

[torpid estuary]

You are playing a dangerous game

Yes?

[unkempt blade]

depends how much you like your PC 🤷‍♂️

[scenic mirage]

i know what condensation is but idk how it relates to this 😭

[torpid estuary]

Then you don’t know what condensation is

[scenic mirage]

would you care explaining why its such a big deal then?

instead of acting like im commiting some unspeakable crime

[torpid estuary]

Go look up sub zero CPU cooling

There are videos from LTT

That demonstrate it very vividly

Better than I could explain on the phone right now

[zenith pecan]

I messed with it myself in the past, way long ago but it was an expensive mistake, no thanks haha.

[torpid estuary]

Yeah

[zenith pecan]

My computer kinda made this anticlimactic piff sound, and it was all over.

[torpid estuary]

Sounds about right

[unkempt blade]

it's either that or a battery fire for most electronics so you got the good outcome 🤣

[zenith pecan]

I've had that with my 2016 iPhone SE, made a lovely orange fireball + sparks.

[dawn bramble]

I'm not good at explaining things but

If it's cold outside and the windows fogs up, that's condensation

[unkempt blade]

and fog is water and water makes electronics sad 🙂

[torpid estuary]

As long as it’s not directly sitting outside and thus the air it draws in will mix with room air and be above 0°C you should be fine but I already don’t understand how one could leave open the door to the balcony in winter

[scenic mirage]

i like the cold lmao

and i live in a 20 sq meter apt so its a pretty nice temp inside

a ryzen 9 5950x and a 3090 gets pretty damn hot

[torpid estuary]

Do you not heat your apt then?

[scenic mirage]

nah i think the only times ive actually used heating was when i had friends over

[dawn bramble]

As long as your computer (talking to pretty much everyone here) isn't on carpet? you're chill

[scenic mirage]

oh god no id never put my computer on carpet

[torpid estuary]

wdym, are you worried your PC would fly away?

[dawn bramble]

It's a fire hazard

[torpid estuary]

Eh

Bit of a stretch

PCs are not known to frequently combust

[scenic mirage]

it can heat the carpet

and most people dont clean the fans and stuff on their computers often

[unkempt blade]

Depends if you'reblocking the vents or not. It's not so much a purely carpet thing

[scenic mirage]

im guilty of that myself 😭

[unkempt blade]

same reason you should clean your case out now and then

[torpid estuary]

PC air gets nowhere near hot enough to set anything on fire

not even close

[dawn bramble]

I mean my PC is in a cold basement (yes, it's out and I can play games on it)

[mortal belfry]

why does it say the orange block is occupied?
#screenshots

[cerulean dawn]

is there any way to report a game bug does anyone know?

[unkempt blade]

http://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[cerulean dawn]

cheers

[zenith pecan]

I tend to do maintenance every six months, though I have been running a crazy overclock for several years so making damn sure the machine is in a good state is wise.

[unkempt blade]

My current case has screens backing the vent covers so I'll just hit em with the vacuum when I'm doing the floors and then blow out all the inside stuff a bit less frequently

[zenith pecan]

Mine, less so, I'm using a fractal design meshify 2, great for airflow and cooling, less so for dust so I pull the machine apart and blast it out.

[unkempt blade]

getting rid of dust is waaaaay less effort if you don't let like the whole heatsink get crappified so I think it's worth it to do it regularly

vents and stuff are super easy compared to once it starts getting on actual parts

[eager palm]

True

[zenith pecan]

I get that, I don't take many chances, I super won the silicon lottery and don't want to nuke my cpu so I'm meticulous with its cleaning.

[unkempt blade]

those meshify cases are nice though. All that fractal stuff is so pleasant to build in

[cold sierra]

Which vehicle can go the deepest into water ?

[unkempt blade]

well the cyberwagon can function as a boat for short periods of time so I guess anything but those

[zenith pecan]

Are you trying to dive down for something?

[cold sierra]

I want to know which vehicle is the most fitted to cross shallow waters like rivers or sea between islands.

[unkempt blade]

factory cart for sure

[zenith pecan]

Oh right, not sure on that front, I thought you was trying to get a death crate off the sea bed or build there.

[cunning glade]

See yes but I just never know what too make and also I feel I build different each time so idk

[cold sierra]

No, I don't want to sink

[unkempt blade]

build a bridge 🙂

[cold sierra]

I don't really want to build bridges everywhere I want to cross a river.

[unkempt blade]

Have you tried driving across a river yet? You might not need it for all of them

you're asking a very broad question including "rivers or sea between islands" so it's hard to say what you need

[tall lantern]

does jetpack count as a vehicle, cus pretty sure that'll be the winner

[cold sierra]

I did but sometimes my vehicle get drowned and I have to dismantle it and rebuild and put back the inventory.

[tall lantern]

yes, that'll apply to most vehicles

[unkempt blade]

that's nature telling you that you need a bridge 🙂

[tall lantern]

this was a serious suggestion btw, jetpack is a great way to get around

a less serious suggestion: trains dgaf about where they're driven as long as they've got rails, go underwater as much as you like

[nocturne nebula]

can those charged boosters work 2 ways or do I need separate lines?

[tall lantern]

the what

[nocturne nebula]

hypertubes

[tall lantern]

you can have entrances on each end, yes

[nocturne nebula]

I mean when you group entrances together to boost

[cold berry]

Anyone here accidentally pissed on a vape before?

My discord was broken sorry

I was trying to fix it and it said it was in a different tab

[acoustic bear]

what the fuck kind of down bad shit is this?

[tall lantern]

the type best ignored

[unkempt blade]

Yeah as a certified vehicle enjoyer I'd still say the main reason to use vehicles for exploration is just fun/RP. It's almost always easier just bladerunner+jetpacking around

natural roads exist but it's pretty often going to take you out of your way to use it

[acoustic bear]

I spent a long time exploring with just pockets full of concrete building ramps where needed

or ziplining between power poles

I think that's how I found my jetpack on a hog

but all I had was solid biofuel and anything I found at crash sites

that was an excellent time

gosh this game is really pounding my PC now lol

late game is heavy AF on resources

if ram wasn't an arm and a leg I'd upgrade to 48GB

[graceful yoke]

Pissed? 😭

At that point you might as well smoke THC cause you must’ve been high asf!

[acoustic bear]

like are you that poor you can't replace whatever cheap vape?

vapes are notoriously cheap

[ionic tundra]

So I'm making a base, not really just 1 factory
It's gonna be these compact 4x4 builds but they make 10MF, 10RIP, 10 Rotors all per minute on a massive foundation
For stuff like quarts, caterium and sulphur, should I just do that into one factory?

[graceful yoke]

Are you that addicted to keep buying them? I was on them for a few years and now stopped!

[acoustic bear]

this too

(as I'm actively vaping)

quitting is for losers

[graceful yoke]

Trying to quit?

[acoustic bear]

no

[graceful yoke]

"quitting is for losers" say that when ur 6 feet deep from Vape Lung

[acoustic bear]

lol

I'm more likely to just get lung cancer from pollution

[cold berry]

It was just my test message to my wife because my discord was broken lol but it sent here

It was meant to be funny. I don't vape lol. Aside from occasional THC but I prefer to smoke or eat that anyway

Or if a friend offers a hit and I didn't secretly think they're disgusting

[stoic nebula]

i found something amazing

[spark escarp]

👀

[stoic nebula]

epic the musical

[jolly belfry]

Anyone know how to turn of this crackling sound of the radiation specifically? I've been building a waste recycling plant for the past 2 hours and the constant geiger counter noises are starting to make me go insane

[restive quarry]

can you make a free dedicated server?

[heavy spear]

Guys whats the best way of dumping water from my battery factory

[acoustic bear]

usually you run it back into another circuit that needs water

[hollow hemlock]

find some way to use it in another machine, perhaps in an earlier step, or wet concrete can consume lots of water, so can coal generators

[heavy spear]

I am thinking of using it for wet concrete and sinking the concrete

[acoustic bear]

doesn't batteries need alumina solution which means water?

[heavy spear]

I have a full oc pump for that

[acoustic bear]

just turn it down a bit and run the water into that intake

that's what I did pretty usre

[unique trail]

hey i have the architctural mods and more buildable item mod but where can i foind it ingame? no in the build menue or in the shop

[acoustic bear]

awesomeshop?

[unique trail]

there is nothing

it should more than 300 new item

[acoustic bear]

idk about mods myself

[cunning glade]

It'd be cool if u could drag a conveyer thru a line or splitters and connect them all

Connecting 100s of splitters sucks

[dusky edge]

Hey I have experienced a strange bug , my inventory was full and I was dismanteling some storage unit and it didn't create a dismantling crate . I lost like 4 mercer sphere . I searched on the website if someone already experienced this bug but didn't find anything . And also now every time I dismantle with a full inventory no dismanteling crates spawns...

[cunning glade]

There is one on the map

That one will have everything in it untill it fills up

[dusky edge]

Oooh

Thanks

[cunning glade]

Yeah use the interactive map too find it if u need too

U can filter the whole map for just that and upload ur save too it

[dusky edge]

Thanks

[cunning glade]

Ofc:)

[spice osprey]

If I build out past the bottom of the map using foundations, is there an outer limit?

[ornate saffron]

You can download the free dedicated software on steam and run it locally

[ornate saffron]

The death box. When you feel pain you have reached the soft limit.

At that point you can use the hover pack and hover just above it. Your reach into the death box is the hard limit

[copper grail]

should I move my base to the dune desert or should I stay in the grass fields

[hollow hemlock]

you should do both

[ornate saffron]

You can build your factories where ever you wish. I disassemble my hub and move it to where my current focus is

[copper grail]

What if I want a mega factory

[spice osprey]

Gotcha. I was hoping to use the open space as a way to expand without hitting anything, but I'll build in towards the rest of the continent instead

[cosmic adder]

How do i make smelter factory with mk2 belts....?It aint gonna move enough raw materials no?

[nocturne nebula]

is there an achievement for collecting all the slugs?

[copper grail]

I got a console achievement for collecting all 3 types

[ornate saffron]

Your belts are always going to be your through put limit. If you are using four iron nodes run 4 mk2 belts feeding 4 manifolds

[copper grail]

Idk tho

[cosmic adder]

So basicly make bunch of mini factories in that big factory? until i get better belts?

[ornate saffron]

The manifolds can be in one factory or many. The choice is yours.

[cosmic adder]

Gocha, ty

[spice osprey]

Are your miners outputting more than your belts can handle?

[ornate saffron]

Is so clock your miners accordingly.

[unkempt blade]

yeah all the way to 250% then get better belts!

[west jackal]

What are yalls opinions on making interstates of train tracks as soon as I unlock them? 🙃

Like having them span the map so I can always get where I need

[glacial drum]

I’d like to play another run of the game but I dislike the thought of dealing with those nasty nasty spiders without nuclear bombs again

[unkempt blade]

trains are fun just keep an eye on your power graph if you build it out super early like that

[glacial drum]

Plus my first run took over 250 hours..

[west jackal]

Maybe like 4 vert 4 horizontal tracks, then they can branch out from there

[unkempt blade]

... you're saying 16 rails in parallel basically?

[west jackal]

Lol I keep resetting, I don't think ive officially beat the game yet (although I have many times before they added the end of the game)

[glacial drum]

Honestly with how much I stressed about feeling slow to progress I’m not too sure a 2nd run is the best for me mentally

[west jackal]

Uhh not in parallel, 4 in parallel and another 4 in parallel that intersect the originals with ramps to join the others, like irl highways

[nocturne nebula]

hey me too ... I literally wiped all my old saves, started a fresh called Endurance Challenge with the intent to make it all the way, lol

I have had to slow down and not rush, and just enjoy it again

[unkempt blade]

I'd stick to 2 rails going in opposite directions (IRL road style)

you probably won't need more, if you do build it then

[west jackal]

So 1 central rail just with branches?

[glacial drum]

I think my main issue was wanting to make a new factory for EVERY item. I would have already made a 12 RCU factory and I’d need 2 for a new factory so I’d completely remake 2/min instead of just.. taking 2/12 from the main factory

[nocturne nebula]

wow, I got yeeted OUT of my hypertube part way through it

[glacial drum]

Maybe I can try a mega or more close together set of factories for another run

[west jackal]

It can happen if you go too fast, edit- used too, I assume it still does

[unkempt blade]

this intersection is fancier than necessary but kind of shows how I'd do 2 rails #screenshots message

[nocturne nebula]

lucky was wearing the hover pack, lol

[west jackal]

Looks quite nice. I assume those roads are used by trucks too?

And does that fit on blueprint machine?

[unkempt blade]

yeah I use a big of each vehicle type, there are carts, tractors, trucks on the road

[west jackal]

Shi

I think im gonna try to do something like that. I just need to figure out how to make the road look nice

[mortal ginkgo]

what is that monstrosity brotherman of century

[unkempt blade]

The intersection is very large so if you wanted to try to BP it you'd have to do it in chunks. I do have BPs for the roads now #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I used to play a lot of cities skylines

[west jackal]

Shi those look nice but if I was driving explorer on it, id feel like i was in mario kart 😂

[fresh quail]

Is it supposed to be like that I can get the turbo fuel alternate recipe before I even unlocked the normal recipe for it?

[swift turret]

no you shouldnt have access unless you already unlocked it in the mam

[fresh quail]

Weird, because I got it before I even unlocked it in the Mam

[west jackal]

unless you have an old save from before it went into the mam

(i believe it was U6 that they went into the mam)

yes i remember back when they updated to U2 i think, the cost of it went up a lot and broke my fuel plant, and then (checked the wiki) U6 is when it went into mam

[calm latch]

I wish the steam achievements retroactively unlocked. I don't want to make a new game and spend the time completing phase 1 and 2 again just to unlock the achievements for them

[distant bay]

Or completing the entirety of onboarding again

[swift turret]

do you have the blender

[calm latch]

[fresh quail]

No

[calm latch]

Then there's the "gather somersloops, mercer spheres and hard drives" achievements too

[swift turret]

then idk

[fresh quail]

I don’t have any other safe and never unlocked it before. I mean my save was created a long time ago so I don’t know, maybe it was something with an update which made the game think I already have it

[west jackal]

thats very weird

[crude holly]

What had been confirmed with the new qna?

[calm latch]

Well, there's two avenues of thought you could take here: 1. You unlocked it a long time ago and don't remember, in which case, you're all set. Or 2. The game randomly has given you the recipe without the need of spending a hard drive, in which case, you come out net positive so no sense in worrying about it

[west jackal]

its also possible if you were mucking around with the interactive map that you gave it to yourself on there, there is a setting to do that

can you use items out of dim depot without putting in inventory? (i know this works for building) but does it work for jetpack or radiation/gas masks?

does ammo/nobelisks work in this same way

[green fiber]

I don't think it does

Only works for the build gun and craft bench

[west jackal]

aw, okay thank you

[ornate saffron]

Rain

[crude holly]

Nice

[night sail]

I finally Unlocked aluminium production NOW THE NIGHTMARE BEGINS!!!

[west jackal]

aluminum is fun, as long as you can deal with all the water

[ornate saffron]

Make it rain wet cement

[night sail]

See that's the part I know I am going to mess up

[distant bay]

If there was only an awesome sink that accepts fluid inputs looks at pc modded satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

I have all my concrete needs coming from one impure node atm. I trying to hold off til aluminum

[ornate saffron]

Naw that just removing challenge

[night sail]

Ooh that's a nice idea

[distant bay]

Are you on pc?

[night sail]

Yup

[unkempt blade]

it's just such a limited use case that can be handled in other ways using vanilla sink

[distant bay]

Yeah but at least your not wasting iron in packages(or whatever they are called)

[night sail]

Why the f can't I find a single pure bauxite node all of the ones I find are either normal or impure

[dusk mirage]

Hey guys,
having all recipes. Either oil + water into fuel and polymer resin --> polymer resin + water into plastic + rubber
Or standard way and get fuel as a byproduct
What is better?
I am like overwhelmed by how many possibilies there are 🙈

[dusk mirage]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[unkempt blade]

It's not wasting if it enables your factory to run how you intend. You're not going to run out of available resources on any normal kind of save

[tall lantern]

just use two normals

[unkempt blade]

or OC a normal to 200% if you're not depending on an OC for the pure

[tall lantern]

presumably you'll get different output numbers for each of those chains, so whichever gives you the ratio you want

if you do use the fuel-based one though, make sure it's set up in such a way the resin can't back up (easily solved, just something to bear in mind), otherwise your power'd also go out

[tall lantern]

there are almost always better ways to deal with fluid byproducts (usually recycling into the same production chain they come from).
the only thing that really comes to mind is the very first oil-based setups people do where they just flush the byproduct, but you can also convert that into more useful products (usually folks recommend coke for either sinking or power)

[distant bay]

how do you guys transport plastic/rubber from the production area back to the main factory to be used? trains?

[tall lantern]

that's one option, though at that stage of the game you should generally stop thinking about having a "main factory"

[ornate saffron]

Trains can do it. Personally I try to just use them where they are produced.

[fickle locust]

I made a giant oil products factory and have trains delivering from there to wherever the products are needed

[fresh quail]

Why does my train not use its second Freight Car? It always uses the first one and leaves the second one empty

[dreamy nest]

@fresh quail can you send a screenshot of the train in the train station

You need a freight platform for each car, which is usually the problem

[crude holly]

They need to make a more advanced item sink

One that is specifically smaller

That’s all it needs

[dreamy nest]

I'm sure there's a mod for that

[stone quiver]

No main factory here, not everything has to cross country journey to some big factory

[dusk mirage]

it is my first oil prod. i figured it out to go with 240 crude oil into 80 rubber, 80 plastic, 80 fuel
half the plastic is for empty canisters to fill the fuel. with that i can fill up my fuel gens when i get this milestone. or do i need unpacked fuel for those gens? 😄

[fresh quail]

Oh thats the problem then. I have two train station and thought if the train has two freight cars, it uses one for each train station

[dreamy nest]

Nope, you need a freight platform for each car at each station where you want it to load or unload

If you have a three station train line it gets more complicated

Happy to help you more in DMs if you want to send pics of your train and talk details of implementation

[wary falcon]

i just got electromagnetic control rods unlocked, is making 100permin reasonable based on its usage or no?

[heavy spear]

No you meed around 500

Per second

[wary falcon]

💀

[dreamy nest]

Is there a mk3 blueprint machine

[tall lantern]

fuel gens use liquid fuel, so you won't need to package it

[acoustic bear]

yes

it's only slightly larger

48x48x48 vs 40x40x40

[dreamy nest]

Hrm

Maybe I need a mod then lol

[tall lantern]

or make more modular blueprints

(or just place stuff by hand)

[crude canyon]

do you guys prefer doing stuff and then see what you can build from there, build the stuff just for a specific thing

[tall lantern]

wat

[acoustic bear]

I do a mix of both

I prep a few ingot factories and then build my stuff out of that

[tall lantern]

do you mean like, make 100 rods and then work out what to do with those, vs making a plan for modular frames right off the bat? if so, definitely the latter

trying to predict future usage is impractical, and building a giant facility (that you may not even need) early on means you can't tailor your production to new recipes and local resource availability

[lunar python]

I often plan which item i want or need. Plan where and which resources are closest/more efficient. And plop down a remote factory for it

[unkempt blade]

yeah vibe production is the way

[acoustic bear]

I just kinda bumble along and shit gets done slowly

break it down into as small of chunks as you need to

it helps when you can use the blueprinter to scale your production and kinda print various blocks of production and hook them up

I also definitely benefited from realizing that 100% efficiency is basically impossible in some of the higher tiers and you should be happy if you can reach like 80% efficiency in your process and get some output rather than none at all

[warm finch]

I pick a number that I think is good or doable, and then work backwards. I try to always produce more than I think I'll need so I can sink whatever I don't use. While also thinking about how I can scale it up further if I miscalculated and need to make more later

[crude canyon]

tbf, you'll never be like "I wish I already had made the 50 modular frames I need rn, that would save me a lot of trouble"

[stray patio]

is there anyway to make custom to-do lists?

[crude canyon]

press equipment/codex, and click on the right most side

[stray patio]

what button T-T

ahhh

[crude canyon]

equipment is tab

[stray patio]

i was being stupid mb Thanks!

[median geyser]

Im having some issues with water flow at my coal generators, wondering where I can post a diagram ive drawn of how my pipes are layed out? Its a very small one, 3 water extractors feeding 11 coal generators

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media or #1038092680493801533 depending on whether you're wanting to open a thread.

unless it's a diagram doodled over a screenshot, in which case #screenshots

[covert quarry]

i don't think 3 water extractors is enough to feed 11 coal generators, i use 1 water extractor to feed 2 coal generators but i believe it can feed 3. using a 1:2 ratio is the easiest way to go

[median geyser]

#off-topic-media message The relevant diagram. It might not be the right ratio, I can fix that later, but its currently only feeding like 4 of them properly, with flow issues to the rest, and Im only getting like 130water/s at both ends of the system as it enters the coal generator area, so its definitely not right

[shadow talon]

I put the generators above the extractors

[dire trail]

hey guys im looking for a blueprint for conveyer buses to carry stuff around and look cleaner than just travelling along the ground

[covert quarry]

i mean wait until all generators are filled with water then start the process, also use power shards and with some math u can equally divide how many generators you can feed

[covert quarry]

try looking on satisfactory calculator

[median geyser]

I did prime the water and coal properly, this is definitely a water flow issue. From the second my pipes hit the first junctions where I bond the 3 pumps together, I am instantly getting 1/2 flow rate, so ive done the junctions wrong, i just dont know how

I thought piping 1 to each end of the system and splitting the third between the 2 would balance things, but apparently not

[shadow talon]

can the pipes hold that much water?

[shadow talon]

Are they pumping to the generators fast enough?

[covert quarry]

keep in mind ur pipes can only move 300 cubic meters of water maximum

[median geyser]

Most of my pipes are less than 10% full, so it doesntmatter

Water extractors are pumping at full efficiency

[shadow talon]

I would say add more water extractors

[median geyser]

Doesnt matter, ive tried

[shadow talon]

Ratio 1 extractor : 2 generators

[median geyser]

see the diagram above for pipe layout, its a flow issue, i just dont know how to diagnose it

[shadow talon]

Make them go directly to the generator instead of combineing

Extractor - > Generator
Extractor - > Generator
Extractor - > Generator

[covert quarry]

if ur on playstation slide me ur id i can send you my layout

[median geyser]

you mean pipe 1 extractor per generator? that seems horrifically redundant and seems more like avoiding my issue

[shadow talon]

Extractor to 2 generators

[median geyser]

I appreciate the bypassing solutions, but Id much rather figure out what I did wrong so that its not an issue im back in here for every time i touch a pipe :/

Im a fucking moron, at some point I must have missed while disassembling stuff and cut the power line to 1 of the water pumps after priming everything 😂

[acoustic bear]

totally done that

[warm finch]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[covert quarry]

i extractor gets 120 cubic meters and 1 generator need 45 cubic meters so use 1 extractor for 2 generators or use power shards that way you can power up more generators per extractor it's really up to you. Simplest way is 2:1 ratio

[warm finch]

No you're not. Welcome to satisfactory. Lol.

[sleek halo]

In my first playthrough idk why but i wanted everything in my base so I DID THE PIPE FOR 700M TILL MY BASE AND GOD KNOWS HOW ITS HARD TO PIPE ON LONG DISTANCES

[acoustic bear]

it's easy to pipe stuff long distances with blueprinted pipe and autoconnect

[covert quarry]

my advice is line out everything perfectly to avoid getting problems like this mid to late game it will be a nightmare😂

[sleek halo]

I was a little dumbass that doesnt use blueprint

And autoconnect is new isnt it?

[median geyser]

Im familiar with the ratios, its a non-issue, this is just a quickly snapped together first automated power, and even if my ratios were right, it was 3 extractors feeding 4 generators, so it was still an underlying flow issue 😂

[covert quarry]

i spent like 4 hours doing that😭

[sleek halo]

We could js build there..

[acoustic bear]

might be, I'm newisht too

[covert quarry]

yeah fr i just wanted all my power sources in 1 place but thats so dumb

[median geyser]

thanks for the feedback fellas, im gonna leave it going while at work and we will see what kind of disaster i come home to 😂

[sleek halo]

Next playthrough ill go into dune desert

[covert quarry]

can someone spoil me how hard tier 9 is?

[sleek halo]

I do the 3rd one in all my playthrough

[sleek halo]

Quantic time fucking new temporalities are created

And wormhole

Idk if my grammar is good im not native

[warm finch]

Not hard, if you do a lot of automation utilizing mk3 miners and mk5 belts. Much easier if you use mk6 belts.

Phase 5 is taking everything you've learned from tiers 1-8 and combining them into 1 production line

[floral jasper]

lemme get an oh-way-oh

[dreamy nest]

Sorry dumb followup question. When you say 48x48 - how many of those units is one foundation

Is it 8?

I assume the unit is meters but I'm not positive lol

[fluid sapphire]

I'd say phase 5 entirely depends on the groundwork you've laid in phase 4. If you've done your homework, phase 5 should be pretty short

[tall lantern]

yeah foundations are 8m wide

[dreamy nest]

Ah ok tyvm

[dusk mirage]

Hey guys,
first oil prod. 240 crude oil into 80 plastic, 80 rubber and 80 fuel. fuel into 4 fuel gens. sounds great. But how can I fix a full container of rubber/plastic? if they are full there will be no more heavy oil residue --> no more fuel --> losing 1000 MW power
Sink solution? But i do not wanna lose all the plastic/rubber 😅

[tall lantern]

smart splitter before the storage

(MAM research)

[ornate saffron]

😏 I also new

[dreamy nest]

Can you like smart splitter one way until full and then it will automatically go to the other way once it's full or something?

[tall lantern]

yes

[dreamy nest]

IDK how it works, sorry

[tall lantern]

common setup to have, storage+sink

[dreamy nest]

How do you use the smart splitter to do that sorry, I haven't used them much

[tall lantern]

set the sink side to overflow, and the storage side to Any (or the specific item)

[forest tangle]

I have a fast question I got a hard drive with the recipe for charcoal on it. This is my first playthrough, so I have a tier list of all the recipes ready to go. But charcoal isn't on the list is charcoal good it seems good other than the fact that it pins me to going out and getting resources on my own

[dreamy nest]

Thank you

[tall lantern]

obligatory "tier lists are questionable at best and definitely not universal as they tend to be biased by the author's preferences and ignore downsides"

but yeah, needing a hand-obtained resource for any sort of ongoing automation isn't usually something people are interested in

[forest tangle]

The other option was iron wire, which I find very interesting for the ability to ignore copper until later and set up a sub part production facility with on iron almost exclusively

[ornate saffron]

You can also leave the options in the queue and not pick either. This removes them from the pool until you select one

[tall lantern]

which would you have more of a use for in your upcoming factories? if one jumps out, pick it

[forest tangle]

I guess I get them all by the end anyway right?

[ornate saffron]

There are more hard drives then recipes. So yes you can get then all

[forest tangle]

I did hear about this, and I have been doing it. I have a couple of hard drives with just pure garbage on them

[ornate saffron]

Its mostly opinion based as mentioned above. The biocoal option is great in some cases. For example I use it for weapons ammo

[tall lantern]

you never know, they might come in handy at some point

not only are alt worths subjective, but they change depending on what you have to hand. Iron Wire's a good example there, it's a tad less efficient in raw ore counts, but if you've got iron and no copper, it gives you options

[fluid sapphire]

Iron wire is part of the chain that lets you make motors of iron only

Big fan of that chain personally, seeing as iron is the second most abundant resource on the map

[spice osprey]

What’s the most abundant? Are you counting something like leaves?

[fluid sapphire]

Water

[tall lantern]

probably water

[fluid sapphire]

Even better, you can combine iron and water for motors

[spice osprey]

I guess I ended up in a not so great starting location then? I have to pipe water kinda a long ways

[ornate saffron]

Just dont move the water. Move the parts to the water ^-^

The game is designed around you spreading out like a infection

[tall lantern]

you're a long way off being able to do that water+iron recipe anyway

[fluid sapphire]

If you want to do something that needs a lot of water, you can just do it where the water is, that's easier than piping water long way

[fluid sapphire]

Well, not that long :p

[tall lantern]

but yeah, it's almost always better to move solids to fluids if you have to move either

(but better to just build in place where you can and not have to move anything a significant distance)

[tall lantern]

start of T3 to somewhere in T5 is a fair way yet

[fluid sapphire]

You can get through phase 3 like that, for the most part, in phase 4 moving stuff around is inevitable

[spice osprey]

My base in the very bottom left corner of the map, near the pure coal node that's on a little island. I built the coal power plant right there since I needed Mk2 belts for it, and I didn't have enough reinforced Iron plates to send it all the way up to the water just north of there. So I ended up piping the water down to that island

[tall lantern]

think outside the box: 2 mk1 belts

if that's where I think it is then that particular piping probably isn't too bad luckily

[spice osprey]

Yeah. My sense of scale is really small since I just started. Everything seems far away now, but I know I’m just in one tiny little corner

The good part was, even though the water had to travel a distance, it was almost all down hill

[brittle seal]

does someone know how much MW you get with the 2100 uran into fuel rods and then into plutonium fuel rods? (not making those ficosnium rods or what they are called)

[tall lantern]

depends what recipes you use, naturally

[brittle seal]

if you prioritzie the uranium

[fluid sapphire]

Consider this spot, its not that far #screenshots message

It's quite popular

[tall lantern]

without looking I'm guessing that's the enclosed lake

[fluid sapphire]

Yeap

[bronze nimbus]

anyone know if the global rail networks made for 1.0 still works fine in 1.1?

[ornate saffron]

Anything made in 1.0 should have no issues in 1.1

[fathom shuttle]

1.4GW

TW

[spice osprey]

Is there a difference in power consumption between putting a machine in standby or just letting it get backed up so it can’t produce anything?

[tall lantern]

not really, no

I think idle machines miiiight use 0.1MW and standby ones not?

if there is a difference it's negligible

[spice osprey]

I just looked it up on the wiki. It says that whether the switch is flipped or there's a logistical issue, it both counts as "stnadby mode" and both draw 0.1 MW. The only way to draw no power would be to disconnect it from the grid.

[tall lantern]

makes sense. still negligible either way, even a tiny coal power setup could handle 3000 of those

[cold berry]

Ramming through progression now tho what up

Finished tier 3 and 4 pretty much as soon as every pod returned

Found a quartz node and I'm making glass soon, so I'm allowing myself to build now you see

[spice osprey]

Yeah I’m not worried about that at all. I was mostly just asking if there was a reason to turn a machine off if I ran out of storage or something like that

[tall lantern]

ah, nah not really. Though generally beyond the early stages, you'll have permanently active production lines that send their excess to a Sink instead of shutting down

(and may retrofit the old iron/copper setups to do so)

[zenith pecan]

I completely replaced my old iron/copper very recently to free up the nodes for heavy industry.

[cold berry]

Retrofit be a good looking puff jacket ayyye

[balmy orbit]

What do yall use to get awesome shop coupons? random items, or do you set up a factory with something to feed it?

[covert quarry]

what is the best heavy modular frame recipe?

[dreamy nest]

It depends on what you have an excess of

[covert quarry]

i mean i prefer to have a lot produced

[dreamy nest]

Look at your recipes and look at your factory and make a judgment call

There isn't always a best clear-cut recipe

[covert quarry]

thanks

[acoustic bear]

the ones that don't use screws

[unkempt blade]

the vanilla recipe is the best one

[balmy orbit]

got a recepie where screws dont need rods, sped up the process but screws still feel slow

[acoustic bear]

there is one that uses encased beams and steel pipes and you can also get a recipe for making encased beams from concrete + steel pipes so you can use steel pipes at both steps

[covert quarry]

wait does that use screws😭

[unkempt blade]

ya most of the HMF recipes do

[covert quarry]

wait which one gives the most output idc what the ingrediênts are

[acoustic bear]

so then it becomes concrete, steel pipes and modular frames basically

[unkempt blade]

this one uses the most screws per HMF though

[pallid ridge]

I'm planning to produce 10 adaptive control units per minute. Should i use caterium based recipe for the computer?

[covert quarry]

even with that recipe of 20 ingots?

[zenith pecan]

Just produce the screws next to the machine that uses them, I don't see the issue.

[acoustic bear]

again, the recipes that don't use screws have significant parts overlap

[unkempt blade]

the new player hivemind has decided screw recipes are literally unplayable

[balmy orbit]

havent seen that one actually

[covert quarry]

wait does it also require screw cz theres 2 of them

[acoustic bear]

steel pipes + concrete + modular frames becomes encased beams and heavy modular frames

[covert quarry]

its so good tbh

[acoustic bear]

no, the one I use doens't use screws at all

[unkempt blade]

only if you're using bolted frames which is the best mod frame recipe

[balmy orbit]

sounds neat, last time i played i have a vauge memory u could completely remove the usage of screws, is that still a thing?

[unkempt blade]

it's 2026 we're out here screwmaxing like champions now

[covert quarry]

i see cz it also uses rubber...

[zenith pecan]

With me scaling up computers etc, I need to be mindful of resource efficiency because I don't need to be hailing basics across 6km.

[balmy orbit]

buddy is screwin around

[acoustic bear]

steeled frame + encased industrial pipe + heavy encased frame

[covert quarry]

thanks

[acoustic bear]

those all overlap considerably

so you make steel pipe mostly and you're 75% of the way there

[cold berry]

I wanna. Ah chocolate factory. But I uh cannot get that