satisfactory

[elfin smelt]

both

[mossy finch]

how, what police can arrest you for it 😭 ?

[waxen locust]

yea, obtaining a cracked version of a game, it's piracy. which is illegal XD

[mossy finch]

kinda

[elfin smelt]

💀

[waxen locust]

if they find out. yea

[mossy finch]

police arrest you bc you cracked a game or a video or something? XD

[waxen locust]

it's just as illegal as stealing something from a store. because it's the same act, but one is digital

[elfin smelt]

just save it your breath, this conversation is going longer than it should

[tall lantern]

things are generally illegal whether you're caught or not 😅

[mossy finch]

fair

[tall lantern]

should really move off this topic though yeah

[waxen locust]

agreed-

[elfin smelt]

we are just giving friendly advise that is never a good idea to mention that, regarless of your circumstances

[waxen locust]

tho it is shocking people don't know getting a game that costs money. for free. is illegal XD

[mossy finch]

ofc it is, im just sayin have you heard someone got punished for it? maybe is the usa or sum

[tall lantern]

and hopefully now they have learned

[distant sparrow]

In poland its only illegal to distribute pirated games and stuff
Downloading it is legal tho if you find a place to get it from

[mossy finch]

as someone said, "You are much more likely to get eaten by a shark than to get arrested for simply downloading pirated games" xD

[waxen locust]

Has anyone noticed, Since they added the "sample building" to copy the colour and recipe of a building. If you do it for a light. it provides lgiht even unpowered.

[elfin smelt]

the secret formula for free power

[waxen locust]

I mean, it fixes itself once you reload the game. but yea essentally XD

[elfin smelt]

why aren't people doing this in real light for free energy smh

we never have to reload the real life game after all

[waxen locust]

true- Free light for everyone

[spark ruin]

👀

[waxen locust]

sadly you have to copy it from an already powered light

[spark ruin]

okay but after that you can remove the light once you are done right ?

[waxen locust]

yea you can remove it after XD. but again, once you reload the game, it'll correct itself

I do wish the godrays from the lights wasn't a thing. they actively make me not want to use them

[zenith pecan]

I had the same issue, I switched to using blueprinted glass foundations with embedded billboards to work as light sources, they're smaller and fit within a ceiling to boot.

[waxen locust]

actively gonna steal this-

[zenith pecan]

This is a brief showcase of all 21 light prints #design-and-architecture message

Keep in mind, the billboards are a complete pain to nudge into place, but the effect was worth it.

[waxen locust]

wish I was that creative

[unkempt blade]

the other thing I like about using signs as pseudo lights is they snap really easy onto the angled wall pieces #screenshots message

the tilt on the spot lights is annoying to adjust imo

[waxen locust]

I do use signs as lights, but yea- those looks really good

[cosmic adder]

Whats the diff between capacity and production on power?

Why it aint making all 370MW but instead only 109

[waxen locust]

it's only really in effect when you biomass burners. Personally I think its there for only 2 reasons
relic of the past
biomass burners on the only ones who self regulate, so they produce lower power to conserve fuel, where as capacity is what you would get if you had all generates at full tilt

well. make it 3 reasons. it makes the graph look nice with a 2x2 of options. rather than a line of 3 options

[cosmic adder]

So it still will do 370Mw, but only when it will need? And yes, im rn on biomass burners

[waxen locust]

yup. once you get off biomass burners. all generators will always go at 100% tilt

[cosmic adder]

Gocha, thanks you :>

[waxen locust]

not a problem

[nocturne nebula]

@distant dawn you just broke my mind! 😄
#screenshots message

Cannot COMPUTE!

why do you need to balance if your belts are saturated? lol

[strong fiber]

Its time to start a new world

😭

[nocturne nebula]

Exciting ... I did this 3 days ago

[strong fiber]

Not excited for the biomass burner spam

[nocturne nebula]

lol

[waxen locust]

when phrased like this. my mind immediatly said that "the pioneer is an isekai protagonist"

[nocturne nebula]

atleast they can be automated now

[strong fiber]

Where should i start

[tall lantern]

whichever of the start positions take your fancy

the game recommends Grassy Fields for first timers and I'd be inclined to agree, but any work

[nocturne nebula]

i'm a fan of the dunes, further south where the flat part and lake is

[nocturne nebula]

not his first time, he's restarting

[tall lantern]

in that case, ignore the second half of my answer 😛

[strong fiber]

Dunes it is then

[nocturne nebula]

lol

🫡

[tall lantern]

could always just load in wherever and move somewhere else. Start in the red forest

[strong fiber]

800 hours might as well be starting out

[nocturne nebula]

grassy fields can still be fun

gotta scale up transport there for those impure nodes

[tall lantern]

if I ever start again I may well go from grassy fields for the nostalgia

[strong fiber]

I started grassy fields in my last play through

It was fun

[nocturne nebula]

I've restarted too many times at all locations

I have titled my latest game Endurance Challenge and wiped the other saves

rarely got past aluminium before getting drained

unfortunate considering this is my all time fav game

[zenith pecan]

I have a considerable amount of aluminium available for use this save 😄

[nocturne nebula]

now I have learned to slow down, not rush ... if I get the fresh start craving, then just gather some supplies and work on a project elsewhere in the world

[nocturne nebula]

you enjoy balancing the by products?

sink wet concrete or merge the water back in?

[zenith pecan]

The main refinery has 20 individual clusters of refineries inside, each falls into three groups, single freshwater refinery clocked at 90%, two wastewater only refineries clocked at 105%, and the four refineries that produce the scrap.

No loops or mixed feeds, just pure math.

[nocturne nebula]

good for you man

sinking the end product to ensure no backing up?

[zenith pecan]

The place handles all the bauxite on the map.

[nocturne nebula]

what your frames like?

[zenith pecan]

There is an output sink in the tunnels that overflow to it so I can take or leave ingots as I require them.

[nocturne nebula]

cool

[zenith pecan]

I just screened it, here you go #screenshots message

[nocturne nebula]

oh thats nice

my monitor only goes upto 100 hz

but the resolution is ultra wide 1440p

colours super vivid too being a samsung

[zenith pecan]

Mine is a standard 16x9, no ultrawide for me, though they are 2160p.

[nocturne nebula]

nice

whats your GPU?

[zenith pecan]

Old by todays standards, rtx3090.

[nocturne nebula]

nice, I am on team red .,.. 6950xt

also a lil old, lol

bought the best of the previous gen cos there where rumours about the 7 series being flawed ... unfortunately that was gossip and I could have gotten more for the same price with the 7x

wow I just realized ... in like 3-4k hours in this game I have barely ever used the factory cart

[zenith pecan]

I haven't bought a newer gpu because mine so far has held up well, and I really don't want to be doing a soldering job to make good the shocking power connector that is the high power 2x6 ..

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, high end tech does last a good while

you'll get many years yet out of yours

[zenith pecan]

I've already had to replace its fans and repaste though 🤣

[nocturne nebula]

I just did a quick search ... mine out performs yours by only 5%

I thought about water cooling mine ... wasn't brave enough, lol

[zenith pecan]

I probably made up that 5% though as I have overclocked it by 11%

[nocturne nebula]

nice

mine came pre clocked I think

[zenith pecan]

Couldn't go higher, well I did but it was unstable and loved to bsod haha.

It came clocked out the box, I pushed it harder.

[glacial drum]

Alright nerds how much BWD did yall make first time around

[zenith pecan]

Right now I'm wiring up a causeway that leads from the spire into the canyon area.

[nocturne nebula]

I got one only yesterday for the first time in like a year

oh wow, my GPU can be had for 50% the cost of yours @zenith pecan

thats WILD for a similar specced card

[zenith pecan]

I'm not surprised, I bought mine on release day, less than a week later, the price doubled, then shot up further.

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, thats nuts

mine was fortunate timing too

[sweet arch]

guys i have 1 singular supercomputer, sounds like a good item. should i just Sink it?

[zenith pecan]

Put it on display, sinking one SC won't yield much.

[nocturne nebula]

only if super early game

you in need of points?

[sweet arch]

yeah im pretty early game, im still on like just a few thousand points for coupons, like 4k or something. just not sure if i would need the supercomputer for any reason

[nocturne nebula]

I believe if you hover over the item it tells you how many points?

or maybe its in that N menu

[unkempt blade]

getting items early like that can be nice to hold onto to speed up your research unlocks later

[zenith pecan]

Man, I'm glad underwater construction still works 🙂

[nocturne nebula]

if only we could dive!

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, have to climb down when building underwater.

[nocturne nebula]

ladder?

[zenith pecan]

#design-and-architecture message hehe.

When using the hoverpack underwater, you can go up, but not down, you have to use a ladder to go down.

[nocturne nebula]

nice

[zenith pecan]

Another example, causeway construction, including building the supports under the waves #design-and-architecture message

[nocturne nebula]

Shenanigans!

[zenith pecan]

Works though, causeways like that are gradually taking over the surface, carrying power, belts & pipes and connecting buildings.

[nocturne nebula]

nice

[zenith pecan]

I've just completed one that goes from the southeastern point of the spire coast at the oil extractor there, and it goes all the way into the canyon, to the wells there to deliver power and a scenic walkway to where I'm building a monster coking plant.

[nocturne nebula]

with blueprints I hope, lol

[zenith pecan]

Actually no, I rarely use blueprints because I simply make the design up on the fly.

[nocturne nebula]

relatable

[ornate saffron]

6 hours disappeared last night while playing. I gotta update my spreadsheets before continuing

[neon forge]

i think i'm slowly slipping into the "spend more time building decoration than actually making progress and machines" type beat LOL

[zenith pecan]

I did use some blueprints here though #design-and-architecture message , since I constructed 23 identical platforms, that replication was a complete pain.

[nocturne nebula]

its hard to pull out of it right! lol

[ornate saffron]

thats a good place to be

[nocturne nebula]

I created a factory for phase 2 yesterday then had plenty of time to kill for looks

[glacial drum]

We thinking a 2.5BWD factory would be good?

when slooped 5..

[neon forge]

this all started as not wanting to make a lawn base and now i'm at the stage where i'm adding a whole glass elevator tower and railings and support frames to a goddamn hypertube cannon XD

[nocturne nebula]

lawn?

[rugged stratus]

what is experimental version doing

[neon forge]

lawn base is a term used a bunch in modded minecraft for just slapping down all your machines on the floor and calling it a day pretty much

[ornate saffron]

UE% backend updates

[zenith pecan]

Hmm, I need to add a small annex to the coke plant, for ammunition, I need to crunch numbers before deploying refineries.

[neon forge]

satisfactory equivalent would prolly just setting down a huge plane of foundation and throwing everything on it in a giant heap of stuff

[ornate saffron]

spending the time now removes the duanting task that compiles over time

[ornate saffron]

bwd?

[glacial drum]

ballistic warp drives

[ornate saffron]

gotacha

[neon forge]

building also gives me something to do while my ficsit coupons generate lol

[ornate saffron]

did you leave it on for the last 12 hours ?

[zenith pecan]

I need max coke though due to feeding foundries to handle the colossal demand on caterium & copper that my dunes setup will likely eat all of 😱

[glacial drum]

I’m thinking I need to use the dark crystal trap recipe so I don’t use 1200 or 2400 sam

Damn trying to navigate this site is difficult

[zenith pecan]

I have a lot of sam handy 🤣

[glacial drum]

Should get the hang of it though

[neon forge]

not yet but will likely do so tonight

[glacial drum]

What diamonds recipe do yall use?

[zenith pecan]

Hmm, I lost my old ammo plants plan 🙁 , I need to recreate.

[glacial drum]

No way in hell I’m using over 5k coal for this

[neon forge]

oh yeah thanks for reminding me i need a nobelisk factory

[ornate saffron]

you could always rip out your old coal generator setups

[zenith pecan]

Some of my diamonds for time crystals are made using the overflow from my coke plant that feeds my bauxite, I will be using coal in the dunes though.

[neon forge]

so i can just boom every bit of rock and vegetation out of the way

[glacial drum]

Think I may need to accept the truth that this factory can’t be done all in the same spot if I want to refrain from losing my mind

[zenith pecan]

Just use a train for moving coal.

[neon forge]

oh jesus i just learned a gold finish exists, I NEED IT

[ornate saffron]

cup or cart or paint

[neon forge]

paint, when i reach the endgame i can build a giant golden temple to my own glory as the ultimate symbol of having made this planet well and truly my bitch LOL

[glacial drum]

I think I may split this bwd factory up

That or I need a better way to visualize it

[zenith pecan]

Eww, 60 refineries fml.

Welp, I need to work out how much I need to handle my ammunition needs as well for the blasting powder.

[ornate saffron]

GOODLUCK..... have you seen teh credits roll?

[glacial drum]

If anyone has a bwd factory recipe setup on any calculator site and wants to let me see it 👀👀👀

I wanna see if I’m doing this efficiently

[ornate saffron]

In theory i could load my first one and show you what not to do lol

[neon forge]

start of phase 4 is the furthest i went on my first run

[fickle locust]

You should 100% split them up. BWD are a lot

[glacial drum]

I think I may use a laptop to look at this factory.. it’s a lot on my phone

[tall lantern]

"efficient" is very subjective, particularly for stuff like this where alt choice is more about choosing which resources to use

[fickle locust]

The main source of complexity is the Thermal Propulsion Rocket, which is made up of Fused Modular Frames, Modular Engines, Cooling Systems, and Turbo Motors (which used to be the most complex part in the game by themselves)

Singularity Cells are complex only because you need to make Nuclear Pasta

[glacial drum]

I don’t mind cutting out my sinking of nuclear pasta to make room for sinking BWD so I think I may just.. use the few I’ve automated for this

Considering a BWD gives much more points compared to pasta

[fickle locust]

Superposition Oscillators are not actually that bad, and tbh are helpful being here since they help you make Dark Matter Crystals

Your challenge in that "bottom half" is handling the dark matter residue and turning that into enough dark matter crystals

[glacial drum]

Think I’m gonna go scouting and thinking while I collect hard drives for that achievement.

[tall lantern]

absolutely not a plan I'd recommend you follow, but this was my Phase 5 factory.
One of my things is trying to use full nodes where possible (though I did relax that here), which is why there's some extra side production
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=qVOhZuJurfVzuOnZZLkb

[west jackal]

is paint locked behind flower research

[mortal ginkgo]

its unlocked with the "paint" milestone

there is no flowers anymore

painting is in 1.0

[ornate saffron]

this is why you are impoure

[west jackal]

oh, i need to play more, been busy with gf for vday and school 😠

[mortal ginkgo]

ew, so you are a normal human being. Stay away from me! RRREEEEEEE-

[mortal ginkgo]

no u

[zenith pecan]

Oh man, why did I take down my jank setup for nuclear weapons, 🤦‍♂️

[ornate saffron]

you wanted to -1second from midnight

[zenith pecan]

I took far too much industry down in my goal of a full reconstruction, I ran out of nukes and I'm low on regular bombs, good thing I have more than a million snowballs from ficsmas but oh well, turns out my rebuild plan will use 2/3rds of the plastic coming out of the spire.

[stoic nebula]

where is it possible to run a asave cleanup in my world?

[zenith pecan]

I finally retired my starter ironworks that was woefully inadequate for large scale construction after finishing the basics plant in the spire though, that produces an order of magnitude more encased beams, rods, plates, reinforced plates and frames.

I started ammo planning again because I need some of the oil that will be mostly feeding my coke plant thats meant to supply tempered caterium & copper (unless node near the sea, I'll use pure there)

Ammunition will be produced in pretty much all varieties, though I'm aiming for very small numbers due to how infrequently I need to shoot or blast things, and depots will max out just by me playing.

[ornate saffron]

clean up?

[stoic nebula]

yea

[ornate saffron]

please define

[stoic nebula]

like to remove glitched and unsynced things

[zenith pecan]

I'm looking at some of this backwards, I need to start refining ingots.

[ornate saffron]

from the ingame world or steam?

[stoic nebula]

from steam. my usual coplayer is having issues and they told me to ask that question

[ornate saffron]

im not sure if you can steam cloud is wierd

[soft marsh]

Decided trying to make pretty train tracks was holding me up too much. Went back to the beam trick and figured I can sort it out lateer

[stoic nebula]

what?

[unkempt blade]

Is this a feature that exists? I've had very few issues with steam saves so I've never run into this if so

[surreal ingot]

why does merging two 300/m pipes into a mk2 pipe just not work

its so stupid

it works when i seperated them too

[unkempt blade]

what isn't working about it?

[surreal ingot]

i have two normal oil nodes and one would always be ~50% efficiency and somep pipes wouldnt flow

i seperated them and now it works finr

[stoic nebula]

it just started happening, and its pissing me off bc i dont wanna lose the multiplayer world

[surreal ingot]

il never understand pipes in this game

[stoic nebula]

I HATE PIPES

[unkempt blade]

If you have an older version of the save I'd see if it has the same issue. Otherwise it's just putting the error message/log into google and seeing if there's a known fix

[stoic nebula]

i tried googling it, and the older saves are doing the same

[dusk mirage]

Hey guys, if I overclock my coal generators, do I need also more water or more coal

[unkempt blade]

yes

[ornate saffron]

yes every things scales equally so at 200% you need double the inputs

[spiral summit]

can you automate carts to operate lifts by themselves

[white dawn]

Yes, a coal gen at 200% needs twice as much coal+water and provides twice as much power

Overclocking on generators basically just saves space

In general folks don't bother overclocking coal gens, though it can be quite useful once you get to fuel and higher

[ornate saffron]

no but they do use juimppads

[white dawn]

Though if you've got the spare shards, of course, feel free. :)

[spiral summit]

they should totally add this

it would finally make the enormous size it takes up make sense

[mortal ginkgo]

enourmous size? Brother its one foundation size...

[tough kelp]

If you want to make the most of your somersloops, then near your hub build a constructor and put one inside. Then use that to craft your power shards. Double the amount you get. Using the MAM to research is super overlooked early on

Another good example is cast screws. It’s an alternate recipe for screws that uses ingots directly instead of rods. Makes a huuuge difference

[lofty breach]

I just spent like an hour trying to understand why my 5° turn blueprint sometimes aligns and sometimes doesn't. I finally figured it out, but I don't know how to influence it : it depends on whether nudging is applied to the blueprint bounding box, or the designer's. Does anyone know what affects it ?

[acoustic bear]

whatever you do, don't put your powershards in a truck, drive them through an automated gate inside a blueprinter and then save the blueprint with the truck inside, then dismantle the truck and reload the blueprint for double shards

or triple shards....

[tough kelp]

Fking gamers. That’s clever lol

[mortal ginkgo]

just use ASG to give you items at that point 😛

[acoustic bear]

yeah.

[tough kelp]

Asg?

[winged herald]

ags you mean?

advanced game settings im assuming, unless asg is something else

[tough kelp]

Ah can’t do that. I’ve just finished phase 4 for the second time. Had to abandon my fist run due to the 10,000 mistakes that piled up lol

[reef basin]

you can always do AGS

[tough kelp]

Gotta tackle nuclear to increase my power output to continue. Got 60,000 but it doesn’t seem so plentiful anymore

[tough kelp]

Might be fun for a full scale nerd build after the fact

[zenith pecan]

I didn't use nuclear power to get what I have, but it did take a monster build.

[rugged stratus]

is there a site where I can see all the items value for the awesome sink?

[zenith pecan]

!wikisearch awesome_sink

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome_sink

[zenith pecan]

The table is shown here.

[tough kelp]

I’m using a rocket fuel generator factory with 144 units 36000 power atm plus my previous set ups

[rugged stratus]

ty

[rugged stratus]

try to get 1500 rocket fuel / min, it goes up to 90000 mw of power only using 405 crude oil / min of you have the right setup

[zenith pecan]

My rocket fuel system generates a little more #design-and-architecture message

[tough kelp]

60k even, but to speed up phase 4. 1 particle gen overclocked and slooped uses 20,000

[zenith pecan]

It is a bit big though #design-and-architecture message

[tough kelp]

I probably need to re-look at the set up with diff recipes then. Right now I’m right at the cap from the heavy oil res alternate but everything else is standard

The ionized fuel is next but I dunno if it’s worth it

[zenith pecan]

I will lose few thousand megawatts when I decomission the 32 coal generators but compared to what I'm generating, it's a drop in the ocean.

[rugged stratus]

im using diluited packaged fuel

[zenith pecan]

The coal will be going into particle accelerators.

[rugged stratus]

lile the kibiz power plant, but using rocket fuel

[tough kelp]

I dunno what that is. I just have 1 oil node running 144 gens

Figured I’d try to run 20 200% nuke plants moving forward. But I have no idea how much power unreasonably need to complete phase 5

[rugged stratus]

just hand feed machine to make phase 5 items atp

[tough kelp]

Really? Automate later?

[steel igloo]

you don't need nuclear to finish the game at all much less 20 reactors

[rugged stratus]

i was jk, you could automate when u want

[tough kelp]

I’m using 45000 currently at the end of phase 4 before tackling any nuclear

[rugged stratus]

im using 14k and Im phase 4

[green fiber]

2 new machines types in phase 5 use 250 MW on average each and 1000 MW average each

and then theres the accelerator, which still is used there

that thing uses anywhere from 1000 MW to 500 MW average

[tough kelp]

My 1 particle accelerator with a sloop in it uses 20,000

[green fiber]

average slooping moment

[rugged stratus]

I have no particle accelerator

[green fiber]

then you will soon have

[rugged stratus]

never

[tough kelp]

Then you’re gonna need more than 14,000 very soon

[green fiber]

then quit the game i guess

[rugged stratus]

first, I have to figure out how to plan the factories and all belting

[rugged stratus]

im a slow pioneer

[steel igloo]

if you're putting all your sloops into machines, esp big machines, then yeah you'll need a lot more power but would be easier to take the sloops out of the machines and make APGs then make more machines to make other stuff than it would be to spin up a nuke plant

[tough kelp]

Apg?

[green fiber]

sloop in machine = get more resource but use more power
sloops for Alien Power Augmenter = more power but less resources

[steel igloo]

it's a thing you research in the mam

oops I meant APAs I thought it was generator not augmenter

[zenith pecan]

Err, that's more broken that when I found this in early access, #satisfactory-experimental message

[tough kelp]

Ah yeah. 500mw I think. I’ve tried to plan ahead an set up all my base inputs greater than my usage so I can easily upgrade my miners and belt to feed later game. Beginning of phase 4 I was using like 8500. End of phase 4 I’m using 45000. But that’s with a slooped particle accelerator which inflates that by 10k if i was able to resource out more machines

[rugged stratus]

can I automate every item in the game?

[green fiber]

basically yes

the only items you cant automate forever are organic stuff found around the world

[tough kelp]

End of phase 4 I’ve got everything automated

[steel igloo]

if you just do uranium and store the waste at the edge of the map nuclear is pretty easy but if you go past uranium or don't want to deal with the waste piling up and eventually shutting your reactors down then it gets a lot more complicated

[acoustic bear]

why is my radiation level 100% but I'm not carrying anything or near anything

[green fiber]

bugged radiation meter, reload the save

[steel igloo]

also define "everything" because you can't automate things like inhalers or anything that's equipment workshop only or anything that requires biomass but everything else yeah

[green fiber]

if its still 100% after that you are definitely carrying something or near something

[acoustic bear]

I was working uranium stuff but emptied my pockets and ran across the map

reloading fixed it

[zenith pecan]

Anything radioactive will have a weird staticy look in your inventory.

[steel igloo]

or just respawn if you're not too far from the hub, can be faster than reloading

[acoustic bear]

yup. I went line by line like 3x through my inventory and trashed stuff I wasn't sure about

[tough kelp]

Starting phase 5. Did you guys try to add on to your existing set ups, or did you start a fresh location to progress into 5?

[acoustic bear]

I just started 5. I'm not sure how I'm going to tackle it either

[zenith pecan]

Sometimes when you destroy radioactives, especially after sorting your inventory, the game thinks you still have it on you, the reload kind of makes it sanity check and realise the hazard is gone.

[acoustic bear]

I'm starting a uranium setup I guess

[acoustic bear]

that's probably it. I sorted my inventory a few times

[rugged stratus]

nice

[tough kelp]

Same. I’m gonna boost up nuclear first, but I’m on the far west of the map and I’ve used most of the resources. So I think I should move. Frame out a new base and train in my base mats and essential treat it as a “new build”

[steel igloo]

nah even if you don't sort it can happen I think it's more if you have too much in your inventory for too long, happens to me when moving around stuff to balance or clean out

[zenith pecan]

Oh man, I've burned more than 1000 shards in the past week, time to scour the map for any remaining slugs.

[acoustic bear]

that's exactly how I am. I used most of the resources on the west coast so now I'm looking to the east side and I settled on the uranium to the north of the big canyon that runs east-west by the dune desert

[rugged stratus]

do u have iron ingots automated?

[acoustic bear]

I have a big mega factory located on the western side cliffs

[steel igloo]

I have 77 purple slugs chillin in the DD lol

[rugged stratus]

producing what?

[acoustic bear]

everything up to phase 4

[tough kelp]

Huh?

[acoustic bear]

computers, supercomputers etc

drones

[tough kelp]

I have the same thing. One central location building the bulk, and a few satellite locations surrounding the area feeding the need

But my power plant is way in the top right on a lake

[unkempt blade]

I make a carousel out of conveyors for my slugs around the hub because they look fancy there

[acoustic bear]

Almost everything on the western 1/3rd of the map is belted into factory on the northside of the cliffs.

[soft marsh]

I just spent the last half hour going through my bluprints and reorganizing/deleting. So much better now

[acoustic bear]

I need to do that. I've only sorted my stuff haphazardly

[rugged stratus]

well I said every item

[tough kelp]

I got the same, but just in the west side lol

[soft marsh]

I go in phases. Where I'm super organized with it and then when I start building theres a million drafts and suddenly its a mess

[tough kelp]

Yes. Everything I need for all
Of phase 4 and previous is automated

[soft marsh]

Im trying to limit my bp usage tho. I get too caught up in using them that I forget I can build without them

[steel igloo]

just build in the swamp, lots of pure nodes, every possible resource is nearby, oil isn't great but even then more isn't too far away

[acoustic bear]

I'm going to do an aluminum setup in the swamp soon too

[tough kelp]

But I do have to admit. I have creature aggression off. Ain’t got time for that shit.

[acoustic bear]

honestly the creatures do 0 for the game either way

passive is fine

[tough kelp]

Mine is hanging off the west side off the cliffs

The alternate scrap recipe is a game changer

[acoustic bear]

I have 2 setups right now, one on the westside and one west-central

[acoustic bear]

that and sloppy alumina

[tough kelp]

I wish there was an easy way to just spectate other people’s worlds to see what they did

[golden nexus]

ask them for the saves

[acoustic bear]

gosh uranium is making my head spin

[soft marsh]

Same. I dont play this for combat

[zenith pecan]

That'll be radiation poisoning, drop and run 🙂

[tough kelp]

Ya fk that noise

[acoustic bear]

how do I avoid uranium waste?

[zenith pecan]

Process it into plutonium rods and sink them is one way.

[acoustic bear]

ok

[steel igloo]

you can't avoid it you have to store it or convert it into plutonium

[tough kelp]

I built it out before and I just ran it backwards. Built the plant. Then the fuel, then the supply. From the waste I expanded it into plutonium and sunk it for like 180,000 points each

[steel igloo]

plutonium fuel can sink

[acoustic bear]

I have everything unlocked so I can do plutonium

[zenith pecan]

My old setup turned 1050 uranium waste into 5.25 plutonium rods that got sunk.

[tough kelp]

You can sink the plutonium

[steel igloo]

in T9 you can burn plutonium and clean it up to ficsconium and burn that too for a completely wasteless and sinkless setup

[acoustic bear]

I'm in tier 9 now

[tough kelp]

You’re at the end of t9. We starting it lol

[acoustic bear]

everything up until now has been done with fuel

[rugged stratus]

why not use the plutonium rods as a fuel?

[tough kelp]

It still creates waste to have to store

Unless you are able to expand on it to the next source, it’s a storage issue that doesn’t go away. Radiation problems

[zenith pecan]

At the time, ficsonium didn't exist, it was my early access experimental save that I ran torturous experiments on to break the game engine, hence finding fun stuff like this #satisfactory-experimental message , I started over after 1.0 , old save had about 3000h in it.

[rugged stratus]

or process it to ficsonium

[tough kelp]

Not at option just starting phase 5 tho

Eventually yes

[rugged stratus]

making ur life more complicated is fun

[nocturne nebula]

Run away and pretend it’s not a problem. lol

[steel igloo]

it's not that hard to unlock all the stuff in T9 just build a few machines to pump out what you need, underclock if necessary for power concerns, go out and explore and grab all the slops and spheres you can find while it builds away

[rugged stratus]

yea, I would do so, if only automating everything wasnt hard as hell

[tough kelp]

If you’re up for a visitor, I’d be interested in coming to snoop what you built out. Sounds like we’re more or less at the same stage. Prolly did it very different ways.

[zenith pecan]

Damn, all this messing with trains in the past and I never noticed the stations have a ladder to their walkways built in.

[acoustic bear]

you can add me on steam at mazdaspeeding

[tough kelp]

I haven’t done a very good job with trains

I have 1 lol

[acoustic bear]

just to be warned, I cheated by duping a bunch of sloops for extra power augmenters lol

[tough kelp]

Well I have no power augmentors lol. Haven’t even made one

[zenith pecan]

Your save, your rules, hell I have extra sloops due to a post 1.0 patch respawning everything on the map.

[rugged stratus]

you could trash them in the toilet if you change ur mind

[acoustic bear]

just letting you know so when you see a bunch of augmenters in random spots hahaha

[zenith pecan]

I fed a lot of the extras to a doggo along with a nuclear device.

[rugged stratus]

😭

[acoustic bear]

I made like 150k mw of fuel power and then stacked enough augmenters for about 1.1 million mw

[rugged stratus]

can I visit too?

[zenith pecan]

Let me destroy the dupes by the stack instead of one at a time in the toilet.

[tough kelp]

That’s ok. I feel like my build out is very basic and just gets the job done. But I’m happy with it so far. Lots of time. A little messy sometimes with the feeds

[acoustic bear]

i don't mind lol

[acoustic bear]

I've also got tons of shit I started and then abandoned etc

[rugged stratus]

I did with my 100+ duped hard drives

[zenith pecan]

Hard drives definitely don't need duping, there are more on the map than there are alternates.

[rugged stratus]

I was lazy

[tough kelp]

I’ll add you and hit you up this week and check out your shit lol

[acoustic bear]

right now I'm on the steam version but I can switch to epic if needed.

[rugged stratus]

added u on steam

[acoustic bear]

accepted it

[zenith pecan]

I might make the train shuttle service I have planned for the spire, a scheduled thing.

[cunning glade]

I pray when my friend gets on the game allows him too join

[zenith pecan]

I just don't know how long it'll linger at each station with no cars.

[sterile blade]

Why shouldn't it?

[cunning glade]

Because yesterday it wouldn't let him

He just loaded forever with a black screen

[sterile blade]

Iirc, you should be able to set that in the autopilot settings

[acoustic bear]

I'm way on the other side working on uranium lol

[cunning glade]

He could hear the game I could join him just fine

So I'm just praying it's fixed itself

[acoustic bear]

should be stuff in the dd too, jetpacks etc

[cunning glade]

Cuz we haven't played for about a month

[zenith pecan]

I'm setting up a kind of train set in the dunes to experiment.

[cunning glade]

Comeback and all of a sudden he can't load in

[sterile blade]

If issues persist, #1038092680493801533 might be able to help ^^

[cunning glade]

Valid well I just have too wait 2 hours

Till he's on cuz I didn't get anyone too join and I also idk if it matters

[lofty breach]

So, does anyone know what sets grid reference for nudging blueprints (between the blueprint bounding box or the designer's)?

[cunning glade]

I had a friend join and it worked but the friend I was playing with it's not letting him

Actually wonder if I kill him so it forces him too respawn if that helps I may remember this being an issue before tbh

Ig another thing too try

[tough kelp]

Sent you a request. Gotta jump but I’ll hit you up. Gl with nuclear ☢️

[acoustic bear]

accjepted it

shady and I are running around now

[zenith pecan]

I'm not seeing a setting to pick out wait time, the train seems to linger for a couple of seconds then takes off #screenshots message

[spice osprey]

What's the best way to get rid of a bunch of random copper and iron ore/bars that I have in my inventory? Its too much to use for crafting by hand, and my systems are fully efficient right now, so I don't know how/where to put them into the factory. Should I just build some standalone smelters contractors that are fed from supply containers until they run out?

[zenith pecan]

Just trash them, you'll end up with many.

[spice osprey]

That's fair. Feels bad trashing usable material, but I'm definitely wasting my time pinching pennies

[cunning glade]

Okay so random people can join my game cool

So yeah I think his player is bugged time too get the bombs

[steel igloo]

if it's too many to drag you the trash can one at a time just make ac ontainer, belt the container into a sink and ctrl-click each item out of your inventory to the container and let the sink deal with it for you

[acoustic bear]

coffee stain games seem to have the best communities

DRG and Satisfactory both have the friendliest communities

I hate toxic BS like league

[spice osprey]

Good to know for the future, but rn I'm just dealing with like 5-10 stacks of each. Totally doable by hand for now.

[zenith pecan]

You can drag all of one type of item to the trash.

[spice osprey]

oh nice. Whats the button for that?

[acoustic bear]

control

[zenith pecan]

Press and hold ctrl and drag the item, all of them will move.

Oh man, the test train is chugging back and forth along its 56 metre test track 🤣

[frosty mirage]

Im sad to report the factory did NOT grow today 🙁 fkin real life job man, why cant i be paid exclusively by FICSIT?

[acoustic bear]

I wonder how long it would take an item to make a lap of the map on a conveyor belt

[acoustic bear]

get fired and draw unemployment like me

[zenith pecan]

I know what you mean hah, I spend more time dealing with IT tickets from some less than savvy colleagues, like why does my laptops camera not work (shutter closed) than I do with gaming 🤣

[frosty mirage]

Thats not rly an option in my country. I mean, it is, but cant live off of it 🙁

[frosty mirage]

I work as a data processor in market research and i have a project for disneyland and tomorrow will be my 3rd fkn day workin on this project, while most projects usually take like 3-4 hours (medium complexity one), this will take me fkn 20 hours ffs

Cant they understand I NEED MY 125/m iron construction materials production to be done? 😭😭😭

[spice osprey]

I work IT as well. I had someone call in today because they couldn't connect their new printer to their computer. It was running Windows 7, and the printer only had drivers for windows 10 or later

[sterile blade]

"Edit the time-table"?

[zenith pecan]

Urgh don't remind me of windows, we still have windows 10 machines, and intune autopilot is a complete pain.

[zenith pecan]

Found it eventually, its proper buried.

Bah, I put wait 10 seconds and the train is gone in 2.

[gloomy tusk]

no?

[surreal abyss]

has anyone expirience in setting up g-portal Satis servers?

[zenith pecan]

Urgh erk, I started writing about portals when It sunk in that you was on about rented server space 🤦‍♂️

[surreal abyss]

im sorry, what?

[zenith pecan]

Don't be sorry, I just misread your question.

[reef basin]

then this must be wrong, blender can't make that much

[gloomy tusk]

i swear it can

nitro rocket fuel max slooped and overclocked?

[reef basin]

750/min

[soft marsh]

Waiting for manifold lines to charge. insert escobar standing gif

Learning that manifolds dont work very well for longer lines. Will likely split my lines further and have it enter on both sides

[gloomy tusk]

yes they do bud

you gotta choose the right ones not just use over the top fast ones

[soft marsh]

Not really. I've had to split lines a few times otherwise some machines get clogged up and others receive resources so little they might as well not be there

[gloomy tusk]

do you put the same speed for every belt?

[soft marsh]

Yeah 600 resources in, so I use the 780 belt to make sure all resources are used

[gloomy tusk]

say a smelter manifold you need to put it with fastest speed running through it but mk 1 to put it into the smelter that way it wont ever back up

[soft marsh]

How does that work? Backing up makes sure the resource goes to the next smelter and so on and so forth. If it doesnt back up it never gets to the next smelter?

[sterile blade]

Maybe it's set on "wait X seconds or until one load/unload is completed"?

If there's just a locomotive, the load/unload counts as immediately done, I think...

[silk rose]

spend 5 minutes crafting
spend 10 hrs automating

[sterile blade]

Ironically (as it's a bit counter-intuitive), that actually increases the time before all machines are full (ie: all running at 100%)

[silk rose]

spend 100 hrs automating

[gloomy tusk]

so for example a 6 smelters each smelter needs 60 and you have 360 iron ore going throuhgh it on at least mk 4 belts but mk 1s to put it into the smelters

you need to wait a lot less time before it works

it works of like 3 seconds i believe

[soft marsh]

Ohhhh I think I see what you're saying. The belt fills before the machine does since the belt slows down how fast it enters the machine

[sterile blade]

If the belt matches exactly what the machine needs, the manifold becomes effectively a balancer (zero warm-up time)
But for all other cases, fast belts lead to less total warm-up time

[gloomy tusk]

and then it just fills up every machine instantly

[soft marsh]

lemme try that and see if that helps.

[zenith pecan]

Mildy irritating, I'll revisit it when I finish crunching numbers for my ammunition plant and got the coke plant up, so much copper and caterium are being called upon.

[gloomy tusk]

no? if you used a mk 4 belt for example you would nbeed to wait until practically every machine was filled up

it takes like 2min for super long lines

[zenith pecan]

I'm also needing to build a new copper basics facility out of the way so I can get rid of the skeleton factory near the canyon to reuse the resources there for mass production.

[silk rose]

what job should i have if i like satisfactory?

[sterile blade]

If you used MK1s but the machines needed anything except 60/min (eg:even just 59/min), the total warm-up time would be more than if you used MK2s, which would be more than if you used MK3s and so on...

[zenith pecan]

Oh, off the coast near my concrete factory has copper & caterium, time to build two more slender towers!

[spice osprey]

Is there a way to measure the parts per minute of a conveyer?

[silk rose]

cuz then buffers will need to be filled?

[sterile blade]

The awesome shop has a tool for that

[sterile blade]

Spot on

[stone quiver]

There's no real reason to do the small mk1 belt thing, it's like worrying about throughput on the first few minutes of start up ... when you shouldn't be stopped once automated anyway

[stoic nebula]

how do i load my game in experimental?

[silk rose]

check on steam properties

[zenith pecan]

I use so many mk1 belts its unreal, they just look cool moving low throughput items.

[rugged burrow]

Hey folks, does anyone have some nice sources of inspiration for builds? Aside from the channel here

[zenith pecan]

Here's an example of matching belt speeds roughly to the machines that work around them #design-and-architecture message

[silk rose]

least popular is mk2 i think cuz i dont usually have much of them

[stoic nebula]

ty!

[sterile blade]

Looking through #screenshots and #design-and-architecture can be a nice start. Adding keywords can help sort through the unreal amount of content there is ^^

[silk rose]

like 50 per min is enough for whole game

[silk rose]

i mean without speedrunning 100 ballistic warp drives per min

[sterile blade]

What do you mean?

Oh, like 50/min for personal use?

[silk rose]

steel beams for mk3 are needed in large quantities in later game so i have like 200 per min to start with. reinforced plates are not needed that much so i do like 50 if them.
conveyors cost same ammount of each so i never use mk2

[zenith pecan]

I have a few mk2 belts around for some locations.

[stone quiver]

I slap MK6 on it all, gotta keep the lights on at night

[silk rose]

if its manifold scenario with exact rate i often forget to use lower tier

[rugged burrow]

I have to say, I upgraded my pc and went from minimum/medium graphics to maximum and it does feel a new game... everything is so pretty

[stoic nebula]

i have 5s as my most, and i do the same

[silk rose]

what the gpu and screen

[sterile blade]

If you wish to really torture your machine, you can increase the graphics further using some secret commands in-game ^^

While I can't afford to keep such things running (or even Global Illumination 😅) they do make for great screenshots and recordings if you're into that

[zenith pecan]

Global illumination has been the reason I can light my factories without it looking ugly as sin.

[silk rose]

'i paid for the whole gpu'

[silk rose]

is there some guide on that

[stone quiver]

People are weird about computer parts

[rugged burrow]

rtx 5080
amd 9800 x3D
32gb DDR5
4k QD-OLED

[silk rose]

daaaim

[stone quiver]

They want their cpu and gpu to work less than max for some reason . If it's not on fire, why you want it to compute slower

[reef basin]

don't need to wait, just do something else while it's filling up

[silk rose]

bros pc is more than avg house

[stoic nebula]

is there a save editor to remove actors?

[acoustic bear]

9800X3D crew

such a good chip

[rugged burrow]

funnily enough, I bought my new pc just before all the prices skyrocketed lmao

[silk rose]

its on fire in case of amd (my case)

[rugged burrow]

even still, it was around 4000 euros...

[zenith pecan]

Sounds like something the movie industry needs 🤣

[ornate saffron]

less power usage,less wear, less heat in your room

[silk rose]

bro that monitor alone is as much as medium-high pc

[stoic nebula]

thats not what i meant 😭

[acoustic bear]

I wanna upgrade my monitor. I just haven't found the right 32" 4k oled yet

[silk rose]

right means under $1k ig

[sterile blade]

Not really, but it's as simple as following the instructions in a text file and paste a file inside a folder (ie: rather than changing parameters one by one in-game, there's lists of recommended settings based on how "heavy" they are to run that one can copy-paste in the game's settings folder)

I can share the link for it if you want~

[acoustic bear]

ehh, even at over $1000 the 32" panels are kinda weak

most stuff is 27" or ultrawide

[silk rose]

yes share pls

[acoustic bear]

27" is too small IMO and I'm not an ultrawide fan personally

[silk rose]

some people live on 24 1080

[acoustic bear]

yep

[sterile blade]

Found it: https://github.com/Lightning999933/Satisfactory-Graphical-tweaks/releases/tag/v0.5.6.3

[acoustic bear]

people that live in dorms with tiny desks

[silk rose]

they say its okay

[acoustic bear]

I have a whole kitchen table as a desk lol

[gloomy tusk]

i will test this

[acoustic bear]

so I can set my monitor far back from where I sit

[sterile blade]

For science!

[silk rose]

i always suggest to upgrade monitor but only one person actually followed that. they bought 2k 144hz

[ornate saffron]

ya im over a meter away from my monitor. helps that my desk is huge

[acoustic bear]

2k 144hz is the sweet spot right now

[acoustic bear]

yep. I've toyed with getting a 48" or 55" tv as a monitor but I think that's a bit too much

[torn lynx]

This English class s is.boring, I wanna go home to explore and exploit

[silk rose]

with sweet 3060

[gloomy tusk]

can someone help me out?

[reef basin]

would be great if you shared your issue first

[gloomy tusk]

i will send my pc list in #off-topic-general and can ylu guys tell me if its good or if everything is compatible

[zenith pecan]

One thing travellin my causeways brings out, is just how beautiful the landscape in this game really is.

[gloomy tusk]

give it time

[reef basin]

#off-topic-tech probably better place to do it

[gloomy tusk]

ok

[spark ruin]

do note thats only for the experimental branch

for stable you'd want https://github.com/Lightning999933/Satisfactory-Graphical-tweaks/releases/tag/v0.5.6.1

[spark ruin]

if you think about it
1920 (x1080p) is closer to 2K than 2560 (x1440) is 😜

[night summit]

can someone help me with my turbofuel gen setup? I'm producing enough for my generators, but my fluid pipes are getting stuck ;/

[plush raft]

quick question there are these crude oil veins where i'm at that i can't use a oil extractor with how do i use them

[ornate saffron]

i got a 27" 1440p with high REfresh and a 32"4k art monitor 60hz. its a good combo

[sterile blade]

@silk rose!
(Thanks for pointing that out)

[silk rose]

good

[acoustic bear]

I think the 32" + 27" combo is about perfect. I've got a 32" 1440p 240hz and a 27" 1440p 75hz

gaming on the main monitor is best while keeping discord/youtube on the side monitor

[zenith pecan]

Later game tech, you need a well pressuriser & the satellite extractors for those.

[nocturne nebula]

@zenith pecan what paint finish are you using in your factories mate?

Carbon Steel?

[zenith pecan]

Unpainted on ficsit walls.

[nocturne nebula]

cool, thanks

I like the shiny, lol

[zenith pecan]

I just like that it doesn't look flat like my old concrete architecture that I moved away from.

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 post with images

[soft marsh]

thats using your noggin

[spark ruin]

i sure should run some benchmarks though finally
so people know what they'd be getting into performance wise
as well its still not fixed for the experimental branch, IDK what it is but structure shadows still only load in 5 meters from the camera with the shadow presets

[night summit]

I did

[distant bay]

Can trains kill you (like they can in factorio)

[nocturne nebula]

yep

[distant bay]

I’m kinda scared setting up trains because I don’t want to get run over by a train

[sterile blade]

It would probably be welcome, but tbh I was quite impressed with what you put together already even if some links weren't working...
The comparison/example shots were especially useful to understand how different settings affected the look of things and thus which ones one may preferred to push up or leave as they are

[nocturne nebula]

reminds me of factorio!

[distant bay]

I play factorio, and there’s an achievement for getting killed by a train

[tidal dock]

I don't die to biters anymore but those damn trains.....

[distant bay]

Those trains come in like a fnaf jumpscare and insta kill you

[strong fiber]

Y

[distant bay]

(Unless you have heavy shielding

[sterile blade]

The biggest threat is... your own work

[distant bay]

Factorio trains at high speed deal a TON of damage colliding with entities, including players

[tidal dock]

That is an accurately insulting statement 😛

[strong fiber]

ive never played factorio before

[distant bay]

play it since your here

[strong fiber]

Trains in satisfactory just boop you

[tidal dock]

oh that's good to know, I might not die to them

[distant bay]

Do they deal damage?

[strong fiber]

No

[sterile blade]

When they don't just phase through you...

[strong fiber]

I tried to die by a train before ive never been successful

[zenith pecan]

Imagine the complaints if trains and trucks could kill you, like stop standing on the tracks and maybe you won't get splatted.

[distant bay]

This

[distant bay]

Isn’t there an achievement in satisfactory for getting hit by a vehicle

[tidal dock]

I'm actually surprised they can't kill you, the amount of things that can actually kill and those can't

[zenith pecan]

Plus in satisfactory, you can build rail and road bridges to not get slapped by random vehicles.

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, get whacked by a truck.

[sterile blade]

No.
But I think there's achievements for unlocking vehicles 😉

[sterile blade]

Wait, really?!

[quasi warren]

Yeah

[spice osprey]

If I disassemble my space elevator, will I lose my progress on the current phase?

[zenith pecan]

#screenshots message here it is.

[sterile blade]

Noice

[distant bay]

Nope

[shut trout]

@somber cedar

[somber cedar]

@shut trout

hm

[acoustic bear]

<@&387163995947270144>

[shut trout]

Overreacting much

[acoustic bear]

keep it out of the chat

[somber cedar]

youll be okay

[shut trout]

It's one slip man relax

On fonem

[strong fiber]

wsg everyone

[ornate saffron]

Wsg?

What satisfactory gene?

Im autistic

[fading crow]

Well hello

[neon forge]

dear god i'm trying to cram all the phase 2 parts into one place and something tells me this was a poor decision

[eager palm]

Like, the production of the parts?

[neon forge]

yes

i have smart plating done, i'm trying to make automated wiring

and then i'm gonna have to figure out how the jesus do i get versatile framework

gonna need some long ahh belts for the coal and whatever iron node i can scrounge up for this

[reef basin]

or build near nodes

[covert quarry]

does a train need 2 be aligned precisely before you can dock?

[neon forge]

tbf i did build this next to 2 iron nodes, i just need a 3rd one for versatile framework LOL

[fickle locust]

Yes though if you have it automatically driving it'll align correctly to the stations

[soft marsh]

Had to deviate to build a modular frame factory. Ran out of them while I was building my computer factory. Wonder if I disconnected the original modular frames I made

[versed mesa]

Hi all good day

[junior arch]

When yalls game autosaves, does it like freeze when it gets to 1 sec?
Or is that maybe because I dont have buildings I just have all the factory machines in the open?

[ornate saffron]

@simple narwhal good stuff dude. Now you can play for real

[simple narwhal]

stop

[covert quarry]

does overflow also cause problems for fluid factories?

[simple narwhal]

i cant go back i cant go back

[ornate saffron]

?

I mean you are not restricted by achievements and let loose

[zenith pecan]

Huh?

[ornate saffron]

Referring to his post in #screenshots

[simple narwhal]

i need to get a job now bro

[ornate saffron]

Thats fair

[zenith pecan]

Could be worse, look at my 60 oscillator plant in the rocky desert.

[ornate saffron]

He beat the game and got all the achievements. That is what I am referring to

[zenith pecan]

I've done that, I'm just building because I want to.

[tame pulsar]

trying to make a conveyor elevator but how would i "work out" the top and the bottom? where the conveyors enter into the system? #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

100% thats when the game starts ^-^

[brittle seal]

i have heard some guys talking about some bug/s that can destroy a whole electric grid, does someone know what exactly the bug was?

was something with power switches iirc

[tall lantern]

news to me

the only thing that comes to mind to do with power switches (or more generally I believe, separate grids) is the hoverpack stun bug, but that doesn't "destroy" a grid, it just knocks it out for afew seconds

[dense violet]

was this on reddit?

[brittle seal]

oh yea i think it was this, do you know when this happens?

[brittle seal]

discord, this chat

[dense violet]

ok the hover pack minimum stutter thing. Whenever you really use hover packs and have switches on your grid

unless you're doing extremely weird things it won't affect your system

or if you're trying to direct feed waste fluids into fresh fluids with bad methods, might make things wonky

[brittle seal]

alright

thanks guys 🙏

[dense violet]

no stress, loooong standing bug with teh game, won't impact like 99.99999% of people though

[merry mountain]

Can you use somersloops on powershards?

[tidal dock]

You can make powershards in a slooped up constructor

[fickle locust]

As far as I know it's just a matter of how big the save file is. The more stuff I build the more the autosave causes a little blip, regardless of if those things are covered or even rendered (I get the same thing even when I'm in the empty part of my map)

[cunning glade]

Fuck

So what do I do if my friend just can't join my world

[junior arch]

Well that sucks... but good to know

[cunning glade]

Am I just fucked gg start over

We made a new world that one works

Other people can join my current world

But just not my friend who was playing on the world

We legit didn't touch the game for like a month

Come back and it's just broken

I don't get it

God forbid I play factory games with my friends ig

My friend doesn't have a head

[tame pulsar]

how doi make a conveyor elevator? #screenshots message

i assumed "auto connect" would connect them but it doesnt seem to

[ornate saffron]

Only works for pipes and belts. Not lifts

[tame pulsar]

shoooot

how else would i implement this then?

[ornate saffron]

Manually

[tame pulsar]

So i cant have blueprints?

[dense violet]

well in the example you posted they would still need to connect up the bottoms and tops

[tame pulsar]

to ease any part of it?

[dense violet]

you could make a series of blueprints like in your example and only have to connect the bits in between the long lengths?

[tame pulsar]

hm

[cunning glade]

It's finally fucking working

[dense violet]

honestly though, how often are you making giant ass lift sections that you'd want a whole ass BP for it?

[cunning glade]

My friend was able too join for the first fucking time finally

[dense violet]

people really just fiddle with bps too much for minor sections of building

[tame pulsar]

uhh im not sure yet, doin my first 'elevator' for these miners i found

[tame pulsar]

i was hoping icould have some sort of vertical ascensionof belts whereas ive alreayd got a 'highway' for the horizontal

[dense violet]

in my 4000hrs of gameplay I've never done massive sky factories. Mostly because they suck.

for multiple reasons

[tame pulsar]

i can see why

unfortunate

[dense violet]

if you don't want to deal with 3d in a 3d game just get a mod that flattens the map.

[tidal dock]

I just wish we could remove or terraform certain things. I mean I would think it's cool to build a factory inside a mountain

[dense violet]

never gonna happen, that needs to be baked into a game from teh start, and even then it's a pain

[dense violet]

there are a couple really big caves on the west coast though?

[tidal dock]

I will have to check those out some day, I mostly just want to remove the giant ass rocks in the open fields

[zenith pecan]

Even the odd skyway has to be anchored to the ground or I really don't want it on the map.

[dense violet]

very easy to build around and plan for

[tidal dock]

my brain is a potato, i struggle to design things that aren't just a box

[dense violet]

I just really don't like sky infrastructure. Just looks silly

[clear aspen]

does anyone have any good anime reccemendations? ive already seen call of the night, bna, edgerunners, frieren, jjk, and csm

[dense violet]

Highly recommend looking up totalxclipse on youtube 🙂

[dense violet]

delicious in dungeon and dandandan are new and good

[clear aspen]

hmm dandadan into was made by the same ppl for cotn

i want something simmilar to cotn

[tidal dock]

Tensei Slime is amazing

[dense violet]

slime is fiiiiine. OP protag shows are good for brain mulch when you don't want anything too deep or detailed

[tidal dock]

It's a wholesome story, bro just wants to live his best life in peace. Not his fault he has to be super strong to accomplish that goal.

[dense violet]

oh and its fine. Just not much great character interaction or developement
unlike frieren, dandandan, delicious

[unkempt blade]

these shows are about factory carts right?

[tidal dock]

always

[unkempt blade]

that's good, carts are pretty ok

[cunning glade]

I'm so excited too beat phase 4 for the first time

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I always believed in you

[cunning glade]

Ty

Once I get the last part it'll take what 100 seconds right

I think unless I'm stupid

[unkempt blade]

time is an illusion there are only factory carts

[cunning glade]

I mean for pasta

I'll be making 60 a min

[stone quiver]

?!?

[still fox]

Nuclear pasta

[fickle locust]

That's so much copper

[still fox]

Delicious

[stone quiver]

Bro set up a 60 pasta/min?

[cunning glade]

Like 25k a min

[ornate saffron]

Fun fact pasta is the only elevator part that is used for something other then the project

[cunning glade]

Actually think it's only 15k

[still fox]

Where u getting that

[cunning glade]

Truth

Thank god I made extras

[fickle locust]

I think it's even more than that. I need 24,000 ingots for 20 Pasta

[tidal dock]

so wait, I can stop making smart plates now?

[ornate saffron]

You need a total of 4300 smart plates across all 5 phases

[tidal dock]

oh i see

[cunning glade]

15052 copper a min

[unkempt blade]

sink them for more coupons!

[cunning glade]

That's how much raw ore

[tidal dock]

I have barely used the sink at all cause I have no idea what I'm going to need

[cunning glade]

Ingot wise it's 37k a min

[ornate saffron]

Many phase parts required a previous part to make then. For example you need smart plates to make modular engines

[stone quiver]

It's 36000 ingots/min I believe. Only way to get that much copper ingots is one of the alt recipes. Probably 1000 refineries just for copper powder

[unkempt blade]

unlock everything then start buying statues so we all know how great you are!

[fickle locust]

Yup yup because you're pure ingot-ing so 2.5x

[cunning glade]

Only 120 constructors

Pure ingots are so hot and sexy

[fickle locust]

I calculated the ingot cost because I'm using whatever recipe is most convenient in the local area--I didn't want to pull ore out of the desert nor did I want to pipe water in

[cunning glade]

Still trying too figure out how I wanna do the copper

[fickle locust]

So a lot of my build is copper alloy

2x vs 2.5x isn't all that significant when it's so much easier to make

[cunning glade]

I'm not sure if I wanna train all of the copper too a factory that makes copper power and then too the pasta factory or if all at the same place

[stone quiver]

There's only 36900 ore/min on the entire map... and you did it 1:1 in the smelter?

[cunning glade]

Wym 2.5 is easier than 2x

[unkempt blade]

this was one of the things I actually like using drones for because I could just go to another side of the map, compress it down to powder, then ship the powder somewhere central

[fickle locust]

For 2.5x you need to make giant refineries and do the water logistics
Whereas for 2x you're just alloying with iron, and there's always iron next to the copper

[cunning glade]

But it's still 6000 powder a min can drones handle that

[fickle locust]

It's much faster to build and less annoying

[cunning glade]

Ig it does stack too 500

I def want the copper smelted in one place

[unkempt blade]

node clusters aren't normally so high that a couple drone ports couldn't handle it

[cunning glade]

Well it's gonna be all one building turning copper into powder

[stone quiver]

Have you done all the math on 60 pasta/min? I feel you're draining most of the map for this lol

[cunning glade]

I'm just gonna train all of the copper around the map

[cunning glade]

It's only 15k copper yes I'm chilling

Only 300 oil

[unkempt blade]

just need to figure out if you need multiple destination ports I guess 🤷‍♂️

[cunning glade]

3k bauxite

[ornate saffron]

Multiple destination carts

[cunning glade]

2k iron

Does take 13k water tho

And then some quartz not too bad just pricey copper wise

Now I'm not looking forward too making diamonds

Cuz I need 30k coal

And with that amount of coal I worry 2 train tracks won't be enough

[unkempt blade]

Carts could definitely handle that much powder. 500 stack size is easy #screenshots message

[cunning glade]

I think I might just make 10k aluminum a min and call it good

[stone quiver]

I'm not sure what math 15k copper gets 60 pasta though... you said smelters 1:1 that's 15000 ingot, which is 2500 powder/min which is 25 pasta/min

[cunning glade]

No I'm doing pure copper

I have 39k real ingots

[glad hawk]

number

[unkempt blade]

more pow[d]er!

[cunning glade]

Only takes 15k ore

[cunning glade]

I didn't do any math tools did

We believe in tools and do what it says

My friend can fucking play now this is so epic

Noted don't take a break and play factorio

The game literally punishes you

[tidal dock]

what's this break? play both at the same time

[cunning glade]

And says u can't play with ur friend now

Yeah factorio is more addicting

Idk what it is it's short but addicting

Like crack yeah I get it now

Like this game is a addicting but like holy

[glad hawk]

cocaine

[tidal dock]

chase the science rainbow, taste the science rainbow

[cunning glade]

Doing a rampant deathworld tho that we put on hold cuz of some lag

My friend gets 5 ups I get 60ups I'm hosting

[glad hawk]

ups

[cunning glade]

Im unsure why so but unplayable for him

It feels so good too be back tho

The first hour was me not remembering keybinds tho

what yall think about logistic floors

[tall lantern]

useful

"give yourself more space" is always a good idea, and that includes loads of space for routing stuff around

and for people like me who dislike stalled-looking belts, they give you somewhere to hide them

[covert quarry]

are trains recommended to transport fluids over long distance?

[dense violet]

they are a perfectly valid option

though it's often simpler to process fluids on location

[covert quarry]

also true

[fickle locust]

Fluid transport will also get overhauled in 1.2

[dense violet]

I recommend copying one of these buffer options exactly if you do use fluid trains though #design-and-architecture message

#design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

more than just trucks?

[covert quarry]

thanks

[fickle locust]

I'm just referring to trucks but who knows what's in the update

In any case with a new option for transport of fluids coming up, it might make sense to hold off on doing a fluid transfer project for the next month

[dense violet]

most people don't use trucks much anyway. I don't think there's any reason to hold off

and fluid trains work perfectly well

[fickle locust]

I'd be remiss if I didn't point it out

[dense violet]

and even with fluid trucks ... you could still move liquids with trucks. Just package them first

almost zero effort

[stone quiver]

Isn't 6000 powder/min only 30 pasta/min?

[dense violet]

probalby duping rather than actually making 60pm

[stone quiver]

Not enough sloops ?

[dense violet]

people can mod them in?

or use an exploit to duplicate doopers

[cunning glade]

Slooping yes

[cunning glade]

With oc there should be?

Plan was just 30 but then I was like why not sloop for a full mk1 belt

[stone quiver]

Oh fuhhh

Wait you're gonna mk1 everything?

[cunning glade]

What

[stone quiver]

[cunning glade]

I mean for the output it gives me a full mk1 belt

Which is why I'm slooping so I can have a full belt

Cuz it looks better

Fuck doing mk1 for everything

I forgot about water frick

[ornate saffron]

@neon forge looks solid

[slate mountain]

1 million sloops

[cunning glade]

When making an aluminum factory do y'all turn it all into casings and sheetings or leave some ingots too

[ornate saffron]

You can also just add stacks to your inventory

[dense violet]

the most boring mechanic

[plush raft]

so i'm trying to get a specific amount from of plastic from my plastic area like i need 58.33% of it is there anyway i could get a specific % of items from my factory

[cunning glade]

Just manifold

[dense violet]

make 2 groups of machines making plastic. One of hte groups making the 58%

[cunning glade]

If ur numbers are right it will back up and not use what's extra or that

[plush raft]

can't not usable in my situation

[nocturne nebula]

I wonder what a speedrun of this game looks like?

[dense violet]

what situation is that?

[cunning glade]

Fair I haven't found a situation where one doesn't work

[ornate saffron]

I can imagine that he needs to transport 58% via train

[plush raft]

i have planned all of the rest of my factory around these specific %'s by accident so i can't just make a manifold

[cunning glade]

Even still it will eventually back up

[dense violet]

Unless youre sinking the items yo ucan manifold

and if yo uare sinking the items you can overflow with a smart splitter

[cunning glade]

Will take way longer cuz way bigger buffer

[dense violet]

I don't think I've actually ever seen someone's set up where they couldn't set up a manifold in the many years on here

[plush raft]

i mean maybe?

[dense violet]

it'll work and self balance, thats the beaty of manifolds

[cunning glade]

Gotta say I miss bots

I actually miss just making a factory in 5 mins

[dense violet]

playing hte wrong game if it's not about designing and crafting a factory

[cunning glade]

It's just I'm starting a multi day project and I forget that

Def no way I get this done tonight unless I get some good bps ig

Thx autocorrect

I def should've oced the refineries

I kinda wish mk6 belts were sooner

I could either slowly make the pasta in a few machines too get too next phase and then do pasta factory but that kinda defeats the purpose of it

But also doing 38k copper ingots with 780 belts isn't gonna be that nice

I'll have almost 50 full belts

[versed cosmos]

youll still have a bunch of belts with mk6 belts lol

[cunning glade]

32

Quite a bit more manageable

Still just feels like they unlock kinda late

Fuck coal is gonna be a bitch too with 780 belts

And I need diamonds for belts wait maybe it'll be just time crystals

[versed cosmos]

what do you need the coal for?

[cunning glade]

Diamonds

[versed cosmos]

theres a ton of alt recipes for diamonds

[merry mountain]

what the hell? there's a floating cassette tape

[cunning glade]

Me wants too use some oil and make a lot of diamond

[cunning glade]

True I think only one is viable for me tho

[cunning glade]

Or well tools does turbo diamonds

Okay yeah

That's the only option

If I don't use that I need 12600 oil and 9600 coal

Which less coal but way more oil

[versed cosmos]

isnt that all of the oil on the map

[cunning glade]

Most of it prolly

Think it's like 14k grabbing my door dash then I can check

[whole robin]

Use blueprints and it can probably be done a lot quicker

[cunning glade]

Yes it is

And I'm already using prolly close too 10k oil

Wait how can I check I think there's a mod for that

[unborn moss]

Satisfactorytools lists it at 12600. But you could 250% that if you wanted to shard em all

[versed cosmos]

uh no

tools gives the number for all nodes already at 250%

[cunning glade]

That's what I thought

Is that the same for water ?

[versed cosmos]

i would assume so

although i have no idea how the number for water is actually calculated

[cunning glade]

9007199254740991

That's how much water

Supposedly

[versed cosmos]

but how does the website get that number

[cunning glade]

Same always wondered

Wouldn't the man who made it know

[dense violet]

SFTOOLS? doesn't give node %

[cunning glade]

@reef basin hopefully u don't mind the ping but we are curious

Or at least I am

[unborn moss]

Oh guess my mistake then, assumed they wouldn't automatically shard everything.

[versed cosmos]

you cant sloop extractors

you mean shards

[cunning glade]

Which kinda lame but fair

Tho idk if even that worth

Maybe for oil sure tho then we would need more than 600 pipes

[unborn moss]

yea obviously it's what I meant...

[cunning glade]

And 1200 belts

[versed cosmos]

raw resources are the hard limit of the game

[cunning glade]

So ig fair

Yeah kinda annoying

[versed cosmos]

slooping extractors would also make mk3 miners not worth it

when you first unlock them anyway

[cunning glade]

True

#screenshots message well got the refs done and some inputs but food time unfortunately

i think next floor has trains come in with rubber and plastic and also make stuff so prolly logistic floor

ig i ill just drone supercompters away too

but then we have computers and super ones

[neon forge]

just completed phase 2 automation, now just to wait till i have enough stored up for the space elevator and make a big building wrapping it all in the meantime

this might take a little bit

[covert quarry]

how much turbofuel does a fully overclocked fuel generator burn?

[versed cosmos]

well how much does it burn at 100%

multiply that by 2.5

[dense violet]

!wikisearch fuel powered generator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel+powered+generator

[versed cosmos]

the search bar you can access by pressing n is also a calculator

[severe pewter]

Oh, so hey, I've started secretly adding loops into the fluid systems, and so far so good, but I haven't done any difficult setups yet.

This last one was just 5 mk.1 pipes (no 2s yet) feeding two rows of 16 generators each. Two feed the front, two feed the back, and the last is split into the middle of both. The loop is just past the exit point of the buffers up top where all 5 pipes are connected, and the buffers sit just past the headlift limit, so they stay about 75% full.

But it's the first setup in a while I didn't have to fight with at all (other than to maximize headlift with only 2 mk.1 pumps each).
Kudos on the tip~

-oh, also - other than using the max flow rate, are there any limitations on the gases I should know about? I've only just started using them, and so far it seems like I can go full 3D Pipes Screensaver, and everything is still plug n' play

[dense violet]

you often want to loop high flow, don't use buffers don't use valves , flood the system

[torn lynx]

MAN, LOOKING OFR MERCERSPHERE REALLY TAKE A BIT

[severe pewter]

idk, I've always built my systems to run dry

[torn lynx]

capslock\

[stone quiver]

If you're not attempting to run 100% full over long distance/vertical pipes don't need any tricks really

[dense violet]

... why?

[stone quiver]

What does that mean run dry?

[severe pewter]

I mentioned it, because I still remember this one manifold system of....a lot, I forget the number, but it was a couple full mk.2 pipes of fuel being converted to turbo I think, and that gave me hell trying to stabilize.

[severe pewter]

Cause that way if something is taken offline for any reason, I can just turn it back on and forget about it. I don't have to babysit it while it boots up.

[dense violet]

in general full pipes are more stable at high flows so starving systems might have been wrecking things

[dense violet]

I don't understand how empty pipes does that for you

[severe pewter]

Easiest workaround is to make the inputs into vertical drops, usually about 6m tall. It sucks fluid as it sloshes past, and its size works like a small buffer. Outputs need to be set up like candy canes to work the same, but in reverse. I'm just making use of gravity.

[feral jay]

It's flat out impossible to run pipes at max capacity if they're not full...

[dense violet]

oh right you're set into making complicated systems that fall over easily

[severe pewter]

Nah, once everything's tuned right, I don't have to mess with it anymore. It's the setup that's a pain.

[cold berry]

So my strategy with coal power so far has been "huh the water pressure is low, better add a water extractor. That didn't work. Better add more flow extenders. That didn't work. Huh. Guess I need more water extractor..." And so on

[dense violet]

you have spoken often of taking days to get a system working.

which shouldn't be the case

[feral jay]

wth is a "flow extender"?

[cold berry]

The pump thingy

The thing with the two things. You add power to it

[severe pewter]

Which again, is why I appreciate the tip with the loops. Saved a ton of time

[feral jay]

Ah, pumps do absolutely jack shit aside from pumping fluid UP

[dense violet]

I mean loops help but the yaren't a cure all if you're running dry pipes and buffers

[cold berry]

Ah. So the extractors was all I needed

I feel so

Dumb

But that's the game lol

Having fun

That'll free up a lot of power overhead

[plush raft]

i amount of times i thought the pumps made liquids go through pipes faster is uncountable

[feral jay]

I'm still working the kinks out of a 600/min turbofuel powerplant, it's almost completely stable but was still hiccuping every ten minutes or so, last time I checked it