satisfactory

[green fiber]

@cunning glade was asking about it

[wanton cloud]

yall i sent a vid of my first computer factory! wasn't easy but it was so fun to do #streams-and-videos

r yall proud of me

[unique trail]

nice

[shadow talon]

10/10, Design is awesome and the space to improve is great! Question though, i have this problem to, how will you transport the computers, drone or train?

[wanton cloud]

oh crap i didn't adapt the place to trains

[soft marsh]

Should I build a Fused Modular Frame (FMF) factory somewhere and bus everything to it (HMF, NG, Aluminum Cases) or should I add a couple blenders to my HMF Factory and bus in NG and Aluminum? 🤔

[shadow talon]

I would use drones

[wanton cloud]

who cares. im in phase 3 so trains are a new concept to me

[shadow talon]

Im planning on that. The transport though is hard.

[wanton cloud]

i'll probably transport by tractor to a train station, and then via train to wherever i need them

[shadow talon]

Drones are way better honestly.

[wanton cloud]

problem is that i didn't get to them yet, still phase 3 for the first time

[cunning glade]

I get this part but both say 5x150/m so that's where I'm confused

[shadow talon]

Ok.

[cunning glade]

Cuz isn't that the same amount?

[soft marsh]

I'm thinking I might drone in the NG and Aluminum. I have both of those things already built across the map and instead of building super long trains it might be better to do drones since its low volume overall

[unique trail]

are blueprints here availeble

[shadow talon]

How do you get Radio control units?

[wanton cloud]

ok

[soft marsh]

Havent built a factory for those yet

I'm in the middle of a complete rebuild, so I'm just doing things piece meal

HMF was the one I was focused on because I kept running out of them while building other things

[cunning glade]

Cuz too me both say 150x5 so that means they use the same amount

[shadow talon]

I have a factory thats big but not that good looking.

[cunning glade]

Ah yk it's the end part u can't zoom out on mobile

I'm just fucking dumb

Now it makes sense

[distant bay]

its either that, or concrete for foundations

[soft marsh]

Fortunately I havent run out of those yet lol I have like three depots devoted to just concrete

[distant bay]

i swear, every time i'm expanding my factory floors, i run out of concrete

[cunning glade]

Get pure iirc it's called or wet and ur chilling

[distant bay]

its really annoying that dim depots are so late game

[soft marsh]

Are they? Arent they like Phase 2?

[last bluff]

satisfactory cured my arachnophobia, somewhat (I did not use the mode)

[distant bay]

wait they're phase 2?

[soft marsh]

Theyre super early game

[distant bay]

you did WHAT

[wise junco]

yeah I always unlock DD super early

[distant bay]

i thought they were late game

#story-spoilers

[fluid sapphire]

Drones are great for low throughput, trains for high throughput - they fill completely different niches, you also need to produce fuel for drones, something you don't need to do for trains. Then again you do have to build rail... But then again, rail is reusable. Anyway, trains are great

[torn lynx]

my bad

[sonic slate]

anyone willing to start a game with me?

[distant bay]

#1201555265942724758

[distant bay]

the two things satisfactory and factorio share, trains, and belt spaghetti

[sturdy pivot]

i have a controller plugged into my PC, and disabled the controller vibration in the menu, but it still vibrates every time i detonate a cluster nobelisk. is this a bug?

[last bluff]

lack of orbital lasers

[cunning glade]

They aren't?

U can legit get them first phase no?

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Infact dd are too early imo

Like In factorio bots feel decently balanced cuz u get them later

[distant bay]

but dds are just way to early

[cunning glade]

In this u get dd so early they feel very op tbh

[last bluff]

my personal grief is that there's no infinitely expandable ME system (like AE2)

[cunning glade]

Legit what dds are?

Well not infinite ig

But not needed

[last bluff]

not quite tbh

[last bluff]

we have different needs

[cunning glade]

I was saying for DD too be infinite

Plenty available in game

[cunning glade]

I just don't see a use for a system like that

This isn't Minecraft where u hoard loot

[last bluff]

yet I still hoard loot (and it's fun)

[cunning glade]

Why not sink it for coupons the superior loot

[last bluff]

tbh I mostly would just love to see some rebalance where it takes much more power if you wanted to squeeze some capacity

[unique trail]

why nobody answer my question?

[cunning glade]

Them taking power could be neat but they don't really need more capacity

[last bluff]

fair

[agile glen]

.

[last bluff]

,

[fluid sapphire]

I think in a game that's very heavy on inventory management so much so that it becomes a chore if you want to do anything at scale, DDs are not op at all, rather they eliminate unnecessary tedium

[cunning glade]

.

[cunning glade]

I think the heavy inventory management was fun at the start and a core part of the game pre 1.0 so after 1.0 u don't have too do that pretty quickly and it just idk kinda sucks

I mean it doesn't cuz it's nice

Just what I miss about alpha partially

[last bluff]

more storage systems would be nice

just because it's fun to build storage systems

[fluid sapphire]

You miss the tedium of inventory management? Different strokes I guess

I always thought that in basically every game it's just a pain in the ass point of friction between me and actually enjoyable gameplay

oh no, I forgot this one item, time to travel 5km to base and back

Or

oof, I need a lot of very specific items, better make sure I don't miss something

Or any other flavor of pain

[bitter crow]

yo why cant i place water exctractor further out?

[rugged widget]

Where are you trying to place it?

[fluid sapphire]

Meaning?

[unique trail]

shopuld i make videos in german?

[bitter crow]

far out into the sea

[cunning glade]

Theres edges of the map u can't build past

[rugged widget]

Probably a world border. I’ve never tried swimming out too far.

[bitter crow]

sigh

[cunning glade]

Always check u can place water extractors there before building there

[fluid sapphire]

Your question was a bit vague, but no, no blueprints on the server, there was some kind of website, should be easy to find off Google

[unique trail]

and should i make youtube video in german from satis?

[cunning glade]

Not necessarily miss but it was a big part of the game that's basically not at all I wish it was there a little bit more but not much cuz like u said it is annoying but it's also nice for the flow of the game🤷

[cunning glade]

Yeah but going 5km takes a min with hypertube cannons so distance isn't really an issue

[fluid sapphire]

Very niche audience, German speakers who play satisfactory, you'll also be competing with popular channels that make satisfactory content in English, but if you think it'd be fun, go for it

[warm finch]

Search YouTube for German satisfactory. If there isn't any or not enough, definitely an opportunity to make one!

[cunning glade]

Generally speaking if ur trying too grow ur channel having the wider audience is the best but do what u want

[unique trail]

is there a satis discord in german?

[cunning glade]

Idk how big this game is in the German space but ik it's pretty big here especially with console release

Also I feel more German people speak English

Than people who speak English and learn German too

I could be wrong but what I tend too find just being online and meeting people from different places

[unique trail]

but my english is not good enough to play this game in english

[cunning glade]

Ik a few channels that use a bot voice that translates what they say from whatever language too English I've watched them and not cared so that's an option too technically

[jagged nymph]

i tried to learn german but my small brain is too stupid to learn it

[cunning glade]

Fair lol

I feel that

[unborn nova]

how do i setup a manifold where the stuff that needs the item gets priority and overflow gets sunk?

[jagged nymph]

smart splitter

[warm finch]

Put a smart splitter on the first splitter for the manifold. Set one exit to overflow and put a belt to the awesome sink

[unborn nova]

oh i see i didnt know smart splitter had an overflow option

thats perfect thanks

[jagged nymph]

thats the only thing i use smart splitters for lol

i dont think ive ever used a smart splitter without overflow option

[warm finch]

When the manifold is full, it will sink the rest. For items that are used for building or for where I will use more of later, I put down an ISC with a smart splitter on the isc Input. That way the manifold and then the isc fills up first before items are sunk

[unborn nova]

whats an isc?

[unborn nova]

ye i think thats the most useful thing about them

[warm finch]

Sorry, industrial storage container

[unborn nova]

oh gotca

[fluid sapphire]

Big brain, my system is to have 2 smart splitters at the end of my manifold

But I think you need 2 anyway if you want to prioritise the flow

[warm finch]

Smart splitters and priority power switches are my absolute must have for all factories I build

[warm finch]

One is sufficient

[unborn nova]

ye im running a system for my aluminum where the silica from the solution goes on a conveyor with a priority merger

[warm finch]

Good application. When you unlock it, you'll probably want to switch to sloppy alumina alt recipe. Gets rid of the silica requirement

[unborn nova]

sloppy alumina?

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, I guess for a typical setup where the output doesn't go anywhere, yes, I often produce a little extra that I then skim, that's where I need 2

[unborn nova]

i actually have that unlocked should i swap

[torn lynx]

i may or may not have to rebuild my entire base for the storage dimentions

[stiff dock]

is placing down foundations everywhere worth it?

[warm finch]

Up to you but definitely check it out. I personally love it

[stiff dock]

cuz it's a lot of work

[fluid sapphire]

Place them as needed

[warm finch]

If your goal is to keep things organized and easy to expand on the future, yes

[wise junco]

placing it down where youre building is worth it for organization

[fluid sapphire]

Don't pre-emptively build lots of foundations

[warm finch]

More work now for time saved later and all that

[unborn nova]

i think i will, i might just deconstruct everything i got idk

i finished phase 5 but i wanna keep playing this save so i might full revamp my everything

[warm finch]

Combined with one of the scrap aluminum alt recipes (uses either coal or coke), along with pure aluminum (smelters), you can really crank out a TON of aluminum ingots and it's very easily scalable

[fluid sapphire]

I think the operative word here is everywhere

In which case, dont

[stiff dock]

also for fuel it's really tedious to go around grabbing a bunch of leaves

[unborn nova]

ye i think i needa start using more alt recipes

[fluid sapphire]

Work towards coal power and say goodbye to collecting leaves for a while

[unborn nova]

some of them are lowk crazy i just dont put in the extra time to get water or smth for like double the output

[fluid sapphire]

Really just don't build very large until you get to coal power

[stiff dock]

where do i beg coal

[warm finch]

Are you using solid biofuel for your burners? If not, switch to that ASAP. Will give you more flexibility and time to work towards coal power

[fluid sapphire]

Beg?

[stiff dock]

yes i'm making the leaves into biofuel

[warm finch]

Gotta find it on the map

[warm finch]

Bio mass or solid biofuel? They are different

[fluid sapphire]

It's a tier 3 milestone I believe

[stiff dock]

biomass

[fluid sapphire]

Finding coal by itself isn't enough, you cant produce coal power before doing the milestone

[stiff dock]

how do i make solid biofuel

[warm finch]

Unlock chainsaw and then you'll be able to make solid biofuel

And chainsaw will help you pick up a lot more wood/leaves

[fluid sapphire]

Leaves/wood - > constructor makes biomass - > another constructor makes solid biofuel - > profit

[torn lynx]

I AHVE LEARNED YOU CAN EXPLODE THE BIG AHH MUSHROOM THIGNS

[warm finch]

They don't have it unlocked yet

[fluid sapphire]

Ah.

Well, glue yourself to the milestones in the hub

Tell you everything you need to know

Also do research, as much as possible as soon as possible

Lots of very handy stuff

[bitter crow]

okay, so im soon moving onto stage 3 of the game, and i dont really know what i should focus on, any tips?

[warm finch]

Yes

[fluid sapphire]

Phase 3?

Don't be afraid to branch out, it's inevitable

[warm finch]

Lol in all seriousness, keep progressing on the milestones and MAM research. Also make sure you're sinking stuff for tickets to buy from the awesome shop

[fluid sapphire]

Expand, the whole map is your playground

[bitter crow]

yeah im really excited for trains

[warm finch]

I like trains!

[bitter crow]

is plastic and fuel generators gonna play a big role?

[bitter crow]

my pfp is me riding a train in my younger years

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message choo choo mother******

[warm finch]

Look at how fundamental it is in our modern world. That's your answer

[bitter crow]

ALOT

i guess ill build plastic factories on the oil close to my base, and fuel gens further away

[fluid sapphire]

Plastic and rubber are perfect candidates to centralise and ship out to where they are needed

[warm finch]

You'll probably have to keep them close together. At least initially until you unlock more alt recipes

[bitter crow]

oh, so should i make one major plastic fac and then ship it out across the map?

[zenith pecan]

That's why I processed the entire spire coast.

[warm finch]

Plus it's helpful to remember that it's always easier to move solids than fluids

[fluid sapphire]

You don't have to, but it can be a good idea

[warm finch]

Not at this time. You're still in the tutorial stages lol

[fluid sapphire]

That's true, you probably don't want to do that until later, when you have more efficient recipes

[zenith pecan]

I've gone over the spire as I've been building access & power causeways, it seems I have fully developed the zone, nothing left to exploit.

[warm finch]

And belts, and pipes lol.

[bitter crow]

very well then

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, quite

[warm finch]

Mk1 pipes suck for building at scale

[fluid sapphire]

Well, yeah, you need small productions of each to get yourself started

I think you can say that about just about any product

[zenith pecan]

Not really, I have used the hell out of mk1 pipes in both my spire project and my large scale power production, they work well enough.

[forest dew]

I was wondering what you do with a death create at the bottom of no where but showing on the map. I slipped off the cliff and well yeah..

[cunning glade]

MK2 kinda do too

[bitter crow]

i dont think there is alot of oil in my area

[fluid sapphire]

I think you might be able to use SCIM to move it or delete it

[bitter crow]

so i reckon ill have a small scale large factory

[cunning glade]

9600 fluid a min needs 16mk2 pipes which is a bit silly

[forest dew]

SCIM?

[fluid sapphire]

The whole map is your area

[warm finch]

Yeah you can't pay me to build at scale with mk1 pipes. You however, are a glutton for punishment lol

[bitter crow]

yeah i just reckoned now in the beginning

[fluid sapphire]

Satisfactory calculator interactive map

[forest dew]

oh I see

[zenith pecan]

Works out well for a pretty bulletproof system.

[forest dew]

I never realised that website could do that

[warm finch]

Get cracking! That's the game limitations right now for fluids.

[fluid sapphire]

You can upload your save and do some stuff to it

[unique trail]

there are good tools for calculationg everything

[forest dew]

yeah I been using it to find resources

[warm finch]

I don't care, you can't pay me to use mk1 when I can use mk2 lol. I've seen your builds. You're crazy

[forest dew]

But didnt realise you can move it

[zenith pecan]

I have mining towers appearing all over the map now 🤣

[cunning glade]

Well I already finished it was a 9600 rocket fuel plant

[fluid sapphire]

I don't know the exact options it gives you

[forest dew]

I will have a look

Thank you so much

[cunning glade]

Maxing pipes at a constant 600 flow is my fav thing too do tho

[zenith pecan]

While they're a pain in the rear to use due to dumb snapping that's offset AND too far, the vertical splitters & mergers let me realise the slender tower project I started years ago.

[warm finch]

Finally! That's awesome

[forest dew]

Can't paste a screenshot in

[warm finch]

Have to do it in #screenshots

[zenith pecan]

Here's three of them all producing ingots for a nearby ironworks #design-and-architecture message

[forest dew]

#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

Time to go to the tunnel network and get 6460 plastic & 3660 rubber moved to the dunes.

[cunning glade]

Why all in one spot

[zenith pecan]

That's where I'll be using it across multiple factories.

[cunning glade]

I have a plant making 6450. Rubber and 3000 plastic and then another making 3000 plastic I just plan too train it all around not too one spot

[cunning glade]

Ah fair ig I could attempt too make them all in one spot

[warm finch]

Because this player is known to do absolutely insane builds! Check out their work

[cunning glade]

Ik he sounds like me lol

[zenith pecan]

Only one of me 😛 , I am a male, not a plural 😛

[warm finch]

You haven't beaten the game or used all of the alt recipes yet lol. You still have a long ways to go, grasshopper

[cunning glade]

I'm kinda happy I'm gonna make 60 pasta a min since warp drives use pasta

[fluid sapphire]

It's a grammatically correct gender neutral way to refer to a person

[warm finch]

Lol good luck with that

[cunning glade]

Well yeah the ending of the game has only been out for a year and I've been busy with other games

[zenith pecan]

Doesn't matter, I still hate it and will aim for people to not refer to me in that way.

[cunning glade]

I got the 50hmf a min setup so going good so far

[fluid sapphire]

People don't know your gender just like that :p

[torn lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/deepfriedwoomy-gif-20893284

[warm finch]

Feel free to indicate your gender in your discord name and I'll happily refer to your preferred gender.

[torn lynx]

those friggen spiders

and its an embed fail \

[zenith pecan]

I'd sooner be misgendered than refered to that way 🤷‍♂️

[cunning glade]

Also I prolly won't ever use all of the alts some of them I dislike

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, sure

[cunning glade]

For example electrode stuff

[warm finch]

What about it do you hate?

[zenith pecan]

Oh, spire not quite fully developed, not all the oil extracters have stairs access.

[cunning glade]

Idk just have had a dislike for it

[warm finch]

Do you have all the wells developed as well?

[cunning glade]

Mainly that it wants lame ass oil

And there's not a lot of oil on the map

[zenith pecan]

Yes, every source of oil and three iron nodes in the far west of the spire is being exploited.

[warm finch]

What's wrong with oil? Once you unlock well pressurizers you will have access to more oil than you know what to do with

[warm finch]

Why am I not surprised? Ofc you do lol!

[cunning glade]

Nothing wrong with it just using most of it

[warm finch]

Except you're not is what I'm trying to say

[cunning glade]

Well currently yes cuz I haven't built phase 4 stuff

[brave violet]

how do i get between regions?

[cunning glade]

But pasta uses almost 3k rubber

[unkempt blade]

Oil is ok I guess but it doesn't have enough recipes that use screws so it's mostly just losers using oil

[warm finch]

Walk over there

[cunning glade]

And that's like half my rubber

[brave violet]

is there a better way?

[warm finch]

Slide jump

Or use a jet pack

[ornate saffron]

... how lol

[warm finch]

Or drive a vehicle

[brave violet]

can i build over there?

over the void?

[warm finch]

The whole map is yours too exploit and build how you see fit

[ornate saffron]

ya, you can build in the death boxes if you like

[brave violet]

i ask if this is possible

[brave violet]

what is that

[unkempt blade]

it's boxes that cause death

[ornate saffron]

thats where if you walk into the map just kills you

[cunning glade]

Making 30 a min that's slooped too 60

[ornate saffron]

ya, but what step uses the rubber?

[warm finch]

Nuclear pasta is one of them

[ornate saffron]

pasta is Pressure conversion cube plus copper powder

[warm finch]

Yes is what we're all saying, you can build anywhere on the map that doesn't kill you

[unkempt blade]

That's a good idea. The pasta will be much chewier with heavy flex frames

[warm finch]

Alt recipes

[cunning glade]

I'm gonna be making 36000 copper ingots a min holy moly

[ornate saffron]

pasta itself doesnt have alt recipes hence me asking what step lol

[cunning glade]

Pure copper is so peak

Top recipe like ever

[warm finch]

The materials used to make the nuclear pasta parts

[warm finch]

Take your pick

[cunning glade]

Well I need 60 computers

A min

Also I don't think it was pasta cuz it only uses like 1k plastic

[warm finch]

It's good. But not the top for sure

[cunning glade]

Something used 2k rubber tho

[cunning glade]

I don't think this would be possible without pure

[torn lynx]

the hell is up with this forest, there uranium everywhere

[cunning glade]

Pure iron and copper basically double ur iron and copper pretty good

[warm finch]

Watch out for the radiated creatures lol

[bitter crow]

okay so, will i want to transport my liquids packed or not?

[unkempt blade]

well if I were rubbermaxing it...

• concrete
• HMF
• radio control units
• circuit boards
• crystal oscillators
• reinforced plates

[cunning glade]

I mean without pure I need 36k copper ore a min

[ornate saffron]

@brave violet i dont think so but if you can find a way to get there without dying then yes

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[brave violet]

bruh

[ornate saffron]

So I havent tried since 1.0 but in update 8 you could go fast enough using a hyper tube cannon that you could get to the other side of the death box with out dying and build off the map

[brave violet]

are hypertubes expensive?

[warm finch]

What are you trying to transport and for what purpose?

[warm finch]

They are as expensive or cheap as you want it to be

[bitter crow]

fuel and water and such

[ornate saffron]

No but even if you got there. There is no resources. So no power

[warm finch]

Easier to build near fluids and transport solids at scale

[cunning glade]

What

[brave violet]

i am trying to move forward for oil

[unkempt blade]

I heard if you make a big enough HT cannon you can go off one side of the map and come back on the other side

[warm finch]

Scan for oil and then walk/run in that direction

[warm finch]

Lol be nice

[unkempt blade]

Flat-mappers are just conspiracy theorists. The map is a sphere

[cunning glade]

What would u say is the best then

Or top just curious

[zenith pecan]

Last time I made a large cannon, 166 sections, it just crashed the game before even leaving the muzzle.

[warm finch]

HOR and Diluted fuel are absolute MUST haves. Along with sloppy alumina. Classic battery is really good if you plan to go with drones at mass scale. Nitro rocket fuel is bae if you are going massive fuel gen plant. Then your pick of nuclear fuel/components

[warm finch]

I remember that. Was hysterical when we all talked about it here

@brave violet the mountains off in the distance are just a backdrop.

[bitter crow]

alr should i make 10 or 20 rip a mintue

ive heard it builds up really quickly

[warm finch]

Up to you

[jagged nymph]

i wanna start another satisfactory save but i feel like evertime by the time i get to like tier 7 i start to get way too overwhelmed and cant get anything done

[torn lynx]

DANG,M I NEED... SO MUCH MERVER SPHERES

capslock

[unkempt blade]

I'd just work on breaking big projects into smaller projects and focus on one thing at a time. Unless you know what you'll do differently in the new save to be less-overwhelmed it probably isn't the answer for your problem

You don't need enormous factories to beat the game so you can keep stuff simple and keep making progress if it's easier to keep momentum

[jagged nymph]

theres just so many super complicated crafting trees later on

[zenith pecan]

That approach is why I built 23 oil platforms to chew up the spire, instead of one giant refinery that can be a huge pain to troubleshoot.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah just finishing stuff helps me stay motivated. It's hard to stare at the same thing for days and days

[ornate saffron]

it warrents cap lock

[torn lynx]

sorey

also anyone have advice on getting mercer spheres?

[unkempt blade]

IT'S OK WE STILL LOVE YOU

[torn lynx]

:(

[jaunty jewel]

explore with object scanner

[torn lynx]

i am, though its proving extremely slow

[jaunty jewel]

explore faster

[torn lynx]

i also wanted to tap into the uplaod thigns to the storage power. looks liek it makes life hell of a lot easier

[jaunty jewel]

the best places to explore imo is around the top of the map with the spire coast (next to dune desert above northern forest) down to the titan forest

lots of slugs and other stuff

[vapid zinc]

Is 2550 oil into rocket fuel really only 139k power ?

[torn lynx]

also its aparently satans breeding ground of uranium creatures

[jaunty jewel]

yes and Spider

[jaunty jewel]

no, its 612k

however you did it was insanely inefficient

[soft marsh]

HMF with an FMF branch finished - now to go do something else for awhile lol

[vapid zinc]

I did nothing yet, just put it in Satisfactory Modeler

[covert quarry]

what does the apa do?

alien power augmenter

[jaunty jewel]

yeah so the way you set it up there was inefficient

or rather you didnt maximise output for input of crude oil

[hollow hemlock]

Use different recipes based on what other materials you have at hand

[vapid zinc]

It's oil => nitro rocket fuel => then I'm making 120 rocket fuel/min, 222 fully maxed out power generators

[hollow hemlock]

And make sure to use the compacted coal byproduct to full effect

[zenith pecan]

I did that, the resulting foundry produces thousands of steel ingots.

Nitro rocket has no way to loop compacted coal.

[bitter crow]

how many encased industrial beams a minute should i want?

[hollow hemlock]

I guess that's one option, another is to embiggen your turbo fuel and then rocket fuel creation capacity

[nocturne nebula]

hey guys, wouldn't mind your input on this pls?#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

I don't need the extra power though, my power station is already an oversized monster.

[hollow hemlock]

All of them

[bitter crow]

alot?

[hollow hemlock]

Great, but you weren't the audience for that comment

[zenith pecan]

🤷‍♂️

[nocturne nebula]

do hyperboosters transmit power?

[unkempt blade]

"hyperboosters"? Is this a vanilla thing?

[zenith pecan]

Perhaps you should @ the person you're expecting to be the audience then 🤷‍♂️ , otherwise I'm going to respond as I see fit.

[nocturne nebula]

I meant hypertubes, lol

[unkempt blade]

No those don't transmit power

[zenith pecan]

No they don't, pity.

[nocturne nebula]

unfortunate!

[zenith pecan]

You was thinking along the same lines as the rail system I take it.

[native tapir]

Greeny, I saw this while searching for a train wars post I thought I saw in here (possibly another discord?). I will go to war for Greeny. If greeny gives me a list of names it's on brother. Nobody messes with Satisfactory Tools! Not even Satisfactory Calculator

A whole hit squad of coffee cups will come defend you by making the other people look silly.

[wanton cloud]

do you know the reason? im curious now

[wanton cloud]

also hi doug, nice finisher on the train wars you had there

[native tapir]

It's because he is pedantic and blunt. But this is what I like most about him

Thanks Portable!

[reef basin]

"uhh duhh greeny has different opinions than I do"

[wanton cloud]

hmm, never noticed that probably cause i dont have any issues

[nocturne nebula]

yep. not unlocked yet though

[wanton cloud]

the age-old reason. never gets old

[nocturne nebula]

on my fresh start for 1.1

[neon forge]

i really need to turn my volume down i forgot how LOUD this game can get, my power plant should just be called "the ear destroyer 9000"

[native tapir]

Greeny does a lot for the community

He can be pedantic and blunt. He has earned it. It's also a very funny and likable quality coming from him. Part of his charm and I'm not being sarcastic or anything

[ornate saffron]

i have a beef with you.

I challenege you to a nice Fight!

Your website is gorgous

[wanton cloud]

you can turn down the volume of specifically generators

[zenith pecan]

Tools actually makes builds like mine actually possible without me going insane with a pen & paper.

[wanton cloud]

...his website? what website does he posess

[native tapir]

The next time someone insults greeny they will feel the full might of coffee cup

[wanton cloud]

coffee cup so mighty it may leave a... cofee stain

[cunning glade]

Yo it's the Doug

[zenith pecan]

Mine wouldn't, I wouldn't throw the cup while it still has perfectly good coffee in it 😜

[neon forge]

does the coffee cup actually do anything or is it just a silly doodad you can buy for the funnies?

[cunning glade]

It's peak

[wanton cloud]

what if u took a cup too small and spilled it, therefore leaving the outer bottom of the cup... stained

[unkempt blade]

He's just too pragmatic about there being no best recipes when we all know that cast screws is the best recipe. Otherwise he's a great guy

[ornate saffron]

it keeps your rifle out of your POV

[white dawn]

Just aesthetics. For a time it was something you could hold in your hand during screenshots which didn't take too much of the screen, which made it nice for sharing shots

[native tapir]

Here you go @reef basin

A show of force

#streams-and-videos message

[wanton cloud]

i still dont know what website does greeny posess

[white dawn]

Nowadays you can just lower your arms or go into photo mode, of course

[ornate saffron]

satisfactory tools

[wanton cloud]

yo you fr?

[white dawn]

I still want flushing pipelines to replace the liquid in the cup with whatever was flushed

[nocturne nebula]

I love this game so much

[native tapir]

It's alright

[white dawn]

Which would apply different effects on the Pioneer if drunk. :D

[cunning glade]

Real I have missed it even tho I enjoy factorio

[ornate saffron]

is the swamp your favorite biome?

[ornate saffron]

yes

[frosty mirage]

Yea, its written on the site...

[unkempt blade]

it's in the footer of the site

[wanton cloud]

damn i never noticed

gotta say that site is helpful asf

[cunning glade]

It's like the site for this game

Pretty much the only one u need

[wanton cloud]

in my defense i never noticed cause i had a shortcut that goes straight to the calculator menu

[unkempt blade]

And yet he can't seem to understand that cast screws is the best recipe. It's truly puzzling when someone so smart and talented refuses to see reason

[neon forge]

i'm gonna have to go on a small genocide campaign to get all the tickets i need for all the deco items goddamn LOL

[ornate saffron]

find some SAM node. upgarde it as far as it can go and sink

[wanton cloud]

how much does raw sam go for in tickets?

as in points

[white dawn]

Alternatively/additionally: sink everything! For every item you're producing that goes into storage, slap a smart splitter in front of the storage, with an Overflow output heading to a sink. Once your storage is full, that'll start getting sunk forever (with brief interruptions whenever you take things out of that storage)

!wikisearch awesome sink

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+sink

[frosty mirage]

Sink all the overflow, you'll get everything fast

[white dawn]

^ full table of point values can be found there, btw

[wanton cloud]

oh thank you kind mister

[ornate saffron]

reanimated 160, fluc 1968. hence me saying upgrade it

[white dawn]

Though I still say to just sink everything you're producing. :) (Supplementing that with DNA is, of course, quite helpful too, especially early on)

[nocturne nebula]

nope, its a bit grim there if I recall

[wanton cloud]

am i blessed to not have been in the swamp a single time

[hollow hemlock]

Nah that's where they keep all the good stuff, else why would those giant poisonous spiders be standing guard

[unkempt blade]

people like it for rocket fuel but they're wrong because it limits how many trains you use to move sulfur around

[neon forge]

also i really need to get off my ass and make hypertube cannons to go to my power plant and back cause even with blade runners it takes a bit

[white dawn]

There's a lotta diverse resources to be found in there, and once your weaponry is up to snuff (or if you turn on peaceful/retaliate), combat's not a big deal in the game.

[wanton cloud]

i just found a nitrogen well, whats it used for

i mean when i played last time

[white dawn]

Its aesthetic is certainly a mood, but you can fit a lot of factory in there

[wanton cloud]

you will never catch me turning on peaceful/retaliate

[unkempt blade]

producing nitrogen

[white dawn]

Various things, really. Wiki could give you a full list

[wanton cloud]

i gotta get accustoumed to using the wiki more

[hollow hemlock]

Dissolving stuff into nitric acid

[white dawn]

Or just wait until you unlock the stuff that needs it. :D The game/codex will tell you when something needs it.

(Wiki is undoubtedly a fantastic resource, but the game will provide, when the time comes!)

[wanton cloud]

okay guys, last session i finished my most complex factory to date. the computer factory

now, we're gonna make a heavy modular frame factory

the notoriously hard to produce item

before that imma stock up on somersloops

[unkempt blade]

it's not so bad just make sure you use one of the recipes that uses screws

[dense violet]

why?

HMF are only complex to new people as it's the next complex thing on the list

[unkempt blade]

because we're out here screwmaxing!

[sinful sparrow]

hey there. does anybody know why my refineries aren't giving their fuel to the conencted output pipes? everything is powered and look just like the ones i made before

[frosty mirage]

Go hard drive hunting, you can use only limestone and iron for it with alts 👀

[white dawn]

It's the first time in the game that a single resource requires such a large factory compared to the output rates, really

The scale for HMF will often catch newer players by surprise

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with images 🙂 probalby something simple

[zenith pecan]

That reminds me, I plan a scaled up version of my old one, once all this plastic gets where its going.

[white dawn]

Once you're used to 'em they're really not a big deal, but IMO it's the first time players really bump up against scale

[wanton cloud]

im already out of alt recipes to pick

[zenith pecan]

Decision is 100 or 200 computers.

[sinful sparrow]

ok i will

[sick peak]

yeah my HMF factory was my first big one and ultimately led me to burn out of the game the first time, after that though it was easy

[acoustic bear]

HMF isn't too bad if you cut screws out

[frosty mirage]

Thats why i said go hunting for them, get that object scanner and go explore

[sick peak]

Thats what I did lol

[neon forge]

i'm dreading having to remake HMF production on this new run tbh LOL, but i'm in phase 2 still so i have some time

[acoustic bear]

and over produce encased beams and pipes

[frosty mirage]

Even with screws its not so bad

[white dawn]

Yeah, there are some alts which can really cut down on HMF-factory size. But it's also just experience, really

[wanton cloud]

i went past multiple burning out points for me (motor factory, oil refineries and now computer factory)

[white dawn]

Once you've been through the game once your sense of proportion really gets altered. :)

[acoustic bear]

this game is definitely a series of plateaus

[zenith pecan]

Just remember you need HMF to produce fuxed frames, so ensure you have the production to support both.

[wanton cloud]

every time i make a "hard to make" factory suddenly its like twice as easier to plan out and make

[white dawn]

Fields of refineries start becoming humdrum, etc. :D

[zenith pecan]

Swallow the spire coast with refineries 😄

[hollow hemlock]

I saved the day with making literally 1 manufacturer doing hmf. Am I a bad day saver? 😁

[frosty mirage]

Cast screws, encased hmf and encased pipe will require around 60-70 buildings for 5/m which is more than enough imo

[acoustic bear]

I found that if I care about 100% effieciency too much I burn out

I need to be OK with over producing or underproducing certain things as long as I'm getting some form of output

[frosty mirage]

You should not be ok with it

[sick peak]

I need 480 for my nuclear pasta

[white dawn]

Yeah, a nonideal factory giving you something is better than a "perfect" factory that's not running yet. :)

[frosty mirage]

Efficiency is key, ficsit must save humanity

[zenith pecan]

Once my dunes is back up and running, and I have proper transport to other areas, I'll actually share my save again.

[sick peak]

thats fair

[wanton cloud]

only in the short term

[wanton cloud]

thing is i should have burnt out by then but i didnt

[white dawn]

With an Independency mindset that's even the case for the rest of the game, since once you're done with a factory you're done with it forever, and never have to touch it again

[frosty mirage]

No one says the factory has to be done TODAY

[nocturne nebula]

how many hours in your current save?

[acoustic bear]

my problem is building something, moving to another area of the map, building something new and then forgetting what I've done previously

[white dawn]

Another reason why I advocate for Independency so frequently -- you're never haunted by past "mistakes"

[acoustic bear]

I try to label stuff now

[frosty mirage]

Organization, display signs for ins and outs

[zenith pecan]

961 atm, my old factory of the dunes and their outputs sit in containers while I rebuild something worth keeping though.

[white dawn]

("mistakes" in quotes because who knows what a "mistake" looks like for a sandbox game which most folks play singleplayer. :)

[nocturne nebula]

very nice

[sick peak]

yeah ran into this issue now, I made 15 hmf thinkinh it would be enough and now realising i need 30, so i need to make a new hmf factory

[acoustic bear]

yep. I also color code green for inputs and red for outputs as much as possible so when I'm looking at something it's really easy to orient myself

[zenith pecan]

I recently onlined the oil platforms and refinery that take up the entire spire coast, now I'm swimming in plastic, just waiting to be used.

[white dawn]

Yeah, if you just mentally resign yourself to the near-certainty that you'll Have To Make More Later™ then a lot of that stress can just go away

[wispy osprey]

At some point you realize that placing buildings for hours is definitely some tantalizing gameplay

[neon forge]

god i hope they never patch hypertube cannons they're way too cool

[frosty mirage]

I know exactly whats going on in my factories since im labeling them and using subfloors for logistics. I wanna do that for my comp and high speed coonector factory because its a damn mess without signs

[wispy osprey]

I got burned out of satisfactory 😔

[white dawn]

They've committed to keeping them in the game. They were broken for awhile during Update 8 development due to an Unreal Engine upgrade, but they patched them back in and decided to make them officially unoffical (or unofficially official, whatever). (Before then it was more "we're not specifically going to patch them out of the game but they're not an intended mechanic, so updates could remove the functionality")

[sick peak]

Yep. so all the factories I build now are of pretty big scale so I dont need to plan on scaling up or building more later

[zenith pecan]

While it won't affect most people, if you're one of those who makes saves that eat 40gb of ram, cannons do get negatively impacted by performance.

[sinful sparrow]

posted

[acoustic bear]

yep. computers, high speed connectors and super computers is where I get a bit squirrely but it's all in one location anyways

[sick peak]

I just finished building a test nuclear plant of 5 UFU/min and then im gonna make another one thats about 20 ufu/min

[acoustic bear]

build a better pc loser (jk)

[frosty mirage]

Is it weird that all my factories are vertical? I literally have no horizontal factory thats on foundations....

[sick peak]

No

[white dawn]

Hey, you've got 2km of vertical space to use, may as well use it. :)

[acoustic bear]

I really mix both. I have a few large planes stacked on top of each other

[frosty mirage]

I have absolutely 0 skills in horizontal building

[reef basin]

honestly, I have little reason to "go to war". If people have beef with me, I don't really care. I'm doing what I can in a way I want. I don't think I'm breaking any rules and if I was told to tone it down or whatever by mods, I would do it. If people don't like me for whatever reason, there's a block button, I don't really care about it. If it goes too far, I just ping mods and let them deal with it. But I don't want to lower myself to same level of "run a personal war against someone", I'd like to think I'm above that

[zenith pecan]

My next machine is likely AMD but I'm not really due to rebuild for a couple of years yet, though my pc is three years old now.

[acoustic bear]

honestly with them adding satisfactory to the consoles, I don't think there is much reason to upgrade anyways

consoles tend to be the bottleneck for most development

[zenith pecan]

My saves would in no way work with the consoles ram 🙁

[frosty mirage]

Actually my only horizontal builds are power infrastructure related because i dont wanna deal with vertical fluids

[native tapir]

Then what will you do with your new personal army @reef basin

[amber scroll]

AHHHHHHH cheese

[white dawn]

I was unfortunately rather due for a machine upgrade over the past year or so but Personal Life stuff just got in the way of having the energy/time to do anything about it. Now I'm stuck in AI Bubble Price Hell for the forseeable future; we'll see how that goes. :D

[amber scroll]

Hai

[white dawn]

Would really rather not pay like 3x what I'd otherwise have to just to get myself up to having a non-potato again

[zenith pecan]

Ouch dude, that's rough 🙁

[sick peak]

just build a ram factory irl duh

[white dawn]

lol

[amber scroll]

Real

[acoustic bear]

yeah. it's really a balancing act of making it work for the masses with low computer power and something that works on the 1% with 5080s or whatever

[white dawn]

I suppose this game does provide us with the skills, eh? Just a little plastic and maybe caterium.... Where's my build gun?

[acoustic bear]

and the masses tend to win

[reef basin]

send them my patreon link

just kidding, enjoy your stay and build factories

[zenith pecan]

I'm still using a 3090, I had to repair it last month due to the fans dying and to get at them you gotta tear the entire thing down because some numpty at asus thought having the screws from under the shroud was a good thing.

[native tapir]

But they are hungry for war. And for glory

[acoustic bear]

if you can repaste it and mount new fans a 3090 is still killer.

that 24gb of VRAM is going to reign supreme for a long time

[native tapir]

I suppose if I cannot send them to war with Greeny, I could send them to war with greeny...

[acoustic bear]

it's why I'm not getting rid of my 7900XTX

[frosty mirage]

Amd all the way tho

[swift turret]

7900xt is one of the best

[zenith pecan]

Already done, cheaper to spend £30 on fans than a few grand on a new card haha, I didn't get the later boards because I don't trust the 12v high power connecter that is great at melting and wrecking the socket.

[native tapir]

Whatever is in my Lenovo Thinkpad works fine.

[white dawn]

(This is all probably veering into #off-topic-tech territory, btw)

[swift turret]

I have a 6600xt which does numbers

Looking to upgrade to the 7900

[acoustic bear]

I wouldn't either. That 12v power connector freaks me out too

[frosty mirage]

Im running on 6950xt and its awesome

[native tapir]

Isn't this game mainly cpu heavy?

[acoustic bear]

those are such good value. you get all the latest features and the game is CPU heavy anyways

[zenith pecan]

Funny that the circuit boards from production look like graphics cards too.

[frosty mirage]

Not rly, cpu usage is around 50% on my swtup while gpu is 90%

[acoustic bear]

yeah. most performance issuees, especially later game is CPU related

[acoustic bear]

that's not really how that works.

50% usage can be 100% of 3 cores out of 6 cores

and games are still mostly single thread reliant

[frosty mirage]

Yea fair enough

Upgrading cpu is cheaper tho

[nocturne nebula]

yikes, what ya gonna use it for?

[frosty mirage]

My 7600x is absolutely fine and its not that expensive

[acoustic bear]

yep.

[zenith pecan]

The first thing is to hugely scale up my computer production, interim target is around 200, many of which will go into supercomputers and radio control units.

[acoustic bear]

a 7600x + any mid range GPU would be the ideal "meta" gaming pc build right now IMO

[frosty mirage]

7600x will go just fine up to 5090

[unkempt blade]

I'm mostly bummed I didn't pick up another SSD before everything tripled. The rest of my setup should last me a good while

[acoustic bear]

yep. it's really where the diminishing returns starts to kick in

[frosty mirage]

Yep, u can go further and go for 7800x3d and that will set you up for 3 more gpu generations

At least

[acoustic bear]

everyone talks about "future proofing" but that's a marketing/media word meant to confuse and shift the conversation away from the real thing everyone should be concerned with. "Diminishing returns"

I shudder anytime I hear "future proof"

[frosty mirage]

Most new gen cpus give like 3-4% performance upgrade which is unnoticeable imo

[acoustic bear]

also this

[unkempt blade]

ehh depends, for stuff like the CPU if you're on the edge of a new socket release you might be able to get an upgrade out of it if your rebuild cycle is short enough normally

[acoustic bear]

having gone to an X3D CPU recently I think that's been the biggest uplift in gaming performance of the last 3-5 years

[frosty mirage]

7800x3d is still one of the best damn cpus out there, i just dont see why you would go further than that

[acoustic bear]

the X3Ds just tend to hold higher .01% lows and feel much smoother

[acoustic bear]

I'd wager any X3D CPU would be my target for a new build or an upgrade if doing something today

even a 5800X3D on an AM4 board would be killer

or the microcenter 7600X3D

[nocturne nebula]

on SCIM is it possible to change the recommended mk3 miner to mk2?

[frosty mirage]

I had to fix my pc recently but it got pricey with the new motherboard and ventilation so i just went with the same 7600x, i thought of upgrading cpu but honestly didnt feel like throwing even more money when i know 7600x is more than capable for 6950xt based setup

[acoustic bear]

oh yeah. I just bought a bulk HDD recently instead of an SSD so I could clear up some SSD space

[acoustic bear]

I live right next to a microcenter and spend way too much time in there and get suckered into upgrading way too much. It's literally a bad habit

My O11 dynamic case has had like 3 fully different builds in it since ~2020

3900x/5700xt > 10900K/6950XT > 7900X/7900XTX > 9800X3D/7900XTX

[frosty mirage]

I have some friends obsessed with setups, i cant see why you would upgrade if not needed, they have fps competition setups but they alao have a family and jobs and their time on fps games doesnt justify the investment lol

[frosty mirage]

Do u regret the intel? 🤭🤭🤭

[acoustic bear]

I'm single with no family and decent income. Video games are my life

[acoustic bear]

not really. I like Intel OR AMD and tend to avoid nvidia

my previous 4790k build lasted me like 7 different GPUs through the 2010s

[frosty mirage]

I think my problem with intel is a principle one maybe, i just dont like the company lol

[acoustic bear]

I hope Intel can pull it together because an AMD monopoly won't be pretty either

and nvidia is basically scum

[frosty mirage]

They are forcing 6090 release in 2027

With their new release lol

Its gonna be fun watching with my empty pockets 💀

[acoustic bear]

tbh, I think my focus may shift more to handhelds in the future

I really enjoy the steam deck

[frosty mirage]

Not that i would go for any new gen even if i had the money tho

[acoustic bear]

having a PC in your hands with the deck is so cool

plus the price is affordable

[frosty mirage]

I enjoy my ps5 more than my pc, so i do assume a deck is even better

[acoustic bear]

imagine a PS5 in your hands

it's exactly that.

[frosty mirage]

Isnt the screen a limitation tho?

[spark ruin]

Meh
Its split evenly

[acoustic bear]

kinda but only on paper, in your hands it looks just fine. the resolution works perfect at the distances you tend to hold it at\

plus being 720p, it's easier for the GPU to handle and get decent FPS

you really don't notice IMO

[frosty mirage]

I mean im used to 55 inch tv for ps5 and an ultrawide 3440x1440 monitor

For pc

[acoustic bear]

plus the PS5 tends to upscale anyways from 720p or 900p IIRC

it's something that sounds a little weak if you're comparing spec for spec but when you use it IRL, you see it's perfectly capable for what it's intended for

[frosty mirage]

Might go for a deck at some point, but im sooo dry now after 600 euros dumped in fixing my damn pc

[spark ruin]

Its got much worse hardware
The small low rez display helps it cope with that atleast

[frosty mirage]

I think decks also have the mobility advantage

[acoustic bear]

yeah, it's constrained to like 15W, but overall, at 720p, the performance is surprisingly similar

you get an extremely similar graphics experience

overall there isn't anything a PS5 can handle that a steam deck can't without some slight tweaks most people won't notice

[spark ruin]

Amd really did it dirty by not giving it a better upscaler tho IMO

[acoustic bear]

honestly I don't like upscalers. the 7900XTX has the brute horsepower to render at native res

I'm fine with turning some effects and post processing down (in the future) as long as I can keep my textures and resolution at ultra

which that would also be a benefit of the 3090/4090 as well

and why those cards will age better than the rest of the VRAM constrained cards

[spark ruin]

Yeah but the better upscaler woukd also make that native rez look better

[wanton cloud]

got 10 somersloops on my exploration run, with a side of 2 disks. i'd say it was a pretty succesful run

[acoustic bear]

I love exploration early game

it feels so magical

[spark ruin]

As upscalers are really just fancy TAA algos

And TAA is generally considered to be native

[frosty mirage]

Im on a mercer spree lately, i decided to upgrade every storage with a merger and splitter line for sinking and i need 50 more to finish mam on depots plus what i need for my actual depots

[acoustic bear]

sure, but will I notice at 1440p? probably not and GPUs are insane money now

[wanton cloud]

good luck on that mate

[swift turret]

make it 1000

[acoustic bear]

I spent $1000 for my 7900XTX on launch day and I still consider it one of the best deals I've gotten on a GPU lately

[swift turret]

yeah thats a great deal considering a 5090 is $4000

$4000 is a down payment on a car

[frosty mirage]

7900xtx is tbh the next best thinf after 6950xt

[ornate saffron]

got my 6900xt for $900 CAD on launch day. i dont regret it

[acoustic bear]

6900XT are hella great too

I'd consider anything from a 6000 series AMD or newer or nvidia 3000 series or newer still a "great" card

[swift turret]

all the series are great for your wallet

[ornate saffron]

my roomate got a 3070 for the same price and complained that it didnt perform as well lol

[frosty mirage]

Because nvidia 🤡

[acoustic bear]

yup. the 3070 were definitely traps

[frosty mirage]

But i wont choose hate cause im a cool pioneer

[ornate saffron]

I bought a friend a 6600xt and a 5600x for his rig he still loves it.

there "was" some bang for buck gpus. right now kinda hard

[wanton cloud]

is there an upper limit to the amount of points a coupon requires

[acoustic bear]

I love PCs for the exact fact that it's such a wide range of hardware. someone can have a great time with a $5000 rig and someone can also have a great time with a $500 rig.

[ornate saffron]

i theritical limit i think @neon tulip what are your points at... i hope i pinged the right one.... there is like 9

[royal dagger]

why is this servrt

[swift turret]

$500 wont even cover the ram

[acoustic bear]

some may see PCs as elitist because such high end hardware exists but honestly I see it the exact opposite way. it's much more open and free ecosystem

[royal dagger]

what is htis server

[swift turret]

its a discord server

[frosty mirage]

They could if u go 2nd hand

[royal dagger]

what its for

[swift turret]

for talking

[royal dagger]

no

[swift turret]

like you're doing now

[wanton cloud]

did you deny us speech

[swift turret]

He has oil, americans get him!

[royal dagger]

wy its vcalled satisfactory

[keen vault]

for everybody’s favourite building hell (and lets game it out’s crimes against design)

[wanton cloud]

because it IS a satisfactory server

[royal dagger]

what

[wanton cloud]

were you possibly drunk when you joined this server

[royal dagger]

no

[frosty mirage]

You call it crime, i call it art with with manevolent intent

[jagged nymph]

why are you in this server if you dont know what its for

[royal dagger]

idk man

[keen vault]

we must make more “art with malevolent intent”

[jagged nymph]

why did you join it though

[reef basin]

Because that's how the game is called

[royal dagger]

i found it

[jagged nymph]

😭

[keen vault]

buy. the. game.

[frosty mirage]

I personally enjoy the conveyor spiral tornado thingy

[jagged nymph]

why did you join the server you found

[royal dagger]

wgat is it even about

[keen vault]

the conveyor pit of doom is a top 3

[frosty mirage]

Its the best game you'll ever play probably

[reef basin]

Maybe do some googling instead of asking 50 questions 🙂

[jagged nymph]

w h y d i d y o u j o i n t h e s e r v e r

[robust gyro]

Quick question for how many items is it smart to do a storage so how many slots

[royal dagger]

idk man

[keen vault]

factories and 1000s of hours of silly builds

[royal dagger]

12

[reef basin]

Dimensional depots aren't limited by number of items

[robust gyro]

Yea but i want one seperate

[reef basin]

Wdym

[wanton cloud]

what are fused modular frames used for? i wanna plan 2 steps ahead

[tall lantern]

!wikisearch fused modular frame

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fused+modular+frame

[royal dagger]

whatis you do in this game

[reef basin]

don't

[royal dagger]

!wikisearch dirt

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=dirt

[royal dagger]

what

[frosty mirage]

I usually go with 4 industrial storages+depot per item produced if thats what you mean

[reef basin]

Please use google

[royal dagger]

how do i does that

[robust gyro]

No i mean for how many individual items

[reef basin]

You almost never need more than 1

[wanton cloud]

everytime i ask a question and i get linked to wiki, a small part of me dies. not out of irritation but shame since i didn't look there first

[reef basin]

All that you want to have in the separate storage

[robust gyro]

Yea and you reccomendation?

50 or 100 or more?

[frosty mirage]

You dont, its just a pleasure to see them piled up, they look like a soundsystem

[reef basin]

My recommendation? Items that you want

[robust gyro]

🫠

[tall lantern]

if it can be used by the build gun it's a reasonable depot candidate

[royal dagger]

i search the game on the app store but i dont see it

[robust gyro]

Alr i do 50 first and add

[jagged nymph]

its only on steam

[royal dagger]

what that

[tall lantern]

so, usually best to just put them on each individual production line

[frosty mirage]

Are you just trolling?

[reef basin]

Not true

[wanton cloud]

brother are you fucking with us or what

[jagged nymph]

oh yeha its on console now i forgor

[tall lantern]

it was on epic longer than steam

[frosty mirage]

Also epic tho

[jagged nymph]

oh its on epic?

[reef basin]

It was on epic even before steam

[jagged nymph]

oh

well point is its not on the app store

[royal dagger]

but then how you get it

thats the place where you get games

[jagged nymph]

how old are you?

[tall lantern]

no that's where you get games

[spark ruin]

You would

[tall lantern]

the adults here use PCs and consoles

[spark ruin]

[royal dagger]

why would i tell you

[reef basin]

no, adults only use PCs 😛

[wanton cloud]

we're curious

[nocturne nebula]

I miss the original community managers

[winged herald]

4/10 rage bait

[frosty mirage]

Do you own a pc?

Or a console?

[royal dagger]

no

i have a ipad

[tall lantern]

hey now, I occasionally console... granted it's 30 years old for the nostalgia, but still

[frosty mirage]

Well then you can let yourself out i guess

[wanton cloud]

jesus christ 2400 iron per minute JUST for 10 HMF per minute?!

might go into coma

[tall lantern]

consider alt recipes

and/or get used to numbers spiralling

[wanton cloud]

WHICH ONES😭

[reef basin]

I mean I also have a "console" - it's a handheld emulator for good old GBA/GBC games

[jagged nymph]

just curious though how old are you cause you sound like youre maybe 7 years old

[frosty mirage]

I would be very offended if i didnt think of myself as a child

[jagged nymph]

dude get off of discord

[ornate saffron]

i still use my psp for that

[wanton cloud]

this is how ik this is ragebait

[reef basin]

those that would help you based on your preferences

[tall lantern]

isn't the minimum age for discord like 13

[reef basin]

<@&387163995947270144>

[winged herald]

yeah lol

[wanton cloud]

yall hes messing with yall

[royal dagger]

i dont wanna to

[tall lantern]

don't want that sorta liability here

[royal dagger]

you aret the boss of me

[winged herald]

all you have to do is report his account for being underage, discord bans pretty fast

[jagged nymph]

everyone report this message

[wanton cloud]

theres zero chance some 9 yo joined a random game discord asking about sumn app store

[royal dagger]

what did i do

[wanton cloud]

zero

[frosty mirage]

Please leave

[wanton cloud]

please ignore

[jagged nymph]

you have to be 13 years old to be on discord

[royal dagger]

you cant tell me what to do

[reef basin]

no but Discord owners can

[swift turret]

just report them and move on

[winged herald]

hes clearly trolling you guys very poorly but either way report him for being underage 🤣

[jagged nymph]

no thats the rule according to discord, they are going to ban you

[wanton cloud]

can yall not see hes messing with yall. report the message on the slim chance it's real and stop talking to them

[swift turret]

then he can be banned by being reported

[royal dagger]

i didnt even do anything

wait i didnt do anything

[wanton cloud]

just wait 4 more years brother

[winged herald]

🤷 his fault

[royal dagger]

dont ban me plez

[jagged nymph]

womp womp buddy

[tall lantern]

maybe try playing around with alts in a planning tool, see which ones cut down on resources you want to cut down on. IIRC there's a few that'll reduce your need for iron at least

[wanton cloud]

i will use the tools site

[reef basin]

you cannot be on the platform at all, not just this server

terms and conditions say that you need to be 13 or higher to use discord
you've read them (or at least checked a checkbox confirming that you read them and agree with them) when you registered

[winged herald]

even if he is trolling its his own stupidity for joking about breaking discords tos, they still ban for that lol. If he actually is over 13 he can prove that to discord and theyll unban him

[wanton cloud]

and to think i wanted to do 20 hmf at one point...

[soft marsh]

Need to figure eout what my next project is now that my HMF/FMF is done. Any suggestions?

[wanton cloud]

did u do computers?

[tall lantern]

mmm, HMFs are one of the first things people hit that use a lot more resources than expected

[soft marsh]

I might've? I need to look around my map and see if they're still there.

[frosty mirage]

P O W E R

Dont listen to people telling you to not increase power

[wanton cloud]

if you did, you could do some MAM items like smokeless powder, turbofuel etc

[frosty mirage]

They are just jealous

[soft marsh]

My MAM is done

[wanton cloud]

did u automate the items from there?

[soft marsh]

Nah I didn't automate any of those, just made what I needed for the MAM to get the unlocks

[wanton cloud]

well there's your idea for your next project

[soft marsh]

Computers & Super Computers are probably next. Looks like I tore down the build

[jagged nymph]

i cant tell if that guy was trolling

[wanton cloud]

automate sam fluctators, smokeless powder, turbofuel there's loads of things

[frosty mirage]

Im refusing to go into phase 4 willingly just because i feel like sidequesting, i might build an ammo factory just for the fun of it

[swift turret]

doesnt matter

[winged herald]

100%, was just very bad at it

[wanton cloud]

we dont know for sure

[jagged nymph]

probably, but hes pretty stupid cause why would you just say something to get urself banned

[wanton cloud]

that's what i like (and hate) the most about trolling

[soft marsh]

Is there a use for smokeless powder outside of ammunition?

[winged herald]

a 9 year old wouldnt type "plez" lol

[wanton cloud]

sink points, probably something else im missing let me check

[winged herald]

he was trying to sound 9

[frosty mirage]

No, but build an ammo factory. You need a purpose, not a reason right?

[wanton cloud]

then what year old would? i definitely was typing dumber stuff than that at 11

[winged herald]

i have an 8 year old and he can type full sentences. that guy was not 9

[swift turret]

you missed a period

[frosty mirage]

Not all kids can tho

[winged herald]

i didnt say i was good a grammer but thanks, just pointing out kids are pretty smart these days

[reef basin]

half of the internet cannot type full sentences, it's hardly a rule to judge by

[wanton cloud]

ohhh man i wish i could show you the monstrotities of sentences that i typed. i was using youtuber talk such as "frind" etc. maybe i still have some screenshots lying around

[winged herald]

they can most definitely play video game really well, why cant they also spell correctly

[soft marsh]

lol ammo factory would be like the very last thing I do. C&SC it is.

[jagged nymph]

i mean it did sound like he was trying to sound young overly so but also some kids are dumber than others.

[wanton cloud]

there, new thing to do

[frosty mirage]

Ammo factory is a thing of pleasure more than anything else

I play on passive but i wanna build one

[soft marsh]

I need to find a good spot for this computer factory. Probably end up somewhere near the coast since I need oil & water

[wanton cloud]

looks like i lost the screenshots, but let me tell ya if i came into this server typing the way i did back then yall would 100% think im no older than 10

[acoustic bear]

I think ammo is pretty easy to hand feed once you setup the other parts

just setup a single line fed by storage and fill it as needed to make ammo

[wanton cloud]

i did mine south of rocky desert, there's pure oil, and pure iron/copper nodes nearby

[frosty mirage]

I recommend blue crater, i setup my comp factory there with caterium alts, they are not that far away

[acoustic bear]

you can sloop it if you really want

[wanton cloud]

yo i JUST realized i could do that with my HMF factory

thanks man

[swift turret]

You can do that with almost anything except packagers :sad:

[wanton cloud]

who even is simon

[swift turret]

how dare they deny me my ionized fuel. Do they know how many powershards I wasted

[frosty mirage]

Well the only reason i wanna do it is to force myself into trains lol

And master the art of

[swift turret]

force yourself into trucks

[frosty mirage]

Training?

[swift turret]

way bettter

[wanton cloud]

i used trucks exactly ONCE (1) and never again

[frosty mirage]

I dont scratch my head trying to understand trucks 😭

[swift turret]

skill issue

[wanton cloud]

they're damn to clunky

[swift turret]

exactly
Road -> Trucks - Point A -> Point B

[swift turret]

then stop making them go off cliffs

[acoustic bear]

I've used belts almost 100% until drones

[wanton cloud]

they literally js tractors but more space occupied

[acoustic bear]

now I'm spreading out more with drones

[frosty mirage]

Thats wrong tho, trucks are superior

[swift turret]

drones are great but they cant carry everything in the drone port which makes only good for small stuff

[acoustic bear]

I setup a huge mega factory on the west coast with everything belted to a central point

[wanton cloud]

i have specialized roads and they still somehow hit the sidewalk

[frosty mirage]

What tier are drones?

[swift turret]

they sort themselves out

[acoustic bear]

7 or 8

[wanton cloud]

they do but i'd rather not damage my infrastructure

[frosty mirage]

Oh so once i finish phase 3 its time for drones

[swift turret]

trains on the otherhand cant, if they crash they need hand holding

[swift turret]

nothing was damaged. They work fine

[frosty mirage]

Trains will crush if u make them crush

[swift turret]

if your whole infrastructure is dependent on 1 second of a truck getting itself back into positon. you were doomed from the start

[wanton cloud]

i am talking about AESTHETICS. i DO NOT like watching my truck hit the railing and swerve all over the road on every turn

[swift turret]

I think its pretty funnny

watching them do backflips on each other

[wanton cloud]

you have issues rooted deeper than just trucks

[white dawn]

Honestly from what I've seen on the channel, vehicles tend to do a lot worse on Pioneer-built roads than just on a natural surface

[swift turret]

they crave the outdoors

[white dawn]

I use vehicles frequently, and always use the map's natural roads, and I basically never see those kinds of problems

[swift turret]

its a skill issue from the people

[wanton cloud]

that will not stop me from making my roads, do you want me to show you my entire road infrasturcture on phase 3? because im gonna do just that

[swift turret]

they hate trucks then sabotage them to do bad and complain

[white dawn]

Could have something to do with how the routes are being recorded, of course

[soft marsh]

welp get to do my least favorite thing and make a train network so I can move all these pieces around

[keen vault]

uh guys is 205 npp enough or do i need more? (i js need enough for a small lil factory)

[white dawn]

Sure, lots of folks like building roads. Just saying that anecdotally I think vehicles do worse on them

That could certainly be sampling error though

[acoustic bear]

I think I'd mostly just run the truckson the natural "roads"

[white dawn]

If 90% of vehicle-using players end up building roads then you'd expect 90% of reported problems to involve roads, etc. :)

[swift turret]

whatdarrenplays does trucks a lot of his playthroughs and some have issues but for the most part they work fine

[wanton cloud]

here, i sent my PROUDLY made road infrastructure in #screenshots

if it's not very readable, the long straight stretches with 90-deg turns are roads

the chat is kinda dead

[fluid sage]

HELLO DISCORD

[winged herald]

hello

[unkempt blade]

it's beautiful but it needs more colors and more factory carts

[solar roost]

Debating a new run, going with the no build cost cheat so I can embrace a full factory potential while still having to produce all the items needed for completing milestones

Either that or just using the map to find an actually good area to place my base

[unkempt blade]

There's not really a bad spot. It's just preference

[last bluff]

death zone

[unkempt blade]

he's already talking AGS settings so I'm not sure that's a dealbreaker 😆

[last bluff]

getting resources to any is still a pain

[solar roost]

Well realistically I just wanna find an area with at least relatively close to all main resource nodes

[unkempt blade]

that's all the starting spots

[solar roost]

Cuz my last playthrough I needed quick wire and had to build like a mile long stretch of conveyors to mine from the node 😭

[acoustic bear]

really the ending needs multiple "spots"

you'll have many factories even if you do a large factory

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I mean it's a logistics game. The game encourages you to expand by like T5~ max

[last bluff]

also, if you want the ultimate efficiency, it'd be a bummer if you didn't use ALL the resource nodes on the map

[native tapir]

Lol such a fraud. It's a game about factory carts and orbs

[unkempt blade]

don't forget screws, if you're not using screws you're not really playing the game

[native tapir]

Change your name to "Vocal supporter of factory carts (does nothing for the factory cart community)

"

[unkempt blade]

it says it's too long 🙁

[native tapir]

Lmao

Respect for trying

[last bluff]

factory golf tho

[unkempt blade]

aww no emojis 🙁

[native tapir]

Careful with that one lol. You will get some LOVELY messages

[last bluff]

I ❤️ Doug <= Factory Carts

oh

you can't even add an actual emoji without Discord converting it

[native tapir]

^and prepare your inbox for "dog" and "dough" hate mail in

[last bluff]

but try using an actual emoji

[native tapir]

3.....2....1....

[unkempt blade]

ok I downgraded my feelings about carts instead to appease you

[last bluff]

Douglas Douglas

[native tapir]

Somehow it reads like you love them even more than before.

And don't call me that. I'm not him. He's twice the man I will ever be

[last bluff]

become three men

and beat him up

[native tapir]

🤔

[keen vault]

guys how much nuclear power plants is too much?

[last bluff]

there's no such thing

[keen vault]

so like 300 is good?

[last bluff]

why stop there?

[keen vault]

good point

there is NO end to the power plants

pull out the converter, get all possible bauxite

set the setup up

[native tapir]

I honestly think your new name portrays a far stronger love for carts than any other you've had

It's like reverse psychology

[muted pine]

is the planner off or the wiki? nuclear power gets calculated differently. The wiki says 100 power plants should consume 20 fuel rods and 24000 water, but produce 250 waste. did they increase the waste production in some patch and the wiki hasnt caught up? in the wiki the 250 waste production per minute for 100 nuclear plants would only be correct if I had it to 250%, but then the aforementioned numbers for rods and water dont make sense.

I cant post the link here because it is too long and tiny url gets deleted.

[native tapir]

Are you using the wiki gg?

[unkempt blade]

I'll figure out a new one when inspiration strikes

[muted pine]

yes

people say fandom = bad, so I use the wiki.gg https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Nuclear_Power_Plant

i can send you the planner link via DM if you like to have a quick look.

[nocturne nebula]

I just spent about 3 hours creating a factory for Phase 2 ... a loooong time for only 10 items per min, lol

[muted pine]

there you go: to me it seems to be in conflict with the wiki.gg https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_PlutoniumFuelRod_C"%3A"5"}

I vaguely remember them talking about doing something to the nuclear plant balance wise

[tall lantern]

where does it say that? None of the tables say that to my eye

uranium fuel rod row
Clock speed Burn time (sec) Rods/min Waste/min Water/min
100% 300 0.2 10 240

so 100'd be 10x100 = 1000 uranium waste/min

[muted pine]

ooooh i think i am stupid

jep my bad i am stupid

missed an arrow, thanks for looking

[tall lantern]

and possibly looking at the wrong row lol, the only one that'd give you 250 waste for 100 reactors is the 250% clock plutonium

[tranquil zinc]

OMG. you dont have to go in the menu for a machine to paste setting. Just put your mouse cursor on to it and ctrl v. HOW AM I JUST KNOWING THIS NOW

[wary falcon]

whats a reasonabnle amount of assembly directory systems cuz im planning 3.75 and im realizing the numbers are a bit crazy

[acoustic bear]

even 1 and then slooping it is great

[wary falcon]

but thinking about that. if i make 1 then it will take like 8 hours for phase 4 yk?

[dense violet]

you'll take that long building other factories

[wary falcon]

big on my fault ig lol i always wait till i make every factory to build space parts 😭

[cunning glade]

Which uh wiki is the good one

There's one that's updated and one that's not

I don't remember which

[zenith pecan]

wiki.gg

[cunning glade]

Ty

[zenith pecan]

Avoid fandom.

[cunning glade]

Ye ty

Cuz planning phase 5 parts

[zenith pecan]

👍

[cunning glade]

And for that it's really fucked up

Trying too figure out if 20 supercomputers will be good tho I think that's too many

But I put the number there so I feel like I had a reason

[zenith pecan]

My old save only had 12 supercomputers, this time round I plan to scale that up.

[cunning glade]

See I think 10 could work but idk yet cuz I was planning this a few months ago

And then uhh I got factorio

So coming back too try and figure this out a tad

As computer and supercomputers are my next factory I need