satisfactory

[oak nymph]

Idk in general I don't know if I would have enough of 10/min I need to make ballistic warp drive

I have automate all projects part already

[white dawn]

On the end, only you can decide how much you want to make of something. :)

For SE parts I tend to decide how quickly I want the delivery to finish and then build out the factory to support that rate

[torn lynx]

ok, i have tried everyhting and my coal facotry still goes out the second i start it

ok i added a power shard to al lthe water pumps and coal generators

[tall lantern]

that probably won't help much

[fluid crow]

you may need to fill the pipes up first with bio power or something

[torn lynx]

i did that, they are maxed on water

i added one power shared to all generators and pumpos and that fixed it i think

also, powershards make machiens use more electriicity right?

[tall lantern]

power shards'll just make your coal gens burn through their inputs faster (for more power, but still)

and yeah, they'll just make your water extractors extract more water, for more power, but if water's your actual issue I'd just build more extractors

[torn lynx]

it didnt work until i put them in though

[tall lantern]

(though you only need 3 for a sane coal gen setup with mk1 pipes)

so it'll proooobably just come back round again

[torn lynx]

so its bound to shut down again?

[tall lantern]

probably

[fluid crow]

hard to say

[tall lantern]

either

• you weren't supplying enough water - if you clocked up both the extractors and the coal gens the same amount, then the ratio's still the same, too low
• you weren't supplying enough coal - well now your plants just burn even more coal so they definitely won't keep up

[torn lynx]

i psoted my power graph in architechture

the thing is i tried charging the pumops and not the coal gen and it didnt work until i charged to coal egns

[tall lantern]

(or option 3, it hadn't stabilised yet)

[nova ridge]

maximizing oil -> plastic is a weird cycle for sure. need to hunt down ryecycled rubber recipe

[tall lantern]

but yeah, not really enough info

usually best to just follow one of the standard coal power setups, if you're having trouble

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[fluid crow]

if it has enough coal and water and the logistics to deliver then it should keep running(If you don't overload it)

[torn lynx]

ok now i took out all the charges from thge coal egenrators ansd now its still going

[fluid crow]

make sure the power is not close to maxing then

[torn lynx]

ok i stil lneed ot udnerstand which lines are important

how does power work exactly? , i cant read this graph

[coral marsh]

Keep the consumption line below the production line

[torn lynx]

there is no production line

[coral marsh]

Yes there is, on the power poles theres 4 lines, 2 are consumption and production

Production/generation

[torn lynx]

i only see 3, the 4th is the divider form the numebnrs

look in design and archetecture chat, it isnt there

[tall lantern]

look at the numbers

it's clearly overlaying the top line

[torn lynx]

this is making my head spin

[coral marsh]

There are 4 lines in the power pole

[idle yarrow]

check in #streams-and-videos someone to help me with this bug

[tall lantern]

also, that ain't the best channel for all this, use #1038092680493801533

[fluid crow]

production- how much power you're making
capacity- how much power you could make
the other two are basically this only consumption

[torn lynx]

i dont get the last one

[fluid crow]

consumption-how much you're using
max consumption- how much it would use if every machine is running

[torn lynx]

wait, every machine is running

[fluid crow]

capacity is only relevant to bio

[torn lynx]

cause thebv reakers originall flipped when i tried to add powershards to create for reinforced plates

[fluid crow]

you used too much power with the shard it sounds like

[torn lynx]

oh ok ,that makes sense, but why did it cause everyhting to go haywire in getting the coal generator back up?

also im not raging, im jsut amazinghow how in depth this game goes

[fluid crow]

they can be wonky there is a bug if you hook up power to a system with blown generators it will blow everything even if there's enough power I think

[idle yarrow]

why are my blueprints not working pls help

[torn lynx]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH that maeks sense

[flat jasper]

can confirm

just did a turbo fuel gen factory and when i hooked it up to the main power grid it shut off because my main grid was off

[torn lynx]

ok, but there are 6 coal generators and 3 pumps, each pump is priducing 180M and each generator is using 68M so it should be fine

[fluid crow]

I was struggling with something like that back when I was on coal

[flat jasper]

i'd reccomend only using power shards for miners at the start

if you need more power/constructors build more because youre gonna need them later on in the game

[torn lynx]

\ i mean if its workign why fix it? i like my bar beign high cause i can make other factories without worrying about breaking it

[fluid crow]

keep in mind only 300/m will flow though a single mk1 pipe

[torn lynx]

i monitered it for a bit and the water isnt running out so im not too worried

[flat jasper]

works for 1 or 2 phases of space elevator then you're gonna have to rebuild everything

[flat jasper]

true that

[torn lynx]

i meanwhy nto jsut enjoy the moment im at i ntheg ame, when the time comes to rebuild i will

[flat jasper]

also use blueprints they can help a lot when rebuilding

[torn lynx]

do blueprints jsut save everyhtign in an area so you can rebuild it at will?

[flat jasper]

no,you get a 4x4x4 for mk1 i believe

[torn lynx]

ok ok ]

dang, riip my iron factory hahaha, actually im surte makign things compant is important for endgame

[coral marsh]

Mk1, 4x4x4
Mk2, 5x5x5
Mk3, 6x6x6

[flat jasper]

this ^

[coral marsh]

The mk3 is genuinely fkin massive

[flat jasper]

you unlock the mk1 at tier 4 in hub

[coral marsh]

A 6x6x6 area is so much to work with but allows for gargantuan proper builds

[junior arch]

Annoyingly if you make a blueprint in the Mk1, you can only edit it in the Mk1

Same with Mk2 & 3 of course

[flat jasper]

agreed its a gamesaver

[coral marsh]

For future reference, a particle accelerator fits in a mk2 designer and a nuclear reactor also fits in a mk2 designer

[fluid crow]

just place it in the designer

[coral marsh]

If you wanna add to them though, you can physically place the smaller design in a bigger designer

Ive done it a couple times, is fun

[junior arch]

Oh really? Didnt see that coming

[coral marsh]

Yea just choose it and align it yourself

Make the changes and you can save it in the higher tier designer

[junior arch]

This is a wonderful comparison example. Thanks

[coral marsh]

You're welcome

[stoic laurel]

to go vertical with a pipe blueprint, will i have to make a whole new blueprint?

[coral marsh]

For PC USERS, never forget to press "ctrl" when placing down multiple machines, this allows you to rapid click numerous machines in a row and they'll be even and parallel with each other

[junior arch]

Wait a particle accelerator and a nuke reactor fits in a mk2

[coral marsh]

Not together

[flat jasper]

also when building foundations to align with the world grid so you can connect factories in the future

[coral marsh]

Yes, this ☝️

[crude holly]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[flat jasper]

and if you want to build the same blueprint you can click f(to delete) then click r to switch to blueprint mode and you can use the mmb to copy the blueprint without searching for it in the blueprint menu

[coral marsh]

Yup

[flat jasper]

i found that out really late in the game and i hate myself for it

would've helped a lot when i was building the highway

[coral marsh]

Neat trick also on pc, click dismantle, select blueprint and click middle mouse button, it copies the blueprint and allows you to place it down

[flat jasper]

thats what i just said

[coral marsh]

Ah

My B lol

[flat jasper]

алл гоод

[coral marsh]

I didnt read it properly lol

[flat jasper]

all good

[coral marsh]

Dont speek rusky

[flat jasper]

accidentally switched my languages when i alt tabbed,and its serbian

[coral marsh]

Oh cool, Serbian is so much cooler (Nikola tesla was serbian)

[flat jasper]

also you say ruski not rusky

[coral marsh]

Anyway

Satisfactory talk

[junior arch]

Damn that means a mk3 really is big as hell

[coral marsh]

48x48x48m

[flat jasper]

fun fact im an electrical engineer LOL

[coral marsh]

Epic lol

[coral marsh]

Are you in love with a pigeon?

[flat jasper]

i do not believe so,but who knows,there's a chance for anything...

[coral marsh]

You can make some really cool particle accelerator blueprints in a mk2, i havent made any as theyre often hard to do

[hybrid nymph]

Mk2? Mortal Kombat 2?! Lol 😆

[coral marsh]

Lol

[flat jasper]

i love mk2 for my modular factories,you can slap on a ton of constructors/asemblers at once and just connect like 2 or 3 belts

[coral marsh]

2 manufacturers fit in a mk2 and I abuse that

[hybrid nymph]

What tier are you on?

[coral marsh]

Me?

I completed tier 8 a few days ago (again)

[stoic laurel]

to move multiple pipes up a wall using auto connect, im noticing that pipe line wall supports dont stack, but i can stack pipeline junctions. would that work to move pipes vertically up a wall?

[hybrid nymph]

I see

[flat jasper]

i mean its a 2x the efficiency so...

[hybrid nymph]

I was talking about @flat jasper

What tier are you on?

[flat jasper]

i have a few saves,furthest i got was tier 8

currently at 6

on a new save

[hybrid nymph]

Same here, I am on tier 8, I am on my 5th save, never got past tier 8

[flat jasper]

i get so pissed

[hybrid nymph]

I played the game at first in 2023 in early access

[flat jasper]

i get to tier 8 find out i can build something better then restart the whole game

because i already built so much i am too lazy to destroy and rebuild

[hybrid nymph]

I see

[flat jasper]

i played while i was still in school so im guessing thats like 2024/early 2025

[hybrid nymph]

I am still working on my factory and need someone to build me an aestheticly pleasing factory

[flat jasper]

i can show you my old save if you want to take inspiration

[hybrid nymph]

Sure

[flat jasper]

nothing is aesthetic in my new save

[hybrid nymph]

I would like some help with aesthetics

[flat jasper]

sure call me in dms ill stream it to you

[hybrid nymph]

I am in class right now lol 😆

[flat jasper]

ah!

[hybrid nymph]

I'm at school rn

[flat jasper]

i can send you the save aswell

[hybrid nymph]

Send some screenshots I'll take a look

[flat jasper]

all good i forgot not everyone is in the same timezone as me

its like 2:37 in the morning for me

[fickle locust]

Why have I run out of Fused Modular Frames

I was not expecting to come back and run into this as an issue

[torn lynx]

why do truck stops always take forever before you can actually use them?

[flat jasper]

usage>crafting

[flat jasper]

wdym?

[torn lynx]

EVERTIME I MAKE ONE PRESSING F TO LOAD OR UNLAOD WONT WORK

capslock, idk why it does that, its powered

[fickle locust]

I set this up literally 100 hours ago, I don't even remember what train is supposed to be bringing these in
What an annoying issue

[flat jasper]

is there a pause icon left under it after you press load or unload?

[torn lynx]

i havtn see nthat, im about to automate quirks so ill let you knwo if i see that

[flat jasper]

you have to record a path for trucks

[torn lynx]

and the infinite truck fuel is now working

[indigo dove]

I think it would be cool if we could build like big fans that launch us upward when we deploy parachutes over them and we could parachute around the map with a network of them.

[fickle locust]

Oooooh woof I've potentially screwed myself

[silent pagoda]

cool idea for a mod!

[fickle locust]

I changed a train station to 2 platforms+2 platforms
And now my 4-length car, when it docks, is taking from platform 1, platform 2, and platform 1 of the second station

[granite basalt]

I tried to make a computer factory with 3 normal copper node at south of dune

the nearby oil wells not even enough to supplied half of it

[fickle locust]

Use alloy ingots or pure recipes using the water well down there?

[short fiber]

With the newest patch is anyone else having trouble connecting belts to anything

[granite basalt]

no, the oil is not enough
and I haven't found the ruber fuel → plastic yet

[fickle locust]

Oh yeah you'll probably need that recipe then

[dense violet]

You set them up to run on auto

[torn lynx]

oh not what i emant, i eman they wont laod or unlaod when im triyng to make ap ath

[dense violet]

All you have to do is park then in front of the station as a wait time

2 stacks transferred per second in front

You don’t record actual loading unloading

[torn lynx]

can coal be turned into biofuel?

[coral marsh]

No

Oh wait, charcoal can be

Turns into wood which you can turn into biomass then solid biofuel

Which you can (if you want to) be turned into liquid then packaged biofuel

[hybrid nymph]

it's 6:48 PM for me,

[hybrid nymph]

I'll be out of class at 9:00 in about 2 hours

then I got some homework to do, I'll be online again tonight a bit later

[unkempt blade]

You need to put the factory first. You knew what you were signing up for

[hybrid nymph]

lol yeah true dat

ugh I still need to stream Diablo III ROS on twitch tonight ugh 😣

been so damn busy with work/school

[compact flicker]

And we back up to blade runners :3

[hybrid nymph]

blade runners are mazing

most busted thing in this game is somercloop duping of power slugs, I have 800 power shards

[pastel surge]

#screenshots message

[stoic spear]

so like why with the industial storage container the top output is at 480 but the bottom output is only at 270

[hybrid nymph]

I think I'm going to get 300 tickets legit then going to cheat for the rest with the easy tickets mod

[hybrid nymph]

decent starting power, is that using just coal?

[wary falcon]

anyone have that image of how to properly loop pipes back into themselves to prevent sloshing. i cant find it

[hybrid nymph]

also dumb question, but how do you link your screenshot to the main chat?

I am a dummy 😞

plz help

[winter rapids]

Why don’t they add passenger cars since the game is multiplayer now

[potent mason]

can any one explain how i cant join a friends game? my epic is linked to my steam he just got the game on steam and we cant share session id. in the past it was as easy as copy paste and boom but now no matter the settings it wont let me join him or let him join me

[torn lynx]

hey so, lets say hypothetically two trcusk hit erachother, what happens?

i may be askign cause two may be on a collision course right now

[white dawn]

They'll bounce off each other and could get stuck for a few seconds, but will attempt to get back on track. If they get stuck for too long, they'll just teleport to their next node after a bit

[torn lynx]

oh wow,...i shoudl take ntoes from this game for game design, when did the full release for this game come out?

[white dawn]

v1.0 was about a year and half ago, I think? September 2024?

[torn lynx]

where the hell have i been, this game is a lot of what i dreamed of in a game

[stone python]

not here, thats where

[torn lynx]

seriously, i have been palyign roblox tycoons for years and i only heard of this game recently

[white dawn]

When you get far enough away from vehicles, they don't actually simulate the full driving; they just kind of teleport to the next nodes as appropriate

[formal thicket]

Is there a way to make conveyor belts automatically use stackable poles instead of the normal ones?

[granite basalt]

then, still got stuck, face to face with other

[white dawn]

Alas, no (though it's possible there's a mod which does that)

[white dawn]

I have heard that dead-on collisions can sometimes lead to deadlocks; I admit that's something I've not tested myself

Though they're supposed to eventually teleport regardless

I generally try to make sure that I don't have possible collisions at more than 90° and my vehicles are generally quite happy with that

[torn lynx]

nobelisks are the gas pillars right

cause iofthey are, im about to unlock a node for a certain...grudge agaisnt them

[dull pine]

Nobelisk are explosives

You can destroy gas pillars with them

[dense violet]

Search my name image and loop

[wary falcon]

tyty

[wary falcon]

wait i assume you know what im t alking about but is this necessary if im feeding so the fluid falls into the blender (kind of ramps down into it) sorry i cant describe anything well

[pastel surge]

I put it in screen shots and then copied the message link

[hybrid nymph]

Okay thanks 👍🙏

[pastel surge]

A handful of coal that I had before I got oil, and then in progress of currently setting up 2 rows of generators

[dense violet]

I’d have to see what you’re doing

Even if you’re feeding from above you generally need a loop to maintain higher flows

[wary falcon]

alright ill loop it based on that answer, ty

[spiral haven]

Is there any way to dispose of liquids? My aluminum plant keeps getting backed up because it's making too much alumina solution and the only thing I can think of is set up packaged liquids just to sink it or keep manually flushing stuff

[stone python]

youd have to package it to sink it

or, you can make more scrap

[dense violet]

Re use it in the same system

[spiral haven]

I am

[dense violet]

Look at the pinged image

[glad hawk]

Oil power is very good guys

😁

A nice little buffer while I organize that tech, just one generator adds 250 MW

[wary falcon]

whats the best way to move liquids/gas across a very large distance

[glad hawk]

Package and train

[feral snow]

train, really

inmyhumbleexperience

[wary falcon]

does 1500-2000 meters justify train usage?

[sharp knoll]

im starting up a new save rn cuz i just automated everything and i could probably make it more efficient but i wanna start fresh

[hollow hemlock]

nah, a belt weave

[deep sapphire]

I finally got my coal generators to work 😭

[feral snow]

upgrading the flow later will be mucho easier with a train. it really depends on the volume more than the distance

[sharp knoll]

nice

[feral snow]

(and potential future volume)

[granite basalt]

great, now multiple it

[deep sapphire]

[glad hawk]

No

[wary falcon]

how does one even go about packaging for trains, like do i need to transport aluminum across the map to make canisters?

[glad hawk]

All you need is like 600 mw to get to oil

[glad hawk]

I mean if you didn’t already

It’s easier to turn fluids to solids to transport them

[wary falcon]

jeez this seems like such a pain to do

[glad hawk]

It’s not really

[granite basalt]

2 freight train

[glad hawk]

Easier than a fluid freight

[granite basalt]

one to bring empty canister back

[wary falcon]

aluminum ingots travel 3500 meters to package stuff to send 2200 meters away this sounds so painful 😭 i dont like trains

[granite basalt]

let ADA give him some motivate speak

[glad hawk]

How else are you gonna do it bruh

[wary falcon]

idk a very long pipe and many many pumps sounds so much easier

[glad hawk]

Takes up too much resources and is much slower than a train

And less flexible than a train

[granite basalt]

trust me, trust the train

you'll be addicted to it

[wary falcon]

u think that would take longer than a train?

[glad hawk]

Much longer

Trains are very fast man

Very easy to build and very quick movers

[wary falcon]

theres no way right? cuz to make the train you have to walk the distance you want it to go atleast once, to make the pipe you do that same thing, just with less steps to package and what not. +with the train i would need another train for aluminum ingots

[torn lynx]

alright, i got a gun i made stun ammo and there is a radioactive boar protecting my loot, il ltell you how it goes

[glad hawk]

pipes are slow + you don’t need multiple trains for anything man

you don’t realize the power of bidirectional trains

[wary falcon]

i def do...

the aluminum originates far from where the fluid needs to go

[glad hawk]

Make one train that intersects those points of interest

[wary falcon]

2 completely diff places

[glad hawk]

and then make it bidirectional

[wary falcon]

would output too little?

or no?

[glad hawk]

what are you talking about

[wary falcon]

the throughput of the trains fluid would be too slow with that no? just by my guess idk

[granite basalt]

no

[glad hawk]

Don’t use fluid freights

[wary falcon]

o... clearly i dont know anything about trains

[glad hawk]

And no it wouldn’t

[hollow hemlock]

eh fluid freight is fine, people complain way too much about it

[wary falcon]

whats wrong w/ it

[glad hawk]

Packaging -> place gas is needed -> drop off product

[hollow hemlock]

something something capacity something

[granite basalt]

you can double the the output, and if that's not enough for you quadruple it by adding another freight car

[glad hawk]

And then go backwards and pick up empty package

And then get more and/or drop off at packaging

It’s a simple loop man

except a line

[wary falcon]

i mean ig ill try it, big thing is putting off fixing my aluminum factory

[hybrid nymph]

I can help you fix it

I am almost out of class and then once I get home I can hop on and help you

[torn lynx]

hey weird lore question, may i ask why all the pioneers are woman? its not an issue i just wanted to know \

[hybrid nymph]

@wary falcon what needs fixing?

[wary falcon]

i am almost ready to go to bed for class tomorrow 😭 but lemme know when u get home and well see

[wary falcon]

something to do with waste water being recycled... its kinda hard to describe.

pretty much from my viewpoint.. it visually looks perfectly functional but when i turn it on waste water backlogs

i jus cant diagnose the issue

[hybrid nymph]

For my waste water I just had it feedback into the same pipe that the pumping pipes were coming from and just added it to the same water reservoir and turned off one of my water pumps

[drowsy kelp]

Packaging nitrogen gas, rocket fuel, or ionized fuel and using a solids car would make more sense because those get 4:1 compression ratio for nitrogen and 2:1 for the fuels but otherwise what’s actually bad about fluid freight

[hollow hemlock]

its smaller than the solid freight

[hybrid nymph]

try that @wary falcon see if that works

[wary falcon]

sure might take a bit

[hybrid nymph]

I can hop on when I get home and help you

[wary falcon]

alr

[hybrid nymph]

I will be home in about 20 minutes

they don't call me "the professor" for nothing lol

I practically have my PhD in this game, other than train signals

[wary falcon]

lol

[hybrid nymph]

okay heading out now

had to talk to my professor for a few mins sorry

[wary falcon]

nah your good

[undone island]

Not sure where to mention this as there's no support contacts so I figured I'd check the Discord.
It seems that the Q&A is currently being used as advertising for drugs in Dubai? Anywhere I can go to report this to someone that manages the site in some form?

[narrow wraith]

I'd try pinging the @.moderator role

[undone island]

I think that role is for Discord issues, not Q&A issues
I'm not looking to bother the Discord, I'm just wondering if I'm not seeing a support option that I can use to report this

Somehow, I don't think CSS wants their site to be used for hard drug deals

[narrow wraith]

@.Jason the CM shares the @.moderator role, so I think he's an appropriate escalation path

[undone island]

Are they someone that manages/has access to manage the Q&A site? Could I just contact them directly?

[narrow wraith]

I don't know how Coffee Stain organizes their org, so I can't say for sure what his obligations are, but it looks like you may be able to DM him directly

[fluid crow]

could always put in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1034847073641705552 and call it a day 🤷

[narrow wraith]

I think that's reasonable

It says it will open a DM with the @.moderator/s, so looks like that'll be a good path

[wary falcon]

i did that and waited a bit, seems as though its still hapenning

[fluid crow]

damn man designing a nuclear plant is quite the job

many options to consider

[short fiber]

#screenshots message
I can't wait to make 60 reinforced plates per minute

Tbf I'm only gonna make 40 per minute and use half of that to make crystal thingy

[wary falcon]

what stage of the game r u in

[hybrid nymph]

I am in tier 8

Just got home

Booting up my PC right now

[wary falcon]

😄

[hybrid nymph]

Okay I'm in

[wary falcon]

should i send a save or smth?

[hybrid nymph]

Okay let me join you

[wary falcon]

how do i even do that

[hybrid nymph]

Do you play on steam?

[wary falcon]

yes

[hybrid nymph]

What's your stream name?

[wary falcon]

Rick Sanchez

smiley avatar

[hybrid nymph]

Just send my your fri and code

[wary falcon]

i have like 2 mods but lets see, im pretty sure they are client sided

[hybrid nymph]

Dm me

[wary falcon]

alr

[formal thicket]

IIrc overclocking machines has a penalty to the amount of power you are consuming relative to the amount you are creating, I.E. 2 smelters consume less power than 1 smelter on 200%, however is there any penalty for overclocking generators?

[edgy nacelle]

It's always a good idea if your belts can handle it

[formal thicket]

Where can I find calculators for fuel? The one I was using doesn't seem to support fuel for some reason

[wary falcon]

SCIM?

[winter rapids]

There’s calculator in game?

[wary falcon]

i think he means like production planner

[winter rapids]

We have a production planner in game

[wary falcon]

wait what

where

[winter rapids]

Didn’t you say that

I thought you were talking about in game

[wary falcon]

oh no

i meant like the SCIM website

[winter rapids]

Oh

There’s a website for planning builds in this game?

[wary falcon]

yeah but you most just say "i want # of certain item" and it tells you everything u need

[winter rapids]

Oh

[fluid crow]

you can use the quick search in game as a basic calculator

[wary falcon]

yeah

[winter rapids]

What quick search?

Is that a pc only thing

[wary falcon]

press n

[winter rapids]

I’m on Xbox

[wary falcon]

not sure then

[winter rapids]

I don’t have an “N”

[fluid crow]

I looked it up, I guess that's not on console yet maybe

been making this nuke plant in modeler, it seems pretty bad ass

[wary falcon]

modeler?

[fluid crow]

it's a planer that's free on steam or looked like it had a direct download also

[wary falcon]

oh interesting

[frosty nimbus]

Just got done with another 4 hour building session.

will post update in #screenshots

[swift turret]

anyone know how to organize save files?

They're all just in 1 folder and a mess

[hybrid nymph]

wow it's been super quiet here

no messages in 2 hours

[tall lantern]

americans asleep, europeans waking up or going to work

[hybrid nymph]

my fiance just went to bed

I might hop on the game

[vernal musk]

What is the future of satisfactory looking like?

[hybrid nymph]

well I've been watching a few videos by Jace

He said that 1.2 has a few things planned

[tall lantern]

at least one more update coming, but it's already a complete game so I wouldn't judge it from potential future stuff

[hybrid nymph]

Trucks will be able to carry fluids now, MK3 pipes with up to 1800^3m flow rate, and a plow attachement for the tractors that will clear vegitation you drive over, that's about it

that's all jace said

[tall lantern]

lol false

[hybrid nymph]

what's false?

the plow?

I'm working with stuff I heard and read on Reddit

in r/satisfactory

[tall lantern]

that's unfortunate

so far all we've seen is what looks like a fluid truck

[hybrid nymph]

that's it?

[tall lantern]

it's not like Jace works at CSS, so he's no source of authority here

[hybrid nymph]

a fluid truck?

[tall lantern]

so all that's likely just copium

[hybrid nymph]

honestly, what would a fluid truck even accomplish? Trains already transport fuilds, in fact I haven't even built a single truck or tractor on this playthrough yet and I'm on tier 8

[tall lantern]

some people think it might mean a broader fluid overhaul

when CSS actually start 1.2 teaser season, I'm sure we'll get a lot more info

[hybrid nymph]

But trucks are so damn slow...

[tall lantern]

they're also a lot earlier than trains

[hybrid nymph]

they only go like 50km/hr

and they can't even go up inclines steeper than 2m

[toxic lichen]

make road

[hybrid nymph]

you can make roads?

do you buy them from the AWESOME shop?

[toxic lichen]

asphalt foundations look pretty
road like

[hybrid nymph]

oh huh

[toxic lichen]

by the markings from the shop as well
make actual roads

yk like the painted road sigh stuff

[hybrid nymph]

I gotta be honest, my base looks like crap because I am terrible at aestetics

[toxic lichen]

same twin

[hybrid nymph]

I need someone to help me make my base look good

[tall lantern]

#design-and-architecture or #1201555265942724758 depending on how literal that is

[hybrid nymph]

Alright

[gloomy tusk]

i have the best strat

[real shale]

Fluid trucks my beloved

[reef basin]

You are the best candidate for it

[hybrid nymph]

I always just build the most basic builds because I suck at building

[toxic lichen]

thneeds?

[hybrid nymph]

for me, as long as it works, it's good in my book

[gloomy tusk]

is that the person that spams "-e -e"

[reef basin]

You learn by doing 🤷

[toxic lichen]

no e'-e'

[real shale]

(insert types of satisfactory player meme here)

[gloomy tusk]

my apologies

[toxic lichen]

first one was better imo

[gloomy tusk]

i had to explain satisfactory to one of my lesser intelligent friends and he couldnt understand how it was fun 😔

autocorrect of doom

[toxic lichen]

think you need a mild touch of the tism
to enjoy it lowk

[real shale]

e'-e'

[toxic lichen]

(dont ban me like the warframe server did for saying a similar thing)

[gloomy tusk]

i have 0 touch of the tism

[toxic lichen]

everyone has a touch e'-e'
tis a spectrum after all

you could js be on the lower end

[gloomy tusk]

nope i have so little it reversers and i break

thats how it works

trust

[hybrid nymph]

My favorite movie is Treasure Planet

[toxic lichen]

i trust

[gloomy tusk]

comrade Revan i have a question

[hybrid nymph]

yes?

[toxic lichen]

Pacific Rim is the only correct answer ;-;

[hybrid nymph]

Australian lorax? You mean DANNY DEVITO?!

[gloomy tusk]

do you think it is a good idea to make every resource from the desert go into one big factory

[hybrid nymph]

i think so yes

[gloomy tusk]

-# if you say no its too late

[hybrid nymph]

I make use of every coal and oil node I find

[gloomy tusk]

oh good

[gloomy tusk]

im talking EVERY resource

[hybrid nymph]

Every coal and oil node I seup a turbofuel factory

[toxic lichen]

how much coal does one need ;-;

[hybrid nymph]

yes

[gloomy tusk]

no

you cant have enough coal

[hybrid nymph]

the answer is always YES

[dense violet]

for?

[toxic lichen]

yes

[hybrid nymph]

what do you mean what for?

You can NEVER have enuff coal!

[dense violet]

the answer could be very little - you don't need that much steel, and you can replace coal with oil for that too

you could make a tier 1 to 9 factory with zero coal easily

[hybrid nymph]

I currently have 120 coal generators

[toxic lichen]

coal is erm
tier 4 or something tho

[hybrid nymph]

tier 3

[gloomy tusk]

why 😭

coal power is so inefficent

[fluid crow]

tier 5

[gloomy tusk]

tier 3

[hybrid nymph]

if you're not making use of every coal source, you are quite literally leaving FREE ENERGY on the table

[toxic lichen]

we all seem a bit confused here

[real shale]

Tier 9

[gloomy tusk]

that sounds right

i thought it was around tier 38 though?

[real shale]

No. There is no free energy.

[dense violet]

how so? there's os much of it

[toxic lichen]

1 pure node
With MK3 miner max overclock can support like

80? coal gens?

[gloomy tusk]

but like you get no power

[hybrid nymph]

why is it inefficient?

[dense violet]

you get heaps for the effort. Just a pipe and belt

[gloomy tusk]

for like 250mw of power

[real shale]

That doesn't make it inefficient though, if anything that makes it very efficient

[fluid crow]

ong

[dense violet]

and? it's very easy

[hybrid nymph]

I understand overclocking them is a waste of slugs, but each one generates 75MW, and if you setup like 60 of them, which they're SUPER CHEAP TO MAKE, you can do a lot of power

[gloomy tusk]

60x75 =4,500

2 nuclear powered things beat that

[coarse heart]

Agreed

[hybrid nymph]

I'm currently generating 9675 MW from my 120 coal generators

[coarse heart]

I think the rocket fuel in a fuel generator is the most efficient

[hybrid nymph]

114 of them are base speed, 6 of them are overclocked

[real shale]

Admittedly I done away with my coal power plant because I wanted to plant a fused modular frame factory there instead, but that's primarily because I have 120ish GW in fuel

[hybrid nymph]

I also have 12 fully overclocked fuel generators generating 7500MW

[toxic lichen]

the fuel gens

does the amount of power generated depend on fuel type
or is that only a fuel efficiency thing like the biofuels

[real shale]

It's only a fuel efficiency thing

[hybrid nymph]

no, fuel type just increses efficiency

[toxic lichen]

ahh

[hybrid nymph]

whether you use standard gasoline or turbofuel you will make the same amount of power, one just alsts a lot longer than the other and takes much less to operate

[real shale]

Honestly never bothered with turbo fuel for my fuel power plant, I simply placed a couple hundred fuel generators in the blue crater and called it a day

[toxic lichen]

hm does 1 fuel gen make?

[real shale]

250 MW

[hybrid nymph]

625 MW fully overclocked

[toxic lichen]

ahhhhh
very cash money

[hybrid nymph]

250 base

each fully overclocked fuel generator uses 50^3m of gasoline or 18.75^3m of turbofuel

turbofuel is super cheap to make

[toxic lichen]

so
is it

gas - rocket - turbo?

[hybrid nymph]

if you have a pure oil source you can only run 4 fully overclocked fuel generators, if you make turbofuel, you can make 25 of them

from a single pure oil node

[toxic lichen]

jesus
and the blue crater has a lot of oil to give

[hybrid nymph]

correct yes

blue crater? You mean the blue lake with oil next to it?

not the beach?

[toxic lichen]

its got like
5 oil nodes
at least 2 are pure

[real shale]

There's 2550 oil in blue crater

[toxic lichen]

not beach yes

[hybrid nymph]

oh yeah that place yes

[real shale]

Enough for like 75 GW of pure fuel if you use HOR and Diluted fuel

[toxic lichen]

hor?

[real shale]

Heavy Oil Residue

[toxic lichen]

ah

[real shale]

Now that in thinking about it, I could expand my blue crater power plant to have a gas filter factory too

[hybrid nymph]

liquid biofuel is the best fuel for jetpacks

trucks are inefficient and worthless

[toxic lichen]

why liquid?

and why not
the other fuels

[hybrid nymph]

because liquid biofuel has the highest burn time of any fuel type

[toxic lichen]

ah

[real shale]

Honestly I've had some good fun with trucks, they are good for distribution

[hybrid nymph]

so says the wiki

[gloomy tusk]

#1468901992234750035

Please helps

[toxic lichen]

no >:(

[real shale]

e'-e'

[swift turret]

Trucks are useful if you setup infrastructure

[hybrid nymph]

I have used them before on the previous save, yes, to deliever coal, until i realized that trains are objectivly better in every way

[toxic lichen]

may i speak on this ;-;

[hybrid nymph]

of course

[toxic lichen]

conveyor spaghetti all over the map is the only correct answer

ty for coming to my TED Talk

[floral trellis]

im working on making rocket fuel from the 2550 oil there, diluted and everything of course. my planner tells me this will be ~900 generators and about 550k MW

[frosty nimbus]

Ran the calculations. Im gonna be producing 26,300 iron ingots per minute out of the pyramid

[real shale]

oh wow, deleting one train line has caused 7 trains to stop working

[surreal hatch]

tracks carrying power to trains and stations.

[real shale]

oh no its not that, its just a backlog of x cant get to y so z cant move

and then a chain reaction occured lol

[swift turret]

Yeah but you dont get trains until oil so unless youre rushing you won't get them for a minute

[summer coral]

hm, if i pull from the oil well northwest of the crater i could get an even 3k oil to turn into turbo fuel

[hybrid nymph]

I got to oil in about 45 hours

I'm at 120 hours on this save

[swift turret]

I got truck infrastructure in 10

[hybrid nymph]

And I just got to tier 8

[swift turret]

So trucks are better

[hybrid nymph]

I hate to break it to you, but they're not. Sure they are early game, But once you get trains, trucks become completely obsolete

Trains are the fastest land vehicle in the game able to easily exceed 150 kmh

You can put a lot of cars on them, And they transport 36 stacks per car, And they can even do fluids

And trains don't require fuel

What tier are you on?

How many playthroughs have you done?

For early game transportation The explorer is actually the best. But for all other transportation trains are the best

[summer coral]

think i might need to just rush tier 9 and logistics 6 for this project cause i need to transport 5.3k compacted coal to make all this turbo fuel

[real shale]

I mean, putting a lot of cars on them is also space inefficient because you end up having to put large train stations everywhere to compensate and with 1.2 we know we are getting fluid trucks, although trucks could already do fluids through packaging. Trucks are honestly kind of great when you don't want to spend all the time making a new train line for something that'll only require a vehicle stations work of material.

They are situational, just like any other mode of logistical transportation in this game

[limpid cairn]

Use multiple belts

Or injection manifold

[south sinew]

Blade runners + parachute is better than explorer IMO

[strong fiber]

I never even unlock parachute before

[south sinew]

it's pretty trivial to unlock if you can just find some mycelium which is not always easy especially for first-time players, but parachute is pretty strong really

[strong fiber]

I usually dont even go down that tree until i need gas filters

And iodine filters

[south sinew]

gas filters are pointless

[strong fiber]

To make iodine filters?

[south sinew]

oh, you mean just as an ingredient

yeah, they're good for that only

[strong fiber]

Yes because they take fabric

[south sinew]

but the parachute is quite a good mobility improvement early on until you have Jetpack and even then, Parachute beats out Jetpack under some circumstances

[surreal rose]

i have crazy idea

many caves that will be like underground world and entrance to it will be those huge holes in the ground

[surreal rose]

how do i make signals on train station?

there's a problem that at the end on the station signal has no exit signal which means train wont dock

[drowsy kelp]

They should just place at the ends of the station (as in the actual station platform and any freight platforms)

[hybrid nymph]

I use gas filters all the time. They're super useful

[drowsy kelp]

I just hide from all the death in my explorer

I have gas filters but i never use them

[void cliff]

How ignorant, lol. Do you ever use gas nobelisks? They are so powerful.

[hybrid nymph]

Gas is the stupidest thing in the game

It kills you so quickly

[drowsy kelp]

I mean it is poison gas

A lung-full of some gasses irl can knock you out much faster

[hybrid nymph]

True that

Still it's a really dumb way to die

[void cliff]

I always assumed the pioneer already had some kind of gas filter on their existing mask (or why wear it?)

[hybrid nymph]

That and dying via cliff hog

[drowsy kelp]

I’d say your life support just turning off because you walked out of the area owned by your parent company is worse

Cliff hogs suck

[void cliff]

Gas nobelisk + stun rebar is so good

[surreal rose]

how to place signals

do i need to like path-block-path-block or spam with blocks?

[void cliff]

Push Q, put them on the rails

[drowsy kelp]

Path signals are pretty much only for the entrance to intersections

[surreal rose]

so block spam?

[drowsy kelp]

Don’t spam them too much

[south sinew]

A lot easier to just blow up whatever's producing the poison gas with a nobelisk

[hybrid nymph]

Nobelisks are super useful

[void cliff]

It’s more effort to blow them up than to just carry filters 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid nymph]

Cluster nobelisk and nuke nobelisk super powerful

[south sinew]

blowing them up is a one-time cost which permanently clears the gas, whereas you have to restock filters repeatedly, and filters serve no other benefit when you also need nobelisks to clear obstacles and/or for combat

so nobelisks just give greater benefit for a lower cost

[surreal rose]

so how do i place them?

[void cliff]

“Restocking filters” is as simple as you make it. You should automate filters.

[south sinew]

if you actually could automate filters in the early game, that still wouldn't be enough to make them competitive, but it would be a start

having to wait an entire extra phase for resin fabric is just an extra nail in the coffin

[dull pine]

Who doesn't like explosions

[drowsy kelp]

The big ones are fun

[void cliff]

Nobelisks take too long to reload and it makes them annoying. Gas clouds kill 3/4 enemies in the game as well. It’s an advantage to leave the gas pillars, generally, after unlocking gas masks

[dull pine]

Especially daisy chained

If you're in a vehicle the gas doesn't effect ypu

[south sinew]

shooting enemies works just fine and you need to be ready to shoot them anyway because you will often be fighting not near a convenient gas cloud

[dull pine]

Run em down with rage

[south sinew]

so the gas doesn't really benefit you much for the added effort here

[void cliff]

Go kill a rad boar with a rebar gun, parachute, and no gas nobelisks/bombs 🙂

[south sinew]

I have done that and it wasn't too difficult, it's mostly just about finding or building the right terrain

[dull pine]

Takes like 10 shots

[night sail]

Lol I just recently finished my first coal power plant and its only giving me 600 mw which is not enough so I need to build more but there are no more coal nodes nearby now I need to look for more nodes and build in another location

[dull pine]

Someone make a mod that adds a cow catcher to vehicles

And the general Lee horn so I can manically laugh as I run them down

[placid stirrup]

Just like my college days

[placid stirrup]

What miner are you using on the coal node?

[surreal rose]

can someone join in my world and help with signals?

[night sail]

Mark 1 as it is my first coal plant

[surreal rose]

it shows that it's working but it doesn't

[night sail]

I haven't unlocked mark 2 yet

[placid stirrup]

Ahh so you're aware of the upgraded miner. Could be part of the solution...

[night sail]

Yes but what tier does mark 2 unlock at

[placid stirrup]

!wikisearch Mk2 miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Mk2+miner

[placid stirrup]

Tier 4

[lost rapids]

Good morning chat :)

[surreal rose]

good morning

[weary condor]

Coal lake 👀

[night sail]

Where is that exactly

[weary condor]

Uhhh

Northish

And then sorta like over there ig?

[surreal rose]

how to make intersection?

[reef basin]

build rail, build another rail, connect

[surreal rose]

not like this

i mean signals

[reef basin]

depends on what do you want from it

[surreal rose]

#screenshots message

i need 1 train to stop until another train passes

[reef basin]

next time, #1038092680493801533 is the place to put the images and ask 🙂

[surreal rose]

mb

[reef basin]

signals are one-way, so train cannot pass the signal backwards

(unless there's another signal at the same place, however with that you can get kissing trains, so not recommended)

[surreal rose]

i got kissing trains

thats the problem but without double signals my signals wont work at all

[reef basin]

two-way rail shouldn't have any signals

(unless there's only one train ever going on that section)

[surreal rose]

but trains gonna bump into each other and derail

[reef basin]

no?

[surreal rose]

it already happened before

[reef basin]

trains will never crash if there's signals

[surreal rose]

.

[reef basin]

yeah, never put signals on two-way sections

[surreal rose]

wdym two way sections?

[reef basin]

a rail where trains can go both ways

[surreal rose]

just bi directional?

[reef basin]

yeah

[surreal rose]

they crashed

next step?

[reef basin]

how did they crash? do you not have any signals anywhere?

[surreal rose]

it was long time ago but i didn't have signals there

[reef basin]

you need signals if you don't want train to crash tho

just not on bidi sections

because signals there are pointless

[prime stratus]

when do i unlock stuff like stairs and that

[reef basin]

awesome shop, probably

[quasi warren]

Yea-

[steel swift]

How can I get rid of 362 heavy oil per minute without using plastic?

[reef basin]

open codex and see what it can be used for

[steel swift]

Oh my bad i misread, I thought every recipe used plastic but im just dumb my bad

[leaden turret]

fuel

[steel swift]

Yup

[reef basin]

multiple recipes that don't use plastic are out there

[steel swift]

Yeah but they create extra bi products

[reef basin]

(it's called "byproduct", not "bi product')

and why is it a problem?

[steel swift]

I made a whole factory just to create 9 supercomputers per minute and I do not wish to have some extra product

[reef basin]

there's awesome sink

[quick idol]

if i have two drone ports with one drone each, that are connected to eachother, 1 does have enough fuel per min to fuel two drones, and i jumpstart the second port with lets say 200 fuel(what is way more then needed for the one way) does the drone of the second port also refuel at the port with the fuel always connected to it or does it just refuel at homeport?

[steel swift]

True true

[steel swift]

(What if its bi tho:( can't it be bi)

[reef basin]

"bi product" is a product that is bi, but doesn't necessarily have to be "byproduct" 🙂

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

@surreal rose

Pass signals are the general use signal

Block signals only at the entrance to a intersection then a pass signal on the exit. Multiple trains going both directions on a single train line often causes issues. Also (as far as i know) signals must be on the same side of the track facing the same direction to see eachother

Most ppl build a two track single direction system to avoid headaches

[steel swift]

Hmmm bisexual product

[leaden turret]

satisfactory is a bisexual product

[unkempt blade]

I only use block signals

[steel swift]

Yessir

[wanton cloud]

I have succesfully made my road blueprints

very proud of them yall should check them out in #screenshots

[reef basin]

they look nice but personally I wouldn't bother with roads for vehicles 😄

[ornate saffron]

he like taking the dirt path

real talk though, The games "natural" roads are a great way to get around for vehicals

[wanton cloud]

But ficsit did not send us to preserve the "nature" did they? Roads make for the most efficient routes, and can go just straight!

[reef basin]

it's not about preserving nature, it's about being efficient (with your time)
making use of natural road is 100x faster than building roads and has comparable results 🤷

[wanton cloud]

darn that's a fair argument

if anything they could be paired with train blueprints

[unkempt blade]

First those look great. Second, I would try driving on a test length of the ramp BP before you use too many of these. Some vehicles are kind of hard to drive over any sort of lip in the road and I'd have some concerns about how well they might handle the ramp => flat => ramp => flat of it all

[quick idol]

but the natural roads require precise driving and neither the ai not i can do that xd

[ornate saffron]

the games natural roads are great for trains too as the have nice sloops for elevation changes. I often plan my train routes along them

[ornate saffron]

i cant drive in this game at all lol. I get a friend to record my routes lkol

[quick idol]

lmao

[wanton cloud]

i mean i did make a road that had these ramps and the tractor seems to be doing fine.
That was before i perfected them mind you

[unkempt blade]

I paired mine with trains and hypertubes (and left some space under the road for short run conveyors and pipes) #screenshots message

[quick idol]

thats a good idea

[unkempt blade]

Awesome, just wanted to make sure you didn't get any bad surprises 😄

[wanton cloud]

that road is really similiar to the ones in screenshots just, worse.

especially on the matter of streetlights. old versions have 3x the new ones

[unkempt blade]

The route recorder can be a little obnoxious but what helped me most was realizing I could take my time/go slow and remove pause nodes after the recording was complete

it's just recording nodes/vectors otherwise and not really speed once you tell a vehicle to run the route

[ornate saffron]

ya absolutly, but i drive off cliffs and im jittery. Im just a bad driver. I want to go fast like quake 3 arena at all time and i am not patient enough lol

[unkempt blade]

yeah it might be hard to to delete-nodes your way out of a cliff jump 🤣

[sharp burrow]

Insert 'C'mon, do something' meme....... Still no 1.2 update teasers

[unkempt blade]

just focus on how great it'll feel to move liquids in trucks once they release it

[sharp burrow]

I don't think I'll ever use that..

[unkempt blade]

what's the rush for 1.2 then?

[wanton cloud]

I just think they should add powerline connecting to 1.2

would make roads much easier

[sharp burrow]

Well, it's been a huge chunk of time, I expect other things besides that. Lol.

1.1 was in June

[wanton cloud]

powerlines the main thing for me fr

[ornate saffron]

the game is in full release with little in the way of game breaking issues. Any continued free support is a bonus.

[wanton cloud]

fr

imagine they go the terraria route with like 5 final updates

[ornate saffron]

its possible Deep rock Galactic still gets balling upodates lol

[wanton cloud]

obviously not that easy with a game like this but still

[sharp burrow]

They would be silly to discontinue support, though. It's one of the most popular games in the industry.

But I agree, anything else is a bonus.

[unkempt blade]

they'd need to either keep selling copies (which is why the console release was actually a positive) and/or add some sort of MTX to like deep rock has

[wanton cloud]

MTX?

[sharp burrow]

Or just an expansion/dlc

[unkempt blade]

microtransactions

[sharp burrow]

They'll never go down the MTX route.

[wanton cloud]

hmm, i'd lowkey undestand if they made some special cosmetics

[unkempt blade]

deep rock sells optional skins with each new season which is the best possible option

functionality in mtx would be much worse

[wanton cloud]

wait, i know that both drg and satis are published by coffee stain but are they behind the same studio?

[unkempt blade]

same publisher but not the same development studio I believe

[ornate saffron]

i would pay for a phat old school expansion. Like broadwar or the neverwinter knights expansions. Essentailly a full game added onto the existing game. id pay full price for that

[wanton cloud]

probably not

[wanton cloud]

yeah i thought it would be like that

[unkempt blade]

there's a youtube video somewhere where the community managers explained all the coffe stain stuff

[ornate saffron]

there is a backend video too where they talk about all the coding wizardry which is cool

[wanton cloud]

do they also explain fluid physics too

that will probably never get an update again

considering all the things i've heard about it

[ornate saffron]

coffee stain not satisfactory specificly

[wanton cloud]

ah my bad

honestly, other than some more QoL updates i genuinely don't know what else could they add to satisfactory

very polished and finished game

but... that's probably what they said about terraira, and look where we are now

[ornate saffron]

some mod inspired features.... easy curves, bi directional zooping

[wanton cloud]

the two latter options are QoL aren't they?

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> i am hoping there is a Video tomorrow?

[void cliff]

New maps would sell pretty well, but idk if the time investment is worth it

[wanton cloud]

i've thought of that at first as a DLC but, there's mods for that...

...probably

[leaden turret]

Satisfactory News - interview with Emmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFzTO4fpWc
4:02 Why does fluid train hold so little?
6:24 Is the fluid truck related to the fluid train?
7:03 Why didn't we have fluid trucks earlier?

[unkempt blade]

I remember seeing uhh... very boring... mod maps to do stuff like "the floor is lava" games at some point but I imagine something equivalent to the retail map would be quite a task for a hobbyist

[leaden turret]

would rather have Satwosfactory ship with official mod support and map editing tools from the start than try to shoe-horn the features into Sat[roman numeral for 1]sfactory

[wanton cloud]

it would be a task for the studio too cause the whole map is entirely handcrafted (and pretty well, too)
so imagine having to redo all that over again

[ornate saffron]

likely. if its the same price as the base game it would be worth it i think. Id pay $50 for a new hand crafted balanced map fromn the studio.

[unkempt blade]

I'd even settle for just a "shuffle where nodes are placed" mode

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> Can you please ask Hannah which of these she'd choose?

1. Adding a snow biome to the current map
2. Developing and releasing an entirely new map
3. Eating Surströmming live on stream

[leaden turret]

pretty sure that's coming in 1.2

[wanton cloud]

real shit?

[unkempt blade]

that would hype me up nearly as much as liquid trucks already have

[leaden turret]

someone pointed out one of the videos from last year featured node changing resource types

[wanton cloud]

honestly that'd be goated but only as an optional thing cause it would make planning harder

[void cliff]

harder = good

[unkempt blade]

A new map would 100% be more exciting but just needing to look around for my resources next playthrough instead of already knowing where it all is would help it be fresher

[manic pivot]

U have to make a whole new save to try that out tho

[leaden turret]

not really? you just build facilities where you want to and change how the resources get there

[wanton cloud]

hmmmm

[sinful goblet]

IS it possible to remove the tree falling gameplay effect?

[wanton cloud]

obviously it would be balanced right?
I'd hate to have all my resources near the starting area be uranium and bauxite nodes

[manic pivot]

@unkempt blade

[ornate saffron]

Random nodes intruduce the possibility of spawning next to a uranium node and no nice starts. you may have iron amd limestone far apart

[unkempt blade]

ehh I'm doubtful that sort of change would brick a save but who knows

[tall lantern]

true chaos mode: the nodes change randomly mid-run

you thought you had an iron factory? think again, uranium

[wanton cloud]

fahhh that would be fun asf

[leaden turret]

depends on if it's random or procedurally random (i.e. [x] node of [y] purity must be [z] distance from [a, b, c])

[leaden turret]

that would be where procedurally random comes into play; not changing the nodes in spawn points.

[leaden turret]

also I believe the context of random nodes is "shuffling the resources on a point", not "randomy dropping new/different points"

[wanton cloud]

it'd be good if they excluded uranium as a possibility from the starting areas

[unkempt blade]

that seems like the fastest way to add some randomness without making random worlds occasionally "unplayable". Keep quantity/purity the same or within a bounded range + shuffle them around at existing locations

[ornate saffron]

tbh random in any fashion is not of interest to me in this game. i like the handcrafted map and i doubt id use a node shuffling feature

[leaden turret]

rocky desert mountain peak has a [rolls dice] impure limestone node

[half atlas]

Ok but hear me out

What if you had cancer and the uranium helped you or something

Radiation do be there tho

[wanton cloud]

what does cancer even have to do with the pioneer in the game😭

[manic pivot]

I don't mean brick a save but imagine a node under your factory and the miners you already placed no longer work because well, there's nothing under it

[half atlas]

The math is cancer

[unkempt blade]

oh with what you responded to I thought you were talking about liquid trucks 😆

[wanton cloud]

does it also induce cancer?

[unkempt blade]

maybe you should just find a new game if you can't handle the math

[wanton cloud]

it would just bring people like camman18 spewing shi like "what's the rarest xy in satisfactory?"

(spoilers it's all gonna be miners in obscure spots)

[ornate saffron]

Someone yesterday wanted tree cutting drones in game.

Saw this last night

#off-topic-media message

[wanton cloud]

oh yeah like a final tech that automates biomass collection

they should add that in like tier 6 when 1.2 drops

[half atlas]

The math ain't mathing

[wanton cloud]

genuinely

[half atlas]

How is 90 + 90 does not equal 180

In what otherworldly sense

[ornate saffron]

man i played Eve online back in the day. for me and my mates it was just spreadsheets and market manipulation lol

mathamatical

[wanton cloud]

it DOES equal 180 what digeridoo thing are you talking about?😭

[half atlas]

Not to my mk 3 logistic ass

[wanton cloud]

mk3 transports 270 per minute so 180 is well below the line

[tall lantern]

if you can't fit 180 items on a 270 belt then I fear for your factory

[wanton cloud]

can we see some of your factories just for the record

thanks god i don't have a belt output

it's cus of people like these

[half atlas]

You know what it was?

One of my miner was not hooked up

[wanton cloud]

incredible. just incredible

[unkempt blade]

I'm feigning shock right now that it's a build mistake and not math being wrong

[ornate saffron]

99% of the time when my math is wrong its becuase its 4am and ive been awake for 28 hours refusing to go to bed because i have so little free time

ill come back a few days later look at my notes and think "WTF is wrong with me"

[wanton cloud]

I still have the same note from phase 1
"Make central storage"
I infact, did not yet make a central storage, and im still thinking why i gave myself that goal so early on, but here we are

yall

does the chainsaw accept ONLY solid biofuel as valid fuel?

[toxic lichen]

think so

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[ornate saffron]

Fun fact the vehicle called "the explorer" has a built in crafting bench. I use it yo explore and collect biomass. Early game

[fickle locust]

Explorer is my favorite

[umbral tendon]

You need reinfoced frames thu

[ornate saffron]

Pretty common around crash sites

[umbral tendon]

Ah

Ok

[west sluice]

what does the pressure sensor on the geothermal generator mean? can it explode?

[ornate saffron]

It cannot explode.

Geothermal power fluctuates

[west sluice]

ohhh is the flashing light just cosmetic then?

[ornate saffron]

Likely.

[west sluice]

thanks!! nah i was worried i had to set up like some kind of steam regulation system with pipes or something

[ornate saffron]

There is ways to min maxing geothermal. But I've always just ploped a generator on it connect it to my grid and the just forget lol

[half atlas]

Now it's right 👍

[zenith sage]

2/4 Phase 4 assembly lines finished... it felt way too easy so I'm scared about the other two...

[obsidian zodiac]

hey leo, no video tomorrow. soon tm

[frosty bloom]

The feeling, when you mess up your calculations... You even thought that something is wrong, yet you proceed. And then you find out, you really fced up, badly. Way me, a small mistake, i calculated my plutonium waste production with 100%, even i needed to calculate it at 250%... Oh boi

[vale quail]

will it have to do with 1.2 ?

[abstract heron]

Will we have our stream Soonish i miss those

Or patch sometime soon?

Even if its quick a hello qa and stream or something

[obsidian zodiac]

you WISH!!

[round matrix]

next video 1.2 release trailer :D

[abstract heron]

Patch coming soon? OR stream like ficmas Stuff u peeps have to go threw?

[obsidian zodiac]

stream soon! mikaels gonna boot it up next week i believe

[abstract heron]

oh okay

patch coming? in few days or still working hard at them

[obsidian zodiac]

studios been heads down, more to share soon 🙂 weve got some stuff cookin

[abstract heron]

patch BEFORE 1.2 OR later

[obsidian zodiac]

LEO

SOOOON

[abstract heron]

WHAT

[abstract heron]

me behaving and a good boy 🙂

[vale quail]

of course all of us are eagerly waiting

[abstract heron]

i just wishing that some stuff in game like machines get scaled back when i Start my world or reload it its so high then cools off

[round matrix]

jason when can we expect a fix on the "track loops into itself" bug when placing a signal directly on a junction

[abstract heron]

THAT i hate

[obsidian zodiac]

tbh i wanna share everything were up to but id probs get fired and deported. still cooking on things, thank you for being patient ❤️

[abstract heron]

but i am hoping that the ficmas stuff can be done as BOTH mikael and jason looking at the competion

[obsidian zodiac]

not sure, ill note that and talk to QA tho!

[round matrix]

amazing! thanks :)

[vale quail]

you're welcome 🙂

[abstract heron]

or scoled by mikael and the devs

[obsidian zodiac]

mikael already hits me enough

[ornate saffron]

[abstract heron]

but thx for everything and excited for Tuesday stream 😛

[round matrix]

is that why you locked him in the basement

[abstract heron]

i should do 20k hr review saying good game i have atm jason

18,434 hrs on record TOTAL

[shadow talon]

Hi

[obsidian zodiac]

i have 6k rocket league hours, and every day im tempted to leave a negative review. youre a better lion than I, leo

[ivory condor]

you all are definitely cooking 1.2 stuff I get it and im fine that means probably no patch until 1.2 is released, because the studio wants to focus all energy on that, rather than putting a patch together, which makes sense

[abstract heron]

but i am hoping for a video on more behind the scenes stuff later this year even its like How do we make our patchs or how do we fix a issue or something jason?

[ivory condor]

Still how soon until 1.2, this month, next month, when is it coming out👀

[tall lantern]

SOON

[obsidian zodiac]

tbh im not sure about any patches coming up, ill make a note to chat with uzu tomorrow about it. mikael might have an update when he streams as well!

SOOOOON

[abstract heron]

or the planning process of a update

[ornate saffron]

@lost rapids congrats on first nut

[lost rapids]

I love nuts

[shadow talon]

The trophy?

[lost rapids]

Yeahhhhhhhh..

[shadow talon]

Ok

[lost rapids]

Ok yourself

[ivory condor]

I don't think a video of the devs opened up UE Editor and having things like Visual Studio open looking at nuts of code to fix issues with the game would make for a very interesting video, at least for the majority of people, from a technical side it would be interesting to see how the typical code side, debug and patch process goes though

Well I know how I normally fix and patch errors in my own code but I'm not a normal person😅

[abstract heron]

maybe but idk

[cedar vault]

oh boy just started a new modded creative world

this is gonna be good

[abstract heron]

ooooo fun

[cedar vault]

not sure where to start tho
-# maybe power first then factory or vice versa?

[ornate saffron]

Does it matter in creative mode? I guess if you have power restrictions on power first?

[cedar vault]

nah i just wanna build a nice nuclear plant because i can and because i love nuclear power

but i also wanna make factories

[abstract heron]

or do satisfactory plus playthough ALL

[south jackal]

Im pretty sure im over thinking all of this but i want to get some advice on how to make sure throughput on trains is good as im worried about making a station that only produces iron rods at say 500 per minute but i want to deliver 102 per minute

[fickle locust]

If you set up an A to B route eventually your train car will fill up because it's trying to deliver 500 when B can only accept 100
This is fine, it just means B will have material forever

You can't tell trains to only pick up a certain amount, so the way trains balance an A to B to C route is filling B, then the overflow goes to C

[south jackal]

Damn

[cunning moth]

looking for someone who wants to start a game

DM me

[south jackal]

So basically its better to track how much requests are going to a factory and being careful of mixing different items unless i know they are 100% going to the same area

[fickle locust]

Generally you don't want to mix items on train cars
If you do, you need smart splitters and an overflow sink

[ornate saffron]

My advice is transport ingots not rods. At worst rods are a 1:1 build ratio. There is recipes that give you more rods per ingot. So its best to transport the highest density part.

Another better example is screws. You always get more screws per ingot.

[keen vault]

steel rod my beloved

steel rod changes life

[south jackal]

Im mostly planning to make smelteries that make ingots that then make T1 and T2 items (like plates) to then transport those items for more advanced items like HMFs or Nuclear fuel rods

[ornate saffron]

I use the recipe best for the situation. But you understand the concept

[ornate saffron]

Again I suggest moving the ingots for anything 1:1 or worse. Make your plates on location. Move more part dense and complex items like modular frames or HMF.

[south jackal]

That is a good idea honestly

[ornate saffron]

Like im not going to move all the raw materials to make smart plating. I built a factory for that during phase 1. Ill just move the end product of smart plates

[toxic lichen]

whats the use of smart plating after the phase thingy

[ornate saffron]

Each phase part builds on the parts from the previous phase.

You need 4300 smart plates to complete all phases

[toxic lichen]

oh e'-e'

[west sluice]

My train claims a station is unreachable even though it clearly isnt, where can i post an accompanying screenshot?

[ornate saffron]

For example you need smart plating to make modular engines

[south jackal]

I plan reworking my starter factories to work with trains and also so im always stocked with items :>

[toxic lichen]

ahhhhh

[ornate saffron]

#1038092680493801533

[west sluice]

Thanks!

[ornate saffron]

To each there own. My advice is exactly that. Advice. Take it or leave it. This game provides you with a wide range of options to tackle problems. You choose the ones that you like

[south jackal]

I do plan taking your advice for 1:1 or worse as it makes sense

(Especially with some of the bs recipes...)

[weary condor]

Every recipe has its place

Unfortunately this included fuckass screws

[ornate saffron]

I generally ask myself what is more dense a stack on ingots or the part i want to make with them.

Is one stack of steel ingots more dense then one stack of screws.

One ingot makes 260 screws. Screws stack to 500.
Ingots stack to 200

[weary condor]

Beef have you ever used wet concrete/pure iron recipes?

[ornate saffron]

If i want trains at my start factory I just make a train station nearby.

In this case I only need smart plating from that facility. So I have a factory cart moving then to my quartz facility 2km away. Then using that train hub.

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[weary condor]

Why they suck so hard man…

[ornate saffron]

Well they don't "suck so hard" you get more output per ore then the normal recipe. This costs you more power and logistics

[weary condor]

But so much waterrrrrrr

[ornate saffron]

Again thats the balance. More output more cost.

[weary condor]

Gahhhhhhh

[weary condor]

Oh btw dms super quick

[ornate saffron]

ill post some stuff as examples in #design-and-architecture for you

[ornate saffron]

or not i dont have screen shots on this computer lol

but in short my last completion i decided to make 10/min of all phase 5 parts. I had once facility make all the iron and copper ingots for phase 4 and 5 factories

i used SOOOOO MANY refineries 200 plus,

[grave sage]

Anyone got any tips for someone starting to use trains??

[ornate saffron]

if you plan on multiple trains run a two track one direction system

think of how your drive cars

[weary condor]

Two rails running in parallel, always

[ivory condor]

only one critical one, dont try to make bidirectional trains work on a single track, its a nightmare, save yourself the trouble and make all rails one direction tracks only, save yourself a ton of trouble

[wary falcon]

how does running packaging trains i need, supposed i want to transport 720 nitrogen gas. how many packagers should i make? enough to fill an industrial storage on each end of the train? i kind of dont get it

[ornate saffron]

Depends on distance and belts

They were discussing this here

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1468990207104913580

[wary falcon]

im not necesarily talking about throughput.. im just confused on how to work with packagers. because i heard somewhere you dont really need to have a production of packagers if you jsut keep recycling them

but i cant figure out how that function

[ornate saffron]

Um.... have you made a diluted packaged fuel power plant before?

[pastel surge]

How did this happen #streams-and-videos message

[wary falcon]

no... im skipping straight to rocket fuel lol

[ornate saffron]

I havent done what you want to do but here is what i gather

Use a buffer (industrial storage) on both sides for the package gas. This allows you to load and unload your packages smoothly. Ideally you want a balance of gas being packaged and unpack aged on both ends. If you have a surplus you can just sink it on either end

You can in theory recycle the containers by shipping them back to the start after unpacking making a closed loop system.

The other option is to just sink the empty packages and not ship them back making new packages constantly

[ornate saffron]

With style

[wary falcon]

ok sounds good enough for me tyty

[pastel surge]

Yep, light work

[quasi warren]

#streams-and-videos message I know this place... @pastel surge

Thats where I get my first sam in the dune desert Lol

[zenith pecan]

I have more than ten thousand sam in the dune desert 😄

[quasi warren]

WHAT-

[zenith pecan]

All the worlds sam is here #design-and-architecture message , under the dunes,

[ornate saffron]

He is famous for (every node being processed in one facility)

[wary falcon]

what the hell

crazy lol

[zenith pecan]

Talking about the 12300 bauxite in one refinery thing?

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[hardy wigeon]

thats nuts

[zenith pecan]

Here that is #design-and-architecture message

[hardy wigeon]

my main takeaway from that is im stealing the black and white because that was slick

[zenith pecan]

The metal look is using the ficsit walls with the unpainted finish.