satisfactory

[spare cradle]

It's meant for refinery and machine building use

[golden nexus]

Yeah, It should be loose change from basic steel setup

[spare cradle]

It's entirely based on (currently caterium and) iron.

[jolly sierra]

Y'all think if I leave my PC on for 16 hours I'll finish phase 1

[golden nexus]

let me check what i have here

[spare cradle]

The small tight sections of 8 impure iron nodes

[golden nexus]

doing it wrong if it takes that time

[spare cradle]

Over in the grasslands and looking over to the abyss

[jolly sierra]

I probably am but-

[spare cradle]

I only at max wait 30 mins

Or yk for drives

[golden nexus]

yeah i got about 20/min motor

[jolly sierra]

I'm not using alt recipies

Only one node of iron and coal. . .

[ornate saffron]

you need 50 smart plating defualt rate for one machine ios 2/min. It should be done in 25 minutes

[jolly sierra]

Oh I'm finishing phase two

Did I say one?

[golden nexus]

I do something like this its stator / rotor / motor on 3 floors #screenshots message

[jolly sierra]

Yeah I said one

[ornate saffron]

#satisfactory message

[ornate saffron]

i did something simular twenty minutes ago

[golden nexus]

Phase 1 being 50 smart plate?

[spare cradle]

My factory is only 2 floors and very wide than tall.

[jolly sierra]

Y'all think if I leave my PC on for 16 hours I'll finish phase 2

[golden nexus]

still doing it wrong 😛

[spare cradle]

... Bruv how inefficient are your factories that you need 16 hours

[ornate saffron]

500 minutes 500/60=8.4 hours

[ornate saffron]

you need a total of 4300 smart plating to see credits roll

[golden nexus]

Smart plate... this is 50-54/min #screenshots message

[jolly sierra]

BRUH

[spare cradle]

I'll admit that it took me a time to complete phase 2, but by not much

[spare cradle]

That isn't much

[jolly sierra]

Lemme get some tickets to find my throughput

[golden nexus]

you have blueprints right?

[spare cradle]

Had to do 2.4k versatile frame for Phase 2

[jolly sierra]

[golden nexus]

Like make your own in the blueprinter and then scale it

[ornate saffron]

no not at all ^_^

[cyan spade]

evening yall

[glad hawk]

😔

[golden nexus]

which is it that screws you up? the smart plate, the vert frame work and what are the supply lines like for both rplate and mod frame?

[ornate saffron]

heyo

[spare cradle]

Evenin

[cyan spade]

rq question is it okay to overlap conveyors? from an athestic standpoint

[golden nexus]

its your choice to clip

[spare cradle]

Aesthetics? Meh. Functionally? Go buck wild

Go through the earth for all that matters

[golden nexus]

layering also works #screenshots message

[cyan spade]

Well, the mAssage2ab(b) that is

[cyan spade]

hmmm-

[spare cradle]

Dirt is called earth in a sense. Gimme a break from all the mathing

[golden nexus]

east/west one hight north/south other height etc...

[cyan spade]

Ah earth as ground lol

[ornate saffron]

the easest way is using stacking converyor ples bought in the awesome shop

[cyan spade]

Satisfactory is js spreadsheets disguised as a video game fr

[cyan spade]

alr, thx!

[golden nexus]

can always just go full sushi 😛

[spare cradle]

Looks nice

[golden nexus]

the ugly parts behind me lol

[spare cradle]

Ofc lol. I contain everything in a brick/building

[golden nexus]

yeah i don't have walls on some things yet lmao

[lost rapids]

Hello chat :)

[spare cradle]

I always put foundation --> machines/conveyer walls --> walls then roof

[golden nexus]

wall / floor holes for me are functional. With the way i stack the logestics for high speed stuff is very reduced / efficent in that regard, i get fast reduction to high value items

[golden nexus]

example of one, the ingots come up from the floor below and get turned to beam #screenshots message

So cause you get more out with solid steel ingot, You have foundries facing away and the constructors above facing together so you can deal with the 1800/min steel ingots

[cyan spade]

Holdup i put my current main factory in screenshots any tips?

[golden nexus]

more vertical

[cyan spade]

Understood

[golden nexus]

like past your concrete factory....

[cyan spade]

Right

[ornate saffron]

biggest question..... ar3e you happy with it. what dont you like about it?

what do you like about it

[cyan spade]

kinda js a concrete slab

[drowsy rock]

unlocked rifle without phase 2 feels so nice

[ornate saffron]

hey hey hey

[ornate saffron]

is that a dislike?

[cyan spade]

yes

[golden nexus]

So like if you go the extrem vertical it has advantages for some types of factory... like concrete eg #screenshots message
It takes up a 4x4 or 5x5 footprint.... but can do like 600/min

[ornate saffron]

take some time and look at some Architecture IRL and take some inspiration. if you buy all the items in the awesome shop you have many ways to decorate.

[drowsy rock]

i wish you could remove large rocks with like 5 explosives

[golden nexus]

don't be scared of spreading things out across the map as well

[sick peak]

Is the aluminium water byproduct going into rocket fuel a good idea

[golden nexus]

nope, you should not have byproduct

you can loop it

[cyan spade]

Lemme show u my old nuke from my last playthrougj

[cyan spade]

Ill do that!

[sick peak]

I’m making electrode scrap which will make like 2184 water for me

[ornate saffron]

i posted in #design-and-architecture too for you there we can share pictures

[sick peak]

can’t I just put it somewhere else, such as making diluted fuel to then make rocket fuel as I need to make HOR anyways

[white dawn]

So long as the diverted-to-rocket-fuel water gets used up properly it should work fine. Personally I don't usually like introducing cross-factory dependencies like that, but if you're okay with it there's nothing really wrong with it

Personally I always just use the "byproduct" water right inside the aluminum process itself, though I keep "fresh" and "byproduct" pipes totally separate. Overclock/underclock as appropriate to make sure the ratios are right, etc

A couple example images of layouts for that: #math-and-meta message

[cyan spade]

update 7 when yall join

[white dawn]

In the end, though, whatever you do to process the water is fine so long as it works. :)

[golden nexus]

depenfds on reipcies... but if you inject water like 600/min into Sloppy Alumina (3x ref's 600/min bauxite). You get out 120 per ref when you do the scrap. So. So you make another plant the same you sooner or late get enough water to feed the next aluminimum plants completly by the byproduct?

[golden nexus]

~4

[cyan spade]

I sent my old nuke in screenshots, thats more vertical

[cyan spade]

Nice man

[sick peak]

Yeah I was thinking about it because if my aluminium production comes to a halt, well then the whole plant goes on a halt lol. However i was thinking of making buffers, going into sinks and dimensional depos and eventually into actual builds. So the water is kept to a maximum. It’s the perfect amount to make a lot of rocket fuel, I’m also using alt recipes a lot better for this

[white dawn]

I know some folks like just sending aluminum water byproduct into Wet Concrete to buff up their concrete depot replenishment

[sick peak]

Like sloppy alumina, electrode scrap, pure aluminium ingot

[cyan spade]

anyway, cyall@1

*!

[golden nexus]

All you need to know is you start feeding the next set of ref's in a new group from the previous ref's the output for Scrap is 120/min (the same as a water extractor) or did you not notice this?

[sick peak]

Well Its a lot so I’m splitting it up into sections

So I don’t think I’d encounter such an issue?

[white dawn]

The second image in the post I linked is a sloppy/electrode setup which just keeps fresh/recycled separate

[golden nexus]

Electrode scrap is a bit different it makes 105/min water

[sick peak]

I need to pull 3120 water + 3120 bauxite to make this work and I’m not using trains so it would be at 100% efficiency

[golden nexus]

Also you can use a priority pipe merger to make sure your feedback loop always works first and then you have no issues with too much water

[sick peak]

It’s 4 pure mk3 miner nodes each pulling 780 bauxite

[sick peak]

Hmm ok

[lost rapids]

👀

[sick peak]

Imma check it out

[white dawn]

(Or if you just keep fresh+recycled separate you'll have no need for VIP Junctions and such. If you do merge your fresh+recycled pipes, though, then yeah -- a VIP Junction is generally the most reliable way to do that. See https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf for info on that)

And indeed, for a bigger build like that it generally makes sense to do it in modules

[sick peak]

I’m doing it in modules yeah

[white dawn]

Like the sloppy/electrode setup I linked to is actually two modules I think each processing 600/min bauxite

[sick peak]

It’s all perfectly split up iirc.

[golden nexus]

Yeah so i would break alu into sections per water and bauxite eg 600/min of water per set

cause thats the first limit you hit eg pipes

which funny enough is 600/min bauxite in the recipie i am using.. which is either 2 impure, 1 normal or a split pure node

[sick peak]

It is all broken up, my aluminium scrap is also broken up into 8 belts so 8 sections iirc. Around that. But I don’t think I’d need to loop back the water

Since I’m constantly gonna be drawing 3120 anyway

Or maybe I’m not understanding something here

[golden nexus]

I am also only using like 600/min so far lmao i never built more...

in this setup

[sick peak]

Can I ping you guys in my question so you can see the actual model?

[golden nexus]

i think i get 540/min alu ingots which is fine for unlocks

i also set it up in such a way that the ingots are on rail.. so i can move them around and also have modules in different places

[dense violet]

I really wouldn’t- they work off an exploit and aren’t reliable to build

You can build them exactly like the last abd they might not work

They are probably the most reliable of the mixing solutions - but thats because all those options are not very reliable

[regal helm]

😭 every time I fix something, something else breaks

[native tapir]

Try breaking something. usually fixes other things

[sick peak]

Should I make a separate HMF factory for FMF or use my current one to fuel the FMF factory

Im only making some 14 a minute

[golden nexus]

it depends

i have a fairly powerful steel setup for doing all the unlocks... so it works for me

so i get like 6/min FMF

[sick peak]

Yeah I can do 6 FMF with my current setup but it would leave me with no HMF left to use in other projects

Cause i do 3/min for my dimensional depo and my Phase 3 factory eats up 5 I think

[golden nexus]

i have like 11/min HMF

[sick peak]

Hmm

[golden nexus]

you can complete the game with something like that, but you can't for example do nuclear waste reprocessing

you start to get into needing a proper hmf eventually

[sick peak]

Yeah thats what I was thinking

[golden nexus]

i tend ot switch strat, which is to spread things out around the map and connect them by train at that point

[sick peak]

So should I make a new factory that creates 30-40 HMF/min?

[golden nexus]

eventually

or work towards that

[sick peak]

So like 30-40 Hmf and all of it goes into FMF?

and then PCC?

[golden nexus]

probably not needed, depends on your late gamegoals

you don't need tons of pasta.. its not the awkward part 😉

[sick peak]

Well I wanna make quite a bit

Does 10/min sound a lot for nuclear pasta?

Thats my goal mainly in terms of nuclear pasta

10 or 20 a min

[golden nexus]

its a lot of copper

[sick peak]

Yeah thats my main concern

I know 10-20 a min is already in the tens of thousands

[golden nexus]

Its not too bad if you use things like copper alloy or better

you in T9 yet?

[sick peak]

just started phase 4 lol, currently bringing everything to my aluminium production to start making it

[golden nexus]

mk3 miners?

Cause go for the mk3/miner and mk6 belts 😛

[sick peak]

yeah Ive started to get them up and running using coupons lol

[golden nexus]

you will find you can double your existing hmf

[sick peak]

But will make all the parts soon enough

just need an abundance of aluminium

[sick peak]

yeee

[golden nexus]

this is why my steel is cooking... #screenshots message

[sick peak]

Thats a lot of steel

[golden nexus]

its 1 pure coal node

[golden nexus]

you get and even better deal on copper #screenshots message

and yeah its 2400/min for both sides

[sick peak]

That is a lot of copper

Thats nice tho

[golden nexus]

but the steel.. thats the sort of stuff you want ot be doing with hmf later on

you end up with 1200/min pipe etc...

[void cliff]

I’m not so sure I like iron pipe anymore. It’s convenient, yeah, but it uses a lot of iron per pipe compared to steel or cast steel

[golden nexus]

Yup

Better doing solid steel if you can

[rain hollow]

Anyone know how to get to a certain SAM node?

[void cliff]

solid steel ingots to cast pipe or cast beams are both pretty good

[golden nexus]

iron pipe is really good for something like making automated miners from a single impure iron node

[void cliff]

A few of them are in caves, you can usually find the entrance just by running around

[rain hollow]

It's inside or under, (i'm not really sure which) a mountain in the dunes desert

Can't find the entrance

[void cliff]

I did them off of a major steel plant, steel plates and steel pipes (kind of a fun mix up compared to iron), and it just fills up the container faster than you can ever use miners, lol

Stuff like that I just don’t factor into production rates, it’s just free at steady state

[crude holly]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[crude holly]

For the bottom one could you add 3 more and just add 4 more at the end?

or would you need to introduce a pump?

6 pumps / 8 coal generators

[feral jay]

Pumps have no effect on anything aside from headlift and acting as an always open valve

[void cliff]

Jesus, what a weird diagram. Yeah you can totally do what you asked. Should generally work.

You’re essentially asking if you can do 2Each of the top diagram.

[feral jay]

I just stick with 8:3 and replicate it as needed

[crude holly]

Okay I just wanted to make a pretty design where everything stacks well but I can work around that and just develope somethings differently. I'm extremely close to being able to unlock mark 2 miners so I wanted to preemptively design something to instantly start doubling the power output.

[short fiber]

It's love my new blueprints. 240 iron smelting in a 3x5x4 area

I forgot to connect 3 lines. Why must soemthing always go wrong

[void cliff]

I love that making a butt-load of underutilized machines has basically no negative consequences. It’s peak efficiency!

[short fiber]

Peak efficiency or no efficiency

[crude holly]

Because I'm thinking about tier 2 miners on tier 2 belts into a merger then output into a tier 3 belt towards another merger spreading it 50/50 along 16 total generators. 8/3 and another 8/3. Output should be 1200w I believe

[spare cradle]

I would try to keep the systems as separate as possible

[crude holly]

Why specifically? For if it runs out of power all of the generators don’t die?

[spare cradle]

So you have less trouble with conveyers.

[placid stirrup]

You can do 16/6 as long as you still follow capacity limits

[crude holly]

Ahh okay

[spare cradle]

Less load/ less single conveyer belts equal less choke points

And keeps it simple

[placid stirrup]

I'd argue one main manifold belt is simpler

Especially in a system as simple as coal gens

[gloomy tusk]

yo man how you been

[whole robin]

what's the point of Compacted Steel Ingots? it just seems like it's worse in every way

[void cliff]

May as well just overclock the first one to feed 20 coal generators. Or overclock 8 coal genrators and then you need 1 water extractor for each generator

[feral jay]

Good, got all my teir 8 milstones done and working on automating nuke nobs

Because nuke nobs are awesome

[void cliff]

The point is to use up the compacted coal 🙂 or you can also use it in a coal generator. There’s a few recipes in the game that produce compacted coal as a byproduct.

[gloomy tusk]

how do you unlock them

[feral jay]

||the MAM||

[coral marsh]

The unlock costs 500 normal nobs, 100 ai limiters and I think 20 uranium ore

[gloomy tusk]

oh not that hard

[coral marsh]

Yea just place down a MAM when you're near a uranium node

[feral jay]

uranium ore encased uranium cells

Which you need to build the nuke nobs anyway

[coral marsh]

Oh it is too, I stand corrected

Less radioactive than carrying around the raw ore

I might go ahead and unlock them again myself now

Just need to package some sulfuric acid

[torn lynx]

are purple power slugs radioactive?

[feral jay]

I never use them but I like just watching the explosion sometimes

[coral marsh]

No

[torn lynx]

cause I went near it and my radiatio nwent up

[feral jay]

It was something else then

[coral marsh]

Thats uranium node

[torn lynx]

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT

[feral jay]

Well, it was uranium deposits nearby guarding it

[torn lynx]

I GOT MURDERED BY AN EVIL RADIATION BOAR

[feral jay]

Uranium deposits are used as an area denial mechanism

[calm plaza]

I hate the marshland is there any way I can let it meet hell?

[coral marsh]

Nuke nobelisks

[feral jay]

Yes, I suggest nuke nobs, that's a good reason for automating them

Or cut it all down and turn it into sweet sweet liquid biofuel

[calm plaza]

the thing is that I hate the fauna in the marsh...

[torn lynx]

ok my tractor and chest is gone forever

[calm plaza]

namely the spiders

and I am pre-rifle

[feral jay]

Everyone does, it's rather well known for being hostile to pioneers

Automating homing ammo and keeping a few stacks of inhalers in the DD also helps a great deal

[calm plaza]

I also absolutely hate creatures with 4+ legs but don't want to enable arachnophobia mode

uhh that part is mostly my fault

[feral jay]

arachnaphobia mode doesn't make them any less aggressive or change their behaviour at all, just makes them less scary, easier to see, and they meow instead of hiss

[calm plaza]

yeah that I do know

[feral jay]

So the challenge is still there if that's what you're worried about

[calm plaza]

really just the look of it and the feeling of getting jump(literally)scared

[coral marsh]

You can technically fully disable spiders, its just, in the advanced game settings which is considered cheating

[feral jay]

I watched a review of Satis the other day where the guy was basically saying "Horror games are my thing. I've got ten thousand hours playing some really fucked up horror games, but somehow these fucking spiders take the cake."

[coral marsh]

I have nearly every achievement in alien isolation, outlast 1 and 2 + whistle blower, i have completed Re7 on every difficulty and yea, the spiders in this game, are almost worse than the damn xenomorphs of alien isolation

[feral jay]

The closest thing I can compare them to recently is Subnautica's reapers. You can't even fight those things, they'll kill you in one hit, come out of nowehere, but somehow the spiders in THIS game are scarier.

Although those reapers really do instill a sense of... dread

[feral snow]

I was actually murdered and the spiders are scarier

[coral marsh]

Xenomorphs truly are a thing of nightmares

[strong fiber]

Thats why i dont play subnautica i hate what lurks in the ocean bro

My ahh would get scared by a peeper

[calm plaza]

-just ran into a big spider
-had to throw two nobelisks in order to blow it up
-blew myself up in the process
-still happy that it died

[feral jay]

The elite stingers even blind you

Usually in the middle of a forest with lots of things to run into

[calm plaza]

wtf

[feral jay]

With gas clouds, you're not blind per se, but you can't see through the cloud

[calm plaza]

the devs pulled this shyt straight out of satan's asshole

[feral jay]

I commend them on their artistry

[calm plaza]

"well why yes let's add existential threat to our peaceful factory building game"

[feral jay]

I remember when they added the jumping, I had no idea, I thought I was safe on a ledge

[short fiber]

I wish i could mirror the directions of the mergers/splitters/ conveyors with blueprints. It's not too annoying but that qol would be off the charts

[coral marsh]

The large green ones are the worst

[feral jay]

WTF THESE FUCKERS JUMP NOW?!?!

god that was an awesome scare

[coral marsh]

It legit terrified me when I first saw it

THIS FUCKER THE SIZE OF A FREIGHT TRUCK CAN FUCKING JUMP?

[hidden pebble]

I completed alien isolation on hard. It was quite the experience.

[coral marsh]

I did it on nightmare and in under 4 hours

In one sitting

[hidden pebble]

It was my first time playing, so cut me some slack

[coral marsh]

I wasnt bragging

[hidden pebble]

I died way too much to those creepy facefuckers

It didn't help i used up too much flamethrower fuel

[hidden pebble]

Well, i guess you played it a lot of times before/ used some crouch clipping?

[granite basalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1467898052860711043/F3120259-4F9E-4C93-BB0C-4893302C8738.png?ex=69840858&is=6982b6d8&hm=7962af7e2bf40c4f782d5a937792fc02f5d6e96ff68916eb75ffc299a45c14e0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1423&height=800

ah yes

[coral marsh]

No glitches or hacks where used, ive just played it a fk ton so I now the map

[granite basalt]

even bringing clustered nobelisk and explosive rebar
I would not want to go in

[calm plaza]

*fuckin explodes and dies

[granite basalt]

I though finding 3 in a small cave is bad.
now THERE ARE 5

[hidden pebble]

Average SAM/uranium moment

[granite basalt]

exactly, the SAM cave in northern Dune Desert. The second time I cameback to upgrade my miner to mk2, I found there some rock not exploded yet in the corner.

[wary falcon]

is diluted fuel the best before turbo?

[gloomy tusk]

i play with aracnaphobia game on but after my brother played he turned it off and one of the giant ones jumped at my and killed me like instantly 😭

[drowsy kelp]

They can jump over 50 meters in any direction, including up

[feral jay]

Yeah I know that now, but I didn't know that when they first introduced the jumping, and I was completely unprepared for it.

[drowsy kelp]

You mentioned reapers in subnautica, at least there you can get used to them

They’re off in the distance, you’re more or less safe if you keep your distance

You can see it with the sonar

[feral jay]

I jsut kill them but until I get that far, but I never get used to them

[drowsy kelp]

But stingers, as soon as they sense you they come running

Aggro notification or not

Even all the other fauna on the planet hates stingers

[void cliff]

Diluted fuel is just all about maximizing fuel from oil. Diluted packaged fuel (phase 3) and diluted fuel (phase 4) give the same conversion rate from HOR. Turbofuel is a lot more efficient than fuel in burners (per crude oil), but it’s still kind of just a side-grade / mid-game fuel. It’s not worth making a lot of turbofuel refineries because rocket fuel is better in virtually every way. Packaged diluted fuel is kind of a chore to set up, too, so I usually will opt for a simple “heavy turbofuel” phase 3 option that just gets me enough power to get to phase 4 and nitro rocket fuel

[granite basalt]

tbh it's better when they can jump, I can alway bait them to the cliff, like the hog too

[wary falcon]

i think i need tro make a mega dilute fuel factory cuz i only got 6.7k MW and im at tier 7 almsot tier 8

[drowsy kelp]

If you know they’re there, maybe

cough what happened the other day cough

[wary falcon]

holy timing, i just got turbo heavy fuel alt recipe

[void cliff]

You should focus on rocket fuel then. Not turbofuel. A single pure oil node I believe makes 1200 rocket fuel, which means ~ 120 overclocked fuel generators

Crude oil -> heavy oil residue -> diluted fuel -> nitro rocket fuel is the simplest setup.

600 crude oil makes 800 heavy oil residue which makes 800 diluted fuel which makes 1200 rocket fuel. I’m not sure if those numbers are correct, I’m going off my shitty memory

[wary falcon]

how do i reach rocket fuel then?

[void cliff]

You must research it in the MAM and have blenders unlocked

[wary falcon]

ahh bless i was asusuming it was through tier 9 or smth considering i never saw it ty. do you know which research tree?

[void cliff]

Sulfur, right next to turbofuel. You need a hard drive and some turbofuel if I recall? Maybe also bottled nitrogen

[wary falcon]

tysm

[sleek creek]

I really need to wrap my head around using planners for factories. But when it starts telling me I need 2.07 machines...I want to throw it across a room.

[drowsy kelp]

Build 3 machines and use the power of underclocking

[sleek creek]

Nobody told me there would be maths in my video games!

[drowsy kelp]

Do you know what game you’re playing

[fickle locust]

Wait I thought the gas balloons in the swamp were destructible

[hollow turret]

if i were to make a flat world do yall think i could hit object limit by placing foundations

[hollow hemlock]

hooray I saved the day and never gave up on the spaghetti

[hidden pebble]

Just overclock it to 207% homeboy

[hybrid nymph]

Awesome 😎

Want to know something funny? I got banned from the official Yu-Gi-Oh server for calling out META players for ruining the game. The admins didn't like that so they banned me, for simply telling the truth lol 😆

[stoic laurel]

how come this hatcher keeps spawning under my foundation

[hollow hemlock]

do you have a powered building anywhere nearby

[hybrid nymph]

If you place power buildings they'll stop spawning

[stoic laurel]

not yet, just a slab of concrete

okay, didnt realize i needed a powered building to stop spawning

[feral jay]

You need some unkown number of things that include at least one powered building I think. It works on some kind of points system, different buildables being worth different points. The devs haven't told us hat the actual formula is.

Or at least, something has to be powered, not necessarily a building. My blueprinted power poles prevent spawns.

[stoic laurel]

well that hatcher wont be happy when i turn on 114 refineries ontop of its spawn point XD

[hollow hemlock]

Maybe put a nice hatcher protein constructor over the spawn point just to drive it home

[stoic laurel]

i already ran pipes over the spot the hatcher is under

[hollow hemlock]

Sure, but you need to send a message to those guys

[stoic laurel]

true

but #screenshots message pipes

[void cliff]

How do you guys prefer to play a new save? Rush through to phase 3 or 4? Savor phase 1 & 2 as long as possible?

[stoic laurel]

i restarted my first game when my brother coaxed me that my i wasnt playing in a hard enough area. but i still took my time doing P 1 - 2 in order to have a decent amount of stuff built up from those going into P3

and before i went into P3 i had gotten myself DDs

atleast unlocked

[hearty solar]

What’s a load balancer…?

[agile crater]

why does progression feel slower to start?

[hearty solar]

It feels productive/j

[willow pond]

do doggos respawn if they're killed?

[reef basin]

a contraption from splitters and mergers that takes X inputs and returns Y outputs, that generally have same per minute rate.

mostly useless in this game, as manifolds and direct input solve practically all of your issues

[feral snow]

The forest spawn is way better than the desert spawn because it has 3 iron deposits, copper and limestone nearby, and coal relatively nearby (~500m)

no idea why the game lists the more rocky deserty spawn as more beginner-friendly

[compact flicker]

Tempted to start a new save file

:3

[hardy wigeon]

how far are you right now?

[compact flicker]

My current save is 141 hrs phase 3, I've done quite a bit but took a 2 ish month break. I have beaten the game before, but early SatisFactory is my favorite part

[hardy wigeon]

then I say go for it

i mean if you get bored you can always go back too

[compact flicker]

Yeah I suppose

[trail folio]

start one with me

[compact flicker]

I tend to enjoy solo quite a bit more, sry.

[trail folio]

alright

[hardy wigeon]

I just started over like a month ago

im on phase 3 now

[trail folio]

u dont mind someone joinin?

[hardy wigeon]

nah sorry im a solo kinda guy too 🙁

[gloomy tusk]

I’m working on phase. 4

[hardy wigeon]

woo

i have been as far as having nuclear set up in the past

[trail folio]

ive completed the game so its time to restart

[gloomy tusk]

It’s hard 😭

[hardy wigeon]

i can't remember what phase that is

[gloomy tusk]

My phase

[hardy wigeon]

ah

[gloomy tusk]

I have it set up

[hardy wigeon]

wooo nuclear waste!

[compact flicker]

#design-and-architecture message

I will miss this tho

[stoic laurel]

my first game was in the grass fields start, i then started over in the dune desert

[hardy wigeon]

ive always started the same spot

this save im gonna explore more

grass fields i guess. the easy one

[compact flicker]

I've tried starting in other areas, but grass fields is my favorite

[hardy wigeon]

the other ones sound scary 🙁

lol

[gloomy tusk]

Radio control units smell

[compact flicker]

Mmmmburning electronics

Is 1.1.1.3 new?

[hardy wigeon]

somewhere.....there is a box all the crap i cant carry is going. somewhere in this build. and someday ill find it.

[hybrid nymph]

More like nuclear gold

Yummy nuclear waste lol

[hardy wigeon]

what do you do with it?

this was in beta btws

[hybrid nymph]

you can do two things with it: 1. Store it indefinitly in a place far away from the base. 2. reporcess it into plutonium fuel rods, which you can either use for power or you can awesome sink them for a waste free nuclear setup

Plutonium fuel rods are twice as good as uranium fuel rods, and produce 10 times less waste

[hardy wigeon]

ooooo

when i hit nuclear again ill do that this time

last time i just had the shit piling up down a hole lol

[hybrid nymph]

oh BTW there is a way to save scum the hard drive recipies

If you save right after the hard drive finishes scanning and save immedeatly before looking at the results in the MAM, you can re-roll the results before deciding

[hardy wigeon]

hrm good to know

ill keep that in mind too

[hybrid nymph]

the 3 most useful recipies are: bolted frames, iron screws, and stitched iron plates

[hardy wigeon]

gotcha

i officially have adaptive control units cooking woo

im gonna leave the game running overnight so i can hit phase four in the morning

[reef basin]

but honestly:

• if you just want to "cheat" your way to the recipe you want, use save editor to unlock it directly (or AGS)
• just getting more drives will be faster in the long run

so while it is indeed possible, I wouldn't recommend it much

[hybrid nymph]

make sure to somersloop and overclock the manufacturers or best setup 2 or 3 of them

[gloomy tusk]

Setting up a 10 p/m modular frame plant right now

Sorry I mean reinforced modular frames

Making them for my fused modular frames factory

[hardy wigeon]

woo just unlocked 6 inv slots in the mam

im behind on the mam

[hybrid nymph]

i think I have all of the inventory slots

[hardy wigeon]

i did in my old save

[hybrid nymph]

but those aren't an issue once you get dimensional depots setup

[hardy wigeon]

im far from that

i haven't explored much. i might do that tomorrow

[hybrid nymph]

I was thinking this game needed a mod like Applied Energistics like minecraft has, but it doesn't, the dimensional depots do the exact same thing as the ME system

[hardy wigeon]

i can't wait to get to the new stuff like that

[toxic lichen]

i wanna say
AE does a fair bit more
but i see your point

it does what is needed in this game

maybe a centralized storage system would be nice too tho lowk

[hardy wigeon]

I stopped playing shortly before the particle accelerators or whatever it is that came before nuclear

[toxic lichen]

class it under the alien tech

[hardy wigeon]

yeah i just havent found the purple ore yet. i could look it up and might just cheat and do that tomorrow

i have a few mercers and sloops waiting

[toxic lichen]

Pure SAM node location , first one i went to
||look for a really tall mountain that looks a little spikey||

[hybrid nymph]

I mean yeah instead of having like 100 industrial storage units, you could just have about 6 storage units with their own seperate belts and import busses to put the items into the ME system, and potentially store millions of items instead of just 48 stacks of items, and you could setup an entire network with your ME system. Just saying it would be an AWESOME mod and likely the most popular mod in the game

[hardy wigeon]

ill keep an eye out 🙂

[toxic lichen]

id say make it a couple hundred thousand
millions would be stretching it in satisfactory
although i do see its possibility

[unkempt blade]

why do you all store so many items?

[toxic lichen]

buffer storage

[unkempt blade]

yeah but why?

[hardy wigeon]

personally I like having a central hub with one big container of each item and i need to get it there as part of my system

just one of my goals. no real reason.

[unkempt blade]

there's like exactly 2 items I store more of than just using the DD so I'm curious what needs hundreds of thousands or millions of something

[toxic lichen]

for me personally
its just see the big numbers
and pushing a system to its limits that does it for me

[unkempt blade]

central storage is a fun project but like edible said why not just one big container for stuff you need?

[hybrid nymph]

I wish I knew how to program, I would love to make that mod

[unkempt blade]

play how you have fun but I just don't see what limit you're pushing 🤣

Anything that can be accomplished by leaving the game running while you're asleep doesn't feel like a win to me. Could just be playing Cookie Clicker or whatever at that point

[hardy wigeon]

That part isn't like some fun shit. Just wanna get to the next phase so in the morning i can start on big stuff

the building is the fun part.

even with the collection. the logistics of getting everything to a central location, especially when you have things like drones unlocked, is a fun challange

[unkempt blade]

yeah as a logistics project I get it I more don't understand tacking on 40 more containers per items or whatever

[hardy wigeon]

oh that i don't do

one container per item

[unkempt blade]

I personally keep an extra container of iron plates and concrete before I start sinking those but even when I'm building something large quickly I haven't had any issues with other items

[hardy wigeon]

i have sinks in each of my factories to keep them all running

but it does pile up at home

[unkempt blade]

yeah last time we built a mall for items we had to sink the extra there too to keep the sorting conveyors running

[hardy wigeon]

i was thinking eventual;ly id probably work that out. I DO have a sink at home because home base is also a factory

but im thinking about moving it

also my central hub must also have a TUBE hub

because im in love with the futurama tubes

[unkempt blade]

Yeah HT are pretty fun. Our EA world had a hub like that at the mall that took you directly to places but the current save has skyroads with HT entrances/exits at intersections #screenshots message

heavily boostered which is good as long as you don't get motion sick 😆

[hardy wigeon]

I have never really built roads. im going vehicle heavy this save and keep thinking about it

right now they offroad

[unkempt blade]

yeah I know some people don't like the skyroad style of things but it's nice being able to have a one stop BP answer for trains, cars, tubes, and conveyors

[hardy wigeon]

eh all my shit floats. with my central hub ive gotten around to putting 'supports' up for asthetic reasons

[unkempt blade]

I like to build factories as supports under the road too where it makes sense

[hardy wigeon]

yeah i get that

i might set up a coal truck now actually

EH thats more a tomorrow thing

[hybrid nymph]

best of luck

I never even bothered with trucks on this save, I just use trains

Infact I have never even built a single truck or tractor on this save at all

[hardy wigeon]

I already have one train and one truck. Well whatever the little truck is called. The truck is running coal in a place that I usually just use a really long belt but I wanted a vehicle

[unkempt blade]

I get a weird amount of satisfaction out of using tractors to move coal while being fueled by coal too and powering the truck stations with coal power

[hardy wigeon]

I always just connect them into my grid

[hybrid nymph]

the little truck is called a "tractor"

[hardy wigeon]

Aaaah yeah

[hybrid nymph]

and the tractor is getting an upgrade in update 1.2

so are the trucks

[granite basalt]

cool

[hardy wigeon]

How so?

[granite basalt]

what upgrade ?

[hybrid nymph]

The trucks are going to be able to carry liquids, and the tractors will get a plow, that destroys vegitation your drive over

[hardy wigeon]

Oooooo I like that

[hybrid nymph]

I have been watching the satisfactory update videos on the coffeestain channel

[hardy wigeon]

I usually just blow everything up

[hybrid nymph]

it's what Jordan said

I think that's his name, Snutt left

[hardy wigeon]

Lol

[hybrid nymph]

I miss Snutt

I am currently looking for a remote job

I'm looking to be a tutor

My college is always looking for English, Science, and Math tutors

Luckilly I have 3 bachelor's degrees, in: philosophy, political science, and economics respectivly

[stoic laurel]

with large builds, is it good to overclock certain things like water extractors?

[hybrid nymph]

absolutely yes, it saves a lot of space

and it's easier to organize

[unkempt blade]

as long as you can eat the higher power cost I generally think it's worth it

[hybrid nymph]

careful the power increases exponentially

[stoic laurel]

okay thank you, that will save me having to place down an extra 44 water extrators

[hybrid nymph]

keep in mind

MK1 pipes have ma max flow rate of 300^3m and MK2 pipes have a max flow rate of 600^3m

you cannot exceed this

[gloomy tusk]

i have lost efficency

[hybrid nymph]

on also update 1.2 will include MK3 fluid pipes, which will flow at 1800^3m

[gloomy tusk]

i played rocket league instead of satisfactory because i needed a break 😔

[stoic laurel]

so two overclocked water extractors can feed a mk2 pipe

[hybrid nymph]

correct yes

[unkempt blade]

That's good! Games should be fun, not work

[hybrid nymph]

if you think games are work, I have something to say

NEVER play ARK, Minecraft Blood n Bones, or Crash Landing

[gloomy tusk]

i think satisfactory is the most fun game i have ever played (disagree if you want its my opinion) but i do need to take breaks so i dont overplay and make it not fun

[hybrid nymph]

they are very unfun

[gloomy tusk]

i have tried ark 😭

[hybrid nymph]

ARK is a fuill time job!!

you need to put in at least 30 hours a week to get ANYWHERE!

[nova arch]

same with warframe

[stoic laurel]

looks at Rimworld

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I did the original ark when it was in EA. Our group just couldn't do some of the dinos because they wanted you to sit next to them for like 12 hours during the tame

[hybrid nymph]

there are mods to tame dinos instantly

want another game that's a full time job?

Wizard101

[unkempt blade]

I just can't get into pvp games that are like 95% griefing new players or offline raiding

[hybrid nymph]

If you want to get anywhere in that game, you need to play at least 4-6 hours A DAY

if you are doing that, you can get through each act in about a month

it took me 10 years! to beat it!

because it is so damn long

if you play 4 hours a day you can get to the final boss in 1 year

I finally beat in on February 17, 2022 and after I did I said "This game is TERRIBLE, I'm enever playing it again" then I uninstalled it

enuff about off topic stuff

how is everyone's factory comming along?

[coral marsh]

Im procrastinating laying train tracks

[hybrid nymph]

they can be tedious

[coral marsh]

Yup

[hybrid nymph]

I still can't figure out train signals for the life of me

[coral marsh]

Thats why im procrastinating

[hybrid nymph]

i watched like 5 youtube tutorials, still don't get it

so i just setup seperate tracks for every train route

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message its been slow, but ill have it done one day

[hybrid nymph]

really you only need a few train lines

1. oil 2. aluminum 3. coal 4. steel 5. copper

and quartz

[stoic laurel]

why not sulfar instead of oil?

[hybrid nymph]

I did setup a sulfur train

but it's best used when mixed with coal to make compacted coal, then mixed with fuel to make turbofuel

at oil

[clear mesa]

Peak mentioned

[hybrid nymph]

a fully overclocked fuel generator (gas turbine) takes 50^3m of fuel, but only 18.75^3m of turbofuel

[clear mesa]

You can speedrun through arc 1 and 2 honestly not that bad...it doesn't really get bad at all until azteca

[hybrid nymph]

i know

morganthe really isn't that hard

I only died once

[stoic laurel]

path of exile takes up a lot of time

[clear mesa]

Ooo

[hybrid nymph]

I killed her in 2 hits, I was fire

fire is the second highest damage

[stoic laurel]

i havent played the 2nd one but i know i spent a lot of time playing the 1st one

[clear mesa]

My last playthrough (years ago) was fire too

Ye ik

[hybrid nymph]

storm is the highest damage, but they have such low health and mana

[clear mesa]

But storm isn't fun to solo unless you enjoy grinding for perfect gear at every stop

[hybrid nymph]

at level 100 you only have 3000 health if you're storm

[clear mesa]

Looool there's always death

They made that school solo gods

[hybrid nymph]

at level 100 for ice, which is the tank, my mom, who was an ice wizard, had 8000 health

[clear mesa]

Yup jade armour

[hybrid nymph]

yeah my mom, sister, and I had our own seperate accounts and all palyed together

[clear mesa]

Lmao that's nice

[hybrid nymph]

I got the mastery amulet from the tentacles

[leaden turret]

looks at satisfactory

no tentacles here

[hybrid nymph]

lol okay

my second school was ice

and in pvp I would throw everyone off

[leaden turret]

no ice here either

[hybrid nymph]

I would dress like an ice wizard but be fire

enuff of this off toppic stuff lol

i need to get back into this game

I will tomorrow after school

[leaden turret]

off topic stuff is for #off-topic-general unless it's off-topic stuff that the CMs consistently ramble about

[hybrid nymph]

it's just so hard with work and school

to find time anymore for this game

espiecally with friends and a fiance

[leaden turret]

find time for self before finding time for game

[hybrid nymph]

I take 16 credits, work 30 hours a week, and have friends and a fiance

[leaden turret]

friends, fiance, ficsit; pick two

^concept of credits makes zero sense in the context of speaking to a brit with zero experience with the [insert territory here] education system

[clear mesa]

i wish nothing but the worst upon u 🙂‍↕️

evil

all your fuel gens will start experience sloshing problems

[leaden turret]

off-topic but I would play pyro in tf2, wear the jingle bells, and be amused when people didn't hear me coming

[clear mesa]

I loved scout

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> if Pioneer were a TF2 class, which would they be?

[clear mesa]

I dont think I ever actually unlocked any crates for cosmetics...still probably have a bunch of the MANcrates in my inventory

[leaden turret]

[insert irony of using crab walk to smash crabs]

[clear mesa]

Engineer?

[leaden turret]

avoid doing so. be thankful that satisfactory has no microtransactions

[leaden turret]

Pioneer has personality of Medic though.

[clear mesa]

Does the pioneer have any sort of personality?

[trail folio]

why does it matter

[clear mesa]

🤷‍♂️

[leaden turret]

does the Pioneer have a license?

[clear mesa]

Matters as much as everything else

Okay I see what you're getting at now..no clue though does she?

[leaden turret]

she*

if the Pioneer could craft bread, would the Pioneer send bread through the Portal when said not to?

[clear mesa]

Is this how the farming mod came into fruition or something

[leaden turret]

seems legit

[crab boss, but bread]

[flying breads]

[bread hatcher]

[mortal ginkgo]

My assumption is that ||copy of the body belongs to|| a really highly skilled Engineer who also loves their job. You can see it as the way she flips the build tool before using it.

THe problem is ||the mind isn't a copy and only has a potential to be good enough with muscle memory, aka player doing stuff||.

I wish we had more customization options.

But I get it, it ain't the focus of the game.

[hybrid nymph]

Engineer! POOT DISPENCER HERE!

[clear mesa]

I feel like i can get behind this idea somewhat

cloning of the "original" pioneer wouldn't be too far fetched when we have literal alchemy machines like the converter

[leaden turret]

how do you think respawn works

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup. If you are going to "automate Engineers", might as well do it with the best one possible.

[hybrid nymph]

Engineer: NO! You're ugly!

[clear mesa]

the same way it does in every other game, MAGIC

[trail folio]

start a save with me

[hybrid nymph]

sure, if I can find time with my busy schedule

[clear mesa]

just set up a DS if you're able to

[trail folio]

dou not have time rigtht now

[hybrid nymph]

I take 16 credits, have a job that I work 20-30 hours a week, friends I see every saturday, and a fiance

I wish I had time

[trail folio]

i work 50 hours a week and still have time

[hybrid nymph]

oh I see

touche

[clear mesa]

again...in these situations setting up a dedicated server is usually the best bet

gonna be a pain in the ass otherwise

[hybrid nymph]

true dat

I still can't believe I got banned from the offical Yugioh discord server lol

I said" META players and Konami's idiot corporate executives are fully to blame for the reason the game is so broken and unplayable."

oooh the admins didn't like that lol

I am going to try to make time tomorrow night for this game

I really want to get back into it

[mortal ginkgo]

what surprises me is that you said you can't believe it, while you simply insulted the higher ups and players and expected to be not banned.

If I said "lol this discords mods are beep and this game is beep and you are beep lol", I might be banned too.

Thats like.. simple logic. I kek at you.

[leaden turret]

banned sent to the shadow realm

[humble osprey]

i love it when a player is an acutal engineer irl

[hybrid nymph]

I'm not an enginner, but one of my friends is

MS in Engineering

I have a BS in: philosophy, political science, and economics

For work, I'm an English tutor at my college

[leaden turret]

Satisfactory is Pioneers, not Engineers;

Engineers can't build up

[hybrid nymph]

He also has his BS in computer science

He makes minecraft mods

He is is one of the devs on the Thermal Expansion mod

[humble osprey]

thats so cool

im premed

[hybrid nymph]

indeed he's very intelligent

so am I lol

I don't like to brag but I'm in the top 2% of IQs of Americans

which is probably why I like this game, because I do excessive mathmatics for it

[steady cedar]

Would be impressive if the other 98% didn't have below average IQ /j

[hybrid nymph]

If I find a coal source, I always setup another coal plant to make compacted coal for more turbofuel or I just use it for more coal generators

I currently have 100 coal generators

just for buffer power incase if I run out of turbofuel so my power grid doesn't go offline

and I have 36 backup batteries

so how many of you speak a second language?

[zenith pecan]

I kinda have half a second language, so much for me to learn.

[hybrid nymph]

true dat, lol I blame Republicans for that one lol

I'm an intermeadeate speaker of German

[zenith pecan]

More a beginner speaker of русский

[hybrid nymph]

Ich heißen Revan, woher komme du?

[steady cedar]

This kinda of conversation might fit #off-topic-general

[hybrid nymph]

true

[zenith pecan]

Да

[hybrid nymph]

Auf welcher Stufe befindest du dich?

[zenith pecan]

Right, now back onto satisfactory, and I hope to hell my oil platform design doesn't fail miserably, I'm about to online one with dread.

[hybrid nymph]

Wo haben Sie Ihr Öl gelagert?

okay okay I'll stop

[zenith pecan]

I just feel uneasy about the rubber/plastic loop thats inherent to its design.

[hybrid nymph]

true that

I amke too much palstic and rubber

then my oil production stops because I get too much heavy oil resedue

[zenith pecan]

My overall plan is likely insane, plan is to take up the whole spire coast with 23 platforms, 4 are build, I just powered one to see what will happen.

[hybrid nymph]

is there any good way to do stuff with heavyu oil resedue?

[zenith pecan]

Here's a quick look at those four platforms and the causeway bringing oil #design-and-architecture message

[zenith pecan]

The first refineries on those platforms produce heavy oil residue from the off, which is then reprocessed into fuel, plastics, rubber, yay loops, and well more plastic.

Hmm, the output is proper inconsistant.

Might just be startup time due to the manifolds in the confined spaces but man these things worry me.

[hybrid nymph]

I have so much damn palstic and rubber that I'm just seinking it

[zenith pecan]

I have some large scale plans that will eat a lot of plastic, that's why the entire spire coast will be processed and shipped to the dunes.

[hybrid nymph]

where are the dunes?

[zenith pecan]

Err, the platform is supposed to produce 425, the output belt into the temporary sink is showing 455.

I did make one mistake, the modular design doesn't have a power switch to shut it down, whoops.

I'll leave it running all day and see what happens, if it seems to have wound up alright then I'll online the other three that are in a complete state 🙂

[hybrid nymph]

[zenith pecan]

Then get back to construction, another 19 need built.

[hybrid nymph]

am I just dumb for making ue of every coal vein I find and setting up tons of coal generators?

[zenith pecan]

I still wish there was an old victorian brick/roof tile set though for the truly retro steampunk constructs.

[zenith pecan]

Using all the coal, no, the generators though are transitory, you'll have a way better use for the coal with later tech for power taking over.

But having a good amount of coal plants will make transitioning to one of the oil sources a lot easier as you'll need to boot up the refineries.

[twin parcel]

What do u think of this road?

[mortal ginkgo]

hmmm..

[zenith pecan]

Do you have a link to the #screenshots or post in #design-and-architecture , its where you can put images.

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

That is proper wide, do you have a plan for corners and/or curves.

[twin parcel]

havent finished yet

[floral trellis]

might i suggest a hidden level, to move some pipes or belts inside at your discretion?

[twin parcel]

so build higher roads ?

[zenith pecan]

You don't need to hide them per-se but if you leave space under the road deck, you can suspend all sorts of infrastructure underneath it with room for expansion, if you aren't opposed to having the road way elevated.

[floral trellis]

like raise it by 2 m or so, then make a concrete second floor with some upside ramps to make a nice beveled underlayer

[twin parcel]

most probably the roads will be elevated because the desetrt dune aint flat either

[twin parcel]

how tall is one small concrete beam?

[floral trellis]

as in widht? id guess 0.25

[twin parcel]

height

why everyone reacted railway track ? i havent even unlocked them yet lol .

bruh

[floral trellis]

one other suggestion i have for your road. swap the power pole with two lights, one for either road side

[hybrid nymph]

Gorgeous, that's a work of art

[floral trellis]

you can connect your power between them just the same

[hybrid nymph]

I'm nowhere near that creative with aestetics, here i am at tier 8 and my factory is still half done lol

you know, I might actually hop on the game right now and just finish building the aestetics of the factory

yeah I'm going to do that

[zenith pecan]

I'm still stress testing one of the platforms I spend two days designing, man it has a slow as hell ramp up time.

[twin parcel]

i suck at functionality but good at aesthethics , stuck at phase 2 spaceship

[hybrid nymph]

want to hop on my game and help?

we can help eachother, I am great at functionality

I suck at building, ahh you're still on tier 4

[twin parcel]

yeap

[floral trellis]

if i look at my projects, i seem to be of the school of form follows function

#screenshots message like my power pyramid here

[gloomy tusk]

That’s sick

[hybrid nymph]

what number playthrough is this for you?

[twin parcel]

first time

[zenith pecan]

What sort of power generation are you using, how much power?

[floral trellis]

at that stage it was turbofuel. i recently upgraded it to rocketfuel, and it makes about 130k. i also have 40 NPP, several geysers, 1 APA, and like 32 coal gens

[zenith pecan]

I built upwards when I got rocket fuel, since the fuel itself is a gas, no worries about lift, so I went with towers.

[floral trellis]

however, i need more power for my current project (who knew 12 hyperdrives before slooping would be power hungry)

so now im working on turning the blue crater into a 550k rocket power plant

[zenith pecan]

This is my rocket fuel plant #design-and-architecture message

[hybrid nymph]

you'll love the game, trust me you'll get better as you play more

[floral trellis]

noice. i calculated i need about 900 250% generators, and i wanted to do a giant floating diamond thing above the lake.
think a bit that no mans sky artwork

[zenith pecan]

This is the power output #design-and-architecture message

[hybrid nymph]

yo @twin parcel hop in my game, what's your steam name?

[floral trellis]

how much oil did you use for that 1.1M? looks like you used more than the 2550 in the crater

[zenith pecan]

I will begin again on nuclear once I have other projects completed.

[hybrid nymph]

I want you to help me with aestetics

[humble osprey]

can i post youtube links here

[zenith pecan]

Keep in mind the support tower amplifies output as well, as alien power augs, all the generators are clocked at 240% which rounds rocket fuel consumption per generator to 10.

[humble osprey]

sorry didnt mean to reply to u

[zenith pecan]

Even at that, the facility is anything but compact.

[sterile blade]

Yes you can.
Just try and see, worst case scenario your message gets automatically deleted and you get signalled to a mod who will review wether to ban you or not
||And yes, the last part is completely made up||

[floral trellis]

yeah, im not gonna be able to rely much on alien power augs.

[humble osprey]

i posted it in the math channel cuz i felt it was appropriate cuz its about load balancers

[zenith pecan]

The power station is large enough that is can be seen from the opposite side of the map #design-and-architecture message 🤣

[floral trellis]

my current project for ||50 biosculpter, 50 ai-expansion, 12 hyperdrives, all of which slooped to double|| will consume most of my sloops

[zenith pecan]

Most of my sloops went to power, since everything else I can clock and build more of, I wanted power to be something I stopped caring about and just went full ham.

When I get to using all the maps uranium, my total power output will go to sick levels.

[floral trellis]

did you feed your APAs with matrixes?

[zenith pecan]

I tried, it was a disaster due to poor construction and my patience levels at te time.

Right now my attention is in the spire coast, building 23 platforms to process all of the regions oil.

[twin parcel]

check dms

[zenith pecan]

All of it.

Got one platform actually online running a stress test.

[floral trellis]

i just managed to fit in my diluted fuel blenders for the blue crater, and my heavy oil refiners. some work to be had there still

[zenith pecan]

This is one of the platforms actually running #design-and-architecture message

[zenith pecan]

The towers actually sit on the water, bottom floor, water extractors, first floor, HOR production, second floor, dilute fuel blenders fed by the lower two levels, third floor, nitro rocket, all floors above, all generators.

Space constraints aren't a big consideration, which is why each tower is approx half a mile tall.

[floral trellis]

i envision my production kinda circling the crater, and then shipped to above the lake for burning

[zenith pecan]

All the fuel lines run up a section of each tower through a deliberate cutout that I could consider its spine.

[floral trellis]

my NPPs have such a spine. getting the water up there was a pain and a half

[zenith pecan]

The vid I linked starts at the water extractors before touring the outside of the towers proper, the nearby foundry, resin recycler & support tower.

[zenith pecan]

My old reactor hall could offer you some inspiration then, #satisfactory-experimental message , you can see here I made my water as simple as possible, and radiation controlled to the point where no iodine needed.

The reactor building sat on the water, each reactor had its own water extractors directly below it, no real complex plumbing needed.

[gentle stratus]

do someone knows any good baoxite veins?

[steady cedar]

Depends on if you want anything else with it
You can use the online interactive map to see things yourself to

[toxic lichen]

whats a good goal
For steel production stuff?

yk like the beams
encased pipes
all that jazz

[mortal ginkgo]

200/min pipe 100/beam 50/encased

[toxic lichen]

and thats before or after oil e'-e'

[mortal ginkgo]

before

[toxic lichen]

hmmmm
300 coal and iron pm

if i use the iron recipe
makes it 800 iron pm

alr recipe makes it 200/200
hmmmmm

i understand it now

[wanton cloud]

Is packaged biofuel better than just solid biofuel?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[wanton cloud]

nice

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[wanton cloud]

nice

[mortal ginkgo]

no

[crystal apex]

anyone non tryhards wanna go play on a new save? pc

[toxic lichen]

whats tryhard-esque about efficiency ;-;

[crystal apex]

huh?

[leaden turret]

save your elitism for #1201555265942724758

[crystal apex]

no one is texting in there bruh

[scenic mirage]

yoo i just found a way to make 10 HMF/min AND get 640 turbo fuel out of it

[zenith pecan]

You can go full ham on steel though, I have 4800 ingots due to byproducts from power generation 😄

[hybrid nymph]

I did a little aestetics work on my game a scanned a few hard drives

[naive pelican]

There is an ice cream in sweden called Nogger

Im not joking

[scenic mirage]

typical sweden, stupid names for things (im danish)

[scenic mirage]

🤯 whaaaaat

[glacial drum]

My rocket fuel plant makes a ton of power yet i’m tempted to go nuclear. Hmmm

[scenic mirage]

do it

[glacial drum]

I think I shall atleast attempt to after I setup my 3 tm a minute factory

Which reminds me how easy that’ll be since I already automated my radio control units

So hopefully I shall within the next 5 hours

[scenic mirage]

3 tm?

[glacial drum]

Turbomotors

I originally skipped nuclear because I figured rocket fuel would suffice atleast for some time. I’ve got 90k capacity as of rn

Should be even more if I further refined my coal power plants I setup 80 hours ago

and/or started using the compacted coal from the process of making rocket fuel and turned it into turbo fuel/burned it in coal power plants

[zenith pecan]

I still have plans on nuclear in spite of having a truly ridiculous rocket fuel power output #design-and-architecture message

[glacial drum]

I settled on a 70k~ MW setup considering my belt speed. I think my favorite thing in the game is definitely setting up power. So many alt recipes and anything that makes a byproduct can usually be further processed into more power

Fun to see just how much you can make. Plus it gives me a day without stressing over inputs and outputs of huge factories

[zenith pecan]

I'm troubleshooting teething problems in my oil processing platforms, I need to know if my current design will do as I intend before I construct 19 more of them.

I actually found a use for a prio merger in the facility basement 🤣

[twin parcel]

bruh why is it so hard to create curves on asphalt road , bruh

[scenic mirage]

is there a difference in using "any" and "any undefined" on smart splitters?

[sterile blade]

"Any" includes "overflow" and all other items selected in other filters too.
Eg: sending "X" to left and "any" to right, X would be sent both left and right

[scenic mirage]

im just sorting dna points and stuff

so like spitter remains, hog remains, etc

[spare cradle]

How wide is it?

[unkempt blade]

bruh bruh indeed

[ornate saffron]

what make asphalt more difficult then the rest?

[unkempt blade]

the world should only be right angles on the world grid the way nature intended

[ornate saffron]

curves are great for cart trick though

@unkempt blade do a cart trick while you impress us with a card trick. then shit yourself mid air, we call that a SHART trick

[unkempt blade]

you do right angles for foundations and curve the inside with barriers 🧠

[forest dew]

Hey

Does anyone know how to take down the tree things that spit out that green steam stuff, that kills you

[toxic lichen]

fart rocks

can blow em up with nobelisks or explosive rebar

[forest dew]

Fart rocks?!

[toxic lichen]

yur

[forest dew]

haha is that their offical name?

[toxic lichen]

idk about official
but the name i was given

[forest dew]

Okay, I dont have either of them things yet, just discovered quartz

[toxic lichen]

js a little sulfur and coal to make nobelisks
maybe some iron

you have the MAM unclocked yet?

[forest dew]

Yeah got the MAM

[sterile blade]

!wikisearch fart+rock

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fart+rock

[toxic lichen]

then its down the sulfur tree

[forest dew]

Oh thank you

[sterile blade]

The "Gas Pillar" page does show up in the results, BTW...

[forest dew]

ive got a 4 death crates in the middle of them alll after my search for oil

[lost rapids]

👀

[thorn spear]

Guys if I buy satisfactory on ps5 amd then on pc can I connect my acc on ps5 pc?

[forest dew]

No, i dont believe you can

[wanton cloud]

genuinely why do catwalks not have an ending piece with rails on 3 sides

[jaunty jewel]

excellent question

[wanton cloud]

Does it have an answer?

[jaunty jewel]

not that i know

i think you can stack 2 corner ones on top of each other to make one but i dont know if theres texture overlap issues on the catwalk itself

[ornate saffron]

cant you just put a railing on the end of the one that has two rails?

[wanton cloud]

YOU CAN?

[jaunty jewel]

or that yeah

[ornate saffron]

try and let us know

[wanton cloud]

aight give me a sec

[jaunty jewel]

it would make more sense for it to just exist but im 90% sure thats a workaround

again idk if theres texture clipping/overlap issues though

[wanton cloud]

you can.

[jaunty jewel]

if there isnt then thats great

[ornate saffron]

ive been playing jank open world sandbox games so long i dont even wish for stuff like that anymore. i just make it work lol

[half atlas]

You know I kinda thought about this

If there is petrolium coke then why not LPG?

[tall lantern]

isn't that just Fuel

[scenic mirage]

LPG?

[half atlas]

Liquefied Petroleum Gas

Liquified

Liquided

[pastel surge]

I dont believe so

[pastel surge]

Well isn't LPG just natural gas thats been turned into a liquid

[south sinew]

no

[half atlas]

I mean it's a general term, it's a HC gas for sure but not the same

[south sinew]

really the game is overall just not very specific on the chemistry of the hydrocarbons and that's fine

[half atlas]

Okay but putting gas in the pipelines

[ornate saffron]

the game puts both liquids and gases in pipes

[half atlas]

Not enough clearly

Where's my ozone layer destroying vapors and liquids

[ornate saffron]

its just not what the game focuses on. and thats okay. I come for logistics and factory building not for the errosion of a biosphere

i got that IRL

[half atlas]

Ecoterrorism doesn't start with many power generators and production lines. It starts from making things that suck the green into a dull grey color

[pastel surge]

LMAO

[crude holly]

How much overhead wattage do you need to do most things?

Like an end game save it your not making crazy insane factories. Like 50k-250k?

[scenic mirage]

mk3 miners are after phase 3 right

[ornate saffron]

250000mw is what I had on my first completion. I think I used 150000mw of it.

[ornate saffron]

After phase 3 is technically correct

[scenic mirage]

idk why i said it like that

but its early phase 4 right?

[ornate saffron]

no i think its phase 5

sometime after turbo motors

tier 8

[scenic mirage]

aw damn

[ornate saffron]

they are a massive step up in logistics. the second i hit phase 5 i aim for 100m of mk6 belts a minute as ill be spamming that shit

mk3 miners are useless without mk6 belts

[merry mountain]

Does anyone know when DevStreams will start again? It seems like it's been ages.

[torn lynx]

ok, im about to find out if you fall from a certain height is water becoems concrete

[ornate saffron]

it doesnt

[torn lynx]

i somehow hit the only rock on the way down

[ornate saffron]

i have had instances where i landed on the ground under the water and the game broke thinking the water that broke my fall no longer existed. allowing e to build and do all the non water related things

[torn lynx]

hey, can i hook all coal generators to the same powerline to increase howm uich electricity is has?

like if i hook 2 of them up to a singler power line it give it 140 wats

[ornate saffron]

yes you can hook up everythign to one power grid.

I personally like the inter connection between facilities to be a simple single line this was i can disconnect it easily if required

[torn lynx]

so i can add multiple generators to one power grid?

[ornate saffron]

the simplest way is to link each coal generator to its own power pole then chain all the poles together

[shadow talon]

Do poles have a power output limit?

[ornate saffron]

no only connection limits. the mk1 pole can have four connections while the mark 2 allows 7

[torn lynx]

ok, so doing that would add all their power together in one massive power grid

[ornate saffron]

yes sir, connect you bio generators too

Fun fact Bio generators is the only power source thatll turn itself off if not needed.

For example if your coal setup gives you 1500mw and you only need 1000mw to run all your machines the biogenerators will turn themselves to standby so they will not waste biomass

[shadow talon]

Or make a startup power like a geothermal generator to startup the system

[torn lynx]

wait, so i can jsut make a massive area jsut ofr power to all my factories?

[ornate saffron]

yes sir this is the general way to do things late game. I have a facility with 2000 plus fuel generators

[shadow talon]

i made a 10k battery storage

[ornate saffron]

that is a option

[shadow talon]

An expensive one

[glacial drum]

Don’t sleep on priority power switches once you get them

That’s the only power grid id have “disconnected” from the main one.

i gotta set my rocket fuel up on one

[ornate saffron]

i prefer to segregate my power grid with power priority switches. this way i can set the facilities i never want to black start as priority one so i never have to black start my rocket fuel. then put low priority systems like my steel factory last. If i go over my power consumption limits the system will turn off my steel factory and give me a notifacation. allowing me to build out more power with out struggling to power it

[glacial drum]

I’ll use a priority switch and then a specific conveyer blueprint with power included to chain power out to any node miners.

Make sure if you use a priority switch that EVERY piece of the grid you want prioritized is connected off the switch

[ornate saffron]

its also nive to be able to remotely turn on and off sections of your grid

@glacial drum how goes nuclear

[glacial drum]

Another reason I’d say include atleast a mk1 power pole/outlet on any transport type blueprint

Ah by the next 5 hours I meant next 5 when I’m able to play. It’ll be a bit before then

Although I may plan some now as I’ve got free time.

Our wifi is down so nothing else to do

Hoping my wifi at home didn’t die out but I won’t need it to play.

I’ll check when I actually head home.

[ornate saffron]

my eyes are in low service mode for three weeks so i can only type and hang out lol

[crude holly]

Okay thank you just wondering because I’ve seen some of these videos of people factories and they seem insanely power demanding but also they are producing way over kill for items

[glacial drum]

Power is relatively simple if not going nuclear.

Rocket fuel off a pure oil node I think can provide 140k MW?

If you use every bit of it.

My current power factory uses half of it due to my mk5 belts.

[ornate saffron]

ya, more parts per minute means less time to accumulate parts. its not so bad when you have stuff to do. like a single assemble at 2 smart plates a minute is fine you only need 4300 to see credits so you can have them all by the time you are 60 hours in

[quasi warren]

I still need to know how to build all the refineries i need for somethn like this

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message

My setup

[ornate saffron]

mark 2 blueprinter fits 4 fuel refineries. you can over clock them to reduce the quantity needed

[glacial drum]

I used nitro rocket fuel.

[crude holly]

Yeah that’s the thing I was really worried about. Seeing some people with these insanely overkill setups but then I got to remember their YouTubers/Content creators so they do more for the views

[glacial drum]

Tbh I’d avoid overclocking anything but the generators (assuming you want the most power output)

[torn lynx]

dang, i may want to expirament with that, thank you!

[quasi warren]

I like overclocking ngl. As you can tell I play modded. So sometimes overclocking is absolutely necessary

[glacial drum]

Whenever you make power systems you should overclock gens when possible I’d say. Lessens space taken.

The only negative is ofc they use more a minute.

depends on if you want to do more or less piping/belting.

[ornate saffron]

lets use nitro rocket fuel as a example. a fuel generator clocked at 240% uses 10 rocket fuel a minute if your goal is to use 600 oil a minute thats 2400 rocket fuel a minute.

so its 240 generators at 240%

[glacial drum]

It also saves materials to overclock generators.

Some of my older factories still need remaking. I’m making 5 motors a minute still.

[ornate saffron]

yes it saves on the building cost

[glacial drum]

And I really messed up in older factory building too. I’d setup a ddu on one side of a splitter, 5 tall storage on another, and then a sink on the final input set to overflow.

Gotta go back and instead connect those storage containers to the ddu

In the motor factory I especially made a mistake not doing that. Went from having max motors in my ddu to getting 5 more/min when i needed 3k~

[ornate saffron]

lol

this run i just made a dedicated factory for 10/min stators, rotors, and motors. each filling a indutrial storage unit that feed two Dimensional depots

[torn lynx]

alright, time to see how dangeroud thge pink forest is

[ornate saffron]

be mindful of rads

[glacial drum]

Yea I made an iron factory and tore it down when I got mk 3 miners. It makes a lot more now

[torn lynx]

jsut triyng to take a shortcut back home, i have like 7 blue 6 yuellow ajnd one purple slug on me

[regal helm]

So I set up a coal power plant (8 smoke stacks, 3 pumps). Fixed my fluid issue but I def am not pumping enough coal in to keep all 8 running. I have a miner mk1 on the coal node; will a mk2 resolve this or do I need to bring in more coal from another node?

[glacial drum]

Everything basic from iron. Just doesn’t make motors or stators. Think I’ll make a new one soon for those

I should be able to half my iron use at my old motor factory as my miners have been upgraded since then. Which should give me a full normal node of use

[torn lynx]

another yellow slug...if i learned anythign thjat means something is aobut to assault me

nevermind i need a bomb

[ornate saffron]

i dont like tearing down. ill upgrade the miner shove a smart splitter in front and shunt the new excess ore into a new facility

[glacial drum]

The entire facility was outdated and half running anyways. I had already upgraded one miner and haphazardly connected one to a different factory for HMF it was all a mess.

[torn lynx]

anopthery ellow

[glacial drum]

Entire place needed torn down.

[torn lynx]

what the hell is that

[ornate saffron]

HMF?

[torn lynx]

its a spider htign but bigger

[ornate saffron]

step two of the cubes to hell lol

[ornate saffron]

if it was radioactive it was a alpha spider if non radioactive a simple beta

[quasi warren]

I thought green spooder was gassy

Not radioactive

[sinful roost]

The green rocks look so pretty but when I try to touch them my skin melts 🙁

[ornate saffron]

no clue. i dont let it get close i hover above and shoot it lol

[quasi warren]

Yea

[ornate saffron]

those things creep me out lol

[quasi warren]

Its gassy. Not radioactive. I fought one melee before

[torn lynx]

oh dude, i foudn a lake with 2 coal vien next to and adn they are nexst to eaachother

[ornate saffron]

likely 4 are there

thats likely coal lake. where most ppl put there first coal generation facility

[torn lynx]

how long ago did the full release come out for this game?

[compact flicker]

I know im a little late but I don't seen an answer to this

A mk2 miner has x2 the output of a mk1

Buuut 8 coal generators only needs 120 coal/min, you sure your issue is the amount of coal?

[ornate saffron]

september 2024

[drowsy kelp]

Fair warning, a standard foundation is an 8 meter square, those big spiders can jump over 50 meters in any direction, including up

[glacial drum]

Their issue may be the water. If not setup pretty specifically 3 pumps isn’t enough for 8 generators due to the 300 limit of mk 1 pipes.

[torn lynx]

wish i elarned that sooner

i got jumped

[glacial drum]

But yea assuming it is the coal then an upgrade to the miner/overclocking it should solve the issue

[glacial drum]

-it is enough however the pipes aren’t

[wanton cloud]

Guys how long of a route can a tractor pass without refueling? Coal as fuel

[drowsy kelp]

By how many

[torn lynx]

1

[glacial drum]

It would entirely depend on the route.

[warm burrow]

i have 8 coal power plants with a mk2 normal coal miner making 120 coal per minute but some of the power plants dont have enough coal

[quasi warren]

I was once jumped by 3 stingers

[weary condor]

One way to find out🤷

[quasi warren]

Worst. Situation. Ever.