satisfactory

[cyan leaf]

Ohh

[dense violet]

it's very common yes

a lot of times people design a drone system so that a lot of drones stop off in one location so you only need 1 other drone to fuel all of them - but that's not mandatory

drones will stop at their port until they can fully unload, so even if they are delivering a tiny amount of fuel they'll make trips very infrequently

[fluid crow]

You got to make some

I got just got intentionally ran over by a truck for the achievement

pizza seems pretty world wide

[real shale]

I am hyped for 1.2

[lapis shadow]

Is there no way to freeze the power feedback graph? Occasionally I'd like to be able to look at certain points on the graph but it's very difficult with it constantly updating

[lapis shadow]

Is there a way to get that achievement solo?

[fluid crow]

yea just automate the truck and take off your hover pack and stuff

[lapis shadow]

oh yeah that was a silly question

[feral jay]

Let't take my mind off my broken car and Catherine O'Hara's death for a while. Fluids need work, and trucks suck. Amirite?

She was Canadian, and so am I

(see flag in username)

No fuck you I'm Canadian and therefore everything wrong with Canada is also wrong with me

Well, have you looked up Catherine O'Hara's worl?

She was one of our Greats

Dude we already have it, we've had three feet of snow in the last two weeks and it's -30°C

Like, it's Fallout territory

[sick falcon]

i got that achievement entirely naturally because my friend cannot be trusted with vehicles

[lapis shadow]

Anybody know?

[sick falcon]

i dont think so

[rain hollow]

What's the weird forest area where all the trees look like pine cones?

[sick falcon]

northern forest?

[rain hollow]

Probably, i don't know

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message

these?

[rain hollow]

Yes

[fluid crow]

I only used factory carts

[rain hollow]

Dunes desert is east of there right?

[fluid crow]

so I never got ran over

[dense violet]

apart from maybe mods? unlikely

[sick falcon]

northeast yea

[rain hollow]

Good because I'm still in the process of moving

I'm in the journey phase

[sick falcon]

my lizard dog just gave me a purple slug and then 10 turbomotors

i love him

[rain hollow]

How do you tame them?

[sick falcon]

get ones attention, and as it backs away place a single paleberry on the ground and back away from it

itll walk up to it, eat it, and become your friend

[rain hollow]

Makes sense

[sick falcon]

and then you need to trap it in a box forever because it will clip through the map and fall forever if you dont

is 10 fused frames and 10 turbomotors/min a good target?

[granite basalt]

mythbuster
@mortal ginkgo is correct.
if you driveby the station when record it doesn't show the pause sign yet. if you complete the record then it'll appeare at every station passed by
delete signs at unwanted station then there will be no more unwanted load/unload

[short fiber]

What is this feeling...is it pride. Something that would have taken up half my platform I managed to fit in a space a quarter of the size?

It made me proud? KNOWLEDGE

[sick falcon]

can dogs give elevator parts

[gloomy tusk]

rarest thing i got was turbo motors

[sweet light]

Wait until it gives you uranium waste

[sick falcon]

im beating it to death

[zealous urchin]

maturing is realizing alclad casing into heat exchanger gives u 25% more heatsinks than alclad sheet into heat exchanger

[fluid crow]

if only lizard doggos could be automated like factory carts

[mortal ginkgo]

that aint happening

[sick falcon]

is 10 turbomotors and 10 fused frames a minute enough to get me through phase 4

[mortal ginkgo]

sounds cool

[versed cosmos]

yea

[hollow hemlock]

1 per hour is enough, it's a question of how long do you want to wait 😁

[short fiber]

Mwahahahah, now I have unlocked something cursed. Almost taboo. I have access to...THE Y AXIS

[stone python]

but..why?

[short fiber]

Because.... Efficiency

Now my factory won't juts be wide. It will be tall

[sick falcon]

i kind of want to try a no y axis playthrough

[short fiber]

Bro finna make THE SLAB

[hollow hemlock]

I have, for the first time in several weeks, managed to put the grey power line above the blue power line on the power graph. 🥳

[leaden matrix]

Man, does anyone else get into the depressing cycle of playing the game everyday all day for a week then not touching it for like 2 months😭

[leaden matrix]

You will enjoy this for 2 minutes </3

[pastel surge]

Finally made it into phase 3

Probably could've done it quicker but power was a hassle

[pastel surge]

💀

Thats how mine always is

[leaden matrix]

:0
Phase three (in my opinion) is like the biggest turning point in the whole game

It took me roughly the same time as phase 1&2 combined + a little more (to finish it)

[pastel surge]

Wdym for the first time🥀

[fast finch]

not sure why my train is saying station unreacheable when i just manually drove the train myself there. i cannot put it in auto mode. i have 2 locomotives in eachside facing the oposite way, plz help

[hollow hemlock]

Yes well, I may have a couple of slooped up fully sharded particle accelerators out there, thankfully not running very often

station backwards, signals funky, there's a few reasons that can happen

[pastel surge]

I basically just all day today, getting power and setting up versatile frameworks

And installed hypertubes, what a life saver🥀

[leaden matrix]

Slide hop >

I only really use hypertubes for cannons tbh

Though they are fun

[hollow hemlock]

my first placement of a cannon on this round wasn't a lifesaver - it promptly launched me all the way out of the map

[leaden matrix]

Remember to take your time! :>
Overproducing early makes things super easier later

[leaden matrix]

Gotta be careful with them :>

(And maybe turn on keep inventory for your first couple of tries)

[hollow hemlock]

Yeah I always run with that because of an unfortunate incident a while ago where some harddrives went missing

[sleek halo]

Guys who gives plutonium bar to drones?

[twin parcel]

uh guys , does anyone know why its 8 coal generator set up? why its limit to 8? what if i want to make it to 10 or something and what things i should consider?

[sleek halo]

I shoudlnt have limit

[twin parcel]

most basic setup is 8 , but i dont know how expand them

and what maths i need to consider

[sleek halo]

Water and coal

Like do u have enough to add more

[sick falcon]

it took me significantly longer than phase 1 and 2 combined to finish phase 3

and it’s taken significantly longer than 1 2 and 3 combined for phase 4 and i’m not even done yet 😭

[twin parcel]

uh there is two normal coal nodes and im using mk2 miner . #screenshots

[hollow hemlock]

trucks too

[summer coral]

mmm... fuel is gonna kill my joy for this game..

[fluid crow]

fuel?

[summer coral]

time to find the guy who wanted to help but i refused help from cause i thought i had it fixed :D

[summer coral]

yes, specifically this fuel powerplant

[sterile blade]

... Don't to it?

[summer coral]

unfortunately im not advanced enough in the game for nuclear but too advanced for coal

[sleek halo]

Yh its a good place

[hollow hemlock]

go with fuel generators, fuel gets big

[sterile blade]

Just upgrade your Bio Burners to Fuel Generators running on Biofuel
Easy peasy, really...

[pastel surge]

Thats what im trying to do

[summer coral]

atp im considering using fuel containers to transport fluids from the refineries to the generators and from the extractors to the refineries

[sterile blade]

Jokes aside, if you do happen to have tons of Biomass aviable, liquid biofuel may be more fun than the normal Fuel chain to play with ^^

[hollow hemlock]

only takes a handful of sloops to really embiggen your liquid biofuel stores too

[sterile blade]

Doesn't sound like a convenient logistic setup, but it definetly can make things more interesting for you

[summer coral]

okay so ADA is stealing oil out of the pipes and feeding me false throughputs causing a couple refineries to starve causing a couple power generators to starve, only logical solution to this

[sterile blade]

Totally not an issue in flow control

[summer coral]

from what i can tell shes taking about 5 cubic meters a minute of oil..

im just gonna make a post cause this is so complex idk where to begin

[granite basalt]

Hi, I'm just curious how you guys set goal targets for the MEGA project.

I finished 2 playthroughs a while ago, both on dedicated servers with my friends.
We hosted another one about 2 months ago, but we lost interest after finishing phase 3. One said the hard part was solving logistics, but we'd already known out how it works—and I build the train system very well, so it's not an issue anymore. Agreed.

So I started another single-player world mostly to grab the other Steam achievements.
It's tougher without AFK resource farming like on a dedicated server.
Back then, we'd slap together some no-so-efficient machine bases, get to sleep → work → and when we got back, the containers were overflowing, ready to feed into the space elevator.

But I've solved that now, and I'm at the end of phase 3 with not much left to do.

[formal thicket]

So uh

Say you followed a guide for a 4x4 blueprint factory, and the guidemaker was a bit stupid and so now your entire blueprint is an extra 1m higher than it needs to be since you added a 1m foundation to the bottom of the whole thing when you started. Is there an easy way to just get rid of the bottom foundation and essentially move the whole thing down 1m?

[granite basalt]

load it again in the blueprint
delete the 1m foundation
save it

I'm not sure if you will need to move thing down 1m everytime you build it later

[hollow hemlock]

then clear the designer, pop the blueprint into the designer again (dont load it), hit H to freeze it, then pagedown to nudge it down a notch, then save again

[formal thicket]

it keeps saying its overlapping the designer

despite clearly fitting in the other designer to be saved as a bp

[sterile blade]

Can't you just load it inside (not building it inside)?

[formal thicket]

wdym?

If I load it inside using the blueprint designer itself its still 1m off the ground

[granite basalt]

you deleted the foundation right ?

[formal thicket]

yes

[granite basalt]

what if you build it outside ?

*use the blueprint to build outside

[formal thicket]

I can use the blueprint outside and manually page down it every time yes

But I want to make it default to the right height

but for some reason I can't manually print it into the designer

despite it clearly fitting well enough to be saved as a blueprint

[hollow hemlock]

advance to the next tier to get the 5x5 designer and fix it there

[formal thicket]

is it bugging out because it has walls?

I'm going to try just deleting the walls and then doing it again

[hollow hemlock]

well check where it is overlapping, is it the height or the edges

[granite basalt]

oh, just curious
I have an idea that may work
Build your 4x4bp outside
build the blueprint designer, H to hologram it and nudge it to place fit your 4x4bp

[formal thicket]

it dont tell me that

I wanted to try that actually

I'll give that a shot after my wall theory

[granite basalt]

i can confirm that bc of the wall

experienced it myself

[formal thicket]

It was indeed the walls

Plx fix in 1.2 i beg

testing the other idea now

No dice

Seems to still be considered encroaching object clearance

shame

Now I got to delete this whole damn thing

[hollow hemlock]

maybe chop the edges off it and rebuild it once you get it to appear in the designer

[formal thicket]

I juts deleted the walls and saved that as a separate one

[granite basalt]

ja, just chop the wall off

[formal thicket]

so I'll just redo the walls

I meant dismantle the bp I just built to test that theory

not delete the bp itself

Took me way too long to build that

Followed a guide by one of those dudes that just wants you to pay for patreon to get the bp outright

So he skipped through so much of it and changed things midway without showing

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Placing the bp inside the bp designer doesnt work at all actually

It wont recognize the newly placed bp as part of the bp you're designing

this is unfortunate

Guess I do just have to manually nudge it down

ugh

[toxic lichen]

yk i thought the jet pack would continuously drain fuel

not like
1 at a time
go back onto ground
use again

[sleek halo]

He made a statement so good that even gave him free

[toxic lichen]

huh e'-e'

oh

[sleek halo]

Btw did u know that ada tell you ai expension is the main priority

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'

[sleek halo]

[coral marsh]

I thought it would too tbh, but I found the packaged ionized, rocket and bio fuel are the best fuel options for the jet pack

[fluid crow]

liquid bio goated till you get the other ones

[formal thicket]

So apparently

If the white outline of the bp doesn't fit inside the bp designer then it will not properly sense the objects being placed in the designer

Which is a real problem if I want to nudge DOWNWARDS. Since there is literally no way for me to do so whilst keeping the white outline within bounds

No matter how big the bp designer is, it would never be possible to make it work

what a bummer

[fluid crow]

unless you want to use mods the designers a limited size

[formal thicket]

Doesnt matter what size it is

Its impossible

Mods wouldnt help unless they add a nudge option when loading bp in designer

[fluid crow]

it's 32 to 48 tall you can place stuff in that space however you like

[formal thicket]

I dont think you understand

In the 4x4 designer I accidentally build things on top of a 1m foundation

This means everything was built 1m higher

The blueprint includes that 1m of space even if I delete the foundation

So the white outline continues to exist even for that empty space

[sterile blade]

I think (iirc) the "default height" is set by the first piece of the blueprint you place.
My hypothesis is that this remains true even after that first piece is removed (and that's what's annoying you)

[formal thicket]

So if I try to place the blueprint within a designer and nudge it down 1m

It doesnt load properly and the designer doesn't register ANY of the pieces

No matter how tall the designer is, the problem will still exist

Its a fundamental problem with how they function

[coral marsh]

Honestly yea, it lasts the longest

[sterile blade]

Can get a pioneer from one side of the map to the other with just some pulselisks~

... I wish we could blueprint a stack of Pulselisks for quick travel 😆

[fluid crow]

oh I see what you're saying

[formal thicket]

its annoying that I cant place conveyor wall holes on exterior walls in a blueprint but the coveyor wall still works ;(

[coral marsh]

Granted, 1 pulse per blueprint only

[gloomy tusk]

@autumn token your insane

how did you beat the game in 17 days

[lilac bear]

If you want continuous motion like that, look into the hoverpack.

[gloomy tusk]

its this person

hows your world going

[coral marsh]

Limited to electrical fields

It'd be fun if it gained power from a resonating electromagnetic field though instead of straight from the power source. Setup like, a dome over certain areas that produces an electromagnetic field to power all devices or just the hoverpack

[toxic lichen]

very un-treeified

[crystal cedar]

i cant use my main setup now so thought il try satis on my old laptop
specs: i5-6200u
Nvidia 940mx
8gb 2133mhz
Sata drive
any hope on getting above 30fps 720p after setting priority to high and closing all background tasks?

[toxic lichen]

whats wrong with your main?

[crystal cedar]

psu fried

[toxic lichen]

oof

[fluid crow]

at least the powers supply doesn't have ram in it

[crystal cedar]

at least...

so.... no hopes?

[toxic lichen]

doubt

[fluid crow]

can't think of much besides low settings

[crystal cedar]

all minimum(the resolution scaling thingy at 80%)

wish e luck on my journey(completing phase 2)

[toxic lichen]

oh lord

[honest skiff]

Can someone give me a "for dummies" guide to coal powerplants?

[twin parcel]

uh need help on building coal plant here

[toxic lichen]

im so glad we keep our momentum ;-;

[twin parcel]

#screenshots

[toxic lichen]

where is here e'-e'

[toxic lichen]

give water
give coal

get power

[fluid crow]

you need coal and water, you probably want to bring the coal to the water

[toxic lichen]

1 extractor with 1 power shard in it can feed 4 coal gens

[pastel dawn]

• drink coffee*

[tight oak]

this will assume youre in grass field: First head south-southwest, there should be a coal node on an outcropping. belt that back to the rough area you started. there should be a little lake nearby. two water extracters, that node, should be enough for 3 plants. build 3 plants, give coal, give water, enjoy self-sustained power

[hardy yoke]

noice

[tight oak]

if youre not in grass field, same rough strat, but youre on your own for specifics

[twin parcel]

check screenshot channel

[tight oak]

is that the lil crater in grass field?

[twin parcel]

no, dessert

[white beacon]

Are there other seasonal events or just ficsmas?

[hardy yoke]

i only know ficsmas

[lilac bear]

Yea, but once you've unlocked the hover pack and the dimensional storage you should have infinite power poles.

[coral marsh]

And then your base or map, looks like a teenage boy's face going through puberty, zits everywhere

[lilac bear]

Combined with the power towers and zipline, you can make real highways to get all over the map.

[tight oak]

oh gotcha. id belt the coal off the cliff to the ocean, thenput plants on foundations above the water so you dont have to pump water very far.

[twin parcel]

i see , i didnt bring many stuff for the belt , i didnt know the cliff is this tall

[tight oak]

i mean you could pump the water up, but i really wouldnt recommend it. youll have to deal with pumps and stuff

and then youd need copper sheets for the pipes anyway so like its either belt coal to water or pipe water to coal

[hardy yoke]

belt coal to water is what I always do

[tight oak]

i suppose you might could just do the water-tower thing if you plan on piping water far...again, i really wouldnt recommend it. belt coal to water is best imo

[lilac bear]

Besides, pumps take power. And once you're dealing with oil that doesn't matter much, but when you're working with your early coal setups you really want all the power to help you.

[lilac bear]

For straight down, elevators are great.

[indigo dove]

Would y'all say dimensional depot stack limit or upload speed is more important?

[sleek halo]

Ai expension is the main priority

[fluid crow]

some what even but speed is nice when you got lots of depots down

[twin parcel]

havent unlocked them , im using ladders to move around

uh is there any advantage to overclock coal miners for more power?

there is two normal node and one impure , and im using m2 miners

[fluid crow]

you answered your own question

if you need more coal...

you probably will have all resources overclocked after a while

[tight oak]

he means the vertical conveyor belts. theyre called lifts in the game

you should have them unlocked up to whatever mk belt you have unlocked

[toxic lichen]

collecting HDDs
very fun

waiting for MAM to scan
not very fun

i have 9 i need to scan now ;-;

yk

shut up

(im upset i didnt think of that)

[tight oak]

i wouldnt worry about overclocking this early, you shouldnt need it. iirc, coal generators need 15/m, and a mk2 on impure should yield 60/m.

[fluid crow]

I put them in there all the time, wish I could automate that

still have 31 to go

[twin parcel]

oh i want to go big on coal production plant so i dont have worry again about power later]

[toxic lichen]

mk2 on a impure = 4 gens
normal = 8
pure = 16

[twin parcel]

i see

[toxic lichen]

and thats without
overclocks

[twin parcel]

oh dam

[toxic lichen]

pure node with mk2 maxes out at like
600 right?

which is
40 gens?

[fluid crow]

really only has to get you though to oil

[tight oak]

i dont think big beautiful coal would take you that far...especially when you start needing it for other things

[gloomy tusk]

@astral goblet i stole your wallpaper

[tight oak]

idk how new you are but fuel is much better, turbofuel is amazing and then rocket fuel actually can melt steel beams so

[twin parcel]

i see , so 8 or 16 is enough?

[fluid crow]

coal is nice to start using for other things

[toxic lichen]

if you follow that

you can also consider

1 water extractor with 1 power shard in it (150% overclock)

can support 4 coal gens

[tight oak]

8 should be fine. i think thats about how many i made through the whole thing before switching to fuel

[toxic lichen]

you still speaking for the trees?

[toxic lichen]

ive got 16 rn
cause go big or go home

[tight oak]

i have 144 rocket fuel gens at 150% clock speed....is that big enough for ya?

[toxic lichen]

moar

[tight oak]

it got me through until i made my 350 or so nuclear reactors

[toxic lichen]

rookie numbers

[tight oak]

youre correct but in my defence, it was my first playthrough

[toxic lichen]

in my defense

im still on my first play through

[tight oak]

and i have a quad core intel i5 co i cant go TOO crazy

[twin parcel]

chill guys , im not gonna make mega factory , just modular ones that does the job

[tight oak]

and 16gb ram? idk its like a 15 year old computer at this point xD

[toxic lichen]

turn world into 1 big factory or youre doing it wrong
smh

wasted space is inefficient
use the space ;-;

use the space under the space

[twin parcel]

24 gb ddr5

[tight oak]

ADA would be very displesed with your inefficiencies

[cyan leaf]

I hate trains

[tight oak]

im a software guy idk what that means other than you have 24gb of ram

[toxic lichen]

use the space in the space thats in the space in the space in the donut in the space within the space within a space

[tight oak]

CHOO CHOO, MOTHER*****

[twin parcel]

i just gonna build trains to fix those issues

[tight oak]

but like swaggie said

all that wasted space

[fluid crow]

my sushi train made my life so much easier

[tight oak]

and the space above the space and below the space and under the space

and IN space?

[fluid crow]

max altitude is pretty high

[tight oak]

you can actually break above it

[fluid crow]

heal your way through the kill zone?

[tight oak]

ill have to find it, some doug guy on reddit made a space base

and he can angle things, like put machines upside down or sideways....something about projectiles? idk

[twin parcel]

eh im gonna be the one guy make trains pass through middle of factories , and make train line stack vertically like complicated real life high ways

cuz why not?

[tight oak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1qekubk/space_elevators_a_short_film_by_doug/

peak efficiency

[tight oak]

i just build a bunch of sky-monorails like a psychopath. all trains go point a to point b

except Uranium Fever

[twin parcel]

uh when do i unlock mk3 miners?

[tight oak]

He does a sky-teardrop

[tight oak]

super late

[twin parcel]

bruh

[tight oak]

its after/with turbo motors cause you need fused modular frames, turbo motors and like....idk computers or something? i dont remember off the top of my head

lmao radio control mods were something that i put off for way too long because i never went and utilized quartz until i had to

but once i did that i was able to just slap my productions togethr

and then i go take a break and smoke while my machines do their thing lmao

i mean thats definitely what i do

well not necessarily slooped but every line goes into a container before the next step idgaf

i dont use blueprints at all: everything i build is bespoke

[granite glen]

does anyone want to play satis together im new

[tight oak]

i have 2k hours in DSP....and i have two blueprints ive ever used. Polar Solar, and a Shield Generator bp

[granite glen]

@deep gate wanna play together im new

[tight oak]

yeah, it covers both the north and south poles in solar panels xD

[tight oak]

im about to head to bed, but i actually set up/rented a server for my friends and i. theres still like one or two more spots open, so you can join if you want, though nobody is gonna be on now

i prefer to play withot the dark fog, personally. but i like missiles for fighting fog. you can extend their range with one of the buildings, so ill land on a safe part of the planet, place some 30 missile launchers, an elevator, and then just start extending the range towards the bases. safest and easiest way ive found to do it imo,

yeah thats the primary reason i turn them off. theyre just a huge annoyance. honestly i play on infinite resources for the same reason: i find flying around sourcing new nodes to be extremely tedious

[quasi warren]

Yea

You could adjust it tho

[tight oak]

yeah. it tended to take quite a while to deplete even your starting planet, but it was definitely doable

[quasi warren]

Either infinite, or finite. You choose

Each game does logistics VERY differently

[gloomy tusk]

No I destroyed them

[tight oak]

yeah i mean to be fair, it was pretty easy. you usually wouldnt start depleting entire planets until late/end game but it wasnt...difficult to source new iron for example, you just set extractors and a space elevator and your transports will do the rest

i just found it tedious. id be doing one thing but oh no i depleted all the copper over here and now i gotta source new copper nodes or everything grinds to a halt

[quasi warren]

Similar to factorio in that aspect

[tight oak]

my factorio world is....abundant

sadly i have not tried it

I never unlocked that one. Uploading from inventory seemed kinda pointless to me

Hm. I hadn't considered that: that you can upload your valuables like sloops/slugs/spheres etc and not worry about actually having to do a corpse run

[clear mesa]

Same reason it can't find any of your other resources when researching ig

Buildings aren't compatible with the dimensional depot except for....crafting?

Definitely feels a bit inconsistent

[leaden turret]

does anyone know how to stop the big box desk mat from ponging?

[clear mesa]

Agreed

I more so meant crafting in general. Like using the crafting stations still pulls from the dimensional depot

[leaden turret]

something something quantum something something

why'd you need depot access to drives when you can just build a new mam out in the field and scan it?

FICSIT does not waste

-# time doing inbox zero

[clear mesa]

Honestly it just saves the dragging from depot to inventory time sink

Which granted isn't a lot but could be one click 🤷‍♂️

[tight oak]

This. Especially for later phases

I'm sorry you want me to load TEN THOUSAND IRON FUCKING PLATES BY HAND?

[granite glen]

my iron is fsr snd copper mining is fsr where do I place hub

[clear mesa]

By the time you have dimensional depots fully upgraded to 5 stack you are no longer being asked for 1/2,000 plates for tiers anyways

[dense violet]

where ever you feel is convenient

[granite glen]

there is no chance I can find copper and iron together?

so I dont have to run everytime

[clear mesa]

They're very often paired together

[leaden turret]

if you build it, they will come

[dense violet]

there's lots of spots like that - but it sounds like you're very early in the game

[tight oak]

Yeah they ask for like 4 stacks of a high tier resource, not 100 stacks of a basic resource

Lucky for me, the iron plate container with DD was right next to the hub

But still

[granite glen]

yes I started playing today

what do I do

[clear mesa]

U deal with running back and forth or route a conveyor to meet in the middle of the two with storage containers at the end

[sweet light]

Heh.. Just found out that driving factory cart on glass foundation is like driving on ice

[tight oak]

Have you played an automation game before?

[clear mesa]

Eventually there's ways to circumvent this and make your life easier...not much easier than using conveyors though

[tight oak]

I'm being autistic, for the record. Not trying to be mean

[granite glen]

minecraft

[tight oak]

I set up a server for my homies and have extra space. You can join us if you want to. Nobody is on atm, but two of us will be on tomorrow

I gotta get to bed cause I work tomorrow/today

[tall lantern]

the main game is basically one long tutorial gradually introducing you to concepts. Pay attention to what the game's teaching you, and work your way through milestones, the MAM, and the Space Elevator tasks

the simplest loop is pick something to build -> come up with a plan -> do it -> pick something else

[granite glen]

ok

[tight oak]

Okay yeah so this is a game that's gonna be quite a lot more complicated than minecraft. I guess I can turn on my computer and log in and show you a few things real quick

I'll dm you the server info

[granite glen]

I need someone to play w me its boring alone

[tight oak]

Felt

[tall lantern]

for a first timer I wouldn't recommend playing multiplayer tbh

[granite glen]

why

[sweet light]

Endless drifting. 😆

[tall lantern]

you get funnelled into one person's methods, and often get carried rather than learn for yourself, so you don't end up any better than you started

there's a lot of variety in how you can tackle problems

[granite glen]

ok

I need to play w someone who is new

[clever sandal]

best item to dump in aweseome sink?

(except dna)

phase 2

[tall lantern]

ballistic warp engine for max points per item IIRC, but that doesn't necessarily mean "best"

super early, sinking raw uranium isn't bad lol

[leaden turret]

hell is other people

by learning to play the game with other people, you're learning how they play, not how you wanna play

[clear mesa]

I play with a duo and for the life of me I can't get him out of the habit of overclocking every single production machine instead of just placing an identical one on top of it to conserve energy and slugs 😞

[tight oak]

@granite glen this is true. There's really no wrong way to play this game. Learning from another only really teaches you their methods and not the problem-solving method

[clear mesa]

I go back when he's not looking and fix it just cause we are not in the infinite power production business

Yeah I get better at dealing with it day by day

I don't mind him building monstrosities

It's just when I have to revamp the power so soon again cause the steel factory needs to have 40 overclocked machines

😞

[tall lantern]

make them do it

[clear mesa]

And then they overclock the power

[tall lantern]

that's reasonable, depending on scale

[clear mesa]

Which granted is a linear expansion unlike production machines

[tall lantern]

there are 5000 shards worth of slugs on the map, using some is fine

[clear mesa]

My issue isn't that tbh, you can automate them late game so they become an infinite resource

I just dislike building power production more than anything NGL

[tall lantern]

^

[tight oak]

And you can make synthetic ones later too

[tall lantern]

if they're the one using it all, they can help build it lol

[clear mesa]

This is worse

[clear mesa]

I will enslave them to build the rocket fuel farm

[tall lantern]

I am aware, but if you're at that point you wouldn't be worrying about their use

[tight oak]

If you're on PC, use scim

[twin parcel]

if i want to build 16 coal gen , how much water extracter i need if overclock/underclock , i have enough space to build more extractors just need proper planning

[tall lantern]

how much does one coal gen use?

vs how much does one extractor produce?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[tall lantern]

welcome to Doing Math

[deep gate]

link?

[dense violet]

look at the water extractor - it tells you 🙂 these are some basic steps you'll have to keep doing over and over

[tight oak]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[twin parcel]

im good at calculus but suck at basic in game maths

[sterile blade]

"If you don't help me with the next power source, you'll have to power your next factory on your own with biomass burners "

[tall lantern]

good to start practicing on the easy stuff then

don't forget calculators exist

or the Nalculator in game

(can type formulae in the N search box)

[dense violet]

you can also just look at the sloops on the base map and it'll show you

[lilac bear]

I meant conveyor lifts. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Conveyor_Lifts

[simple stream]

does anyonme have a 1.1 map of the game

[tall lantern]

SCIM

[dense violet]

the online map linked above

[twin parcel]

yeah done bringing them down , now im unsure of water extractors needed if i underclock , since i have a lot of space .

[simple stream]

do i just seacrh map

[lilac bear]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[tall lantern]

again, just do the maths

• how much does one coal gen need
• so how much do you need total
• then how much does a water extractor produce
• so how much total clock% do you need

[dense violet]

literally just above #satisfactory message

[tight oak]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/#google_vignette

[dense violet]

oh yeah look for the purple haze or take notes then

[tight oak]

If you know where a silly pioneer might have dropped them you could look in that area... I know it shows loot chests and death chests, so you can look for those....if they were to happen to have fallen off the map or onto a resource well/node...this tool can also move them for you

I don't know if it would show them if you were to literally drop them like on the ground or something 🤔 but if you dismantle more than you can carry it ends up in a chest so 🤔 I really don't know, I don't think I've ever actually dropped any thing on the ground(or even tried to)

Yeah I can totally understand why you'd do it in multi-player. And maybe single player if you have bad inventory management...I play too many suitcase mini games for that to be an issue tho 😌

[surreal rose]

bolted frame or normal?

k

thanks

[dense violet]

depends how you like producing things

bolted frame combos with Steel Screw very well

[surreal rose]

i have them

[dense violet]

it's a solid combo - just spits outs frames rapid fire if you build the screw machine right in front of hte input

[surreal rose]

gotta say bye to my iron rod constructors that i built 2 mins ago

[dense violet]

very convenient logistics , this takes into it 36 parts per min on a sushi belt and spits out 10 mod frames pm

uses bolted frame and bolted plate https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425811234363801732/1425812876182163496/image.png?ex=697f3e38&is=697decb8&hm=db963a24b6b3413f613981b2411e885dfdef2ce432ca6aba2aab0a4e49ca715e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

has 1 screw machine

sushi is easy 🙂

[surreal rose]

well i'd rather steel screws than hurt my brain with calculating how to make those 3 iron rods go somewhere

bruhhhh

and why did i delete my iron rods now

[dense violet]

it's a bit fancy sure. but you could go the non sushi route and still have very simplified logistics with a few steel beams doing the screws

hell, you could do Aluminium Beams and wind up with 'aluminium' screws xD

[valid timber]

is there a way to middle click pick up and re-place blueprints?

beautiful, thank you!

[surreal rose]

another stupid mistake, i forgot to underclock first constructor and now need to underclock all of them:(

[dense violet]

as long as the total clocking of hte system matches needs it shouldn't matter if they are all the same or not

[indigo dove]

Is it probably best to only upgrade depot upload speed to start out? Depot capacity beyond like the first upgrade doesn't seem so necessary until I get to the point where I have to slap down huge blueprints that might actually need more than two stacks of certain items.

[dense violet]

it makes essentially zero difference to anything. Power is so plentiful and easy it basically has no real impact

[mortal ginkgo]

you can increase the speed manually by using more depots for one item

[dense violet]

even fully overclocking a system only increases power consumption by 34%

and that's everything at 250%

[mortal ginkgo]

but you cant increase depot size itself without upgrades, so capacity is better

especially if you are decorating early, otherwise all is ok

[indigo dove]

Yeah but I can just hook the depots up to industrial storages as buffers to basically constantly have 120/min (that's what I've upgraded mine to) flowing into the depots whenever they aren't full.

[dense violet]

power is basically free.
if you have that mind set clock all your machines to 1% or be a hypocrite 😛

so save on FPS and OC things to 250%

[mortal ginkgo]

stack size increase makes you use bigger decorating etc which I needed personally.

If 120/min is enough for your end, feel free to upgrade whatever else you think its cool

[dire needle]

what would make most sense packagin liquids or just liquid frieght carts?

[dense violet]

either works about the same , just need to buffer it properly.

Unless it's gas, package gas

[dense violet]

example buffers to use on both ends - I'd choose one and replicate it exactly #design-and-architecture message

[mortal ginkgo]

packaging liquids allow you to carry more fluid but the whole packaging/unpackaging system complexes things.

packaging gas is always better tho'

[dense violet]

you'll need a return car for empty containers - so throughput works out to be similar

[dire needle]

alrighty thanks 🙂

also also question about more complex items like fused modular frames how much would be enough per min

not planning to use it for anything further atm atleast

[mortal ginkgo]

if you are not going ultra late game, 15/min etc is really good enough for late game items.

[dense violet]

trying to future proof is usually a waste of effort and time - make a handful a minute - store a ton of them. If you need more later? make more

treat the milestones liek a tutorial - focus on learning the basics 🙂

[dire needle]

ig now when i have 2 nice people being helpful, waht would be more ideal, making factorys that go from ingots to end product or having smaller factorys making tier 2-3 items and then sending them to factorys to make end products

[lilac bear]

Besides, once you need more you might need it at the other side of the map.

[mortal ginkgo]

I go from raw material to end. But nothing stopping you from doing other way around.

Like, you can make a factory that makes Wires and send them all around, why not.

Whatever floats your boat, makes your mom proud, tickles your fancy, etc.

[dire needle]

so do u transport raw material or just build factorys close to the nodes or a mix?

[lilac bear]

Some people train everything around the map, other people prefer drones for end products or mega factories or belting everything.

There's no wrong way to play.

[mortal ginkgo]

Do all of those whenever I feel like. However I delete everything at each phase to make it better as more transport options appear.

When trains arrive, you can do whatever you like, wherever.

[lilac bear]

I recommend setting up oil power on top of oil nodes before you do start putting trains all over the place (easiest place is probably west coast), but you can do whatever.

[dire needle]

ya the second i unlocked trains i made a railroad ina circle around the entire map

and i just finnish a rocket fuel power plant making around 100k

im just a lil lost what to do now

[mortal ginkgo]

This is what majority does and solves almost all problems excluding your irl ones.

[mortal ginkgo]

Always go for next phase unless you got the urge to decorate, make more for challenge etc.

[clever sandal]

BROO
I JUST REALISED THE WHOLE WORLD IS THE SAME MAP WITH DIFFRENT SPAWN POINTS

[dire needle]

so go straight for phase 4? to unlock tier 9

[clever sandal]

which is crazy because i tought we we're on a diffrent planet

[mortal ginkgo]

Sure why not.

[unkempt blade]

play however makes you happiest 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

Game says "different landing zones" ! Read people! Read! Don't be like me kek.

[clever sandal]

bro i look at picture not the text

[mortal ginkgo]

Pretty picture = Good landing zone. 😄

Which is a lie.

[clever sandal]

exactly

[zenith pecan]

I tend to favour the dunes as my starting spot, oil next door, easy coal and surprisingly open, though building on raised platforms helps some.

[mortal ginkgo]

Rocky Desert is the goat tho'. Much closer to oil and everything else.

[unkempt blade]

I like the other 3 starting spots for exactly those same reasons

[peak wasp]

did i scare you?

[zenith pecan]

I've never seen any goats in the game.

[peak wasp]

why are you crying?

[zenith pecan]

🤷‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

you mean the things skittering all over rocks spitting acid at me?

[peak wasp]

you cant see goats in games. go to the mountains you will find a lot there

[zenith pecan]

Those are not goats 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

Maybe for you, but for us, they are!

[unkempt blade]

What do you mean not goats? I just described goats perfectly

[peak wasp]

i just came here so lets start from the begining

are you all new? am i new? who is new?

[unkempt blade]

You should go play Satisfactory. It's fun

[peak wasp]

sure

[lilac bear]

!wikisearch stinger

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=stinger

[mortal ginkgo]

thats a cat, lil bro

[unkempt blade]

that's the scariest goat I've ever seen

[lilac bear]

Clearly not a goat

[surreal rose]

#screenshots message guess how many conveyors are there

[mortal ginkgo]

Cats and goats are related lol go get educated

[unkempt blade]

read the description, it's clearly describing a goat

[mortal ginkgo]

Can you like, go jail first? Ty.

[unkempt blade]

3

[surreal rose]

nah✌️

[surreal rose]

wrong, not even close

[unkempt blade]

Sorry but I'm always correct about everything. Especially identifying goats and counting conveyors

[surreal rose]

WRONG🔴

[unkempt blade]

it's like you've never even seen a goat

[surreal rose]

i did

i see them almost every time i go outside in spring summer and autumn

[hollow hazel]

The wiki never lies.

[mortal ginkgo]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sorry bro you got me REALLY off guard there

[lilac bear]

I remember why I don't come here more often.

[versed pasture]

I found a naked mercer sphere... how lewd

[hollow hazel]

It was doing what the slugs do: sunbathing

Getting a good, even tan.

Didn't want any bikini lines.

[dire needle]

what fuel to use with drones

[peak wasp]

naked? that is hot

[versed pasture]

a purple tan

[mortal ginkgo]

rocket fuel

[dire needle]

like no compettion?

like best fuel for speed and the use of it

[mortal ginkgo]

Some makes Batteries too which is on par. Some goes for using Uranium/Plut Fuel too.

However since how much you can create with so little needed, Rocket Fuel can be best. Ultra Late Game you can use Ionized one as well for very long distances.

Check Drones wiki for what fuel gives what.

[deep gate]

It was a bit confusing reading that and thinking "wtf I don't remember writing it"

(I have avatars disabled in my Discord)

[mortal ginkgo]

but why

[deep gate]

compactness

[junior creek]

which one of these MAM reaserches should I do first?

Alien Megafauna
Alien Technology
Nutrients
Power Slugs

which one is more useful

[hollow hazel]

Which do you want first?

• Medical Inhaler to heal and construct Rebar Gun
• Dimensional Depot so you don't have to run back to base for building materials
• Medical Inhaler to heal without the need for Mycelia
• Making machines run faster (and draw (or produce) extra much power

!wikisearch MAM

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=MAM

[hollow hazel]

See the full table here.

[junior creek]

oh thanks a lot

[real shale]

factory cart

[hollow hazel]

@silk hollow Are the station heads facing the correct way? Do you have signals facing in both directions?

[mortal ginkgo]

to add above, just because you can manually ride to a station, doesn't mean its reachable. your own train basically ignores all rules.

[slate lagoon]

How do I make a Freight Cart for liquid?

[ornate saffron]

there is one speficly for fluid

in the same constuuction menu

[slate lagoon]

I dont see it anywhere

[real shale]

freight cars naturally store both liquid and solid materials

its the freight platforms themselves that need to be specified

[slate lagoon]

Should I use the Liquid cars actually? they only store 1600 units

thats pretty low tbh

[real shale]

honestly, up to you, but its good practice to use buffers for this instance

since when the liquid is loading unloading it stops all flow from the train station temporarily until the animation is finished

which is bad because you want to keep your pipes full, and that period lets it drain out a bit, but in some circumstances packaging and unpackaging can give higher throughput especially if you are dealing with gases like nitrogen

[autumn token]

its called obsession, i played the game on an avrage of 10-11 hours a day, i did nothing but eat, sleep, and beeing efficient. Most games i play are trash, and movies/animes don't impress me anymore. I was thirsting for a good game and i found it

[midnight wagon]

I'm going through something similar, I am not going to lie, though I panic a lot when trying to decide how to go about things in-game so there's a lot of hours spent with me completely frozen on the spot

[upbeat harness]

Is there any way to block clipping/overlapping on the server?

[hollow hazel]

Only if such a feature ever existed in the base game.

[unkempt blade]

It's not that low. Use more cars or more trains if you need more

[real shale]

iirc not blocking clipping was a design choice to balance performance

[unkempt blade]

Just commit to something and see how it goes. There's no way to lose the game. There's no downside to trying stuff out

[upbeat harness]

it makes no sense, because there are notifications anyway and it lights up yellow

[midnight wagon]

Weirdly enough, it was two days ago when I first realised that I had just completely forgotten and it was a game meant to have fun. It follows exactly what you said: just commit to something and see how it goes. It doesn't have to be optimal. It just has to work.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah, most of the stress people bring up on here is self-inflicted. The worst that'll happen is you might progress a little slower than you would otherwise but you'll still get there

But it's not a competition (unless you're speedrunning) and trying different things is fun from the angle of doing logistics puzzles which is what factory games are mostly about

[midnight wagon]

Nah, I don't care about speedrunning. Ijust want to figure stuff out. I have not even completed Phase 2. Right now, it's all about learning the ropes. I also recruited for doggos and they've been bringing me stuff I have been sinking, so that's helped

[autumn token]

yeah, i didn't expect for this game to be so long, and i love it! phase 5 took me 20 hours while phase 4 took me 50

in phase 5 i also build the nuclear plant, and spoiler, 10 nuclear buildings are not enough 🙂 so i builded 15

[unkempt blade]

I've already been through the game a couple times so at this point I generally flip a coin/roll some dice to make decisions for myself in game

[autumn token]

give me an example

[unkempt blade]

1. I unlock a hard drive - I don't pick what's best I flip a coin
2. I want to build a factory for X and I have multiple recipe options - I roll a dice to pick which I use for that build

[real shale]

me when i see a recipe involving screws

[oak nymph]

How much ficsit ingot/ficsit Trigon would I need

[real shale]

okay so the best alt recipe combo for rotors on satisfactory tools is scarily efficent

[autumn token]

what's up with screws and why everyone hates them? i never once had a problem with them

[ornate saffron]

pple have problems wit hscrews becuase they try to move them in bulk instead of building when and as needed

[real shale]

its because you produce so many of them and they often require multiple belts to move about because you quickly exceed belt capacity

[autumn token]

oh.... i get it! i had this problem but with copper wires 🙂

[unkempt blade]

screws are a high quantity item which makes the typical "build one huge manifold for the ingredient" approach a little less desireable and a lot of people are allergic to using different build patterns (build screws in multiple small modules next to the building that's consuming them)

[hollow hazel]

And then we got some of the most beautiful buildings because people can clip pieces together masterfully. They become "featured art" by the developers.

[autumn token]

this is the strategy that i was using, that's why i didn't had a problem..... but man.... coper wires....

[midnight wagon]

I asked this question the other day and I was told this. It makes so much sense to just transport rods and make the screws at the factory where they are needed. It also just made me realise that I could just smelt the iron at the extraction site and transport the ingots.

[upbeat harness]

That's why I asked about difficulty options, the options include, for example, no energy, unlock everything, no fuel, etc.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah this is the way. Same idea for other screw recipes (just using iron ingots or steel beams instead of rods)

[hollow hazel]

And such options end up becoming mods if someone were to ask nicely.

[ornate saffron]

you can go on step further and have the screw contructor feed the next machine directly

[autumn token]

there is also an alternative recipe of using steel to make crews, maybe could that work?

[real shale]

600 rotors a minute, just casually make 10400 screws a minute

[midnight wagon]

On it, boss. Thanks for the tip.

[real shale]

and thats not even using a full iron node thats using 233 iron ore and 480 copper a minute lmao

[unkempt blade]

Yep same idea. Move the ingredient to make the screws the longer distance and make screws next to the building that consumes them

[hollow hazel]

"Have you seen my stretch-limo-factory? Nothin but constructors making screws all orderly like. 😹

[unkempt blade]

You can move 1 steel beam or 52 steel screws. One is going to be wildly less traffic on the main belt than others

[midnight wagon]

Honestly, I want to unlock more of those. I only have found two crash sites so far, but I also don't want to get sidetracked. Right now I am rebuilding my iron extraction sites. Then I need to make some lines for rotor, reinforced iron plates and modular frames. Up my steel production. After all of that's done, I think I'll hunt for some harddrives.

I really wanted to try trucks, but it sounds like an overkill. I cannot envision how to make that work at all.

[unkempt blade]

yeah imo after you have stuff automated it's nice to take an exploration break occasionally and just let resources pile up for the next build

It's a really well designed map. It's a lot of fun exploring it the first time especially

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree. The Pink Forest in the middle is REALLY peaceful and calming too. Great for a break from making factories!

[real shale]

and ugly

[midnight wagon]

;-; I was exploring a few days ago. I fell into this chasm in the grass fields. I landed onto a SAM node, which was lovely... which happened to be in the middle of a spider lair. I got jumped so hard. I managed to live only to realise I was being gassed by plants.

[real shale]

needs more pollution in it

[midnight wagon]

How I survived that I have no idea

[zenith pecan]

Only if it lets me turn lakes into roiling acid by purging industrial chemestry.

[midnight wagon]

By the way, is there anything that the doggos can bring that you'd recommend not sinking in the early game, except of course slugs

[autumn token]

waste

[upbeat harness]

I was just looking for the mod and couldn't find it

[oak nymph]

Would 295ficsit Trigon be enough?

[oak nymph]

Per min

[unkempt blade]

A bunch of the stuff they bring you is nice to speed up research when you got whatever tier needs it

[unkempt blade]

Waste isn't in their loot table anymore so shouldn't be seeing that

[hollow hazel]

I guess not a lot of people want the extra restriction. Everyone seems to want to clip to their heart's content.

[autumn token]

i didn't know that, i just saw memes on the internet

[unkempt blade]

yeah it used to be one of their items pre-1.0

[autumn token]

that is so troll 🙂

[unkempt blade]

my old doggo pens would have a conveyor to take waste far away for me 😆

[upbeat harness]

Usually, my friends and I play the game on the highest difficulty level, provided the game is interesting, but in this case, the distortion is killing the immersion.

[autumn token]

early in the game, i got my ass beaten by hogs so many times and lost my items and couldn't got them back, from that day on, i killed every hog i saw, and i thought the dogos will grow into hogs after some time and also killed them as well, I am a bad person 🙁

[peak wasp]

are you all fans of this great game?

i am proud to see a lot of fans here

[midnight wagon]

At some point I am sure I will start questioning whether I am a fan of this game cause it's a good game or cause I actually hate myself

[lilac bear]

The first few of each.

[lilac bear]

There's a few youtube videos on the topic.

[slate lagoon]

Do I have to use 2 buffers? Kinda like how you use 2 Belts for the Industrial Storages for normal items, but for Liquid form?

[mortal ginkgo]

the reason for its lowness is so that packaging them has an upside for the complexity.

you can always use more trains or more freights to cover up the 1600 unit storage

[slate lagoon]

I will probably cause I dont wanna bother packaging all that

[void cliff]

I think I actually do like the dune desert the least for a starting zone, but the other three are great. It’s not that the dune desert is difficult, either, it’s just large, open, and kind of boring compared to the other three

[delicate sage]

Would it be okay to use trains to move if it’s / base (most simple after ore/crsytal) materials to a factory or is the amount of stations needed to accept product a limiting factor? Are drones more for this? Any advice is appreciated - thank you.

*ingots

[void cliff]

It’s always okay to use plenty of trains, just plan a massive train station into your base

[coral marsh]

The limiting factor with trains is climbing, too many cars and the train wont actually climb but otherwise, go right ahead.

If you need 10 freight cars, go for it, it does work you just wont climb high

[delicate sage]

How about using conveyor elevators to solve elevation problem?

[coral marsh]

Works, but could mean 2 trains, one below and one above

[delicate sage]

Okay thanks for your help guys I appreciate it

[coral marsh]

All goods

Trains are fun

[tame bobcat]

is it bad i try and set up train systems if its a slight long distance 😭 they just look so much better then long conveyor belts

[coral marsh]

Nah trains are made for carting over long distances

I had 3 go literally cross map

[elfin smelt]

if you are having fun its always alright

inefficiency is a small cost for aesthetics for some people

[primal obsidian]

yeah me too i could literally see the place i was getting ore from and i still used train

it was like 100m away

[coral marsh]

A lot will say 4 train cars freight or fluids is the only option but I used to have a 6 car train, 5 freight 1 fluid and it still managed to climb about 80 meters

[tame bobcat]

now thats my kinda ideology lol

[tame bobcat]

i've heard people say freight fluid cars arent the best, that true or no?

[coral marsh]

For my nuclear plant, im gonna be utilizing at least 2 trains with 4-6 cars each, 4 trains if need be

[primal obsidian]

not the only option its the BEST option

[tame bobcat]

like, they would rather just utilise a massive pipeline

[primal obsidian]

it works i havent had any issues

[coral marsh]

They dont hold as much as they would irl so we would like a buff to them, but 2400³m of volume is good

[coral marsh]

Eh, depends, like as i said, I had 1 train with 6 cars 5 freight 1 fluid and it managed to climb 50+ meters and not loose speed

[primal obsidian]

yeah you do have to use multiple freight cars sometimes

[mortal ginkgo]

I think it also matters if they are carrying things or not.

[coral marsh]

Fully laden, nearly 80 meter climb, 6 total cars

[mortal ginkgo]

👁️ 👄 👁️

Interbastung.

[coral marsh]

Im gonna have 1 train for uranium and 1 for thorium (I use mods), ill also be using trains for items that I make off site to keep asthetics up

[primal obsidian]

i make everything on-site because i like the look of a ton of machines everywhere and really big buildings

[coral marsh]

Most immediate project though is to place down 1440 fuel gens and supply them with rocket fuel for 360Gw then gather up all the sloops ive collected for alien power augmenters

[primal obsidian]

and i also dont use overclocks at all

underclocks i do use though

[mortal ginkgo]

make sure they are up in the sky and placed upon 1m ficsit foundations!

[coral marsh]

Im gonna have to make plutonium cells on site so im not bothered with that

[unkempt blade]

1 locomotive per 4 freight cars should be the number that can handle any slope you could build a track for

[coral marsh]

Already on it lol, I can place 966 up top and the rest will go below

[coral marsh]

It is

[primal obsidian]

my favorite build style

[open canyon]

Am I able to have multiple spawns?

[coral marsh]

Only with a mod

[open canyon]

If i rebuild my home will I have to redo the upgrades

[coral marsh]

No

[void cliff]

Is the “climbing issue” with long trains mostly due to the track slope? Do flatter slopes make it easier?

[coral marsh]

Trains struggle to climb irl

This is also true in game its why irl tracks are never above a certain gradient because its metal on metal with literally as much contact between wheel and track as the size of a nickel

Doesn't matter if its steam, diesel or electric they all struggle

Though some steam trains could brute force it (which was badass), but the more weight a train is hauling, the longer it takes to take off and stop as well as thr more difficulty it will have in climbing any sort of vertical rise

Trains have a far easier time moving along a flat track and a downhill track

[sacred trail]

Where is the highest point to get the achievement?

[coral marsh]

An impure uranium node about 5-6km north of grassy Valley

Its onto of a giant rock pillar near an ocean expanse north east of the rocky desert and west of the canyon

[oak nymph]

It's lower than you might thought

[pliant prawn]

Any news about 1.2 yet?

[unkempt blade]

yes, it's going to fix all the pipe complaints everyone has

[pliant prawn]

Press X to doubt lol But I certainly wouldnt complain. I just hadnt heard anything in a while

[clever sandal]

what does raido tower do

[tame bobcat]

yall should i smelt raw resources first then put on trains or just put the raw resource straight on? does it make a difference

[pliant prawn]

reveals things on map. Very handy. Helps lots

[unkempt blade]

#announcements message that's just because people like to complain too much

[clever sandal]

hi factory cart > tier 6 conveyor belt

[pliant prawn]

squeaky wheels get the grease, Leaky pipes get a rerelease ? lol

[unkempt blade]

how liquids work is already perfect in every way so I'm excited to see what even better looks like

[pliant prawn]

LMAO if they were perfect then folks wouldn't be constantly having issues. I've got over 2k hours and I still occasionally out of the blue get issues. Im very hopeful there is some magical fix for them too.

[sacred trail]

What are leaky pipes? There was a way to release water into a river?

[pliant prawn]

no sadly, but we have often asked. Maybe one day

[unkempt blade]

Exactly, the perfect amount of challenge for a logistics game. The creators are truly great and all-knowing in their design

[mortal ginkgo]

few loud minority elitists disagree with you and state that it is all your wrong piping.

they must be correct!

PS: even devs are wrong in their eyes but dont tell them that

[sacred trail]

If there's ever a sequel, I wish they made the world more interesting, with secrets, alien messages, easter eggs, etc. No properly a story, but some kind of lore scattered in the world

[unkempt blade]

no sorry it's already the best world ever

[sacred trail]

Meh, I don't think so. The exploration for stuff is cool, but I miss something more interesting. The alien conversations are cool, but not enough.

[pliant prawn]

It do be that way. Makes it really hard to work with em some days.

[coral marsh]

A lot of elitists honestly have such a massive ego, they always forget how much they struggled when they first learnt something or did a thing

[obtuse rampart]

Should i automate smart plating for phase 1, or just hand craft the materials for 50 smart plates

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup.

[mortal ginkgo]

automate everything

[obtuse rampart]

;-;

[sacred trail]

Yeah, you will miss it after if you don't.

[obtuse rampart]

Since I'm early game should I worry about maximum efficiency and stuff

[coral marsh]

Its why I persist with my ideas/concepts

[obtuse rampart]

I see some people say not to worry about it early game, but also some say to make it top priority

[mortal ginkgo]

Its ok to be wrong your concepts/ideas and change. Just note that elitists are always wrong. kek.

👁️ 👄 👁️

Also pipes are wack.

[coral marsh]

I can admit when im wrong, but I refuse to back down in the face of elitists

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, they deserve everything. Including limestones in their most important production lines and inside their smart splitters!

[pliant prawn]

doesnt have to be perfect. You got so much stuff to unlock before you can reeeeallly optimize anyway so just make Goo'Nuff(TM) and experiment around. Eventually you will either massive rebuild, or abandon early stuff for other areas of the map to be higher production. There are no wrong answers here

[stoic laurel]

mmm limestone... the most important node needed to blanket an area in concrete

[coral marsh]

Speaking of limestone, you should see the blender blueprint i put together for encased uranium cells, I spent about an hour on it

[pliant prawn]

reminds me that one patch that somehow switched copper ore for limestone and everyone was having to go drain their systems to reboot them lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Good job. Perfect. Everything as it should be!

[stoic laurel]

what would be a intersting production machine would be a crusher, to be able to send nodes into it that you dont really use and turn it into limestone

[coral marsh]

Two words
Fluid
Sink

[pliant prawn]

or an extractor, you take junk limestone node and get a reaaallly low return of something else. Theres still room for lots of things I think. Really curious/excited to see whats next...even though I still havent 'beat' the game once hahahaha

[coral marsh]

Wet concrete is the best recipe for water bi products

Dissolved quartz is another you can turn back into quartz to sink

[pliant prawn]

I force myself to just reuse water in systems. Ive not actually drained any to WetCon yet

[coral marsh]

You can also do it for pure ingot recipes

[sick falcon]

what

[pliant prawn]

thats mostly what I use it for.

[coral marsh]

Fair

[stoic laurel]

that wet concrete is good for a mk2 miner on a nomral node

[bitter crow]

is it a good idea to have smaller factories making one type of thing to improve effectivity in transport?

[pliant prawn]

there was some patch or update ages ago and when you loaded in to it all the belts for copper ore got flipped to limestone for some reason. was kinda funny

[coral marsh]

Whatever your heart desires honestly

[bitter crow]

such as reinforced frames

[coral marsh]

If you wanna make those en mass specifically, 8 or 10 assemblers honestly

Otherwise its 1 or 2 every minute which is stupid slow

[pliant prawn]

it can be, but its not required. It can certainly be helpful to distribute some needs like that , like putting some products around the map so you have them in different areas

[coral marsh]

Im specifically thinking about using the modded recipe i have (heat infused modular frames) and making like, 20 or 24 per minute.

[obtuse rampart]

Yall should I wait for coal power to build big factories or no

[coral marsh]

Yes

But coal is a good median until you unlock fuel gens

20 fuel gens will produce 1.5Gw, 40 (is what I reccomend) will produce 3Gw

[pliant prawn]

most certainly. Youll thank yourself. And even then youll want to work towrads oil to do reallly big stuff

[coral marsh]

Once you unlock fuel gens, build a minimum of 40 fuel gens for 10Gw

[obtuse rampart]

i'm contemplating making a factory for smart plating or just hand crafting them for phase 1

[coral marsh]

Hand craft them

[pliant prawn]

honestly hand craft for that one will do fine. Or alternately, just do a single machine for it and let it simmer in the background

[coral marsh]

Yup

[obtuse rampart]

alrighty

[vague thorn]

i am so confused

[coral marsh]

About what

[obtuse rampart]

Should I get jump pads or no they seem useless

[vague thorn]

i just started playing satisfactory and ive found ways of automating different materials like screws, plates, etc. but i still don't understand the power generator attached to the hub, it doesn't have an input for biomass i have to put it in manually, does this change as i upgrade more and get to higher tears? or are the generators on the hub just for early game stuff?

[pliant peak]

no they dont have belt input

its manual

[vague thorn]

so once i start making biomass burners i can just leave the hub generators alone?

[pliant peak]

yes

[vague thorn]

bet thx

[coral marsh]

Oh disregard those, only use them until you can place down biomass burners

[coral marsh]

Go farming for bushes and wood, unlock the chainsaw and deforest a small area and you can turn it all into solid biofuel, fill a storage container, use a splitter or 2 for between 3 and 12 burners

[pliant prawn]

and dont forget that you can automate your biomass and solid biofuel...and there may be ||AlIeN TeChNoLoGy WoOoOo|| to help you increase your yield a ton

[obtuse rampart]

Reinforced Iron Plate factory or no

[coral marsh]

Youll get between 90 and 360Mw

[pliant prawn]

at least a few. just to get you going, your going to need some for next stages in pretty good amounts

[coral marsh]

Yes, at least 8-10 assembles regardless of the recipe

[obtuse rampart]

so this'll probably my first big factory then

yay

[pliant prawn]

Huzzah! The factory must grow.

[obtuse rampart]

i'm excited for coal power

i'm sick of manually feeding my biomass burners

[coral marsh]

I suggest 20-40 coal gens, if 20, 10 a side, if 40, 20 a side. 3gw for 20, 6Gw for 40

[pliant prawn]

Im going for lunch...and booze. have fun yall. And remember you too can stay awake at night thinking "Why does Satisfactory have Fabric, and Resin...But no Fiberglass?" hmmmmmmm

[coral marsh]

Ooo booze, beer or whiskey

[pliant prawn]

both lol. doublefisting. maybe scotch well see lol

[stoic laurel]

with enough leaves wood and alien protein you dont have to manually feed them

[coral marsh]

I love Scotch

[obtuse rampart]

yeah but

coal

[stoic laurel]

i still have my 22 biomass reactors on the off chance i almost trip my power

[coral marsh]

They using packaged biofuel? Also place like, 100-200 power storage units near the burners

[rain hollow]

I have very high hopes for my new factory

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message

[pliant prawn]

new kibitz vid just dropped. guess my lunch will have cinema entrtainment heehee

[stoic laurel]

just solid biofuel

[coral marsh]

Make it packaged

[obtuse rampart]

but coal

[rain hollow]

Do all the dunes in the dunes desert go up to an about the same height?

[coral marsh]

No

[rain hollow]

Hmm... I will make due

Because it's better than the last place I was at

[obtuse rampart]

honestly i think this game's power systems are lacking

i think it could have more power-related machines

like industrialist or smth

[stoic laurel]

you can still do coal, just keep the biofuel reactors as an "Oh S---" thing in case you almost trip your power

[obtuse rampart]

hm

good idea

[coral marsh]

Personally id love a power gen that sucks up dark matter from the universe and burns it for power, giving dark matter residue as a by product. Producing around 500-2,000Gw each (varying cycle like geothermal gens). I'd make it so the power gen needs excited photonic matter, crystal oscillators and SAM ore

[obtuse rampart]

i meant like steam turbines and such but okay-

[dark timber]

also later in research trees you get this tool that lets you segment power networks, its lowkey saving my bacon while building my megafactory for phase 4

[coral marsh]

Nah the devs dont want to add in clean energy to the game so we wont get that sort of thing

[obtuse rampart]

aw :(

[rain hollow]

Why u no like environmental destruction?

[obtuse rampart]

i love enviromental destruction

[dark timber]

I would love more uses for sam, im in phase 4 rn and I only use it for the storage system

[obtuse rampart]

trust me

[coral marsh]

Wait till tier 9

[dark timber]

GLORY!

[rain hollow]

They why u want clean power?

[coral marsh]

You use it for a lot

[obtuse rampart]

i just want more power sources

like

[coral marsh]

SAM has a shit ton more uses in tier 9

[dark timber]

thats reassuring that I didnt waste 12 hours building the infastructure

[obtuse rampart]

i love the coal power plant from industrialist

getting to go inside the giant building and actually having a startup sequence and stuff is peak

[coral marsh]

Wait for converters and quantum encoders

[dark timber]

aw drat

[rain hollow]

That Make sense

[dark timber]

well, are you really playing the game if you dont rebuild everything each phase lol

[rain hollow]

Does it? I think it was just for research in the alien technology tree and for depot uploaders

[coral marsh]

You can use SAM in T9 and a converter to change certain ores into others like bauxite to uranium, quartz to coal etc

And the converters need fluctuated sam to build

[rain hollow]

Wait you can convert ores to different ores...

[coral marsh]

Yes in t9 if you are lacking in a certain area

[dark timber]

Ooooooo, I am going to use the hell out of that

[rain hollow]

Reanimated? Or Sam fluctuators?

[coral marsh]

2nd one

[rain hollow]

Not crazy hard to make

One bad thing about moving the factory is everything needs to be rebuilt now

[coral marsh]

Like, for example there is 2100 uranium ore per minute in the game, if you wanna use all the bauxite on the map as well, you can nearly triple that count from 2100 to 6300

[rain hollow]

I already dismantled everything and moved but I now I need to rebuild everything

[obtuse rampart]

is there a way to like mark a spot so i can see it on the direction bar thing at the top of the screen

[coral marsh]

Open the TacMap and place a new marker, you can edit it

[obtuse rampart]

uh

[rain hollow]

Speaking of uranium I got lucky with where I moved too because there's a uranium node on the surface just up on a mountain right next to where my new hub is

[obtuse rampart]

what's a tacmap ;-;

[dark timber]

M key

[coral marsh]

Press M on pc

[rain hollow]

So yay I can set up uranium really close to my base but still far enough away to not be irradiated

Although it is an impure node

But that's fine

[coral marsh]

Most of them are

Theres only like, 1 pure uranium node on the whole map

[dark timber]

#screenshots message

[rain hollow]

I'm guessing it's in a cave hidden somewhere hard to find?

[ornate saffron]

if you load balance your Reactors to have one rod in the machine and one otw it really reduces the radiation

[coral marsh]

Pretty much

[ornate saffron]

think its on a mountian

[rain hollow]

That checks out

[rain hollow]

The uranium node near me is on a mountain but it's impure

[ornate saffron]

ah

[rain hollow]

Should be fine with proper over clocking though

Probably will use some of it to make nuke nobelisks

[coral marsh]

There is btw. A mod that makes every single ore node on the map, Pure

[rain hollow]

Every node of every ore type?

[coral marsh]

Yup

[rain hollow]

Wow

That's useful

[coral marsh]

Ikr

[rain hollow]

All the iron near my new base location is impure

I'll need to find new nodes

Because my last factory ran on 4 iron nodes of normal purity

And I only saw I think two iron nodes and both were impure

[clever sandal]

what's bauxite for

[coral marsh]

Aluminium production

[rain hollow]

Aluminum

[clever sandal]

thanks

[rain hollow]

HE'S BRITISH!

[coral marsh]

By way of descendant, technically yes 😂

Im actually Kiwi but I am more British than americans

[clever sandal]

how do i make a lizard doggo my friend

[rain hollow]

Ｂｅｒｒｙ

[coral marsh]

Drop the red berries on the ground, back up

Wait for them to eat them

[clever sandal]

oh

[coral marsh]

You then get to name said lizard doggo

[clever sandal]

i only stunned them

[coral marsh]

DO NOT HARM THEM 😭😭😭😭

[clever sandal]

[coral marsh]

You get to name them when they're tamed, dont hurt them 😭😭

[clever sandal]

i tought rebars were used to tame them

[coral marsh]

Noooooo 😭😭

[rain hollow]

I'll tame you with explosive rebar you son of a bitch

[coral marsh]

The stun rebar is to stun enemies so you can either escape or attack them

[coral marsh]

SECONDED

[clever sandal]

well where the hell do i find some berries in a rocky desert

[rain hollow]

GET HIM!

[coral marsh]

Shatter rebar, UP THE ARSE

[rain hollow]

That's your problem

[rain hollow]

No, explosive

[coral marsh]

You cant, you need to go to a field area

[coral marsh]

If it where cats not dogs, yes

[clever sandal]

screw them doggos, nuke obelisk time

[coral marsh]

Ill shove a nuke up your ass if you do

[rain hollow]

YOU SHALL FEEL THE WRATH OF A THOUSAND SUNS!

[coral marsh]

TSAR BOMBA TIME

[open canyon]

What do I need in order to make a multi-floor factory

[clever sandal]

relax, i have only one nuke obelisk

[coral marsh]

You can use the basic already unlocked foundations tbh

The awesome shop has more options though

[clever sandal]

oh noes

my coal power is gonna give up in about a hour

[obtuse rampart]

how

i thought coal power was automatic

[clever sandal]

supply and demand

[obtuse rampart]

too many coal generators?

[clever sandal]

no, too much demand

for coal generators

[obtuse rampart]

ohh

[rain hollow]

DRONE KAMIKAZE!

[obtuse rampart]

they aren't generating enough power? i dont have em unlocked yet so i'm kinda stupid

[clever sandal]

no, i got too many factories

coal is really good source of early electricity

[coral marsh]

Coal gens produce 75Mw each

Honestly they'd be better if they produced 115 or 135Mw each

[dark timber]

quick question for phases four and five prep, Myself and my friends are currently working on a storage system and we have 114 items worth of storage, should we add more?

[coral marsh]

Use what you need for the space elevator and sink the rest

Take out and keep what you know you'll need later on

I had the same issue but way less, I sunk basically all of it to clear up room near my hub

[dark timber]

kk ty

[void cliff]

They overclock to 187.5 MW, it’s not terrible

[coral marsh]

Yea but thats also 113³m of water needed per gen

You can only have 5 coal gens on 1 mk2 pipe

They also, only store 50³m of water, kinda shitty, the stored volume of water should increase alongside shards

[void cliff]

I’m mostly a fan of overclocking everything you can after doing the miners/oil extractors to minimize machines

[coral marsh]

Same thing for thr nuclear plant

[coral marsh]

I like having more machines

[wary falcon]

how much SAM is on the map?

[coral marsh]

The coal plant consumes 45³m of water per minute, but stores 50, if the stored amount actually scaled with shards, itd be much better

[coral marsh]

9200

[wary falcon]

is that less than uranium?

[coral marsh]

way more

[wary falcon]

oh betty tysm

[coral marsh]

Uranium caps out at 2100

Coal caps out at around 43 thousand

[wary falcon]

damn

[coral marsh]

Ikr

[wary falcon]

iron liek what

75k?

[coral marsh]

70-90k

[wary falcon]

damnn

[coral marsh]

Once you hit Tier 9 (endgame) the converter allows you to take SAM Fluctuator and a certain ore and turn it into another ore

For example, Bauxite to uranium

[wary falcon]

oh wow i didnt know that

[coral marsh]

Quartz to coal

[wary falcon]

i was just working on my depots

[coral marsh]

Good idea

[rain hollow]

I TAMED A LIZARD DOGGO!

[coral marsh]

YAY

Name him Bundaberg

[open canyon]

Name him Craig.

[rain hollow]

I named him Max

Also do they have like the same thing as Minecraft where they'll just appear if you get too far or can you actually lose them by going to far

[fickle oriole]

am I crazy for thinking that nuclear power is skippable, and instead one can rely on oil power? the bill of materials for a nuke complex is just insane.

[coral marsh]

No you're not

You can finish the game in fuel

[ornate saffron]

ive cleared the game 7 times and ive never built nuclear