satisfactory

[surreal hatch]

people decorate everything.

[pallid ridge]

Damn, i just shove whatever it is in my logistic floor and forget it

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

I mean.. sure I guess?

[surreal hatch]

that's the way to go I do the same but I guess personal preferences.

[reef basin]

general recommendation is to not do megafactory

if you really want to do it anyway, then plan everything from start

[pallid ridge]

How did u achieve that kind of graphics? I crank everything on max and didn't get the same

[mortal ginkgo]

toggle global illumination on

[pallid ridge]

It's just, i really want to have one

[pallid ridge]

Alr

[mortal ginkgo]

Noone should stop you but its a huge burn-out risk task.

[burnt heath]

is the satisfactory Q&A website down? I can't get it to work

[pallid ridge]

Nah, i believe this will be easier than those algebra

I just need to find out the step

Like should there be a cargo area where it only accept train and stuff

[mortal ginkgo]

More power to you then. I suggest going vertically. Other than that, megafactory is just a term where you make everything in one place.

Costs alot of performance so keep that in mind.

[pallid ridge]

It's alr, i knew the risk

[mortal ginkgo]

This is really a question only your design can answer. This game got no "wrong" way to play.

[reef basin]

And multiple factories all over the map won't fulfill it? 🙂

[pallid ridge]

Yea since i finished using spaghetti

[pallid ridge]

No, it's just kind of desire

You know, when you want something as a kid

[mortal ginkgo]

Logistic Floors is a good idea then. Here is an old screenshot from a silly design of mine:

#screenshots message

I suggest testing your designs first before making a megafactory, if it sticks, go make your chungus version

[pallid ridge]

Alr thanks

[burnt heath]

I can't exit my train. I've rebind my key for exiting vehicles and pressed every button on the keyboard. Love this game but the bugs piss me off sometimes

[storm scroll]

Yoo question to all do you ever any ore not smelted ??

[ornate saffron]

do we ever need unprocessed ore? yes, we need it to smelt into ingots. Coal and other ores are needed for making diamonds. It gets compicated come phase 9

[mortal ginkgo]

there are different recipes that makes more ingots out of an ore, otherwise..you can only smelt ore.

[south sinew]

Generally no, but there are a couple exceptions

[storm scroll]

Ahhh ok it’s only cause I was gonna start smelting my ores second they come out of the miner to save room round my farm im making

And bring the rss over in ingots

[ornate saffron]

This is the way

[storm scroll]

I’m only on like tier 3 so don’t need a lot just takes a lot of room up bringing stuff over unsmelted

[ornate saffron]

Factories FYI

[frosty mirage]

Can i place a pump on a vertical pipe?

[dense violet]

sure try it

[frosty mirage]

I did, it wont let me 🙁

[zenith sage]

This rocket fuel plant is really killing my dimensional depo...

[frosty mirage]

I put them horizontally in the pipes connected to a junction that brings up the vertical one, hope it works

[surreal rose]

only if you use horizontal to vertical mode

any other mode curves them which gives you "pipe too sharp to attach"

[storm scroll]

Haha thanks couldn’t remember the bloody name 😂

[surreal rose]

on what tier do i unlock mk6 conveyor?(or mk5, whatever has more than 480 speed)

[zenith sage]

mk5 (720 speed) is after finishing phase 3

[surreal rose]

alr thanks

[reef basin]

well, you've been warned, it's a lot of headache and extra work, but feel free to pursue your dreams 🙂

[surreal rose]

not really a headache if you make trains all train go into one factory and use blueprint blocks for building

[zenith sage]

Why is my sulfur flowing backwards on a belt... (just visually)

[reef basin]

headache isn't "bring everything to one place", but "work with everything in one place"

[reef basin]

same as why at certain speeds car wheels look like they are turning backwards - framerate related stuff

[surreal rose]

if i make one railway block go through other will it count as one block and signals will work or 2 and signals wont work?

[reef basin]

yes, as long as you have signals, it'll "work" (meaning trains shouldn't crash)

[surreal rose]

alr thanks

[finite mirage]

should i explore and find hard drives rn? is there a specific recipe that can make heavy modular frames simplers?

[ornate saffron]

there is more Hard drives in the game then you need, Generally speaking Alternative recipes are are not better just different

[zenith sage]

The one that removes the need for screws.. encased I think? But that's just my opinion

[reef basin]

depends a lot on what do you call "simpler" 🙂

[tacit garnet]

hello, where do i change the language of the game? just downloaded it, it defaults to my native language and i'm confused

[reef basin]

yes, there's one that removes need for screws, however I'd recommend to not "remove screws" just for the sake of removing screws

[reef basin]

it's in settings somewhere

[ornate saffron]

settings has a search function at the top

[tacit garnet]

i'm in the setting which should be "user interface" in english, but it's not there

[tacit garnet]

i searcehed "language" in both english and my native language, its not there

[ornate saffron]

did you ask google>?

[surreal rose]

go in gameplay and change there

[tacit garnet]

yeah found it, thanks

it's in english US but somehow it's in my language, had to reapply and now its full english

[ornate saffron]

did it do the french canadian thing>?

[tacit garnet]

you know whats weird, my native language isn't even in the language list, yet somehow it starts in indonesian

[tacit garnet]

dont know what it is but i guess so

[ornate saffron]

ah, Im Canadian and sometime windows and programs in windows decides i speak french

[tacit garnet]

oh well in that case i do the same thing with my windows, this is why sometimes app starts in my language

[surreal rose]

i remember having 4 language at once in windows

[reef basin]

I just have everything forced to english

[surreal rose]

settings on english, name of days on my language, notifications and names of month on chinese and this panel with wifi sound etc on random language i don't remember

[reef basin]

OS, phone, apps, browser, whatever.

[ornate saffron]

this is why pipes hate you. YOu cant decide lol

[tacit garnet]

anyway.. bought the game when it was still in early access, i tend to do it with early access games. don't play and wait
now i want to play it lets gooo

[surreal rose]

it's 2 sided beef, just like pipes

[mortal ginkgo]

With zero context I thought him changing his language in game caused pipes to act weird... which would NOT surprise me one bit lols

[dense violet]

if only you didn't mistreat pipes

[surreal rose]

i built them yet they go against me

[dense violet]

only because you built them that way

[surreal rose]

maybe because they dark inside

[ornate saffron]

Did you praise the Machine god and do the correct rituals?

[surreal rose]

nah

should i?

[ornate saffron]

🙂‍↕️

[mortal ginkgo]

🙂‍↕️

[surreal rose]

will it fix my power swings?

[dense violet]

as long as 'praising the machine god' is code for buildiong them right 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

🙂‍↕️

[errant thicket]

set up a coal power plant because i had run out of bio fuel and i forgot to change a conveyer from a mk1 to mk3 so it just turning on all the way

oops

[frosty mirage]

#screenshots message I finally finished my 1st oil facility - 5000 MW, 60 rubber and 60 plastic per min

[ornate saffron]

if its pipe related then yes,

Fill machines from above.

make sure pipes are filled before activating machines

Pet the Doggo

make sure you are not trying to move more fluids then pipes can handle

[surreal rose]

you can place more

if you have pipes mk2 ofc

[frosty mirage]

Mk1 only

[surreal rose]

get mk2

[frosty mirage]

Im using 300 crude oil per 5 refinery setup

[frosty mirage]

Nope, that means progressing

[surreal rose]

and put 3 power shards in each

i know that place and there you clearly using 2 pure crude oil

[surreal rose]

no more evolving😔

[ornate saffron]

ya my fuel settup only uses 300 oil, for 16-18GW and 40 rubber and Plastic

[frosty mirage]

This is my 1st setup without any alts

[surreal rose]

i calculated everything, they just misbehave

thats why i hate pipes

[ornate saffron]

that wasnt hating. Just a mk1 pipe thing

[ornate saffron]

The fluid Manual has much wisdom and Rituals

[zenith sage]

Wall/material clipping remains the biggest mystery of this game to me...

[frosty mirage]

I need to stop progressing and catch up, now that this is done I can continue the work on my iron factory, then I will probably need to start looking into heavy modular frame and computer factories 😭

[ornate saffron]

thats where im at

[frosty mirage]

And i also have the damn trains, not even sure if i should go for factories where i have the needed resources or rather to set up train infrastructure 😭

How you going about these more complex items?

[ornate saffron]

I build where the resources are then use trains to move parrtts

[surreal rose]

just make a bunch of train railway that don't connect

[surreal rose]

i never planned them untill i needed and by pure luck it happens that i have all resources for it

[ornate saffron]

Build factory where the most of the resources are train in what is needed. I never move water though. Build near water

[frosty mirage]

So you dont build hmf factory where you have all nodes close by, but rather transport from other factories?

[ornate saffron]

Well. You just need iron and coal really for HMF ya? so thats pretty easy to find close together

[frosty mirage]

True, but what about computers for example?

[surreal rose]

i just have core with complex items and something i need for building, other things for automation come from factories across the map

[frosty mirage]

Yea, thats what im thinking

[surreal rose]

i can make a vid and show you my little computer factory

[frosty mirage]

Im interested specifically in how you get the resources there

Nodes close by or trains

[surreal rose]

trains

[frosty mirage]

I think i need to learn trains

[surreal rose]

ignore normal and impure nodes

build factories ONLY on pure nodes untill there is no more pure nodes left

[ornate saffron]

Depends on waht resources you havea a abundance of. I have lots of Quartz so im using some alts that use a lot of quartz

[mortal ginkgo]

EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME

[surreal rose]

you too

[mortal ginkgo]

Take back what you said!

[reef basin]

why would you ignore perfectly fine normal and impure nodes

[frosty mirage]

I wouldnt ignore them tbh

I can just dump shards on normal

[surreal rose]

joke my love you carry my whole mk4 conveyors

[mortal ginkgo]

on a serious note, I think normal nodes are fine and impure nodes can be sent around via drones as extra.

normal nodes giving 600/min is still a good deal

[reef basin]

I just use whatever is available. I don't care what purity the node is, I just match what my factory needs. If it needs 450/min, I don't care it it comes from pure or impure (or multiple nodes)

[surreal rose]

well for trains i use only pure, if there normal or impure around i build very little factory there and deliver everything from there to train station

[frosty mirage]

I got the alt caterium circuit board, so i was thinking of trying smth with it

[frosty mirage]

Yea, thats most of my setups rn, but im only 120 hours into the game, i need to expand and i was curious on how you guys deal with expansion

[reef basin]

build near nodes, don't touch existing factories 🙂

[surreal rose]

#screenshots message thats my steel

[silver notch]

i need so much help

i cant figure out the aluminum

[ornate saffron]

Do you need the number for a mental health holiness?

[silver notch]

i need an adultier adult

[ornate saffron]

What part is causing issues?

[stable cloak]

probably the liquid product

That was my roadblock

[silver notch]

how to get the water to mix with the bauxite to mix with the coal to make the scrap to smelt with the quartzs to make the bits and bobs

[ornate saffron]

I assume as much but I like to ask

[silver notch]

i didnt design for this scenario

[stable cloak]

The refinery has a liquid and solid input

[silver notch]

everything is up and water is down now i need to make a down to ride with the up

[ornate saffron]

So get fresh water for your bauxite

Then with the water byproduct use it on any pure recipe or wet cement.

Heck you can package and sink it if you wish

[silver notch]

i hid all the problems and now i need to dissolve and redesign

[stable cloak]

most likely

[silver notch]

anyone willing to help?

[ornate saffron]

Oh, you mean actually joining you?

[stable cloak]

Mine was built in the sand below the bauxite node in the red forest

If I weren't miles away in my save, I'd send pictures

[silver notch]

if anyone is down ye but also i wouldnt mind a verbal explanation to my scenario

[ornate saffron]

So your biggest issue is the water byproduct yes?

What are you currently doing with it

[silver notch]

the worst that can happen is someone joins looks leaves and says no

[silver notch]

im not even there yet

[stable cloak]

You can, for the most part, put the refineries on the same level, feeding into each other.
Unless you;re using special recipes, the alumina produced can meet the alumina consumed by the second recipe

[ornate saffron]

Oh, then make a detailed post in #1038092680493801533 im at work but ill try and help

[silver notch]

idk what to ask

[ornate saffron]

Help with my Aluminum confusion

[stable cloak]

"how to lay out aluminum factory" works too

[ornate saffron]

Preferably with a British accent

[silver notch]

why british

y not pacific islander

[ornate saffron]

They pronounce aluminum differently and it drives some people nuts.

[silver notch]

aluminium

[ornate saffron]

Because that would make it sexy and this is supposed to be safe for work

[silver notch]

oh so southern cowboy would work

[surreal rose]

want to see my little computer factory?

it's pretty good if not my horrible plastic factory

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
so much concrete

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro saw the most beauitful and colorful coastline and said GREY FOUNDATIONS YOLOSWAGKEKBUR

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[stoic laurel]

i also cluster bombed all the foilage

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now you go jail

STRAIGHT to jail

Gulag is meant for people like you! 😭

[surreal rose]

built a beatiful railway across the forest and onto the mountain and somehow didn't notice sobersloop

[coral marsh]

I only use pure limestone nodes btw

[mortal ginkgo]

I only use ur mom LOL GOT'EM KEK BROTHERMAN ROLFSTOMP 😭 😭 😭

[coral marsh]

My mum is 54

[clear mesa]

Discombobulated him

[coral marsh]

Lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

Ah may she live a long and joyful life. ❤️

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message

[coral marsh]

Just finished piping 1.3km of oil

[mortal ginkgo]

were the nobelisks at his bum really needed?

[errant thicket]

getting to phase 3 and realising that i need to relearn oil manufacturing and train mechanics and weeping

[stoic laurel]

he was running away when i was throwing them, okay?

[coral marsh]

Joe dirt move

[mortal ginkgo]

If you are able to reach phase 3, that means you have what it takes to FINISH Phase 3.

Go go!

[stable cloak]

Not even an oil rig off the coast, just straight paving over coral

[mortal ginkgo]

Evil people always have an excuse. Also that means you chased after him. 2x evil = 2x gulag for you

[errant thicket]

is it a bad idea to just set my factory up and completely rely on smart splitter overflows?

[mortal ginkgo]

Brotherman saw the beautiful coast and said "beauty means nothing to me." 😭

[sweet light]

If sacrifice impure limestone to water does it then become impure concrete? 🤔

[mortal ginkgo]

using smart splitters where needed is pretty smart

[coral marsh]

Any British in the chat?

[errant thicket]

like i'm talking do no math think of no ratios just brute force everything to run entirely based on overflow splits?

[stoic laurel]

i saw a beautiful pond in the dune desert, i thought to myself, "i want to build a house here when i finish this game". then i found a pure node of copper and pulled out the nobelisks and started clearing everthing out to lay the foundation for a copper factory

[surreal rose]

#screenshots message rate this from 1 to 10

[mortal ginkgo]

It can work with priority mergers but you still need to do the thing that is DISGUSTING, HERETICAL and MADDENING thing called "Math" so that you dont go crazy with belt junctions

[stoic laurel]

9, not enough spaghetti

[coral marsh]

Needs more pipes

[mortal ginkgo]

I wonder why are you playing the game at its earliest stage where there is no foundations yet.

[surreal rose]

wdym

what is foundations?

never heard of it in my life

[errant thicket]

i'm basically going to need to rip up every factory i have and go again, for like the 30th time probably

[coral marsh]

The things pipes go on, pipes that you need more of

[surreal rose]

i have a very important question

[coral marsh]

Yes pipes are fun

[surreal rose]

should i go with 5th train just for plastic or think about signalling?

[surreal rose]

no, not funny at all.

[errant thicket]

i remember i've done signaling before and i tore my hair out for like 3 hours on a single junction

cant wait to do it all again

[coral marsh]

Melt the plastic and pump it through pipes (i promise im bored as shit and tired, I am not doing this to try and annoy you, im trying to make myself laugh not at anyone's expense)

[clear mesa]

Export ready made blueprints if you find it that difficult

[surreal rose]

i understand you

[pallid ridge]

Yep, i knew the risk of burn out

How much space does train need to rotate?

[mortal ginkgo]

But why cant we send screws via pipes? Are these devs just not capable of doing such a simple task?

[surreal rose]

use bi trains

[coral marsh]

Imagine actually being able to send screws through pipes assisted by water

[clear mesa]

3x2 foundations

[surreal rose]

no pipes

[errant thicket]

how large to clumps of molecules have to be before they're considered a solid and not a liquid

[pallid ridge]

For bi train, can it be locomotive - 4 freight - locomotive?

[clear mesa]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

"Wet Screws" alt recipe, you are hired, get to work

[surreal rose]

yes

[coral marsh]

Your detotation to pipe hating is fun lol

[coral marsh]

And its just molten, metal, HOLY SHIT THAT WOULD BE COOL

[pallid ridge]

Does the rear side contribute to the front side?

[mortal ginkgo]

We are both hired, lets get to work!

[surreal rose]

idk, but i guess so

[coral marsh]

That'd actually be really cool, being able to make metals molten and send them through pipes

[pallid ridge]

Alr

[pallid ridge]

3x2 as in 2 wide or 2 length?

[clear mesa]

Works either way

Just needs to be 3 on one and 2 on the other for the sharpest turn possible

[coral marsh]

The ratio could actually be really high too, you could use say 1³m of molten iron to make 1 thousand screws

[pallid ridge]

Alr, I'll make it 3x3

[surreal rose]

well at least rear side also has these 6 spinning hot things on sides of the train working and brakes work too

[pallid ridge]

What are those spinning stuff tho? I keep wandering what it is

[clear mesa]

Pretty sure it doesn't contribute in reverse

Otherwise you wouldn't need a train on the other side

[reef basin]

0, it can go backwards if you put engine on both ends

[surreal rose]

i think engines

[pallid ridge]

Engine such as piston?

But the train are electric

[surreal rose]

no the just rotating

don't forget everything in this game in future

[coral marsh]

Okay so, i use mods right? One of the alt recipes i have access to is "desulfation fuel" it uses 50 silica and 25 heavy oil residue per minute to make 50 fuel and 50 sulfur per minute, what yall think of the recipe (in a refinery)

[surreal rose]

nvm, almost everything

[mortal ginkgo]

Meh.

[coral marsh]

If we could make actual, irl refinery factories as small and compact as the satis ones, tech would become so much cooler

[surreal rose]

almost forgot to add that signals should be bi directional too

or at least tutorial said that

[pallid ridge]

Hmmmm

[clear mesa]

First we'd need build guns

[pallid ridge]

Well, I'll try it first

If it crash, then I'll learn

[surreal rose]

it will be pain dealing with train stations that are have train tracks that go in both ways tho

since you need to pray that your train will use correct order for stations and wont just stop with "can't reach the next station"

[pallid ridge]

Huh it can happen?

[surreal rose]

which is quite dumb and would be good if they fixed it

[surreal rose]

yeah since bi directional trains always change their direction and which train is in front

[surreal rose]

and actually only front train stops and chooses to dock while rear train does nothing in that situation

[coral marsh]

So theres a mod to make hard drives craftable in tier 9 (using the encoder), recipe is
7.5 neural quantim processors
7.5 super position oscillators
11.25 turbo motors
75 excited photonic matter
Per minute, honestly, that seems like a balanced recipe, cycle time is 80 seconds

[surreal rose]

does anyone know why trains sometimes instead of grabbing just container they grab whole docking station place it on freight cart and after place it back

[pallid ridge]

While im at it, any alternate recipe recommendation? I'm at tier 3 right now

[ornate saffron]

most people consider Heavy Oil Residue and Packaged Fuel musst haves

[surreal rose]

i wonder how many people know that they can use elevator as huge power pole

[ornate saffron]

Most i imagine

like Rails are huge power poles

[pallid ridge]

Even tho it's complicated?

[ornate saffron]

Phase 3 is a good time to learn these complex things as phase four builds on that knowledge

The game presesnts these Challanges to overcome and build your knowledge base.

I bleieve in you. You got this

[surreal rose]

deleting my fuel gens and coal gens the second i get nuclear energy

[surreal rose]

and anything related to pipes

[ornate saffron]

my Fuel atm is minimal using a fully overclocked extractor on a single node giving 300 oil. So ill be leaving it there when i go Nuclear

[ornate saffron]

so also your nuclear

[surreal rose]

how is nuclear related to pipes

[orchid pollen]

Water intake.

[surreal rose]

💔

[orchid pollen]

🤷‍♂️

[surreal rose]

nuclear energy working on coffe cups

[ornate saffron]

pain rocks heat water. water turns motor motor goes spark spark

[surreal rose]

i know how nuclear energy works in OUR world

i hate ada, couldn't it just make something without water

and pipes

[orchid pollen]

Same for Massage-2 (A-B)b

[surreal rose]

i know how to get plastic without pipes now

goodbye my plastic factory

[orchid pollen]

Fascinating.

I thought you needed oil to get plastic?

[surreal rose]

ficsit shop

[orchid pollen]

Ohhhhhh

But still, the AWESOME Sink needs a lot of good stuff to get tickets as often to got plastic.

So it would just be easier to just…. I dunno…. Do the pipes?

[surreal rose]

anything but no pipes

[orchid pollen]

What’s the problem with pipes anyway?

[surreal rose]

they misbehave

[orchid pollen]

I mean, occasionally. For me, they’re fiddly and annoying at times, especially when you blow your whole power grid and have to do On-Off-On multiple times just to get a single coal generator on.

Mmmm, hey, what’s 50 times 11 plus 37?

[void cliff]

push N and use the in game calculator

[orchid pollen]

…..

How do I use this in game calculator of console?

[surreal rose]

everyone

[orchid pollen]

Because I need to know how many Nobelisks I currently have made.

[ornate saffron]

math is my soulmate

[orchid pollen]

Damn.

I love this Bomb z factory I got up. Now if only my main factory worked.

[ornate saffron]

I dont have a main factory

[orchid pollen]

Really?

Let’s just say the whooooole reason I’m in love with the game comes from 2 insane YouTubers who both push their sanity.

[ornate saffron]

each factory does what it is designed to do. I Dont upgrade it or anything ince done i work on the next

most the factories before trains dont have much inter contected logistics either. they just fill my cloud storage and sink

[frosty mirage]

Yea shoot, show me

[orchid pollen]

I try my best. But it ended up a chaotic mess. It was working before I tried to set up a new plastic refinery.

[surreal rose]

alr

[orchid pollen]

But also Reggie.

[frosty mirage]

Sry i went on a big exploration and got absorbed in it, i just took a break now for a smoke

[surreal rose]

dw, check dm

[orchid pollen]

Oh god, I’m back at Home Base.

[frosty mirage]

Damn thats a lot of distance between stuff

[surreal rose]

not really, thats the closest pure ores that i found close to the core

[orchid pollen]

Yep.

[frosty mirage]

Understandable, i went exploring to find a good place where nodes are at least relatively close

[orchid pollen]

IFIXEDMYPOWERGRIDLETSGOOOOOOOO!

I left it alone for like 7 hours whilst I built my Nobelisk Plant, so my coal moved around. And now I got it back.

It kept breaking with my factory going from 600 to 1,300 when I was generating 1,070.

I use…. Oh what’s the bloody system called?

Where you let one fill up and it fills the next and so forth?

[toxic lichen]

so whats the use case for dd's

do you make a separate off-shoot of production going into them
or split off from your main prodcution into it

[mortal ginkgo]

manifold, aka sane setup

[orchid pollen]

Thank you!

[mortal ginkgo]

you can also manually refill coal bois btw to speed up the process.

[orchid pollen]

Yeah. I do that from time to time.

[surreal rose]

why can't i reload to pulse nobelisk>?

[reef basin]

I mean, main production is what goes to DDs 🙂

[toxic lichen]

i have 2 extract - 3 goal gens ;-;

[mortal ginkgo]

why am I in this sentence?

[mortal ginkgo]

hold R

[surreal rose]

thanks

[toxic lichen]

wait

imma use minecraft terms

do they work like ender chests
or

cause i know you can build with the stuff in it
but
if it works like ender chests too
that would be goated e'-e'

[reef basin]

You can manually take from dimensional storage from anywhere

And it gets auto-used when building things

[orchid pollen]

Funny Question real quick.
Approximately how dangerous is Satisfactory to someone with ASD?

[toxic lichen]

yes yes
but
say i place one to collect

can i place one that can pull from that same storage e'-e'
or nuh uh

[runic sage]

i started a new save a few days ago and i got reminded how hellish energy is 💔 i have over a million gw on my main

[elfin smelt]

how could it be dangerous you mean?

[orchid pollen]

yes.

[orchid pollen]

A milli-HUH?

[lunar python]

-# 1 thousand thousands

[runic sage]

all of the uranium into plutnium into ficsonium+some sloops on my uranium

[toxic lichen]

im forgetting my acronyms
whats ASD again

[orchid pollen]

In a few days?

[orchid pollen]

Autistic Spectrum Disorder

[rugged jasper]

good morning ☕

[toxic lichen]

ahhhh
i mean
in theory

the game could be your best friend

[orchid pollen]

Oh it’s Midnight. Eh, better keep playing.

[orchid pollen]

It already is, believe me.

[toxic lichen]

no danger in that

[elfin smelt]

how could a game like this be dangerous idk

[toxic lichen]

only costs your soul

[lunar python]

Half your brain

[toxic lichen]

i started with 2 braincells
I have 1 left

[elfin smelt]

the worst thing I can imagine is being addictive

[orchid pollen]

That’s what I mean.

[elfin smelt]

i see

[stoic laurel]

the one bad thing about cluster nobelisks is forgetting youre to close to it and you blow it up only to hit yourself twice with the inital explostion, then the second explosion

[orchid pollen]

I started with a brain cell. And I somehow got a second made only for the game.

[toxic lichen]

FICSIT would like a word with you

[stoic laurel]

comms are down, cant talk

[orchid pollen]

Albeit, the second brain cell doesn’t help me build my factories any better.

[runic sage]

no lol, my new save is up for a few days. i just reached fuel but i kinda speedran here so everything else is underdeveloepd 😭

[orchid pollen]

Wow

[toxic lichen]

so am i reliant on the power poles

i know about the MK2 and 3s
but
do i really have to have spaghetti wiring everywhere

[orchid pollen]

Nothing wrong with making Italian meals.

[dense violet]

no? just use mk1s right next to the machine

[orchid pollen]

I’ll try my best!

[runic sage]

i recommend to actually build factories with walls and roofs and then use wall outputs (also can place onroofs) in order to hide all the wires

[dense violet]

basically never use mk2 and 3s

[toxic lichen]

i like your funny words magic man

[runic sage]

hey most people just spaghetti everything 😭

[stoic laurel]

thats how i am, instead of optimizing my fuel and what i had in Phase 3, i rushed and pushed for Phase 4. now im optimizing fuel power before and factories from Phase 3 before i push into phase 4

[toxic lichen]

i understand all those words separately

[orchid pollen]

Are you supposed to push in this game?

[toxic lichen]

push?

[orchid pollen]

Wait, have I been playing wrong the whole time?

[runic sage]

my first save i kinda messed up all the time before nuclear power (i didnt even have alien tech upgraded) and made a 20gw nuclear powerplant at first 😭

[toxic lichen]

js so i have the conversion correct
20GW is 20,000 MW
yes?

[runic sage]

yeah, not much. about 4 ocd powerplants

[toxic lichen]

ic ic
i have uh
3 coal plants working at 200% ;-;

[void cliff]

All right, I'm totally on board for using sushi belts on my next save, but also think I'm going to use load balancers to split up high-throughput items like screws on the sushi belts 😄

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
@toxic lichen @orchid pollen this is my take on pushing, the side angle one is my ACU Factory and top down is my Modular Engine Factory

[toxic lichen]

idk what any of that means big man

[rugged jasper]

yes

[orchid pollen]

Ohhhhhh

[toxic lichen]

i still dont know what im looking at but we move

[stoic laurel]

they are making parts to move out of phase 3

[reef basin]

No

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'
ic

[orchid pollen]

Neither do I.

[toxic lichen]

</3

[reef basin]

It's for personal use only, but all your production is also, so it checks out

[stoic laurel]

is it me, or can we theoretically make a sundial that works in game?

[toxic lichen]

i dont doubt it

[void cliff]

you should try it. do research on how sundials actually work. I doubt there are seasons in the game, so it should be easy and possible 😄

[toxic lichen]

does that setting mess with their hit boxes?

[stoic laurel]

true, i was wondering because i saw the shadow of an arc that quite a ways away moving over me and that just put that thought into my head

[ornate saffron]

you now have the same amount of brainscells as a ginger cat

[toxic lichen]

wouldnt it make them
slightly harder to hit?
like with a rebar gun

[ornate saffron]

naw, things get sloppy that way. SOMETIMES ill upgrade the miners then shunt those excess resources elsewhere for a diffrent build thats it

[toxic lichen]

i see
im gonna turn it on
less creepy that way

walked into a cave with like 8 of the fuckers last night
noped tf out of there

[stoic laurel]

whether its with arachnophobia mode on or off, those little things are a pain to hit either way. ive always had an easy time hitting them with the rebar gun (since one shot then reloading sucked) but the rifle it feels like i miss more often than hitting them

[toxic lichen]

is there some way
to like see my saves stats e'-e'

[stoic laurel]

shudders at the gas spider

[toxic lichen]

kills on x
this many of y

sigh

games like this i really enjoy seeing stats
like x amount of iron mined

i pray

as any beloved game would have

[void cliff]

I like to explore early, often will bring 2 rebar guns (1 for stun rebar, 1 for shatter or standard rebar) and a xeno basher. bashers often seem like they are better for small spiders if you don't have explosives

[ornate saffron]

i do like exploring often and early.

naw, I dont use storage

[dire oar]

we should get world generation in 2.0

[toxic lichen]

wdym e'-e'

[surreal rose]

i just can't see beatiful place without imagining railways all around it

[dire oar]

?

[toxic lichen]

we have world ;-;

[zenith sage]

As in procedurally generated world option? Nah

[dire oar]

world generation

like in minecraft for example

[toxic lichen]

js make a dlc and a diff planet
problem solved

[dire oar]

every seed is different

[dire oar]

so you have two different maps

[toxic lichen]

yur

[dire oar]

and no infinite different maps

thats not the same thing

[toxic lichen]

the map being set is nice tho e'-e'

[zenith sage]

So yeah, procedurally generated, not gonna happen probably (devs even said so iirc)

[toxic lichen]

you can play atm10 in mc
youll get a similar-ish feel

all about automation

[zenith sage]

Besides, I don't think I've seen a good example of that in 3d games that are not just.. blocks

[real shale]

no mans sky

[toxic lichen]

technically
remnant from the ashes 1 and 2

but not quite the same there

its not infinite
but randomized based on options

[zenith sage]

Yeah, randomized "cells" are generally fine for finite/smaller worlds, but still not my favorite

[toxic lichen]

it does get a bit bothersome when you want something specific tbh

[zenith sage]

And repetitive.. and boring after a while

[toxic lichen]

and both remnants are
small worlds
not big expansive

[void cliff]

would be awesome to have randomized worlds. In many games the developer makes tilesets that can be randomly thrown together to give the world that random appearance. There's still a lot of hand-crafting the world, but they are done so modularly so that they can be arranged randomly

[toxic lichen]

they can re-use assets
make a couple new ones for some extra variation
ez pz

but understand why they wont as well

[void cliff]

the problem becomes that it feels like modular tilesets and less like a unique world

[zenith sage]

Who needs randomized world when we have a world filled with random spider infested caves

[ornate saffron]

that and i use power Switches to manage things. Making anything i never want to black start like power plants the Highest priority so if i do forget about power i have a safety net

[ornate saffron]

the map is handcrafted and well designed to work with the phases for example most of the Bauxite is found high up in the center making it so the player needs to figure out the logistics around that.

I like it the way it is. I understand why ppl want more.... but im sure the modding community can make up for that need

[night sail]

Hello I am new to the game

[toxic lichen]

oh no
you misunderstand me

i love the way the world is and wouldnt change it

just adding to how they could go about it

[ornate saffron]

I personally would rather another hand crafted map then them spends time on randomly generated ones

[toxic lichen]

i feel the same way

which is why i brought up possible DLC with a new planet
or
they could do it on another continent of this world

[void cliff]

I'd love paid DLC 🙂 let's goooooo

[ornate saffron]

my Gen Z coworkers think its wierd i want a Paid exspansion. But i come from a time When there was no dlc. they were full upgrades to the game adding a equivalent or more content for the same or lesser price

[toxic lichen]

but you gotta respect what a randomly generated world could bring
chances are you could find a spot with 1 of each node
js right there

[void cliff]

any game that I've put over even like 200 hours into it, I'm happy to support the devs even with supporter DLC.

[toxic lichen]

i understand DLCs
Except in certain cases

Like destiny 2
where they lock story / lore behind it
and also feels like power shifts when a dlc drops

[ornate saffron]

naw the RNG gods no like me lol

[toxic lichen]

youll just find 50 copper nodes clustered together

[ornate saffron]

50 @mortal ginkgo

[toxic lichen]

lmfao

[ornate saffron]

we can have a sleep over

pour vineger all over the place

[toxic lichen]

huh e'-e'

vinegar?

[zenith sage]

Meanwhile now I see more DLCs that are more expensive than the game itself, since the base game is usually on discounts...

[toxic lichen]

that is an unfortunate trend ive been seeing as well

[south sinew]

you're getting a great deal on the base game in those cases

[void cliff]

I think a lot of games have DLC bloat, like helldivers 2, but I feel like those games don't have any important overarching reason to play them. You're just pointlessly doing the same thing over and over and over and the DLC just adds different ways to do that. Satisfactory is honestly my first factory game, but I'm totally addicted to the loop of it. Craftsmanship, aesthetics, factory optimization, I want to learn all of it like a psychopath. It's such a deep game with so many different ways to do everything. I wish the combat was better and a bigger part of the game, but I still love the combat and the exploration (even as I am starting to memorize most of the map areas after 800 hours in the game

[south sinew]

and as for whether or not the DLC is a great deal, it's tricky depending on specifics but Factorio Space Age for example would be quite worth

[toxic lichen]

didnt that add like
5 new worlds?

[toxic lichen]

makes me grateful for games like warframe
everything is ftp ;-;

no dlc
just vibes
anything you can buy you can earn the in game curreny to buy yourself

[void cliff]

HD2 technically is the same way, and I have paid for some extras in the game. I certainly had fun and played it over 300 hours, but just got tired of the cycle with it

[toxic lichen]

think youd get tired of warframe
i have 2000 hours ;-;

[void cliff]

haven't touched it, haha...

[toxic lichen]

its great
if youre up for the time investment

[stoic laurel]

i had to stop playing warframe, because id spend to much trying to get prime warframes

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'
getting the primes isnt super hard tho e'-e'

i have all of em except gyre which is the newest one

riven gambling funded that expenditure tho

[ornate saffron]

Fun fact about Satisfactory. Sulfer is completely optional

[toxic lichen]

i had half of them
or 3/4

it was just the older / vaulted ones i had difficulty sourcing

[void cliff]

as are all alternate recipes, but I can't imagine playing without some of them, haha...

[toxic lichen]

on that topic

is it better to go for the ones that are more/min
or
whichever is easier to produce the components

[ornate saffron]

I was just raking my brain on sulfer as i cant remember using it at all during my first playthrough

[void cliff]

my opinion: More per minute and simpler recipes are my favorite.

more per minute means they are easier to stick in a blueprint

[toxic lichen]

hmmmmmm

[ornate saffron]

whichever fits your situation. REcipies that just produce more often cost more power

there is always a tradeoff

[toxic lichen]

or more material

got one for reinforced iron plates
3 per craft
but like 4x the amount of screws

[void cliff]

my HMF blue print uses the standard recipe, 750 iron ore, 150 limestone to make 2 HMF/min. Takes like 65 power shards, I believe, too.

[ornate saffron]

ya i often getthat before i have belts that can support it lol

[toxic lichen]

i still dont have the belts to support it i think

especially cause i like to set the more expensive items to 200%

like modular frames

[zenith sage]

Isn't caterium optional too then?

[toxic lichen]

(i know they arent that expensive)

[void cliff]

I think it's still needed even with alts. AI units, high-capacity cards or whatever they are called

[stoic laurel]

i was playing before rivens, so you were farming parts from just void relics or hoping someone has it in the ingame market that you buy it from was a pain for me. sure i couldve bought the whole prime whenever they did a sale like that, but that would take the fun out of the farm

[south sinew]

they added more content in the expansion than was in the base game, and they both cost the same price

[toxic lichen]

i got most of my primes before i touched rivens in any case
good ol relic farming there as well

[toxic lichen]

never use scam chat
always use warframe.market

[void cliff]

yeah mark 5 belts were required to make that blueprint in a mk2 blueprint. I think i used cast screws alt and bolted frames, iron pipes, encased pipes. Only had 3 assemblers on the roof (one for each sub-component)

[stoic laurel]

its been a long while since ive played, last time i played i went back to try out the flying bit for it

[toxic lichen]

oh youre that kind of og

[surreal rose]

why conveyor markers suddenly disappear?(like when you placing splitter or merger in front of for example assembler there line from assembler to splitter but now there isn't one)

[toxic lichen]

did you nudge it by mistake?

[south sinew]

that usually means they no longer line up properly

or you are placing a merger at the input instead of the output or something like that

[surreal rose]

they don't work like that, if 2 inputs/outputs in front of each other there normal line, if 1 input and 1 output there like mini lines

[stoic laurel]

yeah, my cousin tried to get me to come back to play it with him last year. but i knew if i did id get sucked back in hardcore

[surreal rose]

not by mistake, i usually nudge it

[toxic lichen]

i dropped an extra 1800 hours into the game after my last break up

games a good place to just
mindlessly grind

[stoic laurel]

Synoid Simulator + Mirage on survival endless killing

[toxic lichen]

afk octavia on survival >

[toxic lichen]

it recently got an augment mod that makes it stronger (recently is like, last year)

[surreal rose]

made ai limiters

now only random cubes left

[stoic laurel]

the last time i played i had finally finshed my Rhino Prime build and gotten the Iron Shrapnel mod for him

[toxic lichen]

a superb choice

[west eagle]

Do you think an alternative recipe for nuclear waste recyclement, where the outputs are less uranium and a lot of water woulbe too op? From a logical point, nuclear waste also consists of heavy water that's contaminated by neutrons and that is what big nuclear powerplants do with the cooling towers to cycle the water

[blissful fable]

should i get into making train lines? i have trains unlocked

[stoic laurel]

whats your power like?

[blissful fable]

but I haven't really touched them

15-17K power

[stoic laurel]

oh .-.

then go ham

[blissful fable]

what power did you think i had lol couple thousand lol

[stoic laurel]

seeing as youre asking about if you should do trains now, i figured around what i have so 9-10

[blissful fable]

i re did my fuel plant recently

[void cliff]

trains are really where I think it's best to stop thinking about where to build factories and more about logistics. Factories can be built in the most convenient locations if you have good logistics and trains set up. Liquids, however, are not great to transport with trains, so typically you build factories near water and oil.

[unkempt blade]

Trains are fun. You should use them as soon as you have extra power to run them

[rugged jasper]

I build a train few hours ago just to transport myself from factory to factory.
but it is awful 😄

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
thats why im concreting the entire northern beach, my fuel gens arent cutting it to supply me power. and if i were to run everything full boar, id just trip my power.

or if it decided to run all at once

[glad carbon]

You know you won at life whenever you are making more supercomputers than you can physically use

[void cliff]

I wish trucks and tractors would auto-drive with you at the wheel -.-

[unkempt blade]

Trains work fine with liquids. Just depends how much you need. Any cluster of oil nodes could easily be moved with a train route

[stoic laurel]

YES PLEASE

[glad carbon]

And i still havent moved on from biofuel as my piwer source

[void cliff]

it's just that an oil node putting out 600 m3/min fills a liquid freight car in 3 minutes, so you either need a ton of liquid freight cars or a ton of trains making the transportation. or packaging

[glad carbon]

Im making 89k MW off biomass

And then another 18k just with power augmenters lol

[void cliff]

very nice, are you using biomass burners with liquid biofuel? using animal protein as the primary source?

[rugged jasper]

Cute ^^

[unkempt blade]

yeah exactly, more than you'd need for just about anything but water for a nuclear plant 😆

[glad carbon]

Biomass burners, i have like 600 full sluged ones with a fully slooped fuel creatiol system

It lasts about 18 hours per refuel

And it runs the game like a power point presentation

[void cliff]

yeah I figure you would have to sloop it at every stage. Biomass burners are way better than biofuel fuel generators because they don't waste biofuel, but you can still burn packaged biofuel in them

[glad carbon]

I would do coal, but i need every last drop of coal for my entire steel plant im working on

Making like 15k a min of steel

Using about 14.5k

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman why are you not using fuel at least?! D:

[glad carbon]

It works

[void cliff]

slooping remains into animal protein (2x), slooping animal protein into biomass (2x) slooping biomass into solid biomass (2x) slooping solid biomass into liquid biomass (2x) means you get 16 times as much biofuel, I can see it scaling pretty well

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
groans in 40K concrete need moar

[glad carbon]

Plus using power shards fir everything

[void cliff]

yeah you have to get the most out of your sloops as they are limited

[glad carbon]

I have

19 full industrial crates of sloops

I am okay

[mortal ginkgo]

wat....

[glad carbon]

I bathe in sloops

[mortal ginkgo]

oh AGS used.. I mean.. you can yolo I guess.

[glad carbon]

Btw i only, and i mean only dupe sloops and shards

I like using lots of them so

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman you are using the only items that cant be replicated. saying this not making it any less kek-worthy

I will still kek at you.

Kek.

[glad carbon]

Buhh, i just want a massive biome sized factory 😭😭

[spare cradle]

Are sloops like a 300% mode or something?

[glad carbon]

Spent the last 18 hours covering 20% of the map in foundations

The sloops are there for emotional support

[mortal ginkgo]

Please tell me at least its not 1m FICSIT foundation you used and something else...

[glad carbon]

4m conc

[mortal ginkgo]

ok you are redeemed

me forgiv u

[glad carbon]

And then custom truck highways cuz why not

[spare cradle]

Oh heh, then I'ma keep to my industrial shenanigans

[blissful fable]

since i havent touched trains i have no idea what to do with them

[glad carbon]

Make them go down a ramp from heigh limit to see if they can reach mach 1

[mortal ginkgo]

imagine you need to send stuff from one place to another via ultra long belt.

now imagine thats a train instead. ❤️

[white dawn]

Need to move some material from A to B, where the distance inbetween is somewhere north of 1km? A train'll sort you out!

It's just another logistics method, alongside belts/pipes, vehicles, and (in Phase 4) drones

Trains have the major advantage of becoming more and more useful the more you build out the infrastructure. You build one little bit of rail to support a single transfer, and then a hundred hours later that same track is carrying a staggering amount of throughput from other transfers as well

The disadvantage is it is an awful lot of work to get the track laid down, and there's a nontrivial amount of learning how to work with them

[hollow bay]

43200MWH should be enough to get nuclear power started right?

it's actually 49300MWH

[mortal ginkgo]

quite alot tbh so yep

[blissful fable]

whats the build height limit?

[hollow bay]

is it really that much? seems kinda small to me but I don't really know how good that really is

[spare cradle]

It is a height

[glad carbon]

5k is enough for like 3 reactors for me, so how many you making?

[spare cradle]

Build up from the desert and find out

[mortal ginkgo]

its fine if you dont insta use the entire uranium 😛

[hollow bay]

quite a lot more than 3

[hollow bay]

that actually was my plan..

[glad carbon]

Double the space elevator package sending unti

[hollow bay]

welp

[mortal ginkgo]

Scale up one step at a time, let a set of reactors be the kickstarter of next etc

[hollow bay]

yea true

[glad carbon]

I should make a space eleveator made of biomass burners

[tired cypress]

Height limit is approximately "way the heck up there"

[mortal ginkgo]

also have a switch to toggle of nuclear reactors off if your math etc was wrong about calculating waste etc.

[mortal ginkgo]

Dear Lord have mercy upon thy soul

[hollow bay]

yea switches are a must at that point

[half jackal]

Maybe a dumb question but I have a priority power switch with on the A side my power plant and on the b side my factory. When I turn the switch off the factory goes down as expected, but when i turn it back on the power plant also goes down and i have to turn it back on on a power pole and then everything works again. Am i doing something wrong? Or is this a known bug?

[tired cypress]

(and "way down there")

[blissful fable]

i started in the rocky desert and am currently somewhere green with 8 small craters?

[glad carbon]

I have lizard doggos for nuclear waste

[blissful fable]

and 1 with sam in it

[mortal ginkgo]

ok you go jail now

[stoic laurel]

you can ride the HUBs rocket up like halfway up the space elevator roughly before you hit the death zone

[glad carbon]

That is if i chose to use that strat

[stoic laurel]

just know youll probably get stuck in it if you ride the HUB rocket

[tired cypress]

Are you tripping a fuse?

[glad carbon]

Orrre i could place another 1000 biomass burner

[half jackal]

not that i know off, i'm just turning on and off the power switch, all the batteries are also on the power plant side so they should catch any spike.

[tired cypress]

Could be your factory has several machines idle because their output is full. Turn off the power, output drains into storage or whatever, turn it back on, they all start back up and draw more power than before

But that does sound like some kind of bug

[surreal rose]

place another 1000 biomass burners bc they don't use pipes

[half jackal]

tnx, at least i know it's not me 🙂

[glad carbon]

Bro pipes are so easy if biomass burners costed pipes id love em just as much

[surreal rose]

i hate pipes for a reason

[tired cypress]

Turning power on shouldn't be turning anything off unless a fuse trips (and it tells you when that happens)

Unless maybe there's priority power switch shenanigans going on? One is seeing overload and automatically turning off when another comes on?

[glad carbon]

Yall know the swamp region?

It so nice when its a concrete slab

[stoic laurel]

you know the northern beach?

[glad carbon]

Yup

[stoic laurel]

its so nice when its a concrete slab

[glad carbon]

Yknow basically the entire right hand side of the map?

I love when its a concrete slab

I just wanna say im still placing the foundations

[tired cypress]

Yknow anywhere with spiders or hatchers? So nice when it's a concrete slab with powered machines so they don't spawn

[glad carbon]

Im actually running a powerpoint presentation

[mortal ginkgo]

I hope you get bonked by the gentleman above.

[stoic laurel]

ill bonk him witha nobelisk

[glad carbon]

Ill bonk back with a freindly pile of totally not armed nuke nobelisks

[elfin monolith]

That's exactly how I handled my Compacted Coal production, minus the slab. I actually put the coal on a small detour just so I could place the Assembler in such a way that it would block out a couple annoying Hatchers.

[glad carbon]

Yknow, i should probably start doing quartz

I have unlocked one thing in the mam for quartz

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
this is my Dune Desert slabish

[tired cypress]

You should definitely unlock more Quartz stuff. One of the best items is there.

[glad carbon]

I know, im on my second playthrough

I just cant be bothered since i got free blade runners

[radiant torrent]

yall i have 2 questions
first, do pipe manifolds work? and if they do, does it really take THAT much longer for the whole thing to fill up compared to belts?
second, for my coal generators (8 of them), i made the water manifold come from the left (first coal gen) and the coal belt manifold coming from the right (8th coal gen), will the manifold mess up considering the complete opposite ammount of resources on each side?

[stone python]

manifolds (assuming you are feeding the correct amounts, and not violating max pipe throughout) will evetunally saturate and be at 100% uptime on all machines, regardless of if you feed both from 1 side, or from opposite sides

[white dawn]

Yes, pipe manifolds do work, though remember that a coal generator requires 45/min water. 8 of them means you need 360/min water total, but the max throughput for a mk1 pipe is 300/min. You can't supply 8 coal gens (at 100% clock) with a single feeder pipe! There's various ways to pipe it that work -- if you want a cheatsheet, search for CG on the wiki. There's various workable diagrams at the bottom of the page. But you could feed the pipe manifold from both ends via 2 total pipes, as well

[radiant torrent]

i completely forgot to check the capacity of the pipes bruh 😭

[white dawn]

(Also: with pipes we generally recommend totally flooding the system before actually turning things all the way on. Full pipes are happy pipes. With power-generation machines, you can flip them to "standby" and they'll still accept material into their buffers, so that's an easy way to accomplish it when them)

[stoic laurel]

i would consider looping the end of the manifold back towards the beginning, or sectioning off the water extractors to send water to both ends and middle of the pipes at the coal gens
#screenshots message this is how i have 16 coal gens running

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's a lot of ways to pipe chunks of 8 coal gens which will work fine; the key is just making sure that no single segment of pipe needs to carry more than 300/min for everything to get what it needs

[stone python]

all the homies LOVE looping

[radiant torrent]

then shouldn't this #screenshots make it so that it doesn't need more than 300 for the pipe? it splits twice in the beggining so the rest of the coal gens shouldn't need more than the capacity, unless i'm wrong

[stoic laurel]

are those two pipes on the bottom from other water extractors?

[radiant torrent]

yes

1 extractor on the left, 2 on the bottom

[stoic laurel]

move them down the line, the right pipe put it on the end (coal gen 8) and the middle on in the middle of coal gen 4 and 5

[keen lion]

8 hours of playtime and already at tier 3 haven't reached phase 2 yet tho

[glad carbon]

Holy i forgot how fast i can play the game, in 8 hours i was phase 4 lmao

[white dawn]

Start a #1038092680493801533 thread with more-complete screenshots of the setup. :) Photo mode can help

(Whenever you've got pipe or train problems specifically, pictures are almost always needed, which means #1038092680493801533 is the best place to ask 'em. :)

[radiant torrent]

yee i'll do that next time, now i think it's solved

thanks for the help

[stoic laurel]

that scared me, was phasing through me pipes

[glad carbon]

Nah worst thing to happen

Is whenever my mergers and spliters

Are offset by 2 half nudges

So i gotta nudge every single one

[hidden pebble]

When i put uranium fuel rod maximise i get 50.4 /min, but when i do uranium and plutonium fuel rods together, input 2520 nuclear waste and set to maximise, satisfactory tools gives 16 UFR and 16 PFR per min. Why? (Note, i have proper alts enabled. Fertile uranium is deactivated.)

[white dawn]

"Maximize" on sftools doesn't do what you expect with multiple outputs. It can't know what "ratio" you want the two to be at, so it just defaults to equal

[glad carbon]

Wait a minute, i could use biocoal recipe

[white dawn]

So whichever one happens to work out to a lower amount ends up "clamping" the other one to the same rate

[glad carbon]

And get

MORRE POWWAAAA

[white dawn]

To use an example I actually set up just yesterday: if I restrict Iron Ore to 60/min but leave Crude Oil at the default (12,600/min) and "maximize" both Iron Plates and Plastic, you'll see that it only gives you 40/min of each: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xk5ClW0SNQM2fgXk6rzN

If you want to maximize more than one resource in sftools, what you've gotta do is maximize one first, and then switch it over to target the computed max value explicitly. So maximize U. Rods (to get the 50.4/min answer), and then switch the maximize dropdown to items/min and plug in 50.4. At that point you can add in your waste and maximize for Pu. Rods

Though remember that there's an inherent prioritization which happens there -- the maximization for the first resource could end up eating into resources that the second maximization would otherwise want to use. I don't think that U/Pu have too much contention between 'em though

[vale bone]

Hi

[glad carbon]

Ello

[ornate saffron]

Hi

[void cliff]

do you guys maximize production lines and just send overflows on every manifold to the sink to maintain flat efficiency power curves? Even though sinking doesn't seem like efficiency to me...

[glad carbon]

I make sure my factory take 0.5 a min of every resource in case

To make sure a overflow never happens

[zenith pecan]

Sinking is still a net positive due to the coupons which can be used for other things,

[glad carbon]

How much points do uranium fuel rods give?

[zenith pecan]

!wikisearch awesome_sink

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome_sink

[zenith pecan]

There is a table for items there.

[lunar python]

You could have linked the exact item they were asking for tho

[zenith pecan]

Ahh nuts, I didn't see the individual pages had a points value shown, Uranium Fuel Rod can be sunk into the AWESOME Sink to yield 43,468 points. , now I know 🤦‍♂️

[glad carbon]

So

Rather than making nuclear power

I continue with biomass

And sink the uranium produce

[white dawn]

I mean, you could have done that too, and the answer given was more general

[zenith pecan]

You could use the uranium, and the best recipe to maximise plutonium and sink the individual rods for 153,184 points each.

[zenith pecan]

Tbh the main point is I didn't realise each page had a sink value shown which is why I linked the sink and its table.

[void cliff]

wow I did not realize how many points plutonium fuel rods give, that's amazing.

[white dawn]

Yeah, though I still think that linking to the table is actually a more useful answer. :)

[zenith pecan]

You need to keep in mind, you'll need to use alts to maximise plutonium production if you want to go that route, you don't get many plutonium rods from 100 reactors of uranium with defaults, like 5.

[white dawn]

(Plus "you didn't help that person well enough" type statements are kind of a bugbear of mine. :)

[zenith pecan]

True.

[glad carbon]

Profit is profit, count me in

[void cliff]

alt recipes are my favorite things to go crazy with. Gotta use up all the COKE alts on the next playthrough

[zenith pecan]

My old save produced 5.25 plutonium rods after reprocessing 1050 uranium waste per minute, I used defaults as it was intended to minimise waste rather than maximise coupons.

[zenith pecan]

My current save turns leftover oil into coke that feeds my bauxite refinery, and the leftover makes time crystals.

[glad carbon]

I love i got alt crystal oscilator recipes before the main recipe itself

[void cliff]

ahh yes, I'm familiar with the coke aluminum ingot factory but haven't used it, simply because of logistics. That's the main reason I havent used many of the oil-component-alts, because they add more logistics to the game and I haven't set up an entire infrastructure for it

[zenith pecan]

I switched to coke because the resources for it were just to the south, it would have taken more effort to move coal, and I would have produced fewer aluminium ingots, that was just the circumstances of my refinery location.

[unkempt blade]

Coke is such a great recipe. It's nearly as good as cast screws which is a high compliment

[zenith pecan]

It made sense for me, as I used sloppy+pure, so throwing coke in meant 12300 Bauxite in, 12300 Ingots out.

[leaden turret]

-# insert obvious pepsi joke here

[unkempt blade]

is pepsi still the charcoal of soda recipes?

[leaden turret]

soda recipes are for glass, not coalgens 😛

[hidden pebble]

I have a weird problem in tools. Enabling silicon circuit boards makes tools calculate max product but the moment i uncheck it, it revamps the whole production chain🤣. Silica isn't even a central component

[glad carbon]

I forget the uses of silica other than building 😔

[zenith pecan]

That's why I used it, it eliminated the need for me feeding quartz.

Np.

[hidden pebble]

Such a hu tao thing to say

[glad carbon]

Ngl silica resembles closley to another white brick

[hidden pebble]

I would snort silica

[glad carbon]

Fair 🤣

[hidden pebble]

But that glass needs to be blue in colour and 99% pure

[glad carbon]

Close enough

[surreal rose]

place a bunch of plastic on window frame and draw picture of outside view on that plastic

[zenith pecan]

That uranium was used for glazing pottery in the past is wild.

[west plaza]

The Stator isn't used in any building or tool crafting is it? Just purely an interim resource to make other stuff in a factory?

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, stators were once used for poer stores before 1.0, now not a stored item.

[west plaza]

So I don't need to make any to store?

[void cliff]

I still upload them to the DD, never know when you're going to need a bunch of motors

[zenith pecan]

Correct 🙂

[unkempt blade]

It's like they don't want us to have any fun. Stators were clearly the item with the best shape which is why they got rid of that use

[surreal rose]

why you need stators in DD, put motors in DD

[void cliff]

I wish stators had more alts.... no idea why you'd ever want to use the caterium alt

[void cliff]

what if my storage bin runs out of motors!?!? 🙂 I just made a huge refinery!

[unkempt blade]

Motors are just wasted space.

[surreal rose]

they used in buildings

[unkempt blade]

totally wasted space

[surreal rose]

there infinite space in dd

[unkempt blade]

no there isn't

[surreal rose]

i mean you can store literally every resource in game

except liquid

[zenith pecan]

Can kinda store liquid too, you just need to package it.

[stone python]

not at all, any item directly involved in building buildings is worth putting in the DD

[unkempt blade]

and I don't upload motors because of it's scroll time I don't want to spend and they're totally wasted item space

[surreal rose]

stacks for ONE resource is limited but how many resources you can get there is infinite

[glad carbon]

I mean the dimensional depot restocks on a resource at a rate of 2400 per minute its not really wasted space is it?

[void cliff]

Need to make at least 1200 motors/min uploading to 5 DD's to meet my motor needs

[zenith pecan]

I wish they allowed us to re-order the items in the depot, I know you can favourite stuff but even that order is meh.

[unkempt blade]

that's employee thinking not executive thinking

[surreal rose]

you do realise buildings use resources straight out of dd?

[unkempt blade]

Why would I want that to happen? I put them there for a reason

[void cliff]

max upload rate is 240, but yeah

[clear mesa]

What's the reason if not to use them

[glad carbon]

Not if i use 10 DD per resource

[surreal rose]

you need motors for a reason and that reason is building not storing

[unkempt blade]

feng shui

[void cliff]

you are absolutely winning, then!

[stone python]

the whole point of the DD is to upload resources to use with your build gun, so im confused why you are so adamant that it is wasted space

[void cliff]

pretty sure it was sarcasm the entire time, and it keeps going.

[stone python]

you might be right, but you never know anymore LOL

[glad carbon]

Tbf i only use large amounts for conc, i got like a whole splitter setup to get me like 300 conc per second

[surreal rose]

i'm totally sure, anything just not to do these stupid tests

[zenith pecan]

The Depot is nice for ammunition too, you never again have to return to the armoury, just grab a stack of bullets and things which go kaboom from the uploads.

[dark eagle]

yo guys, first time finding a power required drop pod. how do i do it? it needs 85mw

[void cliff]

the depot is cheating, I will refuse to do things the easy way going forward

[surreal rose]

just connect to power grind, open and disconnect

[glad carbon]

You bring power to it, or make power at it

[zenith pecan]

Carry mats for three biomass burners and a little fuel.

[stone python]

conc is one where i use at least 5 depots because you can blow threw a CRAZY amount of conc laying foundations, especially if you use infinite zoop

[surreal rose]

trash the whole map with power poles

[dark eagle]

i did four and 16 biomass in each and they all kept breaking down

[zenith pecan]

Done that before, I don't like demolishing the resulting rats nest later on.

[zenith pecan]

Hoverpack equipped?

[dark eagle]

nope

[glad carbon]

Yea, like the factory i got working on be using just shy of 190000 conc to build, making those trips back and forth would be too much

[dark eagle]

i mean i'll try again but

wait let me send a video hold on i wanna know what im doing wrong or if its bugged

[zenith pecan]

Some pods require a LOT of power, each is different.

If I remember correctly, at least one needs 300mw.

[surreal rose]

bring power poles

[void cliff]

besides concrete, stack size also plays a factor. If I want to be able to upload the same amount of stacks per minute, i need more for concrete and wire, plain and simple

[stone python]

100%, both the DD upgrades are a factor

[dark eagle]

okay the thing is. ive done it now

but the thing im confused about is

i did four biomass burners, and did the same thing as ive just done. and it didnt work.

but then when i do three

it works

[glad carbon]

#screenshots i need opinions on where i should build the copper part of this facotry

Factory*

[zenith pecan]

Huh?

[dark eagle]

guys what alt do i choose

iron wire or steel rotor

they both good

[glad carbon]

Imma say rotor

[hidden pebble]

Which one do you need now?

[glad carbon]

Cuz copper is easy asf

[dark eagle]

true

and getting screws out the way will be swag

[dark eagle]

idk tbh

[hidden pebble]

Then keep it on hold for now

[dark eagle]

alrighti

[hidden pebble]

It's this time of the game play. I need a lot of quickwire. Do i:

1. Bring all required caterium and copper to an area and do the manufacturing (consolidated but lot of transport)
2. Manufacture and make whatever resources i have anywhere and then transport the finished products (efficient but fragmented)

[rain hollow]

what's the weird gray biome with a lake that has one pure geyser in the middle and right on the edge of it where it's still all green there's four normal iron nodes?

[zenith pecan]

Make the quackwire on site where it's used, quickwire is like the screws in that they take up loads of belt bandwidth, so you're better off moving the ingots.

[mystic crag]

Made 40k power with 1 pure oil😁

[rain hollow]

Over clocking and somersloops?

[mystic crag]

Yeah

[rain hollow]

Figured

[mystic crag]

Only use 16 so

[rain hollow]

You know I've recently realized you can make a lot of different items with just iron

[zenith pecan]

If it were possible, I would have had twice the number of fuel generators at my power station by slooping all the blenders 😄

[rain hollow]

Just need a lot of it

I need to unlock rocket fuel so I can finally finish the fuels branch of the sulfur research tree

[zenith pecan]

But 96 sloops just wouldn't fly 🙂

[rain hollow]

It would be a miracle if someone could find that many somersloops

[unkempt blade]

I would never!

[zenith pecan]

There are 106 on the map, I did end up with more due to them respawning exactly once, but yeah no, I can't do that.

[rain hollow]

I'm very annoyed about how long it's going to take before I reach nuclear now that I've finished phase 3... I WANT NUKES!

[unkempt blade]

enjoy the game, don't need to rush the fun out of it

[rain hollow]

But I want nuuuukes...

[unkempt blade]

prepare to be disappointed!

[zenith pecan]

The nuclear devices in game are just not worth it, go go clusters.

[unkempt blade]

It's not a combat focused game so all the weapons just aren't very exciting imo

[zenith pecan]

I get that, I still favour clusters, those are quite cool and hit a wide area.

[glad carbon]

The underrated explosive rebar in the backround

Wait can i deconstruct the space elevator and keep the progress?

I wanna use it as decor

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, you can move the space elevator & even the hub without messing anything up.

[glad carbon]

Also, see the alien power augmenter, whats the input for?

[zenith pecan]

The input allows for, erk forgot what its called, but it causes the augmenter to boost power by 30% instead of the baseline 10%, if I remember, the item isn't cheap material wise to make, one moment.

Found it: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alien_Power_Matrix

[glad carbon]

Time crystals?

Oh power matrix

[zenith pecan]

I'd forgotten what it was called haha, I had to look it up.

[ornate saffron]

I don't forsee me needing more then 50 sloops. But I somehow use all 106 ill just put a few stacks in my inventory

[lunar python]

50 turbomotors per minute

[ornate saffron]

Much motor. Turbo parts

[zenith pecan]

How if they aren't there?

[ornate saffron]

Advanced options.

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, I don't use it.

[ornate saffron]

Ive only used it in creative mod. Not in a real save.

[zenith pecan]

I do have a creative save, it's sole purpose is easy blueprint creation.

I just don't play at all with it.

[ornate saffron]

Having a creative save is nice whenever I break something or I can figure something out. Or to make blueprints

[glad carbon]

You can transfer bluprints?

[ornate saffron]

On pc absolutely

[zenith pecan]

Yes, you have to copy the blueprint files from one save folder to the other (on pc)

[glad carbon]

Crys in playstation 😭😭😭

[keen vault]

should i build 1 big factory for all things or split each ore into a factory and what should i use the trains for?

[ornate saffron]

That depends. Many factories spread out is much easier on your pc

[keen vault]

my pc can tank it

[lunar python]

1 big factory = much lag & many transport lines

[zenith pecan]

D'oh!, I just looked it up, yeah can't copy blueprints on playstation 🙁

[ornate saffron]

As for trains. Thats up to you. You can beat the game without them

[keen vault]

also should i move my factory?

[keen vault]

but me like train

[glad carbon]

Tbh i basically play in creative mode i have that much resources so using creative isnt really a necesity

[ornate saffron]

Many answers are based on all the actions you took in the game. So it is hard to answer such broad questions

[zenith pecan]

Did you mean you don't play creative but are swamped with resources?

[glad carbon]

Yes

[zenith pecan]

Cheers for the clarification, the statement as read was confusing because it stated you play creative, but dont need creative 😛

[keen lion]

playing jumping rope with the line between addiction and dedication huh?

[ornate saffron]

While playing hopscotch and chewing gum

[zenith pecan]

One thing I had to build multiple depots for was concrete, I have a dedicated plant just for construction materials 🙂

[glad carbon]

Tbh its not hard getting through the first few phases, i just collect 5 hard drives and the resources around them before doing hub upgrade 6 and then im scot free to speeding through to the next phases lmao

[keen vault]

which area is best for a factory?

[versed mesa]

👋

[glad carbon]

Prolly the desert areas

[ornate saffron]

Where ever the resources are

[keen vault]

the desert at the top?

[zenith pecan]

Tbh, anywhere within range of the materials you're taking up, the open deserts and even the grasslands offer a lot of open fairly flat terrain.

[keen vault]

should i move to the desert then?

[glad carbon]

I am bias, so i say the best would honestly be the swamp ahh looking area

[zenith pecan]

Without context, I can't really say yes or no, if you want to start in the dunes though, it is a strong starting area, you'll be expanding everywhere in time.

[keen vault]

im in grass fields rn and im in phase 3 if that helps

[zenith pecan]

Expand into the desert, it isn't worth knocking everything down and moving, you'd be better off starting a new save if you wanted to do that.

[lunar python]

It is

[keen vault]

i mean i did have a very inefficient factory and didnt do much with coal so might aswell

[lunar python]

Nuke the forest

If it works dont fix it

[zenith pecan]

In the end, it is your game, your rules, so the final decision lies with you, I can only offer my opinion.

[keen vault]

i might aswell make a move to the desert then

[zenith pecan]

Fair enough 👍

[lunar python]

Desert ugly 🤢

[glad carbon]

Yo anyone wanna rate the start of my mega factory design?

[zenith pecan]

Desert looks better when covered in glass & concrete.

[glad carbon]

Real

[lunar python]

I just have a hard time thinking of something that looks good in the desert

Maybe a parking lot

[glad carbon]

I made something good looking in the swamp

When theres a will theres a way

[zenith pecan]

I built this #screenshots message

[glad carbon]

Holy jesus christ

[zenith pecan]

Here's a brief look inside it #screenshots message

[glad carbon]

Dear heavens 🙏

[sterile blade]

BTW, did you ever use FicsitCam, @zenith pecan?

[glad carbon]

Im starting to think my factory aint gonna be big enough

[zenith pecan]

Nope.

[zenith pecan]

That building is just a bauxite refinery.

[glad carbon]

😭🙏

Tbf the image i sent is gonna be bauxite only aswell, so imma see what i cook with this space

[coral marsh]

@flat shale dude, that screenshot looks like something straight out of silent hill, thats awesome

[west plaza]

I think I'm a little hellbent on trying to use the impure nodes as much as possible for my simpler factories

[sterile blade]

If you like time-lapses, it's totally worth a shot for your next project, imo. Low-effort to set up, for a great pay-off!
I'd personally be curios to check out a video of your building process ^^ (even with just music, timelapses are just fascinating~)

[coral marsh]

Ik I could just load up the game, but anyone know of any good quartz nodes close to the dune desert? Its the like the 2nd last ore i need

[zenith pecan]

Here's where I generate power 😄

[sterile blade]

Up to the north, after the Coal nodes...

[zenith pecan]

How much Bauxite are you aiming to process?

[coral marsh]

Thanks

[glad carbon]

About 2/3 of the map

[zenith pecan]

True, my construction is proper slow 😄

[sterile blade]

Wait, I might be confusing the two deserts... Is the dune deter the one in the northeast part of the map?

[zenith pecan]

So you'd need the refinery to be 2/3rds the size of mine 🙂

[coral marsh]

dune not rocky

[glad carbon]

And imma automate the next phase and a couple of the good items

[coral marsh]

Otherside of red forest

[zenith pecan]

My reply on power didn't work, I forgot the link 🤣 , here's my power source: #satisfactory-experimental message

[sterile blade]

You just set up the camera, the time and let it record in the background. Then (so long as you chose a decent angle) you can just chuck the images to any video editor and make a video out of it (they're already in order ofc~)
It's just sooo simple and yet can yield so much nice footage
(no matter the speed of your building, you can just set the speed of recording accordingly or even speed things up in video-editing later)

[glad carbon]

Imma make the power building, except imma make it entirley power augmenters

1000 alien power augmenters

[zenith pecan]

The four towers in my clip yield 1.1Tw.

[plucky belfry]

im new to the game can someone help me rebuilt my current factory

[coral marsh]

Thats 10 thousand somersloops

[glad carbon]

Only?

[sick falcon]

how long does it take to finish the game on average

[coral marsh]

There aren't that many in the game without cheating them in or using mods

[sick falcon]

i’m like 260 hours in and feel like i’m on the slow end

[glad carbon]

Duping is cheating no?

[zenith pecan]

106 on the map if I recall, I ended up with 189 because a patch respawned all the ones I'd farmed.

[sick falcon]

are we getting any new large content updates now that the games fully released

[zenith pecan]

Given that development time isn't cheap, and the game is fully released, I don't think we'll see anything major now, though bugfixes are still likely over time.

[ornate saffron]

1.2 at somepoint first half of 2026 we shall see what it entails

[sterile blade]

@coral marsh Given your screenshot's location, I refer back to my "to the north" comment about Quartz ^^

[ornate saffron]

I would pay for the game again if it ment another handcrafted map

[coral marsh]

I found em, thanks lol

[zenith pecan]

Hell I'd love to buy a second map dlc.

[sick falcon]

i want to see more extreme locations

like arctic or underwater biomes

[zenith pecan]

Arctic would be cool, I've built underwater before though as shown here: #design-and-architecture message & here: #satisfactory-experimental message (edit neither screen is ocean lol)

I did build under the western sea, but just the support columns for my old TF plant, and those went deep.

[glad carbon]

Is that enough sommer sloops?

I think maybe

[zenith pecan]

Those numbers make any sense of decision making meaningless 🙁

[glad carbon]

That was just the first crate i have full

Dont ask, i just, sommer

Like i dont know what to do with all these sommersloops

[zenith pecan]

Getting rid of them will be slow, my approach with the loads of respawned mercer spheres, was to tame a doggo, drop the stack into its inventory, then drop a nuclear device.

[glad carbon]

Poor doggos 😭🙏

[zenith pecan]

You can't rubbish can them, and using the toilet is per item, not stack, so nuking doggos was the best way to get them out of my save.

[glad carbon]

I mean i got a use for the sommer sloops tbh

Lots and lots of slooped factories

[zenith pecan]

I have a use for one of each excess somersloop & mercer sphere, have them on display pedestals looking cool, I just don't want to have enough that any meaningful choice is made irrelevant.

[quasi warren]

I use like 40 sloops for augmentors. The rest i use for factory

[glad carbon]

Im using like 470 for power rn

Most is decorartional tho

[quasi warren]

Are there 106 sloops on the map tho?

[zenith pecan]

No, 106.

[quasi warren]

That doesnt make sense unless you are using mods

[zenith pecan]

I have 189 due to one patch respawning all the ones I'd farmed though.

[glad carbon]

Look at my screenshot bro,

[quasi warren]

Aight

[glad carbon]

I just used trucks and blueprints

[quasi warren]

...and it somehow duplicated it???

[glad carbon]

You put a tractor in a bp save it, delete the tractor and load the bp