satisfactory

[coarse rivet]

cause typical gasmasks are useless to me

[versed cosmos]

but like ill just leave my computer on overnight

[coarse rivet]

ive destroyed almost all of the gas rock things i encounter

[crude canyon]

I never did that.
It felt like cheating

[versed cosmos]

i havent done it yet

[crude canyon]

If you need more, just build more

[coarse rivet]

i did it early game when i wanted to build pretty things but couldnt

[crude canyon]

Honestly, I want to do a pool play through

[coarse rivet]

perfectionism hinders a person like me a lot so i knew if i built something without awesome shop architecture id burn out

[crude canyon]

I'm also perfectionist but in an efficiency and design way

Like "oh no, these manifolds are too far apart, now the belts will do weird zigzags

[coarse rivet]

how do you deal with water clogging in aluminum production

i have to flush the system every like 12 hours

[crude canyon]

Use the extra water in coal generators

[versed cosmos]

use the water for more alumina solution refineries

[crude canyon]

You're already using coal in aluminum so you're not losing much

[coarse rivet]

well my numbers are exact for production so i cant really make more

[versed cosmos]

see how much water youre bringing in with extractors and if you can replace some of that with byproduct water

send extra to coal generators or wet concrete or literally anything that either deletes it or makes it into something sinkable

my aluminium plant that i keep procrastinating uses electrode scrap so i've already got oil on-site so i'm gonna make rubber and diluted fuel with it

[coarse rivet]

#screenshots message my current (and temporary) setup

[white dawn]

Keep the "fresh" and "recycled" water on completely separate pipe systems, probably with machines underclocked/overclocked so that the numbers all line up exactly. Some examples w/ images: #design-and-architecture message

[crude canyon]

Yeah but that's no fun

[coarse rivet]

ah why didnt i think of that?!

both refineries make 240 water so im sending up 160 via extractors

[white dawn]

If you do want to merge your fresh+recycled liquids, the most reliable method by far is using a VIP Junction, as described in the pipeline manual: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

Though keep in mind that the person who wrote that doesn't recommend their use. :)

[versed cosmos]

much more reliable to just not mix your waters tho

[white dawn]

I don't see how that's any more or less fun than any other option; you're just making factories in either case.

A 100%-uptime factory is its own reward, regardless of how you built it

[versed cosmos]

literallly cannot go wrong

[white dawn]

To be clear: you absolutely can have a working system with fresh+recycled going into the same pipes; I used to do it all the time and many other folks still do. Nowadays I just find it far simpler to just keep 'em separate is all

So long as you've done the math right with a separated system, IME there's quite a bit less debugging to do, though

[pastel dawn]

I do it all the time just gotta run the math and prime it with little extra

Thats why I like manifold too, makes feel like the factories are coming to life

[scenic mirage]

I tried doing it but I just couldn't get it to work

[crude canyon]

Any uses for the factory cart?

[scenic mirage]

Tons

[crude canyon]

Screw transport?

[coarse rivet]

running an enemy over for the achievement lol

[scenic mirage]

You can transport anything w it

[coarse rivet]

i am curious how do yall go about making supercomputers

[crude canyon]

Normally I use oc

[coarse rivet]

i found a neat setup that only requires caterium and crude oil

wait i said that earlier already

dementiamaxxing

[crude canyon]

I noticed that caterium REALLY wants to be near copper and oil

[coarse rivet]

noticing

is it worth it to transport all caterium to one factory and produce only pure caterium ingots

[crude canyon]

I like to develop things as locally as possible...

[coarse rivet]

cause i mean it has very little application other than caterium wire

interesting

to an extent i agree but i also love the idea of one factory taking care of an entire step for every node of a specific resource

like droning in all uranium to a powerplant

[crude canyon]

Besides you can be like
"I'm gonna make it here because it has caterium and oil"
But the other location also had caterium and oil. So the only thing you did was make a bigger mess

I found that it's really hard to use even 80% of a location's resources

[coarse rivet]

well i was gonna build my supercomputer stuff at the southeast of the swamp

but the oil fracking site can only make 450 crude/min since its all impure

[crude canyon]

Ah the blue crater

[coarse rivet]

no

all the oil at the blue crater is yoinked

well actually thats a lie i forgot i have pipes leading nowhere...

and i DID need more oil at the supercomputer place

noticing.. thinking..

[crude canyon]

450 is still a lot of oil depending on your recipes

[coarse rivet]

hmm is it?

[crude canyon]

Like recycled plubber

[coarse rivet]

i might bite the bullet and not go with my funny recipe

[crude canyon]

Diluted fuel

[coarse rivet]

i can show you holdon

[crude canyon]

Fused wire and quick wire

The fused recipes are actually insane

[coarse rivet]

oh is there a way to copy recipe charts from Sat. calc.?

[gloomy tusk]

@toxic lichen how’s satisfactory going

[crude canyon]

There's a share button

The issue with the local stuff though is that it becomes easier to make big bases because you will only set up in places with a lot of resources already

[coarse rivet]

spaghetto is a modular individual i take it

i like big individual bases for specific processes so i dont have a mess of logistical spaghetti

[sudden flint]

why lock mark 4 belts behind oil if not using oil products?

[coarse rivet]

balancing?

[crude canyon]

I actually think there's 4 playstyles.
It's a table between centralisation/ decentralisation and independent/modular

[coarse rivet]

i think im decentralized independent

modular megabases

like a bunch of towns across the map lol

[crude canyon]

You can have many factories working together
Many factories working along

One factory with many working alone
One factory where everything interacts with each other

[sudden flint]

I'm told people generally "move out" of their starting bases after getting mark 4 belts. Should I throw together a crappy little encased beams setup till then?

[crude canyon]

What happens with more complex parts like RCUs

And turbo motors

[coarse rivet]

After thinking about it, I think the game realizes that Mk4 belts transfer so many items that if you were to produce that much then coal power would be insufficient for the factories producing those items, so in order to save your powergrid they want you to upgrade to oil and make a fuel plant THEN make your bigger factories

[coarse rivet]

i have no idea :)

[crude canyon]

Greeny is also a bit like you. He mentioned he'd get all the resources in one place...

But then I noticed that the resulting place would be excellent for one more factory... And then it stops being modular and starts being a lot more centralised

[sudden flint]

ohhhhh

thanks. that's a good insight

[coarse rivet]

I know I did! I made a crappy one, then attempted to make a full on steel foundry and abandoned the design (it's functional just not pretty), and ill make another one later

a big part of this game is tearing something down and making it better

[crude canyon]

Man I hate tearing stuff down.

I always try to make it right and expandable (it always ends up spaghetti, but I like to try regardless)

[coarse rivet]

me too but it must be done

[sudden flint]

I just remembered I have encased pipes, so I don't even have to dip into by beam production, just cuz I have 100 frickin pipes per minute

[coarse rivet]

i do like making things expandable as well

[feral jay]

So don't. Just build new stuff.

[coarse rivet]

pretty much

[crude canyon]

A lot of the belts are already in the right place though so it would be a waste not to expand

[coarse rivet]

unless the location is what you want, just shut its power grid off and move, swapping factory inputs

[crude canyon]

Like I already have a fused wire manifold, with some recycled plubber sushi and some cable alts perfectly in the right place

Do you realise the amount of things I can do at that moment

[pastel dawn]

Tearing stuff down and building it better is LIFE

[tranquil zinc]

how does overclocking resource well works? Cause I don't see overclock option on the well itself but only the pressurizer?

[fickle locust]

Bleh Adaptive Control Unit time

[coarse rivet]

This makes 240 pipes, 196 beams, and 14.667 encased beams per minute. Looks like shit cause i stopped work on it, but it does the job well #screenshots message

[fickle locust]

If you overclock the pressurizer it makes every extractor on the well go faster

[pastel dawn]

f you overclock the pressurizer all nodes will increase as well

[tranquil zinc]

by the same percentage? or divide equally to all in use?

[coarse rivet]

praise be photo mode

[pastel dawn]

All increase as if they had the same shards

[fickle locust]

Both? It's the same as with any other overclock

[tranquil zinc]

cause the well extractor does not show the increase when I have the pressurizer on full 250%

[pastel dawn]

Drop some power nuggets in there and check the numbers

[coarse rivet]

you just gotta think of a well extracor like a separated water extractor

the main gimmick is piping it all together

[fickle locust]

Each extractor will just show what it's currently doing, but that number changes depending on the overclock of the pressurizer

So if you take the shards out, that number on the extractor will go down

[tranquil zinc]

crude oil pure shows 300/min both with 100% pressurizer and fully overclock pressurizer

[coarse rivet]

is it on?

[pastel dawn]

Pressurizing oil?

[coarse rivet]

like hooked up to power

[fickle locust]

You need the pipes actually flowing out. Otherwise the number gets stuck on whatever it was the last time something flowed out

[coarse rivet]

yes there are a few oil spots that can use the pressurizer

[tranquil zinc]

ok, will see. Right now I just built the pressurizer and wells. Its connected to power but no pipes yet

[pastel dawn]

Huh I didn't even know that

[fickle locust]

You can put a buffer to test, but I had this same exact thing happen with nitrogen a couple days ago. The numbers wouldn't update until resources were flowing through the pipe

[pastel dawn]

The number wont change until you are pumping fluid d you have pipe in it?

[coarse rivet]

#screenshots message only three locations on the map

[pastel dawn]

New goal unlocked

[crude canyon]

Anyone else loves to sushi their belts?

[pastel dawn]

Also just in case youre not aware

[tranquil zinc]

ok. I think I now where I was wrong. I thought it was supposed to be 600 for pure overclock oil. But no, its supposed to be 300. I was using satisfactory modeler as a guide

[pastel dawn]

Each node has different purity

[sudden flint]

"looks like shit"

looks inside
Literally more aesthetically pleasing than anything I've ever built, ever

[tranquil zinc]

and I use oil and not oil well in modeler lol

[pastel dawn]

Ah

Whoops lol

[crude canyon]

You tryna do a medieval castle there?

[frosty mirage]

Good news is I learned to build factories efficiently, bad news is im running out of power and will need to start expanding on oil infrastructure and petroleun power 😭 im getting derailed from my objectives, i was planning on doing 1 more bigger factory before moving on

[fickle locust]

The eternal balance

[frosty mirage]

I also unlocked the damn trains

[fickle locust]

I just had to go back and rebuild my power infrastructure as well

[frosty mirage]

I mean I could just expand my coal power plant but the game kinda forces my hand

Got stuck in MAM as well

Because oil

[fickle locust]

Yeah you can't really make it work just with coal. You need more

[frosty mirage]

The whole oil plus packaging shit plus petroleum power plus trains is a lot to take in

[fickle locust]

Oh my god I'm overproducing for Biochemical Sculptors by a factor of 4

I'm going to make so many of these things

[charred spire]

just got my first hoverpack

damn its amazing

[feral jay]

THe hoverpack is cheating 😛

[thorn cave]

can somone tell me how the geothermal gen works

[wary falcon]

how do i calculate the amount of sutff my train can transport per min?

[quasi warren]

im scared of what ill unlock once i finish phase 4

[sudden flint]

crappy encased industrial pipes line established

[feral jay]

They have a maximum and ninimum output and cycle between the two in a sinewave pattern

[thorn cave]

but why

[feral jay]

Because that's how the game was deisgned. Literally no other reason.

[thorn cave]

alr ig

[sudden flint]

geyser nodes provide power based on purity. they vary up and down, like a sin wave. the best strategy is to make 3 or so generators all clocked to the same energy output and set them to be off-phase with one another so they cover each other's low parts

[feral jay]

Ohh, a sin wave. Sinwaves are cool, but I gotta figure out how to do a sin wave.

("sin" meaning offense against God, in case that doesn't translate well and English ins't your first language)

[whole ermine]

the error message for not being able to place a resource well pressurizer sounds like a kid trying to not swear

must be placed on a fracking core node!

[sudden flint]

Sine wave, then? the abbreviation is sin(), so i just assumed

[versed cosmos]

geothermal generators can't have their clock speed changed

just put some batteries on a grid that depends on geothermal

[feral jay]

I think both are correct, I'm not a mathemetician though

[versed cosmos]

both are correct. also not a mathemetician but im saying it more confidently so yall know im right

[fickle locust]

I have somehow gotten myself in a position where I need 161 AI Limiters and am definitely not producing that many

[sudden flint]

This is a GROUNDBREAKING discovery! :D

[charred spire]

if you really dont want to build them you could always buy some

[fickle locust]

Oh to be clear this is a per-minute need for my factory

[charred spire]

oh lmao

[versed cosmos]

what do you need 161 ai limiters/min for

[charred spire]

does anyone know why in photo mode my aperture slider does nothing?

[fickle locust]

Man I thought I was done with these

[dense violet]

Check out the wiki

[fickle locust]

Crystal Oscillators feeding RCUs and then a ton for Electromagnetic Control Rods

[sudden flint]

nope sorry...

[fickle locust]

I think I'm just committed enough to feeding those factories that I'm not going to look into whether I truly need to be doing it or not

[versed cosmos]

maybe you could look into plastic ai limiter?

[fickle locust]

Oh I'm using them
Actually how am I not making enough, this set of 8 assemblers with plastic is 128 limiters

[versed cosmos]

10 assemblers

or 12

[fickle locust]

8 Assemblers OC'd
Maybe not enough plastic coming in? Chasing further up the line...

[versed cosmos]

could be quickwire

plastic ai limiter takes even more than the standard recipe

ooh actually its less per unit because plastic ai limiter makes 2 per operation

[fickle locust]

No the quickwire is fine. I'm going to change my plastic trains to do a full load/unload

[coral marsh]

If you have any polymer resin you can cover the loss with an alt plastic recipe

[tired cypress]

Booooooo

[sudden flint]

🥺
😭

[fickle locust]

It's not a loss of total plastic amounts, this factory is making more than 1,200 per minute, just an issue of it not getting delivered right

[sudden flint]

why are mark 3 belts 7.76 items too slow per minute for iron motors 😭

[coral marsh]

Ah okay

[coral marsh]

Somewhat annoys me theyre 270 instead of 300

[fickle locust]

Ah yup this train is going around half the map for no good reason, that's the issue

[coral marsh]

Lmao, may wanna fix that

[fickle locust]

New bridge built, this'll be so much faster

[pastel dawn]

Pretty sure they just choose arbitrary numbers so we have to do lots of ridiculous math. Like it makes 1.875 items per minute? Really?

[coral marsh]

Modular frames?

[feral jay]

No, some ratios work out very well. Aluminium is a great example, as is the 8/3 coal/water setup.

[frosty nimbus]

hey guys I need to get about 1.2k p/m of nitrogen gas across the map

[feral jay]

Package it and send it by rail

[frosty nimbus]

how many fluid tank cars would I need to maintain a constant flow rate as this is for a large powerplant I am building

[feral jay]

You can stuff 4 times the nitrogen into a solid goods rail car than you can into a tanker

[fickle locust]

It would depend how many trains you ran, at a complete guess 3 trains with at least 2 cars each
But as Striek said you get a 4:1 ratio when you package, so it's way easier

[feral jay]

Dealing with the canisters is an interesting problem to solve, but it's not that difficult

[frosty nimbus]

ill have to figure out where the closest oil node is then

the other option is direct routing from a nitro well high up on the map

no headlift to worry about

[feral jay]

true, but pipes that long are... troublesome

It's not that there's any innate difficulty to it, it's more that map-spanning pipelines just aren't tested very well, so you run into edge cases. And they're not used by a lot of players, so you won't find a lot of help when you do run into issues.

[frosty nimbus]

fair

[feral jay]

It's absolutely doable, but you're on your own

Plus, if you set up the railroads, they become useful for other things later

[frosty nimbus]

ball park on the amount of cars Ill need to maintain constant flow with packaged nitro?

[feral jay]

two or three?

Like a sinle train with tweo or three cars full of packaged nitrogen

But I've never done what you're considering

[frosty nimbus]

Wait Im being stupid

[feral jay]

All my train stations have five platforms, I've never needed all five

[frosty nimbus]

I could just ship water and iron plates over here for nitric acid

much easier

[feral jay]

Oh hah, that too. Don't move the liquid – move the solids. And after that, move the gases before you move the liquids.

[fickle locust]

So this one I did just do, I'm moving 1.2k with a single train car when packaged

And I'm running that from the nitro node near the gold coast (center-West) to the Blue Crater, on a loop running through the Grand Canyon and down through the Titan Forest

[feral jay]

How long is that line?

[frosty nimbus]

Im making a gigantic rocket fuel powerplant to power the jump into nuclear power

[feral jay]

oh, damn

[frosty nimbus]

Heres the numbers im working with

1260 nitrogen gas

yeah Im just gonna bring all the stuff over here and build a local station

[feral jay]

What are you building, and where?

Let me tell you about how you're doing it all wrong 😛

(Or read your plan and find out why I'm doing it wrong) 😛

[unborn nova]

could someone help me in #1038092680493801533

[frosty nimbus]

Im building a rocket fuel powerplant in the lakeforest that should generate about 189k mw when complete

Total generators is about 750

[feral jay]

THere's nitrogen there?

[frosty nimbus]

There is none which is why I asked about fluid tankers lol

closest one is farther down south

below elevation

[fickle locust]

That's where I made my plastic and rubber. It's a pretty spot. You can definitely train the nitrogen in there

[feral jay]

There's some a bit south in the titan forest, I think a gas pipeline would work to get it to lake forest. I wouldn't build a liquid pipeline that long, but a gas pipe could work

[fickle locust]

That one sulfur node isn't a ton, I feel like you'll need to train that in as well

[frosty nimbus]

Lol while I was talking I got jumped by a nuke spider

Tell ya what

Imma take a break for tonight. Come back tomorrow and tackle it on a fresh mind

thanks for the help yall :>

[pastel dawn]

It was a joke. I know calculus lol I live for the math. It's not complex enough in quantum tech imo

[frosty nimbus]

I literally spent an hour running belts from all the impure sulfur nodes with max overclock on mk3 to barely hit the required sulfure of 1197 p/m for the build

[feral jay]

Ah, I get you now

[fickle locust]

Lol that is also a way you can do it

[frosty nimbus]

I should post some screenshots of the build

but I am passed my bed time

I need to sleep for school tmrw

[pastel dawn]

Yeaaaa I am hilarious.

[feral jay]

Sharing screenshots is cheating. REAL players do it blind.

[frosty nimbus]

imagine an actual blind playthrough

how the hell would that work

[pastel dawn]

"This refinery is going chung chung chung when it should be going burrrrrrrrrrrrr"

[cyan leaf]

Alr out if the components for phase stuff which one should I focus on?

4 for phase 4

[primal flax]

is there a preference for trains to drive on left or right lane?

[feral jay]

Yes. Driving on the left is heresy.

It makes no difference game-mechanics wise, but it's heresy nonetheless

Only island nations drive on the left

[primal flax]

my pioneer is from a island nation

[feral jay]

hey that would be an interesting challenge... change my entire rail network from right hand to left hand drive

[primal flax]

lol

[feral jay]

HERETIC!

[stuck dagger]

The game map is an island, so are we obligated to build left hand drive?

[feral jay]

The map is not an island, it's a peninsula

Looks a lot like Spain

(and Portugal)

[stuck dagger]

Iberia

[feral jay]

yes that, the name was on the tip of my tongue

LEFT HAND TRAINS ARE HERESY. Change my mind.

[coarse rivet]

nope 💀

[forest nova]

um i broke one power pole and the entire power grid for all of my plants went offline

serious design flaw in my grid lmao

[void cliff]

Learned the hard way that you can’t do a push-push train system with 3+ stops, lol. “Why does the cargo keep getting mixed up!?”

[feral jay]

I do my trains pull only, always two way tracks, and I keep main lines seperate from stations

Always five cars, and the odd one or two needs a second engine

[ocean frost]

You can it just can't be an odd number of stops

You either add an stop to adjust it to turn one of the stops into a stop the train doesn't reverse out of

[thorn cave]

is it bad to have my megafactory not aligned with the world grid

[wispy osprey]

It's just easier to align to the grid from the start

[thorn cave]

i didint. and i just realized that now.

[wispy osprey]

Anything aligned to the world grid can always reach it easily

If it's not on that grid it'll need some shenanigans to reach

[thorn cave]

i think ima have to rebuild it all

erm

[wispy osprey]

If it's easy to remake sure

[thorn cave]

i mean it dont look that good anyway it only make every essential resource im currently using

im on phase 2 its not that big

but like medium sized

[wispy osprey]

I made the mistake of mass gathering materials to one location without a real layout on where all of the ingots and materials would go

If i play satisfactory again, I'm going modular

[thorn cave]

sounds like what im doing rn

no issue so far for me

[fickle locust]

Megafactory and stage 2 don't really go together

Your factory right now is not very mega, thus very easy to redo

So if you'll want it on the world grid absolutely do it now rather than later

[thorn cave]

i say "megafactory" because ima just transport all the raw resources to it and its the biggest factory i have

[thorn cave]

sounds painful to delete it all and realign it tho is it really worth it?

[wispy osprey]

I think in a full restart of the game I'll just use more than one node to do stuff

[fickle locust]

It's not really worth doing, but it's also not worth being attached to your phase 2 factory, so it's which thing sounds worse to you

[wispy osprey]

I don't need to min-max. I just need to make 10/min at least

I can earn all my rewards and min-max later

[fickle locust]

In Phase 4 you're going to have 10x the production and thus something like 10x the buildings. If you want to do it, do it now, but you probably don't need to do it at all

[wispy osprey]

Phase 4 seems like a good place to start mass producing

[void cliff]

World grid sucks, imo, because it almost never aligns with terrain aesthetically.

[wispy osprey]

RF, blending, aluminum, 720 belts

[thorn cave]

it dont look good but im more concerned abt rebuilding it cuz what i have rn took forever to build i could show a screenshot

[fickle locust]

I recently went back to see the best factory I made for heavy modular frames during phase 3, and it was so much worse than I could do during phase 5 that I decided to just keep it and go remake the thing elsewhere

[cyan leaf]

Ughh I wanna go back to the factory but im so bummed on what to do

[thorn cave]

well im in a place where the terrain kinda sucks anyway its all wavy and bland

[fickle locust]

Honestly I'd recommend keeping what you have, and when you're at a higher phase go and make a different (better) one somewhere else

[wispy osprey]

The main issue is power use, when you abandon and build better somewhere else, the old factory stays on

[thorn cave]

that sounds like a better option than deleting it and struggling to remake it, i havent explored much anyway

[wispy osprey]

At least until you turn it off completely

[fickle locust]

You can turn it off, or if it's not running to anywhere then the power use doesn't matter

[wispy osprey]

If stores are all filled machines will be left on yellow anyway

[fickle locust]

There's a very normal desire to upgrade what you have, but it's typically much easier to just go make a new and better thing elsewhere

[wispy osprey]

Thus not eating the power grid

[thorn cave]

HALLELUJAH I JUST GOT HEAVY OIL RESIDUE

[wispy osprey]

I already haven't played in 2 weeks, SF kinda burned me out from gaming as a whole for some time

[thorn cave]

im gonna make so much power now

[void cliff]

I struggle to keep playing on a game after phase 5. I just keep making a new game

[thorn cave]

i also got diluted packaged fuel too

[zealous urchin]

just finished my heavy frames 45/m 🫸🫷

[fickle locust]

Feel the power

[thorn cave]

45 a MINUTE?

[fickle locust]

HMF are so annoying

[thorn cave]

thats somthing i dream about

[hushed totem]

Good Christ man

[fickle locust]

Remember how I said in higher phases you can do way more?

[void cliff]

Just blueprint it and copy and paste

[zealous urchin]

and its not even the final form!!

😆

[thorn cave]

yea

[fickle locust]

I did a 40 somewhat recently #screenshots message

[feral jay]

jfc I just finished up a 20/minute heavy frames build, it took me a week IRL

[fickle locust]

Which I've now realized was totally unnecessary because I made a calculation mistake on how many needed to go into Assembly Directors. So I guess I'll make more of those than I actually need

[zealous urchin]

#screenshots message

u can judge me on floating

feels so good to just finish smth ngl

[feral jay]

holy crap I just got the "server will restart in 2 minutes" warning...

[zealous urchin]

me too

[feral jay]

ah, 2 minutes before midnight

(EST)

Never got it before

[fluid crow]

server?

[feral jay]

Every game is a "server"

[fickle locust]

Ooh I just got Station 41, I have run out of names

[fickle locust]

This is blade runner coded

[cyan leaf]

Hmmm how hard is it to make a simple nuclear reactor?

[feral jay]

"simple" and "nuclear" are mutually exclusive

[zealous urchin]

wdym? 😅

[cyan leaf]

The uranium fueled varient as i just started doing tier 8

[feral jay]

It looks simple until you realize the sheer volume of waste

[fickle locust]

The movie blade runner is a kind of dystopian future where it's very smoggy, everything is grey, giant towers everywhere. That's what I'm seeing in your big towers of identical machines

[feral jay]

Uranium waste is like screws, there's just so much of it

And, you can't sink it

[cyan leaf]

So its better off waiting till plutonium stuff is unlocked?

[feral jay]

eh, it's not THAT hard to build a storage facility to store it all until then

But in general, no, I don't fuck around with nuclear power until I can sink plutonium rods

[cyan leaf]

I dont really need it atm I just wanna try it honestly so basically get both nuclear research done before doing nuclear?

[zealous urchin]

ah i understand now

[feral jay]

Well, nuclear is fun to play with, a half dozen plants aren't going to be that much to deal with in terms of waste

But you will absolutely need a plan to store the waste in the medium term

I store it underground now

[cyan leaf]

What u mean by underground?

[feral jay]

Glitch the game and build stuff underground

[cyan leaf]

Ohh also is wet concrete worth?

[feral jay]

You can't use wet concrete everywhere, and limestone is generally a very abundant resource, but when wet concrete works... it works

[pallid ridge]

It says it's a node, pure oil. But there's some kind of rock above it

[feral jay]

mine the rock above it with E (or whatever the console equivalent is)

[forest nova]

just a quick question if someone doesnt mind. Is there any kind of "round robin" like minecraft mods have? like we can equally distribute stored items to machines rather than it being how it is now? If its something i unlock after phase 4 that's fine I just need to know

[pallid ridge]

So it's a rock above oil deposit?

#screenshots message

[feral jay]

No, that doesn't make sense, I've never seen a rock above an oil node

[feral jay]

I don't see what's above it?

[pallid ridge]

Wait, let me boot up the game.

[versed cosmos]

in the screenshot that's a resource well

you get the tech to tap them later

[feral jay]

yeah, but I don't understand the problem you're dealing with

[deep otter]

You can equally distribute items using a load balancer, or just use a manifold

[versed cosmos]

it sounds like he's trying to get oil out of the resource well but he hasn't unlocked the resource well pressuriser yet

[pallid ridge]

#screenshots message

this one

[feral jay]

Oh, yes, you can't hand mine an oil node.

[versed cosmos]

yeah you can't get resources out of that yet

[versed cosmos]

can't hand mine oil at all

it would slip through your fingers!

[pallid ridge]

i have the oil extractor

[forest nova]

yeah that's what I did for some of my bigger builds but im trying to be compact and setting up a huge screw production area takes up a lot of room if i do it that way. I haven't unlocked anything called a load balancer but that sounds like what i need. I'll look into it. thanks!

[formal jackal]

Hey, I stopped playing Satisfactory around update 1.0 and I know about 1.1, are there any other major changes, quality-of-life updates, or mechanics added since then on PC?

[zealous urchin]

not realy but it will eventualy sort itself out

[pallid ridge]

but i can't put the extractor in this kind of node

[versed cosmos]

can dismantle crash sites now

[pastel dawn]

Doesnt work for those

[formal jackal]

Yeah I know about that too

[pallid ridge]

so, it needs different extractor?

[pastel dawn]

Build more

[versed cosmos]

yup

resource well pressuriser unlocked in tier 8

[deep otter]

Google it, it uses splitters but takes a lot more space than a manifold

[forest nova]

oh so its another type of build. got it. thanks

[pallid ridge]

ah ok, thought i miss on something

[versed cosmos]

you're on the west coast right?

the 4 oil nodes around there can give you up to 1800 crude oil

that's a ton of oil

with the right alt recipes you can get 800 plastic and rubber out of 600 crude oil

or 1600 fuel

[pallid ridge]

yeah i'm there, thinking how much i should make stuff

[versed cosmos]

recently did that on one of the pure nodes there

20,000 MW on just normal fuel

you'll get like 10x that on rocket fuel

[fickle locust]

Huzzah the Adaptive Control Units are done

[versed cosmos]

I would suggest to just take a normal node and make equal parts plastic and rubber. turn the heavy oil residue into petroleum coke and send it to a sink. that'll give you the initial plastic and rubber to make your way through the milestones

[sick falcon]

why does ionized fuel cost 100 power shards 😭

[feral jay]

evil conspiracy

[glad hawk]

guys why are logistics so stupid

[feral jay]

Becasuse I'm stupid, and the game was made for me

[pallid ridge]

alr thanks

[versed cosmos]

once you get fuel power, turn all that HOR into fuel and burn it

[glad hawk]

guys i have a question so

do the watts measured in this game represent an (electric force * distance)/s

[versed cosmos]

not quite sure what the question is but distance doesnt play a factory in power

you can move power an infinite distance

[glad hawk]

yeah but it is important in measuring power

im gonna search it up

i am thinking of mechanics

[pallid ridge]

HOR?

[versed cosmos]

heavy oil residue

[pallid ridge]

Ah ok

[fickle locust]

Tomorrow I can finish Biochemical Sculptors

Which will be 2/4 final parts completely done, with Nuclear Pasta mostly done and the hardest part of Ballistic Warp Drives out of the way as well

[near stratus]

I had a fucking dream about satisfactory last night 😭

[gloomy tusk]

good you can improve efficency even more

[near stratus]

Im so fucked, I’ve spent 200 hours on it and I’ve only been playing it for like a few weeks

[glad hawk]

are you having fun

[near stratus]

You wanna know what’s funny

[gloomy tusk]

i just got it for christmas and have 400+ hours now

yes dyno

you got that

[near stratus]

Im pretty sure it was just about me running around doing something with quartz

[near stratus]

Yes

[gloomy tusk]

what tier?

[near stratus]

A bit to much maybe 😭

[near stratus]

8

[gloomy tusk]

im working on uranium fuel and its so stinky

[near stratus]

Oh. Oh wow

[near stratus]

Yea, I’m kinda shit scared of trying to figure out nuclear

[gloomy tusk]

[glad hawk]

then is it really that bad

[near stratus]

Well I’m procrastinating rn cuz I wanna set up supercompoopers first

[gloomy tusk]

dont worry about it its not that hard i just finished assembly director systems and they suk

[near stratus]

They keep me up at night

[sick falcon]

does noodle pipe build mode have more of a tolerance for bs curves than the other modes?

i feel like i can get away with more stuff with it

[near stratus]

I really don’t wanna automate ACUs 😭

[gloomy tusk]

yes like noodle hypertubes

[gloomy tusk]

nuclear pasta 🥹

[near stratus]

I mean I started in the desert, so it should be thaaaaaaaasaat bad right

Can’t be worse than RCUs

[gloomy tusk]

it doesn't matter where you start if you just unlock hypertubes and use a neat little circle set up the map is easily traversable

and i know the strat for making really long wires

[near stratus]

Huh

Never thought about that before

[gloomy tusk]

HOW MUCH OF YOUR FACTORY IS IN THE DESERT

[near stratus]

All of it 😅

WELL ACTUALLY

I do have my powerplant in like the…

[gloomy tusk]

[near stratus]

Idk what it’s called

[gloomy tusk]

do you at least get resources from other biomes

[jagged nymph]

wtf coffee stain owns bloxburg???

[gloomy tusk]

thats what most people do

[cyan leaf]

Yooo is rigor motors or silicon high speed connectors good?

[gloomy tusk]

whats that?

[near stratus]

WAIT I FORGOT

[cyan leaf]

One of the biggest robot games

[near stratus]

I have my aluminum in the swamp

[jagged nymph]

a shitty roblox game, apparently they bopught it

[gloomy tusk]

why swamp

i thought red forest was better

[near stratus]

Because it was closer lol

[feral jay]

Reminder folks: Everything is achievable, if you divide it into small jobs.

[near stratus]

🔥

[glad hawk]

guys is it ok if my pc is making blue flashing light at me

[cyan leaf]

@feral jay is rigor motors or silicon high speed connectors good?

[gloomy tusk]

not getting a girlfriend

😔

[feral jay]

Both are crap IMO. I'd reroll.

[near stratus]

Like a blue light near your power button?

[glad hawk]

no more like radiation

[cyan leaf]

I just got bs 😭

[gloomy tusk]

i had a vr headset and just before its battery blew up it started flashing the s.o.s signal in morse code

[near stratus]

Uhhhhhhhh

I don’t actually know

[gloomy tusk]

get your geiger counter out

[near stratus]

Welcome to the world of harddrives

[feral jay]

LOL my mouse does that, it has a blinky light that flashes an SOS when the batery is very low

[gloomy tusk]

my headset knew it was dead

it blew a hole in my desk

big enough for a pencil to fit through

[thorn cave]

is it bad that ive been playing for 6+ hours

i have school tmw and its like 11 pm

[versed cosmos]

its ok u can play for 6 more hours

[cyan leaf]

Nah factory matter more

[versed cosmos]

The factory must grow,

[thorn cave]

yea yall right for the kittens and puppies

[versed cosmos]

do it for the kittens and puppies

also, Consume.

[thorn cave]

lol ive been collecting those mercerspheres and harddrives for the past 40min to an hour and i think ada and the weird alien are flirting now.

i serously have no idea what they yappin bout

like what is a tapesty

[versed cosmos]

It is a collection of Strings.

[reef basin]

All recipes are good, pick one you like

[feral jay]

You know nothing, fine sir

[cyan leaf]

If hard drives aren't limited then sure but they are limited 😭

[reef basin]

You can get all recipes

[feral jay]

Yes there are fewer recipes than there are hard drives

[reef basin]

They practically aren't limited

And technically hard drives are infinite anyway

[versed cosmos]

also you'll probably use less than half of all the recipes available

[reef basin]

Eh, why?

[feral jay]

I think, maybe, I use ten alt recipes regularly?

[surreal rose]

There's so much of them you can get everything and you wont choose trash on hard drives

[reef basin]

There's no trash recipes, only recipes you personally don't like or haven't found use for yet

[reef basin]

That's a bold claim given I spent thousands of hours analysing recipes abd making a tool that optimises production 🙂

[pastel dawn]

🤣

[frank trout]

Man I wish someone would gift me the game 🙈

[reef basin]

?

[frank trout]

I am in debt rn 😭

[versed cosmos]

go more in debt for satisfactory

[reef basin]

Just fyi, #rules forbid begging

[surreal rose]

how does dimensional depot works?

[frank trout]

It is not begging

[frank trout]

Sadly can’t

[surreal rose]

and how many of them i can place

[reef basin]

Well, it's asking for a free copy

[reef basin]

However many you can

[pastel dawn]

This is a game about chill and you out here not chilll lolol mf has a charcoal factory I bet

[feral jay]

Well sure, but I could do it better in thirty minutes 😛

[frank trout]

That is not against the rules

[feral jay]

I'll just vibe code a replacement for Tools

[reef basin]

It uploads things to cloud storage. Those things can then be used for building or manually downloaded to inventory

[pastel dawn]

If you ever say anything like this in seriousness. Get off here and run.

[reef basin]

That's what "begging" is

[surreal rose]

wdym by cloud storage?

[frank trout]

Begging is if I repeatedly ask someone over and over to gift me th game

I just joined the server dawg

[feral jay]

Absolutely "begging"

[frank trout]

Coming in chat saying 1 thing and 3 people jump my ass for it

[reef basin]

I'm very much serious. Every recipe has some usage. Whether you like it/find it useful for your factories is up to you, but doesn't make the recipe good/bad

[reef basin]

Storage accessible from anywhere

[surreal rose]

thats good

[reef basin]

Other people were banned for it, so I was just warning you

[surreal rose]

also may i ask how many slots in there?

[reef basin]

Vibe coding is so crap

[reef basin]

Depends on research

Max possible is 5 stacks per item

[feral jay]

Just vibe coded a weather app that connects to an IRC bot... if you've got the money, vbe coding is pretty good

[surreal rose]

I mean how many slots in there total or it's possible to get only 1 resource in 1 depot?

[feral jay]

cranks up Amy Winehouse

[versed cosmos]

the things you place are just uploaders, not the storage itself

[feral jay]

DD's a bunch of stuff

[versed cosmos]

each item gets its own storage starting at 1 stack and ending at 5 stacks with the max upgrades

[feral jay]

The DD changes everything

[versed cosmos]

so at level one you can still throw a stack of plates in there, as well as rods, concrete, wire, cable, reinforced plates, rotors, and anything else you want

its almost op

[surreal rose]

Thats good

[feral jay]

But DDs are cheating

[surreal rose]

do i can connect my factory to depot?

[feral jay]

REAL players use trains full of construction mats

[versed cosmos]

yeah you can throw a dd at the end of a production line and itll constantly upload items as you use them

[surreal rose]

Another question, how do i make overflow with loop so it wont get stuck with 1 resource in it?(Since i can't place splitter right into dd and there's always 1 resource in the dark of input)

[versed cosmos]

you cant

[reef basin]

I live in that field. I know the quality of those apps. I've been fixing many of them.

[versed cosmos]

you need one dd uploader per item

[surreal rose]

👎

[feral jay]

So true, just "vibe code" something to try it out, and then spend a week fixing it, for a damned hobby project

[reef basin]

You can't get a good quality result from vibe coding for any bigger project. Not yet, not in next 5-10 years. Probably won't get it ever.

[winter rapids]

What’s the transfer rate on conveyor belts in each mk?

[feral jay]

I disagree, but that's #off-topic-general. Ten years, naybe.

[pastel dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-mcmillan-too-damn-high-high-gif-10410151

[feral jay]

But then again, I'm just a network dude

I build the plumbing

[pastel dawn]

This is such a silly thing to say. Tech is growing fast. As an engineer with going on 30 years. If you know how to build the apps to begin with, can veryify output, and build in componentized, modular way not just "give me this app" it works fine

People do it every day bro

[feral jay]

Who's chillin' out to Amy Winehouse

[pastel dawn]

But AI isnt AGI and they inflating its abilities a lot of people think the tech can do more than it it really can

[feral jay]

You're right about buiding things

The world needs engineers for that

[pastel dawn]

WOOOOT

Lots of black box tech coming out yea we need engineers for sure

Hes not wrong in that there is a lot of bad apps coming out cause of vive coders

[feral jay]

I deal with asshats like @reef basin giving me too many error logs and expecting me to store them

[pastel dawn]

All that experience and I made fn cart production line today in Sat

They dont clear the gap always its pretty funny

[surreal rose]

60 120 270 480 780 1200

[feral jay]

Man, in this world of shit, Ms. Winehouse strikes a chord ( #off-topic-general )

Just, sings about sad stuff, but makes you feel hopeful

[reef basin]

that's no longer vibe coding tho

that's pair coding with an agent

[pastel dawn]

Just because there are genres of vibe coding doesnt make it not vibe coding

This guy is a crackup man

Satisfactory Oracle

Also, hyou don't have to pair an agent to a repo to vibe code components

So you just really have no idea what youre saying lol

There are many ways to do it

[reef basin]

ah good old "you have no idea"

[pastel dawn]

I'm just letting you know man

It's ireesponsible to spread misinformation

[reef basin]

I guess I have to change jobs now since I have no idea how to do things

[pastel dawn]

Just saying you don't sound like someone who uses these tools

The whole employment landscape ios changing

[reef basin]

so I have to use something to know about it?

[pastel dawn]

Get with times they wont be regulating it for at leasy next decade

[sterile blade]

I just use the list in SFTools' codex ^^
It's ordered and I can just skip any that doesn't interest me

[pastel dawn]

👀

Have a good day my man

Sometimes its good to shut your mouth and open your ears, though. Lesson of the day.

[sterile blade]

I don't find this conversation #satisfactory at all

[clear mesa]

😞

[nova ridge]

crazy that 1200u/min isnt fast enough

[clear mesa]

Fast enough for what

[nova ridge]

to carry ever;ything i need

[reef basin]

if only you could use multiple belts or vehicles

[clear mesa]

Two conveyors

[nova ridge]

my 600 copper ore -> 3000 wire -> 1500 cable

[clear mesa]

3 actually

[nova ridge]

i did.

[reef basin]

make cable and wire directly in front of the thing that needs it

[nova ridge]

its a fairly massive build

i did conetmplate the 1-2-1 as well but i just did in series instead

needed 1000 cable to make 50 automated wiring.

which can make 10 computer i adpative unit i guess

[zenith pecan]

Same approach for screws ultimately, I did that with my crystal oscillator facility in the north, classic screws built in-line for the plates as its numbers worked best for me 🙂

[reef basin]

yeah, screws, wire and quickwire all benefit of direct insertion

and people who skip screws never learn this

[zenith pecan]

I just go with what makes sense at the time, if screws is it, then their machines are assembled one row over and the raw rods etc are moved.

[nova ridge]

next up is to make 600 oil into rocket with alternative recipes

just sinking everything atm

[cyan leaf]

I absolutely hate making stuff sometimes

[zenith pecan]

600 oil into rocket will produce a decent sized chunk of electric, throw in a power augmenter or two to push it further and you'll likely run the whole show without further generating capacity needed.

[clear mesa]

Thank god this isn't a game about making stuff

You'd go insane

[nova ridge]

games already cleared just tyring to unlock everything

surprising how little i need to explore and do to clear it

[zenith pecan]

Fair enough, I'm in a similar position though I went insane on rocket fuel before completion, I just want to build when I get back to it.

I'm still planning on full uranium consumption (with one slooped encased uranium cell producer to provide for replacing my nuclear weapons program.

[nova ridge]

i though ti had plenty unti li summerslopped/powersharded for power shards

70gw was barely enough

[zenith pecan]

I have 1.1Tw from my rocket fuel setup and power augs, I have no clue what'll happen power wise with Nuclear goes online on top 🤣

[nova ridge]

nuclear was more annoying than i thought needed a lot more space than i planned so it got weird

still havent used my final product of it yet. its just piling up slowly

[zenith pecan]

Here's a brief look at my power station #satisfactory-experimental message

[nova ridge]

why experiemental? whats different

[zenith pecan]

Like last time, when I start up nuclear, I won't press the start button until I have everything in place.

[zenith pecan]

Fair old clip now, I didn't see the need to waste discord space with a new vid showing the same.

[nova ridge]

nuclear piles up so slowly its not a problem

i think biggest problem with nuclear is just how much other stuff you need

[zenith pecan]

My old nuclear in my previous save was radiation free, no waste and didn't power up until the entire chain was assembled.

[nova ridge]

ah yours is very pretty

are they blueprinted

#screenshots message

mine is very boring

[zenith pecan]

No, I only keep blueprints for things that are beyond one project.

[nova ridge]

so you put down each buildling by hand?

[zenith pecan]

Here's my old nuclear, the reactor hall is completely without radiation #satisfactory-experimental message, yes everything was hand placed.

[tranquil saffron]

how do u not have radioactivity? is it because ur waste goes up or something?

[zenith pecan]

Perfect load balancing on the fuel rods, never ever more than 200 on the entire map at once, one burning and one in or being sent to each reactor.

[clear mesa]

Ah so no manifolds I see

[tranquil saffron]

holy crap ya forget that 😂

[zenith pecan]

This shows the really early development of the towers #screenshots message , but yeah everything placed by hand.

[zenith pecan]

I don't manifold radioactives, but everything else, hell yeah, manifold the hell out of it.

Not completely true, I manifolded the uranium cells, because while they are radioactive, it is so low you can stand on a full belt and not get a dose.

[clear mesa]

No that makes sense, never thought about it since usually it'd be over the ocean away from everything else anyways

[tranquil saffron]

after seeing that work, i'm okay with my radioactivity 😂 i wish there was a mod to turn it off but i don't think there is

[zenith pecan]

Controlling radiation was part of the challenge, that whole setup was fully walkable.

[tranquil saffron]

BEEP BEEP BEEP Deafening Beeping Ensues

[clear mesa]

That's actually cool...fair play

[tranquil saffron]

a bit loud there guys, just a bit 😬 🪦

[nova ridge]

does radioactivity eventaully spready the whol e map?

[reef basin]

if you make enough radioactiver items, it may

[tranquil saffron]

no, but if you spread your waste around it can, waste irradiates a huge area when it stacks up, i move mine out to the ocean 😂

i have a long conveyor belt going out to the ocean 😂 😭

we are making biofuel from leaves but we can't dispose of nuclear waste, what is this jokery

[zenith pecan]

I'm off to work!, have a good one 👍

[surreal rose]

why does my residual fuel doesn't work on 100% efficiency even when everything calculated and i'm using valves?

[fluid crow]

pipes

[reef basin]

because you're using valves 😄

[tranquil saffron]

if you haven't audibly screamed at least once while trying to figure out a tricky pipeline, then you haven't play enough

[reef basin]

valves are pointless and should be avoided

[tranquil saffron]

but they look so cool

[surreal rose]

oh

[reef basin]

clip a pipe through them

[tranquil saffron]

when in doubt, flush the entire pipeline and tanks

that should fix it

[reef basin]

eh, pipes work best when full

[surreal rose]

i thougth i can use them to make everything get same amount of fuel

[reef basin]

no, fluids work best when given freedom to do what they want

[surreal rose]

alr

[reef basin]

and valves don't do anything useful for the flow really

[surreal rose]

time to play hide and seek with 60 valves across the factory

[tranquil saffron]

i mean, they stop it right? if thats what you wanted to do 😂

i love the username though, keep hating pipes but once i was able to flow anything up any building i felt somewhat liberated

[surreal rose]

where can i throw excess steel? i have too much of it

[tranquil saffron]

make something and sink? idk

[surreal rose]

alr

[reef basin]

why did you made excess steel in the first place? 🤔

[nova ridge]

what do you guys use to plan our your factory? satisfactory tools doesnt account for powershards and sloop

[worn crown]

Pen. Paper.

But I don't advocate for doing as such

[surreal rose]

well, i had tractor running with steel, that wasn't enough i made truck and it didn't fill up so i decided to make second steel producing factory, i made too much and started train, now it's too much

[reef basin]

powershards don't change anything really
sloops are easy, just produce 1/2 of what you want to do

[surreal rose]

actually it does count powershards, if you press on resource there overclock % and you can set it to max of 250(idk about sloop tho, didn't unlock it yet)

[reef basin]

it doesn't

[surreal rose]

they do, from 240 miner to 600

[surreal rose]

i mean in O menu

[reef basin]

SFTools don't show miners

you can just set your limit of raw items/min

[sterile blade]

It's always funny to see someone trying to tell what's inside SFTools to its creator

[nova ridge]

ill power shard everything now. but i wont sloop everyting. it changes som stuf esp if its a very end game item

[surreal rose]

what is sftool?

[reef basin]

well then build 2.5 times less machines 🙂

[reef basin]

its' the thing they are asking about 😄

[surreal rose]

oh

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[nova ridge]

so what should i use instead

i want to account for power and sloop

[reef basin]

as I said - for slugs you just calculate the amount of machines from what Tools give you
for sloops, you make less of a product

[sterile blade]

Modeler can use them, but it's also a relatively different kind of planner

There should be some planners like SFTools than also count Sloops and shards, but I don't recall any names right now...

Oh wait, FactorioLabs maybe?

[surreal rose]

btw what sloops do?

[sterile blade]

Output multiplier, up to 2x

[surreal rose]

so the same as powershards?

[tall lantern]

no, those are speed multipliers

[sterile blade]

No, those change the speed of a machine

[reef basin]

no, it multiplies just output

[surreal rose]

ohhh

[reef basin]

but they are very limited and generally used only on last step of a complex production

[tall lantern]

or a cheap early step (SAM)

[reef basin]

imo it's always better to multiply last step as that technically multiplies everything before it

[sterile blade]

Or just wherever you want (biomass and anything you might be lacking at some moment in time)

[surreal rose]

where can i find another pure sam node? i found one on the pillar but it will be quite annoying to build and deliver

[reef basin]

use the scanner 🙂 or if you don't mind spoilers, use the online map

(though it's full of spoilers, so I'd be careful with it)

[surreal rose]

i don't care about spoilers, even more i need spoilers so i have point to where i want to get

[reef basin]

I mean if you have fun that way, who's to judge you

[nova ridge]

#screenshots message

would this U pipe work without a pump?

leaving refinery entering blender

[clear mesa]

yes

it can go as low as it wants relative to the machine, will always go back up

[frosty mirage]

Good morning mate

[clear mesa]

Goooooodmorning

have to get off soon as I have to go do some actual work 😭

[frosty mirage]

I finished my motor factory yesterday finally!!!

[clear mesa]

but ill be available later today :p

[mortal ginkgo]

ah building factories is a hard work for men indeed

[clear mesa]

niceeee share it if u want

[clear mesa]

real men's hands are hardened from pasting 1 building at a time

[frosty mirage]

#screenshots message

[frosty mirage]

Design is not my forte, im still learning, but efficiency is there

[clear mesa]

perfection is the enemy of progress :p

a working system is better than an aesthetic broken one

plus all that shit can come later

[frosty mirage]

I agree, plus im still sinking for coupons

For all design related things

[clear mesa]

yeah, those orange walls give me nightmares

[frosty mirage]

Yea they are horrible

I'll need to start working on oil and petroleum infrastructure and im scared 😭

[clear mesa]

i conversely had to take a break yesterday to get my sleeping schedule in order again

[clear mesa]

honestly it's one of my favourite parts of the game

apart from how annoying fuel gens can be to bp until you get an mk3

[frosty mirage]

Im mk1 😅

But yea, just need to figure out all the connections between recipes

Then i'll get back to finishing my everything iron scaleable factory

And then i'll see the fk is goin on with the damn trains

[clear mesa]

honestly you already have a great idea of modular scalibility with your vertical setup

[frosty mirage]

Thats a nice step ngl

[clear mesa]

so not much changes other than you have to play around with refineries instead of constructurs and oil extractors instead of drills

there is some annoyances with byproducts but nothing major

[clear mesa]

i encourage u to test them out asap tbh

[frosty mirage]

Yea, I just hope the far left location on the map with several crude oils and water is good enough for a vertical setup

[clear mesa]

i made the mistake of learning them too late

[frosty mirage]

And i hope that verticality for pipes is not gonna give me a headache

[clear mesa]

errr it's not the worst if they're straight up

[frosty mirage]

Yea whats left will get sinked or packaged most likely

[clear mesa]

pretty easy to meaasure 10m apart with foundations at that point

[frosty mirage]

Myea, stopping my progress to catch on with oil and trains and manufacturers

[clear mesa]

mycelia?

[frosty mirage]

In mam u mean?

[clear mesa]

no im just not sure what myea means

[frosty mirage]

Ahhh, its just yea

😂😂

[clear mesa]

ah mb

yeah honestly if i had to restart

id take my time and automate every single part before going through to the next phase

it's a pain in the ass to have to go back because i didnt fully properly automate something

the independency route is fun but ngl ive been wanting to create one giant mega factory in the center

[frosty mirage]

Thats why i wanna do a modular iron factory, so i dont have to come back to it later and if i do, i just scale it for more resources

Like with the motor factory

[clear mesa]

lol the real issue comes in routing iron nodes to it

[frosty mirage]

Right now its at 10/m, but the nodes available around allow me to increase to 25/m without the need of long distance resource transportation

[clear mesa]

with mk2 miners yeah?

[frosty mirage]

Yep, logistics is 65% of the work

[hoary light]

is that a known issue that some monsters are invincible?
there is a t2 hog in front of me and he is alive after 10 car bumps about 20 xenozaps and almost 100 iron bolts

[frosty mirage]

Not utilizing an iron node fully for the motor, so used an mk1

But can replace when needed

[clear mesa]

Haven't had that happen to me personally 😭

Sounds good, you have plenty of place to scale then even without adding more logistics

[frosty mirage]

Lol, usually after 10 bangs anything dies

[hoary light]

yea i know thats why its so weird

[frosty mirage]

Yup and i can merge things in my subfloor designed exactly for logistics if they ever get too complicated

[clear mesa]

Oh yeah you're aptly prepared

No need to worry about oil 😭

I've been meaning to route logistics up on the ceiling, i've seen an example of someone doing it and i thought it looked really cool

[crude canyon]

damn, the base heat sinks are actually copper expensive af

[frosty mirage]

I did that below my subfloor for logistics (as i planned for an additional space below just in case) and it does look neat

Those ceiling mounts are great

[quartz yoke]

Is there a Road-Map for further changes?

[clear mesa]

Don't think so

I'm pretty sure some people complain about transparency over what we're getting for updates 😭

[clear mesa]

those and wall mounts are what i tend to get first

[quartz yoke]

just did a wild start, 3 hours in I've got a pure Geothermal hooked up, and just about to enter phase 3 😄

[frosty mirage]

The only change i need is water extractors to be allowed in blueprint designer if you put the designer in water

[quartz yoke]

I'd love to be able to put water extractors into blueprints

[frosty mirage]

It only makes sense to allow water extractors in it as long as its in the water

[clear mesa]

well they seem to be focusing a fair bit on fluids for 1.2....so maybe we get it as a surprise :p

[frosty mirage]

I hope they read this then lol

[quartz yoke]

@frosty mirage I could hook up 3 more pure geos as well if I put my mind to it, but no need for the whole of the next phase

I ran from desert to swamp at the start of the run too

[clear mesa]

i gotta search up the fastest time it took for someone to beat this game

[frosty mirage]

Im still on my 1st playthrough, 110 hours in (although around 10-25 are idle time), i only saw grass fields lol

[frosty mirage]

7 hours 51 minutes

[clear mesa]

no way

[frosty mirage]

Yea thats the wr

Any%

[quartz yoke]

for a team or solo?

[frosty mirage]

Solo

[clear mesa]

yep found it

wow..

[frosty mirage]

The way they do it

Had a look on some sequences

[fiery pewter]

That's about the same time as the average GTAV speedrun 😭

[clear mesa]

yeah i just skimmed through and saw the spaghetti level go from 1 to 100

[frosty mirage]

Puttin craft bench on nodes and doing craft + mine in the same time

[frosty mirage]

Ye its insane

[clear mesa]

speedrun tech in satisfactory

i wasnt even aware of that

[frosty mirage]

Also lots of hub builds and dismantles and respawns

[quartz yoke]

I've often dumped several portable miners onto a node and just dumped the contents into storage

[clear mesa]

16s for the fastest doggo tame... 🤣

[frosty mirage]

Isnt it 7 seconds?

[quartz yoke]

you get faster throughput early on that way

[clear mesa]

from speedrun.com the lowest i can see for 1.1 is a 16.110ms run

[frosty mirage]

I also found out there is a slide in this game after 100 hours 🤡

[clear mesa]

did you find the slide jump tech too?

[frosty mirage]

Oh maybe 7s was for an earlier version 🤷🏾‍♂️

[frosty mirage]

?? Blades or?

[clear mesa]

no lol, slide then jump instantly and keep repeating as long as the surface isn't an incline

and you increase speed basically infinitely

[frosty mirage]

Oh no i didnt know that lol

I used to speedrun in destiny 2 a bit

Like moving rly fast

Not actually doing speedruns, but just moving fast af

[frosty mirage]

That changes everything lol

[clear mesa]

yeah there's usually a way to move faster in pretty much every game

whether it's included on purpose or not

[toxic lichen]

So

Automated power
Goated

Over clocking
Goated

Rebar gun
Very cash money

Ive made
Some nice progress
I’m loving this ;-;

Ah yes
And the blade runners ;-;

[frosty mirage]

Use that with slide jump as n1c said above

Didnt test yet as im working rn but sounds like a ganechanger for movement

[clear mesa]

It is

[toxic lichen]

Slide jump e’-e’
Didn’t know that was possible

Just completely forgot how to crouch

[frosty mirage]

On ps5 its O and i think pc is C?

Idk pc, dont listen to me 😅

[toxic lichen]

It is yea

I just
Forgot to the point I thought you couldn’t crouch At all

[clear mesa]

The only con is how slow you'll feel from now on walking up inclines until you get a jetpack to avoid those altogether 😭

[frosty mirage]

Zipline jetpack is the best movement i had so far

Gotta test the slide

[real shale]

Hypertube cannon my beloved

[toxic lichen]

I think
My worlds been running like
12 hours or so since I got off last night

I wonder how much stuff I have built up ;-;

[clear mesa]

Ofc nothing beats this for instantaneous long distance travel

[real shale]

I love hitting the side of a mountain at Mach 20

[clear mesa]

At least 3 iron rods

[frosty mirage]

I dont have cannons yet 🙁

[toxic lichen]

Maybe even 4 if I’m lucky

Shit
I forgot to automate smart plates
Before I stopped playing ;-;

I’ll never recover from this blunder

[frosty mirage]

Im curious, does the game produce items if you are not on the game?

[toxic lichen]

It does not

Like game closed
No e’-e’
Tabbed out
I think? Yes

[quartz yoke]

@frosty mirage it does if you run a dedicated server 😄

[toxic lichen]

Or that

[frosty mirage]

Im on ps5 so yea

Alright so idling actually helps in this game huh

[toxic lichen]

Yur

I do it every night

I think myself
Only played about 8-12 hours
But my save is 40-50 now

[frosty mirage]

I have 110 hours, but maybe 15-25 is idle time

But idle is good so yey

[toxic lichen]

Idle more my child

[frosty mirage]

I literally idled sll the time while at home since i play

When i was doing other stuff

But idling overnight for example is harder on ps5

Idk if i can do it

[steady cedar]

You don't need to afk if you don't want to, just try to make bigger factories with large storage and do something else as it fills up

[clear mesa]

Or have one constructor for every item and idle for 600 hours

[quartz yoke]

@frosty mirage dedicated servers can work with PS5 as well I think

[frosty mirage]

Nope

Sadly

I mean internet says that its not possible

I'll fix up my pc soon tho

Hopefully my config can run satiafactory

I built it 3 years ago

[quartz yoke]

PC master race as always

[frosty mirage]

But i think it should be able to, it cost me 2k euros ffs

[quartz yoke]

the PC I built 7 years ago can run Satisfactory 😄

[clear mesa]

I await

[frosty mirage]

I've got an amd config 7600x with 6950xt

Ram and storage good enough for the above

[frosty mirage]

Im looking rn for places where i can fix it

I'll accept that my 1st time building a pc failed a bit and will accept help

My ego will suffer so that my pc can live on

[frosty mirage]

THIS IS VERY IRONIC BUT the place i found is called

FIXXIT

LOL

[clear mesa]

Well if anything it's aptly named

[quartz yoke]

I've been building PC's since my first 486 DX2 66.... it ran at 66Mhz

[frosty mirage]

I love hardware but i suck at software

[quartz yoke]

<-- programmer....

[frosty mirage]

I think something happened that was eating up too much power

I had spikes in power consumption when running games

[quartz yoke]

I was today years old when I found out you can just dump items directly into the space elevator 🙁

[frosty mirage]

750 power source should have been enough for it but idk what was causing the issue

[frosty mirage]

Thats what i do lol

[sly delta]

is there a way to move down a bunch of blocks in a blueprint ?

I designed a conveyor bus pylon that's pretty tall by default and wanted to make a shorter version by shortening the base but now it's floating in the air

[quartz yoke]

split the blueprint into sections and reassemble.

[sly delta]

well I guess nudging the blueprint in the designer works too

[sly delta]

I'll try this too actually, thanks for the tip

[quartz yoke]

I've got a refinery blueprint I use where I've not added a floor to it, so I nudge when placing.

I've got power poles and wall mounts I use for alignment.

[valid timber]

this factory im doing is driving me nuts

[quartz yoke]

(this is for a vertically stacked tower, highest I've had is 12 refinery tall.)

@valid timber need a hand?

[valid timber]

haha no ive got all the planning and stuff done it's just...
I just spent 30 minutes on a problem i already solve because current me couldnt trust past me

#screenshots message This is where I'm at right now and this was easily the biggest hurdle in the build, the rest of the planning from here on out is painfully simple

Probably looks to childs play for a lot but for me some of these ratios and stuff really trip me up.

Certainly a note for next time is to plan where I want resources to come up floors much, much ahead of time.

[quartz yoke]

@valid timber just posted my copper powder stack, input is 3600 copper ore, output is 1500 copper powder

[valid timber]

looks clean! I like it

[quartz yoke]

I have water pumps in the basement, that get piled into bottles that get run up the stack.

[valid timber]

Woulda been annoying trying to get that water up I feel

[quartz yoke]

annoying part is having to attach all the splitters and mergers for every input/output

[valid timber]

yeah im there too right now

kind've helped by using blueprints but I had to do a lot of load balancing for this one ratio in particular

took me wayyy too long...

[quartz yoke]

I had to hook up 96 refineries and 32 water unpackagers

manifold ftw!

[valid timber]

manifolds for the win indeed

[near siren]

its great when you finally get a transit route working 100% 😄

i was worried about starting again but it seems it was the right call

[frosty mirage]

Central storage space or a soundsystem? 🤔#screenshots message

[unreal basin]

I'm at work. But i must optimize my factory

[toxic lichen]

im assuming there is some sort of way to organize my stuff

so i have all my containers in 1 place

cause
having them all over seemed
to work
since i didnt want conveyors everywhere
but now its a hassle to grab anything and hook up new productions

any way i look at it
its either gonna take a whole lot of space
or
look hella messy

would it be better to like

have main resource processing take place by the nodes

and have all the parts shipped on over

So like
copper i turn into coil / sheets and wire at the node
then ship it over

[coral marsh]

Wassup nerds

[valid timber]

theres people who ship raw resources to a main compound and build there, people who build at nodes then set up trains to transport them, or people who have the resources stay the nodes

I'm a personal fan of the second one, but honestly its to each their own

[toxic lichen]

yea i did the first one
and it made sense at the time
now
its biting me in the ass

[quartz yoke]

if you doing that you NEED to build massivly vertical

[toxic lichen]

think i need to leave my main compound for the more complex crafts than js
iron rods and plates in here as well

[valid timber]

i think people usually do it the other way around

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'

[valid timber]

how far are you into the game, what phase?

[toxic lichen]

2?

did space elevator

[quartz yoke]

have you shipped the 50 smart plating yet?

[humble osprey]

i need to pipe some water from rly far away

[tall lantern]

usually easier to send the solids to the fluids

[humble osprey]

pipes or train?

[valid timber]

what meindratheal

build near the fluids

[quartz yoke]

@humble osprey put it in bottle and ship the bottle alongside a return belt for the empties.

[valid timber]

that works too but then you have to have packaging plants up