satisfactory

[tall lantern]

even if you don't sloop that's still 2.5k

just gotta spend a lil time exploring

[real shale]

A really good place to find them is titan forest

[fading whale]

I have well over 2k.
There are a LOT of slugs. A pink slug will give you 5 shards. If you sloop that constructor, you get 10 shards pr pink slug.
Find just 10 of the pink ones, you have 100 shards.

[real shale]

There's a lot of purple slugs on the tops of the trees and even a few sloops

[oak nymph]

What do you mean sloop them?

I handcraft my powershard tbh

[real shale]

When you put them through a constructor to make power shards you can double them using somersloops

[fading whale]

You need to research alien tech in the MAM. And also pick up a somersloop. The red shiny things.

[oak nymph]

Yeah I unlocked slooping but I didn't know you could build powershard on constructor

[real shale]

Yeah, it's the same with alien DNA

[midnight wagon]

Hey, everyone o7 New to the game! It's been great fun, but also terribly addictive.

[real shale]

You can quadruple the capsules you get using the same method

[oak nymph]

I don't even know what are the capsules for I never used them

[dim mist]

biofuel is actually infinite effectively infiinit for allintents and purposes #screenshots message

[real shale]

They are used for sinking

You get seperate points for sinking them

[fading whale]

Have you researched Power Slugs in the MAM ?
That unlocks making them into shards.

[white beacon]

I miss my factory tails, I miss it a lot

[oak nymph]

Yeah unless the synthetic powerslug

[fading whale]

Then opoen your codex. Search for shard. There you can see that you use a constructor to squish slugs into power shards 🙂

[mortal stone]

Can't tell whether it was a good idea to use 4x4 foundation Mk 1 tileable blueprints

My modular factory design is based around 4x4 tbf

[cyan prism]

Hello!

[midnight wagon]

[ornate saffron]

I want to have every recipe unlocked beforee moving to the next phase. so while machines wind up and pump out parts i explore. I get frustrated, i explore

[hearty totem]

Guys if I play with Vulkan the clouds get red and flickery, like fireworks. Is it known?

[oak nymph]

I ignored most slug while exploring

[ornate saffron]

that would do it

[fluid crow]

building rails to the opposite corners of the map brought great treasures

[fading whale]

Then you have a good reason to take another stroll around the map 🙂
Scanner in hand. Jetpack (I hope). Fuel.

[oak nymph]

Lol I've explore most the map there only the middle of the red bamboo ( too scared) and dune desert and a tiny part of the swamp because I didn't have gas filter at the time

[fluid crow]

being able to hop on a train to less explored areas yields more loot

[umbral rover]

i have a quick question for yall

how tf is my fluid buffer filling at 602m per min

[fluid crow]

hacks

maybe both pipes is filling it

[feral jay]

It's not, that's a UI quirk

[umbral rover]

the fluids in this game are a quirk

[stone moth]

How do you get The golden ficsit factory cart

[fading whale]

You need to ||sink a golden cup||.

[stone moth]

Thank you

[umbral rover]

me over here fr never drinking water again because of the trauma this game has inflicted from its liquid mechanics

[fading whale]

Next plummer you call will be confused when you start screaming.
"What's the flow rate? WHAT'S THE FLOW RATE?!"

[fluid crow]

Brawndo it's got what plants crave!

[stone moth]

Aw man when you dismantle the golden factory cart you only get a normal one

[feral jay]

THAT'S THE WATER IN THE PIPES SLOSHING!

[umbral rover]

i crashed out so hard last night

[fluid crow]

the pipes be rumbling

[umbral rover]

im useing 600m per minute and producing 600 and also using a raised buffer

so idk wtf

bout to go back to minecraft fr

[feral jay]

It reads 602/min, but that's the UI lying to you

It's actually 600/min

[umbral rover]

yeah i figured

[fluid crow]

if the water sloshes just right it exceeds the velocity of a swallow

[umbral rover]

wish my mom would've

[feral jay]

I think it's because the variable used for the UI display is an 8 bit number, so it's translating a value from 1-256 to a value from 1-600, and it doesn' always work out nicely

Valves used to have the same problem, they could only have 256 possible values

[visual elm]

mhhhhm i've got 12k concrete

[reef basin]

It has two comnections 🙂

[feral jay]

But, don't quote me on that

[reef basin]

Remove the buffer

[reef basin]

Nah, that was never the case afaik

[umbral rover]

okay

[feral jay]

Yeah I'm not entirely sure about it, but it would make sense to me why my vlave readings don't give me what the valve is actually set for in some cases

Off by just a few m³/min

[umbral rover]

valves are stupid too

[feral jay]

Avoid valves, they generally cause more problems than they solve

[fluid crow]

to get more that 256 out of a 8 bit number it seems like you would have to multiply the result and skip some numbers entirely

[reef basin]

Valves had it differently

[feral jay]

My thinking is that the UI display is a actually a number from 0-255, but scaled to 0-600, so each value is multiplied by 2.35. 256*.235=601.6, and that would round to 602

Or it's something like that

[reef basin]

Fluid system in the game is fine, though valves indeed don't solve any problems and are not recommendes to be used

[unkempt blade]

we're out here overclocking everything and I love it

[umbral rover]

the fluid system in this game makes me wanna commit scooter ankle

[reef basin]

No, the UI combines values from both connected pipes, and we very much know how bidirectional pipes are so it could very much be that both sides are filling it

[feral jay]

Oh for a buffer yes that could be the case, my thought train was about valves

And their display readout

[reef basin]

That's most likely because you don't understand it yet

[rain hollow]

"Any undefined" means that anything not set to a specific output is sent through that output for the smart splitters right?

[umbral rover]

do you wanna teach me then?

[reef basin]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with the issue you have and screenshot

[feral jay]

yes, it differs from "any" because if you've got something defined, it won't overflow to an "any undefined" output, but it will to an "any" output

[umbral rover]

okay then stop being a smartass

[rain hollow]

Thanks

[reef basin]

what?

[rain hollow]

My truck stop stopped working and I wasn't sure how to fix it but that helps

[floral pewter]

hellooo, someone here wanna talk?

[umbral rover]

you know what i mean mr terraria master mode is totally balanced over here

[reef basin]

no, I legit do not know

[umbral rover]

idk im sorry im just pissed off

[glad sorrel]

Can I somehow search for a item I need? The SCIM says I got 9k of it but I have no idea where.

[unkempt blade]

The best medicine for that is building a skatepark for factory carts

[leaden turret]

new headcanon:

doesn't have animation glitches, it has invisible skateboard

[feral jay]

I assume there's a way to filter out just storage containers on SCIM's map, that would certainly help you find it

[glad sorrel]

Yeah I know but got plenty of them

[fading whale]

In-game, no.
Easiest way to se what is stored where, is to point at a container or building with your build gun in disassemble mode. By looking at what you would get back, you can tell what is stored in there.

[feral jay]

Try the remote factory mod, it's got a buildable/hand tool you can use to list all storage containers and their contents, and then instantly transport yourself to its location when you find it in the list

[south dirge]

whys copper gotta be so hard to find

[umbral rover]

because why not

[glad sorrel]

Thanks!

[feral jay]

The teleport feature in that mod is pretty cheaty though

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @somber smelt

[feral jay]

I'm using it this save because I have to have every machine running at 100% all the time, it can show me any machine that isn't and then take me right to it, rather than me interacting with hundreds upon hundreds of them to find it

[visual elm]

TIL: you can dismantle crash debris

[sick falcon]

how do i q cancel on riven

[quasi warren]

Im so close to finally completing phase 3. To unlock tiers 7 and 8.

Im so close...

[covert quarry]

is it hard?

[quasi warren]

I hand feed the manufacturers.

I just need a few more engines to be able to hit the next phase

[covert quarry]

the onese fed into the space elevator?

[quasi warren]

Yea

[fading whale]

IMO, Phase 4 is when the game starts 🙂
Tons of fun ahead.

[sick falcon]

^^

[oak nymph]

Are the issues related to fluid apply to gas as well

[fading whale]

No. Gasses come with their own issues 😂
I would argue gas is easier than liquids though.

[oak nymph]

Like what

[ornate saffron]

Gases don't use headlift

[oak nymph]

I mean what are their issues

[feral jay]

VOP/VIP junctions also don't apply to gases

[fading whale]

Wouldn't exactly call that an issue. More like a huge advantage.

[sick falcon]

they dont like buffers, so only transport them in trains while packaged

[feral jay]

Generally they're just easier to work with than liquids

[fading whale]

No clue. My setup just work (famous last words) 😇

[oak nymph]

I never used buffer anyway

[fringe carbon]

Im all the sudden getting a ton of crashes when using the mrkIII blueprint maker in my creative world with effectively an empty world, like one crash every 10-15min.
Before i could build blueprints for hour without issues has anyone else been experiencing something similar?

[oak nymph]

What is that VOP/VIP

[ornate saffron]

Same issues as fluids other then headlift. I feel like they take forever to flood pipes as well. But that could be im needing to supply 2000 fuel generators though

[feral jay]

Variable Input/Ouput Priority

[oak nymph]

Still don't understand 😭

[feral jay]

You can create wacky pipe setups so different output or input pipes will be used first

But the methods used don't work with gases

[oak nymph]

Ah bon

[rain hollow]

Is it difficult to set up explosive rebar?

[fading whale]

No. Gunpowder is the most complicated part of that. Regular rebar is just iron rods. Combined, it goes boom 🙂

[rain hollow]

I thought it also took steel tubes

[sick falcon]

i didnt realize until now smokeless powder is gunpowder 😭

[fading whale]

Correct. But still. Easy.

[sick falcon]

if you cant automate steel tubes easily thats a larger problem

[rain hollow]

I have but I don't know if it's enough tubes because i already use a lot of them

[sick falcon]

do you have the iron tubes alternate recipe

[rain hollow]

No, what is the recipe?

[sick falcon]

20 iron ingots > 5 steel pipes

its much more expensive, but its less complex

[rain hollow]

Not bad

[fluid crow]

how many explosive rebar you planing on using lol

[rain hollow]

all

[quasi warren]

Im scared-

[rain hollow]

I just want the nukes

[sick falcon]

unlock the rifle

[oak nymph]

So can gas be transported long distance via pipe easily

[rain hollow]

Why?

[sick falcon]

its so much better than the rebar gun

[oak nymph]

No

[fading whale]

Usually you don't need to continuously make ammo. (unless you play very aggressively!).
Fill up a container or two and upload to the cloud.
So you can just take out a chunk of pipes for that.

[rain hollow]

I'm assuming it's more expensive?

[rain hollow]

I set it up to be automatically made and uploaded so I always have it

[fluid crow]

not really

[feral jay]

I don't need to, but I automate my ammo production, becuase this is an autmoation game, so I automate everything

Plus, automating ammo is great for awesome points when you sink what you don't use

[rain hollow]

Does the turbo rifle ammo deal the same or more damage than explosive rebar?

[fading whale]

Sure as fudge depends on what you want to shoot at.
The rifle can't remove boulders or trees. 🙂

[sick falcon]

i prefer nobs for those

pulse nobelisks eviscerate foliage

[fluid crow]

they both have 4 on the damage bars

[rain hollow]

How expensive is turbo rifle ammo to make?

[fluid crow]

quite cheap

[fading whale]

You need regular ammo, alu, and turbofuel. So it's a process.

[rain hollow]

I can't even do that yet then

So I'm Better off with explosive rebar

[fluid crow]

there is normal ammo

[rain hollow]

I know

I want explosives though

[fluid crow]

but re bar can be fun

[rain hollow]

There must be blood shed

[oak nymph]

?

[fading whale]

I pretty much only use that. I don't like to eredicate everything. With the rebar I can remove obstacles and leave most of that area otherwise untouched.

[feral jay]

I use snowballs for removing rocks and stuff

[fluid crow]

once I did get the turbo ammo setup I made 6 crates in a short time

[coral marsh]

Gas requires zero headlift and flows freely in pipes

[rain hollow]

I mean until I get turbo rifle ammo, then I'll switch over

[sick falcon]

im such a slow player that i made a 20 block of storage units for nuclear waste and its still going to be full before i finish this stage 😭

[rain hollow]

At some point I think you can recycle it

[fading whale]

Still can't remove boulders with that. So have both handy. All depends on the use case.

[rain hollow]

Wait the explosive rebar does the same thing as nobelisks?

I thought it was just more damage

[fading whale]

Yes. But less damage radius.

[rain hollow]

But that makes sense now that I think of it

[fading whale]

You are basically shooting sticks of TNT 🙂

[rain hollow]

you know what would be REALLY fun?

Nobelisk cannon

[fluid crow]

a pipe bomb on some rebar lol

[fading whale]

I mean. You use steel pipes in the production. So that is literally what it is 😄

[fading whale]

That exist.
Nobelisk + doggo + jump pad.

Yeeeet

[rain hollow]

No hurting the doggos

[fluid crow]

how do you get it to walk on the jump pad

[rain hollow]

And I mean like a grenade launcher you can have in an equipment slot

[fading whale]

There are no happy endings on Massage 2.

[rain hollow]

And you can use any nobelisk type

[fluid crow]

I see a pipe bomb type of thing my mind goes to duke nukem

"That's gotta hurt"

[humble osprey]

i need to play satisfactory but i need it to not be heavy on my pc so that it doesnt make the fan spin super fast cuz then my parents will know im playing video games

is this a niche problem

[fading whale]

I think it is 😉
Also why I always pay a bit extra for silent cooling and cabinet.

[frosty mirage]

Factory carts suck 😭

[humble osprey]

take that back

[mortal ginkgo]

if parents dont understand that factory must grow, are they our parents anymore?!

[frosty mirage]

Call the factory cart guy

I stand by my statement

[fading whale]

"Need to play Satisfactory" and "parents can't know".
Pretty sure those are signs of addiction.
Something I am sure most of us in here can both accept and respect.

[mortal ginkgo]

@unkempt blade

[frosty mirage]

Ah yesss

[humble osprey]

no-???

[mortal ginkgo]

You are playing when you are not supposed to. Don't be naughty.

[fluid crow]

you must be doing it wrong

[fading whale]

Don't get caught

[mortal ginkgo]

Grow up, get a job, play anytime you are free = me 😛

[humble osprey]

i dont think ill get a job till the next 10 years brochacho

(premed)

[frosty mirage]

I drove it around, dont care much for it

No need for it i guess at the point where i am

[fluid crow]

omg I would never drive one

[fading whale]

On terrain or foundations?

[mortal ginkgo]

they can be used via truck stations and they ask no fuel, cute to have them wobbling around delivering very small amount of goods needed.

[frosty mirage]

Terrain

[fading whale]

It's a good way of transportation when your builds get bigger.

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats the problem. They are a FACTORY cart. They go proper on foundations only.

[fading whale]

Yeah ok. Do NOT use it outside foundations 😄

[frosty mirage]

Im sure, but i dont see a need for them rn

Probably gonna be useful later

[fluid crow]

last time I got in one It tried to drive me off a cliff

to its credit it did re appear after driving off the cliff

[frosty mirage]

Wait

You can load them?

[fluid crow]

1 stack no power(except truck stop), no collisions

[fading whale]

It has a single slot. So one stack of whatever.
You can even give a path to drive automatically like the tractor. And it doesn't use fuel.

[frosty mirage]

I'll have them carry for me small amounts of mental sanity when building my next factory

[fluid crow]

I had some automating ammo for a while

[frosty mirage]

No fuel is appealing tho

[humble osprey]

how much do u produce

[fluid crow]

however much I shoot. It was major overkill for ammo

[humble osprey]

number?

im looking to make 120 per min, is that too much in ur opinion?

[fluid crow]

depending on the stack size and distance a couple carts could easily do 600/m

[quasi warren]

... so many new things have been unlocked for me. yippee

[fluid crow]

mine was driving across my factory and had a 2 minute round trip so 1/2 a stack a minute in that case

[humble osprey]

also, thoughts on using a blueprint to trap hostile animals so u dont have to fight them?

[fading whale]

It would be difficult to place, as fauna blocks placement (like ore in the terrain).

[fluid crow]

they pretty much don't come around anymore near your stuff after a while

[stone moth]

I beat satisfactory! I totally didnt use a duplication glitch to only make one of each project assembly part and then just duplicate them all and then duplicate tickets to buy all the parts needed for the project assembly parts

[fading whale]

An alpha hog will still yeet you off the map before you're done building if you don't pay attention 😉
Block them in (ideally at their spawn point) makes for safer working conditions.

[whole ermine]

what happens if a train stalls on a ramp

does it stop or does it fall back down

[fluid crow]

once you hit phase 4 it's just like hover pack around oppressing varmints

[fluid crow]

they can slide backwards

[mortal stone]

Anyone wish there was smaller lights designs available?

Both the ceiling and wall mounted lights are too big for my current build

[fluid crow]

I wish they were brighter the big pole like is like the only one that really lights stuff up

[feral jay]

You can use signs as lights, just set the to nothing but a white background, and turn the brightness way up

[fading whale]

Don't have steep ramps. Stick with 1m ramps for long stretches. 2m ramps for shorter. And always have enough locomotives. One locomotiv pr. 4 wagons ideally.

[feral jay]

I think you need lumen turned on for that though

[fading whale]

Lumen (global illumination) is required for them to cast light. But your trick will still make them look brighter.
And by manually entering a value higher than 100 (or whatever the slider goes to) even more so.

[forest nova]

is there some setting or trick or something to make catwalk ramps snap correctly? I swear TG it snaps everyway except forward which is the way i want it to snap. Every. Single. Time.

[unkempt blade]

he's a new player, he's just ignorant about carts

[fluid crow]

just lock blueprint and nudge it where you want

[forest nova]

ahh good idea. thanks

[drowsy prawn]

i have a question which is better mega factories or modular factories ?

[fluid crow]

both

[scenic mirage]

well fml lmao ive been putting off building my steel beam factory bc i swear theres an alt recipe to just use an iron ingot for beams. apparently its pipes 🤦

[lusty escarp]

12gb update today???

[scenic mirage]

huh

[lusty escarp]

satis got a 12 gb update for me

[fading whale]

Console?

[lusty escarp]

steam

no patchnotes

and it wasnt my cloud syncing

[scenic mirage]

dont i know you from somewhere? 🤨

[lusty escarp]

OH HEY YOU

[fluid crow]

is no update on steamdb

[lusty escarp]

lmao funny seeing you here

[nova ridge]

its crazy how little of the world you have to exploit to finish the game

also is there no pure uranium?

[clear mesa]

nope

only 2 normal nodes and 3 impure

you can convert into more uranium if you really wanted to

[nova ridge]

i really should craft some ionized for flying around. i keep dying when i run out of rocket fuel

actualaly my last death was to a blue fireball

thats the beast that shots right

[pastel dawn]

1800 hours I've still never used a cart for moving parts.

[pastel dawn]

Tap the rocket button dont ever hold it down. And always save a small amount to burst before hitting the ground if youre not going to make your landing.

[nova ridge]

thats what i do but sometimes i over do it

[unkempt blade]

why are you denying yourself one of the greatest joys in the game?

[frosty mirage]

Damn right i am

Waitin for it to become relevant

[unkempt blade]

that's exactly why I only use recipes that include screws so I totally understand where you're coming from

[near stratus]

Diluted Packaged Fuel or Turbo Blend Fuel

[whole ermine]

Do you need to load balance train station outputs

Right now i have 2 iron stations going into 2 sseperatate storage containers going into a load balancer

[slender bear]

Why can't I upload from my inventory to the dimensional depot in multiplayer? Is that a "Host only" thing?

[mortal ginkgo]

Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve punishment! PUNISH ALL HERETICS!

[slender bear]

We just unlocked that tech

[clear mesa]

theres a separate mam upgrade to do that

[slender bear]

Yeah, we just unlocked it

Manual Depot Uploading

[clear mesa]

it isn't host exclusive

try placing a depot down if you haven't yet

[nova ridge]

oh.. alien power matrix gets consumed

[slender bear]

Yeah, putting something into the depot allowed both of us to upload from our inventories

[nova ridge]

way too early to automate that then

#screenshots message

why do i have th is objective?

i completed the game

[swift turtle]

is this game difficult to run

[nova ridge]

depends on your rig

[swift turtle]

on second thought ue5 tells me everything i need to know tbh

[reef basin]

np, I'm offering you assistance, but for that I need more info, hence why I asked you to make a thread where you can put images and explain your problem 😉

[ornate saffron]

My laptop is a 10300h and a 3060 it runs the game well.

If that helps

[whole ermine]

Do block signals cause much lag?

or can i spam them everywhere

[pastel dawn]

Moved to the top of my todo list

🫡

[white dawn]

They shouldn't, though I think technically placing new signals could cause routes to get recomputed. I generally recommend slapping block signals every 200-300m or so on the straightaways. Can do more often than that, of course; some folks just do it with every "long" rail segment

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
time to do modular engines

[drowsy prawn]

should i finish all the hub tiers first before doing the space elevator tiers? because right now I'm stumped on what factory to build next.

[whole ermine]

how long is 1 platform?

[white dawn]

Max single rail segment is 100m

[white dawn]

You don't have to, though most of them are essentially required since you need 'em to make the elevator parts

But there's definitely stuff you can skip if you don't want it

[whole ermine]

ty

well i dont do max segments i do in 11 platform increments

[white dawn]

The layout of the tier milestones makes them look like you're supposed to do them "in order" but that's not necessarily the case, apart from the ones which end up with relatively strict "dependencies"

[whole ermine]

since 11 is easy for keeping constant turns and whatnot

[white dawn]

Sure! If you want to do a signal at every 11-foundation segment like that, things'll still be fine; I'd be surprised if you ran into problems with that

As I say, I tend to make mine longer, but it's personal preference

I suppose one thing to note is that if you're using Path Signals on intersections, you usually do want the blocks leading up to that intersection to be longer, otherwise trains will always decelerate going into the intersection

[whole ermine]

oh im a dummy i found out why my game is lagging!

[white dawn]

It takes trains a little bit of time to reserve their path, so the longer the block heading into the intersection, the less likely it is that they'll start braking

[whole ermine]

i was taking pretty screenshots and left all my graphics settings at ultra

cry

[white dawn]

(Though in fairness, that deceleration is unlikely to actually affect train throughput, so even if you do have shorter blocks leading up to a Path-Signal'd intersection, it's probably fine)

[whole ermine]

my cpu and gpu are being toasted like a marshmellow

[peak wasp]

What's the best way to evenly build a refinery blender factory for rocket fuel with the recipe that doubles in the blender

These late game factories are hard

[whole ermine]

Does the time it takes to travel (assuming no waiting, no other trains) will it have perfect output from miner to output?

[white dawn]

The max throughput of a single freight car is a function of the route's round-trip time and the stack size of the item itself. You can compute those (at least once you know the round-trip time) but IMO it's rarely worth it -- I just set up the route and watch the stations. If one freight car is doing the job, then that's good. If not, I'll add another car or two. :)

[stone moth]

After I beat the game, I decided to make a new world, any starter base tips in the desert?

[white dawn]

(wiki page about those calculations, fwiw: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput)

[hushed totem]

Man trying to find the motivation to beat phase 3 or 4, idk whatever tier 7 and 8 are is hard

[white dawn]

I generally always like to have a healthy "overhead" in my freight car capacity so that the train route can deal with intermittent delays (if an intersection gets busy or if I'm tearing out some rail to build a new intersection or whatever)

So, like, I'll want to make sure that my freight cars aren't loading real close to their limits

[stone moth]

My advice is to find a friend that you enjoy playing with, and then play together, thats how i was able to push through the boredom

It also gets a lot better when you unlock mini nukes

[hushed totem]

The issue is friends

[stone moth]

I loved blowing my friends up with them

[hushed totem]

One, finding friends, and two, friends that'd actually play satisfactory with me

[white dawn]

@pallid ridge (re: #screenshots message ) -- First off: questions with pictures attached are far better asked in #1038092680493801533 . Much nicer to just have them inline. But regardless: you don't use a miner for oil, you need an Oil Extractor (which you'll get in Tier 5). It's a liquid, not a solid. :)

[hushed totem]

I'm just moving base to the dessert to finish this all up and it's a little tiring to start a whole new thing

[cyan leaf]

Indeed uts just tier 2 that I never wanna repeat of i start new cause it so annoyingg

[pallid ridge]

Yes, the extractor i knew. But I can't put it there. Sorry about that tho, my apologies

[cloud scarab]

3 youl prbl spend 4 hours running around killing each other (speaking from experience)

[nova ridge]

hell yeah packaged ionized fuel

too expensive to craft until now

is it just me or is nuclear just lackluster vs rocketfuel

its a ton of balancing and complexity and gains are not as good as just blindly making rocketfuel burners

[onyx echo]

Can someone help me with train troubleshooting?

[reef basin]

it's just you, nuclear is great

(and you don't need to balance anything in this game)

[nova ridge]

600 uranium is like 30gw right?

it burns 20gw

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 post and include images, preferably with segment colors

[reef basin]

depends on recipes and such

[onyx echo]

Thx

[white dawn]

Oh, gotcha. So the extractor just won't place? I wonder if you're actually looking at a Resource Well, which is something else entirely. Could you post a bigger image of the whole thing in #1038092680493801533 ?

(It didn't look like a resource well to me, but maybe that's one of the well nodes in close-up)

[wary falcon]

i was told smart splitters help speed up distribution when doing manifold load balancing but i dont see how it does, anyone wanna let me know?

[white dawn]

Honestly the difference is probably not huge. The theory is that you use Smart Splitters whose Overflow output is what gets sent down the line

[reef basin]

I'd say that while it does speed it up a bit, I wouldn't bother with them

[white dawn]

So at first, 100% of the input goes into the first machine, and only then does it start going into the second, etc

[wary falcon]

ahh alright i wont use it, its such a pain to set settings

[white dawn]

It does technically reduce the warm-up time a bit, but yeah, the difference isn't huge

[wary falcon]

ohh i see

[reef basin]

though not sure if it actually does speed it up that much, given that it needs to fill one extra machine at the end

[placid stirrup]

I'm getting 180GW out of 900 uranium

[quartz garnet]

My coworkers have been chatting nonstop about this game. I was wondering if anyone has had any insight on when the next sale would be? Not sure if I should wait or just buy it full price now

[white dawn]

Mm, yeah, I suppose an "ideal" Smart-Splitter-fed manifold would probably still want to use a regular splitter heading into the last 2 machines

[reef basin]

for obvious reasons sales are not announced in advance. And imo the game is very well worth its price tag

[wary falcon]

why?

[quartz garnet]

Fair enough, that was the push I needed. Buying it now

[white dawn]

'cause that way the final two machines can share the remaining output 50/50 right away, without having to wait for the penultimate one to fill up

That's the usual end-state of a "regular" manifold -- the input buffers on the first n-2 machines will be full, and the last two input buffers will be essentially empty (but getting the material they need just at the right time)

[unkempt blade]

I've bought like 19 copies I think. Each one more worth it than the last

[void cliff]

6 copies so far for me. One for each family member on steam and one on the Xbox

First copy I bought was pre 1.0 for my son, then I played it with Steam family sharing and got hooked!

[onyx echo]

Wait wuts segment colors?

[quartz garnet]

From what my coworkers have said about it, it seems very addicting

[void cliff]

I kinda am interested in playing multiplayer but it’s difficult to find friends who want to play it. Playing with randoms seems kinda like too much work

[reef basin]

when you hold a signal in hand, rails show segment colors, which helps debug some issues

[sinful goblet]

Is there any "perfect ratio" when it comes to overclocking? What should i know?

[void cliff]

250% is the perfect ratio

[reef basin]

not really, clocking is just a very powerful logistical tool that allows you to have things in ratios you want

[quartz garnet]

That was interesting to me too. They all play together so I thought I should hop on the train

[sinful goblet]

??

[onyx echo]

Signal?

[reef basin]

personally I'd recommend first playthrough to be solo and not affected by tutorials and videos. Better to learn on your own by doing things

[reef basin]

yeah

[quartz garnet]

Thats the plan! Only other factory sim gave ive played was dyson sphere program so Im still rather fresh

[zenith pecan]

You only get the first playthrough once, and some mistakes are utterly hilarious, they form a part of that journey.

[void cliff]

Fully overclocked everything to minimize number of machines!! Overclocking barely uses more power. It’s like 30% more power compared to making 2.5 machines

[sinful goblet]

but it will max out my power pretty fast?

[merry tendon]

any dsp players here?

[void cliff]

You just make more power, but it depends what stage you are at.

[quartz garnet]

Can anyone provide their opinion on controller vs mouse/keyboard for this game?

[zenith pecan]

Tbh, if you're maxing out your generator capacity, build more, way more.

[void cliff]

Both are pretty good. KBM is better for combat. Controller is better for ergonomics.

[soft marsh]

Been busy af in this game. Start a project and next thing I know five hours have gone by

[sinful goblet]

im at Tier 4

[quartz garnet]

Gotcha ty!

[void cliff]

If your friends all play on PC, just know that console can’t join PC game 🙁

[soft marsh]

Ive done both, I prefer keyboard but mainly because I'm used to it. The controller I felt suffocated since I had to learn how to do everything all over again. So I'd say whichever you start with, stick with

[mortal ginkgo]

Console players dont need to join with other players.

The only best friends they need is Impure Limestone Nodes!

[void cliff]

Interesting take, lol.

[mortal ginkgo]

Zero bias too, can you believe it in this day and economy?!

[mortal ginkgo]

My opinion is it is good enough. Just not enough if you want to decorate and do tons of combat, which both are optional.

[soft marsh]

Truly a miracle worthy of praise

[quartz garnet]

ty guys for the help, it just finished downloading 🙏

[frosty mirage]

Whats the story behind you and impure limestone nodes?

Is it a romance? Is it about accepting limestone as it is?

[stone moth]

Hear me out, they should add mirages in the dune desert, like maybe theres a mirage of a copper ore node, but it doesnt appear on the scanner, or maybe a pool of water

[mortal ginkgo]

There was this one guy bitching about automation games and refusing to take feedback. Someone said his opinions are literally worthless than an impure limestone node late game.

I was moved by that comment.

[mortal ginkgo]

why are you so evil

[stone moth]

I mean, the dune desert is reccomended for advanced pioneers, so if they scan for copper ore and it doesnt appear, they should be able to reasonably deduce that it is a mirage

[mortal ginkgo]

You didn't answer the question, you evil person.

[stone moth]

I just think itll be fun

im not evil trust

[torn lichen]

Same

Plastic bottlenecking my machines haha

[frosty mirage]

The only mirage is real life and we keep falling for it and pausing our work at FICSIT for it

[frosty mirage]

Thats LOVELY

[stone moth]

I feel like if then you fall for the mirage, ADA should say a snarky comment

[void cliff]

I’m gonna play a game where I don’t use overland conveyors (AT ALL) and don’t use the DD

[stone moth]

and then maybe in the mam you could unlock an anti mirage device or something

[unkempt blade]

yeah and all of the factory carts!

[indigo kiln]

My love

[void cliff]

I just learned they can use elevators 😮

[floral pewter]

Can steam and epic play together? seems like my friend who is on epic games has a older version than i do

[strong fiber]

Steam and epic can crossplay

[reef basin]

and both epic and steam have same version of the game

[strong fiber]

And the game updates on all platforms at the same time

[floral pewter]

so why does he have "with no updates available" a lower CL version than i do?

CL-433351 thats what he has
and i have CL-463028

[stone moth]

Imo the dimentional depot and the awesome sink are the two best structures in the game

[reef basin]

imo the depot made the game way too easy and got rid of interesting solutions for a common problem 🙁

[feral jay]

Ill take those two, adn raise you a particle accelerator

Those things are just cool

I like the DD, moving materials to construction sites was never an interesting problem, it was just a chore

[reef basin]

construction vehicles were fun to build

[feral jay]

yeah they were cool

[peak wasp]

the depot saved the game cause before it was walking back and forth thousands of meters between factories

[reef basin]

hence why construction vehicles

[unkempt blade]

no hypertube? 🙁

[peak wasp]

I still need to learn vehicles and trains

[crude canyon]

When you want to play some satisfactory but your pc starts overheating

My poor CPU at 100°C

[versed cosmos]

try restarting your pc

[crude canyon]

That's not the problem

[elfin smelt]

clean your heatsink and reaply thermal paste

[crude canyon]

Yeah
Thing is, I did that less than 6 months ago

It's also funny that it's getting 100°C

On the main menu

[unkempt blade]

nah that's just normal computer stuff

[uneven edge]

Is there a point in storing screws in a storage facility

[unkempt blade]

maybe very few for equipment

[floral pewter]

what cpu u have ✌️

[crude canyon]

Yes, either splitters or mergers require screws

[versed cosmos]

nope

neither splitters nor mergers require screws

[reef basin]

not much, but honestly with DDs you can just put one constructor in front of it

[uneven edge]

Ok

[versed cosmos]

dont make a screw factory

[crude canyon]

I5 -8400

2.8ghz

[versed cosmos]

try to eliminate screws with alt recipes and if you absolutely must use them just make them on-site

[unkempt blade]

screws are pretty fun you're missing out

[whole ermine]

yayy rcu factory is done

10/min

[floral pewter]

yeah no idea, try increasing the speed of ur cpu fan

[crude canyon]

Congratulations!

[crude canyon]

Oh

[versed cosmos]

i havent made radio control units yet

[crude canyon]

Screws aren't that bad, if you transport them by factory carr

[versed cosmos]

mostly because they need crystal oscillators

[crude canyon]

Who's gonna tell him

[whole ermine]

whar

[crude canyon]

Well, I needed to make around... 30

For turbo motors

[reef basin]

well turbomotors will have their own rcus made

[whole ermine]

Yes

[stone moth]

As soon as i unlock stitched iron plates, no more screws. Ever.

[reef basin]

why hating them so much

[feral jay]

Becasue they're evil and everyone who uses them is evil

[versed cosmos]

i much prefer the standard reinforced plate recipe with cast screws

[proper lintel]

Can I use elevation to control the excess water from aluminium flow?

[versed cosmos]

yeah there's some arrangement of pipes that priorotises waste water

[sullen gull]

Alu beams > steel screws > Bolted Iron Plate! 4lyfe! 😏

[reef basin]

yes and no.

much better option is to not merge fresh and recycled water

[feral jay]

Yes, although learning how is a process

[sullen verge]

I just died to 5 hellspiders in the swamp, respawned at my starter base and the pen that I had 4 doggo's in, is now empty.
🙁

[frosty mirage]

Just finished watching Alex Honnolds free solo climb on Taipei 101, i got inspired damn, but now time to do some factory work

[sullen gull]

Lmao, I literally just got done watching his Documentary 🤣

[frosty mirage]

Im curious, did anyone ever build a skyscraper in satisfactory?

[sullen gull]

A few.

[versed cosmos]

tons of people have built very tall builds

[frosty mirage]

Free solo? You should watch the livestream from yesterday, its on netflix

Climbin taipei 101 is frikin insane

[frosty mirage]

Space elevator tall? 🤔

[sullen gull]

Yeah, noticed that after. The Documentary was enough though. Seeing his "process" and methods of thought was rather eye opning.

[versed cosmos]

no the space elevator goes above the height limit

[frosty mirage]

Whats the height limit?

[versed cosmos]

im not sure how tall it is exactly

my mind is bringing up 512 4m foundations from sea level but im not sure that's right

[sullen gull]

2,247m

[frosty mirage]

Give it a try when you can, its inspiring af. Also, buildering is a bit different from bouldering, no friction, grip is harder to maintain, everything is different

[whole ermine]

stitched iron plate numbers are awful

[versed cosmos]

yeah thats why i dont like it lol

can always change clock speeds tho

[reef basin]

that's discrimination for numbers

[sullen gull]

Used to live in NM, I'm aware 😏

[reef basin]

and not like you need them to be whole and nice, only thing you care is matching input and output

[frosty mirage]

Is it m or km?

[stone moth]

from now on, i will automate project assembly parts instead of just gathering the materials when i decide to build them

[sullen gull]

2.247km or 2,247m. 😏 I was looking at the wiki and thought I initially typed it wrong, then realized I didn't 🤣

[whole ermine]

I always change clock speeds so there’s an even number of buildings

[reef basin]

that's possible with literally every recipe

[whole ermine]

Yes

[frosty mirage]

So 562 walls

Huh, thats not a lot

[sullen gull]

Given the scale of the Pioneer to the world, I'd say that's a good amount .

[versed cosmos]

yeah no one's hitting the height limit by accident lol

[frosty mirage]

I mean yea it sure is, but you can reach it in a reasonable amount of time

Building smth of that height tho is totally different

[sullen gull]

And one should try, if they haven't 😏

[versed cosmos]

well yeah if you're soley focused on just reaching it yeah you'll get there pretty quick

[sullen gull]

Achievements and all. 🤫

[versed cosmos]

a hover pack and bringing power up with you would be all it takes

[versed cosmos]

just ride the drop pod up when you complete a milestone

[frosty mirage]

👀👀

[sullen gull]

Naaaah, just ladder up 😏 . It's kind of fun lol

[frosty mirage]

Can u do that?

[versed cosmos]

yup

[frosty mirage]

How?

[versed cosmos]

hit the button and have a way to get up to the pod before it launches

ladder is sufficient to get there in time

[frosty mirage]

I'll sacrifice progressing a milestone just for this

[versed cosmos]

oh empty your inventory

death crates can behave a bit weird when you die by hitting the death zone above the map

[frosty mirage]

Im on keep everything

[versed cosmos]

oh no problem then

mine ended up under the map and i had to save edit to get my stuff back

[sullen gull]

Or just turn on 'Keep Everything'. No real "hard mode" in keeping it to keep equipment (or nothing 🤷‍♂️ )

[versed cosmos]

i play on passive mode anyway lol

[frosty mirage]

I play passive+keep everything

[sullen gull]

I would like to have it on retaliate, but it doesn't work 😭

[frosty mirage]

My first 20 hours was harsh

A hog was harassing me

[versed cosmos]

yeah i tried retaliate

[frosty mirage]

Badly...

[versed cosmos]

hog only takes a few zaps with the xeno zapper

[sullen gull]

Lol, not all of them 😛

[frosty mirage]

I know, i just didnt see them coming

I zone out sometimes

[versed cosmos]

in any starting zone lol

[frosty mirage]

I have a cat distracting me a lot

Irl

[versed cosmos]

imagine they put nuclear hogs around all the starting iron nodes

[frosty mirage]

And i was ambushed a few times while i was zoning out

I think i had to go 5-6 times from my base to coal power plant location because of the frikin hogs so i just said fk it and went passive, then it glitched out for some reason and i had to do it again for 2 more times

And i had no real means of transportation

[stone moth]

I just saw a spitter get killed by a spider 😭 i didnt know that was a thing

[scenic mirage]

yeah its like minecraft mobs will fight each other

[frosty mirage]

The circle of life

[versed cosmos]

hearing the screech of a spider lunging at something while im on passive mode is fucking haunting

[stone moth]

Yes\

I always play passive mode

[frosty mirage]

The fact that they crawl around you while on passive is creepier than being attacked

[junior creek]

Hey sorry to interrupt you guys but I have a quick question

If you can answer

[versed cosmos]

how RUDE

[stone moth]

You know how the biomass burner lowers its consumption rate to match how much power is being used? I wish it applied to every building

[versed cosmos]

yea go ahead man

[primal flax]

did they ever fix the buggy pip floor holes?

[versed cosmos]

fun fact it used to be the case

[junior creek]

😔😔😔

[sullen gull]

yes

[versed cosmos]

then we got power storages

[cosmic kelp]

Is it just my game, or are dismantle crates bugged for everyone?

[primal flax]

i will never understand fluid in this game i litterally moved a pipe a few inches and its broke everything

[junior creek]

Does the game like get easier the longer you play because I’m in the early stage and the automation and stuff seems like a lot of work

[versed cosmos]

it gets more complex but you get a better understanding

take your time learning the basics

[sullen gull]

should have moved it in meters 🤷‍♂️

[cosmic kelp]

I'm on tier 4, but having the right tools and understanding makes things a lot easier

[junior creek]

Oh okay thank you!

[frosty mirage]

How early are you into the game?

[cosmic kelp]

Once you have a near unlimited supply of resources and the ability to use blueprints, factories will go up fast

[primal flax]

yes, learn about blueprint factorys

[mint kraken]

Hey everyone im new to satisfactory only 88 hours really enjoying it is there an importance in balancing your factorys such as having it so its the perfect amount of iron and componenets going into creating that major resourse like lets say modular engines or things such as that?

[primal flax]

i think my pipe issue is fixed lol

[coral marsh]

sometimes you may jsut need to remove certainparts and replace them

[cosmic kelp]

Somewhat. In my experience things are most efficient if everything is perfectly balanced, but it helps a lot if there's slightly more input than output so the belts are full to absorbe variation

[junior creek]

I acquired that little spacecraft that send stuff into space and the first like uhhh idk what’s it called like upgrade I got was the one with the chainsaw I think it’s like in stage 2

[junior creek]

stage 3 is still locked for me

[coral marsh]

awwwwwww he's still upgrading the hub

[versed cosmos]

no no he finished onboarding

he has the chainsaw

[primal flax]

no, but your machines will use slightly more power because they are always starting/stopping. aluminium production is when things can get tricky and needs to be more precise

[frosty mirage]

Oh so you finished onboarding?

[coral marsh]

ignor what i said lol, i'm tired

[versed cosmos]

too much factory building. take a microbreak

[junior creek]

I was born today

[coral marsh]

lol

[versed cosmos]

and welcome back. hope you enjoyed your microbreak

[junior creek]

I guess so

[frosty mirage]

Well, just take it easy, honestly up until phase 3 manual craft will get you further than automation

[cosmic kelp]

Is 53 hours for blueprints, stable high-power coal plant, and big factory beginnings good for a first playthrough?

[coral marsh]

i placed down 60 coal gens before hoping off, i want a lil bit more power before i get into making rocket fuel and trippling down on my fuel gen count, that is the next project though

[primal flax]

only 200 more hours to go

[cosmic kelp]

lol facts

[mint kraken]

how do you go about balancing something that has weird input numbers like right now im trying to setup a modular engine factory but 90% of the machines need a .xxx number in manifacturing or something and its just losing me lol i get the weird numbers from satisfactory calculator

[cosmic kelp]

over/underclocking

[versed cosmos]

change clock speeds

and add overflows

[junior creek]

Like I only have two automated ores like I have automated copper and iron but they’re kind of far away and I was thinking about getting a very long conveyor belt to bring the copper to a storage unit closer to the iron factory I made but is that like efficient like to make that long of a conveyor belt

[frosty mirage]

Just learn the basics of building, dont worry too much about automating everything at the start, do manual crafting to get milestones and unlock useful things

[junior creek]

Oh

[coral marsh]

80 gens wil give 6Gw (oh yea, it's 80 coal gens not 60 lol)

[versed cosmos]

do NOT manual craft all the way to phase 3 lol

that sounds like torture

[junior creek]

I noticed that it’s lowkey faster to do the things manually but I wanted to like step into automation asap to see how the things go and stuff

[coral marsh]

heavily advised against lol

[primal flax]

first part of the game is spaghetti until you eventually move accross the map and build a new base

[frosty mirage]

That doesnt mean you shouldnt build at all, but some manual crafting can be faster than building a factory around an item

[mint kraken]

So i understnad the clock speed but im more so confused on the tranfering of materials like these 3 machines need 101 iron ore and the other two need 98 you know how do i get to those numbers

[junior creek]

You mean like the start is easier?

[versed cosmos]

yeah the start is easier

the game builds on what youve learned previously

[junior creek]

well I made the chainsaw manually while the automation was preparing stuff for another like upgrade to unlock more stuff

[versed cosmos]

coal power is your tutorial for fluids before you start getting into oil

[frosty mirage]

Maybe for the more experienced sure, but for me crafting shit like modular frames was helpful to unlock things i needed that made building efficiently more easier

[surreal rose]

You made an example about 101 and 98 right?

[junior creek]

dude I was using regular leaves till I got the chainsaw I didn’t know I could turn it into better biofuel🥹

[coral marsh]

mate, i have voer 400 hours in the game, i still manually craft things if i need em

[fading whale]

Lets say you can transport 2x100. You feed the 100 to one machine that takes 98. The remaining two will overflow and can be merged with the other 100, so you have 102 for the next machine. (provided the belts have the capacity and so on)

[versed cosmos]

yeah if you just need a few more parts manual crafting is great

[frosty mirage]

I crafted like 50% of milestones in phase 2 x.x

[reef basin]

though I wouldn't handcraft anything if possible

[cosmic kelp]

Is there any easy way to make an overflow without smart splitters? I don't have them unlocked yet

[reef basin]

not really, what is the usecase?

[fading whale]

If you use a "manifold feed". That only requires normal splitters and mergers.

[reef basin]

wtf is a bus feed?

[junior creek]

I saw the game in a TikTok edit like yesterday and it looked cool so I searched it up saw it’s an automation game and I bought it today 😭

and I’ve been playing it for like 5-6 hours already

[cosmic kelp]

Already using bus feed for most stuff, just thinking about this scenario with 102 and 98. I think I got it tho

[fading whale]

Ment manifold. But it's also a bus.

[reef basin]

manifold is not a bus 🤔

[mint kraken]

is there any good place to get blueprints to use in my own word that i can just place and use?

[frosty mirage]

Point is that in the beginning not everything needs to be automated, find the rythm of the game, experiment, and when you need a milestone done, dont hesitate to craft it manually

[reef basin]

make two groups of machines, one making 102 and other 98

[junior creek]

Alright thanks man

[surreal rose]

clog the main way and rest will go aside, smart splitter mostly for sorting(example when train gets 2 resources in one load point and mixes them up on unload and you need to sort the)

[junior creek]

I appreciate your help guys

[frosty mirage]

For me reaching higher milestones helped me get more things i needed to build better

[frosty mirage]

And whenever you need help, you can hop on here, community is quite nice

[junior creek]

I mean right now I’m kind of lost like idk what to get next

[cosmic kelp]

Would running this on linux give me better performance on my lower-end hardware?

[junior creek]

Yeah I figured I already love the community

But these types of games can’t have a bad community

[frosty mirage]

What does the game require of u rn? Whats ur milestone?

[mint kraken]

i guess a better example than 98 and 101 is in maular engines 2 a minute satisfactory calculartor says i need to send 147/min and 36/min iron ingots to two different machines but lvl 1 belts are either way to much or 2 little

[junior creek]

Well like the objective is to build the very large launch pad I think it’s called something like the space elevator

[reef basin]

same as above, make two groups of machines, one making 174 and one 36

[mint kraken]

so just split the machines and underclock the smelters to only make those amounts

[reef basin]

(and just fyi - Satisfactory calculator's planner starts doing weird things in more advanced productions, generally not recommended to use it)

[mint kraken]

is there anything else to use to help with the numbers other than the calculator

[frosty mirage]

Did you unlock the MAM already or not?

[fading whale]

Really nothing that's "too much" with belts. Just mean there's more space on the belt. Too little, yes. If you need to feed 147, you need at least mk3 belts.

[reef basin]

there's several planners, f.e. Satisfactory Tools (calculator), or Modeler on Steam (logistical planner)

[junior creek]

But I’m trying to go through the smaller upgrades before I go to that objective and idk what to get really I saw some base building stuff but I don’t need those now really and I saw like that assembler but I don’t need it yet since everything I produce at the moment doesn’t require more than one part

[reef basin]

persoanlly I'd plan logistics ingame though, so I wouldn't recommend modeler, but some people use it 🤷

[junior creek]

what’s that?😅

[frosty mirage]

What tier are you in right now if you check the hub?

[junior creek]

2

I remember

[lament sedge]

I can’t tell if a visual glitch is making it seem like I’ve got a choke point or if i actually have one and it’s breaking my mind because everything should be working fine 💀
4 smelters, 30 iron ingots per minute, I’ve got them all outputting into a manifold line, ive double checked my maths time and time again that each conveyor is the right level going from Mk1 to Mk2 where they combine to 120, and I’m getting stalls? Is there an obvious thing I’m likely missing here?

[mint kraken]

i try and do it in my head but i have trouble remember the recipes and amounts

[frosty mirage]

MAM is a building you can do that is about research, you can unlock some new stuff there also by researching, for example, hog remains (the things a hog drops if you kill it)

[reef basin]

well, f.e. Satisfactory Tools can do the math for you

[mint kraken]

f.e?

[stone moth]

Has anyone actually confirmed the existance of the jet pack hog

[reef basin]

for example

[reef basin]

yes, wiki

[junior creek]

Oh I saw that in one of the milestones should I go for that one?

[cursive crane]

saw it my very first time loading in, 2000 hours later I havent seen it since

[cosmic kelp]

what is the jet pack hog?

[surreal rose]

Average hog with jetpack as a drop

[frosty mirage]

It can be useful, but it requires some exploring. Honestly i would just take each milestone one by one, so if you need 20 iron rods, get 20 iron rods. If you need 100 cement, get 100 cement

[surreal rose]

There's literally no difference between them visually and they very rare

[wooden jewel]

do you need smart plateing for every phase in the game

[fading whale]

A nightmare basically 😄
Read at bottom:
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alpha_Hog

[junior creek]

oh so you think I should like finish all the currently available milestones before finishing my current objective?

[versed cosmos]

Yes. Smart plating will be used to produce future project parts

[wooden jewel]

i hate screws even more now

[fading whale]

Pretty much.
Later elevator parts are more advanced and are made from elevator parts used in previous phases.

[versed cosmos]

You can just set up an assembler making smart plating and some containers and just hand feed it

You need a few thousand

5 i think

[frosty mirage]

Doing the milestones one by one will ease you into the game slow and steady, dont worry if things are not organized or automated already or things like that. And you should definitely go with milestones before the objective imo

[sterile blade]

Unlike normal hogs, they tend to sprint through the air too... Quite easy to notice

[wooden jewel]

i know but i need the stuff that makes smart plaiting so bad and i don't have an easy way to automate it atm

[drowsy prawn]

is stitched iron plate a good alternate recipe for iron plates?

[feral jay]

yes

[frosty mirage]

Go to the hub, select the milestones and go through them, those will unlock features helpful for reaching the objective

[versed cosmos]

make 10 reinforced plates and 8 rotors/min

that makes the numbers easy to deal with and you can scale that up

[junior creek]

Yeah I was thinking about doing that but it seemed like unnecessary work but I trust your advice you obviously have more knowledge about the game

[surreal rose]

Through air? Thats not quite good

[versed cosmos]

so if you need more plates, make 20, or 30, or any multiple of 10 so the numbers stay easy to work with

[junior creek]

Thanks!

[cosmic kelp]

Seriously though, my bugged dismantle crates are really annoying

[wooden jewel]

i need 320 screws per minute to do that and yeah..

[feral jay]

Those hogs sprint? I thought they were just teleporting

[versed cosmos]

build them as seperate factories

[sterile blade]

They can be quite dangerous~

[wooden jewel]

thats a good idea

[frosty mirage]

Im only 110 hours into it, started quite recently, but i do know it can be a bit overwhelming in the beginning, so yeah, just do the milestones, those will naturally give you everything you need to reach the objective as well

[versed cosmos]

youll use the whole map eventually

trying to build everything in one place just makes the game harder

[cosmic kelp]

it does

[versed cosmos]

starting areas have tons of iron

[junior creek]

Okay thank you!

[stone moth]

Jetpack hog has a jetpack on it and it has special attacks

[frosty mirage]

Good luck man, keep us posted

[junior creek]

Are there some other transport ways other than conveyor belts?

[versed cosmos]

yeah later youll get trains

[junior creek]

Thanks!

[scenic mirage]

@unkempt blade

[versed cosmos]

there are trucks but theyre a bit bad

[frosty mirage]

You will unlock zipline, jetpack, trains, tractors, trucks

[surreal rose]

Ig someone lied to me about meeting jetpack hog, he's getting his factory nuked now🦐

[feral jay]

Many, many different transport options. Basically, conveyors, trains, trucks, and drones.

[cosmic kelp]

I have this weird glitch going on in my game: Any time I dismantle something and I don't have enough inventory space, it goes to whatever the nearest dismantle crate is, regardless of distance. I do have the merge dismantle crates option turned on, but that's supposed to have a 100m range cap. This is taking my stuff and putting it in a dismantle crate like 600m away that's just full of raw ore

[junior creek]

Oh damn the game is actually massive😭😭

[wooden jewel]

should space elevator phases be taking a long time

[junior creek]

I actually am even more encouraged to play it now

[frosty mirage]

Its much much more complex than it seems

[surreal rose]

Btw sprit jump slide jump again and repeat and it will give you pretty good speed

[junior creek]

What’s the first transport vehicle I unlock cuz I kinda need one soon

[wooden jewel]

tractor for cargo or zipline for yourself

[feral jay]

Probably the tractor?

[junior creek]

I can slide?

[cosmic kelp]

hold c when sprinting

[junior creek]

That’s stage 3?

[surreal rose]

Yes, you supposed to unlock every milestone and automate everything before going in next phase

[feral jay]

Yep and if you slide+jump, you move even faster

[frosty mirage]

Tractors actually but they are not worth it. Do you mean transport yourself or resources?

[junior creek]

Ohhh thanks

[wooden jewel]

lemme see

[cosmic kelp]

get the boots and you'll go so dang fast

[surreal rose]

On C (idk about console)

[junior creek]

Recourses because I’d like to get copper a bit closer to my hub

[junior creek]

I’m on pc thanks

[frosty mirage]

Conveyor belts

[surreal rose]

Zipline you can research in MAM and tractor on phase 1 or 2

[wooden jewel]

yes tractors are stage 3 and zipline you research in the mam with caterium

[junior creek]

I tried but they’re really expensive for that distance

[frosty mirage]

Until trains i say go with belts

[junior creek]

It’s like 250m

or something

[frosty mirage]

Well, start crafting materials

[wooden jewel]

speaking of trains when do you unlock them

[frosty mirage]

Welcome to the game

[junior creek]

lol alright then

[frosty mirage]

Tier 5

[junior creek]

Can’t wait!

[wooden jewel]

[frosty mirage]

No wait im wrong

[wooden jewel]

its not at 3 or 4

[frosty mirage]

Its tier 6

[junior creek]

damn

[wooden jewel]

[frosty mirage]

I just unlocked trains

[surreal rose]

5 and 6 are same tbh since you unlock 2 phases at once

[junior creek]

Btw is there like an objective you have to follow though the entire game or does it leave you on your own at some point

[surreal rose]

I wonder why truck and train on the same tier

[wooden jewel]

but sometimes you need to research something in teir 5 to complete teir six

[frosty mirage]

You do have objectives and milestones through the end, but you will have sideprojects

[surreal rose]

Your objective is to build one thing that you will see after you unlock space elevator, ada will tell you some lore

[junior creek]

Like building factories and stuff to make everything easier

Or other kinds of side projects

[frosty mirage]

Also design and architecture

[junior creek]

Oh thanks

[wooden jewel]

power is the big side project

[frosty mirage]

Some people build skateparks and shit

[midnight wagon]

Oh God I finally was able to unlock and make the blade runners T_T

[frosty mirage]

Infrastructure is also a big sideproject, especially power infrastructure

[surreal rose]

You could say it's MAM bc not everything in MAM used just for factory

[junior creek]

Is base building really like an important factor here because I kind of suck at building things

[frosty mirage]

You will learn, no worries

[wooden jewel]

using foundations is a must but otherwise it doesnt have to be pretty

[frosty mirage]

The game forces you to learn

[reef basin]

functional is enough, you don't need nice 🙂

[surreal rose]

Oh and also exploring MAM, won't spoiler what but you will have something else aside from your normal factory in future

[reef basin]

not a must, but recommended

[lament sedge]

Is there a reason two Mk1 conveyors with 60pm going into a Merger with a Mk2 with 120 capacity should be stalling? Its happening on every manifold I’ve been trying to make suddenly and idk why

[wooden jewel]

VERY Strongly reccomend

[junior creek]

Alright I guess😅

[reef basin]

nah, wouldn't even recommend it that much

[surreal rose]

Not really important, just easier to walk around and you'll understand where and what located

[reef basin]

not much reason, apart from having small piece of mk1 somewhere (e.g. in the merger)

[frosty mirage]

Factory efficiency will become a priority at some point, but you can also get into design if you wish so

[junior creek]

I’ll TRY to make it nice

[junior creek]

it definitely won’t end up very pretty

[wooden jewel]

but like rocks and stuff get in your way

[wooden jewel]

you can always ask people to join your game and help too

[frosty mirage]

There is no immediate threat, so you can play however you want and in your own pace

[reef basin]

then you build around them or remove them

[wooden jewel]

you can remove rocks?

[surreal rose]

Desert🙂

[junior creek]

I guess I’ll find out more on that as I progress

[lament sedge]

That’s the only reason I keep seeing online but there’s no stray pieces! Four 30pm smelters are causing staggers for my 120pm output and it’s baffling me 😭

[junior creek]

Then I’ll know if I want it to be pretty or not

[frosty mirage]

Yep. I stopped progressing on tier 6 to try to catch up with the factories and to make them more efficient

[junior creek]

Oh yeah I forgot it’s also a multiplayer game

[reef basin]

try rebuilding the merger and see if there's possibly a small piece of mk1 inside

[reef basin]

you can remove most small foilage/rocks

[surreal rose]

Btw just so you know if you get annoyed by enemies attacking you while you building you can make them passive in setting or retaliate

[reef basin]

though I'd recommend first playthrough to be solo

[junior creek]

I guess this is my call to learn how to organise things

[wooden jewel]

i would agree but if you really need it it will be nice

[junior creek]

well for now i haven’t encountered many and im guessing I’ll have some weapons later on so that shouldn’t be a problem I hope

[wooden jewel]

using foundations and straight mode on convers makes it easier to be organized

[frosty mirage]

Also in the settings besides setting creatures on passive, you can also set it so that you keep all your items when you die. Otherwise when you die you lose everything in a crate that you need to go and get

[surreal rose]

Why does my refinery works on one floor perfectly fine while other working on less than 50%

[lament sedge]

I have there’s truly nothing wrong with the conveyors that’s why I’m stuck. two 30’s combining into a 60, that plus a 30 then go into a Mk20, that 90 plus another 30 go into another Mk2 but stall, despite only reaching 120/120pm

[surreal rose]

You will have more weapons using MAM but there's alpha versions of enemies which can kill you in seconds

[junior creek]

I already have an issue with making conveyors organised 😭

[frosty mirage]

Its normal, its called spaghetti

[surreal rose]

Don't organise, let it flow on its own

[midnight wagon]

I am new to the game and I also am very bad at organising stuff, but if I can offer some advice if would be the following: do no try to make things look pretty. I am in the beginning of the game (I just unlocked coal) and I cannot tell you how many times I just attempted to make the most beautiful factories only to realise the designs were bad in light of the new things that I'd unlock or due to the higher or newer production requirements. Also, do not try to make one big factory. Just have one small production unit per node and work from there.

[wooden jewel]

straight mode on belts was a life saver for me

[junior creek]

Ohhh thanks but I’m used to that since I’ve spent half of my life on Minecraft 😅

[scenic mirage]

i love how i can find the wet concrete alt recipe but i dont have refineries unlocked yet 😭

[junior creek]

Damn😭

Makes the game more interesting tho

[frosty mirage]

As long as it makes sense for you, no need to organize. You will end up dismantling and rebuilding everything several times anyway

[wooden jewel]

how do you find alternate recipes

[junior creek]

hmmm I’ll see how it goes then

[vale quail]

Hard drives

[frosty mirage]

Hard drives, there is an interactive map for them

[scenic mirage]

there is, but wheres the fun in that? theyre meant to be searched for 😉

[junior creek]

Thanks that helps a lot since we are both on kind of the same page here

[surreal rose]

Hard drives, you can find them at crash sites, there's resources around them and most of the time to unlock thing with hard drive you need to give it resources, power or it's not broken and can be opened for free

[junior creek]

What does it do?

[junior creek]

Oh okay then it makes stuff easier for me

[surreal rose]

Basically makes your conveyors go in sharp turns instead of curve

Like straight line, turns left and after straight

[junior creek]

Oh yes I need that

[junior creek]

Yeah I understand that’s great

[frosty mirage]

It depends on playstyle i guess, some people prefer it over exploring on their own

[surreal rose]

BUT be aware that it takes more resources than curve bc length of conveyor will be longer and is not recommended for long distances

[wooden jewel]

sorry it makes them have sharper turns and they dont let you curve them

[frosty mirage]

Thats the build mode. You can see when you build that you have a build mode option

[scenic mirage]

meh im usually one for saying play however you want but i would never tell someone they could cheat to beat the game faster

[junior creek]

Oh I didn’t see that thanks

[frosty mirage]

Its not cheating tho, its a tool that can be used. I prefer finding them on my own but i know some prefer to know everything all at once

[scenic mirage]

for the first playthrough tho?

[wooden jewel]

you press R while building to change the build mode

[surreal rose]

Also if you want to take a picture of something press P, also you can press R to activate free camera while in photo mode(there's invisible barrier around your character that won't allow you to go too far with free camera)

[junior creek]

Guys I wish you all a goodnight and thanks a lot for helping me out here you’ll definitely hear more from me soon since I’ll get lost in the game definitely 😅

[junior creek]

I’ll try that thanks

[surreal rose]

Gn

[frosty mirage]

I heard people talking about specific coordinates for places recommended for whatever build on yt after 7 hours into the game so yea haha

[junior creek]

Thanks

[surreal rose]

Also you can hold E to quickly change between similar builds

[junior creek]

Oh I saw that I use it it’s helpful

[scenic mirage]

fascinating. it almost seems like its ok to do bc someone else does it

[frosty mirage]

You do hold on very strongly to your beliefs

I respect that

[scenic mirage]

idk i just think the first playthrough the user should be left to fully explore themselves, maybe a bit of external help at the later parts

but when they dont even know how to find alternate recipes, telling them how to find the exact locations of all hard drives takes out a lot of exploration

[reef basin]

I mean that would depend on recipes and goals. Contrary to popular belief, there's not much "meta" in this game

[frosty mirage]

Yeah, but after all it can be a personal choice. I mean its an information a click away, awareness of the map doesnt imply using it

[reef basin]

should be mentioned that it's a big spoiler though

[frosty mirage]

I dont get it honestly, i prefered exploring on my own and finding my own rythm within the game

[scenic mirage]

or just not be mentioned imo 🤷‍♂️

[frosty mirage]

I guess, sure, maybe i ruined it all

[scenic mirage]

thats the spirit! ada would be happy 😄

[lament sedge]

Welp just gonna quit to desktop and pray to god that next time my conveyors have fixed because I’m well and truly floored

[frosty mirage]

Mistakes are part of a pioneers journey

[sweet light]

Indeed

[sick falcon]

what are all the default train station names from

is it just random european cities

[sweet light]

Swedish cities

[feral jay]

I've seen some Dutch ones, clearly named after train stations and not cities

[dire salmon]

i use blue crater for a turbofuel power plant is that bad

[reef basin]

do you have fun?
if yes, it's good

[unreal pilot]

Is it known that you can stick nobelisks on photomode freecam? Just figured it out with my friend today

[dire salmon]

i use drones to port over compacted coal from the (moderately) nearby coal and sulphur nodes
i also have one on the beach
idk what the name of it is

[fickle locust]

It's station names across Europe (though it starts with the Swedish ones), the full list is on this page under Station Names

[tropic sinew]

Does anyone have an outdated AppImage of the Satisfactory Mod Manager?

[quasi warren]

Im scared to start nuclear.

[fluid crow]

what could go wrong....

[quasi warren]

everything

[versed cosmos]

rocket fuel gives a ton of power and is easier than nuclear

[reef basin]

nuclear gives way more tons of power and it's fine to build

[graceful merlin]

anyone wanna help me play and learn?

[swift turret]

have you tried playing and learning

[graceful merlin]

i just wanna play with somebody else vro

[reef basin]

Generally we recommend first playthrough to be solo

[graceful merlin]

okay

[cyan leaf]

What items do I jeed to mass produce?

[fluid crow]

screws

[cyan leaf]

Ewww no im slowly phasing out of em

[frosty mirage]

Depends on what you need, but basic items should be always available (iron rods, plates, concrete, wire, cable etc), also screws but those are better implemented in the factories for the other items that need it directly

[barren tulip]

concrete

[fluid crow]

screws and concrete

[reef basin]

Why tho

[cyan leaf]

Cause any recipe with screws are expensive

[crude canyon]

Screws are over hated

[fickle locust]

Depends what phase you're in and how you're structuring your save. Generally all you need to mass produce are the things you're going to need as building supplies later

So concrete is a classic thing you want a good factory for. I find motors are always in short supply unless you make an effort to produce them. Modular frames, same deal

[cyan leaf]

Im in phase and just finished a large steel production

4-

[crude canyon]

Concrete is weird.
You can argue every base should have a basic concrete setup, or that it's really only needed for eic

[crude canyon]

It's just a bad question

I could say that modular frames need to be mass produced.
But does that mean you should make 50? Or 200?

[cyan leaf]

😭

[crude canyon]

And I could say every item should be mass produced

But there's only so many nobelisks you'll need

So it's more of a "depends on the demand" thing

And demand keeps changing

Early on, mass production of rips can mean 2 or 3 assemblers.
While later on it means 20

[delicate sage]

Does anyone happen to have a list of the items in the game that are storable (around 178) in alphabetical order? Not done enough to have them in smart splitter list but want to account for them in sushi belt warehouse

[fickle locust]

The defining feature of Phase 4 is building a large Aluminum plant, and setting up advanced components (supercomputers, turbo motors, heavy modular frames)

[crude canyon]

Btw
Mass produce RCUs

Make 30 per min

[cyan leaf]

Yeah thay why im asking what to mass produce cause hmother then the heavy frames i haven't started the others so idk what components to make large quantity of

[crude canyon]

Well, whatever amounts you decide to make.
You'll always need to make more later

[coarse rivet]

Alternate recipes are awesome cause wdym I can make supercomputers ENTIRELY out of caterium and crude oil

[crude canyon]

And then there's the crystal motors
Adding crystal oscillators to reduce the demand of the normal stuff

[fickle locust]

Do you have a specific goal for the endgame in mind, or are you just wanting to build a factory now and use that for completion even if the ratios don't end up being right

[crude canyon]

Shoutout to steel rods, absolutely underrated

[coarse rivet]

is it bad that im at Phase 5 and dont have a crystal oscillator factory

[fickle locust]

Like if you make 20 computers, are you going to divvy those out among your endgame processes?

[fickle locust]

Crystal oscillators are honestly so annoying. I kind of try to avoid them

[crude canyon]

Yes.
The RCUs demand more sacrifices

And the others demand more RCUs

[coarse rivet]

im cooked

[crude canyon]

Ikr

[cyan leaf]

Whays rcu?

[versed cosmos]

radio control unit

[cyan leaf]

Really to get to pahse 5 😭

[crude canyon]

They're honestly not that hard.

A bit of crystal, rips, and cable can be done from anything

[versed cosmos]

also yes crystal oscillators SUCK

[cyan leaf]

Do u need alot of rcu made?

[versed cosmos]

there are only a handful of quartz nodes on the map and NONE of them are in good spots

or clusters of quartz nodes

[coarse rivet]

#screenshots message I spent most of my playthrough on this lol (At least I have ~214GW of power)

[crude canyon]

When you need to make turbo motors but you keep procrastinating

[fickle locust]

Well to get to phase 5 you can look at the space elevator requirements. Modular Engines, Turbo Motors, Cooling Systems, Fused Modular Frames, Electromagnetic Control Rods, Versatile Frameworks, Adaptive Control Units, Supercomputers, Copper Powder

[crude canyon]

Turbo motors made me give up on the game for a while

[coarse rivet]

i posted another pic of the rocket fuel factory

after realizing how bad the angle was on the first one lol

[fickle locust]

Oh did you put the Alien Augmenters on top of the towers?

That's fun

[coarse rivet]

yeah i didnt know where else to put em

the rocket fuel factory is still missing a residual plastic/fabric/rubber section on the left, a proper train station on the right, and a power control room

2520 rocket fuel is designated to 252 (240% overclocked) fuel generators, while 480 of it is packaged up and exported

[crude canyon]

I'm kinda jealous of people who can work with enough detail to make a control room

[pastel dawn]

Just get used to using beams

[versed cosmos]

residual plastic/rubber/fabric?

[coarse rivet]

well what i did was separate my train tracks into two power grids

[versed cosmos]

just send polymer resin to the sink bro

[coarse rivet]

its doing that rn

[crude canyon]

You can justify the fabric for the gas filters at least

[coarse rivet]

but i have some extra water so i might as well

yeah i need those

[versed cosmos]

tbh i just buy from the awesome shop

v wasteful ik

[crude canyon]

I buy ionized fuel from the shop.

I'm not even phase 5 yet

[white dawn]

Eh, if you don't care about getting the trophies from the shop you eventually run out of stuff to buy anyway

[coarse rivet]

well i need them for the iodine filters

[white dawn]

It's only wasteful if you think you want to go for all those trophies. :)

[versed cosmos]

u can buy iodine filters too

[coarse rivet]

oh

[versed cosmos]

im gonna get the trophies eventually