satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

thats not what a stupid person do, thats like.. most people kek

[devout river]

its very much 'learn by doing'

we've all been there

[wispy osprey]

At some point I decided to stop deconstructing

[golden nexus]

i do have a spare 20/min CO not being used, was thinking super poss for points

[placid stirrup]

It's a nice strategy to build several, dedicated factories near the resources instead of expanding one central, large one.

[zenith shard]

but then im like chasing resources all the time

do I build a truck??

[near siren]

im not claiming someone elses work is my own lol im only asking to see what people have come up with and if there is a way to download them if i like them? not sure where you got the impression i was going to claim someone elses work as my own lmao

[devout river]

trucks can help, building factories near resources helps

[zenith shard]

or should I just hyperloop it?

[wispy osprey]

Other than that, min-maxing 1 or all items or min-max power without turning your pc into an oven is a decent endgame

[golden nexus]

5000/min vert framework

[wispy osprey]

Creating the absolute maximum of everything would have too much RAM use

[near siren]

is there a way to set the amount of stacks a train carriage loads?

[wispy osprey]

No, always 32

[devout river]

nope

trains can limit WHAT they load, but not how much

[golden nexus]

just gotta let them backfill / overflow

[near pulsar]

Sup

[wispy osprey]

I guess if you have a less per minute input that takes longer to fill than a full trip then that's technically a controlled throughput

I think most people don't want less of something

[proper lintel]

Is there something similar to the satisfactory modeler but for mobile?

[hollow bay]

how does everyone know what style to make their building? like I wanna build a rocket fuel factory + building now but I don't know what to make it look like so then I'm most likely just gonna build everything on concrete foundations. heck I don't even really know where to build what on the inside

[paper summit]

what alternative can i use for fuel?

[quick barn]

For what?

[paper summit]

energy

[golden nexus]

the factory for RF is really just 8 blenders or so?

[quick barn]

In the biomass burners?

Leaves, wood, biomass, solid biomass, etc.

[hollow bay]

not really 8 blenders

[quick barn]

In the fuel generator

Fuel, turbo fuel, rocket fuel, etc

[golden nexus]

2 banks of 8.. this is rf #screenshots message

[paper summit]

alr ty

[hollow bay]

you may be using a different setup + different recipes than me

[golden nexus]

Crude -> HOR -> Diluted Fuel -> Rocket Fuel

[hollow bay]

and how much crude gives you how much rf?

[golden nexus]

This is 300/min crude giving 1200/min RF

[hollow bay]

mine would be 195 crude/min into 780 rf/min

[golden nexus]

Why partial node?

[hollow bay]

works the best since I'm also gonna package 30rf/min for the jetpack

[near siren]

thats a shame i have 7 stations on one track it would be nice to overload the train on the first station lol

[devout river]

you could do a splitter system to push the majority of the items to the first train, then the rest to other trains if that's your goal

[near siren]

yea i could

[reef basin]

Any

[grizzled adder]

Thanks CSS for having Vulkan as an option. DX12 performance is abysmal on Linux thanks to the Nvidia driver

Why is it still experimental though? What about it is experimental?

[shrewd hatch]

Guys check out my trophies in #screenshots

[golden nexus]

Its a shame it still says "Complete phase 3" at the top right

[wheat lake]

I wonder if my factory is thinking about me too...

[shrewd hatch]

its on survival, no creative

I thought the statues looked cool

[white dawn]

Basically just that: it's not officially supported, they just put it in as an experiment, and it's not an active developer focus

I don't think their Vulkan implementation stuff has really been touched since the option was introduced

dx12's the only officially-supported renderer in the game

[grizzled adder]

Yeah I understand that. Just sucks that DX12 has so many issues with Nvidia on Linux and has had for years now I think at this point

They just don't care enough to fix it (Nvidia)

[white dawn]

I mean, to be fair to nvidia (not that I like being in a position to say that), dx12 is not supported on Linux. The only reason why we can run directx stuff at all is because of Wine.

Nvidia could be making things easier for folks working on Wine to provide those compat layers, but "dx12 has issues" isn't really a problem with the Linux driver

(And of course a lot depends on specifics; I've run plenty of dx12 games via Proton which worked just great on nvidia)

[jovial flax]

I miss windows 7

[unkempt blade]

11 has been enough of a downgrade from 10 I was going to try a linux dual boot at some point and see if/how unhappy my games are with it

[zenith sage]

Anyone else had an issue where hotbar becomes unresponsive or know how to quickly fix that? Usually it's just dismantle mode being stuck so double clicking it helps, but not this time..

[mortal ginkgo]

happened to me when I was jump landing at doing some extreme button mashing. reload only fixed it

[zenith sage]

It started happening today for the first time for me.. seems this time around opening inventory helped

Also I really should find a different approach to big factories...
#screenshots message

[queen slate]

I think it looks good

[mortal ginkgo]

this looks good but reminds me to go further z axis.

There is literally free sky..

[zenith sage]

Looks decent, but I have no clue what's what and where things go 😅

[queen slate]

.-.

Colour coding can help

Especially with piping

[zenith sage]

The fact that one of those blocks makes 5000 wires isn't helping with logistics...

I definitely should start color coding pipes

(I think there was a mod to make it automatic too)

[queen slate]

I find colour coding one of my fav parts of making factories

[mortal ginkgo]

send your wires via pipes

[queen slate]

Even more after I discovered you can filter what you colour making me miscolour less frequently

[olive badger]

is it possible to get the hard drive trophy by buying the harddrives with tickets from the shop?

[rich flint]

what dimensional depot stack upgrade does?

[mortal ginkgo]

lets you have more stacks in DD, makes them more chonkier inside, become more CHUNGUS.

[zenith sage]

I'm a big sucker for symmetry so I'd love to lean more into that, buuut different sizes and heights make it a pain

[queen slate]

Increases max storage sides

[queen slate]

What he said

[barren spire]

Y'all I'm trying to speed up time using the command menu and it's not working. I've tried slomo3, slomo[3], slomo3.0, slomo[3.0] and other variations and it's just not working. Any help would be appreciated

[heavy pine]

Just in time for the end of the event, I made a blueprint to make 1 FICSMAS star per minute, all it needs is 30 copper ore and 45 iron ore per minute.

[leaden turret]

what's the problem you're trying to solve by speeding up time?

[barren spire]

More experimentation than needing it for practical reasons. Wanna see if it works and if it does, I can get mats that I need more quickly when those mats are being used to supply the phase 3 build etc

For example, I need steel girders but they're being used to manufacture struts

And I make 100 steel girders a minute so I don't mind waiting a few minutes but if I can turn that into a few seconds then that's a tool I can really use.

[reef basin]

is that a mod or something? there are no commands in base game

(or rather none for actually modifying the game)

[barren spire]

It's a PC command menu thing. You can manipulate the game almost anyway you want with it.

[reef basin]

oh, you cannot (ingame)

[rugged jasper]

I still don't understand why you would want to speed up time in-game with that said above.

maybe I just don't get it, but it make no sense to me 🤭

[barren spire]

Again, it's so I can get the mats that I need within a matter of a few seconds to a few minutes.

[reef basin]

if you mean the base command line, then that just has some commands for graphics settings and debug

[barren spire]

I don't want to "speed run" the game. But I can see I'm starting to upset folks so, I guess forget I asked. Thanks y'all.

[ornate saffron]

Are UE5 console commands blocked. Ive never tried just curious and I'm not able to check

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not upset, though I suggest OWing and slooping it?

[reef basin]

most commands are dev-builds only. Just the autocomplete lists them, but they do not function

[ornate saffron]

Thank you

[mortal ginkgo]

console itself is not meant to work in "release build", thats an UE thing. Whats allowed is well, what devs allow.

[barren spire]

Mmm I considered it, but manipulating game files outside of the game clients actual parameters never works out well for me because I don't understand code. I barely got fallout 3 working on a windows 11 machine lol and even then, I needed a tech guy on FaceTime to walk me through it

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean.. what I suggested is not about game files o_O

[barren spire]

Well see there ya go.

Lol I know - this much haha

[reef basin]

there's no ingame option to speed up the game at all 🙂

[barren spire]

Alright. I believe you

Thank you!

[mortal ginkgo]

No Power Cost + A lot of OW + Slooping = 5x gamespeed 😛

AGS

[ornate saffron]

May i suggest the modding discord? You can find a link in #welcome

[rugged jasper]

[low kiln]

yo

[barren spire]

Geez. Well I can see how that would be greatly advantageous. If I didn't need to worry about power I'd be further than phase 3 I believe by now lol I think I'm at 50 hours now and have the initial area plus the space elevator built up to where I cant possibly craft anything more.

I've got an oil and coal sector, just built a caterium mine and fixing to build a rail system to transport oil, plastic, rubber and caterium to me.

[leaden turret]

advanced game settings > give items, problem solved

[low kiln]

how many smart plates a sec do i want for ending phase 2?

[green fiber]

More than phase 1

[leaden turret]

however many you need divided by however long you wanna wait.

or something.

basic math question.

[low kiln]

yea ik about that im just asking about what would you think

[barren spire]

Ahhhhhhhhh maybe that's it.....I did go thru those settings and the only thing I changed was the hostility of the creatures. I changed it to provocation lol

[barren spire]

Yes

[low kiln]

yes<3

[zenith sage]

I'm 120h in and still in phase 3

[low kiln]

30h in still phase 2

[golden nexus]

Well its 1000 required so 1000/20 = 50 minutes. Does this work?

[low kiln]

yea

i have 27

[barren spire]

Damn! I leave the game running when I'm not tending to anything just waiting for mats to do their thing. So that's the majority of the play time.

[golden nexus]

then it will take 1000/27

[low kiln]

im lowkey gonna destroy it

beacuse it looks like shi

it needs to be aesthetic

[golden nexus]

how my smart plat looks like 😛 #screenshots message

[barren spire]

I thought about tearing down the initial area and rebuilding it to be more...organized? But then I said to hell with it. It works, and I already know where everything is so I'm leaving it alone lmao

I'll show you

[zenith sage]

Wait till phase 3, you'll need to rebuild it or build a new one anyway hah

[low kiln]

no i have some kind of autism/ocd that if i see somthing thats not aesthetic it frustrates me

[leaden turret]

pave it over and build on top

[low kiln]

shoebox<3

[golden nexus]

quick put a box aorund it

[low kiln]

i ❤️ freaks

[barren spire]

Oh boy ^

[low kiln]

nah hell nah

my gf is on valo rn

she types those things

she kinda cracked

she boosts me

shes immo 2

im silver 2

[white dawn]

This sounds like a better conversation for #off-topic-general

[low kiln]

i bet ur fun at parties

[mortal ginkgo]

he is, can confirm.

#off-topic-general it is though.

[low kiln]

yea ik why are u so mean im gonna snitch on you on my mom that ur bullying me

[mortal ginkgo]

guys, this is what happens when you don't tap on Impure Limestone Nodes.

[golden nexus]

Your mom says to go to #off-topic-general

[low kiln]

impure limestone node is hunting me even here

[low kiln]

snitch

what is behind the (ada thingy) glitching?

[ornate saffron]

I normal limestone node gets tapped

[barren spire]

I've already got an idea behind "the entity"

[mortal ginkgo]

I CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS HERETIC ACT

[reef basin]

asking here is basically equal to asking a random number generator

don't validate your ideas here, do what you find fun 🙂 it's a sandbox and there are not really any wrong decisions

[mortal ginkgo]

I wonder when some alt recipes are useful and good decisions. Like Copper Rotor.

[reef basin]

all alt recipes are a tradeoff

and copper rotors are most weighted resource efficient rotors

[mortal ginkgo]

You could say that.. Copper Rotor gives almost 3x ammount for using copper and double screws...

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah I get it, they are just not commonly used or discussed.

[golden nexus]

i guess it needs pure copper + steamed sheets?

[reef basin]

because people see steel rotor needing same resources and go "hurr hurr that must be good" without thinking, then they pay tons of resources and there's not really any decrease in complexity vs other chains

[reef basin]

yeah with those it's basically "water rotor" rather than "copper rotor"

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, if you are not going to min max ultra late game, you can make a fair amount of rotors with few assemblers

with that recipe, stilll the "Steeled Frame" wins by an ultra large margin etc

[golden nexus]

steel rotor gets done often because it mixes well with stator to get motors at a decent rate mid game

[reef basin]

well "mixes well" is just "uses same resources", but it doesn't really reduce complexity much imo

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say "it mixes REALLY well". 😛

[barren spire]

It allowed me to reduce the amount of machines I have because of that recipe.
Similar to the screws recipe. Instead of mining ore to get ingots to get rods to get screws; you find that hard drive with the recipe to go straight from ingots to screws. Increases output from 5 a minute to 25 a minute.

[strong fiber]

My wifi is out

like bruh

[reef basin]

the reduction is basically the same as what copper rotor gives
(and not many people care about number of machines anyway)

and as for the screw recipe, it doesn't increase resource efficiency at all unfortunately

[strong fiber]

Just tryna finish this nuclear plant

[queen slate]

There should be a mod where you can sloop impure limestone nodes specifically

[mortal ginkgo]

I get where you are coming from but, we are great as it is.

It is player's mistake / hubris / failure / silly gooberness to not tap on us.

[queen slate]

That is true

[queen slate]

You can’t have better than perfect

[mortal ginkgo]

Correct. We provide 30/min. No more no less. We are honest. We no goobin'. We no silly'in.

[queen slate]

Should we only tap ye with m1 miners

Obviously a miner is better than none but do you have a specific preference

[strong fiber]

What if i overclock the miner

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes. That's the correct way to play.

[queen slate]

Or underclock?

[mortal ginkgo]

If you are needing to overclock impure limestone nodes, that means your factory is wrong.

You need to make your factories designed around the idea of 30/min AMAZING limestone that we provide.

Or else you need to restart.

Yes.

[ornate saffron]

.....

My entire concrete supply is one overworked impure limestone node

[ornate saffron]

Being tapped like a Friday payday

[queen slate]

He such a hard worker he doesn’t need vacation days

[ornate saffron]

Treated like a American worker

[queen slate]

Fr but better because he/she never complains

That reminds me are all impure limestone nodes male female or a extra super intelligent gender?

[mortal ginkgo]

at least pour some water on the poor guy to calm it down a bit!

[queen slate]

Or mixed

[zealous urchin]

its a rock

[ornate saffron]

That is true but when I move it through the mountain its trans mountain

[leaden turret]

previous CM made it canon that everything but the nut is female

[zealous urchin]

however according to deepak chopa rocks have consciousness too 🤓

[queen slate]

Ah ok ty

[queen slate]

I just wanna make sure I’m using the right pronouns impure limestone nodes (god) forbid I misgender them

[fervent dust]

friends, just to make sure, what does the overflow option in the smart splitter do exactly?

[queen slate]

When the other belts are all full then the overflow one will be used

Handy for sinking overflow items

[zealous urchin]

overflow - only excess

[fervent dust]

oh then i'm doing it correctly, thank you :3

[strong fiber]

But i use wet concrete

[barren spire]

I tapped 2 impure limestone nodes at 250% overclock on both of them. I have all the concrete

[barren spire]

When I finally unlock that one, then I'll probably need to rework my entire initial factory. I setup containers after each resource to capture overflow once the outflow belt is full.

[reef basin]

I'd personally not touch existing factories, just build new ones

[polar leaf]

Man I can stop playing this game for 6 months and I'll still find the same people active here lol

[uneven path]

I have all the Phase 4 Space Elevator parts automated for the first time ever! 1.5/min ASD, 2/min MFG, 1/min TPR, and 2/min NP 😄

[lime kraken]

are there any smal controllable lights? or only the 150qm ones?

[near nacelle]

whats the difference between screws and alternate cast screws, trying to automate screws

[strong fiber]

Cast screw requires less production steps

[uneven path]

Cast screws are Iron Ingots -> Screws, normal recipe is Iron Ingots -> Rods -> Screws

[strong fiber]

So you can make more screws for less power and machines

[near nacelle]

if a recipe calls for screws can you use cast screws

[strong fiber]

Yes

Alternate recipes are just a different way to make the same item

You will never actually make cast screws

[near nacelle]

trying to automate in the sky in then move those screws to different map ares

[covert quarry]

does steel ingot itself have a use or is it just used to produce pipes and beams?

[near nacelle]

sounds like its better to make cast screws?

[fickle locust]

The only product that's confusing in this regard is coal vs. petroleum coke. I find the pictures look the same so I've accidentally made foundries for petroleum when I wanted regular

[near nacelle]

you need them to make pipes and beams and then that will make other products later on

[worldly badger]

Guys is there any posibility to make train load on station A 2 freight, unload only one at station B then second on station C? If all of them got 2 pickup points?

[fickle locust]

Also can be used for canisters, iron plates, and rods

[white dawn]

FYI, that's a generally bad idea, for screws (and other high-volume items like wire+quickwire) more so than anything else

That's the kind of setup which leads people to develop a deep hatred of screws. :)

Make screws exactly where they're needed, at exactly the quantities they're needed

Don't try to centralize them and shuffle them all over the place; you're just creating a million headaches for yourselves by doing that. :)

(I would in general advise the same for any resource, honestly, not just high-volume items like screws. But high-volume items like screws are extra resistant to those kinds of setups)

[near nacelle]

ok thanks for the advice

[scenic mirage]

how do i know how many drones i need? i have 2 for a normal node going like 2km but its not getting everything transported

[white dawn]

Sounds like you need more than 2 for that transfer, then. :)

[worldly badger]

Any idea guys?

[scenic mirage]

yeah but how do i calculate how many to use? instead of just adding one and seeing if itll work

[zenith sage]

That's new...
#screenshots message

[white dawn]

You can do some math based on the round-trip time and the stack size of the item in question. A drone has an internal cargo capacity of 9 stacks

[scenic mirage]

its uranium for nuclear so i cant just place it and pray

[white dawn]

I honestly rarely bother mathing it out; I just eyeball it and then if I need more, I add more

Sure you can -- set up the route and see if it works (sink the stuff at the end so it doesn't get backed up)

Your logistics don't have to be used immediately. I generally get my logistics totally sorted out before even starting on the actual factory build (that goes for vehicles + trains in addition to drones)

Set up the route, make sure it's carrying the capacity you need, and then start on the factory

[scenic mirage]

i mean i have my nuclear running alr, its just running off all the backlog that built up while i was building everything

and its running low

[white dawn]

Heh, sounds like you should've checked your logistics first then. :D

So my recommendation is just to go ahead and overbuild it

With nuclear you're not gonna notice a couple extra drone ports

[zenith sage]

Okay seriously... why all my buildable splitters defaulted to lift mode...?

[white dawn]

Slap in some extra ports+drones and load-balance the uranium across 'em

As I say, you can math it out; the key values are the round-trip time and the stack size of your item (based on a 9-stack capacity on the drone itself)

I think that the drone port's "stacks per min" or whatever number is probably accurate, so once the drone's made a couple of trips, you may be able to trust that number

But for now just throw a few more ports at the problem

[hazy void]

can drones used packaged rocket fuel?

[scenic mirage]

its already built tho

like its up and running

[zenith sage]

Huh... encountered my first issue with building pillars with 4 machines each vertically... I can't split 5 pillar into 2 input belts

Nvm, figured out the solution

[white dawn]

Right, but you're saying it doesn't currently support the throughput you need. So build out some more

Slap down some more ports, load-balance the uranium between 'em.

If you've got the breathing room, as I say, you can do the math to find out exactly how many ports/drones you need. You know the uranium stack size, you know that drones can carry 9 stacks, and you should have the round-trip times available for the existing drone routes

But if you don't feel like doing that and just want a quick band-aid, slapping down a few more drone ports would do the trick

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461433929138569296
I need to figure out a good dump for the excess piped Nitro, but otherwise this is kind of nice.

[fickle locust]

It's very organized spaghetti
I like all the colors going across each other, like a modern art piece

[polar leaf]

@whole drum https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1461433928819675391/image.png?ex=696a89e8&is=69693868&hm=e22c2ea64d9eb6b42cbd6fadee47017ef0eb03923ad18398315f29f3ed047799& Thats because theres no clipping 😭

[fickle locust]

I don't know if it's complimentary to say your factory belongs in a museum but I do mean it in a nice way 😛

[whole drum]

Yeah, not as organized as a circuit board, but kind of reminiscent of one

[golden nexus]

well no, every tie something cross the cost of adding a layer goes up massivly

[whole drum]

Indeed, but since this doesn't need more layers than it has, it kind of works

[zenith sage]

I feel like an ant 👀
#screenshots message

[golden nexus]

this incase beam factory is getting out of hand, just need to source 900/concrete

[whole drum]

I've been putting much more effort into color coding and decorating my factories this time around

They don't all have full structures yet, but some do

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461436150551154751

[dusk light]

anyone ever leave the game for a month come back and end out lost af?

[jovial flax]

I don’t know what any of that means but cool, if it doesn’t work I know there are debating programs that delete and blacklist a lot of the unnecessary clutter

[whole drum]

I just start new saves when I take those breaks, lol

[dusk light]

i think i shoulda but i also wanna beat this save with the 200+ hrs ive put into it

[tardy onyx]

yall what is the best hmf recipe

[dusk light]

flex i ithink

[tardy onyx]

alr

[jovial flax]

@sacred trail you should become a nuclear arms manufacturer with all that extra power

[sacred trail]

Is this a joke or there's nukes you can build?

[jovial flax]

Nuclear Nobelisk

[dusk light]

youve access to nukes kinda

[sacred trail]

It's just for the lulz or there's some point to it?

[jovial flax]

The lulz, but the nukes are really useful at clearing out large patches of foliage

The nuke nobelisk is under the caterium tree in the MAM

[whole drum]

Sulfur

[frail sleet]

save and load

[paper summit]

if i rebuild the space elavator does it keep the process?

[white dawn]

Yes, you can move it around all you like without losing progress

[lapis shadow]

The only thing that mergers/splitters can snap straight onto (and function immediately) are conveyors/lifts right? There's no way to snap them straight onto the input/output ports of anything?

[white dawn]

I believe you can snap them to the end of regular conveyor belts too, but otherwise correct

[zenith sage]

Not without a mod

(But it's honestly less useful then you might think...)

[lusty ferry]

Is it normal to put 80 hours into this game over 3 weeks? Lol

[zenith sage]

Nope, it's not enough

[golden nexus]

Yes

[zenith sage]

When did I start the game again... oh right, 2 and half weeks and 140h I should stop and look for a job

[golden nexus]

you already have one

[polar leaf]

I saw some people getting 200 hours within the first 3 weeks of 1.0

crazy stuff

I wonder if the current playerbase is mostly people pre 1.0 or post it

[lusty ferry]

Ive so far built a huge tower around the space elevator. Everything on the map is funneled into it.

[zenith sage]

As someone who hasn't even heard about this game pre 1.0, I'm guessing the latter

[glass pagoda]

Im post but I think most people were pre 1.0

[lusty ferry]

I only started less than a month ago but my word is it addictive

The game really caters to my OCD.

[glass pagoda]

I dont think ill need too much power for my aluminum ingot factory but now that im typing it out I realize the trains will cost a bit as I need to transfer the quartz and coal to the bauxite as well as run a couple water gens and refineries but at least my silica manifold won't cost me much power

😛

Cant wait to get that done

What are yall working on?

[glass pagoda]

Nice. How have you been doing with your factory

[near nacelle]

does anyone know if there is a automated checklist someone has made that i can use?

[queen slate]

Wow and I thought my 100 hours in 5 weeks was bad

[lusty ferry]

Currently just working throught the phases and tiers, but it looks great

[glass pagoda]

What teir

[queen slate]

If you look through the crafting bench that can help

[lusty ferry]

Phase 3 tier 6, just started with oil

[golden nexus]

this is when the complexity begins

[glass pagoda]

Doing faster than I did, Im taking it slow so I reached phase 3 300 hours in

[glass pagoda]

Id argue that teir 7 is the start of very complex

[golden nexus]

Yeah oil tend to be around hte time when things become subjective

[lusty ferry]

Im trying to funnel everything into a massive tower. It has 20 x 20 floors, currently on 5 floors. Oh, and 4 wings

[glass pagoda]

Im talking bout aluminum production

[golden nexus]

Yeah Its really the start of a new group

[glass pagoda]

Although it would say oil is the first forced look at having to make factorys large scale

Sure with other teirs you could make stuff big but oil forces you to make big factorys for good production

[golden nexus]

Yeah its when you find out you should have done more motor 🙂

[glass pagoda]

The game introduces things in a very nice way where when you first start off you are handcrafting things and when you have to produce copper sheets you use a constructer and then go eh why not let's automate things after a while you realize plains isint the best place for a bace and after a couple saves you find your perfect place to stay

[golden nexus]

Dunno gass fields works out well for me lol

[glass pagoda]

Works well for most

[devout wharf]

I'm trying to join a buddy of mine via session ID but when he clicks on show session ID it is completely blank?

I have another world that was started post 1.1 update that has a valid session ID so I'm not sure why its not creating one.

I also created a new save on my end and have ran into the same issue.

Anything helps, Thanks.

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461453259549184116

[glass pagoda]

The game gives you the option not to do certain things like automate some parts but after a while you realize how ineffective it is not to automate

[vagrant adder]

Hello, I bought satisfactory today. Every time I open it it lasts 0 to 30 seconds before crashing. I have tries -dx11 and -vulacan, re installed, I’ve tried everything I saw anywhere even what chat got told me, nothing works, what should I do.

[glass pagoda]

What's your gpu

[vagrant adder]

Nvidia

[glass pagoda]

Hm

[vagrant adder]

I’ve heard about something that mentions I Nvidia, I don’t know what I should do though

[golden nexus]

change drivers to latest etc...

[vagrant adder]

Yeah I’ve tried that

[golden nexus]

what model of card is it?

[whole drum]

That's a brand, not a model. It's like someone saying they drive a Ford, but you don't know if they mean a Model T from the 1930s or a 2026 Mustang.

[vagrant adder]

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080

[whole drum]

Okay, that card is more than capable for this game. What CPU do you have, and how much RAM?

[echo zinc]

#screenshots message time to clear everything and rebvuild.. this is starting to become chaos

[hollow bay]

we all love dimensional depots not being fast enough right?

[reef basin]

just build more

[echo zinc]

im running around lookin for the spheres rn 😂

[reef basin]

I'd just build new and keep old tbh

[echo zinc]

mhh newww

[hollow bay]

I'm gonna rebuild as well once I've finished this fuel power plant

[echo zinc]

time to find a new spot

[whole drum]

Not sure what is "chaos" about that, but you are very, very far from a point where rebuilding would do you more good than harm.

[golden nexus]

whats stack trace from crash report look like?

[echo zinc]

im at a point wqhere i genuinly have zero idea whats going on rn

[vagrant adder]

32GB of ram and an Intel(R) Core i7-10700KF CPU

[whole drum]

Just keep expanding and automating every new part you can; keep progressing the space elevator and milestones.

[whole drum]

Your specs are definitly not at issue.

[obsidian quail]

Probably a good time to remove nvidia drivers and install fresh, latest drivers.

[whole drum]

Could be a driver problem

[echo zinc]

mhh time to find more coal nodes i need more steel 💀

[vagrant adder]

Right, how do I do that

[whole drum]

Could be an OS problem too, if you're still on Win11 trash

[echo zinc]

you mean winai?

[obsidian quail]

aside from the spying and telemetry crap, it's really not that bad and actually quite stable(I type this from fedora).

[whole drum]

I know. The spying and telemetry are why I switched to Linux, but I'm mostly jesting here.

[jovial flax]

No the nuclear nobelisk is in the caterium tree. Far left in the four choices

[vagrant adder]

Ok so what can a change with the game to get it to work?

[obsidian quail]

DDU is great. (Use the guru3d build)
Download this, then go to nvidia and download the latest version of their driver.
Run DDU, let it reboot, windows will look weird for a bit. install nvidia drivers, reboot, try again.

[golden nexus]

whats crash report look like?

[versed cosmos]

isnt nuclear nobelisk in sulfur tree???

[vagrant adder]

I’ll send a photo give me a sec

[golden nexus]

yes it is

[obsidian quail]

"have you tried copilot" no, MS, piss off and leave me alone.

[golden nexus]

in #screenshots

[vagrant adder]

Yeah

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461455879567184031
It's really not.

[echo zinc]

i just learned what zoop waS

[vagrant adder]

I’ve sent it

[polar leaf]

Honestly I think most of pre 1.0 people came from Lets Game It Out like me

[onyx condor]

I'm frustrated ...😠 I'm trying to get to a Bauxite area, but I'm "blocked" by two big beasts. I shoot, slash, explode them ... but they get me every time. At this point, I have to give up. OK, I'm not a "shooter" type person, I'm a builder, my reflexes mousecontrol isn't that great. As it stands I'm about to give up.

[whole drum]

When placing objects, press H for the hologram, then you can use arrow keys to "nudge" things. Useful if the snap-to isn't cooperating.

[onyx condor]

Unless there is a hint on how to approach / elliminate them

[polar leaf]

The quantity of QOL updates we got is insane

there was a time where zooping wasnt even a thing

[versed cosmos]

Passive mode

[whole drum]

Go to Options and set the animals to passive

[golden nexus]

this is in menus or after?

[onyx condor]

Thx.

[vagrant adder]

I Open the game, it always either crashes on the loading screen, the menu or 10 seconds into any gameplay

[whole drum]

You can also hold Ctrl while placing things to get them to align with other things more easily (usually).

[polar leaf]

If you dont want to cheat using passive mode something I like doing is cage blueprints

specially since you said you like building

you can just make a cage and place the blueprint on top of the monster

[whole drum]

It's not considered a "cheat" by the game since it's a general option, not part of Advanced Settings.

[onyx condor]

@polar leaf Yeah, a nice trick. Thx

[whole drum]

It doesn't affect achievements.

[jovial flax]

Ah, I misremembered then. I knew it was far left on the set of but I thought it was caterium

[polar leaf]

I mean it totally defeats the point of weapons

But I can see your point

[obsidian quail]

realllly... that is tempting.

[whole drum]

All the explosives, ammo, and alternate fuel stuff is Sulfur.

[vagrant adder]

Any idea?

[golden nexus]

the suggestion for that is shader cache corruption of the direct x version. You should probably resotre the default directx version / remove command line params and then deleted the shader cache then start it

[whole drum]

I agree, to a point--and that point is where someone is so frustrated that they would rather give up than deal with the animals. Passive mode is for them and accessibility purposes.

[golden nexus]

please to delete anything in %LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\ which is upipelinecache

[onyx condor]

Can these "boss"-like creatures be killed at all? (I recall in an earlier game I had this nuclear jumping spider - shelved the game for 12 months)

[vagrant adder]

On it

[polar leaf]

LOL

[whole drum]

All enemies can be killed

[golden nexus]

yeah it takes about 2 seconds 😛

[onyx condor]

OK, no more hints, thanks, got enough to carry on

[golden nexus]

us a bigger stick 😉

[fluid crow]

just kite the hogs into a poison cloud

[vagrant adder]

So what should I delete? I have cache, config, crashes, logs, and save games

[polar leaf]

Or shoot them until their lungs flood with blood and die

[golden nexus]

anything cache, you can nuke config as well which will restore defaults

[vagrant adder]

Should I restart the of afterwards?

[golden nexus]

nope not needed

[fluid crow]

gas mask and jet pack are two of the best weapons

[vagrant adder]

Should I now try to run the game with -dx11 or no?

[golden nexus]

No, You should also have something int here called FactoryGame_PCD3D_SM6.upipelinecache nuke this as well

[young rivet]

Reminder everybody to donate blood & plasma!

Donating blood n plasma is very important for people need a transfusion for one reason or another. Your donation can save a life.

Please donate blood/plasma at your local clinic. Thank you!

[vagrant adder]

Where’s that again?

[echo zinc]

the government is going to clone me

[golden nexus]

%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\

[vagrant adder]

Thanks

[golden nexus]

excellent the you can enroll twice in the save the day program

[vagrant adder]

I can’t find it

[obsidian quail]

is there a reason you're using flags on the launcher at all?

[golden nexus]

Then its probably already been deleted

[vagrant adder]

Ok thanks

[vagrant adder]

I’m trying to get it to work and some people say it fixes it

[topaz maple]

is it more oil efficient to make a fuel factory with alternate recopies for packaged fuel or build a turbo fuel factory?

[obsidian quail]

There's no reason it shouldn't run bone stock on your system. Just focus on that, Mistralol is leading you down a good path.

[vagrant adder]

Thank you

Yip, crashed nearly instantly

[fluid crow]

depends what you mean by efficient

[topaz maple]

energy generated per oil

[vagrant adder]

Should I send the crash message, I think it’s different

[golden nexus]

repost it to #screenshots

[vagrant adder]

Ok posted

[fluid crow]

then yes, but is more work to setup.

[topaz maple]

is that yes to turbo fule or the packaged fuel?

[ornate saffron]

Heavy oil residue alternate and packaged fuel alternate can get great output. I think im at 40gw for 300oil. Monster setup though

[golden nexus]

don't know, the infor there isn't giving me much to go on

[vagrant adder]

Alright, sorry to bother you, it’s my luck, anytime I get something I’ve wanted it won’t work no matter what

[obsidian quail]

If you can do the driver uninstall/reinstall, youtube has some DDU tutorials.
Try that, or talk to a techie friend and get your PC looked at?

are other games running just fine?

[fluid crow]

did you try launching with dx11

[golden nexus]

Its probabl ysome more obscure setting on the computer which has been turned on / off in the nvidia contorl panel or something

[fluid crow]

be a good test to see if the dx12 shaders are messed up

[vagrant adder]

How do I do that

[fluid crow]

Probably -dx11 or change it in the settings file

[vagrant adder]

Yeah I tried dx11 to no avail

[jovial beacon]

Oh my gosh those ones are so annoying

[fluid crow]

not sure if the arg works for this game

[cunning glade]

How does modeler work

Or whatever it's called cuz like I don't quite understand it

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=1ZOk08HSD5tif0ELXODg

But I wanna transfer that too it so I can get rid of the nonsense

Plus oc the machines preferably

[ornate saffron]

They can! Early game if you are struggling avoid them or after you unlock a ranged weapon float a foundations and cheese them

[cunning glade]

They all can be killed quite easily

Bombs are nice

[scenic mirage]

Version: 463028, IsEditor: No, IsPerforceBuild: No, BuildConfiguration: Shipping, Launcher: Steam, NetMode: Standalone, IsUsingMods: Yes, IsSaveGameEdited: No

GPU Crash dump Triggered

yoo i crashed my game going to my nuclear plant 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

whats your GPU?

[true mulch]

IsUsingMods: Yes

[scenic mirage]

rtx 3090 founders edition 💀

[mortal ginkgo]

and oh no, using mods, no no no n on on on on on ono nono no noonnoonnono

[scenic mirage]

its literally only infinite zoop 😭

[true mulch]

make a #1038092680493801533 post with the entire crash reporter output

[mortal ginkgo]

OH DEAR LORD HAVE MERCY ON THY SOUL POOR LITTLE FELLA (I dunno if its a bad mod)

but yeah, all crash log is needed

[scenic mirage]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1461464600796074197

[topaz maple]

is a packaged fuel / rocket fuel / turbo fuel for power?

[true mulch]

you can use them as jetpack or vehicle fuel

unpackaged for power generation

[vague ruin]

im making 120 rods per minute, i want the rods to be split up to make screws for RIPS and Rotors and also want some rods to stay as rods to be used for rotors and modular frames, what do you guys recommend to split it up for screws/just rods

[ornate saffron]

Eahch fuel type give you the same power but have diffrent burn rates in a generator. For example fuel burns at 20min while rock fuel burns at 4. Something a min

[ornate saffron]

What ever you need. Figure how many of the end result part needs a minute and make enough screws to satisfy the need

[vague ruin]

im early game right now so those are the end results 😭

[ornate saffron]

Generally speaking it is easiest to figure what you want to produce then work out what you need rather then making with what you have. The map is huge and there is many nodes.

[scenic mirage]

make the rods you need where you make the RIPs and make some rods where you make rotors

[echo zinc]

#screenshots message we mining now

bout to make more factroys

[fluid crow]

I am setup just west of there

[echo zinc]

as i learned more of the game im starting to build more smart

[golden nexus]

in what way?

[echo zinc]

not putting shit randomly

[ornate saffron]

Awwww shucks. How you supposed to manage chaos if ther is no chaos

[echo zinc]

i wanna redo my power too but im tooo lazy for that 💀

[hidden sparrow]

do ya like mah factor ❤️ 💅 #screenshots message

someone tried to reply to me in #screenshots without an image LMAO

[ornate saffron]

This is what im talking about

[grizzled lotus]

I don't know if I've built a high speed connector factory or not. Is there a way to find out using scim?

[grizzled lotus]

this gives me a good mix of anxiety and heeby jeebies

[echo zinc]

mhh ima be smeling 360 iron pm 💀

i love me some satifactroy tools

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message deadlocked trucks

[strange sphinx]

Is ther a good way to supply my drone ports with batteries? Like can I have a drone from where I make batteries go and drop a stack in every port or something like that?

[vague jetty]

How do I get a vehicle out of the void

[grizzled lotus]

it's not very easy, but you can have one drone supply fuel/batteries to a bunch of ports.

For example, have your factory connected to your port (it will feed both the storage input and the fuel input via a splitter)

then have that drone travel to a destination port where there are multiple ports. the output of the destination port will use a splitter to feed the fuel input of all those ports.

if you want, you can make another "fuel drone port" there so that it can carry excess fuel to another group of drones/ports

[fluid crow]

now I understand what spaghetti means

[grizzled lotus]

the dark souls of spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

Naw thats moldy

[ornate saffron]

I use a spreadsheet sheet/pen and paper to keep track of projects.

[ornate saffron]

In theory you can upload your save to scim and highlight buildying and see what they are producing

[grizzled lotus]

we talked about drone logistics before, and I thought I had to make one fuel drone for every normal drone, but this cuts it down by a lot.

[barren spire]

Good to know!
Also I just started building the rails and found out I can drive the train while I'm building....but I get to drive the train...MY end game will be driving that train!

[fluid crow]

choo choo

[fickle locust]

Back in the old days™ I would expand by building train cars full of steel beam, steel pipe, and concrete, then driving them forward until the end of the rail line. I'd set up a bridgehead there, build my rail into the distance, build another bridgehead, etc.

It made me feel like a pioneer slowly expanding my horizons

[zenith sage]

You can see all the production/usage per minute in one of the tabs

[fluid crow]

best part about train is hover pack 😼

[barren spire]

That's what I'm doing!!!! Choo choo mudda fucka!!!

[lapis shadow]

So machines have like the little uptime stat next to the stopwatch symbol and I was just wondering over what time period does it calculate that uptime value? If it's like the throughput detector wherein it only needs 60 seconds of data then I feel like it wouldn't be very reliable because some assembly lines only stutter every few minutes rather than more frequently so it could read 100% uptime one minute and 75% the next yk 🤷‍♂️

feel like it would need to collect at least 10 minutes of data to be more reliably indiciative of the true uptime

[sullen gull]

I have heard from 5 to 10 minutes for "accurate" calculations. Which I assume is due to instances where fluids may be "ok" after prefilling, but get worse over time due to incorrect plumbing.

[grim estuary]

What's the max radius the radar tower reaches out to

[sullen gull]

1KM

[grim estuary]

Oh

[sullen gull]

And it's a 1km cylinder. Height has no effect.

[grim estuary]

I figured height didn't play much effect

[sullen gull]

Though, if curious, the wiki does have an image that shows "optimal" placement

To cover the entire map.

[cold copper]

are you not able to see awesome sinks in SCIM?

[sullen gull]

Erm, last I knew there was an option for it?

[ornate saffron]

you are

[cold copper]

what category is it in? i cant find it

[sullen gull]

Looking now

[ornate saffron]

none i just highjlight with my mmouse

[cold copper]

i mean't like on the right of the website, you can turn on and off certan types of buildings

[ornate saffron]

I did too. it is in no catagory

[cold copper]

then how am i supposed to see it

[ornate saffron]

have a general idea where you placed it and mouse over

[sullen gull]

They are shown/hidden by this selection: #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

hub terminal and space station

[cold copper]

oh i see

[vague timber]

Perhaps someone here has an idea how could I make stackable blueprint of any kind building. Want to have only one BP for specific building and don't want to alternate blueprints or rotate it between floors. It should be stacked and then I should manually just connect them between floors with single conveyor lift.

[ornate saffron]

but yit is not in any catagory list

[cold copper]

why there, why not in buildings somewhere

[ornate saffron]

thats something to ask the site developer

[sullen gull]

You can ask in the SCIM discord 🤷‍♂️

[cold copper]

i guess same categhory as in game, sink is in the same category as hub and space elevetor

anyways, thanks for the help

[sullen gull]

You'd build it basically as you would if not building it in the BPD

Though, personally I make single machine blueprints as I feel it allows me more freedom with using them for different factories: #screenshots message #screenshots message

[covert quarry]

why do automated vehicles keep deadlocking?

[sullen gull]

Running out of fuel?

[green fiber]

if they meet head on or at (smaller than)90° angles they deadlock

[sullen gull]

Not enough room between the routes?

[covert quarry]

thx

[unkempt blade]

the key is to use the smallest vehicles possible

no further comment

[echo zinc]

oop, im using 1023/1095mw i make 💀 time for more power!

[boreal swift]

Uhh can anyone help me?

[fresh arch]

Do lvl 2 drills also inprove output of inpure ore veins?

[boreal swift]

My game keeps crashing roughly every 5 to 20 minutes

[ornate saffron]

awyes

[boreal swift]

And I don't know why, I've tried updating drivers and turning down graphics and stuff, and it just doesn't work

[ornate saffron]

#1038092680493801533 Post there with all the info you can get. crash reports. System detials and such

[boreal swift]

Okay ty

[boreal swift]

Imagine being a furry >:3

[zenith sage]

Does it make sense to make a fluid tower (or just elevate) if refineries are on the same level as generators? 🤔

[echo zinc]

do it for fun

[fresh arch]

imagine

[boreal swift]

Couldn't be me x3

[fervent dust]

wait guys

isn't leaded gasoline a perfect addition to the game?

[fresh arch]

yeah true

i think the game needs more achivments related to hurting nature and killing inocent creatures

[ornate saffron]

I always Feed maching inpouts from above. Ill pump it higher make a ∩ bend then fill the next set of machines or makle a loop above the next set

[fervent dust]

nicely said

[fresh arch]

i mean i only hear 2 voice lines so far, and i kiled so many ballon girrafs and lizardcanines

[ornate saffron]

Ada tells you to ignore all environmental Concerns. I imagine all smoke is the worst

[boreal swift]

The train one is my favorite

[fervent dust]

in satisfactory, climate change is not real

[ornate saffron]

for all we know it is desired

[boreal swift]

"And due to popular demand: choo choo mother######"

[fervent dust]

ada calls you a bad human for killing the lizard doggos. don't ask me how i know

[fresh arch]

there is a train one?

ik that

[obsidian quail]

its.... not our fault they don't move out of the way fast enough

[ornate saffron]

"៉Aͣndͩ dͩuͧeͤ ᴛⷮoͦ рⷬoͦрⷬuͧlaͣrͬ dͩeͤmͫaͣndͩ: cͨhͪoͦoͦ cͨhͪoͦoͦ mͫoͦᴛⷮhͪeͤrͬ######"៉

[fervent dust]

real one

[boreal swift]

I got that one, because one was literally just chilling over my coal deposit... I didn't want to, but I had to

[fresh arch]

and its also not my fault blowing them up is so funny

[ornate saffron]

you dont need to defend puippy murder. No matter the reasoning it makes you look bad

[vague jetty]

Where do the lizard dogos go when they get out of my sight

[whole ermine]

are northern lights in the sky a christmas season thing

[boreal swift]

Gone... reduced to atoms...

[whole ermine]

or does that happen all year round

[boreal swift]

Dunno

[vague jetty]

😭

[sullen gull]

All year round as far as I recall

[whole ermine]

theyre very pretty

[nova ridge]

Omg. I could have been doubling my slugs with somersloop this whole time?!!

That’s 200 missed power shards 🙁

[obsidian quail]

i don't know what this means overall, but i keep seeing it and have stopped making shards from my slugs until i get to wherever this point is lol

[whole drum]

It's okay. You can manufacture them later.

[nova ridge]

It’s sort of too late now. I’m phase 5 and just unlocked the ability to craft it….

[unborn moss]

Once you finish the space elevator is when you can start playing the game

[sullen gull]

Reasearch Production Amplifier in the MAM

[obsidian quail]

thnx!

[sullen gull]

Under the Alien Tech tree

[nova ridge]

Isn’t that phase 1

[primal obsidian]

build the space elevator or finish all the phases?

[golden nexus]

Finish the phases

[primal obsidian]

idk nothing to do after that

i kinda just stopped playing after i beat the game

[ornate saffron]

sandbox game.... make your own goals and challenges

[primal obsidian]

i mean my goals were to make a train system and a nuclear power plant and i finished those while beating the game so i just stopped playinh

[ornate saffron]

you can be like @scenic mirage and make a ungoddly amount of Nuclear power and brick your gpu

[scenic mirage]

😭 😭

[ornate saffron]

@scenic mirage ❤️ any luck?

[scenic mirage]

Idk wtf happened

I think it was just a one off

[ornate saffron]

so you are up and running>?

[scenic mirage]

Mostly yeah, my nitric acid is being annoying

[primal obsidian]

uhh

well i kinda sorta am using every single bauxite node on the map and iirc nuclear needs some i think??

[scenic mirage]

SAM

[primal obsidian]

oh yea i went ficsonium dont have any of that either

maybe like 200/min somewhere

[scenic mirage]

Use less bauxite then

[jovial flax]

I don’t know why I decided to go for the most difficult to access SAM node, but I did

You know the pure SAM node on that giant spire near the chasm in the middle of the map?

[grizzled lotus]

when recording paths for trucks, do I have to load and unload as part of the saved path? or will the truck do it on its own?

[sullen gull]

Will do it on it's own

[grizzled lotus]

okay because I just made this really tough path when I turned on auto pilot it didn't load stuff

[sullen gull]

Just be sure to edit the pause node at the stations to alot enough time. Transfers 2 stacks/sec

[stray summit]

chicken strips

[sullen gull]

Make sure the station is also set properly (load vs unload)

[stray summit]

we should be able to mass produce chicken strips

wait yknow how you can synthesise power shards?
what if in the next update they add synthetic mercer spheres and somersloops

[delicate flower]

Um is there a bug that causes my power gens to consume 100 power? because it keep tripping breakers while im turning on my rocket fuel setup

[sullen gull]

Using the hoverpack?

[strong fiber]

Are you using the hoverpack

The hoverpack consumes 100 MW

or 0.1 GW

also if your hoverpack is tripping the breaker how short is you on power and do you not have batteries?

[strong fiber]

Maybe mercer spheres but not somersloops because it would be way too op

[sullen gull]

Some like to skate that edge! 😏

[grizzled lotus]

which tab?

[delicate flower]

@sullen gull yes

tbh completly forgot

[sullen gull]

It happens 🤷‍♂️

[strong fiber]

Jetpack will solve your problem

[delicate flower]

well now its finished i got 144k MW of powers

just finished getting it all set up 600 oil into 144k

[strong fiber]

Im working on making 300k MW rn

[delicate flower]

just using fuel?

[sullen gull]

300GW? 😛 (inb4 someone else calls you on it lol)

[strong fiber]

Nuclear

24 UFR/min

[delicate flower]

ah yeah that makes sense are you just gonna sink plut fuell rods?

[strong fiber]

Goes into 48 fully oc reactors

[zenith sage]

Statistics
#screenshots message

[strong fiber]

Yes

[delicate flower]

gonan turn them into fisc rods someday

[strong fiber]

Not this play through

[wicked nacelle]

It’s the same thing and the MW number is more useful for comparison

[strong fiber]

Im in tier 9 and have unlocked ficsonium but no

[sullen gull]

Hey, I tend to agree and personally don't care. But you KNOW there are those who do 😛

[delicate flower]

this is my first play through in 1.1 been doing it with a friend

i beat game basically before 1.0 but this is my first full playthrough of 1.0/1.1

[strong fiber]

And my aluminum factory backed up on water bro

And its my nuclear one

Like how did this even happen

[young rivet]

300 gw in statisfactory is insane 😂 mine is only 20-30 & it’s more than plenty

[sullen gull]

🤐

[strong fiber]

I make around 150 GW from rocket fuel

[sullen gull]

Lol, curently been working on a 420gw RF one myself 🙂

[delicate flower]

i wonder if you just dedicated everything into making power and nothing more how much power you think is the cap?

[strong fiber]

Dont know exact number because i forgot

[zenith sage]

Out of curiosity, was 1.0 a huge jump in the amount of content? Or was most basically polished by the end of early access? 🤔

[young rivet]

FOUR TWENTY MENTIOED 🍃💨

[sullen gull]

Something like 10TW. With augmenters

[strong fiber]

No there was lots of new content added

[young rivet]

Terrawatts is crazy

[strong fiber]

bro what you gonna power with allat

😭

[delicate flower]

aura what do you do with your Compacted coal byproduct from the rocket fuel recipe

[young rivet]

I would’ve never imagine you would need that much in this game

[sullen gull]

That's what I want to know 🤣

[sullen gull]

You don't

[kindred crater]

Will 1,900 screws per minute be adequate for a normal sized reinforced plate factory?

[strong fiber]

Im using an alternate

[sullen gull]

Are you using compacted coal for turbo fuel?

[delicate flower]

which alternate

[strong fiber]

That uses turbofuel and nitric acid

[delicate flower]

ah im using nitro rocket fuel

[strong fiber]

To make rocket guel

[sullen gull]

waves bye-bye to all the sulfur

[strong fiber]

!wikisearch rocket fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket+fuel

[delicate flower]

well im only using 1 pure 1 normal and 2 impure nodes @sullen gull

[strong fiber]

Nvm

Im using base recipe

But i am using a turbofuel alternate

!wikisearch turbofuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=turbofuel

[delicate flower]

blend?

[strong fiber]

yep

[sullen gull]

Uses more oil than needed, but can be a simpler setup

[strong fiber]

Base rocket fuel is best rocket fuel recipe

Literally takes turbofuel plus nitric acid

Also my uranium setup uses no nitric or sulfuric acid

[delicate flower]

where are you using the byproduct compacted though

[strong fiber]

Awesome sink or you can put into coal burners

Im sinking it

[delicate flower]

i was just gonna use for steel or fine black powder

[strong fiber]

Well make an overflow splitter and put it into an awesome sink if you do

[true mulch]

Resource efficiency is hugely overrated

[delicate flower]

that was the plan

[delicate flower]

which one?

[strong fiber]

My polymer resin makes fabric for gas filters

[sullen gull]

Using turbo blend in the RF chain. If using the base, you can just recycle the compacted coal back into the chain and leave it as a stand-alone power plant

[delicate flower]

but over all sulphure usage is about the same or no?

[golden nexus]

just make more sulphur?

[strong fiber]

With converters?

[sullen gull]

Least amount with Turbo blend, bit more for base, and Nitro usually uses double.

[golden nexus]

yes

[strong fiber]

balright what are we talking about

You gonna use all the sam tryna make more sulfur

[delicate flower]

is nitro a bad recipe did i just waste like 20 hours of my life

[golden nexus]

well how much you talking about?

[sullen gull]

I would tend to agree as it's not practical that one could use all the resources before their computer has a stroke.

[strong fiber]

Maybe

At that point i would just deal with it

[sullen gull]

But I tend to try and min/max when/where I can 🤷‍♂️

[strong fiber]

Its fine it just uses lots of sulfur

[sullen gull]

But, everything is essentially a tradeoff of one type or another imo

[grizzled lotus]

I found a water geyser, can I use those with the geothermal generator?

[twilit trellis]

i like to sit on them

[strong fiber]

Nitro could be better for some people

[delicate flower]

because im using 1600 suplhure as of right now im gonna guess ill run into troubles later?

[sullen gull]

If only using that much, will probably be fine.

[delicate flower]

yeah im only producing 144GW

[true mulch]

There's a balance, but I think the actual goal would most often be a low building count and possibly low resource variety more than raw cost

[delicate flower]

i dont intend to rework until i hit uranium

[strong fiber]

Theres 10800 sulfur in the whole world

[sullen gull]

Though for example with my build, making 420GW, I would have needed 4k+ sulfur vs 2600ish (If I recall)

[strong fiber]

Cooked

[delicate flower]

i dont think ill use up all the 144GW before i hit nuclear though

[strong fiber]

Also is it normal for one to have to send trains to bring raw resources to their nuclear plant?

[sullen gull]

Those are usually my goals. Shard all the things!

[sullen gull]

I've always heard that transporting raw resources isn't "effecient". But I don't really know as I've never personally done it.

[primal obsidian]

only? thats like half my grid

[sullen gull]

But, for some reason or another, I am stingy with sulfur 🤣

[primal obsidian]

tahts my whole nuclear power plant worth of power

[true mulch]

I still have an internalized belief that overclocking is bad, even though it's been buffed quite a lot over the years.
Not exactly what I had in mind by low building count, but you get my point

[strong fiber]

How you get through the game bro

One of my particle accelerators uses 5k mw

[primal obsidian]

what

[delicate flower]

@primal obsidian its only 288 200% OC generators

[primal obsidian]

i mean i beat the game with 240 GW in total it wasnt really a challenge

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ since I always went above and beyond with power generation, the bit of extra power usage from overclocking never concerned me. I would much rather build 20 refineries that do the work of 90

[barren spire]

Me: takes a break and turns on the TV. Sees that the world is still burning. Turns off TV. Boots up satisfactory.

[strong fiber]

Word

[primal obsidian]

i would much rather place 90 refineries regardless of how much power i have because it looks cooler

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message idk, smaller footprints can look cool as well 🤷‍♂️

That's about 230GW I think

[strong fiber]

How do you decorate

I cant decorate at all

[sullen gull]

About a year's worth of practice and learning 🤷‍♂️ 😏

[delicate flower]

is base super computer recipe best or is there a better one

rn i got OC super computer alt unlocked

[sullen gull]

That wasn't my save though. Just helped by building the power plant and bauxite factory: #screenshots message

@strong fiber These are some in my saves though: #screenshots message

[coral marsh]

Good morning satisfactorians

[sullen gull]

But, I don't consider myself "good enough" yet. Only then will I go for that Golden Nut 🤣

[primal obsidian]

me too

[tranquil zinc]

do pipe floor holes still remove headlift?

[strong fiber]

I got 600 tickets saved up rn

[primal obsidian]

not worth it#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Don't really care about the statue so much as I do the achievement. Already have all the others. This is just my own personal goal.

[primal obsidian]

jk i could never grind for this it was a multiplayer server

3 people did this

including me

[sullen gull]

OH.... shoot, I just remembered that I still have a save running on my personal dedicated I had going lol. Wonder how many coupons so far

[jaunty jewel]

good evening

[jaunty jewel]

i think im still only missing the mam achievement lol

not because its difficult just i cant be bothered to do it

[sullen gull]

If you've reached P5, Tier 9, should be cake as would be making the majority of items already 🤷‍♂️

[jaunty jewel]

i dont remember what i did for the nut, probably just left pc on for a while on a save producing a lot of p5 spelevator parts and sinking them all

[jaunty jewel]

i probably have 2 or 3 saves that i can go and fully unlock the mam on

[sullen gull]

And I probably could have bought the golden nut about 4k hours ago 🤣

[unkempt blade]

yeah but was it fun?

[finite mirage]

Golden nuts are always fun (im on p1 tier 3)

[fresh chasm]

are struck stations effective for going into the mid game?

[ornate saffron]

They can be effective always.

[grizzled lotus]

when building a port and a drone, does it matter where I build the drone (home port or destination port)?

[grizzled lotus]

I found truck stations very reliable. people hate on them (and there are valid reasons when compared to trains) but honestly they're kind of underrated. Just be careful not to have trucks cross paths

[fresh chasm]

ok gtocha

[fickle locust]

Yes, each drone is assigned to a home port and each port can only have one drone assigned to it. Others can visit but it'll be harder to do logistics if you have the wrong assignments

[golden nexus]

Trucks tend to be fiddly....

[grizzled lotus]

interesting. I want to set up a drone to take h.s.connectors from one factory and bring it to a supercomputer factory. how does it differ in this case?

[grizzled lotus]

just to point, but I recommend sticking wtih tractors instead of trucks until you get a better idea. tractors are generally more reliable imo

[golden nexus]

think of drones like they can both be a "push" or "pull" or both systems together

[dim flint]

I'm on to stage 4 of my NPP project and I'm a bit paralized trying to figure out where to place things.

[fickle locust]

If you're only doing the single transfer between those two stations it doesn't matter. This becomes a thing when you have fuel distribution drones going around and dropping off fuel for other drone ports, or multi-leg trips

[fickle locust]

What are you trying to site, and what do you have down already?

[grizzled lotus]

well, Iw as going to set up a fuel network, but I didn't know drones can do multiple trips? I thought they functioned like a train between two stations only

[fickle locust]

So first off trains don't have to be between just two stations either
But yeah, drones can be set to go from Port A to Port B, then B to C, then C to D, then D back to A

[white dawn]

No, Drones can only travel between their home port and one other port

[grizzled lotus]

I know about trains btw that was just an example

[dim flint]

So stage 4.1 is just the two sets of 42 manufactures... But I want to make sure things flow nicely into the more complex waste management area.

[white dawn]

You can have multiple drones delivering to the same port, but a single drone will only ever see two ports

[grizzled lotus]

the confusion -I believe- is due to the UI, but I haven't verified myself

[white dawn]

The UI will only let you choose a single destination for a drone. :)

It'll go back and forth between the home port and that dest port

[grizzled lotus]

I'm pretty sure it lets me choose another destination for the destination port, just below the home port in the menu

[white dawn]

Right, it will go from the home port to the single Destination port, and go back and forth between those forever

If you're talking about the UI at the destination port, that would only apply to a drone who's got that port set as its home

An individual drone is unavoidably only A<->B

[fickle locust]

Oh yeah I was mistaken thinking about the UI and how many to one setups work

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's common to have multiple drones set up to go to the same destination port (in those cases you'd usually not have a drone specifically assigned at that destination), so you can do that for sure

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message I'm talking about the second line here.

[white dawn]

Gotcha, yeah, that would be to configure the drone whose home port is "F+C"

I suppose I'm probably just used to ignoring that "Relevant Ports" section on there; I don't think I've ever found that particularly useful

(The "All Ports" tab can be quite useful since you can manage all your drones' settings from there)

[grizzled lotus]

I feel like this is getting more complicated than is necessary, but yeah I understand the point here

I actually didn't know I can set multiple drones to the same port, though, soooo

[fresh chasm]

how much more power does each overvclocking level use?

[grizzled lotus]

I was initially thinking of setting up different ports to bring different parts to a super computer factory. but now I realize at the scomputer factory instead of having different ports for part, I can set up a single destination port that receives all parts, right?

[golden nexus]

table in here https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Clock_speed

[white dawn]

The exact formula can be found here: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Advanced_clock_speed#Clock_speed_for_production_buildings -- it's not too bad, but it's not linear

(ie: 2 machines at 100% consume less power than one at 200%)

[white dawn]

You probably could, so long as you're keeping your throughput limits in mind. I tend to have one port per material, though

One thing to keep in mind with using the same port is that drones have to queue up to make deliveries if they arrive at the same time, and their docking animations take awhile

[grizzled lotus]

I see. might stick to the original one port per part plan

[white dawn]

Also, a drone doing deliveries will wait docked at the port for however long it takes to completely empty out its internal cargo, so if your receiving port is backed up a bit, it might take a bit longer for the drone to skitter off

[fresh chasm]

this game makes me realize how dumb i am

[white dawn]

Depending on the throughputs you're actually dropping off, it could be that neither of those points really matter much, of course

[dense violet]

just takes practice and planning. It's a skill like anything else

[white dawn]

I tend to stick to just one port-pair per transfer just so things are dead simple, but you can always mix it up. :)

[dense violet]

and you can improve those skills 🙂

[white dawn]

My own main use-case for multiple drones arriving at the same port is my "fuel depot" sites.

ie: create a fuel depot (making batteries, packaged rocket fuel, whatever), with a drone port or three (without any drone attached to 'em -- they're just the ports). ISC buffers ahead of each drone port. Then each remote "drone site" which needs to be fueled has a dedicated fuel-fetcher drone which grabs fuel from the depot (and distributes to all the other ports at its site)

Once the fuel-fetcher has made a few trips (needs to fill up all the buffers, etc) it'll spend the majority of its time docked at its site, waiting to fully unload the fuel, so the fuel depot drone ports don't tend to be very busy

The ISCs for buffers help even out instances where you spin up a new drone site, since the fuel-fetchers will end up making like 3-4 trips before all the buffers are full. :)

[grizzled lotus]

what's isc

also, I

[white dawn]

Industrial Storage Container

[grizzled lotus]

I think I might be plannning something similar? in my s.computer factory, I have one port to receive each part, but I also have one more just to distribute fuel to those drones

[fresh chasm]

is underclocking pretty much just for saving power?

[golden nexus]

or making recipis match

[dense violet]

the power savings is negligible - power is so abundant and easy there's no real point.
basically it's just control over input an d output

[grim plover]

i under for even machine count because i dont want it reading like "15.54 machines needed" you just clock 10 machines to 155.4 and call it a day

[whole drum]

Cobalt is mostly right, but early in the game you'll notice the power difference more (especially pre-oil). If you use a machine that produce like 40/m more than necessary, just underclock it to match what's actually needed. Across dozens of machines, this bit of power savings can add up to a little extra breathing room. This is just a good habit to have, but it loses its importance the more advanced your power production becomes, because you can so easily just overproduce to the point you no longer care.

[fresh chasm]

gotcha ty

[dense violet]

it really doesn't matter early game either, in the pre tutorial you have bio fuel and need grab a bunch of bio fuel - after that you have access to dozens of coal nodes that will pump out black smoke and power with barely any effort.

saving a mw here and there doesn't add eup enough to make any signficant difference in any way.

you'll spend more time and effort putting down more machines with less clocking than the moments it takes grabbing a few more leaves

[whole drum]

Another point worth noting is that people tend to take one of two approaches to space elevator parts:

• automate them and sink excess unless needed for later stages
• box feed machines that only build what you need and not run them outside of this

The first option takes significantly more power (especially early on), but yields a lot of shop tickets. The second option is much easier on the power consumption, but you don't get the extra points.

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message took a lot of effort and time, but finally, my supercomputer factory. my first factory based on a drone network (drone network is also fueled by a fuel network)

glad it's working. i'll be doing mroe of it

[whole drum]

You messed up the fuel lines on the ports that bring parts in. You don't want to push it into the storage intake. You want it just going to the fuel line.

It has a little icon over the correct one

The way you have it will cause the storage to get mixed fuel and parts, which will eventually clog your production

[grizzled lotus]

it is going to the fuel inputs only. either you didn't notice the belts, or looked at the port providing fuel

yeah I looked again, fuel is only going to the fuel inputs

[whole drum]

Okay good. Probably just because they are so close together it looks like it's going into the wrong ones.

[robust grove]

can someone explain to me why i might consider using the pure caterium ingot alternative?

[feral jay]

Caterium is kinda scarce, and the pure recipe uses 33% less of it

Actually, all the caterium alts use 33% less than the classic recipe

[sullen gull]

And, if you don't mind the use of some copper, the Fused Quickwire alt makes a good combo imo.

[feral jay]

Wait no, leached gives you an even bigger boost

Gonna build some blueprints tonight in preparation for a big heavy frames factory

[dense violet]

depending on the size of your production line you may need more caterium and stretch it out

though any place I'm using caterium I'll also be using oil products, so I use tempered caterium.

just needs a bit of coke and same output with fewer refineries

[feral jay]

Tempered caterium doesn't give you any more ingots than pure does, given the same caterium input

[sullen gull]

But if you're using oil, chances are you can make/have pet coke

[feral jay]

Yes and it would be good if you're not near water

[dense violet]

barely any extra oil needed

[feral jay]

I've never set up a pet coke distribution network

[dense violet]

pure caterium isn't quite as bad as pure copper in terms of nonsense, but still.

[sullen gull]

Nonsense?

[feral jay]

Cobalt doesn't like the pure recipes

[dense violet]

just the amount of god damn refineries and pipes needed for a bit extra copper vs the alloy recipes

[sullen gull]

I feel it's more of a pipe thing

[feral jay]

I'll agree that the pure recipes mean endless refinery banks, and it not only gets boring, but limits you to areas near water

[dense violet]

I was comparing a couple production lines between an alloy and pure copper system

3000 copper ore and some iron that is everywhere and 60 assemblers

or

2400 copper ore and ass load of water pipes and 160 refineries

I'll spend that bit of extra copper and iron every day for that trade

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's why I overclock. Would only be 64 refineries 😛 And with blueprints, I can have 2400 copper knocked out an ..... I'll say an hour... 1.5 max (If I have allt the materials to build ofc)

[weak cloud]

First time being back since before 1.1 came out. I don't remember there always being a yellow clipping warning when using these Conveyer Poles. It's not clipping anything and I'm going between two poles that are directly in line with each other. Why does it say I'm clipping?

[feral jay]

The clipping warnings really need some work imo

[sullen gull]

And, just to be that "extra" will have it on one manifold 🙂

[feral jay]

It doesn't affect anything mechanics-wise though

[weak cloud]

It's telling me I'm clipping even selecting the starting point on the conveyer poles... frustrating.

[feral jay]

You can clip anything anywhere, and it'll all still work

[dense violet]

64 refineries vs like 20 foundries 😛 still madness and a trade I'd do every day

[ornate saffron]

'i saw one build where the somehow clipped the fuel generators under the water so one the top of the stack as stinking out of the water. then it was decorated to look like a buoy

[weak cloud]

I know but I just wanted to make sure I wans't doing something funky to cause it

[feral jay]

Nah it's more that clipping used to be a thing, but they basically eliminated it as a restriction. It still warns you, but because it doesn't actually affect anything any longer, it's not a priority to fix it.

[sullen gull]

I feel like this only works if A: Building in the Dune Desert. B: bringing ore by train C: long belt hwy. In the end, it requires 600 more copper and 3k of iron. Definitely probably looks nicer if oc'd as it'd only be 24 foundries, but not worth the extra logisticals personally. Usually any iron near a factory (since they aren't typically making one thing) is used up for other stuff. And, water really only costs power. Unless not near it, then ofc would need a long pipe line or package and transport in.

Still though, is a decent option to avoid any plumbing. (Personally I say bring me allll the pipes! 🤣 )

[dense violet]

refineries are huge and ugly

[sullen gull]

Lol, definately an outliar from the others for sure. But I never found them that horrible once I realized "I got what I got and gotta work with it"

[robust grove]

be nice to the refineries :(

[sullen gull]

lol, I was going to say don't be body shaming the big bois 🤣

[feral jay]

Nope, I just kill them

For some reason in this save I'm killing a lot of them

[sullen gull]

Not Steeeeeve .... lol

Read the roooom lol

[feral jay]

They just show up, in the most inconvenient of places, and then get stuck

Gives me an excuse to use my turbo ammo

[rich shoal]

Why my path signals dont work? the yellow ! sign keeps appearing

[placid stirrup]

Because you did something incorrectly

[feral jay]

A) A screenshot and a question in #1038092680493801533 are needed to answer that question

B) Do it without path signals first. There's nothing path signals do that block signals can't.

Path signals just make things faster, if used correctly.

If used wrong, they make things slower.

[rich shoal]

im using them like traffic lights to give priority to some trails, is this a valid use?

[feral jay]

No

Block signals will do that too

[rich shoal]

so i can

[feral jay]

Path signals don't give priority to anything

heh actually the game could use that - priority signals, so we can make 2-way or 4-way stops

hey wtf my foundation hologram just tilted and I was able to place an angled foundation, just by quickly cancelling a build order

I'm thinking this "throw a nobelisk or have a siptter in the vicinity" build technique might be a weird glitch

[gloomy tusk]

With the power boost what is the converyer belt on it for

Alien power augmenter

[dense violet]

!wikisearch augmenter

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=augmenter

[feral jay]

MOAH POWAH

[gloomy tusk]

What can I put into it

[feral jay]

I don't use augmenters though, seems like a waste of sloops to me that could otherwise be used to increase production. I can just build more power plants.

[gloomy tusk]

They are a 10% power boost it’s insane

[feral jay]

||put the right thing on the belt and it's 30%||

[gloomy tusk]

What thing

[feral jay]

Not gonna spoil it in here, it's on the wiki

[gloomy tusk]

Yeah I don’t have that unlocked

[grim carbon]

how much power can a biomass burner give out?

[gloomy tusk]

75mw

[grim carbon]

I have 3 constructors connected via a power pole

it keeps blowing the fuse

[gloomy tusk]

Sorry only 30

So if you have 3 it’s 90

[grim carbon]

too much?

[gloomy tusk]

I’d your power exceeds your capacity your power will stop working

[grim carbon]

makes sense

[gloomy tusk]

#screenshots if the orange line reaches the grey line your power dies

[tranquil zinc]

why are fluids so erratic. I have a 4x10 refinery setup. the first four groups are fine but the last one is not. And THEY ARE IDENTICAL SETUP (blueprint)

can you put multiple valves in a single pipeline to force it to go to a specific direction?

[sullen gull]

"could" but could also creat issues elsewear. My advice would be to first make sure your fluids are in a loop. If trying to feed "all the way down the line", then it makes sense the last one isn't working.

[tranquil zinc]

I was thinking like this #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

I would personally strongly advise against doing that.

[tranquil zinc]

what would happen?

[grim plover]

how to absolutely throttle ur pipes

i usually try avoiding valves entirely

[feral jay]

Stop putting so much into them

[sullen gull]

Lol, that I couldn't fully say, but someone else may have a better answer lol. Have you looked at the pipeline manual by chance? I feel it may have been linked to you before?

[grim plover]

no i was referring to the screenshots

not my own pipework

[tranquil zinc]

why would it throttle though? I will set as is, so 600m3/min same as mk ii

[feral jay]

ok, uh, wtf is the reason for that?

Like, what's the end goal?

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[sullen gull]

#satisfactory message

[feral jay]

I mean I can probably help, but I don't understand the problem

What can ten valves possibly do, that one valve can't?

[zealous urchin]

weakest valve enjoyer

[feral jay]

And why is "absolutely throttle my pipes" a goal in the first place?

[zealous urchin]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[feral jay]

And what does "absolutely throttle" actually mean?

dammit, DEFINE THE PROBLEM

[grim plover]

???

[feral jay]

(I'm trying to be funny)

[grim plover]

bro i wasnt talking about my pipes

valves just nuke my fluids for some reason so i avoid them like the plague

[feral jay]

Replying to that message

[grim plover]

yes im saying thats what the 10 valves would do

[feral jay]

Ah, agreed, avoid valves if at all possible

[sullen gull]

Reminds me of this little doozy 😏 #screenshots message

[zealous urchin]

and what DOES

[zealous urchin]

😆 MEWING 😆

[feral jay]

Zoinks

[sullen gull]

Some one was asking for help, and all he kept hearing was "add more pumps" 🤦‍♂️

[feral jay]

"Add more pumps" is always wrong

[tranquil zinc]

trying to loop it, no fluid goes up through the loop. Its also loop at the end (1st row of machines will give extra to the problem row #screenshots message

[dense violet]

remove the buffers, feed the loop from the top

[sullen gull]

Also remove the junctions and make it one pipe

[feral jay]

First off, remove the buffers, all they do is make problems take longer to manifest

[dense violet]

example https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1456108589847412788/image.png?ex=696af0cd&is=69699f4d&hm=b48512ecd65fdf1284130767cad583f8be27ca9baf22a6f249db548ce2f9bf83&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1304&height=1017

[grim estuary]

Are you able to put conveyors through portals?