satisfactory

[fickle locust]

Those are different from the quartz deposits (the rocks that break apart) you can find

[whole drum]

Underrated tip tbh

There are some nodes in the early game near certain starting locations where they spawn with a destructible rock on them, but you can still use portables to tap them if you don't mind it only being semi-automated until you get nobs.

[zenith shard]

HOLY CRAP I found a debris and its like a treasure mine

[eager harbor]

Love u limestone

[whole drum]

Yeah, crash sites are great in the early game. Not just for the HDs.

Especially since they can be deconstructed.

[mortal ginkgo]

I LUV U TOO BIG DAWG GO GO LIMESTONE TEAM WOOOOOOOOO

Also impure limestone nodes take priority on team yes #notbiased

[whole drum]

🇱 ❗ 🇲 3️⃣

(It's impure, so we can't use all the correct figures)

[sweet light]

Sli...

[cinder jay]

is there mk3 pipes

[whole drum]

Not yet

😏

[cinder jay]

damn it

[main parcel]

anyone else still getting "vanishing" (clipping through the floor/ground inbetween sessions) lizard doggos?

reminds me of update 5 or so when cars did the same

[whole drum]

Yeah, for some reason they vanish shortly after intercepting rebar.

[mortal ginkgo]

you need to put them over foundation, or else their respawn points stay same (probably where you got them)

I got 7 doggos that never moved away or fell down

[main parcel]

they even clip through foundation. i have 3 levels of foundation for them to safely fall through to now, and i guide them back up and around when they fall through.

[dim flint]

I'm procrastinating building my quickwire factory by working late... what is my life.

[mortal ginkgo]

your life is all about waiting for Half Life 3

[whole drum]

If you don't have the pure cat recipe, procrastinate some more

[dim flint]

Half Life: Alyx was fun!

[dim flint]

I have pure caterium and pure copper going to fused quickwire.

It's only 50 200% clocked machines... but I mostly just don't have a plan for how to belt the inputs yet and I'm dreadding it.

[eager harbor]

WOOOOOOOO

[whole drum]

What's there to plan? It's just output-->input.

[zenith shard]

got 400 pcs of quartz, should be enough for now :))

[covert quarry]

is it better if i try to find iron and coal nodes next to each other for steel procution?

[eager harbor]

Only?

[zenith shard]

inventory was full

[eager harbor]

just make a conveyor out of the cave

And place a miner on it

[zenith shard]

"cave"?

I am focusing on trying to make rotor first though

[eager harbor]

Just make it mine alone

This way u get so much without having to wait again

[tired cypress]

"may I ask if you've considered all the possibilities of the other direction?" the elevator asks as I descend from the top floor

[eager harbor]

😂

[eager harbor]

Why did the government steal ur pants?

[tired cypress]

🤷 just a silly thing I made up

[zenith shard]

is there better weapon?

the creatures in the jungle are kicking my ass lol

[ornate saffron]

two melee weapons, two ranged and the boombox

[zenith shard]

the boombox is a weapon????

I really need a good sword <3

[ornate saffron]

it does 1 damage and launches creatures

[fluid crow]

1 damage kills bees

[whole drum]

Generally, yes. Coal + Water = Power. Coal + Iron = Steel.

With alt recipes you can change it up some (like coke steel ingots), but at first it's simple.

[ornate saffron]

the game is telling me ive played for ten hours.....

[tired cypress]

rookie numbers

[whole drum]

Now that it's done installing, have you considered your start location?

[ornate saffron]

im nearing 1000 hours. i mon my 7th start location

[ornate saffron]

pretty good since i worked 7 hours lol

[whole drum]

Yeah, I'm just playin'. 😄

I'm at 700+ atm

[ornate saffron]

taking it slow and back to basics this time

[hazy void]

is it possible to rotate something to make it face upwards im trying to make a smooth slope for train tracks

[eager harbor]

Np

[whole drum]

I've been taking it a bit slower on this save too. Doing more decorating and trying stuff out that I skipped over before.

[ornate saffron]

exactly

[eager harbor]

finally BATTLEFIELD 6 DOWNLOAD IS DONE

[ornate saffron]

lots of people tend to make train spirals to gain vertical hieght

[zenith shard]

hoooly shit blade runner is good

[ornate saffron]

cool now ignore it. the factory needs you

[tired cypress]

yeah pretty neat film

[eager harbor]

Bruh

[ornate saffron]

core item

[hazy void]

ive done that before adn im fine with it but when the train track length limit is reached, i need to place the end on something and ive always placed that end on a level foundation, making the track slope up then go level and back and forth. I want to know if i can make the foundation point up so the track doesnt go up then level a million times

[whole drum]

PvP shooters have lost so much appeal to me over the years. They used to be a blast, but it just became annoying nonsense of cheaters, cheap/lame gimmicks, squeakers, drugees, and everyone having MCS. 🤮

[ornate saffron]

I try to make blueprints that link together to prevent that

lots of resources though

[hazy void]

how would i do that

reseource isnt a problem

[ornate saffron]

i stillo play quake 3 with some people. but thats about it

[whole drum]

I like coop shooters a lot still--Borderlands, The Division, Warframe, etc

Even more than shooters, I'm just tired of team-based PvP

[ornate saffron]

make a blueprint with foundations for left, right and straight. Perhaps decorate it a little and leave a spot on the underside for some sort of support column you can add latter if needed

[whole drum]

Because you can't ever rely on having decent teammates, or at least ones you can coordinate/cooperate with

[ornate saffron]

i play og ut sometimes lol

[hazy void]

i need tilt tho thats the big thing

upwards and downward tild

[whole drum]

Play League--you'll get all the tilt you could wish for

[ornate saffron]

maybe ask in design and architecture for some advice im sure someone has done it

[hazy void]

ok

[whole drum]

She's the Temu Glados

[ornate saffron]

at times

did you see the UT short on Amazon?>

[gritty tinsel]

Hey yall i need help. my game is forced to dx11 when i dont use the launch options. anyway to fix this?

[oak nymph]

Zipline are so slow is there a way to go faster

[tired cypress]

press shift

for some reason the "running" state is separate for them

[white dawn]

You can try deleting the Engine.ini file stored near your savegames

[placid stirrup]

Wanna go Mach f**k?

[white dawn]

And make sure that you're not passing -dx11 as a commandline arg. :)

[ornate saffron]

hold shift while using, they also conserve momentum. so slide jump attach for increased speed.

[oak nymph]

Ok

[ornate saffron]

once ytou get the jetpack you can tap it to realease the crouch to dive back onto to gain more speed

[white dawn]

(There's a less nuclear option than just deleting Engine.ini outright, but I'm on mobile at the moment, and removing it entirely should be fine. :)

[whole drum]

Hyper-cannon onto them?

[oak nymph]

I have jetpack

[ornate saffron]

ive never tried lol i avoid the man cannon

[whole drum]

I'll have to try after I wake up rofl

[placid stirrup]

Scared of a lil speed?

[ornate saffron]

motion sickness

[whole drum]

Rip your arm off attaching to that shit 😆

I still want one thing in 1.3: A flamethrower whose range and dps improve with fuel quality.

Have the flame change color too

[placid stirrup]

fair enough, have a nice day

If I've been playing for a couple hours straight that can sometimes happen to me too

[gritty tinsel]

whys there two engine.inis

i have Windows and WindowsNoEditor

[fluid crow]

I wonder what one you should edit

[gritty tinsel]

only one of the engine inis had the vulkan line in it so that mustve fixed the issue

declaring as resolved for now

ok so apparently my game doesnt support vulkan, because it auto switches to dx11 as backup anytime i try to change it

LogRHI: RHI Vulkan with Feature Level SM6 is supported and will be used.
logs say its supported.. looking further
RX 6600 XT

[zenith shard]

does it make sense to just overclock miners?

[whole drum]

Depends on how much throughput your belts can support

[zenith shard]

what's the best way to build long distance belt?

[whole drum]

Don't--unless you really have to

Better to build near resources

[tired cypress]

a train

[stray summit]

yall what do i do here
#screenshots

[whole drum]

However, once you have the blueprint designer, you can set one up for auto-connect and can build efficient belt systems that way

Thinking about my coal/sulfur train system, this is probably why I do usually just belt stuff

Especially if it needs to change elevation drastically

[stray summit]

look at my screenshot rq
is there a peice that fits that slot?

[whole drum]

You should post that in #design-and-architecture so people can reply to you there. That's not really what screenshots is for.

[stray summit]

ohh

well i didnt know that existed nieither if it had screenhsot abilities

[whole drum]

However, no--there isn't a piece that fits well there because you have differing styles clashing on that corner.

[coral marsh]

Had an idea for an addition to the game, Aerogel, made in either a converter or particle accelerator, alt of plastic made using excited photonic matter, carbon and liquid nitrogen (or packaged liquid nitrogen). Replacement for plastic in recipes.

[stray summit]

"ARTHUR! I HAVE A GODDAMN PLAN!!!"

[stray summit]

damn

[whole drum]

Anyhow... nap time 😴

[stray summit]

sleeps in conveyor belt by accident and gets turned into a supercomputer

[fluid crow]

you wanted to travel like materials and Ficsit listens

[manic sparrow]

I love exploiting the planet for my own gain- i mean for FICIT

Also, holy heck the parachute is so busted.
It has this weird momentum bug with inclines, where you just, go up them
I was able to get up to that big plateau using just the parachute to ascend up the cliff faces.
Please keep this, it's hillarious, and amazing.

[fluid crow]

I noticed that too

[manic sparrow]

It's so fun to mess with

Also, does the arachnophobia mode still work? Cause i cant find it, and the command seems to be a Schrödinger

[ornate saffron]

it still exists. us the search bar in the options menu

[ornate saffron]

love the parachutes

[fluid crow]

in Accessibility

[manic sparrow]

also i blame camwing for getting me addicted

[spare cradle]

Should I wait till getting the MK2 to create my dumb idea of a building to place an amount of blueprint platforms. The reason is so I can edit the blueprints I have as of their current state within those platforms so I don't need to load and upload, just upload.

[fluid crow]

guess it depends if enough of your idea will fit into mk.1 to be useful

[cunning glade]

So what's the general rule of thumb for the max amount a train can send out a min

Cuz I have the MK2 train mod which does double the capacity but I'm gonna be sending out around 15k copper ingots a min I think

[near siren]

so i just unloacked the train yipppeee lol now i need to build my oil infrastructure lol

[hazy void]

how do i switch between exits in the hyper tibe juntion?

[hybrid nymph]

Might I recommend the oil source near the beach? That oil source has four nodes, two pure and two normal

[near siren]

yea i got them already

[cunning glade]

Go get hard drives first

[hybrid nymph]

You can set up an extractor on each one of the oil nodes that are pure and extract 600 ^3m per minute from each If you fully overclock it. That's enough to power 4 fully overclocked refineries producing fuel, then you can set up 7 refineries producing turbofuel

[near siren]

i got trucks running to my outposts to resupply my main production areas

[amber tusk]

is there a place to report bugs? :)

[cunning glade]

U could easily produce enough for like 50

I'm using that spot too make 60gw I think

[zenith shard]

fuuuuck why do I need so much coal ;_;

[cunning glade]

Which isn't a lot but decent for starting

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sullen gull

[cunning glade]

What

[zenith shard]

im going genuinely insane with this game

btw does blue slimes respawn?

[sullen gull]

Slugs of any type do not respawn.

[cunning glade]

lilkirkenuenly?

[zenith shard]

how do I get more of those power thing? :(

[cunning glade]

Find them

Object scanner can find them

[zenith shard]

and if I already found all of them?

[cunning glade]

Idk if u have too research it

[cunning glade]

There's like 900

[sullen gull]

Firstly you should be slooping them otherwise, explore to find them. Also, you will be able to automate power shards later on.

[cunning glade]

But then u make them

[sullen gull]

Yeah, doubtful imo.

[cunning glade]

Hey tinker what's the like max amount a train can do a min

Cuz I'm either gonna need too move 6k copper powder

[spare cradle]

It will mostly be painted things like wall segments and stuff

[cunning glade]

Or like 15k copper ingots

[sullen gull]

I am not too versed on trains tbh. The wiki may have the info you're looking for though.

[cunning glade]

Valid

Hmmm we shall see then

[fluid crow]

if it's something you can build together into larger pieces later, it might work good

[wispy osprey]

Aren't there like 6,000 slugs in the world or something like that

[fickle locust]

Theoretically it's infinite. Just add another train car and it increases throughput

[wispy osprey]

Wait I think it was 6000 power crystals worth of slug

And then infinite synthetic after that

[sullen gull]

Just over 5k if slooped

[wispy osprey]

A very decent number without synthetic shards

[sullen gull]

Though, that is a good bit of exploration

Which, I'm totally all for.

[wispy osprey]

The map is very well designed

[rugged fiber]

I had ChatGPT explain the placement of block signals in a way i could make them work and I finally GET IT 🙂

[wispy osprey]

I hear we're getting random nodes in the future, meaning the potential of pure uranium

[sullen gull]

Haha, I mean, if it works 😉

I have went ham on everything else but trains lol. Kind of want to have a good set of "good looking" factories before doing trains 😛

[rugged fiber]

I have a one way system with spurs to pickk up products 🙂

[sullen gull]

Where'd you hear that?

[wispy osprey]

Now have them explain an 8-way intersection lane transfer U-turn

[wispy osprey]

Wiki

[sullen gull]

Fandom Wiki? 😏

[wispy osprey]

Official wiki, I haven't trusted Fandom ever

[sullen gull]

Link?

[wispy osprey]

Jesus fucking Christ one sec

[rugged fiber]

I prefer a simplistic train system , easier to know what is where and who needs what 🙂 8 way sounds WAY beyond what i would like ;0

[eager harbor]

I am working on making tzar bombs soon

[sullen gull]

I mean, its not that important.... 🙄

[eager harbor]

Sadly no plutonium

But I will make it trust 🤞

[sullen gull]

@wispy osprey nm, found it

[wispy osprey]

Addition of game modes has been hinted, but will not be a post-game / end-game extension.
Resource Node randomization was hinted to being added to game

[rugged fiber]

you may have should of waited lol

[sullen gull]

Don't really care after the attitude tbh 🤷‍♂️

[rugged fiber]

😉

[wispy osprey]

Sorry about that

[rugged fiber]

coal power is NICE when it settles to steady flow 🙂 that can get a bit tricky

[wispy osprey]

Coal power isn't enough, 75w per plant is hilariously underutilized potential of coal usage

[rugged fiber]

Just started Phase 2 so it works for the moment 🙂

[cunning glade]

U really don't get much power from coal

[rugged fiber]

The constant supply is the best part though no more cutting trees

[sullen gull]

Yeah, definitely just a smol step before fuel imo.

[wispy osprey]

Immediately replace it with fuel power, that will last you until blenders assist production

[zenith shard]

is priority merger good?

[sullen gull]

VERY niche

[wispy osprey]

It's alright for conveyor throughput

[oak nymph]

How do I make the most amount of power out of one pure crude oil node can you send recipe please

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[wispy osprey]

10 refineries 300m³ per sec, sink the resin or use it.

Read more on the wiki for a basic turbofuel setup. I don't remember the command

[sullen gull]

I've only ever used it to merge compacted coal back in with the recipe I just posted. Most definitely not needed though.

[gloomy tusk]

no way drawing xaos is in here

[wispy osprey]

Refineries royally suck for turbofuel production, immediately replace Refineries with blenders

[oak nymph]

I mean I have turbofuel and all wouldn't it be better using it

[sullen gull]

Sure, if you dont care about sulfur usage

[wispy osprey]

Sulfur can be taken later when you have an even better power source

[sullen gull]

Both the TF alt and the RF alt just chomp down on sulfur. Personally not a fan at all.

[sullen gull]

I NEVER build to dismantle later. That's crazy talk! 🤣

[wispy osprey]

I wouldn't if sulfur wasn't such a heavily necessary resource

[zenith shard]

hell yeah finally got 60/m quartz production

[wispy osprey]

There seriously needs to be 4-5 more pure nodes in the world

[fading whale]

It can be. But rarely needed.
I use it for a belt that I need to keep maxed out. If I use a normal merger, it will take 50/50 from primary and secondary source. That can make the primary stagger a bit.
But with the priority merger, it only takes from the secondary source if/when needed. Keeps the primary running smoothly.

[wispy osprey]

Perhaps I can convert turbofuel to rf without stealing more sulfur.

As long as it powers 50+ gens

So many fuel gens...

[sullen gull]

Hence why I stick with compacted coal. Not too crazy with sulfur usage, and lowered due to recycling. And then I primarily only ever use Sulfur for Leeched Iron ingots and nuke

[zenith shard]

HOLY SHIT, there's radar tower???

[wispy osprey]

It's an expensive recipe, I haven't made one yet

[sullen gull]

Heh, 50 is cake lol. My first one is ever did had 400, and the current one I am severely slow-boating will have 672. All at 250% 😏

[fading whale]

Looks more impressive than it is 😉

[fluid crow]

Radio tower seems most useful for putting down when you need it

[zenith shard]

its better than marking the map everyday

I hope the explorer is good though, kinda hyped for it

[fluid crow]

or aesthetics 😂

[zenith shard]

is factory cart/explorer much faster than blade runner?

[sullen gull]

Imo it is fun for "exploration"... but that's about it.

[wispy osprey]

But that's with 780+ belts

I'm stuck with 480 belts until I make my first aluminum plant. If I wanted one that scale I would need more sulfur because of belt maxing

[sullen gull]

Also I guess there may still be a bug where it does not clear the fog of war

[fluid crow]

is working for me

[wispy osprey]

Turbofuel refineries already eat so much compacted coal

[sullen gull]

Can't remember if you're on PC or Console, but if PC, I can totally help ya out and have you up and running and ready for producing all 12,300 bauxite (fully when you get mk6 belts of course) if ya want 😉

[wispy osprey]

I'm starting small on aluminum to get some belts for necessary upgrades

When I've got what I need I'll go heavy on that

480 belts are okay literally anywhere else

Coal and sulfur are just stupid

[sullen gull]

Its been a bit since I have done it. Been on a creative save for a bit so didn't have to worry about it. But @white dawn made reference to it the other day.

[fluid crow]

on pc it's working at least

on a new save

[sullen gull]

Right on. I'll keep on suggesting to go out and explore in the explorer then 🙂

[wispy osprey]

Fuel is kind of an annoying step on recycling plastic and rubber because you can directly pack fuel from HOR

[sullen gull]

Honestly, I just dedicate a factory build strictly to recycled plastic and rubber... that's all the fuel goes towards for that. And then will do diluted again for a power plant.

[wispy osprey]

When the goal is mass producing plastic and rubber so much fuel is made, a very ridiculous amount of it

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[bleak vortex]

hey all. im playing on a dediserv. if i place a pattern on a foundation it rotates 90 degrees from what the building tool shows. foundations are alligned with world grid. is there a way to fix it?
i restarted game and and pc but didnt work

[wispy osprey]

Again, I have to make something smaller scale because belts

I guess at most 960/min each which is still good at my stage of the game

[sullen gull]

That was just something I whipped up for goodquestion last night

Usually, I start with 900 oil > 1200/1200 plubber

[steady dagger]

what does the space elevator do

[wispy osprey]

Just don't forget that most of the game is very very limited for no discernible reason

[sullen gull]

Eh, idk, I kinda disagree tbh

[wispy osprey]

I know, it's how progression works

[dense violet]

lets you progress

[wispy osprey]

I still don't like how far behind i am

[steady dagger]

is that it 😔

[dense violet]

and story stuff

[steady dagger]

so its pretty much useless

needed but useless

[sullen gull]

One of the "main goals" of the game is to produce parts and put them in the space elevator to progress like Colbalt stated .

[dense violet]

it has very little fucntion yes

[steady dagger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982077159508152440/1134327779664605214/bubuquestionmark.gif

rigged

[dense violet]

which isn'ts really surprising. A space elevator's thing is moving things up and down

[sullen gull]

Outside of having one of the coolest animations in the game imo 🤣

[dense violet]

sure, but that's not functional

[sullen gull]

Yeah/no, just stating 😉

[dense violet]

it's basically pure aesthetics

[wispy osprey]

Shoutouts to pioneers that never belt to space elevator and deliver from their inventory

[sullen gull]

Honestly I never understood why there were so many conveyor ports. It ends up clogging after it's reached the limit anyhow 🤷‍♂️

[wispy osprey]

I know one of the later stages needs like 6000+ parts though

[dense violet]

belt as an option?
maybe they had other plans for it originally before the ycut the story

[sullen gull]

That's what I assumed. Maybe similar to shapes where you can just continuously feed parts or something 🤷‍♂️

[fluid crow]

you guys don't have 6 belts pumping into the space elevator at all times?

[dense violet]

It's a very early created item in game so maybe it was even just to keep their options open

[wispy osprey]

If it could actually function as a delivery port of some sort for another currency, I dunno. A furniture store would be neat

[golden nexus]

No, They don't go anywhere and they change from phase to phase. So there is no point in setting it up long term

[sullen gull]

Facetious 😏

[golden nexus]

Only time i set a belt up to the elevator is so i can use it as a progress tracker

[fluid crow]

I think we all know the best way to load the space elevator

[golden nexus]

I have always said the game need something more "continuous" delivery mode

[sullen gull]

A truck station and a factory cart??? 😏

[golden nexus]

Nope, Cyber wagon.... for when you want a challange

[wispy osprey]

Is cyber wagon pc only

[golden nexus]

Don't think so, you just need to sink a coupon

[sullen gull]

Sink a coupon

[wispy osprey]

Oh I never thought of that

[sullen gull]

ONLY 1 though 🤣

[wispy osprey]

At least I have a bit over 100 of them

[fluid crow]

omg that's hilarious

[sullen gull]

Not sure how on console, but on PC you can [hold] right click to split stacks

[wispy osprey]

Triangle splits items

[golden nexus]

you just did this?

[wispy osprey]

I would much prefer to use MKB but they're slow to add console support

[cunning glade]

Well all the machines are placed I now get too do the fun part of pipes and conveyers

We ended up with 6450 rubber a min and 3k plastic

[zenith shard]

LOL I got judged by ADA for killing the giant creature thing

[cunning glade]

So we have 6600 plastic a min and 6450 rubber a min too use

[wispy osprey]

Whose pockets do I have to fill to have mkb console support on satisfactory in a day

[cunning glade]

Wait it doesn't work?

[sullen gull]

I thought you were doing a recycled setup?

[golden nexus]

Now you just need caterium

[cunning glade]

I am?

[sullen gull]

Then why not symmetrical?

[cunning glade]

For?

[wispy osprey]

They're aware people want it, it'll be added "at a later date"

[steady dagger]

how do i connect to miners with conveyor, what tier do i get something like that

[cunning glade]

Cuz I'm already making 3600 plastic somewhere else this was supposed too be just rubber but I thought 3.6k plastic too 9k rubber a min was silly

[golden nexus]

computers / supercomputer etc... if you look at caterium circuitboard/caterium computer recipies you can make comps using the plastic / rubber

[fluid crow]

I thought the method for getting the truck was funny

[sullen gull]

After the onboarding.

[cunning glade]

Oh yeah computers are my next goal I think

[golden nexus]

Yeah...

[steady dagger]

what do i need

[cunning glade]

I'm aiming for I think 100 a min

[sullen gull]

Gotcha

[cunning glade]

Somewhere in that ball park should work

[golden nexus]

30/min is like 200/min plastic/rubber btw

Its 22.5/rubber for 3.75/computers

[cunning glade]

Need 1.1k rubber and 1k plastic for 100

[sullen gull]

I have no idea where you are at in your progression so I can't say. Honestly though, if you just listen to ada and follow the prompts you should be good to go. Also, you can press O and click the inbox tab to review/replay messages if needed.n

[golden nexus]

just need 400 circuit boards and 1400/quickwire

[sullen gull]

Pure cat Ingot + fused quick wire = ❤️

[cunning glade]

It's 3114.286 quick wire actually

[wispy osprey]

It's hard to justify how much wrong I've got in my save. But it still works

The key to keep motivation is to realize that high efficiency is an endgame.

You'll make more than enough with what you have

[sullen gull]

What does "efficiency" mean to you?

[golden nexus]

is that for the computer or the computers + circuit boards?

[wispy osprey]

Funny number go up

[cunning glade]

Its what tools says I need for the whole build

[wispy osprey]

Seeing a storage fill very very fast is satisfying

One could say, satisfactory

[rich shoal]

I'm making a train system and want to know how many freight platforms I need to max efficiency ¿There's a way to know that? Or should just set as many as I can

[golden nexus]

Whats very fast?

[zenith shard]

why can't I find ficmas gifts anymore?

[cunning glade]

Event prolly over

[golden nexus]

ITs a complex calculation, It involved stack size, length of run etc...

[wispy osprey]

In my stage of the game my fastest storage fill rate is 960/min

[sullen gull]

Did you make trees to produce the gifts?

[rich shoal]

Do you have ficsmas trees!

[zenith shard]

I have the trees yeah

[golden nexus]

In multiplayer we have concrete fill faster than that 😛

[zenith shard]

wait they produce gifts?

[sullen gull]

That's why

[zenith shard]

I tried chain sawing it and it didn't work

[rich shoal]

Theres a video about it? As I can image I have to finish the whole thing first

[wispy osprey]

That's because you're in a higher tier of belts. I produce 1440 steel per minute altogether

[cunning glade]

It's gonna be fun piping 3k oil around too this plant

[wispy osprey]

But that's in 2 containers

[stone moth]

Hear me out, vertical conveyer splitters

[zenith shard]

what do I do to get the gifts??

[golden nexus]

Dunno, But a train carriage holds 32 stacks... So if you need 500/min you get 1 stack a minute in the carriage. So you get 32 minutes. 15 minutes in each direction If you have something run at 500/min and it stacks at 100 you get 1/5th this time.. cause its hold 1/5th the count

[wispy osprey]

It can be done, vertical into a splitter

[golden nexus]

Theres also a 28 second spause per station

[stone moth]

Yeah but they look weird, i want a splitter that is a verticle version of a splitter to make it look better

[cunning glade]

Why are pipes so horny for each other like I just wanna place down pipes without them connecting even holding control it's doing it

[zenith shard]

actually no I don't have a gift tree

[wispy osprey]

The key is placing junctions first

Connect pipes to junctions, they'll always go in that direction

[sullen gull]

Usually ends around the 17th/18th

[cunning glade]

Can I mod this back in?

[sullen gull]

But, also make sure you're placing them the "correct" way

[cunning glade]

I'd assume there's a mod

[sullen gull]

To reactivate? Yes

[cunning glade]

Ye on my other world my friend completely missed it

[wispy osprey]

Just collect a lot of ficsmas gifts in vanilla over the next week and get your MAM drives

Fill up a lot of storages with gifts and profit later

[rich shoal]

Also There's a way to set the freight at the position that I need? Cuz if the first freight car is occupied I have to put a second platform to load at the second car, I hate that the train can't just go a bit forward to charge

Cuz the main problem is that not the amount of platform per se

[sullen gull]

Personally, Christmas is just "another day on the calendar" for me, so, last year and this year, I barely messed with it. 🤷‍♂️

[golden nexus]

Trains behave more like a belt extender.....

[coral marsh]

ImKibitz is gonna be a huge inspiration of a 3rd world i make in the game

[sullen gull]

Empty platforms

[coral marsh]

I love his factory bases

[cunning glade]

Okay well when it's ur first time playing the game is extremely cool event and I just know my friend would like an event like this cuz it's cute or whatever 🤷

[rich shoal]

I forget about that

Thanks

[cunning glade]

But same the event is cool tho

[sullen gull]

Ahh yeah/no, totally agree.

[cunning glade]

So was really hyped for them too see it then they had college stuff and holiday stuff so they got busy😔

[wispy osprey]

Also don't forget additional trains can gather from stations

One single train picking up from a mostly platform station is a waste of potential collecting

[sullen gull]

Although, imo, it can be all too easy to "copy" and mimic when using as a strong reference. Imo, take those references and try to do "your own" things

[wispy osprey]

All stations can rotate collecting different items

[coral marsh]

Yea ofc

[rich shoal]

im planning to use smart splitters for that

[sullen gull]

All righty, reaper pepper wings consumed and ready to head back to the hole and Consume some resources! 😏

[cunning glade]

okay so we are def ocing the refinery's for pasta

[wispy osprey]

Mass refineries take up so much space

[coral marsh]

Yea they do

[cunning glade]

fucking hell

[coral marsh]

I have about 60 down at my nuclear base and my god, takes up more space than the 300 constructors

[cunning glade]

i need 1154 refs

[coral marsh]

Jesus what for

[cunning glade]

30 pasta a min

[coral marsh]

Nuclear pasta?

[sullen gull]

OVERCLOCKING! 😏

[kindred lava]

Question for yall Pioneers. Should I do packaged nitrogen gas or a fluid train? I have the resources for both but am not sure what would get me more product

[coral marsh]

Nuclear pasta doesn't need refineries though right? I didnt need any for my nuclear pasta

[cunning glade]

?????

pure

[wispy osprey]

Package and send, receive and unpack

[coral marsh]

Oh ofc pure copper

[wispy osprey]

It's so so much more than a fluid freight right now

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=YiiIspKdJUTeJaj9APLj

[wispy osprey]

I wish 1.2 came out tomorrow

[cunning glade]

i need 15k copper even with pure

i dont wanna see without

[coral marsh]

Damn

[oak nymph]

Yeah I just build 24 it's so massive for nothing

[wispy osprey]

They also take a decent amount of time to belt and pipe

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=d0r9Fi80zAFFHVH2npiJ

this is what it should look like

[solid grail]

[cunning glade]

gonna sloop for full mk1

[inland hazel]

that's a crazy amount of copper

[cunning glade]

i think im gonna do copper factory

then train it too the factory for pasta but also seems smarter too train the powder

[coral marsh]

I just used mk5/6 belts 20 smelters 2 constructors and 1 cyclotron. I made 100 easy for one stage 1000 easy for the next stage

[cunning glade]

thats the lame way

also no coupons

[inland hazel]

kinda relieved that heavy copper modular frames aren't a thing

you would end up being tortured (more) otherwise

[cunning glade]

tbh 50 hmf was easy

leaves me 20 left that arent used in pasta

[coral marsh]

Gee, thanks. I personally love cyclotrons, so I actually have 64 down across my base, 32 at ny nuclear base and 32 at my fuel gen base

[cunning glade]

the particle things?

[coral marsh]

Yes

Particle accelerators/cyclotrons

[cunning glade]

havent used them yet

hyped for them

gonna need 60 of them

[coral marsh]

They are awesome

[cunning glade]

i assume so most machines are made really well

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[coral marsh]

They sound amazing

[sullen gull]

Just wish there was mirrored versions

[coral marsh]

I wish there was an option to mirror blueprints

[coral marsh]

Personally, I wish the particle accelerator was 1 massive, really long loop that goes around the map that requires multiple build stages but had multiple inputs and outputs

Im talking like, a 4 or 5 kilometer diameter

[oak nymph]

Will my hypertube works if it clip

[coral marsh]

Yea they do dw

You can go through floors using them its really weird

[sullen gull]

Would be a bit more 'realistic' no?

[coral marsh]

Would be far more realistic

Irl, a particle accelerator is actually 10 kilometers in diameter

[sullen gull]

Though, that could just be product of avaliable engineering

[coral marsh]

Problem is though, irl they consume a fucking shit ton more power, actual Terwatts of energy near petawatts

So if they where remade into an irl version, we would need a significantly more powerful power production machine

[oak nymph]

Thanks

[coral marsh]

One that generates over 500Gw each

Half a Tw or 500 thousand Megawatts

[oak nymph]

I buildintone heck long of hypertube hope it's going to Worth it

[coral marsh]

As long as the boosters are powered, you're fine

[oak nymph]

Can I put a entrance on each side so I can go both way

[sullen gull]

*entrances

[coral marsh]

Yes

[coral marsh]

Well yea but most people use the entrances as boosters so

[oak nymph]

It's takes so much copper sheet I need to wait for the dimensional depot

[solid grail]

Crazy, but they can’t really store that power or use it for the accelerator, right?

[coral marsh]

Huh?

[oak nymph]

And irl it takes a lot of time to set up and produce almost nothing

[coral marsh]

Yea i know

Im aware of the basic things surrounding a particle accelerator

Im just merely sharing what'd id have preferred to be in the game

[solid grail]

Ohh, are you talking about the game, or irl. 😂

[coral marsh]

Im talikg about a new power production machine, if we had an irl like particle accelerator in the game, we would need something thay steadily produces far more power than a typical nuclear reactor

Irl they only use about 200 Megawatts but in game, a normal cyclotron will consume 5 times that much for a basic recipe like creating diamonds, so if we had an irl like particle accelerator in game then going off of the power consumption rules the game has, then we would need to be able to produce full and multiple Terawatts of power to run the machine

[solid grail]

Yeah, fair using the game’s power rules, an irl scale accelerator would need insane power.

[coral marsh]

Yup

Im thinking at least 5 or 8 Terawatts of power

Thats why id thought of giving the entire build, multiple I/O ports, like, 20 input and 20 output ports, half of each being fluid

[solid grail]

Makes sense at that scale.

[coral marsh]

yee

[stone moth]

Does all fiscmas stuff go away after the event ends, or do you keep it

[coral marsh]

the major problem would be if you wanted it running at 250% clock speed and max sloops, lets say ti'd consume 10 Terwatts of power, that'd be 130 Terawatts at max power. an insane amount of energy

[solid grail]

Yeah, I just finished my coal power plant and unlocked tractors. I’m going to build a steel factory now. 😂

[coral marsh]

fari enough

[solid grail]

Cant imagine 130 Terawatts.

[coral marsh]

i can

[solid grail]

Everything you build will stay i think.

[coral marsh]

but it is an insane amount of energy

[stone moth]

will the mam tree go away

[coral marsh]

bear in mind, the total power output of every nuclear reactor on the planet, doesn't exceed 400 Gigawatts

1 nuclear reactor without mods in satisfactory will produce 2.5 Gw

250 will produce 625Gw and with a specific mod, that many will produce 6.25Tw

[solid grail]

ficsmas research in the mam disappears from the menu ye

[solid grail]

250 is insane.

[coral marsh]

it's my project, 250 reactors

[solid grail]

wow

[coral marsh]

i honestly wanna go for 500 since i have the reactor power mod so i can produce 12.5Tw, but i also am not in the mood to double down on the entire base

i've already sunk almost 100 hours into 250 reactors and i'm gonna need another 50-80 to complete it

[solid grail]

😂 understandable

[sullen gull]

You'll keep items already made, it will just stop producing

[stray summit]

truly a space elevator (im building even more till the game wont let me)
#design-and-architecture

im LGIO'ing it

btw coffeestain how high can you go till ada kills you

specifically how many maxed out elevators can i make

found it

[somber olive]

does anyone know any reasons as to why my game is crashing either right when i open it or try to load into a world

havent played in a long time and neither my old worlds or a new world work

[leaden turret]

if nobody responds with a suitable answer, check #1038092680493801533

[stray summit]

alright so whoever wants it:
it takes 10 maxed out elevators to hit the killzone

[sullen gull]

Best bet would be to check %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\Crashes, look in the latest folder and check the FactolryGame.log. Scroll to the bottom to find the crash reason.

If on PC that is....

[somber olive]

it says could not decompress shader group with Oodle

[sullen gull]

Actually, there is a question ... do console users have any way to check logs?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> / @north cloud just noticed that crash log location isn't mentioned in #faq alongside the saves, photos, and blueprints paths

[zenith sage]

I'm starting to wish there were some kind of splitter/merger side "blockers", so the blueprints won't connect to something they shouldn't have...

[leaden turret]

looking at trees.

[sullen gull]

Preform a video driver update recently?

[somber olive]

somewhat recently

i think there is a new driver though so ill dl that and check

[sullen gull]

Could either see if there may be a more recent driver, or possibly roll back?

[leaden turret]

can also try studio drivers

[sullen gull]

Though, to be fair, not 100% sure what oodle is

[fluid crow]

maybe you need to delete shaders

[sullen gull]

Or also maybe change the shader cache to unlilmited 🤷‍♂️

[somber olive]

pretty sure its unreal engines shader decompression

[sullen gull]

@acoustic tapir Damn it, I want some ramen now! 😛

[sullen gull]

Also, it wouldn't hurt to do a file verification as well imo

[somber olive]

yeah i did that already

unfortunately the driver update didnt do anything

[sullen gull]

Did you do a clean install? Also, may not hurt to backup blueprints/saves/screenshots and reinstall 🤷‍♂️

[fluid crow]

try turning off pre cache shaders in steam then delete shader folder for game then tum it back on

[somber olive]

launched the game in dx11 and it worked

[fluid crow]

since it sounds related to shaders

[somber olive]

i swear that is always the solution

[sullen gull]

Were you on DX12 or vulkan before?

[somber olive]

it likely defaults to dx12

[sullen gull]

Using any mods by chance?

[somber olive]

nope

[fluid crow]

because it's not using your pre cache shaders anymore probably

[plucky plank]

how do i fix fluid pipes from slushing backwards

[sullen gull]

Keep the pipes fulll

[solid grail]

Probably corrupt shader cache.

[sullen gull]

If you're trying to run a straight "deadhead" manifold, don't. Put your fluids in a loop. Either feed from both ends and distrobuted throughout if using >1 extractor, or, if only 1, provide a "loopback"

[plucky plank]

ill send a picture of it

[sullen gull]

"loop back" fyi: #screenshots message

[plucky plank]

oh ight

[sullen gull]

Also note the junction direction

Welds on top and bottom, not on the sides.

[plucky plank]

so theres priority for the bottom of a junction if placed that way?

[sullen gull]

@plucky plank how much is coming out of those refineries?

Also, what're you making?

[plucky plank]

lemme check

[woven fog]

Does anyone here who plays on Steam Deck have a controller layout that supports the infinite nudge mod? I have built one but wondering if anyone has a layout I can compare it to, to see if it might be less complicated than the one I made. Right now, my setup is using K&M (that closely matches Coffee Stain’s official gamepad layout) with an action set for Nudge Controls.

[plucky plank]

im making 22.4 plutonium fuel rods/min

the 1008 sulfuric acid/min goes into non fissile uranium blenders

[sullen gull]

I have never tried IN on the steamdeck. But I know on PC, it can be tricky as there are some times where the nudge direction changes depending on what side of the part you are on

[sullen gull]

So, imo, sloshing happens when pipes are not full. and, In long straight manifolds like that, typically it gets worse as you go towards the end of the manifold. What happens is when a pipe segment isn't completely full, it kills the flow rate to the next pipe. When you keep fluids in a loop, it seems that this allows the "main manifold [feed line]" to stay full, and so long as demand is not greater than the supply, the main line should remain full and provide an evenly distributed "pressure" to each machine.

[woven fog]

Well, good to know it’s a pain in the arse on either side lol. I have been playing for 700 hours before I finally broke down and attempted a few mods. And now I’ve wasted all day fiddling with them when I could have just been enjoying my game 😭🤭😝

[south canyon]

Why does Satisfactory display as factorygamesteam?

(See activity)

[sullen gull]

There are, however, arguments against that I believe. But those "principles" have served me extremely well in every build.

[white dawn]

Because that's the name of the EXE file (if you're playing on the Steam storefront, at least)

[oak nymph]

Can something bad happen to me while in hypertube?

[sullen gull]

I was at about 2.5~3k before mods. Mostly because I got tired of doing curves/circles by hand 😛 . I will say though, I don't know if I could lilve without Infinite Zoop, Infinite Nudge, and Curve builder any more 🤣

[south canyon]

FactoryGameSteam-Win64-Shipping.exe

[south canyon]

Afaik no

You can get stuck in a loop but rejoining works to exit

[leaden turret]

a friend can prank you and get you stuck in a loop

[oak nymph]

I don't have friends

[white dawn]

That's in Engine/Binaries/Win64, yes, but there's also FactoryGameSteam.exe in the root install folder

[leaden turret]

hermits unite! 😛

[sullen gull]

I mean, it "could" shoot you out with enough velocity that is damages you. Or, I have seen some where people make complcatied loops and get stuck. But, fauna can't hurt you. Don't recall about Gas or Radiation.

[fluid crow]

I've been having good luck with pipes staying full coming out of the manifold at a 45 up

[sullen gull]

What is this word you speak of? 🤔 😏

[woven fog]

Solidarity 🤘

[leaden turret]

they decided to make a factory game before deciding to call it satisfactory

[sullen gull]

So long as you have enough headlift, you can run pumbing all sorts of ways.

[south canyon]

On macOS the window is displayed as FactoryGameSteam-Win64-Shipping.exe, which is weird because that's not what it displays as under Linux in DRP

[plucky plank]

by loop, do you mean i connect the pipe network into one large circle/whatever shape then have a junction on one of the corners and feed the output from that junction? even putting a pump there aswell?

[solid grail]

On macos it’s just the internal executable name being shown

[fluid crow]

it's pretty level with the source but the pipe does have to be full for the water to go over the small rise (I'm guessing)

[woven fog]

Those are the three that made me finally break down. Why Infinite Nudge has to be so complicated for keymapping is beyond me. I LOVE building and imagine I’ll still be building long after I have reason to actually play the game anymore 🥹

[sullen gull]

So, firstly, remember, Pumps are "primarily" only for headlift (pushing fluids up). The also can be used to sort of "direct" flow, but that's a bit more tricky foo than needed imo.

[sullen gull]

It's the extra keys for rotating on Yaw Pitch and Roll 😛

[sullen gull]

Secondly, It can be "looped" a varity of different ways. Typically, my favorite "style" is very similar to the first suggestion for pllumbing on the Coal Generation page:

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[sullen gull]

But, if you have enough supply with a single pipe (Mk1 or Mk2), a simple "loopback" like I showed before can suffice in my experience.

[oak nymph]

Can it make me stop if I go up and lose a lot of velocity

[plucky plank]

Ok i looped the pipes and now its flowing properly i think

thanks bro

[cunning glade]

What all does one need unlocked too do nuclear power

[sullen gull]

Yeah, give it a bit of time of course. Sometimes fluid issues can "sneak up" on you. Especially after "pre-filling", and by the time it shoulld be "balanced", there could be flow issues.

[cunning glade]

Like perfectly

[sullen gull]

Up to tier 8

IF you want to go completely clean.

[cunning glade]

So won't need anything in t9?

[sullen gull]

You can start it before hand, but you won't be able to handle waste until later.

[cunning glade]

Cuz I may do uranium and rocket fuel at once tbh

[sullen gull]

I mean, Mk6 belts ARE nice imo...

But, depending on size of the plant and how you may want to section off or whatever, could probably get away with using mk5 and below.

[solid grail]

Mk1 the best for nuclear power plant

[plucky plank]

For my plant i started it 100 hours ago and i only just unlocked mk6 belts

[cunning glade]

Size would be all of the uranium

[plucky plank]

Just aslong as you remember to mark down what belts need changing you could go with mk5 temporarily

[sullen gull]

You could help me do this one: #screenshots message 🤣

[cunning glade]

Okay so I will wait till t9 or whatever for nuclear

[sullen gull]

Imo, it just helps organize and "section" better as you have all the options open. Especially since with a nuke plany that big, things like Quickwire are in "astronomical" quantities 🤷‍♂️

[fickle locust]

It's crazy how much time passes between "I think I'm almost done with these supercomputers" and "I'm actually done with this supercomputers"

[cunning glade]

So real

[sullen gull]

Shiieeeet, Zoned in ... what even is time?

[oak nymph]

And you get a message "you've been playing for 4hours"

[sullen gull]

My worst was when I noticed the "You've been playing for 22 hours"

[solid grail]

😂

[oak nymph]

How

[solid grail]

No afk?

[sullen gull]

And then I went looking for some Ficsit Bottled water they promised. Have to say I was a bit miffed when I couldn't find anything I could actually drink.

[sullen gull]

None. I became admittedly addicted very hard core. Coupled with already having bad insomnia, holiday week with ample time off, Yeeeeeah bad juju for me 😒

[solid grail]

[hallow flicker]

Or good juju, depending on how you look at it

[fickle locust]

Actually you know what's great
I chose to do the supercomputers with the battery alt
Now I realized there wasn't fuel around for my drone port to send the supercomputers out
Except... eyes batteries hungrily

[zenith shard]

hey guys, any advice on how to get better? ;-;

im feeling very overwhelmed....

[sullen gull]

I mean, it scratches a "creative" itch something fierce. Never been diag'd with anything, But I wouldn't be suprised 🤷‍♂️

[hallow flicker]

Same

[sullen gull]

It's very easy to do so. Imo, start with small goals. Going massive and trying to build big can be enticing, but can get overwhelming very quickly.

[zenith shard]

idk I hope I won't quit the game then D:

[hallow flicker]

Play… and don’t hurry. Enjoy letting the music get stuck in your head.
Go exploring if you get tired of making factories.

[fickle locust]

I know this won't sound encouraging, but just do stuff. Every new thing you unlock, build the production chain from start to end. Even if it's dumb and the math is totally off, do machine into machine into machine. You'll internalize the steps and that forms your baseline for making much bigger projects

[sullen gull]

Be more concerned with starting out with one machines worth of an item. It may seem like getting 1000 of x item is taking forever, but that's because you're watching paint dry 🤣 . Go explore, decorate, play with all the tools/parts to build. You don't ever really "loose" anything in this game except time and items only when you sink or trash them.

[solid grail]

I follow along a good playthrough with explanations, it really helps me understand the game fast.

[sullen gull]

I can say, no matter what ADA says, there is no achievement for speed running other than bragging rights. The game is meant to be "chill" and at your own pace.

[fluid crow]

you're doing great.. now get back to work

[fickle locust]

Ok please please please let this train have batteries and electromagnetic control rods
If it does we're actually set

[hallow flicker]

The train will have what you set it up to have. This is the way.

[sullen gull]

This is the way

[solid grail]

🤯

[sullen gull]

Uh oh. What'd you do?

[solid grail]

Understand the way.

[fickle locust]

Whoops I should have set the train correctly

This explains a lot. Now everything will work correctly

[hallow flicker]

The way loops into the door into the window. Consume.

This is the way.

[tired cypress]

They should change the funny messages on the "you've been playing for N hours" to just "are you okay?" or "bruh" once it passes like 16

[sullen gull]

"It's been 36 hours, We are sending a Ficsit Psychology team to assess your well being"

[hallow flicker]

Mine never gets that high lately, because the game crashes a few times every hour.

[sullen gull]

Or I am reloading

[hallow flicker]

The crashes are definitely more frequent than they ever have been. I’ve done all of the standard stuff… and nothing helps. So… I’ll just put up with it, and reload… and hope future updates reduce crashes instead of making them more frequent.

[sullen gull]

Are you by chance working on bigger builds as well as utilizing the blueprint designer a lot more?

[hallow flicker]

Yes.

And I actually made an elevator. So… that’s plenty of crash potential

[sullen gull]

That's where I started noticing it. Though, admittedly a bit more with using the Mega blueprint designer mod as well. Main reason I use the Uobject counter mod, so I can know when to save and reload.

[hallow flicker]

It’s most often around the place where I have a few sushi belts going through a line of lots of smart or programmable splitters.

I suspect that’s the most likely suspect

Suspect is sus

[tranquil zinc]

are there any other ways to light buildings? Ceiling and wall light feels harsh and too bright

[white dawn]

If you have Global Illumination / Lumen enabled, the other main option is using signs; remove text, set emission high.

Though they don't light as well with default engine config nowadays as they did pre-1.0

[tranquil zinc]

cause this is too bright #screenshots message

[white dawn]

(If you don't have GI/Lumen enabled, they'll still look cool; signs can make for great decoration regardless. But they won't actually light things without GI)

[tranquil zinc]

signs? wdym?

[white dawn]

You can adjust their brightness with Light Control Panels fwiw; I'll usually knock 'em down a few notches

[sullen gull]

#1430766583294460025 message

Or, better yet, #streams-and-videos message

[tranquil zinc]

thanks, will look into it

[oak nymph]

Can someone show me a recipe to make the most amount of Turbo fuel with 600 crude oil I'm at phase 4

[white dawn]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="signs+as+lights"+AND+"interior"

[sullen gull]

Try it out in Satisfactory Tools or Satisfactory Modeler on Steam

[white dawn]

1333.3333/min: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=QAQhHFN0WDppJUztnyRb (will have to switch to the tab once the UI loads)

[oak nymph]

I tried it but I don't know which alt to put if I put them all it use the converter which I don't have and can't have yet

[sullen gull]

Remove the "conversion" alts recipes

[white dawn]

(er, or this one with the non-Packaged diluted loop: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=zul65qcEHqD6IUvExYGZ )

[oak nymph]

I don't know which one it is

[white dawn]

Easiest with that just to disable SAM in the Inputs tab. :)

[sullen gull]

Sec, I don't use tools, so it'll take me a sec.

[white dawn]

(Or disable the Converter building)

Once you get into actual Tier 9 factories you've gotta actually start disabling recipes if sftools starts converting when you don't want it to, alas. :) But until then, disabling SAM or the Converter will do the trick

[sullen gull]

The ones that say like Caterium (Copper) under Base Recipies

[oak nymph]

Chill aoocalyptech did it

[oak nymph]

Thanks I will do that I can make so much power plus I could package some for jetpack and ammo

[subtle swallow]

is there a way to increate world players from 4 to a 4+

[tranquil zinc]

tried using them, no matter what I change it stays the same

[leaden turret]

on pc yes, on console no

[white dawn]

Huh, odd. The lights are only connected to the power grid via the control panel, right?

[subtle swallow]

ok how. i cant find out how

[tranquil zinc]

4 lights are interconnected to the panel, which is connected to a pole for electricity

[leaden turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Sessions_with_more_than_4_players_(PC_only)

[subtle swallow]

the files arent in there. saved isnt there

[oak nymph]

I need a base of 1600 empty canister to start the chain tho

[leaden turret]

?

[subtle swallow]

in Factory game the files consist of: Binaries, Content, and Plugins

[leaden turret]

you're looking in the wrong folder

[subtle swallow]

nerp

[white dawn]

See my second graph; since you're in Phase 4 you've got access to the Blender version which doesn't require the packaging loop

[subtle swallow]

where do i look.

[white dawn]

For reference, you actually need far fewer canisters than you might think for the packaging loop. You can do them in "closed" loops of 2x Packager + 1x Refinery, and each loop only needs like 20-30 canisters at most

[leaden turret]

where the wiki says to look.

[white dawn]

But since you're in Phase 4 anyway, I'd recommend using the Blender version where you don't even have to worry about that. :)

[leaden turret]

those folders are in the install path, which is not where the wiki says to look.

[white dawn]

Honestly no clue. Do they at least change color if you alter the color on there?

[zenith shard]

okay guys I just progressed, finally got some extra coal generators :)

[subtle swallow]

ok so how can i find %LOCALAPPDATA%

[zenith shard]

and I am automating rotors now!

[leaden turret]

paste it into the address bar in your file explorer

[zenith shard]

glorious day x)

[sullen gull]

@oak nymph Just cause I wasn't doing anything else 🤣 #screenshots message

[subtle swallow]

takes four flippin days to work on it

[tranquil zinc]

I found out, I connected the wrong one. There is a specific connection for the lights

[fickle locust]

Another hour that I'm still a few minutes away from supercomputers

[zenith shard]

how to get anti gas mask?

[leaden turret]

uwot?

[fickle locust]

Turns out you need to run alclad sheets to the station to build batteries

[dense violet]

!wikisearch gas mask

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=gas+mask

[dense violet]

praise the wiki, love the wiki

[sullen gull]

Consume the Wiki

[zenith shard]

well tbf I didn't know it existed

[leaden turret]

-# edit the wiki

[white dawn]

Ahh, okay. :D Been awhile since I've used 'em. So yeah, the official "lights" are indeed a bit much often. If you do have the hardware for Global Illumination, a lot of folks do really like using signs for lighting though, and it can be a lot more flexible

[zenith shard]

wait looking at the wiki is not spoiler?

[dense violet]

and now you do 🙂

[leaden turret]

it can be

[white dawn]

Personally I think that GI makes the world look, in general, way too dark no matter what you do, but a lot of folks like it. :)

[dense violet]

it can be, but you asking is also a spoiler right? 🙂

[zenith shard]

okay fair enough lol

[leaden turret]

-# GI still means "Gastro-Intestinal", to me

[dense violet]

try not to look at dif pages I guess? or just keep unlockign thigns in the MAM or HUB. Thats where you unlock everything

[sullen gull]

And can also take a lot of "tweaking" with the INi for it to actually look "good"

[white dawn]

The world looks awfully dark from inside there, to be fair.

[oak nymph]

Ok

[subtle swallow]

should game.ini have this in it
[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager]
TotalNetBandwidth=500000
MaxDynamicBandwidth=120000
MinDynamicBandwidth=100000

[leaden turret]

no idea, I've not needed to edit it

[subtle swallow]

got it

[zenith shard]

#screenshots message

opinions guys? :)

[placid stirrup]

Those certainly are machines with logistics between them

[sullen gull]

Very 'floaty' 😏

[fickle locust]

You're doing the right thing. There's no wrong way when you're learning. Do stuff, encounter problems, solve problems, that's the way the game works

[zenith shard]

hmmm I thought it wasn't floaty enough xd

#screenshots message

you have to be kidding me!!!

[solid grail]

🤨

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message 😭

[placid stirrup]

That's rough buddy

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ Practice makes perfect or something right? 🤣

[fickle locust]

This is even more true than I thought, I'm just going back to my rubber and plastic factory for the first time in a while and realized the whole thing is running off 100% clock rate oil nodes. I have so much extra headroom here

[zenith shard]

WTF that looked so beautiful\

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message Go big or go home! 🤣 (Kidding a bit)

[fickle locust]

I'm using 480 crude oil total and have like 1200 each plastic and rubber coming out

This area could have 1200 crude oil running through it and all it would take is some minor pipe rerouting

[sullen gull]

Nooice

[rain dune]

Damn I really have to use multiple power lines to make sure the electricity is distributed equally

[sullen gull]

No, not really.

[dense violet]

not even a little, why would you think that?

[sullen gull]

I mean, it can make it easier to manage, but there is no "path" or direction for power. Unless you want to do seprate grids for any reason, just conected it all to one. And just make sure comsunption doesn't exceed capacity

[rain dune]

I mean my cement line is like 300m long

[dense violet]

so? it'll just take the power it needs

[sullen gull]

Doesn't matter for power

It can be all the way across the map and it would still be the "same" power.

[fickle locust]

Hell yeah 75 supercomputers fully online

[spare cradle]

Or, you can shunt the poles of streetlights into the ground for lower lights.

#screenshots message The start of my blueprint building... I really do need to start on turbofuel ;-;

[zenith shard]

is trucking a good idea?

[dense violet]

you have to plan factory locations and terrain around it for the most part - if yo udo that? sure

most people at teh start of the game dont bother I think because there's lots else to learn

[dim flint]

It can be

[zenith shard]

getting resources around are so stressful omfg

[dense violet]

jsut belt thigns on early then 🙂

long belts are fine if you're learning

[zenith shard]

im regretting it really bad

that I didn't make my factory around 20m above ground

[dense violet]

Why? just build multiple floors

[zenith shard]

dude

you're a genius 🤔 didn't thought of it

[dense violet]

3D solutions for 3D game 🙂
you have basically infinite flat space no matter where you build

except for caves I guess, but then that's a you problem 😛

[zenith shard]

I can make the first floor for logistics and storage

[dense violet]

sure 🙂

[zenith shard]

and the upper floors for production

🤔

[dense violet]

I often use the bottom floor of a large factory as a train delivery station

[zenith shard]

it even translates well to late game then!

but anyway gotta stop playing, getting headaches now

[dense violet]

xD don't burn out 🙂

[zenith shard]

god this is such a cool game

[dense violet]

this is a good planner, mightg help in general? takes a bit of practice but is super good https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[zenith shard]

yeah... I spent 17 hours already within a week

[dense violet]

rookie numbers.gif

[strong fiber]

Burn out hitting hard rn as i build this nuclear plant

[dense violet]

😛

pace yourself 🙂

[zenith shard]

well 17 hours is literally my whole gameplay time x)

im veeery new

and this genre feels very new to me

[spare cradle]

Now with my shabby constructed building to make blueprints, it's time to make blueprints... Ofc

[dense violet]

advice

one, treat the milestones like a good tutorial to a sandbox game at the end

two, just assume everything you build the first time will be terrible and you'll realise yo ucoluld have done things differently. That's normal and how you learn

[zenith shard]

this game made me realized that engineers in real life are BEAST

[rain dune]

I got fibre matrial

[fluid crow]

hopefully not in your eyes

[sullen gull]

Don't breath it in either...

[dense violet]

society rests in the hands of civil engineers it's true
also thank your local hydro engineers

fluid dynamics are awful

[sullen gull]

Unless you're in Flint MI 🤣

[dense violet]

Politicians fault there. Infrastructure in the US doesn't get touched until people die

[sullen gull]

In WAY to many places. It's ridiculous. 😒

[rain dune]

Sometimes I mess up my factory by not realizing my conveyor belt goes in another than where it is suppose to go.

[dense violet]

practice and planning is part of hte learning process 🙂

[sullen gull]

And mistakes are awesome... because you can always just say* F it 😏

[hot burrow]

quick question, im using satisfactory modeler on steam but, if i have a node that is 4.5 of a bulding and i overclock it and it says "112 1/2" and now it says 4, does that mean one building is overcocked to 112% or half of the 4, or all of them

[sullen gull]

It will be 112.5 for the clock rate for all four machines

A "trick" I use to figure out the least amount of machines needed is to just overclock to 250. If not a whole number, I just hit the minus once and it automatically rounds the machine number

[dusky hedge]

what you can do is separate it into 2 nodes, one that is overclocked efficiently and the other non overclocked, not necessary but can be helpful later

[sullen gull]

I personally don't like that it displays fractions though. Just want it all to be decimal rounded to the ten thousands.

[sullen gull]

I think they were using "node" in the sense of a "recipe block" in modeler.

[dusky hedge]

yep, thats how i intended it

[sullen gull]

or, a "node" in the chain

[hot burrow]

sorry scratch mentatlity (the coding software on webbrowser)

[sullen gull]

Imo it's more "effecient" to clock evenyly across the machines. No separating needed 🤷‍♂️

[hot burrow]

so if one of them says 4.5 can i just have 5 factories and one of them at 50%?

[sullen gull]

With the machines at 100%?

[hot burrow]

and another question, how do i set precetages

[dusky hedge]

@sullen gulllets say i have 8 machines overclocked at 125%, i could separate it into 4 at 150% and 4 ar 100%,
i woldnt bother for something so simple but with more complicated numbers it saves me fidgiting with balance when im trying to build a factory

[hot burrow]

everything at 100% except the 5'th one

[bleak lion]

what do people use to make those graphs i always see here?

[hot burrow]

dont answer this

[hot burrow]

satsifactory modler on steam

[sullen gull]

No, I'm just saying you didn't set any clocking in modeler?

If not, then yes, 4 machines at 100% and one at 50%

[bleak lion]

oh cool thank you!

[hot burrow]

yeah no clocking

bro doing factories without t3 belts is hardd

im starting to spaghetti with mergers and splitters lol

manifolds to the rescue

[sullen gull]

I don't view it like that. I just look at total input of item (Or maybe total output, but I usually work backwards) and just figure out the lleast amount of machines to make said amount. Use modeler to set whatever max clock rate, and then copy paste among the machines. Also, for almost everything, I tend to merge in the center of the machines instead of manifolding to just one end.

Like, for max pure copper from a pure node, I don't remember how many refineries atm, but i know it works out to like a perfect four sections of like 750 or something . So can do it with mk5 belts.

[hot burrow]

how can i accurate move a conveyer lift on my constructer tower without deleting it over and over before the conveyr is nice

[sullen gull]

Not sure what you mean. Could try some screenshots in #design-and-architecture

[dusky hedge]

we might be talking about different things, if power is not an issue then minimum machines nd max overclock works, but early i like to make it efficient.
wil post an example

[sullen gull]

And, I've never understood what "complcated numbers" are tbh 😛

[hot burrow]

there i sendeded it

[hot burrow]

satsifatory is like my accounting class that i took ages ago

just simple math

but alot of it

[bright sage]

How many refiners and fuel generators can I run on 2 normal and 1 pure oil node?

[dusky hedge]

anything that doesnt easily come close into 150, 200 or 250% when divided by machine number easily at first glance

[hot burrow]

give me 2 seconds

[dusky hedge]

@sullen gull
#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ This is definately more of a "second playthrough" mentailty maybe. But, I just go "big" on power right out the bat, so it's never an issue for me.

Like, on my second playthrough, as soon as I unlocked solid biomass, I already had like 4 sloops and some sam, and I get slooping unlocked early. Build a two story Biomass farm of usually 12 burners, two floors. And sloop biomass production so I have to gather much less. And then go hearty on coal in the lake just north of the grass lands, and then big oil power, etc. Again, i like to explore and collect early and make sure power isn't ever an issue any more. (Sorry for wall)

[hot burrow]

so with heavy oil alt and diluted fuel you can have 64 gens

with just a fuel recipe you can have 16 gens

with just heavy oil you can have 21.33 gens (26.67 refinerys)

[bright sage]

@hot burrow and thats connecting all 3 nodes then? And I dont have those other 2 recipes yet either. So its just regular fuel or residual fuel.

[hot burrow]

uhh

i would get heavy oil before you do anything

and then when you unlock blender rebuild for that

[sullen gull]

Ugh, I hate when I reply in #screenshots 🤣 .....

But, Yeah, i know what you mean, but I don't get why? Just adjust the clock rate to get a whole number of machines and make them all the same clock.

[spare cradle]

#screenshots message Whats going to temporarily take place of my coal gen where Im at still I have my turbofuel generator up

[hot burrow]

do yo uwant me to dm you the image

holy spelling errors

[sullen gull]

Noo, no, sorry, i Was just about to respond lol. Was just into the convo on "build logics", of whatever 😛

[hot burrow]

i see

is there a way to automate biomass stuff

[leaden turret]

semi: yes
fully: only with mods

[lyric patio]

Spam e and chainsaw

[sullen gull]

There "is" a way to make it so that less is more when it comes to gathering.

[hot burrow]

how much biomass is in a satisfactory world

[dusky hedge]

of course you can, but when designing it shows more clearly youir options to over or under clock

[sullen gull]

But, it requires some heafty exploration in the very beginnning

[dusky hedge]

the biggest issue i have with modeler is that you cant set a static output of items

drives me nuts

so it changes youir numbers constantly

[sullen gull]

Personally, I even feel that if you're going to over clock at all, it's moot to underclock just one as I don't feel that any sort of "power trade off" ios worth it.

Like, an example would be fore extractors.. we know that a typical CG plant with 8 gens takes 3 extractors, but, if you wanted to be frugal with power, 4 @90% is more "economical"

[sullen gull]

What you you mean?

You can

Just click on the output icon (or input)

And set "part limit"

[dusky hedge]

now i see where we are talking past each other
the game starts by at 100% and you assume to add one and underclock, but to save space you can take away 1 or 2 or 3 to over clock
my method makes it so you can see within one machine the overclock

[hot burrow]

is there an achivemnt for cutting every tree down

[dusky hedge]

ie when i adjust the entire outpost from another node, it will calculate how many machines i should have overclocked and then have 1 machine carrying the balance

i can easily see then numbers that are easy to adjust at first glance

[dusky hedge]

part limit is to set the maximum, i want to set a defined number not "anything bellow this number is acceptable"

if i want 5 super computers per minute, i dont want my software to say how about 4.6 and calculate everything assuming youi said ok

[sullen gull]

So, as a small example here: #screenshots message I just do it like that and now I know that I need two machines @ 208.3334 🙂

[sullen gull]

What number are you looking at? Under the machine?

[dusky hedge]

ill rephrase it, is there a way to select an output number and have it static, so everyhting will calculate to get that number?

items per minute

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

LIke that?

[dusky hedge]

limit is maximum, not static

[sullen gull]

Also, if you have a building in the middle, use a priority splitter

[spare cradle]

I need 1,080m^3 oil input to have my turbofuel-

[sullen gull]

Erm, do you have an export you want to send and maybe I can understand better what you're wanting to do?

[sullen gull]

I think that's just the amount of the resource node above the crater lakes 😛

[dusky hedge]

@sullen gull
#screenshots message

this shows its not static

i want 1.9 not 1.67

[proud zodiac]

quick question. Is there a way to elevate something rather than having to place down a platform or something under it to build? If I want to place a platform or splitter in the air

[dusky hedge]

pres h instead of left click then adjust with onscreen keys

doesnt work for everything

[proud zodiac]

That's perfect, thank you

[sullen gull]

Place a prioity splitter between the output of the manufacture and it's detination. Green output to destination, other output to a container.

[spare cradle]

Thats where Im at

[dusky hedge]

its kind of essential when you are placing massive buildings from gound level

[sullen gull]

Howere, this is the main reason I do not set machines to Parts per minute.

Honestly, I would turn that off on everything but miners, extractors, oil stuffs.

[dusky hedge]

because its not static?

[sullen gull]

And then, set that "part limit" and let it caclulate the amount of machines

[spare cradle]

Should I go with one of my harddrives for the chance for diluted fuel or something?

[sullen gull]

No, most likely whatever you have it going to is only consuming 1.67

[wicked nacelle]

There’s no reason to not research a hard drive. There are reasons not to pick an option after though

Not picking locks out the options from the next one

[sullen gull]

And it has no where for it to throw the excess, so it changed the machine output. essentially saying you messed up some math somehere and here's what I can do for ya "slaps hood"

[spare cradle]

The reason why I am hesitant is the harddrives needed for for rocket fuel and ionized fuel

[dusky hedge]

@sullen gullive used similar software for factorio, and you can select key nodes, which if you dont supply hem with what they need it shows red connections as an error that neeeds fixing, modeler just says "well cant do that, not telling what you did wrong but il give yo uthis much instead of what you asked for"

[wicked nacelle]

When you’re ready for that do it but there’s LOTS of hard drives

A good alt recipe is very valuable. More so than the time to go find another hard drive

[sullen gull]

If you ever want, I am totally happy with hopping on a VC and going through it with ya if you want. But, at the end of the day, you're making things more difficult by a: comparing it to factorio, and B: using parts per minute on machines.

[dusky hedge]

if you can show me how to set a static output of items per minute, which is how i start all my factories, id love to learn, but i dont think its possible with modeler

[sullen gull]

That's exactly what I showed you earlier

[dusky hedge]

yyou can only set maximum number of items

in my last screen i showed yo uhow its not static

[sullen gull]

Then I don't understand what you mean by a "static" limit.

[dusky hedge]

statis is unchangable

[sullen gull]

heh, and I explained the issue you're seeing 😛

[dusky hedge]

i say 5 parts per minute it shows me how to get that not how to get 4.6 parts per minute

[sullen gull]

Point is, however you have the rest of the chain setup, you are trying to force it to do math it can't do. You need somewhere for the "excess" to go.

[sullen gull]

You type in 4.6

[dusky hedge]

not at all, im asking it to tell me there is a problem and i need to fix it, not "your fine just as you are, you just get less than you want"

@sullen gullload up any of your outposts , and make one item output static and see if it gives you the same number

[sullen gull]

Mate, I have explained how Here #satisfactory message Here #satisfactory message, and here

[dusky hedge]

not so, look at my screen shot, it contradicts them both

[sullen gull]

Pick one: #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Export yours and dm it to me

[spare cradle]

to produce just the turbofuel... its almost my current powergrid

(With residue plastic on the side why not :D)

... should I go for the version which takes 80 fuel gens or ~53.33-40-32 (Depending on amt of shards)

53.33~ shards, 80 shards, and 96 shards respectively

[dense violet]

really just depends on the layout you want

[hollow onyx]

do power shards increase power exponentionally anymore or no

[spice patio]

Exponential, but with lower multiplier than originally.

[spare cradle]

I just found enough slugs to make the 32 gen layout work

Only 3 purps survived the powershardding

[cunning glade]

i mean i could oc them

[cunning glade]

sloop them

[spare cradle]

:|

[alpine crow]

I sent a picture of my WIP super computer mass production factory. I was wondering what y’all think so far? It’s in screenshots.

[frank ruin]

how could i make a glass floor?

[leaden turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Frame_Structures

[frank ruin]

there is no full frame floor or alternative right?

[leaden turret]

?

there's the roof https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Roofs#Glass

[frank ruin]

sorry, ment like full frame window wall but for floor

[leaden turret]

if by "full frame" you mean "without the dividing line down the middle"

[frank ruin]

oooh yeahyeah

thx

[leaden turret]

anything else will have to wait and see what comes with 1.2, or look at mods

[wispy osprey]

Almost fell asleep reading a ficsit pipeline guide

[hollow brook]

I murdered an elite gas stinger with a tractor. Giant enemy spider vs one single tractor. (Big green cat vs a lawn mower)

[wispy osprey]

VOP/overflow junctions are the key to a successful aluminum plant

I still struggle with certain byproduct and what to actually plan with it

[zenith shard]

hey guys, why do I feel like satisfactory is ltierally work?

[hollow brook]

I wonder

[wispy osprey]

You're the one that decides how much effort goes into designing it.

"100% efficiency" isn't actually necessary when you can continuously produce products from an infinite resource.

Given enough time you'll have what you need

[zenith shard]

yeah but what if its not efficient? the stakeholders are gonna lay me off

[wispy osprey]

It certainly is addictive to try and get as close as possible to max efficiency

[zenith shard]

joking aside, im thinking of it in terms of "do one problem, find another problem, do another problem"

it feels literally, an engineering work

it feels like im doing the exact same thing as my day job

[hollow brook]

I'm like 50 smth hours into my save. Still on tier 3 trying to get things to work better. Just expanded my coal power grid to go around making more dedicated factories. Just tore down my old builds, (what was I even thinking back then???), and made better stuff.

[wispy osprey]

It also frequently leads to burnouts because people tear down inefficient designs and rebuild their better idea just to do it again in the next phase with better belts

[zenith shard]

hmm but isn't that part of the fun though?

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126