satisfactory

[hoary stag]

are screws used throughout the whole game

[dense violet]

nah, the MAM gives you all the fun tools. The hub is ... basically just a control console.

[zenith sage]

Less steps to make stuff and the volume of screws is huge, so less pain with throughput limits/splitting stuff imo

[dense violet]

depends on the recipes you choose 🙂

[glass pagoda]

Hi

[placid stirrup]

They didn't make the toilet operational just to get this comment 😫

[dense violet]

why would a robot ever need the toilet?

[placid stirrup]

Oil leaks

[glass pagoda]

Employee of the month cup or the gold golf cart

Choose your pick

[placid stirrup]

So here I am, doing eeeverything I can, holding ooon to what I am...

Iykyk

[coral marsh]

I quite enjoy the steel screws alt recipe the most. 5 steel beams for 260 screws is a major help as you really just don't need many steel ingots to make the steel beams

[dense violet]

Steel screw + bolted plate + bolted frame!

[coral marsh]

I use the steel screws recipe more than the others

[dense violet]

they combo quite nicely 🙂

[coral marsh]

When I get around to moving my entire base to the desert and have drone ports for all raw materials, im gonna be using steel screws for every screw requiring recipe

[dense violet]

this makes 10.6 frames pm from 36 ppm https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425811234363801732/1425812876182163496/image.png?ex=6960ebb8&is=695f9a38&hm=539c02e1c928d51f9a351babd37101620b3008f06f57af1cfaa6bda1875c1a41&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=450&height=350

[zenith sage]

To me it just sounds like 10 still beams turns into something that mk4 belt can't candle 😅

[dense violet]

no, the steam beams are actually just boxes of screws that the constructor unpacks right before being consumed

[coral marsh]

That desert base is gonna be my new main base where I relocate the hub and build my mass dimensional depots

[coral marsh]

Thats why t5 and t6 belts exist silly

[placid stirrup]

Which desert?

[coral marsh]

Not dune

[placid stirrup]

Rocky

[coral marsh]

West side of the map, not east

I already have a platform down with one of the 3 blueprint designers on it and some power towers.

[zenith sage]

I'm taking my sweet time with everything so after 100h I'm still nowhere near t5 XD

[coral marsh]

Unlock the customizable clock speeds feature if you havent already, you can get the 260 down to a really low 100 or 80 if you really want

For like, 0.8 steel beams

[zealous urchin]

he upped his mewing game

[coral marsh]

Its an insanely efficient alt recipe

[upper gale]

I'm also taking my time, setting things up correctly so it will benefit later

[dense violet]

wellllll , it's not resource efficient like Steel Rod to Screw, but it's extremely compact

I'll throw those resources away for how compact it is though in a heart beat

[zenith sage]

I can't imagine this game without under and over clocking

[upper gale]

I gotta do computers next but it's always a big project for me because I love to cram tons of other production alongside computers, all the other electronic parts

[dense violet]

the whole thing is built around it is why xD

[dense violet]

if you want you can make computers entirely out of caterium and oil? if that helps

[coral marsh]

I made a steel screw factory blueprint, 3 layers of 8 constructors, 260x8=2,080 screws out per layer, 6,240 screws out for the whole build. And it consumes 120 steel beams. My biggest and 2nd most proud blueprint

I may see if I can make it in the mk3 designer though and try for 4 layers of 10 so I can get 2600 screws out per layer at 50 beams in per minute.

[upper gale]

Yeah that's the goal. Last time i was playing, i was trying to get the alts to do that, but rng just wasn't having it even though I was holding recipes there and also collecting a lot of hard drives. I'll have to collect more today

[dense violet]

you want al lthe recipes anyway 🙂

[upper gale]

I don't, I really don't lol

[dense violet]

they are all options - they give great flexibility to builds. Why not have all the paths open to you?

[upper gale]

I simply don't use every option and have a preference to certain things

[dense violet]

You're still going up the tiers, and that's basically a tutorial

once you get to sand box mode and do yoru own projects you'll be much more able to extend your skills and style.

That is if you actually like sandboxes, some people just finish with the game after the phases

[hoary stag]

do satisfactory players start a new file once they finish the tiers or what

[zenith sage]

I'm honestly curious if I'll have the drive to play on after I'm done with all the phases 🤔

[dense violet]

depends what you want out of the game.

I restarted a few times through the tiers
but I do my own projects now after

[placid stirrup]

It was nice being a player in EA, every few updates I'd start a new save

[dense violet]

well, this game is more like minecraft than factorio. Much more about how you feel about mechanics and if you like playing around with them.

[dense violet]

I really do mean that as far as I'm concerned, all the phases are just a tutorial to teach you teh basics.

there's so much room for improvement

[zenith sage]

Huh, so I wasn't crazy when I described this game to a mate as Minecraft, but you min max production

[dense violet]

no it's very minecraft. much like the enderdragon isn't the 'end of minecraft' phase 5 isn't the end of satisfactory

in style if not function anyway

obviously you do very different projects in the games

[wispy osprey]

"I now understand trains!"

Block has conflicting entry types: 🖕

[hoary stag]

i am so cooked for school

[placid stirrup]

Stayed up all night playing?

[hoary stag]

yeah its 5 am and look at my discord profile to see how long ive been playing

[upper gale]

But for others that's the main game. You have to think about the experience of people who haven't completed all phases and consider that's what they're doing and likely will for a good while. And they want to enjoy doing that, not just use it as a tutorial to learn how to have fun afterwards

[hoary stag]

i havent been to school in 3 weeks too this is gonna be awful 😭

[placid stirrup]

That feature is off for you but I believe you

[hoary stag]

oh thats so weird i click on my profile and i see 9 hours thats strange

[dense violet]

I mean it's still set up as a tutorial to teach you all the main mechanics and have basic skill in it

if you're not interested in doing anything after it doesn't stop being an option because of that

[placid stirrup]

The option is to hide it to others but you'll always see it

[hoary stag]

guess i must have changed that a long time ago or something cause i didnt know about that

[dense violet]

the milestones and phaes are not a challenge. You can slap down the dirtiest, spaghettiest and sloppiest of systems w/o any real effort and still push your way through them if that's all that matters to you

brute force without any real effort

[upper gale]

I know, I can brute force through it myself too, but calling it not a challenge is still a stretch for the average playerbase

The phases were created to give at least some challenge

[unkempt blade]

what's the most challenging part that isn't self-inflicted?

I rarely see people saying the basics are too hard (maybe pipes and trains aside) mostly what I see is people deciding they want to do some huge project and getting frustrated

[upper gale]

I'm just saying like, calling the entire game a tutorial is kinda weird and honestly feels like a very shallow and detached comment

Onboarding is the official tutorial

Everything else is just the normal game's content

[unkempt blade]

it kind of is, from there it's a sandbox where you make your own goals after getting stuff introduced through the on-rails progression stuff

[upper gale]

If someone quits after beating the game though there's nothing really wrong with it, many people play games like that, and I'd say it's a cool achievement, like cool- you beat satisfactory. Gamer badge of coolness for ya xD go beat something else if you like or play more of it

I will probably still be playing after beating it though, since I like doing it better each time

[unkempt blade]

it's certainly a time consuming achievement I just don't think it's a difficult achievement

[upper gale]

Like ~100-200h maybe

Well 200+ if it's your first

[zenith sage]

Hmm I wonder if I should finish the remaining 3/4ths of the turbofuel power plant or just wait and rebuild the whole thing after getting to rocket fuel 🤔

[unkempt blade]

build a second plant for rocket fuel when the turbofuel doesn't cut it anymore 😄

[zenith sage]

Is there a better or equally good location for rocket fuel plant as blue crater?

[unkempt blade]

there's lots of spots with multiple oil nodes all next to each other

[wispy osprey]

Why is vertical nudging inconsistent on console. Sometimes it moves up less

[upper gale]

I don't know, but with the scim map you can probably pick out a good spot for your needs

[zenith sage]

Sure, but it'd be nice to have good source of coal and sulfur nearby.. although I'll have to start on the trains before that so that's less of an issue now that I think about it

[upper gale]

Just curious, what button is it for controller?

If it's not a button then welp

[zenith sage]

Speaking of nudging.. miners and oil extractors can't be nudged in vanilla right? (I have a mod so I'm curious)

[wispy osprey]

R1 + directional buttons

Sometimes it goes up half a nudge even though half nudge is off

[upper gale]

Yeah that's kinda odd then that it skips

[rugged shard]

Omd I’m so stupid I just realized that for example 1 smelter can feed 3 constructors and I don’t need a smelter for every constructor

[upper gale]

This is the part where your stuff start to get really efficient

[rain dune]

Hello

[eager harbor]

The person who sends the message after this has to build me oil packing farm

[sterile blade]

Satisfactory is a tutorial game for Factorio

[calm mango]

I just recently figured this

Once it clicked I locked in

[gusty bronze]

2026, obligatory "Satisfactory 2 when?"

[calm mango]

Wait for 1.2 to come out

[gusty bronze]

but I don't want 1.2, I want 2 😄

trains with rocket engines attached to them

flying goats instead of drones

hyper tubes that go to space instead of having to yeet jump

[calm mango]

"Yeah they should rush a sequel before finishing the first game"

[gusty bronze]

they did finish the first game 1.0 was finished

everything after is a bonus

[leaden turret]

1.2 could arrive in at most 6 months.

satwosfactory could arrive in at least 6 years.

[calm mango]

Clearly not if they still got ideas to update

[gusty bronze]

so all games should be abandoned at 1.0?

[calm mango]

Finished=final update

[calm mango]

Bruh YOURE the one saying that

😭😭

[gusty bronze]

I didn't though lol

[leaden turret]

1.0 != finished

[gusty bronze]

version 1 was a finished game, you could play start to end and complete the entire game, giving extra stuff after doesn't mean it wasn't finished at 1.0 lol

[zenith sage]

There are only 2 games in existence that should definitely stop receiving updates

[gusty bronze]

I feel like I'm talking to the marketing team at my job

[calm mango]

#satisfactory message
"I want satisfactory 2"
#satisfactory message
"Satisfactory 1.0 is finished"

[gusty bronze]

still didn't say abandon 1

[calm mango]

So they should split the team and make both half assed?

[mystic plank]

how can i find type of layouts in the wiki?

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Manifold

[rain dune]

What the fuck

[leaden turret]

?

[rain dune]

First time here

And first time playing this game too

[calm mango]

It's a lot less complicated than it looks

[gusty bronze]

just wait till you get a disco ball factory cart

[leaden turret]

or meet johnny

[gusty bronze]

or create a pyramid of ficsmas trees

[rain dune]

After reading it. Yeah I guess that is a cool way to put all the items in one container

[calm mango]

It's not just cool, it's efficient

[leaden turret]

checks notes hasn't been featured on community highlights yet

[gusty bronze]

There will be a lot of logical stuff thats kinda 1+1 = 2, but then when you get further in it's just expanding and multiplying the concept so it becomes 2+2=4=1+1+1+1

[leaden turret]

manifold is for people that want to be space-efficient

load balancing is for people that find math more fun than playing the game

[rain dune]

Oh

[lime kraken]

Can someone explain to me the point of trains, cars, and drones?
Trains and cars require a much more extensive infrastructure, need a lot of space for loading and unloading, and if you want to transport several products from one factory hall to another, this only works to a limited extent—especially if too much of a product is produced.
Drones are very flexible, but they can only fly back and forth between two points, which makes them pretty useless.
The best way to transport goods is actually by belt.
Or am I missing something?

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[gusty bronze]

hey! both can be fun! math + manifolds

[calm mango]

It looks less ugly than 12 trillion conveyors

[rain dune]

Or the cocoon

[leaden turret]

saying anything in satisfactory involves math is like saying candy has sugar

[calm mango]

Which is 12 trillion conveyors..

[rain dune]

Yeah

[leaden turret]

belt go brr
train go choo

[gusty bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1361678888115110059/image.png?ex=6960f3c9&is=695fa249&hm=d27116d4b98cb28e9cec9b41c19cf2b82b3a63f507f277945886cdfdf8246d09

[leaden turret]

featured on community highlights

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=pyramid AND ficsmas

[gusty bronze]

never pay attention to that stuff

to busy doing dumb things in games 😄

[limpid cairn]

its easier to scale up

[clear tartan]

so is it better just to have rails on foundations

[rain dune]

Is the bad puns rule a joke?

[calm mango]

Yes

That way your train isn't going bumpy

[leaden turret]

I have yet to be banned for making puns.

this means either the rule is a joke, or my puns haven't been sufficiently bad.

[limpid cairn]

theres no benefit but its simply better looking and helps building imo

[worthy ruin]

hello i have played it for a while and i am wodering if there is any sorting machines?

[gusty bronze]

sorta, there are 2 methods I've seen used, one is using poles to move trains around, the other is to create highways which trains go on

[clear tartan]

poles?

power poles?

[leaden turret]

define "sorting machine"

[sullen moat]

Where's the redstone!? /s

[gusty bronze]

hah, I've never uploaded rail line pictures, gimmi a sec

[calm mango]

Power poles:

[worthy ruin]

when i try to get rescources to my assembler i want from one container 2 different kind materials to the accembler. evenly

[sullen moat]

... comparators!

[calm mango]

You could use load balancers

[gusty bronze]

#screenshots message

[leaden turret]

@sterile blade is this a sushi thing?

[clear tartan]

did you make it or did you unlock it

[worthy ruin]

hmm so one belt mk1 and other mk2 you mean?

[dense violet]

no look up load balancers on the wiki

[gusty bronze]

you make it, just create a pole blueprint, slap it on the ground and run rail from pole to pole

[calm mango]

Idk I'm more of a manifold girly

[dense violet]

but also, belts will SELF balance over time

[dense violet]

for example, this will evenly feed 120 ore into these 4 smelters https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1456102935988539496/image.png?ex=69610849&is=695fb6c9&hm=ca5f0e295b96534f5e040a67e45060f30061ef761274fa09790aa533935aba10&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=418&height=350

[gusty bronze]

it's messy but is is super cheap and not as time consuming as creating highways, downside is they can get a bit messy

[worthy ruin]

yeaaahhh i got it noww yeah yeah

[calm mango]

Embrace the spaghetti!

[rain dune]

So this game actually uses math for organizing

[calm mango]

Yes

[worthy ruin]

AAAA okay okay i gonna look in to that thank you !

[gusty bronze]

well it's crazy hard to do switching stations with it

[leaden turret]

switching stations?

[gusty bronze]

#screenshots message

[calm mango]

Pasta is fun tho

[leaden turret]

marshaling yards?

[calm mango]

And if you're the one building it you can navigate it yk

[gusty bronze]

I work in a train company, of all the train things I would love to see fixed, it would be this, because it won't work due to the pathing

#screenshots message

[rain dune]

Glad I am studying IT for diploma

[gusty bronze]

do not go in to IT, executives are replacing people with AI not realizing how dumb AI is

[rain dune]

Game coding

[dense violet]

that's because satisfactory runs on static production and consumption , unlike factorio. And thus dynamic pathing is pointless.

Get mods if you want as it is not 'broken'

[rain dune]

That is my focus or toy making

[gusty bronze]

they are being replaced even faster

[eager harbor]

Now u build me oil packing farm

[worthy ruin]

@calm mango SMART SPLITERS THAT WHAT I NEED xD

[rain dune]

Why do I have feeling this game attracts Autistic individuals

[gusty bronze]

yes

[eager harbor]

Ok u get me them

[leaden turret]

🌈 math 🌈

[eager harbor]

[eager harbor]

💯

[gusty bronze]

I mean, look at this grid level distribution, so umf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1307705015904895146/image.png?ex=69610833&is=695fb6b3&hm=4d361f3d03cc336c4a451452ed7f2dcd13a6fe935ee0654256b6ec0e0e8d0ce2

I should make a new world, heard we got train elevators or something equivelent now?

[worthy ruin]

Tilburg heujj

[short root]

Only personal elevators

[rain dune]

Dawg the elevator is expensive as hell

[dense violet]

if you have items automated, which you should, they are free

[gusty bronze]

also for the most part, never unautomate things, they will be used as a part for something else, so it pays to upgrade old stuff

there are a few exceptions to that

[rain dune]

I see

[gusty bronze]

like you think you need iron plates now? wait till you need 10,000 iron plates/min :d

[rain dune]

Though I already automated my machines to make screws, cement, wires and the wire fro the cabling.

[rain dune]

And that though

But I need to figure out how to automate reinforced steel

[clear tartan]

i dont like when i have lag because normally i dont

[gusty bronze]

that is a bit woggly to start with, but you need it

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=5EJEuCijB8KnrcgsODyD

it takes a bit of learning but is a very good tool

[broken prism]

is there anyway of traveling faster without unlocking vehicles?

[dense violet]

blade runners in the mam, zip lines in the mam , hypertubes later

honestly much more useful than vehicles for exploring and getting around

[rain dune]

Thanks

[fluid sapphire]

dont worry, no sane person actually needs that many plates per minute, you'd be surprised with just how little you can beat the game with

[zenith sage]

Technically you don't need any automation to beat this game afaik, but where's the fun in that

[fluid sapphire]

sure, thats not my point, thats a slippery slope extension of what i said

for most non-complex products its much easier to make how many you need, where you need them, rather than make a gigantic central factory and a distribution network

iron plates in particular are a silly thing to centralize

[ornate saffron]

Quick Question ill move to #1038092680493801533 if its to complex.

what's my best power source for trucks during phase 2?

and how long will a full stack of the power source last

I looked on the wiki but i was having trouble mathing it out

[clear tartan]

how do signals even work

[fluid sapphire]

whats "best"? coal is probably the simplest at that point, no?

[clear tartan]

like how do i get it not to say signal loops into itsself

[ornate saffron]

they break the track into blocks. they check the block the train is about to enter to see if there is a train already there if not the oncoming train is given the okay to proceed

[mortal ginkgo]

if you put it on a crossing, put it slightly back and make sure the rail is finished etc

[clear tartan]

ohh

[fluid sapphire]

meaning, dont place the signals directly to where the rail splits

its very buggy right now, 1.1 made it so much worse, hoping it gets fixed finally in 1.2

[ornate saffron]

thats what i think. I just ..... tend not to use trucks. Im forcing myself to get better at the things i dont use this playthrough lol

[fluid sapphire]

im not sure what else you could feasibly even use in phase 2

[ornate saffron]

you will have to signal the entire rail system if you use them

[fluid sapphire]

not a lot of fuel options at that point

[ornate saffron]

Biomass, hardbiomass

[fluid sapphire]

sure but you would have to manually feed that, and thats annoying af

[clear tartan]

even if its a single track?

[fluid sapphire]

more than one train?

[ornate saffron]

Ive completed the game 5 times now and i have almost 1000 hours total.

this Time i went back to basics and started in the grassy plains. Bit of a pain tbh lol

[fluid sapphire]

if you place a signal somewhere, you are basically required to signal the whole network at that point

[solar raft]

Longtime player on pc, but considering buying the game on my Xbox Series X. Any people that play on both and can give me a seal of approval that the game plays nice on console?

My pc is in a detached office from my house and I had a kid a couple years ago so I don’t go out there much unless it’s work bc I gotta watch the kiddo. I’d be able to play more if it was on my console in my house.

[fluid sapphire]

i think grass fields is great

low quality nodes, sure, but its the perfect learning ground

for an experienced player, maybe not so much

i am going like 1100 hours on a single save hehhehh

[ornate saffron]

if you are only using a single track and one train then no signals are needed. To go beyond that the best option is two track Single Direction. I tend to make the right side (from the trains perspective) as the forward direction

[ornate saffron]

thats why im back to the grass. Forcing myself to take it slow and relearn the basics

[fluid sapphire]

i just had another start myself, got my little bro the game, the way he builds is giving me an aneurysm but hey, gotta adjust i guess

[zenith sage]

Do trains stay in a station for the same amount of time always or depending on cargo load? I'm starting to finally plan out my first route

[fluid sapphire]

there are lots of ways to set up trains

i can only say that i like simple A to B, single product setups

that way you can set the train to leave only when empty/full

[green fiber]

Without any extra settings, they only stay there the minimum time

[zenith sage]

By minimum time you mean until it's empty or specific amount of time? 🤔

[green fiber]

They do one unload and then drive off

So its a fixed minimum time

[ornate saffron]

Trains can be daunting especially signaling and current in game bugs. Once you have the base knowledge and know what bugs to look out for it becomes much easier

[fluid sapphire]

signaling is not so bad if you design your network in a 2 lane system

[wispy osprey]

Why does autosave softlock me on the save menu?

[zenith sage]

For now I'm probably not gonna bother with signals and do a single loop with multiple trains (probably) 😅

[ornate saffron]

not sure. Ive not encountered that issue

[fluid sapphire]

a single loop cannot handle multiple trains without signals

[lavish dagger]

Quick question does passing the entrance disables achivements?

ofc not, right?

[ornate saffron]

thats what i did for my first playthrough. It helped get me some base knowl;edge. I out grew it quickly though

[wispy osprey]

You should take a look at my intersection designs lol

I made an 8-way roundabout

[ornate saffron]

skipping the onboarding Process does not turn off Achievments

[zenith shard]

a bit of a pain why?

[lavish dagger]

ty

[zenith sage]

Oh? It can't? I thought maybe if you space them out and if it's possible to standardize the time in stations it'd be possible...

[ornate saffron]

Imma dm you so i have a record of your name. I would love tyo check that out. Im at work currently :/

[fluid sapphire]

just use block signals

space them out at least as far apart as the lenght of your longest train

[wispy osprey]

#screenshots

[fluid sapphire]

also section off each entry/exit to your stations with block signals

thats all

[zenith sage]

I've seen some interesting intersections on yt... I don't wanna think how those work yet hah

[wispy osprey]

I have a collection of them there

[zenith sage]

Ah, that sounds simple enough

[fluid sapphire]

all block signals do is divide the track into sections that allow only one train to occupy it at any given time

[ornate saffron]

feel free to Dm me or @me if you post in #1038092680493801533 if you get stuck. Im happy to lend a hand if needed.

[wispy osprey]

What if a block happens on a long length of rail, and a train is behind that block

I think the solution to that is to place a path after a block

[fluid sapphire]

i dont understand what you are describing

a "block" is just an area between two block signals that can contain only one train, if there is another train behind this train, in another block, it will just wait for the other one to leave

[wispy osprey]

Good to know, my solution works then

[ornate saffron]

path signals are for were rails split and intersect

[wispy osprey]

If a train is taking up a long straight its going to block the signal

I want more than one train to take up a long path

[broken prism]

there was terrifying creatures ive never seen b4 however I did get quartz and unlocked the blade runner just dont know how to put em on or craft if needed

[fluid sapphire]

intersections with path signals as entrances allow multiple trains into the intersection provided the trains' paths do not cross - the area between a path signal and its exit block is also a no-stop zone, this no stop zone can also exist between multiple chained path signals and their exit block signal - this is basically all you need to know about path signals

just use them to create no-stop zones

[fluid sapphire]

then you just split your track further

[wispy osprey]

I'll share a screenshot of what I've got going on too

[fluid sapphire]

make the sections shorter

[broken prism]

any1 know how to equip blade runners? I unlocked it but nothing for crafting can be seen anywere

[zenith sage]

It's in the equipment bench, not regular crafting

[broken prism]

rightttt

[zenith sage]

I finally got better at using the modeler, feels good to plan something almost perfectly efficient and neatly divided based on throughputs

[clear tartan]

true but i plan to split the line so part of it goes to my modular engines and the other to steel beams

[fluid sapphire]

then you need to use block signals

[clear tartan]

ok

also is it a good idea just to have 2 trains going to one station?

[fluid sapphire]

make a waiting bay if you do that

[clear tartan]

like a seperate siding?

[tawny steppe]

i built a 1200/min steel plant thinking im going to make a ton of heavy modular frames, well its enough for about 20/min...

[fluid sapphire]

dont know what your setup looks like exactly, usually you would put the stations on the side of the main track in some way, and then have some extra track to account for another train that needs to wait, something like this

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1398284038535385229

[rugged shard]

Idk how to explain good but I made a blueprint for railway tracks design buy when I try to place them, the rails don’t connect

[clear tartan]

so put a station down where it can wait?

[calm mango]

I see

[fluid sapphire]

again, i dont know what your setup looks like, if its just the two trains, suppose you dont need anything

[clear tartan]

ok

[rugged shard]

How do you place rails like that, I’m trying to do the same

[broken prism]

if anyone has time for a quick question its 8 Coal power plant can be powered by 1 mk2 drill right?

[fluid sapphire]

in my example, the two rails are the main line, the stations are always somehow on the side, and before the station is extra track so a train can wait there without blocking the main line

[clear tartan]

ohh

[fluid sapphire]

its part of a global network

[fluid sapphire]

blueprint: autoconnect

the 3x3 foundation is what contains the track

[rugged shard]

How do you make it autoconnect?

[fluid sapphire]

nudge the rail pillar next to the previous one, make sure you get the rails of the old print all snug with the new one

once you get chainlinks, lock it in

[whole drum]

It's one of the most you select while placing the blueprint--similar to changing mode with belts

[placid stirrup]

Error: insufficient parameters

[fluid sapphire]

then move wherever you want

[whole drum]

No, it's 120/m coal -> 8 gens, fed by 3 water

[broken prism]

lol all good turns out i forgot to connect 1

[rugged shard]

Huhhh, I still don’t understand 😭

[whole drum]

You can't go by what tier of miner you use because the coal nodes vary in base output

[rugged shard]

Oh wait nvm I figured it out

Ty

[fluid sapphire]

red is my pillar, use the "blueprint: auto-connect" build mode, place one pillar, then when you place the next one, place it directly next to the previous one - click to lock the links, then lock the hologram and nudge or move however you want

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1458850894203584718

[whole drum]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xCgMeerl6N0

[fluid sapphire]

for rail in particular i find the default mode can be unreliable

[glass pagoda]

Hi

[whole drum]

Oh, look. It's "Definitely Not Cyan." 🕵️

[glass pagoda]

Bye

[eager harbor]

Noob

[broken prism]

question if anyone has time is there an item bypass or overflow item sorter? example Im using random amount of iron ingots once the machine in front is full only then will it allow over flow to pipes in the back?

[queen slate]

Wow never knew that thx

[broken prism]

?

[whole drum]

You probably want a Smart Splitter

[queen slate]

Yes this

[eager harbor]

The person who sends a message next has to build me an auto oil packaging farm and plastic farm

[broken prism]

lucky for me I'm still on coal and figuring out things to do with it no help to u pal

[whole drum]

The person above me who sent a message doesn't have to do shit--but can if they want.

[broken prism]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[ornate saffron]

Smart splitter! Get on that Mam

[queen slate]

W

[broken prism]

im tier 3 still 😭

[ornate saffron]

you can get them

[broken prism]

idk what tier it even is so gave up on it gonna jsut do 1:1 ratios

[queen slate]

You could prob get them t1 if you tried hard enough

[ornate saffron]

im in t3/t4 and i have them,

[broken prism]

unlocable building is whatim hearing?

[fluid sapphire]

note that you dont really need to use one, if you use a manifold and the amount that goes into your line matches the one that your machines use in total, it just balances out on its own with no need to manage overflow

[broken prism]

what next logic kek

[whole drum]

Smart Splitters come from Caterium research in the MAM--it's not really a tier issue

[ornate saffron]

MAM

[broken prism]

YES I FORGOT

[ornate saffron]

One of my top used statements is "MAM"\

[queen slate]

MAM 🥹

[whole drum]

While this is accurate, it means that machine won't work completely until the buffer fills, as the splitter will be sending materials you want down the line prematurely.

[fluid sapphire]

yes, there is some spin up time, but lets not pretend that you have to babysit there and wait

[whole drum]

Nah, just a caveat

[broken prism]

lile priority piping? itll select all machines connected to 1 conveyor and equally distribute the items?

[broken prism]

the mam knows best I will remember this

[rugged shard]

Wait should I place freight platform behind or at front of train station hub

[ornate saffron]

my coworker is next to me complaining he needs to do more Mam research lol

[whole drum]

"Priority" piping works very differently, and most pipe systems aren't using any kind of balancing.

[fluid sapphire]

i dont know what you mean, but imagine a scenario

120 ore from miner into 4 smelters each using 30 ore,

it will handle itself

[queen slate]

Rail station frieght

[whole drum]

Tell him YT and dating apps are poor sources of info

[rugged shard]

What

[queen slate]

Your rail with train go into station then freights

[broken prism]

i currently have 1 of this setup for iron

[rugged shard]

So infront of station

[queen slate]

Depends on where you looking but yes

[ornate saffron]

depends on your set up. but you want the station to line up with your trains engine and the Frieght platforms to line up with your trains frieght cars. something lik
X is freight
D is station
XXXXD

[fluid sapphire]

the first machine fills up, then the second one, and so on, until the last 2 machines that will never fill but get exactly what they need, and the whole system will work perfectly

[broken prism]

Im assuming what you mean by this is refilling conveyor and running it on a 1:1 ratio is always best?

[whole drum]

The station needs to match the train's configuration.

[queen slate]

Yes

[rugged shard]

Ohhh okay Ty

[broken prism]

bcz what im thinking rn is splitting resources not using them on a 1 single recipie

[rugged shard]

So behind :dd

[ornate saffron]

I find color coding the train freight cars and matching platforms help

[queen slate]

Mb lol I’m bad at explaining

[rugged shard]

Nah it’s fine

[fluid sapphire]

naturally there are some situations that call for overflow, most manifolds do not

my point is resources dont disappear, if you input 120 and machines need that, it gets used

[broken prism]

how technical should I be getting or am I way over my head over complicating it Ive played games like city sky scapes and factorio

[ornate saffron]

I have Two nods making Everying for Rotars, Reinforced plats, Modular Frams, Smart plates. And a little extra of the lower tier items for personal use

[fluid sapphire]

regardless of distribution

[fluid sapphire]

however technical you want, my point is that manifolds handle distribution for you without need of micromanagement, if a line has 120 resources coming in, and all the machines as a whole use those, it doesnt matter how many each machine uses, the manifold will take care of it

[broken prism]

I think I need more experience untill I reach this part to start worring about ratios right like end game?

[whole drum]

Yeah, the best example of where using Smart Splitters with the Overflow setting is if you are using fuel recipes that produce solid byproducts. You do whatever you want with those, but at the last step you put an Overflow -> Sink setup down so that they never fully back up and stop, because if they stop then your fuel production stops, which interferes with your power if you rely on this fuel for generators.

[ornate saffron]

you can get really in depth if you like, You can input all your resources and figure out your math in Satisfactory tools. then build everything.

I also keep a spreadsheet with a diffrent page for each factory and what is uses and produces

[ornate saffron]

im in t3/t4 currently

[broken prism]

so in a case you dont have a surplus say 100 and the machines need 120 total will it equally split 100 to the 5 machines or will it do first come first serve?

[fluid sapphire]

first come first serve in that case, well sort of, but you could use clock speed to adjust

down clock the line so that it only needs 100

[lime kraken]

can someone tell me how do i have to place tracks on a slope foundation the track is floating or inside the foundation

[whole drum]

Depends if you use manifold vs balancers

[broken prism]

spread sheet yes

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[broken prism]

yeah I think ima need to get to the point of needing this to understand it then lol

[fluid sapphire]

in 99% of cases, you dont need balancing

[broken prism]

this seems helpfull

[whole drum]

If you produce less than what the machines demand, downclock the machines to make them equal--then your manifold will work correctly

[broken prism]

down clocking?

[clear tartan]

i need to split 4 conveyors between 6 constructors

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, in the example of 100 ore into 4 smelters, you would (could) clock the last smelter to only produce 10 ingots (as an example)

[broken prism]

are you saying you can change the amount of items input required? in the recipe?

[queen slate]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1458856987101106392 weird q i have

[fluid sapphire]

its in the mam, i believe the alien tech tree, called overclocking, you need slugs to unlock it, then you can adjust machines clock speeds

[whole drum]

Yes

[broken prism]

this would require no bypass gate then just 1:1 ratios thank you

[whole drum]

Slugs have their own tree

[fluid sapphire]

ah right

[broken prism]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-smart-so-many-genius-this-server-has-so-many-geniuses-gif-17960640212511392691

the factory must grow I must continue thank you for the help

[ornate saffron]

I posted a simple manifold for you in #screenshots Im a visual learner

[whole drum]

Kireek > Maxeek

Kireek is not humble. He's a punk ass.

Oh, you don't know who I'm talking about lol

[ornate saffron]

@mortal ginkgo is often lurking

[mortal ginkgo]

Excuse me big dog, I am NOT evil!

I am just impure. 🙂‍↕️

[whole drum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/phantasystar/images/c/cd/Pso2tcg_kireek.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20190319013021

This is Kireek

[broken prism]

yes I saw I shall use it

[abstract heron]

18,102 hrs on record TOTAL

I did it do last year

[glass pagoda]

I like watching the ball trees fly up

[lime kraken]

do you ever had on server that you cant place foundation (hologram dont disapiear and after relod its build?

[jaunty jewel]

i used to always be here

now i appear to say something stupid and disappear

[glass pagoda]

When i get the Pioneer award mug ima put it into the sink to get the gold fixit car that plays the songs from the golf cart tape and has rgb lights

Or should I just keep the mug?

No im talking about the final mug you get

If you put it in the sink you get the gold golf cart thingy

[whole drum]

If it's not for coffee, it's useless

[glass pagoda]

And its joes golf cart

[glass pagoda]

So put it in the sink to get Joe's golf cart

But it holds coffee

Yall update on this -> #satisfactory message after I told her im not on drugs she blocked me

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you talked about heavy frames.

[terse rain]

One of my main struggles is making my factories LOOK good. Because all of them are floating stacks of basic platforms with no walls

Idk how to make that aesthetically pleasing

[mortal ginkgo]

The main problem is people think decorating is easy. It isn't. It takes time for something to stick that you like, a style etc.

[terse rain]

Also I've never been too good at subjective things like what looks good

[mortal ginkgo]

check some videos, get inspiration, etc. It took me a while to find what I like: #design-and-architecture message

[whole drum]

Understandable why this leads to her leaving/blocking

[mortal ginkgo]

I bet he also said "heavy encased frame recipe is a must coz regular got screws and screws kek lol bruh"

I think thats a literal auto block

[terse rain]

I'm planning on putting 3 power shards in every impure, normal, and pure oil node extractor in that north beach area. And proceed to make the largest polymer factory I've ever done

[ornate saffron]

my max belt atm is 240. and thats how many raw crystals i am moving. I dont need much of this currently. I will expand when needed

[terse rain]

But how do I make it aesthetically pleasing when it's so big? The sheer amount of refineries I'll place is gonna out scale any building design I make before it

[eager harbor]

Hi

Twin

Ur sigma

Same 😉

[sullen gull]

270*? 😏

[clear tartan]

is there any way you can make the radar towers reach further?

[placid stirrup]

Naur, just build multiple

[sullen gull]

Fixed 1km cylindar that goes up. Just overlap

[eager harbor]

270*

[clear tartan]

oh

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Radar_Tower#/media/File:Optimal_Radar_Tower_Placement.webp

[eager harbor]

Can I kick someone

677777 raaaaaaa

The meme didn’t leave 2026 sadly

[clear tartan]

you mean 2025?

[eager harbor]

It did leave 2025 now it is in 2026

All the kids in my school bus keep saying it still

[eager harbor]

Screws are screwing me up right now

Don’t got harddrives

[white dawn]

That can be easily remedied! And you'll also come back with spheres, sloops, and DNA! :)

[eager harbor]

Oh hell nah

[white dawn]

I mean, if you don't want to engage with one of the primary gameplay loops, that's certainly your decision. :)

Could just enable AGS and give yourself all the alt recipes, then, if you don't want to go exploring

That or do Easy Mode Screws: make screws directly in front of each machine which needs 'em, in the exact quantities that the machine requires

Most problems that folks have with screws can be bypassed by merely Not Centralizing 'Em

[clear tartan]

how do i change the rifle ammo?

[white dawn]

Hold down the reload key. On PC that's r, on controller it's down-d-pad

[clear tartan]

ty

[white dawn]

heh, that's like the one controller key I know. :D

[peak plank]

Playing this game on a controller sounds like agony

Same here, im way better with M & K

At least they are good for throwin

The action bar system is something to be desired, i need to redo all mine

missing what ?

ah i see

Do you know if you can clear a hotbar key somehow ?

I wish we could have a double bar

with shift or control or something

but ya UI is pretty solid, except for your dimensional inventory that could use a tweak

[unkempt blade]

I do need weakauras to remind me when I run out of jetpack fuel though so maybe it should be more like WoW...

[ornate saffron]

Depends on the game first person and isometric top down games I usually use keyboard mouse

3rd person. And platformers i prefer controllers

[unkempt blade]

he's just a casual, they should make it even more of a requirement to use mods

[timid lynx]

hey 🙂 eanyone know if satisfactory mod manager disables achievements?

[reef basin]

no

[fluid gust]

I think some mods do some dont

? About guy that said no

Cause ik some mod say cheat

[reef basin]

that doesn't mean it disables achievements

[dark heron]

can i get someones opinion on which alternate recipe to pick

[fickle locust]

What are you choosing between

[dark heron]

steeled frame or steel cast plate

so either:
(2 reinforced iron plate) + (10 steel pipe) -> 3 modular frames (3/min)
or
(1 iron ingot) + (1 steel ingot) -> 3 iron plates (45/min)

[fickle locust]

The second one is iron plates (no such thing as steel plates)

[dark heron]

yeah sorry iron plates

[fickle locust]

I think they're both useful, but I think Steeled Frame is a bigger deal

I won't set up automation for modular frames until I have steeled, whereas cast plate is more of a nice to have

[dark heron]

makes sense thanks

[unkempt blade]

cast screws

[dark heron]

peak

david tennant is the best anything tbh

[vague briar]

Blade runners are so peak

[whole drum]

This approach makes no sense to me. The default recipe is just rips + rods (all iron) and easy to do. Steel Frames requires steel pipes, which is much more expensive than iron rods. You either wildly overpay in the iron for Iron Pipes, or you're adding coal into the mix just to overpay even harder.

[unkempt blade]

I don't know this one but because it includes I'm going to assume I agree

[vague briar]

Traversing the map with jump slide and blade runners is gonna be so peak

[final jetty]

man its time for me to make decisions on factories xd

[whole drum]

Parachute + Ladders is the cheapest way to access anything that doesn't require nobs

[final jetty]

this is the one thing i didnt miss XD

[vague briar]

Ngl for some reason I’m not taking any damage Idfk why

[whole drum]

Why would you take damage? Blade Runners reduce fall damage, but also increase the required height to even take damage.

[vague briar]

Mobs

[whole drum]

Don't get hit 👍

[vague briar]

What?

[vague briar]

Well I’m not taking any damage so I’m fine

[lament gazelle]

So many cats

[timid lynx]

anyone know any signs mods that accept hyperlinks or files? I remember having an old hologram sign mod that did

[vague briar]

Cats are good

[fluid crow]

Meow

[vague briar]

Rawr

[lament gazelle]

How cats r in this server

[fluid crow]

soon we will be in every server

[vague briar]

I am more obsessed

[fickle locust]

For me, since the recipe comes at the same time that I'm putting steel production online anyway, it makes sense to make a factory that'll produce steel beams, steel pipes, and modular frames all together. It pretty neatly expands to HMF, encased industrial beams, and versatile frameworks.

The end-stage recipe once I have all the alts isn't using steel frame, but I like it a lot in the midgame

[unkempt blade]

And all of it being moved by factory carts! Truly an amazing factory concept!

[abstract heron]

Maybe 8th

Idk

[tidal flame]

i spawned in grass fields and built a basic factory (wires plates rods....(till i got to coal power)) so i expelored and saw a how life wouldve been easy if i spawned in rocky desert should i move out?

[fluid crow]

sure

[abstract heron]

40 but I have some I machines etc etc

[fierce forum]

Is there a way without mods to allow the stuff to still produce even if you ain't on the game?

[zinc mesa]

progress! my new factory planner can now flag undersized belts

[tidal flame]

Any opinions

[abstract heron]

Somewhere

[south sinew]

Nothing stopping you but it's really more hassle than its worth, grassy fields is really good IMO

[tidal flame]

But its full of impure nodes

[south sinew]

There are other parts of the grassy fields with not-impure nodes

the eastern side has 4 normal iron nodes and 3 normal limestone nodes very close by

also the blue crater which is quite close is crazy for power generation

[fluid crow]

can just run belts, or move items some other way, or have multiple locations

[tidal flame]

Ok i will check them out

[abstract heron]

Go crazy

[abstract heron]

I have dis manny hrs on the game 18,103 hrs on record TOTAL

[peak plank]

Run a 10 item per minute belt from one side of the map to the other, drive cargo all the way back with a truck, send cargo via train that circumnavigates the entire map to a drone, which will fly that cargo to a sink

[cunning glade]

So question I feel around 500 refineries ocing them too save on machines isn't a bad idea right

[abstract heron]

I have done over 1500 once

[cunning glade]

Not oced?

[abstract heron]

Not oc

[eager harbor]

[cunning glade]

I just kinda don't wanna place all of thoose and I wanna get rubber up quickly

And when I get synthetic I can change them tbh

[south sinew]

You only need to save those machines if you are running low on performance

[abstract heron]

@eager harbor

[south sinew]

wait why the hell do you want to place hundreds of machines when you're just starting to get rubber? that's way too early to need so many

[cunning glade]

I may be making around 9250 a min

[south sinew]

and making a big setup before you have diluted fuel and recycled rubber/plastic is definitely a bad idea

[abstract heron]

I make ton of iron and copper and concrete in the dune desert

[south sinew]

that's.. way more rubber than you could possibly need

[cunning glade]

It only takes 3k oil

[south sinew]

you can very comfortably win the game on a quarter of that

and generally you'd need even less

[abstract heron]

I did a all oil in Gold Coast to rubber plant

My main world is 4,300hr or more in it

[cunning glade]

True but I'm aiming for 30 pasta a min

[south sinew]

so wait

what stage of the game are you actually at

[abstract heron]

Who

[south sinew]

goodquestion

[cunning glade]

4

[south sinew]

ok so if you're not in the post-game it's definitely not worth making 10k rubber/min and it's pretty crazy to do this without using the best alts

[fierce forum]

I have 5 and a half 😔

[south sinew]

30 pasta/min is kinda.. pointless as you're gonna spend way more time setting up the refineries than you're going to gain

at least wait until Phase 5 when you can make power shards

[cunning glade]

Wait phase or tier I get theese ones mixed up

[gloomy tusk]

whats pasta

[fickle locust]

I'm doing 20 pasta/min and am producing all the rubber and plastic I need with 40 refineries

[cunning glade]

I'm on milestone 7 and 8

[gloomy tusk]

phase is related to space elevator and tiers are in the hub

you unlock the phases to unlock the tiers

[south sinew]

phase 4, tier 7/8

[fluid crow]

is there a way to take a specific number of something from dimensional depot?

[south sinew]

I feel like my answer holds good then

a) making so much is totally pointless, b) even if you did, this is a bad time to do it

[abstract heron]

My TOTAL HR ON GAME 18,103 hrs on record

[cunning glade]

I'm still gonna need at least 2k

I'm prolly gonna turn 2k into more plastic

[south sinew]

at least make sure you're using the best alternates for that 2k

[cunning glade]

I'm only making 3600

[eager harbor]

Only?

[abstract heron]

Yes

One of my worlds has 6800hr on it

[cunning glade]

Well I'm only using 1200 oil for the plastic

[eager harbor]

Man u should play more

[abstract heron]

Yes

[fierce forum]

I have 5 and a half

[south sinew]

if you're building a really big factory, you're gonna need a lot of power and that's most easily obtained from oil, so the oil is gonna be competing with plastic/rubber for usage, so it's still best to use the most efficient alts

[gloomy tusk]

my first save currently has 150 hrs

[tranquil zinc]

If I put a throughput monitor on a conveyer belt attached to the train unloading storage, will that reflect accurate train throughput?

[south sinew]

no

the sample time is not long enouigh

[fickle locust]

The train station's indicator is more helpful

[abstract heron]

I do 2 belts from train unloading to container

[cunning glade]

What do u think I'm doing also blue Crater is for rocketfuel so

[fickle locust]

What do you need this much oil product for? There's actually not that much in project assembly that needs plastic or rubber

[south sinew]

well synthetic plastic/rubber is definitely not the best alt

[tranquil zinc]

What do you mean, does it show any info? Like average time per route?

Like that is a great starting point, at least show me the average time per route

[fickle locust]

Each freight platform shows either incoming or outgoing items per minute

[tranquil zinc]

Or do I need a stopwatch and calculate manually

[cunning glade]

It's fun also just using all the oil in one spot

[abstract heron]

Dis

[fickle locust]

You shouldn't really need to calculate round trip time. If the item throughput isn't fast enough, you add another train doing the same route

[modest kernel]

Is there a way to easily upgrade conveyors or do I have to deconstruct mk1's and reconstuct them as mk2's?

[tranquil zinc]

What happens if its backups up though? Like if the train can't unload the goods. Do I just sink the excess?

[fickle locust]

Select m2 conveyers and point them at the mk 1s, it'll turn yellow and show you can upgrade

[fickle locust]

You can if you want. You can also just let it. The train won't unload as much, so it won't load as much, so eventually the production on the origin side will back up and idle. But that's fine

[fickle locust]

Sure but your question was if it's a bad idea and you were concerned about wasting time putting up that many machines
You are wasting time making that many machines, in the sense that you have no need to do it and no use for that many

[cunning glade]

Well I need atleast prolly 3k

[unkempt blade]

just sink the extras for sweet sweet coupons and move on with your satisfactory life 😄

[fickle locust]

What do you need 3k for?

[unkempt blade]

coupon points

I need all the gold statues or I'll literally die

[cunning glade]

I think a lot of it goes too the computers for the pasta

[cunning glade]

Also cuz ficsit doesn't waste

[fickle locust]

60 computers is 2k plastic if you're not using any of the nice recipes

Caterium computers instead and that's already down to 1000 plastic and 300 rubber

[junior laurel]

@fierce forum #screenshots message
No where near
Have fun exploring the map :)

[fierce forum]

Bout to say map is shit if it was

[unkempt blade]

you sure explored a lot before leaping to judgement 🤣

[fierce forum]

I mean I would still play the game

[heavy pine]

Yeah, that looks like just a single radar radius.

[coral glacier]

Sure would be nice if pipes had a Ceiling mount

Mikael, ceiling mount, ceiling mounts mikael

[fierce forum]

I have so much power that I have 2 and a half days of power, don't reply saying you have x amount which is way higher, let me have this

[coral glacier]

"I have 50 mil-"

[queen slate]

Is there not a pipeline support?

[coral glacier]

There is a pipeline support item, but you can't stack it.

[queen slate]

Oh I see

[coral glacier]

Ceiling support for pipes do exist, but you cannot stack them.
Which sucks because this game is all about efficiency.

And not having stackable ceiling supports for pipes prevents more efficiency.

[queen slate]

M2 pipes not always holding 600 is also annoying

[coral glacier]

Yet stackable ceiling supports exists for Conveyors...

Eugh, i'll just use a mod.
Sucks though that there isn't a vanilla solution for this.

[white dawn]

mk2 pipes can generally handle 600/min just fine so long as you've figured out how to work with 'em. :)

I agree that the player experience for figuring out how to do that can be obtuse and frustrating though

[gloomy tusk]

Where is a good spot to set up a factory for all of the space elevator parts in phase 3

[eager harbor]

Should I buy battlefield 6

[pastel crater]

I think I pressed a key that messed up my ability to rotate my conveyer belts with the mouse wheel. Now the belts only rotate through movement of the mouse. What key do I need to press?

[white dawn]

Anywhere which has the ores you need. Though I wouldn't recommend requiring that they all be at the same site

Each part might require a different set of ores; no need to consolidate just for the sake of it (unless you really want to, of course)

[gloomy tusk]

I just want them to be within 1k meters of each other

[reef basin]

near resources it needs 🙂

[lyric basalt]

well 😐 now all i can do is wait lol

[gloomy tusk]

i meant where is that

i did find a decent place though so its all good

[reef basin]

that depends a lot on recipes you've chosen and amount you want to produce. Basically varies from person to person and from factory to factory. Best you can do is look for such location yourself

[obsidian quail]

I just started oil stuff, and booooy howdy, I was not prepared for the mess that it would start to create and how flipping far away it is.

i love it

[lyric basalt]

i dont think my computer is good enough for the amount of things im deleting lol

[eager harbor]

Guys if I format my computer I lost my world?

[obsidian quail]

steam cloud exists, so make sure you save and sync before formatting

[eager harbor]

How do I do that

[obsidian quail]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/68D2-35AB-09A9-7678
Googling things is great.

[eager harbor]

Thx

[obsidian quail]

why are you formatting your PC?

[eager harbor]

Cuz my harddisk is full when I deleted every single app and software

And Idk why

[obsidian quail]

reformatting seems like a bad idea if you don't understand why something is happening.

[fierce forum]

There other weapons in this game?

[reef basin]

clear trash 😛

[eager harbor]

I did

[obsidian quail]

maybe get a buddy to look at it with you first because it sounds like you're just doing random stuff

[ornate saffron]

two melee, a rebar gun and a machine gun.

Boombox is technicly a weapon although it only does one dmg and launches creatures

[white dawn]

Also s of various sorts

[fierce forum]

Man, I imagine being able to produce weapons especially that I just discovered you can sell stuff, imagine selling weaponary

Wait what pegi is this game?

It's a pegi 7 from research nvm then

[dry cradle]

You can sell the ammo

[fierce forum]

Ye but imagine going to a alien planet just to arm people to take over more planets well lore wise you'd never actually see it but ye

[dry cradle]

FICSIT does not do hostile takeovers

[fierce forum]

I wanna

[dry cradle]

I mean I guess you could carpet bomb mobs

[fluid crow]

definitely not work for an ai that took over the universe

[dry cradle]

If ADA took over the universe then we wouldn’t really need the pioneer

[fierce forum]

I mean, the company from what I've played so far treats there staff like tools so a hostile takeover ain't out of reach

[dry cradle]

How do I do the spoiler highlight

Whatever

Spoiler warning ig

[fierce forum]

Wait I know

Do || either side

[dry cradle]

Thanks

[fierce forum]

No spaces

[gritty totem]

yurr wsg

[dry cradle]

||the entire reason we are here is because we need to basically prep the planet for the rest of our race to be able to survive because earth is dying||

||what the space elevator is building is a giant ship to carry them here||

[fierce forum]

I mean fair but ||wouldn't weapons make it easier to kill hostiles?||

[obsidian quail]

are you american?

[fierce forum]

No

Range weapons be op sometimes, gives a edge on primitive beings

[dry cradle]

Yes, but FICSIT wouldn’t want to arm every person on the planet

[placid stirrup]

Why's it look like the Epstein files in here

[fierce forum]

True but there's gotta be a big military

[reef basin]

I ||don't re||a||lly know ||m||uch|| b||ut it's v||e||ry funny, almo||st|| hilarious||

[runic mesa]

no you're not

[reef basin]

youre

[runic mesa]

there

happy?

[spare cradle]

[unkempt blade]

I won't be happy until you set up some factory cart routes

[runic mesa]

i tried, drove off the cliff with around 8 power slugs

[unkempt blade]

You just need practice. You're amazing and talented and I believe in your ability to learn to drive a factory cart

[runic mesa]

very drifty, doesnt help i havent played in 2 years

[spare cradle]

How fast does the cart go?

[runic mesa]

like 30 i think?

[unkempt blade]

a little faster than blade runners

[spare cradle]

Fun

[strong fiber]

In terms of a nuclear plant what would be good alternative recipes to get to process uranium waste and make uranium fuel rods

Im trying to build one working on turbofuel plant first doe

For drones

[safe heron]

Is there a maximum height to Elevators except the maximum World height?

[strong fiber]

Probably

Gotta test urself tho

[shell sundial]

196m

[safe heron]

Yeah, per Elevator piece. But you can stack them, right?

[strong fiber]

Thats alotta meters bruh

Bro typed in the wrong server

[safe heron]

I'm stuck at a point of game where I am desperately trying to figure out how to automate Alclad Aluminum Sheets and make it look good.

[golden elbow]

YEP SOBB

[strong fiber]

Theres no refrigerator in this game bruh😭

[shell sundial]

dont think so. i make a transfer floor and put a new one up

[golden elbow]

My goodness, sorry sorry 😭

[strong fiber]

You fine its no big deal

What game you playing

[golden elbow]

Rimworld, I got it with satisfactory this summer sale

Anyhow, phase 3!

[strong fiber]

I got to phase 5 its very fun when u need to make trigons and time crystals

Rim world sounds fun lowk bouta get it

Its $40

Nvm imma get it later

[strong fiber]

Anyone got an answer to my question plz

[unkempt blade]

whichever ones make you happiest to use

[strong fiber]

Is there ones that make it easier?

[unkempt blade]

cast screws makes it easier

[strong fiber]

Ion even need screws for anything

[unkempt blade]

you do if you're doing nuclear right

[strong fiber]

I have alternates that eliminate screws

[unkempt blade]

you're making nuclear harder, I'm trying to help you

[strong fiber]

So u telling me to use screws

Balright

[unkempt blade]

I always tell people to use screws... and factory carts

two things that make all factories easier

[strong fiber]

All i need to make is uranium fuel rods

[fickle locust]

When working with nuclear my one must-have is Infused Uranium Cell (more efficient than default and lets you avoid working with liquid products in this step). I also like Instant Plutonium Cell because it lets me skip the plutonium pellets step.
I'm fine with the default fuel rod recipe (don't want to make crystal oscillators), and am fairly neutral between the two non-fissile uranium recipes.

[strong fiber]

And plutonium fuel rods

[unkempt blade]

Sounds like you've got it figured out then. Did you need any more help?

[strong fiber]

Thanks for the answer bro and i have most of those recipes in my hard drive library already

So we good

[unkempt blade]

yeah this is the screw-using route, good suggestion

[strong fiber]

If i use fertile uranium i use more uranium

And im not gonna be using plutonium fuel rods this play through probably

So the default recipe is fine for me

[unkempt blade]

but you need them for dronemaxing

[strong fiber]

More waste for less uranium

[fickle locust]

Are you planning to sink the plutonium?

[strong fiber]

Yes

[fickle locust]

Yeah that's the instance where I like the default more. Clear the waste as much as possible, I don't care about my # of plutonium rods per minute so long as it's enough to reprocess the waste

[strong fiber]

Also why would i need plutonium cells bruh

Nvm

[fickle locust]

Full nuclear chain! It's fun to do. But there's no real reason to do it unless you want the challenge

[strong fiber]

I got to split so much up

[strong fiber]

I need power so i gotta

Im not building more rocket fuel thats the most boring thing i ever done

So imma just use all the uranium in the world fr

Is that reasonable

?

[fickle locust]

Uranium is energy dense

A fully overclocked node gets you a lot of power

[strong fiber]

I need atleast like 500k MW

[fickle locust]

Do you actually or do you just want to

[hazy void]

how do you get gas filters?

[fickle locust]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Gas_Mask#Gas_Filter-0

[strong fiber]

I need it to make the rest of the factories i will need for this save

[fickle locust]

To do that you will need all the uranium on the map, but that's a very very big amount of power. Use-every-node-on-the-map-with-full-overclocking levels of power

[native crown]

I need help, because I am having a massive brain fart. If I have 50.4 Uranium fuel rods per minute, how many generators do I need? what is the total waste output. I am sorry for the stupid question, but every time I try to calculate on my own, I get different numbers.

[fickle locust]

And I guess I would expect someone doing that to have already made their own plan for how they wanted to make nuclear

[strong fiber]

Well i got batteries so when i boot it up the batteries can kick in

[fickle locust]

That's pretty unrelated to my point. Your plan for the save is to use every single thing on the map?

[strong fiber]

No

I just need lots of power for my mega factories and ive never done nuclear before

[strong fiber]

That can power 100 reactors fully overclocked

[fickle locust]

Uranium fuel burns at 0.2 per minute. So 252 plants at 100% clock speed, fewer if you're overclocking. That'll make 2,520 waste per minute.

[fickle locust]

Ok but you don't need every node of uranium on the map levels of power for the megafactory, unless said megafactory is pulling in every other resource node on the map

[native crown]

Thank you so much, my brain was not having it today

[strong fiber]

Bro why you arguing with me when its my save

If my shit blows my shit blows it aint gonna effect you

my god bro

Like if one particle accelerator takes 20000 Mw imma need a fuh ton of powrr

[fickle locust]

You asked is this reasonable. I'm asking questions about your plans to determine if it is reasonable

[strong fiber]

And i still need to make a power shard factory

[gloomy tusk]

how does that work

dont you get them from power slugs

[strong fiber]

In phase 5 you can automate them

[gloomy tusk]

oh cool

[unkempt blade]

so save some slugs to make an awesome carousel around your hub!

[fickle locust]

If you want to use all the uranium on the map, use it. But I think you're overestimating your final power needs, and that you won't need all of it to provide power for your endgame factory

[gloomy tusk]

i have 10 purple slug

[fickle locust]

In any case, if you make a uranium chain for one node, it's not too hard to expand if and when you do need more

[strong fiber]

You need time crystals, dark matter crystals, quartz crystal, and excited photonic matter

So lots of crystals

[surreal hull]

Tf

Tier 9 must be crazy

[strong fiber]

What

[gloomy tusk]

wtf are those]

[unkempt blade]

it's like all the best stuff from the Stargate movies

[gloomy tusk]

satisfactory is not for the weak ✌️

[strong fiber]

Things 3 of them u unlock in tier 9

[leaden turret]

indeed

[strong fiber]

And you can literally make excited photonic matter from air in a converter

But you gotta deal with dark matter residue

[surreal hull]

And i though the 103 or somth machines i needed for my motor factory was alot xD

[leaden turret]

[insert robert picardo joke here]

[dim flint]

Anyone else notice the train Incoming Transfer Rate is off (low) by about 5-10%?

[gloomy tusk]

whats the best ada

[surreal hull]

I like the ada msg for the trains milestone in the hub

[strong fiber]

For 400 Mw you can make 200 excited photonic matter/minute

[gloomy tusk]

no like ada christmas

ada elevator

and others

[surreal hull]

Idk what those are

[unkempt blade]

Yeah it's better than salt. It gives my bacon mushrooms a nice umami flavor

[gloomy tusk]

ficsmas event

and in the personal elevator

[surreal hull]

Awful thing

Ficsmas

[eager silo]

i have 10 rafinerys that produce fuel but i cant sature them with 600m2 of oil... why? the last 2-3 maschines always get bottlenecked despite i have enough oil to provide for 10 maschines

[surreal hull]

Eww, go save the kittens and puppies

[hallow flicker]

ElevADA. She is very uplifting.

[surreal hull]

Pipes?

[eager silo]

i use mk2 pipes, the mk1 dont have enough throughput

[surreal hull]

#1038092680493801533

Km all outta ideas themn

[unkempt blade]

double down on mk1!

[gloomy tusk]

XD

[fickle locust]

Are you producing 600 oil per minute? Are all the pipes mk 2, there isn't a sliver of mk 1 somewhere? How are the pipes feeding refineries, from above/same level/below? Did you make a loop in the pipes to avoid sloshing?

[wispy osprey]

Loops in pipes are a trap

Pipe logistics really are not that complex

[hallow flicker]

Admiral Ackbar has entered the chat

[eager silo]

everything is mk2, its 600oil/m for 10 refinerys that produce fuel, they are getting fed from slightly above

[unkempt blade]

whenever someone says something sus I like to look at their profile and see when they joined the server

[white dawn]

Looped manifolds in pipes are hardly a trap. They're one really solid way to help deal with sloshing which, especially if combined with other advice, can often make pipes Just Work.

Do you need them all the time? No, of course not. But looped manifolds are an excellent build suggestion for anyone struggling with 600/min delivery across manifolds especially

[wispy osprey]

I dunno, one guy told me manifolds make pipelines more complex than they need to be

[eager silo]

i even wait until every pipe is maxed with fluid but as soon as i activate the refinerys, they get less and less oil into the input over time, something HAs to slosh or backflow

[white dawn]

Here's the advice I've got saved which will nearly always get you to working 600/min. IMO it's good advice even below that point, though the system is usually more forgiving before then. Note of course that people have gotten working systems while ignoring large swaths of this, and occasionally due to build styles or other vagaries you might still have problems even with all this. But IME it's nearly always "the pipes Just Work":

1. Keep the system as simple and short as possible.
2. Loop your manifolds (so: the input goes into both sides of the machines you're feeding)
3. Feed fluid from above, so gravity does part of the work for you
   4a. Avoid valves entirely (they've been improved for 1.0, so this one might not be as important, but you still don't actually need valves)
   4b. Avoid fluid buffers entirely (except as buffers for train lines, where they are rather necessary)
4. Prefill your pipes! Full pipes are happy pipes. Wait until the system's thoroughly saturated before turning machines on.
5. Place junctions before pipes. If you do snap junctions onto pipes, dismantle and rebuild the pipes afterwards.

See #screenshots message for an example of 2+3 specifically. And of course, as mentioned, the fluid simulation tends to be more forgiving as the rate goes down, so keeping your pipe systems below 600/min is another option too.

[whole drum]

Here's the deal:
If your liquids are feeding in from a single side, you need a loop to manage sloshing.
If your liquids are fed in from opposite ends of the system, you don't need loops because the opposing pressure will achieve the same effect.

[fickle locust]

That sounds like a hidden mk 1 pipe is throttling you. Sloshing makes you lose like 10 fluid/minute, so instead of 600 you're getting 590. Multiple machines going idle even once you've filled the pipeline means they're not getting fed enough product, so either you're not actually producing 600/min or (more likely) there's a lower speed pipe somewhere.

[whole drum]

No, if you had a Mk1 in there, you would lose a lot more flow rate than that.

[eager silo]

that was exactly my first try, to feed the other end with another pipe that connects but then after a while the middle mashines get starved

[whole drum]

If any machines starve, it means you don't have matching input/output and/or didn't prefill properly.

[wispy osprey]

So if I split a 600 to feed both ends...

[whole drum]

That would reduce sloshing, just like the loop

[wispy osprey]

Neato

[fickle locust]

If your mk 1 is in the middle of the manifold, you tend to lose an amount of flow that starves the last few machines

[wispy osprey]

As long as i avoid vertical loops and curving vertically

[fickle locust]

If it's at the start it's easier to spot because half your manifold doesn't work

[whole drum]

Ah, yeah. I see what you're saying now. Thought you meant something else.

[drowsy kelp]

What’s 6 about

[wispy osprey]

It's the max rate of a pipe

[whole drum]

This has been less of an issue since 1.0, but sometimes pipes are buggy and attaching stuff onto them can break pipe connections. This is aimed at avoiding that problem.

[drowsy kelp]

So if it works it just works, it’s not a secret issue that’ll creep up on you

[whole drum]

Correct

[wispy osprey]

Right, never junction on a pipe itself

And avoid vertical loops

[whole drum]

I do it all the time, but if your pipes are having flow issues, you may need to rebuild them if you didn't follow this advice.

[ornate saffron]

I find filling machines from a higher elevation helps too

[safe heron]

I just bought the Ficsit Factory Cart but didn't get one and can't craft it either.

[wispy osprey]

It's from equipment workshop since it can be held in your hands

A lot of dumb things are hidden in equipment workshop

[white dawn]

Honestly that one's mostly just a guard against folks inadvertently creating really really tiny pipe segments hidden "inside" junctions, when placing junctions on existing pipes

[drowsy kelp]

If you’re having trouble finding something check the codex

[white dawn]

If they get small enough the simulation can get a bit weird, and for folks who upgrade/downgrade pipes, could lead to situations where you think everything's mk2 but there's a hidden bit of mk1, etc

Guarding against PEBKAC mostly, I think. :)

[wispy osprey]

Junctions can also store fluid for some reason

It's how pumpless vertical pipes work

[drowsy prawn]

is there a way i can change the conveyor belt speed in the satisfactory modeler app ?

[paper swallow]

Yo is someone hosting a multiplayer game rn?

[obsidian quail]

yo, #1201555265942724758

[dim flint]

I'm honestly looking forward doing a power system reboot test.

I'll be curious to see what buffers drain first if I cut various supply routes.

[sullen gull]

Have you set it up on priority power switches or anything? And if so, did you go so far to segregate it? I.e., one switch for ore/resource production, one for something like HOR production, one for fuel, etc?

[dim flint]

I have some set up yes. But I've never really tested them, and I know a lot of them are incorrect.

For power plants I try to segregate "power" from "production" and leave a disconnected set of charged batteries that are enough to power production until power can sustain it.

But again this is all mostly untested.

For nuclear I'll have power, production, and waste. With waste being the top priority.

[sullen gull]

Btw, no judgement or critques were in the works. Was only curious as wondering if other people did it the same way. For me, for a goo long bit now, I have that a decent track record of being able to start up a factory and have everything churning pretty quickly (from start to end) within about a 10 minute average. That is basing off of some personal goals of no more that 2% of total machines be under 98% after 10 minutes. The only one I have started, stopped, stalled, and screwed with in every way I can think of is my Aluminum setups.

[dim flint]

Haha, aluminum is a pain sometimes.

[sullen gull]

I keep wanting to do some "restart tests" on many different things, But I always get "ooh shiny'ed' by the next project I have been "planning" while buillding the previous lol

[dim flint]

And yea, I just haven't really bothered to test spin up like I want to yet.

[dim flint]

Exactly.

But once this "use all the uranium" project is done, I can do a massive system stress test in various zones of isolation.

[sullen gull]

And I'm like "Welp, this one is where I want it within 10 min..... NEXT!" 🤣

[sullen gull]

Ooooooh, snazzy, I like it 😛

[dim flint]

Think I'll net about 600GW.

0.6 TW

[sullen gull]

Just a max of 2100 uranuim? No conversions or anything? Using any for Nuke Nobelilsks as well or no?

Allso assuming all the way to Ficsonium?

[coral glacier]

I have an 800 Plutonium Nuclear Power Plant in the works :)

[dim flint]

No conversion in this initial build. No automated nukes, though I might add those just without a sink.

I just really have no interest in ficsonium.

[sullen gull]

Fair. Just sinking plutonium rods?

[dim flint]

Yep

So the key to the testing of this (which is what will start my full system test) is that if I cut off production, waste processing doesn't deplete before the reactors do...

Might require some buffers.

[coral glacier]

Modular design too, 4x5x5 layout for the reactors.
Having a modular design is super useful for scaling.

[dim flint]

And unfortunately I have to test various modes of failure... so I might just do the math and assume it's fine.

[dim flint]

I'm building mine around the gap in the mountain to the north, just beside the desert.

[sullen gull]

I would be interested to hear your experience with buffers and however you're using. The general consensus seems to be "buffer bad, begone demon!, Unless it's trains...".

[coral glacier]

I have mine in the north-west coast region

[dim flint]

Ah. That's where my factory factory is.

[coral glacier]

Mainly for keeping the distance from the extractor low, haha

I was going to build it under the map but that's finiky.

[dim flint]

I use them as little as possible. Even got into an argument in the math channel about how you need them less for (one side of) trains than people often think.

But this is a perfect example of how they might be useful. The buffer can effectively extend the lifetime of a system without inputs. And the idea is that waste processing outlasts waste production.

[dim flint]

Yea. I don't like that.

Though I did build my first two reactors in a cave.

Back when 12GW was a lot to me.

[coral glacier]

Coool

[dim flint]

Belting and piping all like 8 things in though was gross.

[coral glacier]

And the estimate, just for the plutonium reactors is 6 TW

:)

[dim flint]

See that's awesome.

[coral glacier]

[dim flint]

I just can't be bothered with ficsonium.

[coral glacier]

Speaking of Ficsonium

[dim flint]

Not yet anyway.

[sullen gull]

So, for one aluminum plant I was working on, producing all 12,300 bauxite (honestly only way I want to do it anymore) I wanted it's own dedicated power. So, I have 5 towers, 12 gens each, with a buffer on the very top for ,gasp, rocket fuel, and it seemed to work well when I purposely killed RF production for testing.

[coral glacier]

I'm also going to build a Ficsonium section as plutonium waste management, and the whole plant be waste free!

[leaden turret]

-# misread as "purposely killed RBF production for testing"

[coral glacier]

Of course there will be secondary bins if anything goes wrong and i have to reroute the waste.

[waxen rock]

needing 50 smart plating felt tedious but now I need 1000????

[sullen gull]

I am in an out of different RL plants a lot, and I swear RBF and RDF are some of the most common traits that don't seem to be condusive to production rates at all 😛

[leaden turret]

resting bish face and resting whut face?

[sullen gull]

You realize that is not a "per minute" requirement? 😛

[sullen gull]

"dish" 😏

[leaden turret]

-# per second [trollface]

[waxen rock]

I do but man it's such a hit at your motivation

[leaden turret]

-# relaxed face 🍽️

[leaden turret]

leave the facility that made 50 smart plating running while you do other stuff

[sullen gull]

Basically the male equivalent lol

[leaden turret]

ah, resting eggplant face

[waxen rock]

ig

[sullen gull]

Gonna steal that for furture reference, but... yes, 🤣

[dim flint]

I like the look of fluid buffers. And they aren't a pain to delete, so I add them a decent but when I mighf not need them.

[sullen gull]

Ok, sorry, old folgy, but what is "ig" ? 😏

[leaden turret]

game has eggplant tors, so 🤷‍♂️

[waxen rock]

I guess

[leaden turret]

ipso gacto

[coral glacier]

Simple, make lots of everything! 🤣