satisfactory

[leaden dome]

I guess nothing if it's gas

I always forget rocket fuel is a gas

actually gasses may still have problems dunno haven't made it that far yet

gravity, the stuff in the pipes would rather stay in the pipes than go into the generators because it's lower

[sullen gull]

Never have thus far for me personally.

[leaden dome]

I've had lots of problems with it so I tend to be cautious

[sullen gull]

This is where headlift, for regular fluids, takes over 😉

Sec, uploading...

[leaden dome]

headlift doesn't negate gravity necessarily

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[leaden dome]

it allows the fluids to go up but they still like to go dowj

[sullen gull]

When feeding regular fluids from below the fire, directly to the machine, does cause issues. But not like in that vid.

[leaden dome]

what am I looking for here?

[sullen gull]

Mostly the plumbing. The factory is a mess because I have foundations pullled, working on power 😛

[drowsy kelp]

Put more in than out and it’ll figure itself out

[sick falcon]

is ionized fuel only useful for drones and jetpack

[leaden dome]

I tried that. system too big

[leaden dome]

that looks like a raised spine to me

[drowsy kelp]

My internet is dying aaaaaaaaa

[sullen gull]

Right, which is what I said earlier that I do for water regular fluids. That line is working with 1050 water.

[leaden dome]

so how is it relevant to this? I'm a little lost

[sullen gull]

Ahh, it's just the one I nabbed to reply to since it was the same convo. My bad. Basically was a continuation of this: #satisfactory message

[leaden dome]

ah, gotcha

yeah my four generators in a mk2 blueprint is definitely not as pretty as whatever you've got going on lol

[sullen gull]

Shenannigans 🤣

[tired cypress]

what's the difference between power grid production and capacity?

[sullen gull]

Production is how much that could potentially be generated. Capacity is how much that's actually being generated. (I think. lol. )

[spare cradle]

I thought it was the other way

[sullen gull]

Lol, may be. Was switching saves as I had "no power" on in that other one 😛

[leaden dome]

for the most part they should be the same thing. production means how much power you're making and capacity means how much power your grid has access to. there's very little reason for those numbers to be different

I guess batteries and biofuels would separate them?

[tired cypress]

I have batteries and it doesn't seem to matter

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's what I was noticing. Went and connected a thermal gen to see if that would've changes it.

[white dawn]

Power Storage doesn't affect the graph, btw. (They're not Batteries, even though they look and act like them. Different item. :)

[leaden dome]

I feel like this is more likely to be a problem of a poorly worded question. what are you actually looking at?

[white dawn]

Capacity is the total amount of power-generation capacity you've got on the grid, and will generally only differ from Production when you have Biomass Burners, since those are the one power-generation machine which adjusts its output to suit the load

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Power#Power_graph

[white dawn]

If you have no Biomass Burners the two lines will basically always be equal

[obsidian quail]

holy crap, is that why the biomass burners on my home thingy just sit at 199 fuel after i over built coal generation?

[leaden dome]

yes

[white dawn]

It was more important to have the distinction back when every power-generation machine scaled with use, though it's arguably still useful since Bio Burners still do that

[obsidian quail]

i was trying to figure out where they were pulling fuel from, but this makes so much more sense.

thank you

[sullen gull]

TIL lol. I never paid attention 🤣 . Just cared that it was flat 😛

[leaden dome]

burners are effectively a type of power storage now, they only turn on if they're needed

[sullen gull]

Biomass* burners

Regular fuel gens consume so long as they get fuel and always output constant power. Whether it's being used of not.

[leaden dome]

those aren't called burners though

they're called generators

[sullen gull]

Though, I think re-reading it, I get what you're saying lol.

[nova ridge]

How do you organize belts pipes under the foundation? It’s hard to see where I’m going

[slender bear]

damn. This heavy modular frame factory I'm looking at the plans for is... not trivial

[ember moon]

wdym servers restart in 60 minute- oh wait ive been playing for 16 hours...

[drowsy kelp]

How many HMFs are you trying to make a minute

[tired cypress]

Yes.

[slender bear]

Well, my computer factory has two manufacturers making the final product, so I punched in the numbers for four per minute into the calculator. Seems ambitious, to put it mildly

[drowsy kelp]

That’s a lotta screws

Cast and/or steel screws are good

[slender bear]

I have cast screws. Love them.

Even if casting is too imprecise for screws IRL, but we'll ignore that.

[drowsy kelp]

I got them as one of my first few HDDs on my local save

Took like 30 HDDs on friend’s server to get them

[dense violet]

don't build the top foundations first

[drowsy kelp]

That was painful

[drowsy kelp]

Under as in on a floor below or under as in hanging from the ceiling

Press B to toggle the flashlight

[nova ridge]

How do you know where the place the pipes if the top foundation and buildings aren’t there? Anyone make a nice video?

[slender bear]

point is, four HMFs per minute seems ambitious. Even two requires a huge input of resources, but I don't see any other way around it.

[drowsy kelp]

Double the time

[sullen gull]

Buldings come first personally.

But, I also make them as single machines with most things already attached: #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Totally right, should probably do 10 to play it safe! 😏

[slender bear]

You remind me of a friend of mine - ten per minute is utter insanity

Yeah, that's four to ten mk3 miners, which I don't even have yet

[sullen gull]

What's your max belt speed currently?

[spare cradle]

I wish there were smaller and hallway able lights

[slender bear]

mk4 - 480 units/min

[tired cypress]

there are signs

[sullen gull]

Have you picked up steel screws yet by chance?

[slender bear]

I have not, no

[sullen gull]

Nm, read back, sorry

[sullen gull]

Planning on any overclocking?

[thin spear]

Hello, im new here and its my first time making a large factory, and in on part i make 6 rotors that i have to split off into two lines, one where there are 2 rotors and one where there are 4, does anyone know how to do this? I cant get it to work with splitters unless i have a constant stream of them which i wont...

[sullen gull]

Or using Wet concrete or Pure/leeched iron ingot?

[slender bear]

oh for... I can't get back into the game because steam is down

[sullen gull]

Doh

[ornate saffron]

having that issue with path to exile.

[drowsy kelp]

Steam is what

[slender bear]

Steam goes down for maintenance every tuesday. It always catches me off guard. Seems to be back now tho

[ornate saffron]

i didnt know that

[tacit canyon]

neither did I

[ember moon]

OMG WHY DO VERSATILE FRAMEWORKS TAKE SO LONg

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[ornate saffron]

youll need a total of 5390 to compley all phases..... get used to making them lol

[eager harbor]

Well cuz…

[eager harbor]

Just manually feed the assemblers and use 3 power shards on each and overclock to max

[ember moon]

I HAVE 10 OF THEM

[eager harbor]

Overclock the 10 and manually feed them ez

Unless u don’t have enough steel?

[ember moon]

I have enough steel to feed them 10 times over

[eager harbor]

Well ye just overclock

And manually feed them

[ember moon]

all of them are oced

all of them have 2 somers in

I am spending 20 somersloops and its still slow

[eager harbor]

how many frameworks do u need

[ember moon]

5390 as @ornate saffron said

[ornate saffron]

over the course of the whole game mind you

[ember moon]

oh yeah I know that

[slender terrace]

C̵̛̈́̓͝ő̷͒͒̈́n̴͕̎̽ͅs̵̔͂͛͒ų̷͍̮̒m̸̀͌̽͝e

[ember moon]

im just stock piling them for later

[slender terrace]

Hello. I just downloaded Satisfactory like... 5 days ago? I can't put it down.

[ornate saffron]

ya, i only play wehen i have no resposibilities for that reason

[ember moon]

Ah so I forgot to actually connect my steel beam lines to the versatile frameworks machines

400 versatile frameworks per minute here wee go

[slender terrace]

I just got done building 2 Oil Refinery setups on a couple Pure nodes on the west coast. One the Polymer Resin route for 5k MW Power and one the Heavy Oil Residue route for byproduct supply.

Then I unlocked recipes for Polyester Fabric and Diluted Packaged Fuel, which required me to overhaul both systems.

This took 3 days of my life.

[true mulch]

Remember to eat and sleep sometimes

[obsidian quail]

optional activities

[ember moon]

Thants for reminding me sleep is a thin- 17 HOURS

TODAY?????

I SPEND 17 HOURS ON A FUCKING VIDEO GAME

[true mulch]

Poly resin for power? You can get the most out of oil by using the HOR alt and then diluted (packaged) fuel

[true mulch]

Try 2000

[ember moon]

Today'

[slender terrace]

Didn't have alt recipes yet.

[ember moon]

btw

[slender terrace]

Then I got them.

Which is why I had to overhaul.

[drowsy condor]

I am doing a similar project right there, right now! And I don't have either of those alts so I am sure I will soon be in your shoes lol

[placid stirrup]

Well into oil within the first 5 days of playing is commendable. 5GW btw 😉

[unkempt blade]

I hope you at least used factory carts otherwise you have a problem

[drowsy condor]

I might try to plan ahead.... laughs in Pioneer

[slender terrace]

I love riding the Explorer around.

[ember moon]

what do you mean by factory carts before I go "what?"

[ornate saffron]

its fun

[wispy osprey]

I think it took me 2 days to do all of my necessary oil research while making my first turbofuel plant

[placid stirrup]

Planning ahead is for the 3rd playthrough and beyond

[unkempt blade]

you unlock them at the awesome shop

[drowsy condor]

Ah yes, I am only on my second. So I can continue to spaghetti

[ember moon]

I have not unlocked the awsome shop this playthrough

[placid stirrup]

Enjoy the floating platform factories!

[obsidian quail]

I just keep wiping out my entire factories each new stage "oh i need what now, this mess will not work, re work!"

[unkempt blade]

and you're 17hr+ in? 🤯

[wispy osprey]

My spaghetti is more like weaving fabric

[drowsy condor]

So I am very much aware of this method, but for some reason I just cant do it

[ember moon]

This is my 7th playthrough of the game

[wispy osprey]

If i go through this game again I'll stick to the ground as much as possible

[unkempt blade]

stop wasting your life binge-playing satisfactory without factory carts when you should be wasting your life playing it WITH factory carts!

[ember moon]

As soon as I get to phase 2 my first factory becomes my resource factory and then my 2nd factory becomes the neat and tidy one

[ornate saffron]

make tony hawks factory cart 2

[wispy osprey]

Seeing the flood of factory carts going out carrying nuclear waste

[ember moon]

whats a good early game resource I could sink

like easily craftable in a bundance

[drowsy condor]

mmmm, fabric spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

sam

[drowsy condor]

SAM Ore or something stupid like rods

[wispy osprey]

Copper sheet is a good one to overflow sink

[ornate saffron]

i just loaded up my bio generators and build a small sam factory under the Grasslands Arch. time to go on a adventure for hardrives. And the blade runners in the dogo cave

[placid stirrup]

What's the current strategy?

[placid stirrup]

Everything is good to overflow sink wym

[wooden geyser]

im trying to get into a cave complex in north west has a mercer sphere inside but despite using 100 Nobelisk only the outer boulders have blown,, is this a bugged cave? or do i need something else? only appears to be one entrance

[drowsy condor]

Smaller satilite factories everywhere. I still use foundations and walls, I just cant do the giant floating island

[wispy osprey]

Yes

[rich wing]

Found a use for batteries

[placid stirrup]

A great snack

[rich wing]

As a capacitor bank for geothermal generators

To smoothe the power flow

[placid stirrup]

Ohh you mean power storage

[rich wing]

The only problem is waiting for 3x8 minutes per generator

Before hooking it up to something

[placid stirrup]

'Batteries' are a different item

[river ingot]

Yeah sounds like power storage
Really cool use of it though

[rich wing]

Not my fault they look like a duracell

[ember moon]

My server reset itself okay

[placid stirrup]

I don't know that

[robust brook]

[ember moon]

yayy 400 versatile frameworks per minute

yipee

[magic rune]

for fluid stations, is it better for throughput to set as "Stay at station until train is fully loaded/unloaded"? it hit me that having it load/unload "whatever we got" (meaning more load cycles per 400/m, same as putting more trains on the same line) might be why i'm having such inconsistent throughput numbers, and might be why my turbofuel plant keeps breaking...

[glass pagoda]

Its better to not use fluid stations as your only source of fual

Or just ask the fluid to freeze

[peak wasp]

I just noticed something that might be applicable to Satisfactory while playing an unrelated factory game (Shapez).

If you feed a two ingredient manifold system from opposite ends, the warm-up is faster.

[ember moon]

also if you just overload the system its even faster

if your waiting around in early stages of the game I dont think your playing it right

at all

[magic rune]

shapez does say "THIS IS NOT AN IDLE GAME", the same logic kinda applies to SF too

[ember moon]

im only waiting around cause I just want phase 2 done so I can sleep

Ive done 2 phases in one day

help

my alarms in 5 and a half hours plase let me just finish

[spare cradle]

The only thing I wait on is Hard drives if I have no idea what to start

[golden nexus]

you can alays mes around with blueprints etc...

[glass pagoda]

Im going to ask yall somthing pls answer

[spare cradle]

I need to lol, probably set up my storage node as just a node for building and a lil museum for blueprints.

[golden nexus]

I just finished phase 5 🙂

1 mam tree item left todo and also the nut

[spare cradle]

I have my versatile frames done bc I had a fact for them, but I need to set up the rest soon.

[golden nexus]

Also, Have not touched a sigle node in the dune desert yet

[glass pagoda]

What is your favorite cave entrance type :3 and why

A. Normal

B. Hole in the ceiling so you Parachute

C. Behind rocks

D. Behind some vines

E. Behind a waterfall

F. Behind flat rocks

G. Under flat rocks aka B but with flat rocks

Im talking about breakable rocks btw

[spare cradle]

B, but with the Jetpack.

[glass pagoda]

Why b

[eager harbor]

Behind waterfall

It reminds me of my dream childhood cave

Wherr I wanted a secret room under a waterfall in Minecraft

[zenith spire]

It has took me a month to realize that all the different “starting points” are starting points within the map, not different maps

[eager harbor]

I thought the same

[peak wasp]

H. The one you gotta power slide into.

[spiral lake]

stage 5 in a hour is it good

[zenith spire]

Yeah I was exploring the desert area for the first time then when I built a hypertube cannon, I quickly realized that was false. Rip

[golden nexus]

you mean hub upgrades right?

[spiral lake]

No

[peak wasp]

Project Assembly only has four stages.

[golden nexus]

It has 5 Phases

[spiral lake]

thats what they want you to think

[magic rune]

in terms of "increase complexity before sinking", is there anything i can do to improve fabric or rubber that involves no other ingredients? like i'm turning excess plastic into gas cans, fill them with water, and sink those...

[golden nexus]

Points list https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink

[smoky trench]

should i make a 1.2km conveyor or a train for a single item

[golden nexus]

Depends on the item and if the track segment is going to be reused

[smoky trench]

probably wont reuse the track and its for like 100 coper sheet per minute

[magic rune]

there's a bit of throughput loss when training things, like maybe 5-10% due to load/unload delay

[golden nexus]

No

[glass pagoda]

Just accidentally pressed record on my phone and now there is a ten minute voice recording of me talking about heavy frames that was sent to my ex and I only noticed when she texted me back telling me to "never do drugs again"

Im fucked

[strong fiber]

😭

Atleast it was ur ex

[smoky trench]

trying to make heavy frames feels like lsd to me when i tried to do it all in my head

[strong fiber]

Heavy frame light work in the mind yall bugging

[smoky trench]

the fractions n sheeit be hard

[strong fiber]

Overclock / underclock

[smoky trench]

thats more fractions

[strong fiber]

no

Just gotta be better than the machine

[magic rune]

type throughput numbers directly into the output field

[smoky trench]

one thing is i dont like to underclock/overclock just one machine

[strong fiber]

The ops outside bro someone must of did something crazy theres like 10

oh hell naw

[magic rune]

...interesting. freight platform locking is per train car. if a station is set to Wait For Full Unload, and one platform had room but the other doesn't, the train will unload the one car, remain in place, and keep the other platform and car locked until it can unload.

[strong fiber]

not gonna lie u got me messed up if u think im automating all space elevator parts

I only automated nuclear pasta because i need it for phase 5 i

[magic rune]

is handcraft% a speedrun category yet

also hypertube tee junctions are so unintuitive as to which way they're going to default-send you, and by the time you see the highlight of the selected direction you've already passed the thang ding

[sour jewel]

So huge question will satisfactory ever get cross-play between pc and console?

[golden nexus]

probably not, console can't keep up

[abstract gull]

has anyone beaten the game without using any form of automation? Are people insane enough for that?

[dry cradle]

you cant

you cant handcraft Phase 2 parts and above

[magic rune]

space elevator parts categorically can't be handcrafted, nor can anything to do with fluids

a "conveyor belt-less" run is theoretically possible. pipeless, absolutely not

i think someone once tried to do the opposite, an "automation ONLY" run where handcrafting is outright disabled. have to skip onboarding and get super lucky with finding debris at crash sites, but if you're able to get enough basic infra built, a no-handcrafting run can be done

[placid stirrup]

What would prevent progression if you don't find early items at crash sites? Last I checked I thought nothing was 'soft-locked' from achieving milestones after the tutorial

[magic rune]

it's specifically to do with finding enough materials to build your first machines

[placid stirrup]

Ahhh fair point. Is that really the case?! I have historically always hand crafted for that purpose but that's kind of crazy if you have to hand craft the materials to build the machine the makes said materials

[magic rune]

can't remember who did the run (i watch at least a dozen "can you do $weirdchallenge" youtubers), but i know they had to make an exception for miners, as you can't do anything without handcrafting them in the equipment workshop (only the crafting bench was locked out)

[wispy osprey]

Does more load decrease acceleration on trains. I personally want to run at most 12 cars per single line

[placid stirrup]

Truuuue. So no equipables then either?

[wispy osprey]

My first train line is 9 cars

[magic rune]

you need one engine per 4 cars, is the general rule of thumb (can get away with more if your line has no steep hills)

[placid stirrup]

Rule of thumb is 4 full cars per loco on a 2m incline

[magic rune]

equippables are all equipment workshop, which was fair game

[placid stirrup]

Gotcha, misinterpreted the challenge haha mb

[wispy osprey]

What about 100% flat foundation

[magic rune]

but yeah, until you find 2x reinforced plate 8x cable at a crash site, you can't make even your first constructor

[placid stirrup]

I don't know of a limitation on freights for a perfectly level track. People have tried and have done over 100

[placid stirrup]

Actually sounds kind of fun. I'd be curious to see what other machines fall under the same constraint

[hybrid nymph]

I never do more than 4 cars, there is no limit as far as I know, just 4 cars per locomotive

[wispy osprey]

I'm planning around no inclines

[hybrid nymph]

How many cars do you want?

[wispy osprey]

My first pickup line is 9 sending out

That's fine and still has the same max speed?

[hollow onyx]

ive been unlocking stuff in the mam through satisfactory calculator website and now my game is crashing randomly could it be because im unlocking things without getting the prerequisites

[placid stirrup]

Yes

[wispy osprey]

If i know the max speed I can route how far the train can go, it takes ~10 minutes total to fully load a freight.

I need the round trip to take about 10-12 minutes at most

With my current 480 belts*

[placid stirrup]

Play ze game

[hollow onyx]

its like my 4th time unlocking these things im lazy

im thinking its cause i had 7 inventory slots and im pretty sure the max is 6

hand inventory*

[wispy osprey]

I don't think i wanna do MAM research again if I play the game again

[versed cosmos]

that genuinely sounds like the least fun way to play that's still reasonable

[drowsy kelp]

so no blade runners, no zipline, only mk1 power pole?

no explosives

you're gonna need quickwire sooner or later

[peak wasp]

You can get blade runners without researching it.

[hollow onyx]

i just want to skip everything that cant be automated

[acoustic tapir]

Hey mates, do y'all know if Nobelisks are something made up for Satisfactory?
I've never heard the word outside of the game.
||I feel like they're basically just fancy pipe bombs, and I can understand not wanting to use that term.||

[drowsy kelp]

i'm not exactly sure how you're supposed to do that

[acoustic tapir]

by automating!

[hollow onyx]

for the mam i would just skip satisfactory calculator like im doing now

[drowsy kelp]

as in the word nobelisk?

[acoustic tapir]

Yeah. I kind of assumed it was a specific type of bomb or something, but I haven't seen it anywhere else.

[drowsy kelp]

afaik it's a coffee stain creation

like a bunch of other things

[dense violet]

Sounds derived from a Scandinavian word

[obsidian quail]

play however you want, no-one cares what you do for your own enjoyment in game.

[wispy osprey]

Waiting 10 minutes to roll for 2 hours is fun

Truly tantalizing gameplay

Hard drives are kind of a sour point for me

[versed cosmos]

scan as youre finding them

also the rest of the mam is awesome

[wispy osprey]

That and blueprints because of not being able to make a 6×6 perfectly symmetrical rail roundabout or intersection

[versed cosmos]

blueprints are still great

[wispy osprey]

Until much later in the game*

[versed cosmos]

build your roundabout or intersection in 4 pieces

or 1 piece that's placed 4 times, just rotated

[hybrid nymph]

Yes, that's correct

[wispy osprey]

I should have straights and turns split up then and piece it together too

Again because I want them to connect perfectly symmetrical

But the game wants me to struggle with that for as long as possible

[versed cosmos]

i do think there should just be one blueprint designer that's the size of the mk3

although i also fdel likebyoure letting one limitation or annoyance with something ruin the entire thing

like without the mam you get no smart splitters or mk2 power poles or overclocking

blueprints are great even if the blueprint is just 2 refineries with pipeline junctions at the inputs and outputs. that cuts the time it takes to build something in half.

[worldly marsh]

Hey I just joined because I'm having issues with a train network setup and I'm wondering if this is the right place and if anyone could help? It's a bidirectional network with one rail, then I have two slip junctions along the way. I could just make it two rails but at this point im really invested and I'd hate to give up. I've gotten it to the point where they smush up against one another etc but for some reason I can't get them to reserve a path around the train occupying the 1 side of it. I've looked at no joke like 15 tutorials and none of them have covered this case and I can't figure it out using the rules/explanations in the videos.

willing to do further explaantion/screenshots if this is the right place/anyone willing to help, ik that wasn't a very good explanation and I apologize

[dense violet]

Thats because bidirectional rail is extremely obnoxious and murders train throughput when you have more than one train on the line

[worldly marsh]

Sad. I only have two trains, figure that's all I'll need.

[dense violet]

Totally fine if you only ever want 1 train on the line

[worldly marsh]

Yeah but at that point I could just do a push pull without any signalling or anything lol

[dense violet]

What’s the highest tier you’ve unlocked?

[worldly marsh]

uhhhh lemme check, I'm at phase 3 rn, just unlocked the last upgrade before I have to progress to the next phase

I think that answers the question actually

[dense violet]

Ok so you can , and imo should, treat the milestones like a tutorial

You learn and play with different ideas

[worldly marsh]

fs

[golden nexus]

pour the information into #1038092680493801533 trains can be both complex or simple

[worldly marsh]

ty

[dense violet]

And figure things out more when youver unlocked everything and turn it more into a sand box

Train’s super power is they take a lot of infrastructure to use, but you can them just slap on more lines and run lots of them on the same rail

[sturdy pivot]

are there other hidden nodes like the pure limestone in the NW corner?

[worldly marsh]

done

[soft marsh]

#screenshots message Saw a machine that makes microchips was literally just a box and got inspired to make a box. I hate it lmao

[strong fiber]

I reached phase 5

Lets gooooooooo

[upper gale]

Make it a fancier box I guess

[strong fiber]

Wtf is a ficsite trigon

Fuh is a time crystal

[upper gale]

Stuff™️

[soft marsh]

lol I did, put some windows on it so looks a bit better but will probably be the only box I make

[strong fiber]

I just wanted mk 6 conveyers

😭

[acoustic tapir]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal

[strong fiber]

Imma need to make a temporary setup to make these things

Imma get oil based diamonds and turn them into time crystals

Imma go build some ficsite stuff in the desert

[hybrid nymph]

I haven't gotten to tier 9 yet. I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm still on tier 7

I'm not even at nuclear power yet

[strong fiber]

I need mk6 conveyors for nuclear power

[hybrid nymph]

There's Mark 6 conveyor belts? I thought the maximum was Mark 5

[strong fiber]

Yes

Tier 9

[hybrid nymph]

I've never made it past tier 8 on any of my saves so far

[strong fiber]

This my first ever save

[hybrid nymph]

This is my 5th save

[acoustic tapir]

I just started a new file yesterday. This time for sure. 🤞

[hybrid nymph]

My first save: pig benis, was one I did in 2023 when the game was still in early access

[strong fiber]

I wanted to atleast finish the game once

[acoustic tapir]

heh

me too, mate

me too

[hybrid nymph]

I stopped at tier 8 on that save because that was the highest tier on early access

My second save: factorytastic, I got to tier 8 and stopped

My third save: another crap factory, I got to tier 7 then stopped

My fourth save: Too fast Too Factory, I stopped at tier 3

[acoustic tapir]

Oh, was it? I didn't really see all of the new stuff at launch or with 1.1; other than, well... you know...
|| & functionality. ||

[hybrid nymph]

And now my fifth save: Beer Towne: I am on tier 7 currently

[wispy osprey]

I'll make a comparison of my early game vs my current knowledge soon

I was pretty dumb

[acoustic tapir]

so, too, were we all

[wispy osprey]

I mean I'm still dumb, just less dumb

[hybrid nymph]

In my first two saves I was just figuring things out, I was pretty dumb too

[acoustic tapir]

We didn't even know about the world grid!

[hybrid nymph]

I didn't even use foundations on that save, I just placed everything on the ground

I wasn't even using Choo choos I was still using trucks for transportation

[wispy osprey]

Currently my design changer is under belts but I'm still not sure about under pipes

[drowsy condor]

I just made Modular Engines for the first time ever, on 5th save.

[hybrid nymph]

So you've never been past tier 6 before?

[tired cypress]

Every new build I go "...why wasn't I doing it this way before?"

[wispy osprey]

Early game: the ground is my friend, nothing was modular, and math was terrible

Mid Phase 2: modular!! No wait... mega.... nah, modular! Uhhh

Phase 2: the sky is my friend but I still don't know how to do basic math, my first "mega factory" was a massive mess

Phase 3 part 1: coal gens are easy, and i can decide what to turn on and off or overflow production

Phase 3 part 2: what the hell even is my turbofuel setup, what?!

Honestly I'll stop here

This is too much to think about

[soft marsh]

I like to kinda just throw stuff together and then as I go, reorganize and make better

[wispy osprey]

Currently belting everything under production is my next game changer

[soft marsh]

In the middle of redoing my mini nuke setup

[upper gale]

"Logistics floor" yeah?

Below your machines

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah there is a lot to think about

I have 362 tickets is that a lot?

[wispy osprey]

Yes, that's my next idea

[soft marsh]

I gave logistics floors a go and they ended up being a nightmare for me

[acoustic tapir]

It's enough for most of what you'll want.

[placid stirrup]

I've become more partial to vertical shafts for the logistics

[wispy osprey]

Luckily I haven't designed my next big factory yet

[hybrid nymph]

I've only going to cheat one time. That's to get the gold nut statue. I feel like getting halfway there with 500 tickets legitimately is good enough

[wispy osprey]

Having belts on the floor itself is easier but having to jump over them is kinda ehhhh

[placid stirrup]

You decide where things punch through/out and it's easier to decide the elevation of belts and whatnot

[wispy osprey]

What about pipes

[placid stirrup]

Same deal

Though pipes typically go to the lowest levels possible

[wispy osprey]

Just remember that sending them in a junction upwards is not a good idea

Unless you actually know how fluids work

[placid stirrup]

What does this even mean

[upper gale]

Hehehe

It's either really bad or really good

[wispy osprey]

Junctions carry fluids but there's no way to see this in game

The weld facing direction shows which part of the junction actually sends the most water

[upper gale]

-# We won't talk about the vertical junction bug though

[wispy osprey]

There's more to this nonsense because fluids have volume but everything else is a flat value

Which also can't be seen in game

It can be rigorously tested though

[placid stirrup]

I've read enough of the basics in the Pible to generally not deviate from them, didn't know about issues with splitting a horizontal branch off a vertical pipe

[acoustic tapir]

Tickets are easy. Once you've got reliable power, just set up little automated factory at a SAM site, throwin' it or it's progeny right into a wood chipper Sink, and you'll have all the tickets you could want.

[wispy osprey]

I need to read it myself before I make aluminum

[placid stirrup]

It does include optimal strategies for aluminum within

[zenith shard]

hello!!!! im new!!

just bought the game :)))

its a really confusing game lol

[placid stirrup]

I'm sorry for your loss (of social life)

[wispy osprey]

My current pipeline knowledge is just a basic understanding.

No pipe manifolds, just take the inputs and add them to 600m³ and work from there

[zenith shard]

but I don't get it, why is it so slow

[soft marsh]

Welcome! It gets easier as you go, just enjoy the early stages and wonder of it lol

[wispy osprey]

Straight line split outputs

[zenith shard]

(im a minecraft veteran btw)

[fluid crow]

do as the robot says

[zenith shard]

but seriously, mining speed is so slow

[upper gale]

The onboarding/tutorial is very slow (and boring to me) but I guess you should get through it since it's your first time

[zenith shard]

I think I need bombs like in terraria

[placid stirrup]

That will help a little bit, especially with space planning and logistics. The main difference is you want to automate most things 🙂

[wispy osprey]

I like the intro to this game

[zenith shard]

hmm so I can't get a better pickaxe etc?

[fluid crow]

you need to prove you deserve better miners

[zenith shard]

it feels kinda boring, pressing E and waiting for like 10 minutes

[placid stirrup]

*only manifolds haha
And pushing the max through Mk2 pipes can be unreliable

[fluid crow]

heavens no, you get auto miners

[zenith shard]

its a good thing you can use ctrl on the table bench though

[upper gale]

Yeah they just want you to feel the pain of doing things manually. That way you see the value of automating it later

[hybrid nymph]

Sounds to me like you're just starting out. Use portable miners

The beginning of the game starts out really slow

[acoustic tapir]

Oh man, that's how prostitution works, too.

[wispy osprey]

Why unreliable? I've heard that 580m³ per/min is the common average

[zenith shard]

hmmm can't I just go and do things manually?

[upper gale]

When you can though, make some portable miners

[zenith shard]

I don't dabble in redstone much when I played minecraft lol

[fluid crow]

the portable miners drill then you pick the stacks up out of it

so it is pretty manual

[wispy osprey]

Pipe manifolds are a trap, don't fall for them

[upper gale]

We do have bombs that we do haveee

[zenith shard]

and is there like, some centralize statistics in the game?

[wispy osprey]

Unless a specific output needs to manifold like in a fuel generator

[placid stirrup]

Something around that, probably higher when potential issues are minimized. But that's exactly it, best case scenario your factory stutters a bit, worst case you lock up production

[smoky trench]

satisfactory doesnt have air resistance right?

[acoustic tapir]

That's how I use manifold systems.
They're so much simpler than real load balancers. The only complaint folks have is how long they take to get stocked, which is why I just manually stock them initially. 🤷‍♂️

[placid stirrup]

For what purpose are you asking?

[wispy osprey]

Physics are pretty basic

[smoky trench]

just general travel or maybe a glitch

[wispy osprey]

Hypertube cannons

[placid stirrup]

Did you have that idea yourself or did you see it from somewhere?

[smoky trench]

partially cannons but also some weird conveyor physics that can send you flying for a tiny bit

[zenith shard]

I have to admit this game is really interesting lol

[smoky trench]

just seen some weird interactions in some spots

[placid stirrup]

We're about to expand your mind

[wispy osprey]

It's carrying your momentum from the push

[smoky trench]

what is?

[wispy osprey]

Your walking on a conveyor, both of those speed values add together and when you jump

Airtime

[acoustic tapir]

You do not ignite the atmosphere around yourself as you approach .001c, if that's what you're asking.

[smoky trench]

oh ik that conveyor speed adds with running speed

[placid stirrup]

This is true and tested

[smoky trench]

im talking like meshing into a foundation or the ground and then getting flung out at like 300 kmh

[acoustic tapir]

Like in every Bethesda game, gotcha.

[placid stirrup]

No need, the resources to do that exist in the base game

Do you have hypertubes unlocked?

[upper gale]

Me when the skyrim troll smacks me 100ft into the air

[wispy osprey]

I don't think there's anything like that in the game

[smoky trench]

you need power for them is the problem

i have hypertubes

[acoustic tapir]

sometimes

[wispy osprey]

They take up so little power, and are easy to build

[fluid crow]

power lines is the poor mans hyper tube

[placid stirrup]

Yes but you can blueprint the mechanism anywhere

[smoky trench]

the power part is the problem with that bc if i dont wanna use my grid i have to use a biomass burner

[placid stirrup]

I would like to see if you can glitch launch yourself though, let me know if you make it happen

[wispy osprey]

Power towers across the map resources that you're guaranteed to use is a good idea

[acoustic tapir]

Just include one in the blueprint. 🤷‍♂️

[placid stirrup]

If you have factories all across the map you can make a sort of industrial archipelago

[fluid crow]

run power towers then you will have power and can zipline them🤷

[smoky trench]

i havent gotten through the whole map quite yet

[wispy osprey]

I spent a day doing that, the world map is actually very amazing

The amount of love care and detail is very clear

[placid stirrup]

It would be a game changer if you could devise a powerless launcher, you wouldn't have to run back from expeditions

[acoustic tapir]

||jetpack||

[zenith shard]

what should I do right now after finishing the tutorial??

[smoky trench]

ive found only one single mesh wall in the game

[zenith shard]

do I start saving up for the space elevator?

[smoky trench]

mesh wall being stretched wall

[acoustic tapir]

You won't really "save up". You just kind of... get there?

[upper gale]

I legit haven't thought of this for some reason. Fantastic, I think I'll try making a blueprint for that sometime

[fluid crow]

just enjoy yourself, but the space elevator will give you cool new stuff

[acoustic tapir]

Just pin the recipe for it, and eventually you'll suddently notice that you can build it.

That's when you're ready to build it.

[smoky trench]

ok so why did i just make a hypertube circle and it shoved me below the map..

its a consistent interaction..

[wispy osprey]

That's been known, hypertubes can clip under ground

With certain setups*

[strong fiber]

I make 30 time crystals and like 225 ficsite trigons/min is that enough for belts fr

It uses like 20,000 MW btw

[wispy osprey]

Make those, fill a dimensional depot, profit

Your essential parts should always, always go to a dimensional depot. Never having to actually grab parts to build with is a game changer

[abstract heron]

is Plutoiums Fuel Rod in Nuclear reactor are they good or bad?

[acoustic tapir]

It just feels so convoluted when you first set it up; it almost feels like it becomes the focus of the whole game.

[wispy osprey]

Plutonium rods are a step up from uranium rods

I think?

[smoky trench]

i got a nice view of the world now

[abstract heron]

Yes but are they worth it

[smoky trench]

made a fully enclosed hypertube cannon with a branch to leave and it flung my past world height but i saw it for a bit

[wispy osprey]

I've never seen it brought up, I'd have to reach that point to find out

I know that waste recycling is considered an actual energy net loss right?

[acoustic tapir]

Until you can reliably recycle the waste, I recommend avoiding Nuclear power.

[wispy osprey]

Isn't it just make all the alts, feed what you can and sink the rest?

As long as it isn't a net loss of power

[acoustic tapir]

You can't sink nuclear waste.

You can flush it, piece by piece. 🚽

[bitter parrot]

question anyone have lag issues in multiplayer games?

[acoustic tapir]

yeah, everyone

... right?

[bitter parrot]

like unplayable lvls of rubberbanding?

[acoustic tapir]

oh, usually not, no

[wispy osprey]

The alt recipe recycling can be sank, I've heard that's a good idea when you need to have a net gain

No net gain, no nuclear power

[acoustic tapir]

(because I'm usually hosting)

[wispy osprey]

Iirc no one's said they've made a full plutonium plant

[bitter parrot]

i dont have the issues in a singleplay save but as soon as i get in a multi game its crap

[hard stump]

So putting liquids directly into trails VS packaging it first which one what’s the pros and cons of both?

[acoustic tapir]

same for me whenever I join someone else's game

[zenith shard]

hmm I can't share pics here?

oh well I sent it at £screenshots

[acoustic tapir]

I just post 'em in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057 then link to 'em there. 🤷

[charred spire]

gravity for one

[zenith shard]

#screenshots *

[acoustic tapir]

#screenshots

[zenith shard]

how do you link up stuff from another channel?

[acoustic tapir]

I right-click the comment, then click Copy > Copy Message Link

On my phone I hold it down for a sec, but otherwise, same process.

[hard stump]

Ok so gravity is really the only con at all…?

[acoustic tapir]

haha

[zenith shard]

#screenshots message

[acoustic tapir]

into trails?

[zenith shard]

TIL lol

[hard stump]

Trains

[acoustic tapir]

That factory is gorgeous.

[zenith shard]

wait really? x)

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
almost got coal power!

[runic path]

i just finished phase 2 for the first time what should i unlock first i wanna get into fuel power as quickly as possible

[zenith shard]

took me a while to figure out how conveyors work

[acoustic tapir]

Yeah! I've never really been in the Southern region much.

[hard stump]

Ok so somehow there’s no difference between packing liquids and just putting them directly into a train other then gravity feel like that’s a bit off but ok

[zenith shard]

doing silly stuff here though #screenshots message

[zenith shard]

I just started a few hours ago :D

[acoustic tapir]

I always start havin' to see this all around:
#screenshots message

I just started a new game, but that green is really appealing.

[zenith shard]

:OOO

[strong fiber]

What do u mean bruh

[zenith shard]

omg, I need to remake my factory then

[strong fiber]

Packaging liquids gives higher throughput

[upper gale]

I think packaging will have more capacity overall, not 100% sure on this but yeah

[acoustic tapir]

Sorry mate, I'm just not familiar enough with the subject; I've never trained, y'dig? I've never even successfully trucked.

[strong fiber]

Nitrogen gas packages 4x

It goes 4:1

[acoustic tapir]

Don't liquids need their own special cars? Packaged, you could just store 'em with everything else without using dedicated wet storage, although maybe not as much at a time...

[strong fiber]

They need fluid cars

But i dont know what u meant

[acoustic tapir]

That does sound better than wet storage.

[strong fiber]

wet storage is wild bruh

Also i have 1 fluid train in my whole world

And its for crude oil because

I needed it

[hard stump]

Ok that’s what I was asking but god forbid a typo I guess thank your for answering like a normal human being

[acoustic tapir]

But avoiding needing dedicated fluid cars would be reason enough for me to package them first.

[strong fiber]

If you open a packager and select a packaging recipe then you will see the ratios of fluid per packaged fluid in this case a 6:1 ratio is alot better than a 3:1 because it compresses less

If that makes any sense

Balright so while i was afk my game crashed

This is awesome

[smoky trench]

the dedicated fluid cars arent the hard part its just that if you need higher throughput you package

[zenith shard]

LOL stuck #screenshots message

[fluid crow]

you need the boombox

[zenith shard]

what's that

[strong fiber]

You aren’t serious bro😭

[fluid crow]

that's the most humane thing I've found to do about those damn things

[strong fiber]

Boom boom to their forehead they run away

[fluid crow]

but just hypothetically speaking is there like a more permanent way to get rid of them?

[zenith shard]

how can I funnel all resources into one chest?

[strong fiber]

Merger

[zenith shard]

but only 1 input lane...

[strong fiber]

Merger

[wispy osprey]

I've figured out out, no one makes plutonium because the waste needs to store

[strong fiber]

You man make ficsonium

[wispy osprey]

That's a tier after plutonium

[strong fiber]

Yes

[wispy osprey]

I guess it depends on how long you take to reach the final tier

[strong fiber]

Im in phase 5 working on nuclear

So i can make everything

[fluid crow]

but those cow giraffe things love the turbo bass 🪩

[zenith shard]

and one chunk can only have 1 smelter? ;_;

[strong fiber]

Cooked

[wispy osprey]

Do you use raw uranium for the alt too or just take the bullet and use more acids and silica

[fluid crow]

wot

[strong fiber]

I never made a nuclear plant before😭

[zenith shard]

like how many smelters can you do at one ore place?

[strong fiber]

It depends

[wispy osprey]

Unfortunate, I plan to

[strong fiber]

Im working on the aluminum for it rn

1800 aluminum ingots/min

[fluid crow]

the limit is in the hardware it's running on afaik

[wispy osprey]

That's a delicious amount

[strong fiber]

And i can make 600morecuz i got an extra node

Only if i need tho

[zenith shard]

where can I get more power btw?

[wispy osprey]

Extra power isn't a thing, there's always a set limit on power

It's just very very high

[fluid crow]

if you build the space elvator you get coal

[zenith shard]

I mean fuel

[strong fiber]

More crude oil

[zenith shard]

OHHH that would be a game changer!!

right now I have to chop trees LMAO

[strong fiber]

Oh

[wispy osprey]

I don't remember the command but coal gens are easy to do

[strong fiber]

Keep chopping trees until u get coal power

[leaden turret]

can convert creature parts to biomass, saves having to go in ever-expanding circles to chop trees

[wispy osprey]

Actually, cutting down big blue mushrooms is a massive biofuel gain

They're the best bio plant source in the game

[strong fiber]

Thats tech lowk

[leaden turret]

shrooms don't fight back.

the best biomass source in the game is revenge

[wispy osprey]

My revenge was turning mob aggression to retaliation

Hogs genuinely pissed me off this much

Never turning it back

[smoky trench]

has anybody else ever used enclosed hypertube circles with a branch to launch you out at max speed?

[wispy osprey]

They're just called hypertube cannons. It's even officially recognized by the devs as a part of the game

Bug became a feature

[zenith shard]

OMG I DIDN'T KNOW THERE'S OTHER BUILD MODE

no more spaghetti factory woohooooo

[smoky trench]

usually hypertube cannons are straight and you would need like 30 entrances to reach max speed

[wispy osprey]

Belts can go straight or curve, foundations can zoop or vertical. All buildings can snap to their hitboxes

[flint flame]

You can also do a q design too

[smoky trench]

thats basically what it is but i have to spam e to get out or else my frames start dropping

[flint flame]

Ooof the hypertube fps suckubus

[smoky trench]

gets me across like half the map in about a second though so its alright

[strong fiber]

I was looking at discord while driving and crashed into another train

This why we dont text and drive bruh

[placid stirrup]

Here's your court summons, if you fail to appear it will be taken as an admission of guilt

[zenith shard]

is there a way to rotate buildings?

[hollow onyx]

do you mean like rotate them past the 90 degree incriments

[zenith shard]

no I mean buildings already placed

[smoky trench]

i went too fast and now my textures wont render..

[zenith shard]

finally built a space elevator :))

[strong fiber]

I got mk6 belts

[strong fiber]

uh oh

[hybrid nymph]

about time lol, took you long enuff

[strong fiber]

Bro what

[hybrid nymph]

You have to write an explanatory letter

[strong fiber]

im slow ok my worlds only 145 hrs

[hybrid nymph]

To the creator of Satisfactory: I'm a dumbass, sorry

Justified

[acoustic tapir]

so, too, are we all

let us reflect upon this wisdom

||||

[open gust]

My coal power grid shut down and has no water :/

[hybrid nymph]

sucks to be you man! -Jim Breuer

[fluid crow]

back to bio

[acoustic tapir]

🐰 Never give up! Trust your instincts.

[strong fiber]

Why the resources look like they traveling backwards bruh

On mk 6 belts

[acoustic tapir]

you have a setting doing that

[fluid crow]

this sounds like a perfect time to consider what to do in the event of a cold power start

[strong fiber]

No i dont

[placid stirrup]

Charge up a big power storage bank and disconnect it

[hybrid nymph]

sounds like you don't have enuff water, sounds like you need more water pumps

[acoustic tapir]

Conveyor Visual Quality

[strong fiber]

Where that at

[fluid crow]

idk if hindsight works for that method

[acoustic tapir]

#screenshots message

[wispy osprey]

🐇 <- me fr fr

[open gust]

No. I accidentally unpowered my pumps while adding more gens

[strong fiber]

I lowk opened up setting and my game crashed

Ion think the game wants me to be happy today

[acoustic tapir]

|| ||

[wispy osprey]

My game has crashed opening my map with 200 markers on it

I'll set up radar towers i promise

[hybrid nymph]

oof that's not good, use some backup batteries to make sure your pumps are still online if you lose grid power

[acoustic tapir]

ＴＨＡＴ'Ｓ Ａ ＬＯＴ ＯＦ ＭＡＲＫＥＲＳ!!

[open gust]

I have two coal gens I forgot somewhere I’ll just use those as a jump start

[wispy osprey]

I've marked most of my pure nodes

I'll switch to just radar towers revealing nodes soon

[zenith shard]

what does it mean 30 per minute on 3 iron ingots? like it consumes 90 iron ingots per minute?

[acoustic tapir]

What says that?

[hybrid nymph]

are they overclocked?

[strong fiber]

Why

[wispy osprey]

It means exactly 30 per minute

[hybrid nymph]

no it consumes 3 iron ingots and 30 f them per minute

[plucky thorn]

Are u playing on ps or pc

[wispy osprey]

So i can highlight them easier

Radar towers show which nodes I'm actually collecting

[open gust]

Yeah. It’s just two running on a pure node and two separate pipes. They were the first I made

[open gust]

Console

[plucky thorn]

Add me bro

[fluid crow]

it uses 3 1 ingots every 2 seconds

[plucky thorn]

Ps5

[strong fiber]

Only worry about the 30 per minute in my opinion

[hybrid nymph]

you can have 5 of them on one pure node actually

[strong fiber]

The other number is just the amount is consumes or produces

[hybrid nymph]

with a mk3 belt you can have 5 overclocked coal gens

[open gust]

Good to know. Is that more power than 8 normal?

[hybrid nymph]

yes it is

each fully overclocked generator produces 187.5 MW but uses 113m^3 of water, so 1 pump per generator will suffice

5 overclocked generators will generate 937.5 MW

compared to 375 MW from them being non overclocked

[hollow onyx]

is 600 packaged rocket fuel good enough for drones ive never used them

[hybrid nymph]

yeah it's enuff

[hollow cobalt]

Hello. My friend and I play the game together. I'm having a slight problem. I'm only able to join his game after he fully loads the world and then I have to launch the game, then join his world. Is this intentional? Is there no way to refresh the list of possible games to join in the Join Game area?

[hybrid nymph]

are you on PC or sonsole?

[hollow cobalt]

PC

[hybrid nymph]

I never had that issue on my game, I was able to join the world as soon as it was loaded

sounds like you might need to check out the #1038092680493801533

[hollow cobalt]

alrighty, thank you

[smoky trench]

i made it to the space elevator

its very bleak

[open gust]

I’m good man. Prefer to learn the game myself. Can only experience the game the first time once

[acoustic tapir]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Sbarro in the food court is never gonna re-open. 🙁

[soft marsh]

Did they change sinking plutonium?

[zenith spire]

Time for a new beginning

I just started a brand new world evn tho I ain’t finished the game yet

[grizzled lotus]

for those that have played the planet crafter, do the drones in satisfactory behave similarily?

[hybrid nymph]

yeah I bet, you need to get better factory setup so it won't look that way

[zenith spire]

Me personally, I js run a conveyor to everything

But shit, i haven’t made it super far into the game yet

[grizzled lotus]

what phase have you reached

[soft marsh]

A lot more than I thought for nukes - need to go build a few additional factories and then train that stuff in to make sure I can properly dispose of everything

[nova ridge]

#screenshots message

what is the cpu 45/75% mean?

[fluid crow]

current usage and max

[soft marsh]

Anyone know how to get rid of that filter that gets applied at the swamp? Drives me nuts

[nova ridge]

ah

[hollow onyx]

why the freak is my gas flow randomly going from 585-600

no train or anything its like a direct pipe thats at most 50 foundations away

[sullen gull]

Because machines don't cycle perfectly all at the same rate.

[hollow onyx]

wdym

[sullen gull]

A machine "cycles" at certain intervals, depending on what they're doing. So, when a machine finishes a cycle (I'm assuming gens in this case) it consumes and then brings more gas into the bugger. If you have say 100 generators, needing a max flow of 600, it's very difficult to get them to all cycle at the exact same time, so you will see small variances in the flow rate.

If that makes sense (It's late)

[nova ridge]

im not the only one who thinks the blueprint system of satisfactory is pretty lackluster right? compared to dyson or factorio. especially when its already a bit challenging with the 3d aspect and overlaying aspect of building

[sullen gull]

No, but firstly it shouldn't be compared, this game is not the others and not ment to be. Secondly I find the blueprint system works very well, for the game that it's in.

My advice would be to try and sway away from the concept of trying to cram a whole factory in one 🤷‍♂️

[nova ridge]

definitely no reason not to compare similar concepts between games. but select, copy and paste isnt something that novel. making modular factories is a lot harder with the space they give us imo

i mean just another puzzle to solve but frustrating to me at times

i cant even look at an area and say yes i have 50 constructors here

[sullen gull]

For me it's about "modularity". And, simple machines like this with all the needed stuff attached greatly reduces time it takes to build things: #screenshots message and #screenshots message

[placid stirrup]

I mean with the dismantle filter they effectively have

[sullen gull]

Another reason I gather every slug I see and overclock everything, I would always rather build 10 constructors than 50 any day of the week. For a bit of extra power usages sure, But I go big on power personally so it's moot.

Last time I made a "normal" power plant, it took me roughly two days to do 200+GW

[nova ridge]

yeah im still on turbo fuel i think its not he last step right? but need 50 plants

well "want 50 plants" to use all my turbo fuel

[sullen gull]

No, there is more to go for sure.

[fickle oriole]

is there a way to tell how much headlift margin is left in a liquid pipe?

[nova ridge]

i know its a different game but some qol could still be improved. oh yeah like its not easy to tell what 20 m vs 50 m is.

for pipe pumps

but the game is super fun. makes me a little nauseated so i have to play in a windowed screen tho

[sullen gull]

It's very easy

You have beams, walls, foundations, pillars, and all have a "set" size.

I.e walls, are 4m high

Beams can be used like a tape measure up to 40m

Now, if you're running pipes up inclines, I can tend to agree.

But, still doable.

[nova ridge]

apparently i dont have beams. but 40 m is not 50 m

[sullen gull]

Painted Beams, under architecture.

[nova ridge]

must be a shop ting

[sullen gull]

What about Metal beam?

[nova ridge]

under archetecture i have lader an dmodern railing

[sullen gull]

Yeah, nm, I frgot you do have to buy them all.

Regardless, still have walls and foundations.

[frosty thistle]

I recommend water towers if it makes sense for what you are doing run pipes higher than machines with pumps and take water off that that way you only need pumps on the one set of pipes

[sullen gull]

Also, as for putting pumps on pipes, there is a bubble that should show at the next headlift, and you never want to snap the pipe to the bubble. Place it just before.

[nova ridge]

bubble?

[sullen gull]

Sec

Loading, but, to preface, the bubble only shows after a pump is already on the line btw

[nova ridge]

also is there a trick getting logistic parts to click end pieces? Like if theres a belt line or pipe line i can easier connect a pump or splitter. but if its end of a belt sometimes it looks like its connectin but it doesnt

[sullen gull]

You either need to use a pre-existing pipe segment, or you can use walls/foundations to place a pump first, then pipe to it

I.e, pumps (and junctions) can be snapped to walls and the sides/top of foundations.

Without needing a pipe

[sullen gull]

This: #screenshots message (Ignore my "cheat zooping" 😏 )

[nova ridge]

thats how ive been doing it but sometimes annoying to have to delete 3 belts to to replace them for each splitter

oh thanks for the video that makes sense now

[sullen gull]

Fyi, spiltters/mergers also snap to lifts and celinigs. Not ure if that helps things, j/s

But no, not for end. Unless maybe if it's blueprints with autoconnect. Otherwise, Belts and pipes are "typically" the last things I do in my builds. So that everything I want to connect to is already in place 🤷‍♂️

[nova ridge]

ah having that blueprint is prob most useful

oh yeah useful for lifts didnt know

[sullen gull]

You can also do some "trickery" and get stubby lifts 😛 #screenshots message

[reef basin]

I wouldn't recommend that, just use pumps normally

[nova ridge]

hmm when is that useful

[sullen gull]

Keeping things "compact" if wanted.

[nova ridge]

ah

i have yet to optimize my builds. feels like i got plenty of space and not a ton of resource needs yet

[sullen gull]

I would just keep trucking, learn optimization as you go and the next build can always be better than the last 🙂

[charred spire]

hey, first time playing the game and i cant for the love of me understand why my belts arent running smoothly when the inputs and outputs are the same. anyone willing to help?

[fluid crow]

belts going into machines probably won't

[sullen gull]

For stuff like this (Many different ways to utilize, and not only on machines though) : #screenshots message

[fluid crow]

since it won't feed anymore during the time it's making something

[nova ridge]

ah helps with the belt fucklery

[sullen gull]

It'll feed into the buffer at least, it's just that it has to have space 😛

[nova ridge]

plastic -> heavy -> fuel -> turbo -> burning it off seems more annoying that it needs to be

[charred spire]

so should i just smart splitter and dump the overflow? seems counterintuitive as that would mean my input - overflow is less than the output i need

[fluid crow]

machine fluctuations mess with your power, I don't think belts matter as long as they deliver what you need

[zenith shard]

is it normal to have spaghetti factory?

im still at my first day

[sullen gull]

Sure

[sullen gull]

Then even more so yes 😛

[charred spire]

if ive got a splitter with one mk2 and one mk1 tape coming out, will i get a 2:1 ratio?

[fluid crow]

if you set it exact and the buffer is not full you may be able to get it to teeter there but having enough or under clocking the machine to save power is all you need to do

[zenith shard]

idk, it starts to look a bit.... gnarly

[fluid crow]

if I am underrstandinng the question

[coral marsh]

The max headlift of mk2 pumps being 50m and the height of a nuclear reactor plus a 1m foundation has to be planned lol. I was gonna tier my last 125 reactors but decided against when I did that math

[nova ridge]

is ther ea way to close how many spots storage has?

[sullen gull]

The "starter base" can tend to look messy. Once you unlock foundations, and some other stuff in the Awesome shop as you go, it can make things easier to "not make spaghetti"

[fluid crow]

afaik just put stacks of something else

[zenith shard]

like this is my current base #screenshots message

is it very spaghetti?

[sullen gull]

That "something else" can still exit the storage.

[nova ridge]

woulndt hat something else come out as well?

[sullen gull]

Totally! But also totally fine 🙂

[fluid crow]

I thought you meant for like an end container to store so much of something

tbh the small container is not very big though so

[nova ridge]

all my power shards used 🙁

[zenith shard]

WAIT I can overclock the miners????

[nova ridge]

yes

everything basically

[narrow canyon]

And sloop most stuff too

[nova ridge]

why when i press double tap C sometimes it flies me higher instead of dropping me with hover

[zenith shard]

how do I add conveyerbelt mk 2 to my hotkey?

[sullen gull]

Open the Q menu, hover over the belt and hit 2.

However, you can also just use Mk1 and hit/hold E to switch

[sullen gull]

Or whatever number you want it on rather.

[prime magnet]

is instant scrap any good?

[zenith shard]

I can buy parts in the awesome shop??? :O

[prime magnet]

It seems... iffy

[zenith shard]

holy crap the awesome shop is literally an ecommerce website

[prime magnet]

It's a trap, not worth

[wispy osprey]

It's okay when you have everything you need*

[prime magnet]

I guess

[wispy osprey]

I'm not a fan of mk.3 power poles currently

[fluid crow]

I like the upm counter

[wispy osprey]

It was useful for petrol burning cus i had a lot of extra

[fluid crow]

can put it by your mine then be lazy and just look what to set it to

[wispy osprey]

Though I think I want to store petrol eventually

Because some cool recipes later require it

[dense violet]

how iffy?

[prime magnet]

seems like a ton of extra steps

[dense violet]

you mean oil to HOR to coke?

[prime magnet]

I only just unlocked blenders, I like alt recipes that remove extra steps

I'm more talking the sulphuric acid

[wispy osprey]

Just take petrol from a plastic plant

[dense violet]

well instant scrap is.. different. It's about teh same steps

and it's as efficient as Sloppy + Electrode

[prime magnet]

I have all three

[dense violet]

imo it's more situational if you are doing smaller set ups because sulfur isn't in many spots

but if you want to do a large bauxite set up I'd prefer sloppy + electrode every time

[prime magnet]

.. I'm also using none of them

[wispy osprey]

I want over 1000 aluminum ingot when I do mine

[dense violet]

Sloppy electrode is great.
cuts out silica and it's often easier to use oil for electrode scrap than coal

if you make a large processing facility you barely have to bring in any oil for the coke, whereas you'd have to bring in an ass ton of coal

[wispy osprey]

Whenever I unlock a new thing related to material I make a smaller setup before going very high numbers

Aka basic progression

[weary kestrel]

Might be a weird question, I have just a really shoddy ironworks set-up currently making bare minimum reinforced plates, rotors & modular frames
I realized if I just siphon off the frames I could have smart plating & versatile framework being built, is that a good adjustment or should I be making a new factory and be a bit more specific with my builds?

[formal minnow]

honestly for mission parts id just move inputs to a separate machine by hand
so like ill shove modular frames n RIPs n shit into boxes connected directly to assemblers

[weary kestrel]

ahh yeah that's fair, instead of having an entire automation system just feeding indefinitely

figure out what you need and slam into a storage crate

[unkempt blade]

automate all the things and sink the extra for aweshop tickets!

and you'll be using smart plating for the rest of the game on elevator stuff so leave it running

[weary kestrel]

That's fair, though I haven't found much I've liked from that shop just yet

outside of the concrete foundations, those were nice

[unkempt blade]

A lot of it is to make your build look better/easier to organize but there is one achievement that you'll need a pile of coupons for if you care about those

[open gust]

What’s the maximum amount of coal gens I can have on a single mk1 pipe only feeding the pipe from the 2 ends?

Would it be 13? Bc you can run 6.6666 whatever by running water into it from just one side

[fluid crow]

think so

[queen slate]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[fluid crow]

at that point you could delete the small piece of pipe in the middle and have it 2 pipes anyway 🤷

[queen slate]

Here are some designs if you want to use them

[open gust]

So the 8 coal gen per pipe is the max?

[thick spade]

How good is star rupture

[queen slate]

The ratio is 3 water extractors for every 8 cpgs

[fluid crow]

II got 6.66 like you did 🤷

for 300 flow rate in a pipe

[open gust]

Well that’s if your only running your water pumps into one side of the pipes

[queen slate]

You don’t have to use that your own design will prob work too

[wispy osprey]

I still have a 480 coal gen setup in the snake tree crater

Honestly should I leave it there

[queen slate]

Yep why no free power

[wispy osprey]

Because coal useful

[fluid crow]

if it's from both sides that's basically 2 pipes

[queen slate]

True ig

[wispy osprey]

Why do people not recommend more than one stop on a transport train line? If it still takes 10 minutes to make the trip it's fine

[queen slate]

Never heard about that I thought people have problems with multiple trains on the one line

[wispy osprey]

Multiple trains aren't a problem, too many stops on one line shortens the distance of your overall trip

But 5 minutes is a decent chunk of time

[queen slate]

Ig docking and loading/unloading takes a good bit of time too

[wispy osprey]

5 minutes to location, 5 minutes to come back

[fast ruin]

anynone has an idea how to simplify plutonium conversion from urianium? cause i saw what is needed and my brain is hitting hard

[wispy osprey]

It's throwing me a curve ball too but Im nowhere near that stage of the game

Why pour uranium into the alt recipe when you can just use silica

I know that's more sulfuric acid but at that point in the game you're gonna make so much of it

[fast ruin]

i can produce uranium realtively fine but getting to plutonium is a headache

[hybrid nymph]

I just made my first youtube video😊 I made 2 episodes of Diablo 2 resurrected

[wispy osprey]

Normal and 2 impure nodes is crazy

[sterile blade]

Take the output of one machine or of a simple number of items and follow it; this easily scales up (or down).
Eg: two Uranium Fuel Rods per minute equals 100 Waste/min. This then gets split in 25 and 75 in the following production steps to make... And so on ^^

[gloomy tusk]

So close to space elevator phase 3 😁

Working out trains auto movement is a pain right now

[wispy osprey]

Is the alt uranium recipe using waste worth it when plutonium already uses waste

I think?

[hybrid nymph]

awesome proud of you!

[gloomy tusk]

It’s my first run and I have 100 hours currently

[sterile blade]

Generally no, but you should define "worth" for a precise answer xD

[hybrid nymph]

I'm on tier 7 and am at 112 hours

[gloomy tusk]

Your really good

[hybrid nymph]

thank you, this is my 5th playthough

check out my coal plant on #screenshots

[gloomy tusk]

Wow that’s sick

Holy

[hybrid nymph]

I have 5 worlds

[gloomy tusk]

Guess what I just finished

[hybrid nymph]

My first world: Pig Benis, where I played on early access and got to tier 8

What did you finish?

[gloomy tusk]

I made a tower with the elevator with floors for every node type with labeled storage crates took me a while

[gloomy tusk]

Tier 8?

[hybrid nymph]

yuppers tier 8 nuclear power

[gloomy tusk]

I though there was only 7

[hybrid nymph]

no, there are 9 tiers

I have never gotten to tier 9 yet though

[gloomy tusk]

Is this good?

[sterile blade]

If you count the tutorial (Tier 0), they're an even "10"

[hybrid nymph]

these are my five saves

#1 Pig Benis got to tier 8

#2 too fast too factory I got to tier 6

#3 Saddest Factory I got to tier 2

#4 another crap factory I got to tier 8

#5 Beer Towne I am on tier 7 right now

what is your go to music for this game?

[gloomy tusk]

Just checked my pre tube launch checklist and realised I forgot to grab cable 😭

I’m now on the other side of the map

[hybrid nymph]

oof sorry to hear

[gloomy tusk]

Time for me to hop off for the day

[faint reef]

i am thinking about starting a new run. should i wait for 1.2 tho?

[ruby jay]

My 1.0 save seemed to work no problem after updating server to 1.1. But still wanted a fresh start from north forest, not been around there a lot

[wispy osprey]

In 10 minutes

No wait it was 10km per 5 minutes

That's... a very long distance

[ruby jay]

Trains on flat track 120km/h which is 2km/minute yes

[wispy osprey]

So i can definitely make more than one stop to pick up items, like pure caterium and more pure copper

As long as the overall return trip isn't longer than 10 minutes

[ruby jay]

Add more trains? Or is it single 2 way single track?

[wispy osprey]

2 way single track that seems longer than I want to time properly for a fill rate of 960 iron ingot per minute

2 way single tracks*

I could cheat the system and just wait for only the iron to fill

As I technically lose throughput if I wait for the rest to fill

[zenith shard]

hi guys

is it better to do load balancing or manifold patterns?

[wispy osprey]

Manifolds are easier to upgrade as you move along

[zenith shard]

hmm what do you mean though?

the throughput is capped by the conveyer belt's speed

its rather unupgradable I'd argue

unless you mean to do a horizontal upgrade than a vertical upgrade?

[wispy osprey]

Updating the belts in blueprints

[zenith shard]

wait there are "blueprints" in the game?

[wispy osprey]

If you add a single part to a load balancer you have to completely redesign the system

[zenith shard]

I just started a couple of hours ago btw so im still a noob

[zenith shard]

not necessarily I think? you can just add more belts input to the subsystem

[wispy osprey]

It's fine if you're absolutely sure the load balancer has that many outputs

[ruby jay]

You can upgrade belts and miners just by building later version over the old

[zenith shard]

can't you just do a vertical upgrade too? if you add in more input bus that would work as intended I'd argue

[wispy osprey]

Manifolds are just so much cleaner to work with and add to

[zenith shard]

but isn't manifold very bottom heavy?

like the end part of a manifold probably have way less throughput right

[wispy osprey]

Not if you do math properly

If the machine takes that much per minute anyway its perfectly fine

[zenith shard]

actually

good point there yeah 🤔

okay, point taken lol

[wispy osprey]

The machines tell you how much input per minute they need

[zenith shard]

yeeep, that makes a ton more sense

[wispy osprey]

Once one fills the next is in line

This is called "warm-up" and can vary greatly and has workarounds

[dense violet]

they end up being the exact same efficiency

all a manifold cares about is

a) you have at least enough parts per min
b) your belt is fast enough

it doesn't care about which machines on the line use what pm, it'll self regulate

[zenith shard]

hmmm another design question

[dense violet]

the only real reason to do a load balancers is if you think they are cool and enjoy them

[zenith shard]

why do we do a mirrored-manifold pattern?

like having one manifold on the left and two on the right and 1 output bus at the middle

[wispy osprey]

There are infinite ways to use how manifold outputs work

[dense violet]

because often items per min becomes crunched down to fewer parts per min each step

you don't have to do it ofc

[zenith shard]

hmmmm idk, im pretty sure there's real practical use case to load balancers

[dense violet]

it's just sometimes convenient

[dense violet]

'radiation' technically. But radiation is a trivial issue as long as you have filters automated

[zenith shard]

I mean manifold is a load balancer technically

[dense violet]

it is explicitely not

[zealous urchin]

manifold takes some time to fill up so its not gonna have max output at start

[dense violet]

If something isn't a load balancer, it's an overflow manifold

[zenith shard]

you are technically balancing the load after each bus is filled

[wispy osprey]

At most it divides each output by 3 from the input

[zenith shard]

how is that not a load balancer?

[dense violet]

nope. A load balancer is constantly delivering exactly the amount pm each machine is needed

a manifold explicitely overflows items to the next one

the earlier machines will always be clogged up while the later machines will run with just on time delivery

[wispy osprey]

They need this anyway because you want an exact output to not clog and slow throughput

Merger manifolds work the same but they multiply inputs

[zenith shard]

but lets say I have multiple servers and I have multiple clients that wants to connect to them. If I use a manifold pattern then the clients would connect from server 1 to server x after each server is completely loaded, hence overflowing from one server to the other

isn't that pretty much load balancing?

if I don't do a manifold overflow, then the server would just be overloaded and crash while the other servers would have 0 load