satisfactory

[dense violet]

no that's pretty typical human response

don't look up information will make people look thigns up

do thing that is helpful and contrarians will cross their arms and go 'no'.

see it a lot with libertarians

or republicans

[sullen gull]

*humans 🤷‍♂️

[calm mango]

This made me laugh

The tiny addition

[dense violet]

a lot of republicans think the yare libertarians but they really aren't

but to be fair, a lot of people who think the yare libertarians definitely aren't

[calm mango]

I say this conversation ends here so mods don't yank our speech privileges

[leaden turret]

-# this assumes they're paying attention

[calm mango]

A mod could be lurking/ we get unlucky and one is just checking this chat at exactly this time

[cursive crane]

Whats the comparison? What are you comparing to?
Look at factorio
Or any other factory game
Or any other game. Maintaining 20% of the playerbase a year after official release and after 7 years of beta access is perfectly normal

[dense violet]

there's direct mocking of musk in the game. I don't think defending fake libertarians is on their list

[leaden turret]

it's poor sport to rage bait fools tho

[dense violet]

do you happen to remember the vid Snutt did taht was just taking the piss out of musk and that lot?

just was ripping into them

[leaden turret]

not off the top of my head, but it'll be in the archive somewhere, probably

[spare cradle]

What I am fixing first more, is my oil

[dense violet]

hey, no american politics in chat pls

[golden nexus]

Like steam unlock, something like only 15% of people laid 5km of pipe. 16% did phase 3, Thats actually very low.

[cursive crane]

You telling me you dont remember everything in the archive off the top of your head? Fake satisfactory fan spotted

[spare cradle]

My entire refinery layout was whack

[dense violet]

it was a joke 😛

[spare cradle]

And, I need to deal with heavy oil better

[dense violet]

imo - just make it into coke and sink it - great for early points

[coral marsh]

Og cola recipe?

[dense violet]

no that had the caine in it

[coral marsh]

Btw i uploaded the screenshot of my steel pipes blueprint that uses the coke steel ingots recipe to the reddit page, its gotten iver 2k views
Edit: im very happy about the blueprint lol. It's my best one yet

[cursive crane]

Only 14% of factorio players have completed research with production science packs

Thats only 14% of players that have made it 60ish% into the game

[golden nexus]

Ok, Anyway, Its a suggestion for the game. Cause the game from my point of view has some shortfalls in that area. It also has a lot of possible potential for having a game mode in that area by adding a bunch of new challenges / approaches to the game progression.

[spare cradle]

My mat coupons are alr up to like the 100ks

[feral jay]

God dammit, doggos teleporting through walls again

[spare cradle]

I mean that how many points it takes to get a coupon

[cursive crane]

That doesnt mean the game needs a new game mode. It means people dont like the game enough to stick around for end game. Thats perfectly fine and not something you need to remake the game for

[whole drum]

This is correct. It's a natural result of the Pareto principle.

An expected distribution, in other words

[golden nexus]

Well, They have announced a new game mode, so we will see what we get soonish

[tranquil saffron]

get that 2 dimensional child game trash outta here

[cursive crane]

Thinking factorio is a childs game is wild

[whole drum]

I mean, I think you would be hard pressed to find a single title on Steam where it has more than 100 players, 100% game completion by 100% of players

[coral marsh]

WHAT IDIOT THINKS FACTORIO IS A CHILDS GAME?

I saw Martincintopants play it, fuckin nightmare istfg

Even i wont be playing it.

[cursive crane]

I have all of a single handful of hours and even I know it is far from that.

Game makes satisfactory looks simple lol

[coral marsh]

GENUINELY

[tranquil saffron]

2D is simple

[whole drum]

I think if I had as many hours in Factorio as I do Satisfactory, I wouldn't think it was really that complicated--but it certainly isn't simple

[steady cedar]

Are you talking about the gameplay or game design...

[coral marsh]

It would take a lot of convincing to make me play factorio, but the potential does exist.

[whole drum]

It's a good game. I just like Sf more because I don't like the hostile alien thing much and I love 3D building

[golden nexus]

Stationeers is the one that sorts people out

[coral marsh]

Never heard of it

[cursive crane]

Honestly keep telling myself I will after my current sf run but then I find a new game and just shudder at the hours I need for factorio

[steady cedar]

Also i love many 2d gamez, they often have better gameplay cuz they actually focus on it rather then count pixels on 3d models with rtx

[feral jay]

Yeah I think Factorio took the hostile alien thing too far, Satisfactory is a game that know what it isn't as much as what it is

[spare cradle]

Should I work on getting turbo fuel and trains, or do I uhhh, idk, get manufacturers?

[coral marsh]

I love satisfactory because its 3D and is super fun

[golden nexus]

The late game is basically off limits to people who can't code

[cursive crane]

Both

[coral marsh]

WOW

[sullen gull]

I own it. Have maybe an hour in it, but was enough to be like meh .. naaah

[dusky hedge]

oxygen not included

[golden nexus]

It has its own assembler language based on mips for automation

[coral marsh]

I agree, manufacturer manifolds are incredibly pleasing to look at and build. I have a design if you want it

[cursive crane]

Why are my people dying this time simulator

[whole drum]

Same. I'll take Chronicon over POE2 any day.

[sullen gull]

Anyone try The Last Caretaker ?

[spare cradle]

Or or or, I could work on expanding my warehouse and to make it able to sort my horde of things

[cursive crane]

Why not all the above.
Games not going anywhere.

[golden nexus]

Yes, I grew board of the game quite quickly. Its was "do more of X" and repeat

[sullen gull]

That and was a bit too hostile in the early bit.

[feral jay]

And Satisfactory isn't?

[golden nexus]

It was basically loot+hoard everything and then it had shortfall in inventory managment / sorting of base materials which absolutly needs addressed in it

[tranquil saffron]

i wish this server let us stream, that would be a nice way to show people stuff

[sullen gull]

Not if one is concerned more with making nice and purty things vs "production on a pad"

[golden nexus]

Its different. You don't have information available for whats coming, so you can't prep and you have to find out the hard way, but it really was "goto new locaiton, restore power, press button" repeat

[whole drum]

Oh, apparently you didn't read the hidden "No Fun Allowed" rule. It's why we can't have pics/gifs in this channel either.

[feral jay]

Fair enough, I never make anything purdy so I didn't think of that

[tranquil saffron]

well thats different, i don't think 2 ppl streaming on satisfactory discord is a risk

[warm finch]

#streams-and-videos

[tranquil saffron]

yea like a vc stream, on discord

[spare cradle]

I think 160 industrial storage for every individual item is fine

[sullen gull]

I just record a clip and post in screenshots 🤷‍♂️

[whole drum]

You still have private calls if someone is genuinely interested, at least

[warm finch]

yeah I gotcha. we have a channel for it and can link to it in that channel. having in server VC/streaming requires more heavy/constant moderation.

[tranquil saffron]

just surprises me with how active this server is

[sullen gull]

#design-and-architecture message

[golden nexus]

vc's etc.. often only work on small community/discords when they get larger you get problems. This one would already be too large

[tranquil saffron]

is heavy moderation kicking some AFKers once a week, cus i wanna know

[spare cradle]

Lovely, is your storage system a donut?

[warm finch]

remember, this is the official satisfactory discord with coffeestainers

[whole drum]

That never participate

[sullen gull]

That is only used when I am building and can't put stuff back into a DD 😛

[cursive crane]

Heavy moderation would be setting up a reporting system for people who randomly come into vcs to spam slurs and disrupt people streaming

[spare cradle]

I don't get this Dimensional depot, is it a late game thing?

[cursive crane]

Ive moderated large servers, public vc channels are a nightmare. Which is why they are rarely actually used anymore

[sullen gull]

Nope

[feral jay]

Early-mid game

[whole drum]

You can get it as soon as Steel Pipes

[spare cradle]

[sullen gull]

You can get it right now if you go find a bunch of mercerspheres

[spare cradle]

w a t.

[tranquil saffron]

then make roles or something, it's not that complicated lol

[spare cradle]

I've been snatching them

[whole drum]

You also need to find a SAM node

[spare cradle]

So, new thing

[sullen gull]

Allien tech in the MAM

[whole drum]

Since 1.0

[spare cradle]

OH

[tranquil saffron]

also i don't think we're going the have the whole crazy legions of dedicated spammers here on the satisfactory server ... unless you summon them

[spare cradle]

I need a bunch of sam.

[golden nexus]

Yes, This is the sort of thing that happens on larger discord unfortunately. But also the streaming chats are often off putting, people chewing, background noise, narrative their actions etc..

[spare cradle]

I'll set a drill on it rq if that works

[cursive crane]

Its something these devs have decided is entirely unnecessary, if you want to stream to someone, invite them into a personal call or your own server, since its not that complicated

[sullen gull]

No, but there are enough who "Just want to watch the world burn" types

[golden nexus]

You get stuff like bots coming into vc's to advertise and the likes, it doesn't matter how bg a server is

text etc.. is reasonably easy to filter, voice, not so much

[tranquil saffron]

the moment we make a VC, surely, they will come flooding in. other servers have roles and they work 😂

[whole drum]

Yeah, it's all about control, not fun. What's not to get?

[tranquil saffron]

actually it's not hard to kick like 2 spammers once a week 😂

don't kick the spammers

[feral jay]

Personally I think the moderation is great on this server and I'm sure a lot of ideas people think are great would have unintended consequences that you just don't foresee if you're not a professional moderation company

[whole drum]

I suppose that's the sentiment

🤷

[tranquil saffron]

100%

leaves to go back to discord VC 😂

[sullen gull]

Why am I not surprised those exist now ... 🤦‍♂️

[whole drum]

Because people are frail and /ignore isn't seen as enough of a moderation tool anymore

[feral jay]

I worked for one for a while, we moderated discussion forums attached to news sites

[golden nexus]

One isse which occurs with streaming chanels on stationeers is you get multipler games on it and people will come in and treat it like a "help channel" and just start asking questions expecting help etc... the level of entitlment goes off the charts. Often extremely disruptive to the people to the point where they just retreat to their own discord server.

So anyone whos reasonable takes off to private areas... the result is only the unresonable remain...

[sullen gull]

I have questions on how "biased" it was, But I am going to refrain :).

Gotta jet anyhow... school night

[feral jay]

Yep, the "Nazi bar" problem

[whole drum]

This goes back to the point about roles. You can give trusted community members the ability to kick people from VC--especially if it's backed by rules that govern the server as a whole.

[feral jay]

No, not really, you need effective moderation 24/7. To make that happen, you need people to show up, and to make that happen, you need to pay them.

[whole drum]

I used to moderate for a guild on TeamSpeak back in the day and that's most of what it was, except we also had a mod channel where we created incident reports whenever we had to action someone so we had a recorded history if we needed to escalate the actions.

[golden nexus]

Nope, You need moderation staff around, In fact they got summoned today for somebody being a constant problem

[whole drum]

So it happens whether you have voice or not--but we still can't have nice things

[feral jay]

This isn't a discussion posting forum – moderation needs to happen in real time, and that requires paid staff.

[golden nexus]

ITs the internet, and it involves people so of course you can't have nice things, the 2% ruin it

[whole drum]

Moderation doesn't have to be paid. Our guild was all volunteer.

[warm finch]

to make it 100% reliable, yes it does.

[feral jay]

Yes, it does. Reddit is what happens when moderation is volunteer based.

[whole drum]

No, it doesn't. It just has to be organized.

We had 3+ mods 24/7

[whole drum]

No, reddit is what happens when ideology overtakes the purpose of the platform

[sullen gull]

For 42k,+ people? (That's only who is showing online 😛

[warm finch]

remember, this is an OFFICIAL satisfactory discord server run by coffeestain staff. they have all kinds of LEGAL requirements to be fulfilled. in order to ensure legal complaince 100% of the time, there must be 100% moderation. To guaranteed 100% moderation in 100% compliance, you must have paid staff.

This server is doing great as is.

[golden nexus]

Nope, Its actually not working, Look at reddit as a good example of it not working in many areas, It occuring in open source projects as well. People who take a disliking to one person ends up abusing the power and often the check and balances are not in place, This is also why a lot of game dev's for company are in the discord but don't interact with the discord

[whole drum]

I just told you reddit is a bad example

[cursive crane]

Oftentimes moderators need admins, and admins need payment and addition oversight

Then what happens when people start accusing the moderation of being too strict/hurting the community?

Nah the good choice is what we have going on here.

[whole drum]

We had 700+ members in the guild

[warm finch]

and we just collectively told you your "volunteer guild" is a bad example.

[golden nexus]

reddit is an example of community moderation failing / being taken over for political purposes / reasons. Its what happens

[whole drum]

And you're wrong, because I've done it

[warm finch]

your guild was not an official one for the entire game. there's a difference

[sullen gull]

Name one social media that hasn't

[feral jay]

And you're wrong, because I've moderated millions of users. It needs to be paid.

[cursive crane]

Are you really using an example of 700 people to justify it?

[warm finch]

anyways, moving on so we don't get moderated

[whole drum]

You can pay, but you don't have to if your org isn't set up that way

[golden nexus]

They are all loaded currently, even the mainstrema news is massivly loaded with biased stuff.

Even paid companies have failed....

[sullen gull]

manipulated

[golden nexus]

what is?

[whole drum]

Which shows it's not about whether it's paid or not--it's about the integrity of the org

[sullen gull]

The majority of it.

[feral jay]

My point was that this server is doing quite well, and I think nothing should change.

[golden nexus]

ITs actually just simply bad journalism in a lot of cases....

[golden nexus]

Yup, I would agree with that

[cursive crane]

I think yall have breached the point of this being #satisfactory related

[whole drum]

I wish it was just incompetence and not about pushing an agenda, but that isn't the case

[golden nexus]

its hard to tell 😉

[whole drum]

You included, but agreed. Let's change subject.

[golden nexus]

But this is what happens with appointed modernation teams

[warm finch]

really wish devs would make it easier to turn off multiple power generators at once. ugh

[whole drum]

This is what Prio power switches are for

[golden nexus]

unplug pipe 😛

[dusky hedge]

this is a(philosophical ?) problem that cannot be fixed, a concentration of the 'exceptions to the rule' are able to wield power over common sense actions. in a small community this behaviour is discouraged until it is diminished. there are no small communities on the internet, just gatherings

[sullen gull]

Priority/power switches?

[feral jay]

Yes, some kind of comnmand&control function would be amazing. #1 on my wish list I think.

[warm finch]

no they are not

[feral jay]

I want to set up oversight and war rooms in this game

[sullen gull]

Or are you referring to "stand-by" mode?

[spare cradle]

Wahm

[cursive crane]

Iirc prio switches dont work for that. They cut off the power to/from but dont actually turn off the gens

[dense violet]

have a pump feed all the gens from below, hook the pumps to a priority power switch - turn off al lthe pumps in 1 go

[warm finch]

This.

[golden nexus]

I look at internet groups as a different thing, like a lot of real world group, you setup a group to solve a problem / have fun and when your done often the group disbands, this is quite normal

[whole drum]

Ah, fair enough, but what are you doing that you want to turn them off for?

[sullen gull]

@golden nexus Probably should take it to #off-topic-general

[warm finch]

problem with that is you still gotta stand by all the gens in order to let em fill up and fill up the pipes, etc.

[feral jay]

And paramaterized/reparamaterizable blueprints

lol is "reparameterizeable" even a word?

[dense violet]

oh, just down clock like 2 machines to like 50% on each line, it'll flood the system pretty fast and easily

you def don't need to turn them all off

[golden nexus]

Its reelated to satsfactory multiplayer, eg you setup a group, run the game for a while and then disband. This is the same thing. Its why #1201555265942724758 exists

[warm finch]

it is slow when you're trying to trouble shoot a 400 gen plant set up lol

[dense violet]

go do something else for a bit 😛

[dusky hedge]

on the net you can take a trait that is one in a million, and then find it in 50 other ppl to gather together to take actions, this is not possible in rl

[golden nexus]

this occurs in real life as well

[dusky hedge]

this example requires atleast 50 milion ppl, i wouldnt live that long

[sullen gull]

Absoultely possible and happens all the time ...

[spare cradle]

I got uh... 5 mercer spheres

[whole drum]

It happens IRL all the time. There are collections of these people called "prisons." 😛

[sullen gull]

ok is greally going to leave the convo now lol.

Night all

[spare cradle]

Night

[dusky hedge]

in normal society these ppl hide their traits, for them all to meet would be extremely rare to the point of near impossibility

[hasty stump]

that's more like a one in a hundred situation, at least in the US 😂

[whole drum]

Probably not quite that much, but probably more than 1 in a mill

But you can look up the stats and figure out the ratio if you really cared

[hasty stump]

ah i was off a bit, apparently more like 0.7%

[sullen gull]

(ugh, can't hold back) Believe it or not, this started to become more prevalent with the advent of the internet, But I feel there is hopefully a small shift happening.

[dusky hedge]

prison numbers are about capacity not crime

[whole drum]

True enough, but it's about crime severe enough to be both convicted and incarcerated--which is a certain trait only a certain % of people have 😄

[sullen gull]

turning off pings now

[golden nexus]

Not really, There is many reason why people end up in that situation, Not all of them are on purpose a lot end up there because of a common human approach to the world of "This will never happen to me"

[warm finch]

how dare you ignore me

[dusky hedge]

the shift only goes one way, communities are outgunned by connected minority groups (not racial) common sense is being diminished with lack of communal enforcement

[whole drum]

Before you go, question. You were telling me about some mods yesterday. Where do you find yours?

[feral jay]

https://ficsit.app

[whole drum]

Oh, hell ya. Thanks, Striek!

[feral jay]

I highly recommend "just pause" and "construction preferences"

Also Gardener's Toolkit and Effeciency Checker

[golden nexus]

No, It often shift back silently. I have seen it occur multiple times in my life where i am from. What people say and do is often not the same thing.

[whole drum]

The main mod I want most is to make rounded structures more easily... what was that one called again?

[sullen gull]

CurveBuilder

[whole drum]

Especially between Online and IRL personas

[dense violet]

curve builder is one. Perfect circles is not up to date yet but is excellent

[golden nexus]

Yes, Very much so

[sullen gull]

Also, Making some of those single All Up Round machines I was showing before is really nice to have when building on curved setups.

[whole drum]

Wym?

[dusky hedge]

take a small town, who wants to do the right thing by their community, and stop bad behaviour in their town, but a group on the internet who takes offence to it outnumbers them 1000 to 1 and take social action, the town cant do anything. its happening now.
sorry this discussion can go forever 🙁 , probably not the place. but ive been thinking about it for a long time, along the lines of how we are falling and might never get back up.

[sullen gull]

Like these: #screenshots message #screenshots message#screenshots message

@whole drum

[golden nexus]

Nope, There stuff I can't say here as to while. But the environment I grew up in knows differently to this statement. It would very much push the people back out. psychology doesn't work that way in that case.

[whole drum]

Interesting

[dense violet]

'stuff you can't say here' ?

[dusky hedge]

thinkgs like

path signal

[feral jay]

Load balancer

[golden nexus]

Just put the screws on the sushi belt

[dusky hedge]

path signals bring up some tough emotions for some ppl

[feral jay]

Rightfully so, if you don't use path signals everywhere, you're playing the game wrong, and should be shunned

Block signals are for n00bs!

[dusky hedge]

its possible i still dont get path signals fully, but its clear that they just dont get me

[feral jay]

Heh the long and short is, use block signals everywhere. Only use path signals if you can foresee a measurable throughput improvement. (in a nutshell, anyway)

[dusky hedge]

my funniest mistake with signals had me googling and scratching my head for ages until i realized i had a push pull train with both engines facing the same way

it kept saying the signals are making the stop unreachabl;e

[spare cradle]

Mmm, mk2 drills produce so much

[whole drum]

What?! There's a production screen mod for your factory? Why isn't this in the base game?? 😭

[dense violet]

because you know what you've built and everything is static?

[whole drum]

I don't remember everything I've built--especially across multiple saves.

[feral jay]

"know what you built" is... optimistic, for a lot of builds

[dense violet]

put a sign up. Save your plans.

the barest of notes - 'this factory makes 10 rips pm'

[feral jay]

Oh I have signs everywhere

[whole drum]

Yeah, workaround exist, but this honestly should be a basic feature.

[feral jay]

I'm with GilgaMocha, the game really needs centralized management features IMO

All we have rn is priority power switches

And even that changed everything for me

[dense violet]

this isn't factorio with dynamic resource management.

[whole drum]

It doesn't need to be for it to be a good feature

[feral jay]

True, but my opinion stands regardless

[dense violet]

I mean I would not want the devs to go through all tha twork because some people don't want to take the barest of notes. Literally anything else would be more worthwhile

[feral jay]

It's nowehere near as necessary as it is in Factorio, but I still think the game needs it

[whole drum]

You would normally think it's a standard feature for any automation/factory game tbh

[dense violet]

right at the bottom of the list.

below making dedicated holiday soundtracks for every holiday in the world

below even inserting AI into the game to curse out players specifically for their behaviours in game

[feral jay]

I honestly can't believe it took as long as it did to get belt counters; I use those everywhere too now

Even just a screen available with a list of belt counters with names/groupings and the current rate, I'd love just that

[dusky hedge]

do they turn off at low power and on agin when it resumes?

[feral jay]

They turn off, but not back on, you need to do that manually

[dusky hedge]

kk ty

[grizzled lotus]

ngl, I thought the hoverpack was just nifty thing. but now that I'm using it I'm finding it extremely helpful flying around my base

[dusky hedge]

game changer

[whole drum]

It's the most useful equipment imo

[feral jay]

Always rush the hoverpack

[dusky hedge]

i felt that way about parachute too

getting hdd before chute was a slog

[whole drum]

Chute + Ladders can get you A LOT

[dusky hedge]

and gas mask

[feral jay]

haha I just never liked the look of random ladders all over the world

[whole drum]

Optional if you rush nobs 🙂

[whole drum]

Yeah, tear 'em down later

[dusky hedge]

yeah i had to delete all my constructions after i moved on

[grizzled lotus]

I never liked parachutes. they're just too slow. the jetpack is better

[whole drum]

Depends on what you want to do. Ladder+Chute can get you across the entire map faster than jetpack.

[dusky hedge]

i left a dimensional storage somewhwere with uranium in it after a hog scared me off

[feral jay]

THe parachute is great because you don't have to use any mental capacity to control ascent/descent rate, therefore freeing it up for target selection

But yea it's def slower

[dusky hedge]

container + dimen

[grizzled lotus]

ladder+chute? what's that? I only used it when flying otu of a hypertube cannon

[feral jay]

Climb very, very high, and jump off a ladder. You'd be amazed at the places you'll see.

[whole drum]

Oh, wow. This mod almost plays the game for you... "Smart!"

[dusky hedge]

i only ever liked putting ladders agianst a cliff

[feral jay]

I've never tried that one, I keep meaning to

Seems like it would take a lot of the drudgery out of setting up endless banks of contructors, even moreso than blueprints do

[whole drum]

Yeah, but I was talking about this earlier. I want bigger blueprints, but I don't want it to be so excessive that I no longer make any decisions, lol

[grizzled lotus]

what's it do

[dense violet]

it builds splitters and belts connected up to machines. probably power lines too

but ... it only does it it's way so you can't really customise it
just having blueprinted machines with the stuff hooked up already the way you like it does the job

[spare cradle]

What's a reasonable wattage for an early gas gen?

Also I can have windows now

[feral jay]

I don't understand the question, they all produce exactly 250MW

[dense violet]

up to you. I wait till t7 for fuel gens personally

some people do it immediately without alts and it's harderto get bigger numbers

[spare cradle]

Sounds good with that I have 2 16 coal gens givingnplenty

[dense violet]

some people get HOR and diluted packged fuel and do HUGE numbers tier 3

[feral jay]

I do gas gens pretty quickly

[dense violet]

ime I'd go with 64 coal gens if you wait to t7 for fuel power

[feral jay]

This save I only ever built 24 coal gens I think

[dense violet]

it's easy with mk3 belts

play around with it 🙂

[spare cradle]

I'm finnnewe

I'm only consuming 1k and have 2.4k spare

[quick barn]

If they could do windows, we'd have conveyor wall holes that we could see through

[spare cradle]

Even the slot graphic is transparent in the middle

[young igloo]

Anyone having the same issue when I try to stream the game on discord, it keeps saying my stream is paused and I need to swap to the application in order to unpause it. This only happens with satisfactory no other game.

[quick barn]

Yup

[spare cradle]

sucks

[quick barn]

Its just a smashed up set of parts that make a merger, and the merger entity is also not see through

Its a bummer, but apparently a technical engine thing IIRC and the juice wasn't worth the squeeze at the time.

[mental orbit]

We doin it. We tearing down our old spaghetti plant and rebuilding to factories

[quick barn]

My bet is they wanna fix it, and probably will someday, but wanted the functionality for the release.

[quick barn]

First time?

[mental orbit]

It’s terrifying and it takes forever

Yes

[quick barn]

Highly suggested just moving to a new locale

Don't nuke your existing stuff yet.

[mental orbit]

I’m about 30 hours in and I just made my first actual building lol

[quick barn]

Its not worth it. You can use that production to build better elsewhere, then come back and clean up

I'm hundreds of hours in on my Xbox save and still havent torn down my starter iron and copper

[mental orbit]

I didn’t even know there were inputs and outputs yet so I just had everything being put into 1 smelter and constructor

[quick barn]

And I'm working on aluminum now so I CAM go build theega iron facility to replace the starter area.

[quick barn]

Oh yeah, you are about to have a blast! I'm jelly

[mental orbit]

So we were wasting probably half of every single mine I was using So yea we have to tear everything down

[quick barn]

Kinda wish I could experience the game again for the first time. What a great time.

[stoic nebula]

i got the achivment for 150 mercers!!

[mental orbit]

And I have everything being built right next to my hub criss crossing all over and couldn’t remember where everything was going

[quick barn]

That's why you relocate, but if you already ripped it all down, then enjoy!

[quick barn]

Very nice.

[stoic nebula]

i did all the MAM for mercers and i feel good about myself

[stoic nebula]

NOT a great time... the dark ages... shutters from flashbacks

[tame kindle]

I have just one questions i have 12 nucléaire central and I product 12 barre uranium but I think but I don’t now why I product more then used

[stoic nebula]

im 1000 hours and can hardly do that :D

[mental orbit]

It’s beautiful

[stoic nebula]

wanna see my best build?

@mental orbit

[mental orbit]

Yeee post it

[stoic nebula]

k lemme get scome screenies

[mental orbit]

If math teachers just used this game I’d probably have learned twice as much as I did in class lol

[dense violet]

it's mostly just basic arithmetic, you couldn't really go far with it.

[dusky hedge]

i think a big reason ppl struggle with math is they dont associate value with numbers

[stoic nebula]

cant put pics here

[dusky hedge]

when youi explain it in sports or cigarettes it just sounds fdifferent

[stoic nebula]

want me to dm u or smth?

[dusky hedge]

use screenshots channel and link it here

[stoic nebula]

@mental orbit #screenshots message

[spare cradle]

oh mama, 100 power shards for ionized fuel

[quick barn]

Nah. The discovery and experimenting gave me great joy.

Its why I've bought this game like 6 times (as gifts)

[stoic nebula]

i hated my first 50 hours. i didnt understand anything and looking back, it was rough

i should have kept my first world

[feral jay]

Wow I actually ran out of building materials

Time to upgrade the DD capacity I suppose

[quick barn]

Oh yeah, my early runs were certainly banging two rocks together sure.

[quick barn]

Or at least get up and do some stretches, then get back in there 🤪

[feral jay]

Just wanna automate oscillators before I call it a night, and I went ridonculous mode and decided to build a factory for 20/min

Ran out of cable of all things

[stoic nebula]

it feels great when thats fully upgraded...

[muted charm]

good morning all

[stoic nebula]

for sure...

[dusky hedge]

cable is one of the first thing i dedicated mercer spheres to

[stoic nebula]

i did encased beams for mk4 belts

[feral jay]

I need to remind myself of what it was like before we had DDs, lots and lots of supply depots and construction trains. Soooo much time moving building materials around

[stoic nebula]

yea...

[stoic nebula]

early access was a fun time

[dusky hedge]

i never got that far into the game until these runs

[feral jay]

Got the hat and trinket to prove it lol

[stoic nebula]

same lol

i show it off to my sister

[feral jay]

Me to my nephew

[stoic nebula]

but i like the cat ear hat so i just use the trinket and build gun tool skin

[feral jay]

There's a skin?

[stoic nebula]

yea a golden build tool skin

i think

[dusky hedge]

cat ear skin?

[stoic nebula]

cat ear hat :3

i found it in a liz doggo cave

[dusky hedge]

many ways to skin a hat

[spare cradle]

I'm gonna guess the DD is more inventory space

[stoic nebula]

like a pocket dimention

[feral jay]

Not so much that, but you don't need to carry everything around anymore

[stoic nebula]

dimension*

[spare cradle]

-# if so, I may personally just put quartz crystals and concrete in there, then the basics later

[feral jay]

It's basically inventory cloud storage

[spare cradle]

Fun

So, pure iron ingot or plastic smart plates

[dusky hedge]

if youi explore every time yoiu get your elevator loading, yoiu will get dd about when youi need it

[feral jay]

Yes, there is a golden FICSIT build gun for EA supporters

[stoic nebula]

ah yes... skin the hat

[feral jay]

neat

[stoic nebula]

:3 i have it

[spare cradle]

I've been doing it to just mark resources and find harddrives

[feral jay]

Just equipped it

For funsies while the DD reloads

[stoic nebula]

are you a new player?

[spare cradle]

Yes.

I alr have 50+ hours in

[dusky hedge]

somersloops are the best thing for newbies, mercers are plentiful you iwil accidentally find all you need, but yep hdd priority

[stoic nebula]

dont turn all your slugs to shards, wait until you can sloop them

[spare cradle]

... I did alr huh

[stoic nebula]

sloop them or turn them to shards?

[dusky hedge]

just do the blue ones as yo uneed

keep the others ti you have a sloop

blues are hardly worth going out of you r way for

[spare cradle]

I've made a mistake

[stoic nebula]

slooping for shard from slugs is worth it, so is slooping the alien remains to proteins for sinking...

[dusky hedge]

yeah for sure

there are so many blues that youi can use a few early on with no problem

acant imagine i woul duse all my shards before i can make them

[stoic nebula]

yea for sure

[stoic nebula]

:<

[quick barn]

No way

[stoic nebula]

its okay youll do that alot dw

[stone python]

do what to the alot?

[stoic nebula]

make mistakes

[stone python]

oh, a lot of mistakes. Thought you meant you were going to hurt the alot

no hurty the alot, they are soft and fluffy

[spare cradle]

I sharded a purple sluggie

[dusky hedge]

no big deal just dont do it agian or puppies will die

[stone python]

not the doggos!

[stoic nebula]

ada like ding do the best thing for humanity if you wish for the longing existence of puppies and/or kittens

[spare cradle]

Is there no reason for me to make a sorting storage if I have the DD?

[dusky hedge]

personal storage is a god send

[hardy vector]

DD only stores a few stacks if upgraded

[dusky hedge]

like if you need an item, yoiu can dropp a manufacturer 4 containers and fill them with the things they need

[stone python]

you dont need it, but a central storage is still fun to build

[dusky hedge]

then come back in an hour to a big stack of it

[misty pasture]

im saving up my pocket money from doing chores around the house to buy satisfactory

[dusky hedge]

nice

it was 30% off yesterday i think

[misty pasture]

it still is i checked a few mins ago

[dusky hedge]

might have to sweet talk mum to get it early

save some dollars

[misty pasture]

it goes off sale in 10 hours

[dusky hedge]

tell her its a math and geometry game 😄

its not a lie

[misty pasture]

or u can build a belt-nado

[feral jay]

Tell her it'll help develop your organizational and planning skillz

[misty pasture]

ok

[feral jay]

Definitely not a lie

[stone python]

could exacerbate the issue and make them develop a love for the sphaget

[feral jay]

And apprecieate why it's b ad

[spare cradle]

But it should constantly refill

[stone python]

the sphaget is divine

[spare cradle]

It would be nice for the things I would need to build but not constantly

Like the eventual motor or rotor

[misty pasture]

ok i think its a yes

[stone python]

tell your mom there is even a manual on fluid dynamics for the game

that should sell it

[halcyon dew]

PRAISE BE TO SPACE KING

[stone python]

NO, GIRLS, ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWED

[wet cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-wuah-screaming-aaaa-gif-3574844821905245132

[stone python]

https://tenor.com/view/space-king-hatemonger-hate-monger-space-king-flashgitz-flashgitz-gif-10797088394008925753

[wet cloak]

So over

[spare cradle]

Lovely SAM.

I think that's what I am gonna call that other voice, than ADA

[terse rain]

it's high key satisfying to use constructors with the cool S to make a bunch of power shards

[stone python]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-and-stone-deep-rock-galactic-gif-25114877

[spare cradle]

R&S

[terse rain]

imma use 3 power shards on every oil extractor on the north side of the map and make the largest polymer factory I can without importing with trains

[stone python]

yeah, sloops are awesome

[terse rain]

3,450 crude oil per min

[dusky hedge]

nitro?

[sick falcon]

i dont want to tear down my coal generators :(

[spare cradle]

do it

[dusky hedge]

make it look like a museum

[stone python]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[sick falcon]

shutting them off feels like that one reze gif 😭

[spare cradle]

What is your power grid like?

[whole drum]

Offer to do extra chores then. Explain that it's on sale and that the offer expires soon.

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message

[spare cradle]

Numbers. The graph.

[terse rain]

wait what?

[misty pasture]

ok got it

[feral jay]

Just automated and turned on 20 crystal oscillators/min

Thta'll take a while to spool up

[sick falcon]

yea thats the graph

[stone python]

welcome to the rest of your life

[misty pasture]

lol

[terse rain]

recycled plastic is 6 rubber and some fuel to make 12 plastic
and recycled rubber is 6 plastic and some fuel to make 12 rubber

[misty pasture]

ok me play now

[stone python]

yup, you can make a really nice recycled plant and produce more plastic and rubber with the same oil input, each plant will feed into each other. its really cool

[terse rain]

so if I just got some starting plastic/rubber and converted all of my oil to fuel? would I get more plastic and rubber per min compared to just using polymer resin?

[ember moon]

Why hello

[dusky hedge]

i had a trickle of both from the base recipe and it did fine with a storage container of each

[stone python]

you have to be constantly making rubber and plastic for the system to work

[dusky hedge]

no need to over engineer it til you know hwat you need it for

[misty pasture]

ok now im going to build the most unholy spagat ever know to all of mankind :3

[stone python]

DO IT

[ember moon]

No

[misty pasture]

its still at 37%

[terse rain]

not really. just need to constantly make fuel and feed the outputs of the plastic refineries into the rubber refineries and the output of the rubber refineries into the plastic refineries with the overflow being the actual output

you put a bit to kick it off but it'll feed itself

[stone python]

trust, if you do not constantly make rubber and plastic, it will eventually shut down

[terse rain]

I don't follow

[stone python]

one sec

[terse rain]

the rubber will be made with plastic and the plastic with rubber. only REALLY consuming fuel

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1456610683482406962
Embrace teh spaghetti, Love the spaghetti. ❤️

[terse rain]

just use smart splitters on the outputs of the rubber and plastic lines. "any" towards the other refineries and overflow to the storage.

it'll prioritize sending the plastic and rubber back into the system and send the extra to the storage

[misty pasture]

ok its at 57%

[stone python]

see: #screenshots message

[terse rain]

making plastic and rubber essentially from just fuel

[stoic nebula]

me spretending the need to build nuke factory isnt a thing

[spare cradle]

Gut that coal gen, you don't need it lol

[stone python]

im bad at eexplaining, so i made a visual

[sick falcon]

is there a hotkey to trash things in my inventory or do i need to click and drag

[stone python]

sorry, new link

[feral jay]

no hotkey afaik

[terse rain]

ur making more rubber than plastic? just make the same amount of both

[stone python]

#screenshots message

[cursive crane]

Dont trash put it in dd or in sink [no]

[stone python]

i forgot to set both to maximize

[misty pasture]

when ur dispossing on nuklear waste why dont just put it in the grinder thingy that give u tickets that i forgot the name of

[hybrid nymph]

I got some news for you guys, I am going to start streaming Satisfactory on Twitch and YouTube

[terse rain]

why are you inputting rubber? just hook the output of the rubber to the plastic and the plastic to the rubber?

[hybrid nymph]

you can't awesome sink nuclear waste

[stone python]

because the system canibalizes it

[misty pasture]

oh ok

[stone python]

you HAVE top feed it

[terse rain]

not according to the recipes?

[hybrid nymph]

Nuclear waste CANNOT BE DESTROYED! FICSIT DOES NOT WASTE!

[misty pasture]

ok im sorry

[terse rain]

it can be turned into fuel rods then send to the sink tho

[hybrid nymph]

that's true, you can turn it into plutonium fuel rods and awesome sink it for a waste free setup

[terse rain]

or just flush it all down the toilet

[misty pasture]

why cant u feed the nulkear waste to lizard doggo to turn it into godzilla doggo

[hybrid nymph]

or you could also jsut use those ful rods, as plutonium fuel rods are twice as efficient as uranium fuel rods

[misty pasture]

its at 62%

[hybrid nymph]

then store the plutonium waste, as plutonium fuel rods produce 5 times less waste per fuel rod than uranium does

[sick falcon]

feeding nuclear waste to lizard doggos and then arranging accidents for them is a great way to get rid of waste :)

[hybrid nymph]

I really wish you could just make MOX Nuclear fuel instead

[misty pasture]

yes ik that i watch lgto

ok its at 70%

[stone python]

you have to produce more of one of them to get out of the cycle of the snake eating its own tail. the system consumes what it makes if it isnt lopsided

[hybrid nymph]

or hear me out, you could just use fuel generators instead, as 4 fully overclocked fuel generators produce the same power as one nuclear reactor

[stone python]

in a perfectly closed loop where you only feed fuel, it will just run forever without actually producing anything as an output

[misty pasture]

im scared stop using big words i cant understand

[dusky hedge]

@terse rain what do you need rubber and plastic for?

[hybrid nymph]

Cranky's Advice: Git Gud

[terse rain]

so REALLY it's 12m^3 of fuel->6 rubber and 6 plastic

[stone python]

all those pesky boxes the screws go into

[terse rain]

adhered plates, coated plates, rubber concrete

[dusky hedge]

ah, i skipped all those, are any of them really good?

[misty pasture]

what do u need the adhredsfs plates, coated plates and rubber concrete for

[terse rain]

according to past me yes

[sick falcon]

soooo 10% as effective

[feral jay]

To build other things, the whole game is about building simpler things so you can build more complex things

[dusky hedge]

im planning to go wet concrete route but never really looked into it
stitched plates

[misty pasture]

so if i eat all those items then ill poop out a better item

[dusky hedge]

havent needed even one pure lime node so far

[hybrid nymph]

the most useful alternate recipies are: stitched iron plates, steeled modular frames, and iron screws

[misty pasture]

its at 80%

[hybrid nymph]

I don't know about you but I HATE CRAFTING SCREWS

[dusky hedge]

i would add nitro rocket fuel to the list

[hybrid nymph]

there is too many steps to make them

[misty pasture]

i eat screws for breakfast

[hybrid nymph]

sounds unhealthy

[dusky hedge]

screws are a throughput nightmare aswell

[feral jay]

Screws are evil, but quickwire is the fricken devil incarnate

[strange depot]

Using Controller - how do I access the calculator (search) screen?

[dusky hedge]

n

[misty pasture]

just eat the iron ingot then ur belly composses them into screws then u poop out the screws

[feral jay]

!wikisearch controls

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=controls

[strange depot]

Tried that. When controller is set, hot keys doesn't work it seems.

[terse rain]

52.5 plastic + 262.5 iron ingots= 525 iron plates(most iron efficient it doubles the iron vs steel cast plate which is a 2->3)

157.5 rubber + 472.5 iron plates= 157.5 reinforced iron plates(most iron efficient at 3->1 vs 6+->1)

[grizzled lotus]

were crystal oscillators always this damn slow to manufacture?

[feral jay]

yup, I just automated 20/min, that factory is YUGE

I ran out of cable just plopping the manufacturers

[misty pasture]

ender what sort of mumbo jumbo r u talking about

its at 87%

[dusky hedge]

iron is the least rare resource we have

[feral jay]

THis game needs a lot of math

[dusky hedge]

its basic math for most things

[misty pasture]

i have -17 braincells is that enough

[feral jay]

Oh yeah, sure, basic math, just lots of it

[misty pasture]

91%

[terse rain]

consumes the least amount of iron for both which is probably why I chose it.

and rubber concrete is 10 limestone for 9 concrete, while wet concrete is 6->4 and fine concrete is 6->5

[sterile blade]

Limestone be like:

[terse rain]

so although I need to ship more materials around I consume the least amount overall for this project

[misty pasture]

im having green pasta for dinner i think its radioactive

[dusky hedge]

i havent had to write any math down yet
maybe thats why i make so many mistakes 🤔

[misty pasture]

its at 97%

[sterile blade]

Today is the day I finally bothered to notice that rubber concrete is more ore-efficient than fine concrete.
I greatly value this piece of knowledge

[misty pasture]

99

yay its done

[grizzled lotus]

I never bother with the math. I just see which factory is stalling and fix that

[misty pasture]

ok spagat time

[dusky hedge]

woohoo

[terse rain]

wym? you get 83.33% of the limestone as concrete. but rubber concrete is 90%

that's almost 7% more concrete for the same amount of limestone

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I swapped them 🤦‍♂️ 😆

(Way to show how much I value that nugget of info xD)

[dusky hedge]

why sacrifice oil for stone?

[terse rain]

and in this project I'm already consuming 3,349.1 units/min of limestone

[terse rain]

why sacrifice quartz?

[rose pollen]

I just finished automating 1500 diamonds a minute for time crystals for synthetics and mk6 belts

[dusky hedge]

i will sacrifice water for stone

[terse rain]

more concrete per limestone if u use just a bit of rubber. way more efficient than wet concrete

[dusky hedge]

tbf my opinion might not count cos i use about 30 per minute 😂

[terse rain]

this project I'm doing has a LOT of alt recipes for the simple things I'm making(purely for building purposes) all to reduce the overall amount of resources I'm using for it
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_IronRod_C"%3A"48"%2C"Desc_IronScrew_C"%3A"260"%2C"Desc_IronPlate_C"%3A"52.5"%2C"Desc_IronPlateReinforced_C"%3A"45.5"%2C"Desc_SteelPipe_C"%3A"50"%2C"Desc_SteelPlate_C"%3A"45"%2C"Desc_SteelPlateReinforced_C"%3A"48"%2C"Desc_ModularFrame_C"%3A"48"%2C"Desc_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%3A"45"%2C"Desc_Rotor_C"%3A"45"%2C"Desc_Stator_C"%3A"45"%2C"Desc_Motor_C"%3A"45"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_SteelRod_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Screw_2_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CoatedIronPlate_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_AdheredIronPlate_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteelPipe_Molded_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteelBeam_Molded_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_EncasedIndustrialBeam_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrame_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Rotor_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Motor_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Screw_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CoatedCable_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Computer_2_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Gunpowder_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_FusedWire_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_HeavyOilResidue_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CrystalOscillator_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_AILimiter_Plastic_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_PureCateriumIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_PureCopperIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_PureIronIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_PureQuartzCrystal_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_RubberConcrete_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CircuitBoard_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_HighSpeedConnector_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_IngotSteel_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteamedCopperSheet_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualFuel_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualPlastic_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualRubber_C"]}

45->52.5 per min of a lot of things I use that involve iron

except screws. I get 260/min of those

all 12 different items will be automatically sent to the cloud so I'll always have em to build with

[dusky hedge]

so it will most likely never be running at full capacity

[sterile blade]

I'll consider it the first time I'll be running out of Limestone, while swimming in Rubber... Which seems abismally unlikely, but who knows...

[hybrid nymph]

hey guys what's going on?

[terse rain]

probably not. but I needed something to do that wasn't the space elevator. I came up with this at like 3am one day and for some reason I've been sticking to it

[dusky hedge]

3am me always knows things that daytime me doesnt understand 😉

[terse rain]

idk what else to do. cause I really don't care for completing the space elevator. it's gonna take sooo looong

[sterile blade]

Recommend trying out any calculator that isn't SCIM. Others don't make mistakes like it and don't take up a kilometer of chat with a link

[terse rain]

I think originally I was gonna try and make the largest nuclear plant I COULD but I saw so many videos of ppl doing that so I lost all motivation

ficsit is judging me for how many hours I've been playing

[dusky hedge]

i thinkk a good achievement would be the most tickets per minute, im sure not oo many ppl have tried for the top 100

[terse rain]

what item gives the most amount of points?

[stone python]

@terse rain i guess if all you wanted was essentially free plastic and rubber, you could create the closed loop and just input fuel as long as you had the needed rubber and plastic to start the whole thing up. never really thought much about it since i just the resin created from the HOR to create the fuel to create extra rubber which allowed me to inject said rubber into the recyclked system for a more overall higher output of both plastic and rubber.

[dusky hedge]

the irony being that the sooner you do it hte higher you can get

[hybrid nymph]

ballistic warp drives, they give 2.5 million points

[sterile blade]

Achievements don't feel very achieving when one can get them with mods active tbh 🤷‍♂️

[dusky hedge]

ah that sucks

[stone python]

make 60 nuclear pasta per min

[terse rain]

idk what that is but I'm suddenly hungry

[hybrid nymph]

honestly if you can make 50 ballisic warp drives in about a minute you can afford anything in the awesome shop

[sterile blade]

It's a part to complete the space elevator xD

[terse rain]

been genuinely considering starting a new world for a clean slate but idk what I'd do other than the space elevator so...

[sterile blade]

Nowadays, even making 60/min of all belt materials can be quite the production line due to MK6 ^^

[hybrid nymph]

no worries this is my 5th playthrough, I usually stopped at nuclear power

I have never got past tier 8 yet

[stone python]

you have to use nearly all the copper in the game to make 60/min nuclear pasta, due to the copper powder

[sterile blade]

Uhm. Right... Not sure why you're telling me that

[terse rain]

I haven't done anything in tier 8 yet

[hybrid nymph]

I have 332 coupons, is that a lot of coupons?

[sterile blade]

That's like 332 stacks of screws you could buy

[stone python]

just continuing the coversation, it isnt that deep.

[dusky hedge]

speed runs can add a new challenge to these games, like deleting everything in the editor and starting with everythng unlocked, then launch the elevator as fast as youi can without sloops or shards, idk think of anythng that might make it fun or challenging. but yoiu wil have all recipes and items unlocked

[terse rain]

never been big on speed runs. I mostly do big long projects

[stone python]

then do that nuclear plant you wanted to do 👀

[hybrid nymph]

I prefer to take my time, I have 107 hours in this save so far

[terse rain]

but everyone has already done thaaat

[dusky hedge]

i never relly liked sped runs until i did the no spooin chjallenge in factorio, now i feel like im always on the clock in some way

[stone python]

you could say that about any aspect of the game really

[terse rain]

basically saw 10 ppl doing the same thing and got demotivated

[sterile blade]

I mean, my point was that it takes as "small" an objective as just "make 60/min of building items" rather than 60/min of a SPELEVATOR part (which should be one of the most expensive things to do) to get a huge production going. Nuclear Pasta is famous for being an ore guzzler, so the direction of your comment left me going ""

[stone python]

make yours unique...like uh....make it in the shape og a nuclear plant

[dusky hedge]

you could do a competitive multiplay, start on oposite sides ot ehe map and race for resources@terse rain

[terse rain]

that requires friends

[stone python]

not everyone knows pasta takes copper powder which guzzles copper ore

[dusky hedge]

or enemies 🙃

[stone python]

which in turn couyld mean they dont understand why i suggested making only 60/min of it

[stone python]

who has time for THOSE

[hybrid nymph]

I used to play with friend, not anymore

[sterile blade]

I'd suggest not adding the ping if your reply is "generic" rather than to one person then xD

[stone python]

it was a flow of conversation, again, it isnt that deep. Idk what your issue is man.

[dusky hedge]

the spaghetti curse? 😕

[hybrid nymph]

I try my best to make my belts organized

[stone python]

i love sitting in VC with friends while we play on different saves. I can't play with others :wheeze:

[sterile blade]

If you @ it seems like you're talking to someone specific, not just addressing a convo ^^
Just a simple misunderstanding, easy to solve with better use of @

[rose pollen]

And before I got off I finished automating 500 power shards a min

[stone python]

there isnt anything about a "better use of @" you are just on some weird power trip and idk why. take your own advice. this conversation is over.

[dusky hedge]

that gets you off? 😮

[stone python]

HAHAHAHA

[reef basin]

a classic in this discord 🙂

[rose pollen]

Time to massively upscale my factory

[dusky hedge]

i think i must be playing this game wrong

[rose pollen]

It dont for you? I may jeed to see a psychiatrist

[stone python]

i mean, have you SEEN the particle accelerators

[sterile blade]

"Power trip" for replying to my message with something supposedly not for me but for "everyone", with notification to boot?
I don't follow, but sure is worth dropping if that's your take o.O

[rose pollen]

FOR REAL Harry we are gonna save the world!

Mk6 belts and particle accels and the converters and encoders the factory line looks sick

[stone python]

love me the green lights

[sterile blade]

Subject unclear

[rose pollen]

And the excited photonic matter that gets created just off od power is my fav

I wanna make a wall of 1.2m/m excited photonic matter when I finish the gane

[stone python]

thats...a lot of matter

[reef basin]

I meant the "get pinged on unrelated msg with unrelated topic". Happens to me like every day, I reply to some person and then a completely different person replies to my msg with a random question completely not related to the conversation we were having

[severe pewter]

-does anybody else play this game for the numbers?

[stone python]

that isnt at all what happened. they pinged me in response to a message i wrote, and then acted confused as to why i pinged them when i replied, continuing the conversation.

[rose pollen]

It was originally gonna be 10 mill but idk if console version cal handle that jus yet its lagging pretty hard with my many huge favtorys scattered

[dusky hedge]

im certainly not adept at understanding social queues, but if a message mentions your name its directed at you, if it replys to your message it is to give context to everyone, it just happens to ping you as well
maybe there should be a way to quote a mesage without pinging the poster

[rose pollen]

Console version is holding up pretty good so far tho dont compare to modded on pc tho

[stone python]

you can hold shift when replying to remove the @

[dusky hedge]

cool ty

[severe pewter]

Still got me some vanilla

[rose pollen]

Aye!

Dying breed

The console release made me appreciate mods

Im on phase 5 haven't started np yet

[full wagon]

i didnt know satisfactory would be so addicting i bought it 10 days ago and i played an avergage of 9h a day

[hybrid nymph]

yep it does do that, I play for about 4-6 hours a day

best game in my steam library, well worth the price, even at full price

worth every penny

[rose pollen]

I found a dupe glitch💀

I have over 15k somersloops

And i just got golden nut achievement 🤣

[reef basin]

well the only one you're cheating is you

[rose pollen]

Naw this is my alt account lmaoo

I was just testing random bs and something worked a little too well

[hybrid nymph]

I don't believe in duping, i like playing legit

only person you're cheating is yourself

[rose pollen]

I habe over 6000 hours on this game im trying to break it

[reef basin]

eh, how is alt account related to what I said?

[hybrid nymph]

oh well you're good then

jesus 6000 hours?

[rose pollen]

Yea

I play modded mc like the create mod and factory mods all the time

[hybrid nymph]

if you played for 6 hours a day it would take you nearly 3 years to get to that many hours

[rose pollen]

Since like 2017 then 2019 satisfactory came out 2019

[rose pollen]

🤣🫣

Yea ik lmao

[hybrid nymph]

I have 560 hours in the game

[rose pollen]

I used to play factorio

[hybrid nymph]

Modded Minecraft is my favorite game, I have 1200 hours in that game

[rose pollen]

Ayee

[hybrid nymph]

Smash bros Brawl is next with 856 hours

[rose pollen]

My highest of 2025 was marvel rivals lmaoo at over 1500

[hybrid nymph]

Diablo 3 is 3rd with 800 hours

[rose pollen]

Mind you as soon as I get off work im gaming

[hybrid nymph]

Satisfactory is 4th with 560 hours

and Simcity 5 is 5th with 378 hours

[rose pollen]

All my homies are from the states so basically gaming nd work on weekdays gym and gaming in the weekend

[hallow crow]

damn are u guys talking abt ur steam replay?

damn i cant post my replay here

sad times

[rose pollen]

I play alot of story games like well over 500 different titles idk how many hours but collectively ive probably played in life time 122k hours

Just about 15 years of my life 💀

[hybrid nymph]

yuppers we shure are

[rose pollen]

Mind you im 20

[hybrid nymph]

over the first 25 years of life it's estimated that most boys will play 10,000 hours of video games

[rose pollen]

Ive spent 3 quarters of my life on a game while still playing sports and shit lmaooo

[hybrid nymph]

I'm just a fat f*** that plays too many games

I am 6'1 and weigh 220

I like beer too much

[rose pollen]

U def ain't fat bro🫂

That's like dad body nothing to be ashamed about fr

[hybrid nymph]

well thank you I appreciate your kind words

trying to get back down to 195

[sterile blade]

There being the possibility to remove the @ is exactly what differentiates between answering someone or just continuing a convo from a certain point imo 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid nymph]

that's my ideal weight according to my doctor

[rose pollen]

I believe in you bro!

[hybrid nymph]

I work out 5 days a week and walk 5 miles a day and I'm still fat!

[rose pollen]

We should go to the offtopic ngl

[dusky hedge]

yeah just learned that before, ty

[rose pollen]

🤣

[hybrid nymph]

yeah back to the game

I am currently working on my oil plant

I just upgraded my coal power, I have 80 coal generators

[rose pollen]

while we were talking my fiance found an even crazier dupe glitch omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Console version is cooked

I miss pc

[hybrid nymph]

too bad PC and console aren't crossplatform, because of mods

[rose pollen]

I can dupe 2400 somer sloops a min wth

I feel I need to send this into css

[hybrid nymph]

I don't understand what would be so hard for Coffe Stain to make a mod manager for console where you could just download mods directly from within the game

[rose pollen]

Like fallout 4 yea

[leaden turret]

they didn't make the current one.

[hybrid nymph]

exactly!

just like fallout 4 or Skyrim

[sterile blade]

BTW, there was a very fun little glitch where editing a reply message with the @ disabled automatically added the @ and threw notifications accordingly... 🤦‍♂️
As you can imagine, it created quite a bit if confusion and annoyance, especially for roles with specific rules about pings (eg: CoffeeStainers in this server)

[hybrid nymph]

I modded Skyrim on my Xbox 360

[dusky hedge]

this game is extremely complicated compared to fallout and skyrim

[leaden turret]

-# except for the bit where the official fallout 4 / skyrim mod manager is terrible

complexity of the game is moot

[hybrid nymph]

I downloaded the Bionicle mod, that mod is awesome!!

[dusky hedge]

aparrently holding shift when clicking reply wremoves it automatically

[rose pollen]

Ok wait its the vehicles there glitched if u drive them onto a blueprint full of stuff save it as a blueprint delete the vehicle and then load the bp back the vehicle loads in aswell full of loot

Is this a known glitch? That I just subbed across

[fluid crow]

I find it ironic that as a noob you're likely to start oil exploration dumping waste in the ocean

[dusky hedge]

complexity and optimization are related

[leaden turret]

• Satisfactory doesn't have official mod support
• CSS didn't make the current mod manager
• CSS can't make a mod manager for Console without making one at all first, which would fracture the modding community

[sterile blade]

Yeah, it was the same then. It's just that editing the message acted as if one had just sent a new message with the @ (even if one made sure it was off!)

[hybrid nymph]

what about is CSS made it so if you play crossplatform it automatically just disables all mods installed?

[rose pollen]

They could just ask the original devs for there mods code...

[leaden turret]

not when it comes to modding

[rose pollen]

Theres like 10 main Modders

[hybrid nymph]

there are some simple mods like the glass fluid tanks that should be part of the game

[rose pollen]

And curved building

[hybrid nymph]

yes exactly!

[sterile blade]

That is actively discussed on the QA site ^^

[leaden turret]

individual mod developers is not relevant to the subject of the mod manager itself.

[dusky hedge]

if a mod reduced optimization/preformance , then it can make the game look bad, trusting the system to modders is a risk to the brand

[hybrid nymph]

I love the refined power mod, solar and wind is amazing!

[leaden turret]

the Satisfactory mod manager has been an independant community-driven effort for years without issue.

[sterile blade]

Tbh, imo the first "external" thing they should add would be the complete PDF of the Plumbing Manual...

[rose pollen]

I dont think your understanding my point tho if css was to make a mod manager they could very very easily ask the original designer to create them one for the game and then get the main modders who make mods for satisfactory to make them console compatible the same way fall out and skyrim have done it

[dusky hedge]

consoles are different and unupgradable

[sterile blade]

Zero risk to the code. Zero bugs.

Just benefits

[leaden turret]

you're also not understanding the point of "fracturing the modding community"

[leaden turret]

also unrelated to the discussion at hand

[hybrid nymph]

PC Master Race is BEST!!

Nothing beats the glorious

PC Master Race!!

[rose pollen]

Console is more affordable

And we can basically play the same games lmao

[hybrid nymph]

Console in inferior to the power of the Dark Side

[leaden turret]

I have previously suggested they include the PDF in the community resources folder, such that clicking the book in the game opens the file

[rose pollen]

Especially now with steam having being in the talks to come to console

Exclusives coming to a halt

[sterile blade]

Right?!?
I was so disappointed when I saw the piping manual in the HUB as I immediately expected it to do that! 😭

[hybrid nymph]

I bought a Wii U for one game

LEGO Dimensions

[leaden turret]

looks at Console
looks at @grave burrow's save files
looks at CSS's PCs crashing when opening opening BLAndrew575's save files

[now is the time we throw our heads back and laugh]

[rose pollen]

Nintendo sucks id rather jailbreak a Nintendo switch and have every Nintendo game made

[hybrid nymph]

My sister bought a modded 3DS

with every game on it

[rose pollen]

So worth it

I love 3ds

[hybrid nymph]

she's currently playing Pokemon X&Y

[dusky hedge]

i was playing this game on a 980ti a few weeks ago, and it was playable but if i was making videos it would make the game look bad to an audience
the pc audience is always aware of hardware restrictions and its comon to ask if there is an issue but consoles are more yes or no, it plays well or it doesnt

[leaden turret]

• Don't discuss illegal activities (eg. Piracy etc.).
#rules

[dusky hedge]

its likely that they make the game run as good as possible on the consoles and dont have room to push more out of them

[rose pollen]

Im on ps5 pro on a 700 dollar moniter yo maximise performance i run 4k native on 120hrtz

Like I seriously dont get the console slander

[hybrid nymph]

I currently have a RTX 2070 Super Overclocked to 2070 MHz and a Ryzen 7 5800X overclocked to 4.8 GHz

[dusky hedge]

slander 😮

[rose pollen]

My entire set up costed like 1200 dollars

[dusky hedge]

i was a ps guy hten i was an xbox guy now im a pc guy

[rose pollen]

My pc costed like 3k

[hybrid nymph]

I am going to buy a $4000 computer once I get my IT job

[open gust]

Is overclocking an exact triple of intake and output or does it complicate the math?

[leaden turret]

backwards compatibility

[rose pollen]

I own a ps3 and 2 lmao

[hybrid nymph]

Overclocking is pretty easy, espicially the GPU

[leaden turret]

overclocking is straightforward with regards to resources, complex with regards to power

[rose pollen]

Never been worried about thag

[hybrid nymph]

I'm an overclocking expert and I hold 5 world records on 3DMark

[rose pollen]

And every ps1 game has been remastered on ps5

[open gust]

Thanks

[hybrid nymph]

Your GPU is what spits out more frames in games, so it's really not worth overclocking your CPU, especially your RAM

[leaden turret]

-# you forgot to budget for RAM

[open gust]

So if I build a factory and overclock everything would that be more or less as building the same factory again

[dusky hedge]

the first ps1 game i checked is not available on ps5 , according to the ai but it lies a lot

[hybrid nymph]

I did budget for RAM

[leaden turret]

you're talking about the wrong overclocking for this channel. you want #off-topic-tech

[hybrid nymph]

I'm buying a 5070TI, Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 64 GB of DDR5 RAm, and a 4TB M.2

oh sorry lol

[jovial lark]

Hello, I have a question about the Christmas event: will we keep the decorations and the items we made?

[dusky hedge]

my 9800x3d runs hot all the time

[leaden turret]

I underclock my coalgen water extractors to be 1:1 with each coalgen, then when I get mk.2 pipes I increase it to 1:2 so I don't have to lay out more extractors

[rose pollen]

I upgraded to 64gb of ram like last year thank god

[hybrid nymph]

sounds like someone needs an AIO lol

I currently have 32 GB of RAM

[leaden turret]

stuff looks the same but machines stop producing

[dusky hedge]

360mm

overkille

[hybrid nymph]

but I video edit so I need that much, my editing software eats up 16GB of RAM alone when video rendering

[dusky hedge]

fair

[rose pollen]

Jesus

[dusky hedge]

ill prolly underclock it when i get time and the motivation

[rose pollen]

I think I still habe an unopened 16gb ddr5 gskill trident sitting somewhere

Cuz I bought 1 too many

[hybrid nymph]

I'm using Corsair Vengeance

[jovial lark]

Okay, but if I produce large quantities of gifts, can I still create products?

[leaden turret]

nope

[cursive crane]

Dont they keep producing so long as you have the presents?
Last chrismas I made like 8 large industrials full of em and the trees stop making but i thought everything else keeps going

[leaden turret]

I think when half of my vertical monitor is full of off-topic chat, people need to shush and move to off-topic channels.

[hybrid nymph]

here let me post a picture of my PC on #off-topic-tech

[leaden turret]

nope.

[jovial lark]

And last question: do I keep the production already created in containers?

[cursive crane]

Hmm. I swear it did. You just cant make new machines or change recipes without losing it

[leaden turret]

stuff in storage doesn't evaporate, so you're safe

[rose pollen]

GULP ive upsetted the gamer man

[hybrid nymph]

Just posted a picture of my PC on #off-topic-tech

[jovial lark]

but decorations on cables will no longer be possible

[hybrid nymph]

for those who want to see it

[cursive crane]

Marv is highly valued community pillar

[dusky hedge]

i tried to avoid rgb but it was impossible

[leaden turret]

if you don't finish decorating for FICSMAS by January 18th, your factory will have to wait a year.

or just use a mod if you're on PC.

[leaden turret]

in before someone else says "highly valued community pillock"

[cursive crane]

Or just ||change your system time||

[jovial lark]

thank you very much

[leaden turret]

||not feasible for long-term use, because it messes with https||

[dusky hedge]

could you just stop updates?

[leaden turret]

it's not activated/deactivated with a game update

[cursive crane]

Wdym? Like what happens?

Oh

Nvm, i gotchu. Thought you meant affects game.

[dusky hedge]

so if youplayed offline yoiu couldnt do the christmas thing?

[leaden turret]

nope. would need mod/system clock change.

[dusky hedge]

ah kk

[cursive crane]

If theres a mod for it, probably a lot easier option tbh

Modding community with the W

[hybrid nymph]

I was going to get the awesome sink mod to make it easier for coupons, so I can get the golden nut state achivement

after I finish the game

[leaden turret]

good thing cheating doesn't disable achievements

sarcasm

[misty pasture]

ok i got hub updrade 6 and im trying to build the space elevater

[hybrid nymph]

good thing lol

that's the only chating I would do, everything else 100% legit

[leaden turret]

cheating to achieve an achievement undermines the point of achieving the achievement.

[misty pasture]

i build automaker for contrete, iron pipes, and im currently making a auto copper one

[dusky hedge]

the oposite of an achievement

tbf youi could just let the game run in the background and get is anyway

[misty pasture]

and why bc im aussie the subtitles for the loading thing were ur in the pod and stuff why did it put it in aussie words

like when it said take a break it said crack a cold one

[dusky hedge]

lol

[misty pasture]

ok chatto its late i gotta go beddy byes cya

[keen marten]

hi. is this the place to discuss modding and mods for satisfactory?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @leaden turret

[unkempt blade]

yeah nothing wrong with having unfinished achievements if someone doesn't want to put the time in but faking it makes me wonder who they're trying to impress

none of the satis ones are "difficult" as is, they're just time consuming

[dusky hedge]

cheating for one achievement makes all other achievements worthless

[leaden turret]

it's more an issue of:

a) lying to everyone who views your list of achievements
b) never being able to know if you could've actually achieved the thing

this isn't quite the same thing as installing the enable achievements mod on a bethesda game because you're using mods to fix bugs in bethesda's buggy games 😛

[reef basin]

tbh I'm not sure why modding doesn't disable achievements

[leaden turret]

in that context, it's not cheating because it's a case of "I could've achieved the achievement had the bugs not existed in the first place" 😛

[clear tartan]

so every 5 refinery’s for oil to fuel you can support 10 fuel gens?

[unkempt blade]

I must be the wrong audience, I'm not sure I've ever checked someone else's achievements

[reef basin]

depends on recipes, check the numbers in machine UIs

[clear tartan]

ok

[leaden turret]

have you ever gotten that happy feeling when you look in steam and see the shiny border around an achievement because fewer than 90-95% of players got that achievement? 😛

[dusky hedge]

depends on the games you play and the ppl youi play with i guess

[reef basin]

yeah I don't really care about achievements much. The only time where I actually hunted for one was Factorio's lazy bastard and the 8 hour finish. Other than that, I just get them and ignore them, sometimes just check the %s on them to see how many people got them. But I never really push for 100%ing game

[unkempt blade]

yeah they can make fun goals for open ended games if you're just looking to do something new

[dusky hedge]

after doing lazy bastard once i cant imagine playing any other way now

[reef basin]

I don't limit myself to number of crafts, but I normally automate stuff anyway, so it wasn't that different

[keen marten]

yea i'm the same way.

it feels like cheating not doing it.

[dusky hedge]

yeah and it forces you ito think differently

on seablock it adds a few hours though 😐

[hardy vector]

And here I am still rumbling with my workstation from 2020. Xeon W-2235, 64GB RAM and GeForce GTX 1050 Ti.

[keen marten]

it also teaches you to think efficiently
so if you were to ever say go back to not doing lazy bastard, you'd wind up hitting a PB speed run

[unkempt blade]

But then circling back to Satis achievements. They're more of the "I played this game" variety. It's either one-off stuff you get by doing something once (bouncing on animals, unlock the cyberwagon, etc) that require very little work or stuff that requires a lot of time but you would get naturally just by finishing the game

[reef basin]

at that point I'd rather play BNW seablock

[dusky hedge]

there are actually some things i notice it speeds you up with, because it might take longer building a mall early, but then you arent hand crafting later on

[keen marten]

how do you feel about reusing blueprints? across playthroughs. does that feel like cheating?

[dusky hedge]

yeah i dont do it unless there is a reason

[unkempt blade]

unless you're doing a speedrun or something I wouldn't call that cheating

[dusky hedge]

if i cant build it atleast once then i shoudnt be using it

[leaden turret]

-# sarcastically suggesting that finishing the game in more than one sitting is cheating

[keen marten]

rn the only blueprints i'm reusing are for the power and smelting. things that are for sure not able to be optimized further and i have no creative freedom in building

[dusky hedge]

'feels like', kind of like letting your factory run over night instead of making it efficient

[keen marten]

WR any% speedruns are allowed to use bp's. they do it all the time.

[hardy vector]

I'd say if you only have the blueprint designer mk.1 unlocked and just import such blueprints which would be possible to make with the bpd mk1 does sound logically

[unkempt blade]

I've already finished the game a few times in EA and in 1.0 so I might just be less concerned with overcoming the game and more in sandbox mode now

[dusky hedge]

'yeah that would be a good reason

[unkempt blade]

interesting, I would have figured that would be an out of game advantage for stuff like that

maybe I just disagree with speedrunners assessment then 😆

[keen marten]

rn i'm kinda in the boat of. using someone else's bp if i spent enough time at the design and feel it's not worth my time (re)creating. for example a 4 to 3 belt balancer. i could design these and have done so on my tablet using a pencil. they just take so long todo. each one.

[unkempt blade]

For like DSP I used BPs more like an investment. My first save was a mess but I put in effort automating early game stuff and saved the builds I liked so it feels like I "earned" using those BPs in my second save

[keen marten]

but like a mall itself. i wouldn't consider re-using someone's bp. i could derrive inspiration for my mall/hub from someone else. but straight up ripping it feels wrong when the entire point of lazy bastard is creating a mall

[unkempt blade]

Now if I had gone online and taken someone else's BPs and never learned how the game worked... that's back to cheating territory imo

[dusky hedge]

i think it is about why you play, if you have already achieved somethingmany times it loses its luster, im more likely to play another game long before i get to that point

satisfactory unexpectedly interrupted my oxygen not included run

just put it on for a day for a break and got hooked again

[keen marten]

me too. you should watch a wr run. they'd teach you so much ideas on how to create things fast. it maybe things you've made before, but they have tricks in how to lay down items fast. or it maybe something like a steel smelting line, which you have one way of doing, but they prioritize speed.

the any% also can reuse seeds. it's not totally random

[dusky hedge]

if you want to take the monotony out of factorio, ghostplacer express and mouseover deconstruct save countless clicks, essential for mods like seablock

[unkempt blade]

I watched an EA one at some point but haven't seen a more recent one. I assume they've gotten much faster with BPs and dismantling crash sites and whatever else they've added since then

[keen marten]

but you'll often seeing the best people just rolling through tons of seeds looking at the preview looking for something better.

[severe pewter]

So hey, hear me out, I've been mulling over an idea. A lot of the time, especially when tearing down and exploring, I end up with a lot of crap in my inventory. I've been considering putting down a special storage chest that I can dump everything into, that will auto-process everything for me. -Most of the groundwork already exists for it anyway, so it wouldn't require a ton of modification.

Thoughts?

[leaden turret]

auto-sorting warehouse dump chest is a well-established practice 👍

[dusky hedge]

dimensional storage covers most, and sink for the rest

[severe pewter]

Is it really?

[leaden turret]

yup

[unkempt blade]

it's a fun project and also a very large project

[leaden turret]

depends on the size of your warehouse

[unkempt blade]

this was a pre-depot build I did that also accepted items from drones and trains #screenshots message

[keen marten]

i'm in the camp of never having beat oni or satisfactory or dyson sphere. but i've beaten factorio several times.
i want to beat satisfactory. why i just joined. but there's just things about it, like i tried multiple times and seem to lose interest around the same point in the game each time. one thing is the map isn't randomly generated, i don't see there being any way around that using mods. but i'm curious if mods could reignite a desire to beating the game and even though that it says and is suggested to beating the game vanilla, if you can't be bothered doing so, is using mods for your first playthrough wrong?

[severe pewter]

At this point, I'd just have to tap into the sink line, add a priority merger, and maybe a dozen and a half more dimensional storages. Higher tier belts would take care of the rest later.

[dusky hedge]

there is no wrong way to play, it just changes conversations when you are playing by different rules than others

[severe pewter]

What is oni? The only oni I've ever beaten is in Stepmania

[unkempt blade]

It's a sandbox game so you kind of need to make your own fun on replay. I'll roll dice to pick recipes for stuff. I also don't use the "best" alt recipes a lot of the time. I also overuse vehicles, etc. etc.

[keen marten]

oxygen not included

[severe pewter]

Ahh, okay. Oni just makes me think 'demon'

[dusky hedge]

oni was a hand holding game wanst it? puzzle where yo uhad to drag a girl all over the map

[keen marten]

interesting. i just watched a video of the best mods. these mods don't change the game. i imagine the game has severe hardcoded restrictions on what modders can and can't do. that's sad.

[dusky hedge]

i think one mod id like is the one to build a big square of foundations at once
no real advantage other than saving time

[severe pewter]

Idk, I believe it's Unreal Engine with some object use modifications

[keen marten]

i believe all modders can do is add custom models with their own functions. it doesn't seem that any modify the existing base-game functionality tbh

[leaden turret]

there is a wrong way to play, it's called "complain about how others have fun" 😛

[reef basin]

blueprint a square of foundations? 🙂

[dusky hedge]

ther ris a mod that does the big square, i think its 100 tiles or more

[severe pewter]

I agree. I can't seem to find anyone else who enjoys the magic of making crazy numbers fit together though, and only a couple that like to build by hand

[dusky hedge]

probably those people are playing more complex games

have you tried shapez 2?

[severe pewter]

One thing at a time, I haven't even finished this one yet

[dusky hedge]

id recommend playing atleast a hour of it and get it in your head, then over weeks yoiu will think of cool stuff to try when you play it later

[keen marten]

a first playthrough of factorio for example, or someone coming to play a modded version of stalker, i'd tell them to beat the dang game vanilla first, then mod it. doing that teaches you things that you might miss during a modded playthrough, like core game functionality you may miss.

with satisfactory tho. these mods are basic. i can't see anything altering a vanilla playthrough.

[sinful goblet]

Does some1 knows if its respawn time at leave and bushes?

[reef basin]

they do not respawn iirc

[leaden turret]

they don't

[dusky hedge]

i thikn i heard 3 in game days but idk for sure

[leaden turret]

that's for nuts & berries