satisfactory

[rich current]

Ratios are king.

[hazy void]

ive played other factory games so thats not hard for me

[golden nexus]

abstractions and releationships betwee nthe abstractions (gee, spot the programmer lol)

[rich current]

Then pay attention to detail and you'll pick this one right up. Factorio in the library on your end?

[atomic shadow]

anyone want to play im new to the game

[golden nexus]

I have never done Factorio

[hazy void]

yeah

[golden nexus]

goto #1201555265942724758

[atomic shadow]

nothiun there

[versed cosmos]

make a post silly!

[golden nexus]

Then put something there...

[rich current]

Then think of this as a 3D, version, limited only by the resource quality on the map. Even that can be bypassed on the higher tiers.

[golden nexus]

Captain of industry is a good one 🙂

its tougher than Satisfactory, So is Stationeers

[rich current]

That one's much more IRL based.

[rich current]

This one's still early access and evolving

Yes, I have all of them.

[golden nexus]

resouces are finite, i think satisfactory could do with a finite game mode, which involves a lot of trading and being efficent etc...

So the amount of power you are currently using matters

[hazy void]

hyper tubes r 2 way right?

[golden nexus]

Yes, Take burner for other end

[rich current]

So long as you've got an entrance on both end

[hazy void]

whats a burner

[golden nexus]

The entrace needs powered

biomass burner

[rich current]

Beginning power generation station

[golden nexus]

You do have blade runners?

[rich current]

Doubt at the moment.

[hazy void]

do i have to power both enterances on a 2 way hyper tube?

[golden nexus]

yup

but only in the directino of travel

So going there is no problem, coming back is.. so you take a biomass burner and insert like 5 fuel and let it burn out

until you get power out there... which you will need anyway

[hazy void]

oh damn it ive made like most of the trip w a hyper tube and no power

[tame bobcat]

so would it be fixed with reloading the game and its not anything to be worried abt

[teal geyser]

I just bought it at Christmas time as well. Looks pretty fun

[golden nexus]

the miing / teraforming stuff makes it what it is... there is a patch coming for it soon which is worth waiting for

[vague knot]

its not possible to automate biomass farming?

[rich current]

That is correct.

[leaden turret]

semi-automate yes, fully automate, not without mods

[feral jay]

It's supposed to be annoying and push you to better power sources

[rich current]

Modding may make it possible though

[vague knot]

i know thats the game intention its just that i got a really good recipe in a hard drive but requires biomass as base product

its over

[dense violet]

bio coal? it has a few niche uses

[vague knot]

yea. it doesnt work in coal recipes?

[feral jay]

I've never used biocoal

[golden nexus]

coal comes from a node.....

[dense violet]

it does, but because it can't be fully automated it's pretty niche

I've used it in some ammo factories though. Thigns I don't need running all the time

[rich current]

Biocoal can be used to fuel Coal Generators, but it's quite inefficient.

[vague knot]

yea i know i just wanted to get like an extra magic node to create more coal

[feral jay]

I run my ammo factories all the time lol

[rich current]

Explore.

[golden nexus]

Nope, Not that way

[rich current]

There's much more to the map.

[dense violet]

coal is all over the map 🙂

[thorn cave]

is it just me or does ada always call you dumb when you place your first coal gen

[vague knot]

i wanted to see if i could create biocoal in like an strategic location

[leaden turret]

that recipe is probably more intended to give you something to do with your biomass stockpile other than making liquid biofuel

[vague knot]

i want her to do that

[golden nexus]

ada insults thoughout

[rich current]

Ada is a unique personality that's a whole lot like Glados from the Portal Series. Degrading the player regularly.

[vague knot]

thats fine then. what do u do if both of the recipes are bad and u cant reroll

[golden nexus]

excellent you will never get them again

[dense violet]

recipes aren't bad - they have their uses

some are generalist and some are specialist

also most recipes tend to be 'better' depending on the other recipes you have and what location you're using

[thorn cave]

i know but this is my 2nd playthough and ada said that other pionners did it faster even thogh i was way faster this time than my 1st playthrough

[golden nexus]

biomass recipies are for making noblisk from sulphur node where you don't need a lot ofthem

[rich current]

Easiest solution - Make a save before starting the HD scan. Then you can re-roll infinitely to get the thing you're actually after.

[vague knot]

the other recipes wants me to give it 5 steel ingots + 3 concrete for 5 pipes

[feral jay]

Also used as a way for the developers/studio to troll the players, it's hilarious sometimes

[vague knot]

its lke an insult

[golden nexus]

whats wrong with that?

[dense violet]

yeah that saves you on steel. Nothing wrong with that

[vague knot]

oooooooh.......

[rich current]

Exactly like the "Totally Normal Ficsmas Gift"!

[dense violet]

jesus, just use the Advanced game settings

[dense violet]

you're like a kid being excited about loopholes

[feral jay]

If you're gonna do that, just "cheat" and save edit the game for the recipes you want, or use a mod

[rich current]

How do you think veterans get benefits with the VA?

[dense violet]

wow 2 things that aren't similar at all to be made into an argument. How ingenious

[tranquil zinc]

does anybody use floor conveyor holes? are these bugged? #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

yes

[tranquil zinc]

yes as in bugged?

[golden nexus]

No they work fine

connec tthe thing to the hole first

[tranquil zinc]

it is #screenshots message

[lapis dome]

how can i destroy trees?

[tranquil zinc]

tried destroying and rebuilding, does not work

[dense violet]

nothing in the image suggests a bug?

[rich current]

Chainsaw if looking for biomass, most flavor of Noblisk will clear.

[lapis dome]

have neither :(

[tranquil zinc]

bottom floor is not moving the ingots. Top floor is moving it to the hole, but bottom floor is not showing the goods

at the end of my rope here

[rich current]

Being deliberate with the placement of the conveyor will solve your issue.

[tranquil zinc]

wdym?

[rich current]

Then I would suggest continuing through the tech tree

[lapis dome]

can i make it os i dont have to hold to snap to grid?

[rich current]

You can start in the middle of multiple holes, so long as they're properly aligned, it should work.

[dense violet]

save and reload

[tranquil zinc]

omg, destryong the top and building it again works.....

spent almost an hour fixing this issue man..

and I am only at tier 3 lol

[rich current]

Probably means that you didn't use the reversing tool when setting up.

[dense violet]

either save / reload
or rebuild a section is often a solution

[lapis shadow]

I'm going to make my first long-distance conveyor highway is there some things to note before I make it so that I can future proof a bit better? I was just gonna make them a few meters high so that myself/vehicles may fit underneath but that was about it

[dense violet]

not really. Belt highways are the least futureproofable logistics you can really do

[rich current]

This doesn't work the same as Factorio in the most basic sense.

[dense violet]

also, don't future proof, generally a waste of time and effort since you don't know what you're building

[rich current]

Build what you need, can power, and supply. The need is always evolving.

[hazy void]

IVE FINALLY MADE IT THE OIL NODE

[versed cosmos]

its not that far from grass fields man

but yeah just use what the node gives u and make ur plastic and rubber for now

turn heavy oil residue into coke and sink it

get through the milestones and then you can build something more permanent

[rich current]

I do temp builds until Tier 9

[ember cedar]

Should I automate the turbo engine in Phase 4? I'm currently completing the "Particle Enrichment" milestone.

[rich current]

I just have the patience for it though.

[dense violet]

automate all the basic parts

[versed cosmos]

how long do you keep a temp build until its a permament build lol

[ember cedar]

What do you mean???????

[rich current]

Only as long as it is useful.

[versed cosmos]

the parts that make the part youre trying to make

[dense violet]

the game is about automation - you should probably automate all non space parts
turbo motor isn't a space part

[versed cosmos]

then just shove it all in containers feeding an assembler/manufacturer/whatever

[rich current]

There's no harm in making a "mall" to make your construction life easier.

Especially when you've got Dimensional Depot available.

[drowsy kelp]

i'm having issues with train signals in blueprints, i can't get it to point any direction but out

so the signal's the wrong way around

is there like... an actual reason for this or do the trains just hate me

the scroll wheel isn't doing anything

[tepid herald]

Can't lie. This game lowk fire

[sullen gull]

Fak that lowkey, Straight up blaze! .... imo 😏

[versed cosmos]

pretty awesome game

only downside is where the fuck did the past 12 hours go

[real shale]

Its pretty [insert modern day slang here]

[sullen gull]

Or 20 on the weekends 🤣

[versed cosmos]

sleep deprived
forgot to eat
havent so much as smelled water in 8 hours

but the factory is running at 100% efficiency!!!

[placid stirrup]

Yeah touching grass may be good for you here

[versed cosmos]

no need, i got coal power

[real shale]

Touching grass implies there is ground without a factory on top of it

[versed cosmos]

also that i would be collecting biomass

maybe for liquid biofuel for the jetpack

[real shale]

The strat is to have a world where biomass doesn't exist

[placid stirrup]

You're already at LBF? How long ago did you start?

[versed cosmos]

i think my current run is about 50 hours

i have nearly 800 hours total and never completed phase 4

[sullen gull]

Pssssffhhh, Helll no. That shiz is ded right now. And too cold. I'll stick with my warm factories tyvm! 😛

[placid stirrup]

Oh word it sounded like you were newer to the game

[tranquil zinc]

omg, floor conveyer is broken again, I hate this

[versed cosmos]

no lol

[tranquil zinc]

I made one change and its all broken again

are there any alternatives to a conveyer lift into a floor hole? I do not want to keep doing tis

[versed cosmos]

remove the floor

[placid stirrup]

I was in the same boat for like two playthroughs and hit a wall in 5 after going nuclear

[versed cosmos]

im hoping this run will be different

ive got a solid plan for my aluminium in the swamp

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=TDuEaNhkv9H2pudbIgZf

[trim sundial]

I just unlocked my dimensional depots, so excited lol. One teeny quick question though, the upgrades, do they effect every depot or do I need to upgrade every single depot one by one?

[real shale]

This game will be my most played on steam when I complete phase 5 at this rate

[versed cosmos]

meant to be self powering because im all the way in the rocky desert lol

[real shale]

They affect every depot

[tranquil zinc]

also do not have jetpack so its exhausting go up and down and up and down diagnosing this thing

[versed cosmos]

ladders

[trim sundial]

THAT is amazing, i wish i had unlocked the dimenson depots way earlier lol

[versed cosmos]

stackable conveyor poles have a ladder on the side

[sullen gull]

It was for me according to Steam recap 😛 #screenshots message

[tranquil zinc]

its first and second floor that I am going up and down

[placid stirrup]

How much bauxite is in the swamp? I feel like you could double that

[versed cosmos]

the oil becomes the limiting factor

[real shale]

Not that much, only two nodes iirc

[versed cosmos]

there's a cluster of 3 and a cluster of 2 bauxite in the swamp

[tranquil zinc]

cause I have a floor hole that SHOULD transfer output to the bottom but sometimes it works sometimes it does not

[placid stirrup]

Ahh yeah there's seemingly none in the swamp that's true

[dense violet]

console?
pc?
dedicated server?

[placid stirrup]

I'm training in oil products to the swamp as well haha

[versed cosmos]

also ive settled on this set up because the numbers are very easy to work with

[sullen gull]

There are five in the swamp, two normal, two impure, and one pure

[tranquil zinc]

pc. It work a few minutes ago, then I made some changes to the conveyer belts and now it does not work

[dense violet]

as in zero parts are being transfered?

what did you change?

[golden nexus]

pay close attention to the arrow when connecting it

[tranquil zinc]

is there a mod that makes this easier? Yes, zero outputs are being transfered down

[tranquil zinc]

yes, I even tried destroying and rebuilding it

[dense violet]

what did you change that made it stop working/

[real shale]

Oh, I apparently do not have the swamp fully discovered via radar on my save huh... Maybe because I don't dare step foot there

[versed cosmos]

tbh in my setup there i could devote a lot more of that oil to coke and do double the bauxite

but the fuel is a really nice way to sink the waste water

[placid stirrup]

In Palpatine voice Do it

[versed cosmos]

god that's gonna be such a big build

[placid stirrup]

Big?

[versed cosmos]

and it's so far from my other stuff i really want a way to get it started without having to bring the rest of my grid over

[tranquil zinc]

#screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

once the fuel generators turn over itll power itself

[placid stirrup]

#streams-and-videos message

[tranquil zinc]

are there any other options where I want to transfer parts vertically but with a floor?

if that makes sense

[sullen gull]

Personally I love just running every bit of bauxite to the Crater lakes and processing it all in blocks of 600. I do it so that all I have to do is turn on a block and boom, another 600 ingots.

[placid stirrup]

I like to make shafts nowadays with a lift waterfall to distribute within the factory

[versed cosmos]

very smart

modular design

[dense violet]

not sure what's changed here sorry, try rebuilding the section again
but honestly you're having way way more issues than other people

[dense violet]

you could jsut clip the lift through the floor hole

[placid stirrup]

@versed cosmos I did the same here

[versed cosmos]

also realising that if i wanted to double the bauxite there i'd also be limited by belts

[sullen gull]

But, Ideally though the setup does require mk6 belts

[versed cosmos]

for that setup there im gonna cash in some of the aluminium parts ive got from crash sites to get the next level of logistics

it needs mk5 belts

[fluid stag]

how does one remove a boulder off a node

[placid stirrup]

As long as the slower belt speed doesn't cause a backup it's easy enough to go back and upgrade them

[sullen gull]

Noblisk or Explosive Rebar

[fluid stag]

can i unlock those in phase 2

[placid stirrup]

Drop an even bigger boulder on top

[golden nexus]

unlock in mam

[tranquil zinc]

omg, now its working. I think I am going crazy

[sullen gull]

You should be able to when you can use oil

[versed cosmos]

technically yes but youll need to steal pipes from crash sites

[fluid stag]

ah yeah im not at oil yet

[tranquil zinc]

w8 no, its not

[fluid stag]

ill just overclock the 1 miner

[zealous urchin]

hello

[golden nexus]

you need pipe not oil

[sullen gull]

Shhhhh Shh.... sh... They're back!

[zealous urchin]

yea

did u make that crater thing

[sullen gull]

Shoot. I typed that out loud... how clumsy of me 🙁

[zealous urchin]

u showed interest? that will de ur downfall!

[sullen gull]

Didn't log in today, and was checking out The Last Caretaker yesterday. But, still a work in progress.

[zealous urchin]

still cool

dedinately cooking smth good

[sullen gull]

You werkin on anything?

[versed cosmos]

just tweaked that aluminium setup in stools and yeah i can't double the bauxite i reach the limit of what oil i can get in the swamp

[zealous urchin]

been fighting with circles
but gave up for a moment

[placid stirrup]

I haven't checked but there might be a well there. I don't think you have that unlocked yet though

[versed cosmos]

oh im using the well lol

[placid stirrup]

Well well well

[versed cosmos]

i CAN increase my setup by 50% though

keeps the numbers pretty nice that way

[sullen gull]

Heh, yeah, Circles in vanilla can be daunting. But once one finds a method they like/understand, it can go alright. Still though, after Curvebuilder, I don't think I can go back 🤣

[placid stirrup]

Does the fuel actually cover the running power of the plant?

[zealous urchin]

curve builder is so good

wanted to try manualy but i think ill go back to curve builder

[versed cosmos]

should do but i havent actually calculated it

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=JZa9wL9gEbzNRxLDTUYV

here's the new setup

getting it started will be a struggle lol

and i desperately hope i build it all right the first time or ill be spending the whole day finding where i fucked up

[placid stirrup]

What is it, 12.5 burn rate for fuel and 250MW production?

[versed cosmos]

20/min for standard fuel

gonna clock the generators up to 200% though

[peak furnace]

HEEEY

do u advice me to buy satisfactory guys

[placid stirrup]

Oh dang yeah you're producing way more than consuming. Great production line.

[versed cosmos]

no

[peak furnace]

why

[versed cosmos]

do you have a family

[peak furnace]

no

[versed cosmos]

oh okay then

[fluid stag]

interesting question to just ask but uh yeah it depends on if you like factory games

[versed cosmos]

yeah get satisfactory its fuckin awesome

[peak furnace]

but i go studies and have a job

[fluid stag]

oh yeah no

[peak furnace]

i never played this type of games

[fluid stag]

dont get this game

[versed cosmos]

okay yeah youll need to reduce your hours at work to play more satisfactory

[placid stirrup]

Are you a technical person with ADHD?

[peak furnace]

lmao

[peak furnace]

no

[tall lantern]

would you like to be?

[peak furnace]

XD

its complicated?

[sullen gull]

How good at basic math are you?

[dense violet]

well it's a game mainly about logistical problem solving. So planning and a bit of maths.

it's only as hard as you make it though. You can keep it very simple

[sullen gull]

👆

[dense violet]

and there are planners you can use

[peak furnace]

hmm idk but im iin studies of logistics in france

[sullen gull]

Oh, well just like doing homework then! 😏

[peak furnace]

and its the reason why im interessted

[dense violet]

you'll probably have fun then 🙂 just treat the milestones like a long tutorial

[sullen gull]

Kidding, a bit. Though, would be interesting to see how someone who studies logistics would handle the game 😛

[peak furnace]

yes im very hype

by this game

[zealous urchin]

math is imaginary

[dense violet]

you're imaginary

[peak furnace]

Maths is necessary in the game?

[zealous urchin]

true, i have tons of imagination

[dense violet]

basic maths. If you want things to run smoothly

[sullen gull]

According to Gottlob Frege, a number is a real tangible thing... soooo how imaginary can it be?! 😛

[sullen gull]

Basics. Addition, subtraction, division, etc

[peak furnace]

Okok

[zealous urchin]

hmmmm, but can he bench as much?

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-whatever-idk-dont-know-fuck-if-i-know-gif-16974639

[versed cosmos]

tweaking the numbers on this aluminium plant a bit is there a ratio of casings to sheets i should be thinking about?

ive heard i need more casings than sheets but not sure how much more

[sullen gull]

You'lll use more casings than sheets

[dense violet]

just make ingots, then as you need make sheets and casings

it'll depend on the recipes you use, alts change things up

for example the alt for Fused Frames uses ingots

[zealous urchin]

sheets are just for belts, casings are for any item from aliminum

[versed cosmos]

alr cool

[zealous urchin]

altho need some alts to make it so

[dense violet]

sheets can also be used for batteries and heat sinks

plus other objects

[versed cosmos]

im doing the heat exchanger alt cause ive already got a polymer resin byproduct to use

[sullen gull]

Heatsinks, Super pos oscillators, batteries, resource wells, NPP, and some more

[versed cosmos]

it uses rubber so that's a good way to do something productive with a byproduct

[dense violet]

oh and superposition oscilators needs sheets too

[zealous urchin]

oh yes u need ton of them

[sullen gull]

Curious.... Anyone ever pull the Sam node from under the Blue Crater? Did ya just go up through the terrain or did ya belt it out of the mouth of the cave and up?

[zealous urchin]

up through terrain

and make a little hut

same for rocky desert cave

[versed cosmos]

rocky desert cave is so big i just put down a power augmenter and power it from inside lol

[sullen gull]

Yeah, been doing something similar the last couple times. Except for that Tendril/Ship project I wanted to do... That one I came out of the cave.

[versed cosmos]

rn just have reanimated sam, quartz crystal and silica going into storage then overflow to sink

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah, for that one I always just build production right in that cave. Quartz Purification goes hard in there 😛

Have also done Pure Quartz/Cheap Silica builds in there as well.

[ocean frost]

If you make a bp of a hyper tube you can just nudge it to get into the terrain and belt it out I add a sign and turn it neon purple for Sam and pink for quarts to make it look like it's coming out of an alien cave or something

[vague osprey]

why does my fps go from 80 to 20 when I look at my 37 water extractors

[ocean frost]

Water extractors are thirsty for performance

[twin helm]

So om about 200 hours in to my save, just about to complete game, but ima start a new, i wanna take what ive learned and do a mega factory, one building, with everything imported, and made in house, where would you guys recommend for such a project?

[sullen gull]

Oh, I know. I mean, I know how to get to the cave entrance as well. I do want to play more with that "trick" for some under map tunnel builds eventually.

[dense violet]

mostly? don't
not if you want it to run efficiently and be neat

[peak furnace]

A new adventure begins! I upload the game

[twin helm]

You got a pic?

[sullen gull]

"mega bases" are a huge source of burnout and can make things seem "less fun" imo.

[sullen gull]

How you know someone who works with PLCs 😛

[tall lantern]

The void. If you're doing an impractical project anyway, may as well go all in 😜

[twin helm]

Oh absolutely, but as it comes together it will be majestic

[peak furnace]

i didnt understand srry i come from france

[sullen gull]

Then, Imo, I would start a new creative save, no power, no fuel, and passive, build an explorer and spend a weekend just driving all over the map. Get out, take in some sights, etc. and find a spot that YOU like.

[twin helm]

True true

[sullen gull]

Ahh heh, no worries. I just always laugh at the insustrial control system world and their seeming backwards use of download and upload.

[sullen gull]

I mean, with a mega base, you're already going to be transporting ore/fluids long distances. So, it really doesn't matter where you start. And, if you don't want "floating" platforms, just plan it out well.

[sullen gull]

BUT, in this, I have no doubt 🙂

[twin helm]

Im much better with logistics and gettin pretty dumb numbers now, but i will say im hoping to spend alot more time making it all look "pretty"

[sullen gull]

Er,, well this isn't completely true, as it could be better closer to the Dune Desert if you want an Iron heavy factory, and probably "better" to clear the Red Forest and build there as it's more centralized if you wanted to go for more of the rest of the ores.

[twin helm]

Based on what ive seen so far, im thinking west/north west, easy access to alot of early game materials

[ocean frost]

Might as well build it in the place you think that looks the best if you are going to invest so much into logistics

[versed cosmos]

rocky desert?

[twin helm]

Yeah i think so, havent explored it too much just chucked a radar tower down and left tbh

[sullen gull]

I look at it like this: Grass Lands= Lots of open terrain, but fewer of more "exoctic" ores within a vicinity. Rocky Desert = Good selection of ore, close to oil, decently open and a few "cool" spots to build (Looking at you three Iron nodes in the circle!). ... Actually, jumed to the wiki to check something in the middle of this, and honestly, the writeup there is pretty much it: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#Starting_areas

[versed cosmos]

getting into late gamr from rocky desert can be tricky

[placid stirrup]

Rocky desert and mini crater lake

[sullen gull]

You've saved the kittens, puppies, and Humanity (I mean, if you must) right?

[twin helm]

I hit phase 5 i just dont have the facilities to complete it with my current set up, i want the end game to also be done and be able to look back at my factory and be.... satisfied....

[placid stirrup]

Satisfied at your factory?

Preposterous.

[twin helm]

What is it with this discord btw, never been in a chat i feel the need to use big words before but i keep catching myself writing them before thinking "i dont talk like that"

[sullen gull]

Heh, I totally get that. If not apposed to using outside resources, I'd utilize SCIM and a planner tool like Modeler or SFtools to plan it out.

[twin helm]

I am but a humble ps peasant

[sullen gull]

So no PC at all?

Tablet? 😛

[twin helm]

Laptop but eh, how hard can it be to do it on the fly, regret it, and hate my life choices

[sullen gull]

Ahh, so you're good then. While you can't upload your save, you can easily see where all the ore is and go from there.

And nothing mentioned requires anything crazy in the sense of computing power 🤷‍♂️

[twin helm]

Got a bunch of towers on my main save so i could stop going back and forward between maps and my game lmao, gonna hop on my old save and scout the area

The only thing i can see rocky desert is missing is nitrogen tbh

[sullen gull]

Nope, resource well, northern most coast

North West

Right on the coast.

[twin helm]

Might be just outside my radar, gonna go chsck it out

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

6 Pure and 1 impure

[versed cosmos]

rocky desert bauxite is also a pain to bring down

[twin helm]

Yeah was just outside the radar i had down

[versed cosmos]

and the sulfur isnt in a great spot

[twin helm]

If i built somewhere along the central river it shouldnt be too bad, one i have trains it wont be an issue tbf,

[sullen gull]

I mean, Bauxite primarily runs through the center of the map. Honestly, Imo, the crater lakes is the perfect spot for aluminum: #screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

oh yeah

[sullen gull]

That build uses way more refineries than would actually be needed if everything was at 250%, But overall it uses a bit less power than the alternative

It just ended up that way due to the Blueprint I had made in a mk3 designer.

[bleak scaffold]

do yall know any pure iron nodes in the sand dunes

[sullen gull]

Kidding yeah?

[bleak scaffold]

cuz i got only 1 pure iron node and i need to find more

[night lotus]

It’s funny you can make modular engines with only iron and a bit of oil

[sullen gull]

There are 12 pure nodes in the Dune Desert area

[bleak scaffold]

also i need help with the coal because when i got water i had to put pumps to the water and then the coal generators had to use so much electricity to the point where i had to make more biomass burners

[sullen gull]

Not sure if it works the same, but on PC, you as soon as you scan for Iron with V, open your map. Then use the tools across the bottom to mark the nodes. Also, it will show you on the map their purity.

[bleak scaffold]

also i need help with the coal power problem

[versed cosmos]

build near your water. it's easier to move the coal to the wated than the water to the coal

[dense violet]

every zone has at least one spot with a large water source and multiple coal nodes next to it - find that 🙂

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

convenient coal set ups 🙂

[bleak scaffold]

8 coal gens is crazy

[twin helm]

Damn i forgot how slow early game was

[bleak scaffold]

what if i only have 2 water nodes

[versed cosmos]

dont use nodes

you cant use them yet

[dense violet]

find a bigger lake

[versed cosmos]

you need a lake or the ocean

[dense violet]

and 8 isn't very much

[bleak scaffold]

8 needs so much rotors

[versed cosmos]

automate rotors first

[dense violet]

better have them automated. You'll probably want to make 24-32 early on

[bleak scaffold]

24 coal generators is crazy

[versed cosmos]

if youre just starting out 16 coal genetators wpuld do you fine

thats what i do, build a big battery block, and just be cateful about how much im using until i get fuel

[sullen gull]

Why not 64? 🤣 #screenshots message

[bleak scaffold]

i found a lake but its very far from the hub

[dense violet]

so? distant power is good power - leaves your closer nodes for items

[sullen gull]

You can always dismantle and rebuild your hub fyi

[dense violet]

also it'll be about 1000m from most places in the grassy fields - not very far at all

[versed cosmos]

also youll use the whole map eventually

[placid stirrup]

My HUB is right on the lake

[versed cosmos]

dont worry about things being far away

[hazy void]

do i record a path for the tractor to load/unload at truck stations?

[sullen gull]

It's amazing to me how many just down-right refuse or don't understand that 😛

[placid stirrup]

Beautiful NYC skyline view, 200sqft, $3,000 a month

[stuck dagger]

Better to get used to expanding sooner rather than later

[dense violet]

pause it in front of the stations to give it time to exchange items

2 stacks per second

[stuck dagger]

I don't have a screenshot but my coal power setup was kinda cursed

[sullen gull]

Or you can always edit the pause later

[placid stirrup]

Oh snap it's Jace, wb!

[stuck dagger]

It was at crater lakes where there already was coal and water but I still brought them elsewhere just so I can see it from my HUB

[placid stirrup]

Which crater lake?

[hazy void]

do trains take liquid fuel?

[leaden turret]

trains are electric

[bleak scaffold]

i live in the dunes

[hazy void]

even better

[sullen gull]

Only one crater lake(s). The other is Blue Crater 😏

[dense violet]

east coast by the ocean then. Still not far

[dense violet]

as mentioned every starting zone has at least 1 spot good for coal power not far

[placid stirrup]

I know, but people use all sorts of terminology for both

[stuck dagger]

The one with the SAM node in the middle

[placid stirrup]

Wait a second

[sullen gull]

Fair. I always just considered "crater lakes" to be the whole plateau.

[stuck dagger]

or rather it was a lake nearby, there are 3 pure coal nodes right next to it

[hazy void]

i just saw a radiation meter at the top of my screen and i took damage( i have not touched any of the nuclear stuff) ive also been there ebfore and there was no radiation

[sullen gull]

There are small bits or ore spread all over tha map.

There are a couple spots where you can "hit it" but not see it because it's in a cave underneath you.

[hazy void]

oh

[sullen gull]

Heh, how many have died the first time trying to get the sloop hidden under the big ore deposit in the Red Forest, before getting the hazmat suit and filters 🤣

[hazy void]

if i delete a storage container and my inventory is full do i loose whats in the container?

[feral jay]

Whatever can't fit will show up in a dismantle crate

[hazy void]

theres not one on the ground

[feral jay]

Should show up in the compass

But that onlky gives you a direction , not whether it's above or below you

I think it mught show up in the map too, I can't recall

[stuck dagger]

Sometimes dismantle crates can bug out and drop themselves in the center of the map

[bleak scaffold]

also can 3 coal generators power everything

[stuck dagger]

"Everything" depends on how many buildings you have

I cleared phase 2 with 16 coal gens iirc

[dim flint]

Yikes I only have 3 nodes of quartz left on the map.

I feel like this is the most constrained material by a lot.

[bleak scaffold]

is every satisfactory world the same or no

[hazy void]

yes

[feral jay]

It's a handcrafted map, not procedurally generated

[lapis dome]

cast screws is way better right?

than iron wires alternate recipe

[feral jay]

It's situational, but yea I usually take cast screws if it's offered

[ocean frost]

Cast screws make making screws easier,

Iron wire lets you make wire from iron

[feral jay]

Thereby eliminating the need for copper from quite a few builds

[deft belfry]

theres alternates that remove screws from reinforced iron plate, modular frames, heavy frames, and rotors

[young rivet]

W alt recipes

[lapis dome]

if i deconsturct the hub do i need to make all the progress of the hub housee again?

[stuck dagger]

Nope

Same with the space elevator

[feral jay]

But, you die, and are reincarnated as a bean

[placid stirrup]

Gent or lady bean?

[sullen gull]

Yes

[stray summit]

i cast POWAHHHHH #screenshots

[worn wraith]

Anyone got the link for WhatDarrenPlays discord, as the one on his YouTube is invalid, if so please DM it to me

[lapis dome]

are there any specific parts notorius for sucking up tps?

[feral jay]

I have no idea what you said there

[lapis dome]

sometimes automation games have like, buildings that are notorios for being rather expensive operation and can be resource intensive on your computer if spammed

[feral jay]

ohhh

Not really, but the game's rendering can slow down when there's a lot of things zipping around on conveyors

If you enclose your factories with opaque walls so nothing on the conveyor belts inside needs to be rendered it can help with that

[lapis dome]

ok ill be mindful of it

[nova ridge]

is the Y junction for super tubes seomtimes bugged?i tried pressing e many times and it wouldnt work

[ocean frost]

Most of the better recipes in the game don't use screws

[feral jay]

THere's 2 kinds of junctions, "hyertube junction" and "hybertube branch". A branch can only be switched from one direction

Maybe that's it?

[nova ridge]

it was the Y . of the 3 directions only from 1 direction could i switch it? weird

i kept pressing e but it wouldnt

hypertrube junction

[feral jay]

Yeah that sounds more like a branch, they can only be switched when approaching from one of the dreictions

[nova ridge]

illt ry rebuilding it

[rose steppe]

swag

[vagrant mantle]

How do i get around the map faster

[feral jay]

By researching and then building better transportation networks

[leaden turret]

🏃‍♀️

[feral jay]

Plus, the jetpack and blade runners help a lot

[young rivet]

Hyper tubes are easily the best for long term transportation between point a & point b. Use a tractor for early game exploration

[dense violet]

exploration gear
blade runners, parachute, zip line

[young rivet]

Also, sprinting + bunny hopping gives movement boost

[dense violet]

sprint - slide - jumping does also help yes

[young rivet]

Yes that’s what I meant lma

[young rivet]

Tbh I’ve never used the zip line

[dense violet]

build a power pole on a ledge somewhere and near you, boom, instant bridge

[feral jay]

I do sometimes, I have my power lines built so I can if I want to

[young rivet]

Is it better than a hyper tube

[bleak scaffold]

holdup

[dense violet]

very different use cases, Tubes are infrastructure you build to places you'll probably be going around back and forth

zip lines are better for exploration

[feral jay]

It's more for exploring, if you place a power line on a ledge you can't jump to, you can then zipline instead

[bleak scaffold]

i only have 2 coal nodes

and i need to build 8 coal generators

[dense violet]

research overclocking

[young rivet]

I see, pretty neat thank you

[dense violet]

no prob 🙂

[bleak scaffold]

ok im just waiting for the server to open

or ill just make a singleplayer one

[lapis dome]

these trees are fucking cursed man

[feral jay]

oops, I died

Spider army

And then it autosaved while I was dead...

[young rivet]

Then research duping power shards 😂

N sommersloops

Lowkey I did that cause I do not have the time to explore

[lapis dome]

love deforesting

[feral jay]

You are evil

[lapis dome]

say what you wish now, but with this pink chainsaw, that biomass is mine now

[feral jay]

Hey why is it snowing inside caves?

[severe oriole]

dont question it

[ocean frost]

That's asbestos

[leaden turret]

if spiders have hairy legs, does that mean they get leg dandruff?

[feral jay]

Kittens and puppies get dandruff, so yeah that would make sense

[lapis dome]

cant believe we get ada embarassing tapes for ficmas

[sudden flint]

what's the maximum ratio of jank-looking:non-jank-looking stuff you guys will allow in your worlds?

[teal geyser]

Yes

[sudden flint]

Error at line 1: expected string, got boolean

[lapis dome]

whats the point of area and single if they all consume 1 solid biofuel?

[sullen gull]

per minute dur.. nm

[feral jay]

Single allows you to cut down one tree at a time, rather than a blast radius, which is nice when you don't want do deforest the landscape

[lapis dome]

lemme rephrase, whats the point of area mode vs single mode in the chainsaw if they all consume 1 solid fuel per use anyway?

[feral jay]

Single allows you to cut down one tree at a time, rather than a blast radius, which is nice when you don't want do deforest the landscape

[sullen gull]

Yeah/no, I re-read after ca's reply lol. Go with his, it's better 😛

[feral jay]

Area mode is just faster if you do need to deforest a large area

Or quickly gather biofuel ingredients

[obtuse pine]

can anyone suggest some good places to start a starter factory to progress through phase 1 in the rocky desert?

[lapis dome]

OH IF I HCANGE A SWATTCH ALL THE MAP UPDATES YES

OMG THIS IS THE BEST KIND OF QOL FEATURE

[runic path]

just finished onboarding for the first time when do i get a different generator besides this biomass one im so tired of collecting leaves and wood

[obtuse pine]

you unlock coal power after phase 1

which is in the space elevator

[runic path]

thank you so much

[obtuse pine]

np

i hate biomass power too

[runic path]

ive got maybe an hour or 2 in and i hate it

im thinking of restarting and choosing a different spawn location tho

[obtuse pine]

are you in grass fields?

[runic path]

yeah but im only near 3 iron 2 copper and 3 limestone

no coal

[obtuse pine]

oh

i usaully like the rocky desert since there is a spot near the edge of the biome where there is 6 normal iron nodes, 2 normal copper nodes, and 2 normal limestone nodes

[runic path]

yeah my nodes are impure too (ive tossed on some youtube videos in the background to learn)

[sullen gull]

Couple "tips" are that you can Hold E after crabbing the first leaves or wood and run around and it will auto grab. Also, bit more of a bug, but if you do that and then open your inventory (TAB on PC) and then close it, It will autograb leaves and wood until you're full or you open the tab menu again. Lastly, the Chainsaw makes things go quicker as well.

[rustic scroll]

is anyone able to help with trying to figure out how to get a blueprint file to work please ?

[sullen gull]

Have you placed a designer, made a blueprint, and then saved it in your save yet?

[rustic scroll]

yes

[sullen gull]

Does it just not work as in built wrong? or Are you trying to download one and it's not showing up?

[rustic scroll]

its not showing up i have the files ive put them in the blueprint file folder but they just are not showing up

[sullen gull]

And you reloaded the game yes? Blueprints are loaded on load. Unlike saves, which can be loaded immediately with the game still running..

[rustic scroll]

yes i restarted the game and no they arent showing in the load file

they are imkibitz files

[sullen gull]

And, what was the folder you but them in? Lastly, what are the file extenions? is it a blueprint, or megaprint?

The one you made in the designer and saved is showing up though in the blueprint build menu?

[rustic scroll]

can i call you quickly ? it will be easy to show then type this all out

[rustic scroll]

yes

[sullen gull]

Erm ... sure.

[placid comet]

I'm legit tempted to make an oil rig structure for a processing facility but I have no idea how to make it look authentic

[neon kraken]

question about gas liquids what is the best way to make sure a loop back loop works 100% of the time no matter what u do and ik how they work most of the time but then it comes to a gas ik they got diff rules - 5.3k hours and playing SF+

[sullen gull]

Like this? #screenshots message

[placid comet]

Something like that but larger and no machines are actually visible. That's more what I have in mind

[sullen gull]

Gotcha. 🤷‍♂️ My advice would be to start a creative save and mess about.

[feral jay]

Work from a picture of something IRL

[placid comet]

I forget creative exists. I guess I could use to figure out designs

[sullen gull]

And if you're on PC, you can then copy your creation to another save with SCIM 🙂

Ok, need to take my happy ass to bed or I'll never sleep

[leaden turret]

why your donkey sleep in bed and not in stable?

[sullen gull]

Donchu worry bout what I do when I do what I do!

nabs the saddle and runs off

[lapis dome]

can you go into third person?

[leaden turret]

marv can go into the third person if marv wishes

there's no 3rd person view toggle, no

[lapis dome]

well guess ill have to suffer till iget jetpack

[dense violet]

jet pack doesn't give you 3rd person either? what do you need?

[lapis dome]

it was to be able to see where im putting stuff without being right in front of me always, it obstructs vision and i have to lock it all the time to make sure its aligned right, i just need a wider vision range, and my fov is alredy at max sooo..

[dense violet]

jet pack isn't great for that, as you don't hover. Build something you can stand on.

maybe photomode would help?

later on you unlock equipment that makes that easy though

[lapis dome]

WAIT JETPACK DOESNT HAVE HOVER? ah :(

[ocean frost]

you need the hover pack for that

[real shale]

Hoverpack my beloved

[ocean frost]

what is the is the issue that you are having

[lapis dome]

.

[dense pebble]

after 20 hours in my first solo playthrough i have finally automated the production of phase 2 items

[cunning glade]

Almost done with my hmf and then I get too sit back and watch it all start too work which is like the best part

Tempted too sloop temporally

100 hmf a min gotta be worth a decent amount of points

[ocean frost]

do it

[cunning glade]

I may if I have the uhh sloops

Tho quick question I have 780 belts rn and some of them need like an odd amount I can just manifold that right aslong as it doesn't go over the capacity of the belt

I feel like yes but idk for some reason

Idk it'll prolly work out just rn is confusing

[jaunty jewel]

wdym by odd amount

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=siTCzjo4jtRyImqWtoB8

[jaunty jewel]

which parts are "odd"

[cunning glade]

The ones that aren't like even numbers

[jaunty jewel]

oh you mean literally odd

[cunning glade]

Like have decimal amounts

[jaunty jewel]

yeah thats fine as long as it isnt like 780.333

you can have like 333.333 and 333.333

[cunning glade]

Okay making sure idk I think I'm fine but I'm second guessing things

[jaunty jewel]

for the iron plates

[cunning glade]

I did the machines last night and was supposed too do this too I didn't I smoked and made food

[jaunty jewel]

if not just make a tiny bit extra to be safe

[cunning glade]

So I'm just hooking all the belts up and stuff

True fact I can also just limit belt speeds

Like use mk1 instead of mk5

Well more like mk3

[jaunty jewel]

yeah thats one way to do it

[coral marsh]

@molten minnow if you mean glowing blue as in the light pole, that means its overclocked

[molten minnow]

huh, interesting

[coral marsh]

Yellow for standby, red for no power or power but no recipe selected, green for non overclocked but working, blue for OC

[jaunty jewel]

green also for underclock

[bleak scaffold]

yo who wants to join my satisfactory game

[coral marsh]

Ah yes that too

[bleak scaffold]

i wanna do multiplayer

[jaunty jewel]

#1201555265942724758

[lapis dome]

god i relly did play the entiere day, its been a few months since a game made me do that, thought last time was silksong, definely worth the purchase

goodnight y'all, ill come back tomorrow likely with more qeustions

[dense pebble]

is there a way to have walls and doors built in a certain colour instead of having to recolour them all from defult

[icy sluice]

I haven't showered since last year

[dense pebble]

for an aussie thats disburbing considering its only 5pm on december 31st

[cunning glade]

Real the game being like u should eat me who keeps playing and doesn't eat

[lapis dome]

commas are important mate

[coral marsh]

As a kiwi, same here

[teal geyser]

Must have been pretty crazy to be alive before January 1st, 2000

You could say "See you next century!" or "See you next millennia!"

[brazen coral]

Just unlocked the portals... Now I gotta make singularity cells xD

Wasn't aware the portals actually needed anything to function besides power

[teal crater]

Question : what are snowballs used for? I tried looking it up and found a post basically explaining that they were holiday Nobelisks but I can’t equip them

[molten minnow]

you equip them the same way you equip other explosives, holding R and selecting it i believe?

[hasty stump]

you can switch the ammo for the detonator while it's equipped

[teal crater]

Ah okay

Yeah I’m a bit clueless

[jagged nymph]

i just noticed something that honestly ruins this game

when you have a longer or shorter conveyer, it just stretches the texture on top

make a minimum short belt and a maximum long belt and look at the top texture

[granite jackal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PjuYWPWpd0E?si=UFWkx5AZKBRYE2vS

[stray summit]

guys what tf was it tryna make #screenshots

[jagged nymph]

holy shit thats alot

[stray summit]

was it trying to make a pipe halfway across the damn universe??? 😭

[proper fog]

greetings

[hasty stump]

your microbreak is over, time to get back to work

[proper fog]

yes master!

[cunning glade]

I'm so fricking close to being done with this damn fucking factory

Doing all the belts is driving me insane

Most tedious thing ever

[hasty stump]

same, just got done quadrupling my steel beam/pipe production and most of the work was belts, really gotta make more use of blueprints to make it less tedious

[granite dome]

Where do I look for mods

[cunning glade]

Made a little over 2k steel at the start and am chilling

Making 50 hmf a min rn but holy

The belts kill me

And I wanna make 30 nuclear pasta a min

[hasty stump]

oh man, i'm getting ready to do hmf and i'm only planning 10 to start with, am i gonna regret that?

[cunning glade]

Nah

First one I had 6 machines at 100% making like 16

And that was really easy

[cunning glade]

Just have all the alts u can

[hasty stump]

i don't have any HMF recipes, just some basic helper recipes like encased pipe

which is better than nothing, i guess - i'll probably rebuild it later anyway if i need more HMFs and by then i should have more hard drives

[real shale]

Hello chat

[zealous urchin]

🫸

[cunning glade]

For reference I'm using 0 screws with this hmf factory

[zealous urchin]

🫸 🫷

[hasty stump]

jealous! i got unlucky and had to choose between encased industrial pipes or stitched iron plates for one hard drive

[real shale]

Compose the scriptures and write a blood song

[hasty stump]

at least i have cast screws

[cunning glade]

Chat without spoiling things where does one find the other 2 tapes

[real shale]

One is nearby the coal spot everyone goes to when they spawn in grassy fields

[cunning glade]

I got the desert one ig ik where the grass fields or plains one is well it's in a cave ok that

[proper fog]

can i put on my resume that im an engineer now

[cunning glade]

What about the last one

[real shale]

That I do not know, I haven't found it yet

[hasty stump]

how inappropriate, tell me more

[zealous urchin]

to chant in their rythyms echoing throuhhout the verse's net

[real shale]

When will you learn?

[cunning glade]

Ight

[real shale]

Consume.

[hasty stump]

and an architect

[zealous urchin]

always, never

[real shale]

You know there's someone I saw on YouTube that actually answers interview questions or something that are entirely derived from video game skills without explicitly stating its from a video game and I think it'd be hilarious to see them do satisfactory

[queen dome]

Yo do pc players need an epic acc for online?

[atomic shadow]

I’m new anyone want to start a world and run me through how this shit works

[dense violet]

if you're actively wanting to learn I'd suggest going on your own through the tutorial

if you mostly just want ot play with others try #1201555265942724758

[queen dome]

Do pc players need an epic for online

[vague burrow]

I play on Steam, so no.

[granite jackal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vNzWuNVRkUM?si=Lalb1_eU7JF0mZVw

[coral marsh]

btw, anyone want my coke steel pipe blueprint?

[vagrant mantle]

When can i craft a gun

[burnt heath]

Equipment workshop

[vagrant mantle]

When do i unlock

[sterile blade]

Did you take us for a snorting server?!

[coral marsh]

funny, but not what i meant by far and you know it

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I thought the sarcasm was obvious enough not to warrant a disclaimer ^^

[burnt heath]

Do you mean the rebar gun or the rifle

[vagrant mantle]

Either or i just wanna shoot these cats

[coral marsh]

oh it is, dw, i just saw it coming from a mile away and wasn't gonna laugh over it, no offense

[sterile blade]

Fair. Low hanging one :P

[burnt heath]

I think it's on the alien mam tech tree near the end

[coral marsh]

but being fr, you want it?

[vagrant mantle]

Bet

[coral marsh]

it's either quartz or sulfur, one of the tree options

[vagrant mantle]

Anyone know where i can find sulfur ore on the plains map

[sterile blade]

Nope, sorry, I just prefer making my own ^^
I actually never downloaded a blueprint, now that I think about it

BTW, #design-and-architecture might be better to advertise that, possibly adding one or more pictures to show the blueprint off too ^^

[vagrant mantle]

Sulfur is used to make gun powder so most likely

[coral marsh]

fair and thanks

[sterile blade]

Also, FYI, there are online repositories for blueprints

[burnt heath]

Yeah just looked it up the rifle is in the sulphur tree

[sly sentinel]

[burnt heath]

Use SCIM or satisfactory calculator it has a map with all the ore

[sterile blade]

They are the same thing

[burnt heath]

Yeah that's what I was trying to say

[sterile blade]

Ahah, sorry, I misinterpreted that

[twin helm]

Anyone wanna check out my first asthetic design on the des and arc channel

[rugged shard]

What is the best ammo for rebar gun?

[fading whale]

Depends on what you want to shoot at.
I mostly use explosive. Good damage, but less spread than a nobelisk.

[gloomy tusk]

#1455873009914220588

Please help

[fading whale]

Better to ask than get frustrated over simple solutions 🙂

[queen slate]

Fr

[fading whale]

Just about 12 hours till next year. Anyone closer?

[gloomy tusk]

Me

In Australia it is 2 hours 7 minutes away

It’s 9:53pm currently

*9:54

[fading whale]

Nice. Hope it's not too hot there 😄

[gloomy tusk]

Nah right now it’s raining sadly

[fading whale]

Currently sunny here. With a bit of luck, it'll stay clear for once.

[gloomy tusk]

Nice

Could I have your honest unbiased opinion on something

Like brutally honest

[stoic laurel]

can you fine rotate something like a biomass burner?

[gloomy tusk]

In satisfactory I have a steel factory, copper factory and multiple iron ones and is 3 industrial storage ubits of rotors good?

[coral marsh]

Happy new year from NZ guy's

[coral marsh]

You're going to need a lot more in the future

[gloomy tusk]

Stinky New Zealanders

[coral marsh]

Satan's playground livers

[echo mulch]

im prob missing something really basic here but how do i change/switch ammo types on the weapons again

[coral marsh]

Press and hold R

[gloomy tusk]

Haven’t even unlocked weapons that use ammo yet XD

[coral marsh]

Get to it then lol

[gloomy tusk]

I’m playing right now

[coral marsh]

Get to it then

[coral marsh]

Just noticed, Jinwoo Sung pfp. Legendary choice

[gloomy tusk]

I like the anime and have read the manwa and think it’s my favourite Korean anime

[echo mulch]

ahhhh i though soo, its seems really slow to show menu

[gloomy tusk]

Not favourite anime but definitely fav Korean manwa/animated series

[fading whale]

Have everyone produced enough Ficsit fireworks for New Year ?

[gloomy tusk]

Not at all

[echo mulch]

What steel ingot recipe should i use, ( using the base one atm) but im thinking switch to the Carbon recipe or maybe to the Coke recipe

[golden nexus]

Solid steel is quite good

[gloomy tusk]

I get to stay up tonight for new years

[zealous urchin]

solid steel most likely

[unkempt blade]

coke steel is the best steel

did you all know there's a sliver of the world where it's already 2026 so the year of the cart has officially begun?

[bleak quiver]

Hello

Where can I find anyone spanish to play with?

[unkempt blade]

I'd try #1201555265942724758 and mention spanish is desired

[bleak quiver]

Alright, didnt checked them

[molten cove]

how do i actually build blueprints? the base platform is way to small

[golden nexus]

you can build them in 2 parts

[dense violet]

build them in sections?

[molten cove]

man

[zealous urchin]

am i a joke to you

[molten cove]

can i transfer them between saves atleast?

[bleak quiver]

Ah?

[zealous urchin]

ok i see u too confused

[bleak quiver]

Your display name?

[queen slate]

What does mago mean?

I’m dumb

[zealous urchin]

happy new year everyone

[queen slate]

Hny

[queen slate]

Does your name mean Santa’s magic cat?

[molten cove]

can i transfer blueprints between saves?

[golden nexus]

yes, they are saved as files seperatly to the savefile

whats also cool is if you join a multiplayer server you get a copy of everything thats on the server

[queen slate]

That is cool

[molten cove]

should i use normal recepie or cast screws?

[golden nexus]

cast probably

[molten cove]

im thinking of going for normal

only because i have everything thought out there

[golden nexus]

Thing about cast screws, if you undeclock the constructor to 40/min they use 10/min ingots. Which is the same as a normal output but better in terms of ingots compared to rods.... by 5/min. So overall they are easier to use

but you have half the constructors to deal with

[molten cove]

so to get the same effect i need to underclock the constructors?

[golden nexus]

Yeah very slightly

[molten cove]

thank god i sommersloped my snails

[golden nexus]

You don't need shard for underclock

[molten cove]

oh

[golden nexus]

only for overclock

[versed cosmos]

yall help me understand something cause i think the people on reddit are messing with me. if you add twice as many biomass burners, keeping the same power consumption, it doesnt make your biofuel last longer right?

[queen slate]

Underclocking is something I wished I started using earlier

[dense violet]

ofc it does

[dense violet]

well it makes the fuel burn slower

[versed cosmos]

cause youre halving the burn rate PER MACHINE but running twice as many so it cancels out

[dense violet]

but more fuel will be burning also

[versed cosmos]

yeah

[golden nexus]

It give the illustion of more power, but there is a hidden thing... whic his sustainable power, if you use a ocnstrucxotr making solid bio fuel, you get 15 burners, no more....

[dense violet]

that was more important when you couldn't belt feed them

[molten cove]

god i hate diffrent kind of belts

[versed cosmos]

bro i keep uploading my save to the interactive map and ive got a mk1 belt still hanging around somewhere and i cannot find it

[queen slate]

Which ones don’t you like buckle asteroid m1/2

[versed cosmos]

everything runs fine so it ultimately doesnt matter but it still bothers me lol

[molten cove]

the annoying part is

that i cannot just use the best possible belt everywhere

[dense violet]

sure you can. Nothing stops you

[molten cove]

wont that ruin efficiency?

[golden nexus]

@versed cosmos What people do is burners only consume when required. So people can built like 30 burners, think they have the capacity, they will then all fill up but the actual sustinable production rate is still 15 burners worth when they run out of bio fuel. Doe sthat make sense?

[dense violet]

no?

[versed cosmos]

yeah

[queen slate]

You don’t have to have every belt full

[golden nexus]

Only slower effects efficiency

[queen slate]

For max efficiency

[versed cosmos]

belts full is actually a bad sign

[south sinew]

the worst that can happen with using best belt everywhere is that you spent more resources than you technically needed to building the belts

[versed cosmos]

if theyre full youre not consuming enough

[south sinew]

but this is pretty minimal honestly and the effort of figuring out the right belt speed every time is just not worth it

[golden nexus]

It can be harder to debug

Its hard to see 2/min on a 1200/min belt 😛

[dense violet]

first off define 'efficiency' in this case becaues people just throw that word around with out any real meaning

you can have machines have 100% up time and use the fastest belts everywhere

[versed cosmos]

machines only consume as much as is stated in the recipe

[south sinew]

that's what the belt speed monitor is for ;p but also you can just check the consumer and see if they are gettingenough

[versed cosmos]

i can plug a mk3 belt into a constructor making iron plates itll still only consume 30 ingots/min

[queen slate]

Ik im saying you don’t have to have your belts full for maximum efficiency

[golden nexus]

You know what i mean though on mk6 belts its doing mach jesus

[south sinew]

actually no, I don#t know what you mean

[molten cove]

ohhh

[south sinew]

debugging by visually looking at the belt was never a good idea

[molten cove]

i thought you need to have a continous flow

[south sinew]

so not doing this for a 2/min flow on a mk6 belt is no problem

[molten cove]

so like constantly going line

[golden nexus]

its fine i if the flow backlogs, but yeah @south sinew is correct. Look at the machine efficency %

[versed cosmos]

as long as the machines are getting what they need its fine

[queen slate]

Your belt will only not be running continuously if you can’t use more then you are making eg if your miner is making 120/m iron ore but it is only going into 3 smelters that use 90/m then your belt will not be always running

That prob is a bad way of explaining it but I’m bad at explaining stuff

[golden nexus]

you can do other things to test it, like use a smart splitter upstream which is set to overflow and attach that to a container, if your not using all the items, they will show up there

[queen slate]

When ye are using your hoverpack do ye build power poles as ye build your factories?

And do some power poles have a bigger range like do m3s have a bigger range than m1s

[dense violet]

nope, got nothing to do with it 🙂

[zealous urchin]

yes

and he is the strongest wizzard of all time

[grizzled lotus]

someone help me. I just put up my first aluminum ingot production outlet, and I don't know what to do with the excesss water. with other materials I just use a smart splitter and send it to the awesome sink, but with fluids that's not possible. any ideas? oil isn't nearby to package the water

[golden nexus]

Loop with priority merger

[grizzled lotus]

I've never used priority merger because I didn't understand what it does

[queen slate]

I made some wet concrete

[grizzled lotus]

huh, that's actually a good idea

though I don't have the recipe.

[golden nexus]

You stack 2 junctions on top of each other and the bottom feed has prioty over the top feed

[grizzled lotus]

I do have another recipe which is actually pretty good. iron plate and copper sheet into empty canister. it's not near, but I can make a factory for that and have a tractor bring it

[queen slate]

Good idea

[golden nexus]

But there is 3 ways to deal with it.

1. Loop with priority
2. Consume it elsewhere
3. Make so much aliminimum that the overflow from the first 2 plants provides water in the 3rd iirc

@grizzled lotus This is the low effort approach #screenshots message The water extractor go far right, the loop to 2nd from the right

[queen slate]

Is there enough hard drives for all the alt recipes

[golden nexus]

more drives than recipies

[queen slate]

Rly?

[golden nexus]

yeah in case they added more recipie they don't need to change the map

[queen slate]

I need a rifle and go look for some I’m all out

[golden nexus]

You need all the sloops / spheres as well

[queen slate]

True

I should probably get fuel for my jet pack if I’m gonna get them

Or use lots of ladders I love ladders 😄

[golden nexus]

biofuel if you have it

and hypertube

[snow ginkgo]

Its 5 minutes till new years and i've been playing this for 7 hours, do i have a problem?

[prime jasper]

I got the nice surprise of realising my mk5 belt couldn't handle the 900/min aluminium scrap throughout of my refineries.😑

I guess I'll have to get to wait for Mk6 before being able to plainly benefit from it.

[molten cove]

i think im done with my blueprints

[prime jasper]

Where do you live to have new years in 5min?

[snow ginkgo]

australia

[dense violet]

it was new years 25 minutes ago 😛

you guys are just slow

[snow ginkgo]

meanie pants

[prime jasper]

New year is in 9 and a half for me lol.

That's real slowness.

[eager palm]

What’s 2026 like?

[dense violet]

... pretty much just more of 2025 so far

[eager palm]

Cries in American

At least we have Factory Game

[grand pendant]

in dubai its 5:30 pm 12/31/2025

cant wait for the year of gta 6

[candid ember]

Guys what's the best fuel for drones? The one u recommend the most

[dense violet]

either

a) plutonium rods

or

b) whatever fuel you are already making

[candid ember]

Take into account that I haven't unlocked nuclear yet, I'm tier 8

[dense violet]

it doesn't really matter that much

[candid ember]

Rocket fuel last long?

[dense violet]

eh, uses bauxite. And if you can do blenders yo ucan do nuclear

[golden nexus]

It depends. The best thing you can actually do is use temp drone ports and switch them for trains

[dense violet]

basically tripping over the tech

[golden nexus]

It also depends what you transport and how far and what options you havew

[candid ember]

Basically in making Cooling Syatem with blenders, which needs water and nitrogen gas, but since I'm producing only 1 per minute the output needed is not that much so I'm considering to bring water and nitrogen gas by drone (which is damn far away)

[rich sandal]

Hi new hereOne of the initial goals is to build the space elevator. How do I make 1,500 wires? Do I have to do them by hand because I have a drill that drills copper and then makes copper wires, but it takes a long time. How do I do it?

[golden nexus]

Yeah pack the nitrogen and anything works

[candid ember]

Ty!

[golden nexus]

You get massive compression on it... the water not so much

[dense violet]

I'd just plan the new factory next to water and drone in the gas.

location is key when planning factories

[candid ember]

With the water I can deal in different ways, but I'm glad that nitrogen can be handy

[dense violet]

use constructors 🙂

[rich sandal]

I am using 1 costractor

[candid ember]

Build more

[dense violet]

yeah can always make more 😉

[rich sandal]

you advise me to use another one not connected to anything

[dense violet]

connect it to more ingots being made?

[rich sandal]

i cant i only have 1 source

[dense violet]

... go find more

that's a key part of the game

[rich sandal]

300 meters from where I am

[candid ember]

Also, I think that the node has enough to produce more, what purity has the node?

[dense violet]

so barely any distance is what you're saying

[candid ember]

300 is not far away

[dense violet]

yeah check the miner, how many ore pm can it output?

[candid ember]

Imagine if he's sitting on a pure node lmao 😂😂

[rich sandal]

I still have to unlock that thing that divides the transporters

[dense violet]

ah so very early. Well you don't have to build the space elevator until you're ready for phase 2, so you're good

[rich sandal]

O thx man

Didn t understond that

[candid ember]

I have many different ways for bring up the water to my 18th floor, I have water right below the cliff, should I use a truck that brings it up by conveyor lift or should use a drone settled near to the water?

[dense violet]

if it's just below why not just pump it up?

[candid ember]

Because I'm at 500 meters high

[dense violet]

ugh sky factories. pump it anyway

[candid ember]

I don't know if it's a sky factory, I've started to build each floor where there is an output, and so go on, I made like 15 floors

Im developing vertically

U think I should go for pump anyway?

[dense violet]

yeah just pump it, simpler

[ornate saffron]

Well despite me telling myself ill wait til 1.2 for me next playthrough I started anew last night lol. Decided to start from the beginning in the grassy plains. I haven't started in the grass since update seven. I'm excited

[potent ledge]

fuel generator is a lot better than coal?

[candid ember]

U did the right thing, wasn't worth it waiting for 1.2 there ain't be so many news, despite 1.3 which developers say that are making important news

[ornate saffron]

I think so. Certainly has more options and complexity

[candid ember]

Let's put in in this way, fuel generator is broken, u can easily scale to very high energy

[ornate saffron]

The real problem is that i find this game all consuming and I finished my last paythrough dec 2nd lol

[candid ember]

With rocket fuel u can literally avoid making nuclear energy

[dense violet]

and build endless fields of generators isntead of a a few.. what a great trade

One of the dumbest things added in 1.0

[candid ember]

Yes, I settled up 70 gigawatts

Rocket fuel is honestly too broken

[dense violet]

it's boring and bland. People thinks its easier has it has fewer but larger steps

[ornate saffron]

Nitro rocket fuel specificly

Im avoiding rocket fuel this playthrough.

[candid ember]

If u can handle the turbo blend fuel alternate recipe for make rocket fuel, u can make much more power

But it's more complex, I honesty chose nitro rocket fuel

[ornate saffron]

Im aware. I just always build rocket fuel which keeps me away from nuclear as it is unnecessary. Swimming force it this time

[candid ember]

Same, so u've never touched nuclear energy stuf?

[candid ember]

Nitro is the best if u can bear with sulfur

[candid ember]

Hey sorry, what did u mean with massive compression? You meant that u can stack more than 100 items?

[molten cove]

time to tear down my factory and build it from scratch (like 3 other factories will shut down because of this

nvm i forgot to shut off the miner

[golden nexus]

No look at ratio of nitrogen when it goes into the tank

[molten cove]

so i gotta wait for the materials to get out of the rotation

[ornate saffron]

You could just leave it if it is functional and build new stuff elsewhere

[molten cove]

having to rp farms in two diffrent locations would be confusing

and im outta nodes near me

[upper gale]

Everyone that I've been playing with in the lfg channel has been tearing down their starter factory and then struggling to rebuild it better, I hate it. Truly just leave it there and add more production elsewhere like stated above

[potent ledge]

why my fluid buffer doenst auto flush?

[leaden turret]

is fluid buffer, not urinal

[molten cove]

i need to tear it down to build on top of it?

[leaden turret]

stick it in a box

[molten cove]

i want to utilize the node

[tall lantern]

you could build literally on top of it... build a foundation over the top

[molten cove]

and its not possible cuz i got lazy building the starter one

so you cant expand it

its overrally a spaghetti

[tall lantern]

expanding existing factories is overrated, just build more

[molten cove]

like i said before

im out of nodes near me

[clear tartan]

is it possible to fully automate solid biofuel

[tall lantern]

just build more
it's a big map, and you'll have to expand anyway

[golden nexus]

Everything except the collection of it

[clear tartan]

ah

[molten cove]

and im not at the stage to be hauling stuff from node over km away

cuz thats the nearest pure node near me

[tall lantern]

that's fine, you will be soon enough

phase 2 ain't that far

[golden nexus]

why does it have to be pure?

[molten cove]

i completed smart plating

[golden nexus]

In phase 1 or 2?

[molten cove]

cuz its designed to be made bigger

[molten cove]

2

[tall lantern]

nice, then you are at the stage where you can comfortably enough expand beyond your immediate surrounds

[molten cove]

well by completed i mean im watching last 2 plates roll at the belt next to me

[upper gale]

There's a reason you never really need to tear down anything: if you built it to the capacity of what you could do at the time, it's good for that time. Now let's say you unlock better belts and miner mk2. You can upgrade the node's miner, then just split the ores right there, to where you're still using it to capacity, but some of the ores are still going to your old factory. The old factory will still be at 100% and your new one will utilize the rest

[tall lantern]

also note that you don't have to ship everything to one place, it's perfectly valid to leave stuff at each factory. More so with Depots unlocked, but even before that, you can get between factories easily enough. Zipline's a great early-game tool

(still great later on too, but you gain access to other rapid transportation too that's generally faster or more automatic)

[ornate saffron]

You could just leave it if it is functional and build new stuff elsewhere

[molten cove]

but why keep an unoptimized space wasting factory when i can build new onee

[unkempt blade]

are you actually going to run out of space? (the map is really really big)

[upper gale]

Another trend I've been seeing as I'm playing in lfg: people tend to build huge factories before they even hit coal power and run into lots of power issues. And on top of that, they're not even automating the basic resources and skipping to automating more complex resources. Causing a shortage in the basic resources for everyone

[golden nexus]

You have silly amounts of space, Like look at it from this perspective, also note how spread out i am #screenshots message

[clear tartan]

so is auto pilot on tractors more for truck stations

[unkempt blade]

yes it's for recorded routes (mostly truck stations as far as functional use)

[clear tartan]

would of been nice if players could of been on the tractor while autopilot was on

[unkempt blade]

yeah it could be a nice train/tube alternative if they allowed that