satisfactory

[golden nexus]

you can no of course deconstruct hd sites for parts to make things quickly on start

[versed cosmos]

even better let me make it out of 4 wood

[glass pagoda]

The doggo police is on its way to make ur factory into spaghetti

[undone citrus]

I don't

Unless I'm involuntarily nukes for beating someones score on the packaging game

We're competitive with it lmao

[latent meadow]

be nice to have a drop option on menu to make it easyer to drop items

[glass pagoda]

Then we will turn your bones into spaghetti unless you dont hurt doggos

[undone citrus]

It's pretty easy to drop items on Xbox

[latent meadow]

well i tried and sometimes they dont drop

[undone citrus]

Just hover, left trigger and press X

[latent meadow]

i dont use controller i use keyboard and mouse

i dont like controller for this game

[undone citrus]

I'm saying for me it's easy

[glass pagoda]

Check again

[undone citrus]

Controller feels way easier for me

[glass pagoda]

🍝🍝🍝

[undone citrus]

I like it a lot

Once you learn the buttons you can build fast AF and it's pretty easy to avoid fat fingering

[glass pagoda]

Woah woah woah there buddy calm down

[undone citrus]

There's some games I can only play on controller

[glass pagoda]

That's true but

[undone citrus]

E33 especially

[glass pagoda]

有時候很難

[undone citrus]

Playing that game on PC is agony

[golden nexus]

Super Mario World?

[marble notch]

i played e33 on mouse and keyboard lol

[glass pagoda]

What's that game

[undone citrus]

It feels weird.

[marble notch]

i didnt find it too bad because you don't have to move around while parrying and stuff like in Sekiro

it's just timings

[glass pagoda]

各位，我們應該離題了

[undone citrus]

Controller is nicer

Especially since it was made with controller in mind

[glass pagoda]

Shouldn't we be in off topic

[undone citrus]

Lol

[glass pagoda]

因為這畢竟是離題了。

[marble notch]

i mean technically you should be speaking english so 😛

[stone moth]

So there are geysers with oil coming from them, how to i extract the oil

[undone citrus]

I need an e33 satisfactory mod

[glass pagoda]

They hate me cuz im not like other girls ||im a guy||

[golden nexus]

Late game machines

[marble notch]

build oil extractors. if you dont have them unlocked, check the HUB

[undone citrus]

Let me make swords, pictos, Chroma and Gestral dolls

[glass pagoda]

Dawg what

[marble notch]

mass printing an army of Maelles to take over the universe

[undone citrus]

They hate me because I Nuke Lizard doggos

[stone moth]

I have those, but im talking about geysers, not the stuff just on the ground

[undone citrus]

Lmfao

Redhead depression power

[marble notch]

ohh you have to use the pressurizer building, same as water or gas wells. i think you get it through the MAM

[stone moth]

which research chain

[marble notch]

you place the pressurizer on the central well and then smaller extractors on the little nodes

[undone citrus]

I feel like to word Gestral sounds really weird for anyone without context

[marble notch]

uhhh you might have to check the wiki for that one im not at my PC

[glass pagoda]

I will mangle ur flesh and bones into spaghetti and poke holes into your scalp pouring in liquid tar. Then I will dump your shoes in maple syrup and hide your TV remote. I will not take away your electronics but I will take away your chargers to watch the smile slowly fade from your face ||in gta of course||

[subtle escarp]

Hey, is there any useful website with colors for signs? I'm trying to find something that ressembles to "gold"a

[golden nexus]

This #FFD700

[marble notch]

ah its actually not in the MAM, it's in the HUB at tier 8. so it's a pretty late game building. the oil wells on the north coast should last you until then

[glass pagoda]

:3

[undone citrus]

I had to walk 90 minutes last night to get to the hotel my mom is staying at because she was too scared to drive on the roads for 10 minutes

For context it was -27°C, windy, snowing, and the sidewalks weren't shoveled so I had to walk on the side of the road with the cars.. 😭

[golden nexus]

also try #D4AF37 or #BF9B30

[undone citrus]

Just aquire sloop duplication

[marble notch]

google "HTML color picker"

[undone citrus]

Infinite power...

[subtle escarp]

I like the first one you sent earlier more hahahaha

[undone citrus]

Fair

[subtle escarp]

I'll try, thanks

[undone citrus]

I use it sometimes

[golden nexus]

thats the stnadard web one uses

[undone citrus]

Mostly just cause I don't want to worry about power

[chilly spear]

guys, adaptive control unit how

[undone citrus]

But I disconnect them when power is set up usually

[golden nexus]

making power in the game is part of the challange

its about the only thing that slows you down a little bit

[real shale]

power? power? did someone say power?

[undone citrus]

Yeah but I want a mostly peaceful experience

So I turn of hostile mobs and usually find a way to solve my power issues for awhile

Cause I don't want to worry about my factory turning off and taking 6+ hours to kickstart

[marble notch]

i play this game with hostile mobs turned off, infinite concrete for building, and movement speed hacks. i played the game fully vanilla already and now im just dicking around

you should play how you want

[undone citrus]

Fears and annoyances aren't the same thing

I try to play mostly normal, with limited duplication

But I always have dupe blueprints set up just in case I need a quick care package

Mostly used for concrete early game as well

Cause as soon as I started building I started needing a lot

[marble notch]

satisfactory is one of very few games where "cheating" enhances the sandbox experience for me quite a bit

[undone citrus]

My box factories took probably 15k-20k concrete

But my new building style uses a lot more, probably closer to 40k+

[real shale]

i swear my brain just autopilots sometimes playing this game

[sullen gull]

"Cheating" whaaaa? 😏 #screenshots message

[marble notch]

yeah the more advanced you get the more insane the amount of resources you burn through to the point where it's not fun to wait for your concrete factory to catch up lol

[undone citrus]

I just think it's absolutely hilarious how the blueprint dupe method works

[ripe swallow]

Hi there! What is the best design of balancers for variable input and output?

[marble notch]

i actually dont know what this is

[undone citrus]

The trucks get LAINCHED. built one in north forest and shot a truck to Rocky Desert

[marble notch]

you're gonna have to be more specific. but most of the time in this game balancers are not required for optimization

[sullen gull]

There is no reason to, or a way to achieve "variable" input or output.

[real shale]

i think someone took a bite outta your fuel generators, might want to take a look into that

[marble notch]

chomp

[marble notch]

technically with insufficient throughput or input you could have variable (not random) outputs

[ripe swallow]

When I keep chaning how much of each resource I produce and how much of each resource I consume. I would like a design that always delivers what is needed as long as production >= consumption (but individual input and individual outputs change over time).

[undone citrus]

Basically build walls with a gate, build a vehicle with storage, drive the vehicle onto the blueprint, load the vehicle with items you wish to duplicate, name and save blueprint, delete the vehicle and then just reload the blueprint. The vehicle technically isn't part of it but due to a glitch or something with gates being open it thinks it is and spawns the vehicle in

[real shale]

sushi is bestest

[sullen gull]

Yeah, this rock formation! 😒 #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

I use both depending on space on how lazy I am

Both have their benefits

[marble notch]

yeah use a manifold. this isn't factorio, there's no way to fine-tune the logic in the game other than overfeeding belts and letting machines take what they need.

use a manifold and produce slightly more than necessary to keep your belts saturated

[ripe swallow]

I don't build load balancers to be more efficient. I build load balancers to feel smart.

[sullen gull]

You build to suite. Meaning it's a "one-time" config to get desired output or use desired input .

[marble notch]

holy based

[sullen gull]

Lol, the current count is not correct. If I reload it's only just over 600k

[undone citrus]

That's what really disappointed me. I was really hoping programmable splitters were for that

[ripe swallow]

Yeah but how do you expand manifolds when the capacity of the fastest belt gets topped?

[sullen gull]

Start a new manifold

[golden nexus]

You bring in another belt over the top

[undone citrus]

I was about to say that lol

[marble notch]

upgrade your belts or use multiple belts

[undone citrus]

I really want to build a belt highway just because

Cause they look epic

[golden nexus]

The first trick with renewable manifold is not to fully saturate the belts

[real shale]

#screenshots messageThe line....

[ripe swallow]

I would like to have something robust where for example I make 5500 / minute and I consume 5300 / minute and it just works without rebuilding every time I change the ratios.

[sullen gull]

Make sure to offer a handicap lane!

[marble notch]

the game is designed in such a way that you will very rarely if ever have to deal with resource amounts that quickly overflow your belts or dont divide somewhat evenly into them

[golden nexus]

this game has that problem all over it unless you design things differently. Even Prior to T2 it demostrates this problem to you

[undone citrus]

Me when I need 12 of something and the recipe for some reason makes 5.85672

[ripe swallow]

Haha, I am post-game and I am just playing to maximize the coupon production.

[sullen gull]

You don't, Unless you are able to sink the output via a smart splitter and overflow setting

[marble notch]

the "best" way to do this is with manifolds, but you seem opposed to that idea. most of us here don't use balancers so we can't really help with that on a large scale

[real shale]

i was really hoping that water resource well was in the red forest

[ripe swallow]

I would be happy to use manifolds if they were robust.

[real shale]

turns out its underneath :(

[undone citrus]

When do I unlock the pumps that take from the mound thingies

[marble notch]

i was mostly referring to basic resource inputs, but it also doesnt matter what the ratios are if you use a manifold and the belt speed and production are high enough

[sullen gull]

Regardless, if not consuming total prduced, the "load balancer" would clog anyhow.

[undone citrus]

Cause that will expand my oil ten fold

[golden nexus]

This is a demo of a parallel sorter. It clusters various item groups on the output belts #1349353720034496512 message

[marble notch]

hub tier 8

[ripe swallow]

You know, I want to have several Mk.6 belts and I want stuff to be balanced between them so that everything gets where it is needed.

[undone citrus]

Why...

[ripe swallow]

Without separating which machines' output goes to which machines' input.

[real shale]

too late, i've already used those nodes for my RCU automation

[undone citrus]

My favorite oil spot is the red bamboo fields/forest

[marble notch]

like i said before, you're asking for advice on something impractical that most of us never use, so we cant give you much advice other than "figure it out or do something different"

[undone citrus]

I really want to build a base in it

[real shale]

i hate the red forest with every passing second, too many big stingers in there

[undone citrus]

No, the spot I'm thinking of is fairly close to the coal location for North forest

[golden nexus]

Another example of "over the top" when you hit the limit in this case its pet coke -> coal gens at like 900/min on mk3 belts 🙂 #design-and-architecture message

[undone citrus]

2 normal 1 pure

I think

It's the cliff under the red bamboo fields

[marble notch]

blue crater >>>>

[undone citrus]

I used to call it the red forest but idk how right that is

So i just call it by the actual biome name

[golden nexus]

Another example using a common bus / overflow method. It aims to have 600/min on input belts which then merger to additional manifolds #design-and-architecture message

[marble notch]

spire coast: frustrating geometry
red forest: too many bugs and trees
southern coast/lake by titan forest: not enough nodes

blue crater is the perfect oil spot

/hj

[undone citrus]

Yeah

[undone citrus]

I like the trees

That's why I hate the desert

[marble notch]

red forest does a number on my FPS and i think it's cuz of the trees

[undone citrus]

Trees are annoying to clear, but have actual pretty scenery

[marble notch]

i hate the desert too but it's a great spot for megabuilds

[golden nexus]

theres always been strange colliison / objects in the red forest

[undone citrus]

I hate all starter biomes except north forest

Cause north forest is pretty, and I care about looks over ease of access and space

[marble notch]

im actually a big fan of desert as a starter location because there's so much iron and copper

as ugly as the biome is

and oil not too far

[golden nexus]

Best starter place is grass fields 😛

[marble notch]

and SAM on the cliffs!

[undone citrus]

I like north forest cause it's easier to make pretty builds without having to customize as much and the nodes are very often pure or normal

I hate working with impure

[marble notch]

i remember booting up grass fields for the first time back when the game first went into EA 👵

[sullen gull]

Puuuufect fit: #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

Grass fields bores me to death

[sullen gull]

Sorry @marble notch didn't mean to @ you

[marble notch]

blue crater 😋

[golden nexus]

Why? They are massivly useful for dumping crappy factories on like rod, plate, copper sheets, rplate etc... it means you leave all the normal / pure nodes for the late stage of hte game

[undone citrus]

Prettier than dune desert but just too green

[undone citrus]

Because they're just not productive enough for me

[marble notch]

yeah but that makes the early game go slow as hell

rebuilding is free

[undone citrus]

Most of my factories I like building take a minimum of 120 of their base ore per minute

[placid stirrup]

You can add them, silly

[undone citrus]

Not when there's just one in the middle of nowhere

[marble notch]

my starter factories are usually built on 180-120-120 of iron, copper, gold in that order

[golden nexus]

It doens't, you just combine the nodes when you want to, 2 impure are like 1 normal. Just you a little more power. This means you get odd options to cleanly do things like have 3 plate makers.. which makes the game faster not slower

[placid stirrup]

The whole map is the "middle of nowhere"

[undone citrus]

I'm building a swamp base

[marble notch]

or you just use one pure node, save yourself the belt lines and power, and tear down the starter factory later

[undone citrus]

I want it to be black theme

With neon radioactive green

[golden nexus]

What you actually get in grass fields over by hte caterium node is 3 normal nodes in the form of 6 impure nodes. So you can mix/match them

[golden nexus]

Which does nothing for you until much later on.... ause just hit the belt speed on any combination

[undone citrus]

No. But for build potential yes

It's ugly, but in a good way

Very good spot for spooky theme builds

[marble notch]

i don't see how using impure nodes helps you later on either but it doesn't really matter anyway

[undone citrus]

I only start using them after mk2 miners

[placid stirrup]

I still have to film the nuclear build my bud and I did out there, sounds like you'll enjoy it

[golden nexus]

Well it helps you earlier... but later all the pure nodes are still completly unused...

[undone citrus]

I'm not going to bother with nuclear

Don't want to deal with radiation

Id like to have all areas accessable to any random person joining me

I wish you could explode temp nodes

[versed cosmos]

mine them and delete

[undone citrus]

Doesn't work early game for uranium...

[versed cosmos]

oh yeahhhh

[marble notch]

yeah the thing is that dismantling is free and instant so being "unused" doesnt matter

[undone citrus]

Even on peaceful that place has killed me 3 times

I've never been ambushed by non-moving objects before

[golden nexus]

Its not free, It costs time

[marble notch]

im starting a new save today too! havent played 1.1 yet 😁

[clear tartan]

do power plants need power?

[undone citrus]

When you're speeding along and running into world war 2 gas clouds without warning death comes out of nowhere

[undone citrus]

To kickstart

[placid stirrup]

No, they need plants. Common mistake

[undone citrus]

Cause the stuff that runs the plants always takes power

[clear tartan]

ohhhh myyy goddd

whyy

[undone citrus]

Like oil, coal drills, water extractors and so on

[ripe swallow]

More realistic.

[clear tartan]

i need to kickstart 4 coal power plants

[undone citrus]

But the factories themself I don't think take power

[clear tartan]

or something

[undone citrus]

Generators? Or like full on power plants with multiple generators?

[ripe swallow]

Has anybody tried to convert the entire map into a factory? To use up all resource nodes and create and many coupons as possible?

[undone citrus]

It took me 1000 MW to kickstart my "starter" coal factory lol

[golden nexus]

just disconnect and run one underclocked until the inputs fill up and it can run its self.... then charge pwoer stroage and then connect the rest

[ripe swallow]

What is uobject?

[undone citrus]

So you'll only need like 2 extractors and 2 pumps

One extractor if you overclock

[placid stirrup]

Unreal Engine, there's a max amount the game can handle before the game itself stops being able to process everything

[ripe swallow]

Does Satisfactory use the Unreal Engine?

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Unreal_Engine#Unreal_Engine_UObject_Limit

[ripe swallow]

Unreal Tournament, the original game for which was Unreal Engine developed, is no longer alive, is it?

What is the newest version?

[golden nexus]

thats called stationeers 😛

[ripe swallow]

Unreal Tournament. Sorry for the offtopic.

[placid stirrup]

SPF instead of FPS

[golden nexus]

Stationeers is a base/factory/survival kinda game which is way more brutal than Satisfactory in terms of complexity. You basically need to be able to program to play it to its full potential

[vague osprey]

Curved build mode for painted beams when

[tranquil zinc]

anyone know why my power capacity is staying at 90 MW? I just added 2 biomass generators, currently have 6. But powerpole is saying only 90 capacity

[green fiber]

just approximate with infinitely many small segments

[green fiber]

messed up the wiring?

[tranquil zinc]

or am I misunderstanding the graph

[tranquil zinc]

what do you mean?

[golden nexus]

Unreal is a nice engine tbh, it works well, most people who complain have no idea their ego is barking against several billion in R&D costs to produce the equivalent engine

[ripe swallow]

Are they all connected?

[green fiber]

"did you perhaps accidentally not connect them all to the same power network, thinking that you actually did"

[vague osprey]

The people that blame poor performance on ue5 and not the developers probably don’t know that games like satisfactory, arc raiders, and maybe Fortnite run on ue5

[robust nova]

trying to plan Aluminum factory around nodes in Red Forest. Do these outputs seem reasonable for those parts, looking to start producing packaged rocket fuel for drones#screenshots message

[tranquil zinc]

I have one main pole that is connected to all biomass generators, no matter how many I add, its always 90

[ripe swallow]

BTW is there any Christmas even this year?

*event

[placid stirrup]

Did you put fuel in all of them

[tranquil zinc]

nevermind, found the missing wire lol. Just when I had a warning about playing too long...

need a break, why is this game so simple yet addicting

[golden nexus]

big red button

[undone citrus]

Should I get a Sheltie or a Samoyed

[placid stirrup]

"simple"
He says in Phase 1

[undone citrus]

Then something is connected or fueled right or turned on

[placid stirrup]

Wrong game

[undone citrus]

It's almost over 😭

[undone citrus]

Not a game at all. Irl

I want a puppy

[placid stirrup]

#off-topic-general

[undone citrus]

Bruh

[placid stirrup]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[undone citrus]

Nobody talk there

[ripe swallow]

OK, then I will not even start.

Maybe next year.

[vague osprey]

Suffering on phase 5 rn (I haven’t even started making the factories)

[golden nexus]

yeah but he can cash the checks the ego is writting 😛

[undone citrus]

I mean it's still like 20 days

But a lot of time you had is gone

[placid stirrup]

Phase 5 oddly enough starts off simpler than you'd think

[undone citrus]

On a creative world I looked at end game parts and decided no

[vague osprey]

I wish there was a way to turn of the presents falling but not everything else, I want to do the event but the presents covering my factories are annoying

[placid stirrup]

Nuclear aside

[undone citrus]

There is a way, build 10 gift trees or disable the event

[vague osprey]

I wish they would’ve told me that

[undone citrus]

Lol

[ripe swallow]

Is it different than last year?

[placid stirrup]

Nope

[golden nexus]

just one problem... after you build 10 gift tree's you will probably end up building the other 45,000 or so

[undone citrus]

Yeah gift trees being 15/min is painful

Is there upgrades

[real shale]

i wish i could eradicate the red forest and all its stingers

[golden nexus]

they tie it into iron/copper so you can't go infinate....

[white dawn]

I mean, sure, each individual tree is only 15/min, but they're also infinitely placeable and require no power

[undone citrus]

If you destroy every tree do more grow

[vague burrow]

Is there a way to middle-click a blueprint so you can copy it?

[white dawn]

Anyway, no, there are no Gift Tree upgrades. The Gift Tree upgrade is to build moar. :)

[white dawn]

Yep, switch to Blueprint Dismantle mode and then do middle-click

[placid stirrup]

In dismantle mode yes

[placid stirrup]

How tf you write more and still sneak in before me

[vague burrow]

But it'll allow you to build it, even if it's in dismantle mode?

[undone citrus]

♪How bad can I possibly be♪

[golden nexus]

looks like its 3 to a smelter 😛 which means just spamming "Red Ball's Blueprint"

[real shale]

how much does the save size increase when you destroy every tree in the game?

[vague burrow]

Ah! Very cool! It works!

[white dawn]

Childhood addiction to typing games, probably. :D

[undone citrus]

Chronically online typing speed

[placid stirrup]

Mensa member vs Swiss cheese brain I guess

[cunning glade]

So I have a question how much power do refineries take at 250%

[undone citrus]

Anyways I shall become the onceler

[undone citrus]

Fish

[cunning glade]

Cuz im gonna need 1155

[undone citrus]

Lmao

[cunning glade]

And I wanna overclock them too 250 so I don't need that many

[placid stirrup]

That's a Bad Idea

[cunning glade]

Wym

[undone citrus]

Probably like 15x that at least

For power

[trim sundial]

My powercells dont seem to have any effect on my assemblers, i dont see any numbers changing anywhere, they are still producing 2 smart plates per min.

[versed cosmos]

You need to move the slider

[undone citrus]

You turning it up

[placid stirrup]

Any way you slice it, 1000+ refineries in a single factory is excessive

You likely don't have enough power shards either

[undone citrus]

Why does the save size increase

[real shale]

because it needs to track every tree thats been destroyed

[cunning glade]

Well it'll probably be a few factorys cuz I need 15k copper and that'll be its own factory

[trim sundial]

OHHH

[cunning glade]

Oh u easily do plus u can make them

[versed cosmos]

I've heard destroying foliage causing save file bloat was fixed a while ago?

[undone citrus]

Just track every tree that was there and when it goes boom delete it's family lineage

Truck power

The most useful item

[placid stirrup]

You have 1400 shards?

[golden nexus]

You can automate their production

[undone citrus]

Are power shards hard to make

[golden nexus]

no

[undone citrus]

You can unlock them early but the ability to automate them seems to be a bit advanced

[versed cosmos]

Oh automating them is a bit crazy

[undone citrus]

Comparing them to phase 3 parts

[versed cosmos]

There are SO many slugs though

Can easily get 1000 shards without even half the slugs on the map

[golden nexus]

They need Quarts, Dark Matter, Time Crystals.....

[undone citrus]

Why automate when you can go the Egyptian way

[stone moth]

Is the somersloop power thing good?

[undone citrus]

So yes they are hard 😭😭

[versed cosmos]

It's pretty sick for setting up isolated grids

[cunning glade]

Not yet but could easily get them

[undone citrus]

I have 1400 power shards

I grow them

[golden nexus]

No, You get the Dark Matter Crystal from a converter, and the excited photonic matter.... for free basically, Time crystal you can make from pet coke and quartz is a basic item

[stone moth]

The alien power augmenter thing?

[versed cosmos]

Yeah it's great

[golden nexus]

ahh sam makes dark matter residue

[stone moth]

What does it cost to build

[undone citrus]

Imagine you're on your first playthrough and haven't got past phase 3 ever and you hear the words dark matter and time crystals.

That don't sound easy

[versed cosmos]

!wikisearch alien power augmenter

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=alien+power+augmenter

[golden nexus]

Its just another recipie..... tbh htye are easier than say hi-speed connector?

[undone citrus]

Fish

[golden nexus]

probably less effort than motors?

But they are power hungry

[undone citrus]

How many can you make without sloop duplication

[stone moth]

10 somersloops is insane

[placid stirrup]

Is it really that many? Assuming slooped production here.
Even still, the assumption is there are shards in other factories so that reduces total count by a bit, and after producing what you don't have you'll end up with no shards left for future builds. Max OCing the equivalent of 1155 refineries is going to saturate your production of that item quickly and you won't need much of that item once its fulfilled its use. I just don't see the benefit of A. making a factory that big, and B. using all of your shards to do so

[stone moth]

How do you duplicate somersloops

[undone citrus]

I really want water exploration

[golden nexus]

Just edit the save....

[undone citrus]

Give me subnautica. Put scary shit in the water

[placid stirrup]

Slooping shard production from slugs is what they are referring to

[undone citrus]

Pull a Farcry. Just swimming along and then boom shark

[rugged shard]

Did someone mentioned subnautica

[undone citrus]

You can use blueprints

[golden nexus]

sloops.. they go in machine double the output

[undone citrus]

It's way easier than save editing

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=dS9F5XxGsr98bDU0Cz7z factory is for this I'm gonna sloop for a full mk1 belt

[stone moth]

What do you do to do that?

[undone citrus]

This is my method

[rugged shard]

Ok bru im new, what does sloop mean exactly 😭

Everyone saying it

[undone citrus]

Superman candies

[rugged shard]

Oh this

What dis for

[undone citrus]

Nom nom

[rugged shard]

I have like... 3 of them

[golden nexus]

It goes in machine output slot, kinda like overclocking but doublws the output production rate for the same set of inputs

[rugged shard]

Can you overclock do that at same time

[undone citrus]

It double the item but makes it one tier lower

[rugged shard]

Wym, how

[golden nexus]

Yes. Ideall you overclock to 250% to get the machine count down then provide enough sloops

[undone citrus]

Lmao I'm just spitting satire don't mind me

[rugged shard]

😭

[golden nexus]

However... power requirements are at like 6x-8x?

[undone citrus]

I thought it was like 4x

[rugged shard]

So should I collect this funi looking Rock

[golden nexus]

heheh i have asingle slooped quantum encoder using 8,000 here 🙂 (not overclocked)

[undone citrus]

Cause my constructors cost like 55 mw

[cunning glade]

Yeah chat Particle Accelerator if I sloop 60 of them what's the power requirements looking like

[rugged shard]

Yea man whateva that is

[undone citrus]

Oh wait that's a big increase

[placid stirrup]

Sorry not gonna wait for that to load, what are you making?

[golden nexus]

very late game item

[stone moth]

Wait so do i put the walls on the bluprint or no

[undone citrus]

Oo factory cart racing

[undone citrus]

Yeah

Idk why it only works with walls

But I think the glitch happens with the gate

[stone moth]

What size of blueprint

[undone citrus]

Because. Nothing else I do works

[undone citrus]

Any size. And you can put multiple trucks too

[young rivet]

Imagine if you had to power conveyors

[undone citrus]

Yay

Wind up flashlight style

[rugged shard]

Wai what there's duping? 😭

[undone citrus]

Maybe

Depends who's asking. Are you the sloop irs?

[cunning glade]

30 nuclear pasta a min

[golden nexus]

there have been expliots for it yes

[rugged shard]

No like Im fine whit it just idk what y'all even dupe 😭

[placid stirrup]

I know I would have regrets if I made that much which is why I caution you

[golden nexus]

However you can tell if somebody has used an expliot because the save file items counts won't match the use counts etc...

[undone citrus]

Mostly sloops and mercer spheres

Cause they're limited

[rugged shard]

They limited?

[placid stirrup]

I did copper alloy in the DD with good success

[rugged shard]

Damn okay

[undone citrus]

Yeah

[stone moth]

does what gate i use matter

[cunning glade]

Wym it's just more points

[undone citrus]

Around like 200 for both. Idk numbers

[golden nexus]

slooops auto make a power augmenter which boosts power supply

[rugged shard]

When should I even start using sloops

[undone citrus]

Yeah, automatic gate

[young rivet]

What do Mercer spheres even do? I have like 10 of em idk what to use em for

[placid stirrup]

They're great for space elevator parts to finish them quicker but it's really all up to you

[rugged shard]

How that work exactly?

[placid stirrup]

Check the MAM

[sullen gull]

MAM research and building DD's

[rugged shard]

And what is augmenter is

[undone citrus]

They feed your items to the space god where he kindly holds onto them for you in his space room and then he telepathically transports them to your pocket

[stone moth]

do i drive the vehicle through the gate or does it not matter where i drive the vehicle

[undone citrus]

Yeah drive it on the blueprint and make sure gate stays open

[golden nexus]

10 sloops make this #screenshots message

[young rivet]

My power plant currently has 39 coal powered generators

[undone citrus]

It's the fat ass of power generation, always hungry for more, but unlike people he actually gives back to the world

[trim sundial]

I feel like im actually making progress and becoming sustainable now. I have 8 coal generators holding at 100 coal, i have a my two coal miners inputing into a industrial container, a 240 per min and a 120 per min coal miner, that container has two seperate outputs, one to my coal generators and one to my assembly line, so even should i lose power ill have ALOT of coal in reserve. I also have 8 power storage facilities, probably going to double it just because im over cautious lol

[rugged shard]

Wgat even is that 💔

[golden nexus]

Power augmentor... so when i plugged it in.. it did this to the grid #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

It's a human launcher

Less efficient than hyper tubes tho

[rugged shard]

It gave 2k power?

[young rivet]

I feel this system could be revamped to be more effecient

[golden nexus]

300MW + 10% or something

[trim sundial]

Oh im sure it can but im working on unlocking tier 5 so i dont have much to play with lol

[rugged shard]

So it runs on sloops right

[undone citrus]

500

[golden nexus]

yes i am probably wrong

[rugged shard]

300mw is not a lot tho?

[undone citrus]

Mine make 825 with the boost

[rugged shard]

How do even increase it

[undone citrus]

Its 500 MW + 10% of you're entire power grid

[golden nexus]

The base value is not, but the 10% added... Well I have 25,000 so another 2,500MW is added + 500MW

[young rivet]

So you have a total coal output of 360 but only 8 generators. You could have a total of 24 generators

[placid stirrup]

Tier 9

[rugged shard]

One day🙏

[undone citrus]

I'm running 24 on 960/min

[golden nexus]

I can also make 3 of the machine currenty which is 7,500 added. But say if you do a 500,000MW power plant you get that added

[undone citrus]

And 2700 water/min

[green fiber]

More more is more more

[golden nexus]

So you get like 50,000 for free on top per augmentor

[rugged shard]

Ima explode whit this number things in head goin on rn

[golden nexus]

hahahhaa

[young rivet]

The generator only burns 15 coal a minute, it doesn’t need anymore unless if it’s overclocked. At 960 a minute you could have 64

[trim sundial]

Im actually persuing this option right now. Im just trying to think about my piping situation, but insteasd i think im going to over clock my water extractors, if i put one power cell in a water extractor i can get 3 coal generators on one extractor

[undone citrus]

Now make 5.825 rotors per minute and try to equally distribute them

[rugged shard]

I actually make abt 8 rotors per minute 😎

[undone citrus]

Overclocked I could only have 25 max. But 4 rows of 6 looked nicer

[golden nexus]

ok.... #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

I always overclock power to max

[young rivet]

I’ll show you my setup that I’ve found to be pretty efficient n easy in #screenshots

[undone citrus]

Less space and less building for same result

[rugged shard]

Vru is "5.825" something special 💔 can't it be like 5 or 6😔

[undone citrus]

It's so annoying

[real shale]

oh yeah i have to plant 160 fuel generators later

[undone citrus]

Even without duping I usually have the shards

[golden nexus]

no

[undone citrus]

Just save slugs and speedruns sloops

I'm just bullying that one specific rotor recipe

[rugged shard]

Are slugs limited too

[undone citrus]

I saw 5.8267 blah blah blah and went nah

[golden nexus]

the copper rotor?

[undone citrus]

Yes until you harness the power of space and time and anime

[golden nexus]

any good places with sam and quartz together?

[real shale]

i only use power shards for miners, oil extractors and resource well extractors these days, i like having an absurd number of machines

[undone citrus]

North forest

[rugged shard]

Yea man to safe they go now

[trim sundial]

Im actually thinking that for now if i just overclock my 8 coal generators and water extractors i should be good on power for sometime

[real shale]

rocky desert cave

[golden nexus]

used 🙁

[stone moth]

Holy crap it works

[rugged shard]

Yo where get Sam I need for mam

[undone citrus]

There's a spot with an impure and a pure sam node with 2 normal quartz fairly close

[golden nexus]

where did you start?

[rugged shard]

Good question

[undone citrus]

Yeah

[stone moth]

holy peak

[rugged shard]

The first picture idk💔

[undone citrus]

I set up multiple and usually name them stuff like "concrete 1200"

[real shale]

Theres also the area east of grassy fields with 3 quarts nodes and sam

[undone citrus]

If you don't delete the truck and load it over and over and over

[young rivet]

Fair, I’m stingy w/ power shards so I’d rather do the 40+ generators my setup has vs less 😂

[undone citrus]

They go flying lmao

[golden nexus]

Spolier 😛 #screenshots message

[real shale]

the sam there is normal not impure

[stone moth]

Wdym? do you not have to delete the truck over and over

[undone citrus]

You don't have too yeah

But its annoying to hunt them down lol

[rugged shard]

Where you getting them😤

[real shale]

its a normal sam node, 2 pure quartz and a normal quartz

[golden nexus]

follow that belt lol

[undone citrus]

They go FLYING. Like separate biomes kind of flying

[golden nexus]

that belt is a belt of sam ore, its purple

[placid stirrup]

Did you accidentally post a JumpSpace pic there or is my discord bugging?

[rugged shard]

Hmm okay I'll try when I can log on again

[stone moth]

So, how does the alien power augmenter work?

[undone citrus]

Infinite power....

[stone moth]

Yeah but how exactly?

[rugged shard]

Jumpspace is fire

[undone citrus]

Just keep building

[golden nexus]

discord bugging, thats a picture of the giant arch in GF

[stone moth]

Do multiple of them make it stack?

[undone citrus]

Yes

[versed cosmos]

It makes power without needing an input

[real shale]

#screenshots message

[placid stirrup]

That's what I thought but then I saw you were in that discord too lmao

[undone citrus]

500+10% of the total every time

On just 6 my power grid of 5k went to 13.5k

[versed cosmos]

Great for setting up isolated grids where you just want to run a few miners or something

[rugged shard]

When do you unlock them?

[golden nexus]

ffs i have no infrastrucutre in north forest

[undone citrus]

Oh only 106 sloops

So you can only make 10 augmenters

[undone citrus]

Alien tech tree

If you focus on only it you can get them in less than an hour

[rugged shard]

Oh ok

[rugged shard]

Are they hard to craft tho

[undone citrus]

Not really

[versed cosmos]

Yeah at least early game they're kinda expensive and take parts you don't have yet

[sullen gull]

Soo hard. Takes months to build a decent factory!

[undone citrus]

If you're automating all the basic stuff you have access too in phase 3 you can easily build them

[rugged shard]

Not really -proceeds to say words I never head before

[golden nexus]

I am looking now for a sam node in the purple forest (east of GF) for SAM+Quartz looks good

[rugged shard]

Oh alr

[stone moth]

So the alien power augmenter has an input slot, what does that do?

[undone citrus]

I love the Sam node locations in north forest

[swift grove]

takes inputs.

[undone citrus]

They're so good. One pure and one Impure very close

[placid stirrup]

Tier 9

[sullen gull]

Increases the amount it boots.

[golden nexus]

impure is enought for power shards

[undone citrus]

Yeah but when it's so close why waste it

[trim sundial]

I guess its true what people have been saying, once you understand power generation, you really have no reason not to overclock things, the power increase seems to be very minimal

[undone citrus]

Like they're just around the corner from one another

[sullen gull]

Overclock allll the things! Less buildings the bettah! 😛

[trim sundial]

Indeed. I need to go slug hunting.

[real shale]

i disagree, turn this planet into a factory itself, more buildings, more exploitation

[rugged shard]

Do y'all be duping the overclock thingy? Cuz no way y'all be getting sm of them normally

[undone citrus]

Nah I like having visible planet

[undone citrus]

Some do some don't

[sullen gull]

Duping?

You mean using sloops?

[versed cosmos]

Preserving some nature is awesome

[real shale]

that is not very climate change accelerationist of you

[undone citrus]

All depends on your plans. If you need more than provided yeah

[versed cosmos]

CS gave us a gorgeous planet and told us to destroy it

[rugged shard]

Oh okay

[versed cosmos]

I can't bring myself to do it man

[real shale]

destroy it, turn all of the land into concrete foundations

[golden nexus]

Just realised I can abandon that and use the existing (mostly under used SAM) which and get quarts from coal from limestone

[undone citrus]

Nah real duping

On console we don't have mods so we have to exploit

[rugged shard]

You on console too?

[undone citrus]

Yeah

[rugged shard]

Oh nice

[undone citrus]

I'm hoping they leave it in for us

[rugged shard]

Real fr

[sullen gull]

No need. if one gatherd all the slugs on the map, and used sloops to produce them into shards, they'd have over 5k. And, by that point, they should/could be on synthetic shardsd.

[undone citrus]

It's not super game breaking

[real shale]

wait does console not have synthetic power shards or something?

am i missing something here

[undone citrus]

Yeah but you can't craft sloops

[rugged shard]

Also when do you like, have the enough stuff to even unlock duping process, iykwim

[golden nexus]

it does, the player probably does not

[undone citrus]

I dupe those mostly

[sullen gull]

Then "cheat" 🤷‍♂️

[undone citrus]

I literally said console doesn't have cheats or mods

So we have to dupe

[rain wasp]

Just sharing my experience thats all, coming from 500hrs in factorio, I thought satisfactory is a no brainer, yet im actually struggling to enjoy this one. Im not sure why, but I dont really want to play it anymore after 10 hours, it doesnt feel satisfying to me and I dont really like the 1st person, makes everything so much harder

[sullen gull]

Exactly how are you "duping"?

[undone citrus]

Using a blueprint glitch

[swift void]

What is out going transfer rate

[golden nexus]

Yeah but harder is good?

[undone citrus]

I have like 400 sloops lol

More than I meant

[rain wasp]

its not a good difficulty, its just a nuisance

[golden nexus]

Yeha I have SAM, I can make quarts here with SAM....

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[rugged shard]

Grabify link man😔😔

[undone citrus]

So I can make even better factories

Instead of having to pick and choose where the default 106 go

[sullen gull]

If ya say so 🙂

[golden nexus]

You just have to expand to thinking in 3d #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

I want to build those crazy circular builds

But it's pain

[sullen gull]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3ZM4Zzhqs

[rugged shard]

What is that may I ask

[golden nexus]

A Factory 🙂

[rugged shard]

Yh but

What it be makin

[golden nexus]

It actually makes renforced plate, one of the early game items....

[rugged shard]

Oh😭

[golden nexus]

but its making like 40/minute

[rugged shard]

Well can't say nun bc I'm RIGHT NOW trying to even make 1 automated system that makes reinforced plates

[river pier]

Hello everyone! Im new to satisfactory, I have already reached the coal energy making. Im trying to make a new factory for iron, but im suffering

im using mk2 belts and it seems like everything is bottlenecked, even if I check the rates of production

[golden nexus]

Another factory #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

I can set up 10/min in the first hour of the game, so probably around 3 hours to make 40/min if I wanted

Would just be annoying

[rain wasp]

am I right in saying theres no point stashing gun parts under 50% as theres no way to repair them

[rugged shard]

It's nice that you have 800+hours in game😤😤

[undone citrus]

Nah

I'm a new player actually

[rugged shard]

How many hours

[undone citrus]

Started exactly 23 days ago

[sullen gull]

won't mention his 4800+

[river pier]

its the fact that I have everything on mk1 and belts on mk2 making it look like everything is bottlenecked?

dammit theses iron rods

[rugged shard]

Hmmmmmmm okay...

[cunning glade]

Question how does one properly start a loop with cannisters

[undone citrus]

That's so much time

[golden nexus]

Container, Fill it 2/3rd's full and let it rip

if the container gets completly empty... fill to half again

[sullen gull]

Especially since Aug '24 😛

Pretty sure they are over 18k now.

But, I believe they have been playing since initial EA

[golden nexus]

You end up with something like this... (this is nitrogen) #screenshots message

[rugged shard]

Me when i had sm goals planned for 2026 and got satisfactory almost at the end of 2025😔

[shell nest]

Hello all is anyone on AUS servers?

[sullen gull]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[shell nest]

Oh sick. Thanks bro

[rugged shard]

What a good Samaritan bot

[trim sundial]

My goal right now is to overclock my water extractor, if my mathing of overclock numbers checks out i can produce double the power and water with half the generators and water extractors yes?

[cunning glade]

So I should put a container in my loop?

Cuz some rows be running out of canisters

Ik I added at least 3200

[undone citrus]

Ive owned the game for 23 days and have 12 days 10 hours play time

So over half of the time I've owned the game has been spent on the game

[golden nexus]

Yeah use it as a buffer, make sure there is stuff in it, but you also need some slack in the system or it can deadlock

so if there i gaps just fill the box once

[cunning glade]

Yeah I keep getting deadlock rows too

Second time doing a loop so

[golden nexus]

needs buffering

[cunning glade]

First time I had blenders

Noted i

[golden nexus]

only loop i have here is nitrogen currently

[cunning glade]

I made plastic loop that makes 3600 I believe

Which I'm hoping is enough at this point

[stone moth]

What is bauxite used for

[cunning glade]

I may end up making more rubber cuz I'll I'm already using 1k of it

[cunning glade]

Aluminum

[stone moth]

When do i unlock aluminium

[golden nexus]

last

[stone moth]

Oof

[golden nexus]

Well nearly last. its before nuclear / phase 5

[stone moth]

I have so many mercer spheres and somersloops idk what to do with them all

[golden nexus]

@cunning glade So i am doing something like this with unpacker + blender #screenshots message

So that gots back to buffer/container then to a drone port, then is taken off to the nitrogen node to be packed and sent back, there is also buffering over there

its fine for it to deadlock.. kinda.. which mine is currently because it has materials. Whats not fine is if deadlocks and there is no supply

[tame bobcat]

yo how do i keep fuel in my generators? or are they meant to keep flicking on and off, its not my production thats the issue (afaik)

[golden nexus]

not making enough fuel

[tight yacht]

asuming they keep flicking off, it's either a water (case sensitive) or resource shortage

[tame bobcat]

im making 80 and have 4 generators which use 20 each

[golden nexus]

Has it only just started?

[tame bobcat]

been running for like a min or two and keeps flicking on and off

[golden nexus]

yeah like any manifold it needs to populate

[tame bobcat]

ah alright, will wait and see thanks

if it still acts up i might just make more fuel than needed atp (or see if i need pumps but i doubt thats the case)

[dim flint]

Gah, having a 600 pipe randomly getting backed up and I don't know why.

[tame bobcat]

you only need pumps for going up a lot right?

[golden nexus]

what i often do when building the fuel plant is attach a large tank so it fills the tank and then you connect the tank to populate the manifold as fast as possible and then remove it ......

[trim sundial]

OMG...Please tell me you can build water extractors on the water nodes you find in the ground? Or is it something i need to unlock still because i just found water nodes right near my coal sources and all i can imagine is WALLS of coal generators lol

[golden nexus]

Nope, You need a Resource well extractor

[trim sundial]

Darn it! Hopes crushed

[golden nexus]

ITs this thing #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

to resotre your hope, just rail the water to it

[gloomy tusk]

Guys

why did my power fuse break

[lunar python]

not naugh power

[stone moth]

Is there a stack limit to tickets?

[golden nexus]

500?

[pulsar glade]

How do I get gas filiters so I can progress

[sullen gull]

Make em

[haughty patio]

Has anyone here ever attempted a cityblock design similar to factorio?

[sullen gull]

MAM Research

[golden nexus]

I have a city design?

[golden nexus]

Comes in towers? #screenshots message

[haughty patio]

City block is a method where you work on a giant grid

In my case I'll attempt to create factories within a 5x5 grid. Each block of the grid is also 5x5

[golden nexus]

Yes, Like this, Tower design is footprint of the blueprint machine #screenshots message

Its 300/min stator 🙂

Better photo #screenshots message

i hate these as well

[haughty patio]

#screenshots message A bit more like this. Building giant foundation in the sky to pretent the earth is flat and factories must stay within the area I've marked here

[golden nexus]

In fact the reason why there is windows on it isn't to look cool, Its to spread the load across the quantum depots so tyou can build faster 😉

I have had a lot of success using towers in this way in the game. Especially going from early to late game

Cause you just rip out the tower and replace it with either a different reicpie or one that runs faster

[haughty patio]

All materials are will be exchanged through trains and the trains will occupy a 1x3 area of each side. so max 4 trains per block

[golden nexus]

Yeah it works well but you need a bigger building typically. Its fine to put buildings on trains.....

[haughty patio]

Yeah, I'm allowing myself to build upwards if necessary

[golden nexus]

Like this for example #screenshots message

you will find you have to build up to make it fit

thts a 20/min CO factory... it should expand to 40/min

[haughty patio]

Looks nice

[golden nexus]

remember its spagetti in a box 🙂

[haughty patio]

as long as it is contained and doesn't affect other blocks, I think it's a good solution

[golden nexus]

Yeah what i do is not to bring things to one place, its build on a suitable node cluster and then reduce it to a few items / minute which means there is no logestics load

Like the stator factory is processing 3600/min iron + 1200/min copper or something.... if you had 300/min per train car the stator factory needs 1 train car vs 16 in terms of train size

[rugged shard]

How many screws a min should I be making to be good whit screws for this game

[haughty patio]

infinity^infinity

[rugged shard]

🔥🔥🔥

[golden nexus]

Make a box of screws foryourself, but in reality make them where they are used

theres ways to deal with them

[rugged shard]

I get 5 metal per 20 screws

Like 5 metal = 20 screws

Idk if I stated that right before

[golden nexus]

you dont make builk screws... or quickwire ever

You consume the screws where they are made, this means you deal in ingots, not in screws #screenshots message

[vague osprey]

Is there any reason I shouldn’t just put 2 power shards into a machine instead of using two machines?

Especially if I have a power shard factory

[golden nexus]

temporary, or machine reduction (eg nuclear) in order to get less machines to use sloops to get additional power output

Power shards cost nothing in generators... people use them there all the time

thats matters eg dropping in 100 gens instead of 250 gens is a big deal...

[vague osprey]

Yeah because nuclear plants are giant I would much rather use 15 with 2 power shards instead of 30

Or 12 with 3 shards

[robust nova]

I think I can pull this off :). Gonna take up a chunk of Grassy Fields#screenshots message

[golden nexus]

yeah exactly one use, but when making nuclear fuel rods. If you sloop all manu's you get 2x the power. But because of limited sloops you want to reduce machine count as much as possible to save sloops

so?

Yeah but its the principle of dumping the screws as quickly as possible... there is many approaches to doing it

[green gale]

my first aluminum factory that doesnt back up is finally working

[golden nexus]

What a lot of people do is build all their screw/wire/quickwire in a single row and then feed the row to the other row of machines.... this is "poor" you hit belt limits when inflating. So if you stream ingot to the row and hte individual machines shove them into its extra machine you never hit belts limits....

So the next belt limit is the ingot....

So in something like rplate, you go up the tower with 2 or 4 ingot belts... and then use a, b for plates / screws, then use c, d and then merge a, b, c, d 😛

So you end up being able to break / workaround belt limits quickly, predictably and sensibly 😛

grass fields is where its act for start of game tbh

I have played in all of them... even in this "stater factory" which was to pull oil back into the grass fields early game and put initial oil processing local to the builds.. which turned out to be a great decision

i suspect this is also why fluid trucks are being added

[rugged shard]

@robust nova what website/app is this you used in screenshots?

[golden nexus]

What happens is you basically unlock everything and then your ready to move on from the grass fields

[versed cosmos]

Tbh when you first start really dealing with liquids in oil processing train are pretty much right around the corner

[golden nexus]

Trains come pre-oil these days 😛

[robust nova]

Satisfactory Tools and Excel

[rugged shard]

Oh okay, is the first one a website?

[golden nexus]

same i am ready to throw this save away and work more on looks etc...

[robust nova]

Yea, satisfactorytools.com

[rugged shard]

Alr ty

[sullen gull]

Satisfactory Modeler for PC is also very good.

[robust nova]

I like this tool better than satisfactory calculator. Much easier to read.

But I use calculator for other things

[dense violet]

it takes a little learning but its worth it

[golden nexus]

like having oil in starter location was funny cause i could run the coal power plant on pet coke 😛

[robust nova]

I have not tried modeler

[rugged shard]

I'm on phone

Like i play on ps but I don't have pc

[stone moth]

So my fluid pipe has liquid going into it, but it doesnt go to the packager, can someone help. #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Eh, you'll have issues with SFtools as welll then

[dense violet]

none of the planners are good on phones. Do you have a pad or something?

[signal falcon]

anyone know how to fix the public notes (in the to do list) being blurry? i cant edit them neither can i read it on screen

[rugged shard]

Off

Not rlly

[dense violet]

it'll be a bit rough then, can you use browsers on your TV?

[stone moth]

Ive tried valves and pumps but they dont work

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images

[rugged shard]

Well, I will figure out something still

[dense violet]

the image in screen shots just shows a giant mess which is never good for pipes

[golden nexus]

most of the graphics stuff btw is simply colour selection and looking up a chart of which colour goes with which thing and then adding a light on it

[signal falcon]

anyone able to help with the bug im experiencing in #screenshots ?

[golden nexus]

its known bug i think... expect fix sometime

[signal falcon]

im in a server with my mates, if he writes in public notes i cannot see

[golden nexus]

put it on a giant sign

[signal falcon]

but if i write in it theres no issues

[real shale]

i have spent almost 12 hours straight just doing logistics, not even factory building..... the insanity grows

[golden nexus]

mayby in #streams-and-videos

[sullen gull]

If it's not some sort of how-to or stream video, I do 🤷‍♂️

[golden nexus]

Yeah, But its also been his fulltime job for 5 years.....

[gloomy tusk]

how much can 1 waterwheel thingy power

[dense violet]

water extractors don't power anything

so zero

[golden nexus]

Ratio is 3 -> 8 coal gens but thats 360/min water and a mk1 pipe takes 300 😉

[rugged shard]

Lowk, sftools have an app version and its rlly simple, undrstood everything in couple of mins, nothin too complicated

[golden nexus]

yeah.. one of my smelters inside btw #screenshots message

[stone moth]

I fixed my problem\

[rugged shard]

So how does it work if needed 360min water but mk1 pipe can only take 300

[golden nexus]

pipes have 2 ends 😉

[real shale]

I swear i've been having a lot of issues with mergers placed directly onto conveyor belts lately

[rugged shard]

Hmm, don't quite understand still 😭

I'm too slow for this at 2am

[white dawn]

Basically you just can't use a single pipe to feed the coal gens

[golden nexus]

You do something like this #screenshots message

[real shale]

am i missing something or do mergers just refuse to merge sometimes when you place them directly onto belts?

[white dawn]

If you search for CG at the wiki, there's some example piping schemes near the bottom which will all do the trick with mk1 pipes

Though they all, in the end, just rely on feeding the water from at least 2 different spots

[tight edge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[golden nexus]

Yup, you missed the belt... or it think you did, also when you snap them on belts like that its very easy to have a little tiny sectino of belt created which doesn't upgrade later

[rugged shard]

No yea I know how to build that simple 3 by 8 coal power plant but still don't understand how it gets tru 360water a min

Well I never build one yet but i think I know how...💔

[real shale]

i swear i'm snapping it properly, like one side goes through but any side inputs just.... do not merge when i feed them into the merger.... its so strange

[golden nexus]

Each junction consumed water, so if you consider each coal gen uses 45/min water the pipe goes 300, -45, -45, -45, -45, -45, -45, +120 (extra extractor), -45, -45

Its a running total....

[rugged shard]

That's lot of 45's man

[golden nexus]

thats the coal plants

[rugged shard]

But I think I get it

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

simple layouts - great to use

[golden nexus]

The actual set from my screenshot is overclocked and such so its like 300 + 120 -> coal gens <- +300

but same basic design

[hybrid nymph]

What I built with my coal plant is very similar to this

[rugged shard]

Im planing to build that very first coal power plant today

[golden nexus]

Get rotor, rplate done first 🙂

[hybrid nymph]

I found a coal source near oil And I am delivering the coal by train and I set up 32 generators.

[rugged shard]

Wai wha

[rugged shard]

Oh like automated?

[golden nexus]

yes

[rugged shard]

Already have

[hybrid nymph]

The thing about coal generators, they're dirt cheap, you can build over 30 of them for not too many resources, it's just rotors and reinforced iron plants

I currently have 64 coal generators

[rugged shard]

Do you rely on coal power plants whole game or get something better later on

[golden nexus]

Whats also cool if you have them at oil, you can get your coal back by burning pet coke for a while, when making compacted coal factory with sulpure etc...

[hybrid nymph]

Producing 4,800 MW. There's a problem, there is an a sulfur source anywhere nearby so I would have to deliver the sulfur by train

[dense violet]

you unlock tons of techs

the milestones are just a tutorial to teach you things, just keep going forward

[golden nexus]

there like biomass, solid bio fuel, coal, fuel, turbo fuelk, rocket fuel, ionized fuel, nuclear uranium, nuclear plutonium, ficsonium 😛

[hybrid nymph]

Thank you for the tip, I know 😁

[rugged shard]

1bazilian biomass burners

No trees left in map

And no bushes

[versed cosmos]

much better. fuel generators give you a bit more than 3x what coal generators do

and with the right alt recipes you can make a LOT of fuel and its even better derivatives

[dense violet]

why is that a problem?

[hybrid nymph]

I was thinking of something, It's actually slightly more efficient to burn petroleum coke in cold generators then it is to convert the heavy oil residue into fuel. I mean it would take a lot of generators but it would make slightly more power

[golden nexus]

It works as well

[versed cosmos]

I think the power it takes to run water extractors balances out to be about even?

[golden nexus]

Coal is a little better iirc, but its more work

[versed cosmos]

So many coal generators and piping the water to them

[golden nexus]

its also a pain cause you often end up with tlike 7.5 * 120 = 900/min which is fun with mk3 belts

[hybrid nymph]

Coal takes more resources to set up, And you have to make a lot of them, but it's absolutely worth it

I have Mk 4 belts, I'm almost to MK 5

[modest nest]

I hook up 1 water pump thing to 2 coal generators and underclock the water to 75%

[golden nexus]

then you do it with gens not coal

[rugged shard]

What does that changes

[versed cosmos]

It balances it out

[golden nexus]

You can alter th eratio to 1:1

[versed cosmos]

With the extractor at 100% you'll make too much water and the extractor will cycle on and off

[rugged shard]

Oh

So is it worth it doing this way

[versed cosmos]

Power draw is inconsistent and it's easier to know how close you are to blowing your grid if the draw is constant

[dense violet]

eh, not really.

[golden nexus]

When you overclock machines the power doesn't go up equally to match. Its consumes a lot more.. when you underclock the machine does also use less power..... so you save power

[dense violet]

you'll often fill a mk2 belt with 120 coal, and feed 8 generators

just use the 3 water extractors

Like in the diagram I linked you

[rugged shard]

Yea, I will use that

[versed cosmos]

It is easier to wrap your head around 1 extractor to 2 gens

4 at 75% uses a tiny amount less power than 3 at 100%

[golden nexus]

in my case its the opposite, because where i built my coal power plant. Where is only a tiny puddle of water so I cannot fit more extractors, So i add more coal gens by speeding them up... at the cost of power...

So this is trading space, time, build materials for power generation ability

[versed cosmos]

That's fair

[golden nexus]

The game progresses towards a model of eveyrthing is a tradoff and becomes more specific to a individual bad choices 🙂

Running water extractors in a puddle is not recommended 🙂 #screenshots message

[real shale]

#screenshots message

Finally, done all the conveyor belting for this factory lmao

[versed cosmos]

is this the grassy fields spot that always trips up new players lol

[golden nexus]

I asm not new, I have got away with this before and could not be bothered to run over hill

[versed cosmos]

valid lmao

[golden nexus]

and yes, i had to do a 3 card monty with the power supply, which i new was coming, which is also something baked into the desing eg i can switch off buildings or floors of buildings

[versed cosmos]

also i didnt mean to imply you were new lol

i just see a lot of new players try to fit coal power in that spot when theres a much better spot close by

[golden nexus]

Its fine, was just explaining the raitonal behind it...

[versed cosmos]

👍

[golden nexus]

There is of course a 25,000MW on the west coast

[hybrid nymph]

Question: so with the power switches can I shut off all of my coal generators at once?

I've never used power switches before

[golden nexus]

no

[dense violet]

no they'll keep burning all their fuel

you could shut off the miner or water extractors?

[versed cosmos]

power switch lets you split your grid

you turn it off and two grids that are only connected through the power switch essentially become disconnected

[hybrid nymph]

I am not a communist, I'm a socialist

I still believe in money

[ocean frost]

You mean coupons

[hybrid nymph]

Indeed coupons

[versed cosmos]

a power switch between your coal generators and the rest of your grid will let you disconnect your grid while still letting the coal plant run its miners and extractors so it doesnt run dry and shut down

[versed cosmos]

hey me too!

but lets maybe not talk politics here lol

[golden nexus]

Theres also a prioirty power switch, this means if you overload a grid, you can trip out the switch and the power sources can protect themselves

[hybrid nymph]

I used to be part of a group for that, but they were mean to me because I have autism 😞

[versed cosmos]

yeah priority switch can do pretty much what i said but does it automatically when you blow your grid

[dense violet]

That's some facebook twitter understanding of socialism right there xD

[hybrid nymph]

Indeed 👍

I love this game

[versed cosmos]

this is the autism community lol

[hybrid nymph]

Also little fact about me, actual credentialed political scientist and economist here have a bachelor's degree in both

I used to be a teacher, but it wasn't for me

[tranquil zinc]

how do you palce a water extractor? I am unable to place it in any of the pure water

[hasty stump]

taking a break to rethink after building 80% of my baby motor factory before i noticed that i need 250 screws at some point and i only have mk 3 belts 😭

[versed cosmos]

is it too shallow

[hybrid nymph]

So overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, and people were so tough on me 😞😭

[golden nexus]

as ada says, you need to put it in something wet... like water

[hasty stump]

guess it's gonna run at 240/250 of full capacity for now haha

[dense violet]

show an image of what you're trying to do

[versed cosmos]

ALT RECIPIES

iron pipe and steel rotor

[hybrid nymph]

So after 3 months of that bull**** I said "f*** this! I'm done!"

[tranquil zinc]

it is pure water, no matter which one it wont allow me to

[hybrid nymph]

I think useful alternate recipe in the game is iron screws

[hasty stump]

fr, i need to go on another hard drive hunt, they seem a bit scarce in this biome (dune desert, my first playthrough there)

[dense violet]

mk3 belts can move 270.

[versed cosmos]

all of the starting biomes are pretty scarce for hard drives

[hybrid nymph]

Because it's such a pain to make screws you have to set up a bunch of constructors making iron rods and then make those iron rods into screws

[hasty stump]

oh shit you're right, i had a brain fart haha

[golden nexus]

Biggest issues with teachers, (my mother was teacher/teacher trainer), they don't have the right to refuse to teach a pupil and some peolpe in classes simply need returned to their parents (or somebody else to deal with it). It just can't be done in mainstream.. everyone else + teacher suffers

[versed cosmos]

when i first get into steel i do a big hard drive hunt

[tranquil zinc]

I am, but it still red and wont allow me to. I am putting it on top of something that says "pure water"

[hasty stump]

probably because i always use them for 240, 99% of the time

[dense violet]

you can always also change clocking so you can manage belt throughputs even if they didn't move 270

[golden nexus]

yeah.. your trying to put it on a resource well/node thats for a resource extractor not a water extractor

[versed cosmos]

that extra 30 on mk3 belts is incredible

[hybrid nymph]

I taught middle school, 6-9 grade

[hasty stump]

i feel like that has saved my bacon several times in the past

[dense violet]

are you tryign to put it on a rock?

[golden nexus]

like this... #screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

its SO GOOD

[hybrid nymph]

After I quit I went to work for Best Buy for a year

[tranquil zinc]

yes, its says pure water

[golden nexus]

Retail has the same problem, some people just simply need shown the door

[tranquil zinc]

So I do not need water extractor then?

[dense violet]

put them in water

[hybrid nymph]

I worked less hours, was paid more, paid every 2 weeks, was appreciated and respected, and was so much less stress

[golden nexus]

no, you cannot put water extracotr there

[dense violet]

what you're looking at needs a different machine

[magic rune]

is there a way to make a truck only refuel at an unload station and not unload anything? just realized i lost all my compacted coal power because a coal truck was sneakily inserting a stack-ish into what's supposed to be a sulfur-only truck intake (that also refuels with compacted coal out)

[tranquil zinc]

So I do not need water extractor then?

[hybrid nymph]

It is yes

[dense violet]

fill up it's container with crap so it has no space

[dense violet]

if you need water, from a lake, you do

[golden nexus]

water extracotr goes in water like this #screenshots message

[hybrid nymph]

I think one of the most useful mods for the game is a glass fluid tank

So that you look at the side of it and you can see the guild level

[tranquil zinc]

so what do I need for pure water on a rock? cause mk1 miner does not allow me to

[tranquil zinc]

thanks

[dense violet]

I told you, a presurizer. Way later on.

[versed cosmos]

resource well pressuriser which comes WAY later

[golden nexus]

its a T8 game / late game item

[dense violet]

if you need water, find a lake

[hasty stump]

or better yet, an ocean

[tranquil zinc]

ok, got it. thanks

[golden nexus]

still don't recommend tiny puddle 🙂

[hasty stump]

haha memories of my very first playthrough when i naively built my water extractors in that little puddle in the grassy fields

[hybrid nymph]

I wish you could make the animals remains into meat so you could eat it 🤤😋

To restore health

[golden nexus]

we were previously talking about that #screenshots message

[hasty stump]

yep, i'd call it a noob trap except a smarter noob than me would have considered that for like 2 seconds and said nah, even worse, i piped the water uphill about halfway to the coal nodes and built my baby power facility there

[real shale]

Damn, Sloppy alumina + pure aluminium ingot not as efficient as i thought it was for the logistics simplicity it provides... can only get 1710 casings a minute from 2850 bauxite as oppposed to a 1:1 ratio bauxite to casing using instant scrap and alclad casing

Although, that is a lot more items to be working with lol

[versed cosmos]

yeah sloppy and pure give you less but make the logistics far easier

im gonna do exactly that in my current playthrough

HOR for coke and diluted fuel to get rid of the byproduct water

gonna grab the heat exchanger alt too so i can use the polymer resin

[hybrid nymph]

Too bad PC isn't crossplatform with console, but mods are why...😞

[versed cosmos]

i know a guy who can get you coke

[real shale]

wait, is that crude oil well near red forest actually in the red forest?

[hybrid nymph]

Brb going to go make some lunch 😋

[golden nexus]

Its 1:1 for the ingot itsn't it?

[arctic marten]

Yooo ! 👋
Is it still possible to turn off the fog in the game ? If it is, then how ?

[versed cosmos]

pretty sure there's a console command for it

[real shale]

not if you are using pure

[arctic marten]

How to open the console ? never did that

[real shale]

if you are using the default recipe 2850 bauxite gives you 3420 ingots

[golden nexus]

I was doing 1 -> 1 ingot for 600baux -> ali ingot, but then you get 75% of the ingot if you do Alclad Casing

[sullen gull]

~ and then r.fog 0

[versed cosmos]

key right below escape

[golden nexus]

yeah sloppy is like 1:1

[versed cosmos]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=2Oa5DWBWg9k3numaqQHV

[real shale]

electrode might be doable here if that oil well is actually in the red forest

[arctic marten]

Tilde ? Where is that key ? Tilde for me is the 2 key, I mean I have azerty keyboard, might be because of that XD

[versed cosmos]

obv scale up as needed but the numbers are very clean here

[real shale]

as for alclad casings...... i really dont wanna be hauling copper up here

[golden nexus]

as phd comp sci people say, the squiggle thing top left

[sullen gull]

Not sure. For me it's as @versed cosmos said, right below ESC. also has ` on it.

[karmic quarry]

So guys I wanna play this game with my friend and he is on PC and I am on console.
Is that supported?

[sullen gull]

Also called Tilde 🙂

[versed cosmos]

no 😭

[real shale]

I wanna get Mk3 miners to allow for some logistics simplification of my 40 GW turbo fuel power plant