satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

mod

[magic yoke]

ill try it in 10mins give me a moment, but its sounds like what im searching for

[quick girder]

i have the infinite elevator mod installed and it doesnt work. am i mising something like a config?

[magic yoke]

how sould it look like when you open it ?

[mortal ginkgo]

not using it so

[hard ivy]

you can edit the session name in-game and with SCIM

you can try changing it in game first and saving again, but idk if it won't change the session name of all other saves

ig you can try saving twice, copying one save out of the save folder, changing the session name of the first, and pasting the other back in

or just change the save's session name with SCIM

[rocky scarab]

unreadable except for the first couple lines, in there is sessionName=[world name]

i guess changing that would split it off into a new world

i mean idk i've never tried it, but it might work?

[dim flint]

God I wish I could define passenger train stations to be bidirectional.

[quick girder]

can i ask what mod you are thinking of i may have the wrong one lol

[dim flint]

Oh shit, I brought down my portal network's power!

[frail sleet]

It's not the most resource efficient if you're going for minimum plutonium and ficsonium, but it greatly simplifies waste processing and it's the best if you're going max plutonium.

Good choice on smaller powerplants (say 250gw rather than 1tw+) regardless.

[magic yoke]

oh but is there a change that i brake my entie world ?

[rocky scarab]

yeah i mean obviously do this on a backup save, but worst case it will only break that save, i mean that's the only file you're modifying

[real shale]

anyone else get like really weird lighting changes when it goes from day to night?

[magic yoke]

hmmmm ill try it i just copied the whold folder where my world saves are stored in

[rocky scarab]

honestly always good to maintain a backup anyway, css recommended it until 1.0

[sick falcon]

how do i put signals on my train network

do i just throw a block signal at every intersection

[rocky scarab]

path in > block out on intersections

break the rest up into large-ish blocks

[ivory condor]

Yes, you use to define blocks and if multiple trains should be allowed through a given block

[magic yoke]

didnt work i renamed the session name and now it vanished

[ivory condor]

block signals-obviously allow only one train to go through a given block, path signals-allow multiple trains to go through a given block assuming they save safely pass each other and not hit

[rocky scarab]

hmm, maybe try creating a world with the destination name first then?

[magic yoke]

how can i targed one spesific file?

in the default menu you cant access smthng like that ?

[rocky scarab]

no i mean start a new world with [name] then edit the save you want to keep solo to sessionName=[name]

[magic yoke]

aaaahhhh

smart

[magic yoke]

didnt work either

hmmmm

[rocky scarab]

aha, i should have tried this first - save editor has this option

[magic yoke]

i did open a ticket named Want a Copy World of mine where i can .... in #1038092680493801533

if its better to wirte in there ?

[magic yoke]

what is save editor ?

[strong fiber]

I gotts build 228 fuel gens bruh

[rocky scarab]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[strong fiber]

but it will be worth it

Cuz then i will produce 142 GW

[rocky scarab]

load a dupe up in here, then options > map options has the session name editable 👍

then you can download the save, move it back into you saves folder and you'll have a new folder in satisfactory load menu - tested and confirmed this works

[real shale]

Only to feed it through one tiny cable

[strong fiber]

Why

Gonna need an over clocked powerpole for allat

Im gonna put it on a priority power switch

[magic yoke]

yyyyyaaaaaaaayyyyyyy it worked rly rly rly rly rly thank you

[real shale]

okay, time to do what ive been putting off all day and do factory math

[strong fiber]

Factory math

[real shale]

yeah

[strong fiber]

Hopefully i dont got any pipe problems

Thats the only thing im worried about

[real shale]

black starting 142 GW will be fun lol

[strong fiber]

And still gotta setup some water extractors and bring sulfur and nitrogen gas

I been putting that off because i got no infrastructure out where the nitrogen gas and sulfur is at

im probably gonna start it one floor at a time

[rocky scarab]

@magic yoke 120 gennys? that'll take you to finish if you build medium small and recycle production lines

personally i'd want a bit more overhead, but i like my grid fat and healthy (over 100% power redundancy)

[peak wasp]

hiii!!

can i attach the pwoer line on first smelter (or other production structure) then attach each structure with other structure??

in short word: i can no create N power line when N is the number of structure ?

is no beatiful to watch XD

[reef basin]

no. Each machine (apart from power storage) can only have one connection

[hot mango]

i got a tray of 200 screws in my advent calendar today 😦 meh,

[peak wasp]

sigh ç_ç thanks

[placid dew]

just unlocked nuclear energy what should i focus on?

[magic yoke]

its my first playthough and i thought i want as much power out of oil as i can get that why i used 100% of the Oil at the lake
I processed it into the purple oil thing > purple thing with alternate recepie with water bottles into fuel kanisters > fuel with compact coal into turbo fuel but the last step is in progress and rn i only power everything fith fuel
i did want the MK5 Belts and MK3 miners first bevor i do the last step and yeah

[white dawn]

One way to effectively do that is with blueprints, btw. Can use beans and such to position a wall socket "onto" a building (dismantling the beams afterwards), and then daisy-chain them that way

[trim sundial]

Can someone look at the screenshots channel and the picture i just posted? I need to know if my eyes are playing tricks on me

[white dawn]

(Technically you could do that without blueprints too, of course, but blueprints make it far more convenient)

[white dawn]

Questions which require screenshots are often best posted in #1038092680493801533 btw

[leaden turret]

vertical splitters/mergers are a thing now

[trim sundial]

Right but i looks like it connected to the lift as one big piece, it looks like a belt that feeds right into the splitter will bring it down the lift...either that or they just clipped into each other

[reef basin]

making your own goals 😉

[trim sundial]

OMG they do work as one! That changes EVERYTHING. I dont need parallel belts!

[sullen gull]

Yes, that works. And you can do some clean looking builds with how lifts snap to splitters and mergers.

[real shale]

aaa

i really dont like that sudden lighting change when it becomes night

its like the sun just vanished instantly

same thing when it becomes day, feels like i just got flashbanged lmao

[peak wasp]

oh ok i try

[forest flicker]

Me and a friend are playing multiplayer on steam. We made a mega factory together... I'm the host, he oftentimes crashed, but it was okay. Today he suddenly started to crash all the time. He enters the game, walk 4-5 steps, the game crashes again.

The error is the same this guy reports:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/fPrzgOuAlh

If this is really because the factory is too big and the game doesn't handle that for the hosted it means we cannot play together anymore, which is kinda sad cause our factory was getting good

Anyone else experienced this or have a solution? (Please ping me for answers)

[frozen quartz]

I FOUND A WAY TO GET FREE POWER SHARDS

!!!!!!!!!

[dim flint]

sloop'n?

[lusty rain]

Hello, I was asking this question via Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/q0OnIqXwN0

Basically, since all FICSMAS participants are using the same tag, how is there a distinguish between who's submitting for PC and Console? Do we need to put it in the title and/or comments or should there be a couple of tags created, one for console and one for PC?

[glass pagoda]

Hi greeny

[hard ivy]

there's like 3 ways to do that

[glass pagoda]

What are they

Ik of the lizard dogo method i

[shrewd hatch]

Is it possible to scan hard drives faster

[hard ivy]

sloops, slugs from doggos and synthetic

[shrewd hatch]

I have 95 hard drives

[mystic otter]

💀

[glass pagoda]

Wdym synthetic

[hard ivy]

should've been scanning them while you were collecting them

[frozen quartz]

NOPE COPY BUILDING AND PLACE

[hard ivy]

that's not free

[sullen gull]

Those arn't free

[shrewd hatch]

yea I thought they were useless so I only stored them

[sullen gull]

They should be taking shards from inevtory or DD

[frozen quartz]

NOPE

[glass pagoda]

Not free

[glass pagoda]

Dude they aren't free

[frozen quartz]

it doesnt charge me

i had none in my inv

[hard ivy]

I guess you can also add the dupe glitch, AGS and SCIM, but those aren't really legit

[sullen gull]

What about the DD?

[glass pagoda]

Kyo has been in the discord for 5 years now i think he knows

[frozen quartz]

i dont have them there

?????

[glass pagoda]

So wdym @hard ivy synthetic

[hard ivy]

power shards can be made without slugs in tier 9

[sullen gull]

Well, must be pulling from somewhere. Otherwise, it would do the copy with only the shards you have avaliable (adds 1 or 2 if that's all you have, or none)

[mystic otter]

You're gonna be spending about 15 hours and 50 minutes scanning.

[frozen quartz]

i dont think so thats werid

[glass pagoda]

Ah so that's how inozid fual is worth it

[hard ivy]

nothing in this game is useless

[glass pagoda]

Biocoal

[shrewd hatch]

its okay I will push through

[mystic otter]

Maybe not so much I've already invested into like 30 rocket fuel burners lol

[sullen gull]

Only "worth it" for making some for the jetpack. Not really "worth" using for power generation

[glass pagoda]

I feel like turbo is the best for power besides rocket of course

[hard ivy]

it's worse than fuel imo

[sullen gull]

Rocket or nuke. Or bust 🙂

[frozen quartz]

nvm

[glass pagoda]

Turbo gives less power then fual??

[mystic otter]

God I'm still phase four on my xbox I'm not even thinking of nuclear power right now let alone making clean nuclear power setup lol 😂

[shrewd hatch]

nuclear so boring

[hard ivy]

for the amount of effort it takes to build, I'd say yes

[shrewd hatch]

I made turbofuel and tripled my power

[glass pagoda]

Im setting up a huge turbo fual plant but im willing to put in the effort for the extra power

[glass pagoda]

Especially an alt

[hard ivy]

both turbofuel alts are terrible to burn directly for power lol

[glass pagoda]

No i mean the alt for regular fual

[sullen gull]

At that point, just research rocket fuel and go "all the way" (All the way technically would be ionized, but I say that's not worth it for the effort due to net loss vs net gain)

[glass pagoda]

Im only going to finish teir 3 soon so I made the turbo fual in gold coast and im making rocket fual in blue crater then I will convert my gold coast to rocket

[hard ivy]

with the best fuel alts, you get 20 GW for 600 oil. no point in making turbo when you can just make fuel and then rocket

[lone island]

im addicted

im addicted to building factories

[sullen gull]

Hi Addicted, I'm Tinker! o/

[real shale]

Hi Tinker! o/ I'm Nerdmojer

[reef basin]

should've scanned them while searching for them

[reef basin]

no, one turbofuel gives 2000 MJ, one fuel gives iirc 750 MJ

[clear tartan]

is it possible to run satisfactory on a laptop

[hard ivy]

why would it not be?

[clear tartan]

true

[hard ivy]

it just needs to be powerful enough

[clear tartan]

just doubting my self whether it can on mine since performance is on the floor when i dont have the charger in

[hard ivy]

typical laptop behaviour

mine is 2x slower without a charger plugged in

and it doesn't even have a DGPU

[clear tartan]

but when my laptop is plugged in it does better

[bright sail]

hey guys, im new to satis factory and just got to basicsteel production, How would i automate biofuel if there is a way to do that?

[sullen gull]

You can turn off those throttling settings I believe... But battery life would probably be through the floor.

[sullen gull]

Biofuel can't be fully automated. At this point, you should be making a Coal gen power factory.

[bright sail]

noted thanks!

[clear tartan]

what would that be under

[sullen gull]

Where are you on the map?

[bright sail]

im on the easiest map

like near the middle

[sullen gull]

Erm, sorry, I am not 100% sure.

[hard ivy]

that doesn't answer the question lol

[sullen gull]

So, grass lands. FYI, it's all the samne map

[bright sail]

thanks

[sullen gull]

Nah, it does.

[hard ivy]

I'd say rocky desert is easiest

[sullen gull]

I'd tend to agree, but the game states otherwise 😛

@bright sail This is a very good spot to make coal power: #screenshots message

[bright sail]

thanks so much!

[sullen gull]

And can easily make something like so: #screenshots message

64 gens = 4800MW

[lone island]

hi tinker, i just bought the game and i think im addicted to a new drug

[sullen gull]

My ~4900 hours clocked over the last year may mean we should be going to the same meetings 🤣

[reef basin]

there's only one map

[buoyant anvil]

For the gun, it used to be that tapping R reloaded, but holding R brought up the menu to select ammo type before reloading. Now it reloads to the same ammo type even when I hold R, and only allows me to switch ammo type after the reload is complete and I hold R again. Is anyone else seeing that or is it just me. I'm playing modded, but none of my mods involve the gun or its behavior.

[opaque birch]

I'm so intimidated to start working on phase 3

or is it phase 2

i have no idea but I just unlocked oil processing

[old grotto]

Phase 5 was fun! You'll get there

[old grotto]

That's where the fun starts!

[ancient plinth]

how many walls high is blueprint mk3 again

[opaque birch]

I thought the fun was designing factories lol

[ancient plinth]

12?

[old grotto]

Everything is fun when you're saving the puppies and kittens!

Get to work Pioneer!

[cerulean pulsar]

Just got the game and have movement difficulties but love it so far. Would there be any pioneers willing to come help me set up things properly I have a lot set up but feel like I need help streamlining.

[magic yoke]

is there any build limit in Satisfactory ?

[leaden turret]

yes but you're unlikely to hit it

[sullen gull]

There is a UObject limit. But only a rare few may hit it

[magic yoke]

do you know exact numbers ?

[buoyant anvil]

It's 48m cubed, so 12 wall high.

[sullen gull]

Over 2bill

Mil? ...

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Unreal_Engine#Unreal_Engine_UObject_Limit

[magic yoke]

damn that fucking crazy

[sullen gull]

2,162,688 UObjects

[magic yoke]

crazy

[buoyant anvil]

I'm past the UObject limt, and I just bumped the config file up 50% and I'm still going. Don't recall the exact limit, but it's hard to know anyway because one object in the game does not equal one UObject.

[ancient plinth]

yep, 48m tall, each wall is 8m wide and 4m tall hence 12 walls

[sullen gull]

There is a mod that will show you current count

[buoyant anvil]

Yeah, I know. Just don't need to know. I got an error when I hit it and it was on a save with nearing 2000 hours and had every biome built up, foundations for 250km+ of track, a couple dozen factories. It took a very long time to hit it and, apart from a brief moment to exit, bump up the number in the config file and restart, it was uneventful.

Not like you lose your save.

[dim flint]

Anyone else leave a few main portals around with a small storage of singularity cells just in case you want to turn it on?

[sullen gull]

That error can be mis leading as there is an issue with the garbage collection and the number can increas over the course of playing.

[hot mango]

well if you are drinking ... cheers... i have straight kentucky bourbon called makers mark 🥃

[buoyant anvil]

That's good stuff. There are better, I know, but it's definitely good enough for day drinking. lol.

[sullen gull]

Screwball here 🙂

[hot mango]

cheers 😺

[buoyant anvil]

BTW, when you open the build menu for the BP Designers, it'll tell you the size of each in the description on the right.

[sullen gull]

@bright sail Can't do text replies in #screenshots

[bright sail]

yeah i said i couldnt even comprehend whats going on in that photo

[sullen gull]

@bright sail Also, given your name, I surley expect to see a lot of 5S and effeciency in your factories! 😛

[ancient plinth]

yes but mk3 hasn't been unlocked yet

[fast ruin]

i have a small question, i just reached phase 4 and i'm about to destroy my entire current spaguetti setup to remake it clean. I have 3 normal node i'm planning to upgrade to mk3 and have it made 360 iron rod and 1440 screw. SHould i instead wait for the hard drive recipe for ingot into screw? or if i need to update, is it gonna need a lot of change?

[hot mango]

i just got some hog bits from 2 of my doggos 😸

[sullen gull]

One good use for Satisfactory Modeler is to be able to setup multiple different builds with different alts to see what you may want to do.

[sullen gull]

Well, least you know that one can hold it's own 😛

[hot mango]

to go from bars to ingots is simple, you just remove the bar making constructor

[fast ruin]

i'm also checking on steel screw recipe to reduce the size of factory

[buoyant anvil]

cast iron screws are the best if you can find the recipe. (Best meaning easy)

[sullen gull]

But, Ideally, on the first playthoughs, its usually recomended to not rebuild and just go build new somehwhere else.

[hot mango]

yeah haha, or a lucky find, but then 2 or them both gave me hog bits, i think they are a tag team or hit doggos 😸

[fast ruin]

there is no contructor mk2

[sullen gull]

Only machine that goes up in version is the Miner.

[buoyant anvil]

No, but a single Somersloop makes it produce twice as many.

[fast ruin]

still i'm looking at over 50 contructor

[sour ledge]

is there a trick i can use to survive picking up the 'totally normal gifts'?

[hot mango]

i live sloops...

[sullen gull]

Which is mainly useful for biomass/fuel, slugs, and "end items"

[sour ledge]

there's one here, and im actually down to my last couple nobelisks so like... i wanna pick it up. But not if im gonna die.

[hot mango]

flying works

[sullen gull]

I mean, you can set the setting to "Keep everything" to make it less annoying 😛

Oh, yeah, and when on the hoverpack, it increases the interaction range 😛

[sour ledge]

oooo that's a protip right there. im waaaaaay afield so the hoverpack is a no-go, but i think thep arachute works the same... ill try it

[hot mango]

yes you can reach things from an amzing distance vs on foot

[sour ledge]

HAH! total victory with the parachute

thanks!

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/so-amazing-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-that's-incredible-spectacular-gif-13497212603684529403

[hot mango]

😆

i have the advanced modes on in my game, i can just fly all the time

what did you all get in your advent calendars today, i got 200 screws 😦

[strong fiber]

im half way done placing fuel gens

Got 114 up and running so far

[sullen gull]

I am being a 'good pioneer', according to ADA, and concentrating on building factories 🤣

[hot mango]

ok haha well i finished this game ages ago and im just messing about now with not much that i have to do at all, im a pioneer of leisure

[sullen gull]

Oh, same, thrice over lol.

Now I'm messing about trying to build "pretty" things 🤣 #screenshots message

[hot mango]

oh i only did it over the once, i have 2 completed saves, this is the 2nd one

1st was with no advanced settings, i did it raw lol

[hot mango]

yee, thats nice, i like the train station too very neat 😺

[sullen gull]

One for initial entry to the game (after 1.0 and there was an "end" in place of course, started in U8), once to test a whole bunch of stuff (Mainly pipes), and the last one was to get all the Achievements. Except for the Golden Nut... waiting until I feel I "deserve" that one 🤣

[sullen gull]

Lol, not mine actually. It's Hornslets 1.0 global train network. Just threw it in here as a bit of a "reference"

[hot mango]

well i started my 1st game well before 1.0, it was more of a pain back then being new at it, but im well comfy with the game now, i just dont really want to do it all again tbh, i cant be bothered 😆 i could have got the golden nut but seeing as i am hoarding my vouchers that wont happen

[peak plank]

Holy crap, you can make SOO much rocket fuel with very little resources.. am i missing something ? 🤔

[hot mango]

no you do get lots of some things on this game, quite rare tho i do understand

[white dawn]

Nah, it's a pretty resource-efficient fuel for sure

The main downside is just Endless Fuel Gen Spam™, though that can be mitigated somewhat with overclocking and blueprints

[peak plank]

What part is rare? if im mathing right you can run like 50 generators off of like impure versions of every input .. not even overclocked

[peak plank]

Like building tons of generators you mean ?

[white dawn]

Yeah

[dim flint]

I love how the devs have falling trees collisions.

[peak plank]

ah, yea i overclock them all to 250% for sure

[white dawn]

I personally much prefer building out an equivalent in nuclear, 'cause I find the build far more interesting

But Rocket Fuel can be fun too. Why Not Do Both, etc. :D

[hot mango]

quite rare to get lots of something in this game..

[peak plank]

I havent delved into nuclear yet, just got done building my 50 computers per minute factory

[dim flint]

50 a min is a good bit

[peak plank]

heck ya 😎

[strong fiber]

I only have 5 computers a min and that gets me by fine

Also im using 600 crude to make 1200 rocket fuel so yes it is very efficient

[peak plank]

Thats 10 times less, your factory must be tiny and puny and small

[strong fiber]

It also makes ai limiters and high speed connecters

And radio control units

[peak plank]

and malnourished

[strong fiber]

And once my rocket fuel plant is complete im gonna make supercomputers with it

[real shale]

and yet another factory has been built.... slowly this planet becomes a factory in itself

[peak plank]

nice

[strong fiber]

Pollution go crazy

[real shale]

The true endgame is turning the planet into an ecumenopolios

[peak plank]

Glass frame all the hard drive crashes and add exhibit signage

[sullen gull]

You are aware you can dismantle them now?

[peak plank]

NEVER

i did see that though

I last played like 0.8 I think, the game is so much freakin better

soomersloops are so coool

[real shale]

Consume.

[sullen gull]

You GOTSta have some spahget in there too now 😛

[hot mango]

my cybertruck was floating around lol

its now upside down behind my space elevator 😸

[sullen gull]

Sounds about right 😛

[hot mango]

hehe yee, i noticed it in the sky before, i came back and its crashed 😆

[gentle lion]

So drones can make Stops at diff stations ? Picking up and dropping off at each one?

[placid comet]

I never thought try this before. If I make a train with two connected locomotives facing opposite direction, could I effectively make a monorail where instead of needing a roundabout, it just goes back and forth?

[reef basin]

no, drone only goes from home port to other port

[hard ivy]

they go from their home port to one other port and then back

[reef basin]

roundabout is msot crap junction ever

[wind siren]

but you can send a diff drone to the same port right? like a fuel drone

[reef basin]

yes

[hard ivy]

You can send multiple drones to the same port, yeah

[wind siren]

drones simply have a single home port

[hard ivy]

And a single destination port

[wind siren]

kinda sweems a need for a mega drone fuel port 😄

[placid comet]

Now if I do two locomotives, do I need a dock for each?

[hard ivy]

Only the front one

[silent heron]

What's the best Caterium recipe

[sullen gull]

For ingots? Pure

[hard ivy]

Leached gives more ingots per ore

[silent heron]

Ah, good, thought so but damn does it take a huge refinery for pure

Leached?

[hard ivy]

Though at the cost of sulfur

[hard ivy]

Also uses refineries 😆

[gentle lion]

But you can make.Second port home.of another drone?

[reef basin]

depends, how do you define "best"?

[silent heron]

I take it thats a higher end recipe?

[silent heron]

Best ore to ingot ratio

[hard ivy]

Every drone port can have a drone placed on it

[reef basin]

which ore? also ignoring other resources?

[gentle lion]

Suddenly feel like I don't make enough computers ....

[sullen gull]

16 refineries @250 for a normal caterium using pure.

[hard ivy]

Then that is leached. Then second is pure, possibly tempered?

[silent heron]

When can I unlock that?

[gentle lion]

Need to uograde ally mines to mk3 miners and mk5 belts lol and

[reef basin]

as with most alt recipes, get a hard drive and scan it in MAM

[silent heron]

I have exhausted the available alt recipes aside bio coal and charcoal or whatever

[wind siren]

i have yet to use leeched recipes, they're new to me

[sullen gull]

Even with Mk3, only normal need mk3 with the miner at 250%. The pure nodes would need a mk6 and impure, mk4

[sullen gull]

They are good for cat and Iron IF you don't mind wasting sulfur and lugging it in imo.

[wind siren]

the sulfur lugging is what didnt get me to try them last save

[reef basin]

well, more options get unlocked as you progress through tiers

[silent heron]

Ye, I'm at phase 3

[hard mantle]

I FINALLY HAVE COAL POWER!!!!!

finally no more manual power 🙏

[silent heron]

Ah, looked it up, I see

[silent heron]

I kinda skipped coal XD

[hard mantle]

how?

doesnt it go from coal to nuclear

[hard ivy]

why tf would you do that lol

[sullen gull]

Fuel is usually next. All depends on how you want to go though

[hard ivy]

no, there's fuel in-between

[sullen gull]

You could just ride coal, if you make enough, before nuclear, but that's usually not "typical"

[hot mango]

coal is low output so some will skip that

[hard mantle]

oh yeah i only watched like the first few episodes of a lets play

also holy coal makes so much power and its so awesome

[silent heron]

I explored and looted crash sites/sloops until I was able to build power augmenters, then I looted more to then build geothermal.

The power augmenter boosts geothermal on top of providing power in of themselves

[hot mango]

not as much as a fuel burning power station

[sullen gull]

One coal gen is 75.... A fuel gen is 250, 625 if overclocked.

[silent heron]

A single power augmenter provides 500 MW on top of giving you a 10% boost to power production to everything on the same grid, which comes to 550 MW output for just 1 augmenter and nothing else

[sullen gull]

They take 10 sloops to make though 😭

[silent heron]

Sloops are easy to find

[hot mango]

i have 11 of them 😸

[half atlas]

If I want to break even for rotor assembly, is 8 rod constructors and 15 screws constructors the correct answer?

[silent heron]

You can't have 11?

[wind siren]

the answer is always no more screws 😄

[hot mango]

oh yes i can lol

[silent heron]

There's only 107 sloops or so?

[sullen gull]

There are 106 on the map

[reef basin]

no

[reef basin]

depends on recipes

[silent heron]

That equals 10

[half atlas]

Not using alternate cast

Rod and screw

[reef basin]

that's not the only recipe tho

[hot mango]

i imported sloops in to my game and i have way more than a few hundred

[half atlas]

What

[silent heron]

Ah so ye cheated!

[reef basin]

there's so many alts, that you really need to specify which recipes you use

[half atlas]

Okay so I am still in early game and only have access to iron, not past phase 1 yet because my friends are slower pioneers

So I am using rod and screw currently to make rotors

[hot mango]

you could look at it that way but, this game already has cheats if you want to call them that added to it, it is in advanced mode which is in the game so hardly cheating

[wind siren]

screws are just, meh

[reef basin]

that's just skill issue tbh

[hot mango]

screws suck

[reef basin]

screws are completely fine

[wind siren]

lol, its a count needed vs belt capaicty IMO

[hot mango]

i got them in my advent calendar

[reef basin]

well why are you putting them on one belt?

[hot mango]

wtf 😟

[wind siren]

i'm not, i avoid them as much as i can 😛

[reef basin]

the whole "screws are needed in large quantities" is an issue of "don't try to merge them onto one belt, build them in front of machines that need them instead"

[unkempt blade]

no one wants to work anymore!

[half atlas]

But in that way I did the math and said:

Assembler needs:
20/min iron rods
100/min screws

Constructor produces:
15min/iron rod; 30[2] 45[3] 60[4] 75[5] 90[6] 105[7] 120[8]
40/min screw; 80[2] ... 600[15]

Conclusion
8 assemblers with 8 iron rod construction and 15 screws construction

But apparently this math is wrong

[reef basin]

well, no reason to do that, but you do you

[hot mango]

i got like 20 belts of screws in my base and more coming in from outside

[wind siren]

i dont see a gain from not avoiding them when you can do so

[reef basin]

I don't see a gain from avoiding them

[hot mango]

you can never have enough screws

[reef basin]

you can, if you make the amount you need

[hot mango]

well i have mow but going through the game you just seem to always need more screws

[reef basin]

that depends on recipes you use

[unkempt blade]

I cut concrete out of my supply chains and added screws back in. 2026 is a new year for screws!

[reef basin]

and if you build new factory, you make the ingredients for it as well

[wind siren]

i'm lazy atm and still have my "seed" factory so far 1 machine per item 🙂

[half atlas]

But this is also like very inefficient because it needs like. 9 iron veins

Which is unlikely that I find 9 iron veins and hook it all up

[unkempt blade]

or is it the most efficient because that's using the most common resource on the map?

[half atlas]

I wish I had alternate cast. I hate screw

[reef basin]

there's like 100 of them

[reef basin]

that doesn't help with screws at all

[hard ivy]

That doesn't really help with much?

[unkempt blade]

I disagree with these guys. Cast screws is the best alt recipe

[hot mango]

find hard drives and get the alt recipe

[south sinew]

cast screw is a really good recipe for the time at which you find it

[reef basin]

for like... 2 hours

[south sinew]

eh, those are the 2 most difficult hours when you have very few resources and infrastructure, no blueprints, etc

[half atlas]

I am lazy

[south sinew]

so I think that's still reasonably valid

[half atlas]

I make rotor by hand

[hot mango]

if you use the advanced mode you can unlock all the alt recipes

before you start

[reef basin]

they are super easy, recipes have like 0 difficulty at that point lol

[south sinew]

the recipes have 0 difficulty, but I also have 0 automated power, 0 DDs, and even constructors and assemblers feel expensive to build

[reef basin]

only expensive if you don't automate

[south sinew]

meanwhile I'm just trying to rush to coal asap

automating more means more biomass power which is the exact thing I want to avoid

[reef basin]

well you're gonna have to do the automation anyway

so I don't see a reason to make my life harder by postponing it

[south sinew]

I'm gonna automate minimally until I have coal power at least, and cast screw reduces that

[reef basin]

cast screw is not much helpfull

[hard ivy]

Then don't avoid it. 20-30 biomass burners really isn't a lot. And with them, you can automate everything comfortably

[reef basin]

if you want gain for that, use stitched plate

[south sinew]

you're never going to convince me to build a single more biomass burner than I absolutely have to

it's painful enough to gather fuel for 10 of them

[reef basin]

I'm not trying to do that. I'm trying to say that stitched plates give you way more than cast screwws

[south sinew]

that was for the other guy ;p

[hard ivy]

Cast screws would've saved me a whole 6 constructors. And I fully automated everything. If you're avoiding automation, it saves like 2. It's a waste of a drive imo. Especially when stitched plates save more

[south sinew]

I'm not saying stitched plate is a bad alt or even not better

I just usually don't have that much copper in my start location compared to iron so I don't have that much experience with it

[reef basin]

iron wire

[south sinew]

yeah I've been thinking about using iron wire more

but so far I didn't get any runs with both iron wire and stitched plate as options in the early game

cast screw is nice because you only need 1 hard drive to use it

[reef basin]

and never use the recipe again

[hard ivy]

just get more drives? I always have both of these before coal

[south sinew]

eh

[reef basin]

so you need to get one more drive to get the things you want

[south sinew]

it's not that bad to have eliminated a recipe from the pool for future drives

[reef basin]

if you want that, keep in the the MAM

[south sinew]

I don't want that

or to be more clear, I don't want only that

cast screw is a mix of both; it's an alt I'll make use of here and now, and then a recipe eliminated for future, which is a tradeoff against holding two recipes I don't want

[hard ivy]

cast screws + steel screws is my favourite drive to keep in the library forever. right next to bolted plate + bolted frame

[strong fiber]

My rocket fuel plant is complete #screenshots if you wanna see it

[dim flint]

I feel like I need to hire a lumberjack to clear all the trees clipping through my train tracks.

[chilly atlas]

stupid pumps ;/ - in desert, got 1 extract, 2 pumps to get water from hole (with a fluid buffer in between - going to 3 coal generators and they keeps stop pumping water

[sullen gull]

Extractors only give 10m headlift. Maye need to move/add the pump closer

[silk ocean]

Where is it, links to another SS xD

[strong fiber]

Wdym

It works for me

[chilly atlas]

we got extractor -> pump -> buffer - and pump keeps stopping

[strong fiber]

Is the pipe full?

[silk ocean]

Not sure probably my potatobrain fails

[merry granite]

bolted iron plate? am i missing something on the wiki it looks like an objectively worse recipe

[chilly atlas]

the pipe next to the buffer is full... the file rate of the buffer has dropped to 0

[silk ocean]

Links to The Big Noot

[hard ivy]

yeah, that is why it's my favourite drive to keep in the library. all 4 of these recipes are trash

[strong fiber]

My rocket fuel plant is massive unlike yalls puny malnurished fuel plants

[sullen gull]

Also be aware that buffers can add to the amount of headlift required.

Try to remove the buffer first and see if that helps

[chilly atlas]

we put the buffer in to see if it would fix 🙂

before that, was two pumps

[hard ivy]

buffers (and valves) never fix anything

[merry granite]

oh okay, well i like and use cast screws a fair bit personally but yeah i didnt know alternate recipes could be objectively worse; bolted iron plate literally just costs more screws than base lmao

[strong fiber]

You need more headlift

[sullen gull]

Then most likely the first pump is not within ~8-10m of the extractors

[silk ocean]

Aura.. like again xD I am too old, I can't be a' scollin'. I reserve that behaviour for Reddit xD

[strong fiber]

Its at the bottom 😭

[silk ocean]

What moves up the top is gone forever xD

[strong fiber]

Its at the bottom tho

[silk ocean]

Link xD

[strong fiber]

ion even know how to do that fr

[silk ocean]

Right click copy message etc etc xD

You have to cater for lazy asses like me XD

You took a cellphone photo.. Have you heard of Win+Shift+S

[strong fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1452074004629422151/62d2c034-3f65-430a-ac65-b7d121262b52.png?ex=69487ccc&is=69472b4c&hm=0aa9f0acd81690101ee4aae04b9e31ec94e86cf558f493093a40a2152668567a&

[strong fiber]

There u old head

[hard ivy]

but also, how is that image relevant to a pump?

[strong fiber]

We wasn’t talking about no pump

[chilly atlas]

and guessing you need some privs to be able to send a url

[strong fiber]

Thats not a url just an image

[fast ruin]

damn i'm racking my brain trying to make the casted screw ration work with smelters

and builder

[chilly atlas]

ok, i'll rephrase, i don't seem to be able to seend an image to this channel 🙂

[sullen gull]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 and post your images there for help

[strong fiber]

you cant

[sullen gull]

Use #screenshots for showing off.

[hard ivy]

nobody can. at least not directly

[teal geyser]

Keeps the chat clean

[strong fiber]

Except owners

Like the devs

But thats about it

[chilly atlas]

right, image @ https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1452074997425115323

[wind siren]

they keep saying clean but i do not think it means what they think it means 😄

[teal geyser]

I meant more like regular chat channels get spammed with images/videos, so they wanted to filter it out somehow

[wind siren]

sure sure, ruin my inconceivable ref 😛

[reef basin]

the only channel with disabled images perms is this one

[dim flint]

I wonder how hard it would be to make the game accept a bidirectional transit train station.

[reef basin]

depends what do you mean by that

[dim flint]

I have the transit station mod (soo good), but the trains still go way out of the way to enter the "correct" direction, which for my monorail is a moot point.

[dim flint]

I just want the auto path finding to consider either direction valid.

Everything works fine manually.

[reef basin]

yeah, that isn't happening. But you can put two stations on ends and name each differently to allow trains to come from both directions afaik

[dim flint]

Why isn't that happening? Seems like actually a pretty simple thing.

[weak epoch]

hey is it normal literally every ore deposit in the desert area is impure

[dim flint]

every map is the same.

[wind siren]

there's several pures out there

[weak epoch]

so am i bad at finding stuff

[reef basin]

because the front engine is the one doing the pathfinding

[dim flint]

desert has a lot of node density, just not super high quality.

[dim flint]

Front engine?

[reef basin]

the first one in direction of train travel

[dim flint]

I'm just saying that a station could advertise itself as having two directions.

[reef basin]

that'd mess up with the train car order anyway

[dim flint]

It would obviously have to be an extension to the Transit Station mod.

[strong fiber]

The dune desert has the most pures on the map thats crazy u only find impures

[reef basin]

and since trains never repath, there's not much use of allowing the station to be approached from both directions

[dim flint]

That's fine. You cannot attach cargo/fluid bays to the transit station.

[dim flint]

There's an obvious use case for it when you're building a monorail.

[reef basin]

not sure wdym by "monorail" given that monorail is the track we have 😄

[dim flint]

My entire main rail line is 3 tracks. 2 for directional routes, with cargo. 1 for a bidriectional passenger line.

I use the Transit Stations mod (one of the few mods I use) to easily attach stations to the top "monorail"

But because the game still treats it as directional, sometimes I will go through the station I'm trying to get to and all the way to the next rotary to turn around and come back.

For my directional lines, I design them with some space to allow either direction to come and go. But the idea of the Transit Station is that it's just the size of a normal track, so you can add them anywhere.

[reef basin]

place two, name them e.g. S/N or E/W

[dim flint]

Not ideal, but maybe it's the best I can do. I'd love to see how hard this would be in the modding.

[reef shuttle]

Des français pour jouer ?

[reef basin]

english only server #rules

[teal geyser]

🤪

[silk ocean]

greeny made the best website

SFTools is the boss

[fiery pewter]

Greeny made STools?

I didn't know that

[silk ocean]

Yep

Scroll down

[digital holly]

Finally found out how to climb down a ladder in the game

[fiery pewter]

Honest, I keep forgetting to

[digital holly]

go to the ladder and turn your back to the ladder, then look straight forward and press and hold your walk back key

then you will grip the ladder without falling

[fiery pewter]

I just jump down

[fiery pewter]

Catch the ladder along the way

[digital holly]

i miss that sometimes and then still break the pioneers back 😉

[fiery pewter]

The humble landing pad:

[real shale]

god i am tired, i was reading up on the math behind dna capsule couple points and read cost(n) as cos(n) and i was like what, where is there trigonometry here

[shy mulch]

most people here can't even divide properly, imagine the chaos if there was trig going on

[silk ocean]

Most people here can't do basic math, let alone divide xD

[real shale]

i unfortunately cannot relate

[shy mulch]

hey guys i have a machine making 30 per minute, but i need 60 per minute, omg this is too hard, can someone help

[silk ocean]

Not sure if stuck on a console or just can't write floats xD

[real shale]

as an engineer i've seen things not even god would like to witness

[shy mulch]

my fave is 22/7

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah ask him why it doesn’t calculate nuclear right.

[real shale]

double it and give it to the next person

[nimble jungle]

i want to transport 2 items with a drone from one spot to another, how can i ensure, that one of these items always gets through. One item is mass produced, and would normally flood the drone. But i have to ensure that the slowly productet item gets through

[shy mulch]

i did electronic engineering at university, the mathematics part would make most peoples heads spin, im sure you've seen just as bad

[real shale]

ive seen doors get opened that can no longer be closed

[shy mulch]

2 drones

[silk ocean]

My tech support life would be so much easier if consoles didn't exist xD Probably mostly because PC attracts intelligent people. Console attracts morons

[shy mulch]

I wouldn't categorise it quite like that

[silk ocean]

Have you dealt with my parents? xD

[real shale]

yes

[shy mulch]

I'd say consoles attract casual gamers, and people with only a passing interest. PCs attract gamers who are a lot more committed to the games. The level of commitment and the level of understanding are clearly correlated. It's not that console players know less because they are necessarily less intelligent, they know less because they have no interest in knowing more

[silk ocean]

Typical phone call with a fam PC user -> open firewall.cpl and show me the ruke
Typical phone call with a XBox user --> open firewall.cpl and show me the ruke.. "What is a cat?"

[shy mulch]

why would an xbox user be opening firewall.cpl ?

[silk ocean]

I have no idea xD

[reef basin]

to brick their xbox

[shy mulch]

with great power comes great responsibility

[silk ocean]

I'll take responsibility over power

[shy mulch]

build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day
set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life

[silk ocean]

67% of my time is dealing with consoles

[shy mulch]

why would you put yourself through that

[limpid hazel]

you need to have the receiving side empty out the high throughput item, if you can't sink it/use it on that end then you need two drones

[silk ocean]

33 years has led me to desperation

• Valve Corp has been instrumental
• Consoles should not exist - XBOX runs winsows 11
• Sony, through nixxes have made some of the best PC port ever
  Consoles should not exist

If you can't say that nixxes aren't the best PC port studio ever made, take some pills bro xD

[weak epoch]

Hey what are the spots on the map with the most purple power slugs?

[silk ocean]

Nixxes has been instrumental. When Sony Int.. bro it has been a good time Ghost, Horizon. FF.. It has been good

[nimble jungle]

just started nuclear reactor, what do i do with the waste

[dense violet]

just the awkward to reach spots

[silk ocean]

Nixxes and Sony have been the best thing that has come to Triple-A video gaming in recent years

[weak epoch]

Alright, I'll take a look where I don't want to then

[dense violet]

honestly if you just sloop your slugs just grab whatever slugs you find laying around, you'll get lots

[weak epoch]

Yea issue is just the first couple ones because the somersloop doesnt count

[dense violet]

sloop something else first. or use a blue slug that are absolutely everywhere

but having 1 non slooped slug, at worst, is worth the cost of slooping all the rest

[weak epoch]

Oh I can sloop something else and then change recipes?

[dense violet]

it should

[weak epoch]

Alright

[dense violet]

but there's enoiugh slugs on the map for 5000 shards, you'll be fine

[teal geyser]

Eat it

[nimble jungle]

but srsly, it doesnt really make sense to start with nuclear power until i can do smth with it right?

[dense violet]

wdym 'do something with it' ?

the waste?

[nimble jungle]

i can later use the waste to craft plutonium right?

[dense violet]

you can - but you can also store it forever. Build a large storage facility with blueprints

[dense violet]

imo the best use of plutonium rods is to sink it or use it as drone/truck fuel

[hexed phoenix]

Last i did Nuclear - I just had a super storage, to hold about 2 days of Waste, then eventually you'd be ready to use the Waste to produce next tier Fuel rods :)

[dense violet]

use a mk3 blueprint of connected up storages and you could build a storage for 10,000hrs pretty fast

[limpid hazel]

relative to how much waste you're generating

[dense violet]

even doing max uranium it's not hard

[hexed phoenix]

Would low key be a funny way to handle waste - just have a million Factory Carts with a route that expands the entire map, and just have them randomly drive around the map :D

[dense violet]

that's one way to make mobile storage

[limpid hazel]

max uranium generates 2520 waste per minute which fills a big buffer in just 9 minutes

[dense violet]

You can fit a lot of them in a blueprint , and you can spam blueprints fast

[limpid hazel]

10000 hours would require 66,666.666 (repeating) big storages

1,333,333.3333 (repeating) steel beams/pipes to manufacture said storages

[hard ivy]

if you're doing max uranium, you might as well recycle the waste atp

[abstract heron]

10k hrs?

[dense violet]

ok? a mk3 bp can hold a lot of containers.

[limpid hazel]

it can't hold that many

[dense violet]

... that's why it's a blueprint. It's something you build a lot of ...

[hexed phoenix]

But with auto connect you can spam them quiet easy if made correctly

[abstract heron]

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM i did a thing

[limpid hazel]

shuffling 1 million steel into your inventory is going to be the main thing that takes time, obviously

[dense violet]

you can also move a train filled to the gills with it.

all you're showing right now is that you can't come up with simple solutions to basic building problems

[hexed phoenix]

Anyway.. as said, if the goal is to maximize the Uranium for maximum effort.. Then I'd probably have the Plutonium and Ficsonium production made as well so I don't have to handle the waste storage..

[limpid hazel]

you can only fit 216 big containers in a single mk3 blueprint

[dense violet]

why have ficsonium in the first place? save yourself some trouble

[limpid hazel]

sure, 308 blueprints isn't the end of the world, but it's still not nothing, especially compared to managing 1.3 million each of steel beams and pipes

or just unlocking plutonium

[hexed phoenix]

Can u sink it? (I honeslty havn't tried, i made the production in my last save where I did Nuclear as i assumed it wasn't sinkable)

[limpid hazel]

all I'm showing is that storing 10000 hours of maximum uranium waste is not a good use of time

[dense violet]

you can sink plutonium rods yes 🙂

that was basically the entire reason they were added to teh game.

because lots of people didn't want to engage with the nuclear system with permanent waste

[hexed phoenix]

Meh well - I dont waste :D - I had Uranium, Plutonium and Ficsonium production running 🙈

[dense violet]

and imo ficsonium was introduced because fools couldnt stop themselves from burning P rods and bitched about permanent waste

[hexed phoenix]

Honestly - if the measurement is 10.000 hours of waste.. You could might as well just make it 1 billion hours.. Because i would bet that 99% would have quit before that point anyway..

[real shale]

or just dead

[dense violet]

I've done 3500hrs so far total - once I start a massive project I could see myself doing 5k in a map

but yeah the 10k hours was a big number to essentially say 'permanent solution to waste'

most people I'm sure could do a 2,000 hour waste system and be tooooottallly fine

[limpid hazel]

it's way faster to unlock plutonium and make 10000 hours storage for that, max is only 244

[dense violet]

probably 1,000 hrs would suit the vast majority of people tbh

[limpid hazel]

you only need a dozen or so storage cubes

[hexed phoenix]

Can see i really low balled it - By saying 2-3 days of ingame time of storage - to give you time to setup a production line for recycling the waste :D

[dense violet]

well depending on how you design things and how fancy you get 72hrs might not be enough time to set up recycling

I've spent 250hrs on a fuel station before

[charred canopy]

Is there a way to freeplace on foundations? Instead of snapping?

[hexed phoenix]

Fuel station is also pain in the arse - because you're working with marginal numbers per machine compared to input - so utilizing just 600 Crude Oil / Minute with a proper fuel setup, gives you quiet a setup of buildings and generators - So can easily imagine it can escalate quiet much

[grizzled lotus]

realizing this game will stop overwhelming you if you just enjoy the little steps you take to solve whatever problem you have

[silent heron]

Do fluid buffers cancel out up stream head lift?

[dense violet]

marginal numbers?

[dense violet]

fluid buffers reset healift and provide variable headlift on the output

[dense violet]

generally just don't use them

[silent heron]

Ahhh I see

That explains it

Thank you :D

[dense violet]

in general the only real place that need fluid buffers are train platforms, otherwise just don't put them places, they won't help at best and cause flow issues at worst

[silent heron]

Ahh ye, I see

[hexed phoenix]

Might be phrased wrong :)

I don't know which fuel type it was, if its just regular Fuel or Turbo Fuel ect..

But if you just take 600 Crude Oil / Min and convert into regular Fuel using HOR and Diluted Fuel recipe - you're looking at roughly 100 buildings - and thats without having setup any Fuel Generators yet..

So my point was that you're setting up quiet a lot of buildings to make Fuel setup :)

Naturally overclocking will reduce the count alot

[dense violet]

ah right sure.
my 250hrs though was entirely because of how I was building xD

Was learning how to do weird things. I culd rebuild it now in 50hrs or less now though I think

[hexed phoenix]

Yeah designing and planning takes time :D

[dense violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1422083401111965697/image.png?ex=6948259f&is=6946d41f&hm=0ec057e80a369609351e5af726a66cf6ea5a5ea2b12baf92c09b94fbb81eb04d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=330

very little planning - just a lot of fiddling

[hexed phoenix]

Stuff like that is above my paygrade of architecture :D - I don't have the patient to design that, but its hecka pretty when done

[glass pagoda]

Yo that's cool you did that?

[dense violet]

everyone likes different things about the game 🙂

[dense violet]

yeah, got into curved builds ages ago. Was my first try

[glass pagoda]

How do you make curves

[sick falcon]

how much faster is it to transport fluids packaged in trains vs in fluid cars

[leaden turret]

• some people like how it lets them have fun
• some weird people like how it lets them do sushi belting
• some weirder people like to shit upon how others have fun

[dense violet]

depends on what the end goal is. A lot of times I just pick one of hte vanilla methods, but for complext stuff a mod

[dense violet]

both are basically the same

[dense violet]

though it's often easier to design teh system that needs the fluids to use it on location

[primal obsidian]

with packaged though you have to loop the canisters right?

[dense violet]

the cars can carry 2x as much in 1 car, but you need a 2nd car to bring back the empties, yeah

[primal obsidian]

ok

[hard ivy]

about 2x for liquids if you do it right

[primal obsidian]

i just do fluid cars no packaging so i dont have to deal with looping the canisters

[spiral summit]

for christ sake is there a way to stop the nudge being done at an angle with stuff like blueprints

[dense violet]

Nitrogen Gas is the exception though, gas compresses 4x in cannisters and gasses really don't play well with the buffers

[glass pagoda]

And some super weird people use the world grid in every build

[leaden turret]

nah, sushi belters are weirder 😛

[hard ivy]

You can use a second station to bypass the need for a second set of wagons for the empties. Then you get 2x capacity, but lose some throughput for the additional 1 minute of loading/unloading. But you can gain that back and more thanks to "depart when empty/full", which is impossible to use with fluids. So it usually ends up being 2x for liquids, 4x for rocket and ionized fuel (if you for some reason choose to transport them via train) and 8x for nitrogen

[abstract heron]

i might need to touch grass if i have dis hrs total

i got 18khr on TOTAL on Satisfactory

[leaden turret]

there's non-plastic canister alts, so you can sink the canisters instead of looping them without having to worry about oil

[glass pagoda]

I got 200 and cuz i like to explore im only now starting to finish teir 3

[glass pagoda]

Why would you want to swim where fish pee

[primal obsidian]

only tier 3 thats like... phase 1 or 2

[leaden turret]

what does sinking canisters have to do with swimming?

[glass pagoda]

I tried them. If you use the right type of sushi belt its good for certain things

[glass pagoda]

I mean phase 3

[leaden turret]

so is the right type of chocolate fireguard useful as a fireguard

[glass pagoda]

Bros doing the last thing he said Is weirder

[primal obsidian]

200 hrs in and i havent spent a single hr in singlplayer

[glass pagoda]

I love single player but nuking people seems fun

[civic ferry]

Just got my big box collection! SOOOO worth it! The little factory cart build set is so cute!

[primal obsidian]

tried sushi belt and it shutdown nuclear

do not reccomend

[zealous urchin]

"i made a bad plan and it failed" hmmm

[primal obsidian]

what

[civic ferry]

i have over 1000hours in and only have anout 2 hours in multiplayer

[spiral summit]

i attempted multiplayer then realised i cant do it with infinite nudge

literally 1984

[zealous urchin]

infinite nudge terrorist

[primal obsidian]

what does infinite nudge do

[zealous urchin]

i confused it with infinite zoop but nudge can be ridiculous xD

[spiral summit]

infinite nudge poses the ficsit banned technology known as "rotating foundations and walls on the other axis"

[dim flint]

Stations are twice as long now, but at least I didn't need to fork them or anything. I can place the stations inline and this works well enough.

[sullen gull]

As well as being able to nudge in smaller increments

[teal geyser]

What was on your sushi belt that shut your nuclear down?

[sullen gull]

Rolls Sashimi

[bronze heart]

#screenshots message guys what you tink

[teal geyser]

In your second screenshot, what do you have all mashed together in that cube?

[bronze heart]

oh thats just power lines

i need power for the factory yk

[sullen gull]

But need nowhere near that many power ~~lines ~~ poles....

[bronze heart]

why not

[teal geyser]

Must be a meme thing he was doing

[real shale]

of course he needs that many power poles

[bronze heart]

my friend is making more

[real shale]

also i love how THAT is what we are picking out of this screenshot

not the space elevator sitting on the mountain in the background LOL

or everything else in the background lmao

[bronze heart]

lol

#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

The closer to the sky, the faster the production! Don'tcha know!?!

[zealous urchin]

what if its turned upside down?

[bronze heart]

wanna see what we call the rats nest

[real shale]

i love the floating foundations as well just vibing there next to the space elevator

[last tartan]

yeowch

i've had my game running for 9 hours

I haven't played for more than 6 of them

[bronze heart]

#screenshots message

the rats nest

[real shale]

somehow looks better than all of my factories that are just... boxes

[last tartan]

you and I both boss

[bronze heart]

the mining area is even worse

[teal geyser]

I don't even wall in my factories lol

[real shale]

i am constantly complaining "its too damn dark in here" as i refuse to put any lights in my dark boxes

[bronze heart]

why do boxes

why do your machines need to be enclosed there isnt any outside elements

[sullen gull]

tHERE iS sNOw!

Opps to caps, but leaving it 😛

[bronze heart]

what about it

machine dont care

[grizzled lotus]

when a recipe says "8 per minute" do I multiply that by the number on the output? Or is tht included?

[hard stump]

Ok so help me out here. 2 trains on 1 track it’s possible to make only 1 train turn and go to a station and pick up an item while the other ignores it and continues on the main line correct?

[grizzled lotus]

for example, a recipe says 7 circuit boards, and then the production rate says 8 per minute. does that mean I should multiply 8 by 7?

[bronze heart]

idk connect conveyors until it works

go for it'

[teal geyser]

Left side is input, right side is output. The only number that really matters is the parts/minute number. In your case it would be 8/minute

[last tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1452120389395419292

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message I found this recipe so I'm guessing it's a very good one

[compact flicker]

Some people like that one, I prefer electrode circuits

[grizzled lotus]

looks way better than the default recipe, and honestly I got it in time

I'm about to automate computers and just realized how much I need circuit boards, so I was goign to build a mega-factory just for circuit boards

[compact flicker]

Mega factory =/= large factory

[zealous urchin]

base circujt is good too lol

[teal geyser]

What about Steamed Copper Sheets + Silica = Circuit Boards?

[dim flint]

Wait... there are milestones after P5?

[grizzled lotus]

semantics. but yeah I mean just a big factory to feed other stuff

[honest sleet]

chat

guess who just beat the game

[sullen gull]

Your sister?

[honest sleet]

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[grizzled lotus]

I guess so, but base recipe is 7/min while the caterium one -I think- is like 48?

[dim flint]

how much power you got?

[honest sleet]

dying

[compact flicker]

Congrats Ecplipse

[grizzled lotus]

what d'you know? #screenshots message

[honest sleet]

now i do a modded playthrough (:<

[compact flicker]

I like that one because its just an oil node

[grizzled lotus]

yeah, I noticed. man searching for other nodes is such a PAIN

[dim flint]

I don't see the appeal in starting over.

[compact flicker]

Are you using the resource scanner?

[grizzled lotus]

yeah lol

it's just the range is kind of limited, and I'm looking for pute nodes for copper. with this recipe I'll just find a normal caterium node

[compact flicker]

A lot of people forget about it :p

[grizzled lotus]

didn't know that was possible

[keen oriole]

please advise me which to choose::

encased industrial steel beam / iron alloy ingot / reroll?

[grizzled lotus]

I mean, forgetting about the scanner

[grizzled lotus]

screen shot?

[keen oriole]

#screenshots message

[grizzled lotus]

eh. I don't know. the iron alloy ingot is useless since iron ingots are easy. the only question is is the recipe on the left better than the default?

[silent heron]

The alt recipes for plastic and rubber look like they double the yeild when you refine the polymer into rubber/plastic, is this as it looks?

[keen oriole]

ok. well it's so much like the default. it's only a little more or less efficient. but I can get something that might use a different ingredient in a way that could be truly convenient.

thanks that's helpful advice I think I'll reroll

[hard stump]

Ok so help me out here. 2 trains on 1 track it’s possible to make only 1 train turn and go to a station and pick up an item while the other ignores it and continues on the main line correct?

[grizzled lotus]

not sure if I understand your question, but you can set a time table for trains. the time table programs them so that they only go to the stations you choose

[hard stump]

Was just trying to make sure if 2 trains shared the same track I can tell one train to go left into a station while the other stayed on the main rail network

[grizzled lotus]

yes. if you set the time tables right

for example, you can set one station to go to Station A - B - C, and the other train A - C

[silent heron]

Disregard this entire sentence, im goofy

[hard stump]

Ok well another stupid question. Would it be possible to have it use an empty freight car.
So at 1 station I have it picking up 3 items. But would like it to go to another station to pick up 1 item. Would prefer if the items didn’t share the same car

[grizzled lotus]

I believe so, but I think that requires setting up the train stations right

[ocean frost]

Encased is really good

[grizzled lotus]

the locomotive will always stop at the train station itself, so you have to set up the right freight platforms with the rigth freight cars

[ocean frost]

Honestly I wouldn't pick it until I needed it

[last tartan]

Thank you FICSMAS, for giving me 50 hog protein. I can finally make inhalers!

[ocean frost]

Yes

[last tartan]

we need agriculture in satisfactory

I want to see a giant field of beryl nuts

[sullen gull]

Mod called Ficsit Farming (I think) exists.

[last tartan]

aw shoot, I ought to figure out how to integrate mods into vanilla

[sullen gull]

Just download the Mod Manager from ficsit.app. Very easy.

[last tartan]

sweet

[robust brook]

HELP

[sullen gull]

#1038092680493801533

[coarse rivet]

Anybody know why my train isn't unloading? It has full cargo and is set to unload at this station but it just sits here and does nothing

[sullen gull]

Is there power to it? Is the freight platform full?

[coarse rivet]

Yes and the freight platform has nothing in it

i would post a picture but i guess i left this server at one point so im too new to do that

[limpid hazel]

No, you just can't post them in this channel.

[coarse rivet]

oh

[bronze heart]

#screenshots message new addition!

[coarse rivet]

hmm wait i might have a solution

[keen oriole]

i see ok!

[teal geyser]

If you are still having problems, you could make a post in #1038092680493801533 and you can upload all the screenshots in there. Better diagnosis abbility in that channel

[coarse rivet]

Oh my god

theres an unload/load button

[fast ruin]

i just finished my new iron production factory (just need to power with wire and set up the manufactors). Does anybody has a good recommendation on how to not make my factory look like "just a block"?

[coarse rivet]

facepalm and a half

[limpid hazel]

so it was not in fact set to unload

[sick falcon]

that’s annoying, fluid cars are so much cooler

[teal geyser]

"Just a block" meaning that you put walls around it?

[fast ruin]

yes

i tried putting windows and changing material/color on my last factory but it still looked like a brick

[limpid hazel]

you have to physically make it not a brick, if it's a brick it's always going to look like a brick

[teal geyser]

Have you tried using pillars to spice things up on the outside?

[limpid hazel]

most people who care favor making "walls" out of foundations so it's easier to play with depth

[coarse rivet]

I thought you meant the timetable, mb

[fast ruin]

i ahven't unlocked all the wall yet

[limpid hazel]

they are cool, and it's legal to use them. idk why people always get hung up on the theoretically better throughput of packaged fluids. how much fluid are you even shipping? 300/m per car is good enough and gives you period arrival times of 5 minutes.

you can ship both fluid and gas this way and nobody can stop you

[teal geyser]

The fear of potential headlift issues stops me from using fluid cars

[limpid hazel]

there are no issues, stations act like every other fluid producer

#screenshots message break the conditioning (this is gas though)

[fast ruin]

i'm working with that #screenshots message

[limpid hazel]

I found no reason to ship liquid other than a little bit of fuel

[fast ruin]

there was even a big rock in the middle that i managed to build around

[limpid hazel]

well, not making it a cube is a good start to not making it look like a cube

but, idk, to me, personally, using walls as exterior walls does usually end up looking flatter than I'd like. I think it's pretty hard to make anything that looks good on that kind of scale using walls.

unless you spend a lot of time with beams and signs adding more details that the walls don't provide

[fast ruin]

i'l try but when i see some people literally making a necron monolith, my factory look terrible

[limpid hazel]

they're usually a lot bigger than that

[primal obsidian]

uhhh

nuclear waste and silica so maybe it was my fault

[limpid hazel]

scale matters a lot, you can add way more detail with these huge parts when it's bigger

you have to use fiddly stuff like beams when it's that small

it's all relative

me, I give up on building walls at all ☺️

[primal obsidian]

floating concrete square for the win

[lost rapids]

🥲

[limpid hazel]

I connect them to the ground at least! Mostly.

[teal geyser]

Yikes

[primal obsidian]

wow you're so sophisticated i could never

it worked for a while like 1hr before my stack of storages filled with nuclear waste

then i rebuilt nuclear at a larger scale and used trains instead of drones

[surreal lion]

Honestly trying to build a train system is difficult to learn

[primal obsidian]

ugh my ambition is bottlenecked by my willpower how do i fix this

[dense violet]

keep them simple 🙂
2 lanes, stations off to the side, block signals. Basically all you need for the infrastructure

[surreal lion]

well the thing is the way i built it is a bit complex

[dense violet]

anything in this game can be really complex if you make it that way 🙂

but simple is always an option

[surreal lion]

yeaaaa lol can i send a screenshot of what it looks like?

[dense violet]

if you like

there's a whole channel for it

[limpid hazel]

controlled substances

[surreal lion]

where is it? so i dont accidently post in the wrong spot

[dense violet]

the channel named screenshots

[real shale]

Medicinal inhalers?

[limpid hazel]

oh yeah 👁️ 👅 👁️

[surreal lion]

alright i posted it

[dense violet]

trains never change the route the ytake, so you can't make wait areas

[limpid hazel]

this is not a thing that will work in this game without mods

[surreal lion]

ripppp

[dense violet]

you're also better off keeping it to 1 train per station most of the time

[surreal lion]

that would explain why the constantly queue behind eachother

[dense violet]

platforms have limited throughput

[surreal lion]

so instead of a queue yard should i make a single line that queues behind it?

[dense violet]

well as I just mentioned, you really don't want a ton of trains stopping at the same station

[surreal lion]

oooh okay

[limpid hazel]

why not, you can totally do that. i have up to nine trains stopping at the same station. as long as you set it up so that one is queued behind another before it takes off the spacing stays fine.

[dense violet]

1. Platforms have limited throughput, so unless each train is dropping off a small fraction of 1 belt per platform in throughput you'll choke them out

2. every time a train docks it locks out throughput for 27 seconds, reducing the throughput potential of all the platforms

[limpid hazel]

this is what the load/unload AND WAIT X SECONDS is used for

trainpacing

[primal obsidian]

this is what i mean #screenshots message

[nova oriole]

Quick question guys:
I'm planning my first megafactory, is there anywhere I should know before I go into it?

[dense violet]

so lets say you have 5 trains stopping at the train station in a 5 mintue period . that's 5x27 secon lock outs.

so in that 5 minute span, you only have 2.5 minutes of througphut

[primal obsidian]

use trains

[limpid hazel]

why would you ever do that, even a 1200/m ore car only needs to arrive every 2 minutes

[dense violet]

1. have you completed all the phases at least once before and do you have everything unlocked?
2. are you working from a totally planned end goal for it?

[limpid hazel]

spacing the trains using the wait function and queuing 1 of them prevents this

[nova oriole]

No I have not unlocked every single phase at least once, this is my second run, in both I got to almost tier 3.
I'm just planning a huge building that produces a ton of stuff.
I planned already most of it and checked the numbers for production for the endgame.

[dense violet]

ok do yo ucare if it's efficienjt and not a giant mess?

[nova oriole]

Yes, definitely, I'm planning to build different floors and have all the products end in one giant area

[dense violet]

ok then my advice is: don't

the first time you build a big system is a different challenge and won't turn out like you expect. You really need to plan out logistical layouts

the second big issue you have is tacking on new processes once you unlock them

it's a difficult challenge for experienced players who have unlocked everything and working to a specific goal

I'd try a large factory first with a dedicated end goal and multiple steps. Like ... 100 super computers pm. See how that goes for you. And once you unlock everything, make a total plan and plan every step

NOW. If you don't care about effciency or looks and happy to just slap things together? ... east swamp has everything you need nearby?

[limpid hazel]

100 supercomputers per minute is an insane goal bruh

[nova oriole]

I don't even know what those are lmao

I thought it would've been fine especially since the raw materials list is not even that absurd

[dense violet]

just keep unlocking the tiers 🙂 if you like sand box games treat the milestones like a really good tutorial

[limpid hazel]

you're looking at tapping the entire map of caterium and making fused quickwire to do that

[dense violet]

it gets absurd fast having everything in one spot w/o a dedicated plan

[limpid hazel]

the biggest problem with megabases is the framerate

[nova oriole]

I think I might've misused the term megafactory then cause I do NOT need that much quickwire😭

[dense violet]

well the term is vague - usuaslly it's 'making everythign in one spot'

[nova oriole]

Oh Jesus Christ no I'm not doing that

[limpid hazel]

semantics are so evil

[dense violet]

brb

[nova oriole]

I'm doing one factory for:
Tier 3 required items
IA connectors
Computers
And stuff like that

I just decided to smash it all in one building since I got other factories near that

Is that not what a megafactory is?

[dense violet]

ok then, yeah make a dedicated plan in like Satisfactory tools, sort out your basic resources, then scout out a location 🙂

depending on teh recipes you use your needs could be VERY different

[limpid hazel]

certain people in this room will argue with you about what a megafactory is for six hours straight

[nova oriole]

Got the modeler already thanks to the recommendation of a nice bloke here

Also this is the raw materials list

Iron ore: 1 080 /min
Coal: 480 /min
Copper ore: 720 /min
Caterium ore: 300 /min
Quartz: 200 /min
Crude oil: 600 m³/min

I assumed this much stuff would qualify as a megafactory, apparently I was mistaken

[limpid hazel]

👶 factory

[dense violet]

I'd really suggest https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

it's faster and modeler is more of a layout tool
you can swap out recipes much faster and change the system to see the changes

[meager kiln]

is using rocket fuel for drones good? or better to use batteries?

[nova oriole]

Then I misused the term, my bad

[limpid hazel]

every factory is a megafactory if it's the biggest one you've ever made

[nova oriole]

It would be the biggest one I ever made

Especially since I barely ever worked on multiple floors

And this one would have a decent amount of them

[nova oriole]

Thanks 🙏
I've tried to give it a look but it's a bit confusing, I'll try to dive into it better tomorrow

[dense violet]

it takes a little learning but is super worth it

[dim flint]

No way... is the max height of the elevator really 196m?

[limpid hazel]

I think it's better to find optimal resource/recipe use given certain constraints, but acttually planning all your factories is way easier in modeler...

[nova oriole]

Hello there mate

[dim flint]

hey

[nova oriole]

I got it thanks to this dude right here

[limpid hazel]

since modeler doesn't have a solver... they're really two completely different tools

[sullen gull]

I mean? How isn't it a "solver"? You mean in the way of automagically making the full chain using some sort of algorithm to determine the "most efficient"? Otherwise, if all one need is numbers, machines required, items, etc, then Modeler does that very well. Also with the ability to toy with clock rates to get whole numbers of machines, etc.

[limpid hazel]

that is literally what a solver is

modeler models, calculator solves

[grizzled lotus]

try posting in #screenshots

[grizzled lotus]

apparently not. production rate is production rate

@compact flicker I should've picked the other recipe

[compact flicker]

Its one of my favourites for a reason :p

[grizzled lotus]

I thought the difference in production was significant, but it wasn't

[tranquil lantern]

I've been playing Satisfactory since June 2021 and I just today finally Saved the Day.

[zealous urchin]

[surreal lion]

in screenshots is that alright to do?

[abstract heron]

wow i can't find number 21 on the ficmas calender

nvm i did

[sick falcon]

what does signal loops into itself mean

[fast summit]

its generic

either signals are too close- tracks arnt connected correctly (id hold the block signal and make sure theres a different color between every block) or there is no signal after that one

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message so its likely bc i havent finished the third track?

[fast summit]

likely, yes. otherwise the rails might not be "snapping" correctly and need replaced

[silk ocean]

Have you made xmas cards lately... I can't write. I haven't written for years

[fast summit]

sometimes the signals dont attatch to the junctions or the rails correctly. sometimes just picking things up and putting them down gets it fixed

but id put all your block signals down first, then troubleshoot

add a little more rail and put another block signal and it should push the error down the track

[sick falcon]

turns out the bottom 2 ones were just a matter of picking up and putting down

how do path signals differ from blocks anyways

[silk ocean]

Just reconnect and blueprints totally suck in Satis... This ain't Factorio xD

[fast summit]

nice, glad to hear

[sick falcon]

cant you make self replicating factories in factorio with blueprints or something

[fast summit]

path signals will check intersecting rails in the block and make sure the trains wont run into each other if they go- so you can have a left turning train and a right turning train across from each other and both can go instead of just one

[silk ocean]

Probably, someone went to the end of the world

[fast summit]

also-

never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever put intersections at the top of hills without like 3-4 train lengths before it.

if they are laden with cargo they WILL NOT get enough power to go up the hill. and sadly, sticking an extra locomotive at the back (like irl) wont fix it

they will get stuck and clog everything

[sick falcon]

does the game calculate train weight? or is it just the number of cars

[silk ocean]

I love Satisfac but Factorio literally destroys it with blueprinting, even the copy/paste system makes satisfac look like a basic lego toy

[dense violet]

it does.

[dense violet]

factorio is also garbage, so there's a big trade off

also , a completely different game

the concept of automation is about the only thing they have in common

[fast summit]

it does. i have a train thats 5 cars long. when its laden with empty fluid bottles it will get stopped on an up-hill track, before an intersection, get the green light, slide backwards from releasing the breaks and try to go forward, but the power will get to the max 110mw and fail to generate enough horsepower to go up... i have to manually take the inventory of the first car to get it rolling again

[silk ocean]

Why is it garb

[dense violet]

all of it. The whole idea of it.

[fast summit]

grabs the pitch forks and tiki torches
yeeeaaa different game thats similar is bad

[compact flicker]

Just add another engine to it :p

[dense violet]

different game that is different is bad

[fast summit]

it doesnt work? i tried...

[dense violet]

like, it's substantially different

[silk ocean]

One of the most successful and optimizsed video games in history? Yeah bro....

[compact flicker]

Afaik it should, thats odd

[zealous urchin]

fucktoriyo

[fast summit]

ill check again but

[dense violet]

I don't want a solved efficiency tower defense game. It's boring.

[zealous urchin]

also good morning chat

[fast summit]

lets play: "who lives in the EU" ;P

[zealous urchin]

u can have good evening

or good night

[fast summit]

lol thanks, just poking fun

[silk ocean]

Gato

[zealous urchin]

we have unfinished busines 🎅

[silk ocean]

Yes xD

[zealous urchin]

i think thats fair point

factorio is solved

[silk ocean]

WHen you come back

Where do you even live XD

It's 05:30... the only time

[zealous urchin]

i told you

i sleep just as weird as u

[silk ocean]

Central America?

[edgy hedge]

I don't get why my train isn't working. I have a single section of track with a station at each end. Cargo at each end and a train with two locos.
Just says Station is Unreachable

[zealous urchin]

we were having a talk yesterday about it 👀

[silk ocean]

Poland?