satisfactory

[feral jay]

(I'll see myself out now)

[robust nova]

havent allocated the areas for what that is all going to yet, but the factory will produce 12,500 copper ingot /hr and 7500 quickwire

[feral jay]

It's been a good long while since I was at that level of production

Heavn't ventured very far out of the rocky desert this save yet

Actually, going this hardcore on 100% production helped me identify a valve that I left on a pipe network that was fucking things up

Even though the valve was theoretically set correctly and all the oil extractors were producing enough, the valve was screwing things up

And hey if I don't start with a flat power graph, it'll become impossible later on

[robust nova]

its gonna take me a long while to get to a stable grid. I have a lot of random small factories that are old and need to be brough down

[feral jay]

Sinking EVERYTHING helps

And even then, sinks don't have a constant power draw, so you need to set up buffers in front of them so you can disable all the sinks without backing up the factories they're connected to

[narrow canyon]

You calculate you numbers per hour?

[feral jay]

heh Sometimes I calculate it per day

[narrow canyon]

So he's only doing 208 ingots per minute in real numbers

[feral jay]

Yes. We should flog him and ridicule him, maybe slap him around a bit with a large trout

[white dawn]

Not-LEGO FICSIT cart is quite nice, fwiw! A couple of kind of weird build decisions, but overall a nice clean design. There's one or two bits which I think I'll probably have to glue, but overall I'm quite pleased. My greyhound was perhaps slightly less so ( #off-topic-media message )

[narrow canyon]

🍿

[white dawn]

(The main bit which I suspect'll need gluing is the bottom left blue "piping" on the outside; really doesn't want to stay attached super well)

[robust nova]

Do you not?

I figured that was kinda the whole point

[limpid hazel]

are you sure you aren't mixing up hours and minutes

those numbers per hour are like 1 hands worth of machines

[robust nova]

I posted a screenshot of my factory in screenshots. I have 364 refineries doing pure copper ingots.

[feral jay]

Sometimes I produce so much shit, I can't even calculate it by the second, it's too big of a number, so I need to calculate production per nanosecond

(And no I'm totally not lying about that)

[limpid hazel]

i think you might be mixing up hours and minutes

[narrow canyon]

Yea.. everything in game is measured in parts per minute

[robust nova]

37.5*364 = 13650

[zealous urchin]

thats cold

[limpid hazel]

per minute

[robust nova]

yes, so I was a little short

[feral jay]

Technically, everything is calculated in parts per clock tick. Parts per minute was a simplification I think that got added in update 3 or 4

[limpid hazel]

a teeny tiny bit

[feral jay]

Originally the game was all about things produced per how many cycles, but then "per cycle" got simplified to "per minute"

The difference being cycle time is different for different machines

[robust nova]

I should do train to deliver all the ingots, but I already have the truck stations set up and the whole fleet awaiting the rest of the road structure to go up

all the ore rather

[feral jay]

But that design principle is still there behind the scenes and knowing how the production calculations were first implemented does help in a lot of cases

[zealous urchin]

so you would manualy convert it to per minute still but just by urself

[upper saddle]

has anyone had issues with textures loading properly from close range?

[feral jay]

Players had to do that calculation manually

[upper saddle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1451422289710153869

[zealous urchin]

thats what i mean

[feral jay]

It becomes important to think about that when you're running pipes at full capacity, for example. It's not a bank of machines outputting 600 fluid per minute, it's a bank that averages 600 per minute, with each machine generally on a different cycle

[zealous urchin]

just skip pipe nonsense for today

[feral jay]

haha yes let's

[silk ocean]

pipe nonesense for saturdays

[feral jay]

But Saturday is for baking cookies and making maple candy

[silk ocean]

Set alarm 4am for plumbing work, make cookies at 9am

[zealous urchin]

feelign edgy today arent we

[feral jay]

Bruh that's too early to be making candy, that shit boils and burns and sticks and blisters

[silk ocean]

If I bake cookies it's always edgy

11am? xD

[feral jay]

That's late enough to have had my coffee, yes

[silk ocean]

Sunday is Plumbday? xD

[feral jay]

Sunday is a good day to tinker with plumbing issues, yes

Well not this Sunday, IRL xmas and all

[zealous urchin]

what a bloodless sacrifice to honor the archangel falling down

[robust nova]

this hypertube cannon is dumb as hell, worked once, now it wont run the cycle, just spits me out

[feral jay]

Isn't that what a tube cannon is supposed to do?

[silk ocean]

Done something wrong with it, screenie?

[silk ocean]

I dunno, plumbing could result in injury.. dem pipes aren't smol

[feral jay]

Hey I remember this spot, I had a massive copper plant here in a previous game

[robust nova]

its in the screenshot channel, not sure how to link it

[silk ocean]

I'll find it

[zealous urchin]

WHO LET YOU COOK

[silk ocean]

You kinda need to space them out - like an entrance, short piece of pipe, then another space, next entrance.. I'll take a SS

[real shale]

Coffee

[feral jay]

Stain

[silk ocean]

#screenshots message

[limpid hazel]

wow that's also the spot where I made my 13,500 copper sheet plant (plus a bunch of other stuff)

[real shale]

Hypertube junction cannon my beloved

[robust nova]

So it circles me around and accelrates. but it only worked once. Now when I get in it, i go around and it just spits me out, I cant get the speed up anymore

[real shale]

I have a Pioneer accelerator hypertube cannon

CERN ain't got nothing on me

[silk ocean]

I dunno if those entrances right ontop of eachother will work well, maybe

[teal geyser]

I just tried to sink my Boombox for some reason lol

[coral marsh]

Try spamming E if your on pc until you dont get spat out early

[robust nova]

i just ended up removing and replacing the exit

[brazen coral]

Got rocket fuel replacing my whole turbo fuel setup at least until I'm ready for nuclear power

Literally one overclocked blender. Well, it didn't even need to be overclocked at this point. Replaces all of my fuel generators supply, ridiculously more effective than turbo

[zealous urchin]

heresy

[teal geyser]

I was dumping some dismanted items from my inventory into my sink container and I had remembered that I had the boombox on me because I was listening to the FICSMAS casette tapes

[teal geyser]

UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!!

[brazen coral]

Essentially!

One overclocked blender for the rocket fuel alternate recipe replaces fuel for very very close to 36 generators overclocked

[robust nova]

I need 15 blenders for my power plant

[brazen coral]

It's like 35.98

Next step I guess would be ionized fuel

[zealous urchin]

😈

[limpid hazel]

noocklear

[silk ocean]

Nuclear is a bit of a rabbithole and very time consuming

Still not convinced it was worth it xD

[limpid hazel]

you have to exploit

[silk ocean]

It's a 250 GW plant with Plutonium and Ficsonium, which is pretty vast in size, and then there are about 6 large support factories around the world basically dedicated to the plant

Takes days of work XD

[zealous urchin]

if u needed just 250 kliks imo not worth

if u need half past mil then sure

[silk ocean]

It's not the only powerplant

[zealous urchin]

or when bored with fuel LIKE

[brazen coral]

I've already tried to attempt nuclear power but at the moment I can't do anything with the waste product until I can get the particle accelerator unlocked which is my next step.

[silk ocean]

Yea I wouldn't do nuclear until you have that

If you want it to be infinitely sustainable and not just store vast amounts of waste

[silk ocean]

Yea it's fun for something to do

[zealous urchin]

youre something

[silk ocean]

Can confirm made of atoms and molecules

You're*

xD

[zealous urchin]

extremly creative

[silk ocean]

That is something I am not xD

I drew a stick man once

[zealous urchin]

🧙‍♂️

[silk ocean]

🐱

🤶 🎄

[zealous urchin]

im not judging

[silk ocean]

Good because that is Mother Christmas xD

[lost rapids]

Good morning

[robust nova]

well, i just found out there is a too high.... dammit

[silk ocean]

You die above a certain height

[robust nova]

lesson learned

its sooo cool flying around after launching myseld and seeing all the progress Ive made so far over the 225 hours I have in this world so far

[hearty saffron]

What's wrong with the auto-driving cars? They always veer off and get stuck

[robust nova]

I love the vehicles and the goofiness

[hearty saffron]

I built a completely straight walled highway and they still get stuck somehow

[silk ocean]

They're fairly slack about following the route, drift around a bit

[zealous urchin]

disapointed in rc explorer

mainly how unsmooth top speed is

its like its engine has 1 cylinder thats insanely big

and no gearbox xd

[slim rivet]

the ai drives really drunk

thank god ficsit developed teleportation technology so they stay on track

[versed cosmos]

never used trucks because of how bad ive heard they are

[distant pulsar]

Yes hello

[versed cosmos]

its nice that the game doesnt really force long distance transport until youve got trains

[slim rivet]

the worst part about them is they rely on fuel instead of electricity

[versed cosmos]

YES

the only application ive ever considered using them for was moving sulfur to coal

because then i can fuel it

[slim rivet]

im 95% sure tho once you unlock trains, making satellite factories to refine raw ore into something and then training it to other factories is 1 billion times better

[versed cosmos]

yeah absolutely

trains have consistency that trucks dont

[slim rivet]

to be fair tho they look cool so im using them a little rn since its just some medium distance factories that are relatively far but not far enough to be assed to setup train depots

[versed cosmos]

set up trains because trains are fun

[slim rivet]

ahhaha yes

also im pretty sure theres a bug where if you load a save, the vehicles auto pilot just dont move unless you manually drive them forward like 10 meters

[versed cosmos]

thats actually torture

[zealous urchin]

transporting raw ore aint that funny tho

sometimes u got no choice tho so

[slim rivet]

theres always a choice 💔

[zealous urchin]

factory cart

[pearl sparrow]

i have a very long highway across the top right desert to transport coal

[versed cosmos]

lol im transporting coal by train to my steel factory

taking the coal from the east rocky desert to the iron nodes closer to the centre

[pearl sparrow]

#screenshots message

[fast summit]

i finally got space elevator phase 4 done... i have 580 something hours in my first save...
am i ahem "slow" ... orrr is this normal???

[pearl sparrow]

the truck likes to jump off the road at the first dock but it teleports back up so its whatever

[versed cosmos]

there is no expected pace

phase 4 is a huge step up in what the game needs you to do

[pearl sparrow]

im not entirely sure, i currently have 37 working up to phase 4 which is the farthest ive been but i have 164 total

[versed cosmos]

ive had the game for years and never finished phase 4

[pearl sparrow]

ive had like 4 or 5 profiles bc for some reason every time i come back to it i insist on starting over, this time i just picked up my last save

[versed cosmos]

because early game is easy and it feels like youre making progress

[fast summit]

#screenshots message ?

[fast summit]

big facts.

[versed cosmos]

the game stops being rewarding when you get to the more complex stages

just a psychology thing

[fast summit]

i think its because ada doesnt chime in much at all the entire time...

[pearl sparrow]

you are a much more large scale player than i am lmao

[zealous urchin]

beating the game is not a problem once u know boxfeeding

[fast summit]

like it feels dry and slow because she isnt chiming in every 5 minutes you know?

[versed cosmos]

wtf is boxfeeding

[fast summit]

this, i also dunno what the hell that is

[pearl sparrow]

my biggest factory is probably my 5 motors per minute 💀

[zealous urchin]

its the forbidden jutsu of pioneer of six playthroughs

[fast summit]

i did the "no-no" and made mine produce 10k screws per minute...
edit: 20k/min

[versed cosmos]

what alts u using?

[fast summit]

#screenshots message

[slim rivet]

s word 😱

[pearl sparrow]

cast screws is all i have for it, havent stepped foot outside dune desert

[versed cosmos]

jesus christ motors with no iron pipe or steel rotor

[pearl sparrow]

i could send a screenshot of the factory if youre interested

[versed cosmos]

sure

[pearl sparrow]

probably not the best design but 🤷‍♂️

[versed cosmos]

🤞 please be on foundations

[pearl sparrow]

alr i gotta get over to it rq

[pearl sparrow]

it is dw lmao

[versed cosmos]

thank god

[fast summit]

@versed cosmos heres a little of mine if ya want #screenshots message

[pearl sparrow]

i got the achievement for 5k foundations before i got trains

love my foundations

[slim rivet]

same ahahahahhaa

[versed cosmos]

insane for first save

[pearl sparrow]

this is like my 4th or 5th i usually get bored decently quick

[versed cosmos]

bro i got the 5k rails achievement before even having my first train run because i kept having to rebuild it

[pearl sparrow]

#screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

looks pretty good tbh

but not having iron pipe or steel rotor would actually drive me insane

[fast summit]

clean and gridded

[pearl sparrow]

sfc definitely carries a lot of my factories lmao

[versed cosmos]

sfc?

[fast summit]

sfc?

[versed cosmos]

oh satisfactory calculator?

use tools its much better

calculator can literally just be wrong

[fast summit]

#NoMods

[pearl sparrow]

i managed to forget thats not a widespread way to refer to it lol

[versed cosmos]

oh its not mods lol

[pearl sparrow]

but yea satisfactory calculator

[versed cosmos]

just websites that help u plan

[pearl sparrow]

noted

[versed cosmos]

tools also saves ur factories

[compact flicker]

Only external tool I personally use is a notebook and a calculator

[versed cosmos]

when im just chilling i sometimes mess with it and see if i can do things better

[slim rivet]

deadass

i just use my phone calc and pray

[versed cosmos]

actual stone age behaviour

[compact flicker]

Its all preference, but I feel like I'm cheating if I use a program that does all the work for me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pearl sparrow]

i could never plan out a factory with a pen and paper i do NOT know how to lay stuff out like that 😭 if something needs planning i usually just start building in chunks and see how it goes no matter what game it is

[pearl sparrow]

fair enough

[slim rivet]

ahaha same

[fast summit]

mmmmm yeah i looked at it and was going to do a streamline factory with ZERO overages but- i gave up and went modular and decided to "shotgun blast" away any production issues i have with simply "making more" if it it was starving. im very sophisticated lmao... i was spending HOURS trying to figure out exactly how many buildings i need to process every resources i need and i was exhausted from thinking about it. turns out the best solution is to literally build ANYTHING and get it started- then fix it later.

[slim rivet]

agile design process wins yet again

[versed pumice]

hey are there any train experts that would be able to help troubleshoot the block signals on my save? im new to trains and its stressing me out

[versed cosmos]

i feel like as i get more into complex stuff im not gonna be able to balance perfectly anymore

gonna have to add overflows and sinks everywhere

[compact flicker]

The notebook is just to keep track of numbers, which I write all over the page and end up losing which ones are currently relevant

All the architecture I do in my head :3

[fast summit]

i think im skilled at these POS's

[zealous urchin]

i use every tool
tools
modeler
wiki
pen and paper

[fast summit]

p much what it becomes "build a LOT and sink the rest- otherwise it sits there doing nothing"

that said i plan to just sink the end of the lines too- because they give the most points and kick the majority of the factory into production when consumed so... why put them on copper wire when i can sink something like directors and have it consume wire and get a ton more points too

[slim rivet]

ive come to this realisation as i make 1 factory, it will produce the required bare minimum stuff i need, then i move onto building the next factory and then the time it takes for me to complete another factory / task is so great 85% of my factories just sit idle, storage full

[fast summit]

btw whats your train delema-

[versed cosmos]

you definitely want to put a smart splitter before your storage and send overflow to a splitter

[versed pumice]

the signal loops back into itself

[versed cosmos]

i mean to a sink

[versed cosmos]

add another singal

[fast summit]

youll pretty much make like 3 or 4 factories stepping up to what you need and figuring it out as you realize "i need 4 times more space than i imagined" come to find out you needed 4 times THAT much too lmaooo

[fast summit]

too close, space the blocks out from each other

[pearl sparrow]

oooooo i just found a reason to completely rebuild my basic copper components factory

[fast summit]

also could be that the track ends or is not correctly connected somewhere. if the blocks arent too close- the rail is disconnected after the block. can try driving a train and see if it derails

[versed pumice]

all my tracks are connected properly, nothing derails

[fast summit]

send screenshot?

[versed pumice]

can you get in voice for a screenshare. No VC is needed

[fast summit]

of close are of block signal showing error (no window), then hold the block signal and zoom out so i can see around it

[versed pumice]

oh those dont exist here

[vast whale]

Is there a way to assign fuel to your jet pack? I have fuel and biofuel in my inventory for the chainsaw and jet pack.
The game keeps using the bio for my chainsaw and jet pack… I want to use the regular fuel for the jet pack. Is there a way to make this happen?

[silk ocean]

Click on the cog on the jetpack and select default fuel type

[versed cosmos]

yeah click the little gear icon on the jetpack

[vast whale]

Oh neat. Thanks!

[versed cosmos]

also liquid biofuel is a little better than regular fuel for the jetpack

slightly longer burn time

[vast whale]

Ok cool

Thank you!

[versed cosmos]

it's 2.5 i think which if you're just tapping while travelling horizontally actually gives you a lot more flight time

[silk ocean]

Yea blipping gives you a lot more flight time than holding it on

[versed cosmos]

2.5 extra seconds over standard fuel, that is

[peak wasp]

Sup guys

[pearl sparrow]

I DIDNT KNOW OIL PRODUCTS WERE SO MUCH BETTER FOR TICKETS OMG i made an overflow on my plastic/rubber/power factory and i have 57 tickets built up 😭

[pearl sparrow]

hello

[silk ocean]

More advanced products even better

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I share the confusion as to why it's not obvious how it is very much possible to achieve a flat power draw on a power grid
Sure, the advantages might not be obvious, but wether it's possible or not should be (at least once multiple grids are mentioned)
Anyway, good luck and have fun on the challenge

[versed cosmos]

Once you start using buildings with variable power it does become impossible

Trains also take variable power

Annoys me cause when I first unlocked trains I was like "wtf is going on with my power???"

[zealous urchin]

bro wants to teach power consumption graph stoicism

[sterile blade]

"...multiple [power] grids are mentioned]"
It's not such a massive stretch of the imagination to use more than one power grid 😅

[silk ocean]

I opted for one megagrid

[sterile blade]

All vehicles do. Even trucks (stations) ^^

[restive willow]

Hello, how it's goin?

[hard ivy]

That just sounds like way more pain than it's worth

[sterile blade]

Like most design choices, its usefulness is user-driven

[sterile blade]

Of course, not everyone benefits from being able to know that one machine inside the whole factory is misbehaving and being able to easily track down exactly which one it is... But to those who have big factories and the right kind of OCD to care, that can save tens of hours of yellow-light hunting; hours saved simply by a cabling choice ^^

[versed cosmos]

Oh speaking of multiple power grids I'm gonna make diluted fuel with my aluminium factory's water byproduct and let it power itself

most of my stuff is in rocky desert and aluminium is in the swamp and i dont wanna run power poles lol

[sterile blade]

Did you use power towers yet?

[restive willow]

I'm planning to build a system of factories (or megafactories) and the biggest of them is the Iron and Steel facility, but I am pretty sure that the numbers below are not future-proof for new productions until tier 9. I'm currently tier 6. Which details production you would increase and until which numbers so when I build it, I forget about them at all? and what would you add?

the numbers below show the pure overhead, or, what goes in the storage containers

Part                      Count
Empty Canister            360
Steel Pipe                54
Reinforced Iron Plate     39
Iron Plate                36
Iron Rod                  30
Modular Frame             28
Rotor                     26.25
Versatile Framework       24
Motor                     22
Encased Industrial Beam   22
Heavy Modular Frame       18
Steel Beam                15
Automated Wiring          10
Stator                    8
Smart Plating             7
Modular Engine            4

[versed cosmos]

oh yeah i mean power towers

also god damn all the phase 4 stuff is everywhere BUT the rocky desert

[silk ocean]

I don't think you stay within any starting area for the whole game

Surprised you even got to phase 4 without going further

[marsh locust]

New player here yihaa

[versed cosmos]

got my oil on the west coast and copper for computer further south just before you enter the grass fields

that's ths furthest factory i've built

[silk ocean]

Basically on the porch xD

[versed cosmos]

yeah lol

the rocky desert bauxite was tempting initially but the terrain around it is so bad

maybe with drones ill bring it down

[sullen gull]

Naaah 😛 #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Oh those nodes high up to the south of the rocky desert?

Nice FloaterFac xD

[versed cosmos]

yeah i dont build platforms in the sky

could prob do a lot better if i did

[sullen gull]

Was one that was built in a friends save. .

[versed cosmos]

that shit ugly though

[sullen gull]

That wasn't the goal. The goal was to "finish it off", But I'm not sure where it went after that.

[silk ocean]

Hella lot of stuff underneath, kinda cool

[restive willow]

guys...?

[sullen gull]

But, I don't typically do either: #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Just add capacity if and when you need it

[sullen gull]

That factory is producing all 12,300 baux on the map. So, unless some converters, that's at cap 😛

[silk ocean]

There's no point in trying to build for the future, plans might change, you might get alt recipes, etc.. Just scale up when you require more

[sullen gull]

The one I just posted will be doing 3600 cat wire/min 😛

[silk ocean]

I'm doing roughly a similar amount of cat overall

[versed cosmos]

just a little quickwire

[sullen gull]

But, it's also setup in block of 600. And each block has a priority power switch. So, whenever i need another 600, just switch on a block and connect the outputs.

[hard ivy]

Considering how much QW nuclear can take, yes, it's indeed just a little quickwire

[zealous urchin]

bro's argument to terrain is a floating platform

[sullen gull]

It's actually a rebuild of this one: #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

That's a cool way to do a resource node

[versed cosmos]

and i made a 300 quickwire factory early and thought id be set for the rest of the game with an industrial storage container full

[mortal ginkgo]

Kek.

You never make enough quickwire. That's not how it works around here young man.

[silk ocean]

SAM Ore says Hi

[zealous urchin]

Not enough minerals

we require more vespane gas

[silk ocean]

StarCrafter are we

[zealous urchin]

more like craftstarer

[silk ocean]

Creator of Sparkles

[versed cosmos]

the pioneer should be able to inhale rocket fuel from the open end of a pipe to mine and craft faster

[zealous urchin]

bro you would die what

[versed cosmos]

no i'd become ADA's favourite and most efficient pioneer

[zealous urchin]

yea sure, these are chakra pills, go ahead

[sterile blade]

BTW, flat power grid is how I troubleshooted my most delicate sushi (involving ~400 machines at once) and manage to spot the hoverpack network bug (fun times...)

[versed cosmos]

fuckin love sushi belts man

smart splitter manifolds feeding assemblers and manufacturers is where its AT

merge all the overflow lines and use one sink for it all

[silk ocean]

Sushi is bad... DelicateSushi sounds like the destroyer of worlds and creator of epic mysery on the level not seen since the First Order

[hard ivy]

All of my item management relies on belts filling up so sushi gets a definite no thank you from me

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman this is a sandbox factory game, not a Pax Imperia where you are a Dictator of a galactic empire

[silk ocean]

Sushi belting is worse than when they blew up Jeddah City 😈

[mortal ginkgo]

its useful for Sinking tho'

[silk ocean]

That's kinda half-Sushi... fire and forget

[sterile blade]

I dare you to watch the Sushi Galore video and not get even a bit of Satisfaction looking at the sushi flow

[silk ocean]

Watching it... xD

That is a lot of fish

[compact flicker]

If you don't sushi your sink belts, you're insane lol

[zealous urchin]

all resource nodes will bow before the ada's republic

[mortal ginkgo]

what if they are making 1200/min reinforced plates?

[compact flicker]

Also qualifies as insane

[silk ocean]

That is an impressive amount of sushi inside that building xD

I gave you a thumbs up 😄

[hard ivy]

I rarely have 2 belts of items I want to send into the sink close enough to bother merging them into one

[pearl sparrow]

#screenshots message any way to stop this from switching automatically?

[versed cosmos]

signals ig

[hard ivy]

Trains in automatic switch them to match the direction they're going

If you want the switch to stay in one position for whatever reason, you need to make your trains go in that direction

[pearl sparrow]

so while in the train during autopilot, manually switch the direction with the keybind, and it will stay that direction?

[versed cosmos]

make them NOT want to go the other way

nope

train always paths using the shortest route

[pearl sparrow]

oh wait i read that wrong

[hard ivy]

No, a train in auto will switch it to the direction it wants to go

[versed cosmos]

hence

[hard ivy]

If it wants to go left at a split, it'll change the switch to point left, and then go left

So if you want the switch to stay pointed right, you need to make the train want to go right instead of left

[pearl sparrow]

#screenshots message i would like it to always enter from the bottom if possible

[hard ivy]

With that station setup it cannot even do anything other than enter from the bottom

Unless you have a train doing a 180 there without stopping at the station, then it can go either way

[pearl sparrow]

when i went through the loop initially it switched the sign to the other direction, would that only be an issue in manual?

[pearl sparrow]

ideally it stops to pick up the rubber and plastic

[hard ivy]

In manual, you change the switches with A/D

[mortal ginkgo]

that sign is just for your manual movement, automated trains know where and how to enter

[pearl sparrow]

ik i was just going for a test drive and didnt stop, my concern is it will continue to switch in automatic

[pearl sparrow]

got it

[hard ivy]

Like I said 3 times already, a train in automatic changes the switch however it wants to. It doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong when it approaches, because it'll be correct once it gets there

[compact flicker]

I do wish the lil arrow sign affected automatic trains

Would save me so much headache

[hard ivy]

It does. The train always goes in the direction the arrow is pointing.

It's just that the autopilot can change where it's pointing

[compact flicker]

Im 80% sure you knew what I meant lol

[cursive crane]

I once spent like 2 hours trying to figure out why the arrow kept changing and how to get it to stop before I realized in the point a and point b station I had it was entirely unnecessary lol

[pearl sparrow]

you only said the train goes where it wants to go and that i should force it to go the way i want with no further elaboration which gave me the impression it was essentially random, i did not know the train would be smart enough to go to the correct direction, only that it goes where it pleases. limestone helped with that aspect though

[hard ivy]

I did but I pulled a monkey's paw on you :P

[merry granite]

how does ST decide when to use an alternate recipe?

[ocean stone]

Will the locked rising hover pack bug ever be fixed?

[sterile blade]

I hope you felt satisfactoried
FicsitCam is a blessing to humanity for allowing such recordings

[pearl sparrow]

if im not mistaken theres a button on the side that brings you to a menu of alternate recipes with boxes you can check

[cursive crane]

ST?

[merry granite]

Yeah i know about that but does it have any logic for deciding which ones to use? I want it to decide for me i just entered all of them

[merry granite]

satisfactory tools

[hard ivy]

You have control over the train's schedule and rail direction. You do not have precise control over the train's route between its destinations. It chooses the shortest possible path between its current location and its next destination

So yes, the trains choose their route, not you. But what you can do is give them only one possible route, then they'll always take that one.

And that's what's happening here. Stations can only be entered from the back. So the train is forced to use the bottom rail. Which means it's forced to turn left at the split. Again, if it wants to dock to that station.

A train that wants to do a turnaround there isn't forced to go up or down, left or right. It will do whatever it wants and change the switch to match that. But it doesn't matter, because the next time another train comes around, it'll do the same thing. So it doesn't matter which way the switch is pointing, because when a train approaches it always makes it point in the direction it's going

[pearl sparrow]

ohhh got it, yeah im not sure about that but if you wanted it to just randomly pick one you could always assign each a number then just use a random number picker lol

[hard ivy]

Based on which recipe path leads to the lowest % resource usage (unless you change it to maximize mode, then maximum output of selected item, but not lowest resource usage)

[pearl sparrow]

i see, thank you for the clarification

[merry granite]

Interesting, how does maximum output of selected item work? that doesnt make sense to me isnt that just maximum resource efficiency

where do you change that

[cursive crane]

So question here.
Say I make a circle train route around the whole map, theres stations in each cardinal direction [north, northeast, east, etc.]

Say the trains at north, and needs to go to northwest, but it arrived from that direction. Is there some way to stop it from backing up and reversing on that line to get to that station? Like if you put a block signal there and theres a train in it will it decide to take the long way around?
Feel like im overthinking that feel free to just gimme a thumbs up lol

[silk ocean]

I was wondering what you were using for the cam

[hard ivy]

SFTools has 2 modes: items/min and maximize

When an item is set to items/min, Tools makes the amount you asked for, and finds the recipe path that uses the fewest resources (or rather, the lowest % of the world's resources, not % of the limits you set)

When an item is set to maximize mode, Tools makes as much as possible (given the current limits). What it doesn't do, is minimize resource usage afterwards. So if you can make the same amount of x item using 100 and 1000 iron, Tools doesn't care, and chooses one essentially at random. It will optimize the efficiency of at least one resource, because if it didn't it could make more output by doing that, but the resources that don't affect the final output amount are irrelevant in that mode

[merry granite]

thats cool, thanks for that

[sterile blade]

More info should be in the description, I think, but yes that's what I used.
I could never record something that detailed, that smoothly in real-time 😭

The mod basically renders each frame individually, so it doesn't matter how long it takes to calculate them

[hard ivy]

Signals placed only on one side of the rail make that rail traversable only in one direction

But also, locomotives can only go in one direction. A single locomotive is completely incapable of going in reverse (except in manual). To make a train even be able to reverse in auto, it needs a second locomotive at the back, facing the opposite direction of the first. So if you don't want your trains to reverse, simply don't give them another locomotive

Another thing that's directional is stations. They also accept trains only from one direction. Though a train with 2 locomotives can reverse out of a station.

[silk ocean]

Oh that is quite cool, like the sound of that

[sterile blade]

I'm a big fan, as I love the look of things with maxed graphics, but can't quite run them myself 😆
Not incredibly easy to use, but I guess that's about as simple as it can get and the results are totally worth the learning curve...
Big recommend. End of the nonsponsored segment

[silk ocean]

Also should make perfectly smooth videos, no framedrops, etc

[dense violet]

It has an internal weight system on value of resources if you give it multiple paths

[dense violet]

Maximise is a bit wonky as it won’t care about weight and just give you a max number

I highly advise, after the max number is found, you enter in that as number per min

But also I personally recommend you just swap recipes in and out to follow a specific path and see the changes.

So for example you turn off base circuit boards, and check silica cbs

That lets you plan out locations better imo

[feral dragon]

Any easy way to see in what machines my sloops are in?

[dense violet]

They have a purple haze

[silk ocean]

Listen for the growl xD

[old parrot]

im doing my first world with no cliping

this is so hard

[silk ocean]

Some belts clip like when going up foundation inclines for no obvious reason, I tolerate that sort of thing

[old parrot]

im trying to do pipes and this is so hard

[silk ocean]

Space them back a bit and have them at least a space above the splitters, only way to avoid clipping there

[old parrot]

thats not the part that im having trouble with

im very low on the building matirals and i have no room

and im making a 3 to 2 pipe thingy

[silk ocean]

Lack of space is going to be your biggest enemy xD

[old parrot]

im building over water too

i just dont have any plates

[silk ocean]

Dimensional Depot?

[old parrot]

havent made one yet

nore a plate factory

[silk ocean]

Sounds like the priority

[old parrot]

i dont have power

[silk ocean]

xD

[old parrot]

im making like 16 coal gens rn

[feral dragon]

I have over 1000 machines xd

[hard ivy]

Then SCIM can help. Dismantle areas of machines, and check the dismantle crate for sloops. If there are some, they were in the machines you dismantled, if there aren't, there weren't any. Reload the save and try again with a different group of machines until you narrow it down enough to use dismantle mode in-game (hovering over a machine in dismantle mode shows what you'll get from dismantling so you don't have to open machines to check)

[merry granite]

In satisfactory modeler can I just have a node that uses X amount of various resources? I dont want to use satisfactory modeler for factories but i want to use it between multiple factories logistics

[hard ivy]

Make an outpost that contains machines that consume those resources

[merry granite]

Can i make an outpost out of an existing set of machines?

[hard ivy]

Not exactly, but you can simply make an empty outpost and paste the machines in there.

Idk if ctrl+X works for cut and copy, but you can simply copy, paste and delete the original if you want to move them

[dense violet]

Keep notes , or don’t use them. You kinda hate them personally

[merry granite]

I think i got it, thanks

[silk ocean]

Fortunately I noted down in notepad where I put all the sloops

[old parrot]

i just use memory

[silk ocean]

There are like 15 locations around the world, I would forget xD

[old parrot]

i use mine for like 3 things at most

[silk ocean]

I've been in a phase of removing them and moving them to the hardest to make products

[old parrot]

i use them for the end products for my phase and for dna and slugs

rest goes to power

[silk ocean]

Yea 3 augmenters, the rest are now going into things like Singularity Cells

[old parrot]

cant wait to unlock it in the mam in my curent world

power shards

[silk ocean]

Synthetic Power Shards yea

[old parrot]

no the sommersloop

i saved all my slugs

[silk ocean]

Once you get that alt recipe you won't even care about slugs

[old parrot]

ik then you sink

[silk ocean]

Can't sink Power Shards unfortunately

[old parrot]

idk dawg

i havent gotten past 4 or 5 i think

i dont rember

[silk ocean]

You can't sink them, won't go

[old parrot]

im always sleep deprived when playing

[zealous urchin]

u sink ionized fuel

🧙‍♂️

[silk ocean]

Well, yea

[old parrot]

i have so many slugs ive been saving from getting drives

[zealous urchin]

also gotta have that dark matter trap to get rid of excess

[hard ivy]

Burn, rather

[old parrot]

ive been getting alt recipes for the refinery when im still on phase 2

[hard ivy]

Ah, yeah, there are like 2 or 3 recipes that imo you shouldn't be able to get

The devs set the requirements to coal power, instead of oil processing, despite only being able to use them at oil processing

[old parrot]

lol

better than charcoal tbh

[compact flicker]

Anyone elses factories just get exponentially uglier the longer you spend building them?

[old parrot]

half half

matters on what type

[hot mango]

good morning/day/evening everyone 😺

[compact flicker]

Good time Pioneer

[hard ivy]

I don't decorate so they're perpetually ugly

But decorating is inefficient

[old parrot]

im to in my projects in this to sleep

[weary yoke]

Somewhat yeah, once I hit mid game I started to focus on unlocking the decorational stuff. Then when I did that if I ever had to expand I would build the frame of the factory first

[compact flicker]

I moreso was reffering to putting less effort into avoiding spahgetti

[weary yoke]

-# just dont ask about my coal power plant..

[hot mango]

for sure

[old parrot]

mine looks the best out of anything

[compact flicker]

My current coal plant is pretty I think :3

[old parrot]

ive learnt how to make neatish pipes for once

[weary yoke]

I see one day? Xbox player

[hot mango]

this save im playing in my 2nd game, this time i built out to sea on foundations and it a lot better than just plonking machines down in the dirt

[old parrot]

what

[old parrot]

my 6th game i started using a grid and foundations

[weary yoke]

Can I see your coal plant design

[old parrot]

yes

[weary yoke]

Wonderful

[old parrot]

im making it rn

[hot mango]

woah 6 games, i only started another game because i wanted to try the modded mode the game has so i can fly now without wings 😸

[old parrot]

my first 5 i couldnt get past phase 2

[compact flicker]

#screenshots message

My coal plant

6gw

[old parrot]

mines there to

[hot mango]

oh bummer, i completed my 1st game before starting the 2nd, what went wrong for you?

[old parrot]

no organization and all the stuff i was making was on one 20 by 11 floor

[hot mango]

oh my 1st game i didnt make any foundations, i just put them in the dirt, it was ok at 1st but later on got quite bad with belts running all over the place 😦

[old parrot]

i love noodles but there not neat

[hot mango]

true...

[old parrot]

i also wasnt using manifolds or balencers so it was all over flow

except my turbofuel power plant

[hot mango]

yup all backed up for miles lol

[old parrot]

that was great

[compact flicker]

I finally for the first time ever automated cluster nobelisk

[old parrot]

I LOVE CLUSTERS

[hot mango]

i also changed location for my 2nd game because where i was before sucked, everything was so far away

[old parrot]

my 2nd real game was in dune

the one im in rn is my single player world so i started at rocky

[hot mango]

im now on the beach near the dunes too

[old parrot]

by the time you need 6gw you should have fuel

[compact flicker]

#screenshots message

Current power plant

[old parrot]

peak spot for it

i would have built into the void tho

more room

[hot mango]

nicely laid out, i like it

[weary yoke]

Hoo damn. 25000 power out of that

Forgot a zero

How tf do you got the pipes working

[old parrot]

pipes are so easy

just keeping them neat is hard

[weary yoke]

Thats what I mean

[compact flicker]

Uhhhhh.. I mean they mostly work

[old parrot]

just use straight and alot of placing

[weary yoke]

I had a power plant that before they went to the generators they went through storage silos so if they ever overproduced fuel it was instantly stored

[compact flicker]

62,500 actually

[old parrot]

just perfect time it

[weary yoke]

You over clocking some?

[old parrot]

no over or under

[compact flicker]

All of em are 250%

[weary yoke]

Ahhhh

I can hear the tears of the engines now

[compact flicker]

900 oil/min

There is 1650 more in the immediate area

Idk what to do with it 😭

[old parrot]

i love that spot for it

more power

[weary yoke]

Alright, guess im starting a new satisfactory world lol

[old parrot]

peak

[weary yoke]

No satisfactory

[old parrot]

i love playing with friends cuz i can just research

[hybrid nymph]

I'm almost done with tier 6

[smoky forge]

ooooo the lake

[paper dove]

hi guys. is there a map floating online with all the underground caverns in the game? or some kind of scholar in the chat who knows all the entrances?
I can hear a mercer sphere somewhere under my base since day 1 (confirmed by the object scanner) but I can't find the entrance of the (presumably) cave, It's kinda driving me nuts after 170hrs on this run

[smoky forge]

ye gud stuff

[hybrid nymph]

I just fixed my oil plant today

[old parrot]

satisfactory calculater or sums map has a cave mode with entrances

[compact flicker]

Base coords?

[old parrot]

i love oil

[hybrid nymph]

And I figured out I had two options to get rid of the heavy oil residue. I could either turn it into petroleum Coke and either awesome sync it or take it and feed it into coal generators for power, or I can make it into fuel and set up more fuel generators

[paper dove]

nvm

[old parrot]

make it into fuel

but time it

[paper dove]

I hear it at 686, -761

[hybrid nymph]

I did the math and I figured out that if I overclocked 14 coal generators I could make 2625 MW. And there is a catch though, I would have had to use 42 power slugs. And it would have taken up a lot of space

[old parrot]

14 isnt that big actullu

[hybrid nymph]

So I instead decided to go for the simpler option and turn all the heavy oil residue into fuel. And then I decided to take the fuel and feed it into 4 fuel generators, clocked at 625 MW

[paper dove]

oh

[old parrot]

but fuel

[hybrid nymph]

Now I know going for the petroleum Coke would have generated slightly more power, but it would have taken up a lot of space

[near pulsar]

Yall my game is kinda laggy and do u guys have a solution

[hybrid nymph]

Get a better computer lol

No but on all seriousness try turning your graphics settings from high to medium

[near pulsar]

Ok😂

[old parrot]

turn down grapics and close other aplicatons

[golden nexus]

i have done this before its not really worth it

[old parrot]

im running a 1070 with this game well

[golden nexus]

your better to push though to an oil solution

[near pulsar]

Alriht ill try that

[hybrid nymph]

I'm running a 2070 super

Fully overclocked

[near pulsar]

Im on a asus vivobook

[old parrot]

my pc is a hand me down

[near pulsar]

My school laptop

[old parrot]

gl

[hybrid nymph]

Clocked at 2070 MHz core speed and 8192 MHz memory clock

[old parrot]

and pray to all the gods

[near pulsar]

I got it from epic if that helps

[hybrid nymph]

Right now I'm just waiting the next 2 hours for all my space elevator parts to craft

So I'm just catching up on some Netflix shows

[old parrot]

yum

[near pulsar]

My mouse moves at like 2 fps and my game at like roughly 30

[hybrid nymph]

I get about 100 FPS in my game

[near pulsar]

And like 1 sec input delay

[edgy trail]

hi quick question. is there a way i can get like half floor tiles?

[hybrid nymph]

And I have a huge factory

[old parrot]

ive watched all of jjk and 4 romance just from playing this

[old parrot]

yes in shop

[paper dove]

thanks @old parrot

[hybrid nymph]

Unless I set up more than one manufacturer, It's going to take 2 hours for me to craft the rest of my space elevator parts. I don't have enough sommer sloops to be able to set up more than two manufacturers

[old parrot]

4 coupons

[near pulsar]

Is my game cooked

[edgy trail]

thank you

[old parrot]

yes

[hybrid nymph]

How many coupons do you guys have?

[near pulsar]

Should i have got it on steam instead

[old parrot]

np

[near pulsar]

Of epic

[edgy trail]

how can i check?

[hybrid nymph]

I've got 67 in my AWESOME Sink

[old parrot]

2 cuz i love customization

[hybrid nymph]

Go into your awesome sink and check

[idle knoll]

awesome sink

[old parrot]

i keep them in my inv just incase

[compact flicker]

@paper dove

[edgy trail]

ah i dont think i have that yet

[compact flicker]

#screenshots message

[old parrot]

uh the last of phase 2

[hybrid nymph]

What tier are you on?

[old parrot]

except i havent gotten jump pads

[compact flicker]

protogen spotted

[old parrot]

lol

[edgy trail]

well i see it but i havent built it. im on tier 4 the last milestone

[idle knoll]

🤯

[compact flicker]

:3

[near pulsar]

I just started any tips

[hybrid nymph]

I see tier 4, You get the awesome sink in tier 2

[old parrot]

get a better pc

[hybrid nymph]

You should have just gotten coal

[near pulsar]

Okkk....

[hybrid nymph]

Well I mean I have a decent PC, and it's overclocked, And I am running the game at 1440p.

[compact flicker]

Quartz is extremely useful
Sulfer is very useful
Caterium is very useful
Use foundations
Sloop your slugs

[idle knoll]

Automate production of everything

[zealous urchin]

there is potato mode guide for pc on steam
easy to find

[near pulsar]

Thanks yall

[compact flicker]

Gl

[hybrid nymph]

Slooping your slugs is super broken, And I love it

[idle knoll]

wym by decent pc

[old parrot]

im running on high with a 1070 and a intel core i7 6700k 4GHz

[hybrid nymph]

AMD Ryzen 5700X clocked at 4.8 GHz and RTX 2070 Super clocked at 2070 MHz, 32 GB of RAM clocked at 3600 MHz

[idle knoll]

should be good

[old parrot]

i got 8 gb of ddr4

[hybrid nymph]

I am running the game at 1440p, And even with my massive factory I still get between 100 to 120 FPS

[zealous urchin]

and ure not getting any stalls?

[old parrot]

if i open opera

[idle knoll]

playable

[old parrot]

very i get abt 45 fps

[silk ocean]

8GB is pretty tight these days

[hybrid nymph]

Opera GX is objectively the best browser hands down

[shrewd igloo]

vro i need more iron but only nodes available are impure waht do i do

[old parrot]

not gx

[hybrid nymph]

Let's game it out convinced me to get it. As well as this game

[zealous urchin]

have yo useen potato mode for sati?

[compact flicker]

Series S is 8gb of ram and the game runs just fine foe me :3

[paper dove]

I got my mercer sphere. annoying alien noise gone. good factory noises finally prevail. operation STD has a bright future ahead. thanks to all involved.

[old parrot]

oh and my wifi is supported by an old phone connected with a c to c

[hybrid nymph]

What number playthrough are you on this game? I'm on my 5th playthrough, My factory is still a work in progress but it's getting there

[silk ocean]

I haven't xD

[old parrot]

stealing my nabors wifi

[compact flicker]

Operation what

[paper dove]

Save The Day

took me a while to realize that

[compact flicker]

that makes sense

[zealous urchin]

im gonna upgrade to potato mode and post all of my screenshots here using it just to spite some ppl tschk tschk

[silk ocean]

Upgrade to potato mode... what mode are you in right now? Cabbage mode xD

[hybrid nymph]

Want to know something funny? I got banned from The SimCity build it discord lol 😆

[old parrot]

i think the only game my pc struggles with is mc

[zealous urchin]

bro potato mode is enlightment

[hybrid nymph]

For discussing SimCity V content 🤣

[silk ocean]

AI told me I am in potato mode the other day

[zealous urchin]

fffffffffff shhhhh

i cooked myself with this one ngl

fine u can have it ig

[silk ocean]

It asked me what I am doing, said chilling and playing video games, told me I am in potato mode

[zealous urchin]

not everyone does fisconium after all so

[old parrot]

my factory now has more power than me brain

[shy mulch]

I wish I had time to be potato mode

[silk ocean]

Still not sure it was worthwhile xD

[silk ocean]

This weekend? xD

[zealous urchin]

idk man i wish i had more green for other hobbies

[shy mulch]

got xmas shopping to do, it's going to be chaos

[old parrot]

does anyone just go hunting the animels when your bored

[silk ocean]

Fortunately nobody in our family does Christmas or presents

[leaden turret]

[shy mulch]

my racks of storage boxes full of remains would indicate that might be something I've done on occasion

[zealous urchin]

protestant?

[silk ocean]

No religion in this fam

[old parrot]

turn them into dna

[compact flicker]

I love deleting my fps with cluster nobelisk

[shy mulch]

not really any need, I find it more fun to store them and have a big wall of dead things

[paper dove]

i've been on vacation for literally 3 hrs and I'm already procrastrinating the building of a factory in a video game

I'm doomed

[old parrot]

i love using cannon and trowing them and watching the fauna explode

[shy mulch]

I am your lord 😛

[fiery pewter]

Trophy wall

[silk ocean]

If you get invaded, you'll be like, meh, we'll gather the army next week

[old parrot]

i havent gone to school in like 3 months cuz of factory games

[fiery pewter]

What

[shy mulch]

they would hardly make a dent, maybe get like 1 or 2 trophies from all the remains, cba to calculate it but it wouldn't be much

[fiery pewter]

No I mean like, battle trophies

[old parrot]

i think i would go insane if i couldent listen to music or shows well playing this

[fiery pewter]

Like how older civilisations had hides on their walls

[old parrot]

hunters collect the heads

thats much more commen

[fiery pewter]

Yeah

[shy mulch]

you don't want to know what parts I collect

[old parrot]

yum

[limpid cairn]

are you still playing on the phase 0 world?

[fiery pewter]

I just vibe to Northern Forest ambiance

[limpid cairn]

with the 200h?

[old parrot]

i listen to indie music

[fiery pewter]

Nice

[shy mulch]

I haven't played it in quite a while, got a little bored there was nothing left to do other than sit and wait for parts from doggos lol

[fiery pewter]

I should go on a hard drive hunt soon

[zealous urchin]

is season 2 of jjk better than 1st?

[old parrot]

does anyone make a small factory and then they forget to put storege

[old parrot]

idk

[fiery pewter]

No but I tend to forget the first or last belts

[shy mulch]

My ADHD prevents me from doing less than 987659876 things at once. I'm usually playing a game, doing my job, netflix on the tv, youtube on my other monitor, reading something, and scrolling my phone, and I'll still tell people I'm bored

[zealous urchin]

didnt u say u watched that?

[fiery pewter]

I feel this

[old parrot]

yeah

[old parrot]

i forgot

[zealous urchin]

[old parrot]

ive watch 50% of rezero at the same time

and ive watched like 3 dif romance after

going to go to bed finally

[zealous urchin]

🛌

[old parrot]

i ahvent slept in 19hrs

[pearl sparrow]

rezero peak

[old parrot]

FR

[leaden turret]

I prefer to sleep in bed rather than specific durations of time

[old parrot]

cant wait for next seson

[old parrot]

i like sleep

[pearl sparrow]

its been in a battle for my #1 anime with mp100 for a long time lmao

[old parrot]

its def my #2 rn

[pearl sparrow]

whats ur #1?

[old parrot]

horimiya

i think thats it

wait

actully a silent voice

[pearl sparrow]

W

[old parrot]

if that counts idk

[pearl sparrow]

i mean i'd count it

[old parrot]

its so so good

your lie in april was so peak but so sad

[compact flicker]

I have obtained my first statue

It is that of the lizard doggo

[hybrid nymph]

Playing with friends is great, but playing alone is still a lot of fun

This game never gets old

[silk ocean]

Prerequisite failed: got friends xD

[zealous urchin]

zatie zatie is on some yapie yapie

[silk ocean]

Dafuq xD

[zealous urchin]

just messin with u, all good

[idle knoll]

false

I hate ts

[silk ocean]

Yaas xD

[limpid cairn]

no

[trim sundial]

I dont understand this. i just blew a fuse on my coal system. I was at 150MW when i turned on my new factrory which used up 163MW. I added another genny and went up to 225MW. I only added three smelters, 3 constructors and two assemblers which if my math is right adds less then 75MW to the bill, or is my math wrong?

Nothing is overclocked

[silk ocean]

Just another Chromium-based browser

[limpid cairn]

but which browser isnt chromium based?

[mortal ginkgo]

are you including the fact that water extractors are there?

[silk ocean]

Foxyfire?

[limpid cairn]

google is literally a monopoly

[silk ocean]

Chromium may be primarily developed by Google but it's an open source project

[mortal ginkgo]

real 100% alpha dominant pure gigachad males uses Internet Explorer, to explore internet.

[silk ocean]

The bossmode is Netscape Navigator

[trim sundial]

I havent added any more water extractors. Ive had just the one powering three coal generators, and i just triple checked the math, the new additions only add like 62 more MW to the 163MW alreadsy required thats only like...22....oh...im terrible at math did i mention that?

Ugh time to build a fourth genny.

[mortal ginkgo]

you didnt add miners either. I mean, I can see there is a calculation mistake.

But game does not magically increase power demand.

It does alot of silly stuff, but that one is not it.

[whole basin]

Some sites still actually require ie mode in edge. 1 government site updated to "new system" like 3-4 years ago...

[trim sundial]

I didnt add miners either to the equaton either, at 163MW thats all of my miners, water plants, everything, i added a third genny which brought it up to 225MW output lol.

I guess the MW addition to a bill jumps quickly.

[mortal ginkgo]

There is a neat trick about not upgrading because upgrading stuff comes with extra stupid stuff that is added where as prior old versions are simple, does the job fine, and have much less hackability (yes its a word now, enjoy) as all the issues are covered and 100% known.

[whole basin]

Not if you updated from ActiveX to also require silverlight

[mortal ginkgo]

this is off topic and I dont wanna go on further, as my statement was a clearly a joke (which is not a clearly a joke for some people but I guess thats the internet now)

[undone citrus]

I always keep my max under my production no matter how much power I'm actually using

My current consumption is around 2k mw but max consumption is 5k so I'm producing 5.2k

[coral marsh]

Just placed down 80 coal plants, might actually go for 100

[coral marsh]

Im producing 43Gw, max con is 20Gw, current con is around 9-12Gw

[undone citrus]

Idk enough about power stuff irl to know how much a GW is lol

[grim ridge]

Does the conveyor belt dictates at which speed the sink is eating the items ?

[undone citrus]

That sounds terrifying

Get the skin checked out

[grim ridge]

Too late already got fuel under my skin

[undone citrus]

Damn

That's just red bull

But I should get my 4 hours of sleep before it's too late

[coral marsh]

megawatt is 1 million, Gigawatt is 1 billion, Terawatt is 1 trillion

[undone citrus]

Damn

[coral marsh]

kilowatt is 1000

[undone citrus]

Yeah I no joke failed 10-12 math and all science that involved math.

Lots of complications after covid messed with the school year

[coral marsh]

electrical studies alongside physics and science have always been my favorites

[undone citrus]

When covid hit I was in grade 7 and they ended the year like 3 months early, then grade 8 was mostly online which was hard to follow along, grade 9 I missed half the year cause of moving and group homes and then when I was finally thrown into grade 10 I had essentially missed 3 years of necessary schooling

So obviously 10 wasn't great and 11 and 12 just got worse

[coral marsh]

damn

i was 21 when my country (nz) went into lockdown from the covid crisis

[undone citrus]

Yeah I was young, only 12 or 13

[dense violet]

oof yeah, a lot of student have issues from those years :\

[undone citrus]

But I'm an adult now. Doomed lmao

[coral marsh]

Same boat lol

I volunteer at my local salvation army 2nd hand shop

[dense violet]

there's generally methods to redo years of high school equivalent classes if you're at all interested in tertiary studdies?

[undone citrus]

Yeah, I'm in a program that lets me catch up and I can attend the program until I'm 20 if necessary

It's always awkward tho when people ask me what I do cause I'm technically still in highschool 😭

[trim sundial]

Well, valuable lesson learned, had to add a genny and redo my entire generator building but i got everything going. It was just a bummer because i had just set up the last automation to do tier 3 and tier 4 research lol. I think from now on im going to pay attention to my max consumption and make sure i have 300MW above max consumption lol

[dense violet]

unless you happen to live in a country that is... worse for wear, you can generally find a way if you have a will ❤️ it can not be easy but I believe in you

[undone citrus]

Yeah I try to go for at least 100-200 bare minimum clearance

[dense violet]

go for many gw, just build a bit station that gives you breathing space

[scenic mirage]

hey bro dont worry about being behind. the only thing that matters if that youre putting in the work to get back ahead. my dad says "we all fall sometimes, but the most important thing is how we get back up" keep your head up and stay strong

[undone citrus]

I'm in one of the best countries probably cause I'm in Canada

[dense violet]

ah nice, it can be a bit tough there if you don't have fam support but better off than the US

[scenic mirage]

canada is dope i escaped the usa recently too

moved to denmark 😎

[dense violet]

I escaped the US then escaped Canada xD

[undone citrus]

It's probably just cause I'm petty but I hate being called "second America"

[dense violet]

fair

Though I've never heard of anyone calling canada that

[undone citrus]

Some people have had the audacity to call us America but worse 😭

If anything we're america but better cause a broken leg won't cost you $7k

But so cold

[scenic mirage]

where do you live now

[trim sundial]

Aww...you cant use alternatve recipes in the crafting bench?

[undone citrus]

Brazil

[dense violet]

Australia
It's kinda like canada but much better social support

[undone citrus]

I never realized that

[dense violet]

And ... well hotter.

[trim sundial]

unless im missing something. i cant use my alternative recipe for rotors.

[dense violet]

nope, you are correct

[undone citrus]

Yeah. And all their insects are the same as here multiplied by 15

[scenic mirage]

i cant stand the heat it drives me insane 😭

[undone citrus]

I take +40°C over -40° any day

[silk ocean]

I'd accept 40C with aircon xD

[dense violet]

@scenic mirage ehhh the insects aren't actually that bad - honestly I think world wide insects have been dying out >.>

as for the heat not all of australia is awful.

Melbourne is like Vancouver kinda, but far fewer homeless people

[undone citrus]

Both suck but cold is just worse

[scenic mirage]

in denmark rn its always in the mid single digits and i just have my balcony open all the time

[shy mulch]

+40 you can survive with plenty water, -40 you will die, not really a good comparison haha

[dense violet]

oooh I miss the cold

[scenic mirage]

and i just have shorts on 😭 wrapped up in a cozy blanket

[undone citrus]

I'm not moving to gods sandbox

[coral marsh]

New zealand weather is either rain, cold af or very little sun

[dense violet]

you can rug up in warm clothes pretty easily 😛

[undone citrus]

We had -40° like 2 days ago

[scenic mirage]

+40 is survivable if you stay indoors and in the shade, -40 is easy just throw on layers

[undone citrus]

It's not horrible. Just bundle up

[dense violet]

It rains so much and gets so much sun here in the spring the grass will literally grow a metre in 2 weeks if you let it 😛

[shy mulch]

I have visited NZ a couple of times and got great weather, it was the perfect time of year for it

[scenic mirage]

lucky its only been below 0 like maybe 5 times

[silk ocean]

Summer before last it was 42C in the UK for a few days

[hybrid nymph]

Are went out because my trains got messed up

[shy mulch]

where?

[hybrid nymph]

But I fix them so it's okay.

[coral marsh]

Legend. Its such a beautiful country tbh.

[scenic mirage]

we had a light dusting of snow a few weeks ago but it was gone by the end of the day 😭

[undone citrus]

Canada. Where else lol. JK JK

[shy mulch]

google says hottest ever recorded in uk is 40.3

[undone citrus]

There's a place, not in Canada I'm pretty sure, but it reaches -68°C

[dense violet]

the social system is sadly lacking in Canada though :\
medical and eduational things are so much better here. And from what I understand basically everywhere in the EU.

[silk ocean]

Definitely hotter than that pretty sure, it was 42C by my temp sensor

[undone citrus]

Hottest I've ever experienced was 48°C

But honestly didn't cause me much issue

[shy mulch]

temperature sensors are wildly inaccurate because they can heat up far more than the actual air temperature, if they are in direct sunlight

[silk ocean]

It's fine if it's a dry heat

[coral marsh]

34⁰C for me

[scenic mirage]

yeah they always measure in the shade for weather forecasts

[silk ocean]

It's in a shaded area but could have been hotter due to microclimate and proximity to the bricks

[shy mulch]

hottest I experienced was in Doha, ridiculous, not sure what the temp was but I could only be outside for 30 mins at a time

[undone citrus]

Coldest I've experienced was -55°C with wind-chill of an insane -66°C

Was a scary day lol

And that's when I lived in Saskatchewan. So zero wind protection cause everything is so flat

[coral marsh]

Personally, F U C K THAT

I hate the cold

[silk ocean]

I had to Elgoog that.. state in Canada

[scenic mirage]

i have hyperhydrosis and im on some meds that make you sweat so even high 20s is awful

start pouring sweat

[undone citrus]

Yeah. Thankfully it's rare. We usually get like 1 -40 day a year then the rest is in about the -20 and -30

[undone citrus]

Nu uh. Province

[coral marsh]

I can handle/tolerate down to -5⁰C but no lower

[silk ocean]

Isn't Edmonton so cold that half of downtime is basically enclosed in bridges and tunnels

[undone citrus]

Saskatchewan is just a massive wheat field basically

[silk ocean]

Gotcha... my bad xD

[hard ivy]

Yeah, death valley (55 C) was less miserable for me than Bangkok (35-40 C)

[coral marsh]

Qatar hit 65⁰C a few years ago

[silk ocean]

Yea been to Death Valley when it was around 50C, wasn't terribad

[coral marsh]

Fucking wild

[undone citrus]

Never heard of that. And I was born in Edmonton and moved back to Edmonton

[silk ocean]

Friend sold me lies xD

[undone citrus]

-5 being a heavenly day in Canadian winter. That's sweater weather

[scenic mirage]

thats shorts and a pullover 😂

[undone citrus]

Lol

[silk ocean]

In the UK everything shuts down and everybody dies

[undone citrus]

Im not that dumb, but you'll actually see that stuff around and it's crazy

You'll see shorts in anything warmer than -20

[coral marsh]

I got a friend who's 2/3rds Scottish, the cold he can tolerate is nuts lol

[undone citrus]

But -21 suddenly it's full winter gear

[wind siren]

anyboady here play around with the GRN 4.0 map?

[undone citrus]

I can handle up to -30 for hours as long as I'm having fun. But if I'm bored its way colder cause no distractions

[silk ocean]

Doesn't look like there is much occurring in Saskatchewan, but I bet it's beautiful

[coral marsh]

Fair

[undone citrus]

Nah its boring af. Endless field. All farms. Random cows. Good for an apocalypse, all your neighbors have to walk 20 minutes before getting to you.

If zombies occured you'd be safe for a good 2 months.

[silk ocean]

Sounds like my kind of place

[undone citrus]

I've strategically thought about every zombie scenario. Like a normal person

[silk ocean]

Yea they'd never wonder that far by chance, they just bumble aimlessly around where they got infected, unless they have reason to chase

[undone citrus]

Yeah you get like a migrating horde, and would probably be fine if you stayed quiet

[silk ocean]

Have you installed a lazer perimeter alarm system

[undone citrus]

I should sleep tho

[silk ocean]

and a balcony with weaponry

[undone citrus]

It's 5 am and I have dumb adult stuff to do 🫠

[silk ocean]

May as well skip the night XD

[undone citrus]

I just wanna do school I don't wanna meet with people to discuss housing

[silk ocean]

I'm typically a bad influence, get some sleepz xD

[undone citrus]

Appointment in 4 hours 40 minutes 😭

[scenic mirage]

if zombies occured id just give up tbh

[undone citrus]

Id try and survive till I knew I was doomed then I'd go out my way

[scenic mirage]

go to sleep 😭 gonna be a zombie during the meeting fr

[undone citrus]

In Saskatchewan or antarctic tho I'd live at least a year

[silk ocean]

Buying a house? Previous owners -----> ZOMBIES

[shy mulch]

If there's ever a zombie apocalypse I'm heading for Svalbard

[undone citrus]

Saskatchewan has the same population as just the city of Edmonton. But spread over a province/state size

[swift crest]

anyone got an epic problem with cloud?

[silk ocean]

Freeze them to doomage

[silk ocean]

Epic keeps logging me out, frustrating

[swift crest]

i cant start the game

[undone citrus]

If you mean epic games having to use them in general is a problem

They haven't heard of a friends tab

[silk ocean]

I dont have Satis on Epic but i'll try a game

[swift crest]

infinite synchofghiofjhfohif

[undone citrus]

I had to download rocket League sideswipe just to add people so I could play satisfactory with PlayStation users

[swift crest]

then how to remove them?

[undone citrus]

No idea

Probably can't

They're like the host or something. Idk how games work

Publisher maybe

[silk ocean]

Got like a zillion free games in Epic and nothing is installed XD

[hybrid nymph]

I just fixed my power. I'm working on building power storage so that in case of my generators went out of fuel that I won't have a complete bass blackout

I want to get a power storage of 5,000 MW

[silk ocean]

Not having any problem downloading or running a game

Internet is far more complex than just everybody affected - depends which CDN you're hitting, etc

[swift crest]

oh i fixed it

it was a thing that fixes discord youtube and roblox (they blocked them in Russia)

[silk ocean]

a VPN? xD

[swift crest]

no a thing we cal zapret

blockage in russian

[silk ocean]

Open source project, interesting

Looks quite significantly/extensively developed

[swift crest]

looks like linux if not customized (i think)

[silk ocean]

Docs say Linux yea

[feral dragon]

Roughly how many presents do you need to do the 500 stars? I feel like I do nothing but collecting presents and then when I look I have like 30 stars

[hybrid nymph]

I'm now generating 12,000 MW

From a combination of fuel generators and coal generators. I have 50 coal generators, and 16 Fuel generators

[hard ivy]

Build ficsmas gift trees

[sterile blade]

Yep, that's exactly the objective.
For reference, that ~2 minutes video took my PC ~30 minutes to render (ie: took 30 minutes for the mod to generate the video, screenshot-by-screenshot)

[split osprey]

Many many thousands. You need the trees that make them

[silk ocean]

Yea that's kinda cool though, if it can spend time rendering like near-cinematic frames, I would totally accept 30 mins

[sterile blade]

For the glory of aesthetic videos/screenshots!

Tbh, the waiting part is easy... It's setting up the camerawork that is taxing

[hard ivy]

Anesthetic?

[split osprey]

That’s a lot

[hybrid nymph]

Hey I had excess coal so why not right?

[sterile blade]

Hopefully, the result isn't that boring 😭

[hard ivy]

Imagine collecting 75000 gifts by hand

[split osprey]

Half that if your impatient like me and sommersloop the entire setup

[scenic mirage]

2300 in my inv rn hand collected

[feral dragon]

Oh, had no clue about them

[split osprey]

Shouldn’t have told him

[sterile blade]

If you somersloop the entire chain, you halve the original input/min every step of the production chain (for the same output/min)

I don't remember that production chain, but with something like 5 steps all slooped you'd need just... 1/32 of the input

[split osprey]

Oh yeah I keep forgetting how powerful they are

Also can someone explain to me how the dna points scaling works? I dumped a couple hundred dna capsules the other day out of curiosity and it definitely don’t work like the regular points lol

[hard ivy]

The wiki should have that info

[feral dragon]

So when I built a gift tree they stop spawning in the air aswell?

[hard ivy]

When you build 10+ of them, yeah, the presents stop dropping from space

[tired cypress]

Am I crazy or are the assemblers whirring to the tune of Jingle Bells while making ornament bundles?

[scenic mirage]

i think you have too much christmas spirit. be sure it doesn't take attention away from your goal of saving the planet. maybe disabling the holiday event is for the best

[remote brook]

im making automated fused modular frame and i need nitrogen gas but its at the other end of map can i use pipes to carry it, do i need pumps or to worry about height or length?

[feral dragon]

Finally!

[scenic mirage]

its a gas so headlift doesnt matter for it 🙂

[remote brook]

or length?

[scenic mirage]

length doesnt matter for liquid tho?

you could make a 30 km pipe and itd work, it would just take a while to fill up

[remote brook]

ok thank you

[hard ivy]

Eh, it might matter at several kilometer scales

[scenic mirage]

i mean yeah but thats just a simple limitation on how fast the pipes can move stuff

[unkempt blade]

just need to loop it

[silk ocean]

The best option is to just disable FICSMAS on the server XD

I seem to recall 4 years ago some present floated down onto my railway or something

That was it... disabled

[shy mulch]

Can it claim benefits?

[sweet plaza]

Hey quick question could someone tell me is there a setting that lets me filter exactly how many items go onto one belt and how many to the other sorry I forgot what was name of that belt pice in english

[dense violet]

you clock machines to put what you need on a belt

[native frost]

Balancer?

[sweet plaza]

Ok but like if I need certain amount of plastic going from one belt to another like there is 40 plastic/m on a belt and I need 10 of it on another belt

[silk ocean]

Less electricity wasted on a commercialised farce of a holiday season? xD

[unkempt blade]

you just need to get in the ficsmas spirit!

[sweet plaza]

Oh just remembered I meant a splitter

[silk ocean]

Let's be honest, nobody gives AF about Christmas, they just want to get pissed and have 10 days off work XD

[keen light]

So the patch is only the ui stuff for steam deck?

[nova lynx]

is it possible to upgrade the factory kart

[unkempt blade]

you can make it gold 🙂

[nova lynx]

does that make it faster

[unkempt blade]

but it's already peak ficsit engineering so there's really nowhere for it to go from here

[nova lynx]

but it could be faster

[sweet plaza]

You are saying some very inefficient things here

[nova lynx]

wdym

im bored waiting for my space elevator

[sweet plaza]

Be aware ficsit is watching

[idle glen]

I accidentally pressed a button and now I cant destrou things, it says destruction mode: schematics

[nova lynx]

like give the kart a twin turbo

[sweet plaza]

Press the button again

[unkempt blade]

he's going to get coal in all his sky-presents if he doesn't quit with all the factory cart slander

[nova lynx]

no on

[keen light]

If you're bored waiting for space elevator parts then make more parts

[idle glen]

idk which one it was

[nova lynx]

its great
incredible piece of automotive engineering
comparable to mercede's W11

[keen light]

There should be a ui on screen to tell you which button does what

also I think it's R

[sweet plaza]

I think it was h but I'm not sure check in setting