satisfactory

[golden nexus]

huh?

[slate kiln]

In the picture

[golden nexus]

Which picture?

[slate kiln]

Where you say crude oil in the plains

[golden nexus]

Yeah, it comes in by train from the west coast

[slate kiln]

Oh okay

It’s the nearest source?

[golden nexus]

yeah probably

#screenshots message

trains station is right beside the ref's #screenshots message

[slate kiln]

Oh yes, thanks

[zealous urchin]

Domain Expansion: GIGANTIC FLOATING PLATFORM
Curse technique: ORANGE BOXIFICATION

[golden nexus]

worked out a great choice cause you get plastic + rubber in your starter base #screenshots message

[slate kiln]

My base is not there

[golden nexus]

where is it?

[azure pulsar]

Can you only apply one pattern per foundation?

[slate kiln]

At the hole

[normal dagger]

Meh the Christmas content is kinda annoying...

[reef basin]

you can disable it if you don't want it

[normal dagger]

Like I want all the things. But I don't have the copper or iron nodes to setup a temporary factory

[slate kiln]

I think it’s a good place with the coal

[reef basin]

iron is like everywhere and copper is common as well

[normal dagger]

I had hoped I could do it manually and not automate it. But combining the iron and copper balls is to much to do manually

[normal dagger]

I know. But I'm still working on my basic factories... So what's the point in setting up Christmas factories when I don't even have reinforced plates and rotors automated?

[golden nexus]

so turn it off in the options

[reef basin]

well the christmas content is recommended to go for if you're at T3-4 (at least)

[normal dagger]

I want the content tho

[golden nexus]

so turn it back on when your ready

[normal dagger]

Hmm

Isn't it a limited time thing?

[golden nexus]

8th Jan

[reef basin]

it doesn't give much in terms of things that are useful for normal gameplay anyway

[normal dagger]

Hmm I might just cheat christmas content

[golden nexus]

tickets 😉

[normal dagger]

I know. But it's just fun things to have

I like all my cables to be lights

[golden nexus]

really you get 25 tickets in advent calender

[reef basin]

can always do it next year or move your PC clocks a bit to keep it enabled

[normal dagger]

And a bit tree lit up also snow cannons look cool. Unsure if they do anything tho

Hmm how would I go about cheating some balls

That sounded weird...

But I don't think /give is a thing right?

[sudden flint]

what percentage of your worlds are built jankily, would you say?

[reef basin]

with AGS

[dense violet]

going up the tiers?
all half jank
personal projects after tiers? none

[normal dagger]

AGS?

[dense violet]

advanced game settings

[reef basin]

advanced game settings

[normal dagger]

Ah thanks

[sudden flint]

I want my things to look pretty but can't figure out how to make them that way 😢

[reef basin]

experience and inspiration

first one needs to be trained by playing, second one can be gained in #screenshots or #design-and-architecture

[sudden flint]

fair

I actually made a pretty sweet coal plant

[dense violet]

yeah experience inspiration and planning

make a plan from the end product then sort out each steap and how it goes

Personally I'd wait until you've unlocked every tier and recipe

[sudden flint]

overclocked for mark 3 belts and making 5040 megawatts if I remember right. It's built like 3 sides of an octagon

[broken quarry]

Im trying to build a rplate factory but put the constructor and rods takes up a lot of space is there a way to reduce that?

[ivory condor]

you can finds tons of inspiration on youtube, scim, etc also several channels on the discord with how to design factories to look pretty, etc

[golden nexus]

build upwards

[ivory condor]

making things look pretty can take planning and work, but its 100% achievable

[dense violet]

you could use different recipes, but if I recall correctly you're very early in the game

[broken quarry]

tier 3

[dense violet]

over clocking machines and building up are also options

[broken quarry]

up???

[reef basin]

generally not, you can change recipes or overclock, but things will take a lot of space, better get used to it

[dense violet]

it's a 3D game - multiple floors is a thing

[ivory condor]

you can also build downwards😎

[broken quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1450308573312847872/image.png?ex=6942109d&is=6940bf1d&hm=87da83dd4097af4996b8ea60922bb3a5db8eb98697763770646ad5f7e531a213&

[golden nexus]

Yeah if you can sort "a floor" that works then copy it up over and over

[golden nexus]

this is an alt (you can't copy this directly), but it is a hint #screenshots message

Its kinda my style.. it works for some things, not for others.... its useful because the footprint of hte build stays the same but you can increase the amountit can process.. it does get "silly" #screenshots message

[broken quarry]

wait so I need two constructors per assembler just for screws???

[golden nexus]

umm... depends on the reicpie

[broken quarry]

Rplates

[golden nexus]

of which there is 5 ways to do that or so...

I can't remember the default off hand

[broken quarry]

rods to screws, screws + plates

[golden nexus]

i think this is default but its half speed #screenshots message

[broken quarry]

requires 60 screws per minute one constructor only does 40

[golden nexus]

Yeah so there is an alt you want for screw which removes rods 🙂

[broken quarry]

but how do I get alts?

[golden nexus]

hard disk sites + mam

but as i said.. thoose use alts so you can't copy them directly for the current state of your game

they have added sufficent complexity to the game so that later on its kinda gets awkward to answer questions like "What is best way to do X?"

theres a lot of learning that goes into making good / clean factories / builds

[versed cosmos]

it becomes more about tradeoffs and what's "good" becomes more subjective and circumstantial

[compact flicker]

This game is frustrating sometimes -w-

[versed cosmos]

an alt recipe in one location might be better than in another location because of what resources are nearby

[golden nexus]

Yup, I am also a programmer in real life so i natually adapt to abstractions so i prefere buildings as "blocks"

so towers/buildings suit my way of thinking

[hasty cairn]

Games like Factorio are literally just programming in game format. It is actually the same thing.

[golden nexus]

so i think of it in terms of, this node make rplate, this node make rotor, this means i can put a smart plate factory beside them

and then it all goes horribly wrong

Like this steel building for example #screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

do you balance that or just have an overflow for unused rips and rotors?

[golden nexus]

You can more or less balance rotor+rplate. I tend to seperate the smelters so the building takes ingots

[broken quarry]

ughhh this creature wont move

[versed cosmos]

its the big bouncy guys isnt is

[broken quarry]

I killled him... hes on my conveyer now

[versed cosmos]

they like to get themselves stuck on mergers and splitters and occasionally buildings

my computer factory has one stuck on top of a manufacturer with no way to get down lol

[golden nexus]

But i don't always use towers eg.. this is item per floor some of which has "support" towers eg the towers are concrete, rplate, steel (beam, pipe, stator, rotor, motor, hmf), caterium (CB, Computer, SuperComp, AI Limiters), Aliminium... etc.. #screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

jesus christ lol

[golden nexus]

what?

first time seeing a starter factory?

[versed cosmos]

starter factory???

[golden nexus]

yes lmao

Its all items to T9

[versed cosmos]

we must be playing different games lmao

[golden nexus]

So it lacks performance for late game... like 0.5 pasta / minute

[real shale]

You monster, it was harmless and you killed it

[versed cosmos]

i'm sure ADA had some firm words to say

[real shale]

same category of person that kills lizard doggos

unless its to get rid of waste, we dont talk about that

[reef basin]

isn't that everyone?

[golden nexus]

Yeah, Don't attack lizzard doggo's, lure them onto jump pads aimed at the ciff instead

[real shale]

the waste removal doggo doesnt count!

i can just imagine the scene with thanos getting the soul stone, except its a lizard doggo getting thrown off a cliff to remove waste

[broken quarry]

nah it was this giant guy

[real shale]

Bean didnt deserve it #JusticeForBean

[versed cosmos]

i do wish we could just walk up to them and press a button to relocate them to somewhere they wont be stuck

[real shale]

why cant i ride them

[broken quarry]

optimized https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1450314922855760034/image.png?ex=69421687&is=6940c507&hm=2a321a48d5fa83d5fb85d5649289e9b932ecfb6cc212357598ae849d30b56370&

[real shale]

Theres an issue with this image

[broken quarry]

I think I can replicate this easier?

[hard stump]

Ok new complaint of the day I discover I can just make a belt loop in a tiny circle all I wanna to is go round and round and round but my character keeps slowly going off. Coffee stain fix it lol 🤣

[real shale]

There is screws in it

[broken quarry]

Im in tier 3 soooo

[reef basin]

that's hardly an issue

[versed cosmos]

if you go for 2 assemblers the numbers are very clean

[broken quarry]

wdym

[golden nexus]

yeah.. so if your concentred about space build another above it... btw all the basic machine slike assembler need about 3 wall sections high for the floor hight to the next floor

[real shale]

Ada laughed at me for getting screws in my advent calandar, so i made screws extinct as a result

[versed cosmos]

120 iron ore in, send 90 to 3 constructors making plates and 30 to screws

[golden nexus]

we suspect this is not optimal... you are making 40/min screws in each constructor? in which case your making 80/min rather than the required 60/min by the assembler

[versed cosmos]

do you have the cast screw alt recipe?

[versed cosmos]

yeah if you run two assemblers you can run 3 constructors and split the 2nd one's output

[golden nexus]

Yup

Was just about to explain that you make 40+40+40 and split the middle to make 20 go each side for 60+60

which also means each assembler needs 30 plates, which is 3 constructors worth

[versed cosmos]

although i personally run two constructors making the cast screw alt at 120% overclock

[reef basin]

I mean the actual item as a product is not very useful

[golden nexus]

I run them under often at 50% assembler and then just spam floors

[broken quarry]

so I have to move my plate production too?

[versed cosmos]

yeah screws in your inventory is only used for the awesome shop i think?

[golden nexus]

dunno....

[reef basin]

that, and a few unlocks and equipment

[broken quarry]

I only have 3 constructors making plates

[golden nexus]

bunch of stuff... you just lift them from machine later

[golden nexus]

Yeah so if you have 2 assemblers making rplate it will want to consume all of that... which means you need more plate for use of plate elsewhere

where you are in the grass fields has lots of little iron nodes for this....

[versed cosmos]

also in this image i think that's a mk1 belt after the merger?

mk1 belt can only handle 60 items/min and it looks like you're trying to feed it 80

[golden nexus]

btw.. the game does not give things like a mk2 smelter, constructor, assembler etc... only mk2/mk3 miners

[versed cosmos]

a mk2 fuel generator would be incredible tbh

the only other mk2 building i would want

[broken quarry]

so just pull in raw iron? and go from there?

[versed cosmos]

even at 250% overclock a big fuel plant needs dozens

[golden nexus]

You can overclock/underclock machines using power shares but when you double them.. they use a lot more power than 2 machines

[golden nexus]

Yup

[versed cosmos]

about the cost of 2.5 machines right?

ik it's not as much as 3 anyway

[golden nexus]

dont know th emaths for it

but like 2.5 is 3.5-4 ish

[sudden flint]

so essencially making yourself a supply of stators is useless because barely anything uses them, including buildings...?

[golden nexus]

late same....

[versed cosmos]

yeah kinda

also crash sites seem to have them in abundance

[reef basin]

making supply of X is almost useless if X is not used for buildings

[versed cosmos]

maybe its just cause i use the other stuff but not the stators lol

[golden nexus]

stators are for motors but also for control rods for nuclear

I have a 300/min stator factory lol

[versed cosmos]

and i just made a 30/min factory thinking theyd be good to sink

had a pure copper node i was only half using lol

[golden nexus]

Its stator + ai limiter = control rod.

[golden nexus]

here ya go #screenshots message

[sudden flint]

right, but making aline specifically for stators specifically is pretty much no point

[versed cosmos]

wild

tbh i think i could build this but i dont like building big platforms in the sky or over open ocean

[golden nexus]

You need them for motors early game.. so you need them yes

[sudden flint]

yes, but making stators as a finished product isn't useful is what I'm saying

they're pretty much just good as an intermediate product

[golden nexus]

Yeah they don't craft things now

they used to be used in power storage

[silent heron]

Has anyone noticed the pioneer has jiggle physics on her chest? Tried looking it up but couldn't find anything about it, thought it was funny

[whole drum]

No, because I play in first person

[silent heron]

I do to, only noticed it when I rag dolled myself after death

[versed cosmos]

lmao WHAT

[silent heron]

The chest was jiggling around aggressively like light jello

[whole drum]

Pio doesn't have much of a chest to notice tbh

[umbral rover]

im like fr about to crash out why do the valves say 30min but the flow will only allow 28.3

[whole drum]

Though I'm sure some "Skyrim" mods could change that

[versed cosmos]

because valves are very strange

[dense violet]

because valves aren't good at limiting flow

[whole drum]

Valves are bad. Delete them.

[dense violet]

don't use them

[umbral rover]

ofc they aren't

[dense violet]

do you know what actually limits flow?

the consumption rate of the machines 😛

[umbral rover]

its not like its their only mfing purpose or anything

[dense violet]

it's not.
they have no real purpose.

[sudden flint]

YOU APOLOGIZE TO BECKY. ADA CALLS HER FLAT AND IT'S SO RUDE.

[dense violet]

because machines are the flow limiters

[umbral rover]

bs

[whole drum]

Becky is an HR name. I have no respect for her.

[dense violet]

you don't believe machines limit flow based on consumption?

[whole drum]

Apparently the leftover just phases through or something

[dense violet]

Apparently

[versed cosmos]

why are you building with leftover

[umbral rover]

the refineries i have are hooked up to 600 m of oil and the pipe lines keep tweaking like a iu8 student

[dense violet]

yeah, you' probably need a better pipe layout

you can make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images

[silent heron]

I've seen this said a lot but having some personal experience I believe pioneer is actually packing a lot, they are wearing a heavy duty rubberized undershirt from the looks of it which that by itself can conceal a lot but then on top of that is heavy duty overalls.

The fact you can still clearly see the chest bulging underneath it all would be she is very much not flat

[dense violet]

we can diagnose it

[sudden flint]

BECKY/MONICA/BRY IS AN ADORABLE SUGAR BEAN, A STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN, AND 5 TIMES THE PIONEER YOU WILL EVER BE

[versed cosmos]

we desperately need new content bruh 1.2 cannot come sooner

[whole drum]

And will never get asked out

[silent heron]

I just got onto the game

[dense violet]

hope you like planning logistics 🙂

[silent heron]

150 hours in already and I just got to the phase that let's me extract oil

[sudden flint]

She is alone on an alien exoplanet.

[whole drum]

Phase 3

[versed cosmos]

oil is so good man

[sudden flint]

no dip

[versed cosmos]

call me the united states i LOVE oil

[jaunty jewel]

anyone want to volunteer to do my maths hw for me

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1443130650617057331

[versed cosmos]

no but this is genuinely a really good place to ask lmao

[silent heron]

How important is oil?

[jaunty jewel]

one of the most important resources

[whole drum]

Just use Satisfactory Tools

[dense violet]

use a planner https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[jaunty jewel]

i dont mean tell mthe answers, i mean literally write it down for me so i can go to sleep

[zenith pecan]

Pretty important, it is a large step up in power, provides rubber & plastic which are used in later products and construction.

[lost rapids]

Good morning :)

[dense violet]

the planner will do that

[versed cosmos]

gonna be your main power source for the rest of the game its so good that nuclear is completely optional

[silent heron]

Ah, so grab it all

[zenith pecan]

Probably helps if I hit reply, sorry.

[jaunty jewel]

hey if satis tools can write on paper for me thatd be impressive

[zenith pecan]

Not all of it, just enough to solve power & provide parts to make subsequent projects & build with.

[whole drum]

Don't you all have phones printers?!

[dense violet]

print the results, done

[jaunty jewel]

and make it obvious i worked online instead of doing it myself

[versed cosmos]

how hard maths homework are we talking about here

[whole drum]

If you're supposed to do it yourself, you should

[jaunty jewel]

its easy

[silk ocean]

Have a printer but almost never use it these days

[jaunty jewel]

maths in general is not very difficult i just cant be bothered lol

[whole drum]

So don't do it and just accept the grade

[dense violet]

that's why you use a tool. a satisfactory tool

[jaunty jewel]

(i actually came here as an excuse to do something OTHER than my homework for a little bit)

[silent heron]

I have completely absorbed every Iron and Copper node in the dessert biome, I'm also producing around 5k copper ingots a minute and I just got into phase 3, from my understanding my current play style is bat shit

I must Extract ALL resources

[jaunty jewel]

i will accept the A* yes

[versed cosmos]

ADA would be proud

[zenith pecan]

And here's me turning just two iron nodes into 4800 steel ingots as a byproduct of making a colossal rocket fuel installation.

[silent heron]

Speaking of which, when the hell does copper become needed in vast amounts if at all?

[jaunty jewel]

phase 4

[zenith pecan]

Copper powder.

[jaunty jewel]

and phase 5

yeah that

[silent heron]

And beyond?

[versed cosmos]

50000 copper ingots to make 0.1 copper powder

[whole drum]

When the tweakers arrive at your factory

[jaunty jewel]

i mean you "finish the game" once you "complete" phase 5

[silent heron]

Fair enough

[jaunty jewel]

so it depends if you want to go beyond or not

you definitely can if you want to

[silk ocean]

I've probably played about 3 times the hours on this factory since "completing the game"

[silent heron]

Up to this point I had been completely automating everything that needed copper with iron wire so it left the gigantic copper smelter I built basically unused

[jaunty jewel]

youll start needing copper sheets in large(r) quantities for different things eventually

iron wire is a good recipe since iron is so abundant but its output per machine is so painfully low that it takes up the entire map to make 1 item

[silent heron]

Yeah....

I've noticed

[sudden flint]

buh. but the super efficient reinforced iron plates!

[silent heron]

That to I love

[versed cosmos]

tbh for rips i dont mind screws

[silent heron]

What is Caterium primarily used for?

[versed cosmos]

quickwire and then stuff that needs quickwire

[sudden flint]

I dunno. AI limiters and alternate computers I guess?

[versed cosmos]

anything that needs caterium as an input needs it as quickwire

[silk ocean]

All sorts of things, usually electronics related

[silent heron]

Is it critical to directly progressing the game?

[silk ocean]

Vagues yes, unless possible to workaround with alt recipes, it's easy to get at least

[silent heron]

Everything related to it looks optional

[silk ocean]

Why avoid it for now, it's no big deal to use

[tawny flower]

guys which alternate recipe should i pick: cast screws or iron pipes

[jaunty jewel]

i mean its up to you more than anything, do you need pipes or screws more? would you rather save machines on making cast screws then making rods then screws? are you going to avoid screws entirely? are you going to make steel rods then screws? are you willing to spend more iron to make pipes?

lots of questions you can ask yourself

[silk ocean]

If you're getting all recipes, it doesn't really matter which you pick, take the one that you are most likely to make use of now

[tawny flower]

hmmmmmmmm good point

[tawny flower]

im not planning on that

right now i need alot of screws

[silent heron]

Im not avoiding it, I'm just wondering if its a completely optional resource that when exploited would make things easier.

Basically if its important later on for something mission critical I don't want to mess with it until that point

[silk ocean]

Take the screws then

[tawny flower]

alr

[jaunty jewel]

i personally do not like cast screws but i do like iron pipes so its a no brainer, but if i was even earlier on (phase 1) i wouldve gone with screws

[jaunty jewel]

every resource is needed at some point

except uranium **

[silk ocean]

Things like alt recipe Caterium Computer is pretty useful, it really depends on your factory / how you want to do things. No right or wrong in Satisfac

There are arguably better or more productive recipes and ways to do things but any setup is fine, if it works it's good

[jaunty jewel]

heavy encased frame:

[broken quarry]

do you use that alte game?

[jaunty jewel]

i just dont use any other hmf recipe becuase theres no point

[silent heron]

Ahh

Thanks

[jaunty jewel]

would i rather spend £10 for a bottle of coke or £1 for a bottle of coke (given that both bottles are identical)

[silent heron]

I'm coming from Factorio as a mega factory builder, my current factory floor is a quarter of the dune dessert:>

[silk ocean]

Just don't build a bus 😉

[silent heron]

Don't see a need for one

[silk ocean]

They don't work well in Satisfac either xD

[silent heron]

I've seen

However what I've seen wasn't being done right, the tools you have that would be needed only exist on a vertical plane practically

That being the double storage container

[dense violet]

wdym?

[silent heron]

Well if I have it right, the belt splitter in factorio doesn't mechanically exist in satisfactory, something that can take two inputs and balance them out in two outputs within a single building/tool.

The double cargo container can and does this, so in theory you'd want to build a vertical bus so belt balancing would be easier

[dense violet]

the double container also doesn't do this
it has variable priority

[dense violet]

just split both belts in two and merge one of each

[dense violet]

but also - this game is very different from factorio. It's about dedicated production and consumption

[silent heron]

Wdym?

[dense violet]

on loading the game it'll prioritise one out put over the other and it feeds from stacks - so you won't get an even output

it's weird. Just don't use it as a balancer

[dense violet]

but also - this is what machine clocking and selectively merging belts is for

clock a group of machines to put what you need on a belt in the first place

[silent heron]

I've never had a issue with this

[dense violet]

because even if it becomes unbalanced it'll be a manifold. Just a dumb more complicated one

[silk ocean]

All of a sudden my trains are starting to do random weird things, I wonder if the server is starting to struggle with 90 of them... Had some random crashes at path intersections, logged in now and a train is just randomly stopped at a green signal in automatic mode. Tried turning off/on, in the end had to delete the signal... urgh xD

[cunning lily]

Have the sevs talked about expanding the world later with DLCs?

[silent heron]

If enough items are in the container both belts will leave the container completely full?

My brain might not be braining rn

[dense violet]

don't stress - just be aware that double containers won't actually act like balancers if you really need them to balance things out

[sudden flint]

does the hoverpack actually use electricity when connected to your grid?

[whole drum]

A tiny amount

Unless they changed it

[dense violet]

100mw

[obtuse pine]

does anyone know where to start for a relatively new player? i tried grass fields, and the resources are wayy too far apart to build an actual factory.

[silk ocean]

Hellalottapower for a hoverpack

[dense violet]

that's how it is - the game forces you to spread out and use logistics tools

[silk ocean]

You could run a town on 100 MW

[dense violet]

the grassy fields gives you wide open spaces to try thigns out

[real shale]

and with that i finally have gotten the star trinket, now back to saving the world :D

[wicked nacelle]

You're in crazy trouble if you keep playing the game if you think that's too far apart

[sudden flint]

I like the rocky desert because lizard doggo cave isn't far off, as well as early blade runners, the prototype helmet, and good spots for caterium depending on where you're setting up :)

[dense violet]

Dune desert might be a little easier as you don't have a ton of spiders near the crystal supply - but thats a minor difference

[cunning lily]

Long belts are valid. This game favors large scale. And you'll likely soon be building several factories as you expand and explore the map.

Grasslands is an amazing start.

[feral jay]

I started in the rocky desert this save

Coal is much closer but otherwise, it's basically the same in terms of difficulty

[whole drum]

I don't like using long belts, but it's hard to justify a full train system when I just need like 240 of one thing from A to B

[glass canopy]

does anyone know if i can run satisfactory on linux? my windows shat itself

[feral jay]

Yeah but that works once or twice, not so much a hundred times

[feral jay]

I'm running it on linux sice like update 5 I think? Works great

[silent heron]

I see, good thing I haven't done that yet, i had planned to XD

[whole drum]

But I don't need to do that a hundred times, generally. If you use the "independancy" method, you don't have to do it very often at all.

[glass canopy]

did you have to change anything on steam for that? i cant seem to launch it

[limpid cairn]

sf supports Vulkan so why wouldn’t you be able to play it on Linux?

[feral jay]

There might have been one flag, specific to my GPU?

It was pretty seamless

[limpid cairn]

Probably need to force Vulkan on startup but I’m no expert

[whole drum]

I play it on Linux. It works great.

[feral jay]

Yeah I may have had to force a specific vulkan or directx version

[dense violet]

honestly, imo? just treat the tiers like a tutorial where you learn stuff. And after you unlock everything you basically ahve sandbox mode for your own projects

[wicked nacelle]

it works fine aon steam deck, so yeah

[whole drum]

They built Proton largely for SteamOS, but it works on most of the popular distros.

[glass canopy]

trying this rn :)

is there a way to see crash logs?

[whole drum]

I've used it on Mint without any real issue, and currently using it on Nobara.

[silk ocean]

Cyberpunk 2077 runs very nicely natively on Linux I have discovered

[feral jay]

bah I can't link protondb

[zealous urchin]

stop hyping linux, i dont wanna learn it

[limpid cairn]

If you don’t know how to force Vulkan on start up Put -vulkan into the launch option on steam

[jaunty jewel]

yes but linux linux linux

[limpid cairn]

But don’t you have a 5090 custom China version with a r7 9800x3d or something

It be surprised if it didn’t run smooth

[silk ocean]

Not quite that good xD 4090 / 13900K

[zealous urchin]

Cursed Technique: Windows Lamentation, Linux Learning Liberation

[feral jay]

I have it set for Proton Experimental and the -vulkan launch option

On an RTX2070

[limpid cairn]

Isn’t the 4090 better if you don’t use the ai thingy on a 5090 btw?

[jaunty jewel]

linux linux linux (im a windows user)

[whole drum]

It's worth it, but has caveats. Certain games don't work on it because they require kernel-level access for their anti-cheat--something I don't want them having anyway.

There's not a lot to learn right away if you get a beginner-friendly distro like Nobara, then you can learn as you go. If/When you find it limiting, you learn and advance to something less hand-holdy.

[silk ocean]

Framegen? I generally avoid that. Tried it in Horizon Forbidden West and it just feels weird and glitchy. More frames but less smooth

[zealous urchin]

so its game specific then

[whole drum]

But not having all of M$ spyware/malware or Apple's proprietary garbage built into the system is sooo nice.

[jaunty jewel]

i love microsoft it is my favourite company ever

[whole drum]

Only the ones with those kinds of anti-cheat. Most other things work.

[silk ocean]

Use Winaero Tweaker and disable all the telemetry and tweak away all the other shite xD

[zealous urchin]

would u count in HD2 as those anti cheat games then? my friend played HD2 on linux but idk

[whole drum]

No. HD2 works.

[limpid cairn]

Pretty sure there’s only 3 games nowadays that you can’t play on Linux and those are bad competitive games iirc

[whole drum]

It isn't that "no* anti-cheat works on it, just certain kinds.

[whole drum]

Or gachas

[silk ocean]

And if you want Windows 7, 8, 10 taskbar / start menu, I recommend StartAllBack, really good

[zealous urchin]

lmao true

[jaunty jewel]

i dont know why i was surprised to find out that like half the people here are linux users

[limpid cairn]

You can run genshin and wuwa on Linux pretty sure

[zealous urchin]

maybe its time to start learning it then

[jaunty jewel]

oh no! anyways

[silent heron]

I have belts spanning across entire bioms for my "Starting" base

[feral jay]

THe point being, yes, Satisfactory runs well on Linux

[silk ocean]

I haven't seen a game run quite as well on Linux as Windows, personally, even though many run very well in general

[zealous urchin]

zatie zaite zatie

[feral jay]

But good luck finding your savegame directory lol

[silk ocean]

cat cat cat of santa claus

[limpid cairn]

Linux isn’t as uncommon as it used to be since Microsoft does a horrible job of keeping windows good lol

[zealous urchin]

forcing ppl to use google translator

[silk ocean]

Windows gets more of a bashing than it deserves, I've literally never had a problem with 11 (or 10 or 7)

[versed cosmos]

Because they hide the rampant data harvesting from you lol

[whole drum]

It's not that different, really. Most of your games are in your .wine folder.

[silk ocean]

I did spanish at school, can remember a few words lol

[limpid cairn]

Imo it’s still good I just dislike them putting ai into w11 soon

[jaunty jewel]

wdym microsoft is the bestest company ever, wdym you dont want microsoft edge running in the background using ~200mb of ram even though its not even on startup apps?

[zealous urchin]

lucky you, i had to bear german and meme italian

[limpid cairn]

Jokes on you I have edge deleted

[silk ocean]

Copilot is just an "app", you don't have to run it

[whole drum]

The thing that turned me away from them forever was when they announced their AI spyware that screenshots everything you do and they pinky-promise is "optional" and only "stored locally." Yeah, fuck that. I've seen how feature creep works with Games for Windows, Cortana, Live, and other shit I didn't want bloating my system.

[jaunty jewel]

woah hold on

[whole drum]

No

[jaunty jewel]

actually it doesnt matter the british governmment watches everything i do anyways

[umbral rover]

fixed it

[versed cosmos]

yooo me too

[zealous urchin]

your liberty, hand it over

[whole drum]

Linux is nice and light weight, doesn't have a ton of garbage I don't want, and is fully customizable.

[jaunty jewel]

from what i found out you unironically get a longer prison sentence if you say mean things online than if you stab someone and kill them

thats if whatever sources they are are trustworthy

[limpid cairn]

We don’t want to go under mass surveillance

[versed cosmos]

yeah i dont quite believe that one lol

[silk ocean]

I don't think MS are the enemy tbh.. there are worse things out there

[jaunty jewel]

actually no, its knife crime thats max 4 years prison

"carrying a knife illegally" or whatever

and saying mean things online is 5 years

apparently

[limpid cairn]

Right, our enemy is the government.

[whole drum]

Yeah, like Glock

[zealous urchin]

pretty sure poisoned food and water is worse than surveilence

[silk ocean]

I'd say so xD

[jaunty jewel]

ok no more politics this wont end well for anyone

go back to placing constructors

[zealous urchin]

brrrrr u are being mindwarped into hating on windows brrrrr

[silk ocean]

I can recommend refineries instead xD

[zealous urchin]

NO

refineries are pure disdain deserving

[limpid cairn]

It’s funny once you hear some political opinions from here lol

[jaunty jewel]

i will not be sharing my political opinions

[silk ocean]

I don't really have anything against WIndows, it works, does the job. I'd like to go Linux some day if game support actually matures fully

[whole drum]

I don't think hating Windows is political. It's just logical.

[limpid cairn]

Im talking about another fella here, don’t worry

[feral jay]

smart

[silk ocean]

I don't think anyone has expressed political opinion

[jaunty jewel]

idk was just referring to what he said

[zealous urchin]

like decrease in food quality is political but i wont go further with this

[silk ocean]

Not really

[whole drum]

Can be, doesn't have to be

[versed cosmos]

lets change the subject dont yall love those alt recipes that take MORE screws?

so good man i cant get enough screws

[limpid cairn]

Go away with screws

[feral jay]

Nah, quickwire is where it's at

[versed cosmos]

screws are awesome man

[limpid cairn]

Im a member of the as (anti screws)

[versed cosmos]

let me get 1000 screws/min

[limpid cairn]

❌

[versed cosmos]

bolted plate and bolted frames are where its at

[jaunty jewel]

thtas nothing

[whole drum]

Screws are too political. Y'all need to stop it already.

[feral jay]

Just ran railroad from Crater Lake to the Islands

Sweet sweet smokeless powder coming my way soon

[zealous urchin]

reeducation camp entry speedrun

[silk ocean]

Eliminate screws from your life.... for a good life XD

[gentle lion]

Steel screws

[feral jay]

I tend to keep a large library of alt recipes available, so I can plan factories without screws

[reef basin]

I can play basically my whole steam library on linux

[silk ocean]

With Proton, yea

[versed cosmos]

did yall know steel rods > screws gives the most screws per iron ingot

[limpid cairn]

Now try booting up games like valorant 🤔

[reef basin]

I don't play valorant 🤷

[broken quarry]

now play almost any game with anti cheat

[reef basin]

easy

[limpid cairn]

There’s like 5 games you can’t play then, wow.

[reef basin]

the only game(s) that I'm aware of that are not possible are things that run Vanguard anticheat (League, Valorant, etc.)

[jaunty jewel]

noo those are such good games your missing out on so much

[zealous urchin]

iron ingot? u must have meant aluminum ingot

[gentle lion]

Is stitched iron plate a good choice?

[feral jay]

Not an issue for me, I generally don't play competitive games

[reef basin]

if you like it, it is good choice

[silk ocean]

Another big problem I've continually encountered with Linux is poor hardware video decode support in Chromium based browsers and nvidia cards, although it's finally getting better. But even when testing recently with it enabled, YT still uses a ludicrous amount of CPU where as Windows uses like 1%

[broken quarry]

EAC has minimum like 200 games

[dense violet]

most recipes 'value' depends on the othe recipes you attach to it 🙂

[limpid cairn]

and?

[gentle lion]

Well seems easier to make more wire than screws.

[limpid cairn]

you can still play EAC games on Linux

[broken quarry]

you cant for the most part

[feral jay]

True but it's hard to argue with cast screws or encased frames

Or any of the pure recipes

[mild shale]

The grind to get 1k tickets for golden nut is brutal

[dense violet]

cast screws arre... mostly useful early game imo

also fuck refineries and pure recipes 😛

[feral jay]

Hook every factory up to a sink and let them all run at 100%, it'll happen eventually

[gentle lion]

I have been going around adding awesome sinks to all my production lines

[feral jay]

I suppose the pure recipes are situational, you always need water

[mild shale]

Yeah it's just boring. Sitting around doing nothing lol

[limpid cairn]

that means?

[leaden arch]

Just did the math if you get all 92,100/min iron ore on the map you can make 13/7 of that with pure iron in refineries which is 171,042.86/min ingots which gives you x4 for 684,171.43/min screws

[feral jay]

Go on an adventure!

[dense violet]

it's mostly the refineries I hate and the number of them.

you'd need 3 refineries for hte same output of 1 foundry >.> for copper

[reef basin]

it's pretty easy to argue with cast screws 😉 they remove possibility to use steel/alu rod

[feral jay]

It's not even the refineries I hate per se, it's also that they're not very blueprintable

[robust nova]

Hey all, having some trouble with my coal power plant and not sure what is going on. i just got mark 3 miners and I went to my coal power plant for the first time since I built it to add on (I started this world recently in 1.0). I upgraded my belts, added the pipes and pumps for new water needs, water extractors already in place. the first 5 in the line is not getting water

[zealous urchin]

very Civ 5 samurai portret like

[feral jay]

Screenshots would be helpful

[robust nova]

working on that rioght now

[dense violet]

make a #1038092680493801533 and post overhead iamges there

[leaden arch]

Hey you're the first to notice. The Civ 5 wiki has all the tech, building, and unit portraits and they're already circles, perfect for discord pfps

[zealous urchin]

man i played the shhhhh of that game
its already etched on my brainstem

[leaden arch]

Civ 5 best Civ no doubt, with Vox Populi mod

[feral jay]

I haven't even tried 7 yet

[leaden arch]

The best way is to not

[zealous urchin]

imma Civ 5 purist too but modless

i havent played with mods

so idk about them

[feral jay]

I do remember the naval combat AI being hopelessly broken in Civ 5

[leaden arch]

It's a vanilla plus sort of mod. It's the real game in the eyes of a good chunk of the community

[zealous urchin]

alright

[lost rapids]

Uh, pretty surprised there is not a single mod for patterns.

[robust nova]

Posted

[magic rune]

...nice, it looks like if i have a truck stop that only supplies fuel (it's neither load nor unload), merely having a truck autopilot path go through it does refuel it

[broken quarry]

I still cant figure out how to make an efficient site for Rplates

[strong fiber]

wdym

[broken quarry]

this is what I have right now https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1450314922855760034/image.png?ex=69421687&is=6940c507&hm=2a321a48d5fa83d5fb85d5649289e9b932ecfb6cc212357598ae849d30b56370&

[magic rune]

funny enough, this is my third playthrough (Upd8, 1.0, and now Modded 1.1) and it's literally the first time i've tried actually using non-train vehicle transport instead of just... kilometer-long belt and pipe pylons

[dense violet]

seems fine?

[strong fiber]

looks fine to me

[broken quarry]

not from what everyone told me earlier, I need more plates coming I only have 3 constructers making plates at the moment and 3 constructors making rods

I dont know how to make it more efficient to have say 10 assemblers

[dense violet]

make a plan with satisfactory tools like this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=YPNz739SpHVXHqXxEblX

[strong fiber]

i suggest making two assemblers making rplates because its a better number of constructors 3 constructors for plates

[dense violet]

click on the link and look at the basic layout of it

[broken quarry]

woah this makes things wayyyyyyyy easier

[strong fiber]

it tells you exactly how much you need of everything

[jaunty jewel]

well start with looking at what you need in one assembler, multiply that by how many assemblers you want and there you go thats how many of each part you need

if you need 20 plates and you only have 10 then you need more plates, if you have 60 plates but only need 20 then you could either save them, use them or change them to something else

[dense violet]

all it is is working backwards 😛 and doing the math.

but a planner does it for you yes.

[strong fiber]

I always work backwards

Also i gotta plan out an aluminum factory i just realized

give me 5 min

[silk ocean]

Mission today is SloopReclamationProject™

[hollow turret]

if i were to post clips of satisfacotry where would i put them?

[strong fiber]

i got a question does every new thing u unlock in phase 4 require aluminum

[reef basin]

#streams-and-videos

[magic rune]

quite a lot does, yeah. you need a solid aluminum factory asap, as soon as you've unlocked it

[strong fiber]

i unlocked it just gotta get the alternates and build it

[hollow turret]

ok

[magic rune]

...also i'm a massive globin, my versframe factory was only running at 1/4 capacity... because the steel ingot tower output belt running into it was only Mk1, because i mixed up "the beams need a Mk1 belt" and "the materials to make the beams is actually 240/min"

[strong fiber]

i have done that before

[zealous urchin]

globbin'

[broken quarry]

wait im confused so if I need to do 90/m is the only solution faster conveyers?

[strong fiber]

either faster conveyors or you split it up

If u need 90/min it might take more machines but split it up into 45/min

[glass canopy]

Hi

[strong fiber]

So do i need to turn all the aluminum ingots into casings and sheets or just some

[zealous urchin]

u need some sheets and rest is casings

sheets are for belts

casings for everything else other than heat sink

[strong fiber]

ok

Im tryna figure out how much bauxite i need

[magic rune]

the answer is always "yes"

[broken quarry]

so 2 smelters is the max for one iron node?

[strong fiber]

If theres 12300 in the world i take half of that and bring it to my factory would that be enough or too much

Then i use trains to ship it out to my later game factories

[magic rune]

depends how Mega™ you're trying to build, i think my 1.0 save i got away with full usage of only two pure bauxite nodes? one for space elevator factory and one for everything else

[strong fiber]

In my opinion i build factories on the larger side

So maybe 3000 bauxite?

2000 3000 bauxite probably

its also my first play through of the game so i wouldn’t know that

Im at 80 hours right now

[versed cosmos]

swamp is a decent place for aluminium im about to build my first big set up there

[strong fiber]

I have a train network around there too

[versed cosmos]

3 nodes in the middle and once you can access resource wells you can use electrode scrap which is way cheaper

• you can do oil stuff with the water byproduct

[strong fiber]

Also what is all the alternates i need again i forgot

[versed cosmos]

sloppy alumina and pure aluminium ingot are the meta choices i think

much simplified production at the cost of less ingots per bauxite

[strong fiber]

Awesome

[zealous urchin]

let me introduce you to the isntant crap
(dont take that)

[strong fiber]

Is instant scrap good

[versed cosmos]

"dont take that" would imply not

[strong fiber]

Oh its ahh

[zenith pecan]

Instant crap has its place, I personally dislike it.

[dense violet]

imo it's not terrible for smaller scale systems

but wouldn't do it with larger

just kinda inconvenient with the layout of resources

I think it falls into a category that the way humans design things it's not super common to want to go that way.

[sweet jacinth]

Curious. Does anyone know what mk belts to use so that programmable splitters don't skip items? Mine are letting items go by which sucks because I just created a storage room with every item in the splitter.

[dense violet]

just use your fastest belts everywhere

[versed cosmos]

if your input belt is faster than the output belt some items are going to be missed because the output cant pull items fast enough

[dense violet]

also - just use smart splitters

set one side to ITEM , and the other path as over flow

[strong fiber]

Could 600 aluminum casings a minute and 300 sheets a minute be enough

[sweet jacinth]

I used programmable because I seen it happened with smart.

[zenith pecan]

Without context, nobody can really answer, we don't know your industry or plans of other things.

[sweet jacinth]

I used all mk 5 belts so I'm not sure how else to fix it.

[broken quarry]

Im so confused Im about to rage quit 😭

[versed cosmos]

What are you confused about?

[strong fiber]

Thats why i said could but nvm

[broken quarry]

just stressing over how to place stuff to have enough space

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images

plus images of how you've set your splitters

[sweet jacinth]

Ok ty

[dense violet]

what now?

[dense violet]

you have infinite space in the game - and you're just learning. Just build things and learn and you'll get better at designing

[broken quarry]

noted

[strong fiber]

I dont think anyone ever run out of space on the map before

[dense violet]

their computer would catch fire before taking up 10% of it

[strong fiber]

Resources yes physical space no

[versed cosmos]

technically not infinite space but practically yes infinite space

[broken quarry]

I put my smelters to close together and needed to split my smelters so I had to delete my work and start over

[dense violet]

that's learning

[versed cosmos]

deleting and starting over is part of the game especially at that point

[whole drum]

I've found best practice to be to put smelters on their own foundations and not touch/share them with each other

[dense violet]

just assume the first time yo ubuild any type of new system it'll be garbage

and you get better every time

[broken quarry]

how much space should I leave between smelter?

[dense violet]

you can put the mright next to each other if you want

[silk ocean]

Zero xD

[versed cosmos]

putting them right next to each other makes it more difficult to belt them to constructors because the constructors are wider than the smelters

[silk ocean]

Output manifold

[broken quarry]

thats the issue Im having lol

[versed cosmos]

i think he might only have mk1 belts

[silk ocean]

That could be a problem xD

[broken quarry]

I have mk2 but few Rplates

[versed cosmos]

and for plates its easier to just run a smelter into a constructor

[broken quarry]

this is an rplate factory

[zealous urchin]

demon

[minor owl]

you should be able to handcraft enough plates to make a small rplate factory surely

[broken quarry]

there is six smelters but I need to split smelter 3 into two and dont have space

[versed cosmos]

how many rips are you trying to make?

[broken quarry]

15/m

[versed cosmos]

might be easier to just make 10

i think we mentioned that earlier

the numbers work out really well

[broken quarry]

so x5 is bad vs x10?

[versed cosmos]

yeah

[dense violet]

clock machines to groups you need

make multiple floors if you like xD Just use more space.

[magic rune]

yeah, gotta use the third dimension in this game, it's your biggest advantage (and becomes fully open once you have a hoverpack, but that needs aluminum like nobody's business)

[versed cosmos]

jetpack makes it doable

even blade runners and the zipline give you plenty of movement

[zealous urchin]

hoverpack is strongest

[magic rune]

i suppose... i just like the pseudo creative mode style flying

[feral jay]

I just rush the hoverpack with handcrafting, you can find enough aluminum at crash sites and whatnot

[zealous urchin]

coupon purshase -> milestone rush

[magic rune]

well, it still requires being able to unlock it, so for the first three phases i'm stuck sad on the ground :/ jetpack, parachute, and ladders can only do so much

[feral jay]

Or that, yes

[zealous urchin]

S tier strat

[silk ocean]

Is there a console command to see item count?

[magic rune]

in my 1.0 save i made my entire space elevator factory, itself a space elevator, just constantly building upward like the One Saturday Morning building

[zealous urchin]

i plan to make space elevator like building that will have hyperloop canons around it catapulting you to different places on map

[silk ocean]

You can steer to most locations from one cannon

[broken quarry]

ok so Im at 10/m to make more do I just need to get more iron or?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1450363079341637808/image.png?ex=69424360&is=6940f1e0&hm=c16cc3ccf0ba9fbd99a5714f5ee59aba29d888f301264485a5c3a358e011cdbc&

[silk ocean]

Iron Ore looks backed up ?

[versed cosmos]

not sure whats going on with the splitters and merger between the constructors for iron rods and screws

[feral jay]

This is getting annopying, my doggos keep teleporting through walls and foundations

[versed cosmos]

also when you merge your screws make sure the belt between the merger and splitter is mk2

[broken quarry]

2 rod constructors to 3 screw constructors

[broken quarry]

3 smelters but only 2 are being used the last one isnt connected

[versed cosmos]

but why do you have splitters in front of both constructors for rods

just merge the rods and then split them

[broken quarry]

this does 2x4 vs 3x2 saves a little space

if not I have to move to the left

[versed cosmos]

you can absolutely fit just a merger and splitter in there

[silk ocean]

I guess just replicate more smelters and constructors until you can get faster belts and do a manifold

[broken quarry]

I mean even if I used mk2 belts Id still need another iron reserve or better miners

[silk ocean]

(or stick with the Smelter --> Constructor design, which is valid too)

[minor owl]

do you have power shards unlocked?

[dense violet]

that happens.

you could use the plan I linked you that only needs 120 pm

[versed cosmos]

wait arent the nodes in that location normal nodes?

[primal ice]

yall should incorporate actual programming in the game

[dense violet]

there's static resource aquisition and static production... what would that do?

[minor owl]

you could do some crazy stuff with it but its definitely not really necessary for anything thats part of regular gameplay

[broken quarry]

nope

[zealous urchin]

zatie zatei zatie

[broken quarry]

fixed lol I see it now

[minor owl]

ah. those would really really help with your factory planning

[broken quarry]

ok first alt biocoal or steamed copper sheet?

[versed cosmos]

leave in the mam

[feral jay]

steamed copper, but yeah don't select it until you need it

[zealous urchin]

steamed copper sheet is nice

[minor owl]

if they kinda suck and you dont desperately need to roll for something you can just leave it there to remove them from the pool of random alts

[versed cosmos]

some recipes genuinely have more value staying in the mam lol

[feral jay]

I generally leave all the recipes in the mam until I need one

[versed cosmos]

that's the way to do it

[whole drum]

Some recipes are auto-buy for me: the pure recipes, steel screws, diluted fuel, irone wire, etc

[versed cosmos]

idk if it's just the way i build but i've never needed iron wire

iron PIPE though is incredible

[whole drum]

You never "need" it, but it can make some things simpler

[feral jay]

Iron wire is nice becuase it can eliminate the need for copper in some builds

[cunning glade]

hey chat what are tips for like starting and making nice global train networks cuz i wanna make them 2 lanes i think but idk

[versed cosmos]

definitely 2 lanes

[whole drum]

If you have iron pipe and wire, you can use just iron to make motors

[feral jay]

2 lanes, you'll regret it if you do just one

[versed cosmos]

2 lanes is modular

you can always add a new station or add more trains to an existing line

1 lane can only handle 1 train or you have to add passing spots which hurts your throughput

[cunning glade]

yeah def 2 spots

or lanes idk why i said spots

idk just used mp for a global network last time cuz it overwhelmed me and i dont think im gonna do that this time

[versed cosmos]

tbh i think for most applications a single track gets enough throughput to make it work with some smart choices like processing into smaller volume before loading the train

[broken quarry]

mam research time brrrrr

[versed cosmos]

but for a global network definitely 2 lanes

[cunning glade]

cuz next goal is massive rubber and plastic plants

but then i need trains too make use of it

and hmf

[versed cosmos]

why do you need trains for plastic and rubber?

[cunning glade]

but thoose are easy

[cunning glade]

cuz ill be making prolly 2k or more of each

[versed cosmos]

where are you taking it man

[minor owl]

sometimes you just wanna carry a bunch of stuff by train?

does there need to be a reason

[sly sentinel]

Train is useless just use convwyor belts

[versed cosmos]

absolutely schizo take

[dense violet]

banable offence

[hasty stump]

conveyor belts are so fun when you need to upgrade your throughput

[minor owl]

consider that trains are cool so no other reason is needed

[ripe mantle]

I seem to have 80 spare rubber (/min) that feels like not enough to make a train station for

adhered reinforced plates recipe for 80 plates a minute?

[broken quarry]

is the factory cart actually TM'ed?

[versed cosmos]

train isnt justified by item number but by distance for me at least

like my computer factory just needs 60/min of cables and sheets and i use a train for that

[minor owl]

thats theoretically a drone situation but you do get those way later

also annoying to fuel them tbf

[dreamy shoal]

is the standard iron recipe still the best recipe for smelting?

[versed cosmos]

yeah why cant drones just have an internal battery man

[whole drum]

They can

[versed cosmos]

just let it charge up

[minor owl]

i mean you can just like

have a fuel drone

[ripe mantle]

Pretty sure I was putting like nuclear fuel into them in a previous save

[versed cosmos]

tbh i am sending that cable/sheets to an oil processing place

so i could just make some packaged fuel

[minor owl]

fuel packaging is so annoying though cause then you end up with jerry cans everywhere

[versed cosmos]

"best" is subjective

[versed cosmos]

using it as fuel in a vehicle deletes the package

[ripe mantle]

Hard to define best, it's pretty solid and you can get a lot out of higher level miners and overclocking, but, you can squeeze much more out of one node with the basic iron ingot recipe if you have a ton of limestone to spare

[dreamy shoal]

biggest number 😂 .. I'm thinking iron alloy ingots are the best though

[minor owl]

oh, huh.

[ripe mantle]

but limestone is not that common in my experience

[versed cosmos]

pure iron ingot is a nice one

just add water but also iron is everywhere

[minor owl]

i've never used them in vehicles because why on earth would you use a truck or tractor for a single moment after unlocking trains

[dreamy shoal]

yeah I mean might as well?

[ripe mantle]

Oh, yeah, water is much easier than limestone

[versed cosmos]

limestone is everywhere too

but you wanna make concrete with that stuff

[dreamy shoal]

i mean with a single refinery you can get over 300 iron ingots which is kinda crazy

[minor owl]

i love all the "just add water" recipes that inexplicably like double your resource production

[dreamy shoal]

yeah i'll probably just do that

[versed cosmos]

diluted fuel is the most deranged one lmao

[dreamy shoal]

Thanks!

[minor owl]

yeah im building a diluted fuel turbofuel factory right now and this shit is absurd

[ripe mantle]

Arbitrary self-imposed rules and a distrust in long belt lines

[versed cosmos]

add WATER to your fuel for more fuel

[minor owl]

factory is getting so big i ran into another factory of mine in an entire different biome

[dreamy shoal]

I used turbo heavy fuel, whats the difference?

[versed cosmos]

i think turbo heavy gives you less turbo than going all standard recipes but it cuts out making standard fuel

[dreamy shoal]

nah it doesnt

[versed cosmos]

not sure of the numbers there but assuming that's the logic

huh

[minor owl]

diluted fuel lets you get twice as much fuel per heavy oil residue. when combined with the heavy oil residue alt this gives you 1600 fuel from 600 crude. turn it all into turbofuel and forget about power for the next 50 hours.

[broken quarry]

what should I focus on in the MAM for now Im looking for 3 more crystals and a powerslug

[versed cosmos]

hard drives

[minor owl]

also you can make this even more stupid with somersloops, if you want that for some reason

[versed cosmos]

get your early game recipes in the library now

[versed cosmos]

oh boy i do love placing 1000 fuel generators

[minor owl]

my math says i need almost 200 so yeah thats gonna be fun

[dreamy shoal]

i'm at a lowly 32 fuel generators 😭 200 is crazy

[versed cosmos]

is that all overclocked?

[minor owl]

no, thats without any overclocking

[zealous urchin]

if iron pipe is incredible then iron wire should be even more so

[minor owl]

i could obviously cut it down with powershards but im stingy with them and i like giant factories

[ripe mantle]

I never had THAT many but blueprints can make it a lot more bearable to place

[versed cosmos]

yeah i see the potential ive just never needed iron wire

[minor owl]

iron wire is fucking goated

i literally never use copper wire

[ripe mantle]

ugly ratio though

[versed cosmos]

yeah thats prob the main thing that pushes me away from it

[zealous urchin]

Domain Expansion: Endless Sea of Fuel Generators

[versed cosmos]

i plan around having clean numbers

[minor owl]

yeah but you can just overproduce by like 1 item per minute and itll be fine

[versed cosmos]

i used to not like encased heavy frames until i overclocked it and suddenly the numbers were clean af

[ripe mantle]

Ugh I just remembered I need a factory for that...

[zealous urchin]

idk u can make iron wire intake 30 and spit out 54

seems ok

[versed cosmos]

tbh i could probably use steeled frame to make my heavy frames even easier

[minor owl]

its a little unclean but its alright if youre okay with a tiny bit of efficiency loss for the benefit of cutting out an entire resource from a lot of factories

[versed cosmos]

since im already using iron pipe

[versed cosmos]

can always make extra and send it through a manifold with overflow to a sink

[ripe mantle]

65 hours in this playthrough and still haven't unlocked heavy modular frames...

[minor owl]

I generally just get it as close as I can and round up to the nearest 1/min of ore

[versed cosmos]

yeah

[broken quarry]

scanning another harddrive but is there a way to find power slugs easily?

[minor owl]

get the slug scanning unlock in the mam

[versed cosmos]

look for the pretty colours

[minor owl]

but the object scanner is kind of not very good

[versed cosmos]

object scanner is great

[minor owl]

and there are like 25436538753 slugs, you really dont need it

[broken quarry]

can I have more than 1 mam researching?

[agile mountain]

Chat I'm not diagnosed am I still allowed to play 😭||/j||

[versed cosmos]

nope

[minor owl]

unfortunately not

[versed cosmos]

you may

[nimble tusk]

any train experts in here care to check out my picture in the sreenshots tab?

[minor owl]

exit is that way im afraid

[versed cosmos]

if you enjoy the game you will recieve your diagnosis

[broken quarry]

you're not diagnosed, you're 🌟 peer reviewed🌟

[agile mountain]

Nooooo 💔

[minor owl]

how does your train network actually work

im seeing one-way tracks, some weird crisscross...

[agile mountain]

Guess we'll find out on Christmas

[silk ocean]

Add spacers before the merge/splits

[minor owl]

if its one-way rails which one is which?

[agile mountain]

Undiagnosed but ficsit's pretty sure

[nimble tusk]

2 stations in the main area. basically has a full cirlce that allows the trains to wrap around with exits to different locations. i cant for the life of me get the signals to work to prevent crashes

[silk ocean]

Path signals on all entries to that entire block. Normal block signals on all exits. Add spacers before merges and move the signals back a bit

[nimble tusk]

so to make sure im understanding what your saying. using more space to lay some spacers between exits and such?

[minor owl]

in general, you want a path signal on the way into the intersection and a block signal at the end of it

[sly sentinel]

I never used trains, is it reliable? For example, conveyor belts always carry a fixed amount of product, but trains?

[minor owl]

there should be a block signal about one train-length before the path signal going into the intersection to give trains time to stop

[silk ocean]

Yea just a short piece of track, 1.5 or 2 foundations long and move the signal away from the merge/split point

[nimble tusk]

im just getting started with trains. ive always belted items lol

[versed cosmos]

Yeah they're reliable

[cunning glade]

idk yet

[minor owl]

they are reliable you just have to account for traffic and travel time and such

[cunning glade]

but ik ill need alot of plastic

and rubber so making it now

[minor owl]

generally just means leaving a bit of headroom in your throughput

[versed cosmos]

As long as you get a consistent travel time it'll get consistent throughput

[zealous urchin]

pretty sure everyone is welcome

[cunning glade]

trains if u do them right are super reliable

trains are peak

[versed cosmos]

For most applications a single track and one train with locomotives on each end will suffice

[cunning glade]

i just dislike doing tracks

[minor owl]

define "most applications"....

[versed cosmos]

Running products from one point to another lol

Like moving cable and sheets to where you're making plastic for computers

[minor owl]

double ended trains with two-way rails are fine for very simple isolated systems but they are definitely not good enough for "most applications"

[versed cosmos]

Dual tracks are very good and necessary if you want to actually build a NETWORK

[compact flicker]

I should tear down the whole refinery and power plant I spent all day yesterday building so I can get 100% efficiency instead of 85%

[versed cosmos]

Yes ADA will be proud

[broken quarry]

booo wet concrete and bolted frame

[versed cosmos]

Also you can probably just change it up a bit and hit that 100%

Wet concrete is FANTASTIC bro

[minor owl]

wet concrete is insane

[versed cosmos]

Keep it in the mam until you unlock refineries

[compact flicker]

But I also wanna wait till rocket fuel and blenders become available before doing so 😭

[versed cosmos]

So wait

[broken quarry]

why?

[cunning glade]

dual end train look bad so is bad

[versed cosmos]

It makes more concrete per limestone

[cunning glade]

2 lanes looks better

[compact flicker]

And it goes really well with bauxite refinment because limestone is everywhere

[minor owl]

1. way higher amounts of concrete per limestone
2. allows you to effectively just dump water into a sink at little cost which can be useful for aluminium setups later on

[versed cosmos]

Wet concrete also just has a nicer ratio

Instead of ordinary concrete not taking a multiple of 30

[compact flicker]

A 250% refinery taking 300/min limestone was so nice to discover

[versed cosmos]

until you unlock rocket fuel just change some of the clock speeds on your current set up to hit that 100%

then when you get rocket fuel and the alts you want you can tear it down and rebuild

[wicked nacelle]

trains are the best part of all open world games 😄

[dreamy shoal]

i just built my first trains and they are soooooo good

[wicked nacelle]

I love 'em. Playing astroneer for a break and they're awesome here too

[compact flicker]

This was my first large power plant, it was mainly to learn how things work ans ended much bigger than anticipated. When I get rocket fuel and the ability to make diluted fuel without paclaging it, I'll redo the whole thing

[broken quarry]

is my dismantler normally rainbow??

[compact flicker]

Its one of the customization options in the hub

[broken quarry]

I don't remeber turning it on

[compact flicker]

I assume you mean the rgb lighting right?

[broken quarry]

yea

[silk ocean]

Can't escape RGB these days XD

[gritty zealot]

kd

[broken quarry]

how does overclocking work?

[silk ocean]

Stick in shards, crank it up xD

[broken quarry]

oh thats what Im missing

[silk ocean]

Power Shards yea

[broken quarry]

I didnt realize it was a slider

[silk ocean]

You get them from slugs, convert to shards

Good tip for slug hunting - do it at night, they glow like beacons

[compact flicker]

Try to avoid handcrafting them as well, somersloop them as much as possible :3

[primal ice]

tier 9 is op

[versed cosmos]

there are so many slugs u really dont need to

[broken quarry]

I figured out look out towers are usually the height of rocks so I can climb and jump lol

[primal ice]

was easy af to complete and we got like 1k+ shards so fast

[minor owl]

i mean it literally is the last one in the game to be fair

[ocean frost]

Swlf reporting

[minor owl]

time to build 72 refineries for turbofuel ☹️

even with blueprints this is gonna take forever

[broken quarry]

what do I do with these purple orbs I researched one but the other?

[primal ice]

so is that it then? for the game, is there any new content planned or what is gonna happen here

[primal ice]

use them to build dimensional depots

[minor owl]

i mean idk, im not a dev

[wicked nacelle]

there's a patch 1.2 with some changes... but there's no like.. next phase planned or DLC

[minor owl]

as far as im aware the official "end" of the game is just sending the final project assembly thing

[wicked nacelle]

yes, that's the end of the tutorial

[primal ice]

i mean it seems like the game ended ended loll

[wicked nacelle]

now the real game starts

[primal ice]

x.x

[broken quarry]

how far in is that? ive only scanned the purple sphere

[wicked nacelle]

now play until your computer breaks... upgrade your computer and then repeat

[primal ice]

4th level down i suppose

[broken quarry]

I used a powershard then a splitter and now Im going to slow

[zealous urchin]

real

so now you have drained all motivation for progress? lets see how crushing no set purpose is when ur only enemy is urself

[primal ice]

i already lost

[broken quarry]

omg there was a stupid mk1 belt inside the splitter

[minor owl]

classic

[silk ocean]

Common thing xD

[compact flicker]

I need more concrete uploaders

[minor owl]

me always

[silk ocean]

Do you have the full research done? Max size depot

[compact flicker]

Both are max ye

One of my bps needs 504

[minor owl]

or you could just have like 12 dedicated concrete uploaders

[silk ocean]

I think you can always add a 2nd depot

[compact flicker]

I have 2 rn

[minor owl]

one of mine needs 750 😭

[compact flicker]

Mine is a support pillar :3

[minor owl]

mine is a support pillar with a bridge so yeah about the same thing lol

[compact flicker]

Its specifically for a bridge lmao

I am so greatful foe blueprints and the ability to delete them as a whole

[silk ocean]

I kinda wish the nights lasted longer, the lighting looks pretty

[compact flicker]

Its cool when looking for slugs

[silk ocean]

Yea

[zealous urchin]

started decorating blueprint with extreme details, then been hit with a yt short mentioning OBJECT LIMIT and ive been downed on my floor with ringing bells in my head

[silk ocean]

lol

Decorative dreams shattered xD

[zealous urchin]

well maybe 30 catwalks, 20 beams, tens of cables and whatnot around 4 refineries is a bit excessive

[compact flicker]

Isn't it several million?

[zealous urchin]

maybe it is but i dont want to f around and find out

[silk ocean]

2 mil ish I believe

[minor owl]

foundations and beams and such dont count i think

[zealous urchin]

even if

new fear unlocked

[compact flicker]

Its 2.16 million UObjects

[silk ocean]

It's a lot but people do reach it

[compact flicker]

For scale, covering the whole map in a flat plane of foundations would take 700,000~ foundations, so its not likely you will hit the limit.

[zealous urchin]

like putting 3 industrial containers for an item they will never need

[silk ocean]

Amazes me that some people seem to need to increase the limit... I doubt I am anywhere close xD

[zealous urchin]

it will fill itself eventualy but will never be used

[minor owl]

ok but what if one day i need several thousand cable

[silk ocean]

Wait, the contents of a container surely don't count towards the UObject count?

[zealous urchin]

okay bro that day will happen once but after ure done with it it will never come back again so

[zealous urchin]

surely bro

[silk ocean]

Isn't it just spawned objects, so if they come out on a belt for example

Surely in a container it's just numbers

[zealous urchin]

hope so

[silk ocean]

🤞 or my world is shattered into a million UObjects xD

[minor owl]

i would be incredibly surprised if container objects counted

there is no shot they do

[silk ocean]

Me too xD

[minor owl]

like thats literally just an array of simple datastructs

[silk ocean]

Yea they can't possibly be objects in a container..... SURELY™

[compact flicker]

The do not

They count as part of the container, so an empty container has the same effect as a full one

[silk ocean]

Phew xD

Storing a billion nuclear waste is back on the menu XD

[compact flicker]

Lol

[wicked nacelle]

you can trivially set your uobject limit to 10M anyhow. I have a very large save and it's 1.7M -- the problem is opening the details on a building can spike it 70-100k uobjects for a minute --

opening the map on that save spikes it 100k

so if I spam M I can crash it at 10M

[silk ocean]

Is there a way to see the current count?

[wicked nacelle]

on PC there's a mod "uobject count" or something

[silk ocean]

Ah okay, mod required, gotcha

[wicked nacelle]

UObject Counter by Rex

[silk ocean]

Ta

Surprised you can't see it in the console tbh

[wicked nacelle]

you're not supposed to have to care... but yeah. You do

[silk ocean]

Guess so xD

[broken quarry]

have 20/m Rplates now and Im scared to start rotors

[wicked nacelle]

that's a lot for not having done rotors yet

[minor owl]

i dont think ive ever made that many rplates

[wicked nacelle]

I have but never that early. that's dedication

[minor owl]

other than for stuff like high level cubes that use them

[broken quarry]

wdym

[wicked nacelle]

with the belts/miners you have that's a LOT

it's awesome but I don't have the patience for it 🙂

[broken quarry]

am I playing the game wrong lol I just built two factories to make Rplates and now Im working on a factory to make rotors

[minor owl]

you are not playing the game wrong lol

[wicked nacelle]

no you're playing the game awesomer than I ever have 🙂

[minor owl]

i am making a gigantic power plant that i really dont need right now because i have 10x my power usage in production already

i just want to do it because its fun

[broken quarry]

noooo I forgot about my power

[wicked nacelle]

that's one reason I've never spent that much time pre-coal power

[broken quarry]

production is 300 and max consumption is 298.5

Yea pre-coal I had like 12 bio mass generators

[minor owl]

sounds perfectly fine to me 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

don't you need rotors to get coal gens?

oh you just mean automating it

[broken quarry]

yea Ive never automated a rotor lol

[wicked nacelle]

OOH, that's "more acceptable" to my sensibilities at least

[broken quarry]

These Rplates are the first time I’ve automated them and I’m halfway into tier 3

[minor owl]

i mean unless youre making a really really big coal plant you can kinda just handcraft them

you can really get away without automating them for a while

[broken quarry]

I remember playing early on and you could get way further but they patched that

[ivory condor]

early access, pre update 3 you could get really far hand crafting, because plastic/rubber could be handcrafted to, that was before pipes were introduced

[gray hill]

Can someone help me in #screenshots Idk how to hide that piece of rock

[silk ocean]

Cover it in foundations like you are doing

[gray hill]

I've tried but it just looks like a massive blob😭

or do i just accept i cant change it and just make the base level higher

[silk ocean]

Place a lizard doggo statue on it

or go higher yea XD