satisfactory

[dense violet]

it's connects power throug ha wall to both sockets

[grizzled lotus]

not a pump, a conveyor lift

[fallen pivot]

I think it is more about balancing issues rather than optimization vs fun.

[true mulch]

There's no difference between them and power poles, but you can't interact with them to open the power graph. Double outlets' sides are automatically connected to each other

[dense violet]

you need lifts to connect it to things, yes

[reef basin]

oh that's for sure part of it. Also relevant for your maybe-meme 🙂

[ornate saffron]

Note wall outlets can clip to the underside and sides of foundations, metal beams and other materials. This allows for so nice ways to hide wires

[grizzled lotus]

I'm actually using them mostly for foundations, no walls yet

[gloomy dagger]

Can i claim the calendar stuff even if i miss a day or as long as i claim them before the event ends?

[leaden turret]

yes

[gloomy dagger]

Ok cool

I dont feel like claiming all that at 4am xD

[lunar python]

satisfactory is totally missing a snow biome

just sayin

[leaden turret]

there's one in the game right now

-# nobody tell them

[lunar python]

THE FALLING SNOW DOESNT COUNT OTHERWISE YOU BETTER TELL ME!!!

[leaden turret]

that's not it

[lunar python]

that's it, ill go fly around the whole map now because of you

[leaden turret]

you probably won't find it that way

[unique siren]

how tf do i make auto connect blueprints work?

[lunar python]

press r until you get to the option that says auto connect

[unique siren]

do pipes not auto connect?

[mental raft]

they do

[unique siren]

then it seems i am doing something wrong

nvm i was just dumb

apparently splitters work fine but pipeline junctions dont

[urban token]

where are steam points items for satisfactory?

I wanna show myself to other players

I wanna show them my pain and suffering

and math skills

[grizzled lotus]

I built catwalk stairs and I'm trying to build a foundation at the top but it won't snap

is this a bug? feels like it should snap to the top of the stairs

[hybrid nymph]

oh my god...somersloops are so busted!!

I just found a bunch of power slugs and I just got 500 power shards...

[dense violet]

duping mechanics usually are, yes

[hybrid nymph]

i have no idea why coffe stain allows you to dupe power slugs, it's so broken

[dense violet]

even w/o duping slugs, there's more than 2000 sharsd available on the map

and it's not like Over clocking is magic

[urban token]

We will get someday satisfactory steam point items, like backgrounds, profile icons and like that?

[dense violet]

who knows

[hybrid nymph]

true that

I think I have enough lol

[urban token]

I need animate spaggetti factory background

[hybrid nymph]

I think 500 power shards is more than enough

[urban token]

bro, it is never enought

[dense violet]

the only mechanical benefits slugs give you is increasing miner/extractor outputs - which is nice, but even without duping them you'll have like 10x as many shards as you need

[hybrid nymph]

with how many you can make with somersloops there is no real reason to make artificial power shards

I mean power shards dratically increase power consumption, but they do save space

[fallen pivot]

Ionized fuel seems neat.

[hybrid nymph]

nah I just use turbofuel

turbofuel is good enuff

[fallen pivot]

But I want to.

[hybrid nymph]

I mean go for it, but turbofuel is the point of diminishing returns

[fallen pivot]

I will just make 50000MW from turbo first.

[hybrid nymph]

good call

make sure you got enuff compacted coal

[fallen pivot]

I need 1200 of them/

[hybrid nymph]

actually you only need 80 fuel generators

if they're fully overclocked

[fallen pivot]

I want to fill the sea with oil rigs so I will go with 200.

Seeing an array of them seems neat.

[deft saffron]

I have done literally everything there is to do and I still have the desire to play the game

[fallen pivot]

I have played for 900 hours and never got to actually make Phase 4 things, or nuclear things. I rushed Phase 3 only for Mk 5 belts and Mk3 miners.

[primal obsidian]

nuclear is great

until it stops working

then it’s annoying

[fallen pivot]

Everything is annoying when it stops working.

[hybrid nymph]

but reporcessing the nuclear waste is a pain

[fallen pivot]

There are times back when my power is still unstable or too few or just not connected to the grid that I have to jump start it. Those are dark times.

[hybrid nymph]

I bet

[nocturne warren]

where do i unlock hard drive scanner

[fallen pivot]

Quartz research.

Or was it Caterium.

[hybrid nymph]

what he said

it is quartz

[nocturne warren]

ty

[worn ember]

Hello

[hybrid nymph]

what's channel 37?

[worn ember]

I made a whole set of train tracks for modular use

All blueprints

Is there a way to share them, so others can benefit from the hours of fiddling?

[worn ember]

The last caretaker

It’s a game

[lunar python]

I believe you can upload blueprints in Satisfactory Calculator site

[hybrid nymph]

I been up all night playing this damn game

but god was it worth it!

Just got done with an 8-hour satisfactory playthrough

Now it's time to go to bed

At 7:00 a.m. in the morning...

[lunar python]

honestly i just keep playing after an all nighter

[hybrid nymph]

Here's what I don't understand? How is satisfactory not the #1 game on steam?

[fallen pivot]

Back on holidays I'd play a 12 hour session from dawn to dusk. Totally relatable.

[lunar python]

probably cause they never added a proper snow biome

[hybrid nymph]

Probably

Satisfactory is my third favorite game of all time

Minecraft is #1

Diablo 3 is #2

And satisfactory is #3

At least if we're going by playtime

I have about 1100 hours in Minecraft

I have about 900 hours in Diablo 3

[primal obsidian]

no it’s not

[hybrid nymph]

And I have about 450 hours in satisfactory

[hard ivy]

It's more of a pain than rocket fuel 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid nymph]

I guess nuclear reactors produce nuclear waste which is not easy to get rid of by the way, so that they're not overpowered

So question

Once I get to tier 8 with nuclear power, What should I do with the plutonium fuel rods once I reprocess the waste?

Should I awesome sink them?

[lunar python]

yeah sure

[hard ivy]

I ain't gonna tell you what you should but you can:

1. Sink them to get rid of the waste completely
2. Use them as drone/vehicle fuel, which doesn't produce plutonium waste (not mutually exclusive with 1)
3. Burn them for more power.

If you do 3., you have 2 options:

1. Store the waste. Which is actually not that bad, as plutonium doesn't make much waste
2. Make Ficsonium which gets rid of the waste. The issue is that it's expensive and it basically does nothing except get rid of said waste. It's basically net 0 on power (depends on recipes and clock speeds)

[primal obsidian]

drone fuel or truck fuel and sink excess

or ficsonium at tier 9

[frigid rain]

Sinking the Plutonium Fuel Rods is what most people do with their Nuclear Waste. But overall Nuclear Power is a waste of time because of the infrastructure footprint needed and the amount of time put into it. The only reason to ever do Nuclear Power is just because you want to. Rocket Fuel is the best power output for time and infrastructure invested. And in general you can create Rocket Fuel at the Blue Crater and have all the power you could ever need for a truly massive world around about 1.7TW of power.

[primal obsidian]

yeah nuclear is only useful for the cool factor and you never need to upgrade from fuel gens

my whole nuclear power plant shutdown and my grid didn’t crash so it’s not really doing that much anyway

[frigid rain]

Yeah I have about 3.7k hours into Satisfactory and I have done Nuclear once on my 2nd playthrough and I will never do Nuclear again until Coffee Stain adjusts the power output ratios to make it more worth it to invest in the Nuclear footprint needed. They would seriously need to double the power output of Nuclear to make it worth the footprint needed IMO.

[primal obsidian]

I still do it though cause it’s cool

[reef basin]

nucelar is already super worth it

one plant is 10 fuel gens

[hard ivy]

RF has one issue at TW scales: it uses a lot of just a couple resources, while nuclear uses a smaller amount of a lot of different resources. Doing nuclear might allow you to build more things that require oil or nitrogen before running out

[nocturne cairn]

They should really implement some form of increased power output with different fuels, it really sucks that using ionized fuel or ficsonium rods produces the exact same amount of energy as regular fuel and uranium rods

[mortal ginkgo]

because they are not meant as power but sinks. Ionized fuel lets you sink power shards, fisconium rod allows you to have no waste etc.

[frigid rain]

Fair but the truly massive scale you would have to build certain items at like Fused Modular Frames would be absolutely insane to use the remainder Nitrogen. Guess it just depends on what your specific goals are. I build 20/m of all Tier 9 parts (NucP, BioS, BWD, and AiExS) and have never needed all of the rest of the Nitrogen or Oil.

[nocturne cairn]

Sure, you can go one step lower with rocket and plutonium fuel

[west hazel]

thats what i noticed right away, the nitrogen and advance aluminum and whatnot, nuclear isnt that hard to setup, i have 6 reactors going atm for a lot more power then regular fuel factories and the waste isnt that bad just conveyor it away until you can unlock the shit to deal with it, im on my first major run through though so stil sorting things out

[hard ivy]

Having to build more gens is fine. But they really need higher energy content

[primal obsidian]

48 reactors and I don’t think I’ll ever need more power but I didn’t need more power in the first place so it’s kinda just there and doing nothing

[mortal ginkgo]

most people that wants to use nuclear goes ultra massive yolo scale, and then lose control (they mostly dont have ways to shut down reactors either)

What you do is correct way of handling it. Just start smol and expand.

[hybrid nymph]

I see, after doing a little bit of research it appears that plutonium fuel rods produce 10 times less waste than uranium fuel rods do, And they last twice as long

[hard ivy]

Yeah, which is why storing plutonium waste is perfectly viable while storing uranium waste really isn't

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, you can have a large storage area that would take 10k game hours to fill them up with just its waste. Its incredibly easy to store if one doesnt want to bother with fisco boi.

[primal obsidian]

using no alts does the plutonium fuel rod just half the amount of reactors you can power like 48 reactors on uranium to 24 on plutonium and then 12 on ficsonium?

[hard ivy]

6 reactors is 42 times fewer than you could have before tier 9. Imagine having 42 times more waste

[west hazel]

i am producing so many parts pm atm and i have so much exttra power, lol

[hard ivy]

Yeah, the all defaults ratio is 4:1:5 in rods, so I suppose it's 4:2:1 in reactors

[mortal ginkgo]

@tacit rose That empty section happens if you use 0.5m nudge

[primal obsidian]

so in total if I go to ficsonium I will have 90 more GW of power and I do have a lot of extra power that im not using so might aswell use it to make more power

[sharp basin]

Couldn’t play for so many days, haven’t even tried Ficsmas!

I’m in the middle of changing roommate so my flat is just chaos

Lost internet for weeks

Just got it back

Still no bedroom to sleep in

And all I want is drink beer and play Satis

[primal obsidian]

is 100GW enough for me to make ficsonium fuel rods

I have 95-100 GW of excess power

[reef basin]

well depends how much you want to make obviously 😄

[primal obsidian]

enough to get rid of 24 plutonium waste

[white dawn]

Plenty of time still! Runs until Jan 18. :) (And there's increasingly more to do as the month goes on, too)

[reef basin]

use some online planners to check 🙂

[primal obsidian]

so like 1.2/min

[hard ivy]

You're off by a factor of 10 I'm afraid 🤣

It's 2 Pu waste for 1 Fs rod

[primal obsidian]

uhh like 12/min I guess

sacrifice like 4.8 RCU/min production to save 20 hours

[brazen coral]

Slowly making my way up in nuclear power, just unlocked the radiation suit

Just need to produce some iodine infused filters

Well actually right now the blender is next on my list I need so I can make easier turbo fuel

[primal obsidian]

and like 2.4 fused mod frames

[solemn crystal]

guys what if i tossed my ficsonium rods into the void

will it make the world a nuclear reactor

[hard ivy]

Considering you won't get any power from that, no

[solemn crystal]

aww man, can i atleast have worldwide radiation if i tossed enough

[west hazel]

theres a video of a guy attaching radioactive waste to lizard doggos and other things and then launching them into the void you should check it out, one of the things i seen about this game wellk before i had the ability to play it, lol

[open swallow]

Animal cruelty

[warm thorn]

Guys where do I go to report a bug?

[fiery pewter]

"Hey there it's Josh, welcome to Let's Game It Out"

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[fiery pewter]

why does greeny get pinged lol

[reef basin]

I... didn't?

[fiery pewter]

why does it say @greeny here then?

[reef basin]

it didn't ping

[fiery pewter]

hm

weird

[reef basin]

try writing !qa yourself

it doesn't ping

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @fiery pewter

[fiery pewter]

ah

[west hazel]

its just the person that sent the command

[fiery pewter]

well that clears stuff up

[warm thorn]

nvm the bug I found has already been reported lol

[sacred trail]

Is the event cosmetics only? If I don't care about decorations, should I just skip it?

[reef basin]

mostly yeah

there's some QOL things you can get out of it, but imo not worth the effort if you just want to play the game

[warm thorn]

Unless you're participating in the FISCMAS competition, the event is mostly cosmetic

[west hazel]

once you setup the ficsmas gift tree they make themselves, you just have to automate production,

[solemn crystal]

My goat LetsGameItOut

Saw that video like years ago when it came out

-# i love how every factory community collectively uses LetsGameItOut as the best of everyone

[reef basin]

I do not agree with this

[sacred trail]

Of what? If it's just cosmetic stuff, I don't want to bother. If there's inventory expansion, new recipes for production of "useful things" or maybe coupons for the shop, then I want it.

[warm thorn]

Because he's literally everyone in the community combined at least in my eyes

[west hazel]

ez sink coupons and some other stuff

[sacred trail]

Oh, that's interesting.

I will check it then.

[west hazel]

i tagged you in a pic in the ss channel, it took me all of 10 mins to set that up this morning nwo im making every item available atm and its doing it all on its own, lol

[sacred trail]

Are there new missions after phase 5? You guys just make your factory prettier and more optimized after that?

[reef basin]

P5 is basically end of the game's content and story, but you can still just build more and continue playing

[proper hound]

You can always try the more advanced version called "Cohrane Cannon".
Step 1 - find volunteer pioneer.
Step 2 - load volunteer with waste barrels
Step 3 - launch volunteer with overly powerful hypertube cannon. You need to achieve superluminal speeds so they enter hyperspace before dying in the world edge barier.
If performed correctly, you just annihilated thousands of waste barrels.
Find another volunteer, repeat.

Note: The method is no longer recommended. Volcans asked us to stop polluting warp space.

[solemn crystal]

Candy cane xeno basher

Makes the whole thing worth it

Atleast the single branch you need to get at the start is worth it

[white dawn]

There's nothing in the event which gives you any "advantage" in the rest of the game, btw. It's essentially all decoration

[solemn crystal]

If you lack any pioneers, theres always the doggos

[white dawn]

Back in Early Access, snowballs stacked higher than nobelisks, so those were rather useful to stockpile, but nowadays there's no functional difference there

[west hazel]

what do the snowballs do anyways?

[solemn crystal]

Reskinned nobelisk

[white dawn]

||just a nobelisk alternative||

[west hazel]

gotcha

[white dawn]

FICSMAS items are terrible for the sink, btw, unless I'm really misremembering it. I think all items just give you 1 point (actually the instant I wrote that out I suddenly doubted myself. Was that changed for 1.0? To the bat-wiki!)

Oh, heh, okay, yeah, was changed in 1.0; not everything's 1 point anymore

[runic cobalt]

Hey would there be a way to see different lines on the power graphs or a separate screen to be able to show how much power you are getting from the different fuels your using to make power, like I'm using the free thermal, rocket fuel and ion fuel and it would be nice to see a graph showing how much is coming from where

[white dawn]

Still, I wouldn't call it a coupon-generating powerhouse, though I suppose it's nice that the main resource ingredient is free

[marble gulch]

Sink a coupon and see what happens

[white dawn]

Nothing in-game, at least in vanilla (though maybe a mod adds something like that). You can load your save into SCIM though (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map), and I think one of the dialogs in there will break it down for you

[runic cobalt]

@white dawn thanks

[formal minnow]

chat i did it again
i forgot about a world and now i dont remember anything on it, so i could:

1. start over (third time btw)
2. figure out what the hell i was doing
3. go back, destroy everything and rebuild using my existing resources (might be fun for streamlining production lines idk)

[frail sleet]

start over and keep notes/diary

[formal minnow]

how the hell do people get such clean factories btw i keep getting into the problem of "this is already here and i gotta build around it"

i had like 3km of highway running tractors because of this

[hard ivy]

I don't understand how y'all manage to forget what's in your world
like have you not been playing for over a year or something?

[formal minnow]

yes

i play satisfactory like the 2 week minecraft phase except instead of 2 weeks its 2 months and i got to crude oil and automating HMFs last time

[tawdry forge]

Are there any mods that give us different planets?

[feral geyser]

No

[solemn crystal]

Restart, but use the public and private notes as different sections, and just mentally assign them to categories, like main and sub, so you can always remember what you were doing

[azure aspen]

Are the ficmas items worth sinking?

[solemn crystal]

#satisfactory message

[formal minnow]

no i had notes on what i had to do it's just
i have no idea what i have so linking any old factories to new shit isnt gonna happen

[solemn crystal]

Ah, i dont know then

Maybe invest in architectural themes so everything has the same structure? Im not sure what you need

oh you literally forgot what you had automated

how does that happen-

in that case make categories for parts, i for example have made different floors for each part, depending on what ore they stem from

so you can always retrace

i think there was something called a concave control panel? it helps with automation, its a blueprint

[glad quest]

do u guys ever use like a morbillion mods then play vanilla and then be like huhh

[glad quest]

yeah

as it takes no nodes

and can be inf replicated

[reef basin]

4. continue building new stuff and keep old stuff

[formal minnow]

more like idk in/out rates

[solemn crystal]

Concave control panel
Excel spreadsheets

[formal minnow]

yippeee spreadsheets

[unkempt blade]

I'm a vanilla purist. The great and benevolent creators knew what they were doing and who am I to question their glorious vision?

it's super quiet in here. Maybe we should talk about what a great recipe cast screws is again?

[white dawn]

Biocoal is the new Cast Screws

[shy mulch]

Is it just me that unironically uses steel screws?

[white dawn]

Heh, I think Steel Screws is a very popular recipe. :)

[unkempt blade]

steel screws are pretty cool too but only if they were made using biocoal

[west hazel]

i do find it annoying that petroleum coke is supposed to be a replacement for charcoal but it doesnt work for most things, lol

[shy mulch]

I did consider biocoal for my "biomass power only" playthrough, but decided to stick with packaged LBF

[shy mulch]

on my biomass only playthrough I'm trying to keep transportation to a minimum, so I use petroleum coke and rubber to make circuit boards, since my oil is nowhere near any quickwire or copper

[unkempt blade]

at least in terms of resources used I think coke actually is a great coal alternative. The majority of my coal use after phase 2 is steel and I think the coke steel is actually pretty decent if you're near oil but not coal for your steel factory

[shy mulch]

I think just by adding iron I can get it all the way to computers

[unkempt blade]

I really like the electrode circuitboards recipe too

there are a few recipe setups where that lets me ignore copper entirely which can be nice

[shy mulch]

yeah it's handy!

[past hedge]

yea no its not at all but its cheap

[unkempt blade]

might be nice early in a save to rush your factory carts unlock though 😄

[past hedge]

cant beat the new space elevator parts i forgot the name of at this point that give like 4x more than anything else

[fallen anvil]

Someone help me get through early game 🙁

[summer stump]

I need to automate high speed connectors, circuit boards, and computers. Should I combine any of the three?

[fallen anvil]

😠 '

[past hedge]

yes cause i always use the iron ones or the default recepie like a degenerate

steel is coal and coal is extinct

[compact flicker]

Circuit boards and computors can be automated with just a caterium and oil node with the right alternates, i usually split my circuits between computers and HSC

[solemn crystal]

use factory carts

-# i dont know how that solves anything but factory carts

[past hedge]

no no... golden factory carts!

[west hazel]

? in what way?

[solemn crystal]

by using factory carts

duhhh!!!\

[west hazel]

for what?

[fallen anvil]

I just think its hard, I been playing with a friend and starting off from beginning is just hard and long and slow

[past hedge]

fun

[solemn crystal]

the pure whimsy, joy, and hell of 500 factory carts transporting everything

[west hazel]

oh, i havent even unlocked it yet, i was more into the coffee cup always being in my hand when im working, lol

oh so factory carst can be used as seperate ai entiteis

[solemn crystal]

its basically a tractor

[west hazel]

i thought they had to be driven

[solemn crystal]

but like it doesnt have fuel requirements, and has only 1 slot

[west hazel]

gotcha

massive race track for factory carts, lol

[west hazel]

you definetly need to streamline things quickly, focus on making "mini factories" to make individual parts

[fallen anvil]

I made a screw factory 🙂

[west hazel]

like iron node, to smelters, to constructors, making plates and rods and screws, then limestone to concrete

yeah thats exactly what i mean

just keep making factories, then make them bigger to support bigger parts being made faster

takes alot more math then you originally realize

[fallen anvil]

Power is so annoying

[west hazel]

once you get to the fuel generators it gets easier

[fallen anvil]

I cant get there 🙁

[west hazel]

bio is annoying, coal is ok, fuel is wicked

i just unlocked nuclear last night

it takes time buddy

[gentle lion]

12 of 40 fuel gens down.

Then start work on tier 6 stuff , make factories for parts I've been ignoring lol

[fallen anvil]

Got any tips now when I own bio only?

[solemn crystal]

One of many, my friend..

[fallen anvil]

Yeah

[west hazel]

make a small biomass factory, crates for leaves and wood and stuff, running to constructors making biomass, then that running to a constructor making solid biofuel then have that running to a line of bio generators, so that way all you have to do is remember to harvest leaves and wood and shit to keep refilling your setup and it will do it on its own @fallen anvil

thats the easiest way i had it running

[fallen anvil]

I see

I did that in my friends world, but the generators furthest away didn't work

[solemn crystal]

Who said it had to be small 😜

[west hazel]

run the splitter starting from the middle of the line going out to the sides

[solemn crystal]

just make a 5GW biomass plant

[west hazel]

so your solid bio mass goes down the line of say 13 generators then have it insert near generator 7 and split both directions

they fill more reliably,

[fallen anvil]

ok

[abstract heron]

I have over 9’million power

[solemn crystal]

In rise of kingdoms

[abstract heron]

No in satisfactory in my world

[solemn crystal]

Yea but “i have 5 million power in rise of kingdoms”

As in that meme ad

[west hazel]

or you can use "stutter conveyors" and add in sopme kickers so the line can push solid biomass down further first, like split the line coming off the bio mass constructor into 2, then have it enter in 2 seperate places on the line of generrtors

thats another way to spread out where the bio mass enters

[primal obsidian]

do NOT make a factory for screws they are used for essentially no buildings so you don’t need to store them and it’s better to just make screws when you need them

[solemn crystal]

Never seen worse advice in my life

[west hazel]

the splitters always work in ordr of 1st-last so where the resource enters is where it will always fill from first resukting in the last ones not having enough resource to be able to run, you just need to spread out where the resource enters so it has a chance to get at the further generators earlier if that makes sense @fallen anvil

[solemn crystal]

You’re getting a whole gif bro 🥀

[compact flicker]

40 hrs into my current save and dont have a single screw being produced anywhere

The only time I ever need them is for an awesome shop, but I already have one placed down so.. I don't need screws :3

[supple rain]

Wait were Tiers 1 and 2 always marked as phase 0? I thought that was phase 1 of Project Assembly

[solemn crystal]

HOW?!?!?

ROTORS? REINFORCED IRON PLATES?

[compact flicker]

Stiched iron plates, steel rotors

Iron wire, iron pipe

My motors are made entirely out of iron

[solemn crystal]

Screws is life, you cant convince me otherwise

What about modular frames??

[compact flicker]

Stiched iron plate

[solemn crystal]

Thats not..

[compact flicker]

Thats the only componet that needed screws

[solemn crystal]

you still need screws for modular frames

[compact flicker]

Reinforced plate and iron bars?

[solemn crystal]

Youre gonna need alot more

Its fine youre still early

[compact flicker]

I intend on using the heavy frame alternate that removes screws from it

[solemn crystal]

…

ok…

[compact flicker]

No screws in my factory :3 now or ever

[solemn crystal]

That has to be the 8th deadly sin

[compact flicker]

Dw I'm a collector

[solemn crystal]

having no screws in a factory is just skipping half of satisfactory

The horror

[compact flicker]

:3c

I like my current belts being able to handle my part needs, and not needing 58272028 screws a minute

[solemn crystal]

You missed a few scientific numbers

I have a line in the middle down my factory that is literally called the screw highway

[summer stump]

how can I find specific alt recipes the fastest?

[solemn crystal]

You gotta have the actual item you want in your codex, then just gamble

[summer stump]

should I rescan them?

[eager palm]

Gate your unlocks so that recipies aren't on the table for the roll.

[compact flicker]

Don't claim recipes from hard drives if you don't like any of them, they wont appear in any future drives. Other than that, just luck

[hard ivy]

it's generally best to not make screws at all

[solemn crystal]

Yah if u want specific recipe

[eager palm]

For example, get cast screws IMMEDIATELY after you unlock the MAM, before unlocking steel, etc

[solemn crystal]

Oh my god

The horrors
Oh the agony

[summer stump]

Im just not sure whether its better to rescan hard drives or keep them so I can find the alt by process of elimiantion

[hard ivy]

don't take any recipe you don't want and keep scanning drives

or save scum rescans

[solemn crystal]

i use every alt recipe that uses screws

I have a seperate factory in a different biome that is just screws

[eager palm]

I'm a save scum / save edit believer for recipies, unless you really enjoy the gambling high.

[summer stump]

Im also not sure which specific alt recipes are best for a computer/circuit board factory

[hard ivy]

I use caterium for both

[hard ivy]

have fun wasting resources then

[solemn crystal]

Thats my thing

[eager palm]

It's mostly preference, but there are tangible pros/cons to each alt. I feel a lot of players lean into resource efficiency recipies, as if they plan to use every node on the map in some crazy endgame build. Some players optimize for space, or simplicity, which is another option. It's all relative.

[open swallow]

Bussing screws in Satisfactory is like bussing copper wire in Factorio. It uses more belt space than its precursor material, so it's better to make it in-place and directly connect the machines

[solemn crystal]

I optimize to waste

I work for BREAKIT

[eager palm]

My man!

[summer stump]

ok wreck-it ralph

[south sinew]

I don't entirely agree

[hard ivy]

the issue with screws is that with the sole exception of copper rotor, all the other recipes that use screws are just straight up bad. more expensive, more power, more space, more machines, more inconvenient logisctics. they're just shit

[south sinew]

primarily, you have way less good blueprint options, I find direct insertion kinda painful when you're setting up like 10 machines or something

[solemn crystal]

Thats what i like to hear

They said exploit, never said i had to do it efficiently

[south sinew]

resource efficiency means not having to go get nodes from the other side of the map so IMO worth

there's a difference between running out of nodes and running out of convenient nodes

[eager palm]

I'd call that logistic efficiency rather than resource efficiency. Infrastructure is a one-time cost.

[summer stump]

LETS GO I GOT IT

[south sinew]

setting up more resource efficient recipes like pure iron ingot is also a one-time cost

[hard ivy]

resource efficiency usually goes hand with all other efficiencies. especially with recipes later in the chain

[eager palm]

There's also build-time efficiency to consider, which includes planning. It's definitely possible to spend so long planning and optimizing theory that no building ever gets done.

[west hazel]

cast screws? iv completed pages of the mam and havent even found that recipe yet

[south sinew]

it's a hard drive recipe not a MAM recipe

[hard ivy]

it takes a few minues with a good calculator

[south sinew]

sure, but "use pure iron ingot", "use solid steel ingot" etc are pretty simple plans that work very well

[hard ivy]

and wast a drive on a recipe I'm not gonna use a few hours after getting it? no thanks

[west hazel]

mods?

or recipes?

[south sinew]

those are hard drive recipes

[eager palm]

Thinking more along the lines of "but there's an oil node here and I could use an alt that uses a petroleum product instead of x because oil is closer and I'm not using that node for anything"

[west hazel]

i know what you mean, like using the rubber coated reinforced plating or something because its right there

[south sinew]

I wouldn't disagree with that inherently but it's more likely you will want to use oil for oil-only things like more rubber/plastic or fuel power, so oil is probably a bad example

[west hazel]

i make an alternate iron recipe atm because its the best one i have

[eager palm]

There's always more nodes of oil

[west hazel]

4 iron - 1 copper = like 15 iron or something crazy it creates an insane amount of iron

[south sinew]

yeah but not necessarily in any place I actually want to be

[eager palm]

Back to the logistics optimization!

[south sinew]

shrug, sure, you're dealing with one-time costs no matter how you slice it and logistics is a one-time cost just as surely as spending time thinking about how to use your conveniently accessible nodes more efficiently is a one-time cost

[west hazel]

the entire game no matter hwo you shake it is about optimization

from start to finish

[south sinew]

but I prefer to use my nodes more efficiently because firstly it's way more interesting than dragging belts a mile, and secondly it helps you use the further-away nodes more efficiently as well should you need them later

[west hazel]

sure you can make it pretty, but it needs to do something, lol

[unkempt blade]

incorrect, it's about maximizing fun through using vehicle just for the joy of it

[west hazel]

it is a sandbox

[eager palm]

I'm just happy there's no "correct" way to play and we all embrace that.

[unkempt blade]

which is why we shouldn't get all sweaty about optimizing stuff and just have fun 😄

[west hazel]

you can do what you want, lol, i just mean in general if you plan on beating the story of phases and stuff i think we can all agree, it takes time, patience and abit of optimization, lol

[hard ivy]

I wish there was so I could tell people that they're doing everything wrong

[unkempt blade]

when has that ever stopped anyone here from telling people their way is wrong?

[solemn crystal]

embrace inefficient screws

i think one of the major factors in the open-ended ways of playing was LetsGameItOut

wait wait no i dont think, i KNOW

[unkempt blade]

youknowsahedron

[solemn crystal]

one sec

ok im now Iknowsahedron

[summer stump]

is there any way to get more than one kind of item into ONE dimensional uploader without the overflow breaking it

[compact flicker]

Build more

Now responding to the edit, no.

[fallen anvil]

how much would it cost to get 10 armored plates per min?

[compact flicker]

12 plates, 24 screws

[hard ivy]

actually, correction, there is. manually

[gentle lion]

I keep forgetting about uploading stuff now that I have Manual upload

I try to check every few minutes and refill the queue

18 fuel gena7of 40 done. Gonna finish those and make sure I have a factory area for each basic item then work.up from there cause Im aboht to need a lot of stuff

Almost have the teir 6 part 1 unlocked ..that manufacturer looks intense.

[fallen anvil]

120?

[hard ivy]

use a calculator

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production for example

[compact flicker]

Oh mb, misread the text here :p

60 plates, 120 screws

[fallen anvil]

ok

[primal obsidian]

im pretty sure there’s a few alts that let you make it off of just oil not sure though

[compact flicker]

This is correct

[glass pagoda]

I don't like screws

[severe cliff]

this website can show you all the rates and stuff if you search up what your tryna make https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[primal obsidian]

I hate screws

[abstract heron]

[worthy marsh]

[formal minnow]

turns out my last save file is from october of 2024, literally version 1.0
should i just keep running with it

[compact flicker]

Idk how big 1.1 was, but I usually make a new save when a game gets a major update

[wicked nacelle]

if you put ingots on the belt and just make screws as you use them then there's no problem. just don't make a screw factory and try to ship them out centrally

[hard ivy]

as you should

[sacred trail]

Are any super secrets in the game? Or are these alien messages just flavor?

[open swallow]

There's more to the alien messages. Keep collecting Mercer Spheres. 😉

[brazen coral]

Honestly did not know how train tracks worked, I thought a junction was a separate piece instead of trying to connect the piece back to another one

[formal minnow]

arachniphobia mode has done nothing to make me less scared of these creatures and instead i now flinch whenever i hear meowing

[wicked nacelle]

I mean the alien voices are just flavor. the items themselves do cool stuff but the story is basically just tacked on to the game mechanics

[west hazel]

wait until you get up to the higher tier stuff, turbo motors and cooling systems, im working on setting those up now, lol

[terse drift]

Why do all of my lights change color if i change a color on a lighting control panel? All of my lights have their own separate panels but they seem to share colors, are the colors global?

[wicked nacelle]

no should be based on power line hookup. testing now

...waiting like 90 seconds for my save to actually load.....

[tender loom]

ayo are geotermic generators good?

like my factory is running out on energy very quickly

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1446231496296890368/image.png?ex=69333b8a&is=6931ea0a&hm=45d676cd3f61f93bf20efbea6abcab6a812b478cb829a6e032d50c20f5833554& seems fine

[tender loom]

bcs im only using coal generators

[wicked nacelle]

they're fine ... they're really only useful if you unlock them early and get them down in a bunch of spots

once you get fuel gens they're basically worthless

no reason NOT to put them down but they aren't a meaningful contribution

[tender loom]

i alr got fuel

[wicked nacelle]

but you're not using it

[tender loom]

ye

[spice spindle]

I'm so confused .how do we get access to the ficmas mam tree? it's still locked for me

[wicked nacelle]

if you want to go exploring and put down 10 of them or something then it will be a significant upgrade over the coal you probably have

[summer stump]

[wicked nacelle]

the calendar in the HUB right by the unlock computer

[terse drift]

Oh i worded my question poorly, mb. If i change a color in the panel are all the lights that use the color meant to change? Am i limited to these 7 color slots?

[wicked nacelle]

yes

just like swatches

[terse drift]

Oh that sucks

thanks for your help tho

[wicked nacelle]

it kinda sucks, but it's kinda nice. That way if you decide to change a color scheme you just change it one place

[terse drift]

Its bad for me because ive been changing color schemes everywhere

having that persistent lighting from afar helps alot.

ill see if i can just free up some slots i guess

Turns out that i havent used 3 slots so it was no big deal, they had random colors in them so i wasnt sure.

[sacred trail]

Is there any way to know if I have something in a storage that I forgot about? Can I see how many computers I currently have or similar?

[grizzled lotus]

I plugged in some power shards but for some reason the math won't work out.I have a single water pump feeding two coal generators but it's not enough, it keeps tripping.

the water pump produces 180m3, and the coal generators take 90m3 and 45m3 which is less. why is it tripping?

[summer stump]

do we get to keep the ficsmas tree after the event is over

[white dawn]

Not exactly, but if you switch to your dismantle tool and hover over a storage container, it'll show you the counts of its contents

[sacred trail]

That's a cool tip. Ty

[white dawn]

If you want a more map-wide overview, I think SCIM might show you some numbers like that

[flat cosmos]

guys is there anywhere to report game bugs?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[white dawn]

^ there

[white dawn]

Yep, anything you place down will remain there forever (or until you dismantle it). You won't be able to place any new FICSMAS decorations, though

[summer stump]

thats a little bit annoying, what if I wanna move my tree to make room for my factor later

[white dawn]

Better not put it in the way of future factory locations, then! :D

[mortal ginkgo]

wait, the decoration items are not permanent?! D:

[white dawn]

They are permanent, you just can't place new ones

[mortal ginkgo]

I worded my question wrong and ok thats annoying to be fair.

[white dawn]

Although I believe there's a mod which lets you enable FICSMAS whenever, so you could always use that. Or just wait until next FICSMAS to re-build it. :)

[summer stump]

im not omnicient

[echo belfry]

Satisfactory X ultrakill when

[white dawn]

Of course not, but you are the one who decides where to put factories in the future. If you don't want to dismantle your Giant FICSMAS Tree because you'd then be unable to re-place it, it just becomes any other "permanent" feature of the landscape

[mortal ginkgo]

wat.

[white dawn]

You'd handle it just like you would any other geographical feature: something to build around and work with

[weary ember]

Quick question

Is there any unspoken rule about mention the other factory game

[white dawn]

As I say, if it really does bother you, I believe there's a mod to enable the event whenever you like

[compact flicker]

That's inefficient, why aren't you?

[echo belfry]

You know what we do the the inefficient right?

[white dawn]

Heh, you can mention any other factory game whenever you like, though if the discussion veers into that game specifically, without Satisfactory links, it might be best in #off-topic-general

I assume you mean Factorio. There are a lot of Factorio players in here at all times. :)

[summer stump]

[weary ember]

I was just going to draw a comparison and ask about something

[white dawn]

Yeah, go for it. :)

[echo belfry]

Fa**orio is not as good as satisfactory

[white dawn]

Eh, they're two very different games

[weary ember]

Your right

It's a different game and therefore trying to say one is better is an apple to oranges comparison

[white dawn]

There's folks here who prefer Factorio to Satisfactory. All depends on what you're actually looking for in a Factory sim, plus whatever your personal predelictions are like. :)

[echo belfry]

👍

[weary ember]

I was just going to say I would love to see

1 a mod that adds the factorio steam engine as an alternative to the normal one (or just some kind of animated steam piston engine)

2 when is someone going to mod a tank into satisfactory

[sullen gull]

oooo, good word usage 😏

[tawdry forge]

I have a "Totally Normal Ficsmas Gift" in my way. Is there a way to set it off without being in the blast radius?

[sullen gull]

Can't you shoot them? (Don't remember)

[weary ember]

Wait... There are ones that explode

[mortal ginkgo]

eventually disappears, I tried to explode it with its counterpart but didnt work

[tawdry forge]

You'll know them when you see them.

[white dawn]

Heh, could be it's already done; there's a mods database which is pretty easy to browse

[mortal ginkgo]

They are kinda.. obvious to say the least.

[tawdry forge]

I just posted a #screenshots

[summer stump]

I wish you could disable gift drops once you have a few ficsmas gift trees

my factory's a mess because gifts keep falling from the sky

[white dawn]

The present drops turn off after, I think, 10 placed Gift Trees

[summer stump]

oh sweet

I have 7

[mortal ginkgo]

just extra info, they do not cause issues of factory making, they only collision with you

[summer stump]

I have 10 down now, gifts still drop from the sky

@white dawn any ideas

wait no thats my bad I didnt count correctly

[lunar python]

its just 10 😭

[summer stump]

I ran out of ingredients before I placed the 10th and then forgot I did that and believed I had 10 anyway

I should probably go get checked for adhd

[slate swan]

probably answered already, but it the constructor able to make twice as many red ornaments as blue ornaments intended?

sorry, i mean twice as many blue as red

[gentle lion]

Yeah I really don't have enough stuff setup at all... Highest tier stuff were the three elevator parts I made

[strong fiber]

How many rotors and renforced irom plates should i make a min early game because i need to build a coal power plant

[cunning lily]

What are the respawn rules for vegetation? Trying to figure out the best way to feed a biofuel system.

[lunar python]

Foliage cannot be planted and will never regrow, so with enough dedication, all of it can be removed from the world.

[cunning lily]

Oh what. I thought it might respawn. Wild. You're sure about that?

[lunar python]

straight from the wiki

[strong fiber]

How many rotors and renforced irom plates should i make a min early game because i need to build a coal power plant

[lunar python]

!wikisearch flora

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=flora

[mortal ginkgo]

10/min is cool imho

[strong fiber]

of plates and rotors?

[mortal ginkgo]

oh sorry, 10/min plates and 5/min rotors more than enough

[strong fiber]

Well i got 240 iron min coming in is that enough

[mortal ginkgo]

check the recipe

[sullen gull]

Find more iron if not 🙂 There is plenty on the map

[magic nest]

god i came back to my world after not being in it for a long ass time due to playing with my friends in his world and i’m so overwhelmed

[strong fiber]

I already harvested all in the area bru

[sullen gull]

There is a whole map, bru 😛

[strong fiber]

Theres two untapped impures nearby

imma get those rq

[sullen gull]

I do wish the game did "better" at explaining the "benefits" of not trying to do everything in one area. The map is not THAT big once one has explored it.

[strong fiber]

I know the map isnt that big but even close nodes take a while to belt overb

[sullen gull]

Or find an area just over a ridge and build the factory near the nodes

[strong fiber]

wait i gotta make modular frames too

definitely will need more iron

[sullen gull]

And then heavy modular frames, then Encased Ind Beams 😏

[strong fiber]

imma get copper sheets done then worry about iron

How many modular frames will i need

[sullen gull]

If it were me, I would plan for the Modular frame factory to roll right into a heavy mod frame factory.

[strong fiber]

wait i can unlock trucks

[strong fiber]

so do i build it yet or wha

[marble gulch]

Spend an hour and a half building train tracks from rocky desert to the other desert

[sullen gull]

The answer is always subjective to your personal goals. If one has patience, 10/min of most things will be fine. But, Ideally, if it were me, I would start with one machine's worth. For mod frames, I like steal screws > Bolted frame chain. A single machine's worth would be 5/min, and can up that by either overclocking or doubling production... if your current belt speeds can handle.

[strong fiber]

I have access to mk 2s but cant build bug mk belts because lack of reinforced plates

[sullen gull]

On the flip side of that, some like to max out a full node as well. 🤷‍♂️ . Again, all depends on personal preferences.

[spice spindle]

If you die without the hubb being built, where do you respawn???

[sullen gull]

One "quick" way to progress is by exploring and collection the items around the hard drive sites. Can complete a ton of milestones and research just by that alone.

[mortal ginkgo]

these questions will not end unless you check what a modular frame do. I will answer this time too but you can check codex by pressing N and see what it is needed for. personally for me 4/min was overkill.

But thats all you can get from me from now on 😛

[leaden turret]

spawn point

[mortal ginkgo]

your game start point

[sullen gull]

Central of your starting area.

[steep creek]

kinda wish you could kill the flying manta ray thing ngl

[sullen gull]

Can also press O to see reciepes, where they are used, avg number of items needed, etc

[white dawn]

Heh, sounds like you were maybe just missing one. Though if they keep falling anyway, maybe just try a save+reload and see if it clears up then

[mortal ginkgo]

Good point.

[sullen gull]

And a great way to re-listen to ADA belittle you 🤣

[strong fiber]

imma go look at a map and get hard drive sites ig

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[mortal ginkgo]

wait how?

[steep creek]

in the inbox tab

[mortal ginkgo]

oh the inbox

[sullen gull]

Inbox 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

I will have you know that she said I am her favourite pioneer.

YEAH YOU HEARD THAT RIGHT BROTHERMAN

[sullen gull]

Waaaaaait a second .... she told me the SAME!!!

[mortal ginkgo]

THAT CHEATING HOSE OF AN AI! I tell you that much!

[sullen gull]

Anyone else seem like they are getting more "mesh tearing (don't know what else to call it lol) since the last update? #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

calm down it's clearly parallel universes

[sullen gull]

With pocket dimensions!

[steep creek]

i havent experienced this

[sullen gull]

Where were to last night ... there was discussion on making an IRL factory cart! 😏

[steep creek]

i mean for me the textures just look like smooth but not like that with the triangular pattern

maybe update ur graphics drivers ig

[sullen gull]

Yeah, upgraded to the Nov 4 Nvidia release yesterday in effort to "correct"

[steep creek]

hm

[mortal ginkgo]

lately I heard reports of latest drivers being wack, try to downgrade it

[sullen gull]

In general? Or on specific models/series?

[mortal ginkgo]

in general

dont trust my word but keep in mind at least

[sullen gull]

DOH ... forgot I had to drop down to DX11 due to a mod ... Going to try and go back to 12 and see if that was it....

[unkempt blade]

playing IRL games and eating amazing tacos I hope you all figured out how to make real carts though

[sullen gull]

Well, unfortunately the other guy is "across the pond" ... But, it peaked my interest and thinking of coming up with my own rendition after the first of the year. Though, I am rather tall, so it'd be a clown car scenario for sure 🤣

Hrmmm, a little upset that they can make it snow... but not rain?? 😭

[mental raft]

turbine would fit satisfactory much better than piston englinge, if you want piston use fuel gen

[sullen gull]

And yeah, for anyone following, it was DX11 that was doing it.

[sullen gull]

Hydro would be sick.... utilize these water falls and streams with "flow" 😏

[sullen gull]

Check out Refined Power

[mental raft]

yeAAH But the devs dont really like the idea o green energy except geothermal

[sullen gull]

Ahhh, but there was a mention in the past that Hydro wasn't completely off the table. Solar though, nixed

[mortal ginkgo]

I can see people putting 349058304859730495830458034 amount of windmills because its easier than coal gen and pipe shenanigans

I can like, clearly see it, chungus see it, ultra see it.

[unkempt blade]

I don't know what you're talking about ficsonium is the greenest of energy

[mental raft]

except that too

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/jeju-island-ocean-sea-wind-power-generator-wind-gif-11887907

[mental raft]

is it really classified as green energy

[mortal ginkgo]

ENTIRE OCEAN

[unkempt blade]

whenever this stuff gets brought up what I suggest is they just need some sort of "maintenance" cost that it gets fed with a conveyor/pipe. Maybe solar power needs silicon and copper or something? Maybe wind needs rotors or motors or something?

[sullen gull]

Probably falls in line with what was said in that same video, that they are trying to refrain from any "extra" stressors like that 😛 But, this was a good while ago as well 😛

[unkempt blade]

yeah I get from a game design point of view why you don't want a crazy mount of power that's free once build like geo

but I think more flexibility around what you could turn into power and just handwave the reason it needs those things is in the spirit of things

[mortal ginkgo]

then people will say "why does coal gens dont need meintenance?!?!?!?!?!?!?"

or at worst, they will just mod it out

[sullen gull]

But, even with GEO there is that caveat of needing power storage to sort of "stabalize" geo

[wicked nacelle]

they require coal and water

[mortal ginkgo]

thats not meintenance, you don't understand the "lazy newbie" mind.

they will say "well they are coal gen so they need those DOOOOOOOOH OMG BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[wicked nacelle]

the game has tons of other inconsistencies before someone would need to complain about that.

[unkempt blade]

this discord is full of pedants so you're probably correct about some amount doing that 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

someone will always complain about something, especially when something "that supposed to be free" has a cost.

[sullen gull]

What I want to know ... even though I lurv it and it's constantly in hand, WHY THE HECK DID THEY GIVE US A COFFE CUP IF WE'RE WEARING A HELMET!!?? 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

the real point is that there's plenty of power in the world already and if they want to change power adding more isn't making the game any better

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, sometimes they got a point like "why water piping so hard and got no tutorials?" but I can hear it already in my ears when a balance patch would occur for such meintenance.

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, it is a factory-based product feeding its own workers by itself. Expect all kind of jank.

Also coffee = stay more awake = more work etc.

[unkempt blade]

to hold our drink

[sullen gull]

Yeah, yeah, I get the premise 🤣 . The damn "jitter clank" when you go ham on it still cracks me up.

[warm dune]

question, does power consumption go up everytime you use a portal?

[strong fiber]

Should i get iron wire

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure I just place unpowered portals right in front of my hypertube entrances because they look cool but I don't want to deal with their resource needs

[mental raft]

imagine not having a massive nuclear power plant uzkng all the wpr;ds uranium at max efficiency to have to worry aboutpwer

[sullen gull]

If you're not sure if you need a recipe, just leave it in your list. It won't come up on the next scans. When you need it, it's there. And, there are enough hard drives on the map to eventually get all alts and research .

[unkempt blade]

Yes it's awesome. If you can't decide between the two recipes just flip a coin

[strong fiber]

Its iron wire or caterium wure

[unkempt blade]

both awesome! flip a coin

[wicked nacelle]

don't pick either until you want to use one

[strong fiber]

u smart

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ each good in their own right. But, again, if you don't plan on using it just yet, you can leave them there.

[strong fiber]

Then it also makes sure i cant get them again

[unkempt blade]

but picking motivates you to find a contrived use for it!

[compact flicker]

I love iron wire

[sullen gull]

I mean, technically what I just said too 😛

[slate python]

Anyone have a crazy over the top factory for fixmas

[strong fiber]

I have 420/min iron now is that enough or do i need more

[unkempt blade]

the answer is always more until your computer becomes sad

[compact flicker]

Pairs really well with iron pipe and steel rotors

Motors with just iron? Yes please

[strong fiber]

sad i dont have a computer

[mental raft]

havent played ye dd they change anything froom last years

[slate python]

Idk

[unkempt blade]

and stitched plates + iron wire is amazing

[sullen gull]

Lol, don't ask me lol. I will tell you that you should be overclocking all your miners and max out the node for products 🤣

[slate python]

Just got satisfactory this year

[compact flicker]

I believe its the same as last year

[strong fiber]

I only got 4 power slugs

[sullen gull]

Idk about "amazing".. 3 every 60 seconds? vs 5 every 24 with bolted? 😛

[strong fiber]

I havent turned em into power shards until i get the sloop

[mental raft]

i dont play singleplayer satisfactory anymore k now just play zervers but its so hard to find a good one

[unkempt blade]

but only iron! it's so easy to build so just build more

[mental raft]

jeez i make so many typos on the steam deck keyboard

[slate python]

Are present factory’s a thing

[compact flicker]

Bolted needs screws, so its automatically worse

[wicked nacelle]

you should have them unlocked already

[sullen gull]

Slugs are everywhere. However, I'd suggest finding some SAM, Mercers, and sloops, and research the Alien Tech in the MAM. Then you can make constructors to produce the slugs and get 2x the normal shards. (blue =2, yellow = 4, purple = 10)

[sullen gull]

Just ... no...

This hate for screws is hilarious to me 😛

[unkempt blade]

you just need some cast screws in your life

[strong fiber]

yeah the somer sloopss

[wicked nacelle]

it's because people try to belt them from a screw factory

[strong fiber]

Thats why i have waited

[compact flicker]

Got some MK8 belts to carry the billions of screws per second yall need?

[wicked nacelle]

you don't have to wait. process them normal until you have sloops then when you have sloops sloop them. There's TONS of slugs out there and they're super useful earlier on your miners./

[sullen gull]

Steel screws = <3. And then Alubeams >steel screws is like ..... well, it's awesome .. that is all 🤣

[strong fiber]

I dont even need shards right now anyways

[unkempt blade]

if you're trying to manifold them all in you're already using screws wrong for a lot of recipes 😆

[slate python]

No I mean are presents like a thing in the wild of do you have to make them and what do they do

[sullen gull]

4800 = 4x mk6.. easy peasy.

[wicked nacelle]

you should want them on your miners

[sullen gull]

Well, sucky that you don't get mk6 till the very end of the game ...... but still 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

have you started ficsmas? The answer to this presents itself pretty obviously

[mental raft]

id reccomend getting slooping first as ith hard rrive crash sites yyu can unlock

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch FICSMAS

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=FICSMAS

[mental raft]

nthen use for shards and DNA

[sullen gull]

erm, hard drives have nothing to do with slooping?

Just having the item(s)/power required to unlock

[mental raft]

ik im saying get the items gjere to unlck sllooping early

[spice spindle]

Man....I'm wondering if i should just enable flight. Now that I have to build bigger things, it's annoying setting up lookout towers all over the place e.e.

I don't wanna miss out on achievements though

[sullen gull]

Oh, yes. But, more so need SAM...

[sullen gull]

Hover pack?

[mental raft]

I HATE TYPIG O THS STUOID TIYn STEAM DECK EYBOARD

[compact flicker]

Your problems will be solved with equipment in the near future

[spice spindle]

don't have it :/

I'm stuck on phase 3 or 4. I can't remember

[sullen gull]

Also, use liquid bio (or ionized) in the jetpack. Can flutter for a good long bit with either.

[spice spindle]

i'm in the tier where I unlocked trains

[unkempt blade]

you need to carry around a bluetooth keyboard at all time - problem solved!

[mental raft]

idk how to connect steam dek o b

[spice spindle]

but I'm stuck trying to create the next project assembly parts cause I can't figure out train routes well

[sullen gull]

Ahh, yeah it's in phase 4

[spice spindle]

💀

[mental raft]

i love trains

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I'm still a complete noob with trains 🤣

[spice spindle]

I'm bad at trains.... I don't know how to create a network or bigger factories

[mental raft]

i good trakn

[spice spindle]

I've watched so many guides but they aren't very helpful 💀

[mental raft]

my life is trains

trakns are rverythig

[tawdry forge]

Do we have a release date for 1.2?

[spark sky]

After watching a video on YouTube, I was able to make this blueprint: #screenshots message
I had been trying to figure out how to make a larger circular building.

[sullen gull]

This you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TLyqBIkaec 🤣

[spice spindle]

the BIGGEST issue I have is....idk how to make a station hub?

[leaden turret]

first half of 2026, but not january

[unkempt blade]

just go play cities skylines for a while then build monstrosities like #screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

it's crazy that they announced 1.2 so far in advance as it's such a minor change

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="train station" and "architecture"

[leaden turret]

why do you think it's a minor change?

[sullen gull]

Has it been stated what it's going to contain?

[wicked nacelle]

especially considering the fluid truck was already done since it was in the video

[leaden turret]

still waiting on why you think 1.2 is a minor change

[unkempt blade]

vehicles that can carry liquids which are most likely mk2 factory carts because what else would they be

[sullen gull]

I feel that there is going to be more too it than just the truck

[wicked nacelle]

maybe. but teasing it this far in advance just seems silly

[leaden turret]

.... are you new here?

[sullen gull]

Because, very few move liquids by train anyhow, so what makes them think pioneers would want to use trucks? 🤔

[wicked nacelle]

I'm going to just put you back on ignore

[unkempt blade]

People truly do hate fun. Moving liquids by train is a great reason to use trains more

[leaden turret]

oh no, person that doesn't know the history of past patches is ignoring me because I poked fun at their ignorance of the history of past patches

how terrrrrrrible

[wicked nacelle]

I would hope most people just don't move liquids very far at all.

[sullen gull]

I won't disagree as trains are the one part of the game I have spent about .7% of time on lol. And, knowing me, I would totally move fluids by train "just because" 😏

[wicked nacelle]

water is basically everywhere and oil can be used on site

[unkempt blade]

if it doesn't make at least one complete lap around the map before getting used is it even really a logistics game?

[leaden turret]

🏭 🚽

[sullen gull]

🤣 you'd hate my saves for sure 🙂

[mental raft]

toilet emoji?

[leaden turret]

moving liquids by train

[sullen gull]

I move fluids all over the map 🙂 With ZERO issues

[mental raft]

ah, i love trains

[sullen gull]

Just not by train .... yet 🤣

[mental raft]

on my first nuclear plant i moved inche water nby train jntil my nrother destroyed the signalling znd thtrain routes

brother*

[sullen gull]

Hell, everyone is probably going to call me nuts for what I plan to do with all the oil nodes and recourse wells in this current save I am working in 😛

[mental raft]

what

[blazing radish]

hello guys! i had just one question on my mind and that would be: how well does this game run on steam deck? i heard it drops frames late game but is it extremly bad or just slightly? also can i saw people runing it on like Low graphics but would medium work?

[sullen gull]

Worse than trains probably 🤣

[mental raft]

im on steam deck rn lol tyoig from it,rit actuslly runs quite well

[leaden turret]

• it runs
• they're working on getting it verified

[wicked nacelle]

that was exactly my experience - you can easily finish the story on steam deck but building past that is painful

[sullen gull]

Same experience here.

[blazing radish]

are you running it on low or medium?

also on a scale from 1-10 how good is it late game?

[wicked nacelle]

it becomes unplayable for sure.

but I'm talking a BIG save

[unkempt blade]

like with thousands of factory carts and hundreds of trains?

[wicked nacelle]

you don't expect mobile hardware at 30W to handle something a 200W CPU struggles with

[mental raft]

havent played for a while using it in desktop mode rn id say a 7, not as good s pc but works s

[wicked nacelle]

it's CPU constrained not GPU in most cases

[blazing radish]

oooh- i see

i only ask cuz i really want the game and i was gonna get it for PS5 but im getting kinda impatient and i saw steam had a sale goin

[mental raft]

id say my PC with 4070 i5 14thgen 32gb ram 1tb ssd is about a 8.5

[wicked nacelle]

the console version will run further into late game I'm sure. but you can put hundreds of hours into it on steam deck and be okay

[blazing radish]

tl;dr should i risk the deck version or just wait till i can get it on PS5?

[mental raft]

id d=say get steam deck

[blazing radish]

mmmh i see i see, thats actually not as bad as i thought 👀

[mental raft]

as someone whos spent 300hrs on satisfactory on steam deck

[wicked nacelle]

have you played any other factory games? If you have 1500 hours in factorio then get it on ps5

[blazing radish]

not quite, cant say i have

satisfactory was the first of this genrr that actually intruiged me

[wicked nacelle]

then you'll likely be fine either way 🙂 I'd get it for ps5 if you really only want to play it from the couch. If mobile is interesting at all then steam deck.

of course steam deck gives you the opportunity to play it the way it's meant to -- with mouse and keyboard

[blazing radish]

gotcha! thank you so much for being so kind, yall! just one last question, does this game look bad on low graphics or is it still pretty?

[mental raft]

steam deck is also mre versatile with desktop mode which im using rn to type this

[mental raft]

still pretty

[wicked nacelle]

it's fine in low. It's obviously noticable but it's fine

[slate python]

No

[wicked nacelle]

then go start it and enjoy learning 🙂

[mental raft]

id def get the OLED versionc though its mjch better display

[wicked nacelle]

I was assuming he already had it and the ps5

[blazing radish]

sadly not at the liberty of doing that ^^'

i got an LCD one

[mental raft]

still good

[wicked nacelle]

it's fine -- and valve was good for not doing (much of) a performance change between the two

[slate python]

Bru

[blazing radish]

oh neat! so in summary, i can expirience all thos game has to offer on steam deck without major lag spikes, right?

[mental raft]

ah sorry i thought he didnt as in one of the messages tey said there was sale whch i assumes meant they ddt have it

[mental raft]

yep

[wicked nacelle]

once you play this game on 2x game speed it's sooo hard to play back at normal

[sullen gull]

Bit of battery performance due to the OLED.... kinda miffed that I got my LCD one when I did as it was right before the OLED version came out 😒

[wicked nacelle]

the memory is a smudge faster on oled too. but for graphically intensive games the battery life on all of htem is trash so I always carry a battery bank with it

or plugged in on an airplane or wahtever

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I never think of playing it unless I have a plug nearby 😛

[wicked nacelle]

for stardew valley it runs for many hours... but not 3d games

[blazing radish]

wait actually one ACTUALLY final question

does the performance tank really heavily if i set it to medium graphics?? (still on steam deck)

[sullen gull]

I also upgraded mine to a 2tb nvme

[wicked nacelle]

you can customize the settings beyond the presets so you can get it however you want it -- and the answer depends how complex your factory is -- both worldwide (for CPU) and locally (fpor GPU)

[wicked nacelle]

I just grabbed a few sd cards

[blazing radish]

hmmm interesting!

yeah i think i'll get it on steam then, thank you for the kind words and genuinely helpful feedback <3

hope yall have a good night!

[wicked nacelle]

you may find yourself wanting to lower the settings as you get further into the game.. and that's okay

[blazing radish]

aww thats quite dissapointing but hey at least i get to play ^^'

[wicked nacelle]

any open world game where you can create arbitrary levels of complexity will have diminishing performance over time

[blazing radish]

yeah fair enough

woukd the performance issues be fixed if i just made a factory like far away

and started new there again? (would be kinda impracticle but might work maybe maybe..?)

[sullen gull]

Not really as all items are more or less loaded once the save is loaded I thought? (By way of UObjects at least)

[wicked nacelle]

Like I said --world copmlexity hits your CPU local complexity hits your GPU

so depending on what limits you're hitting means what you can do differently (if anything)

you'll be fine. I shouldn't have said anything 🙂

[blazing radish]

nah youre good! im glad youre giving me a heads up

way better than just a "yeah it'll work!" and then it doesnt ^^'

[sullen gull]

Is it feasible/possible for them to utilize the GPU more for calculations and such?

[wicked nacelle]

It really works best when stuff that needs to be kept between frames is done on the CPU which has fast access to system RAM and stuff that is throwaway per frame is done on GPU. For the types of operations done for "world updates" it really is best suited to your CPU. GPU is optimized for graphics-style math.

There can be exceptions to these rules of course but the current design that is used basically everywhere is generally the correct design

[strong fiber]

I got reinforced plates 10/min and 60/min copper sheets is that good

[wicked nacelle]

what we may see some day is game updates sending stuff off to the GPU for actual AI game content and the results coming back to the CPU to do a world update based on the AI decisions...

[strong fiber]

Im working on rotors rn

[wicked nacelle]

its' good for now 🙂

[strong fiber]

ok

5/min rotors rigjt

[gentle lion]

I am bad at this stuff I just scrapped my entire fuel Gen setup gonna start from scratch and make it woke correctly

[strong fiber]

Actually 10/min rotors but then i need 5 belts of screws

[reef basin]

why would you need 5 belts of screws? make screws directly in front of the machine that needs them

[wicked nacelle]

one belt of iron ingots turns into 4 belts worth of screws -- with alts a belt of steel turns into way more

[rain junco]

with alts you don't need screws

[reef basin]

yeah, but there's also nothing wrong with screws

[wicked nacelle]

but you likely need something else that's high throughput. The point is belt efficiency is something that needs to be considered

[sullen gull]

Man, editing all these bluprint icons and colors is causing the UObjest limit to just go up and up and up an .. 😒

[wicked nacelle]

it will go back down

my main save -- it goes up 100k each time I open the map

[sullen gull]

Applied, closed menu, still at 1.667 mil and continuously climbing

And I am just standing here 😭

[wicked nacelle]

it's an asynchronous cleanup with different conditions

[sullen gull]

1.69 mil now... Oh .. wait, it dropped to 1.67 ....

The sad thing is that it's only at 581k on first log in

[wicked nacelle]

it it crashes bump it to 100M if it doesn't then don't care 🙂

[sullen gull]

I have it at 10 mil atm 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

There's no reason to change it and not crank it all the way. You're already technically "not supported"

[sullen gull]

Relogged, and it's back to 566k, but, again just continuously rising. I mean, I would expect it to rise and then fall back to that starting number.. But nm, it just did

OK, 24 bp's left to edit, let's see what happens 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

there's a difference between a leak and UE just deciding it doesn't need to do garbage collection

without seeing the code you can't really tell which it is

[sullen gull]

It doesn't help that I have to run in DX11 either because of this one mod, and only needing to if I want to delete a place BP. Else I get a nanite crash 😒

Though, not sure of course if DX version matters in that regard.

[wicked nacelle]

uobjects should be completely independent of graphics backend. I could be wrong but it feels pretty safe

[cosmic pawn]

i see a present in the distance. should i go grab it?

[wicked nacelle]

do you like presents?

[cosmic pawn]

yes

[wicked nacelle]

then go take it before someone else does

[sullen gull]

Lol, exactly what I was just about to ask 🤣

[cosmic pawn]

im in singleplayer

what would i get from it?

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch FICSMAS

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=FICSMAS

[cosmic pawn]

now there is like 5 of them

how often do they spawn?

[strong fiber]

I finally got blade runners

[sullen gull]

Forever during the event, or until to build so many trees

[strong fiber]

How do i get access to the christmas tech tree

[sullen gull]

Take a look at the link posted just a minute ago

OMG ... 🤦‍♂️ Updated all 24 bp's and forgot to hit apply 😭

And also back up to 1.33mill from just doing that ...

[cinder compass]

why do we still not have first person camera for vehicles. Would love that

first person train would be sick too

[mortal ginkgo]

maybe because we don't need it other than it being "cool for the first time".

we are here to expand the factory and exploit, not have joy rides.

get back to work.

[quartz dome]

Dont know where to write this, but the harddrive infinite rerole exploite is back, if you open the 5th of dec you get a harddrive, that is always random, so you put it into the MAM and resurch it, if you dont like it, load bevor you opend the 5th and repeat.

[open swallow]

Shush, don't let them know

At least until I get a chance to use it

[quartz dome]

should i delete my text?

[open swallow]

I'm kidding, relax. Up to you.

[quartz dome]

have fun

[last tartan]

thank you, Satisfactory

for sending my truck halfway across the map when i used it to travel with all of my belongings solely because i left autopilot on.

[hallow star]

lol

[quartz dome]

from the aperance aof your name i get the feeling that wasnt your first rodeo

[cyan leaf]

Ngl how did u do that 😭 more or less talking about the autopilot pathing

[quartz dome]

he may has mad to big landmiarks, cause they are set in an interval and the truck takes the shortest route between them

[umbral dagger]

I noticed my biomass plants have come to a halt since I've been using coal generation. Is there a reason to keep my biomass burners, belts and all, or would I be okay to remove them to make up some more room

[severe cliff]

anyone know how i can make a blueprint that curves for train tracks

[zealous valley]

You can get rid of your biomass gens

Since they can't be automated anyway

[umbral dagger]

Thank you.

[quartz dome]

i think chaos 1699 made a totorial about that, i might be wrong

[severe cliff]

on yt?

[quartz dome]

yes, but he is german

the video iam refering to "Satisfactory Tutorial: Tipps & Tricks für das perfekte Zug-Netzwerk"

[severe cliff]

ok thank you i’ll try and find it

[strong fiber]

I just finished automating 10/min reinforced plates 9.5/min rotors and 60/min copper sheets

[quartz dome]

it begins on minute 22:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArT6sjHUUOI

[outer turret]

Hi, what is the general consensus on the dissolved silica pipeline?

[last tartan]

i do not even know, at all. I am in the process of moving my whole base of operations and i brougt my truck full of belongings over. I realize i didnt bring iron so i went to go fetch some (nearest deposit is 800m away) and im bakc and my truck is gone. I look on the map and its right back to doing the same loop it was.

[wind marsh]

any tips for redoing my starter factory? im wanting to automate important materials, but im not sure what. its in the grass fields, and im already making a large motor factory somewhere else. what alls important to make?

[severe cliff]

how could i make the foundations curve aswell?

[quartz dome]

use sidewalks

in archetecture in the awasom fixit shop you can by modern catwalks wish you can adjust inm tiny steps to make curves, after you placed the catwalks you can place the concret ore metal foundation on the catwalk and you can make "curves"

[severe cliff]

thank you sm

i wish they would j add some sort of curve

[quartz dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwyyYpe0c4 little totorial on YT

"tutorial

[quartz dome]

would be nice to have a factory that is smoth without clipping foundations into eac outher

[unkempt blade]

sorry only 90 and 45 degree angle foundation are approved by space OSHA

anything else might hurt you

[quartz dome]

iam already hurt

i have alitle question usualy i use Alternat: Heavy oil Residue to have a resource efficiente Crude Oil powerplant, where i also dilude the fuel.
is there a better way, like with turbo fule?

[dense violet]

Good set of recipes if you need both silica and crystal

[cinder compass]

you are the reason we dont have golf

[sturdy mural]

dang according to Discord Checkpoint this is my 3rd most talked in server

there is still hope tho

[ocean frost]

We don't have time for gold xd

[wicked nacelle]

disolved silica is painful because it uses nitrogen a VERY limited resource late game

pure quartz and cheap silica is a better route -- that's either as quartz efficient or more quartz efficient (it's close) and without wsting nitrogen -- some people think nitrogen isn't rare. Those people don't build late game.

[ocean frost]

What are you doing with all the nitrogen

[wicked nacelle]

cooling systems, fused frames, nitric acid for nuclear, rocket fuel. it disappears fast

of course nothing is limited until you're out but once you're out you realize there isn't much in the way of alternatives other than to take it away from other things

though perhaps I should have made more use of "cooling device" as it's more than twice as nitrogen efficienct

or who knows maybe I already am

anyhow, it disappears fast as. you ramp up late game production

and if you're not in late game production you don't need that much quartz/silica anyhow to have it make sense to add nitrogen which is probably not super convenient

[ocean frost]

Using up all the nitrogen is a choice people can make it's very rarely a limit people will naturally hit.

[wicked nacelle]

same with quartz so why do weird stuff

[ocean frost]

Really depends on the project not every build is for project Assembly

[wicked nacelle]

I was just answering the original question. It's not needed, and it introduces another rare ingredient that's probably not convenient.

"Good set of recipes if you need both silica and crystal" - it's really not

[ocean frost]

People love to go crazy with plastic, rubber, aluminum and uranium it's not much different

[wicked nacelle]

using water and limestone you can do at least as good and those are likely convenient

[ocean frost]

And fuel don't forget fuel

[buoyant veldt]

Where do y'all tend to build your megafactories?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't

[rustic spear]

I know it's not happening this year, but next year for Ficsmas, I want ADA to bring me an automated firework launcher that I can use to absolutely melt my motherboard.

[ocean frost]

The ocean is very flat, the sky also

[buoyant veldt]

Yeah but where in the sky? I'm currently building just south of where the titan forest and red bamboo forest meet. Wanted to know if that's an insane place to build.

[cyan leaf]

Is caterium and quartz used during the last few phases?

[wind marsh]

any reccomendations on where i can make a decently sized weapons factory?

[open swallow]

I feel a little insane right now... I can feed 50 fuel generators with less than 300 oil??

turning it into turbofuel

[ocean frost]

Look for a biome that you want to spend the next 50 hours in

[cyan leaf]

Depends on which starting point

[open swallow]

my bottleneck is 300/min of sulfur, which is where I get the 50 generator limit

[cyan leaf]

Cause turbo burns slower then normal fuel

[ocean frost]

You can always belt in truck or train I'm resources

[buoyant veldt]

Quartz is needed unless you only use alt recipes. Caterium is needed and makes life way easier because it lets you make smart splitters.

Even then I think quartz might still be needed, but bauxite refining can be done without it.

[wind marsh]

i started in grass fields but im open to all but dune desert (if thats the one wayyy north) just because i don't feel the need to go that far just yet

[ocean frost]

Green fields has poor node quality

[wind marsh]

and i dont know how i want to start getting trains up there just yet, whether its thru the red forest or around it

so where would be a good area? northern forest?

[cyan leaf]

Alr alr cause I find quartz nodes but idk if worth automating and my caterium is taking up to much room 😭

[wind marsh]

its not a new save so im fine with going decent distance, ive just been running from the spiders instead of fighting them so far lol

[ocean frost]

Dune desert is really good

[autumn turtle]

hey do we have patch notes for the update tomorrow by chance?

[buoyant veldt]

I plan to build a weapons factory near the blue crater. It's already got loads of oil, coal, and sulfur.

[wind marsh]

would it be worth using the sulfur there for weapons, or should i try and use that for later on when i need a lot of sulfur?

[wind marsh]

i think im using most of the sulfur there already, i set up a turbo power plant recently\

[buoyant veldt]

At a certain point I just turned the monsters to passive because a lot of the high level enemies feel like bullet sponges in a very unfun way.

[ocean frost]

I didn't need much sulfur from memory

[buoyant veldt]

A weapons factory doesn't need a ton of supplies if you leave it running for long enough.

[wind marsh]

i plan to once i finish exploring a good amount, i just want to have some sort of danger when im finding all of the collectibles

[ocean frost]

I used mine mostly for nitro fuel and enrichment

[strong fiber]

I finished my coal power plant it makes 825 mw

[ocean frost]

Congratulations

[wicked nacelle]

syphoning off some sulfur for ammo is fine -- once you fill up DD's it's essentially zero. There's no reason to dedicate a sulfur deposit for ammo vs just using what you bring in already for turbofuel

[buoyant veldt]

The radiation provides that danger for me still.

[ocean frost]

Don't eat it

[wind marsh]

eat it

[ocean frost]

I did that once

[wind marsh]

how's the flavor?

[soft marsh]

Trying to recreate my aluminium blueprint is not proving easy. I think I got lucky with the excess water last time

[ocean frost]

Green

[wind marsh]

alright, ill siphon the overflow from my turbo factory for weapons. at least then ill be able to figure out some sort of design to make the power plant look nice while im at it

[ocean frost]

I just piped it back into itself and it worked for me

[buoyant veldt]

If you have an alt recipe such as pure ingots, wet concrete, you can cut out the excess water entirely and sink the ingots.

[soft marsh]

thats what I did last time

its not working this time, freezes the system

and I lost my old blueprint thanks to a system reset

[ocean frost]

Show is a picture In math and meta

[soft marsh]

I think its less of a math problem and more of a water flow problem

[tacit trellis]

So is the earth

[ocean frost]

I placed them next to each so the output was next to the output

[soft marsh]

In my old blueprint it was like that. Now they're in seperate places.

[ocean frost]

Build the factory under the map to keep nature pure

[buoyant veldt]

As in you get too much water?

[ocean frost]

Might be why

[soft marsh]

Yeah I think I have too much water being piped in so when the excess water tries to get back in there's no space

So my last step I think I'm going to try is to charge the pipe, then reduce the input so the excess fills it

[buoyant veldt]

Do you have either wet concrete or any pure (material) alt recipes?

[soft marsh]

I do but it hasn't been able to keep up

[buoyant veldt]

So it lags or it freezes? Because those are very different problems.

[soft marsh]

Freezes. The water ends up with nowhere to go so the machines fill up and cant continue

[buoyant veldt]

Yeah turn the excess water into something else such as wet concrete and then sink it.

[ocean frost]

How far apart did you build them