satisfactory

[quick hound]

I FUCKING DID IT!!!

ITS FINALLY WORKI

what did I do wrong?

[dense violet]

way to jinx yourself

[dense violet]

were you mixing fresh and waste water?

[whole drum]

Work while tired

[quick hound]

I FORGOT THE CEMENT FUUUUUUUUUUUU

THE NEAREST LIMESTONE NODE IS 2K METERS AWAY 😭

[quick hound]

I BLAME YOU

[dense violet]

why do you need cement?

[quick hound]

plutonium fuel rods

[dense violet]

ah thought it was for the aluminium

[quick hound]

GOD DAMN IT I FORGOT THE PORTABLE MINERS

[remote pasture]

See this is what happens when you not thinking straight. You need sleep

[quick hound]

ILL SLEEP WHEN ITS FUCKING DOME

ISGGTTT. G

[remote pasture]

Yeah u got a problem.

[whole drum]

That's charitable--making it sound like there's only one.

[quick hound]

ETWKJN IEFG WJNI GTWJK GN

FUCK I NEED TO GRAV MORE ENCASED STEEL BEAMS

[quick hound]

IM FINALLY ON MY WAY TO GET THIS POS UP AND RUNNING

I stood at the miner for a solid minute wondering why it wasn’t working and realized I forgot about bringing power to it

I BUILT THE CONVEYER AND COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUTT DRILLS NEED POWER FUCK

[quick hound]

I forgot it needs constructors to turn the limestone into concrete

ITS ALIVE! ITS ALIVE MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHKOMSOSKKMk

ITS WORKING

[whole drum]

Good, now go to bed and dream about it producing.

[quick hound]

I tried standing up but my legs feel like jelly

[whole drum]

Your closely monitored dreams are part of your evaluation as a FICSIT employee.

[quick hound]

the cold floor feels so nice right now

[whole drum]

Bro would make it in Japan's work culture

[little shale]

How do I switch fuel for my jet pack?

[whole drum]

Remove the fuel you don't want to use from your inventory

[wind marsh]

how do yall have your tracks decline / incline? im using frame foundations under them and need to go pretty far down

[little shale]

So I dump my solid biofuel?

[ocean frost]

Use normal foundation and replace them with frame

[ocean frost]

There is a little cog with preferred fuel type it's a little hidden on the jetpack

[wind marsh]

how can i tilt them to go down though? large height difference in the way so far

[ocean frost]

Use the ramp foundation 2m

There is the zoop option

[remote orbit]

Is the dimensional depot worth the research? The wiki says it can only hold 5 stacks if items at a time?

[dense violet]

the kinda emulate a soft creative mode
as soon as you automate an item you can essentially have all you need in your back pack

you can ignore most travel infrastructure to move lots of items to build things

I personally don't like them but many do

[whole drum]

It acts as a separate inventory that can be remote fed by your automated machines. For example, if you produce 120 iron plates/m and have a DD with sufficient upload speed upgrade, it will load that many into this inventory that you can access from anywhere. It basically makes building stuff way easier by not having to run back and forth to a storage area or randomly located production bases.

And once you get the upgrade that allows you to upload from your inventory, it allows you to free a lot of your own inventory up by not having to carry it around since it can just sit in the remote inventory.

[brazen coral]

Found the iron pipe recipe, would skip a whole step if so and that'd be great. Trying to find at least one of the alternate recipes for steel beams.

[dense violet]

Eh, coal is everywhere, iron pipe just chews through iron

[brazen coral]

Well I mean yeah but it's one less resource to deal with is what I'm saying

Just streamline iron

[whole drum]

Yeah, you sacrifice material efficiency for convenience

[brazen coral]

Or even divert it to something else

[jolly kindle]

dimensional depot is amazing, I rush to complete it asap. Cant go without it now.

[brazen coral]

At the moment I'm actually only limited by the belt speed which is 480 per minute

Which still replenishes pretty quickly

Trying to get a train set up though

[reef basin]

You're gonna deal with steel anyway

[whole drum]

Yeah, Cobalt is a little more of purist about that, which is completely fine. The game really has room for many playstyles and preferences.

Iron Pipes are pretty convenient for automating Nobelisks

You can use an impure coal/sulfur for the powder and any kind of iron node

[shy mulch]

It's probably the best feature in the game for pure convenience. First thing I go for now

[brazen coral]

Right now I have access to turbo fuel so I'm trying to get a compacted coal line going

Actually, is it even worth it to do that or do I just wait until another better fuel comes along?

[whole drum]

Pure preference

Rocket Fuel is more efficient for generating more power

But comes later

A bit more expensive too

[brazen coral]

Yeah, I don't have access to empty liquid fuel containers yet

So it's not even possible to research unless I would happen to find it in one of the salvage spots

I did get access to radio towers so it's easier to hunt them down now

[remote orbit]

If i had fuel packaging unlocked id just have an oil refinery piping all the products of oil processing into it, but I currently haven't got that unlocked and im already feeling pretty overwhelmed with having oil processing, petrol power and train tech unlocked after grinding phase 2 out 😅 would it be worth having my oil refinery output anything that needs oil to be produced being piped into trains and brought back to my base for further processing later in life or nah?

[whole drum]

That's going to heavily depend on your setup and goals

[solid grail]

I wouldn’t ship raw oil stuff back to your main base, especially if you’re already feeling overwhelmed.

[whole drum]

He meant shipping the products from oil

Plenty of people do this

[solid grail]

ohh

[shy mulch]

There's no objectively 'best' way to do things. Most setups have a balance, with simplicity and ease of build on one side, and material efficiency on the other side. Everyone has a different idea of where on that scale they feel comfortable, and even that often changes as you progress through the game. So design the way that works for your needs

[whole drum]

Very well said

[solid grail]

Time for a steel factory.

[odd fox]

yes

it is incredible

[rigid glen]

game changer

[odd fox]

100 percent , automate putting everything inside and you can free up your inventory and build without having to go to collect basic materials.

[solid grail]

What recipe should i use for steel beams and steel pipes?

[odd fox]

i just use the normal steel beam recipe as they arent used a whole lot

but for pipes I use the 20 iron one

just for convenience, it does chew through alot of iron though

[frail sleet]

I bypass steel beams as much as possible via iron pipe and encased industrial pipe. Few things need the beams themselves.

[silk ocean]

What was the ping.. I slept xD

[rigid glen]

Iron Pipes is nice, it lets your steel ingot inventory to go all towards beams

[solid grail]

Hmm alright thanks.

[odd fox]

Yep

[reef basin]

I mean you can just make ingots for pipes as well

[rigid glen]

Sure, but not making them is better to me 🙂

[odd fox]

True

Ive been hunting for somersloops and 2 of them ive found cant be picked up

[silk ocean]

Use satisfactorytools.com

[rigid glen]

How do you mean? Can you see them and not grab them?

[odd fox]

Yea

[whole drum]

How strange. Have you tried save/restart and try again?

[odd fox]

Yea

[sterile blade]

Please always remember that that the game has zero bugs

[odd fox]

its only been a issue for 2 somersloops in the 2 hours or so ive been looking

[whole drum]

I've never encountered that. I wonder what causing it

[sterile blade]

Are you sure they weren't "blocked" by vegetation?
In some cases, they might look like they're accessible, but actually need some de-bushing with the Chainsaw

[odd fox]

I tried throwing a Nuke nobelisk at the area

To clear anything around it

[sterile blade]

Yeah, that should do it...

[odd fox]

I dont carry any others

[rigid glen]

lol

I love that I'm 51 and people still surprise me

[odd fox]

I just kill things by flying up dropping one on their heads and detonating it, so its convenient.

[solid grail]

If it works it work.

[odd fox]

Got them feeding into my dimensional depot so i dont run out 👍

[solid grail]

Nice 😂

Still need to unlock it

[simple echo]

Can I overclock the somerslooped buildings to further multiply production or it doesn’t make much difference?

[odd fox]

Its really good, mines almost fully upgraded, got all the essentials and jetpack fuel

[solid grail]

Oh that was easy, i got it.

[odd fox]

if you have enough materials feeding into the machine to overclock with powershards and you need more production its worth it

[simple echo]

I wanna squeeze as many power shards as possible out of slugs

[odd fox]

Fair, i had like 120 then i started using them everywhere now ive only got 30

Hoping that when i complete phase 4 i can unlock synthetic ones.

[gentle wharf]

Where do we reports bugs?

[simple echo]

It’s super super late game

[odd fox]

Isnt phase 4 the final one?

[simple echo]

Phase 5 is

[sterile blade]

That's why it's a "challenge". I like to compare it to building clockwork: precise work, that pays off as you see all the components ticking in perfect harmony
BTW, there's content on a few different takes on "single belt sushi" playthroughs on YT 😉

[odd fox]

Phase 4s taken me almost 40 hours now

[simple echo]

You unlock ||matter conversion and shit||

[little shale]

Uranium nodes exist right? Been skipping all the ore scttered around

[simple echo]

Well, strap in for a ride

[odd fox]

Yep

[simple echo]

Yes, but there isn’t many of them

[odd fox]

Its not just building towards it though, ive also been doing random stuff like making a factory cart arena and a hypertube station

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[gentle wharf]

Ty!

[sterile blade]

At the site linked in #welcome and in the game's main menu

[gentle wharf]

And how do you post a bug?

[odd fox]

New post button in the top area.

[gentle wharf]

Nvm found it

[gentle wharf]

Thx I'm hella tired TvT

[steel kelp]

You can very easily get them once you complete phase 4 lol idrk what you’re talking about theyre super easy to automate

[steel kelp]

Phase 5 is meant to take you a while i would just take your time with it

[odd fox]

Alright, ive got everything but pressure conversion cubes for the nuclear pasta for phase 4, so once ive done that im gonna slow it down a little

[gentle wharf]

Oh I think I found out why I fell off the map

[odd fox]

?

[whole drum]

Lack of ground beneath you?

[odd fox]

You might be onto something

[gentle wharf]

There like a section where I just fall into the water but the swim animation doesn't happen

[gentle wharf]

Would be possible since no groun is seen when I fall

[sterile blade]

Water is still a bit treacherous, it seems...

[gentle wharf]

I could show y'all if there a vc I can sharescreen in

[whole drum]

Yeah, there's an area on the sw border of the dune desert area where it shows water/geysers on the map, but when you go there you can't see any water--but can still place a couple extractors

[odd fox]

always have jetpack equipped

[gentle wharf]

no vc nvm<

[gentle wharf]

I do.

[whole drum]

Most of it is ultra shallow water tho

[gentle wharf]

#streams-and-videos message

When it first happened

[steel kelp]

Yeh, make a few extra/min than you need for the pasta would be my advice

[odd fox]

Is it needed in the future?

[steel kelp]

You will wanna make more nuclear pasta in the future

Like 5-10 a min

[bold heron]

sometimes when there is a good game like satisfactory i wish steam had a option to make donations, or pay more than the standart price.

[odd fox]

5-10!!!!

ill overclock with some power slugs and use a somersloop

[steel kelp]

Yea i think 5 is sufficient

10 if you wanna make use of an endgame tech

[odd fox]

i have 3 fused modular frames per minute to work with

from some earlier floors in my tower factory

half are being used for thermal propulsion atm

[sterile blade]

Do you need a recipient to buy it as a gift? Can't just "buy more"?

[odd fox]

so if i use 2,5 i can get 5 per minute

[unique quest]

What can i do to stop those hatcher firefly things from spawning? does placing a machine over their spawn point prevent them from coming back?

[steel kelp]

Like 2 per min will be good enough for phase 5 parts, but you might want more for an endgame part

[bold heron]

destroy the hive

also sneaking helps to approach hive whitout spawning

[unique quest]

i did and i when i closed the game and came back they were there again, they're very close to my base so its a nuisance

[odd fox]

Throw a nobelisk at it or just whack it a bunch

[bold heron]

enemys respawn once u away for a while and there is no running machine nearby

[unique quest]

i know how to kill it, i want to know if theres any way to prevent it from respawning

[odd fox]

I learnt that the long way, I used to think the spiders in the pink forest biome spawned based on light levels from like cover

So i went and nuked every single tree in the entire biome

and they kept spawning

[bold heron]

set up a miner feeding into a awesome sink as the most basic perma running setup should stop them from respawning.

if there is a machine nearby they should not respawn.

[silk ocean]

How's all the new console players doing. Are you having fun? The answer btw is "yes" or FICSIT will have you in the office just say yay!

[odd fox]

Ill have it at 2 until i finish phase 4

[bold heron]

there is contracted fun fun fun.

[odd fox]

then update to 5 once ive got everything i need for the space elevator

[bold heron]

now whit steam deck support i need to replay the game.

[sterile blade]

A biomass burner with 1 fuel inside (and zero power draw) or a Constructor put on standby should do the job too

[silk ocean]

You can play this on the Steam Deck? xD Many questions, mostly.. why xD

[sterile blade]

I don't find "why" to be a very meaningful question when it comes to playing games...
Like: why do you build a factory for fun?

[merry granite]

Does the game notify you when power storage starts being used I.E power production is offline or unsuitable?

[silk ocean]

aka... Haneda

[sterile blade]

No. It warns only when the power storages are low on battery (<30 minutes of calculated battery runtime remaining)

[odd fox]

Would it run on the steam deck later into the game?

[merry granite]

Okay, thanks

[silk ocean]

Now where is that 150W capable power outlet 😈

[bold heron]

u can.
cant tell anything about performance yet.
for a start it runs smooth.
why mainly couse im on the go for like 4-6 days a week staying in hotels and its an easy way to play mobile.
i tryed laptop but on the train its bad and most hotels have really tiny desks so playing longer sessions is not that much fun.
on the other hand the deck dont needs much space and its awesome for these locations.
same for work (train driver)
if im stuck for 1-x hours for what ever reason pull out the deck have some fun while waiting.

[silk ocean]

Sounds like you just need a better laptop

[sterile blade]

We can add a lot of words, but at the end of the day: we play because it's fun; what we play on, just depends on our own circumstances

[silk ocean]

This is like a sob story, my laptop sux, sobbing, I got a switch xD

The cool kids just get a gaming laptop out

[sterile blade]

This is starting to sound like ragebait

[silk ocean]

Put all those stickers on it

I am far too old for ragebait xD

[bold heron]

while i want a better laptop, its not a performance problem but more of a space problem.
mainly small desks in hotels.
can i game on them, yes.
but its somewhat of a pain to sit there for longer time.

[silk ocean]

You can always make space for a gaming rig

Just imagine

[bold heron]

most desks i had in hotel rooms have size like 1x0,5 meters

[silk ocean]

You're on the subway... you pull out a Switch.. ewww... you pull out a SICK gaming rig... totally out there bro... Everyone on the platform is in awe

[steel kelp]

This will be fine - you need 1k pasta for phase 5 tho just so you’re aware

[leaden turret]

has a peek and is not surprised

[odd fox]

at 5pm thats only a few hours

[sterile blade]

Also, you have to deliver it in 10 minutes, so...

[steel kelp]

Yeh you will have plenty of things to do whilst you wait for it lol

Just put it in a bin before your depot so you can build up a good supply

[silk ocean]

You get all the girls™ (or guys) when you pull out a sick rig on the subway... totally legit bro

[brazen coral]

Was able to pipe together 8 fuel generators with four refineries making their fuel on overclock, got a tremendous power boost

[silk ocean]

Nobody gets laid with a Switch xD

[brazen coral]

I think after that I can fully undo all the coal generators at this point

[sterile blade]

Why invest time into dismantling them?

[fluid sapphire]

precious coal

[brazen coral]

As much as I like having things just sit there... I'm pretty sure almost all eight of them have replaced the whole network so far. I just need to get the coal out of there to either redirect into steel or more black powder, got to research the rifle and make some ammunition

And eventually some smokeless powder

[fluid sapphire]

you dont really need a large amount of black powder

[normal arch]

Wdym? I am using my coal for my 60 noblisk per minute factory

[brazen coral]

I think at most I'd keep one bin of everything, or at least necessary stuff, maybe like a regular storage crate of ammunition

[fluid sapphire]

you could easily produce 1 nobelisk per minute and that would be enough to feed you for the whole game

60 is wild

[brazen coral]

60 per minute sounds wild xD

I don't even think you can use them that fast

[fluid sapphire]

nop

[normal arch]

Ik, i just made it bc it was cheap and why not? My original plan was 200 noblisk per minute

[fluid sapphire]

precious sulfur

[normal arch]

I am barely even using the normal sulfer node

I should make a explosive rebar factory...

[brazen coral]

I only picked up a pure sulfur node because I thought I need it eventually

Actually it was the closest sulfur I could find so it kind of worked out

[fluid sapphire]

depending on location there may be better uses for the sulfur

[normal arch]

Maybe... like making a noblisk factory to get to the doggo cave through extermination.

[brazen coral]

What is the pulse nobelisk for?

[normal arch]

Does not hurt doggos

[fluid sapphire]

it propels the player

and mobs

[normal arch]

Also destroys obsticles

[odd fox]

Mine are all off and just sitting there(the coals being used somewhere else)

[fluid sapphire]

so do normal nobelisks

[brazen coral]

Okay so it does have usage other than explosion

[normal arch]

Idk, a bit larger splash radius?

At least it seems like it

My doggos sometimes give me pulse noblisks... i also get nukes from them

[brazen coral]

I'll try and set up another eight generators but I can't do it right now. Need to sleep... And also ran out of motors to build more 😂

At least this time I had the Mark II pipes 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

you mean to say you dont have dozens of containers at the end of your motor production? blasphemy

[brazen coral]

No unfortunately not. I had to do some rearranging of the factory to get it more compartmentalized so it's kind of been all over the place.

[odd fox]

I never once used fuel generators

i dont even know how they work yet, i just skipped them and went to nuclear from coal

[brazen coral]

I only just switched cuz it seems easier than coal, don't have to run as many lines. Just need a bunch of copper

[fluid sapphire]

not much to it, you feed them fuel and they generate power

[sterile blade]

Note: the force from Pulse nobelisks' explosions stack, which makes them... interesting for travel with a jetpack (or even just exploding them behind you while flying)

[odd fox]

I love flying with pulse nobelisks and the green fuel(bio fuel i think its called), you go so fast and far

[brazen coral]

Well thank you for that very useful information, I shall remember that when I don't have a cannon nearby

The cannons are pretty fun though. Just always have to adjust where you want to go and glide from there

[sterile blade]

I love to start flying from a slide-jump and then accelerate with nobelisks until I fly too fast to make them explode close enough to me to affect me 😆

[odd fox]

I start with a conveyer belt and slide off it which gives you a speed boost when you start flying then using nobelisks to accelerate

[sterile blade]

It's kinda hilarious to picture, this pioneer chucking explosives in front of them, just to have them explode behind them as they zoom by 🤦‍♂️ 😆

[odd fox]

Yea love to see it from like a freecam view

[fluid sapphire]

thats way too much effort for a tiny speed gain fr fr

[sterile blade]

You seem to have missed the amount of fun this provides

[odd fox]

Its super fun and if your too lazy atleast get a running jump off a small conveyer you place, depending on level you can 4x your speed until your fuel runs out

[sterile blade]

Ofc, placing the same amount of nobelisks in one place and exploding them at once is faster and more effective, but...
Come on...

[fluid sapphire]

i usually just find the nearest train and hop on ehehhh

[sterile blade]

I have a blueprint fora hypertube cannon and biomass burners (preloaded with fuel)... Still, not as fun as pulse-chucking xD

[odd fox]

Ive been building each cannon individually and never once thought about making a blueprint

[odd fox]

Slow

[fluid sapphire]

yes, i use the travel time on the wiki/production planner

[sterile blade]

I've been building cannons from before blueprints were a thing 👴

[hard ivy]

You know the movement in the game is great when 120 km/h is considered slow XD

[odd fox]

I origionally built a highway around my entire world 🤮 when i first started playing and used conveyers as a barrier cause it was too expensive for walls

Then later on i upgraded it with walls and now instead of my tractor driving along its just filled with conveyers transporting stuff around the whole world

(drones and trains are too much work so i just build conveyers thousands of meters)

[sterile blade]

Perfect planning. All as expected 😆

[odd fox]

Of course.

[fluid sapphire]

this is prime i had to dig a trench but was too lazy to use industrial equipment so i decided to use a trowel energy

[odd fox]

For awhile instead of building stuff in the place the materials were I just looped it all back to a single factory

And now i have a 500meter tall tower

producing almost everything in the game

[fluid sapphire]

my navigationally challenged brain could never

sounds like it could be cramped

[odd fox]

its a 10x9 tile floor

but theres like 40 floors

[fluid sapphire]

sheesh, thats very small

[odd fox]

Well i started it when i was making stuff for tier 2 of the space elevator

I didnt need much space

So i just build stuff over multiple floors and label it in the elevator

which takes like 2 minutes to actually get to the top and i need to transition cause for some reason theres a max elevator height you can go to

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, imagine my disappointment when i couldnt make a 1km tall elevator

like just let me do it

[odd fox]

It was devestating

[scenic mirage]

theres a trick you can do to get around it

[lucid storm]

any1 knows why when i tru to nodge roof downwards it nudges diagonally?

[scenic mirage]

because its basically a foundation rotated, nudging moves it with the rotation

[odd fox]

?

[small pilot]

What's the best way to avoid the leaps of elite stingers? Jumping any direction even with jetpack doesn't seem to work

[fluid sapphire]

they dont track movement, if you jump after they do, they will miss with their jump

[small pilot]

Was thinking of trying to slide under or something

[scenic mirage]

i think you can place on top of the top part of the elevator, gimme a sec ill find exactly what you do

[median geyser]

#screenshots message Tfw you did your math wrong and accidentally double your power grid instead of making a 25% addition to it

[fluid sapphire]

thats just squigglies

[scenic mirage]

ADA would be proud, but ADA would never make that mistake.

[median geyser]

😂 Its the bars from the power pole readout. That gray line is my capacity/production line

[scenic mirage]

how much power you at rn

[fluid sapphire]

i know what it is, its just frustrating that its cropped like that

[median geyser]

approx 14gw. Fluctuates from 13.75 to 14.5 depending on geyser surges. Most of it is in fuel and coal though, so at least 13GW constant

Still adding more to my grid too. I made way more turbo fuel than I meant to, I was just working with production ratios and now I have too much 😂

[scenic mirage]

ay nice

[fluid sapphire]

no such thing as too much power

[scenic mirage]

phase 3 or 4?

[median geyser]

Too much turbo fuel. Never enough power, hence expanding my setup beyond planned 😂

[median geyser]

Working on Phase 4, but my last step is particle enrichment. I could theoretically skip this and go straight to nuclear, but I dont trust myself not to nuke my whole base into oblivion, so I want this stable grid done first while I tinker

[scenic mirage]

i have 98 GW rn but i just hit phase 5 and needa at least 5x that

i havent touched nuclear yet

[fluid sapphire]

well, maybe you need that, but thats definitely not absolutely necessary for phase 5 for the average player

[median geyser]

I have around another 300/min turbo fuel to hook up to these generators, and then I need to backtrack and do my basic factories over

[scenic mirage]

i mean yeah itd just be a fun challenge

[median geyser]

Ive realised I kinda did things "wrong" during my first playthrough (this is still that playthrough), where I kind of just made 1 of every new thing, chained them all together to make production lines, and then progressed to new stuff as soon as I unlocked it. So instead of automating and making a whole factory for computers or something, Id just make 50 and then unlock the next thing

Which has turned my started base into a squiggly mess of belts, pipes, and mysteries 😂

And resulted in me making like 2/minute of everything except the most basic materials, because my low level production lines are just feeding straight into my mid/high grade machines

[odd fox]

gw?!?!?!?

[median geyser]

#screenshots message

Gigawatts

[odd fox]

what win the world do you need that much power for

for only 3.5gw of usage

[median geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Awe it didnt embed

Lame

[median geyser]

Because I havent really set up any major production yet, just been floating by on vibes and overnight afk to backstock for me and progress

[odd fox]

fair

[median geyser]

Its about to get a lot bigger too, because thats only like 30% of the fuel I plan to hook up to genes. I ran out of rubber

Waiting for more to make more generators

[odd fox]

my batteries depleted a bit ago and instead of doing all the work of building another nuclear power plant, i just ran around building geothermal ones on gysers

how much power does one fuel generator produce with turbofuel?

[median geyser]

Its the same no matter what, 250MW base, plus overclocking. Different fuels just have different usage rates

[odd fox]

you should switch to nuclear

2500mw per

[median geyser]

Fully overclocked to 250%, im using 18.75 fuel/min and making 625MW per gene

[odd fox]

thats actually quite good

[median geyser]

There's 2 better fuel options too, that I havent expanded into yet, so it gets even more efficient

[odd fox]

Rocketfuel?

[median geyser]

Im using turbo fuel. Could refine it into rocket fuel, and then into an even better 4th kind. Forget the name, havent unlocked yet

[fluid sapphire]

producing ionized fuel is energy negative

[odd fox]

energy negative?

[median geyser]

Oh really? interesting

[grizzled orchid]

It takes more energy to make than it produces

[median geyser]

Right, well then I could at least go 1 step further to improve it before going nuclear

[fluid sapphire]

you spend more energy creating it than you get out in total, its still good for jetpack, and possibly drones

[odd fox]

i use rocket fuel at the moment for jetback, when do you unlock ionized?

[median geyser]

But the only reason I havent yet is just because there's so much other stuff IVe skipped out on

[odd fox]

Thanks

[median geyser]

next step of sulfur tree

[odd fox]

finally started producing pressure conversion cubes which i can make nuclear pasta with

and finish phase 4!

[merry granite]

Theres a constantly playing somewhat high pitched machinery sound playing wherever i go. Is there a way to fix this?

[odd fox]

restart your games probably the best bet

If youve already tried it go back to a older autosave and see if it goes away

[median geyser]

😂 I just crashed due to max objects. Fucking how? Im not even close to mega-factory territory??

[merry granite]

will try that, thanks

[fluid sapphire]

dont trust the error message, i have had that error before too

[odd fox]

Really?

[scenic mirage]

i had that crash when i was building my train network

[fluid sapphire]

i got it when i was building a lot of conveyor belts in a small area

[odd fox]

Thanks for the elevator video

Now ive gotta demolish my second and third elevators and make one large elevator

[scenic mirage]

😎 ofc

the elevator kinda slow? i feel like

[odd fox]

If hypertubes didnt use so much space

id use them instead

I used them up until elevators were added

[scenic mirage]

hypertubes take up so little space tho

you can just have a single hyper tube going straight up and junctions out onto the factory floor

[odd fox]

i never thought abou that...

i had individual tubes for each floor

[scenic mirage]

junctions are also new

[odd fox]

i mean it helped cause it allowed me to keep track and label each of the floors

[odd fox]

Oh that makes sense

why my nuclear pasta using 5gw

[scenic mirage]

particle accelerators

[odd fox]

its using 10gw

[scenic mirage]

my nuclear pasta uses 21 Gw

[odd fox]

my whole factory in total uses like 12

and this one particle accelerator uses 10

[scenic mirage]

im making 5/min, im bringing alum casing, rubber, HMF, copper sheets, and quickwire so all that isnt included in the 21GW

if you count all that, maybe like 22GW or 23GW

[scenic mirage]

did you sloop it or smth? mine only use 5 GW each max

[odd fox]

Yea I did

Just to speed up the process

[scenic mirage]

ye thats why lol

[odd fox]

27 minutes till my like 150 batteries run out

[wet bane]

The fact that there is no 1m concrete foundation in the blueprint designer mk1 I'm going to assume is not intended

[odd fox]

probably

[compact harbor]

Can someone explain to me how the fluids work please?

[odd fox]

?

[compact harbor]

priorities and that

[odd fox]

cant help with that, got no clue myself

what are you trying to do?

[compact harbor]

Aluminium

hold up i can get a screenshot...

welp

that doent want to work

[odd fox]

is the water building up

[low tartan]

at what point do you unlock better storage than the storage containers?

[odd fox]

and stopping your machines?

[compact harbor]

No the screenshot doesnt want to work

I havent even turned it on yet...

[odd fox]

oh?

So whats not working?

[odd fox]

You unlock industrial storage on tier 4

In the hub

[compact harbor]

Probably my entire base lol

[odd fox]

Is there a problem with the aluminum?

[scenic mirage]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[low tartan]

ah yes, but that's basically just 2 storage containers joined together right? Isnt there some sort of uber storage thing you eventually unlock?

[odd fox]

Eventually you get a dimensional depot

[fluid sapphire]

48 slots not enough for you?

[median geyser]

there's the dimensional depot, but thats not quite the same

[odd fox]

Which can store items in a pocket dimension

[low tartan]

ah right ok

[odd fox]

Place 2 industrial storage

[compact harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/save-saved-image-saving-file-gif-3667455389443010223

[grizzled orchid]

Well you can chain the storage containers together as well if needed

[fluid sapphire]

you just end up making stuff like this

#screenshots message

[low tartan]

yea, fair enough!

[ocean frost]

You can store them in trains too

Trucks are a favorite of mine

Dogos too

Crate of shame too

Or box of shame

[fluid sapphire]

trains as storage kinda silly fr

[low tartan]

im wonderign how many iron plates and rods i need to keep on hand generally for buildings, vs using to build other things.

like how many containers worth of each would you keep?

[fluid sapphire]

what other things

[scenic mirage]

o.o 1350 crude oil can make 5000 rocket fuel/min, thats 300Gw

needs 2400 sulfur/min tho

[fluid sapphire]

uh, thats more than 300GW

[low tartan]

So I'm building a factory on 3 x iron ore nodes. I am trying to figure out, of all the plates and rods I create, how much should i just store as rods and plates (so that I can have it when i need to build walls / foundations etc), vs how much should I send furhter into the production cycle to make reinforced plates, modular frames etc.

[scenic mirage]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/power/index/powerOutput/300000/powerShards/10000/generator/Build_GeneratorFuel_C/fuel/Desc_RocketFuel_C

[unique quest]

i have a whole separate factory with its own 2 iron ore nodes just for reinforced plates and motors.

that was meant to be a reply to the crouchy

you definitely need a large supply of all the basic resources (plates, rods, concrete, wires etc etc) so each of those gets its own factory

[scenic mirage]

1440 power shards hmm how tf

[fluid sapphire]

ahh, yeah OK that checks out, i have mine built in 2 halves

[low tartan]

yea, what do you deem large supply though? I have about 4 containers full of iron plates and 4 containers of iron rods. I'm only on phase 2 of the space elevator, I'm thinking this is enough of the basics for now and anything in excess of these 4 containers should go into making parts

[unique quest]

if those 4 containers still get a steady stream then yeah that should be enough for now

[grizzled orchid]

I'd go hunt mercer spheres and mam research to get through dimensional depot unlocked as early as possible , after that like one storage container/ dimensional depot split from the mainline per item tends to be fine for keeping basic stocked

[median geyser]

When you think of quantities in Satisfactory, don't think in units, think in units per minute

[fluid sapphire]

you should be thinking in terms of ongoing production, not what you have stored, the storage is just a buffer - what happens when you run out?

[low tartan]

sorry, to clarify

i meant 4 containers that are constantly being filled

[fluid sapphire]

at what rate, thats the real Q

[median geyser]

So it doesnt matter if you have 1000 containers, but only 2/minute being made, you will burn through those 1000 containers very, very quickly

[low tartan]

let me check that

[fluid sapphire]

you're crazy, thats 48 000 stacks, you severely underestimate just how many containers that is

[median geyser]

I do not, and yes I am crazy

[unique quest]

also if you can, try to look for pure nodes.
that doubles the resources being mined and if you build a factory to match that it doubles your rate

[low tartan]

im making 60 rods and 40 plates per minute

currently

(basically the max output of 1x mk2 miner on 1 node)

[median geyser]

You can insert any arbitrary number into my reply, and it works. X containers are irrelevant with low supply, and will empty very, very, VERY quickly relative to the time it took to fill them, leaving you at a loss

[fluid sapphire]

you wont be emptying those containers if they are not full in the first place

[novel heath]

is there a list of placeable water spots in the swamp

[median geyser]

That makes the entire thing pointless since my reply was based on the context of him having some number of full containers 🤷

[dense violet]

no, just see where you can put them

[median geyser]

This is sufficient early game, but you'll eventually turn to making pretty big numbers of these, often dedicating a small/medium factory to each resource

[low tartan]

is there an easy way to relocate full storage containers in the game?

[median geyser]

Place new crate, pull a belt from one to the other, let it auto-fill

[low tartan]

yea, so just a belt

wish there was a container truck or something

[median geyser]

A forklift would be a funny addition

a niche little vehicle like the factory cart, but slower and able to pick up and move storage contrainer/ISCs

[unique quest]

how much water does a coal generator need

[low tartan]

im thinking more of a lorry with a flat bed, like the way real shipping containers are moved via road. That could be automated. Would be a more realistic way of moving things around rather than building belts everywhere

[median geyser]

[terse drift]

i think you could select the mass dismantle thing and highlight what you want to dismantle and then go to where you want to move it, then dismantle it.

[median geyser]

Self-mapped vehicles wouldnt be worth the hassle and would be almost instantly overtaken by trains

[low tartan]

when do you unlock trains?

[scenic mirage]

dismount crates are put right next to you so that should work, but then you gotta run with the dismantle screen open

[low tartan]

would work for short distance moves but probably not long distance moves

[terse drift]

could run a belt or something

[terse drift]

why would it not work for longer moves?

you can go as far away as you want

[nova oriole]

Guys could someone tell me the difference between purity of minerals? I haven't got the hang of it yet

[scenic mirage]

thats just how much you get per minute with the miners

[nova oriole]

So on a pure node let's say I get 60 items a minute, an MK2 drill would get 120?

[median geyser]

Is there a bp maker mk3?

[hearty kiln]

welp i just crashed

[nova oriole]

What about the nodes that don't say have any purity on their name, because I've seen a couple

Like one that just says "coal"

[median geyser]

If they are rocks just sticking out of the ground/wall, then you can gather from it by hand and it will disappear after a bit

[nova oriole]

No I'm talking about actual resource nodes that have no purity in the name

I've seen one that said just coal and I could put a drill on it but it didn't have any grade of purity

[median geyser]

I would assume those are "standard" purity?

If they arent notably pure or impure, they just are

[nova oriole]

Like "normal"?

[median geyser]

yeah

[nova oriole]

Okay thanks

[dapper hollow]

Question. Has anyone here tried to make a fully optimised one hundred thirty per monitor ballistic warp drive factory?

[glad horizon]

no

[fluid sapphire]

are there even enough resources on the map to do that

sftools gives no result even with all recipes selected

[scenic mirage]

i only have mk5 conveyor rn is there any way to get all the output from a mk3 pure node

[solemn glacier]

yes

[zenith pecan]

Not as of yet, I've been too busy, I've barely played, I only just got around to building the wet concrete facility I'd been procrastinating for months.

[solemn glacier]

im pretty sure you can only oc to ~150% tho

[scenic mirage]

but then i dont get the full output from a mk3 pure node lol

[solemn glacier]

oh

ok

[odd fox]

i have the same issue

producing 1200 or something per minute

and my sad conveyer can only move 780

[scenic mirage]

i can get mk6 soon tho, i could just do it rn i think if i can get stuff from the awesome shop

[bitter pine]

how to get the cupon and buy items from shop?

[odd fox]

Im close

[mossy moon]

you put items into the sink

[odd fox]

not super close yet

[bitter pine]

ok, but which items

[odd fox]

Build the special item called the awesome sink and put stuff in where you can print stuff. any items work

[mossy moon]

any thing. items you dont need

[bitter pine]

ok

[odd fox]

but the harder they are to make the more points you get

[bitter pine]

i build it

[mossy moon]

well not everyhting can be sunk. some colectibles cant be sunk

[bitter pine]

#screenshots message

[odd fox]

true but most manufactured stuff can

[mossy moon]

the screen shot has the sink menu open.he just hasnt fed it anything

[odd fox]

yea

[bitter pine]

yes yes

[odd fox]

Just doubled my power from 11gw to 22gw

[mossy moon]

and manufactuing and processing items before sinking is more efficient for points

[bitter pine]

ok

[mossy moon]

you can just put one in your storage system and after your storage is full. the over flow can go to the sink

[bitter pine]

ok but which biome u playing?

for 4 lacks hours

i'm on grass land biome

it's boring

and i don't know how to build a clear factory 😅

[odd fox]

like a glass factory?

[bitter pine]

yes

[odd fox]

By memory its unlockable as a style from the awesomeshop

[bitter pine]

hmmm

u have any cool clear factory

?

[odd fox]

Nah

[bitter pine]

😭

[odd fox]

My factories have stuff sticking through the walls

so glass would not look good

[bitter pine]

btw i need to see any other guys factory so then i can make a cool clear pretty factory

[median geyser]

How do I customize my "custom swatch" to color my factory?

[bitter pine]

use X for colour

[scenic mirage]

mk6 unlocked 😎

[median geyser]

No like theres a custom option under the colors, but I cant find a way to change it. Pressing X again after selecting the swatch just closes the customizer entirely

[bitter pine]

btw i'm new, i told u from my experience, u can ask the experts

👍

[torpid sandal]

When you hover over the swatch in the customizer, I believe there's an edit button that appears as a bar below the swatch

[odd fox]

I just accidentally merged caterium into my iron ore lane for one of my conveyers and its gone all the way into my factory into like 10 different floors and now ive gotta individually go to each machine and pick up the caterium

[quick hound]

@whole drum I passed out

[azure reef]

can i chain multiple freight platforms to unload lets say 3 freight cars or would i need to add a station between each platform?

[torpid sandal]

you can chain both freight cars and freight platforms, in fact there's no limit to how long your trains can be (aka how many freight platforms can be activated by one train station) except for the practical limit of how quickly the locomotive or locomotives can pull them

[sterile blade]

Oh, for the sake of clarity: all my plans are still on virtual paper too ^^

[azure reef]

ah right so if i have it like:
platform-platform-platform-station
then it unloads all 3 freight cars at the same time

[torpid sandal]

yep, that's right.

[zenith pecan]

Lately I've been up to my eyeballs in laptops needing windows 11 installs because policy borked automatic updates, So yay, reimaging dozens of machines at a time ad nauseum 🤮

[nova oriole]

Guys is there any way to automatically get biomass/mycelium?

[zenith pecan]

Nope, manual farm only.

[nova oriole]

Ugh

Okay thanks

[zenith pecan]

I sort of a wish there was a mid to late game auto bio at or even slightly later than fuel just for the liquid biofuel automation and alternate to oil, but alas.

[nova oriole]

I imagined something along the lines of taking lymph/sap from trees to turn them into biomass, just to stick to the game's system

And it made sense in my head, disappointed to find out it doesn't exist

[wooden mural]

when will 1.2 come out?

[zenith pecan]

My suggestion was being able to cap the poison rocks and using the output to produce the biofuel, but they made the rocks destroyable instead.

[wooden mural]

its funny that im at 200 hrs and im still at mid game lmao

[nova oriole]

Lovely.

Can we make some sort of petition to get a way to make auto bio fuel?

It's such a good idea

[zenith pecan]

That ship sailed and I already tried, so now I just go nuts with more conventional power sources 😛

[wooden mural]

biofuel is mid anyways

once you get the turbo fuel its much better

[dense violet]

it already exists

[nova oriole]

How?

[wooden mural]

how?

[dense violet]

biological matter is put under pressure and heat for thousands of years then you automatically mine the coal nodes.

then you burn it

[wooden mural]

ingame bro wdym lmao

[dense violet]

coal is biological matter you burn

[nova oriole]

I hate you so much but that was funny

[bitter pine]

@digital holly how to use sink

it's not working

[dense violet]

power it.

[bitter pine]

did it

[digital holly]

Indeed, give it some power , set a container before it with a short belt between, and put your materials you want to get rid of in that container

[dense violet]

then hook a belt up to it with items

[bitter pine]

ok

[bitter pine]

#screenshots message

now what i can do? the print option glowing!

[sharp basin]

I can go faster with blade runners by sliding/jumping?

Shit haven’t even tried

Just slide and jump immediately?

[winter fable]

Slide cancle🗣️

[sharp basin]

So basically sprint, slide and jump just as the sliding animation starts, rince and repeat?

[winter fable]

If its like the other games yes

Just hold slide while in the air and it should connect

[stoic steeple]

You need to put enough items in there so you can get enough points to print a coupon. Each coupon takes more points than the previous one. More complex parts will give more points per item.

[bitter pine]

ok

my time now 20.00

[bitter pine]

btw when i take the uranium then why i died

nice, good evening

[stoic steeple]

Radiation damage. To avoid that, you need a hazmat suit but that's a later game unlock

It's in tier 7 in the HUB. It's available after completing phase 3.

Yeah me too!

[scenic mirage]

good luck pioneers. focus on building good architecture, really dont ignore trains

[bitter pine]

ooo

btw i'm new on the game i want the building idea like wanna to make a pretty clean factory so if anyone can give me permission to join and giving the idea i will be so appriciate!!

[sharp basin]

Just realized I can talk to chatGPT about how to organize my shit: has anybody tried?

[glad quest]

with enough berries anything is possible

[glad quest]

bro dont use ai

[stoic steeple]

I second this. I tried and AI sucks at basic math. It will also often use recipes from early access rather than the current version

This is coming from someone who uses it all the time for stuff

[glad quest]

i asked it a question 4 times and each time it got a diff answer (all were wrong and it was the same question)

i hate ai and everything it stands for ada is the only acceptable one

[ivory condor]

I absolutely would not touch this with a 100 foot pole is all I'm going to say

[stoic steeple]

I think AI has it's proper uses. I just hate AI slop

[glad quest]

it has no use its not even AI its a marketing scam

its machine learning in a n AI coat

[winter fable]

Wait berries mitigate rads?

So berries are basically radaway?

[hard ivy]

no, they just heal damage

[winter fable]

Oh

[hard ivy]

but every healing item does that

[south sinew]

AI has its uses, any question that has a wrong answer is just not one of them

[glad quest]

only time its viable is in research imo

but then again its machine learning with a search engine attached not ai

[south sinew]

those are specialised models, not "AI", yeah

specialist models for specialist purposes can be really good, like the ones that read radiological scans

[ivory condor]

AI has uses but also problems with its usage, for example it can guess within some probability the next word in a sentence, but you see when organizing a factory in Satisfactory you need better accuracy than that, aka why I would never use it, use greenys tool or some other tool with better accuracy for planning

Also AI can hallucinate along with other issues, so if you ask it a question, it might hallucinate a completely wrong answer also, so thats cool

[glad quest]

yeah these sorts of use cases r good as it helps humanity and doesnt make everyone poorer by taking jobs

[quick hound]

Chaos is like a river, forever stretching across. Embrace the river.

[glad quest]

it also never has an original idea and everything it uses was made or discovered by humans so its the biggest copyright infringer of all time

[south sinew]

taking jobs doesn't make humanity poorer; it's just that the net benefit is concentrated in just a few people, but that is really a social problem rather than a problem with AI

[glad quest]

its a problem with governments as the avg person is alot kinder and caring than rich ppl tend to be

i hope they ban ai for comercial use

[south sinew]

that's neither wise nor possible

the government simply needs to ensure a fairer distribution of the proceeds

[ivory condor]

Capitalistic systems have always had this problem also, AI is just another tool to more concentrate wealth basically as you say in a smaller group

[glad quest]

as in government monthly payments? as who will fund that? the companies tax yeah right they already do everything they can to avoid tax and maximise profit from their employees

[quick hound]

I’d say not ban it, however they would limit its uses for commercial use.

[grand iris]

Am I forgetting something or did somersloops used to be all or nothing in machines? I loaded into a save last night and noticed each one in a manufacturer adds 0.25% production.
I thought they used to only do something if you could put all 4 in at once

[quick hound]

ITS MERF OR NOTHIN

[nova igloo]

how does excited photonic matter work? do I just attach power and it's starts producting or does it need to be near SAM?

[south sinew]

you can produce it from nothing anywhere

[ivory condor]

But also its a society problem in general, why I think ideas like universal basic income, etc have been suggested-I'm going to guess this is for a future where AI and robots have taken over all jobs basically, but we havent gotten to that point

[glad quest]

yeah captalism is prob the worst invention we ever had its on par with communism lmfao

[ivory condor]

But it really makes you wonder what might eventually happen in the future, what does humanity do when all tasks and jobs have been truly taken over by machine. Makes one wonder

[south sinew]

that's definitely not true

[quick hound]

So, essentially a Skynet or IHNMAIMS?

[south sinew]

we're just in a bad phase at the moment, but we hvae been in bad phases before and we got them sorted, we will handle this one again

[sharp basin]

Seems my IA question had repercussions 🙂

[glad quest]

this would be the worst future of all time i dont want to live in cyberpunk 2077 lol

[glad quest]

hopefully

[south sinew]

a UBI-style future is kinda the opposite of CP2077

[glad quest]

well i dont want to be dependant on the government because whats stops them from doing whatever they want? if u try and say otherwise goodbye ubi

[sharp basin]

Why isn’t there more decoration in vanilla game, like, I dunno, plantable trees? Coffee Stain has said something on that topic? Ps5 player, so no mods.

[south sinew]

that's no different to today; if you live in a democracy there are existing forces, and if you don't, then well, it's no different that the government can do whatever they want to you and you can't stop them

[glad quest]

bro was about to say theres mod for this lol yh i think they are focusing on gameplay improvements first

[dapper hollow]

yes there is but with some insane alternate recipie line ups

[glad quest]

ikr its soo annoying esp the brit card they wanna introduce its not mandatory but whenever u wanna show id that isnt it its 85 quid

[mortal ginkgo]

lore-wise we are here to exploit the planet as soon as possible, not to make it pretty.

[sharp basin]

That’s a good point.

[glad quest]

ikr u can always be more efficent

[south sinew]

there are advantages and disadvantages, but if you live in the UK, then you probably have nothing to fear about the government taking away your UBI; they can't even take away benefits today when they really want to

[sharp basin]

I mean it’s what capitalism is about

[mortal ginkgo]

we are not capitalist, we are here to exploit planets with alien material and we are also fully alien-infested company

[glad quest]

well its all going to ppl who dont even have citizenship anyway lmfao

[glad quest]

its colonialism

[south sinew]

the share going to those without citizenship is very small

otherwise they would have cut it a long time ago

[sharp basin]

You sound like a character from Pluribus. You seen Pluribus? Everybody should watch Pluribus.

[glad quest]

isnt it 8b a year?

[fluid sapphire]

you sure about that? if that was the case, sftools should be able to calculate it

[mortal ginkgo]

No. All I see is someone who is chatting instead of expanding their factory. Get to work.

[sharp basin]

You killed me there bro. Sir, yes, sir.

[south sinew]

you mean, of our 1300b a year budget? so not even 1%? barely 10% of just the tax rises planned for this year? not nothing, but a long, long way from "all" or even "a significant amount"

[glad quest]

is it good?

[ivory condor]

whats worse, depending on government or depending on corporations to keep your job so you can live, two sides of the same coin..hmmm

government=corporation

[sharp basin]

Man, it’s gonna be one of the best SF shows ever at this point

And Rhea Seehorn ❤️

[glad quest]

the uk gov spends 1.3t a year? no fucking wonder we are in so much debt

[glad quest]

tbh atleast companies cant declare useless wars

[south sinew]

It's actually not that much, other countries tax and spend a lot more than us

the problem isn't how much we tax and how much we spend, it's the fact that we waste so much of it on stuff like bad military procurement, failing to tackle housing, energy, etc

[ivory condor]

Corporations could dump toxic industrial byproducts into the environment though, until finally some sane regulations were put into to place to stop that insanity

[quick hound]

TOPIC CHANGE! WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE MILESTONE??

[glad quest]

tbh they are all incompetent i saw they wanted to increase tax a while back, i do business and the first thing we were taught was that increasing tax decreases tax revenue, tho im pretty sure that was a publicity thing like make them super mad then say actually we wont do that

[ivory condor]

Because yeah not a bright idea to make the world we actually have to live in....unlivable, who would have guessed

[quick hound]

We need to stop discussing this here, move to off topic Gen.

[south sinew]

the increasing tax/decreasing revenue thing is largely wrong and made by a super-right-wing dude to push his right-wing ideology, not something actually observed in practice (at the tax levels we are actually talking about)

[silk ocean]

Not wearing equipment?

[quick hound]

ZATIE!

[silk ocean]

It is me xD

[quick hound]

HIIIIIIII

[silk ocean]

HAI!

[mortal ginkgo]

ZATIE BRO

[glad quest]

last thing but norway wanted to increase tax on rich ppl, they were going to gain around 150m a year, 82 billionairs left the country and they gov lost like 500m a year

[quick hound]

what is your favourite milestone?

[glad quest]

steel

[quick hound]

MOVE. TO. OFF. TOPIC.

[silk ocean]

BROTHERMAN

[mortal ginkgo]

LIMESTONEMAN

[quick hound]

ZATIEMAN

NETHERMAN

TOGETHER, WE ARE.. absolutely fucking dumb.

[silk ocean]

Tricky... Tier 5.. Jetpack xD

[glad quest]

guys what should i do with 720 copper ingots pm

[quick hound]

Mine is probably hypertubes and jetpacc

[ivory condor]

Don't worry if we combine our brains, we can somehow mentally function...sort of in a kind of mental collective

[quick hound]

eat them

[glad quest]

i am atm as if they stop my steel stops but i wanna stop wasting them

[quick hound]

If we added my brain, our mental state would become a lobotomite

[shell lava]

Hi guys, I just unlocked oil and stuff

[quick hound]

remember to drink the oil! :>

[mortal ginkgo]

Good. Now what you need to do is FIND MORE

[quick hound]

OH GOD HE’S AMERICAN

[ivory condor]

Are you the Lowkey from youtube?

[shell lava]

Nah, I don't do youtube

[mortal ginkgo]

If there is oil, there is more oil nearby. That's the rule of Creation

[ivory condor]

Ok had to ask, because Lowkey is a actual youtube channel

[quick hound]

Can I eat your wire lines?

[mortal ginkgo]

bro blz

BLZ BRO

[shell lava]

He is norwegian I see, on the hotbar on the MC video

[quick hound]

so you want me to chew all of your power lines like a rat?

[shell lava]

Only the excess oil tho : )

[quick hound]

it tastes like grape soda :>

[shell lava]

I'm also automating turbofuel

[quick hound]

You mean Moutain Dew: Code Red

[shell lava]

Yeah

[glad quest]

one time i made a fuel factory that used like 6k oil pm and was using the 4x recipe, i didnt like build about 1 quindecillion power plants

[mortal ginkgo]

What do you mean it is not fun to put 302349820348203840923 amount of fuel gens

[fluid sapphire]

building 600 generators with decent blueprints takes like an hour tops

[quick hound]

that time is nothing to a virgin like me

[glad quest]

i do with they made fuel consumption higher and power output higher tbh

[glad quest]

24,000 fuel / 15 isnt 600 my guy

its 1600

[ivory condor]

Indeed he is

[fluid sapphire]

little difference

a couple of hours tops

[shell lava]

I'm also norwegian

[glad quest]

true but it is mind numbing lmfao

[shell lava]

Guys what's the next thing I should do?

[quick hound]

drugs

[shell lava]

Should I unlock trains and build a mega factory?

[glad quest]

aliminium

[fluid sapphire]

there's a decent chunk of repetitive tasks that are part of the core gameplay, i dont see it as anything different than that

[glad quest]

t5 belts r needed

[glad quest]

but for some u can get like 8 constructers into a blueprint but only like 2 fuel gens in one

[shell lava]

Wdym?

[fluid sapphire]

different scale, but same kind of thing

[glad quest]

well if u want a mega factory you will need faster velts

[shrewd palm]

you'll want mk5/6 belts for any real megafactory, but for anything you can build at phase 3 the mk4 belts will do just fine

[shell lava]

How/when can I get that?

[shrewd palm]

phase 4

[glad quest]

its bauxite

[shell lava]

Wtf is bauxite 🙏 💀

[fluid sapphire]

early phase 4 milestone

[glad quest]

erm where is ur base? cuz if u have seen the purple trees its an orangy ore there

[shrewd palm]

just worry about all the oil and stuff in phase 3 first

[white dawn]

You'll be able to scan for bauxite once you need it. :)

[glad quest]

yh

[fluid sapphire]

aluminum is where things get hairy

[shrewd palm]

once you reach that part be warned because all bauxite comes from hell (red forest, swamp, titan forest)

[glad quest]

hell is an understatment as why is it always soo high up

[shrewd palm]

heaven but bad*

[shell lava]

In the northern forest on the edge

[glad quest]

the 3rd starting preset?

[shell lava]

yeah

[glad quest]

look SE and there is a pinky purpley bamboo forest

[shell lava]

The place where it drops down to desert and stuff

[glad quest]

with 4 pure iron nodes 2 pure copper nodes?

and a pure limestone

[shell lava]

Yeah

[glad quest]

so go SE towards the oil feild inbetween the grasslands and the weird bit thats due south of ur base

its quite far

its past crater lake

[shell lava]

Ok SW it is

[unique quest]

i spent all this time making an 8 generator coal factory and it turns out the way i layed it out they were getting an uneven stream of coal guhhhhhhhhh

[glad quest]

use manifold

its 15pm per one its should be good

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[shell lava]

I don't got tier 7 so

[south sinew]

you don't need tier 7 for that

[glad quest]

erm

[unique quest]

dont manifolds get progressively halved with each node or is there a way to go around that

[shell lava]

So I don't need tier 7 for aluminum?

[fluid sapphire]

120 goal goes in, 8 machines each take 15, where is the extra coal going to escape?

[south sinew]

you don't need aluminium to make manifolds

manifolds are just a certain arrangement of splitters and mergers

you can make them in tier 1 with just iron

[glad quest]

ohhh mb thought u were saying u need tier 7 for manifold lmfao

[glad quest]

but it overflows

[south sinew]

oh yeah me too, my bad

[glad quest]

once the first factory is full then only the required amount goes to it and the rest get more

[south sinew]

just wait a tediously long time

[glad quest]

one time i made a 20 long constructer manifold took like an hour to even out

[fluid sapphire]

its not that long

ya'll gotta stop acting like you need to babysit your manifolds

[glad quest]

nah just wait its fiiiine (my power grid is cooked)

[fluid sapphire]

thats a poor planning issue, not a manifold wait time issue

[hard ivy]

Yeah, I genuinely don't understand why people even care about manifold fill time at all

[south sinew]

because when you're doing stuff like making your power or making project parts or making items for the next tier/milestone there's often not much you can do except wait

[hard ivy]

If you for whatever reason do, use smart splitters to fill 1 machine at a time, it'll cut the wait time like in half

[south sinew]

the game is not that well structured for always having something you can do instead

[fluid sapphire]

ya'll crazy, there is always something to do

[hard ivy]

You can always just go out and explore

[south sinew]

if exploring was actually fun, that would be true

[mortal ginkgo]

Manually feeding manifold so it buffers faster = Crazy tactic, Doctors hate this one trick!

[south sinew]

but just waiting and watching a video on the other screen is more fun than that

[fluid sapphire]

you can do both

[south sinew]

I'd really rather just keep playing the actual game instead

manifold fill time is kinda like how it takes incredibly unnecessarily long for the pod to return after filling out milestones

there's no purpose to it, it just stops the player from doing what they actually want to do for no reason

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now...

[mental raft]

I have 600 hours

[south sinew]

definitely a strong negative of the game I'd say

[mortal ginkgo]

maybe you should take that puppy out for a while

[mental raft]

I’m not putting a miner on you

[mortal ginkgo]

whats the next thing he gonna say? Coal is unreasonably far away from starter zones?

[mortal ginkgo]

I AM TRYING MY BEST BROTHERMAN

[gentle lion]

So if I did my manifold wrong I just redo it and not worry about all my production being down?

[south sinew]

it will fix itself eventually

so the real downside is just all the tedious pointless waiting

[hard ivy]

then build a balancer and stop complaining

[gentle lion]

I think I ran too many splitters etc.

I mean the generators are currently full so shouldn't affect anything of I do it gay enough ?

[unkempt blade]

if you need immediate gratification you should go make a factory cart skatepark

[south sinew]

I don't need immediate gratification, but I do want my time investment to go somewhere

[unkempt blade]

I mean I didn't even scroll up and I see 4 messages complaining about waiting so....

[shell lava]

Guys I want to unlock the parachute and stuff but where do I find mycelia again?

[mortal ginkgo]

He is waiting for someone to agree with him.

[gentle lion]

At what point would you employ a truck and truck factory. Like I found several nodes of stuff that are a bit away have them drop off ingots at truck factory hook factory into constructor etc?

[south sinew]

It's not exactly a revelation that unnecessary waiting is bad. Otherwise why not just have the game take 30 minutes to start up?

[unique quest]

speaking of, why does this feature even exist

[mortal ginkgo]

If I see it far away, I make a truck station. I got like 15+ tractors wobbling around

[unkempt blade]

Yeah you really need a factory cart skatepark. Like more than anyone has ever needed one before

[south sinew]

I dunno. I can see the argument that having some animation that takes some time is fun enough, but it doesn't need to be more than like 30 seconds-1 minute

[gentle lion]

If the station is full do they just wait in line?

[mortal ginkgo]

its not a feature but a "meh situation". A machine does not need a full stack item to process. Most games lock that to lower amount.

[willow hill]

has anyone else ever hopped onto the pod when it was leaving and reach the height limit

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but I dont think I ever need more than one tractor for one station

[unkempt blade]

So you never need vehicles exactly but I'd normally start using more of them when I have extra fuel or power because I like seeing stuff drive around

[mortal ginkgo]

game is around for like 6 years, I can assure you even my mom did that

[willow hill]

k

[gentle lion]

Do you make foundation path for them to drive on especially with bad terrain

[hard ivy]

Yes, many people

[gentle lion]

Well yeah I just unlocked them I wanna see them drive lol

[still haven]

Hello :)

[unkempt blade]

factory carts don't like the dirt (they spin out) but other vehicles do fine on it

[mortal ginkgo]

if it is too bad, I make some small stuff, like bridges. however I am in rocky desert and there are actually a lot of natural roads if you are looking for it

tractors are ultra cute and wobbly, everyone should use them

[gentle lion]

Yeah I think I built across a lot of roads lol

I don't mind building a path for them

I just ahve a lot of iron deposits that I couldn't get to me and stuck storage containers for them and the containers are all full 😂

[mortal ginkgo]

I was a bit lazy so decided not to, however it is indeed good to make roads for them so I aint against it

[unkempt blade]

I'm a skyroad-enjoyer #screenshots message but I'll use the natural paths when they make sense

[glad quest]

is directx 12 more stable with amd now?

[gentle lion]

I'm guessing I should build a small area to test and get used to the mapping they need?

[gentle lion]

That is just gorgeous and chaotic

[mortal ginkgo]

sure why not, you really get a good feeling of the area when you do it, it comes naturally

[mortal ginkgo]

bro what is this colorful shet

why cant you be normal

[unkempt blade]

obligatory weirdness expo
outside: #screenshots message inside: #screenshots message

[gentle lion]

I'm trying to enjoy the game take my time learning and setting up stuff I'm almost completed phase 4? But I haven't even built factories for the stuff the next level of the space elevator

[mortal ginkgo]

RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

[mortal ginkgo]

meanwhile I am at 390h played in this save and I dont have trains. Phase 2 and I love decorating kek

[gentle lion]

Nice phase or tier 8m not sure what lol but I just unlocked the hypertubes and those are addicting

[unkempt blade]

Having fun is the important thing but I'll just say that decorating gets both easier and has more options the further into the game you get. I do most of my pretty builds after getting the hoverpack because it makes it so much more convenient

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont like hypertubes, I got a long power line system for running them 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

oh I know, the thing is, I am preparing each Phase as save so I can share with community and show them that "factory can be constantly pretty given time"

Its a personal project and I wouldnt recommend others.

[buoyant orbit]

can we all agree that the throughput monitor should have the ability to cast to a display sign

[mortal ginkgo]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah maybe

[buoyant orbit]

imagine you walk into a factory

and there is a massive sign that says throuput

and/ or overall items produced or smth

[gentle lion]

I will ask what the best stuff to sink for coupons

[buoyant orbit]

uhhh high tier things

[coarse path]

bro

[buoyant orbit]

what phase are you in?

[coarse path]

why are people lowkey crying about supercomputers

its so easy even tho its my first time playing this game

[unkempt blade]

I use billboard sized items in/items out signs for most of my builds so I can remember what I did later but having it be dynamic would be sorta neat too

[buoyant orbit]

yhhh

[mortal ginkgo]

The fact that we got no detailed global power and production graph is odd to me.

[fluid sapphire]

there is a global graph, provided you link everything up to a global grid

[hard ivy]

and there's no reason not to do that lol

[unkempt blade]

SCIM has "statistics" that will show you total production/consumption by item but I think all the power stuff is still per-network not global on there

[mortal ginkgo]

well I dont know why my max consumption is 1GW more than my current consumption while I have sinks everywhere and 95% of stuff are working 100% of the time.

NUMBERS JASON?! WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!?!?!?

[mortal ginkgo]

oh interesting

[hazy sparrow]

Whats the website called that does all the maths for ur factory?

[fluid sapphire]

bet if you look real close at everything, you will find out

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[hazy sparrow]

Thxs

[mortal ginkgo]

my assumption is that I got alot of downclocked buildings that max consumption gives power value as if nothing is downclocked...

[keen pike]

i was thinking about organizing my blueprints and i just realised, that the ''Undefined'' tab that you start with can not be removed
why is that?

[mortal ginkgo]

its the default directory, thats why

[hard ivy]

because that's where BPs go when the location is not defined

[mortal ginkgo]

dont worry, its there for you

[keen pike]

why can i not change its name or the icon

[fluid sapphire]

i dont think thats it, i just went to look at the power graph of a factory that has 200 underclocked machines, and an internal battery that i gave it just to check its performance: the only gaps between the consumption and max consumption are in increments of 29.9MW, which is accounted for by sinks

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to believe you but I just dont have any dormant 1GW idle factory...

[hard ivy]

machines with variable consumption don't add to max cons correctly sometimes

[fluid sapphire]

this isnt a matter of belief, its objective data that proves the contrary

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, when I test it with an assembler, my max consumption does not change if I downclock it, but it does if I overclock.

[glad quest]

looks nervously at my 1gw dormant factory and my 0.2gw power supply

[hard ivy]

you need to run it through 1 cycle before checking its stats

[mortal ginkgo]

I kek at that factory

[glad quest]

kek?

[mortal ginkgo]

kek.

[glad quest]

what does it mean

[mortal ginkgo]

#off-topic-media message

[glad quest]

laugh?

[mortal ginkgo]

you could say that

[glad quest]

well tbf its technically like 10.02gw

[fluid sapphire]

i have like 30GW worth of dormant machines

[glad quest]

yeah thats not too bad tbh but ive still not got coal power

im using a mod and the coal set up doesnt seem worth it

[glad quest]

10gw isnt that bad lol

thats only 10,000mw

[fluid sapphire]

in the early game it sure sounds like a lot

[glad quest]

true esp with biomass burners

[fluid sapphire]

even at the coal power stage

[glad quest]

most powerful coal plant i made was 48 coal power plants which is what like 3600 mw

[compact flicker]

Why arent my freight platforms syncroized 😭

[fluid sapphire]

perhaps. i had 2x8 before getting fuel power

wym

[glad quest]

yh ikr i think its a optimisation at longer distances

[compact flicker]

I've got 5 of em in a station and the animations are all off from eachother

[glad quest]

are any full?

[fluid sapphire]

if its just an animation issue, try to ignore it

its pretty common

[compact flicker]

One is, but ye its just animation

[unkempt blade]

if you set up a boombox near them it'll help them to keep rhythm

[compact flicker]

Lmao alr

[fluid sapphire]

ffs i hate it when blueprints get misaligned by like 0.1m, wtf is that

[glad quest]

ikr sometimes a pesky bush survives an atomic blast and then messes everything up

[compact flicker]

Cant wait to get my hands on the nuke nobelisk

[glad quest]

its peak

[fluid sapphire]

no bushes all the way up here at like 300m

[glad quest]

what caused it then?

[fluid sapphire]

i dont know, these walls are supposed to clip halfway into the foundation, but i found a spot where it was like 25% way into the foundation

#screenshots message

the black 1m wall

[glad quest]

lol sounds about right

looks sick lol

[fluid sapphire]

ive seen similar stuff before with pipe and belt supports

[glad quest]

same do u ever get it with straight conveyers where it suddenly decides to unstraighten itself

like the very end becomes crooked

[fluid sapphire]

all the time

i am basically working on the second half of my generators to look like this tower does

#screenshots message

ive been pushing this off for months

[compact flicker]

Time to blend my slug stockpile

[glad quest]

do you know what it does this? or is it a bug or summin? as its infuritating

[fluid sapphire]

no idea

[glad quest]

it looks awesome def worth the time

[fluid sapphire]

thanks, its super tedious fr, this is the satisfactory equivalent of me eating my veggies, its the last half-finished thing on my map, after that i can start something new from a clean slate

[glad quest]

yeah sometimes the finishing part of a factory can be tedious

thats why all my factories are flat floors that increase in size as they go up lol

[fluid sapphire]

ive been pretty good with it for the most part, usually i dont move on until something is 100% done, this is one of the very few exceptions

[glad quest]

im yet to actually automate uranium power and i have 750 hours

[gentle lion]

Was this question for me?

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have any elevator part production for phase 4 and i am at 1100+ hours

[compact flicker]

Genuinely curious as to how

[glad quest]

space elivator parts annoy me lol as they have no other use aprat from elevator and sinking them

[glad quest]

im 30 hours in and still phase 1

[fluid sapphire]

i have it mapped, i just need to build them and fill the gaps

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Z72kBHbxjhwK96GFOGOF

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=4bt59g1azxopcBQoae9D

a lot of the precursors are already set up, some are still missing

[livid geyser]

I need to make a mega power factory for all the ideas I have for other factories. Fun times

[fluid sapphire]

just vibing, hanging around, always finding side projects, if you look at some of my stuff in the screenshots channel, you will probably see why, its nothing amazing looking, but takes a silly amount of trial and error still

[glad quest]

how much power do you want

[livid geyser]

I’m in tier 7, haven’t unlocked nuclear. I need a lot.

At least 25k MW

[zenith pecan]

Not a lot really.

[glad quest]

oooooooooohhhhh lowk i always used sloops for power

[hasty fable]

@charred idol Means its one of those small nodes that you can hand mine