satisfactory

[dense violet]

very fair

[hard ivy]

I'm planning to do 1k+ reactors and 10 matrixed Augmenters

[steel kelp]

I need 100k power just to get the setup running lol

Didnt realise how hungry it was lol

[hard ivy]

Sounds about right

[coral glacier]

I will need all of your SAM please, the factory must grow.

[steel kelp]

1k reactors is scary

[coral glacier]

Oooo, Uranium or Plutonium?

[hard ivy]

Well, 400, because 250% OC but still

[coral glacier]

Aw

[hard ivy]

I did 418 at 100% once

[steel kelp]

Thats wild lmao

Idrk what im gonna do w the plutonium rods ill be making as well, it feels like a waste to just sink them

But i also want all the statues

[coral glacier]

Imagine Mobile satisfactory 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Noo, a repeat of galaxy note 7, nasty!

[coral glacier]

Statues, then plutonium reactors, then rid them with ficsonium reactors

I wonder if the steam console will handle satisfactory

[hard ivy]

Storing plutonium waste is not that bad. There's a lot less of it than uranium waste

Up to 20x less

[steel kelp]

Id rather just sink it at that point

[coral glacier]

What he said

[steel kelp]

Idrk what i would do with the extra power

[coral glacier]

Just having it is nice

You can experiment with alternate factory configurations!

[steel kelp]

I will have 1 million with the uranium rods alone

[reef basin]

steam console?

[steel kelp]

Ill probably go back and redesign my old factories to make them not look like boxes

[coral glacier]

Gabe Cube

[reef basin]

that's a PC, not a console

[coral glacier]

That's a funny looking PC, haha

[reef basin]

it's still a PC, runs steamOS and you can do anything there you could do on a normal PC

[coral glacier]

So it's a PC that looks like a console?

[reef basin]

what even is "looks like a console" lol

[coral glacier]

Forget it

[hard ivy]

It looks like a mini PC

[coral glacier]

🤣

[stuck bough]

*PC and yes, definitely

[coral glacier]

I saw the trailer and it said that it had an amd gpu, are there any specifications as to the hardware it runs on?

[reef basin]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

[hard ivy]

it literally says that it's a PC right in there

[reef basin]

yeah lol

[hard ivy]

I was about to link it myself

Tbh I really like their marketing materials on there

[coral glacier]

Interesting

[hard ivy]

What other manufacturer would use "y'all" on their page

[coral glacier]

Steam in another dimension

[reef basin]

you mean the four goofy-portrayed hardwares with aniamated legs and (sometimes) arms walking? 😄

[ocean frost]

you might if you use some sloops.

OC and Sloops are OP

[hard ivy]

I was mostly talking about

Ready for all the peripherals and monitors you can throw* at it: 1 Gigabit Ethernet. DisplayPort 1.4. HDMI 2.0. One USB-C and four USB-A ports.

*But, like, don't actually throw things at it.

[hard ivy]

I was replying to a person who said they spent all their sloops on uranium rods

So at that point, there likely will not be enough SAM to convert all that waste all the way into Ficsonium, even if you make minimum plutonium

[ocean frost]

crank out the portable miners

RSI is the limit to how much sam you can have

[whole drum]

Get some slaves friends to help too

[nocturne sentinel]

what if so called friends slaves dont play satisfactory

[whole drum]

Can you really call them friends, then?

[nocturne sentinel]

yes bc i dont have to pay them for working for me

[ocean frost]

We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't play satisfactory
And if they don't play satisfactory
Well they're no friends of mine

[nocturne sentinel]

dont worry all of my friends play war thunder

[ocean frost]

mine play RIAD SHADDOW LEGENDS

[nocturne sentinel]

nuke?

[whole drum]

Top tier multiplayer right there

[primal obsidian]

my alarm woke me up at 5 AM for some reason and my school is at 8 so guess whos playing satisfactory at 6:52 AM

[whole drum]

I can guess who will be playing at 7:52

[silk ocean]

I was playing at 0430 xD

[fiery pewter]

Guess who is not playing Satisfactory

-# I am procrastinating the Reinforced Iron Plates production line

[silk ocean]

Although kinda more running it to warm up my room... it was -2C last night

[fiery pewter]

This I feel

When cold, activate max settings

[silk ocean]

Yep lol

[fiery pewter]

I have the same thing, my room doesn't have heating

[primal obsidian]

i havae the opposite problem because the temparature is cold so the heating is on but then when i turn on my computer everything is too hoy

[silk ocean]

I am fortunate enough to have heating but it was turned off 😈

[fiery pewter]

Darn

How is your cooling ratio

Like how many in how many out

I have 6 fans sucking air in and 3 fans sucking air out

[primal obsidian]

but its pretty easy to open the window and freeze myself to death

[fiery pewter]

Ah

Yah that sucks

I am making a rad starter base tho

[primal obsidian]

its a gaming laptop sitting on a desk

[fiery pewter]

Bunch of plateaus

[fiery pewter]

Welp

Don't have a fix for that

[fiery pewter]

I'm in that one valley of the Northern Forest with a bunch of iron

[primal obsidian]

the temp outside is -3C so if i feel too hot all i have to do is open a window

[fiery pewter]

Where are y'all where it is so damn cold

[primal obsidian]

nice

canada

[fiery pewter]

Ah

Explains alot

Ya I'm here in the Netherlands

[primal obsidian]

is this your second playthrough

[whole drum]

North America, Europe, or Russia--especially that last one, and not just because of the weather

[fiery pewter]

I have around 300-400 hours

[fiery pewter]

Figured

[primal obsidian]

i have 100 hours

[fiery pewter]

I just have like 3 or 4 playthroughs that stopped around oil power

[primal obsidian]

have you ever gotten further then that

[fiery pewter]

Nope

Was just

Too ambitious

Wanting 20k, 75k mw power plants

Whilst not having the time nor resources

[buoyant mica]

Guys. I'm new to satifactory with my friend and we are feeling very unmotivated after seeing Phase 2 of the space elevator. Is there any checklist I can follow to help our next session to be more productive?. I think our electrical grid is sitting on 90MW.

[fiery pewter]

I plan to change that with the current playthrough

[fiery pewter]

But you have tiers 3 and 4 unlocked?

[buoyant mica]

Yes

[fiery pewter]

First step is coal power

So you don't have to worry about biomass anymore

Then some basic steel products

Beams and pipes

Then, get also some modular frame production going

And some stator production

[buoyant mica]

I actually have too much Solid Biomass right now. Is coal really urgent?

[fiery pewter]

Depends

You need the coal for the steel as well

[buoyant mica]

I see.

[fiery pewter]

But eventually that biomass will run out

And you're gonna need a bit more than 90mw

[buoyant mica]

thank you. I'll get the coal running ASAP

[fiery pewter]

Nice one

Useful tip for coal: 1 Generator takes 15 coal per minute and 45 water per minute

8 generators in a row take 120 coal and 360 water

1 water Generator produces 120 water per minute

[fiery pewter]

I'm guessing you two are in the Green fields?

[buoyant mica]

yea. It's the first one right?

[fiery pewter]

Most beginner friendly one

[buoyant mica]

I see. We might have made tree a protected wild life

[fiery pewter]

Lmao

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message I suggest here

I'ts about the top left of the Green Fields

[buoyant mica]

yes I saw the ping xd. I'll go check it out. Also is the map not randomly generated?

[fiery pewter]

No

The map is the same one every time, with the only stuff that changes being the random ore rocks, but they differ in ore, not location

All of the 4 spawn locations are also on the same map

The Green Fields is the bottom, Rocky Desert top left, Dune Desert is top right, and the Northern Forest is in the middle

[primal obsidian]

what belt does 540/min need

mk.5 right

[buoyant mica]

got it. thank you

[silk ocean]

5 yea

[hard ivy]

or Mk6

[fiery pewter]

Or mk4+mk1, but will give a bad throughput

-# although that also depends

[hard ivy]

it adds up to 540. So as long as you don't have that 540 coming from a single source with a single output or need it to go into a single destination with a single input, you can just use multiple belts

It doesn't even need to add up to 540. It can add up to more

[fiery pewter]

That is, in fact, what I meant with "depends", but I couldn't find the words for it :3

[primal obsidian]

thanks

thats why the refineries were getting clogged

i mea the smelter

[fiery pewter]

Odd thing to switch up, but it happens

[hard ivy]

Could be because the refineries are clogged because smelters are clogged because of the slow belt

[buoyant mica]

I tripped my breaker by taking out the iron from the bottlenecked smelter

[hard ivy]

Always keep your capacity above max consumption

[fiery pewter]

I hear aluminiumiumium

[clear aspen]

Good morning/evening/afternoon folks

[buoyant mica]

I didn't notice it XD

[fiery pewter]

Hello there

[hard ivy]

general kenobi

[clear aspen]

Hru

[fiery pewter]

I'd suggest having a bigger difference between consumption and production than 90 mw

[buoyant mica]

I'm trying to work on that xD

[fiery pewter]

Pondering about a bunch of off-topic stuff

[primal obsidian]

almost done automating radio control units

[fiery pewter]

-# I know

[hard ivy]

90? 1 smelter is 4 XD

[clear aspen]

You should ping me while your at it

[nova igloo]

Which country owns ficsit? 🧐

[fiery pewter]

That is in 100 hours? You're better than me

[fiery pewter]

Earth

[primal obsidian]

no im on a multiplayer server

[fiery pewter]

Ah

[primal obsidian]

i could never

[fiery pewter]

Yeah, that is true, just making some assumptions

[whole drum]

Whichever one that owns its parent company: Black Mesa

[primal obsidian]

yknow i shouldve used the excess heat sinks and hihg speed connectors i had for this instead but oh well only 1 factory might as well finsih

[ornate saffron]

You sure? I feel like there isn't a long enough gondola

[fiery pewter]

Stormworks engine, War Thunder grind, Satisfactory production lines, school, work and uhh
-# a girl

[whole drum]

That's because you haven't built it yet

[whole drum]

One of these doesn't belong

[clear aspen]

All I can think about is BNA

[fiery pewter]

Me dunno

[primal obsidian]

base materials for cystal oscillators is iron copper and quartz right

[clear aspen]

It’s a really good anime

[fiery pewter]

Now is just the question: which one is it

[whole drum]

Depends what recipe you use

[primal obsidian]

base recipie

[fiery pewter]

-# I don't watch...anime

[clear aspen]

Make an exception for BNA

[whole drum]

I have a hard time finding anime I like because 90% of it is slop

[fiery pewter]

Wher watch

[whole drum]

At least

[clear aspen]

Netflix

[fiery pewter]

Ah

Yeah don't have that

[clear aspen]

You can always pirate it

[primal obsidian]

it should be one container/ material for trains right

[fiery pewter]

-# which I do with every show I watch

[fiery pewter]

Depends on the distance

[clear aspen]

Me n u both

[fiery pewter]

Longer distance>more freight cars>better throughput

[clear aspen]

Do u want me to dm u the website twin

[fiery pewter]

I have a source

[clear aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/brand-new-animal-bna-michiru-happy-tanuki-gif-16748702

[whole drum]

What is it?

[fiery pewter]

Embed fail

Anme

[primal obsidian]

how do i make something a spoiler again

[clear aspen]

It’s an anime

[whole drum]

Name?

[fiery pewter]

|| these bad boys

[clear aspen]

BNA

[primal obsidian]

i need to send an image of the 2 stations im connecting

for image

[fiery pewter]

Two either side

[fiery pewter]

For image idk

[whole drum]

That's not an abbreviation?

[fiery pewter]

I haven't achieved that yet

[clear aspen]

Unabreviatuon is Brand New Animal

[buoyant mica]

Coal is 600m away 😭

[fiery pewter]

Don't need to spoil that

[whole drum]

Is that some kind of shounen or isekai?

[fiery pewter]

That's not that bad

[primal obsidian]

radio towers everywhere

[hard ivy]

That's pretty close

[primal obsidian]

whole map reveals like every node

[clear aspen]

Idk how to classify it, mainly cause I don’t know what those mean

[fiery pewter]

Wait unitl you get oil and see that the closest is 1000m+ away

[primal obsidian]

\

[buoyant mica]

😭

[hard ivy]

With uranium or nitrogen it might be 2-3 km away lol

[fiery pewter]

Yeah

But I have never gotten that far, I wouldn't know

[whole drum]

Shounen is stuff like DBZ, Bleach, Naruto, One Piece

Isekai is stuff where someone gets transported to another world (often via reincarnation) so they have outside knowledge that gives them an advantage

[dense violet]

for coal power? find a spot with several nodes next to water, burn it there.

It's not far 🙂

[fiery pewter]

I did send them a place

That suited their location

[clear aspen]

Discribe shonen or whatever it’s called

[buoyant mica]

I see. Also how do you add stuff to hot key? I only have the default power/conveyor belt combo

[clear aspen]

Cause rn it’s leaning towards that

[whole drum]

Usually has a lot of characters with special abilities of varying power levels, features a lot of combat scenes, tends to overexplain the fights

[fiery pewter]

iirc, click the number that corresponds to it, 1 for example, when hovering over in build menu

[buoyant mica]

Got it. Thank you

[clear aspen]

Yea that’s it but it doesn’t have the overpainting

Bna is shonen

And a BANGER soundtrack

[hard ivy]

Press the hotkey while hovering over something in the building menu

Also, there's 10 hotbars for a total of 100 shortcuts

[primal obsidian]

i think you guys need to go to #off-topic-general

[fiery pewter]

This server has an off topic?

[primal obsidian]

yeah

[whole drum]

Don't know. Never heard of her.

[fiery pewter]

Same brother

[clear aspen]

I just refuse to use it

[primal obsidian]

why not

[clear aspen]

Cause nobody else does

This one is more active

[whole drum]

Nobody likes channel hopping

[primal obsidian]

anyway should i loop my tracks or make a line with a bi-directional traain

[fiery pewter]

It's all the way down there, like the lower levels of Coruscant

[hard ivy]

Depends on whether you're planning to have 1 train on there or more

[primal obsidian]

1 single train

[clear aspen]

Star Wars nerd detected, opinion valid

[hard ivy]

Then bi-di is fine

[primal obsidian]

to transport the aluminum '=casings and the computers to the oscillators for radio control units

[hard ivy]

The more trains you have, the worse bi-di gets

For one, it's perfectly adequate

For 2, it starts getting messy because signals

For more, it starts getting extremely inefficient

[fiery pewter]

Then you'd have to make slip roads or something

To move a train out of the way

[clear aspen]

Yo you should ping me

Try to get this servers accuracy up

[fiery pewter]

I have done that a gazilion times already

[clear aspen]

No an @ mention

[fiery pewter]

Because no

And then it was quiet

[clear aspen]

I was doing a guessing game in another server

[waxen lodge]

can i spawn in items? im coming back after a big break from the game and decided to start again

The problem is i DO NOT want to play without the hover pack ✌️ makes building so uncomfortable

[abstract heron]

i am thinking of pinging mikael for video ask and to show him something

[dense violet]

used advanced game settings

[hard ivy]

You can use advanced game settings for that

Or just use them to just enable flight mode

[waxen lodge]

crap can i change the settings after creating a world already?

[hard ivy]

Yeah, save, go to the load menu, load settings, advanced game settings, enable

[dense violet]

sure

But honestly it doesn't take long to go up tiers

[waxen lodge]

i dont even have coal yet 😭
it took me like more than 200 hrs to get to 7th tier

[silk ocean]

There's no rush xD

[ocean frost]

you can use a mod or use SCIM to give yourself the equipment.

[silk ocean]

This isn't Quake Done Quick xD

[ocean frost]

SCIM has a save and map editor

[waxen lodge]

if i can make a gigantic space elevator the second i am born onto the world the pioneer shouldn't have a problem attaching 2 fans to a backpack

[dense violet]

you ... need coal to get to the 7th tier...

[waxen lodge]

tl;dr im LAZY

[waxen lodge]

yes that the point
i want a hoverpack NOW

[whole drum]

Just build glass floors everywhere and pretend it's hovering

[ocean frost]

Knock yourself out

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[dense violet]

you'll get to 7th tier much faster 2nd time around.

[ocean frost]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[waxen lodge]

MY SLOTH AND GREED HAS PUNISHED ME
MY MOUSE ISNT WORKING OUTSIDE OF SATISFACTORY NOW

[limpid cairn]

Good

[silk ocean]

Run in borderless?

[limpid cairn]

Get back to expanding the factory pioneer

now 10 sets of pasting the same bp for a small HMF factory !!!

[limpid cairn]

Stop encouraging to leave the game

[clear aspen]

67

[dry sonnet]

how do u guys make items for yourself since i have a bad habit of making a specific item just for use for new factories how do u guys make it so its balanced and u still make extra for yourself?

[silk ocean]

Feed every single type of resource and product into a respective* dimensional depot

[steep creek]

either find new resource nodes and make a seperate production line just to run into a dimensional depot or overlock your current nodes and expand your production line then split that off into a dimensional depot

[dry sonnet]

yeah but like then i dont have enough items for filling them fast

[steep creek]

then find new nodes and make a new production line for it

[dry sonnet]

no but like i meant like i production lines that go directly into a storage container and nothing else and then they lie dorment and i heard its not good that they just do nothing

[tardy quest]

It’s really hard to find a mate for late game

[silk ocean]

Split them off upstream?

[steep creek]

its fine its a small production line its fine if they dont function when they are full

also if you wanna keep it on all the time you can always split the overflow into a resource sink and make some coupons

[silk ocean]

The depot is only finite in size, once full normal production rates will resume

[dry sonnet]

ok so i would only like take for example like 50 iron from a 300 iron node to make plates and such and with the rest 250 i woulld make continiously making factories

[dry sonnet]

thats what i have done for some yes

[steep creek]

yeah you can do that

[dry sonnet]

allright thx

[steep creek]

nws

[odd yarrow]

Will Satisfactory be cross-platform on PC and PS5?

[silk ocean]

Well, not at the moment at least xD

[limpid cairn]

Place a smart splitter with excess setting on one side

Feed that side into an dimensional depot

[limpid cairn]

they both run on different versions but it’s probably possible with mods

[south sinew]

I highly doubt that any mod can make that happen

[limpid cairn]

Anything is possible

you just have to dedicate yourself

[south sinew]

that's definitely not true

[gilded sentinel]

Anyone have any good mod recommendations?

[limpid cairn]

Check the modding dc

!mods

how do I do that

[gilded sentinel]

There's a dedicated server for modded satisfactory???

[tardy quest]

Always daylight

[native tapir]

SKYUI even better

[tardy quest]

Sounds fire

[limpid cairn]

Check dm

[abstract heron]

Yes

[barren arch]

im finally finishing phase 3

[native tapir]

Mods that are worth checking out if you want to have better QOL without totally changing the game:

-Infinite Nudge (allows smaller/larger nudge increments)
-SKYUI
-Curve-building tool
-Dynamic Trains
-Cartograph

-Better vehicles

[limpid cairn]

Good luck in phase 4

[barren arch]

wdym 😭

[limpid cairn]

Pure torture

At least phase 5 is heaven

[barren arch]

i dont even want to think on that, cuz phase 3 what hell

[abstract heron]

@void gorge is there a friday video and can we have a spot in #faq for the commands to get the other servers like modded and dis person has most hrs on satisfactory is sasiska, with a total of 37,995 hours.

[limpid cairn]

expect to ask a lot here when doing phase 4

There’s a LOT of stuff you have to deal with

@barren arch make sure to open the plumber manual on a second screen!

[barren arch]

is there anything i should buy with cupons

[limpid cairn]

Coupons are purely optional in the game but I recommend buying the pipes and belt extras

Like floor hole etc etc

[barren arch]

ok so im fine

im asking cuz i got lots of things and still have 40 cupons left

[limpid cairn]

Make sure to buy other foundations and try them out

[barren arch]

these i didnt, ill check

[limpid cairn]

They have different costs for each foundation type

Concrete foundations cut out iron plates btw

At a cost of 2 more concrete

[barren arch]

how do i change to asphalt

[silk ocean]

Little drop down box top right of the section

[quick hound]

Yes, it is.

I didn’t

[mortal ginkgo]

you should have stopped at 690th mercer sphere

this is a known LAW.

[rustic pier]

Right i had parts left over because i overbuilt xD biggest issue to me was the 2nd item on the list. Cant recall what it was

[limpid cairn]

nuclear pasta?

[rustic pier]

Oh wait no.. i got that done first lol..

Ill have to look at the list again >.> its been a few weeks since i finished

[limpid cairn]

warp drives?

or AI servers?

[barren arch]

whats the best mam tree to focus?

[silk ocean]

Alien Tech

[hard ivy]

Yes

[livid geyser]

That moment when you explored so much in a past day that when I entered on phase 4, all tier 7 is immediately completed. Give or take.

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots message see you after 3 hours

[barren arch]

make an assembler

[dusky aspen]

i have one. it is just to slow. so i handcraft

i want phase 3 faster

[barren arch]

use more than one maybe

[dusky aspen]

700 reinforced plates LOL

[vague creek]

less manual crafting = faster 😛

[abstract heron]

Try a billion or million

[dusky aspen]

i will do one that takes from reinforced plates and rods storage

[livid geyser]

Pure Aluminium Ingot or Sloppy Alumina

Alternate wise

[plain gate]

sloppy

[dusky aspen]

some people said there is not TOO much energy. you was RIGHT

[livid geyser]

Oh, hoverboard. This is pretty nice.

[whole drum]

This. The entire premise of the game is to automate and scale up.

[fiery pewter]

Always like it sloppy

-# my Alumina that is

[fiery pewter]

Been there done that

Took very long

[barren arch]

8 more components to finish phase 3

[reef basin]

which one do you like more?

[silk ocean]

AL Slop xD

[livid geyser]

I got both, I have a big surplus of HD

I’m still researching to see what else is there.

I was ready for phase 4 for a while, just wanted to get all alt recipes stocked up so I can unlock new ones as soon I move on to phase 4 which is happening atm

[reef basin]

then just get all, no reason to ask 😉

[barren arch]

finally phase4 😭

[odd yarrow]

0

[livid geyser]

I feel intimidated by phase 4

[barren arch]

im going to speedrun that

ill do that the most spaghetti way as possible

[livid geyser]

I can’t do spaghetti, it annoys me to see a mess. So I will literally pause everything and make a good ish factory. Haha

[barren arch]

i am 50% organized and 50% spaghetti

[livid geyser]

I’m like 80% organised and 20% wtf is this

[barren arch]

check screenshots

the worst part is covered

[sonic verge]

I just completed Phase 2 last night...and 5 minutes later my brain exploded.

[livid geyser]

Burn it with fire.

[barren arch]

lol

[livid geyser]

Felt that

[sonic verge]

Im overwhelmed, its my first playthrough...my base is a mess. I dont know what to do next 😕

[ornate saffron]

I like to break the next phase into manageable chunks. A great way to do so is using the tier unlocks.

[livid geyser]

It’s time for exploring, getting oil baby.

[sonic verge]

I have been, should I tear some stuff down and replace? I have 4 pure iron going to my first coal area (I have 8 going) but I dont fully understand how to distribute the 4 iron to the 2 pure coal I have without losing any resources

[tall lantern]

very rarely any need to tear down a working factory

[dusky aspen]

is there a site where i can check how much water pumps would i need for 10 or more coal generators?

[tall lantern]

there are plenty more resources around the world, so if you can't get enough from what you've got, just expand

[livid geyser]

Three for eight coal factory, that I know.

[reef basin]

0

[tall lantern]

a calculator 😛
if one extractor makes 120 and one gen needs 45...

[dusky aspen]

i have 5 for 10. so i can build more generators?

[sonic verge]

I made some mistakes, my main mistake i made was making storage bins on top of each other

[tall lantern]

that doesn't sound like a mistake in itself

[sonic verge]

so it's hard for me to use the smart splitter into the awesome sink

[remote pasture]

@pliant gale if everything goes as planned. Then i should have satisfactory baught amd downloading by 6pm tomorrow.

[livid geyser]

Water does 2.6 without overclocking so you can match two coal to one water, five coal to two water, etc

[dusky aspen]

so i need about 4?

[tall lantern]

why guess when you can just do the math

[livid geyser]

For ten, yeah I believe so.

[dusky aspen]

okay

i have 5 so i can build more

[tall lantern]

how much water would 10 gens need? how much water does one extractly supply? and so how many extractors do you need?

all that said, beware of pipe throughput limits, generally easier to split up into groups of, say, 8

[livid geyser]

Yup, that’s exactly what I did.

[ornate saffron]

I try not to tear down and replace. My reasoning is that it feels bad to do so. It makes me feel like I'm loosing progress. Also, I like going back at the end of the game and seeing my progress from the start to finish. See how I improved over the time of the game.

For these reason unless I run out of resources I don't tear down

[livid geyser]

Meanwhile once I understand something, I tear it down and make it better.

[tall lantern]

you are losing progress. Even if you had a completely unrecoverable factory, you could just disconnect the inputs and leave the rest there

you can use the lessons you learned when making future stuff without needing to tear down what you have

[leaden turret]

yes, you can restart from scratch instead of tearing down

[ornate saffron]

The best part of this game is that it gives you a tool box to complete tasks. And there is a many of ways to complete them.

[livid geyser]

Preach. I just like making my OG factory better, even if I’m trying to expand more and more.

Now I gotta find some brand new node.

For phase 4 stuff

[rustic pier]

Ai servers i think

[livid geyser]

So as long I have power sources, I can literally fly all over the map? That’s funny and cool

[reef basin]

that's usually unnecessary complicated

[livid geyser]

Oh, I’m aware. It’s just fun to do.

[limpid cairn]

the best is to have 1 main base where you transport everything over 5 train stations

[livid geyser]

I haven’t even touched trains stations. I’m very intimidated by the idea atm.

[tall lantern]

you mispelt "worst" 😉

[livid geyser]

Question, if I want to buy parts from awesome sink, is it just one part for whatever token? Or is it a stack?

[reef basin]

afaik a stack most of the time

[livid geyser]

Oh, that’s handy.

[near thicket]

Did Josh invent Doggo waste removal or did someone figure that out before him

[calm terrace]

is it just me or is silica the most frustrating item in he game, besides screws

[reef basin]

screws aren't frustrating 🤔

[silk ocean]

Silica is easy?

One of the easiest things to make in the game

[leaden turret]

it was figured out before

[near thicket]

Are we thinking of the same thing? Like...you hook a quartz node into four constructors, set two to crystals, two to silica, attach them to a depot, and go play the rest of the game?

[white dawn]

Pretty sure it was known before that video, though it's entirely possible he discovered it independently (edit: oops, didn't see that signpostmarv already replied)

[brazen coral]

Gotten to fuel power finally, just a mess trying to deal with the byproducts. Is there a fluid tank rather than a buffer? Cuz I like to have something where all the fluid could drain out of it instead of having fluid on standby.

[shrewd palm]

nope!

[reef basin]

process the byproducts, don't store them

open codex and see what you can do with them

[shrewd palm]

you either make something useful with the byproducts or spend ages emptying buffers

[brazen coral]

The only byproducts I store are plastic and rubber. I don't actively store the heavy fuel cuz that gets used up almost immediately

[shrewd palm]

for those just add a smart splitter on to the belt going into the containers and set one of the sides to "overflow" then belt it to an awesome sink

[scenic mirage]

or straight into a sink 😉

[brazen coral]

That's what I already have, at most I keep one industrial storage worth of materials to keep on hand

Tried to even store the fuel by packaging it, but fluid dynamics are weird and don't want to fill up more than one Packager even with a pump

[reef basin]

why store fuel?

[brazen coral]

I thought it would help the process better but it does not. It definitely does not

[reef basin]

yeah don't store fluids at all and only store solids that are final products

[shrewd palm]

you can store some for jetpack but you really dont need that much

all the other fuel and stuff should just go straight to generators

[brazen coral]

I mean yeah that's why I store some as well for the jet pack

But I actually almost have turbo fuel, just need to set up something for compacted coal

[scenic mirage]

i have a smart splitter that fills a dimensional depot then just sinks the rest

its like 60 fuel/min or smth not worth hooking up to power

[brazen coral]

Yeah I'll just get rid of the buffers cuz it's not worth having

[reef basin]

they never are worth (apart from train platform buffering)

[scenic mirage]

choo choo mother f*cker

[brazen coral]

That's my next thing I'm doing is the train, I already got Mark 4 belts and starting to sloop the encased steel beams

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[mortal ginkgo]

hi

[clear aspen]

Hru

[honest sleet]

almost done with project assembly 2! i'll probably be able to launch after lunch!

[scenic mirage]

be careful not to go over the pre allowed rest time

[clear aspen]

I really wanna get back into satisfactory, I just don’t know what do do

Last time I get on I was building a 1200m^3 setup of furbofuelnpower

[silk ocean]

Time to launch! BUT FIRST.... lunch xD

[kindred adder]

lunch to launch

[silk ocean]

Lunch launch xD

[honest sleet]

oki

[silk ocean]

FICSIT will have you in the office

[brazen coral]

I'm not sure if this should happen or if this is only on console, but once I put my PlayStation on rest mode the game still kept going and it happened to log the hours so technically everything was still running xD

[wanton goblet]

Is there a roadmap of some sort to see what is next and what else we can look forward to?

[wild flax]

Are 3 iron Viens in the same spot rare?

Like iam talking 10 feet away from each other

[silk ocean]

They are not connected to eachother, they may be, but each is an individual purity

[wild flax]

All are normal

[silk ocean]

Often you find multiple nodes near eachother yea, in that sense

or in the general area of the map

[mortal ginkgo]

meanwhile Caterium

"oh look, imma be like, at the edge of the map, mmh, yeah, thats good, I love solitude. Mmh. Yes. Mmmmmh."

[silk ocean]

Caty and SAM are a bit lonesome xD

[brazen coral]

How much does each train car hold for slots?

[silk ocean]

32 slots

[brazen coral]

Of course it does. Couldn't be the whole 48 slots like a truck xD

[honest sleet]

where do i get SAM?

[proper hound]

the station has full 48 slots or something. 1.5x of train car

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Future+content

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Future+content

[silk ocean]

It's kinda spread all over the map

Usually just a sole node in a random location, resource scanner prob best bet

[proper hound]

you do need to find a sample to unlock scanning tho, right?

[honest sleet]

yea

can u DM me a map of SAM nodes?

[silk ocean]

You can turn them on SCIM interactive map

[honest sleet]

where do i get that

or is that a website

[leaden turret]

linked in #welcome

[silk ocean]

Go to Map Layers tab -> Unselect All Layers, then go to the Resource nodes tab -> select the SAM nodes

[honest sleet]

already got it, found one near spawn

[silk ocean]

You might need to go to Settings and disable fog of war but I think that's only if you load your save

[honest sleet]

within spawn circle

i could've landed literally straight on top of it

[silk ocean]

Not bad luck then xD

[scenic mirage]

just finished 1000 copper powder/minute 😎

[harsh crystal]

will alternate recipes' replace the recipe I have or can i use both?

[steady cedar]

can use any you like

[lofty forge]

both. alt recipes are alt recipes. you can use them if you want. it doesnt replace the standart

[harsh crystal]

alright thanks guys

[white dawn]

(And also, even if you find an alt recipe you like, doesn't mean that you'll always use that recipe. Depending on the factory you're currently building, various recipes might make more sense than others. The alts are just there to give you options, etc.)

[harsh crystal]

will i be able to get all the alt recipies or will i only be able to get a few per playthrough

[livid geyser]

So many recipes on the HD already, finally seen all tier 7 recipes. Some look fun, some looks complex.

[hybrid ridge]

chat whats the best item to farm coupons for thy golden nut
(resource wise)

[livid geyser]

Heard it’s Silica

[mystic oriole]

Thermal Propulsion Rocket for 732 956points

[fiery pewter]

Handcrafting core

[fluid sapphire]

just go afk for a year

[shell lava]

Guys, I expanded my power facility very much and I got 1.125 MW now 🥳

Nearly doubled it

[lofty forge]

if you are early game just connect one of the uranium nodes and feed it raw

[fiery pewter]

My wallet isn't that thick

[lofty forge]

silica is also really good

[lofty forge]

as far as i know all of them. there are enough harddrives on the map

[mortal ginkgo]

there are enough (and few extra) hard drives, you can always get all recipes every playthrough

[harsh crystal]

thanksks yous guys's

[hybrid ridge]

no im past every phase already, and have a giant nuvlear power plant

[lofty forge]

thermal propulsion rocket and ballistic warp drive

[lofty forge]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink if you feel like it

[peak umbra]

Can a 2GW from a coal factory get me to phase 3?

[fluid sapphire]

for sure

not through it maybe, but to it, for sure

[peak umbra]

Awesome. I am thinking about building it in that spot by the water near the starter area.

[fluid sapphire]

there are 4 starter areas, but i am gonna make an educated guess and guess that you mean this spot

#screenshots message

[scenic mirage]

i built my first coal in north west corner of the map

[fluid sapphire]

i think most first time players pick grass fields because of the way the areas are described by the game

i know i did

for grass fields, this is like the top spot

[hybrid ridge]

thx
im thinking 30 bal drives/min will be enough, even tho thatd take days to build

[fluid sapphire]

you are crazy if you can build that in days, that seems nuts

[hybrid ridge]

weeks* mb
if i kill my sleep schedule then maybe

manifold will save me so much time

[scenic mirage]

bal drives?

[fluid sapphire]

the single most complex item in the game

[scenic mirage]

ah

tier 9?

[hybrid ridge]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

phase 5 elevator part, yes

[hybrid ridge]

oh wait
i need 15k sam/min

and the maximum is 10200/min
gotta use the mk5 miner mod ig

[scenic mirage]

converter 😎

[mortal ginkgo]

sloop dem constructors

[scenic mirage]

jk idek if they even work like that

[hybrid ridge]

power:
also i hate impure nodes so die /j

[mortal ginkgo]

RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

[hybrid ridge]

get ready for my mk5 miner (600/min from impure nodes)

[mortal ginkgo]

Woaw.

[lofty forge]

have you tried satisfactory tools the website?

[hybrid ridge]

scim*

yes cuz thatd take ~250gw and im producing 300gw

[reef basin]

scim's calculator is pretty bad

hence why you were asked about SFTools

[scenic mirage]

sounds like a quick problem that should only take a week straight of 12 hour sessions

[hybrid ridge]

i mean i got enough power so why bother

[scenic mirage]

oh my b read it the other way around 😭

[gentle lion]

Hey all scanned first hard drive , rescan or alternate copper rotor or iron wire

[lofty forge]

SCIM basic calculation gives ore values that exceeds the map limit?

[reef basin]

whichever one you like more

[lofty forge]

35000 sam??? what

[scenic mirage]

if you dont like either, you can also just not pick something and leave it. it'll be left out of future hard drive scans

[hybrid ridge]

satisfactory tools in question
Unfortunately we couldn't calculate any result.
This can be due to many things: missing resource required for the production line, not enough resources for the requested amount, disabled recipes required for the product, etc.
and i cant remove this check (i can easily double the mining rate of anything)

[reef basin]

what are you making?

[hybrid ridge]

30 bal drives lmao

got nothing else to do

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
one step closer to 5 nuclear pasta/min 🙏

[gentle lion]

I'm 3 days in didn't know if one was better or not since in very early game still

[scenic mirage]

what would currently be more useful to you? pick that recipe

[hybrid ridge]

rookie numbers

[reef basin]

the error means there isn't enough resources to make it, you need to enable alts or something

[scenic mirage]

this is my first save and i havent made a single nuclear pasta yet 😭

[reef basin]

with all alts enabled - https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=JdL9jWPlTEJYL9aYBNml

[hybrid ridge]

i have a mod for a mk5 miner so double every max resource rate

[reef basin]

then change it in Items, Input

[fluid sapphire]

650 refineries for copper ingots 💀

[hybrid ridge]

ohh thx

[peak umbra]

Yep that one. It isn’t my first world, but I really just like the aesthetics of the grasslands

[hybrid ridge]

fym refineries

pure copper ingots or what

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

so do i, always finding reasons to go back and build more there

[hybrid ridge]

efficiency > beauty

[brazen coral]

Couldn't they make it where trains also have tanker cars that carry fluids. Just a different approach.

[scenic mirage]

👀 youre not gonna believe this

[leaden turret]

they do

[fluid sapphire]

all my factories clock at 100%, and they dont look like anything crazy, just OK

#screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Satisfactory Tools is my go-to

[lofty forge]

woag thats a lot. 10 particle accelerators

[scenic mirage]

🙏 hopefully my power can handle it

should be ab 22k for it all i think

im making 98k and my max consumption rn is 52k

[hybrid ridge]

fuel?

[brazen coral]

Oh okay I saw that It was only ones that had inventory slots on them, didn't say it had anything different xD

[scenic mirage]

ye

havent tried turbo or nitro or rocket

[hybrid ridge]

rocket hopefully

also turbo is better

just some nitric acid and a heavy power boost

[scenic mirage]

nah my next goal is nuclear

[lofty forge]

flat calculation would give 5000-15000 mws. changes depending on sloop and oc

[hybrid ridge]

you will hate it but its fun at the same time

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

oh woops i missed the FMF part 😭

[reef basin]

why are people trying to invent new units lol

mws is like mili[nothing]second 😄

[brazen coral]

I should be almost ready to make turbo fuel once I get the setup down for that. Just need more encased steel beams

To at least run the mark IV lines

[cunning lily]

The lake in the west with coal... is it possible to drown in it? I have a zip line that basically let's me cannonball into it, but I always parachute away just in case.

[scenic mirage]

if i deconstruct my space elevator do i get the parts back

[white dawn]

Nah, no drowning mechanic; you'll float to the surface

[lofty forge]

i just meant it as "MW's". now that im reading it again it seems like "megawatts a second"

[scenic mirage]

its just MW

[lofty forge]

no plural?

[reef basin]

megawatts aren't per second or anything, it's just a reading at single point in time

[reef basin]

you don't put plural into SI units

if it's multiple megawatts, it's still MW

because MWs is megawattsecond which is a different unit

[white dawn]

preeeecious megawattses

[whole fable]

Ok so I haven't played since well before 1.0. I'm looking to make some blueprints now that I unlocked them. Do I build the blueprint designer and then build what I want on top of it and it saves that?

Interesting. Not very big

[leaden turret]

there's bigger ones

[reef basin]

they are designed so that you build small blueprints that you connect together like puzzle pieces

[white dawn]

(Though only up to 6x6 in the vanilla game. Although I say "only" -- that's actually pretty huge in practice)

But yeah, definitely designed for you to make smaller modular things, rather than big ol' factories all at once

[whole fable]

Was hoping to copy my rotor build and rebuild it where I'm making motors but I guess I build from scratch on top of the blueprint thing

[white dawn]

Basically anything you find yourself building frequently (manifold hookups for machines, decorative elements, etc) are good Blueprint targets

[whole fable]

That makes sense, a blueprint for a couple smelters, one for a few constructors, etc

[white dawn]

Or other stuff like combat "panic" bunkers in case you run across an unexpected nuke hog or something. :D

(Although I suppose for a Nuke Hog their radiation would probably get to you regardless)

[whole fable]

I'm terrified to know of the existence of a nuke hog

[fluid sapphire]

thats how i do it, and its certainly one way, but you can also make small processing chains in there, like something that takes a small amount of iron and makes a small amount of rotors

[white dawn]

It's an experience you're unlikely to forget!

[leaden turret]

🪂
🏃‍♀️
⬛

⬛
⬛

[white dawn]

(Saying "nuke hog" might be slightly misleading actually; "rad hog" would be more appropriate)

[leaden turret]

cough ||johnny|| cough

[leaden turret]

rad hog sounds too 90s

[whole fable]

Picked the game up on console and trying to figure out what's the best way to do stuff with a controller. I'm thinking a manifold blueprint sounds ideal

[fluid sapphire]

(rows of )machines have different spacing for ports

[whole fable]

So a constructor manifold, assembler manifold, etc

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'll generally have blueprints for pre-manifolded groups of machines. However many will fit in my current blueprinter, and then I often also do a single-machine version so I can pad them out without having to dismantle

[fluid sapphire]

at that point you are better off building blueprints that include the machines themselves

[whole fable]

Fair

[white dawn]

I tend to go kind of wild and make 4 variations based on what "direction" I want to manifold things, both input and output

[whole fable]

I need to remember how to manifold

I'm doing perfect splits on stuff right now

[white dawn]

[S]: Splitter | [M]: Merger | [B]: Building

              [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [Output]
               ^        ^        ^        ^
               |        |        |        |
              [B]      [B]      [B]      [B]
               ^        ^        ^        ^
               |        |        |        |
[Source] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S]

The main downside to manifolds is that it can take the system a little while to "even out" -- it'll take a bit of time before all the input buffers fill up and everything starts getting the rates that it needs. Though you can bypass that by pre-filling the machines' input buffers, if you're able to and feel like it

[fluid sapphire]

stuff like this, i have loads of variants of these for different machines, you can also bake power connectors into the blueprints for easy daisy chaining

#screenshots message

[whole fable]

I usually just power on each section 1 by 1 so they build up

As I build

[fluid sapphire]

ya, all good, loads of ways to do it

[wild lotus]

What's the best build you guys have seen?

[reef basin]

a constructor

[brazen coral]

I've run into a couple of the nuke hogs, Best bet is ranged attacks or encase them in a one by one square

You'll know you see them when they have a green looking stink-aura around them xD

[abstract heron]

@hybrid ridge did it crash the game

[hybrid ridge]

took 3 minutes but no

also all these foundations were slightly underwater (like 0.3m) and i had to do everything again

[abstract heron]

When I do big platform sizes the game lags a little when it’s making them

[brazen coral]

It also does that when deconstructing as well

Most of the time whenever you have an overflow inventory and it puts it into a box

[hybrid ridge]

yk i have a rx 580

[abstract heron]

I have nivida 5080ti

[hybrid ridge]

bros rich

[abstract heron]

And i7k 78003d 32gb of ram

If I want to at 100% all on my of my I’ll have 200fps or 250fps all on ultra and lumen on

[hybrid ridge]

40 fps on low

30 fps on windows and 40 on linux with proton

[lofty forge]

ah, alright. it feels so wrong to say mw tho. i will write mws from time to time and i ultimately dont really care.

[fluid sapphire]

the unholy intel and amd collab

[lofty forge]

the holograms prolly take a lot more resources too.

[hybrid ridge]

unreal engines trash

[stable prairie]

Interesting

[lofty forge]

UE5 is not that optimized on its own. satisfactory still runs very well for what it is tho

[stable prairie]

I let the game idle overnight and my power consumption went from 1,300 to 1,600MW

[reef basin]

you don't put plural in other units either

you don't do 50 kms, you do 50 km (kilometers). You don't do 40 GBs, you do 40 GB (gigabytes). You don't do 50 ss, you do 50 s (seconds)

[stable prairie]

I had to break down and place 8 additional coal generators to keep up with my consumption demand, and it's rapidly dropping

[ivory condor]

the engine is fine when properly optimized for, satisfactory is a good example of a properly optimized ue5, there are much worse games that much worse optimization, look at monster hunter wilds, seriously hell you need FG just to get 1080p 60 fps, nuts

there really are some terribly optimized games out there, this game is a gem by comparison

[stable prairie]

Runs mostly great, but still super buggy though

[ivory condor]

whats super buggy about this game

[stable prairie]

Crazy I had to place all those coal generators to now not need them at all cause my consumption dropped from 1,600MW to 300MW

[stable prairie]

I've encountered over 2 dozen bugs since console release

[white dawn]

It's not unusual to end Phase 2 with anywhere from 32-64 coal gens, btw

[lofty forge]

are you on console?

[stable prairie]

PlayStation players haven't had any, but it's insane on Xbox

[peak umbra]

If this game supported Lumen I don’t think many people would use it lol

[stable prairie]

But with the optimization I've been doing, it's crazy how consumption rose so high with all those backup power stoages

[ivory condor]

this game does support lumen?

the feature is there and you can turn it on anytime

[peak umbra]

Really??? I couldn’t find it!

[hybrid ridge]

what does that even mean

[white dawn]

The game's got Lumen / Global Illumination as an option in the settings, though you're right in that it's technically unsupported (and I believe it's mostly software)

[ivory condor]

yeah its under video settings graphic settings

[white dawn]

The game's lighting isn't really designed with Lumen in mind, though some people really like playing with it

[hybrid ridge]

yeah global illumination is here

[ivory condor]

yep for example fog and lumen can be terrible, thats one example of the lighting not being designed for lumen in mind

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that idle crafting is paying microtransactions to your energy supplier

[stable prairie]

New Satisfactory crisis, different day apparently

[ivory condor]

lumen in this game can be hit and miss, because in some instances isnt designed with it in mind

[stable prairie]

Power is gonna be today's problem. I'm blowing through coal faster than 2 trucks on one depot can supply

[white dawn]

I'd highly recommend finding one of the spots on the map where you have 3-4 coal nodes right next to largeish bodies of water. Ideal spots for coal gens, and you don't have to transport any material anywhere

[stable prairie]

Just weird how it was 300MW of usage at 1AM, and now it's bouncing up to 1,600MW at 1PM

Nothing was changed whatsoever

[hybrid ridge]

inflation

[fluid sapphire]

that means you have inefficiency somewhere

[stable prairie]

Everything is an inefficiency

[fluid sapphire]

fluctuation of supply/demand somewhere in your production

[white dawn]

Idle machines only consume 0.1MW; if you had a bunch of machines sitting there with yellow lights at 1AM which are now running full-time at 1PM, that could account for it

[stable prairie]

I lost power reserve somewhere around 4AM and somehow my industrial storage tower filled

Truck depots only work powered, so it doesn't make sense that they were filling the storage without any input

Just another one of this game's daily great mysteries I suppose

[fluid sapphire]

there is 100% something in the way you have designed your systems that explains whats happening

[stable prairie]

Power consumption is working as if every line is operating all at once, but I've only got 2/4 floors with items being constructed

I've got 2 entire idle floors

I deliberately funneled all my ores through depots so I could be more efficient with power supply, it can only sort out the items so fast and send them where they need to go, and it has to go through the entire stack of ores before it can switch to a different one, effectively compartmentalizing my system

[fluid sapphire]

things that dont get mixed in the first place have no need to be sorted

that sounds unnecessarily complicated but sure

[white dawn]

I can all but guarantee that you have machines active which are consuming the amount of power your graphs are telling you. I've not seen anyone ever come in with a save with "mystery" consumption that wasn't explicable

The game's got bugs, sure, but I'm not personally aware of anything which would cause the power graphs to be outright wrong

[fluid sapphire]

we would have seen tons of reports if that was the case

[stable prairie]

I'm going to all the floors on my factory rn and all I'm seeing operating are my the iron trees and the backlogged caterium I have for the sink

[white dawn]

(Granted, if you're on console and there's some weird console bug causing that, then obvs we don't have a lot of historical data to go on there. Feels unlikely though. :)

[stable prairie]

I've got a server reset in 2 minutes, so we'll see if that fixes things

[mortal ginkgo]

this game's weakest point currently is multiplayer and servers etc

[fluid sapphire]

do you have power storage? if you do, you could charge it and turn off machines until you hit 0

[stable prairie]

I'm playing offline btw

[mortal ginkgo]

devs said that they will double down on server stuff

playing offline in a server might have the same issues

[stable prairie]

I've got 10 power storages set up in series that are actually charging currently

[fluid sapphire]

just an idea to track down rogue consumption

[stable prairie]

No matter what you do you have to play in a server

[abstract heron]

Ya and the holograms too a few like train station make it go up having it out

[mortal ginkgo]

huh...

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's sort of an internal 'server' even in singleplayer, though they tightened things up somewhat for the 1.0 release. Singleplayer is more singleplayer now than it was pre-1.0

[stable prairie]

I started a save in offline mode, strictly singleplayer, but you still have to deal with server resets regardless

[white dawn]

But there's still a serverish thing embedded in your game, and playing for 24hr or whatever will trigger a restart as if it was a server

[stable prairie]

That'd have to mean all saves are server operated

[mortal ginkgo]

I am sure there is some wonkiness going on with a "server that you can play offline" and not "singleplayer save".

[stable prairie]

Server resets occur once every 12 hours

[whole fable]

Looking at your screenshot there, do people usually just criss-cross the belts when doing a manifold on say a Foundry or is it pretty easy to blueprint a section that's raised up to avoid that?

[stable prairie]

Now that it's reset, my power consumption is only at half capacity ~600MW

[white dawn]

I suppose I'd been making an assumption that the I've got a server reset in 2 minutes comment had meant just the notice that gets popped up even in singleplayer; could be that was an improper assumption. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

even when not BPing I dont use criss-crossing. Not needed as there are many ways to avoid that.

[white dawn]

You said offline -- were you singleplayer, or is there a server involved, btw?

[mortal ginkgo]

he is playing on a server.. while being offline.. I assume its his server...?

its like having zero lag but still multiplayer

[stable prairie]

It's just the weird system they have set up. I've only played singleplayer and offline cause I don't have gamepass

[mortal ginkgo]

I know from my private-WoW-server days

[white dawn]

A lot of folks use conveyor lifts attached to one of the inputs to stagger things that way. (Other folks do the manifold under the floor and have "cleaner"-looking lifts going into floor holes, so that things look a little nicer on topside)

[white dawn]

So you're singleplayer on console?

[fluid sapphire]

some of my earlier stuff has this swirly design, newer stuff uses lifts

#screenshots message

[stable prairie]

I am

[mortal ginkgo]

for some reason I like it.

[fluid sapphire]

its weirdly nostalgic for me hehe

[stable prairie]

That's so much cleaner and somehow more complex than my compartmentalization system

[fluid sapphire]

what is

[stable prairie]

What was posted here

[south sinew]

It's pretty easy to raise it, but also common for people to put the belts underneath

[white dawn]

Ah, okay. So yeah, we've definitely got less experience with diagnosing console issues. It still feels weird that the power graphs would get "wrong" like that, but obvs we have little historical precedent to go by.

Would maybe be worth posting it to the Questions site, with as much info as you can!

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[stable prairie]

That's probably why there's server resets every 12 hours, it seems to fix weird issues like that

[fluid sapphire]

aah, what looks complex about it :p

[white dawn]

Sort of; there's definitely stuff that needs to get cleared out. Though as I said before, we've never seen reports of outright wrong power graphs in the past. But hey: new platform, new problems! :) I'd recommend reporting it just in case. :)

[stable prairie]

The fact you have so many splitters and still managed to keep everything perfectly spaced, neat, and compact

[white dawn]

There's the "reset" thing even on PC, so folks have had long-running singleplayer sessions for quite awhile now

[fluid sapphire]

i actually got roasted for my not-so-compact designs at one point haha

[stable prairie]

There must be some diminishing returns towards the end of that belt, right?

[fluid sapphire]

nope, its this scheme, thats the portion that does the modular frames

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=m46OStR88bmXxoN2HPUK

100% efficient

[white dawn]

That's just a usual "manifold." It does take some time to "warm up" to full functionality, as you've suspected. At first, when first turning things on, the machines at the end will be starving for awhile. But once the earlier machines have their input buffers fill up, and the belts start to back up, everything will be getting exactly what it needs

(Assuming the feeder belt is providing enough material for all machines in the manifold, at least)

[fluid sapphire]

indeed, if you provide an amount, and the manifold uses that amount, it all works out perfectly

the length matters not, only that in/out amounts match

[stable prairie]

I might have to try out those systems if I focus on mass producing instead of having one machine per item

[white dawn]

Yeah, manifolds are the most straightforward way to start building larger, for sure

Some folks continue to like building "balancers" anyway (where each machine gets exactly what it needs right away), but that does tend to get more complex as you get more and more machines involved

With manifolds all you have to worry about is "am I feeding this line of machines enough material" and you're done (with only a single splitter per machine, to boot)

[south sinew]

they do take aggravatingly long to work but are at least quick and easy to build, especially if you use an autoconnected blueprint

[white dawn]

You can bypass the warmup time by pre-filling the input buffers, of course, though whether or not that's worth it is up to you. :) (And of course in some cases you may not have the material available to do so)

[fluid sapphire]

as always, the warm-up time to manifolds is overblown, just go do something else, you dont have to babysit your manifolds

i will die on this hill

[stable prairie]

Is it built on the grid?

[fluid sapphire]

is what built on the grid?

[mortal ginkgo]

or just manually fill up some stuff, or use smart splitters to fill up machines faster.

I mean, there is only one reason to use balancers and it is at Phase 1 with biomass burners.

I kek at all balancer defenders. They are kek worthy individuals.

[stable prairie]

Your manifold system there

[whole fable]

Ok yeah I'm looking at something like this and trying to figure out how to sort of complete the blueprint with the belts coming from the lifted splitter #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Do you plan to level up to Normal in the future?

Normal Limestone Node

[stable prairie]

Is limestone all that important?

[fluid sapphire]

the start of a new print should have the belt stubs, that can connect to belt-less stubs on the end side, alternatively, you can have stubs on both ends, but sometimes that can get wonky

[silk ocean]

or you could move to Depleted Limestone Node xD

[fluid sapphire]

balancers are a necessity for some train systems for max throughput

[silk ocean]

Relatively xD

[stable prairie]

I'm excited for trains even though I know it's gonna be a pain to setup

[fluid sapphire]

there is a learning curve, but trains are fantastic

[stable prairie]

It'd definitely be more efficient than the tractor system

I've got 6 tractors running

[silk ocean]

Kinda no nuclear, foundations and other stuff without it (unless can be worked around with alt recipes)

[stable prairie]

There's a really bad choke point I have with pathing that I can't fix easily unless I build one half of the path over a mountain

[fluid sapphire]

trains have huge, huge upsides - the best thing for long distance high throughput, reusability of rail, AND they require no fuel, use electricity instead

[stable prairie]

I've got a backlog of about 10k concrete, so foundations are really nothing for me

[silk ocean]

Do belts need it, I forget

[stable prairie]

So I will definitely need to focus on going geothermal until better options arise

[fluid sapphire]

in the process of expanding my rail network right now, its kind of a pain, but it'll be lit when its done, the section running through the middle and on the cliffside

#screenshots message

[stable prairie]

It's really cool how that looks like a city

I've got all my factories built into one warehouse type building

Gotta farm tickets to get the vanity items in the shop

[fluid sapphire]

guess it kinda does

#screenshots message

shop is packed with great stuff

not just vanity, but all sorts of utilities

[stable prairie]

I should go on a murder spree to farm DNA for the shop, it's the best way to get tickets

[lost oasis]

guys i got mk2 pipes now how much generators i can power up with 3 water extractors when with mk1 pipes i could make 8coal gen with 3 water extractors

[stable prairie]

I've been pumping in so much excess materials that I need 120k items just to get a single ticket

[white dawn]

Fuel generators will tell you how much resources they need if you open up their control panel (and buildings like extractors will tell you how much they produce). There's also the wiki at https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/

[fluid sapphire]

double slooped DNA capsule, single best way to get early game coupons

[white dawn]

Honestly if you've already unlocked mk2 pipes, investing in more coal power probably isn't your best use of time. Fuel will scale out much more easily

[stable prairie]

I've been manually crafting the capsules cause of how few parts I've been getting

[reef basin]

which pipes you have doesn't change how many gens you can power

[fluid sapphire]

alien tech in MAM, production amplifier, then somersloop both a machine making protein and the next step, the capsule

1 dead animal makes 4 dna capsules (1 remains to 4 capsules)

or more if you kill the bigger ones

[stable prairie]

Depends on how your piping is set up. If it's all in series, it'll run out of water pretty quickly towards the final generator

[reef basin]

but the question is how many gens can you power

[stable prairie]

That reminds me of that giant spider I took on for a somersloop last night, it gave me 6 parts

[lost oasis]

with 3water extractors with mark 2 pipes

[stable prairie]

Depends on the flow rates of the pipes. Mark 2 is 600, and with max power shards, a coal generator uses 113m³ of water

[brazen coral]

I'd rather have fuel over coal cuz then coal goes into steel production and gunpowder

[stable prairie]

You should be able to run only 5 generators with max power shards consistently if you have them all in line from one singular mark 2 pipe

[brazen coral]

Unfortunately I don't have Mark II pipes yet but getting them after trains

[reef basin]

which is still under mk1 pipe limit, hence my point about pipes not limiting you in how many coal gens you can power

[stable prairie]

It'll come down to how you set the pipes up though

[reef basin]

for sure. But won't change the answer

3 water extractors can always power at most 8 gens no matter the pipes. (assuming same clock speed)

[stable prairie]

You can produce 1,000 ³ of water and try to funnel it all into one pipe, limiting your water production to only 300m³ or 600m³ for a mark 2

If you spread out the extractors on a compartmentalized system, then the water can flow much better

[reef basin]

but that again wasn't the question

[stable prairie]

There's a lot of factors to answering the question

[reef basin]

how much generators i can power up with 3 water extractors
answer is 8, no matter what. (assuming same clock speed)

[stable prairie]

That's not true though, you'd have to separate every water extractor to supply 2 generators

[reef basin]

why would it not be true?

3 extractors make 360 water
360 water can feed 8 gens

[brazen coral]

Okay thank you. Is the uranium available in a minable node? Or is it just in little rocks found scattered? I've only run into the small rock formations, not the big ore reserves

[stable prairie]

If you're working with Mark 1 pipes*

[stable prairie]

The pipes can carry a maximum of 300m³/minute

[reef basin]

good thing you can build multiple pipes, the question isn't about a single pipe

[stable prairie]

That means no matter the supply, only 300m³ can come out of the pipe

[reef basin]

sure, but again, who said anything about a single pipe?

[stable prairie]

But you basically have to make separate systems for it though

[reef basin]

no

[stable prairie]

1 extractor for 2 generators

[fluid sapphire]

you just build your pipes accordingly, thats a given

[reef basin]

  G  G  G  G
E-+--+--+--+
E-+
E-+--+--+--+
  G  G  G  G

single pipe, 8 gens

[fluid sapphire]

it can be part of the same system

[spice patio]

That is pipe SEGMENT limit.
Not pipe SYSTEM limit.

[reef basin]

G  G  G  G  G  G  G  G
+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
E        E           E

also single pipe, 8 gens

[stable prairie]

This system hasn't worked for me, the ones halfway towards the end run out of water and blows a fuse

[reef basin]

then you built it wrong, because it works for all the other people

[stable prairie]

This is basically what I was trying to explain

[fluid sapphire]

thats still 3 extractors feeding 8 gens

[reef basin]

but that wasn't the question

question was how many you CAN connect

[fluid sapphire]

no sectioning needed

[reef basin]

and that setup is the same as the one above

[stable prairie]

The middle extractor in the top one is basically useless there

[zenith pecan]

The standard 8:3 i take it.

[south sinew]

no it definitely isn't

[reef basin]

no it's not? you need 3 extractors to 8 gens

[stable prairie]

I don't know how y'all don't have to deal with pipe limitations

[fluid sapphire]

thats how you deal with it, by building your segments accordingly

[reef basin]

because each pipe branch only needs to carry 180 at most?

[zenith pecan]

The middle extractor splits two ways.

[south sinew]

We do have to deal with them; we just deal with them successfully

[zenith pecan]

👍

[fluid sapphire]

its not a roast btw, if you have pipe problems, everyone's gonna chip in if you make a post in #1038092680493801533 , understanding pipes is a vital skill

[reef basin]

yeah, no bad feelings, just wanted to correct you as your replies didn't make sense/were wrong at some points

[south sinew]

uh yes to be clear, I didn't mean to roast you, pipes are tricky

[stable prairie]

I wasn't upset about it, I was just trying to convey my understanding

[reef basin]

feel free to make a thread in questions and help or something if you're confused, we can explain whatever you're not getting

[stable prairie]

No harsh feelings

[reef basin]

but answer to OP is "8 gens no matter what pipe mk (assuming same clock speed on extractors and gens)" 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

still wondering what "big" changes are coming with 1.2 with regards to fluids, i refuse to believe that its just fluid trucks

[reef basin]

fluid trucks aren't big enough?

[white dawn]

probably not much bigger than regular trucks!

[fluid sapphire]

indeed

[reef basin]

what if they make them bigger than regular trucks?

[primal obsidian]

good idea

[white dawn]

wtb fluid drones which have an internal 20m³ reservoir

[fluid sapphire]

how about trucks with flatbeds, cranes, different engine options, uhhh, missions to deliver cargo and tow other vehicles, uhhhhh

[stable prairie]

Drones sound pretty cool

[white dawn]

Perhaps the "big" changes in v1.2 will be that we'll be able to liquidize any resource, a la Dissolved Silica

Why use a belt to transfer your Iron Plates when you could use a pipe to move around Dissolved Iron Plates instead?

[leaden turret]

liquid solid biofuel

-# power sharts

[white dawn]

Satisfactory v1.2: Refinery Edition™

[stable prairie]

I'm gonna post my current coal system in #screenshots

I'm just barely breaking even on water

[reef basin]

yes please, liquid

finally giving people valid reason to complain about screws

[leaden turret]

liquid packaged diluted fuel

[leaden turret]

liquid coupons

[primal obsidian]

liquid supercomputer

[fluid sapphire]

breaking even is exactly what you want

[leaden turret]

liquid coupons is just a bidet

-# for anyone not familar, see https://lizarddoggo.com/products/defective-logistics-coupons-toilet-flush-dlc-toilet-paper-roll

[primal obsidian]

that is a good idea but what if they also made you able to drink fuilds and then you can drink uranium

[leaden turret]

liquid inhalers

[reef basin]

remove buffers, make ratio of 3 extractors to 8 coal gens

[stable prairie]

I've got to use 6w:8g to keep up with my overclocking

[reef basin]

(also next time post in #1038092680493801533 )

[stable prairie]

Buffers are bad?

[reef basin]

if you overclock the extractors same as gens, it'll work just fine

yes

no reason to have them and they often break flow and do weird things

(only reason is to buffer train platforms)

[honest sleet]

guys my dog just brought me a nuke💀

[stable prairie]

I removed them and it's working so far

[fluid sapphire]

i found the perfect spot for my train station and the manta clips through it 😠

[white dawn]

heh, eventually you get used to doublechecking for manta flight paths before getting too far along with the process. :D

Though I still forget sometimes and have to alter designs to suit

[stable prairie]

That's crazy, you wouldn't think fluid buffers would be bad

[reef basin]

why would you think they would be helpful in your case?

[stable prairie]

If I lose power, there would be enough stored water to restart the system

[reef basin]

that would be even without the buffers

[white dawn]

You can use buffers and have working systems; the main issue is that they can cause unnecessary complications and make debugging those problems that much harder, and they don't actually provide any benefit

[reef basin]

pipes and gens can hold water

[stable prairie]

I've run out of water before and had to back down to biomass to get things restarted, so I've always had buffers since

[white dawn]

(With the exception of train buffering, as mentioned, and I know some people like to keep buffers full of "emergency fuel" or whatever, in lieu of Power Storage. That'd be valid too of course, though often you'd want to keep those "offline" so they don't interfere with your running systems)

[reef basin]

if running out of water is the issue that causes the power trip, then that means that the buffer is also empty, hence the buffer is useless

[stable prairie]

It was on the buggier old save I had, maybe that was part of the problem

[fluid sapphire]

very much still in the construction site phase of building it 😉

#screenshots message

[stable prairie]

Definitely getting rid of the 3 extra extractors now

[reef basin]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[reef basin]

some good coal gen setups (some of those I've already shown to you)

[stable prairie]

My corner bend system has been pretty stable, it should hold until geothermal

I appreciate y'all's patience with me

[median rain]

I need to split ore into very specific amounts (490 into 247.5 and 242.5) and I know if I just wait for it to overflow it'll take awhile, so I was wondering if there was any easier way of doing it

[fluid sapphire]

geothermal is more like a supplement, not something dependable

[stable prairie]

That, I don't know about, but a smart splitter should split it evenly

[stable prairie]

Even large scale?

[reef basin]

not merging it at all, instead producing 247.5 and 242.5 separately

[reef basin]

especially large scale

[fluid sapphire]

no such thing as large scale geothermal, its just a bunch of wells dotted around the map, like 7(?)GW total

[median rain]

I thought smart splitters only splitted by item type, overflow, and unspecified items

[stable prairie]

All I really need is 2KW

[reef basin]

kW?

[stable prairie]

MegaWatts < KiloWatts < GigaWatts

[reef basin]

lol no

Watts -> kilowatts -> megawatts -> gigawatts

[stable prairie]

I had that backwards? My bad

[reef basin]

same as kilobytes -> megabytes -> gigabytes 🙂

[median rain]

Kilo is thousand, mega is million, giga is billion

[stable prairie]

I suppose that explains why power companies charge by the kilowatt hours

[reef basin]

but at the point where you have access to geothermal, you'll most likely have bigger power demand than 7 GW

[median rain]

Except bytes in which 1024 watts= 1 kilowatt and so on

[reef basin]

technically no

1 GB = 1000 MB
1 GiB = 1024 MB