satisfactory

[reef basin]

especially if you're not doing TF branch, batteries are great

[hard ivy]

greeny says that about everything

[wooden cradle]

yes but i recomend using concrete foundaitons

they look better in my opinion

[full thorn]

I have a pure source not too far

[dusky aspen]

i can't change materials yet

[full thorn]

Of sulfur

[ornate saffron]

It looks like a floating platform with machines on it.

The real question is do you like it. If not what would you like to add? Do you need inspiration?

[dusky aspen]

for now i wanted to build something that is working. i am rly in need of reinforced plates

cuz everything is going into space elevator parts

[ornate saffron]

I also do function over form.

[wooden cradle]

then if you have more of that then try to use the alternate:turbo heavy fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

at this stage "looking good" isn't an issue. You need to reach phase 2 so that you can have automated power, aka coal.

you will then use Awesome Sinks to get coupons to make your factory pretty (also many useful QoL items)

[ornate saffron]

Do be afraid to go up with building. The sky limit is nuts. Try and get the build to the height limit trophy

[dusky aspen]

i am on phase 2

[reef basin]

not "looking good" is never an issue

[mortal ginkgo]

focus on coal, get good power, start producing more, expanding more etc.

[deft saffron]

I haven't made rocket fuel yet so idk

[dusky aspen]

i have 600mw. it is enough for now

[mortal ginkgo]

get more

More.

MORE!

[rustic hare]

More.

[dusky aspen]

not enough time. first my factory has to grow

[somber monolith]

You don’t have to build for that trophy

[ornate saffron]

Trust...

more

[scenic mirage]

for now will not be enough in like 2 hours

[mortal ginkgo]

You can't grow factory without power. Power always comes first.

[dusky aspen]

i use 500 so it won't in like 1 hour

[mortal ginkgo]

but 600 MW is gud.

just make more.

[dusky aspen]

i alr expanded my power 1 hour ago:(

[scenic mirage]

what factories do you have rn and what are you building

[mortal ginkgo]

E X P A N D more!

[dusky aspen]

i have copper steel and iron. i am now trying to get past phase 2

[mortal ginkgo]

if you are trying to past phases as soon as possible.. looking good is hardly a matter 😛

[ornate saffron]

I love nitro rocket fuel.... but i think its too good.

[wooden cradle]

i agree so good

[mortal ginkgo]

makes things too easy, shouldn't exist in my humble hot take opinion

[deft saffron]

i have found it better to make your power huge earlier on so that you spend less time expanding it later/avoid blowing a fuse

I think by the end of phase 2 I had 32 coal generators running

[dusky aspen]

first i need to find a way to get my steel to my iron. it is 300m and i do not want to use belts

[ornate saffron]

Trucks?

[wooden cradle]

i usally have 64coal gens before phase 2

[deft saffron]

use foundations to make a flat road, then use a truck for the time being. You can just turn it into a train later

[dusky aspen]

i do not have them

[deft saffron]

truck/tractor same thing

[ornate saffron]

Then conveyor or your inventory is your options

[deft saffron]

or use the factory cart LOL

[wooden cradle]

cause its so anoying i still consume like 3/4 of that

[scenic mirage]

factory carts 👀

[mortal ginkgo]

browwwwwwwwww

[runic sage]

how do i make a pipe be built as a certain color scheme

[ornate saffron]

Fun fact. When a factory cart docks with a truck station it will accept fuel but it just ..... disappears

[deft saffron]

I'm still on my first playthrough

[dusky aspen]

can i automate it?

[scenic mirage]

yea

[dusky aspen]

k. but how?

[hard ivy]

trust me, you want to use belts

[wooden cradle]

thats kinda good actually if u dont need more than a 32gens cause im a perfectionist

[deft saffron]

i sold my soul to fuel generators and the entire southeast crater region is just a massive fuel generator blanket

[ornate saffron]

X to bring up customizer the right click the color you wish to use. Then select pipe

[scenic mirage]

you record the path and automate it

[somber monolith]

What kinda fuel

[wooden cradle]

how much MV does it make

[dusky aspen]

can it take items in it?

[deft saffron]

I'm 90% sure it also does not actually require fuel to be inserted. It'll just go

[scenic mirage]

yeah. one whole stack of an item.

[runic sage]

ty

[ornate saffron]

It doesnt need fuel at all. But it'll take fuel

[dusky aspen]

k. don't i need a truck station?

[deft saffron]

Using turbofuel i was getting about 30k total out of them before I set up nuclear power

[ornate saffron]

You do

[dusky aspen]

so i will also have a tractor

[scenic mirage]

if you wanna automate loading and unloading

[wooden cradle]

i dont really recomend nuclear for ur first playtrough i recomend just to upgrade fuel plant and with good revepies you can make in the blue crater lake about 120 000MV without augmenters and that should be enough and nuclear is really complex and meltdown isnt the thing you want u know

[deft saffron]

its a little late for that 💀 i spent many hours tweaking it until it was consistent and stable

making about 120k total power

[wooden cradle]

bruh

[clear aspen]

Oops got a bna song on time to let it repeat for 10 hours

[wooden cradle]

did u had meltdown?

or some problems

[deft saffron]

nah I would just check it and see the reactors are offline and have to diagnose it

[ornate saffron]

BNA?

Banana, Nutella, and apples?

[clear aspen]

Tis an anime

[scenic mirage]

i have like 100k Mw rn (98k ish) is that enough

[little shale]

Is there a way to display what the building is doing or building without having to manually check them?

[leaden turret]

this be @void gorge except digimon

[wooden cradle]

fuel or nuclear

[ornate saffron]

Berserk, Ninja scroll, akira?

[clear aspen]

Brand new animal

[leaden turret]

ninja scroll is two words

[deft saffron]

signs

map markers

[scenic mirage]

fuel, i wanna do nuclear but i did all the planning earlier and its a lot 😭

[wooden cradle]

and that should be enough if ure doing nothing extreme like somerslooping PAC at 250%

[clear aspen]

I’m pretty sure ninja stars is made by the same ppl

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758 and yelling over discord

[ornate saffron]

You say that like it isn't normal

[deft saffron]

you need to be prepared to spend hours and hours getting nuclear to work properly. You have to make sure your throughput of fuel rods and waste conversion is enough that the reactors are never shut off

[wooden cradle]

like i did it

[mortal ginkgo]

Putting Signs on them.

Also in delete-mode, you can see whats inside a building so you can get an idea what you are making

[wooden cradle]

and it used like 30 000 MV

[scenic mirage]

yeah i think id just go to plutonium rods and then sink

[wooden cradle]

but the processing is so long on nuclear

[reef basin]

@hard ivy another unit (though this time technically valid one) 😛

[dusky aspen]

is it worth making rods into coupons and buying modular frames?

[ornate saffron]

Isnt nuclear the same as aluminum production? Just scaled up. You need to balance the inputs and out puts

[deft saffron]

in my honest opinion, this is the best route. Idk how ficsonium works as I'm not there yet but I do know you can't sink ficsonium rods

[mortal ginkgo]

no. always automate.

[deft saffron]

fused?

[mortal ginkgo]

unless you truly and hastily need them etc

[dusky aspen]

i have it automated. it is 2 frames per 5 minutes

[dusky aspen]

i just want to finish phase 2

[mortal ginkgo]

automate MORE

[wooden cradle]

dont go ficsonium it consumes too many materials just sink plutonium

[reef basin]

the lore is explained throughout the game

[dusky aspen]

i spent 2 hours building my iron factory

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman, the stuff that phase 3 needs is ridiculous considering your current setup.

I think you want to "get over it asap" but note that phase 3 won't be pretty for you

[zenith rock]

then good, i will delete the question if its a narrtive driven game. don want any spoilers

[dusky aspen]

i think it would be easier to automate on phase 3

[deft saffron]

not really. You can have some backup on aluminum and it's fine.

Have backup in your nuclear plant and you get dips in power and that's how fuses get blown

[mortal ginkgo]

you think wrong to a degree but you do you

mk3 belts and mk2 miners are your best friend at phase 2

[scenic mirage]

ya im still phase 4 so i cant even see the machines i need to use all that

[mortal ginkgo]

you need to have a really well established setup of producing stuff to a fair degree or lese phase 3 buildings will just make you do it anyway

[deft saffron]

I was never going to, took a lot just to convert to plutonium rods and sometimes the effort is just not worth the result

[dusky aspen]

why is each coupon getting more expensive? hell naw. i am not buying parts for them

[mortal ginkgo]

to get you make more coupons.

and EXPAND.

[ornate saffron]

You owe your soul to the company store

[deft saffron]

I'm on the very tail end of phase 4. Currently setting up production of fused modular frames, then setting up automation of project assembly and then it's phase 5 for me

[dusky aspen]

actually. i have 2 automated rods. i think i can get one to make coupons

[mortal ginkgo]

you do you my dear beloved awesomely amazing brotherman

[proper hound]

Coupon price rises exponentially, so yes, buying parts/consumables with them is not a good idea, unless you are speedrunning for points.

[deft saffron]

@dusky aspen the worst mistake in the game is to rush

[dusky aspen]

okay

[mortal ginkgo]

very true

game is not even forcing you to progress (aside from phase 1 with non automated power)

[deft saffron]

I only ever spent coupons on parts for fused modular frames so that I could remodel some existing factories that really needed it

[scenic mirage]

i have FMF, turbo motors, and supercomputers

[pliant gale]

50 hours in and still triyng to complete tier 3 elevator

[scenic mirage]

i needa (re)do RCUs so i can get pressure conversion cubes

[deft saffron]

i fell asleep while afk in phase 1 and came back to find power offline with 5 biofuel to my name

[deft saffron]

yeah I'll need to expand on RCU production but cba at the moment. That's a phase 5 project

[mortal ginkgo]

you know if you got a big phase 1 factory that is fully shutdown, 0.1MW each factory spends can still eat biofuel pretty fast 😄

I had to manually cut power when I was decorating just because of that

[deft saffron]

sometimes I went off exploring, came back and minutes later the power is down and I forgot to grab wood/leaves

[mortal ginkgo]

I stopped using wood etc quickly after making rebar. corpse -> protein -> biomass is the best thing ever

[deft saffron]

I have had little need for biofuel except every once in a while for the chainsaw, and I have a big backlog of wood and leaves from clearing spaces for factories

[green fiber]

As always, the answer is buff nuclear

[scenic mirage]

nobelisks are quite decent at clearing too

[deft saffron]

ficsit does not waste

[ornate saffron]

Ima fan of the cluster nob

[leaden turret]

💪⚛️

[scenic mirage]

i dont even have nobelisks automated, i prob should do that tho

im ab to start automating nuclear pasta too

[zenith rock]

hello quick question does the crafting item really needs to be in my inv it doesnt work like if its in crate it works too?

[ornate saffron]

It needs to be in your inventory

Or

|| cloud storage||

[scenic mirage]

great use of foundations

[primal obsidian]

more

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots message why is the map you can build on so small?
there is literally a map 5x bigger than the playable map

[primal obsidian]

the map is pretty big though

[scenic mirage]

the map was hand built, its not randomly generated. one (or a team idk) of the devs was responsible for designing each little part of the map

[dusky aspen]

ohhh okay

[leaden turret]

so it looks pretty when you look out to sea

[dusky aspen]

so that is why it looks so good?

[primal obsidian]

way better then my start factory

[leaden turret]

that is why there are so many eggplants

[primal obsidian]

mine was 10x10 with 3 floors for some reason

[leaden turret]

who's gonna stop the head of the world design team from putting eggplants in the game?

[primal obsidian]

dont know why I decided that instead of expanding

[placid comet]

In that case why not just use the water on site? Whatever you need it for must be easier to transport to the water than vice versa

[ornate saffron]

You did expand though. Vertically

[primal obsidian]

yeah but I was in the grasslands with like infinite space

[leaden turret]

because Yazz says so #off-topic-media message

(yes I've been trying to make that a meme within the community for 5 years now)

[ornate saffron]

Sure, Im sorry you regret your choices. But your choice was still valid ^-^

[leaden turret]

unless your choice is banana on pizza

[primal obsidian]

I should start a new run where I can only build factories 10x10 and have to go up for everything

[ornate saffron]

Pickle on pizza

Fight me

[primal obsidian]

conveyor lift hell

[leaden turret]

why you putting your pickle on pizza

[leaden turret]

@grave burrow has a video for that

[ornate saffron]

Its the real dill

[primal obsidian]

ok

[scenic mirage]

a certain someone whos name starts with a J has a video about a conveyor tornado

[leaden turret]

anyone who thinks Josh makes a mess of Satisfactory hasn't seen what BLAndrew does to Satisfactory

[scenic mirage]

vid link?

[primal obsidian]

I watched that guys videos and that’s the reason I bought satisfactory

[scenic mirage]

same

[primal obsidian]

well it was like a year or 2 after I watched that video

went into the game with only the knowledges from that one video

[zenith rock]

guys guys, is portable miner limited, my iron ore miner just dissapered

ok nvm

it was in another node

[leaden turret]

occlusion culling lag?

[zenith rock]

no lag it was in another node.

[leaden turret]

"dude where's my glasses"

checks forehead

"nvm"

[scenic mirage]

i be looking for my phone w my flashlight sometimes 😭

[placid comet]

I'm guessing you're new. This is a good time to give you the heads up. Stay organized or you'll be running back and forth a lot

[leaden turret]

I have a black phone in a black phone case and frequently put it down on black furniture.

[scenic mirage]

how tf

[primal obsidian]

what did I just watch

[mystic oriole]

I wear my glasses all the time so no that doesn't happen to me

[primal obsidian]

im so confused

[zenith rock]

Playing foundry and this at same time and for the first time and am a casual player so no organisation for most part. you can see what torture am i subjecting myself towards.

[scenic mirage]

literal nuclear spaghetti

[leaden turret]

LGIO is QA as entertainment
BLAndrew575 is QA as srs bzns

[scenic mirage]

srs bzns?

[primal obsidian]

im so glad someone told me what a manifold was otherwise all my factories would be spaghetti

[leaden turret]

serious business

[flint grail]

Bruh, wtf is going on? I have crashed 4 times today

[scenic mirage]

computer issue?

[flint grail]

Nope, computer was restarted while I was asleep

[primal obsidian]

well are you making a full stop at stop signs

maybe that’s the issue

[ornate saffron]

Im doing good. Ive only broke. Down into tears once today

[flint grail]

It's the same error every time

[ornate saffron]

Ohhh the game.....

[scenic mirage]

wipe those tears and get back to work pioneer. theres no time for that, think of the puppies and kittens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoikbq9JgxM
madlad did HMF with screws???

[flint grail]

What's weird is I'm crashing a few seconds after fixing my hotbar

[scenic mirage]

hmm. try not doing that? should fix the issue 😄

[ornate saffron]

Im at work. That's the problem. I should be making the factory... more

[scenic mirage]

have you tried expanding your power network?

[ornate saffron]

I got lots of power i need to start building my ironworks but instead I'm at work waiting

[royal spoke]

booyah

[reef basin]

why would be HMF with screws bad?

[scenic mirage]

idek i rlly like the heavy encased frames recipe, avoid all screws

[reef basin]

why is "avoid screws" relevant? 🤔 it's just another item

[livid geyser]

I think I finally did it

Fuel factory wise.

[scenic mirage]

to make 10 HMF/min id need 1020 screws/min or 1200 screws/min

or i could avoid that completely

i dont have mk6 conveyors

[reef basin]

you don't need mk6 conveyors

[livid geyser]

Everything is working. May set up another fuel generator as I think I can boost power even more. But ayyy, nearly four hours spent on this little factory, lmao.

[reef basin]

with steel screws, you clock constructor to 92.3077% and put it in front of the HMF machine, hook it with a belt. Need mk3 at most

[hard ivy]

expensive

[clear aspen]

Hello peoples

[reef basin]

subjective

[hard ivy]

when it costs more of every single resource, power and machiens, it's no longer subjective

[scenic mirage]

idk if im just misunderstanding what smart splitters do but i have a sushi belt with the stuff coming off my train. alumin casing, sheets, and supercomputers. i set the smart splitter to split sheets to the right and "any undefined" to center but its sending sheets down the center

[reef basin]

it doesn't though?

[runic bolt]

ITS SNOWING OUTSIDDDEEEE

winter is here

[reef basin]

(you know there are two recipes for HMF with screws, and there's also other recipes in the chain that need to be specified)

[shy mulch]

On a scale of "this is a bit dumb, it's gonna take a long time" to "that is borderline insanity why are you doing this to yourself", how plausible is it to complete phase 5 with 6GW with no handcrafting or handfeeding

[scenic mirage]

lucky, here in denmark its just borderline freezing. all the plants are frosting but no snow or anything 🙁

[green fiber]

Sounds like tons of underclocking

[clear aspen]

How’s everyone doing?

[scenic mirage]

alright, would be better with a nuclear fact i think

[shy mulch]

Today I walked 20k steps, and got rained on twice, and a bit of hailstones, was rough

[shy mulch]

Yep, and pain 😂

[runic bolt]

well I'm in central Norway, so snow prob isnt too far away from you

[scenic mirage]

send that snow down

you see northern lights often?

[flint grail]

Bruh, I just crashed again

[runic bolt]

yuh

quite often

[scenic mirage]

lucky mf

[wispy condor]

Best saves

[bitter pine]

can i use coal on the biomus generator?

[wispy condor]

U can make bio coal but not coal omass

[reef basin]

no, you need coal powered generator

[clear aspen]

Anyone needing a nuclear fact?

I just thought of one

[wanton ridge]

hellooo

[clear aspen]

Hello

[ornate saffron]

We got 10 inches the first weekend of November

[bitter pine]

ok, because i have 6 biomus generator but the machine are so slow, btw thx

[clear aspen]

Lucky you I wish it snowed in San Antonio

[sullen gull]

Where folks who know what real salsa should taste like? 😏

[reef basin]

machines either run at full speed or not at all. They can't be "slow"

[bitter pine]

but showing idle!

[reef basin]

does it have input and empty output?

[bitter pine]

maybe but i can't remeber

but i can't make the base clean,lol

[shell lava]

Hello guys, I need a bit of help with my coal generators

Or the one that makes power

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[ornate saffron]

@ornate saffron above is great resource beyond that make a thread in #1038092680493801533 easier to have a dedicated room to diagnose and help

[reef basin]

ah yeah, ping yourself when replying

[ornate saffron]

So skilled at pings Idk how i even did it lol

[shell lava]

I know how it works, but my grid fails everytime now that I have overloaded the system

[placid stirrup]

Hmm, what to do if you need more power...

[shell lava]

Make more generators or more waterpumps and get more coal?

[placid stirrup]

D., all of the above

[clear aspen]

A large majority of the city is Mexican ethnicity I could presume

[ornate saffron]

Expand your power plant. I think my first run i had to expand to 24 coal generators before switching to fuel

[shell lava]

Welp...I only have 5..

[flint grail]

Bruh, this game is so broken

I have crashed like 14 times today

I can't do fucking anything

[placid stirrup]

What troubleshooting have you tried

[ornate saffron]

I really over compensated after my first coal days. Now if im within 20gw of my max I expand

[flint grail]

Verified, restarted. Every time I get the same error

[placid stirrup]

Multiples of 8 per the diagrams above are best

[wanton ridge]

that's right i can affirm it

[ornate saffron]

I havent tried since 1.0. I skipped coal this specific run but I multiples of 8 in update 8

[clear aspen]

R u from San Antonio?

[placid stirrup]

Have you checked the QA site or here for the crash error to see if someone has a solution?

[wanton ridge]

no, from mexico

[clear aspen]

Coolio

[flint grail]

The crash is an access violation

[ornate saffron]

I live in a frozen tundra but the Mexican street food place down the street has a great medium salsa. I make mango salsa often

[shell lava]

I'll make 8 generators and 5 pumps 👍

[placid stirrup]

Did you look at the diagrams? Lol

[rotund blaze]

why can you sometimes put rail signals at the end of a rail and sometimes cant

[reef basin]

the question is why would you want to put a signal at the end of a rail

[shell lava]

Wheres the diagrams?

[clear aspen]

I grow restless for a ping

[rotund blaze]

so its placed for the future? because the other signals throw errors unless you do it? obviously?

[reef basin]

I mean the end signal will always throw error if it's the last one

[placid stirrup]

@shell lava

[reef basin]

so you're just moving which signal will throw the error

[rotund blaze]

so why would you want to only have the signals inside a T junction and not the ends of it, making the T junction unusable

[reef basin]

if it has one dead end, it doesn't need to be a junction at all 🤷

[rotund blaze]

just because you never plan ahead doesnt mean others shouldnt

[reef basin]

this is not about planning ahead, but about building ahead

[placid stirrup]

Is something wrong? Did someone hurt your feelings?

[somber monolith]

Is this how I build an intersection? #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

Expand past the dead end and place a signal

[rotund blaze]

have to place an entire pillar and 100 meters of track just for one signal 😔

welp, path signals dont work like chain signals from factorio anyways

idk how to place them, makes no sense

[shell lava]

My power is out and then my taxi won't come to pick me up 😭

[reef basin]

they work practically the same

[rotund blaze]

they just throw error symbols

[reef basin]

what's the error? share image with segment colors in #1038092680493801533

[rotund blaze]

"conflicting entry signal types"

[ivory condor]

I have horror stories to share about train signal errors thats for sure

[livid geyser]

I’m a moron. It just finally clicked that if the extracter is like 600 or whatever, then I feed into one smelter, I’m not gonna get the full 600 ore at once working per minute, I should set up quite a few smelter or clock them up so it works out the same amount of…

Okay, I’m an idiot, I’m seeing things in new light now.

[reef basin]

all signals leading to a block must be of a same type, either block or path

[raw fern]

Hello

[rotund blaze]

they are

[reef basin]

apparently not. Again, share images in #1038092680493801533

[exotic garnet]

hi

[rotund blaze]

just like factorio, chains before intersection, blocks after

[reef basin]

can't give any more help without an image

[exotic garnet]

i had fun streaming to day the game i never had this much fun in satisfactory check #streams-and-videos

[ivory condor]

My favorite and most frustrating error that is straight from the shadow realm, aka "signal loops into itself", that I truly think comes from the pits of hell

[somber monolith]

Will this intersection work? I haven’t ever built with trains #screenshots message

[placid stirrup]

You're ready for satisfactorytools

[sullen gull]

Heh, its an old Pace Commercial 😏

[clear aspen]

Oh I’m only 15 I haven’t heard of that

[ivory condor]

you know what i love about signal errors, when your rebuilding track, with practically same track and signal placement but now it throws loop into itself error, because the game has decided to hate your existence

[fluid sapphire]

thats what a typical 3 way intersection looks like, yes

[ornate saffron]

Once building is completed and assuming you are using a two track on direction system and it is signaled correctly.
Yes

[clear aspen]

I very much dislike geometry

[somber monolith]

How do I signal it correctly

[sullen gull]

Heh, yeah, well before your time 🤣 (grumbles something about being an old fart and goes back to work....)

[exotic garnet]

i tortured my self trying to build my own decent factory for first time

[clear aspen]

Man I just wanna go home and watch bna

[ivory condor]

My strategy is to put down the signals and pray the game has decided not to hate me today

[ornate saffron]

That can be complex. Make a thread in #1038092680493801533

[ornate saffron]

I always Wana snuggle my cat and watch ghibli

[exotic garnet]

eh my factory was not even planed to look decent like it looks now

[clear aspen]

I used to have a cat

[leaden turret]

the keyboard you typed that on has geometry

[shell lava]

FINALLY!

[ornate saffron]

Those nuclear plants you love so much also use geometry

[ornate saffron]

Power?

Overwhelming?

[shell lava]

I'm produding 900 MW now instead of 400 or smth

[clear aspen]

Geometry the school subject

[ornate saffron]

Are you in high-school?

[shell lava]

The thing is that I do not get much coal tho into the machines

[ornate saffron]

When you get more belts you have more logistics to move the coal

[scenic mirage]

wait what how so

[ivory condor]

all games are based around geometry, good luck escaping

[rustic hare]

even games that run on the CLI?

[ivory condor]

CLI?

[rustic hare]

command line interface

basically just text in and out

[primal obsidian]

anyone got any good train tutorials on YouTube

[plain gate]

rock paper scissors

[ornate saffron]

That large reactor shape you see in the simpson for example uses geometry to optimize air flow and water condensation

[primal obsidian]

/
/
there you go genonetry in CLI

or close enough I guess

formatting messed it up

[hard ivy]

_____ \ / \/

[scenic mirage]

oh i thought you meant in the game

[ornate saffron]

Nono irl I switched to #off-topic-media after to clarify

[wild lotus]

What's the recommended train to wagon ratio? 1:3 or 1:4?

[ornate saffron]

I mostly see ppl recommend one locomotive and four freight

[wild lotus]

Oh okay thanks

[simple echo]

Decided to actually automate the elevator parts this save instead of merely hand-feeding the parts

[hard ivy]

depends on the maximum slope you expct your train to climb. 1:4 is safe for 2 m ramps

[ornate saffron]

Insert the do not put your body parts into the machines meme here

[solemn crystal]

Youre not playing satisfactory right, obviously you’re supposed to make everything on the bench and then only use the machinery for 1 item automation

[simple echo]

True

[solemn crystal]

Like imagine automating everything in a factory game

Smh smh

[unborn moss]

Sounds like cheating.

[simple echo]

I used to just take parts from my existing factories and make a temporary sort of “factory” where I would put the required amount of parts to craft the elevator parts, so not exactly automated

[reef basin]

both are valid options

advantage of full automation is tons of sink points 😉

[faint jacinth]

Should I use the pure ingot in my factory or is it not worth it

[simple echo]

That’s what I want
I will finally get the golden nut

[reef basin]

which one?

[faint jacinth]

All

[simple echo]

If you have water nearby, absolutely

[shell lava]

Very cool to have an own taxi 👍

[faint jacinth]

Kinda nearby lol just have to make a looooooonnnngggg pipe highway

[simple echo]

With how pipes work it’s way easier to just bring the solid materials to the water source

[reef basin]

well some of them work differently

for most, you get more ingot per water, at the cost of having to deal with water, using more power and refineries instead of smelters (or whatever you use)
for pure alu ingot, it's different, you get less ingots per ore, but you don't have to add silica to it

in both cases "worth" depends on you (as it does with every other recipe), whether you like it or not

[faint jacinth]

Well i mean I can do it i just would rather build it right so I dont have to do it in the future yk

[simple echo]

I did the half-automation last save and counting how many parts I need to craft the required amount of elevator parts was too tedious not tedious enough

[rustic hare]

oh no no, there's no right or wrong here just build based on your needs

[reef basin]

don't build for future, build for now

[steel kelp]

Are conveyor throughput monitors bugged or smth? Im showing +- 1 on the number i should be getting, and all my machines are working correctly

[simple echo]

I absolutely love the pure ingot recipes
It can help you maximize the amount of ingots you get per ore for a(relatively) small price

[faint jacinth]

But im building huge taking most of grass fields for designs production etc.

[simple echo]

It needs time to recalibrate itself

[reef basin]

yeah not recommended

[faint jacinth]

Why 😭

[steel kelp]

Yea even after this, ive just left it on for 20 mins while on a work call and its still showing the +- 1

[simple echo]

Huh
Reloading doesn’t work?

[hard ivy]

it's not bugged. it just averages over the last minute

[rustic hare]

send the monitor's graph in #screenshots

[steel kelp]

Sure one sec

[ornate saffron]

Is one of the machines feed the line outputing numbers past the decimal?

[steel kelp]

Its 6 machines making 12.5 per min

[rustic hare]

cause if your output goes in big but slow batches, the average is gonna jump, like my pure ingot factories, the output number jump around alot

[fossil geyser]

Seven coal generators making 1,320 mw is so over kill

[steel kelp]

So that should combine to make 75

[rustic hare]

not for long

[steel kelp]

But its reading 74 or 76

[hard ivy]

average it over an hour and it's gonna be 75

[rustic hare]

just saw your graph @steel kelp this is exactly the case then

[steel kelp]

Ah ok i see

[ornate saffron]

Ya, that makes sense making the average 75.

That's all they do. It gives you a average. Its not a precision counter.

[steel kelp]

Thanks all!

[fossil geyser]

My max power consumption is 478 me and I'm about to build an eight coal powerplant

[shell lava]

If y'all went into my factory, y'all would never understand my system 🙏

[steel kelp]

Took me 10 mins to automate versatile framework, in phase 1 in took me like 2 hours lmao

[ornate saffron]

I have ADHD my system is chaos. But I know where stuff is

[simple echo]

Friend, I stopped playing for a few months and I could not tell you what I needed to do or what the hell my factories were doing if you put a gun to my head(also I was disgusted by the lack of world grid alignment so I made a new save)

[rustic hare]

a typical player I know surpasses 2GW at mid game

get to work spamming more gens

MORE

[shell lava]

Before I start on phase 2, I need to get more power, more coal, get better miners and change all the conveyors to MK2 or MK3 idk

[hard ivy]

building 1 gen at a time sounds like an inefficient use of time. build like 8 at once

[shell lava]

Not all conveyors tho

[simple echo]

You don’t need to upgrade majority of your conveyor belts

[steel kelp]

Changing all your belts is a bit pointless as most of your setups will require x amount per min, which will mean you will need to add more machines

[shell lava]

Yeah I didn't mean all belts but the most important ones

[fossil geyser]

Gotta watch what the water consumption will be

[hard ivy]

you can calculate it?

[placid stirrup]

You're probably the only one here with it

[fossil geyser]

I can't do math

[rustic hare]

the in-game search bar can

[steel kelp]

I also always do all the tiers before i even think about making the space elevator parts

[placid stirrup]

Good ol nalculator

[simple echo]

Hey hi hello

[shell lava]

I have always played with my friend and cousin and they have done all the work while I sat there like a baby trying to learn my first language.

[shell lava]

Yeah same

[rustic hare]

a lot of elevator parts are locked behind tiers so.. that's the obvious way I guess

[simple echo]

All means all
Including stuff like the jello pad

Which I skipped because I know that if I’m at full HP — I will not die from fall damage

[south sinew]

also jello pads just suck

it's way better to get a parachute

[simple echo]

Does anyone ever use these?

[rustic hare]

jetpack

[simple echo]

Hypertube cannon

[rustic hare]

fair point, but to make up an excuse, just for the sake of having an excuse, if you already got production ready for space elevator materials, may as well unlock all the tiers to feel complete

[ornate saffron]

I like using the games natural slopes like the stone arches to gain momentum and height while using the parachute

[grizzled orchid]

Jello pads are fun but were power crept out of use for the most part

[ornate saffron]

I like chaining jump pads together to quickly scale cliffs like its quake 3

[simple echo]

Also the fact that you can survive a lethal fall damage as long as you are at full hp

Nuts and berried mog the jello pads

[rustic hare]

I just rocket fuel with my jetpack everywhere, if it's too long then.. canon

[simple echo]

Why not both?
Cannon+jetpack let you cover more distance

[ornate saffron]

The best part of this game is that they give you a tool box and its up to you how you get the task done. Often there is many ways to get the desired result

[reef basin]

why not trains

[simple echo]

Like, for transporting yourself?

[rustic hare]

I am using both for long distance tho, but jetpack solely for height when doing cliffs n' mountains

[rustic hare]

why not factory carts?

[simple echo]

The tesla

[rustic hare]

you wanna turn 90 deg this way? no, turn 270 deg the other way

[simple echo]

I just use hoverpack and jetpack only when I’m far from power cables

[ornate saffron]

Yup, I like making a train station by itself at frequently traveled factories. This way is can hop on a train afk to do a chore and be where I want to without disrupting logistics

[simple echo]

I did that a few times, but I mostly do hyprtube+jetpack combo

[rustic hare]

I only use hover when building really, it feels... slow

[simple echo]

I also tried riding a drone, but I end up falling off a lot of times, so don’t recommend

[ornate saffron]

Like the hypertube but it makes me motion sick. I can't look at my other monitor to work on spreadsheets while that is going on in my peripheral vision

[fossil geyser]

I just run everywhere

[simple echo]

Not even slide jumping?

[rustic hare]

slide jumping goes almost as fast as a train on flat track

crazy good

[flint grail]

And I just crashed again

Twice more now

[fossil geyser]

Nope

[shell lava]

Bro guys i need help

[rustic kayak]

More people having trouble with crashes on ps5 when u joined someone?

[solar whale]

Where should I make computers

[hard ivy]

a place that has all the resources nearby

[grizzled orchid]

Is there a hotkey or quick access to the blueprints tab (like the X key for customizer) or is it just putting them on the hotbar?

[remote crest]

I made my computers at the swamp, but I use an alternate recipe for the circuit boards that cuts out oil production

[lethal geyser]

In space

[glass pagoda]

My lizard dogo just dug up a yellow power slug im so proud

[somber monolith]

Is it a bad idea to have a train go from one station to another to pick up stuff then dump at another station after

[ornate saffron]

That's fine. Its what trains do. They move stuff from A to B

[somber monolith]

I mean what if I made it go from A to B to C then return to A

[sterile blade]

... to C to D...

[ornate saffron]

Sure. Your world your rules

[somber monolith]

But is it a good idea to build something like that?

[ornate saffron]

I build by pass tracks so I can go from A to G without stopping

[ornate saffron]

As long as you plan it out and do the debugging you can make train routes rather complex

[somber monolith]

How am I supposed to measure how high my pipes are if it’s going up a gradual slope over a long distance?

[glass pagoda]

So when building dimensional depots will Mercer spheres reaspawn

[somber monolith]

Never

[ornate saffron]

There is a finite amount and they do not respawn

[glass pagoda]

Alr

[glass pagoda]

So they aren't like power slugs where you can get infinite of them

[somber monolith]

You cant get inf power slugs

[ornate saffron]

Power slugs are finite as well. There is just 1000plus

[somber monolith]

You can get power shards tho

[glass pagoda]

Yes you can the lizard dogo can dig up power slugs

[somber monolith]

But that’s late game

[somber monolith]

True but that’s not a reliable method

[glass pagoda]

So it's technically infinite

[ornate saffron]

But that's not consistent at all. And I don't know if it removes it from the loot table.

[somber monolith]

Why would you use doggos you can make a factory for power shards by the time you run out

[glass pagoda]

Cuz they are cute

[somber monolith]

I only kill them

[placid stirrup]

Sane and reasonable

[glass pagoda]

You swine

[somber monolith]

I need the bio fuel

[glass pagoda]

You need to learn how to be a good person bad human

[somber monolith]

Doggo fuel > nuclear

[ornate saffron]

Fun fact we don't know if the pioneer is a human. For all we know its a robot just following its directive. Or a robot with a human memory ingram

[reef basin]

Is confirmed by devs afaik

[ornate saffron]

That the pioneer is a robot?

[reef basin]

A human, also female

[ornate saffron]

Oh, cool I didn't know that. As the game itself doesnt tell you

Tbf I didn't know it had any female attributes until a friend pointed out boobs lol

[glass pagoda]

Also when you kill a lizard dogo one of the lines is bad human

[somber monolith]

Why do you know?

[sterile blade]

Too busy watching the factory through the window to notice your reflection

[ornate saffron]

That doesnt mean anything coming from a sassy voice from the void

[somber monolith]

Have you been killin doggos

[glass pagoda]

My dogo got softlocked

But I realized I could just reload save

[somber monolith]

Demon

[ornate saffron]

Pretty much. If I want boobs I can see them irl.

[glass pagoda]

You said you like to kill them

[somber monolith]

Atleast use them for fuel it’s evil to kill them for fun

[glass pagoda]

I did not kill for fun my lizard dogo was dying

[somber monolith]

Excuses

[rustic kayak]

Are there problems with epic games? When i joined a friend of mine after 2 min it gives me a error code

[wicked yew]

Does anyone know why my biomass burner keeps blowing a fuse when i try to open a drop pod?

[glass pagoda]

Fool at least I cherish my dogs you just mureer them

[ornate saffron]

The internet is broken today

[pine patrol]

just got my first taste of turbofuel its awsome

[sterile blade]

Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

[wicked yew]

What ya mean?

[white dawn]

If you're only using one Biomass Burner, it'll be because the pod requires more than 30MW to open

[somber monolith]

It’s farming not murder

[ornate saffron]

Wait until rocket fuel. Its mint flavored.

[white dawn]

If you've got one that requires more, you can build a couple of Burners and wire 'em together (exact quantity will depend on the pod)

[wicked yew]

Oh okay

[somber monolith]

Really? I want some now

[ornate saffron]

Cloudflare services broke this morning. Its back up and running but there is still issues

[livid geyser]

I’m pretty close to finishing phase three. Should I explore as much as I can, get a lot of HD before I move to phase 4, just so I have all recipes from pervious phases?

[sterile blade]

Good way to pass time while the elevator fills up~

[glass pagoda]

You could just kill evil enemy's for bio fual

[white dawn]

I usually like to stay "caught up" with hard drives, yeah. And then in the meantime you're also finding spheres/sloops and gathering DNA, so it's win/win/win/win all around. :)

[somber monolith]

They make better tickets

[livid geyser]

That’s what I was thinking too

Alright

[glass pagoda]

I will invite you to my birthday party

[lethal geyser]

Woah

[somber monolith]

Very kind

[glass pagoda]

Wdym

[ornate saffron]

You promise? I think @somber monolith s skin would be great with the right taxidermy artist

[somber monolith]

Wdym

[glass pagoda]

Fish

[sterile blade]

That was so out of nowhere

[somber monolith]

Next update better be making boots out of lizard doggos

[ornate saffron]

Don't worry @somber monolith your mom still thinks you're handsome.

[ornate saffron]

Waste not want not

[somber monolith]

If I have 200m of pipes and I have a pump at the beginning will the headlift reach the end of the pipe?

[white dawn]

Yes, headlift won't "die off" with horizontal distance

[little shale]

Any notable lot underwater?

[somber monolith]

What if it dips down 10m then goes back up?

[somber monolith]

You can’t go underwater

Unless you glitch

[white dawn]

Correct, you can go down+back up all you want, theoretically

[somber monolith]

And then it’s just dirt

[somber monolith]

Alr nice

[white dawn]

The best thing to do (IMO) is avoid transferring the liquids that far in the first place, but it can be done

[somber monolith]

Bit hard when I’m in the middle of the desert

[white dawn]

In re: pumps, back when I was more likely to have longer pipelines, I'd generally put pumps on the "vertical" bits anyway, even if I was sort of "wasting" previous pump headlift. I liked it nice and obvious that a vertical section was well-pumped, instead of having to know that I'd placed a pump hundreds of meters away

[shy mulch]

Booo. Tried to play satisfactory on my laptop while I'm away from home but I think the laptop is going to go on fire it's so hot 😂 I'll stick to playing on proper pc at home I think

[white dawn]

Take heart! It'll probably melt before catching fire!

[zenith pecan]

What kind of laptop, this game shouldn't be causing fires.

Unless it's like my partners 2007 alleged laptop 🤣

[ornate saffron]

I use my laptop as a handwarmer as I play

[shy mulch]

No idea I bought it cheap off a mate, I didn't even want one but I'm a sucker for a bargain

[ornate saffron]

I hear that. Mine was less then half price on clearance

[shy mulch]

Acer Nitro 5 whatever that means. I know nothing about laptops. It has light up keys so that means it's obviously good in my head

[zenith pecan]

Simpler than mine, I bought several busted/ewaste laptops off ebay and made a working machine for a grand total of £250 😄

[shy mulch]

My mate bought this one because he is long distance driver and wanted a big screen to watch when he has to stay somewhere overnight. But it was overkill so he sold it to me and he bought a cheaper one

[ornate saffron]

Mine is a msi katana i7-11800H rtx 3060 16gb ram. $699 CAD years ago

[somber monolith]

Could I combine the 0.8 and 0.2? #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

You can

[ornate saffron]

I read that as eight constructors. Provided your belts are fast enough to feed them

[somber monolith]

Well it’s 480 belts so I’m feeding 480 into 4.8 and 320 into 3.2 to make 200 pipes total

[ornate saffron]

Gotcha

[scenic mirage]

I dont think it's a good idea, it could lead to catastrophic issues down the line

[somber monolith]

What kinda issues

[scenic mirage]

The catastrophic kind

[hard ivy]

yes? idk why you'd even split it in the first place

[zenith pecan]

Mine (once assembled and ewaste binned) is an Asus rog strix g315, ryzen7 4800h, rtx3050 4gb gddr6 🤣 & 32gb of ram.

[somber monolith]

My belts are to slow?

[ornate saffron]

480 belts

[hard ivy]

balancer?

[somber monolith]

Why would a balancer help

My belts are 480 and I’m putting 800 onto them

[ornate saffron]

I would do to lines of 400 personally but that is my thoughts around head math and a personal choice

[somber monolith]

I just realised I could do that when I said 800 but it’s to late now I’m not untangling that spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

Nothing wrong with the way you are doing it lol

[somber monolith]

Ik it would look better tho

[hard ivy]

you could put them into any groups you wanted

so 2 groups right near each other, any number of constructors in both, balanced input and output belts and it works

[gilded pawn]

How many M is 1 wall?

[wicked nacelle]

you mean the "Basic Wall (4m)" wall? I have no clue

[gilded pawn]

its 4M wide

is it also 4M?

[ornate saffron]

4m tall

[green fiber]

no thats not the width

[wicked nacelle]

if you stack two does it make a square?

[gilded pawn]

is it 4x4?

[green fiber]

its as wide as a foundation and foundations are wider than 4 m

[ornate saffron]

No its more .something x4m

[white dawn]

The full-height wall is 8m wide and 4m tall; full foundations are 8x8

[gilded pawn]

im trying to build pipes going straight up so i want to find out how many walls is the maximum for a mk2 pump

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440451170375045130/image.png?ex=691e3431&is=691ce2b1&hm=7da9fbb44030c525fe7afea10b3a6401d28b1a891bcfeae0883b9bb6c9c54431& -- that should solve it for you 🙂

[gilded pawn]

so looking at that around 10 - 12

[wicked nacelle]

it's 4m TALL not 4m wide

[green fiber]

12 walls high

but you dont need to measure

you just snap the pump to the pipe

pumps make a funny blue hologram ring on pipes

[hot trail]

Good evenin folks

[green fiber]

thats where the next one goes

[gilded pawn]

is there a way to make it go up higher? like would 2x pumps make it 24 walls?

[green fiber]

no

[ornate saffron]

Its 8m wide, ¼m thick, 4m tall

[green fiber]

you need to put the next pump at a height of 50m above the last pump

[wicked nacelle]

to minimize pumps. It can be closer but there's no additive effect

[gilded pawn]

yeah so after 12 walls, put another one then 12 more walls?

[green fiber]

yep

[wicked nacelle]

I often make a blueprint for vertical pipes and just have too many pumps -- or two blueprints one with a pump one without

[hot trail]

wait so does that mean I cant just have my pipes go up infinitely even if I use pumps every 8m or so?

[reef basin]

no, it's 8m wide

[green fiber]

though again - you dont need to measure this

[white dawn]

Note that technically headlift "starts" at the midpoint of the machine's pipe output (though obvs that doesn't change the measurements too much). Personally I recommend not pushing the headlift limits too far; I'll generally not build a pump further out than like 45m up

[green fiber]

yes. for mk 1 pumps its every 20 m and for mk 2 pumps every 50 m

[wicked nacelle]

also people are talking a lot about weird headlift issues these days and I think I got bit by it recently

[hot trail]

Oh I can, okay awesome, just panicked that my power station wasnt gonna work haha

[ornate saffron]

I generally put my pumps just below the holographic indicators/ snapping point.

[lethal geyser]

20m????

[green fiber]

yes 20 m for Mk 1 pumps

[lethal geyser]

Could've sworn it was 10

[green fiber]

Always remember to read the build menu tooltips people!

Its 10 m for any machine that isnt a pump

[stable prairie]

Bruh, I figured out how to get an achievement, but it costed me all my upgrades, somersloops, mercer spheres, and over 300 power shards

Keep inventory is on, but you still lose everything if you fall into the void

[lethal geyser]

Actually its 22 for mk1 pumps

[wicked nacelle]

nah

also if you did, reload. NOT WORTH

[stable prairie]

It just happened though, I don't have anything

[wicked nacelle]

and you keep the cheevy

[stable prairie]

Too late, it autosaved during atmospheric re-entry

[wicked nacelle]

there aren't 3?

[stable prairie]

It's autosaved 3 times since then

[white dawn]

Are you playing multiplayer, btw? (No clue if that's something that setting is serverside, but maybe?) You should definitely always keep your inventory on death if you have that option selected, regardless of the method of death

[stable prairie]

My oldest autosave is after I lost my inventory

[stable prairie]

Singleplayer, offline, Xbox

[wicked nacelle]

start new save

ALWAYS keep your sloops/spheres in dimensional storaeg

[white dawn]

Weird, for sure. Is your compass showing a death crate somewhere?

[stable prairie]

That'll be my second time losing a 85+ hour save since console release

[stable prairie]

Only a dismantle crate, which I checked

My dead body flew out of bounds, off the map

[wicked nacelle]

and there's no death crate on the mapo

[stable prairie]

ITS GOOD

[white dawn]

May be worth reporting on the Questions site, btw. (Better yet if you can reproduce it -- maybe try on an AGS-enabled save?)

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[stable prairie]

I restarted the game and it's all here on the newest autosave

[wicked nacelle]

yeah i fyou don't care about cheevies you could turn on AGS and give yourself back the irreplaceable items

[stable prairie]

I've been going for achievements as I accidentally find them

I just left the planet

[white dawn]

I meant more using an AGS save to reproduce the problem. Would be easy to load up your player with some inventory and fling yourself into the void and see if it reproduces there

That way you're not risking your main save and you don't have to worry about manually collecting/building/whatever to reproduce

[stable prairie]

True, I have been experiencing a ton of bugs

I did get a cool out of bounds pic though

#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

that's weird that "keep inventory" woudl have a bug. I get dropping a death crate could be bugged by going out of bounds and it was for a long time. but "don't do anything" should work

[white dawn]

Yeah, would definitely be nice to have an easily-reproduceable test case for it

[gilded pawn]

guys with the crude oil do i just link it to the train storage?

[white dawn]

In general it's best to process fluids right near where the fluids are being extracted, btw

My recommendation would be to make your oil products right onsite (plastic, rubber, etc) and then move those products around, rather than the crude oil itself

[wicked nacelle]

for oil 100% for nitrogen it packages and ships well

[gilded pawn]

well i wanna automate pcs, so im thinking of moving the crude oil to a better location where i can make a factory

[white dawn]

You will still have a much better time if you make the plastic+rubber and then send that instead of the oil itself

Though you're free to do whatever you like, of course!

[somber monolith]

Computers? Cause if it is you can make it using just oil and a lil copper

[gilded pawn]

i mean i guess icl i just wanna use the train

[white dawn]

Can use your trains to transport the plastic. :)

[gilded pawn]

i guess either way it will still be pretty cool

so wait why is it not worth moving crude oil?

[wicked nacelle]

and later there are alts that drastically increase oil effectiveness -- and that's easier to do in bulk vs a little here anda little there

[gilded pawn]

So wait if i got say 3 containers, and 1 (Fluid Freight platform) will it only fill up 1 of them? or continue till all are full?

[white dawn]

If you do want to ship liquids around in trains, you have two options: 1) Package them and send them as "solids" in regular freight cars (requires unlocking the Packager, which you might not have yet), or 2) Use Fluid Freight Platforms instead. If you go with #2, you'll want to make sure to account for station buffering; here's a few designs which should work for that: #design-and-architecture message + #design-and-architecture message

In general you want to bring solids to the fluids, though, not the other way around

[gilded pawn]

hmmm i guess do dat

[white dawn]

To clarify: you can, absolutely, transport fluids around the map if you want, and you can absolutely have factories operating at 100% efficiency while doing so. It just means a lot of extra work if you're not familiar with it, and then if you do have problems with throughput rates, debugging them can be an order of magnitude more difficult since there's so many moving parts involved

[exotic nymph]

Does anyone know any good default color combinations I watched a lot of Yt vids and I saw a lot of people used white i also asked ChatGPT for main color combinations and its suggestions looked so bunz I searched up a lot of Yt vids for default color combinations and couldn’t find any someone pls help I choose my save game to be in the desert

[gilded pawn]

yeah think ill just move the items lol nothing stopping me from making it so the train drop off the items and brings the crafted pcs back

[white dawn]

Fluids are tricky enough in this game that in general we're gonna recommend the most straightforward approaches. It's really from a help-channel sense of self-preservation. You can do just about anything in the game and get it to work, though. As I say, if you do want to send liquids around with trains, have at it. Just be prepared to have people recommend you Not Do That if you come in with problems with it later. :)

[wicked nacelle]

post here please for subjective stuff like that https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/932761153703149659

that said, transporting oil is actually pretty straightforward as packaged because you can use some of the oil to make the packaging and not even fight with returning them. just at the cost of some oil Nitrogen on the other hand can't make its own packaging

[median rain]

Later in the game can you automate Sam fluctuators

[white dawn]

Yeah, oil self-packaging is quite nice

Though I think that Packaging is technically a later unlock, so you might not have it right away. Though a quick temporary Plastic setup would let you unlock it quite quickly

[frail sleet]

nitrogen packs 4:1 and as long as you're uploading fluid tanks into the DD somewhere, you can grab stacks out and throw them in a closed loop. It's worth having a few DD's for fluid tanks.

[exotic nymph]

What main colors do you guys use

[frail sleet]

blue purp / blue pink, black, white

plain concrete looks nice too

[wicked nacelle]

I started a new game just to remind myself what it's like... and man biofuel is the LEAST of the things I dislike about early game

[alpine anchor]

general question here, when i need a non interger number of machines ( like 8.33 or wtv) shoulld i underclock the last machine to 33% in this case or can i just leave it as is

[leaden turret]

can enter 4 digits of decimals generally

[frail sleet]

you can just leave, especially if they all have merged outputs.

Technically for least power you clock them all to 8.334/9 %

[hard ivy]

leaving it at 100% speed usually works fine

[hot trail]

Biofuel is whats made me not play with electicity activated until this week lmao

[leaden turret]

you can do math however you want

[alpine anchor]

ok great, i didnt know it it would mess around with the manifold feeding it, ty

[wicked nacelle]

manifolds are AMAZING in how easy they are to make work. you basically do the simplest possible thing and they work perfectly

[alpine anchor]

yeah but i didn't know they take forever to fill up lol

[median rain]

Is there any way to automate sam fluctuators later in the game or do you have to manually craft them

[hard ivy]

they really don't

[hard ivy]

you can automate them eventually

[white dawn]

Yes, though you have to wait until you have the Manufacturer (a building with four inputs)

[wicked nacelle]

oh... oops

I thought it was the... REALLY long building

[alpine anchor]

i have one manifold for coal that feeds like 15-20 gens off of one line I think and that took awhile

[wicked nacelle]

and you can always check the wiki

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, not that bad. :D

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch sam_fluctuators

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sam_fluctuators

[white dawn]

Though it does feel like it takes ages, since you want them so much earlier than that

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch sam_fluctuator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sam_fluctuator

[wicked nacelle]

wow... great search engine.

[hard ivy]

also should've just used a space instead

[wicked nacelle]

the wiki node is SAM_Fluctuator

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch sam fluctuator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sam+fluctuator

[hard ivy]

wow, it works

[white dawn]

I thought space doesn't work? I always use + due to URL encoding; hadn't realized that _ would work

[wicked nacelle]

the real test though....

[white dawn]

Huh; wonder if that was broken in the past but then fixed, or if my memory was just wrong

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch sam fluctuators

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sam+fluctuators

[wicked nacelle]

yeah so.. it didn't matter.

[hard ivy]

with the old bot, neither space nor _ would work. only + did. now everything works

[white dawn]

Ah, nice! Good to know

[random garnet]

After unlocking trucks I now realise how annoying setting up their auto paths are… they get stuck and don’t do stuff properly constantly

[wicked nacelle]

yep that's why I usually recommend people skip them and just go for trains unless they just want that "challenge" for "fun".

[white dawn]

Out of curiosity, are you driving them on foundations or right on the game map?

[random garnet]

I was so exited to unlock them aswell

[random garnet]

I have bigggg roads built

[gilded pawn]

guys big question

[wicked nacelle]

I get it. but unfortunately they're amazingly painful to use

[white dawn]

I admit that nearly all my vehicle experience is with Tractors instead of Trucks, but I've basically never had problems (since the vehicle rewrite a number of updates ago anyway) on "natural" map roads

[gilded pawn]

With the trains do i need multiple Freight platforms?

[white dawn]

Ah, yeah, anecdotally, every single time I hear of folks having those kinds of problems with vehicles, it's on Pioneer-built roads

[hard ivy]

depends. but usually yes

[wicked nacelle]

shouldn't driving on foundations be the easiest possible way to do it--- I mean after you build the foundations?

[white dawn]

As I say, I've essentially never had those kinds of problems when driving Tractors right on the map itself (though my stations are generally all foundation'd up)

[gilded pawn]

so for example if I want 2 items, and I got 2 carts on the train do I also need 2 of them? or will the move a little bit if one of the cars fill up?

[white dawn]

I have no quantifiable data, alas, so I hesitate to draw any conclusions. But literally every time I've seen someone complaining about vehicles having that many problems, they're being driven on roads

[random garnet]

I have real wide roads and stuff too made them for the trucks to work on

[white dawn]

Maybe the physics engine doesn't like the "sharp" boundaries between foundations or something?

[wicked nacelle]

trains REALLY like having one item type per freight station and per car

[gilded pawn]

oh i see

[hard ivy]

the front of the train stops at the "station" part of the station. the wagons then need to align to the platforms

[wicked nacelle]

You CAN do it other ways but it's either waasteful or REALLY fragile

[random garnet]

But like on their pull up to the truck stop it’s ABIT of a tight turn but for some reason the truck stops too soon then try’s ignoring my path and just driving forward

[gilded pawn]

wait could i possibly send u a picture of how i have layed it out? in dms? coz it doesnt let me send it here because i dont want to do this wrong (*first time using trains)

[white dawn]

I suppose I should set up an AGS save with a few test cases and let a save run for a few hours or something. "Natural" road vs. Pioneer-built road

[hard ivy]

send in #1038092680493801533

[white dawn]

See if I can make any direct comparisons

[hard ivy]

and read this first https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

[white dawn]

'cause my own experience with Tractors, ever since whenever that vehicle update happened (the one which added teleport-on-error), has been nearly all positive. But I've also never really built roads

(Oh, and I should again qualify that the vast majority of my own experience is Tractors, not Trucks. I rarely end up using Trucks, so it could be that that's the more important factor)

[wicked nacelle]

I think they said in 1.2 they fixed the "straight belts not straight" bug --- I'll appreciate that so much

[white dawn]

Ah, Update 5, I guess, re: the vehicle changes. :D

[wicked nacelle]

Man you need SOOO many baby quartz deposits to get blades

[median geyser]

Is that why my straight belts sometimes finish on a 45 degree angle i cant remove?

[wicked nacelle]

switch back to "default" and then you can build "straight" off that again

[median geyser]

Maaaan I have re-run entire belt systems to get out of that 😂

Oh shit that would have been easier

[peak wasp]

Whats up everyone

[hard ivy]

the ceiling

[median geyser]

#screenshots message Have I missed anything for my first major factory? My goal is to automate everything up to T3 in one spot. I know Encased Beams are T4, but they are also my main belt source (Mk4 belts) so I need lots of em

[hard ivy]

why are you making ingots? and screws? and why 10 of everything?

[median geyser]

Because I can. Those lines will simply run into ICSs and will shutdown and stop producing once full. Lets call it completionism

[icy jetty]

can sloshing be stopped?

[median geyser]

Itll be the one time I do it, just to say I have lines producing every resource in some capacity

[wicked nacelle]

not with full pipes no. if you run them below capacity then yes

[hard ivy]

if you want a list of everything, the wiki should have a list

[median geyser]

As for the 10 of everything, its the stock number that the website provides when you add a material, and I have no idea what a reasonable or unreasonable output expectation would be for my first factory, so Ive just left it and was going to wing it

[icy jetty]

my brain...trembles

[white dawn]

What you can do, however, is build pipe systems which are by and large resistant to the inevitable sloshing. A "looped manifold" is the usual way of doing it, a la #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

you'll still have sloshing, it'll just be irrelevant

[wicked nacelle]

I thought you did'nt... but whatever -- it solves the real problem which is expected consumption doesn't match expected production

[icy jetty]

this hurts my head because i don't think Full pipes irl, slosh.

[wicked nacelle]

water hammer I'd say is a form of sloshing... sort of

[median geyser]

Should my expectation be different here? Im currently unsure what levels of production I even need, so I was going to start with this just to get the basic material supplies off my main base and make room for more advanced stuff as Im progressing

[hard ivy]

yeah, actually, a pipe filled to capacity won't slosh

[wicked nacelle]

you'd get insane water hammer if that were simulated

[wicked nacelle]

You'd rather have slosh than water hammer

[white dawn]

The trick is to just make sure that the sloshing doesn't occur on the main "feeder" pipe. If there's sloshing inside the looped manifold it'll generally just even itself out. You just want to make sure that you don't get the sloshing back on the main feeder pipe. (Which, yeah, is most relevant when operating at or near pipe capacity)

[wicked nacelle]

that's why you literally put those water hammer stopper things with air in them so it CAN'T actually fill

[icy jetty]

water hammer is the result of the pipes shaking because it can't slosh. so it instead moves the entire pipe with it, and everything the pipe is attached to

[wicked nacelle]

no, water hammer is intrinsic in the water itself, not the pipes. The pipes don't shake per se

[glossy pagoda]

Im on console and I have almost 4 days on the game and I think that you should be able to build whatever you want on blueprints without needing resources (anyone else think that)

[wicked nacelle]

the cause is because water can't (essentially) compress

anyhow, fluids in this game are some arbitrary combination of innacurately simulated real world stuff and also arbitrarily chosen parts of real world that it doesnt' simulate. So you can't play them "game like" but you also can't use "real world common sense" about them either

it's the worst of both worlds

[icy jetty]

which the hammer wouldn't be needed if machine or people cut of the flow a bit slower

[unkempt blade]

not with that attitude!

[unkempt blade]

It's not so bad if you've got the dimensional depot running. It was slightly more annoying pre-1.0

[wicked nacelle]

CSS have done a weird combination of walking back MAJOR parts of the game that were designed to just make the game more painful but keeping ones that seem much less impactful yet are still annoying.

they used to be VERY clear that they thought that making building slow and painful was an integral part of their game

[reef basin]

no

[icy jetty]

right but here's why i think hammer is because it can't slosh in a full pipe. both hammer and sloshing are the result of energy hitting something, and that energy needing somewhere to go.

in sloshing, it just moves the pipe a little if it's not fastened (like imagine you're holding a wide tub filled with water in your hands...you would feel it move your arms left and right)

but with a rigid and full system, it can't slosh. so it instead hits a copper wall - and makes that wall take the brunt of the force because that's the only place to go...which is turn puts stress on the fasteners and so on.

[wicked nacelle]

so much of this game feels like it's built by a remote team that never talks to each other

[unkempt blade]

Yeah they're very community oriented and what is painful building if not a very mild form of trauma bonding?

[median geyser]

While I can see the appeal of that, sort of, it feels like a non-issue? By the time you are blueprinting a design to make modular setup of large scale operations, you are deep enough into the game to have more than enough supply of anything you would need to set up a blueprint.

[wicked nacelle]

honestly that's the best description of it that I've heard. That's what it feels like

[unkempt blade]

I think friction in a game is usually a good idea... to some degree. It's just tough because it's a subjective thing from player to player so balancing it can be tough

[wicked nacelle]

and then they come up with dimensional depot and it's like stockholm syndrome

OH WOW THEY ARE SO NICE TO US TAKING AWAY PART OF OUR PAIN

[unkempt blade]

there was a certain charm to dragging train tracks to my build site so I could load up a huge train full of concrete and steel plates and not need to make tons of trips

[icy jetty]

ya the buildings really don't jive with the world. it's very hard to build efficiently without platforms...but platforms hide the world...and you run out of room so you eventually build up - but that hides more of the world...so two gaming paths that conflict with each other

[pine patrol]

i used to not use foundations now i do and my conveyors are still 🍝

[unkempt blade]

You just need to make sure your huge view-blocking structures don't clash with the natural scenery around them. For example #screenshots message was clearly meant to be in a desert but would just look silly in a grassy field

[reef basin]

part of the reason why the game is "slow" is because it just doesn't work at scale like Factorio does. Max possible build in SF is like small-average sized Factorio base. The more tools you'll get to build fast, the shorter (and for most people less fun) the game will be

[icy jetty]

meme: ah, i see you're a man of culture as well

[green fiber]

slosh in our pipes has more to do with the fact that the fluid dynamic equation is a bit messed up.
It uses a form of bernoulli to describe the flow rate as a result of the old flow rate and of pipe fullness

and its the dynamic part of bernoulli that causes trouble

it adds energy to the pipes

[unkempt blade]

yeah in the following order I like...

1. factory carts
2. rainbows spewing everywhere
3. emojis on my buildings
4. all other vehicles

[green fiber]

when in reality it should be used to solve for flow rate

[pine patrol]

tf is a factory cart

[green fiber]

Bootleg golf cart

[unkempt blade]

the best vehicle that you can unlock in the awesome shop

[pine patrol]

i meant ingame

[green fiber]

literally that: a bootleg golf cart

[pine patrol]

oh that thing

[unkempt blade]

Yeah bootleg golf cart is pretty accurate. I normally say they're vehicular oompa loompas

[pine patrol]

i thought you meant for transporting materials

[wicked nacelle]

it really feels like they told some guy to "go make a fluid system" and he googled and found a white paper and implemented it without understanding it and it worked well enough that they said "SHIP IT!"

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I use them for that

[white dawn]

I keep imagining that Simpsons scene with the anti-coriolis-effect machine on the toilet, while Homer's visiting a US Embassy in Australia

[pine patrol]

does a truck depot work?

[green fiber]

far what its worth, the system works surprisingly well, but they did do some questionable choices for some variable

like it works REALLY for what its worth - if it was more fine tuned and they worked the bugs out

[gilded pawn]

Can a train going up be to steep?

[unkempt blade]

but to be fair that's basically the product <=> developer relationship for most software

[green fiber]

there is too steep: the tallest ramps are too steep cause you cant even build the rails on them

[wicked nacelle]

"surprisingly well" is one way to look at it -- but that's not from a game design standpoint

[hard ivy]

A train can climb any slope you can build a rail on. As long as you give it enough locomotives

[gilded pawn]

so if i can place them they will work?

[icy jetty]

only with a heavily sky factoried world

[white dawn]

If a train can't go up an incline on the track, you can always start adding more engines. Any rail incline that the game lets you place should be climbable with sufficient engines

[wicked nacelle]

they CAN work-- if you put enough engines on the train

[green fiber]

in most cases - but if you load your train with stuff it becomes heavier and locomotives have a limit

[gilded pawn]

more engines = faster?

[white dawn]

Not faster, but more acceleration power

[hard ivy]

Would be fun if fluid density and viscosity actually varied between fluids

[unkempt blade]

Yeah they like foundations. If you want to go long distance with them they need you to build them roads

[green fiber]

thats where the "questionable choices for variables" comes in.

[gilded pawn]

how many is a solid amount?

[wicked nacelle]

each car adds weight. Then adding a "container" on the car adds significant weight (so a huge increase for just putting 1 item in a car) and then each % of a stack adds weight

[reef basin]

that's a bit harsh, the system works well, it just doesn't work as most people would expect, which is more about documentation and information than the system itself.

if they fix the few bugs, fine-tune some variables and so on, and most importantly - if they add more tutorial-ish things related to fluids ingame, I'd consider it a great system

[green fiber]

if it was per-fluid then we could fix all problems cause we could tweak liquids differently from gasses
well... really all that is needed is a set of variables for gasses and one set for liquids - thats it

[wicked nacelle]

1:4 is a good ratio if you never exceed the climb rate of 2M ramps

[reef basin]

it was the case back when fluids came out

[white dawn]

Depends on your rail. You'll commonly see 1:3 or 1:4 given as "ideal" ratios, but I'd recommend just testing it to see how it works. Make sure that your freight cars are about as full as they'll be when doing it "for real"

[wicked nacelle]

also if your train can ever stop on a ramp then you run into more problems than if it has speed when it begins climbing. 1:4 allows stopping on 2M ramps

[unkempt blade]

Luckily for aspiring factory cart skyroad enthusiasts I have concept BPs ready for you #screenshots message

[reef basin]

unless they got rid of the system, it should be still there, as when fluids came out, they had different parameters for those, got unified later (based on info from docs)

[green fiber]

i think they reworked it to be universal to the pipe system

but you could probably hook it with a mod so it reads the fluid descriptor and updates it based on the fluid

[icy jetty]

imagine the pain players feel when they need to delete large projects that aren't part of the BP

[wicked nacelle]

specifically console players

[white dawn]

Imagine the pain players feel when they feel they need to delete large projects at all. :D
<- Team Leave It There Forever™!

[icy jetty]

if you could control the range of the dismantle to be shorter, you could be a bit faster about it...or if you could "remove everything within a radious"

[green fiber]

Dismantle nobelisks when?

[unkempt blade]

yeah especially with the decorative bits on some of my BPs it's a lot of individual pieces to remove

[white dawn]

mm, Dismantle Cluster Nobelisk? :D

[green fiber]

Dismantle Gas Nobelisk
Lingering area build denial

[unkempt blade]

mini black hole that takes it to the dimensional depot would be amazing

[white dawn]

I still think one of their hinted-at new game modes should be one where you have a rogue Pioneer on the planet who periodically goes into your factory when you're not around, and subtly downclocks a building or two, or downgrades one bit of conveyor belt.

[unkempt blade]

All the people who stress out over efficiency would riot so hard. CSS would be in RL danger

Along those lines. I think they should get rid of like 3/4 of the crash sites so people can't guarantee unlocking every recipe

[wicked nacelle]

You'd have to get rid of buying hdd's too

but that'd be super noob trappy and experienced players wouldn't be harmed at all because you'd just know which suck. So that's probably the opposite of a good challenge mechanic 😛

[white dawn]

(obligatory "no recipes except maybe biocoal + charcoal but even then they have some fans suck" digression)

[unkempt blade]

yeah it'd have to be a mode for replay I think

but if you've already beaten the game I think some amount of additional limits or RNG would spice up the next save

[wicked nacelle]

rng on ore deposits would be more interesting I think for replay

[white dawn]

How about also rebalancing all the alts so that there is a clear spectrum from "good" to "bad" for the recipes? :D

[wicked nacelle]

or even a couple different predefined challenge configurations

[unkempt blade]

yeah even if the global quantities were always the same I think shuffling the placements would be a lot of fun

[wicked nacelle]

or maybe ones that limited certain ore types to force you down into alts that were previously not as desirable

[peak wasp]

why did i get a pop up saying server will restart in an hour ? i am playing solo

[wicked nacelle]

the game will reset to deal with memory fragmentation issues -- every 24 hours I think

[reef basin]

that's still playing on a server, just a local one

[peak wasp]

ahhh ps in rest mode must leave it open

[wicked nacelle]

or the game just doesn't do the right thing when it gets signalled it's going into "rest" (assuming it does get signalled) in terms of adjusting the timer -- since the thing it's trying to deal with doesn't get worst while the game is suspended

[wicked nacelle]

Look under "gameplay" and see if you can change "server restart schedule" option (it's there on PC). As long as you don't mind it maybe crashing sometimes then it should be fine to crank up

and just crank down your autosave time if you want. ... or just deal with the restarts

they'll probably adjust that behavior at some point I'd guess

[peak wasp]

thanks for the info and ps does not have that option but its all good game boots fast enough

[craggy vector]

Nearest quartz is 1300m away, didn’t even want blade runners anyway

[reef basin]

classic game telling you to expand 🙂

[craggy vector]

I guess it can’t be THAT bad, I’ve had coal from 700-800 meters away

[white dawn]

Could instead spend even longer scouring the map for the pair of blade runners that you can just pick up. :P

[craggy vector]

I mean, I know where some are but I don’t really feel like getting it

[peak wasp]

i have a random question about a bug i have and was wondering if its a console thing as looked at bug reports and couldn't find anything ... do you have lod issues with trains, they are seen close up then at a certain point they disappear then when at a certain distance further away they reappear , im in the middle of posting a report but was curious

[white dawn]

It's been awhile since I've noticed that in particular, though I've definitely seen it in the past. Not with trains specifically, but presumably the same class of problem

[craggy vector]

Oh my gosh, it IS that bad, I saw an alpha stinger in the wild? No courtesy to even put it in a cave?

[white dawn]

The thing that's amused me the most as of 1.0, at least, was that on my system, freight cars had a longer draw distance than the engine, so I'd just see these freight rectangles (low LOD) chugging along by themselves until I got closer

[peak wasp]

i was expecting the disappearing but when i saw it reappear when further away is what confused me

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, it's definitely weird. When I've seen it in the past it was whole rows of machines, so I could do a little "wave" by moving closer or further away

[peak wasp]

i am only seeing it happen with the train when appox 20 tiles away then once it disappears its hidden for lets say 10 tiles then its back in view then i see it all the way to its destination which is a lot further away

[pine patrol]

🗜️

[wicked nacelle]

there's lots of rendering bugs in the game still. It was worst when 1.0 came out and they fixed many but.. it's not worth fighting with them IMHO

[median geyser]

Can a machine be boosted by multiple sloops?

[feral geyser]

@icy jetty dismantle in blueprint mode, hover the blueprint, then middle click, and it will copy the blueprint

[feral geyser]

A machine needs sloops equal to the number of input slots on it to get the full 2x boost. You can't put extra.

[reef basin]

each machine can be boosted only once, but some machines require multiple sloops to reach full boost (x2). Those will be partially boosted if only some sloops are used

[median geyser]

Unlucky

Was trying to plot my way to more power cells 😂

[devout basin]

Can p5 and pc people play together?

[dusty harbor]

qq, what are mk.5 belts/lifts made of?

[wicked nacelle]

alclad, right?

[hard ivy]

Max multiplier is 2x. But different machines require different number of sloops to reach that. Generally, the number of sloops needed is equal to the number of input ports a machine has. Except the accelerator, which takes 4 sloops despite having only 3 inputs and the packager, which doesn't take sloops at all despite having 2 inputs

[wicked nacelle]

questions like these the best source is to look it up in the wiki

[dusty harbor]

just thought this channel might be quicker :Shrug:

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch conveyor_belts

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=conveyor_belts

[dusty harbor]

was alclad, thank you!

[wicked nacelle]

people will get sick of you just asking wiki questions real quick

[dusty harbor]

eh, who cares? if someones so bothered by answering a simple question... they might need to chill out.

[wicked nacelle]

You may if people then choose to not answer your other questions...

"faster for me to ask other people to do the work for me" isn't a great way to get through life.

[hard ivy]

Be careful. The last time someone said that, they got banned

They were a lot more rude about it though

[wicked nacelle]

so now you know about the wiki so you can use it first 🙂

[median geyser]

There's also a big difference between "faster for me to make you do the work" and "This knowledge is probably trivial to you but new to me, so you can just spit it out without thinking, and so I will consult this wide community of experts first, then take the time to go digging on my own and re-invent the wheel if I don't find someone with the answer already"

[dusty harbor]

I'm asking a question about a video game... You're analyzing this too much.

[dusty harbor]

This is what I mean.

[lethal geyser]

How high should I make my new factory

[median geyser]

Its one thing to ask you guys to plan me a factory with X inputs because Im lazy, its another to wonder and quickly throw a question into a public forum to see if its common knowledge and/or if someone in chat is an expert

[dusty harbor]

Depends. Why do you need it to be high?

[median geyser]

As high as you need to provide for your logistics and design 🙏

[lethal geyser]

Im in phase 2 rn and I wanna be able to upgrade it as I progress into different phases im in the grassy fields at -1005, 2565

[dusty harbor]

My first factory floor was 12 walls tall. Then it only went up. Worked out great for me!

[wicked nacelle]

You'll notice that I am the one who answered the question AND gave the link to the wiki btw. But if he comes back and asks how to make 25 other things it will get pretty old. So use the wiki in the future

[dusty harbor]

Then start at 5-10 walls higher than the ground and build up! If you want to go down a floor, you have the option to do so.

[lethal geyser]

Im just making the base rn then ima count how much iron ill be able to produce with fully over clocked mk2 miners

[lethal geyser]

Okay

[median geyser]

I did note that, and acknowledge that you didnt just bluntly shut him down. I respect that. And I agree, some degree of competency and agency is to be expected of us new player as well 🙏 Your logic of "easier for me to bug you" just seemed harsh, and Ive been met with similar, but less pleasant, responses by other people recently, so decided to chime in

[devout basin]

Its tough out here for new players to find people to play with.

[dusty harbor]

You'll also notice how you chose to do both these things out of the kindness in your heart, and other people most likely would too. If I had to ask 25 more questions, I highly doubt I would ask you and solely you them. And especially not all at once. I'm greatful you showed me the wiki but it really is no big deal at all if I want a simple question answered, in a chat full of experience people.

[dusty harbor]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[devout basin]

I have havent gotten message yet lol

[reef basin]

the point is "teach a man how to fish", a.k.a we're giving you info where to find answers you're looking for so that you don't need to rely on this discord while playing the game

[median geyser]

And then theres me like "why would I ever want to play with someone else? Can you imagine two OCD people butting heads on every single belt placement? 😂 "

[dusty harbor]

Darn. Hopefully you will soon!

[devout basin]

@dusty harbor much appreciated

[dusty harbor]

And I totally get this, but if I want a simple question answered and I have the choice between a discord chat full of people who probably know the answer to it, or opening a new tab with the wiki, then searching up my questions topic/item, then digging through the page to find it, I would obviously pick the first one. My goal is to be efficient and not waste time. No one is being asked to answer 30 questions, just 1 or 2 that most people here would know the answer too of the top of their head. And if they don't know, then of course I will go to the wiki after some time. My point is, I just want to try taking the quicker route before dealing with the longer option.

[devout basin]

Im just not a solo gamer lol

[median geyser]

Hey man, you do you. I just thought the difference between our outlook was funny

[devout basin]

Makes sense, plus I dont mind being the guy that gets told what to do in alot of building situations. Im a ocd person's best friend lolol

I also come from an ark, rust and conan background

[icy jetty]

#screenshots message me seeing what i can get away with on getting my vehicle vertical

[reef basin]

oh for sure. Just be prepared that if you keep asking "how much does machine X use with recipe Y" or whatever, you'll get sent to wiki/codex/wherever more and more

[crude ether]

hey can anyone help me with my stuck train? it arrived at a station but now it just says docking indefinitely, i cant remove it nor the stations but it's also not doing anything it's just frozen sitting there

never mind just found the cancel docking option

not sure why it was stuck docking though

[ocean frost]

can you go in the rain and turn off auto pilot