satisfactory

[celest umbra]

Ok, ima get it

[gilded pawn]

guys should i del my current power? and switch to fully nuclear

[sturdy mural]

(trust me thats how it would go for me)

[sturdy mural]

don't delete it

[fluid sapphire]

or just cook up more power 🤷

[gilded pawn]

bro needs more power storages 😭

have the same battery size as the maximum power u generate = 1 hour

[ornate saffron]

Yes, this way when your power sturggles a secction of your world shuts down not your whole grid.

[sturdy mural]

you can place only like 1 with full depot buh

[gilded pawn]

No?

i made a blueprint with 25 of them, stacked them up about 8 times

just requires lots of wires lol

[sturdy mural]

just placed 25

[gilded pawn]

look at dms ill show u what i did

[sturdy mural]

depot empty

[gilded pawn]

coz i cant send ss here

[teal quest]

hey guys, i'm new to the game. so i found out that you should build modular factories to maintain fps (i'm playing on not so great PC). i've just reached phase 2, completed some goals from phase 1, so now i wonder how do i start building modular factory that's spread all across the map?

[gilded pawn]

also wym by ''depot empty''

[sturdy mural]

no wire in depot

[gilded pawn]

all i got was drop graphics as low as possible if ur cpu bound then buy a new one

[gilded pawn]

oh u mean that 💀

[fluid sapphire]

power need not struggle at all

[sturdy mural]

if you're in phase 2 i wouldn't really worry about it

[celest umbra]

When the advent calendar is coming ?

[sturdy mural]

december 1st

[celest umbra]

Bruh.

[sturdy mural]

until january 18th

[gilded pawn]

you gotta have it in ur inventory for design i made it requires (5,000 wire) (500 modular frame ) rest is hella cheap

[celest umbra]

Okok i see

[sturdy mural]

its an advent calendar what do you expect

[celest umbra]

On some games it comes on novembre

[sturdy mural]

its not an advent calendar then now is it

[celest umbra]

I see

[teal quest]

i have like 80% cpu load in my most complex factory, so i think i will eventually be cpu bond

[gilded pawn]

are blueprints limited to one game file? or could u like transfer it... or would you need mods

[leaden turret]

• it has doors.
• it has the days in december on the doors.
• you get treats behind the doors.

is an advent calendar.

[sturdy mural]

you cna mess in game files im pretty sur

[sturdy mural]

in Jugos case it was in november not december

[leaden turret]

it has the days in december on the doors

[gilded pawn]

GGs lil bro, best thing u can do is lower convoy maybe make it so it doesn't render in the items but other than that maybe tweak settings, try and optimise the game more or buy a better cpu. what cpu have you got rn? or maybe even performance mods

[leaden turret]

blueprints on console are different.

on pc they're cross-save so you can share them easily,

on console they're baked to save, so nope.

[teal quest]

my cpu is kinda old

[gilded pawn]

PC, so i could save this blueprint go into a diff world and it would be there?

[gilded pawn]

name? we don't judge here :)

[leaden turret]

🤔

I honestly forget. might have to copy/paste stuff manually.

[gilded pawn]

hmm i see

[leaden turret]

looks at brain

looks at age

mine too.

[teal quest]

i5-8500

[zenith pecan]

Eighth gen is more than fine.

[gilded pawn]

hmmm best bet would be to either jump to lga1700 or am5

[gilded pawn]

eh maybe for normal games but in big projects it will become an issue

[zenith pecan]

I still have a perfectly functional 8700k that I'm experimenting with.

[teal quest]

idk, i has like 6 cores, which are 3000 GHz

so that's like really not so good

[zenith pecan]

Definitely, my current machine can fold up under load.

[gilded pawn]

its 3 GHz not 3,000 GHz lol

[fluid sapphire]

imagine though

[teal quest]

ofc

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, non K series?, I got the 8700k at 5000 😄

[gilded pawn]

Eh i mean i guess but it rlly depends

[gilded pawn]

nice heater lol the TDP would require a powerplant just to run it 😭

[gilded pawn]

well i got a 7600 and it sits around 50-60%

[teal quest]

can you download maps in this games? cause i think i should stress test it on some mega factory

[gilded pawn]

diff cpu though

[gilded pawn]

icl what gpu do you have?

because when it comes to this game chances are u will get gpu capped unless u have a decent one

[teal quest]

rtx 2080

[zenith pecan]

Mine is a 12900k that is ridiculously overclocked, my old world back in update 7 had an impact on its fps still.

[gilded pawn]

eh yeah in a mega base depending on the settings that will give way before the cpu

[gilded pawn]

the good old 12900k shame intel loves the new sockets every 2 yrs

icl might need to cop a 9950x3d

but my 6600 should probably get upgraded first 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, tell me about it, tbh my next build is liable to be AMD after intels huge missteps.

[fluid sapphire]

honestly i dont think it matters, just dont build a megabase and you will be fine. i used to play on i5-8500 and rx580 and it was fine

[gilded pawn]

atp whats the point playing 😭

WE NEED TO BUILD!!!!!!!!!

[fluid sapphire]

you can build large stuff, i am talking about a scale of thousands of machines, at that point it will struggle, somewhere in the low hundreds should be OK still, you might get some drops, but playable

[frail sleet]

I can send you some if you want

[leaden turret]

we do what we must because we can

[frail sleet]

probably already CPU bound

game doesn't use all cores equally, can't

[gilded pawn]

how fast are mk6 belts?

[frail sleet]

1200

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Conveyor+Belts

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Conveyor+Belts

[frail sleet]

#satisfactory-experimental message

[gilded pawn]

only 1200 I/m?

i thought it would be higher icl

[leaden turret]

if @grave burrow sends you a save file, run screaming

[grave burrow]

It's true 😂 a few even break the unreal engine

[frail sleet]

what cpu/ram/settings do you use btw BL

[sturdy mural]

i decided to use a full pure bauxite node fully

1440 aluminum after using 1800 silica
dang

[gilded pawn]

here is a question for yall is the train worth setting up? some guy on reddit said it out performs MK5 belts assuming its running efficiently but is it worth it?

[sturdy mural]

or no silica actually :P

[frail sleet]

My opinion is generally no, unless you are going to make a big enough network with path signals and with stations off the main track (which is rather difficult)

The advantage comes from being able to send trains along previously laid path, re-using the rail without having to run another belt from A to B. A rail can move ~100k/min of stuff.

[gilded pawn]

plus it doesnt look like ass (belts going across the maps) 💀 it looks nice but i assume its the time and cost it takes to set up said machine just is not worth it

[grave burrow]

Amd 9950x cpu, 128gb (2x dimms) and a 5090. (Game is on raided m.2 SSD 12tb drive.) I play in 4k max settings since by the time I start dropping frames, it's due to the unreal engine being the bottleneck.

[gilded pawn]

GIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[frail sleet]

have you done RAM OC? infinity fabric OC?

[gilded pawn]

the max it can do is 100k ?

[frail sleet]

A 9950x3d with RAM/fabric OC has almost double the FPS of a stock 9950x

[gilded pawn]

i thought u could add as many cars as u wanted 2

wagons

[frail sleet]

After about 100k/min, the rail is always occupied by a cart passing. You can only fit one cart on each rail section at any given moment.

[reef basin]

every form of transportation is "outperformed" by belts, as they are all capped by belts

the point of trains is reusing infrastructure and moving multiple cars at once

[zenith pecan]

I still mess with trains like a giant train set and cause so many derailments 🤣

[grave burrow]

No overclock on anything as its really not needed. I barely push 40% usage even on the largest save files. Heck the largest save file I have that's over 2gb uses like 3% hardware usage lol

[frail sleet]

It will be CPU bound if you're not at >90% GPU load. It just doesn't report 100% CPU because the load isn't equally spread over 32 threads. In some of the lowest FPS scenarios, load can be concentrated heavily on even just 1 thread.

[gilded pawn]

ok buddy no need to flex

[grave burrow]

Yeah but it won't be any better for Satisfactory. The extra cache can't be utilized. I've done so much testing.

[frail sleet]

I have also, to say this. Vcache CCD's consistently get way higher CPU FPS than standard ones.

Happy to A/B test with you if you want. It's pretty easy to load up same save same settings and check fps, i'm pretty sure that you can do a lot more before the game is dropping FPS too much or breaking if you have vcache &/or mem OC

Not trying to argue or anything, just ran even more numbers recently and i think this kind of info is of a lot of value to peeps like us 😄

[leaden turret]

@grave burrow have you made a save that gets you back to the pre-optimisation memory usage yet?

[grave burrow]

Not yet but been planning and designing a factory that will. Gonna start it very soon and it will literally have millions of buildings. Been planning it since April lol

[leaden turret]

gotta make it before 1.2 lands in case they optimise it even more 😅

ooh, also; given the stuff on the sounds, have you tried making something that breaks the reverb/occlusion system?

[grave burrow]

Yeah that's an easy one lol just build like 500 power storage buildings lol really messes with the sounds. 3 million power storage buildings kills barrier around the map and 15 million power storage buildings disable all sounds and creature spawning lol 😆 game gets funky when you are building well beyond what the engine is supposed to handle lol

[frail sleet]

I have a section with hundreds of pumps overlapping their sound and it breaks the game there 😄

[grave burrow]

Yeah pumps and extractors work too xD

[frail sleet]

first time i saw it

there is a death zone where it hard locks the game

[grave burrow]

Yeah and you can get through that hard lock death zone if traveling fast enough lol then you just fly on forever

500 nukes will do it

[gilded pawn]

50GW?

[mystic oriole]

500 nukes in a small space detonated at once? How did you time it for exiting the hypertube?

[leaden turret]

what about other things like making the game think you're in a small room when visually you're outdoors or some nonsense like that?

[zenith pecan]

Last time I set off that many nukes, I was just clearing flora.

[dusty harbor]

Any way to dump excess water?

[grave burrow]

Yeah the explosive rebar can detonate bombs all at once if shot lol

[leaden turret]

🚽

[frail sleet]

no, why do you wanna do that?

[mystic oriole]

you can clear the pipe, or you can make concrete and then sync it.

so many ways to use excess water

[grave burrow]

Only thing I can think of is reducing the view distance to where everything is invisible but still in a room 😂

[leaden turret]

||scaled down beams in just the right place to trigger ray casting||

I mean I would hope power cables don't get cast

[hard ivy]

Inb4 1.2 gives us a fluid sink

Fluids do have point values in the code, after all

[mystic oriole]

but why would you want to sync fluid? When it could be used.

[frail sleet]

You would also only need to sink it if you extracted more than you wanted to use, which is an easy choice/fix, just declock / delete the extractors

[sturdy mural]

could you theoretically lock a foundation before the zone, deploy a chute right after it, and then zoop the foundation to you so you can build outside the death zone?

then you place a portal, drone port, packager, and a sink so you can send fuel by drone to there to fuel the platform and the portal

wait

WAIT
ITS YOU.

[mystic oriole]

yes, I can see someone going there with fuel to power it

[sturdy mural]

how big is the killbox tho

[mystic oriole]

no idea to be honest, i've not experimented with exiting the map with enough speed to avoid instant kill.

[sturdy mural]

hmm

[mystic oriole]

only really exploration, as that giant hell hole looked interesting

[sturdy mural]

config a cannon or smth so that it works just barely
put the game in like 0.01x speed
bind nudge towards yourself to smth you can autoclicker

lock platform, nudge towards yourself and down, past the killbox

bring some packaged turbo, leaves and mats for the specified items
setup an island

skyfactoyr

satisfactory skyblock :3

makes me wonder
could you make a randomizer mod that would place you on floating islands like for skyblock

[shy mulch]

What method are you guys using that allows you to travel fast enough to get through the killbox while still having an active foundation hologram. Holograms go away when you enter a tube, no?

[sturdy mural]

i thought of placing it right after you exit the tube

[shy mulch]

You'd need to be soooooo fast

[sturdy mural]

put the game to 1% speed

[shy mulch]

Is that possible in vanilla?

[sturdy mural]

place it
put game to 100% speed
go past barrier, 1%,nudgenudgenudgenudgenudgenudgenudge

[sturdy mural]

probably not
i dont think theres a gamespeed setting

[shy mulch]

Ah, not for me then. I'm only here for vanilla 😛

[sturdy mural]

or maybe you could use SCIM to move a platform that far away

you can move crates

[shy mulch]

If anyone figures out a way to do it ingame in vanilla then I'd love to hear it

Save editing is the same as modding in my eyes, it's just creative mode with zero limits. My enjoyment comes from figuring out how to use what we have in unplanned ways

[zenith pecan]

I pretty much feel that way and generally avoid modding, though I have found SCIM handy for simple navigation as an actual map since it shows what I've built where, something I wish the in-game map did.

[scenic thunder]

Is it possible to clear all items from the belts or i just need to remove whole factory ?

[steel kelp]

delete the belt

or pick them up i guess

[zenith pecan]

You can divert the output belt into a sink to empty it that way, turn off inputs and change the machines if you want to alter production (the stuff in machines goes in your pocket) assuming I'm understanding you correctly.

[scenic thunder]

ill try. idk why devs still not add something like clear belt or etc

[steel kelp]

mk6 is pretty clear

[frail sleet]

they mean "delete all items from belt" button 😄

would be very useful sometimes

[scenic thunder]

Clear like make belts empty from items i meant

[zenith pecan]

I couldn't imagine a "flush belts" function in the same way as pipes, I would expect a colossal mess of junk on the floor if you could just tip it over to empty 🤣

[steel kelp]

oh right lamo

yeh that would be v nice

but deleting the belt isnt really a big deal if the factory is clean

if its spaghetti it can be terrible

[wicked nacelle]

yeah if you misconnect belts for a second you can screw over hundreds of machines that each have to have their input belts deleted and recreated because you can't see that last item on the belt to pick it up

[zenith pecan]

Unless a particular belt system was a pain to build, it is generally faster to just delete and recreate the belt, otherwise just divert to a sink and watch it empty that way.

[mystic oriole]

too bad we don't have a 'reverse belt' change

[wicked nacelle]

it's not "the belt" its each of the feeder belts into each building because you can't pick up that item that's hidden on the belt in the machine

[wicked nacelle]

that would maek blueprints SO much more useful and if autoconnect would automatically reverse belts on the blueprint one to flow the right way to connect to whatever it's autoconnecting to

[scenic thunder]

its me now

[wicked nacelle]

it's been all of us 🙁

[mystic oriole]

yeah, miss connect belts anon meeting going on right now eh?

[wicked nacelle]

I'd say spaghetti makes it easier to have other belts to misclick to but once the items are on the wrong belt it doesn't matter your design.

the best cleanup is reload from autosave

at least for any sufficiently complex system where cleanup (including the stuff you miss on the first pass) takes longer than your autosave timer

[mystic oriole]

it takes a particular kind of person to enjoy making spaghetti factories

[wicked nacelle]

I make spaghetti factories but mostly because I enjoy making fast forward progress not because I enjoy the spaghetti per se

and it's usually a organized set of machines but then their inputs/outputs to other sections is spaghetti as the recipes increase in complexity and quantity needs

[mystic oriole]

trying to speed run the game eh?

[wicked nacelle]

I just like building bigger and bigger stuff. And I don't enjoy "build exactly what the production planning tool says". You can basically solve the game and then jsut be a build robot but meh

[fluid sapphire]

true testament to the game, the many ways to enjoy it

[mystic oriole]

that's right, so many ways, just enjoy. No stress and no wrong way of playing.

[fluid sapphire]

its not like there is a single way to build a production graph, i dont think its robotic at all

there is no graph telling me i need to build 20km of pipes where 2 would do xd

and if the graph is boring, there are ways to make it more interesting, you can bake the logistics into it

[pine patrol]

i am now making nuclear pasta

ts is gonna trip my grid 😭

[glass pagoda]

Why is my lizard dog just standing still

[pine patrol]

it just went up to 1500 Mw

[fluid sapphire]

whats your headroom

[pine patrol]

?

[glass pagoda]

Guys?!

[upbeat kayak]

anyone know why a splitter i just set up isn't working?

[fluid sapphire]

how much power you cookin up, and how much is unused?

[glass pagoda]

WHATS GOING ON

[pine patrol]

uh 6000Mw and none

i am running off of batterys

[fluid sapphire]

hope you have enough hehe

[glass pagoda]

Hello?

[pine patrol]

ill sent my grid stuffs

[fluid sapphire]

is that a question or an exclamation at something that happened?

[glass pagoda]

My lizard dogo isint moving

[upbeat kayak]

?

[glass pagoda]

What is going on

[pine patrol]

#screenshots message

[glass pagoda]

It isint moving

[fluid sapphire]

if it went up to 1500 and you didnt trip, and your batteries are holding, you are fine

[glass pagoda]

Help

Please

[pine patrol]

my issue is its not giving the batterys time to charge

[pine patrol]

reload save

[glass pagoda]

Okay

[fluid sapphire]

imma be real, 6GW is not a lot of power at that stage of the game

[glass pagoda]

Yay

[fluid sapphire]

isnt working how

[pine patrol]

im aware i need to setup more oil stuffs or go to nuclear

[upbeat kayak]

it's only moving items through the center path

[zenith pecan]

One reason I overbuild power for like a complete lunatic, black starting systems I knock out is quite maddening.

[upbeat kayak]

it's not actually splitting the conveyor

[pine patrol]

your certain both are connected

[upbeat kayak]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

smart splitter?

[pine patrol]

smart splitter?

[upbeat kayak]

no

normal splitter

[slow ermine]

Hallo!

[upbeat kayak]

i'll put it in #screenshots

[fluid sapphire]

that must mean your belts are not connected

[upbeat kayak]

they are

[fluid sapphire]

well, there is no other explanation, try deleting and rebuilding them

sometimes things can look connected, but are not

[grim carbon]

I’m starting again from scratch

Where I built my new hub I acquired a pet

He keeps walking back and forth

I need to know how to get him to go

[lethal geyser]

Pale berries

Then trap it in a box

[grim carbon]

I don’t have any

What box?

[wicked nacelle]

If you build a splitter on the seam between two belt segments it won’t work

[lethal geyser]

Foundations and a wall

[wicked nacelle]

Splitter must entirely be on one belt segment.

[lethal geyser]

Go find some

[grim carbon]

I haven’t got that far yet

[lethal geyser]

What

[zenith pecan]

Paleberries are like everywhere.

[lethal geyser]

Where did you spawn

[wicked nacelle]

They’re actually not. There are large biomes where they are rare and very hard to find without a scanner

[zenith pecan]

🤷‍♂️ Not that hard.

[lethal geyser]

If he spawned at the dune desert or rocky desert then yes but the other 2 then no they're everywhere

[wicked nacelle]

I’ve helped people with this question before and went to where they were with a scanner and still had to fly around a bit to find them and then they were somewhat hidden up on a cliff

I’m not saying they’re super rare but when you’re looking and not finding them they feel that way for sure

[unkempt blade]

it's like they're the factory carts of exploration collectibles or something

[zenith pecan]

I'm usually just stumbling across them and horde them like a madman, I risk filling industrial cans with the results 😄

[lethal geyser]

I've got 50 things that make them around me

[wicked nacelle]

Yes if you stop looking for anything you’ll find tons of them 🙂

[pastel willow]

anyone wana start a world with me

[zenith pecan]

I generally don't hunt for them but always kicking them over.

[lethal geyser]

I gotta remake all my factories now

[unkempt blade]

because they were too awesome the first time and it's embarassing your friends?

[lethal geyser]

Nah i got miners mk2

[unkempt blade]

why remake for that? just build more

[lethal geyser]

Eh they're poorly built as well

And quite small

[unkempt blade]

build the expansion right next to the original so you can see how much better you are at building now

[lethal geyser]

No

[unkempt blade]

you don't want to celebrate your growth?

[lethal geyser]

No

[unkempt blade]

That saddens me. I hope you're at least using factory carts in the V2 factory

[lethal geyser]

No

[unborn nova]

would it be better for me to convert crude oil directly into fuel + resin OR crude oil into rubber and plastic with the heavy residual fuel being turned into fuel
which would make more fuel?

[lethal geyser]

Rubber and plastic

[unborn nova]

ok

does it make more?

[white dawn]

Eh, it depends what you want out of your production

If you're not doing the complex Recycled-recipe loops, the "direct" recipes will give you the highest oil-to-product ratio for the thing it's making

[unborn nova]

my petrol gens keep dipping in power cuz they dont got enough fuel

[white dawn]

Crude Oil -> Fuel will give you more fuel than Crude Oil -> Rubber|Plastic -> Fuel

But if you're making Rubber|Plastic anyway, then sure, you can then turn those byproducts into Fuel as well

[unborn nova]

i see

[dense violet]

you have to plan the right number of gens for hte right number of fuel pm you produce :\

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, bah, you reminded me I need to build a new oil pipeline in the spire to swallow all the oil for rubber & plastic, that build is going to take ages!

[white dawn]

There's a specific loop involving four alt recipes (plus one of the vanillas) which gives you some kind of insane oil->product production, but if you're just going "direct," the shortest step will give the most for that product

[unborn nova]

it should be 240production to 240 consuming

i think its something with how its flowing idk

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images of your set up

[unborn nova]

alr leme get a good ss

[zenith pecan]

I might try a more distributed approach this time though, building each refinery cluster above its well and moving the products via the tunnels.

[white dawn]

One possibility to consider, btw, though it would require rebuilding: Instead of combining all your fuel output into one set of pipes, have the refineries output their fuel to exactly the amount of Fuel Gens they support

Far less likelihood of running into weird fluid problems

So each fuel-producting refinery is its own little "module," with an attached fuel gen or two

[fluid sapphire]

maximizing pipe throughput is overrated

[unkempt blade]

I vote for "take all the oil in the spire and use trains to move it all the way to the other side of the map"

[wicked nacelle]

Except for where it’s easy like nuclear power I totally agree

[white dawn]

Packaged, via carts, yes? :)

[stray wagon]

Don’t spoil me but do heavy modular frames get used more in tier 4 or is it not worth to make a factory for them

[wicked nacelle]

But since it’s trivial to do for belts people assume that pipes would work similarly. Especially because the game gives no indicstion otherwise

[unkempt blade]

packaging is optional, lots of fluid cars could be fun too

[fluid sapphire]

they get used all the way to the end of the game

[stray wagon]

Alr how many machines do you think I should make

For the heavy modular frames

[unkempt blade]

all of them

[zenith pecan]

That's the approach I'm considering with the spire coast rubber & plastics production, though I do hope to get the refinery platforms to work with the landscape there for looking cool instead of nuking everything to clear it.

[tranquil maple]

No, no those are NOT fun.

[unkempt blade]

could just wait for 1.2 and use the mk2 factory carts with liquids instead

[fluid sapphire]

dont think you should make your whole game supply right now, even 1 per minute is enough to start, make more later

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message guys are these efficient

[fluid sapphire]

you can put them on literally anything considering you can nudge them any way you want

[sturdy mural]

no like
in a "supported" way
as in they snap

[fluid sapphire]

there is functionally no difference

[ornate saffron]

ya ther is a lot of things you can snap them to

But @fluid sapphire is correct. with beams and nudging you can place them anywhere

[sturdy mural]

other than my brain gets a bit more of the happy element

[unkempt blade]

do they make you happy? the only efficiency than matters is happiness efficiency

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah the architectural tools are actually remarkably powerful if you know the black magic of how to combine them in nonobvious ways

Feels like it’s mostly just emergent behavior

[velvet sonnet]

Can laggs cause an entire Factory to shut down for second ?

[fluid sapphire]

certainly the coolest set of tools i have encountred in a sandbox game

[barren arch]

is it worth making the alien power augmenter?

[tranquil maple]

yes

very yes

[barren arch]

quite expensive

[tranquil maple]

worth it

[wicked nacelle]

Sort of. Depending on your goals there can be much better ways to spend those sloops. But great part of this game is basically any decision can be undone at no penalty

If you find a better use for those sloops you can build more power and reclaim them.

[sturdy mural]

you know what does make me happy?

[barren arch]

i ask that because ill have to make adaptive control units, and idk if ill have enough power to everything

[wicked nacelle]

In full world all resources used builds for maximum build potential you don’t have an alien power augmenter. But that’s way past the end of the story

[unkempt blade]

pumpkin spice lattes

[wicked nacelle]

My cat is named pumpkin spice.

[unkempt blade]

he sounds delicious

[hushed lion]

That’s crazy

[sturdy mural]

no
#screenshots message this

[craggy vector]

YOO!! I’ve finally done it, made it from the grassy fields to the dune desert with no heals, no vehicle, no materials, and no hypertubes! Just sliding! Very cool but there’s nothing here so I’m gonna let myself die

[dense violet]

there's tons of resources

[wicked nacelle]

Start fresh and make some more factories to supply parts for higher tier stuff. There’s lots of great resource nodes out there

[unkempt blade]

I love it. It's nearly as amazing as @wicked nacelle 's cat

[sturdy mural]

time to check on my powerplant that blackouted

[craggy vector]

You see I’d love to but I gotta finish phase 2, I’m very early in the game (halfway done with tier 4) I saw let’s game it out go there and it looked cool, it wasn’t a fun thirty minutes so I came back to my home

[sturdy mural]

hmm doing great

[sturdy mural]

i'd recommend you make bladerunners if you haven't yet

[wicked nacelle]

that's the biggest single improvement in the game IMHO of all the tools

just being able to jump on top of a splitter is massive for early building

[craggy vector]

When do I get those? Is it MAM research or is it unlocked in a tier?

[sturdy mural]

ffrrr
imagine bladerunners mk2

[sturdy mural]

in the MAM, quartz tree

[wicked nacelle]

bladerunners are already silly when you watch someone else with them in MP

[sturdy mural]

you should be able to get it right now

[craggy vector]

Alright, what exactly are they if you don’t mind me asking?

[wicked nacelle]

faster running higher jumping less fall damage

!wikisearch blade_runners

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=blade_runners

[sturdy mural]

a lifesaver
you know the portal 2 shoes? pretty much that but better because FICSIT

[craggy vector]

Sounds essential then

It will be done

[sturdy mural]

pretty much essential

[dense violet]

the stuff in the MAM are pretty essential

[sturdy mural]

people who don't like them are maniacs

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, I suggest splitting your time pretty evenly between HUB and MAM research unlocks -- keeping them sort of in line with each other helps you be more efficient at both things.

[native tapir]

I didn't know you could jump in this game

[sturdy mural]

The more you know, Doug, the more you know

[native tapir]

The more I know what

[craggy vector]

Does it make my slide jumping faster? My slide jumping is how I survived everything from the grassy fields to the dune desert after all, if you know what I’m talking about of course

[wicked nacelle]

yes, slide speed is based on run speed

[sturdy mural]

random facts about the game

[ocean frost]

All my jumps are slide jumps

[craggy vector]

You’re a doofus bro

[remote crest]

Am I the only one that DESPISES using plastic and rubber in recipes? Also, unrelated question, is it possible to finish the game by cutting out plastic and rubber from the parts recipes?

[ocean frost]

Smashing your face against a rock with a parachute to gain elevation.

[dense violet]

Yes
no.
enjoy

[wicked nacelle]

plastic and rubber is the easier version of aluminum -- are you at aluminum yet? cuz you need to solve plastic/rubber

[craggy vector]

Can’t find quartz, that sucks

[wicked nacelle]

The approach I like is to have a big factory for plastic/rubber and then attach it to train lines so I can easily ship it anywhere. Same with aluminum -- they're both restricted in where the source material is located on the map. So I build products from that on site and then shi

[dense violet]

better keep looking

[remote crest]

I am at aluminum, kind of, I'm about to automate HMF before I do aluminum

[wicked nacelle]

look for the small deposits that you have to pickaxe then do the first ore research of that in the mam -- that puts it on your scanner

[craggy vector]

Thanks

[wicked nacelle]

There are lots of quartz deposits all over the map that you should be able to find fairly quickly - then once it's scannable you can find the big ore nodes trivially -- though quartz is often soft locked behind difficulty (spiders) or boulders (nobelisks to get rid of)

[remote crest]

Tbh I may do this, but I'll cut them out as much as possible, I just finished my computer factory using the silicone circuit boards and oscillators recipes

[wicked nacelle]

that's insane to me that you'd choose oscillators instead of plastic/rubber. Those things are my nemesis

[sturdy mural]

lizard activity

[wicked nacelle]

fields and fields full of manufacturers to make those stupid oscillators

this is one of 3 I think oscillator factories I have https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440138143369138226/image.png?ex=691d10a9&is=691bbf29&hm=680cf905e826dfc58b71e3330fdffd830310ea0e5745d63d1519360f3963fb3a& -- 50 manufacturers I think

[ocean frost]

I just want to shoot myself when I get to supercomputers

[wicked nacelle]

those are annoying but I hate turbo motors way more

[remote crest]

Okay so that's nuts, I just making 5 per minute so I can make 10 computers per minute

[wicked nacelle]

I think I'm around 200/m -- and that's not needed at all to just beat the game at all but if you keep playing to build more and more... it becomes necessary

[zenith pecan]

I aimed for 60 just for stores, the rest will be considered later.

[sturdy mural]

the lion does not concern himself with the issues of making 5/m of an important item

[wicked nacelle]

nor "using too many power shards" or "exactly how many refineries is that?"

[sturdy mural]

the lion does not concern himself with building hypertubes - 10 nobelisks + a turbofuel jetpack is a portable hypercannon

[wicked nacelle]

this game is missing the idea of rocket/explosion jumping

oh wait no pulse nobes? I don't think I've ever made one

[sturdy mural]

pulse nobelisks:

literally like in titanfall

[old bramble]

Well I made a dumb mistake today.

I learned do not combine raw ore on one conveyor line.

[wicked nacelle]

like different types?

[sudden flint]

ok so can one loop of mark 1 pipes feed 540 m3 of water?

[old bramble]

I was trying to do a Black Powder factory 😂

[craggy vector]

How far are you in the game

[wicked nacelle]

you just have to envision if there's a path the water could take without any single section of pipe having to flow more than 300/m

[wicked nacelle]

that's pretty easy to sushi belt if you do it right....just put 1 of 1, 1 of the other... repeat

[old bramble]

Just working on getting Phase 2 done.

[old bramble]

What is a ‘Sushi’ belt?

[sudden flint]

so because there's 2 routes of 300, it maxes out at 600 m3 it can supply on one loop?

[wicked nacelle]

where you combine multiple inputs to a machine on one belt in the right ratio

[craggy vector]

Same

[livid geyser]

Researched alternate Polymer Resin, and that looks good?! Oil into heavy oil and resin

[wicked nacelle]

sort of -- but you could feed it in the middle of the loop where stuff "eats" fluid before it gets there...

you can feed 300 from both ends but maybe another 300 in the middle for example if there was 450 consumption on each side of the "middle" feed

[wicked nacelle]

you want the other version of that -- Heavy Oil Residue alt (that's the recipe name)

heavy oil residue is the useful part and the HOR alt makes mostly HOR

[livid geyser]

Ah, I see. Okay, will skip that one for now then

[old bramble]

Gotcha. Mainly I was trying to “Smart” split the ore into the assemblers. But the normal splitter was splitting the coal and sulphur in one direction, so I had to build two separate belts for the ore.

[wicked nacelle]

The reason being the other alt you really want is called "diluted fuel" or "diluted packaged fuel" -- and that wants the heavy oil residue to make a TON more fuel from the same oil

[wicked nacelle]

you can feed both inputs on the same belt right into the assembler you don't have to split it back off

i.e. you can run a 2-input-type assembler recipe off just one input belt

[livid geyser]

Understood.

[old bramble]

So wait I can just feed the coal & sulfur in the one input channel?

[wicked nacelle]

diluted fuel doesn't unlock as an available alt until you get blenders which is a ways after you unlock fuel. diluted packaged fuel unlocks right away

[wicked nacelle]

You just have to make sure that the input ratio is PERFECT or it will back up and clog. But for black powder it's trivially 1:1

[livid geyser]

That make sense. I’m just in tier 6, and I’m just out there exploring as much I can.

Finding a lot of sphere and HD atm

Found a few of splatoons.

[old bramble]

I did not know that. Shit I feel stupider.

[wicked nacelle]

don't forget you can plop down a mam anywhere while you're exploring and start another hard drive right away -- and just leave the recipes it unlocks in your recipe library until you're ready

[livid geyser]

Yup, been doing that

[wicked nacelle]

it's not exactly an obvious thing... like it makes sense after you hear it since the different inputs don't say which one you have to use for which recipe input type... but the first time someone said that to me I was like.. "oh... yeah"

[old bramble]

Now I know.

[livid geyser]

Oh, out of bounds. Gotchu

[old bramble]

Anyway good news almost done with Phase 2 just a waiting game.

[wicked nacelle]

but it's a fragile design and if you interupt supply of one of them temporarily all your machines may clog and have to be reset by emptying their internal buffer inventories. But it looks sexy. You can feed an entire manufacturer off one input

[wicked nacelle]

make sure you're looking at doing the somersloop research when you can -- it's AMAZING for elevator parts

[old bramble]

Noted

[icy jetty]

jfc pipes and fluid flow in this game is sloppier than certain groups respect for others. just bulldoze the whole system wow

[old bramble]

Is compressed coal worth getting up and running?”

[wicked nacelle]

yes most people find it frustratingly opaque because of the hidden mechanics behind the simulation.

[ornate saffron]

depends. its pretty good for steel if ytou have the alt recipe

[old bramble]

I don’t have any alternative recipes yet.

[wicked nacelle]

yes, once you get the upgraded fuel types in the sulfur tree it's quite good. some would say TOO good

[livid geyser]

imo, save your HD for alternative recipes.

[old bramble]

There’s plenty on the map.

[sturdy mural]

wdym?

[icy jetty]

it's not even the hidden stuff, it's how bad it is at it. apparently you can't "just place a pump on a pipe" no you gotta "place the pump on the pipe, then delete the pipe, and put the pipe back on because otherwise the game throttles it"

[wicked nacelle]

I've never seen that.

[livid geyser]

Oh, I’m basing it off my walkthrough. I haven’t really seen the use for it yet, so if he’s still early game, then alt recipes might be more useful?

[icy jetty]

wth i can't link satisfacotories OWN wiki???

[ocean frost]

its the GG wiki not the fandom

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch recipes

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=recipes

[livid geyser]

I have plenty of spheres. I feel I should focus on the upload but is stack more useful at mid game?

[placid stirrup]

Stack is priority imo

[wicked nacelle]

just keep them within one of ecah other since the cost goes up. I find the opposite -- I find if I'm using more than the number of stacks I have the rate they refill is more important. But I always do tier-X of one then tier-X of the other before going to X+1

[livid geyser]

Yeah, I actually the upload more than the stack, but yeah, I’m just unlocking the 13 sphere requirement. I’m half tempted to go out exploring again to find more so at least that way, I have one more left for each to finish the tree

[wicked nacelle]

within the same research tier of each I wouldn't worry about it either way if you "misclicked" or whatever 🙂

[acoustic tapir]

yeah, with the way each tier multiplies in price, that's gotta be the way to go

[remote crest]

What would happen if I collected and used every single hard drive without having every phase unlocked?

[dense violet]

you could only unlock the recipes you can unlock

[wicked nacelle]

you'd stop being able to click the "research" button

it will tell you "no awards available at this time" or something

this can also happen if you have too mayn unselected recipes in your library -- you may have to select some to put the other one back in the pool to get on a research

and eventually you can have hard drives remaining after you've literally unlocked everything... so put them on a conveyor belt to show them off 🙂

[remote crest]

Okay so I can't accidentally miss out on late game alternates cuz I got excited lol, thanks!

[raw sapphire]

Haven’t bought the game yet and it finally became available on console, would it be good to buy and play solo or is it better to play with friends?

Well hope friends get the game and then play anyways

[dense violet]

you are effectively never locked out of any content.

[wicked nacelle]

it's super fun both ways IMHO

[livid geyser]

I’m enjoying it by myself. And I’m on PS5 too

[wicked nacelle]

it's a different challenge between single player and multiplayer IMHO -- best thing about multiplayer is if you have one guy that loves building factories and another that loves exploring

[dense violet]

depends w hat you want out of the game - if you're hoping for a good sand box where you become good at your own projects? definitely learn on your own first

[livid geyser]

Oh. I just used splatoon for the first time in a machine.

It doubles the output?! That’s insane.

[wicked nacelle]

sloop and yes. double the output for the same input but MASSIVELY increased power

they're fantastic for making elevator parts

[dense violet]

I mean you're duping things. So yes.

[livid geyser]

Yeah, I noticed that. It’s like 200MW for this machine. Geez.

[wicked nacelle]

BUT you can also use them to build the alien power augmenter which can DRASTICALLY increase your power supply

[sturdy mural]

how long are in-game days???

[livid geyser]

whew. I unlocked that too. Haven’t bothered checking it out yet but that is handy. Definitely need more sloop

[wicked nacelle]

They are quite handy 🙂

[ocean frost]

I use it to open crash sites 😔

[livid geyser]

Back to exploring then…after doing few things first.

Thanks for the help btw.

[wicked nacelle]

You're welcome 🙂

[versed mesa]

Hello all

[sturdy mural]

hello

[versed mesa]

Whats yous upto ?

[near thicket]

Janky but if I dump sulfur and coal into a depot I can handcraft nobelisk explosives with them until I get an actual setup, right?

[sturdy mural]

yeah, but you might craft the powder atp

[near thicket]

I just need like a few nobelisks for now and it would be way faster to just dump sulfur into a depot atm

[sturdy mural]

i mean fair, if it works

[versed mesa]

How many factories do yous have in each biomes producing ammo ?

[sturdy mural]

5 regular nobelisks/m and 5 explosive nobelisks/m in a single blue crater factory 😎

[versed mesa]

And what's the ideal number ti have ?

[sturdy mural]

for nobelisks?

you aren't using them constantly, so 5/m is good

[versed mesa]

Ammo factories

Maybe 2 or more

[sturdy mural]

factories?

[versed mesa]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

just 1 on the map -- and use dimensional depots to upload

[sturdy mural]

1 should be enough
its the output you shold worry abt

[versed mesa]

Ok

[wicked nacelle]

and honestly even quite slow production will build up quickly. When you're actually playing the game if you use a nobelisk a minute that's a lot (considering you use 0 while building factories)

[versed mesa]

Some times people mite buikd more just for something todo

[near thicket]

I would argue one nobelisk every FIVE minutes is over production

[sturdy mural]

except for pulse if you're like me
(nobelisk launchers)

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you really don't use that many even if you might use a bunch in a row

[versed mesa]

You mite be making an Army lmao

Armys to patrol each Biome lol

[raw sapphire]

Is there cross plat from pc to console or console to console

[near thicket]

After all that thought about handcrafting nobels I just remembered that setup in grassy where they put coal and sulfur literally kissing so that you can make nobelisks on the spot lmfao

I'm so bad at this game

[versed mesa]

When can we make our Satisfactory Armys factories for producing AI army

[versed mesa]

I dont think from pc I mite be wrong

[dense violet]

just console to console

[raw sapphire]

Damn

[versed mesa]

You and me both but I could be slite better than you but still terrible lmfao

[raw sapphire]

Those who have it on both console and pc is the controller support feel the same? I’m not use to gaming m&k and I’m hoping the controller support for the game is good on pc

[near thicket]

Love the comedy of underclocking a pure coal node to 15 coal/min for starting obelisks

[wicked nacelle]

I play on steam deck sometimes and that works well though that has touch pads

I would never CHOOSE to play it on controller if I had mouse/keyboard but .. it's not unplayable even for someone who hates controllers

[dense violet]

Playing this game with a controller is how I would torture the worst people

[raw sapphire]

I eventually want to go full pc switch but I don’t know when I’ll stop using my Xbox, the area my pc is at isn’t very optimal for air circulation but it’s the only place it’ll fit but I’m not sure how well my game will perform with a 2070

[wicked nacelle]

anyone seen this? one block signal into a section is red but one is green https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440155901674786928/image.png?ex=691d2133&is=691bcfb3&hm=ab3595c8656740e10cde98181c9f8eca2741e48894a82a030b025761e8f691ba& if I drive a train in manually the green one turns red (as expected). Also , reloading didn't fix it. rebuilding the signal doesn't fix it

[dense violet]

2070 is fine?

as long as your cpu isn't a rock

you'll morelikely be bottle necked by that

[near thicket]

CPU matters way more than GPU

You can turn your graphics down, you can't turn the sim down

[livid geyser]

Found the recipe.

[wicked nacelle]

diluted fuel? or HOR

[livid geyser]

Alternate Heavy Oil Residue

[wicked nacelle]

once you get a diluted fuel recipe -- put those two together and you'll be bathing in fuel -- which is great for both power AND two of the other best two alts in the game -- recycled rubber and recycled plastic -- that basically make plastic/rubber from oil (once you bootstrap it)

[livid geyser]

Is it alternate diluted packaged fuel or I’m looking for the fuel itself?

[wicked nacelle]

diluted packaged fuel alt

then there are upgrade fuel types in the sulfur tree in the mam (that require a hdd to research) - those also multiply fuel efficiency for both power and other uses

[livid geyser]

I got that too, haven’t really picked up stuff from HD until now, just left them in the library while I figured out which is good

But yeah, I got that one too. Ayyy

[wicked nacelle]

that's a great approach to not pick a recipe until you want to use it -- because it means you'll get two new recipes to look at each time you research a HDD. That's super important as you're learning the game

[livid geyser]

I figured, as I saw from the beginning at tier 1 that I couldn’t unlock anymore recipes, until tier 3 opened up. Lightbulb went off, decided to just save them up and see what stuff I could unlock.

That way, I can ask advice for which to grab first for easier mid game.

[wicked nacelle]

other than the oil recipes I mentioned -- all the other alts just look at them and ask yourself "hey does this make my life easier right now?" and if it does, take it. All the other ones are basically optional if you want to use them or not

[livid geyser]

Make sense. I see Iron Wire too, that sounds useful.

[wicked nacelle]

yes, many of the recipes change the base type you make things out of and those can be super useful. That is a great example -- you can build wire/cable without copper

[livid geyser]

Praise the Lord. Copper are somewhat annoying to try and reach other node in rocky desert.

[wicked nacelle]

you still often need copper sheets but yeah, it can make your life more convenient in a lot of circumstances. And when you combine it with something like stitched plates (reinforced plates that don't need screws but do need wire) -- then it gets you back to an all-iron build

[livid geyser]

Sick

[wicked nacelle]

that said hatred of screws is overblown here. If you make them as you need them and right where you need them, they're not actually annoying.

[livid geyser]

I don’t mind screws…for now.

[ornate saffron]

screws are fine

[zenith pecan]

Tell me about it, hell I used the classic screw recipe in this place #screenshots message , the numbers gave me whole figures that resulted in 0 yellow lights once the place was up to speed.

[wicked nacelle]

oh I figured out my signal issue -- I had a rogue path signal before those signals

[icy jetty]

see's the the P button isn't listed in keybinds

also me: confused pikachu face...how did i learn that i could enter this flying drone mode then?

anyway the photo drone is great from a builders perspective. i really wish we could
-interact (like press E) while in that mode as well. as well as for a builder,
-have it show if the camera is level and to lock it into a level state

great way to eyeball things without the trouble of moving my character around

it would go up a level if i could
-read pipes or look at a buildings stats while in that mode...
-oh it would be fire if i could see those stats without clicking on the building (like it showed up as a text overlay while looking directly at the building/pipe)
--and if i could pin that text overlay so that i could see it even when i'm not looking right at it

[stoic steeple]

Is the Packaged Diluted Fuel alt worth the extra power cost of unpacking the fuel? Like is there a net gain in power rather than it being cancelled out by increased cost of producing?

[ocean frost]

It's worth it

[wicked nacelle]

HUGE power gain -- especially once you start multiplying that with the more efficient fuel types. The "diluted fuel" alt that uses blenders is SLIGHTLY more power efficient but it's not a LOT more power efficient

[ocean frost]

I wait for the blended alt.

Honestly you don't need the extra power in most cases

You have access to so much crude

It does have good ratios when it comes to building

[wicked nacelle]

having the ability to make more either power or plastic/rubber in one location has logistical benefits though.

and late game extra oil makes super easy diamonds

and you can blueprint the packaged diluted fuel loop trivially even including enough empty containers so that it's trivial to set up

[tropic sinew]

Has anyone realized that the Stupenduim predicted 2 major changes in the game way back when he made his first satisfcatory song?

[ocean frost]

You double your fuel production but have to deal with packaged water.

[wicked nacelle]

I'm guessing "who?" would be an answer to that question

[wicked nacelle]

but you can do that entirely within a small blueprint

and just pipe normal water into that blueprint and have that be the only interaction point

[stoic steeple]

I'm in phase 3 rn. I got the Diluted packaged alt recipe from a HDD and was trying to determine if I should use it or not. If the extra power impact doesn't greatly affect it then I think I will use it especially when I get the HOR alt

[tropic sinew]

In his song 6 years ago he said "you're saving the day", and every chorus was Construct, Automate, Explore, and Exploit. Back then, it was Construct, Explore, Exploit, Automate.

[wicked nacelle]

yes, it's only really useful with the HOR alt -- neither is useful on its own really.

[ocean frost]

The blended fuel is also around the corner but to each their own

[brazen coral]

Okay, so I only just now realized that the belts actually said the limit per minute in their description, I've been guessing this whole time trying to even out the output with the input just by reading how much goes out versus how much it's getting mined at a time xD

[wicked nacelle]

which one?

[stoic steeple]

I think they mean the one that uses the blender

[ocean frost]

Yep the blender one 😁

[wicked nacelle]

ah, diluted fuel. Yeah turns out blender is quite a ways away though. two phases or tiers or whatever -- past aluminum into nitrogen.

once you make a blueprint once the advantage of the blender is essentially zero.

ever so slightly less power but not meaningful

[stoic steeple]

How do I go about doing the blueprint?

[wicked nacelle]

have you made any blueprint before?

[ocean frost]

By the time I get access to recycled plastic and rubber im normally close to needing lots of fuel

[stoic steeple]

I haven't. I know that you use the bp designer though

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you just build whatever you want to be able to "stamp out" inside the machine, save it with a name then at the top of your build gun there's a tab called "blueprints" and you just pick it. You can assign them to your hotbars too

there's a little computer terminal on the blueprint designer that you use to save it

and there are 3 sizes of blueprint designers -- 4x4, 5x5 and very late game 6x6

[stoic steeple]

That's cool. I've been meaning to make one for my hypertube accelerator entrance that launches me through a hypertube at the speed of sound

[wicked nacelle]

Yep, that's one of my most used blueprints.

AND if you put inventory (like empty cannisters) in a building in your blueprint that becomes part of your blueprint so for diluted packaged fuel your blueprint can have all the containers/cannisters/whatever you need for the whole loop. so just HOR and water in and fuel out -- you never have to mess with the packaged stuff after you make the blueprint

[stoic steeple]

How do I setup the one for the container recycler thing

Oh you answered my question as I was typing

Lol

[wicked nacelle]

basically this (except I built it too close to the edge) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440166914369392783/image.png?ex=691d2b75&is=691bd9f5&hm=cc519ec30f7f86a18693e9aa8189bb6be0c0bf45f690e24281bbe822ee05b975& so I couldn't actually place the empty return belt (that's why it's red)

[fiery fog]

Quick question because I'm super curious. If I were to use the power switches and priority power switches to make separate grids for each factory I make could I potentially put a battery connected to each of those grids and if the power generators end up needing to cut some off would they still get cut off and would the batteries keep those factories running? Maybe my explanation on what I was wanting to do is confusing but that's honestly the best way I can describe my plan

[wicked nacelle]

you can make it nicer than I did -- that's just an example

[wicked nacelle]

the power system in the game is INCREDIBLY simplistic. The power storage stuff will keep everything on before smart switches start turning things off. Basically there's no benefit to doing "clever" power stuff in this game other than having a bank of charged power storage machines that are offline that you can switch on. I like to have ~30m of offline power available

[stoic steeple]

That's super helpful. Thanks!

[primal sigil]

this sucks, i made a new world, and after 12 hours into it, i felt compelled to reload my oold world.....and see how far i gotten in the same amount of time....and by golly i was smokin it, 20x the production kicking arse....i feel bad now, how can i be slower/worse ugh

[wicked nacelle]

so you'd pipe in water to the packager, HOR to the refinery, and then pipe fuel out of the unpackager

oh, and put like... 100 empty water containers in the packager in the blueprint

and make sure you're uploading empty cannisters to the dimensional depot from somewhere 🙂

[primal sigil]

im in a different location (north east desert, lower part).....and i have been focusing on just making a ton of foundations.... in preparation for non spagetti goodness...

[wicked nacelle]

otherwise you won't be able to build your blueprint easily

[wicked nacelle]

zooping is okay for foundations but making a 4x4 or 5x5 blueprint of foundations is better, IMHO. Faster to build, faster to unbuild

I also use "infinite zoop" mod on PC which lets you zoop out a rectangular grid of foundations not just a line

[primal sigil]

yeah, and after 10 hours into my new save, i found out they added zoop

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440168551963951184/image.png?ex=691d2cfb&is=691bdb7b&hm=23606df2e5343e75ec76b3aa0bb046344ea1749cd6767973b2a6870bd4efb1d1& infinite zoop mod

[primal sigil]

oh wow, that sounds sublime

[stoic steeple]

I'm starting to see how useful blueprints are

[wicked nacelle]

the only problem is there's no "infinite unzoop"

[primal sigil]

hehe

[brazen coral]

I found a lot of easily repeatable blueprints, especially with the smart splitters

Should be even simpler once I unlock the programmable ones, but I don't have access to computers until phase two is complete

[wicked nacelle]

They're useful for very specific things. It's VERY easy to spend more time getting a blueprint just right than you save from using it. My biggest two are a 4-refinery one for making pure-ingots and my hypertube cannon one. I have probaly 30 others but they were probably a net waste to make

[ocean frost]

That's what a save editor is for 😆

[wicked nacelle]

programmable splitters are nearly useless beyond what you get from smart splitters

[brazen coral]

I mean that's if you want to

I mean that's if you want to still send stuff down. Sushi belts is what those are for

[lavish bluff]

After exploiting everything in the grass fields, im tasked with things like phase 3 and oil production, where should I go next?

[primal sigil]

i dunno feeling discouraged bc my 1st save that i eventually logged 200 hours into, i was killing it, production wise, and the spagetti.....i wonder if i was right to begin with...dunno /depression

[wicked nacelle]

There's a really nice oil field along the west coast about midway up 🙂

[ocean frost]

Sushi belts are underrated, you just need to overflow them into a sink

[brazen coral]

That's what I've been doing right now they're awesome

[lavish bluff]

Ill check it out thanks

[stoic steeple]

I just watched a video about sushi belts

[brazen coral]

Any overflow I just throw into the sink

[wicked nacelle]

what do you need a sink for?

[primal sigil]

and sucks now, because i stacked my conveyor belts, tons of effort, now i see we got a belt stacker

[ocean frost]

Make sure it doesn't back up

[brazen coral]

But I'm also running a one-line belt for everything right now or at least all the basic components

[primal sigil]

thats what i did legman

[brazen coral]

Slow process but it definitely streamlines it

[ocean frost]

I used it for my frame factory

[primal sigil]

ran miles of conveyor belts, and ran them to my "manufactoring" portion...

[wicked nacelle]

I don't get it. If your ratios are right then there's no reason to overflow anything. It can just wait on the belt until you want it. or I'm missing something

[ocean frost]

It is quite nice to see all the items move down the line

[primal sigil]

instead of making basic end products at the mining site

[brazen coral]

Overflow happens when I have too much of one material so that just gets transported to the sink

Otherwise it holds the whole lineup

[final ruin]

Modulars dont help?

[primal sigil]

it was beautiful....i'd zoom back to base, go back to do something else, then look over see my ore/minerals just arriving, was great

[novel heath]

is there a way to keybind to mb4 and/or mb5?

[brazen coral]

Oh, I'm definitely using a modular setup where I have smelters and foundries on the first floor, then constructors on the second floor and then assemblers on the third floor

[ocean frost]

Just makes the belt work easier

But you have to program the splitters

[brazen coral]

Granted I don't have everything yet, but it's just for the products to make a lot of the frames and automated wiring

[ocean frost]

But that's what blueprints are for

[final ruin]

Not even close to that point yet. Just got it before the weekend

[solemn glacier]

you click on the action in the menu and hit mb4 or 5

[wicked nacelle]

I absolutely have bluepritns that take in iron ingots and output either reinforced plate or frames. and the overflow iron ingots just go right into the next copy of the blueprint

3x my frame blueprint https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440170650676498574/image.png?ex=691d2ef0&is=691bdd70&hm=348e1ecd81465f5a68a5d1c21ef3cac77e70a73db153f58073dccd844356ea59&

[brazen coral]

Right now I currently have lines running for iron, copper, coal and limestone as well as gold,

I have a spot for sulfur but I haven't ran that line yet

And quartz

[novel heath]

oh
it worked 😭 mb i swear to god last week it wasnt working

[solemn glacier]

computers: the only thing where you can do the same thing and can logically expect a different result

[brazen coral]

It probably would run slightly faster if I had direct lines from the resources into the stuff that needs it immediately, but I have it set up with two buffers between the first set of constructors and the assemblers, being that I linked 2 containers up together and had a splitter in between them so that if the first one gets stuffed full of materials, it'll move up to the second one and that one goes on directly up to the assembler line.

[sturdy mural]

||i like how satisfactory is secretly a cult game that brainwashes americans into using the metric system||

[crude ether]

how do people change their crosshair?

[sturdy mural]

diffirent things have diffirent crosshairs

or mods probably

[wicked nacelle]

there aren't really any meaningful unit conversions so you can just pretend they're anything you want

[solemn glacier]

ISO date is the only way

[sturdy mural]

iso?

[solemn glacier]

look up ISO 8601

[buoyant veldt]

Wassup fellow pioneers!?

[solemn glacier]

YYYY-MM-DD

[crude ether]

does the ammo change the crosshair?

[wicked nacelle]

it's numerically sortable digit by digit to sort dates

anything else is just arbitrary

[sturdy mural]

what the hell

[wicked nacelle]

DDMMYY or MMDDYY are both "linguistically" meaningless

[sturdy mural]

you could've just said YYYY-MM-DD ngl

[solemn glacier]

the - are part of the standard tho

[sturdy mural]

mb

as long as month is between the days and years its good ngl

[solemn glacier]

yes

[sturdy mural]

DD.MM.YYYY is amazing

DD MMM YYYY is great also (especially since i cant count)

[buoyant veldt]

I know it changes from standard rebar to explosive rebar.

[sturdy mural]

each ammo has a diffirent crosshair iirc

[sage sleet]

Hello there,

[ocean frost]

Hello 👋

[solemn glacier]

welcome

[sage sleet]

I have a doubt someone here might be able to answer,thanks for the welcome 😁

[ocean frost]

What's the question

[sage sleet]

Simce they released on console does that mean i can use my pc controller to play satisfactory from my Pc?

[solemn glacier]

i dont think so

[wicked nacelle]

you already could -- that was added in 1.1 and you can play on steam deck which is controller too

[solemn glacier]

unless you get steam link on your console

[ocean frost]

I thought PC had controller support

[wicked nacelle]

controller support was added in 1.1 as they prepared for console port

[ocean frost]

You might need to download something to map the buttons I know I did for my switch controller for other games

[sage sleet]

O jesus i had no idea I could ill take a look at it then thanks for the asist now I can be productive even in a more comfortable position.

[wicked nacelle]

if you just googled satisfactory controller support you would have found your answer immediately

arstechnica .... .com/gaming/2025/04/satisfactory-now-has-controller-support-so-theres-no-excuse-for-your-bad-lines/

stupid link remover

[sage sleet]

Yes, but I just discovered the Discord channel through tiktok scrolling and wanted to say Hi, I was going to go look it up on the morning.

It was kind of an Ice braker question

[ocean frost]

In ops defence it only says partial support on steam

[sage sleet]

Anyway thanks for the help y'all see you around the factories 😁😁

[swift loom]

no vcs in this server?

[ocean frost]

Nope

[wicked nacelle]

no. If someone wants to VC with you you can easily just DM call them.

the idea is to keep all the converstaion in chat where everyone can see it and contribute/benefit

[buoyant veldt]

When do you get nitrogen (and therefore rocket fuel)?

[wicked nacelle]

next phase after aluminum

that's also when you can use the different water and oil fracking sites

you're already making turbo fuel I assume? The different fuel types scale nicely with corresponding tech tier power requirements and you can use the same fuel generators as you increase the fuel types

so there's no downside to building out your fuel generator array before you get the later fuels

[rustic hare]

nope, moderation would be hell

[pine patrol]

okay. Priority power switch groups what do they do?

[wicked nacelle]

honestly nothing of use.

[pine patrol]

😔

[wicked nacelle]

just have enough power

[ocean frost]

Well changing the fuel type can be a nightmare

[wicked nacelle]

just disconnect it from production and "flush fluid system" or whatever it is

[pine patrol]

i meant specifically the groups part of it

[rustic hare]

shut down lower priority networks in case of overload before shutting down the higher ones
higher ones usually being networks that supply your power plant
but honestly, never used it, just produce a lot of excess power

[wicked nacelle]

D.U.N.

[wicked nacelle]

if you're not making enough power it can shut down differnet parts of your factory to not blow a fuse... but it's not really useful.

[pine patrol]

im chuggin along with my 13 MW

[ocean frost]

Might have changed but I would get fuel with tiny bits of excess fuel

Had to manually empty them

[pine patrol]

I mean specifically the GROUPS

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know what that means but if there's no inputs flushing pipe system resets the pipe to "unknown" liquid type or whatever - the groups are prioritized by number I think in terms of what shuts off first/next/etc

[wicked nacelle]

yes that's what I was talking about

[pine patrol]

and 20 MW max consumtion

[wicked nacelle]

unless you're the kind of player who never wants machines to turn off, max consumption isn't that meaningufl

[ocean frost]

The buffer in the fuel gen

[pine patrol]

I meant the number groups go make a priority power switch and go to circut breaker priority

[dense violet]

if you have a cable going out of your power station to the rest of hte world , and have a priority switch on it, you can make it so your power station never shuts off

[buoyant veldt]

I am not currently making turbo fuel. I am deciding on whether to start making turbo fuel or wait until I unlock rocket fuel. I just finished Space elevator phase 3.

[dense violet]

you do that by making it the highest priority group
each group will shut off in order until power requirements are met

[pine patrol]

i know what a priority power switch does im taling about the groups 😔

[wicked nacelle]

cobalt's answer is naive for more complex power systems that require external sources to keep running. If your train shuts down then anything you delivery by train won't get there and your power station will shut down

[dense violet]

literally just explained that

[wicked nacelle]

and so did I

[pine patrol]

you said nothing about the groups

[rustic hare]

depends on you, but personally I skipped from normal fuel directly to rocket using the alt recipe, never went through making turbo

[dense violet]

#satisfactory message

[pine patrol]

so 1 will shut off last? Am i getting that right and 8 will shut off first?

[quick hound]

What happens if I drink rocket fuel?

[dense violet]

Can't recall what the number order is. You can look at the wiki for that. But basically yes

[wicked nacelle]

Just don’t fart by an open flame

[rustic hare]

idk, try

[quick hound]

Hey it tastes pretty go

[rustic hare]

so I'm allowed to burp?

[wicked nacelle]

Turns you into a human pulse nobelisk

[ocean frost]

Days since last accident resets

[quick hound]

Mine is -63 days since last accident.. I think it means I’m too good at living

[wicked nacelle]

-1. I have an accident scheduled for tomorrow

[wicked nacelle]

Kiss me baby one more time

[ocean frost]

I think that jest means you have had 63 days of back to back accidents

[quick hound]

Hey I’m gonna try drinking rocket fuel again.. it tastes a bit like flatline noises

okay, it tastes really good. like lemonade

10/10 would drink and die again

[carmine bear]

dude 😭
satisfactory is getting harder to run than helldivers 2 LOL

[quick hound]

Helldivers 4 when

[ocean frost]

You can't drink a gas

[pine patrol]

my ps5 can run HD2 better than satisfactory

[rustic hare]

what is it vaporization temperature? maybe I can chill it down enough?

[carmine bear]

my pc's cpu is worse than a ps5's.

[ocean frost]

Super earth should invade satisfactory

[pine patrol]

anyways i need to expand my power grid i dont wanna go nuclear power as that was a pain in the ass to manage what should i use?

[buoyant veldt]

Which alt recipe? Most of the alt recipes I've found have been pretty trash.

[ocean frost]

Turns out we are working for the automatons

[quick hound]

Fuel generators

[little shale]

To start plastics, should I first look for oil fields?

[ocean frost]

Yes

[quick hound]

GUYS! IMMA DRINK SOME FUEL!

[carmine bear]

😔 is this why we keep needing new engineers?

[quick hound]

dear god, it tastes so good

ORANGE SODA! NECTAR OF THE GODS!

[ocean frost]

How else are petro engineers made

[carmine bear]

😭

[quick hound]

ada has 500 clones on standby. I’ll go through them in about a week.

[icy jetty]

riddle me this batman, WE are down below, pump, and then coal plants up high.

why oh why, when i turned the WE off to see what would happen - did the TOP most tank up high drain, instead of the bottom tank first?

the bottom tank has a pump between it an the top, so thinking about it: the pressure should drain the bottom tank first yes?

[ocean frost]

We can call it crude engineering

[quick hound]

I answer 🐟

[quick hound]

hey do you want to try drinking some fuel? It tastes like orange SODA

[carmine bear]

i can only hear Biden's voice when you say "SODA" in all caps 😭

[quick hound]

MINESODA!

[ocean frost]

That's something a spitter would say

[dense violet]

biomass

[icy jetty]

with clones that transfer your concious, so many deadly but maybe not so fun but fun possibilities

[dense violet]

since base nuclear is very very simple

[carmine bear]

so true, ngl. i dreaded it for a while, then i tried it. its not all that tricky. just gotta sweep the mess (waste) under the rug and into containers.

[ocean frost]

You can finish the game with just rocket fuel

[dense violet]

yeah very easy to store it if you don't want plutonium rods for sink or drones

[quick hound]

Yummy 🤤

[wicked nacelle]

I like the default recipes beyond fuel. Super simple and the recycling loops are incredibly straightforward

[wicked nacelle]

You can finish the game on bioburners, technically

[ocean frost]

You can finish the game on geothermal too

[rustic hare]

nitro rocket fuel, skips the step of making turbo

[quick hound]

but then how else am I going to eat wood pellets like a hamster

[pine patrol]

you say that like geothermal is bad

[rustic hare]

technically, ifff we can craft everything by hand (which we can't), a no electricity run would be possible

[pine patrol]

you just need batterys

[quick hound]

I think even Josh from LGIO would rather die than do that.

[ocean frost]

On the speed running version you don't even need power

Just dupe everything and call it a day

[quick hound]

Chat.. do not eat the caterium

[rustic hare]

why, I can't have shiny teeth?

[ocean frost]

Have a server of pioneer where everything is handcrafted and hand mined

[quick hound]

It tastes so bad, like eating chalk

[rustic hare]

best way to use friends

[quick hound]

Gill’s bringing back slavery with this idea

[ocean frost]

Someone add a whip to satisfactory

+1 to handcrafted production speed

[buoyant veldt]

Where did you start? If grasslands I have a suggestion.

[ocean frost]

Doggo harvesting facility next

[rustic hare]

my friend has his own way, just lead a hog back to me and let it target me
also we have the zapper remember hehe

[little shale]

yes

[quick hound]

I sentence you.. TO THE HATCHERS!

[ocean frost]

I know how to crouch to not agro them

[dense violet]

well you don't need oil that is in a field.
any oil would do

[quick hound]

Hey, do you want to drink some crude oil with me? It tastes like grapesoda

[rustic hare]

slavery was never gone, it just transformed from one form to another

[quick hound]

Facts.

[rustic hare]

a lil thick to be tasty though

[quick hound]

It’s called blending it with the blood of your dead clones to make it thinner

Ficsit does not waste

And it is not cannibalism if you eat yourself

[charred sandal]

is there anything that indicates your location height wise?

[quick hound]

-# I cannot begin to imagine the sheer confusion on outsiders coming into chat right now.

[charred sandal]

Struggling to line up train stations

[buoyant veldt]

There's a spot on the southeast of the map (roughly east/northeast of the grasslands) with several oil nodes, plus coal and sulfur for when you upgrade to turbo fuel, plus nitrogen for when you get rocket fuel. Oh and more water than you need for processing plastic.

[dense violet]

that would probably not be the easiest oil to get to from the grassy fields >.>

[rustic hare]

I build a train line to where I want to place the station, then align the station to that, and the factory to the train line

[quick hound]

Query, I drank an entire crude oil node. What do I do?

[rustic hare]

but if you are suggesting doing fuel in the crater then it's not a great place for long term, high volume plastic production, is it?

[dense violet]

don't tell the US.

[quick hound]

:(

[rustic hare]

did you drink it dry?

[dense violet]

they'll want to 'liberate' you from 'socialism'

[quick hound]

HOW ABOUT I DRINK YOUR BLOOD NEXT?

[quick hound]

Yes..

‘Twas thirsty

[ocean frost]

I think you need some good old fashioned Democracy

[rustic hare]

def hide it from the US then

you just saved us from a bunch of carbon emissions, great job

[quick hound]

:)

[quick hound]

I’m gathering my dead corpses to blend it into a me smoothie, want some?

[rustic hare]

depends on how those corpses were created

[icy jetty]

uh i think my clone smoked something because i'm seeing colors in the sky

[buoyant veldt]

But it's the most future proof I've found and the only issue is occasionally the fauna.

[quick hound]

how the hell am I supposed to remember how I dies 45 times?

[ocean frost]

I like to stick a nuke to my friends and blow them up at a random time

[rustic hare]

wasn't it the same each time?

[quick hound]

No??

[ocean frost]

Lack of heartbeat each time

[quick hound]

One time I died by eating uranium, another time from drinking rocket fuel.. twice.. and other various animal and factory related incidents

[rustic hare]

hm, then I'd like to drink that one time your adrenaline content was highest, prob falling down to the kibitz hole

[quick hound]

The what?

[rustic hare]

the kibitz hole, did I flinch?

[quick hound]

The time my adrenaline content was the highest was when I made a hypertube that shot me through the sky and to the killbox

[rustic hare]

nice, gimme that

[quick hound]

how in the fuck do I find that body??

[rustic hare]

the same way you found the body that was shot into oblivion

[quick hound]

Okay, found it, I scraped some of the somehow remaining innards into a barrel and blended it up (with the barrel ofc). Here is a me smoothie :>

[ocean frost]

So the world is flat after all

[rustic hare]

great, tasting it now flatline noises from euphoria

[quick hound]

blending dead corpses noises good biofuel

[dense violet]

futureproofing is pointless - you end up doing more work since you don't know what layout or production rates you'll need

[quick hound]

Sir, what do you think about TRAPEZOIDS!

[rustic hare]

pre-marinated with blended crude oil, body remains and barrel material

[dense violet]

you end up having to rebuild things and take longer all the while the tiers are basically just a tutorial to progress along

[dense violet]

No strong feelings one way or another

[quick hound]

I wonder if I huff nitrogen, will I get high?

[buoyant veldt]

It's still a useful thing to have a spot where you know you have what you need for the future.

[dense violet]

the online map always exists and 'knowing what you ahve for the future' doesn't require any building

bad arguments

[buoyant veldt]

Wait what map?

[rustic hare]

you'll get light that's for sure

[dense violet]

online maps exist - but also you can just go there. make a couple notes, and be done with it

[quick hound]

head explodes

[buoyant veldt]

I think at this point we're talking past each other and we enjoy different aspects of the game.

[quick hound]

Worth it.

Now I’ll be right back while I snort 15 lines of petroleum coke

[rustic hare]

have your ada spoken up about your "tests" yet

[little shale]

I’m enjoying the exploration in this game, but if I go back to my hub, how do I return to the previous area? Hypertube set up is tedious

[quick hound]

Yeah, she left me on read

Snorting intensifies

[rustic hare]

bhop there obviously

(unless you have the jetpack & a canon)

[quick hound]

Hey, do you want some petroleum coke?

[rustic hare]

also it's sorta funny how I can apply the bhop I learned from satisfactory in cyberpunk (both are on the ue5 engine)

[rustic hare]

yes please, they look crunchy, can I dip it into milk?

[quick hound]

You snort it

[ocean frost]

There are many ways to play but giving yourself space to expand it's the best way I have found to plan. Space to upgrade smelters for mk 2 and 3 miners.

Space for belts and pipes for future production.

Space for trucks, trains and drones.

[quick hound]

I’m eating quartz, is cromchy mmmm

[rustic hare]

kinda want to build a dystopian city like cyberpunk within satisfactory now, with it's own lore and mega corpos

[quick hound]

crunch crunch you want sum? Is very yum

[rustic hare]

wait wait, let me finish coughing blood from that time I ate petroleum coke

[quick hound]

You should’ve snorted it dumbass. That way you get brain hemorrhages. Bloods supposed to stay in the body, right?

[rustic hare]

do you serve mercer sphreres?

[quick hound]

No… I force fed them to a lizard doggo and now it’s purple.. and floating 2 feet off the ground

[rustic hare]

huh, I thought it worked like a shrink ray to inorganic matter

it acts different for organic matter?

[quick hound]

shrugs

[quick hound]

Here’s some quartz and SAM. Is cromchy

[quick hound]

do you like it?

[untold moat]

you mean megacorp, as its all FICSIT

[quick hound]

Fiscit is all. Ficsit is god.

[pine patrol]

i like how in the things we wont be adding to satisfactory video they talk about not adding renewable energy yet they have GEOTHERMAL GENERATORS

[quick hound]

And geysers

[untold moat]

thats not renewable energy. the planet will eventually run out of energy. it just will take a lot longer than we have to worry about. Don't forget the company slogan "Short term solutions to long term problems"

[buoyant veldt]

That's basically what I've done. I've got all the oil nodes in the blue crater at max overclock, which can feed up to 17 max overclocked refineries making fuel. Currently I am using about 6 of those refineries on bog standard fuel fed straight into generators. I can use the rest for planning turbo fuel.

[ocean frost]

Sounds good

[quick hound]

And with all the pollution we generate, it’ll be so horrid with smog that the planet will die ❤️

[pine patrol]

by that logic solar isnt renewable

[charred sandal]

Do hypertube entrances just use 10 MW at all times?

[placid comet]

If I have a pipe going in a 90 degree Z shape and want to put down a pump bringing fluids up, where is the best place to put it? The top or bottom facing horizontal, or the middle facing up?

[quick hound]

Hmmm.. because we have clones, what if we turned our dead clones into biofuel, wouldn’t that technically be renewable?

[pine patrol]

maybe

[dense violet]

as long as it's under the max headlift you already have it generally doesn't matter

[untold moat]

no, because with geothermal, we are actually removing things from the system, solar is just collecting energy that is being given out regardless.

[untold moat]

yes

[charred sandal]

Should prob stop building so many hypercannons everywhere then :3

[dense violet]

the sun will run out too, just like geothermal

[untold moat]

also true

[pine patrol]

what are we removing???

[untold moat]

or at least put them on their own circuit

[untold moat]

energy from the system

[pine patrol]

same with solar -_-

[charred sandal]

People having multiple seperate electric systems sounds like insane behaviour

[pine patrol]

like you said the heat is being given out regardless

[untold moat]

no, thats collection of energy. difference

[untold moat]

solar energy being delivered to the surface is much more than the geothermal energy.

[pine patrol]

its still being delivered regardless do you understand what geothermal is?

#screenshots message

[quick hound]

How do I switch the scanner? Like I need to change it so I can scan harddrives (on console)

[pine patrol]

right trigger

[charred sandal]

Man I need to balance 1200 + 900 into 1050/1050 and that sounds ugly

[quick hound]

It doesn’t work..

[pine patrol]

are you using the item scanner

[quick hound]

Yes, does it need to be object scanner?

[craggy vector]

What does SAM do?

[quick hound]

Is yummy

[craggy vector]

interesting

[pine patrol]

there is the recource scanner (for stuff like coal iron) and item scanner (for somersloops mercerspheres and nuts)

item scanner is an item

recource scanner is up on the d-pad

to use the item scanner hold right trigger

[kind rose]

moved to the location below for peak server efficiency

[reef basin]

#off-topic-media

[pine patrol]

tru

[buoyant veldt]

SAM is needed in the MAM for the "alien tech" tree.

[pine patrol]

mainly useful in late game

[buoyant veldt]

And mid game, given you need to get some before you can use Sloops.

[quick hound]

Am I able to choose what fuel my jetpack uses?

[pine patrol]

I meant mainly but what you said is true

[pine patrol]

you can choose a preferance

[quick hound]

How?

[pine patrol]

hover over the jetpack with your curser you should see a thing to “change fuel preferance”

[ocean frost]

It's used in the mam to unlock the best QOL features in the game

[cerulean sluice]

just started my second play thru and first hard drive is cast screws

[reef basin]

take the other recipe 🙂

[nova oriole]

guys quick question for the slightly more experienced ones:
I just unlocked phase 2 and was thinking of moving my whole base since I'm placed too south west, far from a lot of stuff

should I wait for petrol energy before moving or should I do it now?

[reef basin]

you should not "move your base" (neither you should have just one base)

you should build multiple factories all over the map (near resources they need) and keep old factories, no reason to move, if you can just build new

[dense violet]

the game forces you to expand - it's just part of the problem solving

[nova oriole]

I was thinking of just having one base, different factories scattered all across the map, and having the resources converge into one place that I would use as my main base

[buoyant veldt]

Yeah you shouldn't replace things unless you have to, you should expand.

[ocean frost]

You can make a new base or bring what you need to you really up to what you feel is best for you and your style.

[buoyant veldt]

Mega warehouse?

[reef basin]

if you mean "storage", then yeah, you can have that, but the game gives you tools that make it not needed

[dense violet]

as you're learning the game you'll be continuously expanding - it's not really feasible while you're still learning w/o knowing final item goals

[nova oriole]

Basically

[devout basin]

Just getting started on p5 anyone wanna join up

[dense violet]

eh, central storages weren't really mechanically valuable even before deimentional depots

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[devout basin]

Bet ty

[reef basin]

they were if you build infrastructure for it (and still are if you want to do depotless run 🙂 )

[nova oriole]

I was just thinking of having like ipertubes going to the different factories

[reef basin]

you can have that, but "main base" is imo just where your hub and space elevator is. I wouldn't really build any storage or ship resources to central point

[nova oriole]

You think so?

[reef basin]

yeah, I don't see a reason to do it

[buoyant veldt]

It kinda depends on the items if you ask me. I am probably going to set up a train to get my plastic and rubber to my main factory. At the moment the only way I just passed phase 3 was because I filled my inventory with plastic to drop off in specific boxes at my main base to build computers.

It also depends on how much quick travel infrastructure you have set up.

For example it takes 3 times longer for me to go from my fuel plant to my main factory than the other way around because I only have a hyper tube cannon in one of those places.