satisfactory

[green fiber]

if its only for yourself for building machines and power connections and all that, sure

but for factories no.

if a factory needs 120/min cable and you only make 30/min, a container wont fix the fact that you dont make enough

[granite pike]

Do we know when they will have a fix for the Console part for the Multiplayer? I'm on Series X Console which doing everything alone is getting the best of me..😆 running ragged trying to make sure power isn't interrupted..😆 🤣

[green fiber]

hopefully next week... ish?

[quasi rose]

Epic games is such a bad option for friends bro wtf

[sharp basin]

It’s ONLY to get MAXIMUM of each component right now, first factory, without ANY foundations, just trying to have automated systems with countainers full of each component at the end of each chain

[green fiber]

the console update process is a lot slower than pc as i understood

in that case 1 or 2 containers is usually enough

if its not enough then you might actually need more production

[granite pike]

Yeah, I'm actually struggling with the Smart Plates, Motors & etc

[green fiber]

sounds like you need more coal power plants

[granite pike]

I'm still using the Burners I have 8 up & running..

The closest Coal Node is on top of a mountain top that i cant get up there to.. I only have Up to Tier 4 but not everything is unlocked yet

[green fiber]

please consider unlocking coal power

[graceful anchor]

Hello, I'm new here. How many alternative recipes are there currently?

[green fiber]

Tier 3/4 and no coal power is literally torture

[glacial geyser]

i just thoght that it would be nice if for liquids like water you could simply have the pipes conected to a river or ocean and dump the water there so that its much easier to manage

[sharp basin]

For now I’m thinking 2 full countainers of every component

[green fiber]

like 100+

[graceful anchor]

Wow 💀

[granite pike]

Just curious what do I need to have just a storage for the Coal from the Mines then go directly to a Coal Power Plant or do i have to have a Smelter or constructor too

[green fiber]

Many players think that.
"Why do i have to recycle this shit?"
Because CSS wants you to, thats really it.

[green fiber]

go directly into coal power plants

[granite pike]

You need Water for the Coal Power Plant correct?

[green fiber]

60/min coal is enough for 4 generators and each one makes 75 MW

[glacial geyser]

i gues its a good answear but still would be cool for non harmfull stuff

[green fiber]

and yes, it needs water.
build the generators near water

and belt the coal over to water.
the other way around is a lot more difficult if you never did pipes before

[granite pike]

Well that could be a problem.. I'm no where near water unless I build power lines back to my Main Base

[green fiber]

yea.

build power lines back

[granite pike]

The Only water that is near me is like a little pond

[green fiber]

build all the stuff near water and only bring the power back to your base

[green fiber]

unlock coal power and see how many water extractors it can fit.
if its at least 3 then thats good enough

[crimson lantern]

Just bought concrete foundations from the awesome shop but can't find them, any ideas?

[green fiber]

customizer menu

[crimson lantern]

Ohhh ta

[green fiber]

its a "skin" you can apply to the normal foundations

[granite pike]

The Only Coal Node i have is on top of Mountain sorta.. My Main Hub is At Coords -35, 2822 on the map

[green fiber]

imma guess you are in a grassy area...?

[granite pike]

Yeah, I started on the Balanced one..

[green fiber]

Grass fields it is then.
Grass fields is kinda notorious for that.

[granite pike]

Can you actually go to the other area via traveling or is it just one area

[green fiber]

yeah you can

you can go anywhere

[granite pike]

Okay, I'm glad..😆

[green fiber]

i think i know the one. theres a giant crater in the ground near there too, right?

[granite pike]

Have you been to the Water Fall area?

[solemn crystal]

More of a 1.3 to 1 ratio iirc

[green fiber]

i have been everywhere i think

[granite pike]

I guess I could have the Generators there if there is a Coal Node near there..

[green fiber]

nope.
No clue what recipe you are using.
But default wire to default cable is exactly 2 to 1

[sharp basin]

@green fiber let’s make it 3 COUNTAINERS per item ✌️✨

[solemn crystal]

must be old info then, haven’t played since update 8 :)

[green fiber]

that quite old indeed

we have a wiki btw guys

!wikisearch constructor

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=constructor

[granite pike]

Is it okay if I DM you on this because I will have to scroll back which will get longer as time passes.. @green fiber

[green fiber]

sure. i may or may not be awake by the time you do write me tho

[granite pike]

Possibly.. lmao.. Its 3:33pm for me.. I'm generally up until 3am or so depending on if I'm tired

[pale dew]

is there a limit to how long a conveyor can be? wtf

5th one

[green fiber]

not really

[pale dew]

Then why cant i place no more

[granite pike]

Yeah, there is but not sure how long.. but it can go on infinitely just got to start a new line on the same line

[green fiber]

a single segment has a limit, but if you keep chaining them you can just keep going

[pale dew]

Yeah thats what i mea

n

[green fiber]

do you have enough materials for it?

[pale dew]

Yeah that was the problem

the thingy turned off and i didnt know

Hey not my fault gng

I literally couldnt see that

[green fiber]

Im jokin

But it is amusing nontheless

[pale dew]

yeah but thats weird that the thingy showing you resources dissapeard

now its back

[green fiber]

you can hide the menu with T i think

[granite pike]

Your power got turned off?

[green fiber]

unless you are on console, no clue what button it is there

[pale dew]

no

[pale dew]

yeah i mightve clicked t

[green fiber]

i tend to go to options and active "only show missing recipe costs" in gameplay options

[granite pike]

Oh that thing i thought my game was bugged..

[pale dew]

i play as it is default

[green fiber]

then it doesnt show as much on screen, only if something is missing

[pale dew]

Well now my alu plates aint filling

[granite pike]

I thought I know I unlocked this and it wasn't showing up then I found out I turned it off to show what I could make..

[granite pike]

Try turning the power off & back on.. sometimes I do that because its not working as it should but I'm enjoying the game though..

[pale dew]

Not the problem

Prolly water overfilled

[green fiber]

usually if something doesnt work its not the power that needs to be turned off and back on

[green fiber]

aluminum scrap production?

[pale dew]

yeah

i know whats happening tho

im overproducing 2x the aluminium water

[green fiber]

yeah thats... not good lol

[pale dew]

i need to start packing iot and sinking

[granite pike]

What are those Spires that look like wasp hives but its putting out Green mist that damages you

[pale dew]

cuz dunno what to do

[green fiber]

burn it in coal gens

if you make aluminum, you have coal or coke nearby already

[pale dew]

gas nodes

[pale dew]

You can burn it?

[green fiber]

coal gens use water

[pale dew]

no

Yeah i meant the white liquid

[green fiber]

oh alumina

oh you mean alumina not actual water

[sharp basin]

Should I keep 1 iron and 1 copper nodes running fully on ingots? And fill some countainers full of ingots, just for later in the game?

[pale dew]

alumina solution

yeah

[granite pike]

Why does a Coal Plant Need water exactly?

[green fiber]

ah yeah for that you really just need to reduce alumina production

[pale dew]

What do you think happens with the coal in a plant

[green fiber]

its a steam turbine and it boils water

[hard ivy]

the same reason as it does irl

[granite pike]

I would keep them

[pale dew]

Both the best powerplants (nuclear) and coal ones need water irl

[granite pike]

Oh didn't know that.. I learnt something new today..lol

[pale dew]

Listen, if its related to power generation its prolly steam based

[granite pike]

I knew Nuclear power plants needed Water to keep from going into a meltdown

[green fiber]

coal plants are not like diesel engine generators

[pale dew]

Like 90% of the time

[green fiber]

they dont need just a fuel to spin something

[pale dew]

They also turn a turbine

[crimson lantern]

Is 13 x 15 a good factory platform?

[pale dew]

with steam

both coal and nuclear are big boilers

[green fiber]

depends.
literally not enough info to give advice

[sharp basin]

Yeah? How many countainers?

[pale dew]

Its never enough.

[pale dew]

Dont future proof, leave it as it is

use it once you need it

[granite pike]

Yeah.. just a question have amy of yall gotten to Nuclear power plants ?

[crimson lantern]

Not sure how else to explain it.

[pale dew]

making em rn

[sharp basin]

Yeah you’re right

[green fiber]

just try it.

[pale dew]

It all depends on what, how and how many youre making of what

[granite pike]

Because I tried it in a Custom Mode but how does one protect themselves from Radiation

[pale dew]

And thats also not enough

just go with the flow build as needed

[pale dew]

Phase 4 stuff

[green fiber]

theres protective gear for that and that requires special filters to keep out the radiation

[pale dew]

usually just evasion

[granite pike]

Because in the Custom mode.. It was irradiated an huge area which I died from it

[green fiber]

why didnt you just activate godmode then

[pale dew]

red forest?

[granite pike]

There isn't any storage that blocks out radiation

I mean I spawned in like 1,000 Plutonium Rods & my character died like instantly

[green fiber]

no, only you yourself can be protected from radiation with protective gear

[granite pike]

The Plutonium Rods seems like the Best ones to use for Nuclear power plants

[green fiber]

if you are using Advanced game settings to cheat, just activate godmode

then you dont die

[deft wagon]

I beleive it is better to sink them

[granite pike]

Well, I thought in that mode it was already practically Godmode anyways..😆 🤣 😂

[green fiber]

in theory only not in practice unless you tick the box for it lol

[granite pike]

Well, I found that out pretty quickly when I died a few times straight in a row from being close to the Rods

[gleaming yew]

train paths are gonna make me end it all does anyone want to help me

[granite pike]

I had figured they would have a Dedicated Storage for The Nuclear Rods before it is fed into the Nuclear Power Plant

[wicked nacelle]

What’s going on?

[green fiber]

90% of the time the second station is facing the wrong way.
hard to tell without images

[granite pike]

I'd if I could but consoles Multiplayer will have to be Stabilized before I can do Multiplayer

[wicked nacelle]

The other 90% it’s the signal on split bug

[green fiber]

making up for 180% of all train bugs
the remaining 320% is signalling issues

[granite pike]

I Done the Train in custom.. I was like why isnt the Train moving & found out I needed a Train Station to power up the Tracks..😆

I liked the Train though I have thought of Putting it around Factories that are far away once I get to that point

[wicked nacelle]

@gleaming yew we are good at helping with train issues usually it’s something simple and a quick description of the problem gets it solved

[gleaming yew]

ok lemme get on and take a screenshot

[unkempt blade]

yeah and sometimes the answer is just to use factory carts instead

[gleaming yew]

the problem is the paths at the junctions

[wicked nacelle]

Make sure you have a signal you’re holding to show rail colors

[wicked nacelle]

What error are you seeing? Do the signals have an error on them or trains just not behaving?

And of course you can always just not use path signals and switch them to block signals to make things simpler and rule out certain issues.

You never need to use a path signal.

[unkempt blade]

that's my motto and its partially why I have intersections like #screenshots message

[south idol]

make a N x M foundation blueprint and pave as needed?

[crimson lantern]

N x M?

[wise junco]

cursed

[wicked nacelle]

Just make it however big you need it to be to do what you want. Why do you even have to figure out a foundation size ahead of time?

[south idol]

whatever blueprint you have avialable, I guess 4x4 at the start

[wicked nacelle]

Make the factory do what you want first then retroactively pretty it up if you desire

[unkempt blade]

You clearly just haven't played enough Skylines before coming to this game

[wise junco]

valid, never played

[wicked nacelle]

Leads to more creative aesthetic designs anyhow

[wicked nacelle]

Death waves ruined that game for me

How the heck they decided that was good. It’s like fluids in this game. How did that even ship much less never get fixed

[unborn nova]

would packaged fuel vs biomass make my explorer faster? or does it just last alot longer

[unkempt blade]

Once you unlocked some of the better buildings it got silly-easy to scale from there. Early-mid game had the worst pop mechanics

But traffic is way stupider than my swarm of factory cart routes is. CSS did way better at vehicles

[wicked nacelle]

Wiki always gives this information.

[south idol]

swarm of factory carts, I like this phrase

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch explorer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=explorer

[south idol]

a factory cart has one space to hold things right? can the vehicle building load and unload them?

[wicked nacelle]

For example with drones it breaks it out in detail by fuel type because it does change. So if you don’t see it then it doesn’t change

[south idol]

it can?!

[unkempt blade]

yeah they work with truck stations

[south idol]

oh my

[wicked nacelle]

You just have to be a sillymonster to actually use them

[wise junco]

@unkempt blade they called you a monster

[south idol]

I like this idea

[unborn nova]

ty

[unkempt blade]

that's fine, he's allowed to be wrong about factory carts 😄

[wicked nacelle]

A sillymonster to be precise

[gleaming yew]

where should i put the screenshot

it wont let me put it in this channel

[wicked nacelle]

Screenshot channel

[wise junco]

#screenshots

[granite pike]

@green fiber so 4 Coal Generators can run off of a Miner 1? Or should I go for miner 2

[green fiber]

depends on miner mk and node quality

put the miner down and check what it spits out

[south idol]

do you have footage of a swarm of factory carts in action :?

[green fiber]

60/min coal is needed for 4 generators

[unkempt blade]

I have a picture of them in a queue at my station #screenshots message

[willow jungle]

guys what do you think is the future of satisfactory? I finished my first world and basically never got to it myself, other then with other people. Will we get new phases? I know it's mostly just me, but I struggle to find a reason to play after having done everything and finished the game

[wicked nacelle]

Bomen are you combining one way and two way rails? Also damn colors. Red and orange are too close and one spot is hidden behind a building’s it’s hard to see.

[granite pike]

What I'm asking is say I want to make sure I don't run out of power or use over the limit.. Can Miner 2 Power more than 4 Coal Generators?

[reef basin]

as with most factory games, the reason to play is up to the person, you can stop playing, you can aim for self-set goals, whatever you like

[south idol]

whooooo, i wonder what the theoretical max throughput is per saturated truck station

[gleaming yew]

yes imma try to get a better picture

[unkempt blade]

it's a sandbox game after you've finished achievements. If you don't enjoy "make number of [something] go up" or more creative building you might just be done

[wicked nacelle]

It seems like it’s basically done for now. And honestly the game doesn’t need more phases. The last one was already pretty dull in that it adds nothing of interest to your logistics

[green fiber]

again: depends on node quality

[south idol]

im doing max nuclear fuel and 30 ballistic warp drives a minute

[green fiber]

check the output

[pale dew]

Holy fuck uranium rod production is expensive

[tribal ingot]

I'm new here, so sorry if this has been asked many times... But is it possible to rent a server for this game, if on xbox?

[green fiber]

afaik no, no servers for console

[wicked nacelle]

80 per minute is a fun challenge though not sure you can get there with max nuclear

[willow jungle]

yeah I get it, but I mean, such a game can be expanded sooo much, with sooo many new buildings. Do you think it will be done? I get the whole "player based progression", but just wondering if we will actually get more. It's not that it needs it, but I mean, they're probably not just gonna stop working on it and that's it, so I guess there will eventually be completely new content

[south idol]

max nuclear and all the resources in teh world doesnt get you beyond 42.9406 if the satisfactory calc is to be believed

[wicked nacelle]

That’s when I decided I was done with the game. 80 you really start running up against resource limits and have to be very careful (if you’re not just using a planner to do all the design)

[wicked nacelle]

What does it say max is without max nuclear power? It should say around 150 I think

[south idol]

planner says max is 73.1841 with everything in the world (ignoring sloops)

[unkempt blade]

We only know what's in #announcements and #dev-streams which at the moment doesn't sound like that level of new stuff. You cold check out the mod discord maybe

[wicked nacelle]

That’s wrong.

[south idol]

without sloops.

[wicked nacelle]

Ahh. Yes. That sounds right then. Max points at 100% speed machines is 480M/m

And it’s mostly BWD

[willow jungle]

I see. I'll look more into it, but I rlly do think they can add so much new content if the want to. Think of, maybe underground stuff, maybe caves, lava and so on. Or maybe new minerals, and new biomes too. I just think there's so much that cold be done

[granite pike]

Say the Node is Normal

[shy mulch]

Anyone any tips for tractors? I'm a fairly experienced player but avoided trucks and tractors forever cos they just seemed hassle. But I'm giving them a try now and I was right, they seem so unpredictable. Just for testing, I made 2 stations, one set to load, one set to unload, made a tractor and drove it a route (this seems an annoyingly imprecise way to set a route, but regardless...) I turned on autopilot and half the time it doesn't even follow the route, it does spins and random circles and sometimes drives miles away from the route. Wtf is the deal with these things

[south idol]

trying to set it up so i can have little nuggest of factory everywhere, not centralising things - and im taking efficiency hits for convenience (disabling recipes i dont want to have to deal with)

[green fiber]

then you get exactly as much as the miner say it will do in the build menu description

[south idol]

a tier 3 miner on a pure node, maximally overclocked, yields 1200.

every step away from that halves things iirc

[gleaming yew]

i put another screenshot if anybody has any ideas

[wicked nacelle]

Yes miner tier and node tiers each half output each step

[wicked nacelle]

Sure looks like some of your signals are facing backwards. Like on the rail on the right of the second screenshot the one in the middle ish seems backwards.

The side with only
One “screen” in the middle is the back and a train can’t go through that (unless there’s also a forward one on the other side in that same rail spot)

[green fiber]

the forward direction of a signal is the side with the 2 lights

a train can only go past a signal if it sees the 2 lights.

(exceptions apply - but not here)

[copper viper]

any console people have a fix for the game crashing 10 seconds after connecting to epic services?

[wicked nacelle]

It looks like your signals are randomly facing forward/backward on the same rail. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme reason in how you placed them on which side of track or which facing

Usually you want them on the right side of the tail when facing the way the train will go. There is a toggle to reverse that but you likely don’t want to use that

[green fiber]

generally, if you want a train to drive along a track, the signals on that track should keep facing in the same direction
aka the side with 2 lights should all face the same way along that rail direction

[south idol]

play the pc version. (jk - I'm sorry man 😅)

[wicked nacelle]

Apparently there are issues. You on Xbox?

[primal obsidian]

is there anyway to make 100 copper ore go one way and 200 the other way

[wicked nacelle]

Sure. A splitter and combine two outputs into one

[primal obsidian]

oh it just balances it out

ok thanks

[wicked nacelle]

100 each output then 100+100 is 200

[white dawn]

Should hopefully have a fix this week, per #announcements message

[primal obsidian]

oh i get it now

[lapis marsh]

25 hours in and not completed phase 2 yet. Am I cooked?

[primal obsidian]

no

[white dawn]

Nah, some folks take hundreds of hours to finish the game

(For whatever value of "finish" makes sense. :)

[wicked nacelle]

It’s easy to do thirds and halves in the game. Other stuff is harder but you can combine thirds and halves over and over. 25% is a splitter with two belts then a splitter on each of those

A sixth is half a third etc

[south idol]

oooh, what I'd really like is a variable power switch - you build it from several power shards and switch ingredients, and it power-shards everything downstream (but only downwards)

[cunning siren]

Time is not important, only enjoyment of what is now

[south idol]

so i can make my sub-factory operate at 50% to save power

[wicked nacelle]

You’re just “relaxed” 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

A little bit but it’s not really worth it

[south idol]

wouldnt really be a core gameplay mechanic, more just for the fun of it

[wicked nacelle]

While power scaling is exponential which sounds scary you’re capped how far into exponential you can go and the curve is very flat in that range

[fervent sand]

make a copy of that sub factory that is underclocked, and then power that one on and the main floor off when you have low power

slightly cursed

[south idol]

heh, slightly cursed indeed

[south idol]

heh, best I can come up with is to create vertical slices of factory and power each through a separate switch

[deep ice]

I can never find my dog I swear... I wish there was a Ficsit™ branded doghouse that it'd stay around, so I could always find that lil thing. After they improved the stuff they find for you, they're pretty useful.

[onyx yarrow]

anyone of you guys able to help us/me? me (xbox) and my friend (ps) are trying to play together but cant invite each other as its opening up the console specifik invite screen, any help/a fix would be appreciated

[sweet tusk]

The achievement for collecting all three power slug types is broken on PS5. You only need to collect 3 power slugs of any type.

[regal socket]

Hey! When building a large storage hug with smart splitters, do I set the outputs to Any Undefined or Overflow? Currently when I set them to e.g. Iron Part + Overflow, undefined things get stuck in the splitter. But when something is actually overflowing, Any Undefined will clog my belt, right?

[fervent sand]

overflow + sink at the end works

[spark sky]

Have I got the blueprint for you: #screenshots message

[deep ice]

Omg 😢

[spark sky]

I think Overflow only allows passing of the overflow of the item that you chose to filter. I think you want All for everything (including the overflow) to continue.

[shrewd palm]

why do stingers have such a large agro range i just had 3 of them chase me around before one started fighting with some hogs

[spark sky]

I think, and don't quote me, but the overflow would be used to feed another container, if you wanted to fill two (but then why not just have two containers joined with a belt or lift?). Perhaps one use might be to feed, say, rods into a constructor to make screws, but when that had filled it's lot of screws and stopped needing rods, the rest could go to another machine to make something else.

[brave horizon]

How big of a foundation do I need for space elevator

[wicked nacelle]

Power in this game is so oversimplified that no amount of power management is actually useful. Only thing that makes any sense is a charged bank of offline power storage but even that is really optional

[reef basin]

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[regal socket]

thank you for the info. items certainly dont seem to get stuck in the splitters with an Any output anymore, so thats an improvement.

[wicked nacelle]

Not sure if you ran into it but mergers splitters built on belt seams are bugged

[half notch]

Returning player here, (Console release yippiee) i need a refresher on good hard drive rolls. Ive got 3 rn all with re-rolls. What are the best ones to look for in the early game? Ive got cast screws (i remember thats a good one) and stitched iron plates rn. Any tips?

[shrewd palm]

at least 6x6 i think

[spark sky]

What do you mean by "belt seams"? Is that where you added a splitter/merger to the middle of a belt, but ended up placing it where two belt sections had been joined?

[wicked nacelle]

Just hold on to the options u til you find one you want to use. It blocks out those same recipes from showing up again if you don’t pick any

So that’s the best way to see the options available.

[dense violet]

whichever you find more convenient for your next build
anyone who tells you there are tiers of recipes is a fool or hates you

[wicked nacelle]

If you build a belt off a belt where the two come together is a seam

[turbid merlin]

I found this post the other week whilst looking around as well for this reason.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

[wicked nacelle]

If you put a splitter across that seam it may not work

[dense violet]

why do you hate them?

[wicked nacelle]

Most recipe value is based on play style. Other than basically the four key oil alts everything else is just different play styles

[half notch]

Yall are amazing! Thanks pioneers

[turbid merlin]

Hey hey. Some of them are nice

[spark sky]

I see, I guess I would not have considered placing one across a seam, I usually just put the splitter/merger down, then join it to the belts with new belts.

[dense violet]

@turbid merlin

recipes vary on 'good' depending on your situation, what other parts you're making, what other recipes you're using, what resources you have locally and what other recipes you're using in the chain

simply ranking them by tiers is as good as rolling a die.

[reef basin]

yeah, that's as good as a random list

[turbid merlin]

I know it’s all down to the individual pioneer and their available resources and play style

[dense violet]

There are generalist recipes, that, by their name, have general purpose. Mostly low tier items like ingots

then specialist recipes, that have more niche uses but very powerful with what they do

[wicked nacelle]

For me it just happens sometimes without thinking about it. If I come back to an old belt or something.

[dense violet]

then all you're doing is handing out a list to make people stop thinking about their choices.

[reef basin]

"best ones" heavily depend on your personal preferences. Any tier lists are just that - personal preference of someone, most likely not aligned with your own preferences

[wicked nacelle]

Heavy oil reside/diluted (packaged) fuel/recycled rubber and plastic are the only four I’d say are essentially mandatory otherwise you’re likely to be very frustrated with oil
Availability

[spark sky]

Well, as I said, it would not have ocurred to me to put one in the middle of a belt without removing some of the belt to make room for it.

[wicked nacelle]

Snapping splitters on existing belts is an awesome way to build

Hold control and just boom boom boom boom slap em down perfectly lined up

[spark sky]

I've been doing that on lifts, but that can be trickier.

[wicked nacelle]

yep. annoying part about lifts is that if you build a new lift off a merger/splitter its snap points are "1/2 unit" off. You have to do it again to get it back on what the snap point spacing you really want it on again

[ionic gate]

is there a way to stop a conveyor belt temporarily?

[regal socket]

Looks like Any is not the right setting. After testing it, about half the items didn't land in the right box and were sent to the sink. That leaves Any Undefined I guess

[spark sky]

Ah, that's why my splitters didn't line up with my biomass burners.

[dense violet]

delete a section

[wicked nacelle]

you can stop items from going down it but not the belt itself

or just put a nothing smart splitter on it

[ionic gate]

how to stop items?

[wicked nacelle]

do you have smart splitters? make it so no item can go out any exit

[dense violet]

delete a section. Of belt

[spark sky]

Hm, now I'm going to have to do some experimenting with smart splitters/mergers and sushi belts.

[wicked nacelle]

I see we have found a sadist

[gleaming yew]

i went thru all the signals and they are all going the right direction so idk what im doind wrong

[wicked nacelle]

one more screenshot pls with your changes

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 where people can post images and actually reply. Not in #screenshots

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, at this point it's probably worth posting there instead

[signal gate]

Can someone Dm me with tips and help or smt? I just got satisfactory and I want some help to speed up early game (anyone can Dm me and links are welcome)

[dense violet]

also is your train on the right hand side or left hand side of the path?

[spark sky]

Hardly, but consider it a science experiment.

[wicked nacelle]

just do whatever the unlocks are in the HUB and build a MAM and look at those unlocks. as long as you're progressing through those then you're making good progress

[dense violet]

honestly just mess around with it. It'll take longer explaining everything and you won't absorb it all anyway. You'll learn faster by trying

ask specific questions if you have a problem you don't understand

[gleaming yew]

left

[dense violet]

make a post then

[copper viper]

when is patching routine for console/how can i find out

[gleaming yew]

will do

[dense violet]

#announcements

[sharp basin]

⚠️ Guys, I JUST DIDN’T TAKE THE TIME TO EAT today but I have (I’m still tier 2) factories (one per node) that produce Iron Plates, Iron Rodes, Cables, Wires, Screws and Concrete (for each material, 3 countainers).
Everything’s running with the help of 8 Biomass Burners alimented by Solid Biofuel.
I THINK it’s time to move on.

[fair lily]

does anybody know how to adjust launch pad angle on xbox???

[fair lily]

yeaaa you might wanna invest in some coal

[tight crypt]

When building a storage hub on PC (console may behave differently), I have always used Left Output (item), Right Output (item), Center Output (overflow), and it runs just fine. If on a dedicated server, sometimes the splitters take a while to start working properly... usually a server restart is sufficient.

[dense violet]

you adjust angle while building it

[sharp basin]

Still no foundations. So just basic first factory to keep me going on.

[fair lily]

yea but like how
i’ve tried every button

[wicked nacelle]

having a screw factory will lead only to frustration because belts can't carry enough screws to handle your needs. instead just ship in iron ingots and make screws right near the machines that need them.

[fair lily]

in almost at phase 2 and i still haven’t used foundations

[wicked nacelle]

a belt of iron ingots can make a LOT more screws than that same belt carrying screws

[sharp basin]

Yeah that’s my next step but honestly Solid Biofuel is REAAAALLY good

[fair lily]

early game it’s fine, power can be an annoying resource

[dense violet]

it should be the same buttons that tilts things or move them up and down while building ?

[wicked nacelle]

it's the same amount of power

[sharp basin]

Too late I have a Screw factory

[wicked nacelle]

once you have chainsaw and have automated wood->biomass->solid biofuel->bioburners then yeah, but your power requirements are going to go up a LOT

[wicked nacelle]

what I'm saying is that that approach is going to frustrate you quickly

[fair lily]

wait your right mb

i was thinking that you would split the screws from a single constructed and send them to multiple locations

[wicked nacelle]

so when the time comes, don't make a bigger screw factory

[cunning siren]

A single geothermal gen is screwing my FPS 🤷 Whelp... time to get deleted geo 😆

[wicked nacelle]

may be time to delete your upipeline cache or something. it shouldn't be causing problems

[fair lily]

i don’t know how to do that either…

[sharp basin]

Yeah that’s what I did, with 8 Biomass Burners, works well enough for now

[dense violet]

i'd inspect the keybindings you have in settings

[fair lily]

alrighty i will

[sharp basin]

I don’t get the problem, what’s the matter with Screws?

[dense violet]

nothing wrong with screws, just can be awkward if you don't build around them

[fervent garden]

IVE DONE IT

[dense violet]

mostly just make screws right before you need to use them. Otherwise you need tons of belts

[fervent garden]

I HAVE DONE IT

I HAVE FUCKING DONE IT

[tall lantern]

what, found your caps lock?

[fervent garden]

I JUST BOUGHT SATISFACTORY

[sharp basin]

@dense violet Yeah but he said something about belts and screws?

[fair lily]

i figured it out but i have no idea what i pressed

[wicked nacelle]

yeah same thing

[dense violet]

screws take a lot more belt space as they expand.
More belts

[sharp basin]

Oh, I have very short belt circuits for my screws for now but the 3 countainers are slowly filling

[dense violet]

sure, but you really don't need tons of screws stored. They aren't used for anything except building other parts, so just use them

for parts you need

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message these BWDs are bad for my health, first time I've ever had to actually use my battery array....

Looks like it's holding on though.

[sharp basin]

Got it. Well, it’s done anyway. i’ll have thousands and thousands of screws.

[dim cradle]

I might start feeding them to the alien generators just to get more power later on XD

Phase 5 is so power hungry

[steel kelp]

what is a bwd

[fair lily]

ok i need a console player because i have no idea how tf i’m supposed to do this

[hard ivy]

you don't have enough power to make matrices worth using lol

[steel kelp]

i play console!

[fair lily]

how do you adjust launch pad angles??

[hard ivy]

a phase 5 elevator part

[steel kelp]

lmao i have never used them and im halfway through phase 4

[fair lily]

😭 well lmk if you find out

[hard ivy]

the same button as rotate but at the second placement stage

[fair lily]

oh my goodness i had no idea there was a second placement stage

[steel kelp]

it is probably just a matter of rotating them before u construct and after u confirm location

like with hypertubes if u have used them

[dim cradle]

Yeah it might be more efficient for me to just outright turn off the entire BWD manufacturing line, but it's also about the only way I can get power. Only sloop and geo energy, and a little bit of leftover coal.

[fervent garden]

Alright.. Gonna start satisfactory tomorrow.

[steel kelp]

sometimes it isnt pressing the rotate button but its moving either your camera or your character and it moves

[dim cradle]

I had to take down one of the power augmenters to get a little more production...

[hard ivy]

you'll spend more making them than get out of them. they require ~18 GW to make 5/min (enough for 1 augmenter). unless you overclock every encoder, particle accelerator and converter to 1% kekw

[dim cradle]

that thing's making 2 bwd/min slooped so at least this part won't last too long

[sharp basin]

@dense violet Wait, what if I use my Screw factory to feed a Reinforced Iron Plate production?

[dim cradle]

Ah then yeah I only make 2 anyway

I'd have to have a large battery array to get anything out of it

[dense violet]

that's fine? but you still just make however many screws you need. Tons of screws in storage don't really do anything

[sharp basin]

Wait no

[dim cradle]

If you want a real hack for screws, get the one that takes steel beams and turns them into 260 screws/min. Then sloop it.

520 screws/min for almost nothing

[fair lily]

let’s goooo

[sharp basin]

@dense violet Constructors CAN’T produce Reinforced Iron Plates

[bleak swallow]

Hey guys does anybody know if satisfactory is crossplay on ps5 and xbox

[cunning siren]

Or save your and just OC it... it's not like you are doing anything with your steel ingots anyway 😆

[dim cradle]

Yeah lol it's just for mk3 track

and a couple of other things

You can get alt recipes that use pipes for almost everything, and they're way less fuss to make

[waxen robin]

Yes just not to pc sadly

[hard ivy]

a real hack for screws is to not make them at all

[dense violet]

yes, you need assemblers. I don't know what you're trying to say

[bleak swallow]

Oh okay thank you

[dim cradle]

I think screws are fine tbh, I hate wire way more

[sharp basin]

I thought I could do Reinforced Iron Plates with a Constructor but obviously I can’t. I should move on to tier 3 now!

[kindred fulcrum]

Why are all my buildings at 36 percent or less. I am new and dunno what that means

[cunning siren]

Yea, gotta' do "fancy stuff" for wire until Mk.5 belts then not so much

[dense violet]

it means they aren't running constantly

not a huge deal, you're new

[kindred fulcrum]

How does one fix this

[dim cradle]

Actually how do you even see that percentage

I don't think I've ever seen usage percentage

[dense violet]

math the numbers so you feed the right amount of parts per min in systems

[dim cradle]

Somehow at endgame and have legit never stumbled into it

[dense violet]

the efficiency meters in machine uis

[dense violet]

also, just as a thing, those meters aren't very reliable.

[kindred fulcrum]

Got it

[dense violet]

just math things out, see if the lights on the machiens flicker

yellow means its not working, green/blue working.

if they flip yellow it means it's stalling for some reason

[kindred fulcrum]

Most are green but the belts arnt full. Some go from green to yellow

[dim cradle]

Ohh you're talking about that thing in the middle

[kindred fulcrum]

Yep

[dim cradle]

That's so small I didn't even notice it XD

[kindred fulcrum]

XD

[dim cradle]

I don't even pay attention to that thing, I just balance the inputs and outputs close enough and everything else takes care of itself

Every single thing in this game can be boiled down to recursively examining input and then the next input, and then the next input, and figuring out what you need to match it

Or sometimes when everything's making 0.25's or 0.75s, I just ballpark it, PITA lol

[kindred fulcrum]

My brain hurts

[sharp basin]

Shit my 8 Biomass burners are EMPTY

I really should look for coal

[wicked nacelle]

weren't you just saying how awesome they were?

[sharp basin]

Yeah

And then I finished my factories

[wicked nacelle]

HA HA (nelson impression)

[sharp basin]

And saw they had eaten everything

So I have to chainsaw the world once more

[south canyon]

i don't even own satisfactory, there's only one copy in my library 😭

[dim cradle]

they shouldn't empty out that fast tbh, but you should really rush coal power asap

having to worry about power is an annoyance unique to p1

[south canyon]

indeed

[sharp basin]

Yeah that’s my next goal

[south canyon]

set up 4 coal stations

[dim cradle]

well no sorry

having to worry about power is an annoyance for me in p5 as well.

😅

[south canyon]

why is that?

just spam more coal power, no?

[dim cradle]

I don't have any fuel generators...

[south canyon]

OH you mean phase

[dim cradle]

lol coal wouldn't even help here at this point

[wicked nacelle]

since bioburners only use fuel as needed, just adding even one coal burner drastically decreases biofuel burn rate

[south canyon]

don't you have nuclear power?

[fierce quartz]

setting up nuclear power sucks

[wicked nacelle]

This game is dumb in using synonyms to mean drastically different things.

[south canyon]

nuclear power IRL is incredibly autistic

[wicked nacelle]

or is super fun if you just enjoy logistics

[wicked nacelle]

no?

[south canyon]

it is... especially TWR and GCR designs

[fierce quartz]

True, once you have the first one going then its fun.

[wicked nacelle]

it's awful except better than all the other base load options

[south canyon]

any design that breeds U238/Th232 into fuel is autistic

[dim cradle]

I'm doing only sloop power and geothermal power. It's kind of a challenge when buildings start using 7GW+ when slooped...

[south canyon]

when is geothermal power unlocked?

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message see pic lol

[dense violet]

pick a spot with most of the materials you need

logistic in the materials extra you need

done

you can drone the Uranium Rods to the ocea to be burnt.
drone the waste to be processed (if you want)

[dim cradle]

or just transport everything you need back to one main base.

That's what I did, didn't mind it at all tbh

[south canyon]

is there any nice way to use the power zipline

[dim cradle]

If I was doing nuclear at all, I would probably set it up somewhere far away though.

[south canyon]

I want to traverse across multiple poles at once

[dense violet]

hop between the poles

[south canyon]

i don wanna

[fierce quartz]

well, yeah. but its alot of different lines and materials. to me its worse then creating a heavy modular frame megafactory in the desert

[dense violet]

then use hyper tubes.
or possibly power towers

[dim cradle]

Like I would just set up nuclear in the arse end of the map almost at the point where it starts damaging you.

[wicked nacelle]

once you have plutonium refinement and sink it it's not hard to keep the radiation footprint to a minimum -- you'd never know if you didn't go right near it

[south canyon]

bruh

why does nuclear power cause radiation 😭

[wicked nacelle]

even if you didn't you could just burn it whereever and then send it somewhere remote

[dim cradle]

Don't you kind of still have to transport the uranium in though

[south canyon]

only the spent fuel is significantly radioactive IRL

[dense violet]

from here you can change alt recipes to reduce and simplify if you want https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=eWHkbwFmaTq415syoMoO

[wicked nacelle]

assuming you are wearing the radiation vest a train car of uranium going by you eats nearly zero filters

and the uranium has to come from the same places, so you can't MAKE the uranium ore somewhere remote so you still need the radiation filters

[dim cradle]

Hmm... eh I'd still put it out in the middle of nowhere though, like where that one set of islands is past grasslands with nothing on it

Plenty of water over there too

[hard ivy]

and spent fuel is significantly mroe radioactive in this game too

[fierce quartz]

I tend to drone the fuel rods out to the middle of the ocean where my reactors are, then dump the waste on the island on the bottom left

[south canyon]

do nuclear reactors cause radiation

[dim cradle]

Idk how far I'll keep playing after I finish phase 5, but I guess if I do, I'll just set up nuclear for funsies.

Fuel is boring

[fierce quartz]

not the reactor, but the fuel & waste, right?

[south canyon]

oh

fuel radiaiton should be neglegible

[hard ivy]

not the reactor itself, but the fuel and waste in it yes

[dim cradle]

Wouldn't it be weird for the reactor itself to be radioactive

[south canyon]

yeah

[dim cradle]

Then again I guess your granite countertops are radioactive and so are bananas

and I have nothing to do for about 1 hour while all of these BWDs just pile in there >_>

[south canyon]

bruh why is there an alt recipe for charcoal

[dim cradle]

I can't build anything because I would crash the grid

[dense violet]

why not?

[south canyon]

can't be automated

[ornate saffron]

cant turn off your pasata?

[dense violet]

so? some things don't need to be constnatly on

[dim cradle]

well I realized that the recipe only uses 0.5 pasta/min anyway. So I just took the sloop out of it

This is already with the pasta at regular clock speed

lol

if the pasta was slooped I'm pretty sure I'd be screwed

I had to sloop the stupid dark matter crystal thing

[dense violet]

you never have to dupe anything >.>

[gleaming yew]

wait could the switches facing the oposite way be a reason for my tracks not working?

[fierce quartz]

you could set up a bunch of batteries since the particle accelerator doesn't draw a constant power

[south canyon]

any tips for getting into quartz caves

[dense violet]

sword the spiders

[dim cradle]

No I already did like... that's with batteries

[fierce quartz]

oh, rip

[south canyon]

n like finding the entrances

[dense violet]

the one in the rocky desert?

[south canyon]

yeah

[dense violet]

it has entrances on the east and west, next to the shores

[south canyon]

do I just look around?

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message These spikes are going over the production regularly. I think if I slooped another particle accelerator, the average load would be too much to handle

[fierce quartz]

its a fair way away from where the deposit shows on the map. The enterance is a long tunnel into the ground

[dim cradle]

Well 84/100 hard drives for the achievement so maybe I'll try to find some

[feral geyser]

Scan for coal, go either east or west, you will find the entrance near the coal.

The western one needs to be cracked open with Nobs

There is also a small entrance on the north shore a little ways away from the sulfur, but it's small and easy to miss, don't go for that one

[south canyon]

me when the Satisfactory is Satisfying (what?)

[timid sentinel]

I’m confused I thought we could have angled beams

[tranquil maple]

What is a stable ppm for sheets and casings? (Just for inventory not crafting)

[dim cradle]

... if this is how a mountain goat that has returned from extinction climbs, I'm not very impressed

Oh well

[feral geyser]

Change build mode

[azure reef]

is it worth automating tons of batteries and just manually filling like 2-3 containers for each drone port with them manually

[timid sentinel]

Thanks a lot

[south canyon]

what

how did you know

[shrewd palm]

not very much

[dim cradle]

The description for the explorer from the AI lol

[south canyon]

yeah

[tranquil maple]

Like 20 should be good right?

[dim cradle]

"Climbs like a mountain goat that has returned from extinction"

[south canyon]

how did you know I just made it

[dim cradle]

because I just did lol

wanted to use it for hard drive exploration but this thing sucks, power towers better

[primal obsidian]

finished supercomputer production on a multiilayer server

[shrewd palm]

sheets are only used in mk5 belts so you'll want a decent amount (10/min is probably enough once your storages fill up but it'll take a while to do that, 20 would probably be good)
casings are only used for a couple buildings so you'll probably want at most 10

[south canyon]

...................are you kidding me

[tranquil maple]

Alr thanks!

[south canyon]

i'm not streaming my game rn...

[shrewd palm]

actually sheets might also be used in something else but i cant remember

maybe nuclear reactors?

[tranquil maple]

idk

thx anyways

[dim cradle]

okay seriously does anyone know how to expand icon tooltips on the map

I still have no idea how to view node purity on the map with a controller, or expand radio towers

I've tried like every button

[sharp basin]

I just realized each of my 9 Biomass Burner is charged with like 150-200 Solid Biofuel

[wicked nacelle]

so you just overloaded it?

[sharp basin]

So Biomass Burners INDEED are reaaaaally good

[sharp basin]

No, they’re just loaded

[wicked nacelle]

i thought you said you ran out of powa

[sharp basin]

Yeah I thought so

[wicked nacelle]

that's not usually osmething people get confused about.. ??

[sharp basin]

Well I thought I was going to

[wicked nacelle]

yeah one good load of wood will run your early factory for quite a while

[sharp basin]

Then are realized the Biomass burners were all charged

[sharp basin]

Yep

I just found a pure coal node

Next to my started base

[wicked nacelle]

you got water nearby?

if you're in the southwest, then water is a PITA

[sharp basin]

Don’t think so, look, it’s the one at south

[wicked nacelle]

you have to run it down the coast from the waterfall up north

make sure you bring LOTS of copper plating -- and I suggest you bring 2-3 pipes of water down while you're doing it

[sharp basin]

Why?

Haven’t been there yet, don’t know what you’re talking about

[wicked nacelle]

because you'll eventually get mark 2 miner and be able to run double the coal burners there but you'll need double the water

drinking fancy wine out of the bottle - nothing says lazy saturday like that 🙂

[dim cradle]

They really needed to make an amphibious vehicle in this

dunno why all of them just can't be submerged it's pretty garbage when I'm sitting over here making theoretical quantum stuff but I'm stuck with a dune buggy

[sharp basin]

@wicked nacelle can I really use that particular coal node on the island at south?

[dim cradle]

At least make it a quantum dune buggy

[wicked nacelle]

what do you mean?

[tranquil maple]

wdym the southwest is quite literally an ocean

[wicked nacelle]

???

[tranquil maple]

southwest of the map?

[wicked nacelle]

yes - by the pure coal - there's no convenient water

I'm looking at the map right now

[tranquil maple]

oh i see

that one

[wicked nacelle]

there's a waterfall into the void (from the water you mentioned) as you follow the coast up to the north/northwest

[sharp basin]

Being very very far from water right?

[tranquil maple]

yea @sharp basin just use that one for steel

[dim cradle]

You might be better off just bringing the coal to the water, I did that a lot

[wicked nacelle]

bring the water down or bring teh coal up. - either is fine, the coal up may be easier for sure

[feral geyser]

The better coal spot is the lake to the northwest ish of the fields.

4 normal coals, a pure iron, copper and sulfur also nearby

[dim cradle]

Well hopefully they add more vehicles to the game at some point

This is kinda crap but at least you can't be killed in it

[wicked nacelle]

1.2 adds the stupid liquid tanker.. but really vehicles in this game all suck. Jetpack and hoverpack are what you use

the map sucks for vehicles.

[feral geyser]

Or just learn how to use the Explorer better, it really does drive pretty solidly.

[sharp basin]

I’ll look into coal and water cooling and everything very soon

[tranquil maple]

[wicked nacelle]

but as with all vehicles, there's just no reason. there are just better alternatives for EVERYTHING they do

[dim cradle]

Well like what's silly is we have drones...

Autonomous drones

Ride in them? NOOOOPE

[wicked nacelle]

but those are useful. I'm really confused honestly. "more worthless stuff, less useful stuff"??

[dim cradle]

Stand on top of them and watch as they have no problems taking off with you on them?

Yep! lol

[wicked nacelle]

drones can be ridden. If you can't, it's a skillz issue

like /s... sorta 😛

[dim cradle]

I want to pilot one...

why not just make them pilotable...

It wouldn't even be that OP considering how late you get them anyway

[wicked nacelle]

I've always found the existing transportation options to be more than sufficient. and that includes the late game portals to be dumb as hell.

[south canyon]

how do I use the nobelisk detonator

[dim cradle]

I think power lines are ok, but I still do think this game could use a flying vehicle

[dense violet]

hover pack

[dim cradle]

Not just because it'd be fun and useful but because... it's already there.

[dense violet]

put power sockets everywhere

[gritty phoenix]

I just unlocked trains for the first time

[dim cradle]

Like the game... has autonomous drones

[shrewd palm]

hold lmb (assumedly right trigger) to throw nobelisk, press rmb (assumedly left trigger) to explode

[gritty phoenix]

Fastest pioneer alive!

[dim cradle]

Just make it pilotable

[shrewd palm]

now the tism can fully take hold

[south canyon]

Neat.

that got rid of those studpid trees

[shrewd palm]

you can also throw multiple nobelisks before detonating them

[south canyon]

I haven't got automatic sulfur mining yet

[dim cradle]

Well maybe one day they'll add pilotable drones. I probably wont' be playing by then tho

[shrewd palm]

you can grab a few stacks of sulphur and a few stacks of coal and that should set you up with nobelisks for a while

[crystal quiver]

Hi, is there multiplayer Co-Op feature in this game and server browse or any kind of join other as public session, I'm on Xbox

[fervent sand]

Cyber wagon (forget what you need to do to make it fly though)

[shrewd palm]

there is multiplayer but no server browser

[dim cradle]

Just from a gameplay perspective it makes no sense that a drone can transport like a bajillion stacks of ore but not one human pilot lol

[shrewd palm]

i dont know how the multiplayer stuff on console works but you can find groups and stuff in #1201555265942724758

[wicked nacelle]

It makes no sense that the player inventory is massive

[shrewd palm]

well the ore is inside but the pioneer is stuck on the outside

[wicked nacelle]

The amount of mass in copper powder stack is stupid as hell

[shrewd palm]

and its a drone afterall, so no pilot needed

[fervent sand]

it’s a pocket dimension

[crystal quiver]

would you mind to explain it and is it like matchmaking or join oter world by listing session.

because there is a join button but nothing showing there

[shrewd palm]

the way it works on pc is you can set up a dedicated server and have people join it (i assume with a server ID, ive never done it) or you can host your own game and people can join via invite or pasting the session ID

im guessing its pretty similar on console but again, i dont play on console so i really have no idea

[crystal quiver]

ok, thank you very much

[azure reef]

okay so how terrible is this idea
add however many drone ports i need next to my battery factory which feeds into each one (probably just one per drone being used so they aren’t ever stuck waiting to dock although this will use so much fucking power) and just set all of my drones to pick up the batteries for fuel there instead of running around the map filling up containers with batteries

[shrewd palm]

it would be much better to just have a "central" drone port that distributes batteries across your world

and then the drones that do things that arent batteries just refuel at their home port or whatever

[azure reef]

alright, wont they take a while to dock if i have quite a lot of drones though? also can i set them to wait until the fuel is full until taking off

[shrewd palm]

the drone docking time is set and they fill up pretty quick (they'll take whatevers in the drone port and fill their inventory/fuel with that)

and in general it would be best to have at most 2 drones per drone loop (1 for one port and 1 for the other)

1 drone should be enough for most things and 2 will probably be overkill unless you're picking up things above 300/min

[urban bobcat]

Is oil power a good source of power?

[fair lily]

wait yall i have a question

if i have 120 iron ore/min, would 2 or 3 foundries be more efficient?

either 2 and i have a good amount of extra, or 3, but each one would be 40/min instead of the needed 45 for max efficiency

[urban bobcat]

I'm guessing so right?

[urban bobcat]

thats where ur going to optimed what ur miner

[azure reef]

okay so have one central drone point with lets say 30 batteries/min input for now or something then add it to all of my drone timetables?

[feral geyser]

3 clocked down to consume 40 each

[fair lily]

it’d be miner mk1 on pure iron node

[fair lily]

alright that would make more sense, thank you!

[dense violet]

sure? easier to make lots of power

[azure reef]

also how many batteries can fit into one stack and how many does a drone use per minute

[urban bobcat]

hm.

[urban bobcat]

cuz I just unlocked it and idk it seems a bit annoying to do whilst trying to make it look decent

[feral geyser]

200 per stack, and the longest path in the game uses barely 5/min (north coast nitrogen to the corner of Blue Crater)

[urban bobcat]

Im watching videos right now to get ideas and whatever but ill get there

[dense violet]

everything early on is annoying to make look decent

you lack practice and skills and objects and tools to make it easier 🙂

imo, I wouldn't worry about prettiness until after you've unlocked everything

[urban bobcat]

u right yeah

yeah I guess so

[azure reef]

oh alright thats a lot less/min than i assumed, is there any way to make the drones go to grab fuel from a central port ONLY IF they’re low on fuel?

[urban bobcat]

thanks

[feral geyser]

No

[dense violet]

learn the game, finish the tiers, then you basically play in a sand box mode creating your own projects 🙂

[urban bobcat]

What I meant is u should underclock ur miner to what u actually need

[urban bobcat]

yessir

[feral geyser]

Do NOT do that

[fair lily]

idk what that means

[shrewd palm]

using rocket fuel as a base here, regular fuel is good enough to last until rocket fuel and turbofuel is better off skipped imo
produces about the same power as nuclear, with basically no downside (can be set up in an afternoon as opposed to a few days minimum, uses less resources, and is much nicer on your computer

[dense violet]

have you unlocked 'clocking' in the MAM yet?

[fair lily]

uh nope

[feral geyser]

Do the Power Slug chain

[fair lily]

alrighty

[dense violet]

ok, go to your MAM and find out what you need to research for it (power slugs) and unlock it

it's your single most useful tool in the entire game for planning out your factories

[feral geyser]

Get it, then you can down clock to make numbers match

[azure reef]

alright thats unfortunate, can i at least make it lets say 1 is central fuel, 2 is production line input and 3 is production line output. can i set the timetable to go 2-3-2-3-2-3 (however many times i’ll do the math) then back to 1?

[fair lily]

oh shoot alright thank yall

[feral geyser]

There is no timetable for drones.

[dense violet]

using clocking to plan things out will stop like 90% of your problems before they exist

[feral geyser]

They only fly back and forth between home and destination.

[dense violet]

is this for drones?

[feral geyser]

Already answered

[dense violet]

have a dedicated refueling drone

delivering the fuels you need to the rest

[urban bobcat]

hmmm I see also why rocket fuel and not ionized? more difficult? and what do u mean by regular fuel?

[dense violet]

fuel > turbo > rocket > ionised

[shrewd palm]

ionized is a better jetpack/vehicle fuel but the power cost to produce it is WAY more than rocket fuel, by regular fuel i mean the stuff you unlock with oil processing

[azure reef]

there isnt? so would i need to make another drone just for refueling per drone port?

[feral geyser]

No, not per port.

[urban bobcat]

I see I see thanks

[dense violet]

rocket fuel is really boring though and you need hundreds and hundreds of generators to make a big system

[shrewd palm]

thats why i prefer nuclear

[urban bobcat]

mmmm

[dense violet]

just 1 to any location you need to refuel things

[urban bobcat]

dang lots of option alright

[dense violet]

the game is basically built around all your choices. Very little is 'wrong' 🙂

except sky infrastructure. I'll kill on that hill.

[azure reef]

alright im confused, so i can have one drone refueling multiple ports?

[shrewd palm]

you can build in the sky just make sure that you connect it to the ground

[azure reef]

well that makes my life a lot easier

[sour jewel]

So is it just me or is xbox multi-player having issues?

[shrewd palm]

nobody likes floating buildings

[azure reef]

ty

[urban bobcat]

yeah I guess u right I just wanna play in a certain way where it's like the most optimal, efficient and nice looking ig. but I gotta stop worrying abt that too much until I unlock everything

[hard junco]

hey first time using trains and i have tons of questions lol i am watching some videos about the basics and how to use them, i just wanted to know how much can a freight station hold i want to transport plastic and rubber i am making 200 per minute for each....if i load one freight station with both of them how many freight wagon should i use and will the one freight station be enough?

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[dense violet]

there's no single 'most optimal' path for anythign you choose to do. Sorry

[shrewd palm]

honestly in my personal experience focusing on whats the most optimal/efficient is the least fun. lately ive been focusing more on aesthetics while trying not to commit any major pipe crimes and ive been having a lot more fun

[azure reef]

does the blue dotted lines represent belts?

[urban bobcat]

I guess so yeah

[azure reef]

shit you literally said that lmao im slow

[urban bobcat]

yeah u right

[dense violet]

also, it's essentially impossible to use all the resources on the map, so 'most efficient' can also take a back sseat

[dense violet]

no stress 🙂
it's why it's convenient to have multiple drones share the same destination.

but honestly even if you have a lot of A to B paths, it's not a huge issue to have dedicated refueling drones for all of them

[woeful valley]

i wish finding hard drives was easier right now.. just starting ps5

[dense violet]

exploring in general is hard w/o the right gear
jet pack
zip line
medical inhaler
better weapons
guns

but becomes very easy with those

[shrewd palm]

probably better to wait until you have the jetpack and a decent weapon ngl, exploring is very painful before phase 3

[dense violet]

oh parachute is also still useful

[woeful valley]

i have a beating stick and exo feet 😂

[hard ivy]

And in my experience doing something inefficient with no practical benefit to justify it feels like a waste of time and is extremely unfun

[dense violet]

keep unlocking stuff in the MAM , tons of useful thigns for exactly what yo uwant to do 🙂

[azure reef]

yeah all of my factories are scattered around the map and im using some of my older factories for new stuff to save time (e.g motors making turbo motors) so i wouldn’t really be able to transport the fuel like that, i’ll most likely need a fuel drone and port for each drone

[dense violet]

and get to oil production for the jet pack

[azure reef]

starting to see the advantages of mega factories

[dense violet]

not a huge deal 🙂 once each destination if full of fuel the fuel drone will pause there until unloaded

[dense violet]

eh. If you don't start off from the ending poitn and plan every single step mega factories are more of a nightmare

[rough swift]

im d1 Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale Thing jumping athlete.

[dense violet]

at least if you care about it being efficient at all or tidy

[shrewd palm]

i dont really mean that i like to play inefficiently, its just that building with the best recipes or small little optimization things has taken a backseat to making builds look like something other than a bunch of machines on a concrete slab

[rough swift]

Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale Thing jumping is the best and most efficient thing to do in satisfactory.

[azure reef]

well tomorrow i’m gonna get a shit ton of power then

should i do nuclear or will it just cause more of a headache than anything else

[rough swift]

or you can just jump on a Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale Thing

[azure reef]

i say i’m gonna do something big and end up doing some stupid shit like that

[dim cradle]

You can be efficient without much planning or tidiness, but tidiness is the thing that takes planning

[shrewd palm]

up to you but imo you should

[rough swift]

no no that is the biggest thing you can do.

[shrewd palm]

i like it the most out of any other power source and its not overly difficult to get hundreds of gigawatts going

[rough swift]

nothing beats it

[dense violet]

a growing mega factory be eficient?
when you don't know what you want later how can you make the right or enough materials first?

at best you could just really shrink your new systems down to manage and/or probalby have to sink a ton of stuff to keep production going

it's possible but it's an ass ton more work

[azure reef]

i keep most of my stuff tidy as far as i can but i never end up making good looking factories

[azure reef]

hundreds of gigawatts? i have like 9000mw lol

[dim cradle]

it's just basic math. As you get better belts all you have to do is upgrade the miner and split off another line to make more foundaries/refineries, whatever

It doesn't take much planning to look at inputs and see how much you're using to make something

Mega factory can be done on the fly very easily, just takes planning to make it look good

[azure reef]

right

[shrewd palm]

all the uranium on the map gets you to 630GW, taking that to ficsonium you can push out iirc 1.4TW (but you wont have very much left on the map to use it on)

you can do the same with rocket fuel but that would be using most if not all of the sulphur and nitrogen on the map i think

[azure reef]

can i do plutonium fuel rods out of nuclear waste before tier 9 or not

ficsonium is t9 right?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[dense violet]

personally, I would just sink the P rods or use them in drones though

or trucks too

[shrewd palm]

yeah thats what i did last run

12.6 plutonium rods being used for the global drone network, rest was for the sink

[dense violet]

iirc 1 P rod pm = about 250 batteries pm for fueling drones

[shrewd palm]

something like that

[azure reef]

so how much power can i push out from a single normal uranium node without plutonium rods

[shrewd palm]

its like 0.001 P rods/min that vehicles use i think

[azure reef]

jeez i might do that instead of battery factory

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Od3chpF4FU5n6EGRWMAg

[dense violet]

that's a ways off though and you'll probably want drones to make the uranium and plutonium rods 🙂

[shrewd palm]

and i think its only that low because of the rounding the game does, in practice its basically infinite

[dense violet]

I'm off to do some spring cleaning, gl with your drones and nuclear 🙂

[dim cradle]

How long does one p rod keep a drone fueled?

[dense violet]

about 250x longer than a battery 😛

[shrewd palm]

@dim cradle ^^

so like 1000 minutes for one fuel rod i think

[woeful valley]

you ever try to purposely make chaos in a factory cube

[wicked nacelle]

it's not based on time, it's distance, btw. A drone can fly forever on minimal fuel of any type

[woeful valley]

spaghetti is more fun

[dim cradle]

I don't need to, I'm pretty sure my "mega factory" is chaos enough to pure chaos lol

#screenshots message it looks a little """better""" now that I'm making BWDs but yeah >.>

Although it all makes sense in my head since I know where most stuff is

[dim cradle]

I"ve been wondering that, so you can just keep using fuel in drones right

[wicked nacelle]

I don't quite understand your question, but a drone will hover forever if it's trying to land at a port that is in use - that consumes no fuel and they can never crash

[dim cradle]

I have one that's using 60/min to transport nitrogen so I was wondering if it needed to fly even further to the point where it exceeded the fuel stack size (100) if it would just be impossible

[wicked nacelle]

no, the drone won't take off without the ability to make a round trip, I believe - though it can refuel at the half way mark if the fuel type is matching (??)

[fair lily]

satisfactory story theme kinda reminds me of portal

[wicked nacelle]

and yes, I think the worst fuel types can make certain trips impossible

[urban bobcat]

question with the bi product the oil power generates. I put it in a storage container of course but then eventually it'll be full what do most people do with the overflow? just awesome sink?

[shrewd palm]

cant sink fluids so turn it into something else

[wicked nacelle]

"oil power" isn't a recipe

are you talking about resin? resin is great for making plastic/rubber

[shrewd palm]

i think mostly people will first make plastic/rubber, and then will turn the remaining oil and byproduct into fuel and burn that

[wicked nacelle]

and also fabric

[urban bobcat]

yeah that sorry

the bi product no? or is that called residue?

[wicked nacelle]

eventually you want the alt called "heavy oil residue" which is different than the liquid of the same name. then you make diluted fuel from the HOR made with the HOR alt and then the resin gets used to make rubber (which is 2x efficient than using it to make plastic)

[urban bobcat]

HOR?

[wicked nacelle]

heavy oil residue

[urban bobcat]

i see

[wicked nacelle]

anyhow, early game just turn the waste HOR into resin and either sink it or make plastic/rubber from it

but keep an eye out for those alts -- they're 2 of the best ones in the game by far

[urban bobcat]

heavy oil residue is just a hard drive optainable alt recipe right?

[wicked nacelle]

yes, the HOR alt recipe is a hard drive research

[urban bobcat]

cuz i can prolly get it

sweet thanks

[feral geyser]

You can also refine HOR into residual fuel and burn it for a little extra energy.

[wicked nacelle]

and then also you want diluted (packaged) fuel (there are two -- one packaged one not -- but the packaged one is available a lot earlier)

[wicked nacelle]

can you?

[feral geyser]

Yes

You won't get as much as diluting, but the recipe is available as soon as you get fuel gens

[urban bobcat]

what is this for sorry?

[wicked nacelle]

Oh, mb. base fuel recipe gives resin directly.

[wicked nacelle]

you feed the HOR from the HOR alt into the diluted (packaged) fuel -- it doubles your fuel production (or maybe even more I forget)

[urban bobcat]

woah what...

[wicked nacelle]

you add water and somehow water makes more fuel. water in the satisfactory world is basically magic

[urban bobcat]

that sounds confusing cant lie sorry

wait oooh

[wicked nacelle]

oil -> hor -> diluted fuel

[urban bobcat]

so its another alt recipe?

so get HOR recipe and diluted packaged fuel recipe?

[wicked nacelle]

yes there is "diluted packaged fuel" which is available early but requires packaging/unpackaging. there is "diluted fuel" which uses a different machine that you get much later but the production is.. somewhat simpler

and then (and this is where it gets a little weird) -- you can use fuel to make LOTS of rubber and plastic with two other alts -- recycled plastic and recycled rubber.

[urban bobcat]

dang

[wicked nacelle]

those four recipes are basically the most powerful alt combination in the game

[urban bobcat]

other than cast screws.

[wicked nacelle]

sure.

[urban bobcat]

lol

anyways so right now I prolly should just get the HOR alt recipe and worry abt the rest later.

[wicked nacelle]

HOR is pretty useless without one of the diluted fuel recipes. but just those two will get you a LOT of power from fuel generators

just those two are very good.

[urban bobcat]

oh I see

[wicked nacelle]

but if you see it, grab it 🙂 -- either one

[urban bobcat]

ye i'll do my trick to get it

[halcyon kite]

HoR alt recipe and Diluted Fuel recipe let you get 10 Gw of power from a single 300 node. It's so nice.

[urban bobcat]

so i dont got to find 100 hard drives

300 node???

isnt not 240? for pure?

[halcyon kite]

Also, save my brain... Why do I keep trying to figure out a way to make a base that is "underground" and above ground at the same time.

[wicked nacelle]

isn't it 150/300/600?

[urban bobcat]

underground for ur converyors? to make it nice?

[halcyon kite]

No, like in a cave system...

[urban bobcat]

pure is 240

[urban bobcat]

then idk

[south canyon]

is there an option to skip the loading screens ta the start of the game

[urban bobcat]

unless there is a mk 2 oil miner

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch crude_oil

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=crude_oil

[wicked nacelle]

it's 600 at 250% -- which is the only number that matters. You need to shard all your oil rigs

[urban bobcat]

oooh.

alright.

[wicked nacelle]

that's just fundamental 🙂

shards put the FUN in fundamental 🙂

[urban bobcat]

right right ok

[halcyon kite]

I shard everything once I start duplicating them. Which I don't make power shards until I can duplicate them. lol

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you know about slooping power shard production right? you turn slugs into shards in a constructor that is slooped

[urban bobcat]

also next to my oil nodes thing I have another one nearby that looks like a geyser but it is a oil node thing how do I obtain it?

[wicked nacelle]

that doesn't unlock until later -- when you unlock nitrogen. There are also water and nitrogen things like that

it's basically a fracking machine

[halcyon kite]

Slugs and Monster Parts can be sloop'd in constructors to produce double mats, meaning you get twice the Power Shards and twice the Alien Samples. Shards for Machines, Samples for the Sink.

[urban bobcat]

wait so power shards are more than just overclocking? it can make sommersloop?

[wicked nacelle]

You can double sloop the DNA that you sink for coupons

[dim cradle]

Add water to anything to make more thing. Copper sheets copper ingots, any ingots fuel, etc lol

[wicked nacelle]

no, you can make double the shards from a slug if you do it in a slooped constructor instead of by hand on the bench

[urban bobcat]

OOOOH

[wicked nacelle]

YEEEEAAAAHHHH

[urban bobcat]

yeah yeah well I knew it then forgot then now I will remember

[halcyon kite]

I should do that... Sloop the Remains and then Sloop the Samples...

[wicked nacelle]

and with the monster parts, you can sloop that in the first constructor and the sloop it again as you turn it into DNA to sink

[dim cradle]

Unfortunately there's no Diluted Dark Matter though

[wicked nacelle]

there's a mod that lets you make your own custom recipes 🙂

lots of people use that for turning refinery recipes into packager recipes since they have the same inputs

[dim cradle]

I don't have any mods, but if I was gonna grab a mod it'd probably the power armor one if it still exists

[urban bobcat]

power armour?

what that

[wicked nacelle]

well ever since they let you wear jet pack and blade runners it's not nearly as necessary

it used to be you had to pick just one augment at a time and it was brutal

[dim cradle]

Eh from what I remember, which isn't too much since it was years ago, at later stages that power armor was insanely good

Health regen and all of the resistances all in one and stuff

fast as heck and everything

[wicked nacelle]

you can have poison and radiation and jetpack and blade runners now stock, though.

[dim cradle]

Was really expensive to make though

The health regen was crazy high

[wicked nacelle]

only frustration is swapping jetpack/hoverpack now

that's cool

[dim cradle]

You could legitimately walk to the edge of the world and just stand there

well at endgame anyway

Turned you into some super cyborg

[wicked nacelle]

hoverpack running on batteries would be cool - it would make batteries actually useful again -- uniquely useful at least

used to be you could only run drones on batteries... which are odd because power storage is a huge battery yet is massively easier to produce than batteries

[halcyon kite]

I always put my baby Fuel Factory on the Gold Coast, along with a small Weapons Factory, and then Packaged Rocket Fuel for my Jetpack. Hoverpack doesn't have power enough for me. lol

[wicked nacelle]

yeah I do something quite similar

[halcyon kite]

The Crater Lake is for the massive Rocket Fuel power factory, to be turned into other things later. lol

[wicked nacelle]

if they fix liquids in 1.2 then I'll convert my oil back out of fully-packaged back to piped. packaging all my fuel distrubtion killed my FPS but it makes the flow rates SOOO nice

[dim cradle]

I think when we played 3 years ago we started in grasslands and put all of our fuel stuff on the coast so probably the same thing

This time from the desert I opted to go to that one crater area and put a fluid train there

has a lot of oil sources

[wicked nacelle]

the north ones?

or the ones in that desert passage way?

[halcyon kite]

I really want to try doing an actual start in the Desert, instead of turning that into my final Megafactory area... But then I start Grasslands or Rocky Desert regardless. lol

[dim cradle]

No it's in the south, has like one geothermal pure node in the middle

It's just one mostly circular water area

has like 6 oil nodes

[wicked nacelle]

desert start is fun. my second biggest save is there and it's fun

[halcyon kite]

Crater Lake.

[subtle lance]

sounds like Blue Crater

[dim cradle]

Was probably it yeah, I set up a loooong train station right in the middle of the lake lol

then train goes up and drops it onto the factory from tubes in the sky

Late game the beach is probably even better though

Has that one oil fracking source

[pseudo rock]

How well is the PS5 version holding up mid game for yall

[dim cradle]

BWDs are the most complicated item in the game btw, right

So the middle two items of phase 5 should be easier right?

Haven't looked at them much

[halcyon kite]

I still haven't beaten Phase 5... I started a whole new world for 1.0... And then another new world for 1.1...

[urban bobcat]

I got both alt recipes 🙂

[halcyon kite]

Kenichi, if you'd like it simplified so you can figure out how to make the blueprints easily, then TotalXclipse on youtube has a video he put out like... a month or two ago? It has how to build the blueprints, proper ratios for the machines, everything.

[urban bobcat]

I will

I typically watch dekoba and his playthroughs and not just blueprints videos but I prolly will with this

also does anybody uses the geysers for power?

[halcyon kite]

If you search for Diluted Packaged Fuel setup, then it's titled "This Recipe will 4x Power in Satisfactory" which I mean, technically right.

Geysers are "for fun" power... They're not stable. But they're a passive source. So tap em, just don't rely on em.

[urban bobcat]

I see

thanks

[dense violet]

You can rely on geysers just fine

the easy way? don't go over the minimum they produce?
the slightly more work? build some power storage as back up

and then you can use the average power supply

[urban bobcat]

thats what I thought as soon as derplyte said the are not that reliable so I was thinking once I get to a certain phase I;ll build a giant power storage there just incase

[dim cradle]

geysers don't oscillate all that much, so it's not hard to rely on them. Until you get to phase 5 and everything needs so much that all of the geysers on the map is what it takes to barely keep one production line of it going...

[halcyon kite]

I just like watching the Pumps go "gwooo" on them... lol

How have I played this game for this long and I'm still amused by the stupidest things...

[dim cradle]

Oh and 9 power augmentors.

if I was only using geothermal I'd already be screwed

it's like the equivalent of Goku raising his hands to gather all of everyone's energy for the spirit bomb and it looks like a peanut

[halcyon kite]

I wonder if I should build my Megabase for this save in the Red Forest... Just a giant sprawling tower system that overlooks the world...

[dim cradle]

I would do a megabase in red forest just to drastically reduce the spider population of the planet.

_>

While you're at it, make one in the swamp, too

[grizzled orchid]

I wish I would have planned more around having a silly amount of power shards for things, would have made the refineries and fuel gen areas much smaller

[grizzled orchid]

You know normally I try to keep things as natural looking as possible but the swamp is one place I could pave over and not feel bad about at all

[halcyon kite]

No Mason, that just means you need to build MORE!

[dim cradle]

There's building more and then there's me having to make 9 floors of 3 refineries each just to process the capacity of one pure caterium ore source with a mk2 miner because that's what it would take.

[dense violet]

don't even need a giant one 🙂

[dim cradle]

Where I could have reduced that by 2.5x if I just overclocked everything...

[urban bobcat]

somewhat big is the plan lol

giant to me

[dense violet]

you do you 🙂 You could try to build everything under ground if you really want
many options in the game.

[halcyon kite]

I mean, let's be honest, the biggest "constraint" in this game falls to one of two things. Either you build all of your factories really close and your PC implodes. Or you run out of power because you can't build enough Ficsonium Reactors to power them all. lol

[dense violet]

the 2nd one is essentially impossible

[vague creek]

power is a non issue

[urban bobcat]

I hope I dont get to the point where my computer cant handle the game

[dim cradle]

Power is an issue for me, but I guess that's self imposed

[dense violet]

build more power 🙂 it's easy and basically infinite

[urban bobcat]

I looked it up and the its more cpu demanding than it is gpu

[dim cradle]

I'd be worried about consoles not being able to handle your factory long before a PC will have issues

[dense violet]

thats often the case for games

[vague creek]

if you wanted 500,000mw of power you coul easily enough build it

[halcyon kite]

This is thee joke.