satisfactory

[cosmic pawn]

yes

[dense violet]

some people do it. don't know why you would though, you'd get through the tiers faster just ... going up the tiers

and then unlock everything

[cosmic pawn]

true but i should've said it was mainly just like a cool like box with my normal factory inside

like it's not just a box but a cool box

[signal shale]

that's what pretty much all factories are

[dense violet]

eh just up to whatever your priorities are

I don't bother with prettiness until I've unlocked everything

[cosmic pawn]

i guess you're right

[signal shale]

Anyhow, so far as I know, no one cares about using blueprints you designed yourself, and a teeny tiny (but vocal) minority would care if you downloaded blueprints from someone else. You do you.

[dense violet]

like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1209430140132659200/1209469887299198996/image.png?ex=68f035db&is=68eee45b&hm=84dd7e6031b6a85dfe914bba23dc928929af8b4b674efa7d6f06bca4570edb65&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2203&height=1216

[cosmic pawn]

kinda yes but not that level of extreme

but i guess i shouldn't worry about looks for now

[signal shale]

if making it pretty makes you happy, go for it.

[cosmic pawn]

i wish i didn't have dumb ideas that don't work out

[signal shale]

that's how we get better ideas.

[zenith fractal]

ideas may seem dumb until you practice and refine them

[dense violet]

dumb ideas work out better later when you ahve more experience and tools 🙂

[zenith fractal]

then they become good ideas

[dense violet]

you think that was my first curved structure in that image?

[cosmic pawn]

probably the 10th?

[dense violet]

... 2.5 nd
but I spent a lot of time on the others xD

[cosmic pawn]

i've just been taking looks more seriously recently in games i play so sosrry if i am being a bit much

[dense violet]

aesthetics can be important that's fine.

but cool design requires very solid basic skills of layout and planning. How you build machiens belts and pipes are critical to doing cool builds

[cosmic pawn]

true

[dense violet]

I mean you can probably tell by that image that aesthetics are very important to me xD

[signal shale]

some of us tend to have factories laid out on bare foundation and some like pretty. No shame whatsoever in building pretty. The one major thing I'd bring up regarding building pretty is if you unlock things that give you entirely better processes and then make you long to tear down the pretty and rebuild. That stress (I want to rebuild but it's so much work...) has killed more than one run for me.

[sick dragon]

i have decided my aluminum refineries will be out in a fenced "factory yard" and not in a building. is this because im lazy? yes. am i gonna say it was an aesthetic choice? also yes

[zenith fractal]

I only decorate a factory when I can say it is final

[sick dragon]

i mean its sort of final. in that its going to be my aluminum plant that i dont plan on expanding.

im basically taking all the bauxite in the swamp and turning into ingots and concrete

[signal shale]

good, the swamp deserves to become an aluminum plant

[sick dragon]

i already did the petroleum coke part of the setup. if there was more oil id take the 4 nodes near the swamp too but i dont wanna make a train for a small amount of oil

wish theyd make the geyser have a normal node :/

[signal shale]

I ended up belting coal in from the nodes just south of the swamp for my plant

[sick dragon]

im using electrode scrap alt

all the alts to get a 1 to 1 ratio

[signal shale]

I use alts to eliminate the need for silica and wastewater handling

[zenith fractal]

personally i used the red forest for my aluminium plant. lots of bauxite and coal.

[sick dragon]

i used some of that bauxite for a jumpstart of my casings and plates

[signal shale]

my current run is the rocky desert so I'm going to be pulling bauxite down from that node way up on the promontory rock on the coast.

[sick dragon]

refineries are just a pain in the ass to decorate and build around to make pretty. so im trying to see if i can make a bit of a factory yard of sorts. like fenced off some signs and lights but no walls or a roof

[candid torrent]

put somersloops in a particle accelerator and deeply regret it

but the pasta is flowing

[narrow canyon]

1.21 gigawats!?

[candid torrent]

i’m so glad this game has achievements now because i need to get all of them

even though i’m probably way far out from actually finishing project assembly :(

[crisp jetty]

do the lizard dogs teleport

[cunning siren]

They can

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=("oil plant" OR refinery) AND architecture

[cunning glade]

After like an hour I have the fuel plant working like 90%

Making 300gw got drones fueled up and drones too transport the fuel

I think next I redo my entire rcu factory

But first I think heatsinks can be used for them so maybe a factory of that first

[turbid merlin]

They can?? Mines still sitting in the same spot across the map for the last 10hrs when I tried to make it follow me

[cunning siren]

It's not common and it does happen, in my direct experience in my last playthrough and others here have shared about the same thing 🤷. Most folk are talking about when one "jail brakes" from a "involuntary confinement and item milking" situation. But I mean who could blame them at that point?

[candid torrent]

it took like 114 hours for me to spot and trap one local to my territory

[peak wasp]

is there even 1422 nitric gas on this map?

#screenshots message

[charred sandal]

There any good way to make it so that only overflow exits a container.

Like, I want the container to fill up, and then I want excess to go to a sink....

[narrow canyon]

Lots more

[cunning glade]

There's like 30000 gas I think

So much gas

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Smart_Splitter

[signal shale]

Hey, could we maybe pin a post about the fix for 100% CPU post-1.0?

[charred sandal]

oh sweet thx

[narrow canyon]

6000 just in 1 spot, near center of map

[cunning glade]

Get a better CPU

[signal shale]

nah, apparently if you don't cap your FPS you can wind up at 100% CPU usage, but capping at 60 FPS (or 120, probably) will save a ton of CPU usage

[cunning glade]

Well duh

[peak wasp]

Oh nice

[cunning glade]

If u have less fps less CPU usage

[peak wasp]

I play my game at 30fps myself

[signal shale]

I'd have expecteed FPS to be a GPU thing

[narrow canyon]

My laptop runs around 120-130 and not at 100%..?

[cunning glade]

I'm on a 12700k have a decent world and only have 50% CPU usage

Tho I'm 180fps 4k

[cunning glade]

Well think about it this way the CPU processes the frames so the more frames u have the more frames the CPU has too process therefore higher CPU usage

[signal shale]

I just wanted to suggest it, because I went from 100% CPU to like 40% when I adjusted the setting.

[cunning glade]

What CPU?

[signal shale]

and I never set "infinite" for my max fps that I can recall

uh, a dinosaur, I suppose, but it's still fine for most usage, i7-8700 3.20 GHZ

[cunning glade]

Min spec is i5-3570 3.5ghz 4 core

Rec spec is 5600x or 12400

[rose lintel]

Are there crashed ships that don’t have hard drives?

[cunning glade]

Not too my knowledge

[signal shale]

GPU is a 4060

[cunning glade]

U might have below min spec idk but u have a old cpu I rec an upgrade

Yeah def upgrade holy

[rose lintel]

Came across wreckage with a lot of material like 88 iron beams and steel plates and nearly 100 reinforced iron plates

Not seeing a hatch for the hard drive though

[dense violet]

probably on a different elevation

quite often they'll be above or below the main cliff of items

[signal shale]

not sure my case can handle an upgrade, and money's a bit tight to get a whole new PC right now.

[cunning glade]

Or in trees

[dense violet]

might only be the one in a big tree I think?

[cunning glade]

Who said whole new PC?

[signal shale]

there's research to let your item scanner locate hard drives

[cunning glade]

U can upgrade for pretty cheap now all u need is new mobo and CPU

Especially with how old urs is

[signal shale]

well, if I have to get a whole new case, CPU, and mobo (and maybe RAM? 16GB of 2400 speed RAM, looks like?) I don't know how to do that, and so we're talking more expense.

[cunning glade]

Unlikely a new case?

[signal shale]

how would I check?

[candid torrent]

just unlocked the converter rip even more of my sweet sweet aluminum

[rose lintel]

I am finding it odd the first crashed pod I found gave me a few basic materials and the second large piles of steel products

[candid torrent]

a concerning amount of my power grid gets completely shut down when i unplug my quartz pickup station deep deep underground

[dense violet]

is it disconnected a power station?

[candid torrent]

it was but it’s concerningly janky 😭

the factory that got hit was half way across the map

[dense violet]

yeah sounds like your power/cable management system could use some improvement

[rose lintel]

Oh….dies the game not have a true pause?

[candid torrent]

yeah somehow my entire western coast factory that makes t4 goods is connected entirely to a mining outpost

the consequences of not automating ai limiters until way way too late

[rose lintel]

Ok found a drop pod that needs 60 mw power to open….do I just hook up a power line?

[dense violet]

that's how you give things power yes

[signal shale]

generally you just carry the materials for a few biomass burners with you, and set those up long enough to open the pod

[candid torrent]

tether your main power with u everywhere you go astroneer style

[limber plaza]

idk if ur new or not but i just carry items to craft augmentor which draws 500mw on its own for hard drives that require power

[candid torrent]

well i feel new i never thought of that

[limber plaza]

lol my bad

[candid torrent]

it’s really obvious but that’s never once occurred to me

[limber plaza]

lol yeah easier

[simple mango]

Manually filling a matched set of Recycled Plastic and Recycled Rubber machines is uniquely satisfying. Dump one stack into a machine and two stacks come out for the other.

[limber plaza]

anybody got a good way of splitting belts nicely i needa fill 20 inputs of baux

[frozen oak]

it is pretty... satisfactory... when i fix the mistake and the efficiency meter goes up to 100%

[bronze atlas]

manifolds are the easiest/smallest footprint method.

If you absolutely want to use a full balanced splitter you will basically have to put splitters that divide by 3 each step down, with some fill backs when you have too many. That way will take a ton of space though.

[outer scarab]

You can also just have more production than input, so if it does stop, it ramps up super fast when starting again

I actually have a lot of auto load balancers build into my system so that other systems get faster when one stops

that way you dont have to sink anything

[limber plaza]

im splitting mk6 belts of baux in half beacuse i have all my aluminum in one place making 13000 alu ingot but i was trynna figure out how to split them nicely without making them look like sphagetti

[outer scarab]

I mean manifold is the cleanist looking

just put a splitter in front of each

[limber plaza]

it will clip look ill show u what i mean lol

[frozen oak]

how cool would it be where you can make screens that display efficent /output ratings, just like little control rooms ig overlooking factories where you can see the stats

[bronze atlas]

yeah id still use a manifold too

[limber plaza]

#screenshots

i need to somehow split them in there i agree manifolds would work just dont like the clip look of it was trynna see if anybody had another idea

[bronze atlas]

whats a clip look?

[limber plaza]

also i cant put a belt in between them for a manifold

[outer scarab]

i posted what I'm using

[limber plaza]

too close

[outer scarab]

its manifold

[limber plaza]

not pipes lol

[outer scarab]

what?

[limber plaza]

as in its clipping together

each input needs 600 baux and im pulling 1200 from a few

[bronze atlas]

well a manifold is the smallest footprint you can make, and if you don't have room for a belt, im not sure theres a solution at all. Possible i don't understand what you mean. But none of my manifolds clip together.

[outer scarab]

oh man I just realized I did my math wrong, rip

[limber plaza]

if u look at the screenshots u see how every input is stuck together basically thats what i mean

[outer scarab]

not really, its a bunch of spagetti

[limber plaza]

im not referring to the sphagetti i did

[bronze atlas]

yeah i cant make heads or tails of what you've built based on those screenshots, maybe if you labelled it with paint or something to hightlight what you're asking us to look at? All i see is a supply bus, which is where you are supposed to draw those off to your machines. If each line is 1200 and you need 600 at each machine then you just run the line to one of the machines, and slap a splitter on the line and run it to another machine too.

[dense violet]

considering you shouldn't trust efficiency meters, not much

[frozen oak]

what do you mean 🗣️ 🔥

[bronze atlas]

if your question is actually how to build from those lines to split to the machines, i don't think you are going to be able to split it all right there, you will have to take steps backward and wrap the lines around each other as you split it up to the machines

[outer scarab]

Hey, quick question, I am sure there isnt a way, but I have 325 iron per, and I want to max out a 1200 belt but the math is horrible, do I just merge what I can to max out a line or just round down and cut my losses?

[dense violet]

because their accuracy is questionable. Even if they don't say 100% they could be running fine.

[limber plaza]

they are already split here but i get what ur saying ill just manifold them somehow a few steps back

[dense violet]

what are you doing with the waste waters on those systems?

[outer scarab]

if you need space, remember you can snap mergers/splitters to lifts

[outer scarab]

hopefully he is feeding it back into the system

[bronze atlas]

you can merge seperate supplies together until you have 1200, but if your entire supply doesnt exceed 325 you wont be able to get to 1200

[limber plaza]

feeding back

[dense violet]

where though? doesn't look like any of hte systems re using waste water

[outer scarab]

so its 325 PER refinery, so i can use 4 refineries to max out 1 line, or I can split it closer to math perfect and have 3.6 refineries per belt some how

[outer scarab]

probably off screen

[limber plaza]

the ones connected are backed up because they are full others are not being used yet i still have yet to setup awesome sinks

[dense violet]

so you're feeding a bunch of different systems with waste water? not back to the ones that create it?

[bronze atlas]

in that case i would just run one of the refineries at 0.6 underclocking, it will use less power and deliver exactly 1200 units

[dense violet]

if so I highly recommend against that in general. Connecting up multiple systems together

[limber plaza]

no they are feeding themselves

[outer scarab]

yah thats probably what ill do

[limber plaza]

that is my aluminum plant set into blocks and hor and petcoke under #screenshots

20 ref of pet coke and 20 of hor

[outer scarab]

Krispy is there a reason why you are trying to squish it all together instead of building it with room?

[limber plaza]

im just putting all my aluminum in once place

its not squished pretty organized as far as the building places

[outer scarab]

no i mean like... my aluminum is just a brick of 2 by 30 refineries, but you seem to put a gap between them

[limber plaza]

ohh i dont like to clip anything

[outer scarab]

what?

I dont clip either

[limber plaza]

i left space in places for walkways and stuff for my design

[outer scarab]

no it looks like you have other buildings between them

[limber plaza]

ohh thats my blueprint

to split all the baux to 600 a block thats why i named them A1, A2,A3... and so on

every block makes 600 ingots and i have 20 blocks in total

[harsh valley]

I'm going to build my oil refinery and oil power plant today

Something tells me I'm in for a looong night

[limber plaza]

if its ur first time ye if not pretty simple

[harsh valley]

First i have to get a very big amount of motors

[limber plaza]

glad i have blueprints for all that stuff now lol

[harsh valley]

First time

[limber plaza]

oh shit have fun lol

[harsh valley]

I'm gonna try

[limber plaza]

u got alt recipes for that stuff yet

[outer scarab]

anyone know of a way to get around the micro movement when pressing mouse 1 so it doesn't move as you place something? seriously annoying

have you never had that happen to you?

[rose lintel]

20 hours in game. Don’t think I can even make that

[limber plaza]

ohh my b bro lol

u unlock it in the mam

[outer scarab]

I just drag a power line along with me to keep my hover pack powered and I plug in crashes

[limber plaza]

nope never happens to me

[outer scarab]

you must have very steady hands

[limber plaza]

coudlve been a doctor🤔

surgeon i mean

[rose lintel]

No worries. So far group seems very good to new players. Some games out there the player base treats newbies like they are beneath them

[limber plaza]

ehh theres some in here lol dont get too comfortable

[outer scarab]

pfft, you dont even have 2000 hours in yet? do you even factory game? /s

[rose lintel]

Not too worried. Considering I’ve had conversations with two convicted serial killers. Gonna take more then a few gamers who are too full of themselves to make me uncomfortable

[rose lintel]

Insert some joke about playing “like a virgin” while I try to figure out how my pipe works

[tidal ivy]

If 'respect' was a person some people here would be looked for by Interpol

[outer scarab]

I wish i could let people join my game but I don't trust anyone not to build something that doesn't fit the aethetic of the build :/

[rose lintel]

lol I was listening to a podcast where they were talkin about a friend who had an immaculate Stardew valley farm built….then he invited his friends to look around….

[true mulch]

That's why you always have to make backups

[outer scarab]

naw that's why you have a "with friends" save

The friend who introduced me to this game literally show me "how to play" by never using a splitter. He had 1 drill, 1 smelter, 1 constructor, feeding into storage and would just AFK for 24 hours to let it fill up

[dense violet]

that's why you don't have friends

[outer scarab]

friends only slow down your factory

I spent 10 hours making a factory kart race track and that is when they decided to stop playing the game

it was on HIS save too

[true mulch]

That's mean

[dense violet]

coward 😛

[sterile blade]

Same, replacing "aestetic" with "sushi" though

[outer scarab]

tornado of radioactive waste?

hide crates of radioactive waste in the foundations

[tidal ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpsons-radioactive-nuclear-gif-23772553

Ew no gifs

[outer scarab]

does everyone use zoop as defult?

[tidal ivy]

Yes

🫡

I only use default when i need a very precise nudge

[outer scarab]

does anyone else hate conveyer poles as much as I do that they wish they could turn them off auto build?

why does "straight" work for everything other than building straight.....

[cunning siren]

I've started using the double Mk.1 wall outlets cuz they are cheap AND provide MORE connections than the more expensive Mk.2 pole! I mean, why would I not do that?

[outer scarab]

idk, I always use Mk1 for everything other than like one instance I want more than 4 connections instead of a sea of wires, which is what I do want

i want to point out that my use of splitters to space out my belts is by far the best use of them

[prime rampart]

hi

[outer scarab]

my 4 belts in, 14 belts out iron is finally done... its so pretty

now to do copper

so glad i caught my mistake, I almost did a 4 in 8 out... I was looking at the wrong number when calculating output :/

[hard ivy]

If you consider a mk2 pole "expensive", I feel like your factory has bigger issues than powerline management

[prime rampart]

they r literally the same except for the wire part

[outer scarab]

can you rename your elevator floors?

[cunning siren]

I consider it more expensive for less performance 🤷

[outer scarab]

some people hate wires

I love them, so I like mk1

[cunning siren]

No, one costs more and the other provides 1 more connection so very diffrent I would say

[outer scarab]

the real question is did you know that wires cost more the farther apart they are?

and it's exponential

[plucky flower]

Anyone else hates power poles. I cant stand them

Just outlets and towers for me please

[hard ivy]

mk1s have 4 connections, mk2 have 7? not to mention you usually need 2 for daisy chaining so the difference is 2 vs 5

[outer scarab]

no i love them so much I make them part of my roads

[plucky flower]

Daisy chaning? I have so much to learn

[cunning siren]

#satisfactory message <--- double Mk.1 wall outlets 8 connections

[outer scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1427947459954606141/image.png?ex=68f0b734&is=68ef65b4&hm=b626228a7f6fd4f517d371f54a42358575f43402a561d3cb8ef4e35781ddb36d&

i dont know how to link to screenshots

[hard ivy]

then double mk2 outlets should have 14

[plucky flower]

That looks nice

[outer scarab]

thanks its my base road design

[plucky flower]

14 is absurd and too much than needed

[cunning siren]

Yes, and I did not compare it to the Mk.2 wall outlet I compared it to the Mk.2 pole

[outer scarab]

#design-and-architecture message

my first building with art

[cunning siren]

Lookin fancy 👖

[outer scarab]

Yah i'm trying to go function over form this time. Last time I build a lot of buildings with nothing in them

[hushed canopy]

so i have a setup for 600 fuel production and 600 consumption in my power plant, but the flow rate seems to go down after each split, im scratching my head about how i can fix this

do i just need to fill up the pipe network again?

it is being split from a single mk2 pipeline to two sides of fuel gens

[worthy hatch]

600 production 590 intake

Could be because of server or game lag

I always like to do a mini fluid buffer tower before my inputs

[hushed canopy]

well after each split the flow is lower

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cunning siren]

Flow is not important

Only if the pipe is full

[worthy hatch]

Just starting lowering the clock on the machines till they find a happy place

[unkempt blade]

ooh looks nice, I like all the sign lights

[hushed canopy]

ill fill up the pipes again and see if it fixes it

[unkempt blade]

are the buildings consuming stuff from the pipe not getting enough of that material or are you more suspicious of the flow rate # you see when you interact with the pipe?

[hushed canopy]

the last ones were running on fumes when i came in to check on the power production

i filled the network again so lets see if they will manage to keep at around full now

[unkempt blade]

If you haven't looped the end of the pipe manifoldy-thing back to where it starts that can help. You also might try turning off some or all of the consumers until the pipe is "full" then turning them back on and see if it stays good

[hushed canopy]

im glad i made this pitstop before going to build my quartz production

[hushed canopy]

yeahp just did that, all seems fine now, havent looped the fuel, just a straight pipe that branches to fuel gens on both sides

[unkempt blade]

stuff at the end of pipe or conveyors manifolds kind of gets the leftovers just naturally from how it splits going down the manifold but with liquids the sloshing can make it a little weirder without the loop

[hushed canopy]

i suppose i could add a pipe on top of it that loops it

[cunning siren]

I put a blueprint in the designer and try to save it AND it says there is nothing in the designer? Wuuuuut?

[willow storm]

fun fact, in a manifold you can't have a belt with the average throughput being the maximum of the belt

because it will create a subtle but constant clog

[hushed canopy]

slapped a picture of the setup in screenshots if yall wanna take a look

[hard ivy]

You absolutely can input a full belt into a manifold. What are you even talking about?

[willow storm]

you can have it as an input but not as one of the middle belts

[hard ivy]

You won't have it as one of the middle belts because a part of the input belt has already been consumed?

Like that is not something that even can happen

The middle belts are necessarily less full than the input

[hushed canopy]

hmmm, it might be better if i do dual inputs into a looped system so each side of fuel gens has its own input pipe isntead of sharing the middle one between all of them

[willow storm]

not if you downgrade them along the course of the manifold

which i did, for some reason

[hard ivy]

Why?

But even then, as long as the consumption of the machines downstream of that belt is less than or equal to its speed, it'll work

[hushed canopy]

i want to create a system where i can constantly gas a large stinger locked in a box

[willow storm]

mostly because i like saving resources.
also, it needs to be strictly lower or it'll clog

[hard ivy]

I genuinely don't see why it'd need to be strictly lower in the middle but not at the start. What will clog? If the machines downstream of the belt consume 60 and you use a MK1 belt to supply them, they will get exactly 60. Not less. You don't need them to consume 59.999 for them to work

[plucky flower]

I feel like my miner is extracting more as 240 (mk2 miner on pure node)

Because I can use a manifold lane with two overclocked to 150% and still be bottlenecked

I mean the smelter for the manifold lane

I use 8 smelters and two(the first two ones) are overclocked

[dense violet]

sharing the middle is fine, under clock a few gens so as to flood the whole system. when every single machine and pipe is completely full, upclock them again and see how it goes

[willow storm]

okay so, basically if the machines before that mk1 belt all finish in sync (or close to), the belt will receive no supply for a short while. However, since its entire throughput is equal to the materials consumed, it won't be able to provide an excess to make up for that difference

[warped mulch]

Hi I'm looking for someone or 2 to play with, i can only play in about an hour.

[spiral summit]

oh my god why cant blueprints rotate below a certain decimal

theres absolutely no reason this bp cant snap to this rotated foundation

[limber plaza]

hey cobalt would u recommend nuclear power if so which type as in ficsonium, plutonium, uranium?

[spiral summit]

now i have to redo my railway track because it cant snap .03 degrees inline

[limber plaza]

ive only done uranium

[dense violet]

really depends what you're after.

just a solid power source? Uranium. Maybe convert the waste the plutonium rods and use them to power vehicles or sink for points

each generator outputs a ton of power compared to fuel. Instead of 1000 fuel stations, you can put down 100 nuclear

if you find complexity fun? some ficsonium could be interesting? very pricey in rods though

[limber plaza]

yeah just power source n ok so uranium and yeah i heard ficsonium isnt worth

would u recommend infused uranium cell alt recipe?

[dense violet]

again worth is very personal.

for power? probalby not. It's a lot of work for not much power. But maybe you find the systems fun

[dense violet]

depends what your end goal for power is.

with the most uranium efficient alts you can do 600gw just on Uranium rods

if you don't need that much? the simpler base recipes might be for you

[limber plaza]

i like complicated n figuring it out for sure

[dense violet]

then the alts might be for you. Even a bit of ficsonium 🙂

[limber plaza]

second save and first time passing phase 4 so yeah had fun building aluminum although its not complete i need to finish pressure conversion cubes there

[hard ivy]

Hmm, true, if that happened, it'd be an issue. However, can it? I think you can force it, but I don't think it can happen naturally.

But also, in that case, I don't think "strictly lower" is enough. It'd have to be lower by enough to make up the difference. 0.1 items/min won't be

But you can solve it by using smart splitters to prioritise filling last machines first, or by simply not using a lower tier belt.

And it's not an issue at the start of the manifold because machines have buffers that flatten out all spikes

[cosmic garden]

Anyone else having issues with signals (blocks) being dumb and not allowing you to swap sides?

[willow storm]

well, it has happened to me so it definitely can. strictly lower should work as long as all machines have a full buffer i think, which is something you don't normally do. and yes both your solutions definitely work

honestly, just another reason to use balancers instead

[solemn crystal]

guys if i have a 50m pipe going up, then back down, can it keep the velocity and go up 10m

[willow storm]

pipes are notoriously annoying, I'd put a pump on it just to be sure

[solemn crystal]

shucks

[limber plaza]

id put a pump on it and check the lift on the pump

[solemn crystal]

ok

wait why am i even thinking of this

[versed mesa]

Please look at my post #screenshots message

[solemn crystal]

i play shapez 2 not satisfact-

[versed mesa]

Let me know your thoughts

[solemn crystal]

looks amazing! if you have any pipes or belts PLEASE make them symmetrical

or else ill cry myself to sleep every night

[versed mesa]

What does symmetrical mean again ?

I can believe there only one oil deposit in the swamp lands and they are impure

[solemn crystal]

made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis; showing symmetry.

[versed mesa]

@solemn crystal am going todo what i can

[solemn crystal]

#off-topic-media message

examples of symmetry in shapes

[versed mesa]

This is my first buiod in swamp lands but I have some else where but they also are work in progress

[solemn crystal]

ze phuk is swamp lands ;-;

[versed mesa]

Yeah your taking the piss lmfao

[solemn crystal]

uh what

i no understand

[shy mulch]

That is what symmetry is. What else could it be?

[versed mesa]

Ok lol

[versed mesa]

Am an Alien 👽

[shy mulch]

I am an inkjet printer

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[limber plaza]

lots of oil in the north lol

looks nice thoe

why turbo fuel thoe?

[hard ivy]

well, no, if you lose half the supply for half the cycle and only regain supply in the second half, then the second half needs to refill the machines before the next cycle starts. which means 50% more supply needed for the second half
and no, this is not a reason to use balancers XD. just don't downgrade belts for no reason

[versed mesa]

North i think is the ocean area

[leaden turret]

cogito, ergo sum.

[versed mesa]

Well its ments to be better than normal fuel

[shy mulch]

Each fuel type is 'better' than the previous, with some edge case exceptions

[hard ivy]

it's really not. it's very much a sidegrade

[limber plaza]

gotcha ok

[versed mesa]

@limber plaza how else am I able to create energy i could build a huge energy factory only lol

[solemn crystal]

biomass burners duh

they have dynamic clock speed

imagine generating power at a set clock speed

😂

[shy mulch]

I'm currently producing 192/min packaged liquid biofuel that feeds 80 biomass burners

[limber plaza]

nah i thought u just wanted to do turbo lol just askin im building something similar but glass domes with 500 rocket fuel gens fully clocked

[willow storm]

you're right in that it wouldn't work. i think the only solution really is not downgrading

[versed mesa]

Or hell no i need alot of power if am working on fir nukeclear plants

[solemn crystal]

This is what we like to hear, an efficent user of biomass burners

[shy mulch]

Thank you. It's working well

[solemn crystal]

please fix your spelling with a biomass burner

they fix everything

but its fine, not like am a reddit mod

[versed mesa]

Dude biomass is early day for energy lo

[limber plaza]

lol

[solemn crystal]

nuh uh

biomass burners generate 30mw when not overclocked

and cheap as hell

[versed mesa]

But i does help to get something powered to make that power

[willow storm]

forests hate this man

[solemn crystal]

place down 10, you have 300mw already, and they're cheap to sustain

[reef basin]

you can't OC biomass afaik

[shy mulch]

Unless you're me

[solemn crystal]

you can

[versed mesa]

What about you ?

[shy mulch]

I use biomass all the way through, not just early game

[limber plaza]

you can use augmentors if u have enough sloops to get it running atleast and generate some fluids in

[versed mesa]

@solemn crystal yeah you stick to biomass all the time let me know him that goes for ya lmfao

[solemn crystal]

"Heal this, Nature!" revvs up chainsaw

[shy mulch]

Did you not see the project I'm working on?

[versed mesa]

Same to help get power where i dont have it and crash sites need power

[versed mesa]

I dont think so

[shy mulch]

I'm doing an entire playthrough using only biomass

[versed mesa]

Nice hiw many does 1 machine need ?

[willow storm]

finds crash site with a large hog
"oh neat, more biomass"

[shy mulch]

Exactly!

[limber plaza]

10 per bro

[solemn crystal]

EXACTLY!!!

[versed mesa]

Wtf i think you mention that so what you doing about all Biomass because you got to collect it all the time

[limber plaza]

each one produces 500mw each and itll give a lil boost to whatever power u already have

[versed mesa]

Rip how many loops are in game ?

[shy mulch]

I have all the constructors slooped, so it reduces the amount I need to collect

[solemn crystal]

108

[limber plaza]

106

[versed mesa]

Really

Omg

[solemn crystal]

i have 4 augmenters and its pretty good

[versed mesa]

You mean at the mam ?

[limber plaza]

the more power u make the more it makes a difference i noticed

[solemn crystal]

if you dont wanna collect them theres always SCIM :)

[solemn crystal]

no thats the mercer sphere thing

[shy mulch]

What? I mean the constructors

[versed mesa]

I never said I did nit want to collect them I am just trying to find out the total lol

[willow storm]

it's percentage based iirc

[solemn crystal]

"slooping" a machine is to use somersloops to multiply a machine's output

[limber plaza]

ik it is 10% non fed

per augmentor

[shy mulch]

Each APA gives 500MW plus it boosts all your other power 10%
If you feed it a supply of alien matrices then the boost increases to 30%

[versed mesa]

Ah so maybe you have storage unit hooked upto it and you drop in your leaves and wood ?

[limber plaza]

yup

[shy mulch]

I think we're talking different languages here. Have you ever made liquid or solid biofuel and have you ever slooped a machine?

[versed mesa]

Yes I sloop

[shy mulch]

So what's the question lol

[solemn crystal]

alien mattresses? damm those aliens also need sleep

[versed mesa]

No question

[shy mulch]

Mattresses 😂 not quite. Matrices

[solemn crystal]

ahhhh

you meant matrixes, they have their own spinoff show of The Matrix, makes sense...

[willow storm]

even the aliens can't escape the maths

[shy mulch]

I had to scroll up and check if my autocorrect had screwed me or something

[shy mulch]

No, I meant matrices. The plural of matrix

[bold heron]

Anyone plays satisfactory whit controler ?
Do the handling gets better once u get used to controles ?
I jist tryed and all feels so slow compared to mouse/keyboard.

[solemn crystal]

i tried, mostly when i use steam link on my iPad, its not that hard, but rotating across the screen feels like ages

[shell dove]

How tall is 10m in-game?

[reef basin]

10 meters

[shell dove]

Is there something I can use as reference

[reef basin]

anything that you know height of?

[shy mulch]

Foundations are a good start

[reef basin]

walls, buildables, whatever

[willow storm]

foundations come in 1m, 2m and 4m heights

if you want to measure 10m you can stack them

[shell dove]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[solemn crystal]

10 meters 😮

[shell dove]

thanks

[unkempt blade]

just in case you're not a metric nerd it's also 32.8ft in game

[leaden turret]

wall segment is 4m tall

[solemn crystal]

guys whas the Satisfactory Dedicated Server install thing on steam? is it often used? or is it just there

[leaden turret]

it's the dedicated server.

[dusk light]

Just an idea for the game here why not have the machines all daisy chainable?

[solemn crystal]

but like is it often used? is there external software better than it? or is this basically the only way for dedicated severs

[leaden turret]

as far as I know there's no open source / cloned dedicated server for satisfactory

[solemn crystal]

so it is the only way for now

gotcha

[cunning siren]

It seems like auto connect works on belts and pipes to other belts and pipes but not to splitters and mergers 🤔

[limber plaza]

it does but in blueprint u have to add a lil belt on the mergers or splitters

slap down a floor or cieling mount and add a lil belt and tada u have auto connect mergers and splitters

same as pipes

[cunning siren]

On one end or both ends?

[limber plaza]

i always do both and make a blueprint for left and right side depending which direction im building in

[limber plaza]

i can send u two so u know what i mean

[willow storm]

wait blueprints connect now??

[cunning siren]

They can, it's kind of tricky

[limber plaza]

simple tbh

just sucks when ur building something big itll sometimes connect to something else lol

[zenith pecan]

I don't use the blueprint autoconnect due to the fun & games that sometimes occur.

[cunning siren]

Yea, I'm not sure if it's helpful to me yet 🤔 🤷

The auto connect animation happens AND when i test it, it's not connected 😆 Games like... "Got EM!"

It won't do the space between a smelter manifold 😆

It works if I nudge it by one

[zenith pecan]

I have had rare instance of pipes and belts snapping but but actually connecting when laid down normally as well.

[cunning siren]

Maybe my stub has to be bigger

[violet brook]

How am I supposed to handle coal power while I have to manually insert coal into a plant that is like 400 M away from the vein?

Do I use the tractor to move like two inventories of coal at a time?

[zenith pecan]

Why manually insert, just belt the coal in.

[cunning siren]

Lifts don't auto connect do they?

[violet brook]

From 400 meters away?

[hard ivy]

Yes?

[zenith pecan]

I've belted from multiple kilometres, so why not?

[hard ivy]

It'll work just as well from 40, 400 and 4000 meters away

[violet brook]

You’re probably correct, but it just sounds dumb

[limber plaza]

i just use small pillars at a decent height to move ore or whatever with belts looks clean

[hard ivy]

Well, the dumb part is putting your coal plant 400m away from coal

[cunning siren]

I do skybelts under glass foundations with ceiling mounts sometimes

[violet brook]

I put it closer to the water.

[zenith pecan]

I have crazy long belts running through my tunnel network feeding plants from across the map.

[violet brook]

That coal vein didn’t have any water close to it.

[dawn sun]

Which is honestly the smarter move because pipes are more pain than belts

[hard ivy]

That is better than putting it close to coal but far from water, but there's plenty of places where both are nearby

[violet brook]

So just put it in between.

[hard ivy]

I'd find different coal and different water that are near each other and put it there

[dawn sun]

Crater lakes, that crater a little northeast in the plains, in the rocky desert across from the northern forests, a few spots in the dune desert I believe... there's enough spots with coal and water in close proximity to each other

[hard ivy]

But if you already built it, you might as well build a 400m conveyor for coal. It'll probably be faster atp

[violet brook]

Okay, thanks!

I also found it hilarious when ADA talked about water as if the player doesn’t know what water is.

[shy mulch]

400m really isn't that far for a belt

[cunning siren]

Hummm, leave an extra space between smelters so auto-connect will work take 5 seconds to click in two belts? 🤔 😆

[rustic pier]

What i end up doing even though i have them blueprinted is if i have change the direction I’ll just set up a single belt and add my splitters

[violet brook]

Sorry, I’m not asmongold.

[cunning siren]

The belts in my last play through: #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

In my 1.1 playthrough I'm not even done with phase 4 yet and already at 88 km

[cunning siren]

I try to avoid infrastructure of any kind

Whelp, it looks like I'm boned on smelter auto connect but the other machines should work fine

[hard ivy]

Doesn't AC work belt -> splitter if the belt is on the ghost side? Then you'd only need 1 1m segment, not 2

Haven't tested it tho

[cunning siren]

I tested all situations I could think of and it seems like auto connect hates 1m situations 2m+ works great

0m works too

[hard ivy]

It'd be 0m here too

Smelters are 5m wide, splitter is 4. 1m of space

But you need at least 1m of belt sticking out of the ghost

That fills the gap.

0m of belt added by AC

[violet brook]

Don’t you get trains?

[cunning siren]

I have two very short ones that do not share a track and are double headed, no loops no signals ez mode

They don't show in the map screenshot cuz I disabled everything but belts

[plucky flower]

TRIPLE POWER LETS GOO BABY

600MW? Nuh uh, 1.8GW YUH UHH

[fluid sapphire]

i had a similar problem with my smelter blueprint. but its doable: lock a support hologram as close to the splitter as possible, do a half meter nudge, connect a belt to it, then delete the support, do this only on the side where the new blueprint connects to the old (so if you are building towards north, it should be on the south end of the new blueprint that connects to the old one)

[unkempt blade]

All trains are beautiful in the eyes of our lord and savior the robot lady who speaks directly inside of my brain

[dawn sun]

"Choo choo motherf***er" -the robot lady, allegedly

[limber plaza]

should i use 600 alu ingot to make nothing but screws lol

[dawn sun]

dew it (jk pls don't alu has better uses than screws)

[unkempt blade]

ahh yes, from the book of Locomotables 3:08

[limber plaza]

lol i have 12000 ingot only using 2400 as of rn needa use some to make beams for screws for reinforced plated towards pressure conversion cubes

[cunning siren]

Ok, so this is almost like a 1/2 or 3/4 m stub 🤔

[fluid sapphire]

it should be as short as is possible to make

i think its still 1m, the belt starts from inside the splitter

or maybe even 2m, whatever the shortest possible belt length is, this should be it

it just looks short because very little is sticking out, but if you aim at it with your dismantle gun you see its longer

[cunning siren]

Heyyyyy, it works!

[prime rampart]

BRO I JUST SEE THAT I HAVE ALTERNATE COMPUTER UNLOCKED

AND ALL THAT TIME I WQS WORRYING ABT PLASTIC TRANSPORT

😭

[plucky flower]

Business is booming, cable and wire factory in too

Phase 3 is coming

[languid anvil]

what happens when i have more than one type of item going into the dimensional depot?

[dawn sun]

Eventually one type will have a full stack in the depot and clog the belt, depriving you of the other type

[languid anvil]

damn so i really do need a depot for every type of item i want to have access to

[hard ivy]

More than one, even, for some

[dawn sun]

That or handfeeding

[dawn sun]

That too. For concrete you probably want more than because you can use a lot more concrete in building foundations than you can reupload, even with max upload speed upgrades

[languid anvil]

mercer spheres please find your way into my hands 🙏

[dawn sun]

(object scanner my GOAT)

[languid anvil]

do i need smart plating for anything in the end game?

just wanna see if i should design my new factory with it in mind or not

[dawn sun]

Smart plating is used in phase 1 and 2, is a component in a project part in 3 I believe, and might be useful beyond then too, I'm not 100% sure

[languid anvil]

okay im lucky that i have a full storage unit

so i have enough to create the 500 ME for phase 3

[dawn sun]

Yeah it's used for Modular Engines in phase 3, which are a component for another late game project part

[limber plaza]

phase 4 for rocket as well for space elevator

well for engines into rockets

[dawn sun]

tbf it's also hella worth just sinking them. 520 sink points per smart plating gets you a lot of architecture really fast

[glad drum]

Hey now, he knows what water is - he drank it once and nearly vomitted.

[languid anvil]

currently in the process of tearing down my mega factory that was producing almost everything

[languid anvil]

yeah ive unlocked almost everything in the awesome shop except the trophies

[versed mesa]

Hi all

[dawn sun]

whaddup

[versed mesa]

Am off the game about to nap

How do people make mushroom shape factories

Like when you make circle you almost make wall but you bring it out and make it curve so at top you got a curve or so I want todo this with my build am working on it want to build floors within and in middle there will be elevators to go to the floors

This is what I need to figure out and learn todo

[rustic pier]

Would be cool if we could get some deco items .. like so we can make a lobby lol

[signal shale]

god I loathe this one area of the red plateau, because there's this incessant skittering likee a stinger is around, but I can't ever find him to shoot him, I think he's stuck under the geometry but close eenough to aggro and make skittering noises trying to get at me.

[pale dew]

my first time reaching world height

i forgot what the change course button was on hypertubes

and ive accelerated a bit too much

[cunning siren]

OK, auto-connect requires a bit of voodoo magic to get going 😆

[pale dew]

https://imgur.com/a/U6px8pK

...

[spiral summit]

blueprint directories are quite broken, are they planning on fixing it?

[pale dew]

should i add jumpscare warning

[spiral summit]

||content not available|| absolutely mortified me how could you

[pale dew]

idk man seems like a skill issue

oppens for me normally

[spiral summit]

imgur sucks anyway it doesnt show even with a vpn

[unkempt blade]

You'd be better off taking complaints like this to https://questions.satisfactorygame.com. Make sure you actually explain what's wrong with them though

[languid anvil]

we need decorations to make something look like an office

[cosmic adder]

uh oh, what do i do? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1428046497093652532

[hard ivy]

Learn to use the world grid? Idk

[cosmic adder]

world has grid

Oh heck nah, just found out i had to hold ctrl..my whole factory is not well build, and other is..

[hard ivy]

Yeah, when you hold ctrl when placing a foundation on the ground, it'll align it NSWE, and snap it to an 8x8x1 meter grid

[cosmic adder]

welp..idk what to do..i aint rebuilding whole 5 floor factory

[hard ivy]

Horizontally, the snap points are every 8m, so one whole foundation, but vertically they're every 1m vertically so if you're using 2 or 4m foundations, they could be 1/2 or 1/4 foundation apart even after snapping

[deft wagon]

me when i cant see

[pale dew]

does it really not work?

[deft wagon]

not in my country no

[spiral summit]

jesus blueprint categories never work

[pale dew]

get a better one ig #screenshots message

[deft wagon]

[spiral summit]

so i cant choose the category after ive created it, then upon deleting it and setting the category it still goes to undefined 💔

[barren current]

you know the update 5 video where Snutt and Jace introduced the customiser in a cheesey enthusiastic informercial style?
It randomly occured to me today (you know, 3 years later) that "Snutty Mayes" is a reference to David Mayes; a prolific 90's/2000's infomercial personality.

I'm guessing that "Juice Velvet" is just a corruption of "Jace Varlet" and there isn't another reference in there?

[hard ivy]

Deal with it. SCIM has the option to align to world grid but last I checked it didn't really work.

[cosmic adder]

Deal w it..damn cold man

[plucky flower]

Just the smart plating left for phase 2 completion, almost there

[fallow needle]

will satisfactory be on sale when it releases?

[cosmic adder]

ig this will work #screenshots

[cosmic adder]

its 1.1

its full version now

[plucky flower]

DeadGamer it looks really silly

To be truly honest

[cosmic adder]

well, im not rebuilding my whole factory. Its my first play through so its fine

[fallow needle]

on consoe

[cosmic adder]

well, does it look like its Q&A chat? All we know is what we see on YT

[fallow needle]

lol I was just asking. Jeez. Thanks anyways

[shrewd palm]

i doubt it but you never know

ive only seen it be on sale on steam a couple times

[shy mulch]

I can't imagine why they would discount it at the point of console release. Seems like scamming themselves out of revenue, kinda counterproductive

[shrewd palm]

^^

[fallow needle]

alot of gaming companies discount on release. voidtrain is doing it. I was just curious; thanks guys!

[cunning siren]

O K... auto-connect is worth it for blenders BIG TIME 😆

[mossy moon]

worth it for giant belt and pipe stacks too

[scarlet lake]

I don’t know where I’d be without auto connect on these

The learning curve is a bit weird but so worth

[mossy moon]

where youd be is 0.1% done with your belt stack going acorss the map

[scarlet lake]

If other build modes for auto connect were a thing I’d probably actually finish my mega factory

[cosmic adder]

uhh, my train of track, how do i get him back on

nvm

[mossy moon]

its not that bad to learn, but maybe bcs i play sf a lot

[mossy moon]

click on train

[cosmic adder]

thanks

[scarlet lake]

I played with it in weird tolerances

[cosmic adder]

to turn around train do i need to make another road or add another on back?

[mossy moon]

you can add another locomotive facing the other direction

or make the track a loop, and have it either 1 lane or 2 lanes

[fallen ravine]

Hmm, I think there is an error with steam, I got the game like 5 days ago and it says I have 42 hours already 🤔

[cosmic adder]

i see, thanks

[mossy moon]

maybe the game is that addictive and you dont even know how muhc you play

[fallen ravine]

I think I've never played a game for so long in such a short period of time, Gotta automate em' all!

[cosmic adder]

i built rails for train, but it cannot find?

it says target unreachable

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that automated trains will only ever go forward (if you slap an engine on both ends facing "outwards" then it can go in either direction, though, since each direction is "forward.") Also keep in mind that the train station "head" has a direction. You want the curve of the "D" to point outwards

[signal shale]

you may have placed the station backwards

[cunning siren]

I made the mistake of raising a few blueprints about 5 m higher AND found out there is no way to undo that 😆 this game sometimes

[white dawn]

So if D is the station and = are the cargo platforms, you want it to be ==D

(I swear I'm not trying to make anything look lewd)

[cosmic adder]

ohh

[cosmic adder]

to late to tell it

okay, i made sure it looks at right direction, but it still doesnt work

[white dawn]

Best would be to open a #1038092680493801533 thread with screenshots, probably

[crisp jetty]

Bro why the fuck did my friend hook up all our concrete, cable, copper wire, and copper sheets to the awesome sink 😑🤦

[white dawn]

Should have a nice backlog of coupons, at least!

[feral geyser]

Get some points early game, but they should've hooked up overflow splitters only

[white dawn]

Yeah, was about to say that the usual recommendation is to have a Smart Splitter in front of anything going to storage, and send the overflow to the sink

That way once your personal storage fills up, you get the full might of your factories generating coupons for you

[crisp jetty]

I’ll make him do that, cuz bro we’re running out of resources!!

[idle minnow]

Are the stop conditions for trains bugged?

If I set to wait for fully loaded / unloaded AND wait for 0 seconds, it will wait indefinitely at the station ... ?

[lethal scroll]

yo, just realized I can use a constructor with a somersloop to craft power shards from slugs rather than handcrafting them, and I get DOUBLE THE POWER SHARDS??? why did I only realize this now

[fallen ravine]

If a Bean gets stuck in my factory, does it just stay there forever now? Or will the game eventually move it?

[mossy moon]

dna coupons too

[lethal scroll]

oh truuuuu

didnt think of that

smart

[mossy moon]

i usually "make" it leave

i think everyone does

[fallen ravine]

I tried but it's stuck on a rock, it tries to run but doesn't move.

[white dawn]

They have a lot of HP but they can be killed with sufficient bashing

Don't feel bad; they'll respawn to inspect your factories yet again. :)

[mossy moon]

keep trying. it will eventually enter the 4th dimention and magically move somewhere

(keep trying means keep shooting it or scaring it)

[fallen ravine]

It died and the FICSIT lady doesnt like me now v-v

[mossy moon]

it only cares about you saving the kittens and puppies

and ig humanity

[cosmic adder]

i tried fixing myself, nothing, so i did. Thanks! (https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1428061266408374283/1428061266408374283)

[candid torrent]

the purple train is alive and well

it shall bring me beautiful quartz and sam

[lethal scroll]

bruh. I just converted all the power slugs I'd been storing in my depot... I got 386 power shards. JFC

[idle minnow]

So trains that are shorter than the station cannot be set to wait for load / unload???

[vestal hill]

Block signals no?

[hard ivy]

You used sloops, I hope?

[lethal scroll]

yeah, that's what I said I just discovered

so many shards

I can't even fit them all in my depot lol

[candid torrent]

suffering from success

[lethal scroll]

wouldn't exactly call it suffering lol

[candid torrent]

successing

[lethal scroll]

successing from suffering

[shy mulch]

You'll love tier 9

[lethal scroll]

oh no

I've never even completed tier 7 and 8 before lol

maybe 7?

[shy mulch]

Mary exciting things lay ahead of you

Many*

[lethal scroll]

im scared now

[shy mulch]

Why. Be excited

[candid torrent]

i just got to tier 9

its great i swear

just ummm upgrade ur power grid

[coral bough]

Building a factory in this game is complicated

[lethal scroll]

don't worry, I'm planning on making a power plant that will satisfy my power needs for generations to come

[candid torrent]

quantum machine power costs hurt me physically

[lethal scroll]

fuel plant, but im not planning on just making a fuel plant to satisfy my need. I'm gonna make a fuel plant that will use up every single available drop from this source

however much that will be

[candid torrent]

are u gonna use rocket fuel

also 10000 iron plates for a milestone is CRAZY

[lethal scroll]

idk, i'm not nearly there yet. never used rocket fuel before. I might? if it's the most efficient?

[candid torrent]

its not much harder to make than turbofuel but is insanely insanely efficient yea

[lethal scroll]

the only oil I have set up rn is one extractor into two refineries to feed my depots with rubber and plastic for immediate use

I'm rebuilding my entire iron plant at my OG hub now

[candid torrent]

yeah uhhh im gonna be doing that shortly

[lethal scroll]

so far I've got 2 pure iron veins absolutely maxxed

[candid torrent]

i do not have 10k plates stored up

[hard ivy]

You can easily deliver them in batches

[lethal scroll]

480 iron ore into 480 iron ingots (x2), one feeding a plant of 8 constructors (320 iron plates) and the other feeding a plant of 16 constructors (480 iron rods)

there's 6 pure iron veins here though

so I've only set up 2/6 so far

[coral bough]

What...

[hard ivy]

Just tier 9 stuff, don't worry about it

[coral bough]

😐

[candid torrent]

its fine its chill n cool

[coral bough]

My brain cant handle the early game

[candid torrent]

surely i will need as many of these ficsite trigons as i can fit on a mk5 belt

aand also to fix my coal plant

[coral bough]

😐

[unkempt fern]

is there any way to make server allow different versions of clients to connect my friend is on same version as me but game says they arnt

[amber heath]

finally found some SAM ore

[candid torrent]

yippee purple

[white grotto]

just automate everything u need

[coral bough]

Thats what I do

But still its a pain

[white grotto]

ik 😔

[coral bough]

Especially having the required power

[white grotto]

annoying getting leaves and wood

for solid biomass

chainsaw helps tho

[coral bough]

Eh I rush coal

[vestal hill]

#screenshots message @livid creek I love aumnunuc casing

[white grotto]

how

what tier is it

[coral bough]

Tier 3 or 4

I forgot but its easy to do

[vestal hill]

Early tier 3 iirc lemme double check

[white grotto]

wont be for me i have like 13 biomass gens setup

gonna have to replace all that

[coral bough]

I have 6 at most to make smart plating

I also got 4 coal nodes to use so

[white grotto]

first playthru so i dont know what im doing lol

[vestal hill]

150 reinforced iron plates, 50 rotors & 500 cables for coal power

[coral bough]

Can't you run 8 generators off 1 pure node of coal

[white grotto]

i have all that automated except rotors

[vestal hill]

That’s to unlock the milestone

[coral bough]

Ohhh

[vestal hill]

Just hand craft honestly

[white grotto]

too slow

[coral bough]

Just press the space bar and go eat or something

[white grotto]

i like connecting machine ngl but getting the stuff for it is annoying

[vestal hill]

Second playthrough here, I knew I wanted to speed run coal as fast as I could, biomass is too painful

[white grotto]

😔

i hope theres some coal nodes near me

[coral bough]

Im not even gonna try and use solid bio fuel

[vestal hill]

What biome are you in?

[white grotto]

no idea but its flat and greeeny

[vestal hill]

What did you click for starting location

Oh grass fields then?

[white grotto]

no idea

[coral bough]

Theres a pure one on an island on the edge of the map

[white grotto]

probably

[white grotto]

the edge of the map is like 800m from me

[vestal hill]

You’re in grass fields, did you set up near the middle? Like that big flat grassy area connected to the void

[vestal hill]

Oh there okay

[coral bough]

So very close

[white grotto]

i have a caterium farm there

[white grotto]

lemme check

[coral bough]

Only problem for coal power is water in the grassy fields

[rustic pier]

Yes. Would be cool to have a lobby with your elevator and then office at the top floor with a nice view

[vestal hill]

Not if you go to the 4 coal nodes by the massive lake

[coral bough]

in the forest?

[vestal hill]

Yep

[coral bough]

Isn't there 3 and then 1 with rocks on it that you need to blow up

[vestal hill]

Yep

[coral bough]

Ahhhh

[peak wasp]

is there any way to turn of fog?

[coral bough]

Im in the rocky desert by the cave with sam and quartz

[white grotto]

theres a semi big pond near my base

[vestal hill]

Ohh neat

[white grotto]

cant send pics sad

[vestal hill]

#screenshots

[coral bough]

If you can put or 3 water pumps on that you can get 8 coal generators with the one pure node

[vestal hill]

On this current playthrough I’m currently middle of eocky desert, but I have quite w few factories on that raised bit above your cave and my steel production is just outside it

[white grotto]

alr ngl idm if the node is far away i can have conveyors run 1k+ meters

[coral bough]

I build on that one rock formation with the 6 normal iron nodes but started a new game bc I built everything wrong and didn't wanna spend 3 hours taking it down

[vestal hill]

There’s a massive lake about 1km away, it’s got like 4 coal nodes on it so if you can set up your power there and then run a pole back thats probably better

[peak wasp]

guys is there anyway that you can turn of fog?

[coral bough]

No build the coal plants next to the node

Just take water to them and use power lines to take the power to your stuff

[vestal hill]

Yeah that’s where my modular frames/rotor/stator/reinforced plates factories are

[white grotto]

alright is there better electricity poles or is it just the 1

[vestal hill]

Iron wire is a great thing

[coral bough]

So many things needed

😭

[vestal hill]

Tier 4 (you’ll need a bit more advanced stuff) you get advanced power infrastructure which unlocks those huge power towers we see in cities

[coral bough]

There are but idk if you need to research them or unlock them

[vestal hill]

Lemme find exact cost

[coral bough]

Those are useful to me till I start using trains

[white grotto]

ooof yeah ima stick with current they suffice ngl

[vestal hill]

100 steel beams, 50 encased industrial beams, 200 modular frames, 2000 wire for Extenses power infrastructure (you can theoretically unlock this at the same time as coal if you have the resources, which is actually possible

[vestal hill]

I can’t wait to get trains set up, just need to set up plastic and rubber and I’m good to go

[white grotto]

only thing i have in this is wires 👍

[vestal hill]

LOL

do you know about crash sites?

[white grotto]

nope

[coral bough]

I hate the oil stuff, bc I wanna use that type of power but I dont know a good way to build the generators

[vestal hill]

Right. Let me educate you, these things are so good

[white grotto]

all ive seen story wise is a cave im too scared to go into

[white grotto]

yes pls

[coral bough]

The best

[coral bough]

Its worth it to use power poles mk1 till you get them, definitely switch to coal ASAP

[vestal hill]

Pretty much scattered around the world are these crash sites. They’re probably guarded by creatures but each one will have a box in the middle (about the size of a storage container) containing a “hard drive”. Sometimes you need to give these boxes stuff (like reinforced iron plates for example), sometimes you need to give it power (maybe 100 mw) and sometimes they just open.

Hard drives can be researched in the MAM to unlock alternate recipes, which are exactly what they sound like. Have too much iron and not enough copper? Wish for the “iron wire” alternate

Around these sites, is loot, depending on the crash site. For example, in the maybe 15 sites I’ve looted I’ve found many tier 7+ parts, as well as things I haven’t unlocked yet, like computers, allowing me to unlock mam trees and other stuff

There you go!

[vestal hill]

^^^

[coral bough]

Tier 7?

[candid torrent]

theres a lot of random t8 stuff around crashes ye

[vestal hill]

I’ve found electromagnetic fuel rods, cooling systems, heating systems

Dunno exactly what tier they are cuz I haven’t gotten there myself

[candid torrent]

turbo motors, fused modular frames radio control units

[white grotto]

damn but how many creatures are around it is it alot or no?

[coral bough]

Ohhh yeah ive gotten some of those in my 100+ hour world

[vestal hill]

Depends on the crash, they’re always worth it though

[coral bough]

Depends

[white grotto]

alright il look for them rn ty

[vestal hill]

I had more turbo motors than regular motors at one point

[coral bough]

Theres one on that island with the pure coal node at the edge of the map

[vestal hill]

No worries, imma go to bed now, DM me if you need any help or have questions

[coral bough]

Can I friend you lol

[white grotto]

they arent random?

[vestal hill]

I would suggest dedicating a few hours to just looking for Mercer spheres, sloops and crash sites

[white grotto]

couldnt i just look up a yt vids for all their locations

[coral bough]

Nope they're not

[candid torrent]

diamonds diamonds diamonds!!!

[vestal hill]

Yes but that’s boring

[white grotto]

alr gn

[coral bough]

But what's boring

[vestal hill]

LOL

[white grotto]

lol

[vestal hill]

Gn

[candid torrent]

yea u can do that

theres a really good online map with everything

if ur into that of course

[coral bough]

You got a map and a resource scanner in game use that

[prisma veldt]

hello guys i search someone who wants to start with me a fresh start

[candid torrent]

destroy your coal power plant

[coral bough]

Who😭

[candid torrent]

anyone who cares to

[white dawn]

#1201555265942724758 btw

[coral bough]

I don't even have coal yet

[candid torrent]

thats unfortunate

[coral bough]

Eh im like 2 hours into the save

[candid torrent]

thats understandable

[coral bough]

Im just tryna get coal ASAP so I dont gotta pickup sticks😭

[candid torrent]

my coal plant is about to meet the byebye man

i need that coal for diamonds

[white dawn]

In general I advise new players to avoid discord/youtube/streamers for advice, in favor of just enjoying the game at your own pace and making your own mistakes, but: one thing that'll help is making sure you're converting all your biomass into "Solid Biofuel" (unlocked along with the chainsaw). Makes your biomass stage a lot nicer, especially with belt-fed burners. (ie: slap leaves/wood/remains into some bins, and then an automated production line just spits out solid biofuel to the burners in the end)

And while I personally can never bring myself to use alien remains for anything but DNA, you get a lot of biomass from remains. Some small hunting expeditions can last you a lot longer than a similar amount of time spent foraging

[candid torrent]

i did use alien remains for biomass early on and it was really helpful

especially if u rush for somerslooping early

[willow storm]

animals respawn anyway

I'm like 85% sure

[white dawn]

Yeah, so long as you're not building stuff near their spawnpoints, I think it's every 3 in-game days

(enough buildings, especially powered buildings, will disable nearby enemy spawnpoints. Though if you later remove/dismantle all that, the spawn will reactivate)

[fluid glen]

From my personal experience, might I recommend stun rebar and a rebar gun for maximum comedic effect?

[regal geode]

Can you tame the dogs?

[willow storm]

yeah with the raspberry thingy

[languid anvil]

are there any light sources that arent as big as the "ceiling lights"

[willow storm]

i don't remember how you do it exactly though

[regal geode]

I tried with every fruit that i seen

[fluid glen]

You drop a paleberry from your inventory when a lizard doggo is nearby, then back away while it eats the berry. Then walk up and pet it once it eats it.

[regal geode]

Okay

I try someday

[languid anvil]

i want something like a single lightbulb for a small factory

[fluid glen]

Honestly, something that fits within a single tile would be SO nice

[regal geode]

Absolutely agreed

[fluid glen]

The ceiling lights overhang slightly and it just… it’s always been one reason I just kinda disregard lighting until the factory gets too dark inside

[languid anvil]

the big ceiling light is just too big sometimes, is there nothing else?

[fluid glen]

I don’t think so. You could try the wall mounted floodlights or the street lamps, but

I tend to gravitate towards the wall mounted floodlights

[languid anvil]

yeah im not sure floodlights are small enough for what i wanna do LOL

i guess this factory is just gonna be dark as hell

[fluid glen]

I mean, you could always just glass roof the place

[languid anvil]

yeah i have that, i was thinking more of a nighttime thing

[fluid glen]

That’s fair.

[languid anvil]

thanks for the suggestion anyway, always a good reminder that sun roofs are the easiest way to light your factory lol

[fluid glen]

Remember: exploit EVERYTHING including the sun

[candid torrent]

i’m going to exploit the local iron ore population

i need “steel” pipes and wire i am NOT bringing copper into this operation

[fluid glen]

Im going to be exploiting the local limestone population very soon.

I have a MASSIVE idea that demands ALL the concrete.

[leaden turret]

safest way.

easiest way to light factory is to set it alight 🥁

[languid anvil]

just spend like 3 hours making a small concrete factory

setting all the machines up took 1 min

making it look nice and using all the things i unlocked from the AWESOME shop, 2h59m

[fluid glen]

Safety? In my factory???!?

What are you, a health inspector?

[languid anvil]

and im still not done

[candid torrent]

i love some good conk

i might be a lazy rascal for my nuclear plant and use leached recipes to deal with byproducts

[leaden turret]

FICSIT does not waste waste

[fluid glen]

That reminds me of that one time I nuked the swamp… and the cluster nobelisk fireworks show I put on that one time

Because, if the swamp is where stingers come from, they don’t anymore in my save.

[languid anvil]

does anyone know how to fix textures glitching because of overlapping structures?

[coral bough]

No body was talking to you

[languid anvil]

i have a diagonal small concrete pillar going through another one, and it's like theyre fighting to see who can be the dominate texture that shows lol

[candid torrent]

every contribution to the golden nut fund is not an item wasted

ada would want this

[fluid glen]

Ah, yeah, I know what you mean. Those are always so triggering. 🫠

[languid anvil]

Do you know a way to fix it?

[fluid glen]

Other than changing the design entirely to avoid any clipping, no.

[languid anvil]

damn that sucks, whats the point of using diagonal beams then

[fluid glen]

Maybe use the beam joint piece?

I forgot what it’s called exactly, but it’s the black square and/or rectangle piece that comes with beams

[abstract heron]

Safest way is to being angry then being worried

[coral bough]

Esthetics

[shadow crown]

is there any way to change the elevator speed?

[prisma veldt]

nobody there who wants to jouin a fresh start

[lethal scroll]

you know what would be a cool addition to the game? and I know like 90% of satisfactory players won't even touch this because they won't care, but still:
Flora rejuvination tech. Sometimes, I wanna just mow down an entire area to build foundations. But sometimes, I wanna have some greenery in my builds. Sadly, once you pick up leaves from the ground, or cut down a tree, that's it. It's gone forever. It'd be cool if, at some point, we were able to unlock a technology that would respawn all leaves and trees in a small area. Could be part of mycology research or something, idk.
What do you think?

[leaden turret]

scim has a thing for restoring stuff

[lethal scroll]

scim? I assume that's a mod?

[leaden turret]

save editor linked in #welcome

[lethal scroll]

oooh, thanks :D

wait, I just see that it's the same one I've been using since forever lol

I mostly use it for the map though

[candid torrent]

i need to pop my save in there

i’m getting desperate for more sloops

and also i just want that cool view of all my factory slop

[white dawn]

Apologies for volunteering some advice which is often helpful for first-time players, I guess. Not everyone realizes that Solid Biofuel is as useful as it is

[leaden turret]

• Be kind and respectful to others.
#rules

[coral bough]

Im not a new player, I said I have a game with 100+ hours

[lethal scroll]

I feel like solid biofuel, or just, biofuel generators, got buffed MASSIVELY in the span of time since I last played before this (around update 5-6?)
Back then when I was doing phase 1 and two I had to refuel my biomass generators CONSTANTLY even when barely anything was plugged into the grid

my grid was dying every 5-10 minutes back then 😭

and, even worse, there was no way to feed belts into them yet

so you had to manually refuel each and every one of them

saying it was a PITA... would be an understatement

[white dawn]

I mean, immediately before that you said you're 2 hours into the save, so, y'know. Anyway, I feel like you're just determined to be grumpy, so I'll drop it. :)

The advice was well-intentioned; if you found it unwelcome, c'est la vie

[lethal scroll]

question for the more experienced among you: during the recipes of tier 6-8, will I be needing copper sheets for the more advanced recipes? asking since, I have iron wire, and 4 pure untapped iron veins here, but only one copper vein, so if I need copper sheets, I'll put the copper ingots towards that instead of wire, and get wire from iron instead

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think it's mostly the belt-feed thing, though maybe they also buffed it? Honestly don't remember the exact 1.0 changes except for belt-feeding

Belt-feeding is really a gamechanger for the early game; I found it much nicer to stay on top of on my 1.0 playthrough

Can just keep an eye on various belt segments; once the Soild Biofuel constructor(s) don't have any backup on their inputs, it's time to do a bit more collecting

[lethal scroll]

I have a habit during the early game to stuff my pockets with anything that isn't nailed down anyways, so it usually isn't an issue, especially since the buffs

[languid anvil]

what category are walls when it comes to swatches?

[lethal scroll]

I always use a "spam interact" macro when playing satisfactory... specifically to vaccuum the floor

[lethal scroll]

walls? depends on which ones. I believe basic walls are under standard, while concrete walls fall under concrete walls. I don't think steel walls can be painted.

[white dawn]

I think it's "Standard FICSIT" except if it's concrete walls, which use the Concrete one instead

(bah, ninja'd!)

[languid anvil]

thank you both, ill also check a wiki to see what counts as standard

[lethal scroll]

would you know an answer to my question, by any chance? @white dawn

[white dawn]

Heh, my usual response is to just Not Plan For The Future™. :) Just make exactly what you need right now, and know that you'll then make more later

(I also tend to advise making a lot of smaller factories spread out all over the map, using convenient node placements, rather than trying to maximize nodes in one area)

So my own predelictions kind of sidestep your quesiton as-written. :)

Like if I find a Tier 8 part which needs Copper Sheets as part of its construction, I'll just find a spot for that factory which includes copper, and make the sheets right inside that new factory

[languid anvil]

okay the wiki doesnt have a list, does someone have one instead?

[leaden turret]

are you looking at the wiki or the abandoned ad-laden trashfire?

[languid anvil]

wiki, the gg one not the fandom

[lethal scroll]

well... I'd like to plan for the future, anyways. I'm currently putting down basic factories that I do not intend to scrap in the lategame. That's why I'm draining each vein to maximum capacity. Right now, I've got two pure iron veins fully exploited, with smelteries on both turning 480 ore into 480 ingots, each of which supplies a constructor block with 8 and 16 constructors, producing 320/m iron plates and 480/m iron rods, respectively. I don't intend to ever scrap these, as they are at max capacity, and will not need improving in the future. I want to do the same thing with the copper. However, if I turn the output of the copper vein into copper wire, and later I need copper sheets, I'll need to scrap the entire copper wire building to replace it with a copper sheet building, which I do NOT want to do. If I need copper sheets, I'll set one of my iron vein towards procucing the necessary wire instead, using iron wire.

that's why I'd like to know if copper sheets are something I'll need later on

cuz I can get copper wire from iron, but I can't get copper sheets from iron

[white dawn]

Can use the wiki to see what recipes require 'em, though the difficulty is that there's other stuff you make from copper sheets which might not be explicitly listed

!wikisearch copper+sheets

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=copper+sheets

[white dawn]

And how much you need of anything depends heavily on what recipes you choose and what rates you produce at

Anyway, what you're trying to do is a common impulse, for sure. I don't really have any advice personally for it, though, since IMO it's far better to approach it from a different angle instead. :)

(Oh, it's "sheet" singular; that's why the wiki search didn't embed properly)

[versed mesa]

👋

[lethal scroll]

it seems that everything copper sheets are used for, are crafted with not iron, but a different resource as the secondary component. Therefore, it does not seem immediately necessary to set aside copper for copper sheets at this particular plant. Cirquit boards, for example, require copper sheets, but also plastic, which this location does not have access to. Therefore ill be doing cirquit board production at a site that has both oil and copper, instead. Same thing with AI limiters, they require copper sheets as well as caterium, which is also not present at this site. Those I'll set to be produced at a location that has both copper and caterium veins, probably making good use of the caterium copper alloy alt recipes as well.

This is my starting location, so the only resources nearby are Iron (pure x6), copper (pure x1), and limestone (pure x2, normal x2)

this location I intend to make the main producer of any basic components made of iron, copper, and limestone combinations.

[icy jetty]

so does it bother anyone else that if you don't build a sky platform, the game is harder. but if you do, the game is ugly?

[lethal scroll]

I have NEVER in my life built a sky platform. I make it work somehow

[white dawn]

Seems like a decent cost-to-benefit ratio to me. :)

[lethal scroll]

I'm slowly converting this valley (the one I started in) into a layered complex of foundations, with the most basic components being produced on the bottom floors, getting more complex as I build up. I'm putting each and every factory in proper buildings, though

having less space does constain you towards using as little space as possible, though, but I like that aspect. it's finding a balance between using enough space so your factory does not feel cramped, yet using as little space as possible by making efficient use of the space you have.

[icy jetty]

well the sky platforms make it easy to use less space, but ya then you defeat the point of half the game.

[amber heath]

i just unlocked the dimensional depot, can i put an infinite type of items into there or is there a limit?

[white dawn]

There's a limit. Starts out at I believe just one stack of each item type. You can upgrade it to a total of five stacks (again, per item type)

[amber heath]

type of items.

[lethal scroll]

starts with one stack of each item, can be upgraded to store multiple stacks

[amber heath]

not amount

[white dawn]

Upload speed per Depot starts at 15/min but can be upgraded all the way to 240/min. You can have more than one uploader per type; four fully-upgraded concrete uploaders would resupply those stacks at a combined 960/min, for instance

[amber heath]

Im aware of all that, im asking item type

[lethal scroll]

no, each item can hold one (or more when upgraded) stacks, you can have one stack of every item in existance in there if you so please

[amber heath]

okay, thank you

[languid anvil]

which alt rec skip screws?

[cunning siren]

Auto-connect is pretty sexy and kind of a pain in the ass to setup 😆

[languid anvil]

im going to cry i got steel screws instead of cast iron

screws are the bane of my existence

[candid torrent]

a lot of alternate recipes cut screws out of trees

[coral bough]

I hate screws

[candid torrent]

same

[coral bough]

I never make enough😭

[cunning siren]

"The best part of the game is making screws" ~ Snutt Treptow, August 15th, 2023

[leaden turret]

Eat shit, chat!
~ Snutt Treptow, April 19th, 2022

[languid anvil]

yeah i have one for reinforced iron plates, however i like cast iron because it doesnt force me to get another resource like copper into the mix

i have yet to get it but im getting impatient

[coral bough]

😭

[candid torrent]

i love adhered plates because i have like 10 bazillion ruber