satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

Don’t you want to save the puppies and the kittens???!?

[real shale]

But you see, I'm that efficient that I have designed an algorithm that works for me

Efficiency is just clever laziness

I am working 10x harder

[wicked marlin]

so its just for fun and my rant about having hyper tubes be able to have packages of crafting items sent down them is thus valid.

[wicked nacelle]

If you want to transport it it can be easier to work with that way but you should generally just use oil where it is

Then transport plastic/rubber/packaged rocket fuel for drones

[real shale]

Dumping into the ocean

[wicked marlin]

i know i was just wondering if there was a real use.
some absolute gigachad has probably set up a truck system to cart all oil to a single location to process in a mega sized factory

[wicked marlin]

OH OF COURSE WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT

[real shale]

Make the BP crisis look like a happy little accident by comparison

[hard ivy]

to transport it as an item instead of a liquid

[unique kernel]

Basically what I half expect whenever I boot into a save thats 100% utilization of resources

[unique kernel]

"There are no accidents"

-Master Oogway

[cunning siren]

If one learns from a mistake maybe it's no longer a mistake

[unique kernel]

So that way you can put em in a cargo car like a fool instead of piping it into a tanker car like a man!

[unique kernel]

Unless thy in question believes its a shorter path than the that thy haveith been shown is more efficient

At that point its a mistake in denial sounds like my autobiography honestly

Taking the longer route cuz "ooh pretty trees" only for a few moments later be like "are we there yet?"

[plucky flower]

Im free from the caver

[unique kernel]

Find anything useful?

[wicked nacelle]

I converted all my oil fields to packaged (diluted) fuel and it took hours and hours but now my game runs super slow with all the fully populated belts :(. so I mostly stopped playing. I was done but that made tweaking things much less fun

[green fiber]

did you even have a use for all that fuel

[unique kernel]

Sir your treading very close to LGIO levels of shenanigans

[unique kernel]

Ide imagine "oh just the jetpack"

[pale dew]

Ive finished my coal plant, 2250 MW compared to my weak base 600MW

[plucky flower]

MAM resource

Quick question, I cant slide, what is up with that

nvm

[cunning siren]

Since BWD is so "sink efficient" I'm considering not sinking other stuff to conserve power 🤔 that is until I can get more power

Maybe, if I make enough power storage I can AFK and let it charge overnight for ez-mode power vs. doing the work for actual production 🤔 😆

[heavy anvil]

in the words of ADA, "ez-mode power is efficient power"

[unique kernel]

BWD? Umm Blue Western Digital?

[cunning siren]

What could be more efficient than storing all power and wasting none of it?

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Ballistic_Warp_Drive

[unique kernel]

Oh those things

[heavy anvil]

i wish i could use the extra ballistic warp drives i have as recoiless rockets

they are the right size

[unique kernel]

Or i dunno make a shuttle craft out of em so you can fly around the map? And can only be fueled by the nuclear fuels?

With ficsonium being the most effective of the 3

[supple mirage]

Hi, im new to the game and cant find an answer to this question.. i lock a hologram and try to rotate/tilt it with mousewheel but it just doesnt work.. aaahhh what am i missing?

[unique kernel]

Cant lock a hologram and rotate it

[supple mirage]

ok, but in videos they mirror this way

[heavy anvil]

well if i recall correctly, the BWD's basically go super fast and then just warp stuff into FTL travel

[unique kernel]

No they actually flip it then lock it then nudge it into place

[heavy anvil]

so i shoot a hog and its relative time is then zero i think

[supple mirage]

yes but i cant recreate that. i cant flip it when i lock it. how does this work?

[unique kernel]

Yep basically a warp core

[unique kernel]

Because you flip BEFORE you lock

[supple mirage]

ok, i can rotate left right, but how do i flip it?

[heavy anvil]

if you have 1 click building enabled that can also mess with it btw

[unique kernel]

Rotate twice

[supple mirage]

ok ty will try that thank you

[wicked marlin]

i really wish we could fully automate bio fuel, i love the idea of running the whole place off it.
just like, an algae tank that eats liquid biofuel and water to make biomass, enough that if you turn that back into liquid fuel you get more energy out of it
maybe be able to toss in any biological materials to boost producition, like edible plants and animal remains

[crisp jetty]

what's the multiplier from a mk1 miner to a mk2

[languid anvil]

i wish generators had 2 cable connections, so i can just connect 8 coal generators to eachother and the last one gets connected to a power pole

wouldve made things look so much cleaner

[vale grotto]

each tier of miner produces twice as quickly and uses 3x as much power

[crisp jetty]

slide hopping with the blade runners is so satisfying

[languid anvil]

it's actually so fun

[vale grotto]

AGREED

[languid anvil]

with the parachute combo?? omg

[crisp jetty]

theres a parachute???!!!!

[languid anvil]

i first thought thats how it worked, how disappointed i was to find out i twasnt

[languid anvil]

oph im sorry for spoiling it

[crisp jetty]

idc about spoilers, its a game about industrialization lmao

[languid anvil]

fair

yeah if you go exploring, you'll find some plants that give you mycelia

[crisp jetty]

oh ye i got hella mycelia

[languid anvil]

if you MAM it, you can at some point make a gas mask and parachutes off of it

[crisp jetty]

sweet

im about to build the quartz rover

[languid anvil]

trust me you'll never go back

the parachute is fun, but ofc it will be abandoned to it's better predecesser

[crisp jetty]

ziplines are pretty sick aswell

[languid anvil]

i havent cared to make them yety

i dont have a use

[heavy anvil]

the parachute is used to scale walls that are 91 degree angles quickly

[languid anvil]

yeah it's so funny

[severe siren]

anyone wanna play together?

[languid anvil]

#1201555265942724758

[pseudo epoch]

Any smart people wanna help me solve a logistical problem I'm having? I just made a post in the questions and help forum.

[prime rampart]

finally producing 8gigawatt thanks to turbo fuel but idk how to expand it

#screenshots

[solar sinew]

i need help where do i put help

[hard ivy]

maybe the #1038092680493801533 channel?

[dire wedge]

my game has crashed again

can somebody help?

[languid anvil]

just got advanced steel production

i am so scared for my life on the amount of dismanteling and fixing i have to do

[pale dew]

dont.

[languid anvil]

wdym dont

[pale dew]

at a certain point you have to abandon and build from scratch man

or it will only get worse

[languid anvil]

what?

no i meant that i need to fix my miners and belts

the factories themselves are working fine lol

[pale dew]

ohhhh

alr

[languid anvil]

i just wanna take advantage of the nodes nearby instead of making factories even further and further

[pale dew]

i mean releatable

ive not really left spawn area

[languid anvil]

once i get access to trains

i dont give a FUCK where i make my factories LMAO

but for now i wanna try to build everything as close as possible because the distance and running is making the game so annoying

[pale dew]

same here

ive been running like 400m long conveyors just for coal

but now? idfc

[solar sinew]

ive put a help can anyone help me

[pale dew]

and im not even on trains

[cunning siren]

Mk.2 belts 🤢 🤮

[wicked marlin]

lol had enough plastic leftover from raiding crashsites that Im about to get liquid biofuel without needing to actually have any oil plants

[pale dew]

i dont understand why are they so bad, like t 1 is alright and t 3 is much cheaper

AND better

[languid anvil]

literally

t3 being cheaper makes no sense to me

[solemn crystal]

whoever uses m2 belts is either an actual noob, desperate, or flexing

[cunning siren]

It's almost like the Devs were like: "Hey guys... lets make the players suffer horrifically... and then alleviate that suffering with (rewards)"

[hard ivy]

they are unlocked later. so they're better. that's how game progression usually works

[languid anvil]

then why make t2 so much more expensive

[heavy anvil]

are you producing more net steel beams than reinforced iron plates?

[zenith fractal]

i've noticed something

[languid anvil]

yeah

both factories are running at 100% efficieny too

[zenith fractal]

T1 T3 and T5 belts use only 1 resource per belt. T2 t4 and T6 use multiple.

[heavy anvil]

are you not using your steel beams for stuff?

[languid anvil]

i am,

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message @lethal scroll how did you make your map show buildings ?

[hard ivy]

? mk6 are the only ones that use more than 1

[hard ivy]

who doesn't?

[zenith fractal]

why won't you let me spread disinformation?

[heavy anvil]

net

[hard ivy]

yes, net

[heavy anvil]

i produce alot of steel beams but a lot get used

[lethal scroll]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map, it's not actually ingame

[heavy anvil]

only like 10% trickle into just storage

[hard ivy]

I produce not a lot of beams and all of them go into storage

well, until plutonium

[heavy anvil]

no industrial beams?

[hard ivy]

encased pipe

[cunning siren]

Most of the alt recipes I prefer to use essentially make steel beams "obsolete", to a silly degree

[languid anvil]

i just wanna unlock cast iron screws 😔

[cunning siren]

Ye, das a good one

[hard ivy]

It's still in my library and forever will be

[languid anvil]

okay i found a perfect spot to make everything that i unlocked from advanced steal production in one area

and it's not too far off from my base

all i have to do is upgrade my coal miner to MK2 and add 8 more generators LMAO

[lethal scroll]

I want all the alt recipes that do away with screws

I havent automated screws, and I don't want to either

[languid anvil]

literally the most annoying resource

i broke my brain trying to figure out a way to automate it (obviously used tutorials)

my current main factory is an amalgamation of 5hs of tutorials i watched

[cunning siren]

Cast Screws makes Copper Rotors SOOoo much nicer. I even made a "fancy" 4x constructor 1x assembler vertical stack blueprint since the ratios were so "tasty" #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

Hello guys, i started every time satisfactory again but yeah its not that nice for me anymore. but i didnt have other games to play. so what is an idea to do? which mods are good? mostly i get confused at the end game, how to make factories, every factory produce 1 thing? or more things at same time? how to build it?

[languid anvil]

the best part of this game is you can play it however you want

whats exactly not making it fun at the end game?

[peak wasp]

yes but that confuse me all time, idk if every factory should do one thing only or more, i hate the calculations. some times, a product to produce need soo much things before. it get me confused.

[tall lantern]

one thing at a time is fine

[cunning siren]

When you say "It's not that nice for me anymore", can you tell us more about that? Like is this a lack of enjoyment OR something else?

[peak wasp]

no, its only for me a confusing thing. so much to produce one sort of product. idk how to handle that overcomplicate in my head

[versed mesa]

This one part for phase 4 takes ages to make thats why multiple production to one individual item we need to make happen just like many making copper wire and cables then computers if not your waiting for ever just like me and this is a headache lol

[languid anvil]

i suggest using satisfactorytools

i cant send a screenshot of it, but i use it to visualize how the factories should "look" for the end products i wanna make

[white dawn]

I agree that when you first play through the game, Reinforced Iron Plates seem "expensive." But I promise I'm not a noob, desperate, or flexing when I use mk2 belts. I'm using them because I've automated RIPs at reasonable rates and there's no reason not to, if I don't have mk3s unlocked.

[cunning siren]

OK, so it sounds like it's confusing and the complexity bogs it down for you and you are not sure what to do about that

[peak wasp]

i do but i cannot build every time all again or? so as example: i have a single plate production, then a other proudction need plates, so build again and put after it the rest? or grab plates from the other single production

[languid anvil]

grab the plates from the first production

well

okay so let's put it this way

[tall lantern]

both are valid (if you have the numbers) but building a separate production line is usually the recommended suggestion

need 100 plates/min for your new thing? build a lil thing to make those

[languid anvil]

if the end goal is reinforced iron plates, it's fine to make another factory also product the iron plates if you have one running

but if the end goal is smart plating, then you should probably just grab the plates from the first production and move it elsewhere

ofc remove the items i mentioned and replace them with whatever, but the idea is if there's a long process of prodcution to get to the item you need, you should probably just grab the resources RIGHT BEFORE the end product from somewhere else, to minimize the amount of space, and rebuilding you're doing

[peak wasp]

okay thx

[cunning siren]

Okie dokie, so this may be a sort of flow planning issue. Maybe check out Satisfactory Modeler on Steam. It takes a while to learn AND it's super helpful in my experience for such issues

[languid anvil]

there's a thing on steam for satisfactory planning??

oh it's just a steam version of satisfactorytools

[cunning siren]

Not really, two diffrent tools that both have good stuff

[white dawn]

Nah, Modeller is a very different app. The two have very different use-cases. One's a solver/calculator, the other's a planner/modeller

[languid anvil]

ST also has a planner

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that some of us recommend just doing your planning/experimentation inside the game itself. If you use Modeller then you've gotta learn how to use Modeller on top of how to lay things out "well" in the game itself. Why double your workload, etc. :)

[white dawn]

satisfactorytools gives you the high-level chart of what a production plan could look like, but leaves all of the actual implementation details to the user. It doesn't try to tell you anything about belt speeds, miners, pipe speeds, where to split, how to arrange bunches of machines, etc.

[languid anvil]

i mean it gives you how much ore is going into how many production machines per min

the arrangement yeah ig that's fine, but thats where experimentation comes in

but it gives you enough to be able to build mini factories IMO, in case someone doesnt wanna learn Modeller

[lethal scroll]

the plants producing poison, and the weird termite looking structures that also make poison, what ways can you destroy them? I've been chucking nobelisk at them so far, but are their other ways?

[cunning siren]

Explosive rebar 4 teh win

[white dawn]

Right, because Modeller's a fundamentally different app; it lets you plan out how to arrange factories, taking into account specific machines and layouts and such. :)

[lethal scroll]

i should research that

[white dawn]

I mostly just bring it up 'cause some folks assume that Modeller is a "must-have" app but opinions on that vary. :)

(for that matter, sftools is also not a "must-have" app. :)

[cunning siren]

No tool is "must have" 🤷

All optional

[dim harbor]

explosive rebar is your surgical approach, but there's nothing like using jetpack thrust to detonate a cluster bomb in low orbit to clear an area

[languid anvil]

can you even run modeller and the game at the same time?

i dont remember if steam has limitations on that

[cunning siren]

You can, it's just like any other regular app

Cept it's from steam

[polar leaf]

dismantle tool

[sick falcon]

fr mk3 and 4 are so much easier to make

[polar leaf]

nvm Jace did a no dismantle run

ok but build tool

[cunning siren]

You... your... a dismantle tool

[polar leaf]

mods !!!!!!!!!

[leaden turret]

spectacle screwdriver is a must-have for people that wear glasses

[leaden turret]

can build with SCIM

[dim harbor]

is satisfactory even a game anymore at that point?

[heavy anvil]

no its a noosphere

[polar leaf]

factorio with more steps atp

[leaden turret]

it's a test runner

[polar leaf]

playing Satisfactory on 2d map ah

[cunning siren]

I have screwless glasses it seems 🤷

[lethal scroll]

how is rifle damage wise vs rebar gun?

[leaden turret]

might be burried under caps

[languid anvil]

once i get bored of this game, im getting cracktorio just to go over all the highs and lows all over again

[leaden turret]

bigger

[polar leaf]

you never get bored

[crisp barn]

can 15 supercomputers/m be considered a lot?

[polar leaf]

trust me

[languid anvil]

i genuinely hope so

[heavy anvil]

the ficsit™ pioneer helmet comes with included corrective lenses, for those pioneers who spent less time in their synthetic womb

[polar leaf]

I play 100 hours in a month, burnout, 3 months no Satisfactory, 100 hours in a month, repeat

[leaden turret]

:tm:

[languid anvil]

i think the only time ill get burnt out is when i start trying to make things look nice

[polar leaf]

After finishing my massive rocket fuel power plant like 3 months ago I stopped playing and now I'm back doing my massive aluminium factory and CO

[leaden turret]

what makes you think FICSIT would waste healthcare on eyeball-having disposable drones Pioneers? just wire a camera directly to the vision center of the brain.

[smoky seal]

Sup yall

[crisp barn]

what do you consider massive?

[leaden turret]

eyeballs can't pop due to extreme g-forces if you have no eyeballs

[polar leaf]

uses all bauxite in the world

Well I don't have mk6 belts yet but once I do it will

[crisp barn]

oh, that will take a while

I had so much suffering with just 1200 bauxite 😭

[white dawn]

Unacceptable: must also convert all the map's Caterium to Bauxite

[crisp barn]

dont you also need a lot of oil for that? for the alt recipe

[polar leaf]

I'll need a bazillion caterium for plastic ai limiter

no joke like 5k quickwire or sum

[real shale]

🤓

[crisp barn]

caterium is somewhat rare, no?

[polar leaf]

eh

[crisp barn]

there less of it than other resources at least

[polar leaf]

I'm a west coaster so I have like 3 pure nodes within 1 km

[real shale]

It's 2nd rarest I think?

[polar leaf]

🤓

[real shale]

Or maybe 3rd

Or maybe 4th

[polar leaf]

bro

its like 8th

☠️

[real shale]

No it's definitely not

[polar leaf]

it is

[real shale]

It's not

Its up there in rarity

[polar leaf]

Uranium -> SAM -> Sulfur -> Nitrogen -> Bauxite -> Crude Oil -> Quartz -> Caterium

[real shale]

There's more crude oil

And more nitrogen

[polar leaf]

there's 12600 /min of crude oil and 12000 /min of nitrogen in the map

and caterium has more with 15000 /min

[real shale]

That....doesn't determine rarity

Rarity and throughput are two completely different concepts

When someone talks rarity they mean the number of nodes

[polar leaf]

every biome in the map has caterium

not every biome has oil

not every biome has nitrogen

[real shale]

There's still more oil nodes

[white dawn]

I agree that you could think of it that way, but IMO throughput is a much better indicator of rarity

There's exactly that much of the resource available on the map, compared to other resources

That's what'll be your limitation when building megaproject-type things

[real shale]

Throughput and rarity are separate in my mind because think of it this way

Ask yourself the question "how painful is it to find another one and how quickly will my current nodes deplete?

[polar leaf]

It's easier to find caterium than crude oil or nitrogen

☠️

[white dawn]

As someone who habitually expands all over the map, going to find new nodes is not daunting to me. :)

[real shale]

It's easier to find anything when you get the object scanner

[white dawn]

Anyway, I see where you're coming from, but total available throughput is definitely the "de facto" measurement of resource rarity 'round here. :)

[polar leaf]

if you spawn in grassy fields for example there is a caterium node next door and crude oil and nitrogen are a km away

[real shale]

That's because it's grassy fields

If you go to any of the others spawns those become much easier

[white dawn]

Where nodes are doesn't matter, if you're willing to go out and get them. :)

[polar leaf]

rocky desert has caterium node closer too. Desert dunes as well

[languid anvil]

finally finished the versatile frameworks for the 2nd phase

[polar leaf]

only exception is northen forest but they are all close

[real shale]

grassy fields is a horrible example tbh, it's a good start but resource wise it's......on the meh side, trades convenience for purity and quantity

[dim harbor]

the only finite resource is time, and the best consumption of time is through blueprints

[languid anvil]

btw are all the starting areas part of the map?

[polar leaf]

yes

[languid anvil]

like if i start at grassy, can i go explore the other starter areas?

okay nice

[real shale]

Rocky Desert, Grassy Fields, Dunes and.... Whatever the other one is I forgot

[dim harbor]

northern forest

[real shale]

Ah yeah that one

[dim harbor]

the best one imo

[polar leaf]

nah I'm rocky desert team all the way

[real shale]

Dunes supremacy

[polar leaf]

dunes mid

you have to walk a shit ton to get anywhere

[real shale]

My sheer amount of resource nodes says otherwise

[polar leaf]

I'd argue rocky desert is just as rich

[cosmic pawn]

how clustered is too clustered for conveyers/piplines i am new to the game

[real shale]

I will....disagree

[polar leaf]

I mean yeah desert dunes has more iron and copper

[real shale]

Oh that's right I can't post images here

[polar leaf]

but I still prefer rocky desert starting wise

at the end of the game I'll just use them both so no reason to argue that

[dim harbor]

i build iron modules in dunes because i feel like i can waste more space there compared to other biomes with more resources

[real shale]

I am curious what the order in terms of number of nodes is

Actually.....funny....there's more Sam nodes than caterium

[cunning siren]

The nice thing about Northern Forest is there are two start locations AND almost everything is relatively close AND ample pure nodes. If you have issues with building vertically though, this may be a rough start for "you"

[real shale]

19 SAM nodes Vs 17 caterium nodes

[white dawn]

That's a very "personal preference" type question. Folks will have varying levels of acceptance for busyness / spaghetti. :)

[polar leaf]

yeah but half is impure while caterium is 50/50 pure or normal

caterium has a whole 5k more output globally

[white dawn]

In re: your post in screenshots, you can try hooking things up via a "manifold" setup instead; that's an easy way to make things look cleaner (though there's still some practice to be done)

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[real shale]

More sulphur and bauxite nodes than caterium

[white dawn]

^ eg, that kind of arrangement. Feeder pipes go "along" the machines, and you have one junction per machine

[real shale]

Oh wait no, sulphur has 1 more extra

[cosmic pawn]

ah

if i have enough copper

[white dawn]

(the inlined images there are assuming belts, but you can do similar things with pipes)

[cosmic pawn]

my base is so far away to get any more rotors and stuff

[real shale]

Quartz is 16

[white dawn]

Honestly in the early game don't sweat aesthetics too much. You'll get better with time, and it'll be easier to do so once you do have coal power up

[cosmic pawn]

no like it's around 1k meters away

[white dawn]

Can always redo some stuff later if it bothers you. :)

[sterile blade]

I bet Limestone is #1

[real shale]

46 crude oil

[dim harbor]

Yeah agree on the verticality, this is one of those areas where the game pushes you to taking off the training wheels and play Satisfactory instead of Factorio in 3D

[cosmic pawn]

and i'd have to walk on foot all the way back

[real shale]

It's not, iron is

Limestone is second though it seems

45 nitrogen gas nodes tho

[pale cedar]

Yo do you gotta pay for dedicated servers?

[real shale]

Caterium seems to be 4th beaten by sulphur, quartz and uranium in terms of node count

[sterile blade]

Not if you use your own

[real shale]

Technically I was right in saying 4th 🤓

[white dawn]

There are third parties you can pay to run dedicated servers for you, but as Vencam implied, you can just run the dedicated server software yourself so long as you have a home for it and the willingness to do whatever networking tweaks you need, to open up ports and such

[cosmic pawn]

i think i did the manifold thing right

looks a bit cleaner

my main base is way worse than this was prior

[white dawn]

If you do run into fluid problems, remember that you can open a #1038092680493801533 thread and inline images in there. Debugging liquid/pipe problems is always a million times easier with screenshots, and a thread over there is nearly always the easiest place for that

[white dawn]

Heh, everyone's first factories (in general) are a mess. :D

[shadow tiger]

has anyone ever had a bug where the fruit trees and berry trees did not generate? I have saves with dozens of hours, but on this new save there is just 0 spawns in the northern forest

[white dawn]

I still remember looking at mine and thinking that I really wasn't trying to emulate LGIO, it was just turning out that way anyway

[cosmic pawn]

like mine looks like those paintings with the mind bending staircases

and it's very slow

[sterile blade]

Except for mine, of course!
||Disclaimer: this is a lie||

[white dawn]

Heh, so it goes. :)

[cosmic pawn]

like one rotor takes like 1-2 minutes

[white dawn]

Honestly not at all uncommon. You'll get better!

[real shale]

If it uses sushi it is the best damn factory out there

[white dawn]

If you do find yourself struggling with being overwhelmed by stuff, I would kind of recommend checking out https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency, but so long as you're still having fun, you're doing it right. :)

[cosmic pawn]

i never played base or factory building games for that very reason

[real shale]

Why use manifolds or load balancers when you can just stick everything onto the same belt

[cosmic pawn]

it's always like a tangled pile

[dim harbor]

the map is huge and you can always build a new factory, you should feel good about making a spaghetti factory to get you to the next level

[sterile blade]

... that you can then manifold or load-balance

[white dawn]

Yeah, making "clean" factories really is just practice practice practice

Few people are gonna get it right from the start

[real shale]

Why do that though

[white dawn]

(That's another reason I like "Independency" -- gives you many opportunities to start from scratch, if you're just constantly making smaller factories instead of endlessly trying to expand your existing ones)

[sterile blade]

Also foundations. That's the foundation of it all

[real shale]

Are you telling me you aren't a true sushi belt believer that runs everything into a sushi belt and uses 100000 programmable splitters to split it into their machines?

[dim harbor]

you can spend way too much time trying to get it right, but if you just need 100 items or so it's rarely worth the time trying to perfect it

[cosmic pawn]

ah crap i have no iron

ok there is one within 300m

[sterile blade]

Well, yeah, but a manifold (or a balancer) can be fed sushi too (if it uses smart splitters) ^^
Aka sushifolds or smart manifolds or sushi-balancers

[cosmic pawn]

but it's likely on top of the cliff

[real shale]

I prefer the term programmable sushi

My sushi is coded in FICSIT++

[grave ocean]

is there a way to like get disks easier or do i just run around and find them

[amber heath]

is there any way for 5 constructors making 40 screws per minute to get into 2 assemblers with only having mk2 belts?

[cosmic pawn]

suprised i haven't seen any spiders yet

[real shale]

there's spiders in this game?

[grave ocean]

yes, its 200/2, split the middle one into two mergers and merge with two others than place into inserter

i can draw it and dm it to you if you want

[amber heath]

i'd love that

[sterile blade]

Only kittens~

[cunning siren]

And puppies

[real shale]

For those who use arachnophobia mode, reminder that Ada told you to save the kittens and puppies, not kill the kittens

[dim harbor]

You can unlock Hard Drive scanning in MAM which will help you find ones that are kind of nearby, and Radar Towers can tell you how many hard drives are in an area in the map.

If you want to cheat though, you can upload your save to SCIM and it will show you exactly where to find the remaining hard drives. https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[real shale]

Me using intense triangulation technique with my radar towers to find that one remaining blue power slug left on my map

[white dawn]

I'd essentially recommend what Clood said -- have dedicated screw-producing machines right in front of the assemblers. Basically don't even try to combine all the screw outputs

[dim harbor]

this is the way

[real shale]

(it was the one that's unobtainable)

[white dawn]

Personally I'd actually have 3x Constructors per Assembler, and underclock one to 50%. But Clood's idea of splitting the output of the "middle" one works too, of course. :)

[amber heath]

should i perhaps do 6 instead and underclock 2 of them to 20 instead of 40?

yeah

[dim harbor]

are there still wrecks that require quantum computer?

[white dawn]

Either/or, honestly. In that particular situation having the "middle" one get split might actually be a little more aesthetically pleasing. :)

But the real key with screws is really just "make them right in front of the machine that needs 'em"

[sterile blade]

*Supercomputers(?)

[dim harbor]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Quantum_Computer

[sterile blade]

Ewww, Fandom

[real shale]

Super quantum computers

[real shale]

That's the official wiki

[white dawn]

There are not, no -- the item was removed entirely in 1.0

[white dawn]

Fandom is not the official wiki, no matter what they claim. wiki.gg is (that's what the game's own wiki link will send you to, etc)

[real shale]

Yeah that's what the link is tho

[dim harbor]

i changed it when i realized i linked the wrong one

[white dawn]

(Fandom used to be the official wiki, long ago, but once they got thoroughly enshittified the wiki was moved over)

[real shale]

Oh you changed it lol

[white dawn]

No, CSS links to wiki.gg whenever they link to the wiki. (If you have an example of an invalid link, that'd be worth a post on their Questions site) Edit: Oh, I see, you were referring to the original link which the bots removed. Nevermind, sorry!

[dim harbor]

yeah almost immediately but not fast enough to get the reactions

[real shale]

Ew fandom

[sterile blade]

Still better than a hatersub, though

[dim harbor]

who doesn't like to watch 3 ads and videos while they look up a recipe

[sterile blade]

"Use this ancient Chinese trick to remove screws from your production lines"

[dim harbor]

I removed it manually unless you're calling me a bot which is fair

[white dawn]

Heh, you presumably got to it just before a bot did, then. :D The resident bot only allows certain domains. Got those lightning fingers!

[white dawn]

"Doctors hate this medicinal inhaler recipe!"

[sterile blade]

"Extend your BuildGun by >6.9 cm TODAY!"

[white dawn]

"Local construction-hungry pioneers are in your area!"

[grave ocean]

i dont understand blueprints

building every pipe and conveyor by hand is better

[leaden turret]

if you build x repeatedly and often enough that taking the time out of your routine to make a blueprint would take less time than building x repeatedly, make blueprint

[grave ocean]

i tried to make a blueprint for refineries

more pain than gain

pipes and belts didnt want to connect

yes i did use autoconnect

[dim harbor]

refineries are harder to build blueprints around than other buildings but its definitely worth the time to figure it out compared to building everything manually

at least blueprints for arrays of refineries when you can use 4 in a row

[grave ocean]

im building a 225gw fuel powerplant sooo

now just farming drives for the fuel recipe

[white dawn]

Honestly even before pipe/belt autoconnect, the blueprint system was very nice for refineries

Yo ucould at least get a nice chunk of 3 refineries in a blueprint, and then just hook up each chunk of 3

[sterile blade]

You often need to leave a tiny piece of belt before/after belt supports, that's what autoconnect connects belts to/from (other than splitters' and mergers' inputs and outputs)

[dim harbor]

ngl i fight with autoconnect and don't even bother with it for refineries

[white dawn]

As for fuel gens, if you're willing to deal with some real tight pipework, you can fit 4x fuel gens in a single 5x5 blueprint, which is nice

[grave ocean]

i just removed the suports soo it kinda wrks

[white dawn]

Personally I tend to stick to just 2 per blueprint so I can have more piping room for 'em, but even just that is a blessing for larger fuel-gen buildouts

[grave ocean]

that i might blueprint

[white dawn]

But yeah, dunno. Refinery blueprints save me a ton of work, generally, even without autoconnects

(I still haven't actually taken the time to play in v1.1; all my build time's been 1.0 and earlier)

[dim harbor]

i struggle with autoconnect most of the time

[grave ocean]

i jsut dont like the blueprint system comared to factorio

[hard ivy]

you need a well designed BP for it to work well. and even then it's still not perfect

[white dawn]

Like many aspects of comparison between the two games, they are definitely very different systems. If you go into Satisfactory hoping it'll work like Factorio (or the other way around), you're likely to be disappointed. :)

[sterile blade]

Omg, someone dropped the F word

[white dawn]

Fromage? Where?

[shy mulch]

Fomdan?

[shy fog]

Farfignewton?

[grave ocean]

ive enjoyed factorio a lot (1k hrs) and since a week i have hit like 60h in satisfactory and i really enjoy it. the only issue is lack of something like alt mode (just started color coding) and the bluerints

[dim harbor]

i trust that, but it feels bad to use precious space in my 5x5 grid just for autoconnect. that means i can only use 3 refineries in a BP vs 4

[hard ivy]

I fit 4 in it just fine

[shy fog]

unrelated to chaos talk: currently done with nuclear pasta, biochem done

[shy mulch]

That's what she said

[shy fog]

2 to go

[dim harbor]

is that using refineries 2x2 instead of 4x1?

[sterile blade]

I shove all input items into a single manufacturer hole 🥵

[hard ivy]

I don't think they even fit 2x2.

So yeah, I did a row of 4

[jade frigate]

Hello, I just put 144 fuel generators. Each one gives 250 MW of power, why I don't have 36000 MW then? (144*250=36000)

[shy mulch]

Do they all have fuel?

[grave ocean]

fuel not getting into all of them

900 fuel gens omg thats a lot to place

[jade frigate]

They all have green light so I think yes

[shy mulch]

Overclocked?

[shy mulch]

How much power exactly are you making?

[grave ocean]

maybe i havent thought about that

thats without overclock

[shy mulch]

Worth it to save the bother of placing so many

[jade frigate]

wait a sec I havet to check on thing

[grave ocean]

well i would need the slugs

[shy mulch]

What tier are you at

[grave ocean]

starting t7

[sterile blade]

250MW is the output of Fuel Generators at 100% (thus with a green light rather than white)

[shy mulch]

U OK with spoilers?

[grave ocean]

yeah ive watched a lot of gameplays from kibitz so i know whats going on in the future

[shy mulch]

Aha fair. If you've got the patience you'll be able to automate shard production in t9, without slugs

[grave ocean]

i know that

but we (playing with friends) prolly wont reach it fast

[sterile blade]

It's a bit of a shame that we can automate the shards instead of the slugs :/

[grave ocean]

imo automating slugs should be a earlier version where you breed them and they give a random tier every 2-3 minutes

[white dawn]

Slug -> Slug Juice -> Combine with HOR -> Process -> 2x Slug

Diluted Slugs!

[sterile blade]

I was just thinking it'd be nice to have a choice between making more shardz or having more shiny and colorful paperweights

[grave ocean]

slug -> slug essence + SAM -> 1.1x slug

[white dawn]

Mm, yeah, adding SAM is a good idea

That could be in the "process" phase

[grave ocean]

yeahh

[shy mulch]

This made me chuckle

[white dawn]

So Slug Juice + HOR in a Blender, maybe use an accelerator to combine the Diluted Slug Juice with SAM for the end result

Shame the Converter doesn't have a pipe input; that would've been ideal

[grave ocean]

sumersloop slug breeding

or smthn

[sterile blade]

10x slug - > 11x slug would be more in line with game logic (no fraction of items)

[grave ocean]

yeah yeah

or just a 10 min prod time and 1 ->2

[jade frigate]

nvm, wires wasn't connected

everything is all right

[grave ocean]

lol, that happens sometimes

[sterile blade]

Should also be done in a dedicated machines, to have a chance for some funny naming

• The Slugger
• Slime-maker
• Goo-eater

[grave ocean]

SBF - Slug breeding facility

[shy mulch]

Leave a purple slug and a lizard doggo in an enclosed area and every 10 minutes or so, a blue slug will spawn

[polar leaf]

Dilute it in water and drink it

Boosts energy for 20 minutes and then has a nausea effect for an hour

[distant umbra]

hey guys ive quit the game and now im lost in my world i dont know wtf i was doing and my factorys do numbers i dont quite comprehend i dont have any info on in and output and so on, how do i get back in ?

[viscid bobcat]

is 15k megawatts enough to complete phase 3, make a large factory and set up a train system?

[distant umbra]

ive also set up a big train system and huge 8story bus for materials but i have no idea why

[distant umbra]

just copy some oil refinery blueprint and you will have more than enough

[polar leaf]

Probably?

If you automated computers, hmf and oil in a good scale I highly doubt tho

[real shale]

🤓

[polar leaf]

I'm him

[real shale]

Incorrect

He is circular, you are not

[unborn nova]

max consum is what the max power of all the stuff connected is right

ye nvm

max cons is 155 and its making 75 im cooked

[real shale]

You are fine so long as you don't activate everything at once

[polar leaf]

I have jawline

[unborn nova]

ya thats the plan though, im clearing out more space rn to probably make like 2 more coal gens

[real shale]

Hm

Tricky situation, you might need to jump start those coal gens or isolate your generation temporarily

[unborn nova]

ya what ima do is use the first gen i got rn to support the other 2 that are supporting the actual factory stuff'

[real shale]

What you could do is separate the generation from the factory stuff temporarily and isolate the coal gens miners and water extractors into an islanded grid

And then when all of them are back on, connect back to main factory

[unborn nova]

ye

[real shale]

Thankfully in this sci fi world you don't have to deal with people complaining about losing money when you take outages :D

[unborn nova]

fr

[unborn nova]

theres like a really big rock ontop of one of the coal nodes, is that just something i cant get ridof without a special tool

[real shale]

You need a nobelisk for it

[near sedge]

is it a good idea to have like "emergency generators" with some biofuel in them so coal production for the powerplants can keep going in case of power going out?

[real shale]

When you have priority power switches maybe

But when you unlock power storage they become kinda obsolete

Because the batteries end up becoming peak shavers and fluctuation averagers, which is what biomass would do but on a smaller scale

The only application for biomass beyond power storage imo is for jump starting such like fuel generators

[near sedge]

alright, thank you!

[real shale]

Np

[timid frigate]

Need help with Milesstone achievement. in multiplayer my friend unlocked miles stone while I was offline and i didnt get it, is there a way to get the achievemnt?

[clever stone]

"Wowie I just unlocked nuclear energy I wonder what goes into powering—"

[rigid glen]

My brain shuts down around then

[clever stone]

Chriiiiiiiiist and I thought the aluminum stuff was complicated, I think I’m just going to find a different biome to set up the plant in

Any recommendations

[dawn goblet]

Swamp biome it sucks to begin with, and nobody goes there

You could also just build out in the void

[clever stone]

I actually really like that place ngl

It’s where my sulphur and quartz mines are

So

[polar leaf]

I'm doing it on the west coast on the water

Big ass facility

Preparing the blueprints rn

[clever stone]

Nice nice

My west coast is an oil plant rn but there’s probably more resources to plunder and drone over

[polar leaf]

Im doing my oil plant on north

[spare ice]

Hey guys quick question, packaged water is it from regular water or do Ineed to find a node?

or well ?

[polar leaf]

Because I need the oil in the west for petroleum coke for all the aluminium

[peak wasp]

hey hey hey

[polar leaf]

Regular water

[spare ice]

OMG

[peak wasp]

what's your opinion on solid steel ingots

[polar leaf]

There are water nodes too btw

You can pump water out of the ground with pressure wells

But what comes out is normal water not packaged

You have to package the water in the packager with the respective container

[polar leaf]

Game changer

More resource efficient

[spare ice]

Can I get packaged water from regular water?`:P

[polar leaf]

Yeah just package it

[peak wasp]

It seems more resource efficient when combined with pure iron ingots

[spare ice]

NIIIIICE

[crisp jetty]

I have made a reinforced plate farm, rotor farm, modular plate farm, smart plating farm, and a steel farm with these pure iron nodes I found is there anything I’m missing for phase 3?

[polar leaf]

Tbf the map has so much iron that it's whatever

I didn't use the pure recipe

[peak wasp]

Yeah but lazy

[polar leaf]

Refineries are too big and water is annoying

[peak wasp]

Seeking it out and carting it back to base

[peak wasp]

It's not too bad

[polar leaf]

I was aiming for space efficiency too this build so eh

It took me forever to decorate this shit

It's a huge ass building made from pillars on like half the rocky desert coast

[peak wasp]

I have a giant unlimited void space as long as I can made it neat I care little about space

[cosmic pawn]

how come only after 3 splitters does the coal only come out one by one while the previous 3 are full

[lethal scroll]

yo, I just spent way too much time overdesigning a power pole blueprint, it's in screenshots, what do you think?

[noble timber]

I was working with the detonator and suddenly my hand tools vanished. I push H but no hand tools. Whatever I did its never resolve that issue Reinstalling the game after deleted ALL files including the savegames. Playaing with or without mods its the same issue again and again. I try everything but its the same issue each time. I dont what to do now and my game still unplayable because I have no hand tools.

[crisp jetty]

do dimensional depot have a set range or are they limited?

i worded that wrong

do they have a set range or are they usable from anywhere

[dawn goblet]

Usable from anywhere as long as you’re not dead

[crisp jetty]

is there something more useful i should save my mercer spheres for

[dense violet]

nope

[crisp jetty]

do u guys implement dimensional depots in your factories?

[dense violet]

? they're just storage. No real 'implmentation'.

I don't really like them personally but I'm in the minority

[crisp jetty]

oh word

ill give er a shot

[dense violet]

@true mulch hey not sure what the go is but the bot doesn't give the preview images for wiki searches anymore

which is very useful for the coal gens thing xD or just getting people's attention

[shy fog]

try asking the bot for the coal thing

I wana see

[spice spindle]

Quick question before I plan too much. Are there actual roads for the trucks?

[dense violet]

you can make them? but trucks shine when you plan around them. Make factories and logistic lines around the natural roads

making tons of infrastructure just ot use trucks? might as well just use trains at that point

[spice spindle]

Okay good to know. I just unlocked them lol

[dense violet]

no stress 🙂 they just take planning and forthough.

a lot of people like trains I think because they'll often just build above all the terrain and have to think less

which is a preference I suppose

[dawn goblet]

It’s useful for your overflow to fill into. So you can build more stuff with the materials anywhere.

Whatever doesn’t fit in there you can just send it to the sink

[spare ice]

Do you guys know if there are any layouts out there?

For instance completing phase 3 if there some kind of layout

For the factories I mean

[dense violet]

there's no universal layout because everyone is going to output different final amounts and use different recipes

[spare ice]

Are there any of any kind?

Like a starter layout or something

[dense violet]

make a plan with tools and it'll spit out somethiung that could be a layout https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

make a plan, it'll spit something similar to what you need out

[spare ice]

Lemme try that ty 😄

[dense violet]

turn off the converter machine, or SAM ore, or the conversion recipes though

otherwise it'll try to use those recipes

[spare ice]

I see 😉 Just did 😄

[spare ice]

That was very nice thank you!!!!! Makes it 10 timer easier

[dense violet]

remember, these are basically just the raw numbers you need. You'll likely need to further break up the groups of machines to make the factories and systems more convenient for you

[spare ice]

I just want to compelte phase 3 LMAO

Or try to start atleast.

This game thinks im freaking einstein or something 😛

BTW is tehre anything that let me decide how much of anything goes on that belt ? Not direction but more so flow if you know what I mean

For instance I want 200 out of 360 ores to go left side or something

[dense violet]

make two groups of machines.
1 group that makes 200 and another that makes 360

[spare ice]

Okey so no splitter or something I see

[dense violet]

well if you had a belt that could do 560 you could just rely on the manifold to over flow and self balance

but in general, imo, it's much easier breaking down the groups into smaller groups (very often)

[spare ice]

Sorry for being a hassle but for instance, on the tools, 372 iron ore /min and it want 241 going on one side and 130 on the other side, thats why I was wondering

[dense violet]

oh that's fine, you can just manifold it

[spare ice]

What does that mean 😛 ?

[dense violet]

as long as it's not going to a sink or storage it'll self balance

a belt that feeds machiens and relies on overflow, like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1407002332239237210/1407004901015294013/image.png?ex=68ea666d&is=68e914ed&hm=e72774ae76ac6ccb8cf53dc1bc88c74b066509e58fef1a30b481da062ccf4db5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1232&height=1033

[spare ice]

So just feed it into belt and it will self balance 😛 ?

I see 🙂

[dense violet]

as long as

1. the belt is fast enough
2. you have at least enough parts per min for hte system

a manifold will self balance

for something like ore, that you can't really break up the miners with, it's a good method

and what you do after that is group SOME of the smelters together to send ingots to different places

[spare ice]

Makes sense now that you explianed it

[dense violet]

almost everyone will use manifolds w/o realising they are

[cunning siren]

Heyyy y'all ❤️

[spare ice]

Yeah 😉 Hey Bigspeck

I think ima stay phase 3 for some time, def not ready for this build up

[dense violet]

you'll get there easily dw

[spare ice]

Yeah it will take time;) Thats the beauty of this damn game

[cunning siren]

There can be some advantages to "turtling" in various stages of the game, don't let ADA pressure you to do what "the man" wants 😆

[spare ice]

Yeah I think phase 3 deff is a big wall for me right now 🙂 and ngl I quite enjoy the game roaming collecting etc etc...

[shy fog]

I'm finally working on stage 5 🙂

[spare ice]

No need to brag LMAO:P

Holy shiat that must be something 😛

[shy fog]

brag? I've got more hours than I should

[spare ice]

JK 😄

How many you into noiw ?

[shy fog]

as in I have crossed the 5th digit...

[spare ice]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 5TH DIGIT ?

[shy fog]

in hours

[spare ice]

You calc seconds lmao :P?

50ish hours ..... and you pass 5th digit 😛

How long has it taken 😛 ?

[shy fog]

no... 5th digit... as in a one with 4 zeros

[spare ice]

No I get that I ment me 50ish hours lmao :;D

How long has this game been around ?

[shy fog]

this specific run I'm at 928 hours

[spare ice]

Niiiiice 😉

[shy fog]

one manufacturer run=-)

my factory fits in one screenshot

[spare ice]

Is that even possible

or you do alot manually ?

[shy fog]

well I did cross phase 3 with everything manually...

but that disconnects the space elevator pieces

and started with the alien power source

[spare ice]

Huuh?

[shy fog]

you can't manually make the space elevator parts... but you can do almost everything before that step

[spare ice]

Havent gotten there yet 😛

[shy fog]

considering you said phase 3, you have

I am just waiting for the biochemical sculptors to finish atm

[spare ice]

space elevator parts cant find when I search in index but 😛 ...

[cunning siren]

I'm not a "hoarder" IRL and in this game there does not seem to be any disadvantage to having a box system store stuff, so I figured why not? 🤷 It's nutty to hear some folks plan is to "block out the sun" with storage containers in order to store their nuclear waste vs. make a system that processes it 😆. Part of me thinks that's kind of clever

The amount of oil on the map makes me wonder why do a massive nuclear build at all, maybe "eventually" one runs out of nitro or sulfur for power gens maybe?

[shy fog]

smart plating

[spare ice]

AH yeah that I recognize;)

[white dawn]

It's quite easy to make far more power than you'll ever need with either Rocket Fuel or Nuclear, for sure

Both of those easily pass into the scales of "I'm doing a megaproject just because I want to"

[cunning siren]

Yea, it does seem like power "can be" somewhat trivial and can be very daunting "your choice"

I like that the Nitro Rocket Fuel recipe makes the build dead simple and I'm starting to consider that I'll "eventually" run out of sulfur "abusing" the ez-mode way 🤔

OH dang, there is 10800 Sulfur on the map? Nevermind

That makes the next "plan" easy 🤔

[white dawn]

Yeah, you really have to work hard to exhaust resources on the map

The only thing that's slightly more likely to run out is SAM since the things that need SAM need a lot of it. (Ficsonium processing in particular eats a lot)

Though if you sloop the RSAM steps for that, you've still got a huge amount of headroom

[hushed canopy]

my current issue is making an expandable transport system to get resources where i can build a factory

i havent setup any roads or trains yet and need to make a factory for computers and other things in the desert and setting up my aluminum production

[lone marten]

Because it's fun and cool and it gives you more power than most people can actually use even with megabuilds

But generally a turbofuel plant should be enough if you don't build too huge

[cunning siren]

I have yet to use a lot of SAM 🤷 I don't usually play "sandbox mode" much and it's something I'm looking into doing a bit more of this playthrough. Ficsonium processing seems to not be a thing I would be "into" so I'm not really sure where to "go" from here. I just made an insane amount of diamonds and will probably sink the time crystals till I find some use for them later

[white dawn]

Ficsonium is quite niche, for sure. It's definitely not worth it for a lot of people

[lone marten]

I mean if you're gonna make the massive uranium+plutonium build, you might as well go for full and do ficsonium

[white dawn]

It really depends on how much you want to burn Plutonium rods, and how much you care about "clean" nuclear

If you've got any wiggle room at all on either of those requirements, Ficsonium's a hard sell

Its energy efficiency is pretty awful; you spend about 66% of the energy you get out of the Ficsonium step just making the Ficsonium in the first place. And it's really SAM-heavy. The biggest Uranium+Plutonium builds literally can't go full Ficsonium because there's not enough SAM on the map for it

[lone marten]

Even with sloops?

[white dawn]

Yeah

[lone marten]

Whoa

[white dawn]

Without slooping RSAM I think you're okay until about 1TW or so of nuclear power (in total); slooping the RSAM would push that out to maybe 2TW

[lone marten]

Reminds me to sketch out my nuke build so I can catch this :V

[white dawn]

(That's assuming that you're reserving at least some SAM for the other production things which need it)

And as Ficsonium haters will tell you, it's trivial to make more power than you'll ever need with just Uranium. So it's, y'know, sometimes a hard sell.

[lone marten]

I was thinking of a more pedestrian 500gw and then it becomes a bit excessive

[white dawn]

Really comes down to the confluence of those two requirements: 1. Burn Plutonium, plus 2. Clean Nuclear

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, U+Pu+Fi will be just fine for just 500GW target; that's about what I did on my 1.0 save

[lone marten]

And 3. You want to make ficsonium plants :V

"just" 500gw

[white dawn]

Yeah, at about 500GW gross nuclear (U+Pu+Fi), I was using about 60% of the map's SAM (which includes all the other non-nuclear uses I was putting it to; I'd estimate the nuclear component was maybe 40%)

Slooping RSAM would give you a lot more, of course.

[lone marten]

I'm probably not gonna choose the alts that are the most uranium-efficient, because I do want to use all of the U on the map as a game goal

[spare ice]

Sorry quick question, when I try to remove something, it says dismante mode:Blueprint and I Cant remove anythingh ?

[white dawn]

Hit R to change build (well, dismantle) modes

In the blueprint-dismantle mode you can only target placed blueprints

[spare ice]

DAMN TYYYYY

[lone marten]

But yeah I have a date with the satisfactory planner tomorrow

[white dawn]

hottt

[lone marten]

Very 😏

[restive crest]

Any realise date for satisfactory on ps5?

[white dawn]

November 4: #announcements message

[restive crest]

Thannnyou!!!

[cunning siren]

Question for the 1k+ hour folk out there; is it a "bad plan" to rely on MK.6 at 1,200 throughput for a "big" fuel gen build? The thought is if lag happens and the system eventually falls behind and needs a "re-prime" restart thing every so often 🤔. Maybe I'm overthinking this

[wicked marlin]

ugh i struggle with long distance truck routes

[white dawn]

For stuff I'd personally consider "long distance," I agree; it gets difficult to get routes down and such

IMO they're quite good up to midrange, but I don't tend to push 'em much further than that

[wicked marlin]

im trying to plan a route from the tide pools in the south east to the grass fields where I have my main base.
I have a biofuel plant that I need plastic for and I dont want to have to go all the way out there just to empty the DD of leaves and wood

[spice spindle]

HOLY CRAP I FINALLY SET UP MY VERY FIRST TRUCK ROUTE! I'M SO PROUD LOL

[versed mesa]

Hello all

💪

[cunning siren]

TIL: Pipe junctions snap to many surfaces and are very handy to place BEFORE you lay your pipe 🤔

Mah pipes "were" so ugly before and I didn't know how to fix them 😭

[leaden turret]

make the pipe junctions the meatballs in your spaghett

[dim harbor]

does that make foundations the plate

[leaden turret]

best spaghett is plateless 😛

alternatively, biggest plate is map

[dim harbor]

brother, how are you eating spaghetti

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[cunning siren]

All this talk about 🍝 reminded me how hungry I am 🤔

[cunning siren]

OK now I feel much better about mah pipes

Is it me OR do vertical pipe snap points not align with horizontal ones?

Whelp, thats a bummer

[leaden turret]

?

[cunning siren]

For example, If i snap a junction to a horizontal surface AND then one to a vertical surface AND then I nudge one over to the other... the join points do not perfectly align 🤷 It's close AND not perfect

[leaden turret]

ah

game is satisfactory, not perfectory

[ashen belfry]

But perfection is satisfaction

[shy mulch]

How far would you consider 'mid range'

[cunning siren]

TIL: I can not reliably "get" 1200 from MK.6 in my situation, probably cuz 🥔 hardware 🤷. Thats fine they give us all sorts of tools to handle that

Powah upgrade is....

Com-plete

We up to 115 MW it seems, most power I've ever had in a run 🤔

[surreal meteor]

Do you recommend using blueprints for aluminum refinement? I'm considering using it to build many small aluminum ingot factories, as its more expandable than building a single large factory.

[cunning siren]

Personal preference really 🤷

[simple mango]

Does anyone have an aesthetically-pleasing method of stacking refineries that isn't a leaning tower of offsets for smokestacks?

[frail sleet]

power tower, 40m+ tall floors so that smoke isn't clipping

[simple mango]

yeah, that's the fallback option is just going as high as the blueprinter can go and straight up

If only we had mirrored machines I'd have more options

[hushed canopy]

oh boi, time to get a grip and tackle my factory problems, roads and manufacturer setups need to be done, so much stuff, then ofc rails too

[cunning siren]

Impossible to know what is subjectively pleasing to you 🤷. It seems like there are not many options with the size and strange shape of fuel gens 🤔 probably why there are "glitch" blueprints to address that

[hushed canopy]

if only we could mirror while building 🙁

[simple mango]

or it the refinery input/output ports were far enough apart that you could put refineries "ass-to-ass" and offset by half and have things still line up

unless there's a trick to clipping machines by force?

[hushed canopy]

donno, but ehh you can build some pretty interesting setups since the pipe and conveyor inputs dont align

i still need to practise building vertically utilizing more floors, still on my first world after 80 or so hpurs

looking forward to building roofs and smokestack slots on my coal plants

[simple mango]

"interesting things can be built [voluntary]" or "interesting things _must_be built [punitive]"?

gahh stupid blueprint autoconnect requiring stub belts and pipes and then not merging them into a single belt or pipe drive me nuts

1 meter long pipe segment? surely will not cause any problems.

Power towers should be wide-area hoverpack operation zones. :I

[frail summit]

i think i've created a new method of doing a hypertube cannon

https://youtu.be/G76OQaKlhZo

[cunning siren]

Is that a thing where "short" pipes cause issues?

[simple mango]

purely speculative, but something I entirely expect

[cunning siren]

I KNOW I've got some super short pipes in place and they seem to work 🤷

For some silly reason I try to min max water extractor locations 😆 AND sometimes that means holding CTRL to snap two extractors outputs super close and joining them with a pipe. Then I put a junction between them and sometimes it's super "tight fit" so to say. Junction sometimes clips into the output, I bet THOSE pipes are very short and they work 🤷

[hushed canopy]

i have found that alignin pipes diagonally has some issues with the supports, need to delete em and connect the pipe again for some of it to work, but i mean you can make some non symmetrical stuff, which i do enjoy sometimes

[simple mango]

I wouldn't mind the leaning tower so much if it were in isolation, but I'm planning to build some "ordinary vertical stuff next to it

[hushed canopy]

wanna hop into a vc while playing? i can show you my coal plant

[simple mango]

thanks, but I've already resigned to 5x5x5 cube blueprint and started the build

[hushed canopy]

alright, enjoy the process

[simple mango]

[slouching, disshevelled, dead-eyed, figurative cigarette idly burning in my mouth] "I have to move this whole fuckin thing to the other side of the railroad to have enough water" my process

table_flip.gif

[hushed canopy]

hahhah, well for me i dont have any transport infrastructure so i need to set all that up, and a fuel power plant, and aluminu, and redo steel and coputer production on a proper base. so i have my work cut out for me aswell

the belting, oh the belting

[simple mango]

lol I just demolished the entirety of my oil production because it was so bad, trying to build back. I built an entire Uranium Fuel chain and power plant infrastructure so that I could afford to turn of the fuel gens.

I am in a hell of my own making, praying that I don't accidentally waste all the plastic and rubber in my dimensional depot

[hushed canopy]

i worked of my starter base until now, i have phase 4 and the milestones to do. the old base while efficient is not suited for all this higher tier stuff

this is why you have plastic and rubber going into a dimensional depo form a factory

i got my plates, rods and a few other necessities setup in a way where my original base supplies my dimensional depo with some of the earlier tiers of stuff like modulars, rotors, stators, motors and such, including some steel products

but it cannot make compurters or anything over those with enough efficiency, sadly

[simple mango]

I try not to think of the dead-end production at the starter base <_<;

going whole-hog on "just ship raw materials and manufacture everything on-site".

[hushed canopy]

hahah, thankfully i been doing enough exploration that i had enough mercers to get 3 stacks and a good rate of upload in addition to like 10 dimensional depos

[prime rampart]

guys

[hushed canopy]

yes?

[prime rampart]

could yall tell me if this is good

#screenshots

[simple mango]

ok, but everyone seems to hate what I do so...

[hushed canopy]

hmm? what do you mena

[simple mango]

slime?

[hushed canopy]

and @prime rampart there is a good amount of space if ou want to setup walkways

but im no expert in building factories though

[simple mango]

OH they linked the channel, not the post.

it just kept showing me the slime post

[hushed canopy]

lol

[simple mango]

I always build things out along the same axis so that if you want to add more you can always bolt onto the end of the line. when you build things perpendicular they'll eventually collide

[hushed canopy]

and its good to think vertically as well, incase you want to expand upwards and use the horizontal space for something else

[simple mango]

also yes

[prime rampart]

yea ill make it nice after i expand it

i have 3blenders that make more then needed so thats why i wanna expand

but idk how ill have 13 refineries set up

[simple mango]

more pipes

[prime rampart]

but fluids suck going upwards

ive already wasteed 3hours bringing pipes here

the water is like at the end of the map

and im in the middle of dune desert

[simple mango]

I'm planning out the contingency of using all 2700 oil at the northwestern field and one HOR line can be 15 refineries long, so I'm planning to build 6 stories of 15 machines

[dense violet]

No. Keep pipes simple, you've got a ton of pointles merges and splits

[simple mango]

because a line 90 machines long is a no thanks

[dense violet]

if this is what you were trying to do no wonder you wasted 3hrs

[prime rampart]

no no

[simple mango]

tell us what you really think

[prime rampart]

transferring pipes

[prime rampart]

for fun

[dense violet]

do you care if it works or not?

[prime rampart]

no need for junctions?

[prime rampart]

OFC I DO

[simple mango]

I think they're referring to your web of manifold

[dense violet]

then don't have random interconnections

[prime rampart]

where r the random interconnections

the junctions that i placed?

[dense violet]

I was.

[dense violet]

pinged you in the other channel

[simple mango]

yeeee my uranium rods finally backed up into the grinder

and the air around the waste dump tastes like TV static

[versed mesa]

Thats phase 4 complete finally

[hushed canopy]

imagine if the animals grew extra legs or heads in an irradiated area lol

[cunning glade]

chat #screenshots message im halfway down with the gens and have the logistics done for the power plant i think it looks quite nice

im so glad i did oc them even placing this many feels like it takes forever

[dense violet]

yes, that's why nuclear

[cunning glade]

need power too get me too nuclear

[simple mango]

I am begging everyone to right-click the message that they want people to look at and select "Copy Message Link" and paste that instead of just pointing at an arbitrary channel and hoping that we all know which post to look at. eg: #screenshots message

[cunning glade]

happy?

[simple mango]

never

[cunning glade]

why

[simple mango]

[looks at the slime post again]

[cunning glade]

cant never be happy

idk maybe im a simple guy i hear fire song im happy

music is just so peak

still wish soundtrack was louder

[simple mango]

do you has teh boom box?

you can also just turn everything but the music down and your speakers up

[cunning glade]

I just wish it was risk of rain 2 levels loud cuz it's that good

[cunning glade]

Ye never grab it tho lol I should tbh

Wanna find the tape from deep rock too

[prime rampart]

is this 2:1 ratio for aluminum better then the normal one?

[dense violet]

for hte ingots? up to you. Is it worth it to bring in more silica to make more ingots

[prime rampart]

i dont use silica but i already like made the factory but if ur saying making it bigger yea ofc

[dense violet]

are you talking about hte 2 ingot recipes? the one that uses silica vs the one that doesnt?

base ingot vs pure ingot?

[simple mango]

Layer 1 mostly constructed: #screenshots message

I hope I'm not stupid enough to run into the train station behind it

[thorny glen]

is the water tower mechanic still im the game?

where you can have a blocked of pipe give an other pipe a lot of elevation

[prime jasper]

I am setting some iron ingots production recently. What are your thoughts on basic iron ingots?

It got the best iron ore to iron ingots ratio and limestone doesn't seem to be a really rare ressource at the moment.

I am at the last phase and I realised I needed to upscale my iron and steel production (and I need iron ingots anyway in order to be able to use the best steel recipe). I tried a few different one already but I am not sure which one I will use for this. For now I am thinking basic ingots.

[scenic niche]

for the love of god can someone explain how the FICSIT do train signals work

I have one big loop, with a station attached at each end. If I want multiple trains to run on the track do I need to space out PATH signals all along the rail?

I only have blocks at the stations

[shy mulch]

Block signals are just separators, so you can use them to make 'blocks', a train won't enter a block if there's already a train in that block. Stops them from crashing.
Path signals are optional, you can use them as the entry markers to junctions, they allow multiple trains to enter the same block if their paths aren't going to cross

[cunning siren]

Awww, this place had a HD and a sloop on the same spot 🤔

[dense violet]

sure? but you get teh same effect by just having a pump

[scenic niche]

So if my track very long, like half the map, and I want multiple trains running on it, like 8, do I need to block off sections every few 100m? If a train tries to leave a station, but the next block is 20km long and the train in front of it is still on that block then it will wait till the block is clear?

[pale dew]

Oh i wish you could send photos here

At what point should i just abandon/destroy/remake the factory ive sent on screenshots?

[scenic niche]

I rate leave it be, when you get blueprint designer then make a nice factory and plop it down somewhere else

let the old factories keep chugging along lots of nodes to expand on and rebuild

[pale dew]

i mean its pretty efficient since ive made it using calculators

had to overclock 2 machines even tho im still in phase 2

i wish i could like have a better spot but im intimidated by the map

[scenic niche]

Soon you will be all over the map, it's yours to conquer

[pale dew]

i cant find a good flat spot with enough nodes

and i dont have the nerves to trouble shoot 500 meterlong conveyor highways

[scenic niche]

in those stages you can use trucks to move stuff, dont be afraid to just build a big platform of foundations and terraform how you want to

[pale dew]

ok

can i destroy the gas nodes tho?

with nobelisks?

[scenic niche]

If you research nobelisks you can blow them up

[pale dew]

ok

[scenic niche]

good luck!

[pale dew]

btw the blue circle is spawn location and red one is where ive beenhttps://imgur.com/a/Iq7cm0g

[pale dew]

one more question should i have lots of factories for each of the things or just for the final products?

like one for the smart plates and one normal plates or just for smart plates?

[scenic niche]

Someone else can chime in here, but as far as I know space elevator parts are only used for other space elevator parts, so if you really want to you can separate those from normal parts factories

[pale dew]

really? theyr only for space elevator?

[scenic niche]

Im pretty sure yeah

[pale dew]

i mean it seems like it, they each have only one use

[prime rampart]

YEs

[hushed canopy]

so is it better to just overclock a fuel powerplant instead of making about 20 fuel generators (thats a lot of fuel gens and it would look dope but man i aint got time to lay all that pipe for refineries and belts for sinks)

[frail sleet]

Yes

[scenic niche]

ty

Does cart length impede the trains torque? And would it eventually be unable to move given a long enough train?

[frail sleet]

now that i think about it, you could probably put a block every ~80m and any train that is a multiple of 5 carts would work efficiently. Smaller ones could take 1 block, larger could take 2, even larger take 3 etc.

[frail sleet]

you need a certain locomotive to cargo ratio. 1:4 always works, but something like 1:20 can work on a completely flat track with slower acceleration

an 80% "cargo ratio" is fine enough so i would just do sets of 1:4.

[scenic niche]

Ok perfect

I can always just have more trains I suppose

[frail sleet]

yeah, or longer to an extent (just with more locomotives)

[scenic niche]

I'm tring to leave the grassy plains so just carting every completed component to the desert to continue phase 4 there

[cunning siren]

One for smart plates is good, you'll be making those for all 5 phases

[scenic niche]

can loco's be attached from to back?

[pale dew]

alr ty

[frail sleet]

you can and probably should use dimensional depot to access those materials

[scenic niche]

Im not ingame right now so cant test

I want throughput tho so I don't need to redo everythign I've made that side of the map

[frail sleet]

why would you have to redo anything

depot can upload whatever you want to build with

[scenic niche]

Arent depots really slow?

[frail sleet]

they are arbitrarily fast because you can easily build more

[scenic niche]

Ah ok I'll check that out too

[frail sleet]

like putting 10 depots on concrete is totally valid xd

[scenic niche]

Wait can you conveyor out of depots?

[frail sleet]

yes

[scenic niche]

WHAT

[frail sleet]

I mean

you can't use dimensional depot to teleport items from A to B to feed machines at B

[scenic niche]

Ah

[frail sleet]

but why would you do that

[scenic niche]

ok I was about to bust

[frail sleet]

it sounds like you manufactured loads of materials at grassy fields that you don't actually need

and you're looking for a way to transport them across the entire map and spend them there, for purposes other than build gun?

[scenic niche]

I started at grassy, I've looked at it for 300 hours, I hate it now

[frail sleet]

but why are you trying to take materials with you for anything other than the build gun

if it's build gun, depot has you covered. If it's not, leave it there and build fresh

it's not worth moving scraps on a 10km trainline to feed a machine on the other side of the world basically. Really, any train line at all (barring a well organised and already built system)

[scenic niche]

Well it's like all iron components, all caterium components, motors, rotors, early space elevator parts etc

stuff I'll likely need to continue building other parts

im not trrying to move ingots is what I mean

[frail sleet]

If and when you make a part that needs them, you can manufacture them in the needed quantity from ore and that takes much less work than dealing with old, dependant factories

[pale dew]

hey dont talk like that about my biome

[frail sleet]

if it's for build gun, depot is perfect

[scenic niche]

ok maybe I need to just let it be, I got everything hooked up to depots already

[pale dew]

btw how do i make hyper cannons accurate?

is it just trial and error?

[scenic niche]

And franky I hate trains

[prime jasper]

Kinda ye

[frail sleet]

You can control your velocity in the air with WASD keys, and jetpack. That control increases with turbofuel and rocket fuel.

[pale dew]

you think i gto a jetpack?

i barelly am producing the elevator parts

lol

[frail sleet]

para then

[scenic niche]

research some fungus

[dense violet]

then yeah, figure out if it's worth it. Most people use pure I think

[prime jasper]

We all started here I think.

There is several obscure things that can completely fuck your networks.

But eventually I kept trying and now I like them. But I admit there is definitely some obscure things around them.

[pale dew]

jetpack is not a hub thing?

[dense violet]

up to you. Make blueprints

[cunning siren]

No run speed buff with coffee? Lame 😝

[frail sleet]

jetpack is start of p3, but that's like 15% of the way into the game as far as prog is concerned. Not long between hypertubes and jetpack. That's how most people use the tubes. Their direction doesn't even really matter, since you can easily do a 180 degree turn with jetpack

[pale dew]

oh ok

[frail sleet]

for parachute you have to at least kind of aim in the general direction, and yes trial and error if it goes to the completely wrong place

[pale dew]

everything fun is at phase 3 smh

[prime jasper]

Overcloak everything man.

There is enough power shard to overcloak everything. In fact you can even have infinite power shard.

[scenic niche]

Right now I am in the halfway point of hate/love. They are like printers, they work, or don't work, completely at their own whims.

[hushed canopy]

i may or may not have 130 lying around in my inventory

figure i can just run 4 refineries for 8 fuel powerplants

rn tryna get my walkways aligned for this so i can have intersections in the midle since they clip into the upper parts of the plants

[scenic niche]

BUT Aeryn made me realise at some point during phase 4 my mindset changed, instead of being outcome driven I'm too focused on the minutia of transport.

[prime jasper]

I have been there too. Don't hesitate to post in #1038092680493801533 when you have a problem, it helped me a lot (but it still took me lot of time to get the hang of it).

[scenic niche]

Just gonna go back to building factories, that's why we love the game.

[mortal ginkgo]

I really understand how making long belts is cool and stable.

But I just love my currently in number of 3 tracktors just wobbling around.

🚜

[cunning siren]

First time in a truck, runs over a doggo OOOOooof

Last time in a truck...

[hushed canopy]

man tryna angle these walk ways on the fuel powered generators is major pain

[pale dew]

https://imgur.com/a/QEukeQI i mightve overkilled a bit with the hyper cannon

mind you i still was going

[true mulch]

I think you should maybe take the train

[pale dew]

the ammount of lives ive taken with the sugarcube

[mortal ginkgo]

Listen I get it. I could make compacted coal where the coal or sulfur.
But instead I made it in the middle of them so I could have 2 tractors wobbling around!

...

I am not good at life choices, but boy do I not feel any regret.

[pale dew]

Ive decided to use ratio calculators very early on and then i wondered why i dont have neither power or the stuff for buildings

[prime rampart]

guys im having a problem anyone care to help

[pale dew]

with?

[dense violet]

ratio calculators?

[pale dew]

yk the thing that ells you how many of each you need to produce certain ammount of things

https://kirkmcdonald.github.io/satisfactory-calculator/calc.html#items= use this one

i use this one*

ive said i in the url by accident

[dense violet]

ah just a planner

this one is a lot more user friendly https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[pale dew]

ive played some banger factory making game on roblox and it got me really into those typa games

[prime rampart]

nvm it works

[pale dew]

i mean ive already learned how to use that one

[prime rampart]

finally a 2way train

now i gotta learn t junctions (do roundabouts help)?

[pale dew]

the bad thing is that it only allows you to input what you want and not what you have

[dense violet]

yup. it's clunky too

tried it ages back

[pale dew]

its the first one ive found so i didnt care

[dense violet]

doesn't look like you can make multiple tabs either

[pale dew]

after all im only at phase 2

[pale dew]

you mean google tabs or?

[dense violet]

or move the nodes

tabs within the planner for more plans