satisfactory

[cursive totem]

isnt building the factory the machines?

[lethal scroll]

MFW I was building a walkway to get to the coal deposit, and I went the exact opposite way 💀

[grim ermine]

I guess I mean the building to contain the machines

[cursive totem]

ooh ok

i dont bother with those haha

give a a foundation and im happy

[grim ermine]

I attempt to make a nice building for everything but it almost never looks good lol

[cursive totem]

i have dabbled in it, even got some in #screenshots message

but its really so much work and doesnt pay towards my current goal so i dont anymore

[grim ermine]

Fair enough

[cursive totem]

the one thing i learned; add depth. like have a flat wall and then just start adding bits to it, protruding outward

and another; there are no mistakes. e.g. i placed some foundations / beams that looked wrong and instead of redoing it, i took it as "no no this is actually intentional" and worked with it instead

[lethal scroll]

yup, depth, material/color variation, then details

[cursive totem]

also clipping is your friend XD

[lethal scroll]

I somehow don't seem to have many screenshots of my factories anymore, but I there is one from the outside of a building, this is from ages ago tho #screenshots message

[grim ermine]

That's really good

Better than what I can do atleast

[lethal scroll]

it's a step by step process

if you're doing small, environmental builds, just wing it entirely

[cunning siren]

The strange choice to limit belt / track / lifts to "segments" perplexes me. Imagine how simplified it would be If I could stretch a single train track (or belt) from one side of the map to the other

If the game needs to break it into segments for whatever reason that's fine, why stop me from building to do it?

[cursive totem]

i just posted one of my "good ones" in #screenshots

its producing all types of explosives for the detonator

[grim ermine]

That looks sick

[lethal scroll]

if you wanna do a bigger, more planned building, do as follows:

1. figure out how much ACTUAL space you need for all your machines
2. figure out how you're gonna get around in your building (walkways, etc)
3. based on this info, define the minimum perimiter of your building
4. fancy up the perimiter outline a tiny bit (add pillars, make it a nicer shape, make sure the sides of the building are even/uneven, making sides equal/multiples of each other, planning symmetry, whatever else you can think of)
5. build your actual functional factory - foundations, floors, machines, walkways
6. place down surrounding walls filling out your perimiter shape
7. replace plain walls with new colors/materials/glass etc
8. add details

it's not a set recipe, but it's a general plan

you don't have to have the entire building with all the details visualised in the beginning. Defining your perimiter, expecially your minimum perimiter though, is essential

and START with the functional parts. You really don't wanna build a nice looking building, only to realize one or more machines don't fit

[reef basin]

or the other way around - just build the factory and then encase it in walls after it's done

don't need to figure any space in advance 😄

[lethal scroll]

also try to be mindful of your inputs and outputs. What needs to come INTO this structure? what will go OUT? WHERE will those in our outputs be?

[reef basin]

(but it may not look best)

[lethal scroll]

that is basically the same thing, just worded a bit different

[cursive totem]

yeah thats what i do haha

[lethal scroll]

although for me, I do like to be mindful, even when just building the factory, of where inputs and outputs will be

else you might have to fiddle a lot to make it look nice later

[cursive totem]

however more and more i kinda appreciate open factories. i actually love to see all the movement on the machines

im thinking my next playthrough will be more akin to that one world save where the dude just put everything almost flat in the desert plains

i love how busy that is

or kibitz's turbo fuel plant which was open air as well. it looks so cool

[lethal scroll]

that's where strategically placed glass comes in, for me. a nice encasing, while still seeing the moving parts. Or doing stuff like having conveyer lifts on the OUTSIDE of your building, going out through the wall on one floor and coming up into another.

[cursive totem]

oh yes we do love outside pipes/belts. good stuff

[lethal scroll]

you can use some of the functional bits AS decoration as well, those are the best bits

@cursive totem ooh, just saw the screenshots of the factory you posted. looks really nice, I love it

I just built a tiny outpost while exploring lol

I accidentally went the wrong way

the coal deposit was east, I went west 💀

decided to make the most out of it anyways

[south sinew]

I tried that but after the 10th floor or something it becomes a real pain

[lethal scroll]

yeah for your gigantic structures I dont think it's a good fit, but they look cool in and of themselves

the only way I'd change them would be to encase the outside

but not just make it a giant block

I actually really like how the platform size varies

gives it more character

[south sinew]

I kinda wanted a big black slab

but not having coated concrete walls was super sadge

[lethal scroll]

I do mean a big black slab, but with like, extrusions

[south sinew]

I was hoping for something just plain cuboid

[cursive totem]

monolith style

i love the idea

cant you do it with foundations instead

coated black concrete foundations but as walls

[rustic hare]

yess

[south sinew]

oh you mean just stacking 4m foundations on the exterior?

maybe

I'm probably not going to try though, too lazy kek

[cursive totem]

yeah - i mean, who cares how thick the wall is really. use 4m foundations as "lego blocks" to build everything

[versed mesa]

Imagine if we could build our own types of machines and Nodes and resources ect

Those would be a challenge and half lol

Tbh I dont know what to go for when building there could be a day where magically i want to try something and thats the times I like lol

[unkempt blade]

the answer is pretty much always going to be a skatepark for factory carts when you can't decide

[fierce glen]

how many water extractors i need for like 20 coal powers

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[versed mesa]

10 to 12 should be enough

[fierce glen]

nah i need 8

[unkempt blade]

just FYI you can open quicksearch (N I think) and type math stuff into it

[versed mesa]

Then why ask

[fierce glen]

i asked before calculating

[versed mesa]

If you already know lol

[versed mesa]

Good

@fierce glen maybe you should of calculated before asking lmfao

[fierce glen]

thats hard

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[cursive totem]

should of 💀

[fierce glen]

i dont even know if my calculation are right

but coal need 45 water a extractor produces 120

[cursive totem]

its 3:8

[fierce glen]

ye

[cursive totem]

3 extractors for 8 plants

[fierce glen]

#screenshots

[sterile zealot]

can manifold also work for smelters?

[fierce glen]

yes

yo guys how i make coal join the coal plants if closest coal node is 800 meters away

[reef basin]

build at water, ship coal to water, bring power to base

[leaden turret]

make like a pair of loose-fitting pants and use a belt

[unkempt blade]

build a truck station at each end and use tractors to move the coal and also be fueled by coal

[fierce glen]

but what if i make a truck station and coal fro mtruck stations goes into a storage and that storage goes into alot of splitters and those splitters goes in coal plants

[versed mesa]

Ive always wondered how auto works with vehicles lol

[fierce glen]

i managed to learn abt it

[unkempt blade]

I don't see the problem, that's just logistics

[versed mesa]

Nice

[blissful nymph]

mow do i mod the game?

[fierce glen]

@versed mesa you press record where you start you drive where you want it to go the ndrive the path back

[versed mesa]

Very easy download Satisfactory mod manager

[unkempt blade]

there's a link in #welcome

[versed mesa]

Really cool

[lethal scroll]

kinda annoyed that there's no 45 degree ramps tbh

not even with the ramp stairs

the only way to get 45 up is via walkway stairs

but they only come as 1 wide

so if you wanna do a 45 degree staircase, 2+ wide, you'll always have railings inbetween

[unkempt blade]

limited choices help people be more creative with the remaining choices 🙂

[lethal scroll]

I get that that's the minecraft vertical slab argument but I just want something to fill up the space underneath a staircase

[versed mesa]

Am not creative it hard to try tobe lol

[lethal scroll]

we got staircase ramps, we got HALFPIPE RAMPS, but no 45 degree ones

no 45 degree halframp

[unkempt blade]

just need more practice 😄

[versed mesa]

True

[fierce glen]

#screenshots

[limpid cairn]

hey man, that’s not your line😔

[unkempt blade]

I'm a well rounded vehicle enjoyer, I just think factory carts are peak vehicle usage 😄

[leaden turret]

is more angular than well-rounded

[unkempt blade]

Also if that guy was just setting up coal the odds of actually have foundations run between the two points is probably low. Factory carts don't love dirt haha

[leaden turret]

is fine if you drive backwards

[sterile zealot]

so from 180 iron per minute how much smart plating can i get?

[dense violet]

do some math or use a tool https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[shrewd gyro]

well 120 can get you 5, so 180 should get you 7

[dense violet]

your math isn't suuuuper accurate

probably also depends on the intermediary recipes they're using

[shrewd gyro]

7.742 min on default recipies

[sterile zealot]

Bolted Iron Plate, Cast Screw are the only ones

[shrewd gyro]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=zQyqukL5NXcNhLJAUKFs

[dense violet]

use the planner with those recipes then 🙂

[dense violet]

that plan linked doesn't use the same recipes as you said you're using

[dense violet]

let them learn how to use the tool themselves. They'll need it in the long run

[sterile zealot]

saw it thanks ❤️

[fierce glen]

should i make 20 power storage in a power farm

[dense violet]

if you keep it disconnected from the main grid you can use it to restart a crashed system?

although if you use priority power switches you can always avoid that these days

[reef basin]

• there's no farming in Satisfactory
• generally I'd recommend building more power over building power storages

[dense violet]

yeah I'm always curious why people call factories 'farms' , is that from something I'm too old to know?

are they 'doing a fortnite' ? 😛

[rapid wren]

is it possible to limit storage slots to not be used, like in factorio? yet*

[sterile zealot]

I have 6 power shards there a way I can add them to the tool to see or i do it manually?

[dense violet]

the tool tells you what % you need

if it says 2.5 machines? that's just another of saying 250% clocking overall. Split however you like

1.7 machines? 170% ect ect

[sterile zealot]

kk ty

[dense violet]

though honestly early on I'd save them for miners. All adding power shards to other machines does is save space

which you have infinite of

while adding them to miners will actually give you more resources to play with

[fierce glen]

yo guys how many coal power stuff can i power with 40 water extractors

[dense violet]

do the math.

how much water are you making divided by how much 1 coal gen uses

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

some beginner friendly coal layouts on that link

[fierce glen]

106

coal powers

[dense violet]

coal will be more your issue

[fierce glen]

i got 4 nodes

ill fill industrial storages

[dense violet]

yeah, better off calculating how many coal gens you can have with what coal you can mine

water is basically infinite

[dense violet]

you really don't want to rely on buffered coal. It'll run out and possibly crash your system

[fierce glen]

is over 4k vw worth it when im at phase 2?

[shy mulch]

that's unnecessary

1k will be enough to do you until you get fuel power

you really don't need to scale coal power up much at all

[dense violet]

4000mw is fine.
it's pretty normal to have 48-64 coal gens before doing fuel power

it's simple and later on you get more oil efficient fuel recipes

[shy mulch]

why so many?

that's like half the power I was using when I completed phase 5

imo 8 coal gens is plenty

[dense violet]

it can get you to tier 7 very easily and is super easy to set up early on

and, as I said, later on you get more oil efficient recipes, so you can just set up a diluted fuel station later on

one spot with 4 coal nodes ( like the starter areas) will do that coal power easily

[sterile zealot]

there a way i can stack constructors vertically?

[dense violet]

foundations

[hard ivy]

Nudge

[hard ivy]

I had 32 coal gens and 2 augmenters before I had fuel set up

[shy mulch]

you can build as big as you like, it's totally fine, I'm just saying it's not necessary

[candid ingot]

why does satisfactory modeler shit itself when I try to plug in the uranium waste to the nonfissile uranium and the plutonium pellet? Does anyone know how much needs to go into both machienes if I'm making 1050 waste/minute?

[shy mulch]

the wiki tells you all the values of recipes

[candid ingot]

oh

[hard ivy]

It was necessary for me. Could've maybe cut 6 gens before I had to cut actual production

Could've done that ofc but I didn't feel like I'm overproducing anything

[shy mulch]

I guess everyone has their own view on what counts as "overproducing"

1/min of every space elevator part is fine for completing the phases

[hexed phoenix]

At least 10/min - else its just settling for lesser good :D

[shy mulch]

1/min = okay
10/min = okayer
100/min = okayest

[hexed phoenix]

[hard ivy]

Tbf the bigger you build the more resources for building you need the bigger you have to build. It's a self fulfilling prophecy

[hexed phoenix]

100/min BWD - No sloop is somewhat my wet dream :D

[shy mulch]

Is that even possible 😄

I'm doing 25/min with sloops and it broke my brain

[hard ivy]

Max without sloops is just over 73

[hexed phoenix]

yea can see according to SFTools its 73.019 /min

Utilizing pretty much 100% of all map resources, but 80% of Limestone and 0% Uranium

[hard ivy]

I wonder how much you can make while still powering the whole thing

Probably like 70 XD

[hexed phoenix]

Biomass Burners is still a thing 😁

Only need to make 1TW

[bronze oriole]

just build 10k energy storages and fill them while building the factory and then hope it was enough =)

[hard ivy]

Yeah, it'll be enough. For about 1-1.5h

[hexed phoenix]

Is Biomass Burner boosted by that Alien Power thingy?

[shy mulch]

yes

[hexed phoenix]

Not sure if slooping more power is allowed :P but its an option

[unique kernel]

Mornin folks

[unique kernel]

Shoot if it was ide be sloopin every generator

[hard ivy]

That's what augmenters are for, no?

[unique kernel]

No i mean like how you sloop machines sloop the generators

So that way you get twice the power per generator

So instead of 2500 from a nuclear reactor you'll get 5000 just from the base clockspeed

[sterile zealot]

how tf should i split this? #screenshots message

[jagged skiff]

With a manifold

[undone shore]

So what exactly are the advantages of using vehicles instead of big long belts?

[plain osprey]

cleaner look

[unkempt blade]

they bring joy to everyone around them

[plain osprey]

plus if ur using trains they look better

[hexed phoenix]

Generally creates less lag in later game - as the game dont worry about the millions of parts on belts :P

[undone shore]

now that's a compelling argument

[unkempt blade]

yeah I know, joy is the best reason to play games

[plain osprey]

you should change your name to "cyber wagon < Mk 6 conveyors"

[hexed phoenix]

Would say, my comment depends on selection of vehicles..

Not sure its visual appealling to transport 24000 Iron Ingot / Min with Factory Carts, across the map

[unkempt blade]

If anything it's more appealing! Carts are like little vehicular oompa loompas that bring happiness to any factory they get included in

[hexed phoenix]

Would need to ask for my character to be renamed to Gru

[cosmic adder]

how do ppl manage to make teady factories? Its hard

[unkempt blade]

practice 😄

[zenith pecan]

I've had slightly long belts and not crashed.

[cosmic adder]

damn, yeeah, 18h in game wont help huh

oh wait, i did not know my game was at ultra, did game pick graphics?

[unkempt blade]

Yeah you're probably comparing yourself against people with a significant amount of time spent in this game. It's not super uncommon for people on this discord to have saves with a few hundred hours on them

[cosmic adder]

i see

[unkempt blade]

if the factory runs it's a good factory and you can work on making it look better as your figure stuff out, totally normal learning curve

[zenith pecan]

Or thousands of hours.

[cosmic adder]

yeah, it works i suppose

[grim ermine]

If it is less than one of your max belts manifold it.
If it is more than one of your max belts then you cry

[unkempt blade]

The other thing I'd add is it actually gets easier to make it look nice as you unlock stuff. The hoverpack + some of the awesome shop options make a huge difference

[zenith pecan]

If it's more, just injection manifold it.

[grim ermine]

Can Bit of a pain sometimes

[zenith pecan]

Oh I know, I hate injection manifolds but sometimes needs must.

[grim ermine]

I just fiddle with overclock/underclock until its nice numbers that I can work with

[zenith pecan]

I've done that as well, sometimes you'll get the infamous x.6666 clocks that will never ever work causing a very slow backup or stall, I dislike yellow lights too, so I find myself changing recipes on top to enforce proper numbers.

[unkempt blade]

yeah better to round up and have a tiny little bit of downtime for that machine

[grim ermine]

I wish you could fine tune the multiplication of the somersloop like you can for over clocking

[plain osprey]

too many sliders lol

[grim ermine]

Its only two. And if it only appeared when a somersloop is in the machine it wouldn't be that bad

[plain osprey]

ik i am joking

[zenith pecan]

My quartz facility in the north was stubborn with its numbers, I eventually fixed it with default screws of all things.

[unkempt blade]

truly screws make everything better

[zenith pecan]

Made the numbers whole, no decimals, no yellow lights, just perfect flow.

What gets me, is people will exclude screws at all costs instead of placing their construction in-line with the machines that use them, instead trying to squash 900 screws down one 780 belt and moaning that the lights are yellow 😱

[plain osprey]

havent reached that stage yet but is it worth it making a power shard factory?

[unkempt blade]

yeah especially with blueprints the "downside" of a different build pattern is pretty nonexistent

[zenith pecan]

I don't see why not, you can overclock everything, overclock your radio even and amazing factories like this one #satisfactory-experimental message

[unkempt blade]

I thought it was worth it in my 1.0 save. You don't need a crazy high production rate to have more than you'll need

[grim ermine]

YES

[unkempt blade]

overclocking is nice once you're scaling everything up and have more power than you know what to do with

[plain osprey]

👍

[grim ermine]

Surely you can do this without power shards?

[zenith pecan]

Can't overclock useless follies without shards 😛

[cosmic adder]

how does shop work? I give smth for tickets?

[grim ermine]

You put random items it and get points. The amount of points per coupon exponentially increases

[cosmic adder]

gocha

[plain osprey]

put stuff in awesome sink =ticket, use shop to buystuff for ticket

[unkempt blade]

It's a little more than 5k shards if you sloop all the slugs. So 1300~ machines fully overclocked before you need manufactured shards if you actually collect all the slugs. Depends how big your builds are 🤷

[grim ermine]

I meant the one he linked

[zenith pecan]

If you make spare shards, you have access to ionised fuel.

[grim ermine]

Ohh ok

[zenith pecan]

With the right setup (I learned a bit late, what a shock) it can be rather efficient as a power station.

[unkempt blade]

The biggest single build I did in 1.0 was #screenshots message and it would have been significantly bigger without shards. Possible yes, but a lot more work

[tranquil maple]

Are u saying that u make ionized fule bofore synthetic shards?

[zenith pecan]

My power station would have been 2.4x the size without shards, and it is immense as is.

[zenith pecan]

Nope, I'm saying I learned about the efficient approach to ionised fuel after I built a colossal rocket fuel power station that pushes more power than quite possibly several large saves combined.

[lethal scroll]

eyyy just about finished with my bridge now

im... still not at the coal stage lol

I'm making my way there tho

sadly... im barely halfway there now

[compact aspen]

I took a break from the game. Came back to my 150+ hour save. I'm stuck on phase 4 and going back to fix up things. I was dumb and hand crafted a lot of my way through. I DON'T EVEN HAVE REINFORCED METAL PLATES AUTOMATED???? WHAT!? Past me is stupid. I feel like I need to tear down EVERYTHING and start over. I skipped automating so many important things.

[lethal scroll]

2 options:
if you're attached to your save: just start a new save file and start from scratch
if you don't care: scrap EVERYTHING and start from scratch... but with saved progress

but the starting from scratch part is consistent. I don't reccomend revisiting old saves with setups you're no longer familliar with

[grim ermine]

Im planning to make 1200 oil into rocket fuel using diluted fuel and nitro rocket fuel recipes. When I unlock blenders

[zenith pecan]

One issue with building my power supply to such riddiculous size, I doubt I'll ever get close to using its max capacity.

[grim ermine]

I planned out most of what I want to build an i think I'll need ~400GW

[lethal scroll]

btw, I wanna post screenshots of the map, that's allowed right? it's from the site though

[grim ermine]

Think so

[zenith pecan]

My power station would probably run all of your plans along side mine, and have spare capacity left over 🤣

[grim ermine]

How much you making... and how LOL

[zenith pecan]

1.1Tw

[grim ermine]

Oh my

Nuclear?

[zenith pecan]

Nope, just an insanely sized rocket fuel facility #satisfactory-experimental message

[grim ermine]

How much crude oil did you use?

[zenith pecan]

From that area, well, all of it, I had to import some serious nitrogen and sulphur.

[grim ermine]

How did you transport the nitrogen?

[zenith pecan]

The support tower at the back has a few power augmentors that made it more riddiculous.

[reef basin]

don't merge it in the first place, then you don't need to split it

[zenith pecan]

Pipes, and in tunnels.

[plain osprey]

#screenshots message tried moeling a powe shard factry, not even done 😭

[grim ermine]

Where did you build it?

Which biome

[zenith pecan]

Blue crater.

[cosmic adder]

so guys, i did tier 4 and i cannot do 5? What do i do?

[plain osprey]

satisfactory modeler

[cosmic adder]

its locked..

all tier 4 done

[plain osprey]

did u do the space elevator?

[cosmic adder]

second thing is still going on

[grim ermine]

I thought you meant you didnt understand how to do it LOL

Did you launch the space elevator and its still locked?

[cosmic adder]

i still havent done second task in elevetor

[plain osprey]

well thats the problem

[cosmic adder]

i gotta finish it?

[plain osprey]

yes

[grim ermine]

You have to do phase 2 of the space elevator before you can do past tier 5

[cosmic adder]

alright..

gocha, kinda an anoyin lol. im still quite far

[grim ermine]

The things in tier 5 require stuff that phase 2 parts use so if you dont have them there would be no point in having tier 5

[cosmic adder]

i have em, just gettin 1k is hard

and slow

[grim ermine]

Ok

You could somersloop some machines?

That'd speed it up

[plain osprey]

gotta reserch it in the MAM first tho

[grim ermine]

Yeah its not to hard

[cosmic adder]

somersloop?

[zenith pecan]

shaped thing

[cosmic adder]

hmm

[zenith pecan]

!wikisearch somersloop

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=somersloop

[cosmic adder]

never seen em tbh

[plain osprey]

how long u had the game for?

[cosmic adder]

since last week

[plain osprey]

alr

[cosmic adder]

lot of snails but never red things

[plain osprey]

k

there are also mercer spheres

[cosmic adder]

YES I HAVE ONE

[plain osprey]

cool

[cosmic adder]

woops caps

[plain osprey]

they can be used in the MAM

to get cloud storage

[cosmic adder]

yes, i researched these snails and that glowing ball

[plain osprey]

nice

[true mulch]

@worldly pelican still no embed

[cosmic adder]

ig im on da hunt

[plain osprey]

you can use a object scanner if u have it

[worldly pelican]

🤬

[cosmic adder]

well i never had red stuff so..

[plain osprey]

k

[cosmic adder]

wait, no i think i found once in cave

i never found same..ehh

whats the differnce between overclock and production amplifier

[plain osprey]

overcock uses more stuff per min and more power

[cosmic adder]

i see

[plain osprey]

and amplifier ouputs more stuff (up to 2x) with same usage per min

[unkempt blade]

Overclock is product speed with the same ingredient cost per item output. Amplifier increases the output without increasing the original ingredient cost

[cosmic adder]

ohh!

So now i need to find sam first

[worldly pelican]

The thing is: it does embed normally. even in this channel: https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280/1424555573545795726
Just sometimes the embed is missing. So for me this looks more like an issue on Discord side:

[plain osprey]

!wikisearch sam

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sam

[zenith pecan]

I did wonder what happened when I did the wikisearch earlier.

[plain osprey]

embed 🔥

[zenith pecan]

Maybe it just doesn't want to embed sloops.

[plain osprey]

!wikisearch somersloop

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=somersloop

[plain osprey]

yh, looks like that

[zenith pecan]

Yup, that's what I got 🤣

[hard mantle]

WAIT WHAT? all the starting locations are on one map?

[plain osprey]

yes

[zenith pecan]

Yes.

[reef basin]

everything is on one map

[hard mantle]

i did not know that

the chainsaw is so helpful i have like 1300 solid biofuel now

[plain osprey]

that may be a little too much

[hard mantle]

eh whatever

oh it wasnt 1300 its 1103

[shy mulch]

Why would it be too much?
You don't wanna know how much I have. It's really not that hard to get massive amounts

1300 won't last long if you have a decent sized array of burners

[plain osprey]

noone uses that much

[shy mulch]

I do

[plain osprey]

😭

[shy mulch]

I use 4800 per hour atm

[plain osprey]

do you not use coal burners?

[shy mulch]

Not in this save

[zenith pecan]

I usually feed the leftovers into liquid biofuel production later on for the jetpack.

[plain osprey]

that is a crime against humanity

[hard mantle]

well im like just starting i only have 2 miners down right now creating plates rods and then screws and now reinforced plates when i get the assembler

[shy mulch]

I'm doing a biomass-only run

[unique kernel]

Wait its all 1 map? Always has been

[shy mulch]

It's fun and adds a challenge of remembering to keep your storages topped up with biomass

[plain osprey]

until you wipe the whole map of its biomass

[unique kernel]

Till you run outta leaves and wood

[shy mulch]

You guys underestimate how long that would take. I'll complete the space elevator long before I run out of stuff to burn

[hard mantle]

oh jeez this is gonna be hard how do i make a factory thats like, symetrical and not just miners on nodes going into smelters and constructers

[plain osprey]

rememmber the more you use the more burners you need = more biomass burning

[unique kernel]

Actually you could "farm" biomass

[shy mulch]

I'm producing 560/min solid biomass atm and no sign of running out any time soon

[unique kernel]

Wait till oil power then you can use water to stretch it out

[plain osprey]

the numbers dont add up

mb i'm dumb

[shy mulch]

I have fuel gens for liquid biofuel but I only use them a bit because it turned out to be a hassle clocking them down to my current usage, burners do it automatically

[unique kernel]

No as in refine it then package it for the burners

[zenith pecan]

I wouldn't use liquid biofuel in fuel gens for anything other than a meme due to its semi automated nature.

[shy mulch]

Less efficient though

[unique kernel]

Not if you OC the burners max burn rate 10pm

[shy mulch]

That makes 0 difference to efficiency

[unique kernel]

Heres the thing if you make more and store it in bins it'll last much longer and you get more

Its not about efficiency its about longevity the more you have the longer you can use it for cuz heres the thing you'll eventually run out of biomass so stretch it out so you dont have to worry bout it especially in the late game you do realize it'll take like 10 fully OC biomass gens to power 1 single particle accelerator

Actually more than that

[shy mulch]

You assume I'll be running stuff at 100%

[unique kernel]

Now thats just torture

[shy mulch]

Not torture, just more challenging. That's the whole point of this playthrough. I've already done everything the 'normal' way

[unique kernel]

There's normal then theres "lgio normal"

[shy mulch]

This is nowhere near lgio levels of insanity. I'm just a little bit unhinged

He is orders of magnitude more wild

And amazing

[unique kernel]

He says as he covers world in biogens

[shy mulch]

It's more an exercise in making factories that are small and not wasteful and do the absolute bare minimum to progress. Any wastefulness is punished in the form of me having to collect more biomass

[unique kernel]

You wanna know what insanity is try a max production of 7GW with a max consumption of 21GW im 1 sink away from a global shutdown

My iron factory alone takes i wanna say 15GW

Wait i think thats wrong is GW the one with 3 or 6 0's? Cuz I wanna say that my grids max consumption is 20,000,000MW while the production last I checked was about 7,000

[reef basin]

GW to MW is the same as GB to MB

and somehow I doubt that your max consumption is 20 TW

[zenith pecan]

Oh man if that consumption is possible then even my power station wouldn't work.

[unique kernel]

Well my iron plant has I thing 10 fully oc refinerys for iron feeding into 60 constructors then some rods are feeding 20 constructors and from that ive got 8 assemblers making RIP, Rotors, and modular frames EACH! thats just iron ive got a full on steel mill electronics production and a copper factory

[reef basin]

that's like a few GW at most

not a TW

given that the map can only produce a few TW of power at most

[unique kernel]

The plastic is more tame just because its a barebones system

[true mulch]

Image or didn't happen

[unique kernel]

Cant pc at home im not ill send it when I get home

[true mulch]

Sure, no rush

[red sun]

aw :( shame about crossplay but it's understandable

[cosmic adder]

i was looking for NAS for 30 mins and nothing!!

[red sun]

on the plus side though i finally got my vinyl

[unique kernel]

Can you imagine a switch 2 person loading a 100% utilization PC map?

[true mulch]

It's not coming out on the switch

[zenith pecan]

It would melt into slag.

[unique kernel]

Both? 1 and 2 got the boot?

[plain osprey]

lies

[true mulch]

PS5 and Xbox Series only

[red sun]

i feel like the switch is for a slightly different type of game tbh. it's nowhere near as powerful as a full console

[unique kernel]

You ant wrong I can see my switch now fan spin so fast it'll generate thrust

[true mulch]

Lol, I still think this game plays poorly on a controller and isn't suitable for console overall

Precise, UI heavy building game, yuck

[unique kernel]

Whew good thing I got a pc then with a steam deck on the way cuz yea

[plain osprey]

consoles can have a keyboard too yk

[red sun]

i can't comment on that, i've never played with one. i honestly think all games play poorly on controller, but that's cause i hate controllers in general

that's a me thing though

[true mulch]

They won't make a console port with the expectation that people will play with KB+M

[unique kernel]

Not the mobile ones like steam deck or the switch (unless its docked)

[zenith pecan]

How much ram does a Ps5 or a Series X even have?

[plain osprey]

fair ig

[leaden turret]

we are however working on it for the future

[unique kernel]

Me a console gamer: you underestimate my power of adaptation

[true mulch]

Not the majority of people anyway

I'm not saying people won't, once possible

[red sun]

they both have 16gb but i think it's not exactly a 1:1 comparison with a pc

i would think they'd use the ram slightly differently

[true mulch]

The RAM probably isn't the deal breaker

[unique kernel]

So basically my pc is a glorified console

[zenith pecan]

Oh god, I would have issues playing within those constraints, before Ue5, my old save needed like 47gb to even load.

[red sun]

a pc is much more than just its ram

[spice patio]

For both RAM and VRAM, but RAM part never includes same stuff as the VRAM, so nothing takes double memory.

[plain osprey]

my pc is worse then a console

[leaden turret]

I'm hoping it doesn't come out on the switch because I'd hate to see CSS condoning Nintendo's "we reserve the right to brick your console" policy

[spice patio]

But XBox Series S only has 8+2GB of GDDR6.

[true mulch]

They're both computers. The apple watch is also a computer with a CPU and memory, so is a vape or a car

[spice patio]

Series X has 10+6 GB.

[unique kernel]

Im waiting for the day that they make GPUs with expandable ram that can use laptop ram imagen a 5060 with like 64GB of VRAM

[leaden turret]

apple watch is wrist-mounted expensive potato

[spice patio]

Different bus widths for the two parts.

[true mulch]

I own zero Apple devices, but it's a recognizable example

[spice patio]

With the 2GB on Series S being behind just 32bit bus.

[unique kernel]

So what's this is hear that the map can only generate a few TW of power seems like rookie numbers for someone who has bins of sloops for doubling fuel rod production muahahah

Just imagine thousands and thousands of fully OC nuclear reactors draining the entire ocean of water just to power there production system

[plain osprey]

is it eco friendly?

🔥

[unique kernel]

Since when does ficit care bout the planet our sole purpose is to explote

[plain osprey]

idk

[simple flame]

somebody didnt read the briefing when they signed for the job

[unique kernel]

Either way its time to start exploiting everything

[unique kernel]

Ikr

If my math is mathing then 50.4 uranium rods becomes 100.8 with sloops so yea thats alotta powa

[plain osprey]

[zenith pecan]

Sloop the up stream stuff to make more material going into the manufacturers and you get to double again (assuming you SCIMmed the sloops)

[unique kernel]

You mean I can quadruple all the uranium stuff?

[zenith pecan]

Sloop the cell production for double those, then sloop the fuel manufacturers 😄

[unique kernel]

Oh ho ho ho my inner Mr. Burns is seeing a grand opportunity

[zenith pecan]

Sloop the PU cells then the rods too if you want more power, or the coupons from sink.

[unique kernel]

Ill take more power for 500 alex

[zenith pecan]

Might be able to sloop the non-fissile uranium too.

[unique kernel]

All im hearing is MORE MORE MOOOORE!!!

Just sloop EVERYTHING!!!

[lime ermine]

Ok alterra calm down, don't tax me because I used your uranium to help you 🤣

[real shale]

Did someone say....

[green fiber]

Power grid:
📉 📉 📉

[real shale]

POWER?

[unique kernel]

Yes this is Dr. Emmit Brown inventor of the time traveling delorian

[real shale]

No it's not

[hard mantle]

is there a way to go freecam?

[plain osprey]

p then r

[hard mantle]

i want to show off my first like actual factory

[hard mantle]

thank youu

i used a method called like something lane i think manifold

[plain osprey]

@hard mantle #screenshots message are you sure ur conveyers can carry the amount of iron produced?

[hard mantle]

wdym

[plain osprey]

conveyors have a max amount of items the can carry

[sage quail]

graystillplays would disagree 😂

[hard mantle]

i think its cause i powered the miners before all the other stuff

to make sure it would like be completely equal i guess?

[plain osprey]

if ur using mk.1 thats 60 per min meaning if something needs 100 per min it wont work fully

[hard mantle]

the smelters and stuff needs 30 per minute if thats what you mean

[plain osprey]

no i mean if those 3 miners are producing lets say 120 per min your conveyers will onlly carry 60 per min if ur using mk.1

[hard mantle]

how much do mk 2 conveyers carry

[plain osprey]

120 per min

[green fiber]

double the amount of mk 1 conveyors* (sorry i misread)

[hard mantle]

each individual miner is making 120 per minute

[plain osprey]

yh thats bad coz the last smeler will work the least

[hard mantle]

wait what?

[plain osprey]

you use conveyers mk1 or mk2 ?

[hard mantle]

mk 1

[plain osprey]

well thats like only producing 60 per min coz the conveyer cant carry more then 60 per min

[hard mantle]

well then what about the first smelter

[plain osprey]

the first gets the most and the last gets the least

coz the conveyers split evenly

[hard mantle]

if they split evenly how would it get the least

wouldnt they all get the same?

[plain osprey]

hold on lemme edit that pic its the best way to explain

[sage quail]

today I'm cooking macbook pro m3 pro flambee, gonna run satisfactory on it 😄

(using Parallels)

[hard mantle]

so i need to use mk 2 conveyers to make it so each machine gets 30 iron per minute? @plain osprey

[elfin cradle]

if i oc the crude oil nodes and wells in the islands and occ the nitrogen gas node as well, i will need approx 1200 fuel generators to usitilize all of the rocket fuel 💀
any suggestions / tips before i begin?

[polar leaf]

download someone's huge ass save online and try to run it for the funzies

like 2000 hours save

[elfin cradle]

ngl, this would be my first mega build

[polar leaf]

I did exactly that

4k rocket fuel p/m which could turn into 240GW without augmentors

[plain osprey]

not really, to use manifolds your conveyors have to be able to carry more or the exact same number of iron needed

[hard mantle]

so would mk 2 conveyers work or i need to start this all over

[polar leaf]

@elfin cradle https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=U4OZKzAw9jONDabrMhwf here's the tools for it

[elfin cradle]

nicee can you share your build pics and the problems that you encountered?

[plain osprey]

the whole setup needs 150 iron per min (30x5) mk.2 can carry 120 per min

[polar leaf]

you're building it in the blue crater?

[hard mantle]

so would it be possible to work optimally if i remove one row?

[plain osprey]

nah you dont need to remove anthing if my math is correct i think, hold on gimme a min

[elfin cradle]

mostly

[polar leaf]

blue crater has everything needed then

only problem is that there is only 1500 nitrogen p/m and you need 1600

but I got around that it isn't a huge deal

[elfin cradle]

i've oced it, i have 2100 nitrogen/min

[proven trellis]

couldnt you just overclock it

[polar leaf]

1500 p/m is all of them fully overclocked

[proven trellis]

oh

[polar leaf]

without overclocking I'd be 600

[plain osprey]

@hard mantle can u take a photo directly above pls

[hard mantle]

yes

[plain osprey]

better to work with

[elfin cradle]

which area is blue crater exactly?, im building near the crude oil source only

ohh that lower area of the map, no no

i was talking about the one near the red jungle

[zenith pecan]

That oil needs to be tought some manners!

[elfin cradle]

it has 2700/min crude oil and 2100/min nitrogren, fully oced

my bad bro xD

[sage quail]

nevermind, parallels didn't work, had to force directx11 and everything was flashy and crap, trying with GPTK and Heroic 🙂

[polar leaf]

#screenshots message

[polar leaf]

the west side of the map?

that's not a bad area either

but sulfur is a bit far

[elfin cradle]

yeah 2 nodes, that need to be fully oced as well

[zenith pecan]

Distance is one reason I have such materials moved through the logistics tunnel network.

[polar leaf]

if you fully overclock with mk3 miners those 2 nodes you could make a lot of rocket fuel

but not enough to use all oil nor nitrogen

but already a lot

I'd guess maybe around 260gw from that sulfur?

[hard mantle]

good to know so i just need to remove the manifold and create the setup you drew with the lines? tojere

[plain osprey]

yes

[elfin cradle]

there is a pure node and a normal node, so ideally it's 1800/min

but since i have unlocked only mk5 belts it's 780+ 600, so 1360/min of sulfur

[plain osprey]

also i reccomend watching a tutorial on splitters they can be confusing sometimes

[polar leaf]

yeah I expected you'd only have mk5 belts

[elfin cradle]

i req 1.2k sulfur so it's more than enough

[elfin cradle]

producing 5.2k rocket fuel

[elfin cradle]

actually in my case, the limiting factor is ntrogen gas not sulfur xD, but yeah this is still a lot

i dunno how tf i would build 1.2k fuel gens along with all of this but yeah

[polar leaf]

I did a little cheating to do that...

it isn't actually cheating but still

I used a blueprint that compacted a lot of fuel generators together to save me space

I still needed to get all the materials and power shards ( over a thousand ) but it was worth it

[dire pelican]

I havent played for months and
i dont rlly want to fix my whole gigantic base again because multiple factories has incorrect or not efficient calculation and i dont rlly wanna destroy it cuz yk memories n shit

Its in grassfields, im in phase 4, should i just keep everything as is and just make a mroe efficient base for every material at another biome using the resources from that base (like dune desert)?

[elfin cradle]

damm, ohh ocing all of it is smart

[polar leaf]

this is it if you want it

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/details/id/8707/name/Ultracompact+Generator+Block+for+600%2Fmin+Rocket+Fuel+(36GW)

[elfin cradle]

yeah it would make sense to oc all the gens honestly, else the build would be too huge

[polar leaf]

I built 6 of those blueprints together

[polar leaf]

too huge? bro your pc would barely stay alive

[zenith pecan]

Overclocking fuel generators to 240% rounds their rocket fuel usage to 10.

[elfin cradle]

i have like 1.5k power shards rn

[polar leaf]

whenever I look at those 360 generators clamped in a room my fps dies

[elfin cradle]

lmao, what are your specs btw?

[polar leaf]

imagine if it were 1000

[polar leaf]

it's not that good tbh it's a r3 3200g and a rx 580

but it plays mostly anything I want

I get solid 70 fps with high-ultra settings when not in heavy load in satisfactory

[elfin cradle]

ohh, i'm on a laptop tho, not a proper pc, still it's a 3050 so hopefully....

[elfin cradle]

by this calc i need 520 fuel gens lmao

[sage quail]

IT RUNS

the mac is whirring like it's gonna die

[dire pelican]

mac?

r u on crossover?

[sage quail]

yes, with Heroic launcher (Wine), Satisfactory

[dire pelican]

ooooo

[sage quail]

crossover is just wine paid for with nice gui

[dire pelican]

i tried running it with crossover but it was so laggy (am on M1 mac tho)

[sage quail]

M3 Pro, it even runs on High preset

[dire pelican]

theres a way to extend the 14 day trial indefinitely
(i have like only found 1 vid with 1k views on the method so barely anybody knows)

[dire pelican]

ooooo niceee
i've just been playing it with nvidia geforcenow (cloud gaming)

[sage quail]

I get 60 fps

[sage quail]

#screenshots message

[plain osprey]

lucky

[sage quail]

luck has nothing to do with it, I have the m3 pro, costs a bloody fortune

[plain osprey]

ik

i dont even get half that tho 😭

[dire pelican]

how hot is the mac rn lol

[sage quail]

burning, could fucking cook eggs on it

now am gonna try it on my mac mini m4 (cause it has better active cooling)

[plain osprey]

lol

[sage quail]

maybe I won't have to buy it for the ps5 pro

since I already own it on epic

heroic is a third party epic games launcher (you gotta login with an epic account to download games)

[white dawn]

Storefronts don't "share" games like that; if you want to play it on PS5 you'll have to buy it from the PS5 shop

[sage quail]

I meant if it runs on mac, I won't need to buy it on PS5

and I can just play it on epic

I'll see if it gets 60 fps on my mac mini m4 😂

[reef basin]

gaming on mac 🤢

but also gaming on consoles 🤢

😄

[polar leaf]

greeny the hero is back 🙏

what would me a poor simple being be without Tools

🥺

[unkempt blade]

better at using spreadsheets probably 😆

[dire pelican]

more like having no choice cuz need mac for work

[sly oar]

anyone want to get on a vc and just talk while playing?

[sage quail]

okay, so it runs in 24 fps on mac mini m4 on medium

LMFAO pathetic

[plain osprey]

pathetic?

[reef basin]

you can always quit that job

(I did quit that one job where they forced me to use macs)

[plain osprey]

thats still better then me 😭

[sage quail]

I have a job where they gave me macs

unlike jobs where I am forced to use windows

I feel happy.

[reef basin]

any job that would force me to particular OS would be a job to quit (for me)

but macs especially

[clever stone]

Hey chat, hope we’re all good

I was wondering about those hypertube one way splitters because I don’t really see the point of them

I mean I think hypertubes function best as two way transports

[reef basin]

they are possible for both ways

[plain osprey]

hypertubes are the best for launching yourself

[clever stone]

This is also correct

[plain osprey]

[clever stone]

Though I haven’t gotten to that stage where I have far enough out factories yet

[reef basin]

you can pass them in any direction, it's just that you can only go to the side branch from one side

[clever stone]

I see I see

[fierce glen]

who is this egg shaped head guy

[plain osprey]

my pfp?

[clever stone]

My hypertube transports are structured so I have easy access to all of my factories from any entrance so it’s mostly just been the three way junction splitters

[fierce glen]

te emoji or wtb

[plain osprey]

idk

[sage quail]

anyway, I don't recommend running satisfactory on macs, it keeps cpu at over 90 C and it'll probably fuck the mac up

gonna wait for satisfactory for PS5

[plain osprey]

shhhh

[sage quail]

what?

[plain osprey]

my GPU averages 82-84 C when playing

[clever stone]

Macs are just terrible gaming computers to begin with

[fierce glen]

what do ya know about linux

[clever stone]

They’re amazing work computers but that’s about it

If you mean me, I know zilch

Nada, nothing

I just know it’s the third option

[timid kayak]

my about 60

[plain osprey]

crazy

[fierce glen]

what gpu

[plain osprey]

gtx 550TI 🔥

[fierce glen]

had worse

[plain osprey]

crazy

[fierce glen]

i had a 2012 pc

the components arent even on the store now

[umbral goblet]

vro that gtx is from 2010

[fierce glen]

vro that pc is older than 2012 cuz i couldnt afford it brand new

[umbral goblet]

congrats vro

[plain osprey]

released in 2011 btw

[fierce glen]

cuz i used to be broke as hell

like not even 1$

[umbral goblet]

i used to stir my tea with 4 gb ram stick tough times😭 🤞

[fierce glen]

no like wen my father died we didnt had any income so we couldnt afford nun

[umbral goblet]

dang i send my deepest condolonces

R.I.P

[fierce glen]

na cuz he wasnt like a good father or smth

[umbral goblet]

dang bro

[fierce glen]

he was always getting drunk beating my brother and get into alot of fights

[umbral goblet]

dang

[fierce glen]

how i make a efficient modular frame factory

[umbral goblet]

sad backstory vro🖐️

btw is anyone looking for a teammate im super bored and want to start a satifactory gameplay to reach atleast phase 4 dm me

[ebon marten]

try looking in the looking for group

[fierce glen]

who plays on 1.0 version

[umbral goblet]

what modular frame the default one?

[fierce glen]

yh

[shy mulch]

Shouldn't be able to play 1.0 now, it's 1.1?

[umbral goblet]

i had a good one like 5 per minute

[fierce glen]

i got a save from 1.0

[umbral goblet]

what phase are you?

[fierce glen]

i just play on it so

2

[shy mulch]

And? Load the save in 1.1
You don't need to start again each new release

[fierce glen]

i alr got a good rotor and iron rod plate andscrews farm

[umbral goblet]

lemme hop on n check

[reef basin]

SF has no farming we have factories

[fierce glen]

im different

[umbral goblet]

bros playing grow a factory😭

[fierce glen]

roblox joke in satisfactory is tuff

[umbral goblet]

ye vro

alr wait im checing

checking

[shy mulch]

Isn't roblox a kids game?

[umbral goblet]

idk

[umbral goblet]

want me to send you sat modlr blueprint or waht

[plain osprey]

not really more features are coming for those 18+

[fierce glen]

you can make good money out of it so

[umbral goblet]

its 2.5 per minute

[fierce glen]

i can make the mfaster

[shy mulch]

You play games for the purpose of making money? Have you tried a job? 😛

[ebon marten]

and you are saying this here why?

[umbral goblet]

then idk

[fierce glen]

i wanna do computer science since i know python and hardware

[shy mulch]

It seems irrelevant to bring roblox jokes here and expect people to get them, I think the average age here won't have played roblox

[umbral goblet]

yea sry

[sullen gull]

What do you "think" the average age is here?

[umbral goblet]

above 13?

[dire pelican]

technically true

[shy mulch]

I'm starting to question that assumption I'd made... 🙄

[lone marten]

Like, 30 or something?

[sullen gull]

Granted, there are a lot of "older" folks here that play for sure. But, I'm sure just as many, if not more, are not "of working age" 😏

[fierce glen]

im 17 and i work in computer science

[shy mulch]

I'd be keen to be more involved in a community only with people who are older. But I'll settle for this

[sullen gull]

That was to imply 15 and below

[fierce glen]

just wanted to flex that i do computer science

[dire pelican]

fair

[fierce glen]

sounds cool yk

[shy mulch]

One thing you learn in life is no matter what you have to flex, there's always someone who can flex more

[dire pelican]

doesnt mean u cant flex urself

[shy mulch]

I get moaned at for showing off my factories, can't win 😂

[sullen gull]

I "used to" do 'Computer Science' too. Till I decided I didn't want to compete with all the younger kids who grew up on the tech lol

[fierce glen]

only thing i consider over me is somene working in space stuff

like programming rockets

or war stuff

[sullen gull]

I program Robots ... is that a flex? 😏

[fierce glen]

or cyber secruty

[fierce glen]

like programing arduino?

[umbral goblet]

secruty😭

[shy mulch]

Anything is a flex if you're proud of it

[sullen gull]

Ummmm ... no

[fierce glen]

what you use to program ten

cuz for hardware ive been using arduino or esp32

[sullen gull]

A teach pendant 🤣

[fierce glen]

il shearch what that is

[umbral goblet]

bro why this chat went from hyper tube to who knows more about computer science

[sullen gull]

Look up FANUC, Abb, Kuka, Motoman ... there ya go

[sullen gull]

It bee like that sometimes.. What's up with hypertubes?

[fierce glen]

so is a mini calcualtor with commands and stuff

[umbral goblet]

someone talked about hypertube and that they are the best transport method

[sullen gull]

I mean, if they said hypertube 'cannon', I'd agree 🤣

[umbral goblet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255884479386620047/1267597812049383545/melon.gif

ayo gifs dont work im cooked

[sullen gull]

As busy as chat can get, it's probably best.

[fierce glen]

print = "Hello world!"
print("print")

hahahahahah

[lone marten]

IIRC all links are blocked to prevent spam

[fierce glen]

how i make resources go from palce to palce fast

[lone marten]

belt

[umbral goblet]

wow

[sullen gull]

Not all, but most.

[umbral goblet]

palce palce?'

[fierce glen]

what if theyre at opposite direction

[lone marten]

belts

[reef basin]

you build the belt in opposite direction

[umbral goblet]

train

[sullen gull]

delete and rebuild

Or make a new one

[fierce glen]

no like whole water suplly is on the right side coal generators and on the right side

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[lone marten]

Actually, trains don't have more throughput than belts, they're mostly an aesthetic choice IIRC

[fierce glen]

wait i thought abt pulling a pipe from the water supply to the coal part

[umbral goblet]

no

[sullen gull]

Throughput on trains can be quite lucrative

[umbral goblet]

Train has the highest throughput]

yes belt deliver constantly but trains deliver massive amount in less 5 minutes even if across the map

[lone marten]

I mean you could argue about belts coupling different factories together too tightly and trains creating a much looser coupling, but that's a little bit too nerdy for non-office hours

[lone marten]

That'd still average out

[sullen gull]

Trains can deliver "constantly" with the use of ISC's as buffers.

[umbral goblet]

idk i hate like a single belt delivering through the whole map

[umbral goblet]

whats isc?

[lone marten]

But eh, do whatever you please, it's mostly a theoretical discussion

trains are neat so I use them, I like watching them go :)

[sullen gull]

Sorry, Industrial Storage Container.

[umbral goblet]

they are also good transport

just hop on and drive

[lone marten]

Also it means one can see the factories as a set of loosely coupled microservices that don't have explicit knowledge about any other factory, it just "magically" imports/exports materials it needs/produces

Even though it's not that because you have to set up timetables :V

[sullen gull]

Or one just practices "Independency" and doesn't connect any of their factories 😏

[lone marten]

Build everything from scratch everywhere, smart! :^)

[umbral goblet]

i like the idea of connecting all the factories to a giga factory

i still didnt reacht that point thou

[reef basin]

no, belts have

[umbral goblet]

what belts

mark 6?

[reef basin]

you don't care about speed though, you care about per minute throughput

[umbral goblet]

yea

[reef basin]

any belts

[umbral goblet]

ok so which is going to be faster to transport 10 stack of concrete a mark 1 belt 60 items per minute or a train let say through the entire map

[reef basin]

again, that's irrelevant, as SF cares about per minute throughput, not speed of transferring X items

[sick lynx]

I just watched the Early Access Launch Trailer, and now I desperately want Justice - Genesis on my boombox D:

[umbral goblet]

thats literally throughput

[sick lynx]

Is there some way to play custom music on it? On of my favourite features of The Long Drive.

[umbral goblet]

x per time

[reef basin]

no, throughput is "how many items per minute are transported on average". Doesn't change with distance

[umbral goblet]

mods

[reef basin]

and throughput of a train is at best equal to one of a belt, since you still need the belt to feed the train platform

[sick lynx]

I saw an interview where a dev said they'd let modders deal with that, are you saying it exists?

[umbral goblet]

probably

[sick lynx]

bruh

Don't get my hopes up like that if you don't know.

[reef basin]

I don't think there is, it's a very gray area of owning music

like it's very much possible there's one where only you can hear the music

but I doubt there's a MP version

[umbral goblet]

anyone want to start a sf playthrough🖐️

[sick lynx]

Been playing less than a week and I'm already tired of the ambient music, love the boombox but I haven't found any GOOD tapes yet.

[reef basin]

and if it's only you who wants to listen, then just run a spotify on the background

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[sick lynx]

yeah but positional audio and gameplay integration

[umbral goblet]

bro the chat is dead nobody typing there

[reef basin]

but that's the place to ask

usually people don't want to play with randoms anyway

[umbral goblet]

yea ik but nobody i know plays sf

[reef basin]

then post in that channel and hope

[sick lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[umbral goblet]

i did

[reef basin]

then no reason to post here

[unique kernel]

Sounds like my brain the systems runnin but the chats dead

[sick lynx]

post on the subreddit? twitch chat? idk mang

[unique kernel]

Got a telegraph? could Morris out a message

[umbral goblet]

i will try sending morse code i think

[unique kernel]

Or if ya got a ham radio could do that too

[umbral goblet]

.- -. -.-- --- -. . / .-- .- -. - / - --- / .--. .-.. .- -.-- / ... ..-. / .--. .-.. ... / .. -- / -... --- .-. . -..

[sick lynx]

.-- .... .- - ... / ... ..-.

[umbral goblet]

... .- - .. ..-. .- -.-. - --- .-. -.-- / .- / --. .- -- .

[sick lynx]

--- ....

-. ---

[fleet rampart]

newgens...

[sick lynx]

- .... . / ...- .. -... . ... / .- .-. . / --- ..-. ..-.

[umbral goblet]

-.-- . .- / .- / ...- . .-. -.-- / ..-. ..- -. / --. .- -- .

[umbral goblet]

--. . - / --- ..- -

[sick lynx]

I'm old enough to date your Mom

[umbral goblet]

so tuff🤞

[fleet rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-17216903551271031476

when embed perms

[sick lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[fleet rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[clever stone]

Never

[unique kernel]

Didnt realize yall actually know morse code

[sick lynx]

nah we're using a site

[fleet rampart]

such thing as a translator

[sullen gull]

Google ftw 🙂

[sick lynx]

DuckDuckGo

[sullen gull]

whichever

[unique kernel]

Think your missing the "ose"

[sick lynx]

🤓 👆 actually I only use the ingame N search bar

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ Ask Jeeves

[sick lynx]

tfw you open the search bar instead of your map 🙄

boutta rebind that shi

[unique kernel]

Me who rarely uses the map: you lost bro?

[sick lynx]

I've been playing less than a week bro

The map isn't that convoluted so far though

[sullen gull]

Yes... all the time ... 😏

[sick lynx]

I don't really get lost but I'm always marking new discoveries for future-me

❗ OIL

I just made my first oil refineries last night, feels good

[unique kernel]

Lol same I dont really memorize locations I just roam untill I run outta jetpack fuel or I have a full pack and just dont wanna walk all the way back find the nearest cliff lift off burn thru fuel then test to see if theres fall damage

[sick lynx]

I just got the jetpack last night, love that thing

Full container of packaged fuel

[unique kernel]

Pro tip use Biofuel not the solid one the packaged liquid one

[sick lynx]

I have packaged fuel, is that not better than liquid biofuel?

haven't made liquid biofuel yet

[thin hemlock]

guys is this dope? #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Liquid Bio and another later game fuel are the two "best" The other fuels are "ok" but their burn time is very low compared to liquid bio

[sick lynx]

triggered

[placid stirrup]

Each fuel type has stats on burn time and vertical acceleration for the jetpack

LBF has slower burn time and lower vertical acceleration, meaning you can hover for much longer

[sick lynx]

Yeah I got a minor spoiler from the subreddit, I know about jet fuel

[unique kernel]

Hah definitely not liquid biofuel is in a WHOLE different category in terms of peak milage per bottle

[sullen gull]

Ionized you mean?

[sick lynx]

I just saw a meme of someone trying rocket fuel in their jetpack

I don't know or want to know the specifics thanks

Trying to blind firstplay, very difficult seven years after EA

[sullen gull]

Ahh. Rocket fuel is one of those "ok but not great" ones 😏

[sick lynx]

🤫

I'll try liquid bio then

[unique kernel]

Iirc i think it also lasts longer in vehicles

[sick lynx]

🤔 does liquid bio work in a fuel-powered generator? Better than normal fuel then?

[unique kernel]

No thats just memeage at that point

[placid stirrup]

You can check fuel consumption stats in said generator

[unique kernel]

Yea what he said

[sick lynx]

it's a little weird that the chainsaw only accepts solid biofuel, maybe there's a chainsaw upgrade?

I shouldn't ask though

[unique kernel]

I wish

[sullen gull]

It's bascially the same compared with regular fuel

[placid stirrup]

When

[reef basin]

why do people keep using dots for morse code 🤔

[unique kernel]

Mosbe ITS THE LAW!!!.exe

[sullen gull]

... As opposed to?

[polar leaf]

idk but ...---...

I think that is SOS

[reef basin]

-|····|··|···||-···|·|-|-|·|·-·

[polar leaf]

maybe I wrote OSO

idk I'm stupid

[reef basin]

as opposed to dots that are actually aligned with the dashes?

[sick lynx]

it's not that deep bro https://morsecode.world/international/translator.html

[sullen gull]

Oh, being pedantic again ... Got it.

[sick lynx]

oop

[sullen gull]

moves along

[unique kernel]

No thats ---•••---

[sick lynx]

"morsecode dot world" it's a translator that uses dots

[placid stirrup]

Isn't SOS the easiest to make in Morse? So .-.
I'm wrong

[reef basin]

oh you need translator for it?

[crisp jetty]

Should I keep all my bases on one power grid

[sick lynx]

maybe having them unaligned is more readable?

[reef basin]

up to you but most people do that

[placid stirrup]

Generally the least maintenance that way

[unique kernel]

Indeed "I send an sos to the world"

[sick lynx]

I wasn't born in 1850

[sullen gull]

You don't have to. In this save, I have power built with my aluminium factory producing the worlds bauxite. It's nice to have it on it's own grid.

[sick lynx]

haha I remember a video of two old guys communicating in morse code, one of them tapping and the other snickers like he heard a dirty joke :D

[tall lantern]

all one one grid does tend to be easier

[reef basin]

looking at the morse code messages that started this, I don't find it more readable

[unique kernel]

Now listen here you yongen back in our day we were able to buy a house with nothing more than a paycheck a basket of peaches and a handshake but these days you gotta get a loan and even then you still dont own it

[reef basin]

may also be because of lack of letter separators

[crisp jetty]

Mane I’m struggling so hard to make it so my factories aren’t bottlenecking at some point

[sick lynx]

...and after we bought the house, we'd take the bottom off the basket and play basket ball!

[sullen gull]

ahembreaksahem

[unique kernel]

Behold the letter separatorinator!

[unique kernel]

Yup had to goto school up a hill both ways thru the snow

Ant that right greeny

We're not old were well seasoned

[sick lynx]

my mind was expecting "amen break"

[crisp jetty]

How tf am I posed to get 1k smart plates bro

[carmine aspen]

Do other stuff while theyre being made

[unique kernel]

Very carefully

[sick lynx]

automation, and then just leaving the game running

you know, the whole point of the game

[reef basin]

automate them, build other stuff while they are being made

[sullen gull]

Patience. Build a single machine making them and go build the next thing. Come back - Profit

[sick lynx]

just put all the materials in your inventory and then craft them at the bench Kappa

[unique kernel]

I prefer to watch them its like little bird flying across the window sill

[sullen gull]

Can't with those.

[sick lynx]

Kappa

[tall lantern]

what's a water monster got to do with anything

[sick lynx]

Ah, you've never been in Twitch chat? "Kappa" is an emote that means sarcasm

[crisp jetty]

Am I mistaken or is this the same dev team that made valheim

[unique kernel]

Think you mean "nessi"

[sick lynx]

not dev, publisher

[reef basin]

mistaken

[unique kernel]

Identity

[viscid sparrow]

I honestly did not know that, I've Used twitch quite a bit within the last year or few

[sick lynx]

It's an older reference, sir, but it checks out.

It's from the old days of Justin dot TV before Amazon bought it

[viscid sparrow]

Ohhh fair enough

[unique kernel]

Whats this twitch yall speak of?

[sick lynx]

"purple app"

Where people livestream videogames.

[unique kernel]

Thats where we are?

[sick lynx]

this is blurple

[unique kernel]

Whats a "blurple"?

[sick lynx]

blue+purple

[sullen gull]

You started it "Grandpa" 😏

[crisp jetty]

So for coal power, I route a water extractor and a coal miner into a coal powered generator?

[sick lynx]

yup

[crisp jetty]

Fuck bro I have to build so many factories now

[sick lynx]

make sure each coal-powered generator has enough water. MK1 pipes carry 300m3, and each needs 45 (less/more depending on clock speed)

[sick lynx]

Yay!

[carmine aspen]

You have no idea

[crisp jetty]

When I try to build a factory a get confused and stare at my computer for an hour and then I build it and there’s 15 things wrong with it

[sick lynx]

pesky core gameplay

[sick lynx]

well, good thing it's pretty easy to scrap and rebuild

[crisp jetty]

Yeah

[sick lynx]

you're learning

[crisp jetty]

Do you reccomend making a separate factory for each part that u need (ie: rotors, reinforced plates, screws…)

[sick lynx]

there are guides around, but that experience of figuring it out yourself and then being proud of yourself is priceless

[fierce glen]

why cant i get enough water for 8 coal powers

[sick lynx]

They don't need to be separate locations/buildings, but you'll find that resources are spread across the map, and you need to bring some of them together...

[crisp jetty]

Also ik I kinda spoiled myself, but how do I get the blade runners?

[sick lynx]

So, do you make a new factory for that thing, or do you logistics it from an existing factory?