satisfactory

[unique kernel]

just a few

[real shale]

Oh my god

Wait

What's ionised fuel then....

[unique kernel]

rookie numbers i can make much more with the whopping 2,700 ive got at my disposal just gotta refine it lol

[polar leaf]

not worth it personally

also I dont have phase 5

I'm not even using it all I'm only making 216GW raw right now

the rest I'm turning into packaged for drones and personal use and a bit left for overflow

[unique kernel]

thats rookie numbers even for that

[cunning siren]

OH dang, I forgot quick search also works as a calculator 🤯

[unique kernel]

hol up lemme get my list out

[real shale]

If only I could do my math homework in satisfactory

[polar leaf]

just use satisfactory tools

makes my life way easier

[unique kernel]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=uDLOoXWxaFvrg6Z8vMNs

[unique kernel]

sometimes my geinus is its almost frightening

[polar leaf]

how much energy does that make

but damn thats a lot of alum

[shy mulch]

Depends what recipes you use. You can get a lot better than that ratio

[unique kernel]

gotta run le numbers but ide assume more than 1.21 gigawatts!

[real shale]

Guys, my energy consumption is this equation and I can't solve it, quickly what is Sin(90⁰)

[polar leaf]

I was planning on using this for alum https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Xc8nXp2eByHh622yAg6E

I'm procrastinating making it

I have a temporary factory rn making a few

this is the one I used for rocket fuel https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=tYq9nNq4ezNEhLrqH8aK

[shy mulch]

I require royalties for any procrastination

[unique kernel]

30,000 = turbo

50,625 + rocket

Ion is for drones and trucks only so a whopping 80,625MW of power

[unique kernel]

sloppy + electrode + Pure = enough foil to wrap the planet like a baked potato

[simple mango]

Would be nice if the blueprint designer let us place floor holes without having to place a floor. :I

[dense violet]

how would it know how long it had to be?

[unique kernel]

ah ah ah remember "if you cannot figure out how to make it fit within the designer it just shows your inefficiency"

[simple mango]

ahh right, "You're playing the game wrong.", how could I forget?

[noble sand]

[unique kernel]

as my dad would say "very carefully"

[dense violet]

that still has nothing to do with 'how would the hole know how far down to go'

[unique kernel]

as i said very carefully

[dense violet]

that's a troll answer, and thus worthless

[unique kernel]

no no its priceless

just because you cant scan it doesint mean its worthless it just means you gotta move your thumb

or uncrinkle the corner in case of frozend bags of stuff

[hushed inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-prowler-into-the-spider-verse-chasing-miles-morales-gif-26559411

Hogs for no reason

[unique kernel]

i dont give em a chance to flee 3 wacks and there shells pop off like a car hood

the bigger ones? i just stick some boom barrels to em and blast the roof off

cant wack em blast em

either way DNA for the shop

[hushed inlet]

Spare a person or draw 1500 cards in uno
Hog be like:

https://tenor.com/view/so-many-sad-card-loss-play-gif-11388517003552164207

[unique kernel]

nah

[simple mango]

My original oil/plastic/rubber/fuel setup is so bad and uglythat I basically stopped progging the game days ago so I could build enough nuclear to replace the power generation and then bulldoze/rebuild the oil complex.

[polar leaf]

ok now the question

where is the green goo going

🧐

[simple mango]

Beeg stack of "I'll worry about this later".

[polar leaf]

thats why I went for rocket fuel

[hushed inlet]

Something that I can’t believe is that hogs are herbivores so just by attacking me they are putting a GIANT hit me sign on them

[polar leaf]

technically rocket fuel is just as hard as nuclear if you don't recycle nuclear

but idk I never did nuclear I'm scared of green goo

[hushed inlet]

How do I find purple crystals

[polar leaf]

700 hours and never touched uranium

🥺

[lime ermine]

Quartz?

[simple mango]

Each nuke plant running at 250% fills a stack of Goo every 40 minutes, and every Industrial Storage then provides 32 hours of "no worries, mate".

[hushed inlet]

I accidentally touched uranium while I was making a railway to the bamboo forest

[hushed inlet]

No the purple ones in the mam the alien tech ones

[gentle wedge]

good evening chat any linux gamers know any specific steps they might've taken to improve performance? getting some heavy stutter when looking in certain directions, changing graphics settings has no effect

[lime ermine]

Oh Sam

[dense violet]

sloops or mercers? either way, around

[lime ermine]

There's a few nodes about, usually underground

[hushed inlet]

How do I find the purple crystals chat

Not quartz

[simple mango]

again, "purple crystals" == SAM

[hushed inlet]

Oh I thought u ment something else

But I never seen one underground just slugs and shrooms

[simple mango]

do your alien research tree and you can ping them

waaaaaay underground, usually a beeg underground

[hushed inlet]

Ok

Thanks

[dense violet]

there's a bunch on or near the surface too though

[hushed inlet]

Where

[dense violet]

all over

again, do you mean SAM ORE or sloops / mercers?

[hushed inlet]

I never see em I mean it feels like uranium is more common

[dense violet]

there's about 10k pm sam ore on hte map. 2k uranium

[hushed inlet]

Uhh ok

[simple mango]

You need to explore the map regardless to get Sloops/Spheres/HDDs so you're going to stumble across SAM while you're doing that

[hushed inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-gif-375777183331059108

[cunning siren]

It's on high elevations and very low ones in caves mostly 🤷, some of it is kind of out in the open though

[hushed inlet]

Ok

[cunning glade]

Is bio fuel good as fuel for fuel gens ?

Just curious

[hushed inlet]

Idk

[shell saddle]

I can’t wait to play when the game releases on console

[dense violet]

define 'as good' ?

you can't automate it?

is that good or bad for you?

[exotic prism]

whats the website ppl use to map out their factories on a 2d plane

[dense violet]

if you mean a planner? this is probably the best one. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/

[exotic prism]

yes thank you

why does making motors have to be so hard ;-;

[cunning siren]

If you have sloops that is a good place to put em

[exotic prism]

i dont have that yet, too lazy to unlock it

[cunning siren]

Doggos can gift computers, that helps

[white dawn]

Keep going! Soon enough you'll be eating motor factories for breakfast. :)

[cunning siren]

Many of the Crash Sites that are "more guarded" may have computers laying around them too

[real shale]

Why doesn't mine ever gift me a 4090 then

[polar leaf]

I am 200 hours in with 300gw production and I haven't automated motors either

[hard mantle]

how do i manage cables so im not just placing them whenever i need them i have no idea how im supposed to do this.. #screenshots message

[polar leaf]

I'm building like 120 CO p/m to make crystal motors rn tho

and maybe crystal computer

[cunning siren]

🤔 IDK, my last run was super light on the high speed connectors though... Maybe doggos slackin'?

[exotic prism]

😂

[polar leaf]

it's not even a joke

I just manually fed the stuff into a slooped machine to make them

[real shale]

Another person making me question my crystal oscillator factory

[polar leaf]

containers of rotors + a machine making stators feeding into motor machine

[cunning siren]

Early on yea there will be many poles 🤷

[polar leaf]

I filled like 8 industrial containers of motors

and used it all

[hard mantle]

but i dont want it to get out of control

[polar leaf]

😭

[polar leaf]

you're too early don't worry abt that

You don't even have foundations

[hard mantle]

you sure??

[polar leaf]

most of that you'll dismantle later

I don't worry about looks until coal power

[real shale]

I swear I'm doing something wrong in my crystal oscillator factory

I need more iron

[polar leaf]

you need to unlock some stuff with coupons too

like wall power pole

[hushed inlet]

Anyone wanna talk about their BEST MOMENTS in game?

[hard mantle]

buying the game

[cunning siren]

You can purchase the wall mounted (floor ceiling) versions that need something to mount too like a painted beam. They take up less space but require more managment and planning to make it "Pretty"

[real shale]

My best moment in game was closing it down

[polar leaf]

how do you do it?

[real shale]

I don't know.

I haven't managed to yet

[dense violet]

a good method many enjoy are sockets. Put a socket next to the machine and keep going. 1 socket per machine

[hushed inlet]

How about near death experiences in sadisfactory (not irl)

[hard mantle]

its not even like wanting it to be pretty its just managing it like i can connect a power pole to 2 machines then i need another pole to connect to 2 more machines and then that repeated over and over again

[real shale]

I've lost all my sense of identity and replaced all of my memories with the perfect configuration of factories for maximum efficiency

As a FICSIT employee, personal memories are inefficient use of brain storage capacity

[real shale]

I had my cursor over the exit button once

[hushed inlet]

Uhh

[hard mantle]

as ada would say "Memories and other enjoyment methods not relating to exploiting the enviroment are insignificant" or something like that

[polar leaf]

I don't know if it's considered cheeating but whenever I die I reload a save

[hushed inlet]

I fell of a cliff in 0.1 hp

[hard mantle]

real talk though why is ada so mean

[cunning siren]

YES, you'll be spamming poles to get free connections. There are upgrades with the Caterium Research tree in the MAM to if it bugs you that much, requires quickwire though 🤷

[polar leaf]

I mean It's my way of playing the game and I find it fun

mainly I do it because of risky hypertube cannons

[real shale]

Save scummer! Jk

[dense violet]

using mk2 and mk3 poles like that is even messier

[cunning glade]

I mean good as in do they make a good amount of power

[polar leaf]

but honestly I barely die to fauna since I discovered I could build cage blueprints

[cunning siren]

It appears it's more about effort and less about "prettyness"

[polar leaf]

that and packaged rocket fuel

[dense violet]

sure? but also, you can't automate it. So do you really want unreliable power/

[real shale]

I stay away from fauna as they terrify me more than they pose a threat to me

[cunning glade]

Also how does one place signs on the ground

[dense violet]

management , not prettiness. Spider webs of mess is not management. Besides, like a lot of things blueprints voids the 'effort' part

[hard mantle]

guys why is ada so mean

[dense violet]

clip another obj into the ground, put sign on that

[cunning glade]

More of a I have leaves or wood I can put it in and have extra power 🤷 prolly doesn't make sense too ig

[real shale]

Why do you have emotions to consider her mean? What are you? Emotional?

Get back to work! We don't have time for emotions

[dense violet]

would you really be building factories relying on that power though?
liquid bio fuel is a solid choice for jet packs though

[cunning siren]

Based on this comment I'm not really sure if that is part of the issue for this person 🤷 #satisfactory message

[cunning glade]

Fair that was the plan but I figured I'd have extra so

[cunning glade]

I see

[real shale]

The biomass is better suited to biomass burners

[dense violet]

LBF is a perfectly vialbe alternative to TF for jet packs. So will keep you going to rocket or iodised rocket for it

[real shale]

Fuel generators will burn regardless of whether or not there is usage for them

Keeping it to biomass burners is better because it'll only use it up when it needs to

[hard mantle]

it feels so good to press this shiny red button with a rocket on it

[polar leaf]

do people use LBF for anything other than jetpack

[cunning glade]

Rocket fuel is good

[polar leaf]

at the point you get refineries you're not using biomass burners

[cunning glade]

Or whatever I picked some up

[polar leaf]

and putting LBF in fuel gen is a no brainer

[real shale]

the thing I don't like about the LBF for the jetpack is it's significantly slowly speed compared to TF

[polar leaf]

I think lbf is better than tf in every way aside from speed

the real question is rocket fuel or lbf

[hard mantle]

you guys are talking about some random things i do not understand and frankly dont think i will like wth is lbf and tf.

[polar leaf]

rocket fuel is better vertically and lbf horizontally

[frail sleet]

nah, just having TF equipped gives you better air control (ability to curve your trajectory left/right/etc). Rocket fuel does so even more.

[polar leaf]

I use both but I'm more a fan of rocket fuel

[real shale]

Rocket fuel

[dense violet]

... how so? it's temp power, you can't automate it

[real shale]

Rocket fuel is outright better

[cunning glade]

I want more

Its like a drug

I got a taste of it and now the jetpack feels slow without it

[frail sleet]

rocket fuel can't fly as far or as long. Ionized is better, at that point the only advantage of LBF is more controllable thrust which some consider a positive.

[dense violet]

huh apparently LBF has a much longer flight time compared to RF

like double

[real shale]

Yeah but the distance you travel is a lot less

[hard mantle]

you guys are talking about some straight gibberish

[frail sleet]

LBF goes further because it's in the air for longer

It just doesn't accelerate vertically as well

[dense violet]

only vertically. And jet packs aren't really a 'vertical' transport method. More coasting along with teh speed you made

[real shale]

True I guess

[polar leaf]

yeah I meant to say it's something dumb

my English is not the best

[real shale]

Although I'm more interested in the fact solid biofuel is faster than LBF in vertical speed

[polar leaf]

😭

[real shale]

That is funny to see

[polar leaf]

I mean it lasts a second

[cunning siren]

Ionized fuel is pretty bad ass though, sort of a mix of Rocket and LBF 🤔

[real shale]

Yeah but it's still the fact it's faster in vertical speed despite being the very first fuel you get for it that's funny

[hard mantle]

i forgot i was mining limestone and came to see what you guys were talking about and now i have 940 limestone...

[mystic oriole]

I'm out to build a pyramid in the desert, I know how original...

[cunning siren]

Rocket fuel is pretty amazing thought as long as you take "jump breaks" to refuel

[real shale]

I don't like the vertical speed of LBF tbh, its more a feel thing for me, I like the initial jump more

[cunning siren]

Most folk go ez-mode though with hoverpack + power pole spam

[dense violet]

the only problem I see with projects like that is that it's so easy to dwarf the landscape like that. Makes all structures feel weird

[real shale]

I like turbo fuel

And it's not like I'm ever gonna be in short supply of it anyway if I have it hooked up to dimensional depot

"oh no I'm low, oh, now I'm back to normal again"

[mystic oriole]

true, picking the size carefully too

[dense violet]

What I want is a mod that makes all objects and player like 1/4 the size they are. And probably adds a bunch of rocks and trees to make up for it. Huge up the map more

[real shale]

Are you getting the hogs to haul the bricks up the pyramid for you?

[dense violet]

I want my factory nestled against a mountain, not being bigger than one

[cunning siren]

With nudge one can use power towers from lower altitudes to reach higher ones 😆 it's kind of "stinky cheese" AND 🤷 it works

Zipline pretty OP

[real shale]

I hate elevating power towers so much

It looks so ugly to me

[polar leaf]

tbf that's also valid for RF and Ionized

[cunning siren]

Nothing is stopping you from deleting them later 🤷

[polar leaf]

Nah, my power poles are railways

[real shale]

My radar towers are.....

as much as I hate elevating power towers, I hate elevating power poles more

I have a thing about having my radar towers up high

[spark sky]

Well, I put my new power plant together in creative, the two blueprints fit together, but, the vertical logistics for the solid biofuel in the power plant (the top part) are on the opposite side of the plant from the output of the biofuel factory below.

Not fixing it tonight.

[real shale]

I wish underground cables were a thing

[cunning siren]

One "trick" I've used is to make max height lifts place a pole on the lift and repeat 🤷

[real shale]

I mean technically they are

But....then it's clipping

At some point I'm going to completely revamp my power infrastructure and drop using power poles entirely

And use custom blueprinted 3 phase poles with wall outlets

[cunning siren]

I remember reading that was part of the radar tower text to place them high for better effectiveness, I think that's no longer a thing though now

[spark sky]

So, you're not using the floor hole to make the lift any height?

[cunning siren]

Not always

[spark sky]

I mean, as I understand it, that allows for a lift as high as you can put the hole.

[real shale]

Eh I did it exclusively for aesthetic purposes

[real shale]

This I wanna question because I had an incident where this didn't work

I recall trying to use a floor hole for a conveyor lift and it still capping out for some reason

[spark sky]

Well, unless they "fixed" that.

[cunning siren]

Nope

[real shale]

I had it when I was doing my aluminium production for batteries because I was trying to drop a high up bauxite node down lower

And I tried to lift it down and ended up having to chain lifts to get it down despite it going through a floor hole

[cunning siren]

What I do is make a blueprint of floor holes so there is much less possibility for misalignment issues. Once it's connected you can make adjustments after

Sometimes it's hard to know from various distances with floor holes

[spark sky]

I wonder if there is a specific order which you have to follow (from the bottom to the top, or vice-versa)/

[real shale]

Another thing as well, is I find it odd that conveyer wall holes on their own are blacked out at the entry/exit point but are completely transparent on conveyer walls

[cunning siren]

If both sides have a floor hole no

If one side only does THEN yes

[spark sky]

I assume that whichever hole you connect to first is the source.

[frail sleet]

it's more that it runs out and you have to land to reload, which can be annoying (and kills your speed)

[spark sky]

Like belts.

[real shale]

I tap it out

It annoying when you do it with no momentum tho yea

But if you can build some up before using turbo fuel you can go pretty far on one load

[cunning siren]

It's so much more forgiving to work with floor hole to floor hole as long as I'm not doing splitters off it I try to use them as much as possiible

[spark sky]

Have the floor holes always been an end point in and of themselves (in other words, if there's a floor hole, the lift stops there and the head doesn't keep on going through the floor)?

[cunning siren]

I'm pretty sure you can clip a "normal" lift in the same space a floor hole is

[spark sky]

Well, recently I've placed the lift through several floors to connect two things, placing the floor holes afterward for looks.

[cunning siren]

Yea, that's kind of required in some situations as there are bugs with lifts and using them with splitters and mergers + floor holes so 🤷 do what ya gotta' do

[spark sky]

Heh. I've started making blueprints of vertical load balancers, but I realized today that, to be thorough, I would need to make versions with each level of lift. That could get a bit tedious (not to mention confusing if you make, say, 6 different lengths/designs of load balancer, then have to make them for each level of lift). For now, I'm just making them all Mk 3.

[dense violet]

that sure sounds like a lot of work, yes

[spark sky]

I saw a video talking about (and giving examples of) all kinds of different connections for lifts. It would be nicer if we could nudge the lift so it would clip into both ends. Hm, perhaps that's something I could use floor holes to do.

[cunning siren]

Lifts CAN be nudged in some situations AND yes, only one part will "autoconnect" (Tink sound)

That is fine if the other end is a belt or a splitter / merger 🤷

[spark sky]

Yeah, with my biofuel burners I was trying to have them closer together horizontally. I may try the floor holes to see if they would help, since you seem to be connecting to the hole, not to the thing on the other side of it.

Anyway, it's time I got out of here. I work early in the morning, so, catch you guys later.

[cunning siren]

Sounds like you ran into the same problem I did 😆 #screenshots message

[spark sky]

Oh, you took it to the next level 🙂

Mine's in a building, with walls. The base is hexagonal and fits in a 4x4 square (but parts above stick out from there).

I was rather disappointed in the power output of my 12 coal generators. It's better, but I thought it would be more.

[cunning siren]

Coal is better than biofuel AND worse than geothermal IMO 🤷 😆

[spark sky]

Well, that's probably why I was disappointed, I had geothermal before coal.

[cunning siren]

Yep, if you can do that then the option to skip coal is 100%

[dense violet]

I mean you can skip basically anything but biofuel

[spark sky]

I'm building some of each power plant on principle, though.

[cunning siren]

There is a lot of coal just doin' nothing so... 🤷 go for it

[spark sky]

I don't know if you saw my coal power plant, but I made a blueprint for 4 stacked power plants, then set 3 next to each other.

(No, you can't put the top two power plants in till you place the blueprint, but you can put the stubs for the logistics for the top two, and place the bottom two, that saves some time.)

That is, the bottom two are in the blueprint, the top two have markers for where they go.

[dense violet]

mod that makes them drop biomass 😛

[vestal hill]

You monster

[dense violet]

sustainable green energy

[vestal hill]

Have you heard of geothermal

[dense violet]

less fun

[vestal hill]

Have you heard of coal

[dense violet]

yes, you make it from Doggo biomass into bio coal

Doggo Coal. Doal , if you will

[vestal hill]

Or you could just chop some trees and turn that into biocoal

[dense violet]

v boring 😛

[crisp jetty]

is there any way to make all your base one color without doing everything manually

[vestal hill]

You mean foundations?

Oh base

[dense violet]

change teh default colour swatch you're using

[high pebble]

Does anyone else feel bad if they place things and leave them clearly unsupported or will I get over it?

[dense violet]

depends on you. It's pretty fast putting suport pilars in though

[versed mesa]

Hello all good morning

[wary perch]

I feel bad that the only drink i can drink is coffee and not several other beverages out of my ingame coffee cup

[high pebble]

Berryl nut juice?

[wintry carbon]

was wondering what is the best way to continue after lvl 4. i got 8 coal plants and all basic suff produced. due to power limit i need to build new powerplant. should i futurewise concentrate more on ore melting in different areas? and keep my first base to make a bit of everything. so i later on move stuff to other places to craft more advanced stuff?

[earnest oak]

anyone know why my trains cannot reach its next destination even though it clearly can?

[velvet nimbus]

I SAVED THE DAY

[dense violet]

pretty much just pick a milestone and go 🙂

I'd aim to find 3-4 coal nodes next to water and turn it all to power

48-64 coal gens is pretty reasonable before hitting fuel power

[wintry carbon]

does sounds like a lot, but it prob get worse 🤣

[mint wagon]

Guys the game finally clicked for me

I was playing the game then I realized "what if I just play this like factorio"

Boom instantly fully optimized everything

The answer really was the games we played along the way

[true mulch]

Make a #1038092680493801533 post with screenshots of your stations. They have a set arrival direction, not a departure direction

[wicked minnow]

Guys I highly recommend a dedicated server even for solo play, allows you to scale a lot higher and take a lot of load of your cpu. You can also have machines produce while no one is logged on saving GPU power

Another really good advantage is you can go work all day etc and have your buddies log onto the server to do work

[dense violet]

it's not too bad 🙂 especially if you put a machine with all the pipe/belt/power line hook ups. makes it ver yfast.

and if you want a lot of power but not a ton of generators later, you want nuclear. The later fuel stuff means you need many hundreds of fuel gens evey over clocked for big power

very feasible

[jolly kindle]

Say I want to reduce 4 mostly full belts down to 3 full belts with one left over for remainder. What layout of splitters and mergers do I use? Is there a name for this I can look up on the wiki?

Ive seen some youtubers use them, looks like a triangle shape of a bunch of splitters and mergers. Thought Id ask here if anyone happened to know.

Ah this is the video I remember. I forgot who made it. Thanks

[dense violet]

in general the easiest thign to do is clock and group machines up so you have the parts per min o nthe belt you need in the first place 🙂 clocking and selective merging is your most powerful tool

[cosmic adder]

yay, im sick! I can play in da mornin

[clever stone]

Good timezone chat, finally set up that power augmentation device #screenshots message

feels good to be producing over 4000Mw more than I am consuming it

[cosmic adder]

school, even tho i dont like missing 11th grade, this time its serious

[cosmic adder]

im still with coal

yeah, but if i miss test, i ahve to write it and i know nothing..

[clever stone]

Coal is still very reliable there’s no shame in being at that stage

[cosmic adder]

yeah, im still unlocking tier 4

would need some hlep cuz its a mess here

[clever stone]

^ this is correct

[cosmic adder]

pasta?

[clever stone]

Spaghetti

[cosmic adder]

huh?

[clever stone]

Oh we are on different wavelengths

But yes spaghetti is essential and also non essential depending on the context

[cosmic adder]

yeah, what is that damn spaghetti?

[clever stone]

The spaghetti I’m referring to is

Conveyer belt mess

[cosmic adder]

ohh

[clever stone]

Practical in the short term but it’s a massive headache in the long term

[cosmic adder]

its not only conveyor belt mess..

everything is a mess

[cosmic adder]

idk how to fix it..wanted

[clever stone]

I mean the further you progress the less your earlier builds will be vital

So there’s no harm in tearing them down and rebuilding

[cosmic adder]

wont iron, and stuff be needed tho?

ore like rotors

[clever stone]

There’s like 500 iron nodes on the map you could like make a better dedicated factory for iron and reuse the old space for smth else

also it’s just really satisfying to see some organization despite the early chaos

Like uhhh

[cosmic adder]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1424648424762118225

thats my mess

[cosmic adder]

there are?

[clever stone]

Well idk if it’s 500 but it’s like one of the most common resources in the game

[cosmic adder]

well yea, i have lot of iron nearby

[clever stone]

There’s areas I’ve discovered that have upwards of 3+ nodes in like 20ft of each other

[cosmic adder]

so thats like 50m??

huh?

[clever stone]

I’m not that well versed im just winging the specifics

Point is there’s places you can better make efficient iron farms

[cosmic adder]

i see i see

[clever stone]

Also compared to my arse factory (Farsectory)? You’ve got some proper organization and that’s cool

Truly

[cosmic adder]

oh, i thought its not organised

[eternal swallow]

Compacted coal is kinda useless :/

[clever stone]

You learn as you go and it’s a start

[eternal swallow]

Like

[clever stone]

Something I’ve learned is foundations solve everything

[eternal swallow]

You can run off normal coal till you get turbo fuel and then just use that

And coal is the limiting factor in diamond production

[cosmic adder]

yea thats true, i dont even have much to upgarde to mk2 most stuff lol

[eternal swallow]

So you need it for that

[clever stone]

Agreed, I didn’t even unlock compact coal until today and I’m already well underway with fuel processers and geysers

[eternal swallow]

Just use coal, a geyser or 2 if if you really need it and ato youre well past turbo fuel research so you can just use that

Atp*

[clever stone]

The most useless item for me has been Polymer Resin because outside of my gas filter factory I do not see a use for it

[eternal swallow]

Meh its a stepping stone

[clever stone]

I mean it’s nice to have automated fabric at least

[eternal swallow]

I need it bc without it i wouldnt have enough power to set up nuclear

[cosmic adder]

are hyper tubes good?

[eternal swallow]

Yes

[cosmic adder]

okay

[eternal swallow]

If you do it right you barely have any polymer resin

Is nuclear really necessary

Bc like

Atleast untill nuclear fasta

[clever stone]

The what whar

[eternal swallow]

Pasta

😭 🙏 holy shit

[cosmic adder]

why sometimes that woman glitches?

[clever stone]

Because she doesn’t like us

That’s why

[cosmic adder]

ohh

[clever stone]

-# /j

[cosmic adder]

ai with woman voice..woman

yeah ik

[clever stone]

There’s a lady in my head that berates me for dying on the job

Truly the pinnacle of technology and human integration

You’re never far away from workplace inadequacy

[cosmic adder]

i see

[clever stone]

Spooky radical aliens of spookiness

Nooooo spoilers aaaaa

It’s fine that’s like what the typical glad0s thing to do

Anyways I gotta say that my favorite part about the game is the little bits of worldbuilding you can make up on your own based on what you end up building

Like for me I’ve been hard at work designating zones with specific actual names and purposes

Like Extraction Site Messina Station Factory Hydra etc etc, I love that aspect of being able to put your own touch on your approach to the playthrough

Satisfactory 2: Satisfiedtory

[cosmic adder]

is quartz mined by hand only? Or with drtill too?

i see

[hard ivy]

No, I just bought it on steam again

If I spent 200 bucks on snowrunner and most of its dlcs, css deserves to get 100 for 2 copies of the game and the soundtrack

[silk ocean]

Just get it on steam XD

Don't be pinging the mods now 😉

[shy mulch]

Does the music play all the time or are you meaning through the boombox? I usually have youtube or netflix running on other screen while I'm playing so I don't bother with the music and/or don't notice it

[cursive totem]

phase 4 finished

just 4 or 5 more factories and its done omg

[shy mulch]

Congrats, you're nearly done with the tutorial 😛

I don't even know what that means

[cursive totem]

it does feel like i learned so much i could be doing it all over much better haha

[shy mulch]

fs I need a faster car, my friends are comparing their 100-200 times and mine won't even do 200 🙁

[silk ocean]

When you say Epidemic, what kind of Epidemic. Like a Pandemic? or a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time? xD

[shy mulch]

I would use public transport more if it was actually useful and could get me where I need to be in a reasonable amount of time

There's only 3 places I actually travel to
Visit son: 45 min by car, 2.5hr by public transport
Visit parents: not possible by public transport, they live 5 miles from nearest any kind of station/stop
Shopping: 10 min by car, 30 min by public transport

[silk ocean]

Also sounds like a pathogen xD

[silk ocean]

Try visiting my parents. Basically have to fly. or 9 hours by car xD

UK

Of course

[shy mulch]

it's very common

[silk ocean]

How do you get from London to Inverness.. you don't drive, you fly

[shy mulch]

I find it amusing how much americans don't understand europe/uk

europe is about same land area as USA and has 2x the population
but americans act like it is a tiny thing

[cursive totem]

what even is that question XD

oh for sure

screw planes

give me high speed rail

[silk ocean]

Of course you can fly in the UK, it's called domestic flights

[true mulch]

Negative feedback loop. Noone rides the bus, so it's dangerous and underfunded, so it has poor service, so noone rides the bus

[cursive totem]

funding is the start, not a consequence

[shy mulch]

tomorrow I am travelling for work to another city, about 650Km, train takes 5.5hr, plane takes 1hr, I have driven this journey once and it took me 9hr, won't do that again lol, I will fly when possible

[silk ocean]

Train is expensive, and slow. Taking the train to Edinburgh is like (return) 200 quid. Flying is like 40 quid. Faster.. cheaper xD

[shy mulch]

this is why government needs to act and fund unprofitable routes and be patient

[silk ocean]

Fly --> 55 minutes.. Train --> 9 hours xD

[shy mulch]

I don't like budget airlines, my work uses more expensive ones but I don't pay so it doesn't matter, I think the train would work out about same cost anyway

[true mulch]

The UK situation is ridiculous. Where I live trains run 3 or 4 times an hour and are covered by the ticket pass

[shy mulch]

sounds like you're taking the wrong planes 😛

[silk ocean]

Well if work pays it's not a problem xD

[silk ocean]

Oh trains run every 15 minutes. Still takes 9 hours to get to Inverness xD

The UK is bigger than you imagine

No.. Nuclear Power

[shy mulch]

One time I went on school excursion to Prague, it was so silly, 4 hours on bus to get there, then about 4 hours in the city, have lunch, see some tourist things, then 4 hours on bus to return, my only real memory was being bored on the bus 😄

[silk ocean]

ECML/WCML is electrified

[cursive totem]

dont remind me 😵

[shy mulch]

I don't think the power in satisfactory really follows physics, so you can't really say if it is ac or dc 😄

[cursive totem]

i still dont understand how AC works

how is "moving electrons back and forth" doing work

i get DC, that makes sense

[shy mulch]

Ready to blow your mind? Even in DC, the electronis don't really move. Electricity is more like an electromagnetic shockwave

[true mulch]

Someone once said that since you have to connect everything directly it's probably closer to DC

[silk ocean]

It's AC, like 25 kilovolts

It's not DC, that would be crazy

[cursive totem]

i know thats a hot debate yeah

[true mulch]

We also don't really deal with phases the same way as in AC

[shy mulch]

I think Veritasium did a video about this

[cursive totem]

i know them, yah. also the responmes from others in the space

electroboom as well

[shy mulch]

I miss him 😄

[shy mulch]

Best internet

[silk ocean]

Me too

[cursive totem]

miss? wdym

is he gone?

[shy mulch]

Tom Scott doesn't make youtube videos any more

[silk ocean]

Yes he quit

[cursive totem]

oh i though you meant electroboom

[shy mulch]

He still does other things, but his YT videos were amazing

[silk ocean]

Tom Scott

[cursive totem]

yeah tom scott was a delight in the space

but i get his reasoning for why he stopped and its fine honestly

[silk ocean]

Anyway, back to the UK. It's bigger than you think. It might surprise you that we fly in the UK. Because it's quite far to get up north xD

[shy mulch]

You ever do the NC500? I'd love to drive that some day

[silk temple]

come on 😛

[shy mulch]

I visited Skye last year, I'd love to go further north and see it all

[silk ocean]

Never done it no xD But it looks amazing

[shy mulch]

I've got work to do anyway, enjoy your day everyone 🙂

[silk ocean]

Offtopic would be boring.. and then the mods would get involved xD

[silk temple]

this is a channel for talking about satisfactory things. Scotland looks very satisfactory.

[cursive totem]

as im nearing the end of my playthrough i keep thinking; would it actually be good to have a dedicated factory for every item that just exands more and more as you need more items? currently im going "build (almost) everything from scratch at each new step" but i feel especially in the late game this gets problematic quickly

[silk ocean]

Scotland is Satisfactory xD

[silk temple]

It would be an acceptable plan

[cursive totem]

maybe ill do that next time around

[silk temple]

getting resources to those places will be the bottleneck

[cursive totem]

although im dreading how big the base item fabs will be lol

yeah and that as well. dragging huge amounts of ore around idk

[silk temple]

If i do a third playthrough I want to bring every single resource node on the map to a central location

[cursive totem]

haha wow thats ambitious

but i do see the appeal ngl

[grave ocean]

belts or with trains

[cursive totem]

how do you even calculate throughput with trains btw? like with belts i know exactly what im getting, but trains?

[silk temple]

Factory Carts

trains are based on the track length

[grave ocean]

doenst the train station show throughput

[silk temple]

it will yes

[silk ocean]

We're building nuclear power. Maybe you should too xD

[grave ocean]

i just finished phase 3

i will soon

[cursive totem]

i know but for me this doesnt seem to update properly

[silk temple]

I went in with what I thought was a simple plan to recycle nuclear waste and that base ended up being my second biggest base lol

[cursive totem]

with waste management?

[grave ocean]

im playing with 2 friends that have never played a factory game before lol

should i wait for nuclear waste managment to do power or no

[silk temple]

I just store it all

[cursive totem]

i have a plan for nuclear but just the waste is such a hassle omg

[grave ocean]

does ficsium produce waste

[silk temple]

store it until you need to deal with it later

[cursive totem]

no, thats the only thing that doesnt

[grave ocean]

okkayyyy

[silk temple]

you can also sink plutonium rods if you want to opt out

[grave ocean]

trueeee

[silk ocean]

Waste management is an issue but we are a nuclear nation. Sellafield will deal with it

[cursive totem]

pellets too? they come even before i think

[grave ocean]

but i was planning like a 1TW power plant in the future

[silk temple]

I dont think you can sink pellets

[grave ocean]

SCIM my beloved

i hit 1k hours on the 2d one but im aiming for the same on satisfactory

[reef basin]

wouldn't recommend SCIM for planning

[silk temple]

I got laid off from my job and just put in a 140hr game to finish off all the achievements

[cursive totem]

why?

[grave ocean]

why

[silk temple]

hmm?

[grave ocean]

i have 37h in like 2 days

i played for 12h on saturday

[reef basin]

it can't deal with loops or byproducts, can't use multiple recipes for same item and sometimes produces very weird layouts, especially in realistic mode

[grave ocean]

imean i just use it for item amounts and then scale down if needed

[cursive totem]

ah, i dont use the calculator anyway just the map

[reef basin]

many mid-lategame productions are impossible to show on SCIM

[silk temple]

I use the belt method of scaling

if the belt is empty I make more until belt is full

[cursive totem]

unfathomable

[grave ocean]

even the nuclear rods

are like broken on the graph

[reef basin]

that still runs into what I said 🤷

[cursive totem]

i only use the interactive map and the modeler. its soooo good omg

[silk temple]

I was for some reason thinking about the math for this today

[grave ocean]

okay cuz i can kinda code should i make a better calc that also deals with byproducts and loops

[reef basin]

modeller isn't a calculator either, it's mostly logistical planner

[reef basin]

there are several

[cursive totem]

i can use it as one?

[silk temple]

if you have products in intermediate steps that take the same inputs it's actually quite hard to calculate

[cursive totem]

like whats the difference even

[grave ocean]

for the beggining scim is the simplest ithink

[reef basin]

that other calculators take a few seconds at most to give you whole production line, in modeller you take several minutes to painstakingly make it yourself

[cursive totem]

i dont care, i like that

[grave ocean]

i was making like a huge ikea style factory that just makes the simple products fr builds

[shy mulch]

even if it is good for early game basic setups, why get used to using a tool that you won't be able to use later, when a better tool is free and is right in front of you

[grave ocean]

and the scim plan was huge and painful

[silk ocean]

Welcome to the UK. Have you been to Torness or one of our nuclear plants. It will change your mind

[crystal siren]

Some people like to torture themselves 🙂

[shy mulch]

That's what Thai massage is for

[cursive totem]

if anything i use the tools for calculation then i guess

[silk temple]

it's going to be decomissioned in 3 years

[cursive totem]

so modeler, tools and interactive map

[silk ocean]

Yes but go to it

[grave ocean]

best spot for t7/8 factory

[reef basin]

near resources it needs

[silk ocean]

It will change your mind about nuclear power

[silk temple]

im maybe going to Edinburgh next month

[grave ocean]

i made 2 factories in nothern forest

so no resources there

[silk temple]

change it how? I'm pro nuclear power is it gonna make me anti-nuclear power?

I prefer our power though, we use water here

[silk ocean]

Just go there. Look at it. It will change your mind. It's absolutely amazing. You are standing on the reactor hall. It's completely silent. It's amazing. 1600 MW right under your feet. You have to be there to believe it

[silk temple]

the Dam near me does 2480 MW :>

also fun fact I was a firefighter there for 10 years

[silk ocean]

Just go there

[grave ocean]

10 fuel generators

[silk temple]

LOL

[grave ocean]

or

1 nuclear

is there a way to look at player stats like how many km of belts placed or how many buldings places

[silk ocean]

It's the most amazing thing you will ever see

[shy mulch]

scim is the way

[leaden turret]

• nuclear waste ✅
• feelings ❎

damn scroll nonsnese

[silk temple]

It would have to be the most amazing thing I would ever see because scotland is a 12 hour flight for me

[leaden turret]

was responding to this

[silk temple]

It's not waste if you can't see it

[leaden turret]

says your proctologist

[silk temple]

😐

[leaden turret]

💩

[obsidian zodiac]

its locked at 30fps using the quality preset on the pro

[leaden turret]

Jason: is typing
me: worried I finally made a bad enough pun

[leaden turret]

pinned comment for any console FAQ before next dev stream?

[silk temple]

I thought console came out at xmas time ish?

[silk ocean]

Go to Torness, take the tour. it's the most amazing thing you will ever see

[obsidian zodiac]

thats a good idea, ive been gathering some new ones already from the YT video

[obsidian zodiac]

nov 4!

[silk temple]

I'll let my friends know

[grave ocean]

off topic but is there any plans to add a way to automate biomass?

and other bio things

[silk temple]

Like growing trees you mean?

[leaden turret]

semi, already is.
fully? only modded at the moment, would require vanilla version of modded farming content.

[grave ocean]

yeah or mushrooms cause could either make coal or fabric

[true mulch]

So... Nov 24.0? 😛

[obsidian zodiac]

not at this time, though i am quite annoying with the team about adding farming

[leaden turret]

which year?

[obsidian zodiac]

20XX

[silk temple]

What kinda farming? Slug ranching?

[grave ocean]

when ficsit is real

[leaden turret]

out of the two of you & Mikael, which is megaman?

[grave ocean]

also this, as an early game alternative for the time crystals

[silk ocean]

Am I going to get blocked again 🙁

[leaden turret]

the kinda farming where we continuously pester <@&370483737957236737> as to whether Lizard Doggo has a butthole or cloaca so we know from whence the fertiliser comes from.

[cursive totem]

omg imagine slug ranching minigame but its like slime rancher

[obsidian zodiac]

i liked playing as protoman as a kid so lets say mikael is megaman

[grave ocean]

i have a few ideas for the slug farming but i might just turn that into a mod myself

[cursive totem]

i am way too deep in certain communities for that line of thought omg

[leaden turret]

I have a response but it might be against the #rules 😅

[cursive totem]

lets keep it that way 😄

iykyk and such

[silk temple]

I'd really love a mid-game "teleport" option I think it would be cool if the drones had a passenger handle that you can hold on to (not that it stops me riding them anyway)

[shy mulch]

again? when/why did you get blocked lol

[cursive totem]

there is, its called a hypertube cannon 😄 😄

[shy mulch]

hypertube cannons LETS GOOOO

[silk temple]

My wife has protoman pyjamas that she's repaired and kept for the last 25 years 🙂

[grave ocean]

Is there a easy way to make hypertube cannons except trail and error

[cursive totem]

what do you mean?

[grave ocean]

Like

[cursive totem]

i point the blueprint in the general direction i want to go, check that its high enough and done

[grave ocean]

So trail and error

[silk temple]

I played a 200 hour savefile and forgot to even build tubes D:

I just play drone rodeo and hope I dont die

[grave ocean]

I had 2 savefiles one where in 12h we didn’t even finish phase 2

[cursive totem]

its not really error because generally you dont fail i feel. unless you want them to land perfectly on a spot

[grave ocean]

And the other where it was done in like 4-5

[silk temple]

kids?

Oh one cat

I got him because I thought he wouldnt be much work but he came with a whole personality

[obsidian zodiac]

that just means youre catting correctly

[silk temple]

So many times I've explained to him the factory im making

[obsidian zodiac]

they remind me of this discord

[shy mulch]

I think I might actually be a cat
I have all the correct personality traits

• Ignores you when you want me
• Sits on your face when you're trying to work
• Has a party when you're trying to sleep
• Sits inside boxes

[silk temple]

Mine is a traitor. I used to feed him the right amount of food but then my wife came along and he can do the slightest meow in her direction and then the bowl is full. Now he sleeps on her head.

[leaden turret]

cat sits in box.

house is box.

human sits in house.

human is cat.

[shy mulch]

precisely

[obsidian zodiac]

my cat will sleep in my arm all night and i will wake up with not BO, but just one smelly cat breath armpit

[shy mulch]

preg_replace('\cat', '\lizard doggo', $s);

is that better @unborn gyro ?

[obsidian zodiac]

i am encouraging the off topic shenanigans, get it out of your systems folks

[leaden turret]

also, flashback to snutt memes:

• #satisfactory-memes message
• #satisfactory-memes message

[silk temple]

Are the modding tools for Satisfactory 3rd party right now?

[leaden turret]

yes

[leaden turret]

flashback to the time when I was cat sitting and I had to keep my bedroom door open because the cat would snuggle for a bit then go and sleep by themselves in the middle of the night

[shy mulch]

Topic suggestions: worst questions people have asked you (this idea was inspired by some of my clients this morning)

[silk temple]

Is there any chance of modding support or updates coming? I've played since very early beta and I see the game as complete but I'd totally pay for an expansion

[leaden turret]

[silk temple]

I would love to see the factorio style insanity of modding make it over here

[burnt ferry]

they refuse to understand that their graph is useless because you cant move the nodes such that it becomes readable without your reordering getting destroyed as soon as you enter a new value and that that in particular drags one clearly to modeller exactly because you have to "painstakingly" (note the defensive, pointless gaslighting) model the fac yourself. but fwiw they did a full tool on their own which is pretty impressive.... but the discussion goes on forever

[leaden turret]

modding support is "good enough" at the moment, so unless there's something aside from wwise issues that "proper" mod support would be worth the effort of CSS adding, I don't see it happening any time soon.

[silk temple]

the good reason is I would lose all my free time

[cursive totem]

im confused who is "they" here 😄

[leaden turret]

there's a mod that replaces with jace/snutt/mikael/(& probably jason too by now), I'm not sure why you think satis modding isn't hype

[burnt ferry]

greeny, the maker of sftools

[cursive totem]

oh

[burnt ferry]

its a sdensitive topic for them

[cursive totem]

ooooooh well that explains it haha

i do like sftools for a quick check of what i should build, and then copy that into modeler for proper planning tho. i see the benfit in both

[silk temple]

im reading the docs now

[burnt ferry]

ye .. its not about to bullshit sftools. modeler just has a clear advantage they deem useless without reason (besides being defensive)

[cunning siren]

I used a steam planner called Modeler today, it seems very handy and intuitive 🤔

[true mulch]

Modeler charts are absolutely unreadable at any zoom level regardless of complexity. Doesn't even list recipe names

[shy mulch]

I don't really like modeler. I tend to use SFT the same way you do, then the actual planning I just do on paper

[cursive totem]

i do see the hassle of modelling everything

[leaden turret]

I built my own planner 😛

[cursive totem]

but the control is kinda the point

[silk temple]

I just place machines down until belts are full

[burnt ferry]

you still have to reorder them nodes yourself.. but at least their position wont be reset then

[cursive totem]

i can cluster machines, naturally extract outposts from that and everything

[true mulch]

Don't order them until you're happy with the numbers...?

[burnt ferry]

id prefer a tool that generates a readable graph right away... but thats nearlyimpossible. also because different people want to look at different aspects

[true mulch]

And screenshot once you're satisfied

Easily solvable

[burnt ferry]

hence reordering (persistently) is a crucial feature for such tool

[cursive totem]

i would love to have the ability to manually add curves / corners to edges so they can be more easily followed in sftools

[true mulch]

You can't solve modeler charts being unreadable no matter what you do

[cursive totem]

how are they unreadable i dont understand

[burnt ferry]

id use sftools only for the very reason they claim (it being fast in workflow) if only the grqph would persist positioning

[true mulch]

Lacks something as basic as recipe names, for starters

[cursive totem]

just hover the machine?

[cursive totem]

that too, yeah. but having custom edges would be even better as a second step

[true mulch]

I can't hover a screenshot when someone shares it

[cursive totem]

well, okay

not really an issue for me but i see it

[burnt ferry]

yes but im considering how easy each feature is to add.. persisting positions is a no brainer

[true mulch]

The charts aren't persistent at all, they're generated live when you open the page

[burnt ferry]

sharing plans is indeed a weakness of modeler

sftools alows you to share the full graph, not just an image

but with its crap ordering 😂

[hard ivy]

I have no issues with it myself

[cunning siren]

There are export and import buttons though, do those not work?

[burnt ferry]

thats great for you

[shy mulch]

Here's a crazy idea
I use the things I like
You use the things you like
Problem solved

[true mulch]

@reef basin, the developer, is aware of the missing functionality, the answer is that usually such seemingly simple things to implement would require significant rework of the planner. I'll let him answer if he wants though

[cursive totem]

just use both 🧠

[true mulch]

By communicating with others, I have to deal with them using things I don't like

[hard ivy]

You get a .sfmd file lol. How am I supposed to open that without having modeler installed (on mobile for example)

[burnt ferry]

ultimately yes.. im not neglecting either, thats the whole pointll both tools have their use

[shy mulch]

I think he's made it abundantly clear that current version of tools should not expect any updates
All the funtionality people are asking for will be in the new version, but ETA on that is "eventually"
Which is absolutely fine, it's a free service and it's his personal time, we should be patient 🙂

[cunning siren]

So it sounds like the "weakness" of modeler is that it requires modeler to read the exports? 🤔

[burnt ferry]

ah good to know.. at least thats possible. as the tool is for free its alright

[cunning siren]

OH, no mobile version

I don't use mobile so 🤷 works for me

[burnt ferry]

the only weakness is its workflow can be slower the rest is nitpicking because some people feel offended when sftools get criticized.. which is the actual thing im making funof/complaining here 😂

[hard ivy]

Also, if somebody uses a lot of outposts, you have to click through a lot of windows to even read it

Tools plans can be read at a glance

[cunning siren]

I've used sftools for years, the different tools seem to offer different things

[burnt ferry]

well.. indeed 😂

thats what we just concluded seconds ago

[cursive totem]

outside?

[hard ivy]

Good news! You can!

[cursive totem]

man i just built some of my endgame stuff in the titan forest

its a gorgeous landscape but what a b*** to build in

[burnt ferry]

pure quartz and coal for pink diamonds?

[cursive totem]

nah just random bits of stuff

[burnt ferry]

ahh ok... i built a diamondn factory in nuclear forrest 2 days ago 😂

and then connected my train network.. the ride t the next station is longer than the longest track i had before that

[reef basin]

wdym by "ordering"?

[burnt ferry]

when i visited it, my eyes hurt from the green tint and the geiger was ticking all the time

[burnt ferry]

we taked about that

[cursive totem]

this #screenshots message is the current state of things. the red painted stuff are new "shortcut" tracks i want to build next so things can have shorter routes

[burnt ferry]

i can tell although i hav passive aliens.. but just the number of them tells me how much the pain

such statements are one of his worst enemies

[reef basin]

I talked with 1000s of people about 1000s of different things, no offense, but I don't really remember what we talked about 😄

[burnt ferry]

we talked and finished

no need t reiterate

[reef basin]

Alright then, keep your secrets

[burnt ferry]

its no secret.. its all in the conversation you only read 50% of

speaking of knowing it all 😂

[reef basin]

no idea why the aggressive stance, I just saw a ping, replied to a message and didn't understand what do you mean so asked for clarification

no idea where you got the "know it all"

[burnt ferry]

also we concluded by giving props to your tool.. no need to defend

[reef basin]

it's quite literally not about defending tools or me wanting praise or anything. I just want to know what the problem is you're having.

[fierce glen]

#screenshots

[reef basin]

I know current Tools have a lot of issues, I'm trying to not repeat those issues in the future, so getting to know what's annoying/bad/improvable for people is part of why I ask

[crystal siren]

you can just double tap spacebar, no need to put something on it

[fierce glen]

Lemme check

[cursive totem]

in short; persisting the position when moving nodes around beteween calculations

[fierce glen]

Yoooo your smart

[reef basin]

ah fair. Though way more complex issue than many seem to think 🙂 I have some ideas for that for new Tools 😉

[cursive totem]

sounds neat, looking forward to it

[reef basin]

yeah, which is one of many reasons why the feature isn't "easy to add" 🙂

[shy mulch]

just get AI to do it

🧌

😄

[reef basin]

I don't hate you guys THAT much

[real shale]

AI ....

[silk ocean]

Just a little bit xD

[cunning siren]

That Nitro rocket fuel alt makes the build super ez-mode. 4x OC'ed blenders and ~3 refineries = 45 GW /yawn 😆

[grim ermine]

Why cant we just do some cost cutting snd make fused modular frames out of wood 😭

Im sure itd work just as well

[leaden turret]

we already got heat-treated wood.

is charcoal.

[grim ermine]

Charcoal modular frames

[lethal scroll]

hey all, I got a question: can you somehow make it so certain power generators have priority over others? for example:
Lets say you have a coal generator, and a few biomass generators.
I don't want the biomass generators consuming ANY biomass UNLESS power consumption exceeds what the coal generator can produce.
In other words, I want the coal generator to do 100% of the electricity generation, unless demand exceeds its production.
Is there any way to do this?

I want the biomass generators to essentially serve as emergency backup power, but not consume any fuel as long as the coal generator is below capacity

I know batteries exist, but im not at that stage yet

[fierce glen]

There is literally a thing called priority switch

Wait

[fierce glen]

Isnt that just electricity storage

[lethal scroll]

oooh, neat, when/how do I unlock it? I'm currently on tier 4, and my next goal is to actually construct a coal generator

[grim ermine]

Its in the caterium mam tree

[fierce glen]

Catreium tree

[lethal scroll]

oh ic ic

[fierce glen]

Also get organized

[lethal scroll]

I havent built a mam yet prolly should do that first

[grim ermine]

Definitely

[lethal scroll]

wym?

[grim ermine]

Unlock everything as soon as tou can unlock it in the mam

[lethal scroll]

will do yeah

[fierce glen]

Your factory isn't even a noodle is a straight up instant ramen

[lethal scroll]

oh, are you talking about the pic in screenshots? yeah it's all still temporary setup

[fierce glen]

Start using foundations twin 😭

[grim ermine]

Why do you need backup power?

[lethal scroll]

I am, I am, the part of my factory that ISNT on foundations is just the copper wire production, everything else is on foundations. It's just some leftover setup from before I unlocked foundations

[fierce glen]

Because biomass energy is stupid

[grim ermine]

Thats why you use coal

Entirely coal and abolish the biomass

[fierce glen]

That's why he wants to unlock coal generstor

[cunning siren]

<How the snap points for splitters on lifts don't snap to a grid> ReeeeEEEEEEE! 😆

[grim ermine]

He has coal, no?

[lethal scroll]

planning on building coal now, that's the next goal, I need it to get steel for t4

[grim ermine]

Ohh alr

[lethal scroll]

not yet. I've played satisfactory before, but my last time was like, 2-4 years ago

like, I think I last played update 5 or something

[fierce glen]

Can I make a whole factory with water extractors and connect them to 20 coal generators and just share the energy like that

[lethal scroll]

I wanted to hold out on building anything too permanent until I unlock a lot more stuff, so I don't have to re-design too much stuff

every setup I have right now is a temp setup

[grim ermine]

Smart decision

[lethal scroll]

everything will be scrapped

[grim ermine]

The time to start making semi-permanent/long-term stuff (in my opinion) is when you unlock mk2 miner and mk4 belts

[fierce glen]

Can we remove biomass energy

And make smth like solar panels

[grim ermine]

Solar panels defeat the whole purpose of the game

The point of biomass is to sort of push you to progress

[lethal scroll]

posted a few more screenshots in the channel, if you want a better view of my current progress

all the new stuff I build is on foundations

[fierce glen]

Then add smth like water energy

Yk like perpetual motion creating energy with water

[lethal scroll]

the building with the beige walls is concrete production, that area is the most "permanent" out of everything atm

[fierce glen]

Like a wheel where water flows constantly

[lethal scroll]

cuz im buidling it with future scaling in mind

[grim ermine]

Anything automated defeats the point

[fierce glen]

Concrete is easiest to grind lowkey

[fierce glen]

This game goal is automation

[grim ermine]

Yes

You start off without automation which shows how good automation is and pushes you to automate throughout the game

[fierce glen]

I used to mine minerals manually cuz I didint knew abt the mini miner

[lethal scroll]

posted a view from inside the concrete plant

[fierce glen]

Are you planning on killing that big leg girafe whale

[lethal scroll]

nah, not anytime soon at least

it's been there for ages

it got stuck on the roof

[fierce glen]

Id trap it somewhere

[lethal scroll]

I mean, it IS trapped right now, lol

[fierce glen]

And keep it As a friend

[lethal scroll]

on top of the roof

[fierce glen]

No like make him a cage

[lethal scroll]

I can do that, sure, when I have some time to kill. rn, i got some stuff to take care of

1. mam
2. coal
3. steel

what do you think of the lil equipment station?

[grim ermine]

Steel is very fun to make imo since its 1:1 ratio iron to coal

[lethal scroll]

yeah, I've gotten to the end of oil stage before

although I've never completed nuclear stage before

it always required me to rebuild WAY too big of a section of my factory

[grim ermine]

Nuclear is pointless

[lethal scroll]

but, that's why right now im not going to "optimise" my factory yet untill I reach that stage

[grim ermine]

Completely unnecessary

[lethal scroll]

well yeah, but I mean, I've never completed the final stages

[grim ermine]

I haven't either

Im currently tier 6 almost finished phase 3

[lethal scroll]

I have a habit of wanting to make my factory look really nice

[grim ermine]

Same...

[lethal scroll]

so I don't wanna scrap parts that I've "finalized"

thats why rn im holding off on that part until later

hence why my factory looks like a mess, still. it's all still temp stuff waiting to be scrapped.

except for the concrete section, for the most part

[grim ermine]

Mine looked like a mess until i got mk 3 belts

[fierce glen]

Wait until you make a effiecnt aluminum factory

[lethal scroll]

that's the part I never got to

[grim ermine]

Im scared of aluminium

[fierce glen]

Feels impossible

[grim ermine]

Thats sort of my next project

[lethal scroll]

yeah

[fierce glen]

Nuclear power plants easier than aluminium

[lethal scroll]

every time I do a new playthrough, I leave more room for stuff that I know from previous playthroughs I'll need to have room for. Train station, for example.

[grim ermine]

#screenshots message

[lethal scroll]

my first 4 playthroughs I did not account for needing to build a train station, my entire factory was built real close to one another, was difficult to even drive a truck through it

[grim ermine]

This my fuel setup for power

[fierce glen]

On this save I'm at phase 2 and my brain cant comprehend making 1k smart plates and other stuff

[lethal scroll]

oooh that looks nice, I like

[fierce glen]

Looks scary

[grim ermine]

I recommend not automating smart plating, versatile framework

[fierce glen]

Im making factories in GRASLAND

[grim ermine]

Im in the rocky desert

[fierce glen]

Resources aren't that good

Mostly impure or normal

But I got a factory which makes me like 200 screws 100 iron rods and 100 iron plate every minute

[grim ermine]

They're all impure down in the grassy fields

[fierce glen]

Only a pure catreium node

And limestone

[lethal scroll]

I can't believe I just witnessed the AI pronounce mycelia as my-cell-ia

[fierce glen]

🤟🤟🤟

Is everyone there playing on 1.1

[grim ermine]

Yep

[lethal scroll]

i am

latest version, unmodded

[grim ermine]

Over in the rocky desert there is an invisible limestone node that you can still place a miner on it but im scared theyre gonna remove it later so i aint using it

[fierce glen]

I got a save on 1.0 and I keep playing on it

[grim ermine]

I never played 1.0

I played like 40 hours at release and started playing when 1.1 dropped

[fierce glen]

I wanna make a closed factory

Like walls and stuff

But is js weird

Cuz I might do stuff in the future

[grim ermine]

What you gotta do

Is build a big square foundation and if you need more room you build up

And add more floors

And plan to put an elevator in it when you unlock them

[fierce glen]

what i do wit elevators

ill show ya my factories

#screenshots

[south sinew]

wow that's ugly

but here's how I used elevators

[cursive totem]

no factory is ugly

[south sinew]

#screenshots message

this is probably far from optimal but shows the basic idea; just build up

[cursive totem]

holy shit thats insane XD

i love it

[south sinew]

the 200m elevator height limit, limited buttons etc were quite aggravating

I had to use like five elevators and some vertical hypercannons for transit

[fierce glen]

at least inside a noddle

isnt

[south sinew]

It's mostly the pink that I just couldn't stand ;p

[fierce glen]

WHAT PINK

[south sinew]

oh wait

discord just bugged out and didn't actually take me to your message

I looked at somebody else's factory instad

[lethal scroll]

that looks insane, I like it tho

[fierce glen]

hating on me over nun

[grim ermine]

I also ran into this issue so I got the infinite elevator mod

[south sinew]

I wanted to cover the exterior and complete the square for a full Monolith appearance but got lazy

[grim ermine]

I wish I could see your factory but no screenshot are loading for me

OH MY GOD

it just loaded

That is INSANE

[cursive totem]

its so compact

its so efficient

ficsit would be proud for sure

[grim ermine]

I cant imagine how much of a pain in the ass getting all the resources to one place is

[south sinew]

a lot less than you might think, because conveyor holes have infinite reach

[grim ermine]

When I was building mine I ran out of resources in the the rocky desert so instead of moving shit to the factory i built a new factory

I mean from the nodes to the factory

[south sinew]

ah yeah

turns out the south-west ocean just has a lot of nodes that aren't too far away

probably the furthest I had to go was for aluminium

[grim ermine]

What about oil and water ? How'd you get that all the way up

[south sinew]

I'm built on the ocean so just place water etractors underneath and pipe+pump the way up

msot of the water consumption is low down with pure iron/copper/wet concrete

[grim ermine]

That sounds painful

[south sinew]

as for oil it's refined offsite into rubber/plastic

nah it's fine really

[prime jasper]

How good it plutonium fuel unit? It technically consume less plutonium per fuel rod.

But on other hand it means that a plutonium fuel unit recipe will get you rid of less radioactive waste than the regular recipe would. And you end up with less plutonium to deal with.

What is the best way to go? Maximize the amount of waste being produced or increase plutonium fuel rod yield ?

[south sinew]

less annoying than having to go and get another resource node from offsite

[grim ermine]

The higher the yield the better

[cursive totem]

i used somersloops the first time yesterday, to double the amount of turbomotors i get

felt like a good use for it

[grim ermine]

The higher up the crafting tree you use them the more powerful they are

I used a shit ton when automating heavy modular frames

[cursive totem]

oh yeah i see that

i have phase 5 planned out for each project part at 1/minute so i dont need that much of anything now

[grim ermine]

Im planning to make 30 nuclear pasta per minute

[cursive totem]

any reason or just because

[grim ermine]

Why not

[cursive totem]

fair, just asking

[grim ermine]

Fun project

[prime jasper]

By the way what is your crafting tree for heavy modular frame? There is so many things to choose from.

Once you choose your heavy modular frame recipe you can then chose your regular frame recipe and then your reinforced plate etc etc..

It looks like we can do it in so much different ways.

[cursive totem]

my goal is to finish the game primarily now, so 1/m is enough for me haha

[grim ermine]

I would tell you how I did it but Im not at my computer right now. I have it all planned out on excel/satisfactory modeler

[cursive totem]

just my take; i always chose the recipes that minimize the different kind of resources i need. iron pipes, iron wire my beloved

[prime jasper]

We need a "Strongest essentialist Vs weakest nuclear pasta enjoyer" meme.

[prime jasper]

Well if you remember me next time you get on your PC I am interested.

[grim ermine]

I know I used heavy encased frames and stitched reinforced plates

[cursive totem]

stitched plates, cast screws are goated

[grim ermine]

Also cast screws

They are goated

[cursive totem]

also anything to not use coal for steel

prefer using copper over caterium etc

basically, for me, try to use the lowest possible amount of high end resources

[grim ermine]

Thr alts you use really depends on the situation. If you have more of resource A and less kf resource B you wanna minimise the use of resource B

[cursive totem]

make everything from iron and copper because thats basically everywhere

[grim ermine]

Exactly

I built my HMF in the dune desert so i had fuck ton of iron

But little coal

[cursive totem]

theres only a very few recipes that require certain resources

like you cant get around them obviously

but the more you can do from the low tier resources, the better (to me right now at least)

if youre going for peak efficiency that might change ofc

[grim ermine]

I mean if you wanted peak efficiency used use pure iron, copper and wet concrete recipes

[cursive totem]

e.g. im gonna use caterium for trigons, because using aluminum for that is a hassle for me

[grim ermine]

But thats just not worth the effort on smaller projects

[grim ermine]

Anything to use less aluminium is AMAZING to me

I hate aluminium

[cursive totem]

is there a "not" missing? 😄

ah there we go haha

[grim ermine]

Yep 😂

[cursive totem]

i do like aluminmum because its the first loop production which i just think is pretty cool and challenging on a technical level

but yeah in reality its just too valuable to use for too many things

[grim ermine]

I think its definitely a cool concept and challenge but its just soooo much effort on a large scale

[cursive totem]

i think my aluminum production is like 3-4 refineries and thats it haha

[grim ermine]

I always build big

[cursive totem]

just because you need some of it

im pretty streamlined. because otherwise i will lose interest too fast. i just wanna finish the game now 😄

[grim ermine]

People were telling me to make like 2 heavy modular frames/m but i made 40

I used like 3000 iron for heavy modular frames alone

[cursive totem]

large factories are cool. thats why i watch kibitz so i dont have to do it hahaha

[grim ermine]

I love watching kibitz

[cursive totem]

its an unfair comparison ofc, its literally his job and i only have like 3 hours every day to play

[grim ermine]

Yeah

I definitely take a lot of inspiration from his builds

I'd rather build big and it take me months to complete than build small. I can understand people losing interest on long term projects though

[cursive totem]

for that kind of build, to me at least, i would need bigger blueprints / actual copy paste

then i could maybe see doing it

[grim ermine]

I have a ton of blueprints

Makes things a lot easier

[cursive totem]

oh for sure

but real copy paste would be so cool as well

[grim ermine]

In most of my projects the hardest part is building the factory itself and getting the resources on site. The machines are the easiest part