satisfactory

[vestal hill]

that’s why I’m loving my iron wire this playthrough

Stops me from having to ship in copper from the other side of the map

[mortal ginkgo]

i am been a clever pioneer and got all thise recipes in phase 1.

[limpid cairn]

copper powder

[wicked marlin]

does anyone have any ideas what the aliens mean by 'shallows'? it's probably their only word i cant translate

[vestal hill]

YEP

[vestal hill]

shallows probably means not deep water or it’s an idiom for something (like 90% of their speech)

[mortal ginkgo]

caterium is still important tho.

[limpid cairn]

no

[vestal hill]

Well caterium wire has a 120/m rate

[mortal ginkgo]

no u

[mortal ginkgo]

you are still important though ❤️

[wicked marlin]

i dont think they use idiom. they are entierly literal. but their and our concepts are the same, but the words are different.

[vestal hill]

True, idk

[wicked marlin]

sing=communicate, but could mean speach, or machines communicating. any sharing of knowledge

blood is knowledge, but might also mean electricity.

[limpid cairn]

im under the age of 18

[wicked marlin]

they're literal. but i cant figure out what 'shallows' means yet. I havent heard all the strange coms so maybe i'll find out.

[vestal hill]

E ffigies?

[mortal ginkgo]

doesnt make you less important. I am glad you exist.

now go back to growing factory

[mortal ginkgo]

mercer spheres and sloops

[wicked marlin]

are you asking for a translation? or asking if thats literal or not?
because it is literal.

[feral geyser]

Shallows = the edge of the reality they inhabit.

[limpid cairn]

i dont wanna start stuff i cant finish on the same day / session

[wicked marlin]

effigy (occording to siri, who i asked to double check i know the definition) is a model of a person.
the player character is the effigy

[wicked marlin]

no they inhabit the deep.
the call US shallow/in the shallows
that being ADA more than the player of course.

[leaden turret]

Nobody important? Blimey, that's amazing. You know that in nine hundred years of time and space and I've never met anybody who wasn't important before.
The Doctor

[mortal ginkgo]

effigy is ur mom

[feral geyser]

Exactly

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom is in game

[wicked marlin]

technically yes.

[feral geyser]

At the edge of the deep is the shallows

[vestal hill]

Oh I see

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes, the old Doctor seasons were cool. interesting concept but alas.

[feral geyser]

It's like deciphering a Lewis Carroll poem

[wicked marlin]

yes, they're in the deep, we're in the shallows.
i think the 'depth' they refer to is being either outside of reality- or deeper into it. like a simulation.
the more complex and powerful the sim, the 'deeper' you are but im not sure.
they're an accessended race for sure but im not sure if its simulation accessention or eldtrich.

[feral geyser]

I do not buy any theory that relies on us being in a "simulation"

If you say "it's because simulation," i assume the rest of your argument is a joke

[wicked marlin]

i have read none of these. I simply analyze all that i witness.

[feral geyser]

(Except Astroneer because that one is explicit)

[wicked marlin]

1: Rude
2: Not what I said. At all.

[mortal ginkgo]

they are ur mom

[feral geyser]

I calls it like I sees it

[leaden turret]

How doth the little hogodile
Improve his fluffy tail
And pour the waters of Massage
On every golden scale!

How cheerfully he seems to grin,
How neatly he spreads his paws,
And aims for Pioneers now,
With gently smiling charge!

[feral geyser]

I'm a whale biologist

[mortal ginkgo]

whales are cool

this game needs warer wildlife

[feral geyser]

There used to be one

There was a lake shark

[leaden turret]

how are you typing, whales have no fingers

[wicked marlin]

subnautica cross over when

[mortal ginkgo]

i love how "water zone" abdruptly ends if you go slightly far away and you can fall to abyss

[leaden turret]

just play subnautica
~ Official Dev Response

[mortal ginkgo]

WHY DONT WE HAVE IT ANYMORE

[leaden turret]

got removed

[wicked marlin]

thats an example of a lewis carroll poem? what deciphering is needed here? thats quite blatant in what its saying. spoke very pretty tho. i like it.

[feral geyser]

Very not a Lewis Carroll poem

Not enough invented words

[wicked marlin]

I for one am thankful there are no sea life.
because would be hostile.
and im scared of the water.

[leaden turret]

I rewrote The Crocodile by Lewis Carroll to make it a SAtisfactory one.

[wicked marlin]

i recognized it. clever on your part.

[leaden turret]

philosophy is #off-topic-general

[wicked marlin]

we were talking about game lore.
im saying the aliens either accessended to a simulation or outside reality.

[limpid cairn]

the aliens are in the space elevator at the top

#taxficsit

[wicked marlin]

true bruh

[leaden turret]

Twinkle, Twinkle Little Bean
How'd you get to where you're seen!
Up above the world so high,
In my factory in the sky.
Twinkle, Twinkle Little Bean
How'd you get to where you're seen!

[wicked marlin]

cat-toe beans

[agile grotto]

Can dark matter residue be transported via train?

[feral geyser]

technically yeah

fluid cars

[wicked marlin]

lol the aliens flirting with ADA on accident.

man i hate ADA so much your have no idea.
i know how the game ends, i watched videos about it.
im not going to spoil it but If I could kill her in game I just might try.

[leaden turret]

"Beware the Lizard Dog, my son!
The gifts that smite, the nuke you'll catch!
Beware the Inspector Bean, and shun
The frumious Stingercats!"

[mortal ginkgo]

some wants to kill ADA.

i want to romance her.

ahh the duality of men. the constant of constants

[wicked marlin]

now that is peak. stingercats. nice.

[mortal ginkgo]

i confirm. i got 50+ nuclear nobelisks in 170h playtime from 7 doggos

[feral geyser]

We have failed to uphold FICSIT's standards. However, I did make it with a hot A.I. babe. And in the end, is that not what man has dreamt of since first he looked up at the stars??

...Kif, I'm asking you a question.

[mortal ginkgo]

also people missing so much action by making stingers cats.

I still remember the time i jumped towards a stinger that jumped on me and won the fight with a shotgun rebar shot.

I felt the rush. I felt the need.

[wicked marlin]

wait who wasnts to romance the wannabe GLaDOS? wth? shes got no personality.
those same mfs probably do AI 'unrestricted' chat bots.

[mortal ginkgo]

mid air fights are cool

[leaden turret]

🎶 lovein' an ElevADA, FICSinIT up when I'm going down 🎶

[wicked marlin]

I did that once but lost. i was playing client with a friend and the freaks mouth hole was stuck on my screen in highdef for a split second too long as the game realized i was dead.
i cannon stand NOT having them in cat mode because of that. I get flash backs. revolting.

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro is smokin something thats confirmed

[cunning siren]

Some people just like cats that much 🤷

[mortal ginkgo]

you fight fear by exposing yourself further. do the same thing with nuclear obelisk.

prove the point. send the message. kill the killer.

[feral geyser]

The cats are honestly even more nerve-wracking than the stingers themselves

[mortal ginkgo]

also constant meows are scarier imo

[feral geyser]

I love spiders

[cunning siren]

The game needs puppies AND kittens so... 🤷 cats

[feral geyser]

So stingers ain't so bad

[mortal ginkgo]

problem is they are not spiders

[wicked marlin]

I will when I get my hands on one.
i've never gotten far solo.

[mortal ginkgo]

they have human torso

[mortal ginkgo]

get doggos. i got 52 nuclear nobelisks lol

[shy mulch]

We need a large shoe to squish the spiders with, so we can replicate how I do it irl

[mortal ginkgo]

no.

[feral geyser]

They're close enough

[wicked marlin]

its not the spider legs so much as its the uneven gaping ozzing holes.
its gross.

[mortal ginkgo]

no. not even their movement and leg patterns are similar

[wicked marlin]

I agree, Helldivers 2 crossover- we get mechs and they get a competent ground fighter (the pioneer)

[feral geyser]

What would you suggest as a more accurate analog then?

[wicked marlin]

flying roach.

[mortal ginkgo]

thats what makes them scary. there is nothing that makes sense.

the larger versions move exactly like small ones. extremely fast despite the size.

they got a human torso.

they got no mouth but too much eyes.

they got stingers to sting for the sake of stinging anything that they can sting.

hello.

their leg anatomy doesnt make sense, not even the movement

[limpid cairn]

the hello was personal

[wicked marlin]

speaking of roaches, I once saw a quote about how morality has an asthetic on instagram.
because roches are good to kill (because ugly) and butterflies are bad to kill (because pretty) and I was just like "bro wild roaches spread disease and wild butterflies are a sign of a healthy biosphere stfu dumbass"
see, now THAT belongs in off-topic-general

[wicked marlin]

personally I dont think any of them are natural.
I think they're all artifical- originally meant to work on the planet we are now on. their purpose is lost so when we come around they only thing they can do is defend the location.

[mortal ginkgo]

thats why humans are not meant to decide whats morally correct is as than the amount of whats wrong and right can go for millions in number.

in my city people feed cats around. sure they are fluffy and cuddly. and they meow.

but they are invasive species that hunt smaller animals so the amount of birds are now almost close to zero.

I like birds. what am I supposed to feel now?

I like smol birds too...

[viscid rune]

I'd say that morality feeds the aesthetic, but isn't driven by it, if that was a take to be made.

[mortal ginkgo]

i think they are natural and most of them look like come from the fauna, like some animals looking or similar to.

but then this games environment doesnt make sense so...

its just a game at that point

[wicked marlin]

you can feel both love for the cats and sorrow for the birds.
ideally your local and/or federal goverment would work on safetly capturing all the cats and releasing them some where they're meant to be.
but they wont unless your whole county/country forces them too.

[mortal ginkgo]

my country is not that clever.

we are not even pass the phase 1 at elevator

so yeah

[viscid rune]

real

[feral geyser]

Hmm, so you're saying humans attach greater moral value to organisms that are familiar/cute to them? Color me surprised

[wicked marlin]

long story short im very VERY sure this planet is artifical, or has been massively altered by the aliens.
they dont use machines like we do. they used biological machinery.

[limpid cairn]

they use ficsit pioneers in hamsterwheels to produce energy

[viscid rune]

I'd say it's recovering from prior (or current) alien occupation.

[mortal ginkgo]

mostly the ones that can give affection back so the lonely women can feel better about themselves.

I mean, I am happy with my computer. Cant blame that on me

[limpid cairn]

wait i might be onto something

[viscid rune]

One thing I suspect is that SAM is

[wicked marlin]

tldr'er- the entire planet has been converted into a biological machine for resource harvesting and production. the aliens transcened physical reality and since abandoned the planet.
sloops were the power production, spheres the storage system.
the animals are mutli functional.

[mortal ginkgo]

alteration is indeed happening as we can see the weird long lines of ground going around making zero sense.

its not the aliens deep beneath changed the environment but doesnt know what to do with it.

i mean, what is the purpose of beans? they dont make sense as kuch as stingers

[wicked marlin]

beans?

https://tenor.com/view/beans-its-beans-beans-in-computer-gif-21443291

[mortal ginkgo]

so I got an idea that focsit actually terraforms a planet before harvesting it. alien matter makes it very fast etc

[wicked marlin]

mfw epic inmbed fail

[mortal ginkgo]

this is a safe space discord brotherman.

[wicked marlin]

maybe but that makes no sense.
they probably WILL do that after this game but for now that just seems bizzare.

[mortal ginkgo]

brother we got flying foundations. it doesnt have to be

it is a sandbox game and i care too little about such games

[feral geyser]

The big curvy structures = "ɓòn̈ęś"

[wicked marlin]

that a gameplay mechanic- or maybe the game is a game in the game, and thats a simulation error.

[mortal ginkgo]

no those curves belong to ur mom can confirm 100%

[wicked marlin]

10k ton skeleton mom ribgs poking out the ground

[mortal ginkgo]

"its a simulation" is as boring as "multiverse" or "timeloops" for me so... meh.

imma go slep.

[feral geyser]

Hence my comment earlier

[wicked marlin]

i dont like the idea the player is in a sim. but its technically possible given some minor details.

but i reject it on the same grounds i reject the fnaf dream theory.
thatd be boring as hell

[mortal ginkgo]

whatever answers something by dodging every kind of other possibilty is meh to me.

imagine Elden Ring being a simulation to find a King and anything that happened so far has no value as it was just to test someone etc etc

[mortal ginkgo]

I see no details minor and all major details i see are belonging to UR MOM LOL GOTEM GOOD BRO AYAYAYAYAYAYA

i go slep now.

[wicked marlin]

matpat was fr stupid to ever bring it up.
hes a normal dude, not a 'tism man. he donest really know the fnaf lore. never did.

[tall root]

Just now noticed that under the right conditions, the rifle can switch back and forth between different LODs and it's really unsettling

[wicked marlin]

not dising the man just saying

[wicked marlin]

well thats gross. how do you get that to happen?

[tall root]

Not certain, let me get a quick video to show y'all

[mortal ginkgo]

overheating GPU, meh GPU, not strong GPU etc

[tall root]

None of those, it's not a vram issue

[half cove]

Why does the cyberwagon only turn right?

[tall root]

The game can just be a little wonky with handheld items

[mortal ginkgo]

because politics.

[half cove]

I KNEW IT!

[mortal ginkgo]

not for me so I assume.... anyway.. I go slep.

bai everyone. grow factory. pls. blz.

[wicked marlin]

because its a bad design irl so they made even more fun of it in the game.
i vaugly remember it use to be usable- but they made it even worse because politics.
im neither right nor left nor centrist. I am outside that system.
but this is off topic.

[half cove]

sorry I didn't know where to ask

[feral geyser]

Because it's not an ambi-turner

[wicked marlin]

no no, this is the correct place to ask.

[tall root]

Looks exactly like this ingame #off-topic-media message

[feral geyser]

(Name the movie reference)

[sullen gull]

Zoolander

[wicked marlin]

just reread the rules and i cant make gay jokes or i have to use even more screws ._.

[royal spade]

I love that

[wicked marlin]

yeah that gross. probably the game trying to run good and getting confused. i dont know the technicals.

[tall root]

Indeed

[wicked marlin]

i dont. obvious sarcasm is my love language. im not allowed to express my... appriciation for some people without things getting... screwy
it's whatever tho. i get that not everyone likes to play with sharp words.

[cunning siren]

I am Sam. I am Sam. Sam-I-Am. - Green Eggs and Ham - Dr. Seuss

First time seeing that bauxite is ||all in the middle of the map ||🤔

[vocal wolf]

i wish they would make objects yeetable

like
if the dropped items had pyshics and stuff

[hexed plume]

Any tips for getting a fuel generator setup working correctly? I have 600/ turbo fuel going into a mk2 pipe and feeding 80 generators (600 fuel/m divided by 7.5 turbo fuel per gen = 80 generators) but only about 60 of those generators are running at 100%. and I can see that 4-6 refineries arent running at 100% either. no its not a feed problem, they are all full of turbo fuel. I can also confirm there are no mk1 pipes somewhere because ive seen the flow rate go above 500 at rare times. no headlift problems, ive tried valves, tanks, more pumps... nothing is helping. I am on a server (I am the host)

[vocal wolf]

it would be so funny to just have 3 thousand screws in a pit

[feral geyser]

Prefill pipes, and in the future, avoid running at pipe limit.

[nocturne condor]

is there anyway to sort the dimesional depot in your inventory area? or is it search/scroll only? as i hate the order this stuff is in due to the order i uplaoded it

[hexed plume]

so would it be better to split the pipes into two mk2 pipes with 300/m per?

Split as in 16 refineries in one pipe and 16 in another instead of my current 32 into one pipe

[feral geyser]

Yes, probably so.

[feral geyser]

No way to sort it, just use pins for important things

[nocturne condor]

so another question, how does auto pilot work? im thinking about setting up an auto pilote explorer to and from some of my most traveled destions so i can just you know, hop in and go. do i need to like set up diffrent paths for back and forth? have a specific building like a truck stop? or do i just set it up and drive the path?

[zenith fractal]

this game has taught me that trains are sacred things

one must worship the train. build the trains. be one with the trains.

[feral geyser]

When you are in the driver's seat, vehicles won't auto-drive. You have to set auto pilot then get out of them for them to drive.

You can set one to AP then stand on top of it.

Explorers are fun to drive anyway

[nocturne condor]

;-; yeah i figured this out the hard way after setting up the path

its time. phase 2 is complete

[hexed plume]

yeah that worked... now I just have to adjust my other 240 generators lol

[surreal meteor]

Are certain alternate recipes rarer than others? I scanned a ton of hard drives and still haven't seen heavy encased frames.

[hexed plume]

are encased frames unlocked?

[surreal meteor]

Yes (if you mean heavy modular frames)

[hexed plume]

then its just luck of the draw, I spent way too long trying to get steel screws lol

[surreal meteor]

Meanwhile I got flexible framework and steamed copper sheets at least 3 times

[cursive crane]

This is what hypertubes are for.

Using the wrong thing for the worst purpose

[hard ivy]

No, all have a 1/n chance of appearing, where n is the number of recipes that can appear at the time you start scanning the drive

If you want to get a specific recipe faster, you need to decrease n

A scanned but not claimed drive removes 2 recipes from the pool, as opposed to claiming the drive, which removes one but puts the other one back in

[surreal meteor]

I found out that if you save and load a game, the rescan options for a hard drive change

[hard ivy]

The first 2 recipes are chosen when you start scanning the drive, not when it finishes scanning, but yeah, the next 2 are only chosen when you press rescan

[nocturne condor]

I have never used a hyper tube before, i assumed they were like short lenght things meant for more getting around a factory or something

[surreal meteor]

Saving and loading to refresh rescan options is giving me flashbacks of trying to get mending from librarians in Minecraft

YOOO I GOT HEAVY ENCASED FRAMES FINALLY

[surreal meteor]

What fuel should I use for drones in Phase 4?

[lunar ravine]

I have forced myself to learn to use smart and programmable splitters just so i could make a new distro center (Dubbed FedEx). I can respect them and appreciate them now.

[grim ermine]

MK4 belts soon then

[steady glade]

depends how much effort you wanna put in

[grim ermine]

Ionised

[steady glade]

you can start with fuel or coal if you dont use it for now

ionised is best for extra speed boost

you could also use fuel rods but its also a ways away

[grim ermine]

Can you use ficsonium fuel rods for drones?

[spark ruin]

Or a fuel rod

[clever stone]

Good evening chat

Finally set up some simple trains

My factory is far from optimized but I’m planning my first playthrough to be just for fun and then a second advanced settings playthrough to better learn optimization

It’s actually pretty exciting setting those trains up because my factory has like most of the important mid-game materials being made in areas scattered across my main base so having something to consolidate them into one area for processing is so great

[silk ocean]

Trains are exciting. Drones are disappointment xD

[hard ivy]

You can't put coal in drones

[grim ermine]

I just set up my first train and I love it

[clever stone]

Same I’ve got two trains rn, one running a quickwire transfer for my computer parts and another for quartz delivery

Gonna make a third train to my oil pumps so I can start expanding there

[cursive crane]

Look up dortamurs hobbies hypertube series on youtube. Lots of good info [junctions are outdated now though, they added a building piece for it.]

I use them to travel all over the map, combined with logistical towers. They are fun.
Towers and cannon
#screenshots message
#screenshots message

With a proper cannon setup you can be anywhere in the map in like 15-30s. A bit of time investment to set it all up thats saves you sooo much later

[If you dont know what a hypertube cannon is, def need to learn that.]

[unkempt blade]

it's obvious that it's a cannon that shoots hypertubes

[cursive crane]

The physics engine would cry

[unkempt blade]

let it cry, we're out here gaming

[silk ocean]

We're out here factory carting

[cunning glade]

Chat finally hoping on

I've been meaning too for like an hour or 2 but my ADHD has been like let's just think about factory and not actually play it

[cunning siren]

Mah hoverpack just decided to not work for no reason 😆. Was like... nope 🤷 WTF?

[cursive crane]

Out of power?

No poles nearby?
Not enough power?

[silk ocean]

tbh from my friends that have ADHD, it's a gift. They have amazing abilities to instantly memorise maps and plans, it's amazing

[cunning siren]

Nope all that is good

Super odd, still happening

[cursive crane]

Screenshot power graph

Is it a certain spot?

[silk ocean]

Hoverpack is sometimes a bit trixie

Like building rail, delete a rail, loses power for no logical reason and can take multiple seconds to redevelop

Even though sitting on a powered rail, hoverpack has no power for a while

[versed mesa]

👋

[cunning siren]

Yea was odd never happend before 🤔 🤷

[versed mesa]

@cunning siren how are you friend ?

[silk ocean]

You're supposed to be procrastinating not typing XD

[shy mulch]

I hate using satnav when driving. If I'm going somewhere I'm not familiar with I look up the route before I leave and just kinda remember it

[versed mesa]

Lol

[tame violet]

[silk ocean]

I do the same but I don't deny that without GNSS and a computer, I am instantly lost XD

[cunning glade]

Different for everyone

There are some benefits sure but a lot of downsides

Like for me my brain doesn't really work unless I take basically meth

[silk ocean]

It's different for everyone yea, that is true

Whatever works man

[cunning glade]

Indeed doesn't really work but that's ur options for adhd

[silk ocean]

What about something that mellows you out, or does it space you out, like weed

[cunning glade]

Oh weed is great I already smoke it feels just like Adderall except doesn't last as long now atleast

And makes me hungry

Unfortunately if life goes how I want it I'll probs have too stop smoking

[silk ocean]

I swear everyone in this town smokes it, I go for walks and I'm always smelling it xD

[cunning glade]

As government welders or underwater welders prolly get drug tested

[cunning glade]

I love smelling weed out in public

[shy mulch]

I can tell when it's delivery day. My neighbour is a heavy user and the small definitely carries 🤣

[cunning glade]

I love being able too get it delivered I've started doing that more

[silk ocean]

Why is even still illegal in the UK, stupid UK. It's not like anyone cares, I doubt even the police give AF

[peak wasp]

They don't, imo, just make it legal but tax the hell out of it

[silk ocean]

Yea, they are missing a trick

[peak wasp]

However, they still get money through money laundering

[silk ocean]

They have to get it from somewhere yep

[peak wasp]

So if they make it legal they may even lose money on it

[silk ocean]

Possibly xD

Where I used to live in a large appartment complex, there was a known dealer in one of the "affordable housing" flats... The police knew. Everyone knew. But nobody cared

[peak wasp]

Yup, police can't be bothered with doing their jobs and the government would lose out on tax.

[silk ocean]

I remember chatting with the police about something else, came onto that topic, they knew but he wasn't causing any trouble so they didn't want to rock the boat xD

It's sensible policing, applying discretion, etc

And yea, if it makes money for the gov, quietly ignore xD

[cunning glade]

Hoping I make my platform big enough for this factory

[silk ocean]

General rule - whatever you think is big enough.. multiply it by 3 xD

[cunning glade]

Fair

[silk ocean]

It's a bit like ElonTime - whatever Elon says, like Mars in 3 years... multiply by 3 xD

[cunning glade]

Uhhh it might fit

Although I may be dumb

[silk ocean]

x4

[cunning glade]

Or wait no maybe I'm not

[frozen shoal]

188M p/minute being dumped into the sink.

[cunning glade]

1 Sulfur station 1 coal station and then 5 for bauxite I think

And then we need too just make sure I get the right amount of belts from them

I think

[silk ocean]

lil'bit of an overflow xD

[cunning glade]

Normally u can do multiple nodes a train station right

Cuz I may need another coal one

[hard ivy]

As someone with ADHD, I can say it's almost definitely not thanks to ADHD. Because I can't remember maps or plans for shit

[frozen shoal]

it capped out at 230Mil lmao

[cunning glade]

Why do freight stations always switch sides when building them so annoying

[silk ocean]

I guess it comes in different forms, but I still view it as a gift

[cunning glade]

Its not a gift

[silk ocean]

It's like an enhancement of the mind, the brain, in various forms

[frozen shoal]

here's a fun fact. the average pereson has some sort of ADHD

ADHD is a very broad and wide spectrum

[silk ocean]

It's very broad spectrum, OCD as well, I view that as a good thing

[frozen shoal]

wrong

OCD is rare and very small spectrum

OCPD is more common and there's a big difference between the two.

[silk ocean]

I have a degree of OCD, and it results in cleaning things very well, checking things, etc

[frozen shoal]

the average person gets ocd and ocpd mixed up

[frozen shoal]

that's OCPD not OCD

[silk ocean]

Building a perfect PC, that wire must be straight, etc

[frozen shoal]

that's also OCPD

[silk ocean]

Fair

[frozen shoal]

my wife is a LPC

we own a clinic. so mental health is our specialty.

is anyone elses shop broken and takes 0 tickets to buy anything?

[silk ocean]

So OCPD is like I know there is a wire that isn't perfect, even though it's closed inside the PC chassis, can't see it, but I know it's not right

[cunning glade]

Me with this damn game

[faint jacinth]

Bro satisfactory just went up 10 gb on xbox the game is almost here yay

[frozen shoal]

people still console game in 2025?

[cunning glade]

Consoles are amazing yes

[silk ocean]

Don't get me ragin' about consoles again, I need alcohol for that XD

[faint jacinth]

Lol

[frozen shoal]

lmao, or a dab.

[frozen shoal]

amazing target practice. I agree.

[faint jacinth]

My pc broke so console is like the best thing now

[frozen shoal]

what broke?

unless it's the GPU it's a cheap fix.

[faint jacinth]

No broke as in house fire

[frozen shoal]

oh fuck. sorry to hear that man

[faint jacinth]

Thing went 🔥

[cunning glade]

Consoles are amazing for an all in one thing but PC is better for gaming but both do gaming. Great

[silk ocean]

HOUSE FIRE?? like the whole house burned down?

How did the console survive

[frozen shoal]

it was the only thing he grabbed duh

[cursive totem]

the more i get to the endgame, the more i wish the in game map would actually show structures so i could plan more easily 😭

[shy mulch]

use SCIM

[faint jacinth]

Not the whole house and console is cheap init

[cursive totem]

i do but its always an external thing and need to manually update etc

[silk ocean]

Grab teh console... don't think about grabbing the more important PC.. grab that console and RUN!

[faint jacinth]

I bought the console lol

Not grabbed it

[frozen shoal]

you can tuck a console like a football, good luck with a pc and running.

[faint jacinth]

Fair

[frozen shoal]

I'd have ot let everytyhing burn to save my dog

fucker cost 75K lmao

[hard ivy]

SCIM or Cartograph mod

[faint jacinth]

Lol fr my dog was outside with us soooo lucky

[shy mulch]

I need to go hunting for sloooops

[cursive totem]

yeah it just found cartograph. im playing vanilla now for achievements tho, but next time thats definitely on my list

[cunning glade]

Okay I may need a wider longer platform

Train stations are wide

[frozen shoal]

well glad you weren't seriously injured

[hard ivy]

Mods don't disable achievements iirc

[cursive totem]

oh?

[cunning glade]

This is correct

[frozen shoal]

4 foundation blocks is the width

[faint jacinth]

Eh it is what it is yk

[frozen shoal]

yes they do. it states it when u enable them

[cunning glade]

It in fact doesn't

[shy mulch]

are you thinking of AGS?

[cunning glade]

I have mods and still get them

[silk ocean]

Don't you have, oh I dunno, insurance about the entire house burning down

Like get a newer PC etc

[cunning glade]

Okay chat

Does coated concrete foundation cause crashes

[frozen shoal]

insurances take for ever to pay out on things like fires/natual disasters. it's bs

[faint jacinth]

I had more worries then a newer PC lol

[cunning glade]

I have played for near 200h on this save not a single crash

[shy mulch]

in what country? in the uk it's generally very fast

[silk ocean]

Gotcha, so while waiting you have to get a console

[cunning glade]

Building something in the rocky with them and now Ive crashed twice

[silk ocean]

or the one you ran out of the house with under arm

[cunning glade]

Ig I'll turn autosave back on😔

[faint jacinth]

Omg 😭 no one grabbed a console on the way out ?

[silk ocean]

xD

[cunning glade]

Well now I'm gonna deadlock

Fuck this game

[silk ocean]

It's just my imaginary image of the fire, grab teh things! grab teh console! RUN!

[frozen shoal]

@silk ocean tbh I 'd let it all burn too, only thing im saving is my dab. the rest is replacable with insurance when it pays.

[silk ocean]

I'd let the console burn yep XD

[frozen shoal]

renters insurance though pays out quick and doesn't require any proof of purchases, they payout on good faith.

youjust have to send in pics of the stuff you put on the claim

[cunning glade]

I've built a new foundation out of them and both times I have within 30 mins I've crashed

I've never crashed before

[faint jacinth]

Lol its like that one game you have 30 seconds to grab things before the nuclear fallout idk the name

[cunning glade]

I can send the log or whatever

[frozen shoal]

Ih aven't crashed but once since I stopped using dx12 and switched to valkin

[cunning glade]

I haven't had any issues with crashing

[hard ivy]

I don't use anything other than default foundations so idk but I've never heard of coated foundations causing crashes

[cunning glade]

I've now crashed twice trying too build this

I'll turn autosave back on

But I dont wanna

[cunning glade]

This is my assumption cuz it's the only thing that's been added

Each time I crashed it was right after adding them

I've left my game open for hours before this not a single crash

[shy mulch]

cloud backups of anything you want to keep, don't store any data locally
beyond that, anything else can be replaced

[cunning glade]

Oh well I'm gonna go burn people alive in deadlock because of this

[shy mulch]

if there's a fire in your home, grab living things first, pets etc., and personal/sentimental items next, photos etc

[cunning glade]

I need too get things that block underneath my bed

I have cats and that's the worst place for them too be incase of a fire

[shy mulch]

put the cats in dimentional depot, take them out once you're safely away from the fire

[cunning glade]

I really need too start using thoose

I'm making aluminum and I have dd and no power Aug lol

[shy mulch]

once you start using them you'll never look back, and you'll hate that you didn't embrace them earlier

how many mercer spheres do you have and how far down the research are you for them?

[cunning glade]

I didn't realize how many u got

I joined a save from someone and they had one for every item

I thought they were more limited

[shy mulch]

there's loads

there's almost 300 available and you only need about 100 for research

[cunning glade]

Oh

[shy mulch]

so you can end up with almost 200 depots

[cunning glade]

No clue

[shy mulch]

first ones you want to set up are materials that you use a lot in building, such as concrete

get a concrete belt feeding into a depot, then when you're building stuff you don't need to carry concrete any more, it'll just take it straight from the depot as you build

[silk ocean]

Rush the Dimensional Depot and get rid of inventory xD

Need a few things in inventory like filters but basically eliminate it from your life

[cunning glade]

Oh I pray for the deadlock gods too give me good teammates

I will do it soon

Hopefully

[shy mulch]

Also a good tip for first time depot enjoyers, place a storage first, let that fill up, and have the storage feed into the depot. So if you use all the resources in the depot the storage will fill it back up quickly, you don't need to wait for production

[cunning glade]

I mean dd are like blueprints

I should also have made some bps by now

[shy mulch]

If you do something with more than a couple of parts, and you repeat that more than 3 times, then it's worth putting into a blueprint

That's the way I look at it anyway

[silk ocean]

I've decided, of all the bad connectors in my life (cough cough Micro USB) that 12VHPWR is the worst connector of all time

It's horrendous

[shy mulch]

For me it's the pipe leading from my boiler into the radiators. Horrible.

[reef basin]

SCART is a strong contender... it was wider than 99% of cable holes on TV shelves

[silk ocean]

Sounds bad xD

[shy mulch]

SCART was the standard for a long time. I'd blame the people who knew that and still decided to make the holes too small

[silk ocean]

At least SCART actually fitted

12VHPWR is just floating in a soup of bullshit

[reef basin]

but you needed a handsaw to connect it 😄

[hard ivy]

You know what's worse than micro USB? Micro USB designed to fit both ways

[silk ocean]

Oh god xD this sounds like a nightmare doubled up lol

[reef basin]

even worse is microusb designed no not fit in any way

[shy mulch]

Imagine going back to 1985 and demoing a smartphone that can stream to bluetooth headphones or a smart TV. Heads would explode

I love USB C that just does everything now. My work laptop is connected via USB C to an external monitor, I was planning to just use it as a screen, turns out it's like hey, want me to charge the laptop while I'm at it? Sure ok

[hard ivy]

What sucks is that it's often difficult to tell what features a port/cable supports

[ashen belfry]

There is no PD strong enough to charge my laptop

[limpid cairn]

Imagine going back into 1985 and showing them any kind of new tech stuff

[silk ocean]

Zatie's Worst Connectors of All Time List:

1. 12VHPWR
2. Micro USB
3. SCART
4. USB flip it like revealing a quark. Try, flip, back and it works
5. USB B-mini hell
   xD

[limpid cairn]

Like, a 4mb storage device was like as big as 4 tall guys

Now we have 4tb ssd that are as small as my finger nails

[limpid cairn]

Realise how the list has mainly USB connections ?

[silk ocean]

Seeing a trend here ---> looks at USB Consortium

C is pretty good, albeit expensive to manufacture

[hard ivy]

USB PD can do 240W now

[shy mulch]

I want to invent a USB C controller that doesn't work regardless of orientation, until you have connected and disconnected it 3 times in a row, turning it round each time

[silk ocean]

USB C and PD is pretty awesome tbh

[limpid cairn]

That’s prob possible lol 😆

[silk ocean]

When negotiating like 12 or 20V over USB C, it's good

[limpid cairn]

What even is usb pd

[silk ocean]

It's a standard, Power Delivery, can't be doing stuff over 5V anymore

[severe sun]

So i just started and finished automating copper wire, concrete, steel plates and tubes/rods, should I focus on the space elevator or should I try upgrading/unlocking certain upgrades in the HUB?

[limpid cairn]

Space elevator

[ashen belfry]

I need 330 W

[silk ocean]

USB negotiated* PD can do like up to 100W of power delivery, something like that

[hard ivy]

Your laptop can do 330. Does it need 330? Doubt it. Might lose some performance though

[shy mulch]

Set up stuff to automate what the space elevator needs, then while you wait for it to produce everything, you can look at the hub and MAM and try to do the other things. The more of those you can do as you go along the easier the space elevator parts production will be

[limpid cairn]

why not plug a cable into your laptop that can handle 1250w?

Would fix all the issues

[ashen belfry]

Yes. It needs it. 175W GPU
CPU Short time 157W, longtime 140W

[shy mulch]

1250W for a laptop is obscene

[silk ocean]

1250W is more than my workstation.. AND monitors

[shy mulch]

btw, might I make a suggestion
----> #off-topic-tech

[silk ocean]

Meh xD

[hard ivy]

Yeah, just plug a C13 straight into the back

[silk ocean]

All of this chat is very relevant to Satisfactory. It runs on a PC. PC runs on electricity. electricity runs on powerplant. powerplant runs on satisfactory players. satisfactory players run on food. food runs on farmers. farmers run on satisfactory. the cycle of factory-life continues.

[ashen belfry]

And don't forget. Machines inside your factory use real energy

[silk ocean]

Yes

[limpid cairn]

Wait, you actually got a point

[silk ocean]

I have an open enough mind to accept most points xD

I am prepared to accept that a machine in the game produces real energy

[reef basin]

machine in the game uses real energy

[limpid cairn]

Snap dragon have the best cpus on the market

[silk ocean]

I can get onboard with that... don't worry, I'm not a flat-eather xD

[silk ocean]

Kinda does xD

[reef basin]

I know, that's why I said it

[silk ocean]

Deploy a machine in Satisfac, it's using CPU cycles, which means more real world energy

[ashen belfry]

And my PC runs on the older standard. Which is 120W.
Which might be enough for the

[silk ocean]

Erm xD Snap is just packaged ARM SOC, albeit very good

[ashen belfry]

And another thing.
Plug a TEC on top of your CPU. Ice on the other side. And voila. You playing Satisfactory produces energy. Might be enough to charge your phone.

[limpid cairn]

Kinda off topic but mind if I ask what programming language you use mostly and what IDE/text editor you use mainly since you have .dev in your name ?

[ashen belfry]

That's definitely off topic

[silk ocean]

VScode

[reef basin]

mostly PHP, though I do work a lot with javascript/typescript and most other web-based technologies

as for IDE, VSCode is shit, JetBrains IDEs all the way (so PhpStorm for me)

[silk ocean]

Seeing as I am mostly a bash and PHP peasant, I use the PHP interpreter aligned with my server(s), 8.3.x atm

[limpid cairn]

Never met people who can understand php

[reef basin]

hi there

[silk ocean]

Hai!

[limpid cairn]

It feels like PHP died out to me icl

[silk ocean]

No wai... PHP is aweseome, powerful, used everywhere, with FPM you can script and execute on the commandline

[limpid cairn]

Might be awesome still haven’t met a single one who uses it besides you and greeny

[silk ocean]

It's not like Python. It's actually pretty fast xD relatively

[reef basin]

and 80% of the internet

[limpid cairn]

Isnt python fast if you use libraries written in c?

[silk ocean]

Maybe faster, but I've never seen a fast Python program, useful for crontab jobs and so forth

It's one of the slowest interpreted languages I have seen

[limpid cairn]

Isn’t the current ai stuff written in python?

[silk ocean]

I frickin hope not

[limpid cairn]

😆

[silk ocean]

It will be written in C, the best language of all time

[true mulch]

Python is terribly slow, but performance isn't the only factor of a program

[silk ocean]

You think they are going to be wasting resources writing in Python? Are you crazy xD The core LLMs will be written in C

[true mulch]

You're thinking of the wrappers, which expose an API to python. The underlying neural network or whatever definitely uses something faster like C

[limpid cairn]

C is great but imo I like c++ more

[hard ivy]

A lot of people use PyTorch to do their AI stuff, but Torch itself is definitely not written in Python lol

[silk ocean]

C or C++ both are acceptable, OO is cool as long as you deal with destruction

[true mulch]

C is fine but I worry about memory management too much and that's not fun

[cosmic adder]

Guys, shall i buy staisfactory? Is ir satisfying to play?

[limpid cairn]

Yes

[hard ivy]

Absolutely

[cosmic adder]

Good

I will, so yall qill need to teach me later on

[limpid cairn]

We all combined in the chat rn have 20k hours combined

[silk ocean]

They will be written in C with ASM for the hardware specific bits, I can pretty much say that

[cosmic adder]

Could have been more

[silk ocean]

It would be insane not to

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory is best learned by yourself and only get small tips from others

[cosmic adder]

I see, so no YT beginner guides?

[limpid cairn]

Get some small advice early from YouTube

Like build on foundations etc etc

but not much

[cosmic adder]

I see i see

[limpid cairn]

You will need YouTube and us as soon as you unlock fluids tho 😆

[cosmic adder]

Yeah, well, i still need to download game

Since its on sale i had to buy it, and postpone ready or not

[silk ocean]

It's not a big task on gigabit fiber

Like a 3 minute download xD

[cosmic adder]

My internet will take hour

[limpid cairn]

if you have giga bit fiber tho

[cosmic adder]

Nope

There is no ethernet cable going anywhere near my house..so i cannot get fast

[silk ocean]

What you got like DSL.. like xDSL asymmetric like 13.7Mbps downstream channel width

[limpid cairn]

My internet is a pure coinflip I either have 100kb/s download speed or 1gb/s download speed 😆

[shy mulch]

You don't need beginner guides. The tutorial ingame is excellent. Just read everything, explore, be curious, and you'll pick up all you need

[cosmic adder]

Mine is usually 50mbs

[silk ocean]

100 kilobits or 1 gigabit. That's a bit of a range

[limpid cairn]

My internet is kinda shitty 😭

Legit when im playing games I can’t upload images without my WiFi dying

[silk ocean]

I noticed. get a better solution

[cosmic adder]

Okay! Didnt know it had

[limpid cairn]

not that easy I’m in the most tech behind country in Europe

[cosmic adder]

Whaaaa..i thought mine was slow

[silk ocean]

Probably more advanced than the UK xD

[limpid cairn]

Germany

[silk ocean]

Jesus, yea no excuses. Get something better

Meanwhile in the powerhouse of europe...
"OH my internetz sucks.. I get 100 kilobits and sometimes 1 gigabit"
What do I do in the wealthiest country in Europe
My life sux xD

[cunning glade]

okay reverified files one was missing

[silk ocean]

Move to a better ISP xD

If your ISP doesn't have local support, a static v4 and a static v6 delegation, no external tomfuckery like firewalling etc, then move to one that actually does

[cunning glade]

i crashed again cool

[silk ocean]

mods?

[solid storm]

When using a controller, how do you go left or right with a Hypertube Branch? I tried both the thumbsticks and the directional buttons without success?

[reef basin]

doesn't it use E or something normally? afaik you don't use arrow keys or AD keys either with keyboard

[solid storm]

I'm using a controller though.....is there no way to do it with that?

[reef basin]

I'd say controller's alternative to E or whatever key it is normally

[solid storm]

Not sure what E corresponds to on a controller.

[cunning glade]

Okay I'm 10 mins in no crash so far

I'm thinking it was the foundations tbh

[hard ivy]

E on KB+M is used to open machines etc. The main interact key

[solid storm]

Hmm, would be X then, but I tried that and still doesn't work on a hypertube branch?

[hard ivy]

When approaching the branch does it not say which key switches direction?

[cunning glade]

Fatal error: [File:D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectArray.cpp] [Line: 534] Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded when trying to add 1 object(s), make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor/MaxObjectsInProgram in project settings.
this is the error i get

[hard ivy]

Oh, that's the max UObject error lol

It has nothing to do with whatever foundation you were using

Or at least not specifically

[cunning glade]

i see what is causing it

[hard ivy]

You have too much stuff in your world

[cunning glade]

what

[solid storm]

It says nothing when approaching it?

[cunning glade]

ive seen worlds way bigger tho

[hard ivy]

Or at least within render distance when it happens (I think only rendered objects count? Or count as less objects when unrendered?)

[hard ivy]

You can increase the limit in config. At the risk of having more severe crashes (RAM issues or whatever)

[silk ocean]

Spin it up with wolveix docker xD

[cunning glade]

my worlds not even that big wack

but ight

[silk ocean]

MAXOBJECTS = 2162688

Looks like a signed 32-bit integer, either way, good luck hitting that

[reef basin]

it's not about size or number of machines, it's about number of UObjects

[hard ivy]

Certain buildables count as multiple UObjects. So if you have a lot of decorations, you'd have a lot less actual production when you hit that limit than someone who doesn't decorate

[cunning glade]

whats uobjects

like all buildables?

[hard ivy]

Unreal Engine Objects. The things that are actually limited

Everything buildable is at least one UObject iirc

Items on belts might even be ones as well, but idk about that

Foundations and other non-funcional, non-interactible buildables should all be 1 UObject

But a machine is probably several

[silk ocean]

Supposedly all the assets are being converted to Nanite, not sure how many. The entire world needs to be

[hard ivy]

Also, I've seen this number fluctuate when moving around the world, so things farther away might not count or count as fewer objects than when you're close

[reef basin]

back in time, every IO port, every snap point, things like that were also UObjects. Since then they said they optimised them, so it may not be true anymore

[silk ocean]

Yea well we're not in the 1990s anymore greeny

[reef basin]

that was two years back

or three maybe

[silk ocean]

Ancient history

We're living in a world now where you do the pre-process, like MSAA, SMAA, it's screen sampling where your GPU does the actual work... then you pipe it into what we considered to be post-process like TXAA, which is arguably temporal, or into fast approximates like FXAA

[reef basin]

that's graphics though, UObjects are not about graphics

[silk ocean]

True, that is about assets, loading and rendering

[reef basin]

UObjects are just fancier objects in code

[silk ocean]

Video games, just like the Linux Kernel, are written in C/C++/ASM. Anything above that is bread and butter. If you want to write a program that performs well, and optimization is a huge part of it, like literally drilliing down to how the actual silicon works, these are the skills you need

[reef basin]

everything is practically ASM

[versed mesa]

Does anyone know if I can make the writing bigger with options settings and clear because its really hard to see it even sitting on my sofa ive needed to get close up to the screen to see what things say inthere ?

[silk ocean]

No, most stuff of importance is written in C with embedded ASM

[reef basin]

C is then copiled to ASM which is compiled to machine code

hence why practically

[silk ocean]

Of course it's compiled, but with hardware-specific stuff you don't compile, you pragma it

It's ASM that gets directly written into the binary, no complile, it's pragma code

You don't even run it through the linker

[cunning glade]

Okay it's fixed

I am using an extra 5gigs of mem tho

As long as it doesn't use 7 more technically 8 we are okay

[silk ocean]

Using memory is a good thing

Using main mem is a good thing. Everbody on Reddit is like, why is my MEM used so much. This is a good thing and most people don't understand the basics of memory management

[cunning glade]

As long as it doesn't go over we are okay and idc

I'm now at 28gb

[silk ocean]

As long as it's not some nefarious process then memory is wasted if not used

[grim ermine]

Rainbows

[silk ocean]

Everyone complains about how much Chrome uses, despite the fact that is an incredibly 28 million C program that is probably the most advanced program you run on your PC, of course it uses RAM but it also has a very advanced memory management suite, as does the operating system, everyone obsessing over how much RAM is being used. It's dynamic, and also far more advanced than you are

All these people crying on Reddit "omg Chrome is using 12 GB". That is a good thing, managed

If you can't run a system, have malware, viruses, etc, that's a different story

[hard ivy]

GUI scale?

[versed mesa]

Is that it i know i changed the resolution from highest to one smaller and its make the text clearer but is still small but I can read it still and better now

[cunning glade]

Okay all train stations have been setup and signals are all green

[grim ermine]

Thats good

How do path signals work

[white dawn]

You use path signals on the entrances to intersections, and they allow more than one train to be inside the intersection at once, so long as their paths don't cross

As trains approach the path-signal'd-intersection they'll reserve a path; if the block leading up to the intersection is too short, the train might actually slow down a bit while that happens

[reef basin]

path signals allow the train into following section if two conditions are true:

• the path through the next block is free (no train has reserved it yet)
• the train can pass through next signal (is not red)

[white dawn]

So basically if you've got a busy train network and an intersection which has mutually-exclusive paths, you can use path signals to potentially increase your intersection efficiency

[silk ocean]

Zatie's secret to path intersections - block out about a 10 wide section off the mainline, do a small 2 block pre-section at every side, a 6-wide main section, block in the intersection, put the path signals at the pre-sections, double up the exit blocks, remove the pre-block. I am an expert at this xD

I can insert a max efficiency path intersection into a double mainline in a matter of minutes xD

Just don't do drones or trucks, terrible idea XD

[cunning glade]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000200 what dis mean

I'm gonna kms cool

And too that we do a dab and get off for the day

I love how I can play 160h 0 issues then all of a sudden get a shit ton

[versed mesa]

Am happy to day i will finally have Automated computers production soon as this plastic fills up at station and then take it to is destination

Ive also automated some more things like high speed connectors

[cunning glade]

Fuck ass autosave design too

Now Im gonna turn it on

I have a theory I ran out of ram

Tbh I don't even wanna smoke

I just wanna not exist

[hard ivy]

And that's why you don't increase the UObject limit lol

[cunning glade]

Well I have no clue

[hard ivy]

You decorated too close to the sun XD

[cunning glade]

That's my theory I had this issue before but switching thru dx11 12 and vulkan fixed it

Ue5 is such a shit fucking game engine holy shit

Its so annoying all it does is introduce issues and problems constantly

This stupid fucking error happens in every damn ue5 game and it's so annoying

And God forbid css makes a good autosave

[hard ivy]

I haven't had issues with autosaves?

[cunning glade]

The fucking freeze it does

Pisses me off

[hard ivy]

There is a lot to save. Factorio freezes to save as well

[cunning glade]

Never did for me

If it did I wouldn't have kept playing

I had all of the math figured out too bro

Fuck ass game

[hard ivy]

Be happy they sped up save times XD

[cunning glade]

I just don't understand my world isn't even that big I'm only phase 4

[hard ivy]

In the old versions I had the timer set to 2h because saving took, on god, 3 whole minutes

[reef basin]

not on linux

[plucky flower]

Good afternoon

[cunning glade]

Object limit is actually so dumb

[reef basin]

you can easily set it higher if you want

[cunning glade]

I have and I have crashed since

[hard ivy]

I just took it as a reminder to drink XD

[cunning glade]

Meaning autosave needs too be on and I'm just gonna have too deal with crashing now

In order too play my save which is super cool

Could delete my power backup that's 1000 buildings but then no power backup

[worthy marsh]

Yoo

When new update

[cunning glade]

I'm guessing it just consumes ram then crashes cuz I'm at 23 now was at 19

[frail sleet]

it means (probably) that your CPU or the data that it's working with (like RAM) is unstable and doing 2+2=5

[hard ivy]

Q1-Q2 of next year would be my guess

[cunning glade]

Ig could be my ram

[frail sleet]

what's your cpu and memory clock / config

[worthy marsh]

Long

[cunning glade]

I did ofc stability test it for like a day atleast multiple times and it passed

[frail sleet]

what tests?

[cunning glade]

But ue5 might just be so shit it doesn't work

[cunning glade]

Karhu occt y cruncher

[frail sleet]

If it was a code problem, it would be more widespread

[cunning glade]

Prolly some others idk names

[frail sleet]

what cpu?

[cunning glade]

12700k

5ghz 4ghz on scores

Ecores

Ram is ddr4 4000

[frail sleet]

you can try reset bios to optimised defaults. If that still fails, drop core/ring to a few hundred mhz below spec. If that still fails, drop RAM a bunch or try other RAM at optimised defaults

[cunning glade]

I'm just gonna deal with it beat the game then not touch it again

[frail sleet]

running a system that's unstable enough to repeatedly crash a game which isn't checking for errors is a very bad idea, likely to e.g. corrupt your OS or directx files. For every crash error there are likely thousands more that slipped through, but did not cause an immediate and fatal error.

[cunning glade]

It doesn't crash in any others and it passes on stability test so🤷 but I get a 9800x3d and ddr5 at somepoint soon so idrc

[hard ivy]

We got 1.1 4 months ago. And they've been dealing with consoles since then. Another update is not coming anytime soon, at least not with any major features

[frail sleet]

If it crashes at OC but not at spec and it passes another workload consistently, then that workload isn't an adequate stability test.

[cunning glade]

The game only started crashing after I raised the object limit so idk if it even is ram

[frail sleet]

Yeah it is possible it is a software issue, just unlikely i think

i have object limit at infinity because 1.1 was giving me out-of-uobjects error every 30mins and since then i haven't crashed in the last 150hr a single time

[cunning glade]

I haven't crashed before raising the limit so idk

All ik is I wanna die

And I also wanna finish this factory

But have to redo the Damm stations

[frail sleet]

If you test at optimised defaults anyway you will get super valuable information. Either it crashes and it's likely not your OC's, or it doesn't crash and it definitely is.

More frequent crashing is easier to test. It's the "fails once every 7-14 days.. ish" things that are a royal pain in the ass.

[shy mulch]

How do I find out how many objects I have?

I'm curious if I'm anywhere near the limit or not

[reef basin]

afaik you don't until the crash

[shy mulch]

I thought SCIM could tell you, but I tried tried to load my save and SCIM crashed haha

Would be cool if there's a way to do it within the game

[silk ocean]

Just run wolveix/satisfactory:latest

[shy mulch]

what

[silk ocean]

If everyone ran that life would be so simple

[hard ivy]

I think there might be a mod for that

[shy mulch]

I don't want to use mods

If it can't be done in vanilla, I'll live without it

[unkempt blade]

I thought I remembered a console command for that but I don't see it in the list so maybe I'm imagining it

[silk ocean]

Just spend like an hour learning Ubuntu, spin iup wolveix/satisfactory:latest. It auto updates, write the docker-compose, I can even give you that. It's solves literally everything

Spin up an LXC on your Proxmox

[hard ivy]

it might be in the debug somewhere but idk where. I saw someone walking around with a counter on their GUI but it looked too nice to be a debug menu lol

[unkempt blade]

docker runs on pretty much any mainstream OS at this point so you don't really need the ubuntu part

[silk ocean]

No, just an example. Arch, Windows, whatever. Spin it up

Everyone is making things so hard
Spin up docker --> easy, runs on like every platform under the sun
Spin up wolveix/satisfactory-server:latest, docker-compose I can help or just use the example from the wiki
Get a good ISP with a static IPv4 and IPv6 delegation
Port-map accordingly
Profit?

Learn a bit of networking xD

[shy mulch]

I've got plenty experience with linux, used debian on my workstation for around 8 years when I worked as a developer, but for my personal stuff at home I'm not interested in the rabbit hole of having to actually do things. I have a PC with win11 on it that a mate built, and it works, everything I want to run just runs without any hassle or any effort from me whatsoever

I think people who live and breathe computers every day get numb to the amount of actual process they go through to maintain their setups and forget that people who aren't intimately in tune with it can't just do all those things in under 5 seconds

[silk ocean]

20 years of experience with Linux but I still run Windows on my home workstation

[hard ivy]

I am pretty tech savvy and I lasted on linux mint all of 3 days before I said "fuck this" and went back to W11

[silk ocean]

I want Linux deskop to be there, Valve Corp are doing good things, I really want to eliminate Windows but it's just not there yet. Also Windows, despite all the hate, it's actually a very stable system

[unkempt blade]

I've been using a similar docker setup to what they're describing for my dedicated server for a couple years now and the actual maintenance was pretty low (restart the container now and then to force an update) but there's definitely some initial setup (knowing docker basics and how to change settings on your router/modem mostly) to get running

[shy mulch]

Mint was one of my first exposures to linux. Was all okay until I had to print something, or update graphics drivers, I burned multiple days dealing with that shit

[white dawn]

Printing is the bane of any OS, really. But yeah, many rabbit holes to fall into in Linux specifically, alas

[silk ocean]

Mint is like a mainstream peasant distro, but if it gets people onto Linux then fair

[prime rampart]

whats that site for like calculating what u need for a factory

[hard ivy]

satisfactory tools

[shrewd palm]

satisfactory tools

also modeler on steam

[real shale]

Tools satisfactory

[prime rampart]

ty

[nocturne condor]

I set one up gotta say, that was easy

[prime rampart]

do i need reanimated sam for nuclear power plant?

[hard ivy]

depends whether you're making ficsonium or not

[prime rampart]

no ficsonium

[hard ivy]

then no

[prime rampart]

wait u need to convert waste into ficsonium?

[hard ivy]

need? no

[prime rampart]

to sink

[hard ivy]

you can sink plutonium rods

[unkempt blade]

you can sink it as plutonium rods OR convert it to ficsonium and use the ficsonium for power which is wasteless

[prime rampart]

so waste into plutonium rods then sink?

[unkempt blade]

is an option, yes

[prime rampart]

why does the codex say i need sam for

uranium fuel rods?

[shrewd palm]

its just optimizing with converter recipes

[hard ivy]

if you want to get rid of waste permanently, yes. that or ficsonium

[hard ivy]

you don't need it. tools just uses it because it considers it more resource efficient

[prime rampart]

how do i like remove it and do it game way

but i do need bauxite/coal/limestone/iron/copper?

[hard ivy]

disable SAM or the converter

[hard ivy]

test different recipe combinations and see

[prime rampart]

i found the eaiset thing

[shrewd palm]

if you want something thats a little more user friendly you could try out modeler on stea

[hard ivy]

i'd say that's way less user friendly lol. you need to know in advance which recipes you want to use

[shrewd palm]

you'll be able to test out different recipes and stuff much easier, can also make outposts for stuff like aluminum or rubber or whatever so that it doesnt get included in the resource cost because you have them built already

[hard ivy]

you can also do that in tools and much faster

[prime rampart]

bro 0.8 fuel rods can run one nuclear power plant right?

[dense violet]

more than one

assuming uranium rods

[hard ivy]

nuke plants burn 0.2 uranium rods, 0.1 plutonium or 1 ficsonium per min at 100% speed

[prime rampart]

so 0.8 could run 4 plants?

[shrewd palm]

yes but you wont be getting much power out of it

[dense violet]

sure but remember you can clock machines to use more or less

[shrewd palm]

iirc base clock reactors only make somewhere around 2000MW

[prime rampart]

i need power to clock machines

IIRC?

[shrewd palm]

if i recall correctly

[prime rampart]

i could do more then 0.8 but i just waanna try

[hard ivy]

2500 MW. so 0.8 uranium rods is 10 GW. my first fuel plant was double that

[shrewd palm]

this is just my opinion but if you're doing nuclear on a small scale like that you might as well just do something with some kind of fuel

[prime rampart]

the more rods the more watt?

[shrewd palm]

because the gains you get for effort compared to fuel will be very bad

[prime rampart]

how much should i make

[nocturne condor]

first time using the jetpack and!... wow that is underwhelming

[prime rampart]

0.8 doesnt need alot of resources ngl

[hard ivy]

make sure you're not using regular fuel or solid biofuel. those are dogshit

[shrewd palm]

going for like 20+ rods/min is a good like 280GW or higher, i havent really made any big rocket fuel plants so im not sure what a good amount of power is for those

my nuclear plant is 630GW (755 with augmenters) and thats from 50.4 rods

[nocturne condor]

I dont have access to that just yet (i need to build an oil place. which is next on my tasks)

well actually first on my tasks is automating motors

[hard ivy]

packaged liquid biofuel is the best until the lategame

[shrewd palm]

nuclear is an awful lot more complicated but it was much more fun and felt a lot more rewarding than the quick and dirty 150GW rocket fuel plant i made

[prime rampart]

20rods ???!?

its too expensive

[shrewd palm]

the price to pay for enough power to overclock everything for phase 4/5

[hard ivy]

I'm making 50.4 lol

[nocturne condor]

Ill make that when i can, its gonna be a bit still

[prime rampart]

thats u

[shrewd palm]

the most expensive for 50.4 rods is caterium

and that was only 6000 so just 5 pure nodes

[hard ivy]

20 mk5 belts of it kekw

[prime rampart]

where am i supposed to get 2000uranium for 20rods

[shrewd palm]

theres 2300 total on the map

[hard ivy]

*2100

[dense violet]

theres 2100 on the map

[shrewd palm]

right

[hard ivy]

also, atls

[shrewd palm]

2 normal nodes and 3 impure

[prime rampart]

how did u get 50rods per min?

[hard ivy]

alts

[dense violet]

there are alt recipes

[prime rampart]

for uranium or

[shrewd palm]

everything

[prime rampart]

what kind of alts r yall usinfg

[dense violet]

the alts for the rod process 😛

[shrewd palm]

im using alts in almost every stage of production for it

[dense violet]

!wikisearch uranium_fuel_rod

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=uranium_fuel_rod

[shrewd palm]

i think the only default recipes im using are for the waste disposal

[hard ivy]

too many to list lol. I use very few default recipes

[shrewd palm]

20 rods should be reasonable with only a couple alts

[outer hatch]

The alts have ratios of 5:4 and 100:3, which resovles to 1 Rod per ~42 uranium.

[shrewd palm]

the one for the uranium fuel rods and a couple others

[outer hatch]

... Which resolves to 2100/41.66666 ~= 50 rods.

[prime rampart]

i dont have alts

[shrewd palm]

better get looking!

[prime rampart]

i scanned like 20hard drives

i think a new playthrough would help me

my first playthrough going horrible rtn

[shrewd palm]

although if you dont want to spend the next few days searching for and opening hard drives you can use cheats to give yourself all the alts, but that sort of removes a core part of the game

[prime rampart]

I DO NOT WANT TO CHEAT

[nocturne condor]

why is one single machine worth of motors so dang expensive

[shy mulch]

expensive is relative, compared to other stuff it's not that bad

[hard ivy]

make more motors then 🙃

[shrewd palm]

wait until you see turbo motors

[nocturne condor]

Yeah i get that, more along the lines of i wasnt prepared for it to need a whopping 112 iron ore a minute on iron ingots alone

[hard ivy]

that's not a lot?

[nocturne condor]

It is for me atm as I cant find a good source of iron anywhere that isnt my starting patch

[shrewd palm]

time to expand!

[real shale]

The factory MUST grow

[nocturne condor]

Thats what im trying to do but i just cant find anything

[shrewd palm]

the rocky desert is a pretty good spot and i think you're fairly close, there are also some spots in the north forest that have a good amount of iron and other stuff

theres the spot with 4 pure nodes

[real shale]

I can't wait to unlock MK3 miners...

[shrewd palm]

only thing i dont like about mk3 miners is how expensive they are

[versed mesa]

👍

[nocturne condor]

that might be my starting location but ugh. screw it i Know what i said yesterday but ill just use the interactive map, my biggest slowdown is the fact I cant find any of the ores i need

[versed mesa]

Good day all

[ocean valve]

Don't be afraid to take time to explore and find new suitable places. The map is pretty huge, with lots of resources

[versed mesa]

Facts

[nocturne condor]

I have explored quite far and have been unable to find any suitable sources of iron

[shrewd palm]

the north forest isnt the greatest starting spot i think, but there are a couple biomes around it with a ton of stuff

[versed mesa]

Be nice to see new maps

[shrewd palm]

the rocky desert is arguably the best starting spot and has heaps of iron, copper, coal, limestone, and quartz

and its right nextdoor

[versed mesa]

What about oil

[nocturne condor]

My only issue with a rocky desert map start is im not good enough to go with how little plants it provides

[shrewd palm]

no oil but there is the spire coast right next to it that has i think over 3k oil, and the gold coast below it with somewhere around 2k

[versed mesa]

Lol

Ive finally just about caught up with my Automations they not huge productions but some is better than none

[shy mulch]

do you use the scanner ingame? hold down V and scroll round the wheel to iron, then let go of V

[nocturne condor]

yes I do use it consistently, but no matter how far out from my base I go i never seen to find any good ore patches anywhere or very few, or ones that seem obviously set up to be used with another resource

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message this is the rocky desert + north forest

the iron patch in the very bottom left is just iron, the 3 pure nodes to the right of it have some limestone and copper and also a caterium node nearby

the 4 pure nodes in the top right i think are just iron, might also be some copper there and theres a little bit of limestone not too far away

same thing with the 3 normal nodes next to it

[nocturne condor]

you know what i realized? I should probably start using alternate recipes. im being dumb not using them

[nocturne condor]

yeah i have figured out which patch ill use as the main iron source for this. now i just need to figure out coal...

[grim ermine]

[steady oar]

Hi

I have a setup of 5x water extractors generating 600/min, through Mk2 pipes to 13x Coal powered generators. All taking in 45/min. However, for some reason, some of them keep running out of water. Why might this be? I've put a couple valves along the way to try and help prevent sloshing, and I (believe i do) have the headlift as water does make it to the generators. Just not at 45/min each, despite there being a 15/min excess.

[outer hatch]

Isn't that 15/min the cause for the backflow?

If there is nowhere forward for them to go...

[shy mulch]

How's this for genius. There's a scheme where I can put any amount of my bonus into my pension tax free. I need to tell them how much of it I want to put into that and how much I want to just be paid. Deadline for submitting my choice is 2 weeks before I find out what bonus I'm getting... Got to love corporate bullshit 🤷

[outer hatch]

... wrong channel?

[unkempt blade]

that's easy, none to pension and all of it to copies of satisfactory to maximize returns

[wild igloo]

Can you make it so that once your storage is full, items going into the storage are diverted into the sink?

[unkempt blade]

there's an overflow rule using the smart or programmable splitters

[wild igloo]

Ah nice, thanks

[feral geyser]

Is that a 12 year old??

[exotic mortar]

this server dosnt have voice channel:

[hard ivy]

it doesn't

[silk ocean]

Voice is too hard to moderate

Besides, save your larynx and learn to touch type. Fingers are more resilient

[shy mulch]

Nah, I just post anything and everything here now. Everyone else does and I tried to fight it and failed, so now I just join in

[silk ocean]

Just accept your demise, WaslsDaz xD

[shy mulch]

I only listen to ADA

ADA will guide me

[silk ocean]

Can I pretend to be ADA?

Are you German by any chance xD

[shy mulch]

Only at heart

[silk ocean]

They always follow rules xD

[shy mulch]

I visit Germany at least once or twice a year, I'd move there if I could

[silk ocean]

So you are Austrian then xD

[shy mulch]

I'm not even confirming that I'm human at this stage

[silk ocean]

You may or may not live on this part of the orion arm of the galaxy, or not even close the Saggitarius A* at all, all this is yet to be confirmed

[vague cove]

is this game "difficult"?

[shy mulch]

some people find it difficult, others find it time consuming, some find it a walk in the park

[real shale]

And those who find it a walk in the park aren't actually working and should get back to polluting the park, why is there a park

[outer hatch]

Losing is fun (wait, wrong game).

To answer more seriously. It's a game of growing complexity. Small manual tasks, followed by larger manual tasks to set up simple automation, then linking the small automation into larger automation, and so on and so on.

(Answered the wrong comment again!)

[shy mulch]

I do live on the planet you assume I do, but I might be a migrant who sneaked in on the back of a Vogon constructor ship on its way to demolish a star system to make way for a new hyperspace bypass

[outer hatch]

I hope you know where your towel is, you frood.

[shy mulch]

Try using an alt, like pure copper

[silk ocean]

I hope you brought a towel

[shy mulch]

You guys are pretty hoopy

[violet brook]

So, fairly new into a run (2 hours in). Will there be better ways to transport resources vertically besides conveyor belts?

[ashen vessel]

You have conveyor lifts? They are belts that go straight up

[mortal ginkgo]

conveyor lifts exactly do that

[violet brook]

You mean like the stands that you can extend upward?

[ashen vessel]

Nah there are called conveyor lifts and the the mk you have

[wild igloo]

Vertical conveyor, looks like a box can be extended upward

[violet brook]

Okay, was just wondering if there were going to be better ways, thanks.

I also got a spawn with like 7 iron deposits within 150m of each other.

[ashen vessel]

Conveyor lifts get better as you get better belts

[mortal ginkgo]

nom nom it all

[violet brook]

I am curious how to make a relatively organized power grid with the biomass generators

[ashen vessel]

You next step in power is coal which can be full automated so don't go too crazy

[violet brook]

Ah. So the chainsaw is going to get quickly outclassed

[ashen vessel]

It will still be good until you get coal and then you can use it to clear areas for factorys

[violet brook]

I assume given the themes of the game that clean energy isn’t a thing

(Like solar and wind)

[ashen vessel]

Na

There are mods for that but

That's another topic

[violet brook]

To be fair though trying to implement that would be kinda hard to work into the balance given that realistically they’d unconditionally provide power.

[reef basin]

solar and wind have another, more problematic issue - they are practically impossible to balance (being free unlimited power)

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont. you go Phase 2, unlock coal generators, enjoy automated coal power.

even before that, hunting animals, making biomass from their remains is WAY better than going around hunting for trees

[violet brook]

Well, not unconditionally

But we’re really gonna implement wind patterns in a game cmon

[mortal ginkgo]

this game is "too sandbox and safe" to include conditions such as harsh weather effects.

[shy mulch]

There is geothermal power, but it's very limited

[dawn path]

What does it mean when a mod is reported as "Damaged" on SML, and that some features may cause CTD? Is that something I should genuinely be concerned over?

[ashen vessel]

Means it probably doesn't work

And will crash to desktop or ctd

But that's a satisfactory moding discord question

[violet brook]

how many hours do y’all have? 👀

[ashen vessel]

600 maybe

[violet brook]

Cause so far this seems like a four figure hour game

[ashen vessel]

I've never beat the game tho

[dawn path]

at least

[reef basin]

around 50

[ashen vessel]

But some people have like 4000 hours

[shy mulch]

I'm at 1307 hours atm

[dawn path]

i'm slowly approaching 4 digits, currently sitting on my 885 hour throne

[outer hatch]

250 ... but I only got the game at the end of July.

[reef basin]

afaik ~200 hours is reasonable for finishing the game

[violet brook]

Also, does your factory need to be rendered for anything to produce?

[dawn path]

well its not a throne yet... a garden chair thus far

[violet brook]

I recall going like 200 meters away to grab some wire from my copper mines, then a fuse blowing out where my hub is for no reason

[reef basin]

no

[candid ingot]

does overclocking power generation buildings make them produce more power then just placing more down?

[shy mulch]

no, it's exactly the same either way

[candid ingot]

so then why did ImKibits overclock his NP plants?

[reef basin]

I guess he wanted to build less of them

[shy mulch]

have you seen the scale of some of the power plant facilities people build? doing that x2.5 is a lot more effort than just adding shards to them all

[candid ingot]

makes sence

[reef basin]

but tbh I wouldn't consider Kibitz a good source of information to learn the game

[dawn path]

yeah i don't think he's the best source for actually learning, but there's def loads of good inspiration to be taken from the stuff he does

[reef basin]

he's more like an entertainer (though you can say that about most of streamers/youtubers)

[hard ivy]

It saves time and space. if you have the shards available ofc

[mortal ginkgo]

he is an entertainer. the more dangerous stuff he makes the more entertaining it gets if things explode.

I mean, "use all uranium" is a good way to lure people, instead of saying "making just 5 nuclear reactors"

the things he do not only way too large but also his "boops" can take you to make for weeks or even months

the guy plays such games for more than thousands of hours, he knows what he is doing (mostly)

overclocking power making stuff saves you in space and time too so

[silk ocean]

3 - don't live in the UK, it's a hell hole of disappointment

Just a random tip for anyone planning to be born

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say being born in Turkey might be way way worse. I know for being one from there.

a UK citizen at least got other places to go if they can. Me? I am stuck in my phase 1 country that doesn't know how to put stuff into elevator brotherman.

[silk ocean]

Antalya might not so be so bad but yes, avoid these locations

[violet brook]

Given that your culture’s food is literally built off of rationing, I don’t blame you.

[mortal ginkgo]

Being tourist doesn't count. You ain't seeing whats actually happening deep within etc.

[silk ocean]

Nobody wants a World War 2 Pie xD

[violet brook]

I did live in North Ireland for a short time as a child, but I basically never experienced much outside of the boarding school I was in.

[solid storm]

Damm, lol....never thought I would have to be this high to get that achievement. #screenshots message

[violet brook]

Y’all made me sick of potatoes

[cosmic adder]

is there a faster way to craft smth? Holding space takes years

[silk ocean]

Slapping a rat off the wall while using a cheap Galaxy S23? xD

[hard ivy]

automate it lmao

[silent grail]

constructors and such. Its a game of automation

[mortal ginkgo]

casual morning routine 😄

[violet brook]

Constructors.

[stone python]

dont have to hold space, just press it once

[violet brook]

You do have to put a bit of effort if you want the raw materials to go straight into crafting, but you’re saving a ton of time. (To design the automation)

[reef basin]

that's the game telling you that you're doing something wrong 🙂
don't handcraft, automate stuff

[cosmic adder]

ohhhh

me stupido

[violet brook]

I mean so far I’m still hand crafting reinforced iron plates

(Just cause my actual supply chain isn’t done)

[mortal ginkgo]

automate it. also as others said, press space once

if something is taking too long to craft, you are not supposed to be crafting that much 😄

[silent grail]

ive spent a lot of time hand crafting for lack of patience trying to get to coal power and not wanting to waste energy making something id have to figure out how to power with biofuel and hope the biofuel doesnt run out 😭😭

[silk ocean]

Isn't Turkey like the boss of the EEC.. We shall join, we shall not comply xD

[cosmic adder]

500 screws is crazy

[reef basin]

automate

[mortal ginkgo]

I see the problem here 😄

[violet brook]

You get like four screws with an iron rod right?

[unkempt blade]

if anything you should make more screws, they're good for you

[silent grail]

eat the screws